The example I'll give is I very early in my career, I had a gentleman that worked for me and we just
butted heads. I was the manager of the store and he was one of my junior managers and we just butted
heads and finally we learned to kind of work together and I just kept trying to teach him and
educate him and support him and help him his journey and the best experience was about three
years later we were doing some site visits and we went to his store as a store manager
and his comment to me it was you know I know we butted heads but thanks for all the support and
help you gave me over those years to help me be the leader I am today and for me it's helping people
achieve what sometimes they don't think they can do and supporting and teaching and taking those
moments again to make a difference with somebody.