1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,760 So, when a person, oh, that's good, that's good. 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:06,840 We're gonna go ahead and take a quick look at this. 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:09,560 So, there's actually a directory of service providers 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:11,880 included in the Healing Institute. 5 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:13,280 So, good. 6 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:16,480 We'll make sure to talk more about who's involved 7 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:20,120 and how they're involved and how others can also 8 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:21,900 get involved in the process. 9 00:00:21,900 --> 00:00:24,400 So, we're live. Perfect, thank you. 10 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:28,400 All right, so, Pramila, we've, 11 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:30,680 before we dive in, the official interview, 12 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:33,920 I'd love to know what three books or resources 13 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:35,880 do you recommend for other visionaries? 14 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:41,920 Well, one of my main books that I just love 15 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:45,880 is called Power Versus Force 16 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:51,600 by Dr. David R. Hawkins. 17 00:00:52,980 --> 00:00:56,440 And one of the reasons that I love to refer to that book 18 00:00:56,440 --> 00:01:01,440 is because he created a map of consciousness. 19 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,000 And having studied vibrational healing 20 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,760 and vibrational energy, I love that map of consciousness. 21 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:12,280 So, that's one of the books I recommend. 22 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:17,160 The other one is, another one is Dr. Bruce Lipton, 23 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,400 The Biology of Belief. 24 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:23,800 We're kind of taught that whatever we grow up 25 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:26,160 with those beliefs are the beliefs that we can have 26 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,680 for the rest of our lives, but that in fact is not true. 27 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:34,680 And if you believe something, it's part of who you are. 28 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:36,560 So, obviously, it's gonna come true, 29 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,800 but you can adjust those beliefs as well. 30 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,080 Or you can incorporate new beliefs too. 31 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:45,800 And I do have a session that I also teach about 32 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:47,820 realigning your beliefs. 33 00:01:47,820 --> 00:01:50,600 Sometimes we get to an adult age 34 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,800 and we realize those beliefs that we grew up with 35 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,660 actually don't work for us anymore. 36 00:01:56,660 --> 00:01:59,760 And my third book is a Marianne Williamson, 37 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:01,840 Tears to Triumph. 38 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,000 So, I love Marianne Williamson. 39 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:09,000 She's an absolutely inspirational person. 40 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:11,720 I follow her. 41 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:13,520 She's a Course in Miracles student 42 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:15,920 and has done lots of lectures on a Course in Miracles. 43 00:02:15,920 --> 00:02:17,520 And I'm a Course in Miracles student. 44 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:20,280 I love it. 45 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,400 I love the poetic nature as well 46 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:24,840 of the titles of all three of those books. 47 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:28,520 All three books I have not heard of either. 48 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:32,720 And I'm excited to have them on my list now 49 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:34,160 because they all three have, 50 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:38,600 I can sense and feel the profound power behind the three. 51 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:40,200 Power versus force is something 52 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:43,840 that I do a lot of training on with cell seams. 53 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,680 And so I didn't know there was a book that was called that. 54 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:50,600 That provides new validation to my theories. 55 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:52,440 So, I love it. 56 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:53,280 Awesome. 57 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:54,880 Well, we'll bring you back on stage in just a minute, 58 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:56,720 introduce you properly to the world 59 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:58,760 and we'll pick up quite soon. 60 00:02:58,760 --> 00:02:59,600 All right. 61 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:01,960 Welcome in to Vision Pros Live. 62 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,040 With Jackson Calame, I'm your show host. 63 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,720 We'll be doing interviews for visionary entrepreneurs 64 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:08,680 and guest leaders who are building 65 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:10,240 fantastic visions out there. 66 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,440 Hey, what's up Vision Pros? 67 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:14,440 Welcome in to another episode of Vision Pros Live. 68 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:16,080 I'm your show host, Jackson Calame, 69 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,280 founder and CEO of First Class Business. 70 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,400 And I'm excited to have Pramalia Paramon today. 71 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,160 We're gonna be talking about healing 72 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,280 and an international wellness community 73 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,880 that she's building with that intent exactly 74 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,400 to help people heal from the challenges 75 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:32,240 that they're facing. 76 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,160 And I'm excited to have Pramalia Paramon today. 77 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,600 And I'm excited to have Pramalia Paramon today. 78 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:39,640 And I'm excited to have Pramalia Paramon today. 79 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:41,360 Jason is gonna be our host today. 80 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,560 And we're gonna be talking about 81 00:03:42,980 --> 00:03:45,520 and New York City challenges that they face. 82 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:49,440 And those challenges could be things 83 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,240 that you're suffering deeply within 84 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,760 and haven't really addressed 85 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,080 and you need a safe space to do so, 86 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:58,960 or they could be surface level right now. 87 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:00,480 It could be a process of grief 88 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:01,200 that you're going through. 89 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,800 Well, we'll explore the different aspects 90 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,720 of what types of elements we need to hear from 91 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:08,400 as entrepreneurs. 92 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:13,840 back and for a couple reasons been on my mind, but he talked about how all entrepreneurs have been 93 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:20,000 through a ton of trauma. And the trauma is what leads people to unlock and uncover their greatness. 94 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:27,040 And with that, again, sometimes there's a there's a space to surface that in and to deal with it and 95 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:32,720 to reach new heights. On other occasions, it might be safest to hang on to it for a little while and 96 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:36,800 gravitate towards who makes the most sense to talk to. So we'll talk about that and debate that a 97 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:42,160 little bit, too, on the show today. Before I bring Pramila on and I continue to talk about what she's 98 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:46,880 building, that what she's building with the Healing Institute, I always want to give a shout out to 99 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:52,720 these sponsors that are resources that I recommend taking a look at. Both sponsors today are sponsors 100 00:04:52,720 --> 00:05:00,800 we've had on the show. The first being Sean LeChuga of The Wellness Shop 365 and his approach to 101 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:05,600 integrative nutrition, health and wellness as a coach and a consultant for health and wellness 102 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:11,520 really caught my eye when I saw the 365 Wheel of Life that they have. And I noticed that they 103 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:15,840 were asking questions that were much deeper than any naturopath I'd ever talked to. Joy, 104 00:05:15,840 --> 00:05:20,640 what's your spirituality? What's your creativity? What do relationships in your social life and 105 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:26,640 your volunteer opportunities look like? This approach to wellness as a whole really caught 106 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:31,680 my attention because I was like, man, I know the more we get locked in and centered with everything 107 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:37,200 that we want out of life, the healthier we're becoming. And so, yes, they of course help with 108 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:44,320 the traditional fitness and supplements and diet style planning or nutrition, I guess, is a better 109 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:53,520 word for it. But their genuine belief and foundation of holistic wellness really caught my attention. 110 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:58,400 I'd highly recommend checking out his and Julien's episode. And there's Melissa Gray with The Lost 111 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:05,760 Spot. Now, Melissa was somebody I was hesitant to put on the show because I'm not a big fan of most 112 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:12,800 attorneys and how in their face they can be, how condescending they can be too. And here I found 113 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:18,560 somebody who's a nurturer who understands that law doesn't have to be complicated. And she really 114 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:24,160 understands the value of being there for people, understanding her clients. It was a joy to host 115 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:30,960 her on the show. And she's since become a client as well of first class business. And seeing her 116 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:36,560 want to bridge the gap between the resources that are free and out there such as LegalZoom and 117 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:45,200 Crocodoc and the expensive attorney retainers and maybe falling into a relationship with a counselor 118 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:50,160 or somebody for legal counsel who doesn't necessarily have the time to properly care about 119 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:55,360 your business, there's a happy medium in between those two elements. And so as you continue your 120 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:59,520 journey as a visionary and you look for who's going to support you from a legal standpoint, 121 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:03,840 rather than leaving yourself susceptible to potential challenges that could come up, 122 00:07:03,840 --> 00:07:08,320 it could be a very good idea to get ahead of that. And if you haven't interviewed legal counsel 123 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:13,360 individuals, consider doing so in the coming weeks and consider Melissa Gray as part of that 124 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:20,720 opportunity. Then lastly, before we bring Parmelia on, we're going to talk about the water project. 125 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:26,960 The water project is my go-to source of giving back because there's millions of people in this 126 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:32,000 world who don't have access to clean drinking water. And I don't ever want to forget that. 127 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:38,320 I don't want to ever forget the fact that I can take certain natural resources for granted. I 128 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:44,000 choose to remember that others don't have these and therefore it's my responsibility and opportunity 129 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:48,160 to help people understand there's a way to give back, there's a way to help, even though we can't 130 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:53,840 go over there ourselves every day and necessarily dig the wells ourselves for everyone. So the water 131 00:07:53,840 --> 00:08:00,640 project, they actually facilitate the process of helping these communities based on the elements, 132 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:06,000 the resources they have available. They teach the communities and help them create the resource. And 133 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:10,160 you get to see how many people you're going to help, how many people are going to be affected 134 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:14,720 by this project, what type of project they're going to do. And they will give you social media 135 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:19,040 updates. They will let you know when your project comes to fruition. You get to see the impact you're 136 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:26,080 going to have and providing a long-term source of water to individuals creates a generational impact 137 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:31,040 that can affect not just a few hundred people that are affected by the project, but their 138 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:36,240 posterity as well is going to benefit tremendously from the efforts that you've done to give. So if 139 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:41,280 you have another cause that you'd rather see us talk about and help with, don't hesitate to drop 140 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:45,840 that cause in the comments. It's not really a competition. I believe very much in the law 141 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:50,960 of abundance and we have the opportunity to give more and more based on the resources that we're 142 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:56,000 able to acquire. And there's 8 billion people in this world that we need to help. So if you know 143 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:59,760 of a cause that you'd like to see us promote, don't hesitate to drop it in the comments. We might 144 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:04,720 actually put it on the show as well. You never know. And if you could, even if you can't give 145 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:09,280 back to the water project right now, if you can share the water project with others so that others 146 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:15,440 could potentially contribute, you never know what type of impact your voice will have on others until 147 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:20,400 you give yourself a shot and see who might be able to help. So without further ado, 148 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:25,600 Pramiliya Parham, and I've got to ask her to pronounce you just like my last, I can't even 149 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:30,640 pronounce my last name sometimes. I got to bring her on and find out exactly how she pronounces 150 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:36,640 her last name, but she's coming onto our stage to talk about the Healing Institute. And I'd 151 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:42,880 encourage everybody who's listening as well to go check out her page on LinkedIn and see her 152 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:46,880 background, see where she comes from. And it's amazing what you can learn about somebody when 153 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:52,880 you look at where they studied, when you look at their past experiences as well and what's led them 154 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:59,920 to launch and build the visions that they're up to. So without further ado, I'll bring Pramiliya 155 00:09:59,920 --> 00:10:05,120 on stage and we'll go from there. Welcome to Vision Pros Live, Pramiliya. Oh, thank you so much, 156 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:11,040 Jackson. I am delighted and excited to be here today. And you're pronouncing my name perfectly. 157 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:18,320 It's Pramiliya Parham. Well, thank you. I know we reviewed this at least three times. And I had a 158 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:23,760 couple of pre-show guests today whose names I just could not get right. I think it's kind of like 159 00:10:24,560 --> 00:10:31,520 remove my confidence on name pronunciation today. So thank you for your grace. Well, with that said, 160 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:36,000 I do want to make sure that we honor your background as well. And one of the best ways we 161 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:41,440 can do that is find out from your perspective, what elements of your background are going to be most 162 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:46,960 helpful for the visionaries listening in to truly understand? Because you've got at least a decade 163 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:54,320 of wisdom under your belt. So let's go ahead and hear your perspective. What drove you to start 164 00:10:54,320 --> 00:11:02,800 the Healing Institute? And what was your path like to begin this vision? Well, similarly to what you 165 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:08,240 mentioned earlier, where a lot of entrepreneurs have gone through their own trauma and their own 166 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:17,600 passage, healing passage. And 20 plus years ago, I was not in a very happy place. And I'm a very 167 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:26,800 happy person. So I was starting to do some studying myself around energy, vibrational energy, 168 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:36,880 vibrational healing, emotional healing. And it's my teacher who was very, very blessed to meet just 169 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:43,520 at the right time when I needed her. She actually predicted that I was going to be turning what I 170 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:49,520 was learning into a business. At the time, I had no clue that that was that was going to happen. 171 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:57,280 So, you know, fast forward a few years, and because I was now in a happier place, that is what was 172 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:03,680 coming out of me. And so some of my co workers that I was working with at the time wondered what 173 00:12:03,680 --> 00:12:08,240 was going on with me because I was always happy. And I was able to look at, you know, any kind of 174 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:15,840 challenging incident that came up. And so I started to explain to them about how I was doing 175 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:25,600 my chakra balancing and my energy balancing and grounding exercises. They kind of looked at me odd, 176 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:31,440 but they were interested to learn how to do that. So I, my teacher's prediction came true, I 177 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:37,840 literally started teaching out of my house. And then, and that's how my first company vibrational 178 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:46,320 healing was launched. And then one of the reasons that I was so, I think, divinely blessed to 179 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:54,560 actually create the Healing Institute was because of a tragedy that happened in our family a number 180 00:12:54,560 --> 00:13:00,640 of years ago in that my mother passed away at a very young age due to complications with her 181 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:07,600 kidneys because of the medication she'd been on for a very long time. And I really don't want 182 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:13,760 anyone to have to go through that. I really want the reason I called the Healing Institute is an 183 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:20,000 Institute is because I'm very, very passionate about educating people around how to be well and 184 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:27,920 how to stay well on our health journey. And we're all on a health journey. So that is why I really 185 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:36,800 really the impetus to create the Healing Institute was came from yes, tragedy and trauma. But we are 186 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:44,400 moving forward into holistic health and wellness and providing a vehicle for people to come to the 187 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:50,240 Institute, connect with those amazing practitioners that we have and connect with them and their 188 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:58,880 modalities. Absolutely. So you mentioned perhaps two different challenges, two different tragedies, 189 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:04,000 or was it one of the same? You said 20 years ago, you found yourself in a situation where you were 190 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:10,480 not in a happy place. Is that tied to the loss of your mother or was there something else that was 191 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:17,600 that was? It wasn't tied to the loss of my mother because that had happened a few years before that. 192 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:28,240 I was in a relationship that wasn't very supportive as to who I was. And I just knew that I had to go 193 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:35,760 inside. I wasn't going to find the happiness on the outside and whatever. And if anybody had looked 194 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:43,040 at me back in those in that time, you know, I looked to be very successful. I had a lovely home. 195 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:53,440 I had, you know, a good career. But when you don't have that inner that inner joy, then it does it 196 00:14:53,440 --> 00:15:01,360 it does change who not change who you are. But you really need to look at why. And I've always been 197 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:08,800 curious. I've always asked questions. I say often that's you know, what we did as children, what we 198 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:16,400 got into trouble for as children is our gift. So I was always too sensitive and always asked too 199 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:24,800 many questions as a child. And so of course, that has helped me incredibly now that I'm doing 200 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:34,000 healing work and wellness work. But yeah, so just happened that I was able to meet this woman who 201 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:39,680 I was able to meet this woman who gave me the language. You know, I think I always had intuition 202 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:47,920 that I didn't know the words for it. I was always very interested in people and always very, 203 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:54,880 very curious. So when something was not quite right with me, I started to educate myself as to 204 00:15:55,920 --> 00:16:01,440 how how I could be happier. And, and that led me to where I am today. 205 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:12,000 That's awesome. We my my first wife and I am twice divorced. And our first marriage, we both learned a 206 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:19,440 lot about the having an Instagram family and having challenges as well. And the marriage 207 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:26,560 challenges of of identity and beliefs, etc. It's something that a lot of people go through. And, 208 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:30,240 and I think there's a lot of people in life who don't learn how to address it. 209 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:35,520 They don't learn how to how to move beyond it and find inner peace. So I'm certainly grateful for 210 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:41,120 your institute and what you do, because I'm a product of finding institutes like yours, 211 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:47,520 or therapists, counselors and saying, How can I how can I unlock, you know, minor happiness? 212 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:53,920 How can I unlock the feelings and have the business that I want and the life that I want 213 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:59,360 at the same time? I very much always been a you can have your cake and eat it to somebody 214 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:05,600 mess that that lineup that that staying up a long time ago and we're fixing it. Absolutely. 215 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:10,000 With we can move in now to thank you for sharing vulnerability about your background, 216 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:15,520 where you come from and how you came to find, you know, the path to happiness for yourself. 217 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:24,240 What's your vision for those that you serve? My vision is to make holistic ways of being well, 218 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:32,640 holistic modalities available to what I would call the general public. I don't know that we have, 219 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:38,800 we've had a model, we've had a medical model, both in the United States and Canada, and probably, 220 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:44,240 I'm in Canada. So in both in both our countries, as well as the rest of the world, 221 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:52,880 but the medical model is broken. And it doesn't work anymore. Agreed. So my vision is that 222 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:59,680 my vision is for who I serve both, I kind of have to two paths of service. One, of course, 223 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:06,240 is holistic practitioners to give them a vehicle like the Healing Institute, where they can be 224 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:15,280 available on a global on a global scale for for people who are looking for ways to be well and 225 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:24,480 stay well. And alternative the alternatives that we that we offer by these practitioners and the 226 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:30,560 and the work that they do, which is absolutely amazing. And we just really that's my vision is 227 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:37,440 is to heal. I have a I have a big vision. It's called heal the world. And that's why I set up 228 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:46,640 the Healing Institute as a virtual global hub and platform for for clients and for practitioners. 229 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:55,840 Love that. We appreciate big visions here. Vision pros is all about the big visions. So 230 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:59,520 you're welcome to share the vastness of it. And and for yourself, 231 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:04,000 familiar what's what's your personal vision? What do you see for yourself on the horizon? 232 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:09,360 Well, I have three children. I'm waiting to be a grandmother. 233 00:19:11,360 --> 00:19:15,200 I'm rooting for you from a personal vision. That's my hope to make it happen. 234 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:24,080 Yes, bring the storks. And, you know, just I mean, I, I feel very fulfilled. I love the work that 235 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:29,840 I'm doing both with the Healing Institute and also the healing modalities that I that I have 236 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:37,760 offered my clients through my other company, vibrational healing. And I, I just want more for 237 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:46,560 us. I want I want us to be well. I want I really want to instill with people the possibility and 238 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:54,560 the capability of them not to be their illness. There's so many people I meet and their who they 239 00:19:54,560 --> 00:20:03,680 are, their identity is wrapped up in how sick they are and how well they don't feel. And I want 240 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:10,320 to change that. I really want to switch that over. So, you know, we know that when you are feeling 241 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:16,720 at your very best, you give your very best and we certainly need a lot of us out in the world, 242 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:24,320 making the world a better place. And that's, that's my that's my vision, I would say. 243 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:31,200 Oh, that's cool. So the the healing factor leads us to be able to produce better results. 244 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:36,480 And therefore the byproduct is exponential, accordingly, because once we feel better, 245 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:42,640 we then have more capacity to do even more good. So well said. I mean, I, I experienced that as a 246 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:49,360 missionary in Uruguay, I got really sick. And I was down to 100. I'm six to I was down to 145 pounds. 247 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:54,960 You know, and I looked like a toothpick. And they were doing all sorts of studies on me 248 00:20:54,960 --> 00:21:01,520 and a change in environment. Combined with saying, you know what, like, I'm it was just it was all 249 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:06,400 stress induced. I didn't realize it, you know, until I got there. I was like, forget this, 250 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:10,320 like, forget the diet, forget everything. We're going forward now that we've moved now that I 251 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:16,800 have a new companion. You know, I just there was a there was a flip, a mental switch that that 252 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:21,680 flipped in my head. And I was able to get back in tune with being healthy. And it did it made a 253 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:27,840 dramatic impact on my ability to to serve and do what I was called to do at the time of my life. 254 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:34,720 And I've seen the same thing happen after my back surgery, and having to go through the phases of 255 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:41,440 kind of grief and trauma associated with that. And if anybody's facing, you know, a point in life 256 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:48,400 right now where you don't feel like you can move or you feel stuck, or maybe you're misaligned with 257 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:56,080 your purpose, then this is absolutely a conversation worth listening on. Now, before we dive into that 258 00:21:56,080 --> 00:22:01,360 further, I do want to find out from the experience, the leadership experience and background you have, 259 00:22:01,360 --> 00:22:05,680 we're going to dive into the dark subject. What's the worst leadership experience that you've ever 260 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:13,680 had? I was thinking about this because that was, you know, part of the the pre interview. Yeah. 261 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:22,080 And what comes to mind, I worked in what we would call corporate Canada, I know you 262 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:29,760 refer to as corporate US. And I had a manager, it was a brand new position that I had, 263 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:36,080 I had studied for and I'd won the position. And it was a brand new position. And it was looking at 264 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:45,600 looking at more not just a single office, but a regional whole region of offices that needed to be. 265 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:52,240 There was a new a new project that was coming in, and I was hired to implement that project. 266 00:22:52,240 --> 00:23:00,080 Now I'm not very tall, I'm like five feet zip. So we look funny together. Oh, we would. Yeah, very much. 267 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:06,080 I'd come up to maybe your shoulder, my husband's six feet tall, so I barely come up to his shoulder. 268 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:15,280 And so this manager that was part of the unit where I was working was like six foot five and big, 269 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:24,880 like really big. And he used to like to intimidate his staff. And it was a large staff. But he would 270 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:33,200 actually come and hover over your desk and yell at you. It was just awful. It was just awful. 271 00:23:35,360 --> 00:23:42,080 I'm pretty feisty. Even though I'm short. I think probably learned to be feisty all these years. 272 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:49,760 And I didn't let him intimidate me. Good for you. I just stood up to him. And apparently that was 273 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:56,320 the right thing to do. So that was I would say that's my worst leadership experience that I've 274 00:23:56,320 --> 00:24:02,720 ever had. Yeah, that's awful when when the right thing to do is the wrong thing to do, the environment 275 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:10,880 is usually not conducive to healthy living. So well, so okay, very good. I'm not very good at 276 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:16,320 kind of very good. And what did you do about it? Did you stick around there? Were you there for a 277 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:24,480 while? Or? Yeah, I was I was there for probably about a year. And one of the women that I worked 278 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:33,760 with at the time, she had actually had been a supervisor of mine. And in another department, 279 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:37,760 and she said, That's what you have to do. You have to stick up. You have to stick up to him. 280 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:44,160 Don't let him intimidate you because he was a bully, basically. And as soon as you show weakness 281 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:51,760 to a bully, you know what happens. So it gets worse. It gets worse. Yeah. And then I was very 282 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:58,720 luckily transferred to another department. I was very happy about that. Oh, same job, but a different 283 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:04,880 department. Right? Yeah, that's good. Okay. What about your best leadership experience? What's the 284 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:14,320 best leadership experience you've ever had? I would say I've had some amazing, amazing managers and 285 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:22,800 supervisors in my corporate career. One particular manager that I had really just I think he could see 286 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:30,720 the strengths that I had. And he kind of just let me do my own thing. I you know, I'd have to go to 287 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:37,200 him for certain things if I really thought I needed his permission. But I had a whole unit 288 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:47,120 of like 30 plus people. And it's really hard to supervise 30 plus people. So I ended up dividing 289 00:25:47,120 --> 00:25:55,840 the unit into segments. And I was actually assigned someone who was fairly senior in each one of the 290 00:25:55,840 --> 00:26:02,800 areas to kind of overlook what was going on in that area. And then they reported to me. And my 291 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:08,400 manager let me do that. And he also let me hire this was back in the day when part time work was 292 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:13,200 not the thing you either worked full time or you didn't work at all. And he let me hire staff 293 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:21,680 part time, a couple of staff who were on you know, had brand new children, new babies and didn't want 294 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:28,320 to work full time. And so he let me hire them to work two and three days a week, which as I said, 295 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:33,600 that is was unknown back in those days. And honestly, I have to say, there was more work 296 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:39,920 that those those women did in those two days than some of the other people in the unit did in five 297 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:46,400 days. Yeah, I would say that's my best leadership experience. Yeah. Oh, that's awesome. And that's, 298 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:53,200 it's amazing how that how that happens. You know, especially in corporate environments where 299 00:26:53,920 --> 00:27:01,040 the status quo is often simply maintained, depending on the culture, of course. But that 300 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:05,520 is one of those unique challenges that that is faced. I had a friend who was working at 3M. 301 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:11,040 Most people don't even know a company that is like you get like packages of tape and all sorts of 302 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:17,840 stuff at Walmart, almost all of it's made by 3M. Our Post-it Notes are made by 3M. Those two, 303 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:23,680 exactly. They make a ton of products. And he wanted so badly to be able to go home to be with 304 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:31,200 his family. You know, during he wasted so much time at work because the work culture was now 305 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:36,560 built around the time that employees take on Facebook, the time that they take breaks kind 306 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:42,560 of chit chatting together. They have like beer pong, you know, as part of the culture that might 307 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:46,560 not have been in his case, but they had different office breaks and team culture activities and all 308 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:53,680 that. And he was able to get all of his work done within a matter of three hours. And, you know, 309 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:59,280 I remember my my immaturity, I didn't do the corporate thing. So I was like, dude, why don't 310 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:05,760 you just like, like, I don't know, get promoted or like, like seek like a higher position or tell 311 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:14,000 him you're going home. And he explained to me the in diplomatic fashion, how if he worked, if he did 312 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:19,840 more work than everybody else, it makes everybody else look bad. And then he becomes a problem in 313 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:25,760 the office environment. And if he asked to go home, then he also reveals that people, you know, 314 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:30,880 aren't actually doing the full amount of work. It's proof that they're not working up to commit. 315 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:36,080 Yeah, so I was like, oh, my gosh, I was like, that's a horrible problem. I was like, and I've 316 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:42,320 been an entrepreneur since I was 21. I don't have that mentality. You know, I'm like, this is so wow, 317 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:49,760 I wonder why I hate the idea of corporate so much. I couldn't I couldn't do that. Now granted, there 318 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:56,080 are people who strive to make positive changes, our corporations that do have productivity as, 319 00:28:56,080 --> 00:29:01,200 as a part of their job opportunities. But if you find yourself, you know, visionaries, if some of 320 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:08,640 you are part time, or you are part of a corporate culture, and you also don't align with the way 321 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:14,160 that the culture is ran, this is one of the best times on earth to be considering career changes, 322 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:20,080 it's so easy to get new interviews and to potentially find new opportunities. And maybe 323 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:25,680 it's that time to shift to start your own business as well. So go ahead, do you have a final thought 324 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:31,920 on that before we move on to the powerful lesson? Yeah, thank you. You know, I also also was able 325 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:39,600 with that unit of 30 people, some of course didn't work as up to capacity. And some, as I mentioned, 326 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:47,680 worked even harder on and over capacity. So I was really with the only time I was able to 327 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:55,280 really say thank you to the ones that I knew were really working to their full potential, 328 00:29:55,280 --> 00:30:01,760 was at evaluation time, which was really just only once a year, when you actually have to write up 329 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:09,280 an evaluation for them. And so I would just it would be glowing, because that was me saying thank 330 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:20,160 you to doing your job. And, and oftentimes, that was the only way other than maybe I'm just I was 331 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:26,000 just thinking about this the other day. Once a month, we would go out for lunch, because we'd 332 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:32,240 sort of celebrate everybody's birthday that had had a birthday that month. And oftentimes, it would 333 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:38,480 be a Friday. And, you know, you have your hour of lunch. And really, it's Friday afternoon, nobody 334 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:44,880 really wants to go back to the office. And I would just tell them to stay there. I'd say stay for the 335 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:49,360 rest of the afternoon, I'll go back to the office, I was the supervisor, I'll go back to the office, 336 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:53,440 I'll answer the phone, I'll make sure everything's running, you guys have got another, you know, 337 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:59,520 an out, however long you want to stay, you can stay. Because really, that was my way of saying 338 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:05,600 thank you. Thank you for doing such a great job. That's rewarding. And many different ways that's 339 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:12,240 rewarding. So, Pramili, if this is the last chance you had ever to share a powerful lesson that other 340 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:21,120 visionaries can learn from your experience, what would the lesson be? Be curious. Ask questions. 341 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:28,960 Always want to know more than what you might know right now. It's really pretty amazing at what you 342 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:36,880 will find out when you're curious and you ask questions. That has just been, as I mentioned 343 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:44,560 earlier, kind of the way I've been since a very small child. And I really truly believe 344 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:52,000 knowledge and information, as much as we can get, that will help us on our journey. Of course, 345 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,920 we know there's lots of knowledge and information out there that might not be helpful, but that's 346 00:31:55,920 --> 00:32:02,640 okay. You can choose what is helpful. And I would just say, you know, really, 347 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:10,000 just learn. Learn what you can. Absorb what you can. Take it to heart. Make sure that what you're 348 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:18,640 learning and what you're reading is really your purpose and it's in your heart space. And if it's 349 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:27,760 not, then don't go there. Absolutely. I love that. We share that trait. I didn't know it was a 350 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:35,120 learning trait until I took StrengthsFinder 2.0 when I was 21 or 22. And my result came back that 351 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:41,680 my number one strength was learner. And that was surprising because I had a.33 GPA in college. I 352 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:48,640 didn't do well in the university environment. So I had lots of questions about myself and my ability 353 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:56,080 to learn. And, you know, I knew I was intelligent, but I didn't quite know to what capacity I was 354 00:32:56,080 --> 00:33:06,000 and that learning quiz came back and said you were that child who always asked why and asked a ton of 355 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:12,400 questions. Where did you come to hone in on realizing that you were the type of child that 356 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:17,040 asked questions? Did people just tell you you ask a lot of questions or did you discover that later on? 357 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:24,320 Well, my family always were, oh, you ask so many questions. Why do you ask so many questions? 358 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,280 So I think it was mainly because they didn't know how to answer my questions. 359 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:34,240 You know, I very much like you, I did not do well in school. But, you know, when I went to school, 360 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:40,560 maybe when you went to school, learning styles and how people learned was not part of the 361 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:49,360 educational system. So you were just taught, wrote, memorized. I was not good at memorizing. 362 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:56,160 So it wasn't until I was actually had left my corporate job and I was starting to be an 363 00:33:56,160 --> 00:34:03,200 entrepreneur when I realized the language around being an entrepreneur. I actually did that. I've 364 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:09,040 done that my whole life. I just didn't know it. I didn't have the language for it. So that was 365 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:15,280 that was my aha moment. Finally, I think I think I'm in the right spot. 366 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:22,240 Yes, I think it's so interesting that there's generational gaps. There's cultural gaps as well. 367 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,720 Those who have parents, those who don't, there's so many opportunities for us to explore. 368 00:34:26,720 --> 00:34:32,880 How do we get people, you know, on the same page fast enough to make impact, you know, 369 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:40,800 with different individuals in different ways? And I remember my math teacher in sixth grade 370 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:48,640 in sixth grade introducing the ideas of different language learning concepts. 371 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:54,800 And I remember her teaching us about, you know, learning through reading, learning through writing, 372 00:34:55,360 --> 00:35:00,400 learning through audio, learning through visual. You know, she walked through those. 373 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,680 You know, I'm sure I knew which one I gravitate. I think I graduated gravitate towards visual. 374 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:12,240 But I told myself then I was like, I'm just gonna learn them all. You know, that'll make it easy. 375 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:19,600 And so I didn't actually I was I was really good in school, but that became my crocs later, 376 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:25,360 was I would get very bored in subjects. And if I didn't feel I needed to know it, 377 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:31,760 I would do it. You know, you couldn't get me to. So you've got this international wellness 378 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:35,920 community for healing that you're building. I want to learn more about it. I'd love for you 379 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:41,840 to tell us about it. I'll cue Cynthia to to pull up on the screen. The incubation process, it's 380 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:47,760 it you consider it an alpha mode and beta mode. Do you consider it full scale right now? You know, 381 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:54,880 what are you doing with it? Well, we did a beta phase last year, right after we launched the 382 00:35:54,880 --> 00:36:03,040 launched the the website, the website was actually went went live about this time last year. 383 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:09,440 And then I did a beta phase with 30 practitioners, I had some helping me do all the testing that 384 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:16,960 needed to be done. And so I guess we're certainly not launched or we're launched when it comes to 385 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:22,720 the website. Of course, it's up and running. But maybe what was the second one, the elf, 386 00:36:22,720 --> 00:36:29,360 the alpha, where we're in the growth process now. So normally, and this is not this is 387 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:34,960 JK Rowling wrote a book on a napkin and became a billionaire. So take strategy for what it is, 388 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:39,440 right? You know, it's it's not guaranteed success. But typically, there's the alpha phase, 389 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:46,160 then there's the beta phase. Right. So alpha is usually pre beta launch. Okay. And again, 390 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:50,160 there's all sorts of structures behind it and scrum and agile and waterfall and blah, blah, 391 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:56,560 blah, like talking about operational stuff that has driven 96% of businesses to fail over 10 years. 392 00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:05,280 So you know, how much is it really worth worrying about? Tomato, tomato, right? I like to eat it. 393 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:10,320 I don't care what you call it. So with your with your business and brand, there's always going to 394 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:14,000 be opportunities for growth and improvement. But I just want to know kind of where it's at, 395 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:19,280 who's getting involved? What's what's the path ahead? What can people expect to get out of the 396 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:28,480 Institute right now? Well, presently, we have 10 practitioners representing six countries. My vision, 397 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:35,680 of course, is to grow that to 12 plus countries over 200 plus practitioners, here's some of the 398 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:44,240 practitioners, this is great. And so what people can can do right now is they can come to the 399 00:37:44,240 --> 00:37:49,520 Healing Institute, there are five different categories that I created. Under each one of 400 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:55,360 the categories are the modalities, which is a link. So when you click on the link, whatever that 401 00:37:55,360 --> 00:38:02,400 modality might be, whether it's breathwork, or whether it's counseling, yes, there are therapies, 402 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:09,840 all of those, those five different categories, under each one of those categories is the link 403 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:15,760 to the practitioners. So those are the modalities. Let's play with one of them. Let's play with one 404 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:22,160 of them. Which one? Yeah, let's go to coaching. I usually use coaching as my example. And then go 405 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:31,440 to the wellness, well being it's on the bottom of the left column. Perfect. Yeah. So we have two 406 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:39,040 practitioners that call themselves wellness, well being coaches. Gina is in South Africa, for example, 407 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:46,320 and Marie is in Portland, Oregon. And so the way I designed the website was mainly for clients to 408 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:53,920 self identify what they're looking for. And so you can click on their get to know more button, 409 00:38:53,920 --> 00:39:01,520 and that will pop up there. Their full profile. And then as you scroll down, you can book with them. 410 00:39:02,240 --> 00:39:08,080 And the book now button, then the modalities are described what they are, the book now button takes 411 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:15,520 you then to a page that you can book with them, either the complimentary service, everybody has a 412 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:22,720 complimentary consultation of some kind, because as we know, in the health and wellness area, a lot 413 00:39:22,720 --> 00:39:28,000 of people are searching and they don't, they may not know exactly what they want. So they can 414 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:34,000 definitely do that. And then once you, you, you as a client, decide that that's what you want to do, 415 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:39,520 what, who you want to work with, then there's a book, there's a, the book button takes you to 416 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:44,800 their calendar. And then there's a payment button that will take you to pay for the session. Of 417 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:51,520 course, the complimentary sessions are complimentary. Yeah. And that will, that you get to have a chat 418 00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:57,920 with the practitioner and, and decide most of the practitioners have more than one modality. So you 419 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:03,840 have to have a conversation to find out what is going to be the best fit. Nice. So it looks like 420 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:11,280 you were somewhat on the heels of better help. The, the program that connects somebody quickly 421 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:17,760 to a therapist. However, there's also more filtering involved with different types of 422 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:22,880 wellness and healing and help that one's able to get access to. Is that fair to say? 423 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:29,200 Yes, absolutely. I love that. And there is, there's a lot of room for streamlining and curating this. I 424 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:34,240 I worked, I helped a therapist build her website years ago. It was an awful experience, by the way. 425 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:41,440 And, and, and despite the reality that as marketers, we get blamed for almost everything 426 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:49,760 that the business owner does wrong. It's, it's always the marketer's fault. But the, the real 427 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:54,960 challenge that we came across was we were talking about unique selling proposition and her unique 428 00:40:54,960 --> 00:41:01,440 selling proposition was I changed lives. And, you know, I love that that's what she does for people. 429 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:10,080 And I asked her, how many other therapists in Austin, Texas, do you think also feel their 430 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:16,400 unique selling proposition is that they change lives? And she, I don't think I've seen a lady 431 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:22,240 more petrified in my life. As she addressed the reality that her unique selling proposition wasn't 432 00:41:22,240 --> 00:41:28,560 unique at all. It was what every single person in her field claims, you know, and wants to do. 433 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:37,600 And so the, the challenge as providers of healing that we often face as well, and this is again, 434 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:42,960 the rest of you who are holistic professionals, it's not a bad idea to align with a better help. 435 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:48,640 It's not a bad idea to align with a healing Institute where people do have options because 436 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:54,800 of the market at large. They do want options. They want to know what makes you unique. They want to 437 00:41:54,800 --> 00:42:06,080 know what accolades you may have. They want to belong to a greater community as well. And so the 438 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:12,320 fact that you're building it, it's audacious. It's a huge vision and plan. I love that. And I 100% 439 00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:18,160 hope that you continue to build and build and make this amazing because there's, there's so much room 440 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:23,200 for more institutes. If we can have more than 2000 universities and still need more, 441 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:29,360 we could absolutely have more than one better help. Absolutely. We have plenty of room for 442 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:33,200 institutes that are building what it is you're after. So are there any other elements of the 443 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:38,880 vision that you'd like to share? Well, we are a wellness, an inter, I call it, I think our 444 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:46,400 subtitle is an international wellness community. And so we are looking at, we, we see ourselves 445 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:53,680 as a community. So a community of holistic practitioners, a community of clients. And so 446 00:42:53,680 --> 00:43:00,960 when clients come to the Healy Institute, whatever modality they may choose or pick or complimentary 447 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:08,320 consultation, they might start it once they are in our community, we are going to look after them. 448 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:13,760 So it's, it's perfect for clients because it's almost one stop shopping. So just because they 449 00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:20,480 came, let's say they decided to come and, and try out body code, emotion code work, which is what I 450 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:27,440 do. But if I know, and I can see even with our complimentary session, there's, you know, the Marie 451 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:33,440 who does this amazing, she's an amazing breath facilitator, conscious breathing facilitator, 452 00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:41,600 or another lady who, who, and Gina, who also we saw today, she does a bio energetic feedback. 453 00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:49,520 So we are, we actually, as practitioners in our wellness community, refer clients back and forth. 454 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:54,880 So we're not hanging onto them just because they knocked on our door. First, we're looking at the, 455 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:59,920 what I call the whole person client. So it's looking at everything that the client needs. 456 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:04,160 Absolutely fixing that and helping fulfill that. 457 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:11,040 That's, that's really neat. There's a, you know, as, as small business champions, especially as a 458 00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:16,960 Texan, you know, we, we tend to really gravitate towards small business. Sometimes we forget the 459 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:22,800 value of the services that are regulated, you know, that we, that we take for granted and we think 460 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:29,040 big business is bad. That's not necessarily true. You know, yes, I do like my hole in the wall 461 00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:35,360 restaurants and I'll go to them. And there's a sense of certainty and comfort where I'm taking my 462 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:41,120 kids to Chick-fil-A, you know, I know exactly what I'm going to get. I know exactly what their 463 00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:46,640 experience is going to be like. And if I have anything less than your typical Chick-fil-A experience, 464 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:52,240 I've got a parent company that I can gravitate towards and say, Hey, this isn't right. You know, 465 00:44:52,240 --> 00:44:56,400 we didn't, we didn't have the experience that we want or that we anticipated based on all of our 466 00:44:56,400 --> 00:45:01,760 other experiences. And they are the type of entity that will take care of you and that cares about 467 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:09,280 that and it cares about their customers. So there's, there are opportunities for more stability, 468 00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:15,120 more security, better service in the environment of, of, of layers of communities, right? And that 469 00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:20,320 looks to be what the Haley Institute is, is ultimately going to be involved with providing. 470 00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:25,600 So, well, we, we wish you the best as you continue to develop the vision. We'll be excited to check 471 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:30,400 in on it every once in a while and see how things are going. And of course our, our network is your 472 00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:36,400 network and the same reality. Anybody who's listening in, if you have desires to reconnect 473 00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:41,040 with Pramalia, of course we'll have the links and the show notes on the landing page. So you can 474 00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:45,520 connect with her at the links that we provide there. Also, if you have a question or comment, 475 00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:49,840 you just want to drop it right now in the comment box. We'll make sure to respond to those after the 476 00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:54,400 fact as well. And if you have a vision that you'd like to share, if you've got something that you're 477 00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:59,920 building or have built, you know, like, man, I would love to talk about it with, with an audience. 478 00:45:59,920 --> 00:46:04,240 And there's a button in the top right corner to be our guest. You can actually click the button, 479 00:46:04,240 --> 00:46:10,480 apply to be our guest. We'd be happy to host your vision depending on your leadership skills. 480 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:18,240 That's what we're looking for. We're looking for people who exude great leadership attributes, 481 00:46:18,240 --> 00:46:22,400 people that we really want to put on the stage and then we're inspired to support. 482 00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:26,400 It doesn't matter if your vision's in the beginning or if your vision is, you know, 483 00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:30,880 Bill Gates, come and join us, man. Michael Jordan, come jump on our show. We'd love to have you. 484 00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:37,840 LeBron James too, always. My number one, Michael, I'm sorry. LeBron's number one. 485 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:43,120 But anyway, we'd love to have you on the show. And if you have been inspired by these episodes, 486 00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:48,640 like, subscribe, comment, you know, share this show with others. It's our way of, 487 00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:53,760 that's how we find new people to bring on the show. So, Pramila, it's been an honor to have you here 488 00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:58,960 and I look forward to talking to you more in the coming days. Thank you so much, Jackson. I'm 489 00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:04,480 delighted to have been here and thank you to everyone who popped on and listened to the show 490 00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:08,960 today. See you on the next show, Vision Pros. Take care, everybody. Thank you for being here today. 491 00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:13,360 I'm really happy that you tuned in to Vision Pros Live. I'm looking forward to seeing your 492 00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:18,080 reactions as these episodes continue to move forward. This is going to get more and more fun. 493 00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:22,080 We'll have more and more engagement as well. We'll invite people to participate in the show. 494 00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:27,040 And thank you for giving us your time and attention. Have an excellent time building out your vision.