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and we won Lady Gaga as a client.

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It was a proud moment for me,

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not because it was a big celebrity,

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not because we got to this big crazy event,

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not because we won pretty much the internet Oscars,

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it's something called the Webbies at the time.

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What was the most great about that experience

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is what I call the eyes light up moment.

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I got to take the team that worked on this project

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to the event, I got to take the team

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that worked on this project to the award show.

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And the eyes light up moment, just the pride in these people

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to get to be at this fancy thing.

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And to be honest, I had never been to something

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at that scale before either.

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And I brought my team.

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For me, that was the moment where I realized

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it was no longer about how good I was at designing

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or how good I was at coding,

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which is what got me into the game to begin with.

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That's where I realized what it was like to lead.

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That's where I realized what it was like to see the impact

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that you can make on other people.