1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,200 All over the US so I grew up in Virginia Pennsylvania, North Carolina 2 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:10,540 I've spent a good a good chunk of my time in Utah 3 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:13,400 Okay. Well nice what part? 4 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:19,440 It depends so Caysville's my favorite one of my favorite location in Caysville 5 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:25,040 I spent a lot of time in Salt Lake City going to school there 6 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:30,080 Currently I live in Bluffdale so down close to Draper for those who are familiar 7 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,800 Yep, God Draper. Oh, no, I remember Bluffdale 8 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:42,240 But that's that's awesome beautiful area and you you have kids family. What's family look like I do so I have 9 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:45,760 two daughters so Olivia and Scarlett 10 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:51,720 Olivia is 14 and Scarlett is 11 or 12. I think she just turned 12 11 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:56,160 Just recently so cool. Yeah awesome 12 00:00:56,160 --> 00:01:02,940 We we started around the exact same time on that track path. My my kids are 12 10 8 and 3 13 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:05,120 so 14 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:10,440 That's uh, I'm sure our 12 year olds wouldn't wreak havoc on the world and the best of ways 15 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:14,240 They're gonna change the world one day for the better. That's right. Absolutely 16 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:19,140 My my family I am I got married later in life 17 00:01:19,140 --> 00:01:22,440 So they're actually step girl or stepdaughters. So 18 00:01:23,320 --> 00:01:31,440 That's awesome. Anyway, you didn't yeah, I love how you you know, you you step fully into that as a 19 00:01:31,960 --> 00:01:33,960 stepchild myself 20 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,040 to have heard my 21 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:38,700 my step parents on both sides 22 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:44,960 Talk with that level of confidence about me would have been a world of 23 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:47,760 wonderfulness 24 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:49,440 So I 25 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:51,440 Appreciate you for honoring your daughters 26 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:53,920 In their way, that's amazing 27 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,760 That's exactly what we're gonna be diving into today 28 00:01:56,760 --> 00:02:03,040 Thanks to you is creating cultures of love and creativity in our home and you've got all these business skills as well 29 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:09,260 To help business owners with their growth and a great background great school that you went to so we'll dive into some of that before 30 00:02:09,260 --> 00:02:10,340 We dive in 31 00:02:10,340 --> 00:02:16,560 What are three of your favorite books and or resources to help visionaries move forward their visions? 32 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:21,360 first is getting things done by David Allen a 33 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:24,800 great book on time management 34 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:31,800 And then the second one is how to win friends and influence people by Dale Carnegie 35 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,800 It's like oh my goodness. Both of those are life-changing 36 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,000 Especially if you read them more than three times 37 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:45,360 I know I told you we'd go fast on this section, but you just mentioned a book that I think you'll dig this a lot 38 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:46,640 Oh 39 00:02:46,640 --> 00:02:48,920 Nice, that's awesome. It's a little 40 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:51,840 It's an og lead magnet 41 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,160 It's what it is. This is from 42 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,280 1936 no way 43 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:04,960 My mom her first husband 44 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:11,460 Rest in peace he died in a plane crash when she was 28. She had they had five little girls 45 00:03:11,460 --> 00:03:18,080 And that was obviously before my time my dad came into the picture, but he was part of a sales a car sales team 46 00:03:18,740 --> 00:03:19,700 and 47 00:03:19,700 --> 00:03:25,940 Either I don't know if Dale came out in person and did the training or for representative of his company did but this was his 48 00:03:26,420 --> 00:03:31,780 So this is one of my little sacred lead magnets that I love to keep around me 49 00:03:31,780 --> 00:03:36,140 That is awesome, and I'd love to get in like an original 50 00:03:36,140 --> 00:03:40,260 Guide from from from him that'd be so cool 51 00:03:40,980 --> 00:03:42,980 and then my third book would be 52 00:03:43,980 --> 00:03:45,980 atomic habits 53 00:03:46,300 --> 00:03:48,300 Originally I would say 54 00:03:49,260 --> 00:03:53,660 The power of habit but atomic habits it's more impactful 55 00:03:53,660 --> 00:03:56,780 I'd definitely say read both if you're looking to really improve 56 00:03:57,420 --> 00:04:04,060 Your habits atomic habits forget. I love that we're on the same vibe right now because last week 57 00:04:04,060 --> 00:04:08,580 I went to YouTube to do another a revisit of atomic habits 58 00:04:08,580 --> 00:04:12,180 I'm gonna grab one of those tutorial links and was listening to 59 00:04:12,900 --> 00:04:17,060 The author speak on stage about it. So it's you know 60 00:04:17,060 --> 00:04:23,100 We're making sure you're always leveling up right and seeing how do we how do we instill these principles deep into ourselves? 61 00:04:23,100 --> 00:04:29,820 How do we teach our team members about these principles as well visionaries lots of opportunities fantastic resources Jason 62 00:04:29,820 --> 00:04:33,860 We'll bring you right back on as we dive into the official portion of the show 63 00:04:34,380 --> 00:04:39,620 All right, welcome in to vision pros live with Jackson Calame. I'm your show host 64 00:04:39,620 --> 00:04:45,820 We'll be doing interviews for visionary entrepreneurs and guest leaders who are building fantastic visions out there 65 00:04:51,100 --> 00:04:56,300 Hey, what's up vision pros welcome into another episode of vision pros live with Jackson Calame 66 00:04:56,300 --> 00:04:59,820 founder and CEO of first-class business, I am 67 00:05:00,140 --> 00:05:04,540 Honored and excited to have Jason T Rogers on the show today 68 00:05:04,540 --> 00:05:07,260 and I don't 69 00:05:07,740 --> 00:05:13,660 Have the words to describe the importance of the alignment for me with this show and episode 70 00:05:14,540 --> 00:05:19,340 For business owners. Yes, Jason does have a whole bag of 71 00:05:19,980 --> 00:05:21,980 Not true business owners 72 00:05:21,980 --> 00:05:26,540 Yes, Jason does have a whole bag of not tricks 73 00:05:27,260 --> 00:05:31,180 Principles that I see that he follows for the sake of driving growth 74 00:05:31,820 --> 00:05:33,820 principally driven people 75 00:05:33,820 --> 00:05:37,840 Usually have an amazing ability to drive productivity and profitability 76 00:05:38,860 --> 00:05:46,540 Beyond the tactics beyond the fads beyond the shiny ball syndromes that are so easy to distract us in today's economy in today's world 77 00:05:46,540 --> 00:05:48,540 Or lack of economy maybe 78 00:05:48,540 --> 00:05:52,460 Depending on how strong you feel about the reality of life and situations 79 00:05:53,100 --> 00:05:58,940 So it's important to know that those dynamics absolutely exist today's focus though will be on 80 00:05:59,580 --> 00:06:06,300 Making sure that not only do we cultivate fantastic businesses, but also a culture of love and creativity in our homes 81 00:06:06,300 --> 00:06:08,860 We can have our cake and eat it too 82 00:06:09,660 --> 00:06:13,820 And that's what we're we're going to be focused on today is a vision of that 83 00:06:14,460 --> 00:06:16,940 In addition to of course being awesome in business 84 00:06:16,940 --> 00:06:20,460 So before we bring Jason on stage, I want to talk about these sponsors 85 00:06:21,100 --> 00:06:24,140 Sean lechuga of the wellness shop 365 86 00:06:24,860 --> 00:06:31,660 Also has the same type of feeling he wants to help people really achieve what he calls integrative nutrition 87 00:06:32,300 --> 00:06:39,500 And wellness and what really struck me was he's taken the naturopath and gone even further with it where it's not just about working out 88 00:06:39,500 --> 00:06:40,780 it's not just about 89 00:06:40,780 --> 00:06:48,540 It's not just about exercise supplements and nutrition, but he's actually got this assessment that evaluates joy spirituality 90 00:06:48,840 --> 00:06:54,240 Creativity your career your education your relationships social life, you know all home environment 91 00:06:54,940 --> 00:06:58,860 And that really struck me. It was like wow like this is an amazing vision and 92 00:06:59,340 --> 00:07:01,660 Can his designs improve for his website? 93 00:07:02,220 --> 00:07:05,740 Just like mine can um, you know, just like every company out there can improve 94 00:07:05,740 --> 00:07:11,020 What's key to me is the core of that vision the way he shows up as a family man. It's been awesome to get to know 95 00:07:11,020 --> 00:07:13,500 Sean over the last six months. He's become one of my best friends 96 00:07:13,820 --> 00:07:19,820 He's become the type of person where i'm considering bringing him in as a business partner on one of my major ventures first-class business 97 00:07:20,140 --> 00:07:23,580 And he's also involved in our pre-shows at vision pros live at this point 98 00:07:24,060 --> 00:07:26,060 So if you get the chance to get to know sean 99 00:07:26,060 --> 00:07:31,500 Um, and you're in a position where you want to you you have a need or a desire to become more healthy 100 00:07:31,820 --> 00:07:33,820 Then he might be one of your key resources 101 00:07:33,820 --> 00:07:36,960 Then there's melissa gray of the law spot the lawspot.com 102 00:07:37,820 --> 00:07:39,500 When I had the chance to bring on the show 103 00:07:39,500 --> 00:07:44,940 I was a little bit nervous because lawyers and I don't tend to get along i'm not they're not very touchy feeling most of the time 104 00:07:45,500 --> 00:07:51,020 Then i'm watching the nurturing. She is the exact opposite. She is a nurturer with the strength of an attorney 105 00:07:51,500 --> 00:07:55,980 Who also understands that legal does not have to be over complicated. In fact, it can be simplified 106 00:07:56,620 --> 00:07:58,620 So she's bridging this gap between 107 00:07:59,020 --> 00:08:03,020 What I see in the world where young entrepreneurs solopreneurs entrepreneurs, you know 108 00:08:03,020 --> 00:08:09,020 We dive into things like legal zoom or crock-a-doc and we get our templates set up. Um, and great. That's awesome 109 00:08:09,100 --> 00:08:10,780 That's that's a helpful start 110 00:08:10,780 --> 00:08:16,460 But in order to be wise stewards of our ventures in order to have ourselves protected from the realities that exist in the world 111 00:08:17,020 --> 00:08:19,580 Especially as you scale and grow and become notable 112 00:08:20,220 --> 00:08:25,740 You're going to run across occasions where there's cease and desists or there's demand letters or there's somebody who's trying to sue you 113 00:08:26,300 --> 00:08:27,580 workers comp 114 00:08:27,580 --> 00:08:33,900 Situations that it's inevitable when you're growing to not have growing pains that occur. What's most painful 115 00:08:33,980 --> 00:08:39,580 I found is when you're caught blindsided by that and you have to hire an attorney last minute and you didn't have somebody on legal 116 00:08:39,580 --> 00:08:40,840 counsel 117 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:47,340 95 of the companies that i've worked with did not have somebody on legal counsel while I was with them and that is scary 118 00:08:47,820 --> 00:08:51,980 In addition to that the five percent that do and i'm making these statistics up by the way 119 00:08:52,140 --> 00:08:52,940 but 120 00:08:52,940 --> 00:08:58,140 I'm pretty darn confident with the few thousand businesses that i've worked with that that was the case 121 00:08:58,460 --> 00:09:05,100 And in the case where I saw them getting these problems, they usually hired somebody last minute on a retainer that was far far overpriced 122 00:09:05,660 --> 00:09:08,140 And somebody who didn't necessarily have their their best 123 00:09:09,340 --> 00:09:16,700 Their needs at heart and when you're an attorney in a city like san antonio of over 1 million people and demand is in your favor 124 00:09:17,580 --> 00:09:19,580 How can you slow down and take the time? 125 00:09:19,580 --> 00:09:24,060 Um for four people that's at least how I see most attorneys view the situation 126 00:09:24,300 --> 00:09:29,340 So it's far better to find somebody early. I'm not saying hey melissa's your guarantee and the only person 127 00:09:29,580 --> 00:09:31,900 She's something that you somebody you should definitely have considered 128 00:09:32,540 --> 00:09:37,020 In your pocketbook when you are looking at it and you can go catch her interview and see for yourself 129 00:09:37,580 --> 00:09:39,820 What you think of her then there's a water project 130 00:09:40,540 --> 00:09:42,620 I'm missing my water bottle right next to me right now 131 00:09:42,620 --> 00:09:48,060 But how cool and how amazing how miraculous is that that we do have access to clean drinking water every day 132 00:09:48,060 --> 00:09:50,060 I can walk 10 yards and go get it 133 00:09:50,300 --> 00:09:56,940 These children these families they have there's millions of people in the world who don't have access to that and it's something 134 00:09:56,940 --> 00:09:59,100 I don't let myself forget. I want to remember this 135 00:09:59,420 --> 00:10:04,300 I want to make a big impact on helping with this and sometimes that impact comes in the form of sharing 136 00:10:04,780 --> 00:10:09,100 The experience for others in this case the water project does an excellent job of showing us 137 00:10:09,260 --> 00:10:15,740 Which communities need help how many people are going to receive the help and when I look at this picture these kids are celebrating water 138 00:10:15,740 --> 00:10:19,660 They're molding my children celebrate their christmas presents these days 139 00:10:20,220 --> 00:10:23,020 And that hits me and makes me realize wow 140 00:10:23,340 --> 00:10:28,780 I can do more to inspire others to get back to this. I can do more to give back to this myself as well 141 00:10:29,180 --> 00:10:31,180 and uh, you know, I 142 00:10:31,500 --> 00:10:34,860 I won't stop. I mean, it's gonna be a big part of what I do now 143 00:10:35,340 --> 00:10:38,780 if you're in a position to give back awesome if you're in a position to share it, please do if 144 00:10:39,500 --> 00:10:42,940 You have another project that's on your mind and on your heart. Um, you like man 145 00:10:42,940 --> 00:10:46,620 Why doesn't he talk about this cause drop it in the comments? 146 00:10:46,700 --> 00:10:49,980 Give us a chance to talk about it. Give us a chance to look and see if we can contribute 147 00:10:50,140 --> 00:10:55,740 There's eight billion people in this world that we can combine forces and help if we're willing to 148 00:10:56,380 --> 00:10:58,540 And if we just take the time to to make 149 00:10:59,820 --> 00:11:02,460 Make great things happen. So without further ado 150 00:11:03,020 --> 00:11:07,580 I'm going to bring jason t rogers on to uh onto the set and 151 00:11:08,140 --> 00:11:11,980 As I get ready to do that. I want to showcase his website first 152 00:11:11,980 --> 00:11:13,980 um, so 153 00:11:14,460 --> 00:11:18,780 The simplification in his website the the genuine smile that I see in this picture 154 00:11:19,420 --> 00:11:22,380 Those things really really stand out to me as a business owner 155 00:11:22,380 --> 00:11:27,580 Who's constantly looking for new people to be part of my team new vendors new strategic partners, etc 156 00:11:27,980 --> 00:11:32,220 You know doing what you love being able to focus on that simplify the rest 157 00:11:32,620 --> 00:11:35,500 Um understanding that we don't have to waste time 158 00:11:35,500 --> 00:11:42,480 Understanding how business can be simplified and there's systems and there's marketing there's tech solutions that all go into that. I mean it is so clear 159 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:48,000 Um how precise he is about about what he does that it's not hard for me to honor him even though 160 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,840 I just met him and the way he's gone through our process 161 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,640 He's respected our team to be able to get on this stage 162 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,120 all of those aspects 163 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,120 Are things that I evaluate as a business owner? 164 00:11:59,680 --> 00:12:04,880 In order to assess are am I finding people whom I want to work with long term or not? 165 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:12,000 And uh, jason exemplifies an individual who has put a whole lot of time effort and heart and soul mind into what he does 166 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:18,000 As a businessman, so jason, thanks for joining me on vision pros life. Thanks for having me. It's great to be here 167 00:12:18,860 --> 00:12:21,280 Absolutely, man. So we'll dive right in 168 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:24,640 What is your vision for the people that you serve? 169 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,080 Um 170 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,080 My vision 171 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,120 I want to help people achieve their dreams like 172 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,120 That that is my ultimate goal 173 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:42,800 Um, so I have all these different skill sets and each of those skill sets just help me to help others achieve their dreams 174 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,600 And together we can build a better world 175 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:54,880 And that's my ultimate goal like the like the big scheme little I love it. So you are like liam niesen and taken 176 00:12:55,600 --> 00:13:00,480 Um, but you're like the positive version of it. Um, that's fine. You got these skill sets. Um 177 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:03,520 That you can utilize to accomplish that with fantastic 178 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,440 Uh, what's your vision for you? What do you see for yourself on the horizon? 179 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:10,080 um 180 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:11,840 My ultimate vision so 181 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:17,680 I love talking like goals and dreams and stuff. So I always think big right? So i'm a big dreamer 182 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:20,320 um 183 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:22,320 and overall 184 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:27,440 The best way to put it is like I invite joy into my life and the life of those around me by the things 185 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,720 I think the words I say and the things I do, right? 186 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:33,360 um and 187 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:38,160 And my way of expressing that is building creative communities like I love 188 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:42,480 Building communities that inspire creativity and and everything 189 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:44,800 um 190 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:52,000 And I do that in two three three ways. So I run a marketing company called gateway gears 191 00:13:52,560 --> 00:13:54,560 We help our clients 192 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:55,760 um 193 00:13:55,760 --> 00:14:03,680 um with researching their market understanding who it is and then putting together the entire like strategy behind how we're going to 194 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:09,360 Reach that audience and and invite them into accepting their services 195 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:11,200 um 196 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:13,200 the second thing I do is 197 00:14:13,740 --> 00:14:15,740 um filmmaking so 198 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:20,660 I I work as a line producer for a film production company called combi productions 199 00:14:20,660 --> 00:14:25,380 Um, and in the summer we make full-length films. So we finished 200 00:14:26,100 --> 00:14:28,100 Uh our third film last year 201 00:14:28,660 --> 00:14:35,140 And they're not like huge budget films. You're looking our last one was about two hundred thousand dollars for the budget 202 00:14:35,140 --> 00:14:36,660 so it's not like 203 00:14:36,660 --> 00:14:38,340 ginormous, but 204 00:14:38,340 --> 00:14:40,740 They're they're a lot of fun to do. Um, yeah 205 00:14:41,620 --> 00:14:44,900 And then the third thing I do is I love teaching social skills 206 00:14:44,900 --> 00:14:50,420 Like that was one thing in college. I struggled with the most was really understanding 207 00:14:51,220 --> 00:14:53,220 how social interactions work 208 00:14:53,620 --> 00:14:55,060 um, and 209 00:14:55,060 --> 00:14:57,700 And if you don't have the right social skills 210 00:14:58,260 --> 00:15:00,660 It's almost impossible to achieve any dream 211 00:15:01,220 --> 00:15:04,100 so it's like it's crucial that people know how to 212 00:15:04,580 --> 00:15:10,020 develop healthy relationships and communicate clearly and feel confident in a room and that's 213 00:15:10,020 --> 00:15:14,820 um, and those are the three things I do to build creative communities and 214 00:15:15,540 --> 00:15:17,540 Invite join to people's lives 215 00:15:18,420 --> 00:15:22,660 That's amazing. Um, and I appreciate the clarity the 216 00:15:23,460 --> 00:15:27,720 The understanding of of how those components all connect as well to communities 217 00:15:28,260 --> 00:15:36,180 Um, and one one secret power that I learned through a ted talk called everything that we know about addiction is wrong 218 00:15:36,740 --> 00:15:37,700 um 219 00:15:37,700 --> 00:15:41,460 He taught you you read it. Okay. I love that one. Yeah, oh my gosh 220 00:15:42,180 --> 00:15:43,060 and 221 00:15:43,060 --> 00:15:46,740 he talks about how the secret the core secret of 222 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:52,500 Overcoming our addictions whether your addiction is netflix or tik tok 223 00:15:53,140 --> 00:15:55,460 You know or it happens to be music 224 00:15:55,860 --> 00:15:57,860 um or chocolate 225 00:15:57,940 --> 00:15:58,880 or 226 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:00,820 pornography or 227 00:16:00,820 --> 00:16:05,380 Cocaine there's all sorts of different addictions out there. Um, some of them we justify more than others 228 00:16:05,380 --> 00:16:09,620 And we've got the opportunity he says if we could help people belong 229 00:16:10,580 --> 00:16:17,560 Or really belong in society belong to something a community as a superpower there. Well that same superpower transitions 230 00:16:18,100 --> 00:16:21,380 Or rather exists within business as well 231 00:16:21,380 --> 00:16:26,180 And most business owners don't realize that is one of the biggest keys to customer loyalty 232 00:16:26,500 --> 00:16:32,340 And keeping people around is knowing how to manage and well how to inspire manage and build a community 233 00:16:32,340 --> 00:16:35,540 So we'll we'll come back to that thought. I love that 234 00:16:35,620 --> 00:16:41,700 That was one of my favorite ted talks, by the way where he gives the example of these studies with the rats, right? 235 00:16:42,100 --> 00:16:44,100 and and how they 236 00:16:44,260 --> 00:16:47,860 The rats that had the opportunity to have cocaine 237 00:16:48,580 --> 00:16:53,300 But and and lived alone in a cage were just like gobbling it up 238 00:16:53,620 --> 00:16:56,340 But those who were a part of a group 239 00:16:56,980 --> 00:17:01,140 They barely touched the stuff and because of the community that they were a part of 240 00:17:01,140 --> 00:17:04,100 It's just like wow, it's so fascinating 241 00:17:04,660 --> 00:17:08,500 I actually I forgot about that part. I remembered the the study on Portugal 242 00:17:09,060 --> 00:17:11,380 Um, and how they they don't you know? 243 00:17:12,180 --> 00:17:14,180 Shame and guilt the prisoners 244 00:17:14,660 --> 00:17:19,940 Um, you know, but they find a way to get them back on a on a great path so that they can reintegrate in society 245 00:17:20,420 --> 00:17:22,580 Um the success that they've seen that and that 246 00:17:23,300 --> 00:17:25,300 In that country. I was gonna say place 247 00:17:25,300 --> 00:17:27,780 um that country, um, so 248 00:17:27,780 --> 00:17:33,940 So when you talked about uh, you know teaching social skills, um, you know as entrepreneurs as visionaries 249 00:17:33,940 --> 00:17:36,500 We've all got an opportunity to learn so much more about that 250 00:17:36,500 --> 00:17:42,500 Um, you know, we we might be the most social butterfly in the world and yet we still have an opportunity to learn 251 00:17:43,220 --> 00:17:49,540 Um filmmaking 200 000. I would love to link to one of the films in the show notes on the landing page. Would that be okay? 252 00:17:49,940 --> 00:17:53,620 Yeah, sure. Absolutely. Make sure you do that. Love to check that out. Okay 253 00:17:53,620 --> 00:17:59,460 Uh, where do I put that? Do I just don't worry. We'll do that after um, we'll get it for me right after but yeah 254 00:17:59,460 --> 00:18:03,700 I want to make sure that we put one of those in there. Our most popular one right now is called devil's men 255 00:18:04,660 --> 00:18:08,100 Um, and we were hired as the crew to make that one 256 00:18:08,660 --> 00:18:11,140 So, okay, we weren't in charge of the script 257 00:18:11,940 --> 00:18:12,740 um 258 00:18:12,740 --> 00:18:15,780 So we were just crew just to give the heads up 259 00:18:16,660 --> 00:18:21,380 Sure. Sure. There's always a portion of our you know, yep. I get you 260 00:18:21,380 --> 00:18:28,340 Uh, let's dive into a dark subject speaking of devil. Um, what's your worst leadership experience ever? 261 00:18:28,820 --> 00:18:30,260 oh, man 262 00:18:30,260 --> 00:18:31,540 the worst 263 00:18:31,540 --> 00:18:33,540 is letting people go like 264 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:39,460 Recognizing that they're not a fit in your community or in your your business community 265 00:18:40,100 --> 00:18:41,220 um 266 00:18:41,220 --> 00:18:43,780 and they're not performing their best because they 267 00:18:44,820 --> 00:18:46,420 um 268 00:18:46,420 --> 00:18:51,860 It's just like letting them go but that is the hardest thing I I have to do and honestly 269 00:18:51,860 --> 00:18:57,860 I have no idea if i'm doing it right and i'd love to learn more i'm just like what's the best way to do that? 270 00:18:58,020 --> 00:19:00,020 you know, it's just because I 271 00:19:00,340 --> 00:19:02,260 I love 272 00:19:02,260 --> 00:19:03,140 like 273 00:19:03,140 --> 00:19:07,300 Not only when it comes to my my clients of helping them achieve their dreams, right? 274 00:19:07,380 --> 00:19:11,220 but it's also goes same way with my my team and my my uh 275 00:19:12,100 --> 00:19:14,340 Like everyone on my team. It's like they're there 276 00:19:14,340 --> 00:19:16,340 because I 277 00:19:16,340 --> 00:19:21,060 One of the key questions I ask in interviews is like what's your dream? 278 00:19:21,060 --> 00:19:24,500 What are you trying to accomplish? And I want to make sure that 279 00:19:25,220 --> 00:19:27,220 what we're giving them in 280 00:19:27,940 --> 00:19:33,140 And projects is helping them to get closer to what they want to achieve with their life 281 00:19:33,140 --> 00:19:34,500 so it's like 282 00:19:34,500 --> 00:19:40,180 So with that opportunity and then if they they're not performing well our stuff is just it comes down to the fact that 283 00:19:40,180 --> 00:19:44,420 Ultimately, it just wasn't a good fit, but also they're not clear on their purpose either. Yeah 284 00:19:44,420 --> 00:19:47,220 So and it's just hard to let people go on that 285 00:19:48,020 --> 00:19:49,220 Absolutely 286 00:19:49,220 --> 00:19:51,220 I'll give my two cents on it if you don't mind 287 00:19:52,020 --> 00:19:56,180 I've got some I think I got some really great secrets learned over 288 00:19:57,140 --> 00:19:58,420 loss of people 289 00:19:58,420 --> 00:20:01,940 And over the pain painful reality that I didn't know how to do this either 290 00:20:02,740 --> 00:20:08,820 And I learned some very valuable lessons along the way of how do I optimize these processes so that I can better understand 291 00:20:08,820 --> 00:20:13,300 These processes so that I can better take care of the people that I love and care about when things don't work out 292 00:20:13,700 --> 00:20:17,540 you know and so that that goes all the way to the home as well of 293 00:20:18,100 --> 00:20:20,100 two divorces 294 00:20:20,100 --> 00:20:25,380 You know and and going through that, you know, that's in addition to having lost many employees along the way 295 00:20:25,380 --> 00:20:29,060 But when I when I made a shift in transition what's worked for me is one 296 00:20:29,700 --> 00:20:32,260 Being far more calculated about who I bring in 297 00:20:32,820 --> 00:20:38,020 to the company having a combine set up a set of filters much like the nfl and the nba 298 00:20:38,020 --> 00:20:44,500 They have certain qualifications to even get to the tryouts and the more filtered that process is the more people realize 299 00:20:44,580 --> 00:20:47,300 I don't know if i'm cut out for that. I don't know if I want to be a part of that 300 00:20:47,300 --> 00:20:52,740 I don't know if I like that before the relationship even starts. Um, so think dating 301 00:20:53,360 --> 00:20:54,580 courtship 302 00:20:54,580 --> 00:20:59,940 Then engagement then moving forward to the marriage when we create a process that helps 303 00:20:59,940 --> 00:21:07,540 Honor everybody's time that's step number one and anybody can go to first class business and attempt to model our hiring process 304 00:21:07,540 --> 00:21:13,700 All right. It's all there for a very very solid reason two in addition to that when people come into our company 305 00:21:13,700 --> 00:21:20,180 There's two resources among many but the two that are most important that are most overlooked for companies is 306 00:21:20,580 --> 00:21:23,460 I've got a passion pro assessments called it's a passion pro.org 307 00:21:24,100 --> 00:21:28,100 And every employee every client clients later than employees 308 00:21:28,100 --> 00:21:30,100 But the employees fill that out right away 309 00:21:30,100 --> 00:21:37,220 And it helps us understand their strengths weaknesses opportunities and threats it helps them become self-aware of what their passions are 310 00:21:37,700 --> 00:21:40,500 And now we can align the path for what they do with us 311 00:21:40,980 --> 00:21:50,500 So that we become a vehicle for helping them get to and accomplish their purpose and it's amazing how it transfers into an incredible energy of woe 312 00:21:50,820 --> 00:21:54,820 I want this vehicle to win because this vehicle is taking me to my destination 313 00:21:54,820 --> 00:22:02,500 As they build with us three because of our name first class business. We never can provide second class service 314 00:22:02,500 --> 00:22:08,820 I did that on purpose but as but as part of that we have to have a first class environment 315 00:22:08,820 --> 00:22:12,980 And we have to be dedicated to championship level behaviors, which is not easy to do 316 00:22:12,980 --> 00:22:14,980 There's a book called the five dysfunctions of a team 317 00:22:15,780 --> 00:22:18,980 That's required reading or listening rather for the first week 318 00:22:18,980 --> 00:22:23,540 You've got to listen to that book and then we've got to teach after they've done that 319 00:22:23,540 --> 00:22:30,820 Teach after they've heard the book the principles of how to recognize the symptoms of dysfunctional teamwork versus functional teamwork 320 00:22:31,380 --> 00:22:33,780 all of that really helps us to where 321 00:22:34,580 --> 00:22:38,660 When we do have an off-boarding or an exit in the company my last 322 00:22:39,380 --> 00:22:42,980 Five or six people who've exited the company exited on great terms 323 00:22:43,620 --> 00:22:46,180 They were excited about that. They were happy about their time here 324 00:22:46,420 --> 00:22:49,940 They moved to these new opportunities where they happen to make more money, which is awesome 325 00:22:50,580 --> 00:22:52,740 And i've been contacted by two of them 326 00:22:52,740 --> 00:22:54,740 Right before christmas. I said hey man 327 00:22:55,140 --> 00:22:57,140 I really miss it. Can we come back? 328 00:22:57,140 --> 00:23:03,140 um, you know and I said well, maybe let's look at the path for that too, but it's been a it's been a 329 00:23:03,140 --> 00:23:05,140 It's been a life-changing experience 330 00:23:05,140 --> 00:23:12,340 When there's a there's a clear path forward. Is that helpful? Oh super helpful. Absolutely. I'm i'd love to 331 00:23:12,340 --> 00:23:15,940 uh read those resources. So you said they're on your website 332 00:23:16,580 --> 00:23:20,980 Passionpro.org is its own project in and of itself with its own grand mission 333 00:23:20,980 --> 00:23:25,220 But we integrate it into our programs and it's it is uh one I created 334 00:23:25,700 --> 00:23:30,820 And then there's the five dysfunctions of the team by patrick. Wincioni. We'll link to it. Um as well read that one 335 00:23:31,540 --> 00:23:33,780 I love that book. I love it. It's amazing. Um 336 00:23:34,660 --> 00:23:36,660 What's your best leadership experience jason? 337 00:23:38,340 --> 00:23:40,340 Man, um 338 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:43,760 2022 it was the 339 00:23:44,980 --> 00:23:47,780 We were doing a virtual christmas party with my team 340 00:23:48,740 --> 00:23:50,180 and uh 341 00:23:50,180 --> 00:23:52,180 my team wanted to 342 00:23:52,500 --> 00:23:58,660 Go around and take a moment each of them to express how grateful they were to be a part of the company and 343 00:23:59,060 --> 00:24:01,220 and how helpful it was for them to 344 00:24:02,100 --> 00:24:03,300 um 345 00:24:03,300 --> 00:24:10,020 To to do what they wanted to do with their lives. I mean it was it was very touching and uh, that's awesome 346 00:24:10,420 --> 00:24:12,100 it was 347 00:24:12,100 --> 00:24:17,140 Um, yeah, it was it was awesome. It's like yeah, that's that's why i'm here. So 348 00:24:17,140 --> 00:24:19,860 I love that. So y'all y'all made the time 349 00:24:20,580 --> 00:24:23,220 Created the space and the environment for that to take place 350 00:24:24,100 --> 00:24:26,980 And what is that? What did that do for? 351 00:24:28,180 --> 00:24:31,940 I guess the culture of the company over the over the weeks that ensued 352 00:24:33,220 --> 00:24:35,220 Um, it definitely 353 00:24:35,860 --> 00:24:39,860 I I don't think anything changed per se with the culture of the company 354 00:24:40,420 --> 00:24:42,420 um people still worked 355 00:24:42,420 --> 00:24:46,740 Um just as hard as they ever they ever do so 356 00:24:47,620 --> 00:24:50,660 But it it definitely helped everyone to feel more 357 00:24:51,940 --> 00:24:53,940 I think comfortable talking to each other 358 00:24:54,820 --> 00:24:55,780 and 359 00:24:55,780 --> 00:24:59,060 um and talking to me, I think just because when 360 00:25:00,180 --> 00:25:06,180 People get nervous, you know, especially my most of my team is in the philippines and their culture 361 00:25:06,740 --> 00:25:10,580 Uh is a little different than here in america. Yeah, or they're they 362 00:25:10,580 --> 00:25:12,820 They are very respectful 363 00:25:13,620 --> 00:25:16,340 um and that and that leans towards 364 00:25:16,900 --> 00:25:20,820 has being hesitant in like following up with people and 365 00:25:21,460 --> 00:25:25,140 And checking and making sure that things are getting done type of thing. So 366 00:25:26,420 --> 00:25:31,220 Absolutely, so and i'll i'm going to rehearse what you said a little bit for those who are listening 367 00:25:31,540 --> 00:25:37,300 One of the things that may be taken for granted on this is what jason's saying is the culture continued 368 00:25:37,300 --> 00:25:41,060 Um, you know, it didn't change anything about the culture because the culture of alignment 369 00:25:41,700 --> 00:25:46,900 I imagine already exists. You said people are still showing up and working just as hard as they have been 370 00:25:47,380 --> 00:25:50,820 Um, right. So I gotta dig backwards in your past and look at that and say, okay 371 00:25:51,620 --> 00:25:55,220 Um, you know, how hard do these individuals work for you? 372 00:25:55,780 --> 00:26:01,700 Um, you know and and what motivates where does the motive come from? Is it because you're the most tyrannical person ever? 373 00:26:01,700 --> 00:26:08,500 Um, and you're slave driving and demanding people to to get their work done and threatening that their job is not going to exist or saying 374 00:26:08,740 --> 00:26:11,300 Little undercuts like hey jason, you know if you don't get that done 375 00:26:11,780 --> 00:26:14,820 By friday, um your toast your history here 376 00:26:15,300 --> 00:26:18,660 Um, you know, is that how you lead or or what is what's your leadership look like? 377 00:26:18,980 --> 00:26:23,140 And what's the what is hardest work like super hard working? What does it look like your team's? 378 00:26:24,340 --> 00:26:26,340 day-to-day drive 379 00:26:28,100 --> 00:26:30,100 Um 380 00:26:30,100 --> 00:26:32,100 It's more on the lines of 381 00:26:32,500 --> 00:26:34,500 um, just following up with them, so 382 00:26:35,860 --> 00:26:37,860 It's a matter of 383 00:26:38,580 --> 00:26:41,700 It's a very good question, by the way, i'm just kind of gathering my thoughts sure 384 00:26:42,580 --> 00:26:44,580 um 385 00:26:44,580 --> 00:26:46,580 It's knowing how to follow up with them 386 00:26:46,820 --> 00:26:47,860 um 387 00:26:47,860 --> 00:26:54,900 To make sure that they're they're clear on the project and their action steps towards that project 388 00:26:55,780 --> 00:26:57,780 making sure that they 389 00:26:57,780 --> 00:27:02,980 Have all the resources and tools available to them to accomplish that action step 390 00:27:03,780 --> 00:27:05,060 um 391 00:27:05,060 --> 00:27:07,060 If i'm not seeing any updates 392 00:27:08,100 --> 00:27:10,820 When they when they record their hours, they also have to 393 00:27:11,700 --> 00:27:13,700 Tell me what they've been working on, right? 394 00:27:14,260 --> 00:27:16,260 um and if 395 00:27:16,340 --> 00:27:18,100 their 396 00:27:18,100 --> 00:27:20,100 Entries are vague 397 00:27:20,580 --> 00:27:26,340 Then it shows me that they're unclear of what they're actually doing so then I follow up with them 398 00:27:26,340 --> 00:27:31,780 It's like so how is this going? Do you have any questions for me? Do you have anything that you're struggling with currently? 399 00:27:32,580 --> 00:27:34,580 um 400 00:27:34,820 --> 00:27:38,580 And my goal is to just always to 401 00:27:40,580 --> 00:27:42,980 Be there to help them, you know, i'm not there to 402 00:27:43,940 --> 00:27:45,220 to really 403 00:27:45,220 --> 00:27:50,500 Tell them what to do like I provide the vision and the project of like this is what we're doing for the client 404 00:27:51,220 --> 00:27:52,340 um 405 00:27:52,340 --> 00:27:56,820 And at first I may like be like this is the next action step. Can you do this? 406 00:27:56,900 --> 00:27:59,860 And occasionally i'll do that where something really needs to get done 407 00:28:00,500 --> 00:28:03,060 But for the most part it's like this is the ultimate vision 408 00:28:04,020 --> 00:28:06,980 Where would you start next and I try to help them to 409 00:28:07,700 --> 00:28:10,740 Kind of brainstorm and coach them through being proactive 410 00:28:11,620 --> 00:28:13,620 So I love that 411 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:15,540 visionaries 412 00:28:15,540 --> 00:28:17,540 None of us like being told what to do 413 00:28:17,540 --> 00:28:24,340 Um, you know, I don't think you'd probably do either. Um, you know if you're listening in and that's what I love that 414 00:28:24,340 --> 00:28:26,340 Jason's referring to is 415 00:28:26,340 --> 00:28:31,780 You know, yeah, you know and you might think like well, how do I make them do what they're going to do? 416 00:28:32,100 --> 00:28:38,020 You know what they're supposed to do if I don't tell them what to do and well again that there's a fallacy in that mindset 417 00:28:38,340 --> 00:28:40,580 Um, I don't make my employees do anything 418 00:28:40,580 --> 00:28:48,500 Uh, you know, I don't tell them what to do. I find people who are excited to do what needs to be done 419 00:28:48,740 --> 00:28:54,100 That want to contribute I invite them and facilitate an opportunity as Jason does and then 420 00:28:54,740 --> 00:29:00,420 As you said, we nurture them forward with with how things can get done. So I just hired go ahead 421 00:29:00,420 --> 00:29:06,260 I try to help them define so the really one of the key principles is defining their role. It's like 422 00:29:06,260 --> 00:29:10,820 This is this is the role you play in the company and with that role. These are 423 00:29:11,300 --> 00:29:15,860 These are your typical daily action steps, but that's those are there just to help 424 00:29:16,340 --> 00:29:24,180 Like keep things rolling but but as your role you want to be thinking about these things and looking for opportunities to serve in these areas 425 00:29:24,580 --> 00:29:27,300 Yeah, take action on those when you see those opportunities 426 00:29:27,700 --> 00:29:30,100 I'll give a tangible example that we're living through right now 427 00:29:30,100 --> 00:29:34,500 We just I just hired an executive assistant in the Philippines. Her name's ang she is 428 00:29:34,500 --> 00:29:36,500 phenomenal 429 00:29:36,500 --> 00:29:42,100 Um, and two weeks ago, she started I had 4500 emails in my inbox 430 00:29:42,580 --> 00:29:44,820 Um, and these emails in my inbox 431 00:29:44,820 --> 00:29:48,500 I mean these were priorities that have just gotten buried over two to three years 432 00:29:48,660 --> 00:29:52,980 Um, and i'm pretty good at filtering and moving but we get 100 200 emails per day 433 00:29:53,380 --> 00:29:58,740 Um in my inbox and so I I don't I miss a lot of very important things too 434 00:29:58,740 --> 00:30:05,940 Uh today and so we did a lot of training the process of how things work, but i'm now at inbox 32 435 00:30:06,740 --> 00:30:13,300 Nice down from 4500. We have i've vetted assessed audited to make sure that as we move on 436 00:30:13,300 --> 00:30:15,860 She's doing the right things the mistakes have been super minimal 437 00:30:16,740 --> 00:30:22,660 We've co-trained on on how my style works. She has time to read my past emails as well and study 438 00:30:22,980 --> 00:30:24,420 How do I respond to people? 439 00:30:24,420 --> 00:30:30,180 How can she pick that up? She inserts her name on most emails letting people know that she's taken over my inbox 440 00:30:30,580 --> 00:30:32,580 um, you know and owns that and 441 00:30:33,140 --> 00:30:34,820 it took a lot of 442 00:30:34,820 --> 00:30:38,500 Of empathetic training to help her realize she was safe to do that 443 00:30:39,140 --> 00:30:41,060 And in our first interview 444 00:30:41,060 --> 00:30:46,260 She was she was crying emotionally that like i've never been treated with this much respect 445 00:30:46,900 --> 00:30:50,980 By somebody i've worked with um, and the last person who was working with her 446 00:30:50,980 --> 00:30:54,900 Uh was paying her a very very low wage 447 00:30:55,380 --> 00:30:59,940 um, and I don't want to reveal that for angisic, um, but then they said 448 00:31:00,980 --> 00:31:07,540 I I found that other people in the philippines make half this amount and I don't think your work is very good 449 00:31:08,340 --> 00:31:10,340 I can't pay you what what you want. I'm talking 450 00:31:11,140 --> 00:31:15,800 An extremely low wage lower than anything i've ever heard of in the philippines 451 00:31:16,340 --> 00:31:19,640 Um, and I was like wow like the amount of disrespect 452 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,640 Um that that occurs 453 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:23,560 Again versus the opposite 454 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:29,400 so if you're and i've got 42 drafts in my inbox because she drafts most of my emails for me so that I can just 455 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,080 Come in with a clear head 456 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:36,280 And hammer out the little details that I need to finish to get back to people as efficiently as possible 457 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:41,000 And she tells me every day she says jackson make sure you're looking at the drafts 458 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:45,800 Make sure you're looking at the drafts, you know, and she's gotten that confidence to know that she can talk to me 459 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,200 So last night we did training on sales. That's awesome 460 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:54,040 I mean that's been such a challenge when it comes to working with someone with the my with the philippine 461 00:31:54,760 --> 00:32:01,720 Pino because they it's really challenging for them to follow up and that's awesome that you've been able to help her get comfortable to be like 462 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:08,040 Be persistent push back on and yeah, and there it is that it's that passive submissive 463 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:12,360 You know reality that they've again they if they haven't been safe in the past 464 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,920 Doing that with people and they've been fired for for being forthright 465 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,760 Then you learn you know, you don't want to get slapped on the hand, you know 466 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:24,440 You don't want to be you don't want to be you don't have your job taken away 467 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:30,840 Um, so it's there is a retraining that occurs there that can be done and she so she loves like every day 468 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:35,240 I'm like, hey, how are you doing one to ten ten? You're absolutely loving it here one. She's like i'm 100 469 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,480 Um, and i'm like, let's keep it there. I mean, let's do what we can so last night 470 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:44,200 We trained on I went to an event and all these people need to be followed up with right away 471 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:50,040 And we've never done that together. So I called her up after seeing all the materials and she got some things ready 472 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,200 But she's so excited about what we're doing now 473 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:57,720 She's creating these long emails trying to teach people like trying to sell people over doing like that. I guess about cells 474 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:01,080 So I was like so we trained on clarity 475 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:03,240 brevity 476 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,240 and open-ended questions 477 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:10,920 Um and paying attention to people's linkedin profiles and how do you show people that you really care about them? 478 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:15,240 Right. We did that one training took about an hour for us to role play back and forth 479 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:22,840 And her entire approach to email and correspondence and helping people 480 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,680 Has transformed she'll never talk to people the same way again 481 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:31,080 Um because that went out of training so you I mean you led me to it 482 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:37,480 Um, but and it's again, I see that you're doing the same type of thing with your team what I like to dive into 483 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:43,160 Jason is if this was your last chance to share a powerful lesson with visionaries about you know 484 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,680 Their experience from your own experience. What what's the lesson you would share? 485 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,560 If you can't do it alone like 486 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,120 No matter what you're trying to accomplish 487 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,760 Nine out of ten, you won't be able to do it alone 488 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,560 so you need to be able to 489 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,120 Learn how to communicate what you need 490 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:08,040 And and trust the people on your team to accomplish what what needs to be done for for that ultimate vision or dream 491 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,880 and and that that vision and dream really needs to be 492 00:34:13,240 --> 00:34:19,400 And impactful enough that it it helps more than than than you you know, if that makes any sense 493 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:26,120 Oh, it makes so much sense. It makes so much. I mean that to me this this is christian philosophy 494 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:33,480 And many other religions say well, that's our philosophy too. And you bet it is I believe that but speaking from the context of what? 495 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,800 I know to support what you're saying 496 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:42,040 And I I love it that you can't do it alone. That's the grand paradox of our relationship with god 497 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:44,600 Is that one? 498 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:50,840 We have to find our relationship with him alone. Um like and and do that. He is the one that we need 499 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:56,440 Um, you know the rest we do not need for the sake of you know them serving us 500 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,160 But we're supposed to be there for them 501 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:05,560 Um, right. We're supposed to facilitate greatness goodness opportunities virtues for others 502 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:10,040 Um, and so when we when we mess that formula up and we start to need other people 503 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:14,200 Um, you know and say, you know, I need you to do x y or z. No, they're not our savior 504 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:20,440 You know that person's just another human being with their own struggles in life and but if we serve them 505 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:24,600 And help them see that we've got a vision correlated with our ultimate destiny 506 00:35:25,240 --> 00:35:28,920 Um, or our ultimate destination then it's amazing how 507 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,760 They all of a sudden gravitate towards hey cool. I'm kind of headed that way, too 508 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:34,520 Why don't we do this together? 509 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:41,480 And it there's like this belonging that occurs in that process. So i'm glad you said that that's the ultimate goal is belonging like 510 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:43,960 everyone 511 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,960 In the world wants to belong somewhere and 512 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:50,280 and that's 513 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,280 And and when it comes to leadership 514 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,600 And and following both of those 515 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:59,160 um, it's all about understanding each other and really accepting and 516 00:35:59,960 --> 00:36:01,080 um 517 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:05,640 Each each part that we play and and respecting each part we play, you know 518 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:07,160 so 519 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,960 I I also want to touch on the other side of 520 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:11,960 of like 521 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,560 I you can't do it alone. But if you're if you're 522 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:24,280 Serving someone which as a business owner, you're serving your your um clients, right? But you're also serving your team 523 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:25,960 your team 524 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:27,480 the 525 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:32,200 Uh, i've once i i'm gonna share the story and then come back to what i'm the point i'm trying to make 526 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:37,420 So a few years back. I was a medical aide for someone who was paraplegic 527 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:39,800 um, and I was uh 528 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:41,800 their assistant for like two years 529 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:43,560 um 530 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:44,600 and 531 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,200 We were 532 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:53,080 Uh, there's a lot involved in being a medical aide no legs or no arms. Um, he could not move his basically 533 00:36:53,800 --> 00:37:01,240 He couldn't move anything from this far down chest down. Okay, so he could he had some movement in his arms 534 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:05,640 He could get up to like here. He had no movement in his his hands 535 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:07,720 He could move his wrists 536 00:37:07,720 --> 00:37:10,440 so like this and we were out 537 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,000 working in his garden 538 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:14,040 and 539 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:17,960 I had an idea of how gardens are supposed to be done, right? 540 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:22,200 Because I've I've ran i've i've managed my dad's garden for years 541 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:23,800 um 542 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:28,920 So we were kind of hitting heads in a sense where he's like I want it done this way 543 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:33,640 And then I was like, but that's that's not the right way or something like that 544 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:39,400 And in my mind, that's what I was thinking and he's like he's like jason. He finally was like jason 545 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,000 I cannot do it myself 546 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,320 You are literally my hands 547 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,960 And I would like you to do it my way because this is my garden 548 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:55,160 And it finally clicked in my brain and that moment's like wow. Okay 549 00:37:56,360 --> 00:38:00,040 I will do it exactly the way you want now because I now understand 550 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:05,880 That I am your hands how liberating for him. It was right and it was also liberating to me, too 551 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,360 It's it allowed me to 552 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,400 It it was very humbling for me 553 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:16,920 But in a really good way a really healthy way because it helped me from that point on to understand 554 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:22,040 That when i'm working with a client or or even when i'm working with my team 555 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:29,160 I'm i'm their hands. I'm i'm helping them in a way that that they cannot help themselves 556 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,160 at that moment, you know 557 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:36,360 And but also also if we're thinking at bigger scale or that way with god 558 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:43,960 I mean, there's this there's a statue in in europe somewhere that was destroyed during the war a jesus statue 559 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,520 That's like standing there and 560 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:50,840 When they were putting it back together, they couldn't find the hands 561 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:52,680 so they 562 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:57,480 They put a plaque underneath there and they're like basically the plaque says you are 563 00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:01,480 You are my hands, you know type of thing. And anyway, it was wow 564 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,200 It was a really impactful moment for me 565 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:11,720 That's powerful. Oh, that's that's really powerful. It reminds me of a movie that I saw that's one of my favorite movies 566 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:14,920 And it's called the intouchables 567 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:17,160 upside 568 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:24,760 The upside it's a french movie and it's about uh this gentleman who was a criminal that then takes care of this guy and 569 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:29,240 and uh their their story of conflict and and bonding and 570 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,680 Man, that's that's amazing that you got to 571 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,400 learn from that experience. Um 572 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,520 So let's dive into um 573 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:46,600 Culture of love creativity into our homes. Um, we got we got two very different paradigms and perspectives on on how 574 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:51,880 Dynamics for family. I'd love to hear from you as far. So one how long have you been married for? 575 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:53,320 three years 576 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,040 three years, okay, um, so 577 00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,880 You know you feel free to talk about family in the past as well 578 00:39:59,960 --> 00:40:05,240 Don't even box you in where do you want to go with this part of the conversation as we talk about culture of love creating? 579 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,040 Creativity in the home and our everyday lives 580 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,160 That's a very good question 581 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,320 Um 582 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:19,800 Maybe what's the best 583 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:23,960 Maybe what's the best with how I found my wife? Let's see that but that's 584 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:26,280 so 585 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,320 Yeah, but I mean other people who are married yet like that, you know 586 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:33,720 They might they might really benefit from this idea of okay. How do I find that from the get-go? 587 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,280 um, right, so yeah, so 588 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,380 When in 2000 I think was 2011 589 00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,720 2010 or 11 I had this dream 590 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:46,600 of my wife actually 591 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:48,440 um 592 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:52,440 and we I was just waking up in bed and 593 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:56,920 She was sleeping next to me and I snuck out of bed brushed my teeth and snuck back into bed 594 00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:02,120 And she started to roll over and she looks she rolls over and that's when I see her face for the first time in the dream 595 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,200 Like oh my goodness. She is gorgeous 596 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:11,160 And I smile and I come in and I give her a small little peck on the lips and she 597 00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:13,480 then like 598 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,440 Have you ever heard of the like yes ending situation? 599 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,440 where 600 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,400 Yeah, maybe it's an improv term 601 00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:27,800 So an improv when someone does something you yes end it type of thing, right? Anyway, so she 602 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,320 She she comes into that kiss with so much passion 603 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:33,240 that 604 00:41:33,240 --> 00:41:38,040 It it was like this moment where I realized she this beautiful woman 605 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:43,160 loves me for who I am for exactly who I am and 606 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:50,680 And when I woke up from that dream I was just like oh wow that is that's the love I want I want and 607 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:52,840 and 608 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:59,880 I realized that I didn't need to be anything different than who I was to find her and I just needed to be patient 609 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,680 um, and it was like 610 00:42:03,240 --> 00:42:04,840 10 years later 611 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:08,600 I find her after like backpacking around the world looking for her 612 00:42:09,240 --> 00:42:10,360 um 613 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:17,320 The I I put together i'm i'm marketing right? So I put together this marketing campaign for myself 614 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:21,000 It's like hey, i'm just and i'm single and I ran on youtube 615 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:23,640 I uh, oh wow 616 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:31,160 By the end I was on like four different dating apps paying for two of them just going down like I had perfected the whole process 617 00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,120 Just to just to find her right? 618 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:35,800 uh 619 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:40,920 Wow, and oh ultimately, yeah, I found her but but along that way 620 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,440 it was in the very beginning it was like 621 00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:50,440 I needed to be confident in myself and who I am and accept myself for who I am 622 00:42:51,220 --> 00:42:53,220 ultimately flaws and all 623 00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,560 and and 624 00:42:56,360 --> 00:43:00,280 And for the relationship to really blossom into growth and anyway 625 00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:06,040 Dude, that's no cool. That's there's there's an old movie actually with the olson twins 626 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:10,600 Um where they did that for their father, um a single father and they put a billboard up 627 00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:12,360 for him 628 00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:18,920 Um, so cheesy movie, of course, but it was definitely cute. Um, that's that's too funny and you know 629 00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:20,680 we 630 00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:25,080 You know not i'm a big believer in the in the scripture of the quote, you know 631 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:29,880 And knocking ye shall and the door shall be open, you know ask and ye shall receive right? 632 00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:36,680 But it doesn't matter what it is, you know, typically what we ask for we do end up eventually cultivating getting 633 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:40,760 um, and whether for good or for bad, um, so 634 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:43,000 on 635 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,240 My side of things, you know, i'm twice divorced 636 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:51,640 And both of them painful painful losses not the circumstance that I wanted to go through in either in either case 637 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:59,640 Um, and certainly my ultimate intent for culture love creativity. Um, and having the home that I want I want to honor 638 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:04,920 The the two mothers of my children. Um, you know, that's something that I want my kids to know that 639 00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,640 I do love and respect them for who they are 640 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:11,320 um, you know in spite of our challenges and 641 00:44:13,240 --> 00:44:16,120 The second divorce led me to realize too though 642 00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:18,520 Um, you know what for now? 643 00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:22,360 I'm married to the idea of my of my children, right? 644 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:29,000 I am good where i'm at and I need to focus on my life with them and not worry about 645 00:44:29,720 --> 00:44:31,000 about 646 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:34,040 overly act like seeking my next uh 647 00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:40,280 My next spouse if I have one, um, but your idea of patience the fact that you went through that for 10 years for the first 648 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:41,960 Go around like 649 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,080 I applaud you for having the discipline to 650 00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:48,840 To want to know yourself, um, you know to want to know how to go about that 651 00:44:49,240 --> 00:44:52,280 Not that it's the path for everybody. I'm grateful for my path 652 00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:53,800 but 653 00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:55,080 what 654 00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,320 What are some of the I guess the internal? 655 00:44:58,200 --> 00:44:59,800 principles of virtue 656 00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:01,160 that 657 00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,400 Allowed you to to to do that 658 00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,920 um, you know that felt right about 659 00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:12,280 Going that route when especially when you come from an lds culture where everybody gets married 660 00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,360 It seems like everybody gets married at 20 years old 661 00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,920 Yeah, they do they get married very young 662 00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:19,560 um 663 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,280 I I think your question is is what? 664 00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,360 um what kept me going or or it's like 665 00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:33,240 For waiting for her for 10 years versus just finding someone who works. Is that the question? 666 00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,720 Yeah, I mean what sustained you through all that? 667 00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,120 um 668 00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:44,680 That initial feeling in the dream where this person really loved me for who I was 669 00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:46,200 um 670 00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,200 and 671 00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:54,360 That makes sense, you know that makes perfect sense that I almost forgot that and that was such a powerful 672 00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:58,760 I was like wow like you got you unlock something that I didn't learn until 673 00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,200 Uh until after during the my first divorce 674 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,000 that I still didn't know how to 675 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:11,000 Realize going into my second but after my second was ending I realized I had this strange 676 00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:17,640 Vision reality while talking to a former business partner of mine dean forbes and I said dude I we're like 677 00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,200 elements on the periodic table 678 00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:25,880 And you and I are like the polarizing ones that if we create if we connect with certain elements 679 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:27,880 It's like bam, you know, and it doesn't go well 680 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:34,680 Um, you know, but we've got to figure out what are the elements out there that can appreciate us for who we are where we're at 681 00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:41,880 That creates a safe environment. Um, you know and and that's you know, when I say safe environment non-toxic environments 682 00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:46,120 Right environment where you've got it also add to it where yeah, it's 683 00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:53,480 In that process is also important to know how I can love her. I can like for who she is. Yeah 684 00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,280 right, so when 685 00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,280 When we were still dating 686 00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:07,500 Um, we had our first like official fight, you know, it was a fight where it could have broken up the whole relationship 687 00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:09,400 um 688 00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:15,320 And the next day I was like I'd like to I would like to go therapy together a couple's therapy 689 00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:20,040 Um, because I wanted to I one I wanted to see if she was open to 690 00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:22,680 Right to self-improvement 691 00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:29,160 And and and what was her what was her purpose? Like what was her reason for self-improvement? Right? 692 00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:34,120 Was it for the relationship? Was it for me? Was it for herself? You know, like 693 00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:35,640 um 694 00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:43,320 and for me like I'm I'm I'm an open book and I and I know for a fact that there are quirks about me and 695 00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:45,800 And weaknesses about me that I can't see 696 00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:48,440 um, and 697 00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,440 So if someone's upset with me 698 00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:54,440 Uh, I would like them to tell me and let me know and why 699 00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,160 so at least I can be aware of 700 00:47:57,640 --> 00:47:58,520 of 701 00:47:58,520 --> 00:47:59,880 that 702 00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:04,040 What happened, you know, right? I I may not change anything 703 00:48:05,240 --> 00:48:07,240 Most time I do 704 00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:15,080 But because that ultimately is still my decision to make is is self-important because I need to I need to make changes for me 705 00:48:15,720 --> 00:48:16,680 um 706 00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:22,760 Because if I if I'm if I'm making those changes for anyone else, um, they're not going to stick 707 00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,120 and same thing in the relationship, so when we 708 00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:30,840 She was completely open to the idea of going to couples therapy 709 00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:33,480 Which was like awesome 710 00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:35,080 and 711 00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:36,520 her 712 00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:41,080 Reasoning at the end of like after we went I think it was like a couple of months or so 713 00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:43,240 um 714 00:48:43,240 --> 00:48:47,000 Of like, okay, I see where we went wrong here. Um 715 00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:53,000 I want to improve myself for me as well. I was like, okay cool. It's not about the relationship 716 00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,000 it's about her which is perfect because 717 00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:59,820 That's that's what what you want. You want her to be able to be self-reflective 718 00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:04,920 And i'm wanting to self-improve for her as well 719 00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:07,960 Because that sticks 720 00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:09,960 um 721 00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:11,560 the 722 00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:13,800 Yeah, yeah, I love that that's 723 00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:15,640 that's um 724 00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:20,280 One of the big reasons why i'm so dedicated to the passion pro.org project that I created 725 00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:26,840 um, you know like I I didn't create that because i'm like god's gift to the world of you know 726 00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:33,160 Oracle knowledge that's not the point. I just learned as at a young age to ask questions of people 727 00:49:33,720 --> 00:49:38,280 To get to know them extremely sincerely and I started to see that my questions 728 00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:40,040 would 729 00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,120 mold people's direction and purpose 730 00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:43,800 into 731 00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:47,560 uh a new purpose one of the final questions in the form 732 00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:49,160 being 733 00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:51,160 What do you want to be remembered for? 734 00:49:51,240 --> 00:49:56,600 um, and that's a fine question to ask but when out without the context of what are somebody's 735 00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,640 Passions, what do they want to do with their time now? 736 00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:04,520 Um, you know, what would their life change like what would their life look like if they had 100 million dollars? 737 00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:09,240 What would they do with their time then what are your strengths and weaknesses? There's a whole there's a whole process 738 00:50:09,240 --> 00:50:14,600 Of getting ourselves into a position to we're truly thinking about our best vision 739 00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:20,280 Um, you know what we want to become at which point that question of what I what I want to be remembered for 740 00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,000 Becomes far more valuable to 741 00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:25,640 our own personal situations 742 00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:30,760 Um, and when you have two people, you know that are trying to form a life together 743 00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:36,600 If one is, you know, you don't always have the nolan ryan story. I'm watching the documentary right now 744 00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:44,680 Uh, and that's nolan ryan is you know, um, it becomes this hall of fame baseball player. Um, and his wife 745 00:50:45,240 --> 00:50:51,000 Um, you know didn't have any concept of what a life like that could look like her resilience loyalty, etc 746 00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:56,200 Allowed them to you know, they they both found a way to find their way together. I don't know how they did it 747 00:50:56,920 --> 00:51:01,880 I'm not saying passion pro is the only way to do it. Obviously for centuries people have figured this out 748 00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:06,760 But if two people do not share a purpose of drive 749 00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:12,120 Then it becomes it can very much become a divide in the relationship 750 00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:14,680 And so how do you how do you inspire? 751 00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:20,520 Your loved one to have the same drive as you I don't pretend to have that answer 752 00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:27,400 But I do I would invite you to explore the value of that for the sake of your family's I would say 753 00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,840 It's not about having the same drive 754 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,400 What is it about? I would say it's about 755 00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:37,000 accepting their drive and where they are 756 00:51:37,720 --> 00:51:38,920 because 757 00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:40,920 they if 758 00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:46,440 Both ways, right? Yeah, that's that that's the challenge is that i'm referring to but I like that equally yolks 759 00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:52,200 It does not mean we both have to run five miles today. Um, right so good. Well said go ahead. That's right 760 00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:54,680 And and it's also understanding 761 00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:58,440 Um, like to make a relationship work 762 00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:06,600 Especially a a romantic relationship and now i've only been married for three years. Yeah, so 763 00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:09,560 Like take it with a grain of salt 764 00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,360 I I did study 765 00:52:13,720 --> 00:52:20,200 So much and like in those 10 years and still today about relationships and how relationships work 766 00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:27,240 How to build them how to cultivate how to love like one of the best books out there is the five love languages another one is 767 00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:31,080 is understanding personality traits and 768 00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:39,640 I love the book the body keeps the score for like giving giving you the language to communicate 769 00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,240 What you're feeling, you know the 770 00:52:43,240 --> 00:52:48,840 And understanding how people react to different traumas that have happened in their life 771 00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:53,720 Because the ultimate thing that's going to get in your in the way of your relationship 772 00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:57,960 Is a trauma that happened in the past and that's still recurring today 773 00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:04,760 That's preventing you from seeing them and loving them for who they are and and loving them the way they want to be loved 774 00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:07,400 Yeah, so well said 775 00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:09,240 I'd add a book to that 776 00:53:09,240 --> 00:53:13,960 Um exact same thought process and that's feelings buried alive never die 777 00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:18,600 And it's a powerful book on overcoming traumas as well 778 00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:24,600 I'm gonna I would say with a healthy with a healthy direction for it. Um, you know, there's 779 00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:30,200 Dealing with overcoming depth like that. You can drown in the depths that you dive into 780 00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:33,960 But you can also explore depth with safety measures 781 00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:39,320 Um, so jason, thank you for for diving into the depths of who you are as a human being 782 00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:44,920 Also, um those who are listening in again jason's a fractional chief marketing officer 783 00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:49,000 Who's got superpowers in hiring as as i've seen in this interview 784 00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:54,920 If you are just catching this definitely go back and and take a listen to how this story unfolded 785 00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:58,200 If you have any questions for us about 786 00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,400 You know what jason's been doing for the past few years 787 00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:07,480 And if you have any questions for us about uh, you know what jason does and and how the business 788 00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:12,440 Works or you have business needs feel free to drop those in the comments. We'll make sure that he receives those 789 00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:20,680 If you have perspectives of your own regarding love creativity homes everyday life activities definitely let us know in the comments 790 00:54:21,240 --> 00:54:26,200 Um, we're both sponges of of knowledge like we're still trying to learn and figure out this path ourselves 791 00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:30,360 As we build our lives, um and strive to keep what's most important 792 00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:33,320 Center, which is I think a constant challenge we all face 793 00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,440 But vision pros also we'd love to see you subscribe 794 00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:42,280 We'd love to see you share this message with other people and if you have a vision you'd like to share on this stage 795 00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:49,160 Then click on the button that says be our guest apply and we look forward to getting here your your wholesome visions 796 00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:52,840 Um, and and we uh, let's see here charles 797 00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:57,800 Can you join? Oh, man. I missed I missed his message on that 798 00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:03,800 Well charles, you can uh definitely join us. Um, you know on the the next episode or of course 799 00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,280 Um apply to to share your vision man 800 00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:11,480 I'd be happy to look at your perspective and and see if it's also something that we should do a full episode on 801 00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:15,800 Um, but i'm honored by the fact that you wanted to jump in so I appreciate that 802 00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:20,040 We have a fantastic rest of your day jason anything else you want to share before we wrap up? 803 00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:22,760 Um 804 00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:24,440 when it comes to relationships 805 00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:30,040 But I wish I had my wife here to kind of like help confirm that that what 806 00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:32,840 What i'm saying is is helpful for her 807 00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:41,880 She's the one where where having her here would really help to be like yes, he's he's doing it right because 808 00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:44,680 She does say thank you 809 00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:50,440 like one of one of the things that I always strive to do is is check in every night to make sure that 810 00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:55,080 She's seen that she's she feels seen that she's feels loved 811 00:55:55,720 --> 00:56:01,320 Um, and and if she doesn't what are different things I can do next? 812 00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:05,080 either that night as we are finishing the night or 813 00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:11,240 The next day to make sure that she is loved, you know, make sure that she knows she is loved and supported 814 00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:14,040 That's profound dedication 815 00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:18,840 What's great is by doing that. Sorry, i'll finish up just 10 seconds left 816 00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:23,320 Uh by doing that she it also inspires her to do the same for me 817 00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:25,160 so 818 00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:29,160 And and and that's that's important. It goes both ways. I love I love that 819 00:56:29,720 --> 00:56:32,860 I learned in feelings bernie live never die namaste 820 00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:39,720 Aloha means my soul honors your soul more perfect as we are change is also perfect 821 00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:46,280 And appreciate you exemplifying that jason for sharing so much wisdom with us and we will see you guys on the next episode 822 00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:50,280 Thank you for being here today. I'm really happy that you tuned in to vision pros live 823 00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:55,240 I'm looking forward to seeing your reactions as these episodes continue to move forward 824 00:56:55,240 --> 00:56:58,840 This is going to get more and more fun. We'll have more and more engagement as well 825 00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:03,240 We'll invite people to participate in the show and thank you for giving us your time and attention 826 00:57:03,240 --> 00:57:17,240 Have an excellent time building out your vision and becoming a vision pro yourself