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You got a lot going on?

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I mean, I'm kind of low on client load right now, so I've just been taking that

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It looks so good.

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Kind of those back office kind of things that often get put to the side when

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how awesome you are at what you do.

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Like it's, it's so we, we, for those who are listening, we want to hire Kate as

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She's on my goal list of like, okay, we've got to make something happen with Kate.

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Um, so that's coming along now.

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So to prelude that I did, I did get lucky and here's my question for you.

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were able to find the exact replica of you at $400 a month, would you hire them?

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At $400 a month.

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This goes way beyond one person hated 100% steel, still on my radar.

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Ang is my new executive assistant.

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then some anytime we can find somebody with your skillset and, and I'm going to

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share one screenshot related to this, uh, not screenshot, but, but whether

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you're a business owner or not, but website, I started paying attention to this

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towards quarter four of last year that there's this metric average revenue per

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employee that most small businesses, in fact, I've never heard a small business

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talk about this, but I was thinking about it like, man, I wonder how much major,

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major companies out there are willing to, uh, well, I wonder how close to the

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break even mark a company's willing to be with a specific employee.

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and gas industry, this chart right here represents millions.

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I was like, what?

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That's what capitalism, you know, that's, that's what capitalism is all about.

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to, uh, you know, janitors and virtual assistants, et cetera, who, you know,

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just cause I can find somebody for $400 a month does not negate the fact that

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if Kate, if you're charging $10,000 a month, but you're producing revenues at

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a hundred thousand dollars a month.

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All day long, I'm paying that I'm paid 12.

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little can I pay them?

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help put her on a fast track towards the goals that she hasn't even been willing

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to admit that she has to people.

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How fast people buy into the concepts of what you're up to and want to work with

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And again, I see you doing so many good things for people that I hope that

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everybody's listening and understands that you are an absolute key to business

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growth and, and the success of many of the visionaries out there that I see

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struggling without somebody like you by their side.

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I appreciate that.

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Welcome in to vision pros live with Jackson Calame.

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I'm your show host.

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We'll be doing interviews for visionary entrepreneurs and guest leaders who are

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building fantastic visions out there.

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Hey, what's up?

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Vision pros.

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Welcome into another episode of vision pros live.

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I'm your show host, Jackson Calame, founder and CEO of first-class business.

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And I am beyond excited, probably too excited to have Kate Lingoni on the, on

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the call today, um, as our guest expert.

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She is somebody that has gone through interviews with first-class business to

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represent myself not only as an executive assistant, but as a business

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partner, as a business partner, as a business partner, as a business partner,

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as a first-class business to represent myself not only as an executive

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assistant, but somebody to take care of the operational support, much like a

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chief operating officer, um, slash director of get things done, et cetera.

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Um, she's got a super special skillset and being able to cut through the BS

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and noise of business and dive in dynamically and help businesses with

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growth.

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I learned that not just through meeting her and then going through her process

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information about my business, but by the conversations that we then had after, we had

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a couple of mastermind sessions after that and looking at, okay, how do I maintain Kate

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on my radar so that when the day comes where we can pull that trigger and pull her on board

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as a startup that needs more growth capacity, that needs more people to help with growth,

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but also is balancing revenues just like any other company and our different investment

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opportunities.

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How do I make sure that I put our brand in a position as soon as possible to be able

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to work with Kate at a level that honors what she's capable of?

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So she has my full endorsement as somebody who could be excellent for an operation.

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And for the sake of her future and what she's up to for a vision, my challenge to you is

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who's going to get to her first, me or you.

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Moving into sponsors, The Wellness Shop 365 with Sean and Julián Lechuga.

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I love their vision.

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I love what they're up to.

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They're in the process, we're in the process actually of overhauling their brand to simplify

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their messaging and showcase the value that really struck me.

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And it's right below what we're looking at right now, which is this 365 Harmony of Life

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It's very rare to find, well, if you look for naturopaths and holistic health professionals,

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they have more time than your traditional doctor to look at your wellbeing from a preventative

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standpoint rather than from the standpoint of, oh crap, I have a symptom, please give

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me a pill.

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And so we need both types of individuals in the world, those who take care of us after

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we're sick, but those who also teach us about our health.

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I love that they incorporate joy, spirituality, finances, career, education, health, home

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environment, home cooking, relationships, social life, all of these things, these factors

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that most wellness professionals just don't dive into.

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It makes me see like, wow, okay, there's a depth to this and appreciation for life as

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a whole that they've created.

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They live it.

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I've really enjoyed getting to know them really well over the last six months.

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We meet a couple of times per week about what's going on in their vision, what they want to

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do with this.

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Julienne's getting her master's degree right now.

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And Sean actually helps us with our podcast at this point as well.

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So I would definitely check out and see what they're up to because as you look at that

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today versus six months from now versus two years, five years, 10 years and beyond, the

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types of people who are going to do awesome things with this vision.

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It'll be fun to look back in 10 years on where it all began and where we get to.

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It's also fun to be the person who helps build the train track because then you get paid

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to build the train track.

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Whereas those who wait later can buy a ticket and get in line.

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So then there's the lost spot with Melissa Gray.

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Melissa Gray came on our show, did an excellent job.

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I was actually a little bit petrified to bring her on the show because she's a lawyer and

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attorney and those people tend to intimidate me.

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I found somebody who is very nurturing and caring and not only expresses the fact that

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law doesn't have to be complicated, but she's able to break it down in simple terms.

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It's very inviting.

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And so when I caught her vision of wanting to bridge the gap between the systems that

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are out there that provide you free templates, believe you with liabilities in the event

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that you need legal counsel and the super expensive legal counsel retainers that you

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see in programs like Suits.

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There's a middle ground that exists there.

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What I see so many entrepreneurs doing, and I'll throw myself in this bucket as well,

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is sometimes we don't delegate the scariest or the most pressing needs of security for

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our business because we're focused on building the vision.

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the legal matters that come into play.

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It's like, oh my gosh, stranger danger or the confused mind says no.

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There's a lot of fear baked into those realities.

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Then you end up in a situation where you have a demand letter or Apple's patented your software

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like happened with us with Restaurant Connect or somebody tried to sell our name at Restaurant

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Connect and we got in a trademark battle.

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We spent $20,000 on that trademark battle.

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I'm not saying we hired the wrong legal representation, but have we done more due diligence to find

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who could represent us and we had to be not waited until the last minute to address that.

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We probably could have won that same case on a $2,000 to $3,000 retainer or more importantly,

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received the counsel that, guys, your startup needs the revenues right now.

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Just change your name.

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That could have been an option that I wish we would have considered at that time.

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So those again are two resources that as visionaries, one regarding health, one regarding considering

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who you have on retainer right now for legal.

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I'd recommend checking those programs out if you have gaps or holes in those areas of

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Then there's the water project and the water project, I'll never miss an episode.

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I'll never do an episode where we don't talk about a cause that we support.

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The water project has dominated my attention for the last two years because it honestly

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breaks my heart that there's millions of people who don't even have access to clean drinking

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water when I have access to it everywhere that I go.

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You get to choose which one.

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And there's a very strong sense of satisfaction that comes out of knowing that you were part

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of helping these people get their basic life needs met.

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If you're not in a position to give back financially, my request is that you share this.

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Share the water project, share their links related to what they're up to.

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You never know which of your friends or your friend's friends will end up being touched

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by that and decide, you know what?

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I'd like to help this community.

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impacts as they no longer have to go search for water and then potentially consume water

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It could be a family's crowdfunding campaign for health issue.

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hesitate to drop that in the comments because we've got 8 billion people in this world to

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help and those of us with a microphone have an opportunity to do something about it.

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Again, I want to talk about how amazing some of her testimonials are.

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You can go to her brand, bonbonsstrategic.com, and I'm going to save some of you some time

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by diving into some of these case studies because seeing business owners who talk about

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the peripheral support and their vision, it's not very common.

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It's hard to say what you want to say about somebody who just does paperwork or who just

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does the stuff that you don't want to do.

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But these people, Zach from Ace Homes Contracting, HDF Law Firm, Couple Health, their testimonials

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absolutely rave about what it is that Kate did for them.

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And in addition to that, the stories that she's written out as she showcases the processes

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of payroll, insurance, IT, HR, finding the right people, putting the right systems into

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place, and this company having the best months it's ever had when working with her in 40

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years and giving her credit that she drove that.

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Property management, this person had 10 Airbnbs they're trying to manage.

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Kate, my best friend, Spencer Hamilton, he might be interested in working with you.

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He's got about the same amount.

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Great guy and great at managing businesses he might be set, but he took this company

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from 10 Airbnbs to over 60 and eliminated the stress and processes and from $100,000

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to a million dollars.

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And then reading about this distillery or this beverage, this alcoholic beverage company

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and what you did with them to help them systematize their paperwork, managing third party logistics,

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suppliers, distributors, engaging with their sales teams to help support those.

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The amount of tasks and activities that get overlooked by visionaries that we often take

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for granted and don't realize go into building our visions that you've tackled for these

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brands is just beyond inspiring.

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And so I'm excited to hear about your vision and welcome to Vision Pros Live, way to build

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an amazing career.

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Thank you.

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I really appreciate that, Jackson.

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Absolutely.

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So, Kate, if you want to, I want to feel free to redefine for the audience too.

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What is it that you do?

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And how is it that you help businesses?

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And then we'll dive into your vision for those that you serve right after that.

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Okay, sure.

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So I generally work with service-based small businesses that are still founder led, who

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have either hit a growth ceiling where their current systems and processes and team aren't

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enough for them to keep scaling or the founder themselves still has too many things on their

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plate like they're still wearing too many hats.

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They have their hands in too many pies.

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So I like to come in and help them clean up that plate and get rid of stuff because a

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lot of times they're doing things they don't really need to be doing, but they might have

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a control or trust issues that they need to work through in order to let go of things

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and delegate them to someone else.

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Or maybe they don't have that person there yet.

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Maybe they need someone to build up that trust and that relationship so that they feel comfortable

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offloading those things.

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So that's really where our focus is, is working one-to-one with the founder or CEO to streamline

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their operations from a back office perspective.

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So looking at their systems, processes, people, kind of just the holistic view of the whole

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business as a whole.

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It's like a body.

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It's like what you talked about earlier about doctors who give pills instead of looking

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at the symptoms or trying to put a band-aid on something without getting to the core issue.

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So we really go deep into those different levels and aspects of their business to understand

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what's actually working and what's not, what their priorities are right now.

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Are they scaling?

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Are they trying to get a better bottom line?

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And then kind of directing all of our projects and effort in that direction.

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I love that.

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And you're one of the few people, I would say, that really represents well the fractional

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space.

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And the same thing applies to coaches.

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The same thing can apply to musicians as well.

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I'm not trying to say that people who can't play their instrument well shouldn't be playing

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an instrument.

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There's a learning process and a growth curve.

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However, I can't just put the term doctor in front of my name and not go to jail or

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have a repercussion of making a claim of authority that I don't actually have.

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The same is not true of fractionals.

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There's a lot of fractionals that are fracturing companies by saying, oh, you know what?

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It sounds nice.

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I'll be an FCO, but they've never been a COO in their life.

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They don't know anything about being a chief.

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They're typically a yes man who thought that title looks nice and I'll be able to get cheap,

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easy clients and have more balance in my life.

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But anyway, what I want to highlight for those visionaries out there, Kate again represents

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the type of fractional that knows what she's doing.

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And if you didn't hear it and the pain points that she just talked about, the realities

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of what business owners are dealing with, then maybe go back and listen to that part

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again.

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And hear for yourself, like, okay, there's things that people say that help us realize

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whether they're an expert at what they do or whether they're just kind of wishy washy.

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Like, oh yeah, I could take over some paperwork.

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And that's the depth that I hear every time you talk to me, Kate, about what's going on

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behind the scenes with operations.

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I'm like, dude, she's in the trenches all the time.

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So what's your vision for those that you serve?

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What does that outcome look like and feel like once they've got that person?

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Sure.

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So what I really focus on is relief, like getting them relief from the burden of running

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their business by themselves.

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A lot of people don't have that right hand man or someone in place that they trust enough

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and who understands their business and like their why their passion of why they started

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the business and what they're trying to do.

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And that's something that we really get into.

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Like when I work with a new client, I'm asking them 100 questions and getting to know their

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business almost as well as they do.

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So it's like, how can we realign their goals and priorities and their daily tasks with

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that mission that they have and their vision for their business?

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Because most of the time, people don't start a business to run the business.

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You start a business because you want to serve people, you want to help people do something,

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you want to sell a product that you think is great.

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Running the business is not your first priority, but when you start a business, it becomes

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your first priority because there's nobody else to do it.

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So it's like being the person that they can offload all of those things to and like feel

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good about letting it go.

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Like it's a de-stress.

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It's like going from all of this tension and pressure and overwhelm to release.

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You can let go now.

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You're not the only one who's making decisions or problem solving or troubleshooting.

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You don't have to carry it all by yourself.

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So that's definitely my goal for my clients.

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It's helping them feel like things are better now when I'm around.

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I love that.

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I love that relief.

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When you've defined the outcome as a feeling that's distinct and that can resonate, it

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makes it easy to know too.

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Am I achieving what I need to achieve with the person that I've decided to work with

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on this project?

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It's an emotion that entrepreneurs with lots of experience can gravitate towards and say

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like, oh, that'd be nice.

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That would be good to feel.

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I'll juxtaposition the reality that you described with the nightmare that I experienced, partially

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my own fault in hiring and also a little bit of an insubordination reality.

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Not to an extreme of I lost control of my company, but two years ago I hired somebody

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to help me as an executive assistant.

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And I had very specific ways I wanted my email inbox managed.

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I came back in a couple of days later and they had overhauled my entire label system

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for my emails according to what they wanted to do without asking my permission to do that.

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I didn't react.

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I did my best to keep my cool about it and I tried to learn.

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I had to spend several hours trying to make room for that.

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I could have just fired, bam, boom, done.

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Maybe that would have been the right call.

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But no.

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At the end of the day, the system wasn't better and it didn't make more sense.

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We needed to move it all back to the way that it was.

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That wasn't my first rodeo in going to that experience of seeking relief, finding somebody

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who fit the bill in terms of even attitude and the way they worked with us and how kind

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they were, et cetera, and diligent.

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But there was this, again, this sense of ordination, this unwillingness to be flexible in terms

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of what we needed versus what they did that created a bit of a catastrophe.

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How do you avoid scenarios like that with an entrepreneur that is fairly micromanaged

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driven or OCD in how they do things?

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What does that look like?

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How do you create space for somebody like that?

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Or do you not work with people as difficult as I am?

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No, I focus on communication.

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If you're really picky about how you like things or you just have preferences and standards,

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it's your business.

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You're allowed to do that.

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It's really just asking you the right questions and making sure I fully understand what you're

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trying to do.

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If you already have a system in place and you just need someone to help you implement

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that, then that's what we'll do.

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If you don't have a system in place and you want to find out what the best system is,

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you want to do some research, you want to try something on, we're going to do that.

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We meet you where you're at to get you where you want to go.

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It's not about me and what I like and what I want to use.

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If you need a project management tool and you hate a sauna, then we're not going to

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use a sauna.

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It's like I have ideas about things and I have potential solutions in my back pocket,

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but the things that we actually do for you and implement on your behalf are customized

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and unique to your business problems and your personality and your personal strengths.

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I think that is kind of what sets me apart from other fractional COOs who come out of

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corporate or have an MBA or something.

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I don't know the rules, so I don't follow the rules.

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We can do whatever we want.

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We can do what's best for you and what works for you and figure it out.

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It's more of a ground up approach.

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I use a silly but practical analogy on that.

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Let's say for project management, I want you to write everything down, pen and paper, and

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fax it to me and to my team members, but you know that you've got the solution that's 100

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times better.

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In that scenario, do you conform to the fax scenario or how do you go about presenting

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your idea so that the person might move from the Stone Ages into a more productive 2024?

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Actually, one of my clients is kind of like that.

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He is very set in his ways and will sometimes propose things like, I don't know, using a

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Google Sheet to track projects, tasks and workload for different people.

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We already have a project management solution in place.

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I'm like, no, everybody, we're not going to do that.

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Here's what we're going to do.

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For him, at least, technology is the limiting factor.

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In that case, it's like, what does he need to feel comfortable using the technology we

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already have in place?

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For him, he doesn't want to touch it.

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We have his executive assistant go in there on his behalf, update everything in the project

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management software so that everyone else can see it, and then she communicates back

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to him to keep him updated as far as where people are at with certain tasks or projects.

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It's like figuring out what his limitations are, what his mental block is about whatever

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it is we're trying to do, and then finding a way to address that that is more efficient

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than the Stone Age way that he wants to do it and also kind of bridges the gap to the

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way that everyone else is doing it on the team.

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I love that.

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That's a great example and implementation.

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It reminds me of Dan Martell of SaaS Academy, a phenomenal coach, great in terms of guiding

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entrepreneurs that are building software programs.

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He talked about how he takes a lot of his meetings during... He works out while he

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takes his meetings and getting to that level of efficiency where he can do that productively

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for his clients.

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He's got a phenomenal track record, too, of client retention and success stories.

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I don't recommend that coaches who don't have a lot of experience begin with that model

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of multitasking to that level.

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However, when you've drilled down your system so well to where you know how to talk about

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them clearly in order to articulate what's needed, then it becomes possible to start

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doing things like that and becomes important to start delegating the management of systems

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to people that can oversee that where you then get that higher level insight into what's

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going on and the communication then serves as a relief.

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So well said.

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Let's see about your vision for you, Kate.

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What do you see for yourself in the future?

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My vision for myself is... Well, since I started this business, I initially started

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like, okay, I need to go back to work, but I don't really want to go back to a nine to

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five and have to actually go to work every day.

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I wanted the flexibility and autonomy and freedom to be able to pursue other passions

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and spend time with my son.

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I have an eight-year-old and I'm co-parenting, so I'm not with him every day.

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So the times that I am with him... Kids get out of school so early.

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I don't want to have to work until five when my kid gets out at three.

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I want to be able to take off the morning and go do an event at his school or whatever.

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I want to be there for him and I want him to feel like I'm actively participating in

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his life.

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I'm not just parenting him when he's home and then only when it's convenient do we spend

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time together.

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I want him to feel like a priority and having my own business and making my own schedule

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has really allowed me to do that for the past couple of years.

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I think it's been really valuable, especially coming out of COVID and getting divorced and

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dealing with that whole thing.

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I've been able to be there for him in an emotionally supportive way that I don't think I would

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have been able to do if I had a regular nine to five job.

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You made me cry.

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The way you're trying to mom, the way you're going about it, that's what my mom did.

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I love that for you.

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That's what I do too, 100%.

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Best woman on earth.

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00:29:18,060 --> 00:29:22,940
My mom, a single mom of six, and I was the only child between... Her first husband died

464
00:29:22,940 --> 00:29:23,940
in a plane crash.

465
00:29:23,940 --> 00:29:24,940
They had five girls.

466
00:29:24,940 --> 00:29:26,500
She met my dad at four.

467
00:29:26,500 --> 00:29:29,900
When I was four, they got divorced.

468
00:29:29,900 --> 00:29:34,360
She probably should have done that long before that.

469
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:38,780
Even though she ran her little store, she had a little gas station that she ran and

470
00:29:38,780 --> 00:29:39,780
she had to work.

471
00:29:39,780 --> 00:29:44,380
When we had to go to Sam's Club at five in the morning to wait in line, we were there

472
00:29:44,380 --> 00:29:50,380
at the work until 10 PM at night, closing up shop, then driving home.

473
00:29:50,380 --> 00:29:54,580
We lived about 30 minutes from where this location was.

474
00:29:54,580 --> 00:29:55,580
Then we started the next day.

475
00:29:55,580 --> 00:29:59,860
But somehow, she was at all my sporting... I played basketball.

476
00:29:59,860 --> 00:30:00,860
I played football.

477
00:30:00,860 --> 00:30:02,860
I played baseball.

478
00:30:02,860 --> 00:30:05,060
She taught me how to play the piano.

479
00:30:05,060 --> 00:30:06,460
I played soccer as well.

480
00:30:06,460 --> 00:30:08,660
I played all the sports you could imagine.

481
00:30:08,660 --> 00:30:09,660
She was at every game.

482
00:30:09,660 --> 00:30:11,560
She was at every practice.

483
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,160
She was at every event.

484
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:17,660
She taught me the teenage guide to motley fools, teenage guide to investment at eight

485
00:30:17,660 --> 00:30:19,660
years old.

486
00:30:19,660 --> 00:30:24,660
She made sure that I was set up as much as possible.

487
00:30:24,660 --> 00:30:26,380
I was there with her.

488
00:30:26,380 --> 00:30:32,500
I can't tell you how many employees that she knew that were stealing from her from cash

489
00:30:32,500 --> 00:30:36,780
register, but she wanted to be with her son.

490
00:30:36,780 --> 00:30:42,580
She wanted to be with her family.

491
00:30:42,580 --> 00:30:47,220
That is not a common occurrence in today's world.

492
00:30:47,220 --> 00:30:52,940
The movie Storks talks about the opposite of that, of being realtor first, parent second,

493
00:30:52,940 --> 00:30:56,500
and your child constantly being put on hold.

494
00:30:56,500 --> 00:31:01,180
I love and want to honor your vision to the max.

495
00:31:01,180 --> 00:31:08,180
I just hope you get the chance and the opportunity to stay true to that because your son, his

496
00:31:08,180 --> 00:31:13,980
life will change forever because of what you've been willing to do for him.

497
00:31:13,980 --> 00:31:15,980
Thank you.

498
00:31:15,980 --> 00:31:18,020
Absolutely.

499
00:31:18,020 --> 00:31:21,980
Moving into a darker subject though.

500
00:31:21,980 --> 00:31:26,300
What's the worst leadership experience that you've ever had?

501
00:31:26,300 --> 00:31:33,060
Is this the worst thing I've done as a leader or the worst thing I've experienced from someone

502
00:31:33,060 --> 00:31:34,660
else leading?

503
00:31:34,660 --> 00:31:35,660
Your call.

504
00:31:35,660 --> 00:31:39,580
It's not a trap either, by the way.

505
00:31:39,580 --> 00:31:40,580
We learned from all of them.

506
00:31:40,580 --> 00:31:43,540
Sometimes it can be a movie that you saw and you're like, man, it's that one, or you can

507
00:31:43,540 --> 00:31:46,220
just call Hitler out and we can be done.

508
00:31:46,220 --> 00:31:51,380
There's lots of bad leadership experiences out there.

509
00:31:51,380 --> 00:31:52,380
That is true.

510
00:31:52,380 --> 00:31:55,820
Okay, I'm going to go with a personal one, I guess.

511
00:31:55,820 --> 00:32:02,260
I had one past client who was a huge learning experience for me and not a personality type

512
00:32:02,260 --> 00:32:04,300
that I was really used to working with.

513
00:32:04,300 --> 00:32:09,140
Most of my clients are pretty chill and they might be particular, but they're not high

514
00:32:09,140 --> 00:32:11,820
strong or energetic.

515
00:32:11,820 --> 00:32:15,460
I don't know, whatever.

516
00:32:15,460 --> 00:32:22,860
I was working with this client on an initial engagement and he hired me as a fractional

517
00:32:22,860 --> 00:32:30,140
COO, but we were doing a lot of implementation.

518
00:32:30,140 --> 00:32:35,380
I lost control of the reins because he had such a strong personality.

519
00:32:35,380 --> 00:32:45,940
I was not good at maintaining my boundaries and asserting my position in the role that

520
00:32:45,940 --> 00:32:48,860
he hired me for.

521
00:32:48,860 --> 00:32:55,820
I got steamrolled a couple of times and it ended up just not being a good experience.

522
00:32:55,820 --> 00:33:04,380
From going through that, I learned about myself, where I tend to concede maybe when I shouldn't.

523
00:33:04,380 --> 00:33:13,300
I learned where I could stand to be a little more communicative and assertive when I'm working

524
00:33:13,300 --> 00:33:16,700
with clients because they did hire me for a reason.

525
00:33:16,700 --> 00:33:20,660
It's not to keep doing things the way they've been doing or do things that they always do.

526
00:33:20,660 --> 00:33:26,300
It's to do things differently because what they were doing up to this point wasn't working.

527
00:33:26,300 --> 00:33:31,940
It's like remembering that I have to remind them of that, some of them more often than

528
00:33:31,940 --> 00:33:32,940
others.

529
00:33:32,940 --> 00:33:37,980
I want to remind them why they hired me and what their goals are for this engagement and

530
00:33:37,980 --> 00:33:46,820
not let their energy run away with mine.

531
00:33:46,820 --> 00:33:49,060
I think it's a great example.

532
00:33:49,060 --> 00:33:54,820
One of the things that I love about your example is that you recognize your own ownership of

533
00:33:54,820 --> 00:33:59,500
opportunity to grow in that situation where you talk about these boundaries and then recognizing

534
00:33:59,500 --> 00:34:06,900
too that you conceded certain things, which continues to give you the power over the opportunity

535
00:34:06,900 --> 00:34:10,980
to change and improve that reality versus just calling this guy out and saying, he was

536
00:34:10,980 --> 00:34:11,980
evil.

537
00:34:11,980 --> 00:34:12,980
He was awful.

538
00:34:12,980 --> 00:34:16,700
It was all his fault.

539
00:34:16,700 --> 00:34:19,140
That's something that as visionaries that we can look for.

540
00:34:19,140 --> 00:34:25,440
It also reminds me of the relationship of the most... I read in a Reader's Digest in

541
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:35,100
middle school or high school about the number one turnover position for coaches in sports.

542
00:34:35,100 --> 00:34:41,060
They said it's the golf caddy, the person who carries the golf clubs for the professional

543
00:34:41,060 --> 00:34:42,600
golfer.

544
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:46,820
They are very much the support, the coach, the one who helps them decide which clubs

545
00:34:46,820 --> 00:34:47,820
they're going to use.

546
00:34:47,820 --> 00:34:50,420
They're great golfers themselves.

547
00:34:50,420 --> 00:34:58,780
Due to one, the financial constraints that exist in golf and two, the reality that there's

548
00:34:58,780 --> 00:35:01,700
so many ways you can mess things up in that sport.

549
00:35:01,700 --> 00:35:09,460
If you're off by a centimeter, you can lose hundreds of thousands of dollars.

550
00:35:09,460 --> 00:35:17,260
There's a very intense relationship between caddies and their golfer that they work for.

551
00:35:17,260 --> 00:35:20,980
Obviously there's a high turnover in those scenarios.

552
00:35:20,980 --> 00:35:23,740
Some people love and thrive on that.

553
00:35:23,740 --> 00:35:29,020
Some people like me, I'm like, no, man, I'm not going to be a caddy.

554
00:35:29,020 --> 00:35:32,940
I don't want to be in a high strung relationship at all times.

555
00:35:32,940 --> 00:35:40,860
I'm high strung enough myself to combine with certain types of personalities.

556
00:35:40,860 --> 00:35:45,420
What's your best leadership experience look like?

557
00:35:45,420 --> 00:35:47,420
You have some great stories behind your brand.

558
00:35:47,420 --> 00:35:52,260
It seems like you got some good ones to choose from.

559
00:35:52,260 --> 00:36:00,340
Those three that I shared on my website are probably my best ones.

560
00:36:00,340 --> 00:36:05,340
All three of those clients are very hands off.

561
00:36:05,340 --> 00:36:07,420
They're very trusting.

562
00:36:07,420 --> 00:36:09,340
We got to know each other at a personal level.

563
00:36:09,340 --> 00:36:18,980
It's not like an employee relationship, it's more like a peer level relationship.

564
00:36:18,980 --> 00:36:29,500
They trust me to help them make decisions or to problem solve things on their behalf.

565
00:36:29,500 --> 00:36:35,500
Particularly Howard, I love working with Howard.

566
00:36:35,500 --> 00:36:38,780
He's one of my favorite clients.

567
00:36:38,780 --> 00:36:48,700
Basically starting to work with him, I think in December of last year, we've made a lot

568
00:36:48,700 --> 00:36:52,620
of progress with him and hired a bunch of people.

569
00:36:52,620 --> 00:36:57,140
Just seeing the evolution of his business since I started working with him has been

570
00:36:57,140 --> 00:37:03,700
really fun and cool to see how it evolves.

571
00:37:03,700 --> 00:37:10,020
Getting him from the point where it was just basically him doing all of the business stuff

572
00:37:10,020 --> 00:37:14,220
and then he had some associates doing the client facing work, but getting him to the

573
00:37:14,220 --> 00:37:20,100
point where he is now where he's got an executive assistant and he has more associates and they've

574
00:37:20,100 --> 00:37:22,460
gotten more clients.

575
00:37:22,460 --> 00:37:29,860
Just talking him through to that point has been really helpful for me too, just from

576
00:37:29,860 --> 00:37:32,460
a leadership perspective.

577
00:37:32,460 --> 00:37:39,420
I never would have considered myself a leader, but I know that when I'm working one to one

578
00:37:39,420 --> 00:37:46,100
with my clients, I am leading them whether I want to call it that or not.

579
00:37:46,100 --> 00:37:51,860
Being the person that they turn to when shit hits the fan and they've got a client meeting

580
00:37:51,860 --> 00:37:56,380
in 30 minutes and they don't have time to deal with it.

581
00:37:56,380 --> 00:38:02,900
Just being that level of support for other people and helping them get to their goals

582
00:38:02,900 --> 00:38:07,300
faster and easier, it's so good.

583
00:38:07,300 --> 00:38:14,100
Not only is it success in my business, but helping them achieve success in their business,

584
00:38:14,100 --> 00:38:16,500
it's like double dopamine.

585
00:38:16,500 --> 00:38:20,220
I'm getting it both ways.

586
00:38:20,220 --> 00:38:24,180
I love what I do and I love most of my clients.

587
00:38:24,180 --> 00:38:25,180
I love all of my clients.

588
00:38:25,180 --> 00:38:27,780
That's awesome.

589
00:38:27,780 --> 00:38:28,780
You know what?

590
00:38:28,780 --> 00:38:33,380
I came to realization because I was an awful leader for a long time.

591
00:38:33,380 --> 00:38:37,500
I had really, really bad tendencies as a leader.

592
00:38:37,500 --> 00:38:43,140
Whether it was taking people's work for granted, not the people, but the work or just not knowing

593
00:38:43,140 --> 00:38:50,060
how to communicate my feelings or what I wanted to see or my strategies, I came to realization

594
00:38:50,060 --> 00:38:56,380
that the best leaders are often the best followers as well.

595
00:38:56,380 --> 00:38:58,140
That's what I hear when you're talking about this.

596
00:38:58,140 --> 00:39:03,340
I think of some of the war stories I've seen where, yes, the commander that the movie's

597
00:39:03,340 --> 00:39:06,900
about is important.

598
00:39:06,900 --> 00:39:13,780
There's usually one or two wingmen that are not leaders by title, but had they not jumped

599
00:39:13,780 --> 00:39:19,900
in and been there to follow, nobody else would have without that person there.

600
00:39:19,900 --> 00:39:23,660
This particular testimonial really stood out to me.

601
00:39:23,660 --> 00:39:25,860
You said last December, but you meant 2022, correct?

602
00:39:25,860 --> 00:39:27,900
It's been 13 months?

603
00:39:27,900 --> 00:39:31,020
Or did you start working with him a month ago?

604
00:39:31,020 --> 00:39:32,020
No, 2022.

605
00:39:32,020 --> 00:39:33,020
What is time?

606
00:39:33,020 --> 00:39:34,020
What is time?

607
00:39:34,020 --> 00:39:35,020
What is time?

608
00:39:35,020 --> 00:39:36,020
I'll be on that.

609
00:39:36,020 --> 00:39:40,460
I just want to make sure I add that story right.

610
00:39:40,460 --> 00:39:44,660
What he says here is what struck me the most about this is your delight to work with and

611
00:39:44,660 --> 00:39:49,060
my staff attorneys feel completely comfortable working with her.

612
00:39:49,060 --> 00:39:50,700
I'm like, whoa.

613
00:39:50,700 --> 00:39:57,340
Again, back to the attorney reality, it's not easy to impress an attorney.

614
00:39:57,340 --> 00:40:00,400
They're so busy and they've got a lot of things going on.

615
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:07,940
They're not always the easiest people to work with and always the most conformative because

616
00:40:07,940 --> 00:40:10,260
their role, their job in life is to argue.

617
00:40:10,260 --> 00:40:15,340
It's a stand up for their beliefs and get what they want done.

618
00:40:15,340 --> 00:40:18,340
Again, it really inspired me.

619
00:40:18,340 --> 00:40:25,420
I'm like, man, that's some crazy good delivery skills and probably some diplomacy mixed in

620
00:40:25,420 --> 00:40:26,420
there as well.

621
00:40:26,420 --> 00:40:32,460
Howard definitely initially getting him on board.

622
00:40:32,460 --> 00:40:41,380
He was not interested because he didn't feel like he was ready to get that kind of support.

623
00:40:41,380 --> 00:40:45,260
I pushed him back because at that point he's already said, no, I don't have anything to

624
00:40:45,260 --> 00:40:48,260
lose.

625
00:40:48,260 --> 00:40:51,260
He's been in the conversation and being like, okay, well, what makes you think you're not

626
00:40:51,260 --> 00:40:55,780
ready for this kind of engagement?

627
00:40:55,780 --> 00:41:01,060
I think he had not worked like his whole team is remote, but he had never had this level

628
00:41:01,060 --> 00:41:05,220
of support in his business before, even though he's been in business for like 40 years, which

629
00:41:05,220 --> 00:41:07,020
is incredible to me.

630
00:41:07,020 --> 00:41:10,140
Anyway, so he was skeptical.

631
00:41:10,140 --> 00:41:14,860
He was skeptical and I think he had gotten burned by other service providers in different

632
00:41:14,860 --> 00:41:17,420
situations.

633
00:41:17,420 --> 00:41:24,540
That makes it even better when I did start working with him and overcoming that level

634
00:41:24,540 --> 00:41:32,740
of skepticism just made it even stronger, made our relationship even stronger and made

635
00:41:32,740 --> 00:41:37,780
the successes that he's seen working with me even better.

636
00:41:37,780 --> 00:41:40,180
Absolutely.

637
00:41:40,180 --> 00:41:41,620
Sometimes there are hurdles.

638
00:41:41,620 --> 00:41:45,300
As entrepreneurs, most of us are alpha driven.

639
00:41:45,300 --> 00:41:47,660
We're self-assured individuals too.

640
00:41:47,660 --> 00:41:50,700
That's one of my top five strengths is I'm a futurist.

641
00:41:50,700 --> 00:41:54,740
I'm a learner who's a futurist, who's strategic, who's also self-assured.

642
00:41:54,740 --> 00:42:01,300
It's like, whoa, how much more confident or arrogant can one get?

643
00:42:01,300 --> 00:42:08,980
Again, there's a double-edged sword on that, but we need people in our lives who are able

644
00:42:08,980 --> 00:42:11,660
to pull the E-brake.

645
00:42:11,660 --> 00:42:18,620
Even if we smack the hand or whatever, so to speak, metaphorically, we're flying here.

646
00:42:18,620 --> 00:42:23,260
That's what we as providers also have to do, myself being an integrator as well.

647
00:42:23,260 --> 00:42:27,780
No, I tell business owners, yeah, I can fly your rocket ship faster than most, but I'm

648
00:42:27,780 --> 00:42:31,660
also an E-brake and you need that.

649
00:42:31,660 --> 00:42:36,100
You're going to need times where in order not hit that star on the way to the Mars or

650
00:42:36,100 --> 00:42:42,060
whatever you're doing, you need to learn how to control your power.

651
00:42:42,060 --> 00:42:46,620
That's cool that you push back with them on that.

652
00:42:46,620 --> 00:42:49,940
Let's say this was the last opportunity that you had to share a lesson with anybody on

653
00:42:49,940 --> 00:42:53,180
Earth, rather with visionaries.

654
00:42:53,180 --> 00:43:00,420
What would the powerful lesson be that they can learn from your experience?

655
00:43:00,420 --> 00:43:10,500
I would say the most powerful lesson that I could share would be to intentionally cultivate

656
00:43:10,500 --> 00:43:18,860
what you want your life to look like, and that includes your business.

657
00:43:18,860 --> 00:43:23,180
It's so easy for us to get lost in the weeds when you're in a startup phase or a growth

658
00:43:23,180 --> 00:43:29,880
phase and doing the same thing for myself that I do for my clients, remembering why

659
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:38,820
I'm doing this, helps me to stay aligned to my ultimate goal and to my vision for myself.

660
00:43:38,820 --> 00:43:51,020
I would say that having people in your community that you can bounce ideas off of and who understand

661
00:43:51,020 --> 00:43:56,420
what you're trying to do with your life, that can be useful to help you redirect to when

662
00:43:56,420 --> 00:44:01,120
you can't see the forest for the trees.

663
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:05,620
Having someone there, like a close friend or a mentor or your therapist, who cares who

664
00:44:05,620 --> 00:44:09,500
it is, but having someone there who's going to be honest with you and remind you of why

665
00:44:09,500 --> 00:44:14,500
you're doing what you're doing so that you don't spend all of your time in daily operations

666
00:44:14,500 --> 00:44:19,300
and your family tells you you work too much and you don't have any work-life balance and

667
00:44:19,300 --> 00:44:28,180
you have freedom, but you're not really free, you're just in another, not a nine to five,

668
00:44:28,180 --> 00:44:37,620
but you went from one restrictive career-oriented position to one that you created for yourself.

669
00:44:37,620 --> 00:44:44,380
You don't have to be in that cage anymore and you're allowed to change the way you do

670
00:44:44,380 --> 00:44:51,740
things when you gain new perspective or learn new information.

671
00:44:51,740 --> 00:44:53,300
I like that.

672
00:44:53,300 --> 00:45:00,700
Intentionally cultivating requires a degree of self-awareness and world awareness as well.

673
00:45:00,700 --> 00:45:05,780
Some people would say, like, let's say that I'm 100 pounds overweight and my thought process

674
00:45:05,780 --> 00:45:10,300
tells me, well, working out is hard.

675
00:45:10,300 --> 00:45:16,460
True, but isn't being 100 pounds overweight hard too?

676
00:45:16,460 --> 00:45:19,740
You're not going to escape what's hard.

677
00:45:19,740 --> 00:45:22,740
You're just choosing one hard over another.

678
00:45:22,740 --> 00:45:28,420
That's what I hear you talking about in terms of entrepreneurship.

679
00:45:28,420 --> 00:45:34,100
You've got a different stat on your website that talks about 67% of businesses failing

680
00:45:34,100 --> 00:45:35,420
over the course of 10 years.

681
00:45:35,420 --> 00:45:37,300
It comes from a legitimate source.

682
00:45:37,300 --> 00:45:40,620
The US Business Statistics Bureau, I believe it was.

683
00:45:40,620 --> 00:45:43,540
I use a stat from Inc.

684
00:45:43,540 --> 00:45:47,340
Magazine that comes from the smb.gov.

685
00:45:47,340 --> 00:45:52,180
Another government association trying to understand where businesses fail, etc.

686
00:45:52,180 --> 00:45:55,860
96% of businesses fail within 10 years.

687
00:45:55,860 --> 00:46:02,380
Either way, I wouldn't send my child to a school with a 67% failure rate.

688
00:46:02,380 --> 00:46:04,500
It ain't happening.

689
00:46:04,500 --> 00:46:08,260
As entrepreneurs, we go to that school every day.

690
00:46:08,260 --> 00:46:14,540
We continue to follow the traditional course of how business growth goes.

691
00:46:14,540 --> 00:46:19,140
What I don't often talk about, and I haven't really looked up as well, from an equivalent

692
00:46:19,140 --> 00:46:24,180
standpoint, what's the success rate of a career?

693
00:46:24,180 --> 00:46:28,340
People could speculate, oh, well, all these people are having great careers.

694
00:46:28,340 --> 00:46:31,600
Well, again, there's too many variables to look at.

695
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,860
What about depression rates?

696
00:46:33,860 --> 00:46:36,660
What about people that are highly medicated?

697
00:46:36,660 --> 00:46:38,620
They get nothing wrong with those.

698
00:46:38,620 --> 00:46:40,980
They're all realities that exist.

699
00:46:40,980 --> 00:46:46,620
What about people who never see their kids versus... and the time that we get with our

700
00:46:46,620 --> 00:46:48,660
kids as well.

701
00:46:48,660 --> 00:46:49,660
And that compared.

702
00:46:49,660 --> 00:46:54,340
There's so many different variables that the only way we can really eye so in on what's

703
00:46:54,340 --> 00:46:59,660
right for us is if we're doing what you said, intentionally cultivating.

704
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What do I want my life to look like?

705
00:47:01,460 --> 00:47:03,740
Not what others want it to look like.

706
00:47:03,740 --> 00:47:09,020
Not what the world tells us our life should look like, but diving in, looking at our business,

707
00:47:09,020 --> 00:47:12,980
looking at our life and saying, what do I want for me?

708
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And that's what Vision Pros is all about.

709
00:47:15,540 --> 00:47:20,880
That's why we do this podcast, because I believe that everybody is their own visionary out there.

710
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:22,620
You have the vision for your life.

711
00:47:22,620 --> 00:47:23,620
It's your opportunity.

712
00:47:23,620 --> 00:47:25,500
You can call it responsibility.

713
00:47:25,500 --> 00:47:30,800
I call it opportunity to dig into your own heart, your own mind, figure out who you are,

714
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:34,660
what you want, what you're meant to accomplish, what purpose you have, et cetera.

715
00:47:34,660 --> 00:47:39,100
And we do our best to inspire people with that.

716
00:47:39,100 --> 00:47:43,260
And the greatest way that we go about trying to inspire people is bringing people like

717
00:47:43,260 --> 00:47:47,780
you on the show and saying, here's somebody who's got a great vision for their life, hopefully

718
00:47:47,780 --> 00:47:50,020
it inspires others to find their own vision.

719
00:47:50,020 --> 00:47:53,660
So Kate, what else would you like to share?

720
00:47:53,660 --> 00:47:55,500
I'd like to take just a couple extra minutes.

721
00:47:55,500 --> 00:48:00,460
Is there any other topic you want to dive into related to what you do or your vision?

722
00:48:00,460 --> 00:48:10,540
Well, in the spirit of helping people, I just finished an ebook that uses all the questions

723
00:48:10,540 --> 00:48:15,260
that I ask my clients whenever I'm doing an initial business assessment.

724
00:48:15,260 --> 00:48:18,540
And I'm in the process of getting out of my website right now.

725
00:48:18,540 --> 00:48:24,260
It's called 50 Questions to...

726
00:48:24,260 --> 00:48:25,260
What did I call it?

727
00:48:25,260 --> 00:48:26,260
Gosh, no, I can't.

728
00:48:26,260 --> 00:48:27,260
I'm having a really hard time.

729
00:48:27,260 --> 00:48:32,140
I like where it's going though, because 50 questions, that's what will lead you to that

730
00:48:32,140 --> 00:48:33,140
highly intentional...

731
00:48:33,140 --> 00:48:34,140
Yes, yes.

732
00:48:34,140 --> 00:48:40,500
It's like looking at all these different aspects of your business and asking yourself those

733
00:48:40,500 --> 00:48:41,500
hard questions.

734
00:48:41,500 --> 00:48:49,220
Because sometimes it's really easy to focus on the easy stuff or the simple things, but

735
00:48:49,220 --> 00:48:53,300
we have to remember to look back at the complex ones too.

736
00:48:53,300 --> 00:48:56,500
It's not just what do you want your annual revenue to be?

737
00:48:56,500 --> 00:48:59,620
It's like, what do you want your work life balance to be?

738
00:48:59,620 --> 00:49:03,420
What do you want your business days to look like?

739
00:49:03,420 --> 00:49:05,100
Do you want to work nine to five?

740
00:49:05,100 --> 00:49:09,000
Do you want to be on meetings all the time or do you hate Zoom?

741
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:10,000
It's just...

742
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:11,000
I love Zoom by the way.

743
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:12,000
I just had to say it.

744
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:13,000
I love Zoom.

745
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:18,220
I love meeting with my virtual friends.

746
00:49:18,220 --> 00:49:20,700
That's one of my favorite things to do.

747
00:49:20,700 --> 00:49:23,380
I would definitely rather meet on Zoom than in person.

748
00:49:23,380 --> 00:49:30,020
Well, some of it has to do with the quality of my neighbors too.

749
00:49:30,020 --> 00:49:34,820
I've tried and they just don't get entrepreneurship and the things I do.

750
00:49:34,820 --> 00:49:39,580
Yes, my best friends typically are living in different places.

751
00:49:39,580 --> 00:49:40,580
So Zoom is where I go.

752
00:49:40,580 --> 00:49:43,580
Mine too, for the most part.

753
00:49:43,580 --> 00:49:44,580
Absolutely.

754
00:49:44,580 --> 00:49:45,580
Well said.

755
00:49:45,580 --> 00:49:46,580
Sorry to interrupt you.

756
00:49:46,580 --> 00:49:48,860
You got these great questions that people can go through on this e-book.

757
00:49:48,860 --> 00:49:52,500
We'll make sure to include that then on the landing page.

758
00:49:52,500 --> 00:49:55,340
That way people can access it.

759
00:49:55,340 --> 00:50:01,340
Whether you're an expert at self-analysis and finding questions and journaling or you're

760
00:50:01,340 --> 00:50:03,940
a beginner, I'd recommend...

761
00:50:03,940 --> 00:50:07,300
One of the things that I do in these opportunities, I like to take those, download them and then

762
00:50:07,300 --> 00:50:10,080
walk and read through the questions.

763
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:14,660
Even if I don't end up taking the time to journal, which I often do as well.

764
00:50:14,660 --> 00:50:17,300
I'm a big fan of journaling.

765
00:50:17,300 --> 00:50:21,460
But even if I don't take the time, it's amazing the effect that it can have when you've just

766
00:50:21,460 --> 00:50:25,780
kind of read the question itself and your brain and your heart just starts to play with

767
00:50:25,780 --> 00:50:27,940
it more than you even realize.

768
00:50:27,940 --> 00:50:31,820
And next thing you know, you're implementing things that are helpful for success.

769
00:50:31,820 --> 00:50:32,820
I miss...

770
00:50:32,820 --> 00:50:35,820
I'm sure you're going to get to that critical thinking mode.

771
00:50:35,820 --> 00:50:37,900
Yes, absolutely.

772
00:50:37,900 --> 00:50:40,340
Critical thinking is super helpful.

773
00:50:40,340 --> 00:50:41,340
And I said smb.gov.

774
00:50:41,340 --> 00:50:42,340
I was wrong.

775
00:50:42,340 --> 00:50:46,220
It's sba.gov, the Small Business Association or administration.

776
00:50:46,220 --> 00:50:48,300
Oh my gosh, Small Business Administration.

777
00:50:48,300 --> 00:50:51,140
You can tell I don't spend a lot of time on government.

778
00:50:51,140 --> 00:50:54,620
Yes, let anyone imagine that sort of place in Statenville.

779
00:50:54,620 --> 00:50:56,060
Let's not recommend that.

780
00:50:56,060 --> 00:50:57,060
Yeah, no.

781
00:50:57,060 --> 00:50:59,900
No Affiliate websites, but with that said.

782
00:50:59,900 --> 00:51:02,340
Anyway, vision pros.

783
00:51:02,340 --> 00:51:07,580
I hope that you take one or two takeaways, at least, or the maximum of what you can out

784
00:51:07,580 --> 00:51:11,460
of this and take the opportunity to also connect with Kate on LinkedIn.

785
00:51:11,460 --> 00:51:14,180
I believe that's where we met.

786
00:51:14,180 --> 00:51:16,460
all visionaries do by the way.

787
00:51:16,460 --> 00:51:18,580
There's no such thing as solopreneur.

788
00:51:18,580 --> 00:51:21,240
Unless you're the very rare unicorn,

789
00:51:21,240 --> 00:51:22,360
it just doesn't happen that way,

790
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:25,020
even if they tell you that's how it happens.

791
00:51:25,020 --> 00:51:26,700
Then consider evaluating.

792
00:51:26,700 --> 00:51:27,660
Who are you gonna work with?

793
00:51:27,660 --> 00:51:28,500
Who can you bring in?

794
00:51:28,500 --> 00:51:31,880
How can you bring in that person sooner than later?

795
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:33,340
Because the moment you do,

796
00:51:33,340 --> 00:51:36,180
and you start to realize all the things

797
00:51:36,180 --> 00:51:38,140
that are blocking you from success,

798
00:51:38,140 --> 00:51:39,380
the faster you realize that,

799
00:51:39,380 --> 00:51:42,300
the faster you'll get past your failures

800
00:51:42,300 --> 00:51:44,340
so that you can get to the success path.

801
00:51:44,340 --> 00:51:48,260
And Kate is, again, after hundreds of people

802
00:51:48,260 --> 00:51:50,940
talking to thousands of potential executive assistants

803
00:51:50,940 --> 00:51:54,300
over the years, she's easily in my top five.

804
00:51:54,300 --> 00:51:57,820
And very possibly much closer to that number one slot

805
00:51:57,820 --> 00:51:59,280
that I'm willing to admit,

806
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:01,780
given that we haven't fully worked together yet.

807
00:52:01,780 --> 00:52:03,060
But you're amazing, Kate,

808
00:52:03,060 --> 00:52:04,900
and thank you for joining us on Vision Pros one.

809
00:52:04,900 --> 00:52:06,580
Thank you for having me.

810
00:52:06,580 --> 00:52:07,420
Absolutely.

811
00:52:07,420 --> 00:52:09,060
We'll see you guys on the next episode.

812
00:52:09,060 --> 00:52:10,460
Take care, everybody.

813
00:52:10,460 --> 00:52:11,820
Thank you for being here today.

814
00:52:11,820 --> 00:52:14,300
I'm really happy that you tuned in to Vision Pros Live.

815
00:52:14,300 --> 00:52:16,960
I'm looking forward to seeing your reactions

816
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:19,260
as these episodes continue to move forward.

817
00:52:19,260 --> 00:52:20,940
This is gonna get more and more fun.

818
00:52:20,940 --> 00:52:22,740
We'll have more and more engagement as well.

819
00:52:22,740 --> 00:52:24,860
We'll invite people to participate in the show.

820
00:52:24,860 --> 00:52:27,220
And thank you for giving us your time and attention.

821
00:52:27,220 --> 00:52:42,860
Have an excellent time building out your.

