1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,600 No more driving for six months while he learns. 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:03,600 That's right. 3 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:04,600 That's right. 4 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:05,600 That's awesome. 5 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:06,600 That's right. 6 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:13,120 And so as far as Flo goes and Flo states, do you guys, do you bring that into the home 7 00:00:13,120 --> 00:00:14,120 as well? 8 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:15,120 Is this something you teach your son about? 9 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:16,120 And do you have more goals than kids? 10 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:17,120 Yeah, of course. 11 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:18,720 Actually, I love to do that. 12 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:23,840 I love to do that every time, every day that I take him to drive him to school, because 13 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:26,840 I'm still driving him to school. 14 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:32,800 I get the chance to talk to him about all my crazy stuff and he likes it. 15 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:36,560 And he also likes to read a lot. 16 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:42,840 So I really enjoy taking all this Flo thing in home. 17 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:49,640 So it's a lot of lifestyle, I would say, because it involves everything in your life. 18 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:57,720 So I try to permeate it as much as possible into my family. 19 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:06,480 So I have here my, there you go, the phrase, one phrase that I love, which is called amor 20 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:07,480 fati. 21 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,400 And I'll tell you more about it in a while. 22 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:16,880 But I like it because it's like living in the moment, living the present and loving 23 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:17,920 what happens to you. 24 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:21,000 So nice, something I love. 25 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,800 It's a beautiful scene. 26 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:30,240 So one thing you may not know about me, you might know this, but did you know that I used 27 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:32,760 to work for flow research collective? 28 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:33,760 No way. 29 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:35,960 That's small world, right? 30 00:01:35,960 --> 00:01:36,960 Oh, wow. 31 00:01:36,960 --> 00:01:39,800 And you were in California or? 32 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:41,160 No, I was remote. 33 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:42,160 I was here. 34 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:43,160 Oh, wow. 35 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:44,160 That's so cool. 36 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:45,160 Okay. 37 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:51,440 So I don't have to tell you about flow. 38 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:52,440 Always learning. 39 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:54,400 No, always, always learning. 40 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,020 That's cool. 41 00:01:56,020 --> 00:01:57,560 Definitely connected to it. 42 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:03,000 You know, definitely an important aspect of my life as well as knowing how to connect 43 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:04,320 into my own flow states. 44 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:10,360 So I understand fully the value of what you're about to bring to the table for those who 45 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:11,360 are listening. 46 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:12,600 So I got to ask. 47 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:18,120 So as far as you can either go with today, the modern world, it's not just the books 48 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:19,600 that matter, right? 49 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:21,440 You got courses out there. 50 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:27,560 You got programs, conferences, events, YouTube videos. 51 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:33,800 What would be your top three personal development or growth resources that you'd recommend outside 52 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:35,080 of your own? 53 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:36,080 Okay. 54 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,480 So definitely books. 55 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:42,760 I mean, there's so much richness. 56 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:43,760 What's the book? 57 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:44,760 What's one though? 58 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:45,880 You had to name one. 59 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:47,400 What's one book? 60 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:48,400 Okay. 61 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:54,000 One that I have right here next to me is Principles by Ray Dalio. 62 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:55,480 I love that one. 63 00:02:55,480 --> 00:03:05,240 And I'm not a tattoo guy, but if I would ever get a tattoo, it would be this this spiral. 64 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:09,840 So this one. 65 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:16,640 So I don't know if you've heard of this, but so Ray Dalio came across my plate, I don't 66 00:03:16,640 --> 00:03:19,280 know, two years ago and I started like reading some stuff. 67 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:24,280 He's been, I was like, dude, this guy is rich with wisdom, but I haven't read the book before. 68 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:25,280 Okay. 69 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:26,800 It's it's dense. 70 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,920 As you can see, it's a big book. 71 00:03:29,920 --> 00:03:36,840 And the first part is kind of hard to, you know, to read and you have to reread it. 72 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,120 But the second part is amazing. 73 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:44,160 So I try to have it next to me to remind me. 74 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:50,040 And as I told you, the tattoo, if I ever get a tattoo, I'll get it that spiral. 75 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:55,640 So yeah, I love it because it's it's it's life. 76 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:57,240 I mean, it's a flow of life. 77 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:02,320 You set your goals, you fail, eventually you will fail. 78 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:03,320 That's it. 79 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:04,520 It's no matter if you will fail or not. 80 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:10,000 It's a matter of when after you fail, you diagnose what's going on. 81 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:11,480 Why did you fail? 82 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:18,440 And then you redesign your process or whatever you are trying to reach and you launch again. 83 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:19,780 And that's that's life. 84 00:04:19,780 --> 00:04:23,400 So we're always learning. 85 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:29,300 And if we're not learning, then that spiral goes like this instead of going up. 86 00:04:29,300 --> 00:04:30,760 It goes straight. 87 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:35,640 So you don't learn, but you keep failing and doing the same mistakes. 88 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:36,640 Right. 89 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:38,400 So that's what I love about principles. 90 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:39,400 Awesome. 91 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,120 There are so many other books that I love. 92 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:43,120 There's so many. 93 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:47,120 Now, I probably shouldn't ask where you would get the tattoo. 94 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:48,960 So we'll skip that for now. 95 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:49,960 All right. 96 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:53,480 Welcome in to Vision Pros Live with Jackson Calame. 97 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:54,480 I'm your show host. 98 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:59,200 We will be doing interviews for visionary entrepreneurs and guest leaders who are building 99 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,960 fantastic visions out there. 100 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:12,880 Everybody welcome in another episode of Vision Pros Live. 101 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:16,680 I'm your show host, Jackson Calame, founder and CEO of First Class Business. 102 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:22,400 I am excited to have Manuel Del Valle on our show today based out of Houston, Texas, another 103 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:23,400 Texan. 104 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:24,400 I'm excited about that, too. 105 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:30,200 Also from Mexico, representing both nations, just like my daughter, Aitana. 106 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:37,160 And so we'll be diving into flow states and how flow is a key to an amazing life. 107 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:41,600 You know, again, most of you don't know that I had a short stint working with Flow Research 108 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:45,800 Collective and the amount that I learned in that time and the amount that I appreciate, 109 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:50,640 my business, they're up to and teaching the world in terms of peak performance, productivity, 110 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:51,640 just awesome. 111 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:58,880 And so bringing Manu on as well as a leader in flow, he's a founder of flowforward.co. 112 00:05:58,880 --> 00:05:59,880 That's flowforward.co. 113 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:07,280 We'll be diving in talking about how flow is, again, that amazing key to, well, the 114 00:06:07,280 --> 00:06:08,840 key to amazing life. 115 00:06:08,840 --> 00:06:15,280 So before we dive in with Manu, I want to always give a quick shout out to the sponsors. 116 00:06:15,280 --> 00:06:19,280 These are people that I believe in tremendously, people that I work with. 117 00:06:19,280 --> 00:06:24,420 In fact, the two sponsors for today are actually both clients of first class business. 118 00:06:24,420 --> 00:06:26,400 So we do have a bit of a bias. 119 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:31,880 However, what I would like to say about that is I don't take clients on that I don't absolutely 120 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:37,500 love and desire representing because I got four children who I want to be extremely proud 121 00:06:37,500 --> 00:06:39,040 of the things that I've done in life. 122 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:44,620 So with Sean and Julianne Lechuga, they are launching this program called The Wellness 123 00:06:44,620 --> 00:06:46,280 Shop 365. 124 00:06:46,280 --> 00:06:52,080 And The Wellness Shop 365 is an integrative approach to nutrition that incorporates this 125 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:58,000 wheel of life concept that I was like, man, this is so cool to meet somebody who not only 126 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:03,720 cares about the diet and the exercise portion of being healthy, but also is keen on what 127 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:07,760 your joy look like, what your spirituality look like, your creativity, your career, your 128 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:08,760 education. 129 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:14,760 When I saw this concept, I was like, this has superpowers unlike anything I've seen 130 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:19,880 from other health practitioners and holistic health individuals. 131 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,680 And we're all in this journey to continue to improve. 132 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:26,680 But some of us have dynamic superpowers above and beyond others. 133 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:32,480 And it's our opportunity to use those relationships as mentors, if you will, for our life. 134 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,360 So I love the success of their family. 135 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:35,680 I love what they're building. 136 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:39,520 And if you get a chance to check that out and you're in the holistic wellness space, 137 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:43,680 maybe there's also a strategic partnership opportunity with them and what they're doing. 138 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:45,880 Then there's the lost spot with Melissa Gray. 139 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,140 Melissa Gray came through this actual show. 140 00:07:48,140 --> 00:07:49,340 She had an episode. 141 00:07:49,340 --> 00:07:53,480 And what really struck me about her as an attorney, which again, I was actually quite 142 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:54,480 nervous about it. 143 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:56,400 I was like, I don't want to host an attorney on my show. 144 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:57,400 Let's see how this goes. 145 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:01,600 Well, it turned out she's like the super nurturer who understands that law doesn't have to be 146 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:02,940 complicated. 147 00:08:02,940 --> 00:08:09,360 And she not only has the ability to help you understand it, but she does so from the framework 148 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,180 of helping you feel good about the process. 149 00:08:12,180 --> 00:08:20,600 And so having somebody for legal counsel on our team, as well as involved in any of the 150 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:24,240 companies that I've ever worked with, I started thinking about which of my clients in the 151 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:30,400 past and prospects that I've talked to, if I ask them, do you have legal counsel? 152 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:31,520 Somebody represents you? 153 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:37,480 I would venture to bet that less than 10% of the people that I've met with in business 154 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:42,720 had somebody on hand that they could dial up and say, yes, I do have a legal counsel 155 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:47,040 right here by my side to help protect me in the event of something going wrong or to help 156 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,280 go through a document, et cetera. 157 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:56,600 Now out of those 10% that actually have one, I bet more than 50% are overcharged and on 158 00:08:56,600 --> 00:09:00,440 a retainer that they can't possibly afford if they get into a situation where they need 159 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:01,440 it. 160 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,520 At Restaurant Connect, we got into a trademark war with somebody. 161 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:08,720 It cost us $20,000 just to try to protect our brand name. 162 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:14,880 A lot of that had to do with the fact that our legal counsel probably just wasn't the 163 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:16,880 best legal counsel, in my opinion. 164 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:20,980 We probably could have gotten somebody for far less or we probably could have made strategic 165 00:09:20,980 --> 00:09:24,080 moves to protect our budget in time we needed that most. 166 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:29,340 So visionaries, business owners out there, the goal of helping you find out about materials 167 00:09:29,340 --> 00:09:34,560 and opportunities like this is to create holistic growth for yourself and to start putting you 168 00:09:34,560 --> 00:09:38,800 in a position of being a wise steward of your ventures. 169 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:42,760 The more wise you become as a steward, the more likely you are to have dominion over 170 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:44,760 a very successful vineyard. 171 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:46,920 Now I'll step out of the analogies a little bit. 172 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:47,920 The water project. 173 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:52,840 The water project is something that I never want to forget to talk about because there's 174 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:57,000 millions of people in this world who do not have access to clean drinking water and I'm 175 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:00,400 about 10 steps away from it at all times anywhere I go. 176 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:04,200 I've never had to think about where am I going to get my next glass of water? 177 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:07,400 And so while there's millions of people who are in this position, there's also millions 178 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:12,280 of us, people who listen to podcasts like this and we're one share away from possibly 179 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:18,020 finding somebody who can make a dramatic difference on generations of individuals in this case 180 00:10:18,020 --> 00:10:19,020 in Africa. 181 00:10:19,020 --> 00:10:24,480 I love that the water project showcases their projects much like a crowdfunding opportunity 182 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:30,280 and you can see that Math in Community 3 right now is very close to fully funded and by contributing 183 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:35,200 $5 to it if you have the ability or maybe you decide to complete the project and you 184 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:39,400 decide to spend $10,000 on this, I don't know what you'll do, but I know that they will 185 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:43,740 update you with what's going on with that project, how it's progressing. 186 00:10:43,740 --> 00:10:49,200 You get to see the fulfillment of that project come to life and again, just imagine these 187 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:52,920 kids that are missing school right now to go get water on occasion or their parents 188 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:56,800 who have to abandon work in order to go get water for their families. 189 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:01,560 Imagine the impact that has in their life 10 years, 15, 20 years down the road as they 190 00:11:01,560 --> 00:11:05,720 have stability with the core resource that they need most in life and you and I have 191 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:07,480 the opportunity to again share that. 192 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:12,280 Now if you have a cause that you'd like to see us support or talk about on this show, 193 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:14,640 don't hesitate to drop that in the comments. 194 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:16,800 We're always checking the comments to see what's there. 195 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:21,040 We might even bring your cause onto the show and talk about it and again, who knows who 196 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:25,040 we'll reach that might decide that this is the type of project that they want to give 197 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:26,040 back to and help with. 198 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:32,160 So without further ado, Manu Devalle, founder of Flow4.co. 199 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:33,840 Welcome to Vision Pros Live, man. 200 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,560 Hey Jackson, thank you for having me on your show. 201 00:11:36,560 --> 00:11:42,600 I'm really honored to be here and talk to you about all this and congratulations on 202 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:45,440 that because it's amazing. 203 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:50,400 Now that I heard you talking about the water project, it's wow, amazing what you're doing 204 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:51,720 here. 205 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:52,720 Thank you, man. 206 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:53,720 I appreciate that. 207 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:58,520 Man, I'm sure you're working on some amazing causes yourself on your end. 208 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:02,920 The first cause though that I really want to focus in on, right, is you just established 209 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:07,360 this amazing vision for Flow and how you're going to help people with it. 210 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:12,160 I'm going to pull the website up and kind of drag people through the website, allow 211 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:17,080 people to see what's here and what's going on with it while you tell us about how you 212 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:18,080 got here. 213 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:22,080 So, man, what caused you to step forward and become a founder of Flow4? 214 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:25,840 Oh, there's not a single cause. 215 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:31,960 There's a group of things that happened through the years. 216 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:37,240 So well, actually, I can take us on that journey. 217 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,480 I'm just excited to hear about the journey. 218 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:40,480 Perfect. 219 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:41,480 Perfect. 220 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,960 So I've always been very entrepreneurial. 221 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:56,160 I mean, since I worked with my dad in the textile business, I've always tried to save 222 00:12:56,160 --> 00:13:03,680 money for my own things and to go out with my friends, etc. 223 00:13:03,680 --> 00:13:10,440 And I started, I remember I started selling shirts, going out with my box of shirts to 224 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:15,280 downtown Mexico City and going door to door selling those shirts. 225 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:21,360 So that was a big, big thing for me because the first one, of course, everybody rejected 226 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:22,360 me. 227 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:27,240 90% rejected me and my shirts. 228 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:35,120 But that one person that gave me the chance to sell my shirts in his store, it made a 229 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:36,920 huge difference. 230 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:40,760 So I went through a lot of businesses. 231 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:45,080 I had my own advertising agency with some friends. 232 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:50,440 I had tequila, organic tequila with another friend. 233 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:59,400 Then I founded a hotel and hospitality supply business. 234 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:06,600 We still sold bed sheets and all bed linen to the hotels. 235 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:18,200 And then I founded Homework, co-working in Mexico City, which is one of my babies. 236 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:21,760 And it still does. 237 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,840 It's still, I mean, Homework is still there. 238 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,880 And we found it in front of the Monumento a la Revolucion. 239 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:32,140 I don't know if you have ever been in Mexico City, but it's a beautiful spot. 240 00:14:32,140 --> 00:14:36,960 It's a beautiful spot, so we have a very pretty terrace there. 241 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:45,480 And anyway, so alongside all those businesses, I've always been a people person. 242 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:53,960 I came to learn that later in life, but I was always focusing on business, business, 243 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:55,560 business, business. 244 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:59,120 And then in Homework, I realized something. 245 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,480 I realized that we weren't dealing with companies. 246 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,120 We weren't dealing with businesses. 247 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,380 We were dealing with people. 248 00:15:07,380 --> 00:15:15,680 So that was one of our great successes in Homework that we catered to the needs of people, 249 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:17,720 not of companies. 250 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:28,720 So for example, one of the main missions our home managers had was learning the names. 251 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:33,200 And last names of each and everyone who entered through those doors. 252 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:39,280 So everyone who would enter Homework, they would be greeted as somebody familiar, so 253 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,600 somebody that you knew. 254 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:45,760 So we make them feel at home, right? 255 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:55,120 So anyway, in all my businesses, I realized that I've been dealing or not dealing, I mean, 256 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,320 interacting with people. 257 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:03,320 And my own people with my own teams, I would use to coach them and to give them advice 258 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:08,680 on some stuff and even clients, even clients, I would greet them, I would welcome them into 259 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:18,080 our offices and give them the full scope of what Homework was. 260 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:22,480 And then I, oh, well, let me go back a little bit. 261 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:28,660 When we founded Homework, we received a lot of entrepreneurs and we received also a lot 262 00:16:28,660 --> 00:16:36,960 of incubators and accelerators and company builders, etc. 263 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:38,820 And I've always been very curious. 264 00:16:38,820 --> 00:16:51,440 I've always been very, like we say in Mexico, I go into what I'm not invited into. 265 00:16:51,440 --> 00:17:00,680 So there was this accelerator called Posible, that it's a accelerator, it's a great cost 266 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:01,680 as well. 267 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:06,080 I mean, if you can go into it sometimes. 268 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:11,920 But Posible is a foundation made by Televisa, which is a big media company in Mexico and 269 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:13,820 Nacional Monter Piedad. 270 00:17:13,820 --> 00:17:22,080 So they did this initiative called Posible and they empower entrepreneurs to build their 271 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,140 businesses and everything. 272 00:17:24,140 --> 00:17:28,560 So they rented Homework for one of their camps. 273 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:33,720 And so I approached one of the girls that was working there and I said, I didn't have 274 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:35,200 a clue what I was doing. 275 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:37,140 I just liked the feeling of it. 276 00:17:37,140 --> 00:17:41,240 But I approached her and say, hey, I want to be a mentor. 277 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:42,600 What does it take to be a mentor? 278 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,280 I said, oh, yeah, of course. 279 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:46,280 So we'll invite you. 280 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:48,920 I didn't have a clue what I was doing. 281 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:52,600 But so she said, okay, yeah. 282 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:58,740 I mean, you build a business, you build many businesses, so you have the minimum qualifying 283 00:17:58,740 --> 00:18:01,120 things to be a mentor. 284 00:18:01,120 --> 00:18:02,840 I didn't know what I was doing. 285 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:10,160 So I went in, I was a mentor for some entrepreneurs in the camp. 286 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:13,800 And it was an amazing experience, a life changing experience. 287 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:20,200 I learned more than I could, than they did learn for me. 288 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:24,480 And so since then, I've been a mentor for many entrepreneurs. 289 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,360 I keep learning, of course. 290 00:18:27,360 --> 00:18:36,760 But I realized that I discovered my calling. 291 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:44,520 And that calling is to serve other people to empower themselves, either in entrepreneurship 292 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:51,920 or in life or in creating habits or in living a life, a full life. 293 00:18:51,920 --> 00:19:01,680 So that's when I decided to turn all my experience into a business that could serve people. 294 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:05,360 So that's a little bit in a nutshell, Jackson. 295 00:19:05,360 --> 00:19:07,280 I don't know if you've heard. 296 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:08,280 No, it's great. 297 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:13,920 And so tell me this, Manu, what's your vision for those that you serve? 298 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:21,800 This can be broad beyond the flow forward, but specifically, let's start with flow forward. 299 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:22,800 What's your vision for their outcome? 300 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,280 What do you want to see them achieve? 301 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:37,120 OK, so there have been so many downs in my processes in that little spiral that I tell 302 00:19:37,120 --> 00:19:44,120 you about that I've learned something very valuable that I believe that it will change 303 00:19:44,120 --> 00:19:45,120 people's mind. 304 00:19:45,120 --> 00:19:51,040 I don't know if you've heard of the book Mindset by Carol Dweck? 305 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:52,040 No. 306 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:55,160 Well, it's a Bible for me. 307 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,280 It's amazing. 308 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:04,920 So many of us grew up with this fixed mindset that she talks about. 309 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:06,480 And what's a fixed mindset? 310 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:12,440 Fixed mindset is, oh, I don't know if you were good or bad at math in school, but if 311 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:18,240 you were good, you probably heard a thousand times, oh, he's a genius and he's a genius. 312 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:21,720 And if you're bad, which I was, I was bad at math. 313 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:25,680 I've always told myself that I was bad at math. 314 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:26,680 I was bad at math. 315 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,360 I'm never going to do something good with math. 316 00:20:29,360 --> 00:20:31,680 I'm good at other things. 317 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:44,400 And so I guess I learned I wouldn't say the hard way, but my vision, and I'll go back 318 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:48,080 to that where it made sense. 319 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:56,280 My vision is to get people to do things that they can, that they don't know they can do, 320 00:20:56,280 --> 00:21:04,160 to make things that they believe they are not able to do because of their own mindset. 321 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,520 I'm going to tell you an example. 322 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:13,200 So I had always the sense or the belief that I was bad for math and bad for numbers. 323 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:17,040 And I'm since I'm still struggling with that. 324 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:21,260 So but I'll get there. 325 00:21:21,260 --> 00:21:30,200 So I studied my master's, my MBA at the Pada school because my dad, my, which I, I mean, 326 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:37,120 I love my dad and I really appreciate all the lessons he has taught me through life. 327 00:21:37,120 --> 00:21:40,560 And he insisted me, get your MBA, get your MBA. 328 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:44,000 And of course I thought, I don't need an MBA. 329 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,960 I already, I'm an entrepreneur, you know, I don't need anything. 330 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:48,640 I know everything. 331 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:55,400 And so why would I get an MBA if I'm not even good at math and, and, and, and, you know, 332 00:21:55,400 --> 00:22:00,600 finance and everything, all that stuff that I see in the meetings, no. 333 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,520 And so I entered the MBA. 334 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,320 I said, okay, I'm going to do it. 335 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:11,320 I mean, my dad had the, the, he paid for it. 336 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,320 So I, I mean, I couldn't say no. 337 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:20,000 I mean, the company, the company that I worked for, my family's company paid for the MBA. 338 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,680 So I mean, it was a no brainer. 339 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:34,000 So anyway, my first semester of finance, they, my first class or second, some, some class 340 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:41,180 at the beginning, the teacher gave us homework. 341 00:22:41,180 --> 00:22:46,680 So we had to do this finance statement or I remember exactly what was it. 342 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:52,560 And I, that was one of the first times that I said that I challenged myself. 343 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,240 So I had this belief that I was bad at math. 344 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:59,880 And so I said, okay, how hard can it be? 345 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:01,880 So I'm going to do it. 346 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:06,520 I don't care if it takes me whatever, but I'm going to do it. 347 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:10,440 So I slept at three in the morning, but I solved it. 348 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:15,920 I spent a lot of time, what probably someone would spend a half an hour. 349 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:21,340 I spent like, I don't know, five, six hours, but I, I did it. 350 00:23:21,340 --> 00:23:27,680 So the next morning and the breakfast with my friends, actually my major was in communications 351 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:34,140 and I was the only one in the masters that had a degree on communication. 352 00:23:34,140 --> 00:23:38,780 There was another from graphic design and a psychologist. 353 00:23:38,780 --> 00:23:46,820 The rest of them, only three out of maybe 70 people were in those types of majors. 354 00:23:46,820 --> 00:23:54,720 The rest were engineers, business, business majors, and economics more related to number 355 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,720 majors. 356 00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:03,840 So as discussing the homework with them, I was quiet. 357 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:08,080 I was expecting everyone to say, oh yeah, I did my homework and it was like this and 358 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:09,880 it was very easy. 359 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:14,880 So I noticed that they start talking and they say, I couldn't do the homework. 360 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:16,640 Oh no, me neither. 361 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:21,120 I had virtual and I was just like, really? 362 00:24:21,120 --> 00:24:28,160 These guys that are experts in finance and whatever, they didn't do it and I did it. 363 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,720 So that was a aha moment for me. 364 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:37,520 That was a moment that really changed my, my way of life. 365 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:48,760 And not only that, but that semester or that period of my MBA, I was the number two highest 366 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:52,280 grade in the whole class. 367 00:24:52,280 --> 00:25:04,440 So I was feeling like, like we say in Mexico, like a pavo real, like a peacock. 368 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:08,880 So that was life changing and empowering. 369 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:14,080 I guess from that moment I stopped. 370 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:20,180 I mean, I started questioning my own beliefs, you know? 371 00:25:20,180 --> 00:25:26,100 And I brought the mindset by Carol Dweck because she talks in that book about two types of 372 00:25:26,100 --> 00:25:29,420 mindset that we all have. 373 00:25:29,420 --> 00:25:36,480 We have more of one of another, or there are people that only have one, but we've all gone 374 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:37,480 through there. 375 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,520 So the fixed mindset is that one. 376 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:47,020 The one that tells you, no, you're bad at math, don't do anything and whatever. 377 00:25:47,020 --> 00:25:50,320 And also the opposite. 378 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:56,240 For example, she talks about kids that they used to tell them, oh, you're a genius in 379 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,540 math and you're great. 380 00:25:58,540 --> 00:26:00,440 And what happens to those kids? 381 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:05,360 The first time they fail, they feel terrible. 382 00:26:05,360 --> 00:26:10,440 They say, they say, okay, so I'm not living up to expectations that I'm a genius. 383 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:14,000 They've always told me that I'm a genius, but now I'm failing. 384 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,220 I'm not a genius. 385 00:26:16,220 --> 00:26:18,880 So it's an amazing book. 386 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:27,780 And well, the other mindset, the growth mindset is the one that takes failures as challenges. 387 00:26:27,780 --> 00:26:32,680 So it doesn't matter how much time you fall. 388 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:37,360 It's, I mean, it's, how do you say that? 389 00:26:37,360 --> 00:26:40,520 It's very sad. 390 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:41,520 I forget the word. 391 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,680 It matters how many times you get up, get back up. 392 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:48,600 I mean, it's a phrase that we hear every time. 393 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,960 It matters how many times you get back up. 394 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,980 But it's real. 395 00:26:54,980 --> 00:26:59,420 So my vision for those that I serve is exactly that. 396 00:26:59,420 --> 00:27:00,600 It's keep going. 397 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:09,760 I mean, if you're afraid of doing something, do it and you'll find yourself doing it very 398 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:10,760 good, you know? 399 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,520 So that's kind of my vision. 400 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:17,600 And flow is a great tool for doing that. 401 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,600 So that's kind of my vision to empower people. 402 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:25,760 I appreciate that you didn't focus as much on the tool, but as much on the outcome. 403 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:31,000 You know, and you've lived that experience yourself. 404 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,840 And to empower people, and I think that's one of the most appropriate words for this, 405 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:35,840 right? 406 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:43,360 Is the empowering, the empowerment, the self-empowerment that comes from getting past the mindset, 407 00:27:43,360 --> 00:27:50,600 the mind struggles that hold us back and allow us to have the confidence to dive into the 408 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,200 uncertainty of growth. 409 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:59,480 And when we can do that, we can achieve things that we might not have otherwise realized. 410 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:04,920 Personal story on my side, when I took Strengths Finder 2.0, the assessment that helps you 411 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:09,280 find out what your top five strengths are, I was shocked when my number one strength 412 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,240 came back as learner. 413 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:12,760 Oh, wow. 414 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:18,360 I knew that I was studious and I was known as kind of that genius kid. 415 00:28:18,360 --> 00:28:24,160 But in college, I got the equivalent of like an F minus minus minus minus. 416 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:28,160 Like I have.33 GPA is not something to be excited about. 417 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:34,600 And it was only because one of my teachers gave me a C to try to help me like move my 418 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:35,600 grade up a little bit. 419 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,360 I should have had like a.1. 420 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,480 And so I thought that I wasn't a good student. 421 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,720 I thought that I wasn't a learner. 422 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,900 I was always in trouble for talking too much in class. 423 00:28:46,900 --> 00:28:50,040 You know, didn't know that would lead to podcasting. 424 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:56,520 You know, but it wasn't until taking that exam, that test where it told me, hey, you 425 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:57,520 are a learner. 426 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,420 And then it broke down. 427 00:28:59,420 --> 00:29:02,120 You learn through conversation, through social activities and stuff. 428 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:09,920 And I was like, oh, somebody who appreciates my weakness as a superpower, as a strength, 429 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:16,800 you know, those types of experiences change the way we perceive our opportunities in life. 430 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:21,480 And our eyes get open to the fact that, well, we're not broken or bad. 431 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,000 We're just and how we go about things. 432 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,840 So I'd love to know from you what's what's your vision for you, Manu? 433 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,840 What do you see for yourself? 434 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:40,180 OK, so what I'm working right now is actually that I mean, I'm waiting this week, actually, 435 00:29:40,180 --> 00:29:43,040 for my certification in coaching. 436 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:52,360 I spent the last, what is it, seven, eight months. 437 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:58,960 I'm getting certified by Tech de Monterrey as an executive coach. 438 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:06,280 And because of that same belief, I said, OK, I'm already coaching. 439 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:07,800 Now I just need the title. 440 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:08,800 Yeah, right. 441 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:16,760 I mean, I mean, it's a whole different story because, as you might know, coaching has a 442 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:24,660 little bit of I don't know, it's not very popular amongst certain type of people that 443 00:30:24,660 --> 00:30:27,760 are very business oriented. 444 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:32,400 And I mean, it's it's it's I loved it. 445 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:33,800 It's also life changing. 446 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:40,660 That certification that I just finished, it's life changing because it teaches you a lot 447 00:30:40,660 --> 00:30:43,320 of things that you can use in your own life. 448 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,680 So saying that. 449 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:50,160 I'm going to say something life changing for you right now, if that's OK. 450 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:51,160 Yes, of course. 451 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:56,060 For everybody who's listening in about this whole mantra that coaching is not appreciated 452 00:30:56,060 --> 00:31:00,280 and coaching is not like what people go to in business and there's this negative connotation 453 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:01,280 around it. 454 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,240 No, that that is that is so false. 455 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:10,440 And the liberation that exists in that is the reality that people are so let down by 456 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:17,160 the fact that there's so many inadequate coaches that are out there that they say that. 457 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:21,320 But in reality, we love excellent coaches. 458 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:22,320 Yes. 459 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:28,400 The key is we've got to become an excellent coach if we're going to coach. 460 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:33,960 And in the business world, one of the challenges, there's no public track record. 461 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:35,040 I can claim all day. 462 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:36,880 I make millions of dollars and claim all day. 463 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,480 I help thousands of people's lives. 464 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:42,040 You know, I can make any claim I want to. 465 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:43,800 And there's no bar. 466 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:45,440 There's no malpractice. 467 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:50,080 There's no website you can go to to hold me accountable to whether I'm telling the truth 468 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:51,080 or not. 469 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:52,080 Yes. 470 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:56,540 And there is one of the greatest problems with the false sense of authority that people 471 00:31:56,540 --> 00:31:57,540 claim. 472 00:31:57,540 --> 00:31:59,640 Oh, yeah, I'm a bestseller on Amazon. 473 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:00,760 Calm down. 474 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:05,760 You have three reviews and your mom bought your mom bought your book. 475 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,840 So that's right. 476 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:12,540 There's so much posturing involved in the market in general. 477 00:32:12,540 --> 00:32:15,200 But that that word right there is one of the keys. 478 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,360 General common. 479 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:24,600 The common client is so burned by coaches and the idea of coaching that no, they don't 480 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,800 want to have anything to do with coaching. 481 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:32,240 The ideal client, though, the people who want to make moves in life, the people who are 482 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:36,080 the one out of 100, perhaps or the five out of 100. 483 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:41,720 Those are the ones who are excited to meet a coach, but they're going to be ready to 484 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:46,960 ask the right questions to hire the right coach for the right reasons. 485 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:52,480 And we have a great opportunity in sports to look at sports and say, OK, and here's 486 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:56,240 why I can see the coaches track records. 487 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,320 I can see their win losses. 488 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,920 I can see their interviews, pre and post games. 489 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,320 I can see what contracts they sign. 490 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:05,840 I can see what players they sign. 491 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:09,480 I can see what players they ship out that don't fit into the equation. 492 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:15,760 I can see how their culture and my works because we as a society are obsessed with sports. 493 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,520 We love to see what's going on. 494 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:22,640 But most of the realities related to that are so public that it gives it paints the 495 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:27,920 picture and I can say, you know what, I want to run an organization like Greg Popovich 496 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:33,760 runs the Spurs or I want to run an organization like Bill Belichick ran the New England Patriots 497 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:39,880 or Nick Saban ran the University of Alabama or I don't want a culture that's like that. 498 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:44,840 There's so much transparency that exists in that world that it becomes it becomes worth 499 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:45,840 modeling. 500 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,880 But I would just like to say, Manu, your certification as a coach or your presence as a coach, even 501 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:51,520 without a certification. 502 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,040 Me, I don't care about the paper on your wall. 503 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,480 Yeah, I don't have a paper on my wall. 504 00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:00,960 I care about the principles that you follow, the way you show up to help me. 505 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:01,960 Absolutely. 506 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:02,960 So does the market. 507 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:04,600 So you do you, man. 508 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:05,800 You keep going with this vision. 509 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:07,040 Yeah, thank you. 510 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:08,040 Thank you, Jackson. 511 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:14,200 Yeah, actually, it's what I came to realize both in the Masters and that I started the 512 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:20,080 Masters saying and and it's very how do you say that so very well. 513 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,320 I don't know that word. 514 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:23,320 Sobering. 515 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:28,080 No, so better be is like, I don't know how to say that's all right. 516 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:29,080 You keep going. 517 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:30,080 I'll find it. 518 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:31,080 It's right. 519 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:32,080 It's bright. 520 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,080 Oh, proud, proud, proud, prideful, prideful. 521 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:35,080 Yeah. 522 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,560 So I was I was so like, I don't need a Masters. 523 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,560 I can do it myself. 524 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,200 And now with the coaching, I was exactly the same. 525 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:44,200 Okay. 526 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,720 I don't need to be taught how to coach. 527 00:34:46,720 --> 00:34:48,720 I already coach. 528 00:34:48,720 --> 00:34:50,320 I just need a certification. 529 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,040 I was so wrong. 530 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,560 I was so, so wrong. 531 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:59,320 And and and I keep I keep getting those types of lessons. 532 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:00,320 And I like it. 533 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:04,040 I mean, I stay open to getting those lessons. 534 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:11,440 That's a huge difference that I think it's beneficial for us to do things and maybe learn 535 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:12,640 the hard way. 536 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:13,640 Right. 537 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:17,640 So thank God I haven't learned that in the hard way. 538 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:22,840 But but I mean, I keep open to learn. 539 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:29,400 And so my vision is to keep working in serving people. 540 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:37,400 I just I love your your your podcast and everything, because most of the questions are focused 541 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,600 on how you serve. 542 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:46,200 And I recently launched a daily podcast in English, actually. 543 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:53,920 Yeah, it's called the daily daily flow podcast, the daily flow podcast tomorrow is my episode 544 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:55,160 number 50. 545 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,720 So make sure to listen to it. 546 00:35:58,720 --> 00:36:01,400 Yeah, I'm loving it. 547 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,000 It's been also a lesson. 548 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,320 I've learned more than I can ever teach. 549 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:15,920 So but well, one of the main episodes, I think it was actually one of the first ones. 550 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:19,280 I don't remember exactly what number it was. 551 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:20,280 We'll link to it in the comments. 552 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,440 So we'll link to it once we find it. 553 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:23,440 Perfect. 554 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:24,440 It was about service. 555 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,720 It was actually about service. 556 00:36:26,720 --> 00:36:30,000 And I went to mass. 557 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:31,000 I'm a Catholic. 558 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:39,260 So I went to mass one Sunday, and the priest gave an amazing sermon. 559 00:36:39,260 --> 00:36:43,600 And he told that service was a privilege. 560 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:44,840 I've never heard that. 561 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:46,120 I've never heard that before. 562 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:52,700 I mean, you always say the privilege are the ones who get served, not the other not the 563 00:36:52,700 --> 00:36:54,040 other one, not otherwise. 564 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,640 I mean, not the opposite. 565 00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:00,980 So that was that was like, wow, it is a privilege. 566 00:37:00,980 --> 00:37:06,840 If I have the ability to serve others, that's a privilege that not many people have that 567 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:08,900 privilege to do. 568 00:37:08,900 --> 00:37:12,480 So that episode is one of the most listened to. 569 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:18,800 And I love when I started reading your vision prose and all the quest, the preparing questions. 570 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:22,200 I love that because it's about serving others. 571 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:29,480 And I guess and I guess my my vision is it's it's like a ripple effect. 572 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,080 Why would I serve others? 573 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:36,520 Because I know that they are going to serve others and others and others and others. 574 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,280 And that's something I love to do with my kids, for example. 575 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:43,920 I know they are and well, I'm going to tell you another story. 576 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:48,240 Yeah, that really gave me a click. 577 00:37:48,240 --> 00:37:52,640 So I don't know how much time we have, Jackson. 578 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:56,760 We're close to the normal point, but definitely share the story. 579 00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:01,680 And then we come across the worst leadership experience ever and best leadership experience. 580 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:05,480 We'll try to be more concise on those ones so that we can wait. 581 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:06,480 But we'll keep going. 582 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:07,480 We're all right, man. 583 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,000 I like that. 584 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:14,600 So last year, I went to a how do you say that? 585 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:15,600 A retreat. 586 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,160 A retreat. 587 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:24,040 And so many people shared their experiences and everything. 588 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:31,240 And one of them was, wow, I mean, I'm going to cry as I tell it, because I'm a crier. 589 00:38:31,240 --> 00:38:32,240 So I do. 590 00:38:32,240 --> 00:38:33,240 Bear with me. 591 00:38:33,240 --> 00:38:34,240 Bear with me. 592 00:38:34,240 --> 00:38:40,160 And this guy, this guy was telling us his story about how he got cancer. 593 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,520 Then he got into an accident. 594 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:44,660 Then he went broke. 595 00:38:44,660 --> 00:38:50,680 So I mean, the worst that can ever happen happened to this guy. 596 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:58,800 And her daughters, of course, were terribly sad and going through depression and everything. 597 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,360 And here's the thing. 598 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:09,360 He told us about the gardener, the guy that did his lawn, that every time he would how 599 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,120 do you say that? 600 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:16,400 Put flowers in the windows of her daughters to make their daughters happier. 601 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,400 Oh, geez. 602 00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:24,120 And not only that, but the gardener paid him $100. 603 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:31,480 To this guy, to his employer, the gardener gave him $100 because he knew that he was 604 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:32,800 having a hard time. 605 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:38,160 So not only did he did his lawn for free, but he paid his employer. 606 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:39,720 Oh, geez. 607 00:39:39,720 --> 00:39:44,240 Oh, that really struck something. 608 00:39:44,240 --> 00:39:54,100 And so I realized how each one of us, regardless of your social status or your income or whatever, 609 00:39:54,100 --> 00:39:59,680 we have the power to change lives, regardless of anything. 610 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:07,960 I mean, if you feel that you're a nobody and you're going through something, you have the 611 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,280 power to change other people's lives. 612 00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:15,040 So that really, I mean, I'm sorry for it. 613 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:18,720 But that story hit me, hit me hard. 614 00:40:18,720 --> 00:40:26,240 And so I believe that we are, how do you say, tools. 615 00:40:26,240 --> 00:40:31,200 We are tools from God or from whichever, whatever belief you have. 616 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:32,500 It doesn't matter. 617 00:40:32,500 --> 00:40:34,960 But we are tools for good. 618 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,640 We can be tools for good. 619 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:39,120 So I wanted to share that. 620 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:40,120 I love that. 621 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,080 Well, that covers the best leadership experience. 622 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,880 That's one of the best leadership experiences I've ever heard. 623 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:51,800 Because the person who's doing the service also had it in their heart to pay, you wouldn't 624 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:57,400 say pay for doing the service, but he was willing to complete the work and give back 625 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:02,160 to that individual, you know, very selfless act. 626 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:08,880 And that is the style of service that I strive for as well and strive to inspire in the world. 627 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:12,440 So thank you for sharing that story. 628 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:18,360 Let's dive in a little bit to what's the worst leadership experience that you've ever had 629 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:19,360 or seen? 630 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,600 You know, you've been involved in a number of different companies. 631 00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:28,880 You've, I'm sure, worked with different leaders, different professors throughout the years. 632 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,200 What's the worst one that you saw? 633 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:32,200 Okay. 634 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:40,320 It's kind of, it goes along the same lines that my, the stories that I told you about 635 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:44,200 the MBA and the coaching. 636 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:50,000 And it's, it's about what we tell to ourselves, our self dialogue. 637 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:51,000 Yeah. 638 00:41:51,000 --> 00:42:00,800 And I realized that I sometimes, for example, I had a financial problem in the pandemic. 639 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:05,680 It was terrible financially speaking. 640 00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:12,120 And so I went to talk to an uncle that I really appreciate that he has been very successful. 641 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:17,880 And I was like in an attitude, in a victimized attitude, you know, I was like, oh, uncle, 642 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:18,880 you know, please. 643 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:22,640 I mean, I, I, all this is happening to me. 644 00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:23,640 Yeah. 645 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:24,640 Yeah. 646 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:25,640 Poor me. 647 00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:32,480 I mean, I wasn't that victimized, but I, my, my, I, I thought that my attitude afterwards, 648 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,160 I thought that my attitude was that. 649 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:40,520 So I was expecting him to comfort me to tell me, no, I'll help you. 650 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,560 You can, I don't know, go ahead. 651 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:47,440 And it was the total opposite. 652 00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:51,520 He I mean, how do you say that? 653 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:52,520 He scolded me. 654 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,400 He, he, he beat me up. 655 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,280 I mean, he didn't beat me actually physically, right? 656 00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,600 But he, I was, I was like, really? 657 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,760 I didn't say, I mean, prove me. 658 00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:04,720 He was calling me. 659 00:43:04,720 --> 00:43:08,240 So I went out, I went out of the meeting. 660 00:43:08,240 --> 00:43:16,760 I got home and I would stay with my parents when I'm in Mexico, whenever in Mexico, I 661 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:18,040 stay with my parents. 662 00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:19,940 So it was one of those times. 663 00:43:19,940 --> 00:43:27,720 So I get home from my mom and dad and I tell my dad, how my dad tells me, how are you? 664 00:43:27,720 --> 00:43:28,720 I said, nah. 665 00:43:28,720 --> 00:43:30,680 So, so I was depressed. 666 00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:39,560 I mean, I was my uncle, who I admire had just given me the, you know, and, and my dad told 667 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:45,160 me, yes, your uncle just told me that he scolded you or whatever. 668 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,240 No, I say, yeah, yeah, yeah. 669 00:43:47,240 --> 00:43:52,520 So I was still in that same mindset, no victim mindset, the poor of me and how did this call 670 00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:54,520 me, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. 671 00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:59,420 But then I realized how empowering that was. 672 00:43:59,420 --> 00:44:02,440 How empowering that was because why? 673 00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:09,000 Because I made responsible, I made myself responsible of that. 674 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:18,280 So I believe and I've learned through reading and through being curious about being a victim 675 00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:23,600 that if you stay a victim, you stay paralyzed. 676 00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:27,040 You you you are helpless. 677 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:34,560 But once you take hold of of your life, once you take the the how do you say the reins 678 00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:37,580 of your life, it's a different story. 679 00:44:37,580 --> 00:44:39,740 It's a whole different story. 680 00:44:39,740 --> 00:44:48,580 So by just the mind changing the mindset of from victim to being empowered to face challenge 681 00:44:48,580 --> 00:44:54,560 and to take responsibility, even if it's not your fault, even if that happened to you by 682 00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,360 external forces. 683 00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,840 But if you take responsibility of that, it's life changing. 684 00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:06,520 So I guess I guess that would be my worst leadership experience because I transmitted 685 00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:07,720 that to my own team. 686 00:45:07,720 --> 00:45:10,760 You know, being a victim, right. 687 00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:15,080 You permeate that attitude to your to your team. 688 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:22,440 And when they come to you in that same mindset, then you you realize that you did something 689 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:23,440 wrong. 690 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:28,480 That's that's a huge lesson. 691 00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:29,480 Very good. 692 00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:33,760 And and the shift in that case, in that instance came about pretty fast. 693 00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:39,560 I mean, almost it sounds like a same day experience to it and take years of suffering through 694 00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:40,560 that. 695 00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,360 There's levels, of course, where we are all constantly growing. 696 00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:50,160 So if this was your last opportunity to share one final power lesson ever for visionaries 697 00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:54,200 that they can learn from your experience, what would the lesson be? 698 00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:57,120 Oh, that's a tough one, Jackson. 699 00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:00,600 What powerful lesson can other visionaries learn from my experience? 700 00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:09,400 Well, actually, the same that I told you, I mean, I did things by empowering myself and 701 00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:19,120 by taking my responsibility of my own life and of my own challenges and situations. 702 00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:23,840 I learned that I can do extraordinary things. 703 00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:33,240 So it doesn't matter if I took a thousand courses on leadership or in whatever, if I 704 00:46:33,240 --> 00:46:41,480 don't take responsibility of my actions and of my situation, regardless of who did it, 705 00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:45,200 I mean, it's never going to change. 706 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:51,320 So taking responsibility for your actions is it's there's another story that I don't 707 00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,800 have the time to I guess we don't have the time to share. 708 00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,760 And I actually need to today. 709 00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:59,480 I need to find where I read that. 710 00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,960 But I read it in a book that it talked about exactly the same. 711 00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:07,340 A guy that takes responsibility of all his outcomes in his life. 712 00:47:07,340 --> 00:47:09,480 So that changes. 713 00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,280 Yeah, absolutely. 714 00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,160 Awesome, man. 715 00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:16,720 Well, we are going to going to wrap up for today's episode. 716 00:47:16,720 --> 00:47:22,080 But for those of you who are listening in, if you want to learn more about Manu, you 717 00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:25,480 can go to flow forward.co. 718 00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,640 You can also check out the landing page and see what action steps are there. 719 00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:30,880 We'll leave some action steps so you know what to do with this. 720 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:37,760 Let me move that banner real quick to there we go. 721 00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,200 And vision pros, we appreciate you guys listening in. 722 00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:45,320 And if you feel empowered to share your own vision, then of course, there's a be our guest 723 00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,560 button that you can click on the page. 724 00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:48,560 We'd love to have you. 725 00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:53,200 We'd love to explore your vision of how you're going about helping others and serving as Manu 726 00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:54,960 said, that's what it's all about. 727 00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:58,120 You know, what are we doing to help others in this world progress? 728 00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:01,680 We got eight billion people in this world that we could help. 729 00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:06,880 And if you think about the just really how vast that number is, and the fact that only 730 00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:13,440 350 million or so live in the United States and, you know, less than I don't know, I think 731 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:16,320 less than one billion live in first world countries. 732 00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:17,400 I'm sure it's even less than that. 733 00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:20,120 Feel free to correct me in the comments on what that is. 734 00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:24,600 We just have such an awesome opportunity to be giving back, to spread the wealth, to help 735 00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,420 others, to inspire the world, to do great things. 736 00:48:27,420 --> 00:48:29,280 And that's what vision pros is really all about. 737 00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:33,600 So Manu, thank you so much for joining us today on vision pros live. 738 00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,140 And we look forward to staying in touch with you. 739 00:48:36,140 --> 00:48:37,440 Thank you, Jackson. 740 00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:38,440 Thank you. 741 00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:40,240 And I hope to see you soon in person. 742 00:48:40,240 --> 00:48:42,280 Yeah, man, let's make it happen. 743 00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:43,280 That'd be great. 744 00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:44,280 Vision pros. 745 00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:45,280 Same goes to you. 746 00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:48,920 If you're in San Antonio, Texas, or you catch me my travels, don't hesitate to reach out. 747 00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:50,400 I'd love to catch up with you. 748 00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:51,400 Everybody have a great day. 749 00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,600 Thank you for being here today. 750 00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:56,080 I'm really happy that you tuned in to vision pros live. 751 00:48:56,080 --> 00:49:00,920 I'm looking forward to seeing your reactions as these episodes continue to move forward. 752 00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:02,560 This is going to get more and more fun. 753 00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:04,640 We'll have more and more engagement as well. 754 00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:06,880 I invite people to participate in the show. 755 00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,120 And thank you for giving us your time and attention. 756 00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:36,120 Have an excellent day.