stories that we carry with us that hold us back.
And so I walk them through a very specific,
it's a 27 step process to be super specific,
to walk them through that process,
to let go of that stuff and then create
from a place of freedom and then intentionally move forward
and do the things that they want to do
from a place of freedom and clarity
instead of a place of like, I wanna do this,
but I'm distracted, I wanna do this,
but I don't feel like I'm worthy to do it,
or I wanna do this, but I'm a failure.
I doubt myself, all those things,
they go away through the process.
I help them go through that.
And I guarantee that happens in eight hours or less.
So it's a fun and intense process, that's for sure.
Nice, did I understand that correctly?
27 process, 27 steps within eight hours or less?
The first, how many steps?
21 happen, 20?
Somewhere in that range, I can't remember what's,
but somewhere in that range or within the first eight hours.
And then the creation steps of creating this new future
for the person is the remainder of the coaching program.
That's awesome, so that would be people
who are in the want, I want to do this,
but they have that contingency.
And I imagine then that also helps the individuals
who are at a higher level of stress
where it's I need or I should do this too.
And because that's a, I would say that's more of an extreme
if those are your words and you're listening in,
I need to do this, I should do this.
Something else is controlling you
and your ability to choose when those are your word choices.
And so then you got this eight hour breakthrough
in these 20 steps.
Man, I can't wait to dive into that.
Kyle, you're one of the first pre-shows,
I think one or two other people have done this with me,
but you were the first one who at the end of our pre-show,
he said, you said, brother, can I pray with you?
And you blessed our relationship.
And I just, making space for that told me a lot
about your leadership and who you are.
Who are you as a human being?
Ooh, that's a good question.
Who am I as a human being?
You know, I was just on a networking experience
and his question was, who am I?
So, similar obviously.
Who am I?
You know, I am a, first of all, I am loved by God
and that is, that's core to my identity.
And second, I am a husband and a father.
So those are my three kind of primary identities.
I think people carry a lot of identities
and that's a good thing.
And sometimes we carry identities that are bad
and we don't wanna carry them anymore.
But those are my core ones.
And then I'm also, you know, a business coach
and trying to transform people's lives through what I do
and through helping them figure it out.
So it's a little bit of who I am,
but it's, how do you describe who you are?
You know, that's a tough, that's a tough question.
Elevator, elevator description of who I am, right?
Yeah, I'm proud to be who I am
because I'm changing and I'm transforming, right?
I'm proud to be who I am because I'm not who I was
on January 10th, 2023.
You know, I'm a complete, I'm not completely different,
but I'm a very different person than I was 365 days ago.
And it takes work for all of us to be doing that.
And so I'm glad to have gone through that work.
Some of it was ugly last year,
but some of it, most of it really was very beautiful.
So that's who I am, I guess, in a nutshell.
That's awesome.
Yeah, if you had three books to recommend,
quick books, references, which ones would they be?
Of course, in my mind,
the first one comes to mind is the Bible.
And then, Paul, so you made me want to go,
you told me to go quick.
I really, you know, I read a book,
I'm gonna go with this one.
I read a book called How to Read a Book,
I think is what it was called.
And it teaches you how to read books.
And so it's super dry.
It's by Mortimer J. Adler, I think is the author.
I don't know why I remember the author,
but it teaches you how to read books and to read well.
And so that book was pretty fundamental to my life.
And then there's another one
called Celebration of Discipline.
So those are the three that quickly came to mind
for me today.
Celebration of Discipline.
I might ask you about these a little bit later
when we jump in and dive in to the actual show.
All right, welcome in to Vision Pros Live.
With Jackson Calame, I'm your show host.
We'll be doing interviews for visionary entrepreneurs
and guest leaders who are building
fantastic visions out there.
Hey there and welcome into Vision Pros Live.
I'm your show host, Jackson Calame,
founder and CEO of First Class Business.
I'm excited to have Kyle Gillette joining me today
of Blue Shirt Business Coaching.
And Kyle and I, we got to catch up the first time,
again, for those who didn't hear it yet,
at the end of our great conversation
about what he was doing with his coaching program,
how he's helping people,
and is talking about his faith as well,
it's very important to his processes,
he asked if he could pray with me.
And I thought that was just awesome.
To me, it wouldn't have mattered
what type of faith he comes from
or what the identity of his faith is.
The fact that he wanted me to honor,
that he wanted to honor me with his most sacred power
was an opportunity for me to open my heart
and say, let's do this.
He could have been Buddhist, practicing Taoism,
practicing Islam, any type of,
he could have been Muslim,
he could have been any type of background.
And because of the honor that's there,
I would have wanted to make the space for that.
And sometimes I come across people in this world
who they don't want to make space for others,
realities and what's important to others.
And if it's holistic and it's gonna uplift me,
then I'm going to honor the experience.
So just sharing that tidbit of,
I don't wanna call it wisdom, just personal experience,
I found it to help me in my life, I hope it helps you.
So I have one of these sponsors,
and then we'll bring Kyle on stage,
The Wellness Shop 365 with Sean and Juliana Lechuga.
They've got this program where they're helping
with what they call integrative nutrition
as health and wellness coaches and consultants.
And ultimately, there are different levels of health, right?
There's just going on a diet and looking at that
from one framework or there's exercising.
What I love about what Sean and Juliana are focusing on
is a holistic nature of health.
And more about what we would call wealth,
what I would call wealth with abundance,
looking at your spirituality, looking at harmony in life,
looking at your joy, all encompassing,
because when, I don't think I've heard them say this,
but I've heard Dr. Eric Berg
in a similar fashion talk about it.
If you wanna lose weight, you gotta get healthy,
and you get healthy in order to lose the weight.
And it's been a joy to get to know their family,
and I'd invite you to do the same.
Then there's Melissa Gray of The Law Spot.
Melissa Gray is an attorney,
she's got a program called The Law Spot,
and she helps businesses break free of the stress of,
well, really not knowing who's gonna represent them
for legal counsel when they need it.
And she's a nurturer first, she's got a great personality,
she was also on our show,
and we had a great conversation and interview.
So if you're looking for legal representation,
or even better, before you get to the part
where you are looking for it,
it may be important to interview a few different attorneys
and see who might represent you in the event or case
that you may need that.
And getting to know each of those attorneys' rates,
getting to know, understand, understand how they work
and what they charge for.
I found that some attorneys are very quick to charge
for every single second of their time,
and their billable hours.
I found that some attorneys are a little bit more loose
with how they manage that,
but some of the loose attorneys
get a little bit more frustrated with you
when you try to ask for things.
So you never really know who's gonna represent you and how.
So establishing those relationships up front
and getting to know that process before you need it
can be an extremely helpful advantage
in the event that you have to go the legal route
for your business.
Now, last but not least,
we wanna talk about the water project
before we dive in with Kyle.
And that is a project that allows,
that rather helps millions of people
find access to clean drinking water.
And it surprises me every day to think about this,
that there are literally millions of people
who don't have access to the most basic,
fundamental resource in life.
And this particular program,
they find those communities in rural Africa.
They basically put a Kickstarter project together
so you can see exactly what they're gonna do to help.
And if you give to the community,
then they will keep you updated
on the progress of that community
and what they're doing to help that community
create a sustainable water system.
And you can see on the screen if you're watching,
the kids and how water to them looks like Christmas.
And so I would encourage you to at least spread the word,
at least share this with people.
If not, have the opportunity,
if you don't have the opportunity to contribute
and give, even if that's a dollar or 10,000,
whatever it is, don't let me limit you.
If you see the opportunity to give back, you're awesome.
If you have a cause that you'd like us to also talk about
and promote, then of course drop that in the links too.
Maybe something's going on in your family that you need.
Maybe there's a friend or maybe there's another event
going on in the world that you're paying attention to
and your heart's open to it and you'd like to share it.
Please feel free to utilize our platform
to spread the word about opportunities to help.
That's one of my most important callings and responsibilities
given this tool, the microphone.
So without further ado, Kyle, Gillette,
thank you so much for joining us on Vision Pros Live.
Thanks, Jackson, I'm excited to be here and it's great
to connect with you once again.
Absolutely, so I titled this conversation
based on your vision of being able to help people
overcome stress, overwhelm and overdrive
because as an entrepreneur, I often find myself
with one of those feelings or the hat trick, man.
I score the hat trick sometimes on a daily basis
of stress, overwhelm and overdrive myself.
So I'm gonna utilize this session for myself too.
Is that okay?
Oh yeah.
Awesome, good stuff.
So as we talk about shifting our mindsets,
I'd love to know on the front end though,
what's your vision for those that you serve?
What is the other side of that equation look and feel like?
Yeah, I love vision and one of the things that I do
with my clients is have them create what's called an avatar.
So future version of themselves, five to 10,
even maybe out to 20, but typically five to 10 years
into the future.
Wow.
In that process, I've discovered that some people
get a little stuck with creating that.
They wanna create the best version of themselves
and describe that, but the issue is they don't have a vision.
They don't have a vision for who they are.
So then this avatar, this future version of themselves
doesn't have a broad, really intentional direction
to go to that's kind of a universal path for themselves.
This calling, if you will.
And so I had that problem about five years ago
and I was really frustrated by it.
And so I spent a lot of time praying about it,
asking questions, journaling about it, talking to people,
sharing various things, reading books.
And finally, one day I was driving home
from a networking event in my car,
cruising down this highway and kind of in my own head.
And I went, what is it?
And said, God, what's the vision?
What do you have for me?
Because I was just so frustrated.
I had paused the book I was listening to.
And then I heard, I want you to help thousands
of business owners shift their mindsets and habits
so I can transform the hearts.
And I went, okay.
And then I cried.
Because that was it.
And if someone that's listening to this is like,
well, I don't believe in God, that's fine.
It's about transforming you to become the leader
you're meant to be for those that don't have
the same type of faith that I do.
All of us want that transformation
and I want it for myself.
And it starts with the mindsets and habits
of us as individuals.
And so that's, for me, my vision is to transform their lives
and then they get to then transform their communities
and their families as a result.
Because they become a different person.
And when I become a different person,
everyone around me is affected positively
and they become a different person.
And that is beautiful to me.
That's a beautiful story.
The second time in my life that I had that experience
where I felt I heard God, the Holy Ghost,
whatever somebody might want to call it,
I was also in my car driving and I had music on
and I heard this and I literally turned the music off.
I was 17 years old when it happened.
And it was a profoundly life-changing experience.
So yeah, listening to, again, whatever you want to call that,
the voice, the feeling, the depth of the soul, right?
There's an opportunity to tap into that more and more.
And so I'm really appreciative of your story here
about that.
You also talked about something that I don't think
a lot of people are comfortable with in 2024.
And that's this idea of wrestling with God,
being willing to talk to Him as a human being.
You were frustrated, right?
It's like, whoa, don't shout at God.
He might thunder strike, lightning strike you.
But there's a lot of evidence of people in the past
renting their clothes, as they say, in the Bible.
They'd literally shred their clothes.
And obviously, you don't typically do that peacefully.
I can't imagine somebody like one thing.
You gotta, you sometimes have to wrestle with Him.
So thank you for that authenticity on that.
Let's talk about that a little bit.
If you don't mind, what's your conversation style like
with God?
Do you have limits on that?
No, I wish I could show you
and I don't wish I could show you my journal.
I've been journaling since I was 16 and I switched to digital
well over a decade ago.
And so I have, I do, every day I do a journal entry
into my notes app on my iPhone.
So I always have it with me so I can do it whenever I want.
Usually it's in the morning.
And there's F-bombs, there's angry language in there.
Very, very caps lock, like literally I caps lock it
and I'm typing in there because I'm pissed off.
Like I'm genuinely pissed off.
And I know that the God of the universe
can handle my anger, no problem.
It's not a big deal.
It's not an issue.
And I think we need to do that dump out.
We've got to dump out.
And that's part of the process that I have with my clients
is dumping out.
You gotta let go of all that stuff that you carry.
And I need to be a student as well.
And so I have to dump it out too.
And for some people it's just dumping it out
into the universe and other people is dumping out to God.
But there is yelling and screaming in my car at times
for sure.
And then there's crying, really heavy broken crying as well
and everything in between.
So my relationship with God sometimes is a bit bipolar
if you will.
I would call that authentic.
And that's what I love that quote,
the God of the universe can handle my anger.
That is, I have not heard more truth today.
All right, cool man.
That's so awesome.
All right.
The next topic we're gonna go into is again,
a little bit deeper into your vision for you.
So you talked about defining this avatar for yourself
as well as knowing that you're gonna help thousands
of entrepreneurs or business owners.
What else does your vision look like for you?
Yeah, this year I've been working real hard
on defining that for myself.
And it is directly tied to the thousands of business owners
and people and shifting their mindsets and habits.
But it starts with me.
My vision for me is to go through that process
and I am going through that process.
And I went through that process with the coach myself
and I'm on the journey still.
And so for me, my vision is to become the best version
of myself in this timeframe,
like this year continue to improve this year
cause I'm not gonna be the best version of myself forever.
This year, you know what I mean?
Like I'm always growing is the point.
But being really intentional about creating community
around me and not being afraid of that.
I think that the last five years being in business
and really in my life, I've been afraid to create community
and create that connection and closeness.
And I wanna get over that and I am getting over it.
I might even say I am over it.
Yesterday, I did a planning session.
I sent out invites to people
over the course of several weeks
and I had 31 people register for it.
And the most I've ever had registered for anything
that I've done in my business,
but prior to that was like seven.
So for me, 31 was this 4X increase, more than a 4X.
How did you define that number Kyle?
I'm sorry, go ahead.
And it was beautiful.
Like it was so cool to have 26 of the 31 showed up
and the people that couldn't show up,
a couple of them followed up with me and told me why.
And it was a great experience.
I already got some good feedback.
And that's part of my vision, right?
Impacting the lives of people, not being afraid to do it.
And because I've put it out there
and I've let go of those fears and those negative emotions
and those limiting beliefs about myself,
it's already pivoted my business
and it's changed who I am just slightly,
but it's changed who I am as a result.
And this is what I'm helping my clients do.
So it's beautiful to see the fruit in my life as well.
Dude, I love that.
It inspires me when I meet people like you
who are willing to be that open and authentic.
Like I can't tell you enough how much that means to me.
And I bet it means a lot to my audience.
In fact, our audience right now,
if anybody's, I don't think y'all can see this,
but up here it showed that there's three people
watching in live right now.
Now there's two.
So I might've just, they might've like, shut up, Jackson,
let him talk.
I don't know, but that's a very high number for our show.
That's three X the norm.
Again, I bring that up because there's so many people
who I know pretend that there's 300 people
watching this episode,
or 3000 people who are watching this episode.
And it's so easy to believe that,
but when you're the integrator for tons of business owners
and coaches and entrepreneurs,
and you get to see, and it's like, oh no,
that's not how it works.
They don't actually have that.
I've had to let go of clients who completely lie
to their audiences because I'm like,
uh-uh, I'm not gonna be, I can't support that.
And I'm not gonna, and some people say,
well, it's just marketing.
No, that's just lying.
Marketing is virtuous.
Lying is not.
I wanna jump in real quick.
So this morning, I couldn't sleep last night
for some reason.
I didn't fall asleep till like 2.30,
got up at like 7.
You and me both.
I don't know why.
I wasn't even, I wasn't stressed.
I was just awake.
It was annoying.
But anyway, in that awake state,
for those many hours I was awake,
a previous person that I worked,
that worked with me, I should say,
came to mind, I'm not gonna say the name, of course,
but came to mind.
And one of the things that he had us do
was sign up for this, what do you call it?
A webinar software that would act like
there was 100 people, 70, 300 people on the webinar.
And then it was like, as soon as you sign up
and then you start to go into the webinar,
it makes it look like there's a ton of people there.
And I was never comfortable with that.
And I always put like a really tiny number.
And then I realized this has no integrity to it for me.
And I was a waste of my money.
It was $10,000, the whole program was.
It was a complete farce and lie
and a waste of my money, a lesson learned.
But that's a question of integrity and accountability.
Which is the heart of what I do is
that L in blue is lead with accountability.
And like I wasn't at that moment, for sure.
And it didn't work.
I'm glad it didn't work
because I might still be on that path if it had worked.
I mean, oh, this works great.
Let's keep going.
That's terrible.
But I have to admit.
I love that because when people say
that person doesn't have integrity, I'm like, hold on.
We all have some level of integrity.
It's all different.
And we all miss the boat
and don't see those opportunities
or justify certain things.
Like we've all got those levels.
So I'm not here to judge somebody else's,
but I know that my commitment is try to find
my highest level of integrity.
So those types of features that exist in systems,
I can't wait for the day that regulations crack down
on the marketing world
because the lawyers, they're regulated, right?
You have a bar you can complain to.
Doctors, they're regulated.
You can sue them for malpractice.
They can lose their licenses.
Marketers, it's almost free reign to do what you want.
You have to do something like highly illegal
in order to have any type of constraints on your reputation.
And why is that?
It's because we have unlimited access
to 8 billion people that we can serve.
So even as somebody tried to torch a marketer's brand,
there's nowhere to really torch the brand.
And even worse, what's scary
when you're a business owner
has been taken advantage of on the marketing side
is if you did try to torch them,
they are the super powerful, we can automate to crush you.
And so it's like, dang, I better just let them, yeah.
And so again, you think about these things
when a marketer has walked away with several thousand dollars.
So anyway, that commitment to integrity that you talk about,
the openness to realize that we authentically all fall short
of having a perfect set of integrity,
but we can improve that is awesome.
You also mentioned community.
And so again, back to stress and overwhelm
and where that relates.
The last three nights in a row, I've stayed up super late.
Two of those nights till five in the morning,
working with Go High Level to my CRM company,
trying to say, and that's it.
Like it's been two years, I haven't seen movements
on these elements that are affecting my brand.
We need to talk about this.
They were super gracious and they allowed me
to hijack their Zoom basically and sit there and say,
I'm not going anywhere until I talk to a manager.
Like I'm done with this.
Like I'm just gonna fix it today.
I'm just gonna turn in to fix it tomorrow.
And it wasn't because they couldn't get ahold of somebody.
They were working with me well on it.
And I love that tool and system
and what it allows me to do for clients
because my clients don't have to pay for their CRM.
Most people pay hundreds of dollars per month,
about thousands for really high quality
customer relationship management softwares.
Back to the point of this, it led me to that state of
feeling very overwhelmed with life.
Two sleepless nights, getting up for these podcasts.
I love these opportunities.
And by the end of the night, my brain is saying,
it's tricking me.
It's like, oh my gosh, life is awful.
Life is hard.
So many of your relationships
have fallen apart in life, Jackson.
Your son's birthday is coming up
and are you gonna be ready for it?
All the little overwhelms are starting.
And I'm like, I'm just tired and I need to go to bed.
I'm just tired and I need to go to bed.
I need to get out of my head.
So that overwhelmed stress overdrive.
I have my methods of however came that,
but I'd love to hear you first.
What are some things that people should do
or they should be aware of when all of a sudden
life's starting to feel very dark or imbalanced?
Where do you go?
Yeah, for sure.
I actually have a whole course called Balance, B-A-L-A-N-C-E,
which stands for seven different things
that I walk people through.
B-A-L-A-N-C-E.
You gotta turn it into a song.
Exactly.
I'm gonna get it republished.
I pulled it down and get it republished pretty soon here.
But the first A is for accountable.
And to me, that is what helps keep me in balance,
what helps keep my clients in balance
and prevents too frequent of overwhelm.
As business owners, it's unrealistic to think
that I'm not gonna get overwhelmed.
Like that's stupid. Thank you.
Thank you for being, again, it's these coaches coming
and they're like, you'll never feel overwhelmed
again in your life.
And I'm like, I love you, but that's so not true.
No, it's not. It's just not.
And so the accountability is,
let me just teach you the formula real quick.
It's something that I discovered and then found
that there's actually some research behind the formula.
So like I kind of discovered it
and then found that other people have discovered it.
And then I gave it a name that I call the accountability pass.
And the four things are passive, active,
structures and self.
And I'll go over each of them briefly here.
Passive accountability is about your mindset
and being brave or courageous.
So what that means is, Jackson,
what's your biggest goal right now in your business?
Can I get you to answer that?
Or are you going?
Yeah, it's the bridge the economic gap
between North America and South America.
Oh, wow. Beautiful.
Okay. And why do you want to do that?
What's the purpose?
The bold honest answers, I was called by God to do that.
Okay. Okay. Beautiful.
Okay. So this is easy.
So that right there is a goal that people care about
because it's big enough.
And the key here too,
with these goals that people come up with
is they need to serve other people.
Cause if the goal doesn't serve other people,
nobody's going to give a crap about it.
And so it's going to be hard to have other people come in
and help you stay accountable to the goal.
Your goal clearly serves other people.
And that's easy, that's straightforward.
And it's lofty is the wrong word.
It's beautiful, I think is a way better way to put it.
It's big and it's beautiful.
And it's outside of yourself,
which means so many things have to happen
that are outside of yourself.
So that means other people need to come on board
to make it possible.
Correct.
Beautiful.
So that's passive accountability
because you've told your audience
that you have this beautiful big goal.
And some of those people,
let's say over the course of time,
you've told now 30, 50, 100, whatever people,
approximately 10% are going to follow up
because most people don't care about my goals or your goals.
This is the reality of it.
But let's say 10% follow up and you told 30
just to keep the number smallish.
Of those 30, you can do the next step.
Of those three, excuse me, you can do the next step.
Let me stay with passive for a second.
You've got this side where you're telling everybody
so that people get engaged and they're excited about it.
Bless you.
And then you've got the other side of passive,
which is you're telling your brain
what it's gonna look like
to have successfully completed that goal.
What does that look like for you
to have successfully completed this goal, Jackson?
You know, that's so much simpler
than people make it out to be.
And that is I need to be my best self.
Oh, okay, yeah.
That's where I need to be focused.
If I am my best self and I show up
and do everything that I can for that on the day,
the grace of God fills in the gaps for the rest,
which means forgive myself to the best of the ability
as well when I'm not,
so that I can move right back in
to doing everything that I can on this day
to make that happen.
Cool.
So I teach my clients how to see, feel, and hear
what that's like to have successfully completed.
Like, what does it look like?
What does it feel like?
Where are you gonna be?
Who's there?
What's the context?
All those things.
I'll give you some deep ground on that.
Say again, I'm sorry.
So to honor your depth of that, thank you.
To honor the depth of that, right?
So I met Roberto Palomo the other day,
who I now call the Baker.
He's helped more than 18,
about 18 companies with their growth.
He's from El Salvador.
He lives in Frisco, Texas, kind of close to me.
And I told him about the mission, right?
And so now he wants to get involved with that process.
And then once the entrepreneurial path,
my company, my team members in Colombia and Peru,
one of them owns 1%, two of them own 1% of my company now.
One of them owns 2% of my company.
They're bought into the vision in a big way.
Eventually, I know that there will need to be some diplomacy
at government levels as well.
And so I see the vision of, okay, I'm not there yet,
and I'm not gonna force the issue of that,
but someday we'll attract the type of people
who can help us in those facets.
And so, yeah, looking down the road
and ahead at those realities,
I stay very aware that I don't have control
over all those realities,
but I have to gather those moments of insight
and say, oh yeah, that's gonna be needed at some point.
Go ahead, go ahead.
Yeah, and the more you visualize that
and the more you embody that,
the more your unconscious goes, well, that looks real.
That looks like it's actually happening
because your mind doesn't know the difference
between reality and then a very well-detailed
and imagined reality.
And so then because your conscious mind is a goal setter,
your unconscious mind is the goal getter.
And so the more clear you can make the completion
of this specific goal, the specific event in your mind,
the easier it is for you to go and get it.
And you don't have to labor so hard with it
because your unconscious mind is that supercomputer
that comes up with all the solutions
and presents them to your conscious mind
and then you go after it.
So those two components tell a bunch of people
and tell your unconscious mind
what it's gonna look like to be successful
is the passive accountability
because it's doing the work for you.
You're not necessarily, I mean, you have to work, of course,
but it's a different type of work.
It's not such a strain.
So then the A is active accountability.
I've told dozens and dozens of people,
you've told dozens and dozens of people about your goal.
One-to-one in a way, or at least in a group setting
where people really hurt your heart and so they get it.
Three people care and a couple of them ask you questions
and then you really connect with one of them.
And you're like, John, thank you so much
for asking me about that.
This is what's going on in my life right now.
This is what's going on in this goal
and this is the progress I've made.
Would you be willing to support me
and keep me accountable to it with this goal
and I'll support you and keep you accountable
to whatever goals you have, right?
That's active accountability.
It needs to be an exchange though, so it's fair and mutual.
And I recommend to my clients at a minimum
once every other week and it needs to be in person
or on Zoom or on the phone, not emails and not texts.
That doesn't count.
You gotta meet for 15 minutes at a minimum
in one of those three modalities.
Otherwise it's not gonna be effective.
So that's your active accountability.
And then the first S is structures.
Structures is the plan, essentially, it's the plan.
And I put plans in two different categories.
Your to-do list, which is the things you need to get done
to accomplish this particular goal to pursue the path,
to grow yourself, whatever it is.
And then the calendar is the people
that you're gonna be meeting with.
Because most of the time what's on our calendar
is meetings with people and most of the time
what's on our to-do list is the things
that we control that we need to get done.
Great, so then make sure to dial that in
and project out those to-dos and project out those meetings
as far as you can to move towards accomplishing this goal.
And in the process, you're trusting your unconscious mind,
you're trusting God, you're trusting whatever
to get clarity on those pieces.
So that structures.
And the last component is self-accountability.
Self-accountability,
Jackson, have you ever done zip lining,
skydiving or bungee jumping?
Zip lining, missed out on the other two.
Okay, cool, so zip lining.
And do you remember how far the longest distance was
that you went by any chance when you did it?
Probably like 200 yards.
Okay, cool, so 200 yards, 600 feet over a canopy,
a forest canopy or through some trees,
something like that I imagine.
When you were up there,
was there a point where you could be like,
you know what, I wanna get down, I'm scared.
I don't wanna do this anymore, I need to get down.
Was there a point where you could have said that
and gotten down?
I'm gonna be your bad example on this.
So when I was little, my brother's a daredevil, okay?
And my dad's in the oil field.
So we put up the derrick,
which is the tower for the oil well,
and we created our own zip line at home.
And after a day or so of doing that,
it wasn't fun enough, so we greased it,
and then it still wasn't.
So we made it spin, so you could spin on the way down
with no harness, nothing.
We were country boys doing this.
And then we decided to put the trampoline halfway down
so we could drop off onto the trampoline.
Dude, we were nuts.
We didn't know, I had no fear on any zip line.
But most people do.
All good, and the thing is, the metaphor still works
because as soon as you got on that greased line
and started to go down, there was no possibility
that you could ever get back up on that line.
As soon as you stepped off the platform, it's over.
You are going, you're going down, gravity wins at that point.
And so self-accountability to me is
what is that point of no return?
Whatever that is for this goal that you have,
whatever it is for the goals that the listeners have,
what is that point of no return
where you literally cannot look back anymore
or almost metaphorically, because sometimes there's ways
you can still look back.
Like you start a business and you're like,
well, I can quit and get a job.
But I mean, this point of no return in your heart
and your mind where you're like, no, that's it.
It's over.
I can't get back up on that platform
and return to the old way.
We're done, we're zipping down, we're going.
And that is the self-accountability piece
because ultimately I am responsible.
I am the one that's accountable.
And so I have to hold myself accountable.
And that's why this component is so important.
The other three pieces help me to keep myself accountable
a little easier, but ultimately we have to have
that point of no return with whatever goal, big or small.
Something simple like weight loss for me,
I need to have a point of no return
for weight loss in my life.
And it's a pretty simple goal in comparison
to what you're talking about for your goal.
But I need it still.
Otherwise I'm gonna yo-yo as they say in dieting
or we're gonna have regrets.
I love that.
So in other words, on the healthy side,
I can create an honor, my own point of no return.
Because you're right in the extreme.
And that's the thing about moving mountains.
I don't think God is the only power
that can move mountains in our lives.
And that's what can be dangerous.
The other side is not often talked about,
but we can bring about miracles and things
through commitment to being our best self.
We can also try to become our worst self
and have the same type of powerful effect.
So if I create an honor, my own point of no return,
which I've done many times in terms of this goal one,
living in Uruguay for two years,
serving as a missionary.
But two, honoring my relationship with those people
who counted me from there and still look up to me
from that experience in my relationships with Facebook.
Three, one day creating a podcast.
I created a podcast episode way before,
I'm almost 10 years ago, where I was asking my Latinos,
have you ever heard of Canva Upwork and Fiverr?
And here's what they are and here's how they work.
And then I sent that to 40 friends
that just like you talked about, got their feedback
and none of them had heard of those tools and they existed.
And so finding out why each one of those steps
made it more difficult for me to escape
the vision I wanted to abandon the vision
of what I wanted to create
and to take that one step further, Kyle.
And again, just to manifest for those who are listening,
the reality that Kyle's right.
And having Kyle teach these types of things
can be very helpful to lock you in if you're not doing them.
And I'm already gonna use this to up level,
but now my group, we're 665 strong
and Cynthia, Leonardo, Sebastian,
and others are participating.
We just, Patrick went live again.
I got a language teacher in here now helping us.
In addition to that, Cynthia has started the podcast
for the, and so the snowball effect that's happening
by taking these accountable actions is amazing to watch.
And now the team's starting to contact us
and go find the best teachers on YouTube
and ask them to come participate with us in the comments
and of their channels by showing them how grateful you are
for what you're learning from them.
And I'm gonna pay you to learn English
for 30 minutes to 60 minutes per day
since for those who want to learn English,
for those who don't, no problem.
You don't need to learn it.
So all of those mechanisms, again,
they're the ways that I know for fact
that what you're teaching people and helping people
is absolutely awesome.
Yeah, we're gonna shift gears super fast.
We're gonna dive into a dark subject
and we're gonna do this one fast though.
Simply put, what's your worst leadership experience ever?
I've got two that popped in mind
when I was much younger in my 20s
before I started the business.
So I'll share, yeah, I'll share that one.
So I used to run a mentoring program
and what that meant was guys lived on the property
and they were off track in life, 18 and 25 year olds
that were struggling with drugs and alcohol
or just addictions of various types.
And we helped them get their lives back on track
by helping them create what's called a life map.
To live there, you had to work there as well.
We had a pet resort.
And so the students would help run the pet resort.
And at the time that this incident happened,
I was the pet resort manager, 20 employees
and some of them were students
and some of them were college students.
And one of the guys had beer on the campus
and that's not okay because we had alcoholics on the campus
and that's obviously a problem to have alcohol on the campus
with people that are alcoholics.
And so we had made a big deal about this
and said, this is not okay, this is unacceptable.
If you mess up again, you have to leave the program.
Like this is not okay.
And then a couple of days later,
he ended up throwing rocks at a dog.
Also, he was in a bad way.
Like he was just in a bad way.
He had been in the program
for actually a few months at this time.
And so there was a relationship there with him
and he was an okay guy.
He was in a bad place.
And so he had a hard time with controlling his anger
and controlling himself.
But he had moved from being in the program, finishing it,
to now living in another house on the property.
It's kind of like a transition house.
So he was overall doing pretty well
because he had finished the initial program.
Well, long story short, I had to kick him out of the program.
And I remember sitting on the porch.
There was a porch, a wraparound porch
at this old farmhouse on the property.
I remember sitting on the deck of the porch,
sitting next to him, Caleb was his name,
and saying, Caleb, these are the things that have happened
and you know that it's not okay to be drinking beer
and it's really, really not okay to be throwing rocks at dogs
because these are other people's dogs.
Like it's a big deal.
And I said, because of that,
I'm gonna need to kick you out of the program.
I'm gonna need to, you're gonna lose your job
and you're gonna have to leave this program.
And that was it.
Like I had to have that conversation
and it was a really terrible experience for me
because I loved those guys
and I'm still in contact with several of them
and I still love them.
But you break the rules and there's consequences
and we gave him some warnings, but he didn't heed them
and so he had to go.
And so that was really a big deal.
It's one thing to fire someone,
but it's another thing to fire someone
and kick them out of house and home.
Yeah.
That's a big deal.
But the damage it was doing to other people
was important for us to recognize too.
So that was rough and I learned a lot from it.
And I hope he did too.
Obviously he kinda quit standing in contact.
I'm going to honor that as also
the best leadership experience.
And although you've probably got more experiences,
one, for the sake of time.
Two, because you did what was necessary
to protect everybody in that environment.
While that is definitely one of the worst types
of leadership experiences we can have
is where we have to draw a line in the sand
against somebody that we love for the sake,
for the safety of other people that we love.
There's no more, there's very few things
that I would possibly consider as more difficult
than that as a leader.
Yeah.
Kyle, if this was your last opportunity
to share a powerful lesson with anybody,
what would be the powerful lesson for visionaries
that they could learn from your experience?
Yeah, for visionaries.
So I didn't talk about empowerment too much,
but in the middle of the empowerment portion
of my framework is the concept of asking powerful questions
and deeply listening.
People that are visionaries need a lot of other people
around them for their vision to be accomplished.
And so one of the skills that I train my clients on
is how to ask powerful questions and how to shut up
and not be the bottleneck anymore and get out of the way
and trust those that you've hired.
And there's a broader context to what I'm talking about,
but the short version here is practice being quiet,
practice being okay with the awkward silence as a leader
and as a visionary, regardless of the context,
whether it's with family, friends,
or people that are working for you
or people you're working with,
be okay with the awkward silence
and be okay with asking the hard, powerful questions.
That will move your vision forward faster
than anything else really.
Well said, it is one of my secret superpowers as well.
If I have superpowers, that would be one of the ones
that it is.
And that came from training as a missionary.
We have a book, anybody can look it up online
and see how powerful and how thorough,
if you know us as Mormons or the Church of Jesus Christ,
Latter-day Saints, the missionaries use a training book
called Preach My Gospel.
And it's like 200 to 300 pages, very small print,
and extremely thorough in terms of how to train you
to be disciplined for all the things that we do.
There's an entire chapter called Asking Questions.
And that entire chapter is,
and there's only like 12 chapters in that 200 page book.
So the amount of depth that it teaches you
about asking powerful questions
and tying that to another chapter called
Keeping Commitments.
Like there's amazing strength of influence that comes
from being able to make space for silence
and knowing how to come up with the right questions.
So I'll double down on that.
That's a very powerful lesson
that people can study out and think through.
One of the activities I did on that on my mission
was as I was going before,
when we would plan our sessions with people,
it was just like planning my meetings for business.
And I would, you know, you'd sit there
and I just think through all the questions
I could ask these people based on their life.
And I would write those questions down in advance,
which would help me.
And so through the process of practicing that
became better and better at asking questions
leading to this podcast, I guess.
So in terms of a leadership advantage,
do you have a couple extra minutes
to talk about your program leadership advantage?
Yeah, sure, for sure.
Let's see here, go ahead, I'll let you do that.
And Cynthia, I'm gonna use,
let's go down on your page,
do leadership advantage.
Go ahead, Kyle.
So I understood that for the most part.
My kids, real quick, my kids are enrolled
in a former Spanish program at our local school.
And so I'm running along with them a little bit.
And I know some because I grew up on an orange farm
and so I got to speak Spanish
when I worked in the fields a bit.
So it's fun hearing you speak in Spanish.
And I need to dive in more.
But so leadership advantage program
is about people that want to,
what I'm hearing from people,
from clients that have gone through this
and clients that are interested in it
and are getting ready to start with me,
is they feel like they're at the doorstep
of their next version of themselves,
the transformational step.
They're at the edge, this point,
but they can't get through.
They see the door, it's open even,
but they can't get through it.
It's like there's this version of themselves
that's in the way.
So they're seeing themselves
trying to get through this door
and they can't get through.
And so this program's all about letting go
of that old version of yourself,
letting go of the limiting beliefs,
the emotions that hold us back
so that you can step into this better version of yourself,
step into this better career, better business experience,
step in these better relationships,
whatever area of life is chosen.
And I walk people through a four-step process essentially,
which is help them to release the things
that are in the way.
And then once you release the baggage, let's call it,
the stuff that holds you back,
like I said, the limiting beliefs,
the negative emotions, those types of things,
then that doesn't weigh you down
and prevent you from going forward anymore.
Then you go to create.
From there, you can create from a place of freedom
because your unconscious mind is free to create now
because it's not hung up on all the stuff
that it's trying to help you resolve from your past.
You create from a place of freedom,
which then means you can have the third step,
which is acting intentionally.
You take very intentional acts
towards what you want to achieve.
And then you do it with the fourth step,
which is a high level of focus.
You do what you want and you stay focused on it.
What I'm seeing with people before this
is we're overwhelmed or overworked
and we're focused on so many different things at once.
And we're being dragged here and dragged there
and shifted here and shifted there.
And it's because we have all these things
that we haven't resolved in our unconscious mind
that it, our unconscious mind, wants us to resolve.
And when we resolve that, we're free from that
and our focus gets locked in.
We move forward at a way faster pace
and then we can be far more consistent.
So my work in that program is primarily
the first two long sessions or two four hour sessions
where we dive in and we get rid of all that stuff.
So my guarantee to my clients is
you bring me a problem, I'm gonna find the deeper problem
that's associated with that, that is holding you back.
We're gonna get rid of it
and we're gonna do it in eight hours or less.
And then you can then create from this place
of beautiful freedom and I'm gonna help you walk
that new path.
That is awesome.
I'm gonna be talking to you afterwards about your program.
I think it would be, you know, this is
with the amount of coaches, life coaches, mindset people
that I work with and see, I don't have that initial
jump in feeling with everybody, Kyle.
It's very rare, especially to admit that publicly.
You know, like we're not, not that it's, again,
it's that authenticity.
I have no problem with the authenticity
but I love to hold myself accountable
with that passive accountability, right?
But I really do see the depth of your career path,
where you've come from to gain the knowledge that you have.
And it's one thing to be able to dive
into those deeper problems, right?
That's actually quite easy to do as much as it hurts
and as vulnerable as it is.
But to dive into the depth, just like diving into an ocean,
right, without proper equipment,
without the right people there to support you,
without the right, it can be a dangerous reality
and it can be a, it can lead to worse trauma, you know,
and not actually recovering or moving through it.
Most of us have a need for that,
but I highly recommend for those who are listening,
finding somebody that you just, you can trust sincerely
with that type of depth.
And Kyle, honestly, you've really earned my trust
in a big way on that.
So we'll dive in either after or a book of time
to learn more about leadership advantage
and how I can also utilize that to make sure
that I'm exploring my depth as safely, effectively,
and you know, at those right levels
to again, unlock my best self.
That's for me, that's what it's about.
I see that's what it's about for you too.
And I appreciate you for that.
So vision pros, those who are listening in,
if you wanna get in touch with Kyle,
we're gonna be putting the information for him
in our landing page for this episode.
And we'll link to that as well.
You go to visionproslive.com to get there.
And then in addition to that,
if you wanna apply to be on the show to share your vision,
then definitely there's a button on the top right
of our page that says, be our guest.
And that takes you to the process of understanding
who we bring on and what this is all about and how it works.
If you have a comment, a question for Kyle, drop those
in the feed wherever you're watching this.
We'll make sure those get forwarded to him.
And of course you can find more
about what he does at Blue Shirt Coaching.
Kyle, any final thoughts before we shut this down?
No, I appreciate your questions.
I've been on dozens and dozens of shows now,
and there's a variety of quality of questions.
And your questions were, every one of them was challenging
and thought provoking, and I loved it.
So thank you very much for that, I appreciate it.
Absolutely, Vision Pros, we will see you
on the next episode, take care everybody.
Thank you for being here today.
I'm really happy that you tuned in to Vision Pros Live.
I'm looking forward to seeing your reactions
as these episodes continue to move forward.
This is gonna get more and more fun.
We'll have more and more engagement as well.
We'll invite people to participate in the show.
And thank you for giving us your time and attention.
Have an excellent.