photography. So yeah, I've been a nice. Yeah. What's happened
photography? I did a lot of product shots for I used to work
in collaboration with a knife company. And that was pretty
cool. So Cold Steel knives kind of contracted me where they
would send me products. And then I would shoot with their items.
And then I got to keep everything they sent me. And
then that turned into I started to work for a firearms company.
And while I was over there, we I was, you know, taking product
shots in house and then I was getting I was able to buy
everything that I wanted at cost. So that was fun. And that was a
cool job. And then I started to dabble with like model and
badure, boob board, I still can't say that word, bode or
shoots with those props as kind of the focus. So there's a lot
of cool content that I was able to create. I can't say or write
that word. That's there. You can do some really cool macro and
micro photography stuff. Yeah, with knives and firearms. That
was probably fun. Yeah, it's a pretty cool shots that were
featured in there's a magazine called like recoil. It's like a
firearm magazine. And so they did like a web article on some
of my shots. And yeah, this is a fun time. But there wasn't a
whole lot of money to be made in the way that I was approaching
it. I think that yeah, I didn't have a whole wrap around like
the business sense of how to market as a photographer. So
it's a skill set that I've definitely used in every
business that I've been a part of. Yeah, it wasn't the I love
how you said that too. You said, you said there's not a lot of
money to be made. In the way I was doing that. There's a lot of
wisdom. And what you just did there. It showed me that while
you really do work on eliminating, eliminating
eliminating beliefs, you know, and the, not even just a self
sabotage, sabotaging of experience. If you do get back
into the photography game ever, Josh Rossi, full time
photographer, full time photographer.com that dude is a
champ. And has Yeah, he's he's legit. There's a lot of reasons
why I know that. But all these skill sets you talked about all
this entrepreneurial like I'm like, holy crap. That means
you've got you've got a huge foundation for e commerce for
marketing for branding for market analysis for physical
product for service like do your depth.
It was it's been really cool because I used to see it as a
weakness, right? Like, damn, I tried all these things and it
didn't work out and this and that but then I realized that it
gave me a lot of experience and knowledge. And then that quote
right a jack of all trades is a master of none. And what I
learned later in life was the second half of that quote, the
second half of the quote is a master of none, but oftentimes
better than a master of one. And so I've utilized that to my
advantage where it's like, yeah, taking all of those and kind of
combining it into anything I put my energy into today.
Dude, I love it. Okay. You nailed you nailed a fantastic
quote. What are three of your favorite self development books
or courses? Let's not throw the courses out the window here.
Those are those are becoming, I think in many times even better
than books.
Okay. The first one's title I'm going to censor a little bit. So
it's the un F you star K yourself. That is one of my
absolute favorite books.
I'm F yourself. Yeah. Got it.
Pull it up real quick. It is by the number to go the F to sleep.
No, it's by Gary Brown Bishop. Okay, favorite self development
book. Program I would say there is a leadership development
program that I've graduated from. It's known as the Atlas
project. That is that's been transformational in my life and
with my family and everything else that I do. And then my
business coach.
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Hey, what's up and welcome into vision pros live. I'm your show
host Jackson Calame, founder and CEO of first class business.
I'm excited to have Jeff Sarah on me today. We're going to be
talking about self mastery and eliminating limiting beliefs
and the effects of self sabotage and how we go about doing that
oftentimes without even realizing it. And before we go
into into Jeff story and dive more into his depth of you miss
the beginning. You want to go back and hear that and and maybe
look up his profile too and just see that the depth he's come
from. He's been he's he's experienced a lot of things and
he's been he's he's explored life to an extreme degree. And
there's there's a fantastic there's a fantastic balance that
comes from people who end up doing that who aren't just
isolated in a one lane. No offense to any of you guys who
are out there and are isolated and become champions in one
specific category. But there's there's a different wisdom that
comes out of the experience of trying many different paths. So
we'll get to hear about that a little more from as well. Before
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for joining us in Vision Pros Live man. I'm happy to have
you here. Yeah thanks for having me. It's a pleasure to be
here. Absolutely. So self-development sensei,
Reiki practitioner. Let's talk about the sensei thing first.
So what is a sensei for those who don't know and how do you
qualify to be one? A sensei is really a teacher or a master.
So someone who has experience or skill set in a specific area.
And so as I was kind of going through my journey starting out
as a life coach I realized and recognized that I wanted to
really kind of develop the focus of what I was doing rather than
the broader sense of just you know coaching in general. And I
realized that self-development is really an area that I put a
lot of heavy focus into myself because of the mindset that I
had and adapted growing up was very much a victim mentality and
looking external and blaming circumstances and situations
around me. And then once I kind of noticed and saw that I'm in
control of all that and it really stems from the
self-development and everything self-related right. So
self-confidence, self-care, self-love, self-sabotage,
self-limitations, all these things are we're responsible for
it. And so by making a shift internally we can then affect
our external world. And so that's really kind of where the
term and the title of self-development sensei came
from. I love that man and here's a big reason. So last night I
actually talked to another entrepreneur. They contacted me
on LinkedIn. They just happened to catch me at the right time.
And so I said you know what here's my zoom link. If you want
to jump on we can jump on and they jumped on in tears. You
know like just you know they kind of they give me a story
where they said I feel like Maverick when Goose dies you
know and Top Gun. And so I was like let me just send a zoom
link and see what's going on. And they jump on crying and
they've done a lot of external a lot of external work. You know
they've done this neuroscience programming stuff. They've been
hooked up machines. They got these cool like got this ring
that helps them feel better blah blah blah. There's a lot of
external factors. And in the process of listening for about
30 minutes what became super clear was their language choice
was a mixture mostly of what we would call language of worrying
I can't I needs I shoulds you know like really really like
limiting perspectives on on extreme and one time they use
the word I want to write a book right where they gave themselves
liberty and freedom to choose something. And so I'm sorry to
steal thunder on that but just I just can't I can't voice enough
the importance that people work with somebody like you to figure
out that enter I love that you said it. It's the internal
changes that things that come out of us that come from within
if we can control those the external assets become that much
more powerful but they're kind of useless if we don't fix
what's going on inside. What are your thoughts on that. Yeah
absolutely. It's it gives us so much power and control over
everything in our life. And we we actually do create our
reality not just through like manifestation but through our
perception and perspective of things. And a lot of very much
like we were describing when you were listening to your friend as
you hear someone speak and talk it's really good insight into
their subconscious. And so that individual self talk is very
limiting. Right. So then they're creating this story around
what's possible or what they're capable of. And it's putting
them into a box versus if you can correct that and point it
out which is what I do during a lot of my sessions is when a
client says something negative or it's an insight into their
subconscious will be like oh let's talk about that. Why did
you say that. And a lot of times we're not aware of it. It's
just it just flows out. But once you start to notice it and
catch it you can shift that internal dialogue which then
supports your subconscious which then supports the reality that
you create. And now you're looking for opportunity rather
than blaming circumstance.
Well said man. Well said. And for the record for those
listening this was a stranger not a friend. This is this is
somebody who had never met me before. The messaging though
the the that's one of the powers of recognizing that dialogue
and understand the effect the dialogue can have on others is
when when I write things to people I often generate a very
strong sense of emotions from the other individual because of
years of practice of tapping into how do I make impact with
with people. How do I help people understand that they
matter to me even though we haven't even met yet. And that's
something everybody can can learn to do it's a learned
trait. I want to go back to your life coach role. So you know I'm
going to ask a leading question. Those of you who are listening
you'll know where we're going with this. There's so many
there's a lot of older life coaches out there who love to
cast shade on young life coaches and love to say you know what
the heck do you know about about life. Like how could you be a
life coach. You're 18 years old. I have my own perspective and
paradigms on that. And you know I get their point but what do
you think there's a fallacy with that mindset and why. That's
absolutely a limiting belief. Right. The fact that you can't
learn from someone younger than you. Age is nothing but a
number. And there will be people in this lifetime that will pass
away and they haven't lived a day in their life. And so on the
flip side of that there are people that are even younger
than I am that have much more life experience than I do. And
so to say just because our age is different means I can't
learn anything from you would be self-sabotage. It would be
limiting me to only looking at individuals that are older than
me to learn something. And one of the most interesting or
impactful kind of things in my life around this has been the
relationship I have with my dad. So growing up you know it was
always he would teach me things and it was kind of a one way
street. It was like you know when I was a kid it was his way
or kind of like the highway right. It's you know do things
this way while you're under my roof. Okay that makes sense. And
then as I've gotten older and we've kind of leveled out in
terms of the way that we talk to each other it's actually flipped
where he understands the work that I do. And he was actually
one of my first kind of trial clients. He and I did a lot of
work together when as I was stepping into this work where
he's like okay like let's let's kind of try this out and walk me
through what you've created. And we did a lot of sessions
together and he's like oh wow like I can learn a lot from you
and it was kind of this this pivotal moment for him to
realize that you know somebody that he raised is now teaching
him something. And so in the same way right there's there's
so many other people that you know a good amount of my
clients are actually older than me. And I found that to be
interesting where you know it is this interesting dynamic of age
doesn't matter and it doesn't mean that a person has more or
less knowledge it just means it's different it's unique and
it could be a new perspective that you may not have.
Absolutely and I love that. I hope more people I think a lot
of times it's a life coach who feels like they're losing
control of their market. It doesn't understand their own
value wants to utilize that to crush you know a portion of the
market so there's less competition. I think that's where
a lot of that limiting belief comes from from people who try
to you know when you when you sell a hammer everything looks
like a nail. You know and so you want it you want to get your
stuff sold. It's one way to do it is fight against the market
that's what they train you to do and marketing to it's crazy.
But anyway digressing a little bit back to your point. I was a
19 year old missionary you know speaking a foreign language
talking to 80 year old atheists about why they should believe
in God. To great effect you know and a lot of that had to
do with my own personal conviction and background. Then
I became a father. Right. My first child. Oh my goodness. What
a depth of wisdom and knowledge that she was born with and
granted me with. And so on one side I learned so much just from
watching her and studying her and how she viewed the world and
how she she took things in. And I thought I was a perfect
parent. Child number two taught me I sucked at parenting. I
realized I didn't know anything about what I was doing. Glad I
didn't write the book on that. And once I acknowledge that
because it's like I was the guinea pig. Right. You learn
for the second child how to do things a little better. Yeah.
Well you know my second comes out and he is a son and like the
kids in Alpha. He wanted to do his own thing and I was like
dang it. I had one child that listened perfectly one child who
seems not to listen at all. But as I dove into paradigm you
know and started to think through like what's he teaching
me. What am I supposed to learn from this. I don't know. He
listened but he also had an independence about him in a way
he explored the world that again opened my eyes. So there is no
there is no limit to age or certification for life coach. You
know you you either dedicate yourself to that process and love
to help people or I guess you don't. Let's talk about your
vision for those that you serve. So overcoming self sabotage
overcoming limiting beliefs moving into self mastery on the
vision side of self mastery. What's life look like for those
you serve upon arrival. You said on the vision side of self
mastery. Yeah. So a lot of people will talk about the
journey of getting there. But what's the destination look and
feel like.
The the shift between the first day I work with one of my
clients to kind of when we come to the close or kind of when we
reach a certain point. There's there's this amazing kind of
spark where I'm not having to adjust and point out their
vocabulary. It's like they catch it themselves and they're
noticing. Oh yeah. Like I said that in a negative way. Let me
rephrase that. Or what are not not like the limiting belief or
the self limitation of like oh I can't afford that. It's how can
I afford that. So this shift in perspective around anything is
possible and that they're capable of so much more than
when we start working together where it's you know a lot of
confusion or doubt when we first started like yeah I don't I
don't know. I have no idea. Like I'm not sure. I'm here hoping
you can tell me. And then as we work together they realize
there's very little that I actually tell them and that it's
all coming from within. So that really empowering the individual
to be able to realize and recognize their own power and
potential. That's really the vision to really have people
tap into what's always been there. Oh I love it. OK. So I
want to we're in a trial by fire. We're going to test and
I've never done this in the podcast for but it's good. So
let's do this Jeff. I'm going to give some statements and and I
love for you to play the vocabulary game with me. Oh
OK. Helping shift the statements to a new mindset. So I have to
run to this meeting. What would happen if you did it. OK. I
don't know. Maybe maybe I get fired. OK. So we always have a
choice. Now what's the worst that happens if you don't go to
your meeting. The again maybe maybe I get fired. OK. Yeah. Oh
I mean is it the end of the world if you get fired. No it's
not. Yeah. So do you have to go. I guess I don't have to go. So
if I wanted to shift my language what would be the more healthy
way of looking at perspective. Rather than have it would be
get to go right. I get to. Good. OK. Yeah. That's what I use
to grab it. Have a meeting. It means that right. There's a
purpose and a point and it's part of whatever you're up to.
It's an opportunity some shape or form. But if you're looking
at is oh I have to go do this thing. Your perspective going in
is what are you going to get out of it. It's more of. So here we
go on the next one. I need I need to get this project done
right now. OK. What's the healthy healthy alternative.
Same thing I get to. I get you get to stick to a commitment and
reach a deadline right and build both self trust and trust with
whoever you're delivering that to. Yep. Absolutely. You know I
should I should do this. I mean my coach told me I should do
this marketing plan rather than should because then that makes
it an external thing right. Like what society or someone else is
telling you to. It's I choose to or I get to. Right. What like
are you actively choosing to do the thing or are you just
listening to someone else without knowing why. Yeah. Very
good. Thanks for going through that with me a little bit again
those who are listening in these subtle changes these subtle
adjustments. I think this is especially hard if you're
learning in a foreign language. This is super hard for me in
Spanish still. For instance the the shoulds woulds coulds. Those
words matter tremendously from a healthy dialogue standpoint. And
so most of the time when I find myself saying I should I remind
myself I could write again back to another one one more of them.
You know I there's no way I can afford to do that right now. You
know I can't I don't have the money. I can't I can't possibly
invest more time or money in that. Yeah. How how can I afford
this. What do I get to do in order to be able to afford this
and it doesn't have a negative impact on. That's right. How can
I make the time. We become victims of our own life
circumstances. We put ourselves in a jar of limiting beliefs
that we can't can't see past because or that we refuse to see
past because who knows what's going on inside. I guess Jeff
knows. So it would be important to work with them. Jeff what's
your vision for yourself. Vision for myself is to something
interesting you said during the very beginning and talking about
the language and the cultures that you were able to really
pick up and learn really quickly was confidence. And growing up.
So I'm Japanese American and I've taken intro to Japanese
about four times. The reason for that is because I failed three.
And I realized like I used to think like I have a language
learning disability like what's going on here. How come I can't
pick up and adapt to the language. And it clicked while
you were sharing that it was a lack of confidence. One hundred
percent it was that was the limitation that I put on myself.
So my vision is to to really learn and become fluent in
Japanese so that the work I'm doing here I can bring back to
Japan. There are coaches in Japan but they're all business
coaches and the focus is heavily on career which is actually part
of the problem. The mental health in Japan is suffering
because of the high stress environments in the corporate
world and people aren't taught to take care of themselves or
prioritize their own needs. It's all about what's good for the
collective good or what's what's best for the collective good.
What's best for your company. What's best for your family.
But everyone then ends up pouring from an empty cup. And
while that's a beautiful sentiment and when everyone is
operating in that way it does work it does create this
yearning for self care. And people don't realize that that's
an option in Japan. And so that's something I definitely
want to kind of transition and bring over there where growing
up here I had a mix of Western influence and culture as well as
the Japanese mentality. And so I've kind of taken the best of
both worlds and combined them into a healthy balance of
understanding. Yeah it's great to be considerate of others but
there's that threshold of you don't want it to be detrimental
to yourself. And so that's really my vision is to be able
to connect the work I'm doing here in the U.S. back to Japan.
That's beautiful and amazing. And you're right. Your language
learning capacity has will be completely different this time
around because of that continued development of confidence through
self mastery. To be clear for people too when I first tried to
learn Spanish tried to I went to Spanish one and Spanish two in
high school but I had no desire to learn it. In fact I sat next
to Jesus on purpose and Jesus hooked me up man. That dude
helped me get through everything. I know it was called
cheating back then but I was just way early to the game of
collaboration. And so I made it through those. I made it through
Spanish one and Spanish two. Got to college took Spanish one
again and found out there's this thing called conjugation which
is pretty much the basis of passing one and two. So the fact
that I didn't learn that until the third time tells you how
much Jesus helped me. So that said it was and I did not I
would have never had the confidence. What gave me the
confidence was receiving my mission call. Being called by
God to serve in Uruguay. You know like that that you know
whether you believe that's true or not doesn't matter for you.
The fact that I believed it. That helped me go in and study
like crazy and put my disciplines in place knowing
that that's what my purpose and mission was to figure out. So
you know if any of you are listening in you know feel
inspired by the fact that we've got these massive callings.
Yours is right there too waiting for you to figure out.
So let's dive into a dark subject real fast. What's your
worst leadership experience ever? And this could be yours
this could be one you've seen on TV. What does that look like
to you? Worst leadership experience in terms of like
leadership that I was underneath or that I was in charge of.
Could be either your choice. So before I stepped into fully
committing to being an entrepreneur I worked for eight
years in web security. Now during this time I worked
graveyard shift and there was maybe three of us on that on
that shift. The rest of the company was all during the day
and then we had an office in Belfast Ireland. And I had
noticed that there were things that could be improved on and
that weren't working and that a lot of my team was complaining
about. So I found some solutions and then I put it
together into a PowerPoint presentation. And then I went to
my manager and presented that and he was furious. He went to
HR and reported me for insubordination. I was like how
is this insubordination? And I think he saw it as like an
attack on his position and like so you don't like what I'm
doing or there's other things. And it was like yeah, well I
don't think you have the perspective of how it affects
what we do. And so I had to go and I had to sit and talk with
HR and all these things. And what really, really bothered
me was maybe a year or two later just about everything that
I had presented on that PowerPoint presentation was
implemented. And it was under a change of leadership. He had
shifted to another role or left the company and someone else
came in and all those things were implemented. I'm like I
presented this in a literal PowerPoint at some point and you
guys said no and now we're doing it. It's like okay so that
was probably my worst experience with leadership that
create a lot of resistance. And I'm like yeah, I don't like
working for someone else, especially when I can think of
a better way to do something and then I'm punished for it.
Right. It can be one of the most disappointing forms of
validation, can't it? Yeah. It's like I had this right and now
I'm not being recognized and it's challenging. However, it
serves you from a point of validating that you were on
point and in the future you'll remain on point again but with
more confidence that that solution works. I was fired by
Lifetime Fitness. I was fired by the CEO actually. And yeah. And
so not to see your thunder or dive into your episode too far
but I had written an email back to the company. They had
talked about somebody being great in the child care
facility and they wrote a great piece on him. And I didn't
reply. I didn't know reply. All went company-wide. Like who
the heck has a system set up like that? You know, for a
publicly traded company. And I said I hope you guys have the
balls to raise his pay or reward him for what he did. And
you guys should make a video about this for the club. I
think it would do awesome. Anyway, the whole company
received my email. I did not mean to do that. Nonetheless, I
already had my two weeks in at the time. So my boss calls me
the next day. He's like Jackson, what did you do? He's like
this is not you. Why did you do this? He's like look, we don't
want to stick our necks out for you because you got your two
weeks in. Are you cool wrapping up today? I was like I don't
have to do my two weeks. Sure. But nonetheless, I walk into
the club six months later on my free membership that I still
had as an employee. And they've done a video on him. They've
done a club promotion about this guy and how awesome he is.
And I'm like, that was mine. And I was mad at first. I was like,
dude, they totally took my idea after firing me.
I forced their in my case. So I had forced their hand. I made
everybody's call that email. But they used it and they turned
it and if I were Brahmacrati, I believe that was the name of the
CEO at the time, the founder, I would have fired me too. I
would have had to do that for the control of the environment,
make sure other salespeople don't do what Jackson did. So if
I ever get a meeting, I'll shake his hand about it. But maybe
that was a combination of my worst leadership as a follower,
it's kind of stepping outside my bounds. But that same effect,
right? It's the concept ends up being validated. But we learn
and maybe we use it again in the future. So what's your best
leadership experience look like?
Best leadership experience. I'm trying to think of an example,
but the concept of somebody in a leadership position, being
right there next to the people that are doing the work to have
a clear understanding of any pain points that are possible.
Let me guide you towards the story too, though. You think
through that for a minute, but early on, you were talking about
three of your top resources, and one of them was your business
coach. So if you have any stories about your business
coach as well, this might be an appropriate time to bring that
up.
Yeah, so Sajad Hussain with Cause and Effect. That's my
business coach, and he practices what he preaches. So he
understands the pain points, right? So I think that is a
great example of the leadership where it's, you know, the
great example of the leadership where it's, you know, if
you're going to be telling and supporting others with advice,
you should be, you know, doing it as well. And so he has a
very, very thought out, meticulous structure to his
program and his process for six weeks, that if you follow it
to the tee, it creates amazing results. And that was the case
for my business where it completely flipped how I was
operating and how I did things. I more than doubled my prices
and created more revenue probably the two months after
graduating from his program than I had the two years prior
operating on my own. And again, it was, you know, he's telling
me to do these things. And for somebody as you're watching, if
you're just like, oh, like, you're saying it, but I've
seen you not do it, right? Like, if you if you go to a gym, and
your trainer is overweight as well, it's like, why am I going
to listen to you? Right? So similar to that, where it's like,
if you're watching this individual practice what they
preach, and it's creating results, and then you start to
see it for yourself, it's a great example of leadership of,
you know, living and breathing the very thing that you're
trying to support others with. And so in the same way, I have
to hold myself to this higher standard, which is great
accountability for what I support my clients with. And I
feel like it's the same for any leadership position where if
you're wanting your subordinates or anyone you're
working with to do the thing, make sure that you're capable
of it as well or willing to do it the same way. Okay, I got a
great one. So the second one that I mentioned, how do I
spell his name though, the business coach?
S A J A D.
H U S E.
I'm sorry, H U S A I N.
Okay, Sajad Hussain.
Yeah.
Good. Okay. All right, keep going. Sorry. I gotta give some
credit to this man.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. One of my favorite leadership
experiences was in that program that I mentioned, the Atlas
Project. There's a time where, you know, we're kind of setting
up an event and putting things together. And we had to kind of
hodgepodge this kind of like a dinner situation. And we didn't
have like a full kitchen venue. And we had to like really
we rented the dishes and everything else and brought it
into this space. But there wasn't a kitchen. So one of the
leaders, one of the people in a kind of a power position within
the organization was she was standing in the bathroom,
washing the dishes in the sink. And I came by and I'm like,
what in the world is going on? What are we doing? And it's
like, hey, we just got to make it work. And this is the only
solution. And I'm like, this is amazing to witness, right? Like
you're here doing the grunt work with us. This is another
prime example of, you know, getting into the nitty gritty
of things and being there right alongside everybody else that
you're asking to support with this experience in this event.
And so again, to have that clarity and insight to be like,
okay, this is a problem. We'll solve this for the next time we
do this. But for now, this is the solution. And rather than
being like, hey, can you do this? It's like, no, I'm here.
I'm going to do it. And then for the next time we take that and
we integrate that where it's like, we need a kitchen the next
time this happens. And rather than, you know, delegating that
to someone else to be like, oh, this job is beneath me or
anything like that. It was just, this is the solution and I'm
here and I'm capable. So I'm going to do it. That was a prime
example for me.
I love that. There's an important balance to be had
depending on the scale of the company. I think that's a big
factor in it, but of being willing to do those tasks and
also being willing to let go of it so that you're delegating
appropriately, right? So that you're not getting bogged down
by the mundane work. But, you know, if you want to be a
business owner, right? You want to have a business owner
mentality, go clean the bathroom. You know, that's go
take the garbage out because that's at the end of the day,
you know, the business owner is going to make sure that's
done. Go make sure that that front door glass doesn't have
fingerprints all over it. You know, so that there's a good
presentation for those who are coming in. Those are the types
of things that the business owner doesn't allow to go
overlooked when they have true pride and like a sense of pride
joy and what it is they're doing. So I think that's well
said. The powerful lesson. So if this were the last
opportunity to share a powerful lesson with other visionaries
so they can learn from your experience, what would that
lesson be?
So I'm a huge advocate for cold showers and the reason for
that is to build the mental fortitude to recognize that you
can get comfortable being uncomfortable and anytime
you're about to do something new, there is that moment of
hesitation, that doubt or that insecurity around can I do
this? I don't have the experience. I don't have the
knowledge and you have to just do it. The only way you're
gonna get the experience and the information is by trying
and yeah, you may fall. Yeah, you may fail. It may not work
out, but you're gonna gain the experience from that to know
what will work better next time. So the number one lesson
there is to just yeah to try things out and be okay with the
failure. I'm this is what I do now is probably my 8th
business. The other seven didn't pan out in the way that
I wanted them to, but like we were talking about earlier,
it's given me great insight and a wide range of skill sets
that I've combined into what I'm able to do today and so I
don't see those as seven failures. I see them as seven
stepping stones to where I am today. I love that at any point
in time at any point in time in your life, you can give up
on your dream and go back to and go back to normal. You
know and and achieve normal results and you may you may
not receive you may not achieve the same level of normal that
you could have. But it's give it's give her less, you know
give or take the same so that you'll have that opportunity,
but those like you said all those opportunities have led
you to where you are. They've given you capacities to pursue
a potential beyond what you could likely have achieved had
you had you chosen a more complacent route. So that I
think it's awesome. I hope I hope that you have that that
honorable experience of being able to see it come to
fruition the way that you want to. That would be that would
be awesome man in regards to cold showers. I will you know
what I'm just gonna go on the record. I freaking hate cold
showers. There's one of my limits. It's not a limiting
belief. It's one of my limits. There's probably some limiting
belief behind it too, but I tried and Doctor Eric Berg.
Thank you. I love him to death. Great formal formal client
while I was at video power. 11 million subscribers, maybe 12
million now he grows fast, but he he talked about cold
showers too and I was finally like dang if Doctor Eric Berg
is gonna say it. I probably need to try this thing and do
it. So I I did my cold showers for about a month and man I I
I can do it. You're right. It does teach you that you can be
resilient and do things that you don't like. It can help
with that, but there's so many other things in life that I do
that that are uncomfortable like I don't need an extra one. I
got I got plenty of I have anything I need to learn how to
stay in a comfort zone. So my shower is my comfort zone. Well
is that is that gonna hold me back in life Jeff?
Perspective it's it could potentially be limitations
where how we do one thing is how we do everything right. So
there's if you're holding back there, it may be showing up in
other areas as well and there's a lot of health benefits to it
as well right. So reducing inflammation supporting with
turning the white fats into brown fats. There's definitely
I think it's an endorphin release. I forget if it's endorphins
or serotonin gets released. Well, it's probably I also
realize and recognize that after after about the first
month if you stick with it and you're shifting your
perspective, I have an appreciation for it now where I
actually do enjoy it and the kind of mindset I go into with
it is I'm grateful for the fact that I can feel the sensation
of the cold and the discomfort because our time on this planet
in this lifetime is limited and someday I'll die and I won't be
able to feel that anymore. So the fact that I could wake up
and take that cold shower and feel that sensation, I'm
grateful for it and it also gives appreciation for at the
end of my shower when I do flip it to the warm water and I get
that satisfaction of okay then back in that comfort zone of
you know kind of getting myself ready to go about my day and
I've already had that quick kind of wake up. So it's
that's the reward to kind of the duration of my discomfort.
I think it's similar in life. I love it. I appreciate it.
It's and that's all beautiful perspectives on that. Now I do
have a challenge for this quote though. It's a quote that I've
ignored for a while. I hear more and more people using it
these days though but I don't I want to fact check it. How we
do it. One thing is how we do everything. What is the source
of that meme? I'm gonna call it a meme because I don't know of
a proactive and here's why. I'm not a big fan of hyperbole.
You know it's one of the fastest ways to lose an argument
is to say everything or to say never. Right when you use a
hyperbolic statement, it's like it's so easy to find a an
exception to that rule. So is there is there like a a
religious book of some kind that that's that quote comes
from or is it just Grant Cardone trying to force people
to believe what he says? Yeah, I don't know. I mean to call him
out. Origin itself and it's funny that you say that because
I actually use that phrase in the way I articulate what I do
for my business and I do actually phrase it slightly
different where I say how we do one thing is how we do most
things not everything that would be less limiting the
definitive statement that right then the argument is less
valid but for me in the way that I'm using it, it's it's
deriving from our subconscious right. So we have a tendency to
do things a certain way which will creep out when we're not
conscious and so that is the limitation when you say
everything. There's some things I am more conscious of where
it's like I don't mind leaning into the discomfort of this one
aspect of my life more so maybe than another area and so the
cold showers could help in that regard, but it doesn't mean
it's gonna support in the area. I'm already strong in it may
support in the areas I'm weaker in and so I agree with you in
the sense that you know, it's it's not this definitive
statement that can be used in all areas, but there is some
truth to it where we have a tendency and habit, especially
in our subconscious to gravitate towards a certain
outcome. Right. I find that the the some truth factor in in
most things is is dangerous territory and that's why I'm
glad you shifted the quote for yourself. That's why I want to
shift it for others real fast is because a lot of times we
we allow a statement like that to defeat us, you know, and
it's like oh well, then I must like you then you start
second guessing yourself and you're like oh my gosh, I'm
I don't do cold showers and now because I believe I do one
thing is how to do everything and now I just self sabotage
boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom,
rather than recognizing like hold on. Wait a second. I
don't go to sleep the same way I wake up. You know, I don't
eat the same way I drink. You know, I don't I don't show up
with my kids the same way I show up with my clients per se
and in some aspects, right? There's perspectives. Do I get
my best in both? Yes. But do I show up and use sillier
language with my young children? You know, compared to
the way that I talk to my clients. Absolutely. So there's
that there's that healthy perspective. There's that
self intuition that we all need as well and and if we can
build our intuitive muscles to a stronger capacity, we become
protected when we hear half truths. You know, if the half
truth is a route to Starbucks and you live near the Grand
Canyon and it's on the other side of the Grand Canyon, but
the other half of the truth is telling you to just drive your
drive your car straight across the canyon. You're going to
die. You need the full truth of how to get there, not not the
half of it and the same is often true and the lessons we
learn in life but it again, maybe maybe that's the cold
showers. Why I'm not Jeff Bezos yet. I'll I'll meditate on it.
No, I appreciate it, Jeff. It's it's really helpful. So if we
can take one more minute, any final thoughts on either
self mastery, limiting limiting but limiting belief if I can
say it or self sabotage.
One thing that I think is difficult to discern is when we
are self sabotaging. It's it's not something people do
intentionally and so it's interesting to you know, I have
a question on one of my calendars. So when you book time
with me, it's you know, what are ways that you self sabotage
and most most people will answer truthfully every now and
then someone will say I don't and it's interesting to hear
that right because it's like okay, well that's that's
actually self-sabotage. Right. But to to understand our ego
and ego is a defense mechanism to protect our emotional state.
Oftentimes, we have our ego kick in where it'll rationalize
or justify an action or a choice so that we're not wrong
and we've kind of put ourselves into this position of self
self-sabotage. We've kind of put ourselves into this black and
white of well being wrong is bad versus okay, it's okay to be
wrong. It just means that you learn something and if you can
distinguish okay, this is my ego coming up and making an
excuse or making a reason or justification for me not to make
a change. That's me wanting to stay in my comfort zone
subconsciously versus what's the actual truth and so
what I do with some of the work is I have like a VIP session.
That's a one day intensive eight hour deep dive. I offer
the option for my clients to utilize psilocybin in a
microdose and the psilocybin supports with the removing ego.
So we're not saying well, I did this because you did that I
said this because you said that it's I did this because I was
feeling insecure. I said that because I was hurt there was
the removal of the ego. We're not making up the reason of
the justification to not admit what may be hard to face and so
that's one area where it's a little bit more complex, but
it's a good I'm glad you brought it up. Well, that's
that's our that's the territory we face. I am going to I'm
going to be so sad for all the entrepreneurs who chose to skip
this because it's elementary right who chose to see this and
say oh you know what this I've already heard this I've already
I already know how to overcome my limiting beliefs and
self-sufficiency 96% of businesses fell within 10 years.
4% survive very very few thrive and and it's typically
because of limiting beliefs. It's typically because of an
arrogance or an ignorance or a self-doubt or a you know an
overconfidence there. There's so many factors and it almost
always comes down to the mindset of the leader and their
inability to get past these the things they can't see that
they're that they're subjecting themselves to. I got a team
that holds me accountable. I got a mom who holds me
accountable. I got sisters who hold me like people who are
like whoa like if I want if I need a check, you know I go to
those people run an idea by them and they're like nope.
Here's why you know or like yep. No, it looks great, but I
I if I allow my ego to get in the way of conversations like
this and I don't put people in my life like you Jeff. Then I
will I will end up very short-sighted on what my
possibilities can be and I will end up shrinking my ability to
have a greater sphere of influence. So I believe in I
love what you do those of you listening and especially
entrepreneurs be aware that you you know if you're if you're
dismissing this conversation as one that may not be
applicable to you, you're the exact type of person who needs
to be talking to somebody like Jeff. So check out the landing
page. You'll see his links in there. If you have a vision to
share come on board come share with us. I know there will be a
link on there to apply as well. If you have a question or
comment you'd like to make a contribution to the show, of
course, leave those in the show notes and Jeff, thank you for
being here today, man. This was awesome. It's been a pleasure
Jackson. Thank you so much for having me and a shout out to
Vicki for introducing us. That's right Vicki. Thank you for
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