1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,920 photography. So yeah, I've been a nice. Yeah. What's happened 2 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:12,360 photography? I did a lot of product shots for I used to work 3 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:16,360 in collaboration with a knife company. And that was pretty 4 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:19,200 cool. So Cold Steel knives kind of contracted me where they 5 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,840 would send me products. And then I would shoot with their items. 6 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:26,000 And then I got to keep everything they sent me. And 7 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:29,160 then that turned into I started to work for a firearms company. 8 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:33,120 And while I was over there, we I was, you know, taking product 9 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,040 shots in house and then I was getting I was able to buy 10 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:39,440 everything that I wanted at cost. So that was fun. And that was a 11 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:43,520 cool job. And then I started to dabble with like model and 12 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,680 badure, boob board, I still can't say that word, bode or 13 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:53,120 shoots with those props as kind of the focus. So there's a lot 14 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:56,760 of cool content that I was able to create. I can't say or write 15 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:02,520 that word. That's there. You can do some really cool macro and 16 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:08,520 micro photography stuff. Yeah, with knives and firearms. That 17 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,240 was probably fun. Yeah, it's a pretty cool shots that were 18 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:14,160 featured in there's a magazine called like recoil. It's like a 19 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,680 firearm magazine. And so they did like a web article on some 20 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:21,840 of my shots. And yeah, this is a fun time. But there wasn't a 21 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:25,040 whole lot of money to be made in the way that I was approaching 22 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:30,560 it. I think that yeah, I didn't have a whole wrap around like 23 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,200 the business sense of how to market as a photographer. So 24 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:35,880 it's a skill set that I've definitely used in every 25 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:40,000 business that I've been a part of. Yeah, it wasn't the I love 26 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:43,920 how you said that too. You said, you said there's not a lot of 27 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:47,400 money to be made. In the way I was doing that. There's a lot of 28 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:50,400 wisdom. And what you just did there. It showed me that while 29 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:52,960 you really do work on eliminating, eliminating 30 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:56,200 eliminating beliefs, you know, and the, not even just a self 31 00:01:56,200 --> 00:02:00,000 sabotage, sabotaging of experience. If you do get back 32 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,920 into the photography game ever, Josh Rossi, full time 33 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:06,240 photographer, full time photographer.com that dude is a 34 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:11,320 champ. And has Yeah, he's he's legit. There's a lot of reasons 35 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:15,320 why I know that. But all these skill sets you talked about all 36 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:18,680 this entrepreneurial like I'm like, holy crap. That means 37 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:23,360 you've got you've got a huge foundation for e commerce for 38 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:27,560 marketing for branding for market analysis for physical 39 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:31,440 product for service like do your depth. 40 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,280 It was it's been really cool because I used to see it as a 41 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,800 weakness, right? Like, damn, I tried all these things and it 42 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,480 didn't work out and this and that but then I realized that it 43 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:46,000 gave me a lot of experience and knowledge. And then that quote 44 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:50,360 right a jack of all trades is a master of none. And what I 45 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:52,720 learned later in life was the second half of that quote, the 46 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:56,600 second half of the quote is a master of none, but oftentimes 47 00:02:56,600 --> 00:03:01,480 better than a master of one. And so I've utilized that to my 48 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:03,600 advantage where it's like, yeah, taking all of those and kind of 49 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,840 combining it into anything I put my energy into today. 50 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:11,680 Dude, I love it. Okay. You nailed you nailed a fantastic 51 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:15,080 quote. What are three of your favorite self development books 52 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:18,600 or courses? Let's not throw the courses out the window here. 53 00:03:18,640 --> 00:03:22,280 Those are those are becoming, I think in many times even better 54 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:22,880 than books. 55 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:28,000 Okay. The first one's title I'm going to censor a little bit. So 56 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:34,880 it's the un F you star K yourself. That is one of my 57 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:36,000 absolute favorite books. 58 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,560 I'm F yourself. Yeah. Got it. 59 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:43,280 Pull it up real quick. It is by the number to go the F to sleep. 60 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:49,720 No, it's by Gary Brown Bishop. Okay, favorite self development 61 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:55,480 book. Program I would say there is a leadership development 62 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:57,920 program that I've graduated from. It's known as the Atlas 63 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:01,880 project. That is that's been transformational in my life and 64 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:06,400 with my family and everything else that I do. And then my 65 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:07,240 business coach. 66 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:11,400 All right. Welcome in to vision pros live with Jackson Calame. 67 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,200 I'm your show host. We'll be doing interviews for visionary 68 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,800 entrepreneurs and guest leaders who are building fantastic 69 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:18,560 visions out there. 70 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,160 Hey, what's up and welcome into vision pros live. I'm your show 71 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:33,640 host Jackson Calame, founder and CEO of first class business. 72 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,840 I'm excited to have Jeff Sarah on me today. We're going to be 73 00:04:36,840 --> 00:04:40,240 talking about self mastery and eliminating limiting beliefs 74 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,720 and the effects of self sabotage and how we go about doing that 75 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:48,280 oftentimes without even realizing it. And before we go 76 00:04:48,280 --> 00:04:52,160 into into Jeff story and dive more into his depth of you miss 77 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,720 the beginning. You want to go back and hear that and and maybe 78 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,120 look up his profile too and just see that the depth he's come 79 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:02,200 from. He's been he's he's experienced a lot of things and 80 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:06,040 he's been he's he's explored life to an extreme degree. And 81 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:10,720 there's there's a fantastic there's a fantastic balance that 82 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:14,360 comes from people who end up doing that who aren't just 83 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:17,440 isolated in a one lane. No offense to any of you guys who 84 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,400 are out there and are isolated and become champions in one 85 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:24,200 specific category. But there's there's a different wisdom that 86 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:27,800 comes out of the experience of trying many different paths. So 87 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,440 we'll get to hear about that a little more from as well. Before 88 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:34,320 we dive into Jeff's story from his own mouth though I want to 89 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:36,920 talk about these sponsors. I was just on the phone with Patrick 90 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:40,640 Creighton of laid back languages and helping him develop a new 91 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:45,080 strategy for for outreach with some of the potential market 92 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,160 that could work with him. He teaches people how to learn 93 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,840 languages. He knows six different languages that he's 94 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:56,600 able to help people master. And I have seen that he practices 95 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,800 the principles of language really from my own firsthand 96 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,800 experience. I learned Spanish in four and a half months I was 97 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:06,920 fluent and I didn't know it at the time. It took me about 18 98 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:11,680 months before I realized well like I really got to the point 99 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:15,040 of of being able to dominate this language and communicate 100 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:18,280 well at the four and a half month point. One of the biggest 101 00:06:18,280 --> 00:06:21,880 secrets to language learning is confidence. You master 102 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,520 confidence and you get yourself in a position to where you're 103 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,760 you're not scared to do things like a river there G like like 104 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,600 talk like it's not you and find your own personality different 105 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:34,600 language like whoa you can you can really learn fast. So that's 106 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,840 one of his big secrets. But there's of course more to it 107 00:06:37,840 --> 00:06:40,480 than that. And the same principles he practiced were the 108 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,520 ones I practice to get my Spanish down not that even 109 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,560 though I just spoke in Italian. All right. The tail publishing. 110 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:51,440 So detail publishing is what I would consider the best 111 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:54,160 resource you can go to if you're in the process of launching a 112 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,280 book or you're in a situation where you need content 113 00:06:57,280 --> 00:07:00,840 marketing strategy handled by an outsourced team. Ashley is one 114 00:07:00,840 --> 00:07:04,400 of the best people on the planet in my opinion. Not that I 115 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:08,720 typically rank people. We're all important. We're all great. But 116 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,160 she is one of my absolute favorite people on earth and 117 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,760 she is extremely good at research and development. She's 118 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:18,400 taking on some manuscript review processes for some of the top 119 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,840 publishing companies out there right now to she ran a great 120 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:27,880 retreat last year for book writers and you know what times 121 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:30,800 going fast. It was two novembers ago that we did that retreat. 122 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:35,800 And when it comes to publishing she's published for Nomad 123 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:39,480 Capitalist all the 2000 articles you'd find on that. And then in 124 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:43,680 addition to that Wallace the Westie a book about a puppy 125 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,840 that a little girl gets for Christmas the ability to 126 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:51,320 harmonize and understand how to speak to children let alone 127 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:53,800 also how to speak to billionaires and 128 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:57,440 multimillion dollar investment firms things like that. That's 129 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:00,840 that just blows my mind her ability to understand what the 130 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:05,880 market needs and speak in a variety of different levels to 131 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,840 individuals. She's she's a godsend for anybody looking to 132 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:11,680 establish their legacy and publish their books. Then 133 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,600 there's the water project. If you're in a position right now 134 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:18,280 where you can give back this is a great resource and opportunity 135 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:22,680 to help millions of people who are in need of getting the very 136 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,080 essentials of life. They don't have access to clean drinking 137 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,800 water. A lot of these communities in Africa their kids 138 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,560 have to leave school. Mom and dad have to miss work just to go 139 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:34,520 find water that may not be sanitary for their family needs. 140 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,120 We have the opportunity to give back. Now if you don't have the 141 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,920 financial capacity of back our request is to share this with 142 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:44,240 other people. One you could tag somebody specifically who might 143 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:48,160 have an interest in projects like this. You could share this 144 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:51,200 with with your own Facebook group or on your own Facebook 145 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:54,520 page. You never know what type of impact can come from just 146 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:57,280 sharing the word spreading the word about opportunities like 147 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:00,760 that. And if you have a cause that you'd rather see supported 148 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:03,560 and just drop it in the comments. We're happy to take a 149 00:09:03,560 --> 00:09:07,040 look too and see what we can do to support the initiatives that 150 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,480 that you'd like to see support. There's eight billion people in 151 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,520 this world to help. And those of us with a microphone have a 152 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,280 great opportunity to make impact. And those of us who are 153 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:19,120 listening again also have an amazing opportunity to impact. 154 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,320 And if you want to do for selfish reasons just know that 155 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,440 by sharing that you're going to get what's called clean energy. 156 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:29,760 It's going to fuel your soul and you may not feel an instant 157 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:33,120 dose of like wow I feel amazing. My life's changed because I 158 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:36,920 shared this link. But like a daily vitamin it can do a lot of 159 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:40,160 good for you to look out for others and help others in any 160 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:44,000 way that you can. Without further ado Jeff Sarah thank you 161 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:45,840 for joining us in Vision Pros Live man. I'm happy to have 162 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,200 you here. Yeah thanks for having me. It's a pleasure to be 163 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,800 here. Absolutely. So self-development sensei, 164 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:55,080 Reiki practitioner. Let's talk about the sensei thing first. 165 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:59,600 So what is a sensei for those who don't know and how do you 166 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:04,160 qualify to be one? A sensei is really a teacher or a master. 167 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:08,080 So someone who has experience or skill set in a specific area. 168 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,880 And so as I was kind of going through my journey starting out 169 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:16,120 as a life coach I realized and recognized that I wanted to 170 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:21,200 really kind of develop the focus of what I was doing rather than 171 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,560 the broader sense of just you know coaching in general. And I 172 00:10:24,560 --> 00:10:27,560 realized that self-development is really an area that I put a 173 00:10:27,560 --> 00:10:33,320 lot of heavy focus into myself because of the mindset that I 174 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:37,560 had and adapted growing up was very much a victim mentality and 175 00:10:37,560 --> 00:10:40,560 looking external and blaming circumstances and situations 176 00:10:40,560 --> 00:10:44,920 around me. And then once I kind of noticed and saw that I'm in 177 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,400 control of all that and it really stems from the 178 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,640 self-development and everything self-related right. So 179 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:55,520 self-confidence, self-care, self-love, self-sabotage, 180 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:59,280 self-limitations, all these things are we're responsible for 181 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:02,960 it. And so by making a shift internally we can then affect 182 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:06,240 our external world. And so that's really kind of where the 183 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,400 term and the title of self-development sensei came 184 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:14,360 from. I love that man and here's a big reason. So last night I 185 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:19,080 actually talked to another entrepreneur. They contacted me 186 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,080 on LinkedIn. They just happened to catch me at the right time. 187 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,560 And so I said you know what here's my zoom link. If you want 188 00:11:23,560 --> 00:11:27,880 to jump on we can jump on and they jumped on in tears. You 189 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,840 know like just you know they kind of they give me a story 190 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:35,240 where they said I feel like Maverick when Goose dies you 191 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:39,760 know and Top Gun. And so I was like let me just send a zoom 192 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:43,400 link and see what's going on. And they jump on crying and 193 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:48,480 they've done a lot of external a lot of external work. You know 194 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,360 they've done this neuroscience programming stuff. They've been 195 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:55,120 hooked up machines. They got these cool like got this ring 196 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,280 that helps them feel better blah blah blah. There's a lot of 197 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:02,000 external factors. And in the process of listening for about 198 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:06,680 30 minutes what became super clear was their language choice 199 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:13,640 was a mixture mostly of what we would call language of worrying 200 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:19,280 I can't I needs I shoulds you know like really really like 201 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:25,400 limiting perspectives on on extreme and one time they use 202 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:30,000 the word I want to write a book right where they gave themselves 203 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:35,200 liberty and freedom to choose something. And so I'm sorry to 204 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:39,240 steal thunder on that but just I just can't I can't voice enough 205 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:43,360 the importance that people work with somebody like you to figure 206 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:47,160 out that enter I love that you said it. It's the internal 207 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:50,440 changes that things that come out of us that come from within 208 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:54,640 if we can control those the external assets become that much 209 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,560 more powerful but they're kind of useless if we don't fix 210 00:12:57,560 --> 00:13:00,680 what's going on inside. What are your thoughts on that. Yeah 211 00:13:00,680 --> 00:13:05,120 absolutely. It's it gives us so much power and control over 212 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,640 everything in our life. And we we actually do create our 213 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,320 reality not just through like manifestation but through our 214 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:14,960 perception and perspective of things. And a lot of very much 215 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:18,280 like we were describing when you were listening to your friend as 216 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:21,960 you hear someone speak and talk it's really good insight into 217 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:27,440 their subconscious. And so that individual self talk is very 218 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,280 limiting. Right. So then they're creating this story around 219 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:33,560 what's possible or what they're capable of. And it's putting 220 00:13:33,560 --> 00:13:38,920 them into a box versus if you can correct that and point it 221 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,240 out which is what I do during a lot of my sessions is when a 222 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:44,320 client says something negative or it's an insight into their 223 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,840 subconscious will be like oh let's talk about that. Why did 224 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,480 you say that. And a lot of times we're not aware of it. It's 225 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:52,560 just it just flows out. But once you start to notice it and 226 00:13:52,560 --> 00:13:55,720 catch it you can shift that internal dialogue which then 227 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:59,080 supports your subconscious which then supports the reality that 228 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:02,040 you create. And now you're looking for opportunity rather 229 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:03,440 than blaming circumstance. 230 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:07,400 Well said man. Well said. And for the record for those 231 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:11,520 listening this was a stranger not a friend. This is this is 232 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:15,200 somebody who had never met me before. The messaging though 233 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:19,480 the the that's one of the powers of recognizing that dialogue 234 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,880 and understand the effect the dialogue can have on others is 235 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:27,120 when when I write things to people I often generate a very 236 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:32,160 strong sense of emotions from the other individual because of 237 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,920 years of practice of tapping into how do I make impact with 238 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,400 with people. How do I help people understand that they 239 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:42,360 matter to me even though we haven't even met yet. And that's 240 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:45,080 something everybody can can learn to do it's a learned 241 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:51,440 trait. I want to go back to your life coach role. So you know I'm 242 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:54,480 going to ask a leading question. Those of you who are listening 243 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:58,320 you'll know where we're going with this. There's so many 244 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:01,800 there's a lot of older life coaches out there who love to 245 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:07,160 cast shade on young life coaches and love to say you know what 246 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:10,080 the heck do you know about about life. Like how could you be a 247 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:13,880 life coach. You're 18 years old. I have my own perspective and 248 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:20,800 paradigms on that. And you know I get their point but what do 249 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:26,160 you think there's a fallacy with that mindset and why. That's 250 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:30,280 absolutely a limiting belief. Right. The fact that you can't 251 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:35,000 learn from someone younger than you. Age is nothing but a 252 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:38,720 number. And there will be people in this lifetime that will pass 253 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:42,760 away and they haven't lived a day in their life. And so on the 254 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,640 flip side of that there are people that are even younger 255 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:50,200 than I am that have much more life experience than I do. And 256 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,920 so to say just because our age is different means I can't 257 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:56,040 learn anything from you would be self-sabotage. It would be 258 00:15:56,040 --> 00:16:00,240 limiting me to only looking at individuals that are older than 259 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:04,640 me to learn something. And one of the most interesting or 260 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:09,880 impactful kind of things in my life around this has been the 261 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:13,960 relationship I have with my dad. So growing up you know it was 262 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:17,240 always he would teach me things and it was kind of a one way 263 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:20,400 street. It was like you know when I was a kid it was his way 264 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:23,480 or kind of like the highway right. It's you know do things 265 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:26,240 this way while you're under my roof. Okay that makes sense. And 266 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:30,680 then as I've gotten older and we've kind of leveled out in 267 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:34,440 terms of the way that we talk to each other it's actually flipped 268 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:38,000 where he understands the work that I do. And he was actually 269 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:41,160 one of my first kind of trial clients. He and I did a lot of 270 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:43,200 work together when as I was stepping into this work where 271 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,800 he's like okay like let's let's kind of try this out and walk me 272 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,400 through what you've created. And we did a lot of sessions 273 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:52,800 together and he's like oh wow like I can learn a lot from you 274 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:55,640 and it was kind of this this pivotal moment for him to 275 00:16:55,640 --> 00:17:00,320 realize that you know somebody that he raised is now teaching 276 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,480 him something. And so in the same way right there's there's 277 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:05,600 so many other people that you know a good amount of my 278 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:08,480 clients are actually older than me. And I found that to be 279 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:12,800 interesting where you know it is this interesting dynamic of age 280 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:16,480 doesn't matter and it doesn't mean that a person has more or 281 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:18,720 less knowledge it just means it's different it's unique and 282 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:20,680 it could be a new perspective that you may not have. 283 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:26,720 Absolutely and I love that. I hope more people I think a lot 284 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:30,200 of times it's a life coach who feels like they're losing 285 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:32,600 control of their market. It doesn't understand their own 286 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:37,560 value wants to utilize that to crush you know a portion of the 287 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:40,600 market so there's less competition. I think that's where 288 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:42,920 a lot of that limiting belief comes from from people who try 289 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:46,320 to you know when you when you sell a hammer everything looks 290 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:49,480 like a nail. You know and so you want it you want to get your 291 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,320 stuff sold. It's one way to do it is fight against the market 292 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:54,840 that's what they train you to do and marketing to it's crazy. 293 00:17:55,760 --> 00:18:01,240 But anyway digressing a little bit back to your point. I was a 294 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:05,040 19 year old missionary you know speaking a foreign language 295 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,280 talking to 80 year old atheists about why they should believe 296 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:12,840 in God. To great effect you know and a lot of that had to 297 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:16,040 do with my own personal conviction and background. Then 298 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:20,640 I became a father. Right. My first child. Oh my goodness. What 299 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:24,000 a depth of wisdom and knowledge that she was born with and 300 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:30,200 granted me with. And so on one side I learned so much just from 301 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:32,640 watching her and studying her and how she viewed the world and 302 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:36,320 how she she took things in. And I thought I was a perfect 303 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:41,240 parent. Child number two taught me I sucked at parenting. I 304 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:44,440 realized I didn't know anything about what I was doing. Glad I 305 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:49,120 didn't write the book on that. And once I acknowledge that 306 00:18:49,120 --> 00:18:51,520 because it's like I was the guinea pig. Right. You learn 307 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:55,400 for the second child how to do things a little better. Yeah. 308 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:58,560 Well you know my second comes out and he is a son and like the 309 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:02,160 kids in Alpha. He wanted to do his own thing and I was like 310 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:05,520 dang it. I had one child that listened perfectly one child who 311 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:09,320 seems not to listen at all. But as I dove into paradigm you 312 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:11,680 know and started to think through like what's he teaching 313 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,200 me. What am I supposed to learn from this. I don't know. He 314 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:19,440 listened but he also had an independence about him in a way 315 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:24,360 he explored the world that again opened my eyes. So there is no 316 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:29,320 there is no limit to age or certification for life coach. You 317 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:32,440 know you you either dedicate yourself to that process and love 318 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:35,520 to help people or I guess you don't. Let's talk about your 319 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:39,280 vision for those that you serve. So overcoming self sabotage 320 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:42,400 overcoming limiting beliefs moving into self mastery on the 321 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:46,480 vision side of self mastery. What's life look like for those 322 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:51,640 you serve upon arrival. You said on the vision side of self 323 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:55,080 mastery. Yeah. So a lot of people will talk about the 324 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:59,200 journey of getting there. But what's the destination look and 325 00:19:59,200 --> 00:19:59,760 feel like. 326 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:06,960 The the shift between the first day I work with one of my 327 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:11,200 clients to kind of when we come to the close or kind of when we 328 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:15,960 reach a certain point. There's there's this amazing kind of 329 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:24,240 spark where I'm not having to adjust and point out their 330 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,760 vocabulary. It's like they catch it themselves and they're 331 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:30,000 noticing. Oh yeah. Like I said that in a negative way. Let me 332 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:35,680 rephrase that. Or what are not not like the limiting belief or 333 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,520 the self limitation of like oh I can't afford that. It's how can 334 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:42,920 I afford that. So this shift in perspective around anything is 335 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:46,240 possible and that they're capable of so much more than 336 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,640 when we start working together where it's you know a lot of 337 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,840 confusion or doubt when we first started like yeah I don't I 338 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,760 don't know. I have no idea. Like I'm not sure. I'm here hoping 339 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,440 you can tell me. And then as we work together they realize 340 00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,520 there's very little that I actually tell them and that it's 341 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:04,560 all coming from within. So that really empowering the individual 342 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:08,200 to be able to realize and recognize their own power and 343 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:12,040 potential. That's really the vision to really have people 344 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:18,400 tap into what's always been there. Oh I love it. OK. So I 345 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,040 want to we're in a trial by fire. We're going to test and 346 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:24,720 I've never done this in the podcast for but it's good. So 347 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:30,080 let's do this Jeff. I'm going to give some statements and and I 348 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,520 love for you to play the vocabulary game with me. Oh 349 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:39,000 OK. Helping shift the statements to a new mindset. So I have to 350 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:46,960 run to this meeting. What would happen if you did it. OK. I 351 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:53,680 don't know. Maybe maybe I get fired. OK. So we always have a 352 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:59,040 choice. Now what's the worst that happens if you don't go to 353 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:05,200 your meeting. The again maybe maybe I get fired. OK. Yeah. Oh 354 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:09,280 I mean is it the end of the world if you get fired. No it's 355 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:18,800 not. Yeah. So do you have to go. I guess I don't have to go. So 356 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:22,160 if I wanted to shift my language what would be the more healthy 357 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:26,720 way of looking at perspective. Rather than have it would be 358 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:31,440 get to go right. I get to. Good. OK. Yeah. That's what I use 359 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:35,560 to grab it. Have a meeting. It means that right. There's a 360 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:39,280 purpose and a point and it's part of whatever you're up to. 361 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,520 It's an opportunity some shape or form. But if you're looking 362 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:46,200 at is oh I have to go do this thing. Your perspective going in 363 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,160 is what are you going to get out of it. It's more of. So here we 364 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,960 go on the next one. I need I need to get this project done 365 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:59,120 right now. OK. What's the healthy healthy alternative. 366 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:05,120 Same thing I get to. I get you get to stick to a commitment and 367 00:23:05,120 --> 00:23:08,920 reach a deadline right and build both self trust and trust with 368 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:14,240 whoever you're delivering that to. Yep. Absolutely. You know I 369 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:21,360 should I should do this. I mean my coach told me I should do 370 00:23:21,360 --> 00:23:27,040 this marketing plan rather than should because then that makes 371 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:30,640 it an external thing right. Like what society or someone else is 372 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:35,600 telling you to. It's I choose to or I get to. Right. What like 373 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,480 are you actively choosing to do the thing or are you just 374 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:42,040 listening to someone else without knowing why. Yeah. Very 375 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,320 good. Thanks for going through that with me a little bit again 376 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,800 those who are listening in these subtle changes these subtle 377 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,360 adjustments. I think this is especially hard if you're 378 00:23:50,360 --> 00:23:53,360 learning in a foreign language. This is super hard for me in 379 00:23:53,360 --> 00:23:59,760 Spanish still. For instance the the shoulds woulds coulds. Those 380 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:04,160 words matter tremendously from a healthy dialogue standpoint. And 381 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:08,120 so most of the time when I find myself saying I should I remind 382 00:24:08,120 --> 00:24:12,760 myself I could write again back to another one one more of them. 383 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:17,200 You know I there's no way I can afford to do that right now. You 384 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,400 know I can't I don't have the money. I can't I can't possibly 385 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:27,000 invest more time or money in that. Yeah. How how can I afford 386 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:31,120 this. What do I get to do in order to be able to afford this 387 00:24:31,120 --> 00:24:34,800 and it doesn't have a negative impact on. That's right. How can 388 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:38,000 I make the time. We become victims of our own life 389 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:42,360 circumstances. We put ourselves in a jar of limiting beliefs 390 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:46,360 that we can't can't see past because or that we refuse to see 391 00:24:46,360 --> 00:24:50,680 past because who knows what's going on inside. I guess Jeff 392 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:54,040 knows. So it would be important to work with them. Jeff what's 393 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:59,880 your vision for yourself. Vision for myself is to something 394 00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:03,560 interesting you said during the very beginning and talking about 395 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,640 the language and the cultures that you were able to really 396 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:11,400 pick up and learn really quickly was confidence. And growing up. 397 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,120 So I'm Japanese American and I've taken intro to Japanese 398 00:25:15,120 --> 00:25:19,000 about four times. The reason for that is because I failed three. 399 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:24,200 And I realized like I used to think like I have a language 400 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,800 learning disability like what's going on here. How come I can't 401 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:31,320 pick up and adapt to the language. And it clicked while 402 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:35,040 you were sharing that it was a lack of confidence. One hundred 403 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,480 percent it was that was the limitation that I put on myself. 404 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:43,960 So my vision is to to really learn and become fluent in 405 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,840 Japanese so that the work I'm doing here I can bring back to 406 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,920 Japan. There are coaches in Japan but they're all business 407 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:56,720 coaches and the focus is heavily on career which is actually part 408 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,680 of the problem. The mental health in Japan is suffering 409 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,680 because of the high stress environments in the corporate 410 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:06,600 world and people aren't taught to take care of themselves or 411 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:10,480 prioritize their own needs. It's all about what's good for the 412 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:14,000 collective good or what's what's best for the collective good. 413 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,840 What's best for your company. What's best for your family. 414 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,080 But everyone then ends up pouring from an empty cup. And 415 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,080 while that's a beautiful sentiment and when everyone is 416 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,960 operating in that way it does work it does create this 417 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:30,640 yearning for self care. And people don't realize that that's 418 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,640 an option in Japan. And so that's something I definitely 419 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,640 want to kind of transition and bring over there where growing 420 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:39,720 up here I had a mix of Western influence and culture as well as 421 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:43,200 the Japanese mentality. And so I've kind of taken the best of 422 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,600 both worlds and combined them into a healthy balance of 423 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,800 understanding. Yeah it's great to be considerate of others but 424 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,840 there's that threshold of you don't want it to be detrimental 425 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,600 to yourself. And so that's really my vision is to be able 426 00:26:56,600 --> 00:27:00,880 to connect the work I'm doing here in the U.S. back to Japan. 427 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:05,040 That's beautiful and amazing. And you're right. Your language 428 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:09,680 learning capacity has will be completely different this time 429 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,840 around because of that continued development of confidence through 430 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:18,080 self mastery. To be clear for people too when I first tried to 431 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:22,240 learn Spanish tried to I went to Spanish one and Spanish two in 432 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,520 high school but I had no desire to learn it. In fact I sat next 433 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:29,760 to Jesus on purpose and Jesus hooked me up man. That dude 434 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,200 helped me get through everything. I know it was called 435 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,040 cheating back then but I was just way early to the game of 436 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:41,200 collaboration. And so I made it through those. I made it through 437 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:45,120 Spanish one and Spanish two. Got to college took Spanish one 438 00:27:45,120 --> 00:27:49,040 again and found out there's this thing called conjugation which 439 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:53,600 is pretty much the basis of passing one and two. So the fact 440 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,240 that I didn't learn that until the third time tells you how 441 00:27:56,240 --> 00:28:02,160 much Jesus helped me. So that said it was and I did not I 442 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,160 would have never had the confidence. What gave me the 443 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,920 confidence was receiving my mission call. Being called by 444 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,600 God to serve in Uruguay. You know like that that you know 445 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,560 whether you believe that's true or not doesn't matter for you. 446 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:20,480 The fact that I believed it. That helped me go in and study 447 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,600 like crazy and put my disciplines in place knowing 448 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:27,040 that that's what my purpose and mission was to figure out. So 449 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,120 you know if any of you are listening in you know feel 450 00:28:31,120 --> 00:28:34,560 inspired by the fact that we've got these massive callings. 451 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,760 Yours is right there too waiting for you to figure out. 452 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,800 So let's dive into a dark subject real fast. What's your 453 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:44,240 worst leadership experience ever? And this could be yours 454 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,120 this could be one you've seen on TV. What does that look like 455 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:51,680 to you? Worst leadership experience in terms of like 456 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:56,480 leadership that I was underneath or that I was in charge of. 457 00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:02,480 Could be either your choice. So before I stepped into fully 458 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,520 committing to being an entrepreneur I worked for eight 459 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:11,040 years in web security. Now during this time I worked 460 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:17,440 graveyard shift and there was maybe three of us on that on 461 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,560 that shift. The rest of the company was all during the day 462 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:26,160 and then we had an office in Belfast Ireland. And I had 463 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,600 noticed that there were things that could be improved on and 464 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,920 that weren't working and that a lot of my team was complaining 465 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:36,560 about. So I found some solutions and then I put it 466 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,760 together into a PowerPoint presentation. And then I went to 467 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:45,760 my manager and presented that and he was furious. He went to 468 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:51,600 HR and reported me for insubordination. I was like how 469 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,720 is this insubordination? And I think he saw it as like an 470 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,600 attack on his position and like so you don't like what I'm 471 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,080 doing or there's other things. And it was like yeah, well I 472 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,120 don't think you have the perspective of how it affects 473 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,800 what we do. And so I had to go and I had to sit and talk with 474 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,680 HR and all these things. And what really, really bothered 475 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:13,360 me was maybe a year or two later just about everything that 476 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,520 I had presented on that PowerPoint presentation was 477 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:19,440 implemented. And it was under a change of leadership. He had 478 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,360 shifted to another role or left the company and someone else 479 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,240 came in and all those things were implemented. I'm like I 480 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,760 presented this in a literal PowerPoint at some point and you 481 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,960 guys said no and now we're doing it. It's like okay so that 482 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,080 was probably my worst experience with leadership that 483 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:35,840 create a lot of resistance. And I'm like yeah, I don't like 484 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:39,520 working for someone else, especially when I can think of 485 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,320 a better way to do something and then I'm punished for it. 486 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:46,000 Right. It can be one of the most disappointing forms of 487 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:51,120 validation, can't it? Yeah. It's like I had this right and now 488 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,800 I'm not being recognized and it's challenging. However, it 489 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,240 serves you from a point of validating that you were on 490 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:03,040 point and in the future you'll remain on point again but with 491 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:07,120 more confidence that that solution works. I was fired by 492 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:14,000 Lifetime Fitness. I was fired by the CEO actually. And yeah. And 493 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:18,320 so not to see your thunder or dive into your episode too far 494 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,280 but I had written an email back to the company. They had 495 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:25,280 talked about somebody being great in the child care 496 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,720 facility and they wrote a great piece on him. And I didn't 497 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:33,120 reply. I didn't know reply. All went company-wide. Like who 498 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:37,600 the heck has a system set up like that? You know, for a 499 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,240 publicly traded company. And I said I hope you guys have the 500 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:47,280 balls to raise his pay or reward him for what he did. And 501 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:52,800 you guys should make a video about this for the club. I 502 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,520 think it would do awesome. Anyway, the whole company 503 00:31:55,520 --> 00:32:01,280 received my email. I did not mean to do that. Nonetheless, I 504 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,720 already had my two weeks in at the time. So my boss calls me 505 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,880 the next day. He's like Jackson, what did you do? He's like 506 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:10,800 this is not you. Why did you do this? He's like look, we don't 507 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,280 want to stick our necks out for you because you got your two 508 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:17,440 weeks in. Are you cool wrapping up today? I was like I don't 509 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:22,560 have to do my two weeks. Sure. But nonetheless, I walk into 510 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,840 the club six months later on my free membership that I still 511 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:32,080 had as an employee. And they've done a video on him. They've 512 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,800 done a club promotion about this guy and how awesome he is. 513 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:38,480 And I'm like, that was mine. And I was mad at first. I was like, 514 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:40,960 dude, they totally took my idea after firing me. 515 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:47,360 I forced their in my case. So I had forced their hand. I made 516 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:52,000 everybody's call that email. But they used it and they turned 517 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,760 it and if I were Brahmacrati, I believe that was the name of the 518 00:32:55,760 --> 00:33:00,800 CEO at the time, the founder, I would have fired me too. I 519 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,560 would have had to do that for the control of the environment, 520 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,840 make sure other salespeople don't do what Jackson did. So if 521 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:11,760 I ever get a meeting, I'll shake his hand about it. But maybe 522 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:16,320 that was a combination of my worst leadership as a follower, 523 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,640 it's kind of stepping outside my bounds. But that same effect, 524 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:26,960 right? It's the concept ends up being validated. But we learn 525 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:31,680 and maybe we use it again in the future. So what's your best 526 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:32,880 leadership experience look like? 527 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:37,200 Best leadership experience. I'm trying to think of an example, 528 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:43,200 but the concept of somebody in a leadership position, being 529 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:48,400 right there next to the people that are doing the work to have 530 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,240 a clear understanding of any pain points that are possible. 531 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,760 Let me guide you towards the story too, though. You think 532 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,200 through that for a minute, but early on, you were talking about 533 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,760 three of your top resources, and one of them was your business 534 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:07,040 coach. So if you have any stories about your business 535 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,360 coach as well, this might be an appropriate time to bring that 536 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:09,860 up. 537 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:14,560 Yeah, so Sajad Hussain with Cause and Effect. That's my 538 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:20,240 business coach, and he practices what he preaches. So he 539 00:34:20,240 --> 00:34:25,520 understands the pain points, right? So I think that is a 540 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,720 great example of the leadership where it's, you know, the 541 00:34:28,720 --> 00:34:32,160 great example of the leadership where it's, you know, if 542 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,200 you're going to be telling and supporting others with advice, 543 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:40,640 you should be, you know, doing it as well. And so he has a 544 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:44,960 very, very thought out, meticulous structure to his 545 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:48,160 program and his process for six weeks, that if you follow it 546 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:52,320 to the tee, it creates amazing results. And that was the case 547 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,360 for my business where it completely flipped how I was 548 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:59,200 operating and how I did things. I more than doubled my prices 549 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,960 and created more revenue probably the two months after 550 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,600 graduating from his program than I had the two years prior 551 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:09,920 operating on my own. And again, it was, you know, he's telling 552 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,960 me to do these things. And for somebody as you're watching, if 553 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,360 you're just like, oh, like, you're saying it, but I've 554 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,640 seen you not do it, right? Like, if you if you go to a gym, and 555 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,440 your trainer is overweight as well, it's like, why am I going 556 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,880 to listen to you? Right? So similar to that, where it's like, 557 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,600 if you're watching this individual practice what they 558 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,680 preach, and it's creating results, and then you start to 559 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,960 see it for yourself, it's a great example of leadership of, 560 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,400 you know, living and breathing the very thing that you're 561 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:40,320 trying to support others with. And so in the same way, I have 562 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,120 to hold myself to this higher standard, which is great 563 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,720 accountability for what I support my clients with. And I 564 00:35:46,720 --> 00:35:49,840 feel like it's the same for any leadership position where if 565 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:53,120 you're wanting your subordinates or anyone you're 566 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,480 working with to do the thing, make sure that you're capable 567 00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:00,480 of it as well or willing to do it the same way. Okay, I got a 568 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,960 great one. So the second one that I mentioned, how do I 569 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:04,720 spell his name though, the business coach? 570 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:07,280 S A J A D. 571 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:10,480 H U S E. 572 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,120 I'm sorry, H U S A I N. 573 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,120 Okay, Sajad Hussain. 574 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:18,080 Yeah. 575 00:36:18,720 --> 00:36:22,400 Good. Okay. All right, keep going. Sorry. I gotta give some 576 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:23,600 credit to this man. 577 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,880 Yeah, yeah, absolutely. One of my favorite leadership 578 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:31,200 experiences was in that program that I mentioned, the Atlas 579 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:35,840 Project. There's a time where, you know, we're kind of setting 580 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:39,280 up an event and putting things together. And we had to kind of 581 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:46,000 hodgepodge this kind of like a dinner situation. And we didn't 582 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:50,080 have like a full kitchen venue. And we had to like really 583 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,440 we rented the dishes and everything else and brought it 584 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:58,000 into this space. But there wasn't a kitchen. So one of the 585 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:03,040 leaders, one of the people in a kind of a power position within 586 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:07,280 the organization was she was standing in the bathroom, 587 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,800 washing the dishes in the sink. And I came by and I'm like, 588 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,440 what in the world is going on? What are we doing? And it's 589 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,840 like, hey, we just got to make it work. And this is the only 590 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:19,280 solution. And I'm like, this is amazing to witness, right? Like 591 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:23,280 you're here doing the grunt work with us. This is another 592 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,240 prime example of, you know, getting into the nitty gritty 593 00:37:26,240 --> 00:37:28,640 of things and being there right alongside everybody else that 594 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,440 you're asking to support with this experience in this event. 595 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:36,320 And so again, to have that clarity and insight to be like, 596 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,760 okay, this is a problem. We'll solve this for the next time we 597 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,480 do this. But for now, this is the solution. And rather than 598 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,400 being like, hey, can you do this? It's like, no, I'm here. 599 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:48,400 I'm going to do it. And then for the next time we take that and 600 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,640 we integrate that where it's like, we need a kitchen the next 601 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:54,240 time this happens. And rather than, you know, delegating that 602 00:37:54,240 --> 00:37:56,560 to someone else to be like, oh, this job is beneath me or 603 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,120 anything like that. It was just, this is the solution and I'm 604 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,240 here and I'm capable. So I'm going to do it. That was a prime 605 00:38:02,240 --> 00:38:02,880 example for me. 606 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:09,040 I love that. There's an important balance to be had 607 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:13,040 depending on the scale of the company. I think that's a big 608 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:19,360 factor in it, but of being willing to do those tasks and 609 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:24,080 also being willing to let go of it so that you're delegating 610 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,960 appropriately, right? So that you're not getting bogged down 611 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:31,040 by the mundane work. But, you know, if you want to be a 612 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,680 business owner, right? You want to have a business owner 613 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:38,160 mentality, go clean the bathroom. You know, that's go 614 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,200 take the garbage out because that's at the end of the day, 615 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,040 you know, the business owner is going to make sure that's 616 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:46,240 done. Go make sure that that front door glass doesn't have 617 00:38:46,240 --> 00:38:49,200 fingerprints all over it. You know, so that there's a good 618 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,440 presentation for those who are coming in. Those are the types 619 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:55,280 of things that the business owner doesn't allow to go 620 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:59,120 overlooked when they have true pride and like a sense of pride 621 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,840 joy and what it is they're doing. So I think that's well 622 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:07,040 said. The powerful lesson. So if this were the last 623 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:10,480 opportunity to share a powerful lesson with other visionaries 624 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,120 so they can learn from your experience, what would that 625 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,840 lesson be? 626 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:22,400 So I'm a huge advocate for cold showers and the reason for 627 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:27,440 that is to build the mental fortitude to recognize that you 628 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:31,760 can get comfortable being uncomfortable and anytime 629 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,560 you're about to do something new, there is that moment of 630 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:38,640 hesitation, that doubt or that insecurity around can I do 631 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,560 this? I don't have the experience. I don't have the 632 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:44,240 knowledge and you have to just do it. The only way you're 633 00:39:44,240 --> 00:39:48,000 gonna get the experience and the information is by trying 634 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,800 and yeah, you may fall. Yeah, you may fail. It may not work 635 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,920 out, but you're gonna gain the experience from that to know 636 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:58,080 what will work better next time. So the number one lesson 637 00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:02,480 there is to just yeah to try things out and be okay with the 638 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:07,200 failure. I'm this is what I do now is probably my 8th 639 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,400 business. The other seven didn't pan out in the way that 640 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,360 I wanted them to, but like we were talking about earlier, 641 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:17,600 it's given me great insight and a wide range of skill sets 642 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,800 that I've combined into what I'm able to do today and so I 643 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,840 don't see those as seven failures. I see them as seven 644 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:28,640 stepping stones to where I am today. I love that at any point 645 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,920 in time at any point in time in your life, you can give up 646 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:36,880 on your dream and go back to and go back to normal. You 647 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:40,480 know and and achieve normal results and you may you may 648 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:44,640 not receive you may not achieve the same level of normal that 649 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:50,880 you could have. But it's give it's give her less, you know 650 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:55,120 give or take the same so that you'll have that opportunity, 651 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:58,800 but those like you said all those opportunities have led 652 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:02,160 you to where you are. They've given you capacities to pursue 653 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:06,080 a potential beyond what you could likely have achieved had 654 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:11,360 you had you chosen a more complacent route. So that I 655 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:15,280 think it's awesome. I hope I hope that you have that that 656 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:19,040 honorable experience of being able to see it come to 657 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:22,000 fruition the way that you want to. That would be that would 658 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:27,280 be awesome man in regards to cold showers. I will you know 659 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,920 what I'm just gonna go on the record. I freaking hate cold 660 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:34,560 showers. There's one of my limits. It's not a limiting 661 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:38,800 belief. It's one of my limits. There's probably some limiting 662 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,680 belief behind it too, but I tried and Doctor Eric Berg. 663 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:45,200 Thank you. I love him to death. Great formal formal client 664 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:49,120 while I was at video power. 11 million subscribers, maybe 12 665 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:53,840 million now he grows fast, but he he talked about cold 666 00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,800 showers too and I was finally like dang if Doctor Eric Berg 667 00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:00,400 is gonna say it. I probably need to try this thing and do 668 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:07,520 it. So I I did my cold showers for about a month and man I I 669 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:11,040 I can do it. You're right. It does teach you that you can be 670 00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,440 resilient and do things that you don't like. It can help 671 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,840 with that, but there's so many other things in life that I do 672 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:20,240 that that are uncomfortable like I don't need an extra one. I 673 00:42:20,240 --> 00:42:22,960 got I got plenty of I have anything I need to learn how to 674 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:28,000 stay in a comfort zone. So my shower is my comfort zone. Well 675 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:32,000 is that is that gonna hold me back in life Jeff? 676 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:37,520 Perspective it's it could potentially be limitations 677 00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,920 where how we do one thing is how we do everything right. So 678 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,640 there's if you're holding back there, it may be showing up in 679 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:46,720 other areas as well and there's a lot of health benefits to it 680 00:42:46,720 --> 00:42:49,360 as well right. So reducing inflammation supporting with 681 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:55,600 turning the white fats into brown fats. There's definitely 682 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,240 I think it's an endorphin release. I forget if it's endorphins 683 00:42:58,240 --> 00:43:02,240 or serotonin gets released. Well, it's probably I also 684 00:43:02,240 --> 00:43:06,560 realize and recognize that after after about the first 685 00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:10,160 month if you stick with it and you're shifting your 686 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,840 perspective, I have an appreciation for it now where I 687 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:19,680 actually do enjoy it and the kind of mindset I go into with 688 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:24,560 it is I'm grateful for the fact that I can feel the sensation 689 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:28,800 of the cold and the discomfort because our time on this planet 690 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:33,120 in this lifetime is limited and someday I'll die and I won't be 691 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,840 able to feel that anymore. So the fact that I could wake up 692 00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,400 and take that cold shower and feel that sensation, I'm 693 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:42,800 grateful for it and it also gives appreciation for at the 694 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,760 end of my shower when I do flip it to the warm water and I get 695 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:49,600 that satisfaction of okay then back in that comfort zone of 696 00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,640 you know kind of getting myself ready to go about my day and 697 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:58,800 I've already had that quick kind of wake up. So it's 698 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:05,760 that's the reward to kind of the duration of my discomfort. 699 00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:09,600 I think it's similar in life. I love it. I appreciate it. 700 00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:14,160 It's and that's all beautiful perspectives on that. Now I do 701 00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:18,080 have a challenge for this quote though. It's a quote that I've 702 00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,640 ignored for a while. I hear more and more people using it 703 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:25,920 these days though but I don't I want to fact check it. How we 704 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:30,880 do it. One thing is how we do everything. What is the source 705 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:36,400 of that meme? I'm gonna call it a meme because I don't know of 706 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:41,360 a proactive and here's why. I'm not a big fan of hyperbole. 707 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:45,360 You know it's one of the fastest ways to lose an argument 708 00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:49,360 is to say everything or to say never. Right when you use a 709 00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:54,480 hyperbolic statement, it's like it's so easy to find a an 710 00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:59,840 exception to that rule. So is there is there like a a 711 00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:03,760 religious book of some kind that that's that quote comes 712 00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,880 from or is it just Grant Cardone trying to force people 713 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:10,480 to believe what he says? Yeah, I don't know. I mean to call him 714 00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:14,480 out. Origin itself and it's funny that you say that because 715 00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:20,960 I actually use that phrase in the way I articulate what I do 716 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,680 for my business and I do actually phrase it slightly 717 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,720 different where I say how we do one thing is how we do most 718 00:45:26,720 --> 00:45:29,920 things not everything that would be less limiting the 719 00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:33,360 definitive statement that right then the argument is less 720 00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:37,840 valid but for me in the way that I'm using it, it's it's 721 00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:42,320 deriving from our subconscious right. So we have a tendency to 722 00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:46,080 do things a certain way which will creep out when we're not 723 00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,880 conscious and so that is the limitation when you say 724 00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,040 everything. There's some things I am more conscious of where 725 00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:54,800 it's like I don't mind leaning into the discomfort of this one 726 00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:58,720 aspect of my life more so maybe than another area and so the 727 00:45:58,720 --> 00:46:02,320 cold showers could help in that regard, but it doesn't mean 728 00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,800 it's gonna support in the area. I'm already strong in it may 729 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,920 support in the areas I'm weaker in and so I agree with you in 730 00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:11,200 the sense that you know, it's it's not this definitive 731 00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:15,680 statement that can be used in all areas, but there is some 732 00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,640 truth to it where we have a tendency and habit, especially 733 00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,120 in our subconscious to gravitate towards a certain 734 00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:27,840 outcome. Right. I find that the the some truth factor in in 735 00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:31,200 most things is is dangerous territory and that's why I'm 736 00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,440 glad you shifted the quote for yourself. That's why I want to 737 00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:37,120 shift it for others real fast is because a lot of times we 738 00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:40,320 we allow a statement like that to defeat us, you know, and 739 00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,400 it's like oh well, then I must like you then you start 740 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,040 second guessing yourself and you're like oh my gosh, I'm 741 00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,440 I don't do cold showers and now because I believe I do one 742 00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,160 thing is how to do everything and now I just self sabotage 743 00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:51,840 boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, 744 00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,640 rather than recognizing like hold on. Wait a second. I 745 00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,520 don't go to sleep the same way I wake up. You know, I don't 746 00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,720 eat the same way I drink. You know, I don't I don't show up 747 00:47:00,720 --> 00:47:04,640 with my kids the same way I show up with my clients per se 748 00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,200 and in some aspects, right? There's perspectives. Do I get 749 00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:11,040 my best in both? Yes. But do I show up and use sillier 750 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:14,400 language with my young children? You know, compared to 751 00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:18,160 the way that I talk to my clients. Absolutely. So there's 752 00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,640 that there's that healthy perspective. There's that 753 00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:25,600 self intuition that we all need as well and and if we can 754 00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:31,600 build our intuitive muscles to a stronger capacity, we become 755 00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:37,120 protected when we hear half truths. You know, if the half 756 00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:40,160 truth is a route to Starbucks and you live near the Grand 757 00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:43,840 Canyon and it's on the other side of the Grand Canyon, but 758 00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,400 the other half of the truth is telling you to just drive your 759 00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,600 drive your car straight across the canyon. You're going to 760 00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:53,440 die. You need the full truth of how to get there, not not the 761 00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,960 half of it and the same is often true and the lessons we 762 00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:02,320 learn in life but it again, maybe maybe that's the cold 763 00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,600 showers. Why I'm not Jeff Bezos yet. I'll I'll meditate on it. 764 00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:09,280 No, I appreciate it, Jeff. It's it's really helpful. So if we 765 00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:13,520 can take one more minute, any final thoughts on either 766 00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:17,200 self mastery, limiting limiting but limiting belief if I can 767 00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:21,760 say it or self sabotage. 768 00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:29,360 One thing that I think is difficult to discern is when we 769 00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:32,080 are self sabotaging. It's it's not something people do 770 00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:36,080 intentionally and so it's interesting to you know, I have 771 00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:39,680 a question on one of my calendars. So when you book time 772 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,560 with me, it's you know, what are ways that you self sabotage 773 00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:45,440 and most most people will answer truthfully every now and 774 00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:49,120 then someone will say I don't and it's interesting to hear 775 00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:52,160 that right because it's like okay, well that's that's 776 00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:59,840 actually self-sabotage. Right. But to to understand our ego 777 00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:05,120 and ego is a defense mechanism to protect our emotional state. 778 00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:09,760 Oftentimes, we have our ego kick in where it'll rationalize 779 00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:13,920 or justify an action or a choice so that we're not wrong 780 00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:17,280 and we've kind of put ourselves into this position of self 781 00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:20,400 self-sabotage. We've kind of put ourselves into this black and 782 00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:24,480 white of well being wrong is bad versus okay, it's okay to be 783 00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:30,400 wrong. It just means that you learn something and if you can 784 00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:34,320 distinguish okay, this is my ego coming up and making an 785 00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:37,280 excuse or making a reason or justification for me not to make 786 00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,800 a change. That's me wanting to stay in my comfort zone 787 00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:45,680 subconsciously versus what's the actual truth and so 788 00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:49,680 what I do with some of the work is I have like a VIP session. 789 00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:53,680 That's a one day intensive eight hour deep dive. I offer 790 00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:58,080 the option for my clients to utilize psilocybin in a 791 00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:01,680 microdose and the psilocybin supports with the removing ego. 792 00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:04,880 So we're not saying well, I did this because you did that I 793 00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:08,640 said this because you said that it's I did this because I was 794 00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:13,040 feeling insecure. I said that because I was hurt there was 795 00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:16,080 the removal of the ego. We're not making up the reason of 796 00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:22,480 the justification to not admit what may be hard to face and so 797 00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:25,840 that's one area where it's a little bit more complex, but 798 00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:28,000 it's a good I'm glad you brought it up. Well, that's 799 00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:32,480 that's our that's the territory we face. I am going to I'm 800 00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:37,680 going to be so sad for all the entrepreneurs who chose to skip 801 00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:42,160 this because it's elementary right who chose to see this and 802 00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:45,520 say oh you know what this I've already heard this I've already 803 00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:49,600 I already know how to overcome my limiting beliefs and 804 00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:53,600 self-sufficiency 96% of businesses fell within 10 years. 805 00:50:54,640 --> 00:51:00,960 4% survive very very few thrive and and it's typically 806 00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:05,600 because of limiting beliefs. It's typically because of an 807 00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:10,480 arrogance or an ignorance or a self-doubt or a you know an 808 00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:14,800 overconfidence there. There's so many factors and it almost 809 00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:18,480 always comes down to the mindset of the leader and their 810 00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:23,360 inability to get past these the things they can't see that 811 00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:26,800 they're that they're subjecting themselves to. I got a team 812 00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,760 that holds me accountable. I got a mom who holds me 813 00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,880 accountable. I got sisters who hold me like people who are 814 00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:36,320 like whoa like if I want if I need a check, you know I go to 815 00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:39,280 those people run an idea by them and they're like nope. 816 00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:43,840 Here's why you know or like yep. No, it looks great, but I 817 00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:48,320 I if I allow my ego to get in the way of conversations like 818 00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:52,800 this and I don't put people in my life like you Jeff. Then I 819 00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,600 will I will end up very short-sighted on what my 820 00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:59,680 possibilities can be and I will end up shrinking my ability to 821 00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:02,320 have a greater sphere of influence. So I believe in I 822 00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:05,120 love what you do those of you listening and especially 823 00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:09,520 entrepreneurs be aware that you you know if you're if you're 824 00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:12,160 dismissing this conversation as one that may not be 825 00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:15,360 applicable to you, you're the exact type of person who needs 826 00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:18,880 to be talking to somebody like Jeff. So check out the landing 827 00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:21,600 page. You'll see his links in there. If you have a vision to 828 00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:24,480 share come on board come share with us. I know there will be a 829 00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:28,320 link on there to apply as well. If you have a question or 830 00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,720 comment you'd like to make a contribution to the show, of 831 00:52:30,720 --> 00:52:34,720 course, leave those in the show notes and Jeff, thank you for 832 00:52:34,720 --> 00:52:37,360 being here today, man. This was awesome. It's been a pleasure 833 00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:39,760 Jackson. Thank you so much for having me and a shout out to 834 00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:43,920 Vicki for introducing us. That's right Vicki. Thank you for 835 00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:46,240 being here today. I'm really happy that you tuned in to 836 00:52:46,240 --> 00:52:49,200 Vision Pros Live. I'm looking forward to seeing your 837 00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:52,320 reactions as these episodes continue to move forward. This 838 00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,880 is going to get more and more fun. We'll have more and more 839 00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,360 engagement as well. We'll invite people to participate in 840 00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:59,680 the show and thank you for giving us your time and 841 00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:05,280 attention. Have an excellent time.