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how did that transition take place? Were you just, where did you apply for it?

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right before the championship, the 2017 championship, the one with the trash cans.

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and MLB and they're like, Hey, we'd like to bring her to New York.

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I was like, it's that time I'm a New York native. So I took the plunder.

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I waited until I got my ring and then I was out to MLB.

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Woo. Oh, that's amazing. All right. So,

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how did all these, how did these opportunities come about?

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and I was going against thousands of candidates that were way overqualified

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than me. And I sat down with the CIO and I said, Hey, look,

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I may not look like your candidate on paper, but I promise you,

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I will be the best candidate that you have here and the best employee.

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If you just give me the opportunity. And to this day, he still checks on me.

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He's over with the Washington Redskins, I mean, Washington commanders, but yeah.

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work hard. They hear about me, do your work, called me over to another,

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build, build. And I'm excited to dive into that before I do though.

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What's your favorite sports team?

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All right. Welcome in to Vision Pros Live with Jackson Calame.

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I'm your show host.

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We will be doing interviews for visionary entrepreneurs and guest leaders who are

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building fantastic visions out there.

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Hey everybody. And welcome into another episode of Vision Pros Live.

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I'm your show host, Jackson Calame, founder and CEO of First Class Business.

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And I am super excited to have Teresa Su on because she's also in the sports

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industry and like, I'm a super big fanatic of sports. So it's always fun.

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And from, I'm a, I'm a big fan of, I'm a, I'm a sports nerd.

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I like the operations behind it.

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I like to know what's going on behind the scenes and how things work.

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And so we get to pick her brain about her experience with my Dallas Cowboys.

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Go away, Stephen A. Just go away. All right.

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And the Houston Astros, I'm a Rangers fan though.

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I've been a closet Rangers fan for a long time. So, whoo.

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But Houston Astros, my son's a fan. So he just got his Jersey, not his Jersey.

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He just got his sweater. It's like twice as big as him.

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And we're going to be going to a Houston Astros game this year.

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And she's worked with MLB. So there's Sue and she's worked in tech.

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We've got so much to talk about.

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So much value will come out of this conversation.

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So make sure that you've got a pen and paper ready to take some notes.

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She's got an amazing life experience that goes back to her roots with her dad as well.

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experience of, you know, of wisdom behind them, like Mike, teach me.

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My dad, I didn't quite learn the same lessons, same lessons from him, not to,

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not to roast him too bad.

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But let's move into these sponsors a little bit before we dive in.

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So laid back languages with Patrick Creighton.

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I love Patrick and he makes my, every time I get to talk to this guy, I have an

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amazing experience.

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And so we do help him on his growth, but he helps people learn foreign languages

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and he knows and he teaches six different languages and how to become fluent in

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those languages quite fast.

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Now, Patrick didn't have to teach me Spanish.

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I already knew Spanish and I learned Spanish fluently within four and a half months.

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It's not because I'm a super genius.

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that subject when I, when I wanted to learn it.

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about what he was doing, I was like, dang, this dude gets it.

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He really understands so I can vouch for that.

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So if you're in the process of learning languages, I highly recommend checking

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him out.

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If you're in the process of solidifying your legacy or you're writing a book or

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you got a book launch that didn't go super well, most book launches don't, you

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don't want an Amazon book out there where you're claiming you're a bestseller

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and you've got less than 20 reviews.

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That's not good.

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People look at that and know that your book launch did not go well.

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You don't have to be offended by that upset.

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You can actually get some help resurrecting that I recommend to Teo

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publishing for that process.

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Ashley to Moe to Teo is one of my favorite people on earth.

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One of my top 20, maybe even top 10.

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That says a lot about who Ashley is as a person.

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She wrote a book called Wallace the Westie for children.

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capitalists, nomad capitalists being one of the most, uh, most sought after

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financial advisors in the world.

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would understand why I appreciate this woman so much and what her capacity is.

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Her ability to research and develop sophisticated strategies while also

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having the heart and mindset to recognize what children's needs are and communicate

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at that level makes her a superhuman being that is very hard to compete with.

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Now there's plenty of other opportunities out there, um, for, for book

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publishing, like self publishing school and like Rakesh Pittman over at

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Dallas and love her as well.

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your legacy and put content out there, those are three fantastic people that I

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be Ashley or Rakesh, um, either one of them fantastic.

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Then there's the water project.

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If you're in a position to give back, please do the water project supports,

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the water project supports, um, specifically communities in Africa where

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there's millions of people who do not have access to clean drinking water.

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you're watching and not just listening in is of these kids celebrating water.

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these communities, you get to see the progress of the community.

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bringing Teresa on stage, but if you're in a position to, uh, give back, please do.

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your network will be in a position to give back.

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If you have something, a cause that you'd like to see us support,

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just drop the link in the comments.

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There's no competition.

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There's an opportunity for abundance.

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We have the opportunity to give, give back, share, and collaborate for the

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success of the 8 billion people on this planet.

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And I hope you join forces with me in that.

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So Teresa Sue, thank you so much for joining us on vision pros live.

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This is going to be amazing.

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Of course.

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I'm so happy as you invite me on.

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I'm happy too.

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Now, now this, this company that you're building, again, we got to talk a

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lot about the sports industries.

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I want to move into your company first, because I just know there's

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One, Tesla.

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Is that how you say the company name?

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That is exactly how you say it.

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It was originally supposed to be techly, but it's Tesla.

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Tesla.

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I like it.

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Um, uh, but Tesla, tell us about Tesla.

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What is it and what are you doing with it?

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So Tesla started as an upscale platform.

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I'm so excited about it.

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So Tesla pretty much will take you from whatever goal or whatever vision that

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you have for yourself and take you to your end goal, right?

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So from the beginning, I'm in nursing, right?

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with careers companies and then train you on your interviews.

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We've been testing it for a year now.

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I love what you're building.

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I absolutely love it.

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So I've got a concept that has been harbored on accident, probably from a past

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scarcity mindset, right?

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You did it.

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You got it done.

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Linda.com was purchased by LinkedIn for a little more than $2 billion.

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book's called Dead and Broken Jobs, Jobs are Dead, Universities are Broken, and a

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guide to moving towards freelancing.

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So stay with me.

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Then LinkedIn buys that.

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And they're using those degrees to get jobs at your competitor environments.

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And the degree is not really contributing to what they need to know to perform

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better in their role here in your company.

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So what we've done is for the corporation, like on the corporate

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sales team, we've created curated content based on LinkedIn learning so that you

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have content available that's applicable to advancing them in their career while

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also making it completely applicable to here in house.

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And it's just shift your budget.

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You don't just shift your budget from paying for universities that don't

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take tailored their courses to you, to our program and provide that as a

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benefit solution.

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Right.

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So here you are adding entirely new levels of doing something very similar to

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that.

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I mean, do you agree and disagree?

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There's my concept.

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Does that make sense?

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No, no, no, no, no, we have a Tesla for teams coming right after that, which is

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taking that whole Linda model because I worked within Linda and I know for a fact,

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it wasn't catered to my current job.

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I was like, why am I taking this?

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This doesn't help me at all.

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So we built a tool pretty much that scans your current skillset.

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What if your manager is looking for you to do something or it needs you to upscale

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in a certain role, you want to go for a promotion and you need this skillset.

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It's going to like single out your, what your goal is, right?

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It's not going to have you do any BS courses or anything like that, that really

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don't matter and that you skip through anyway.

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So yeah, you're, you definitely were onto something.

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I think Linda, they got really lucky.

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They got really lucky because yeah, I don't see the value in it.

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I love that.

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That's fair.

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That's fair.

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And they had plenty to optimize, right?

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And, and then there's a Coursera, um, and, and, and they got bought or no, I'm sorry,

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they received $150 million investment from Facebook when Facebook changed to meta.

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Um, and there's all these different learning opportunities and plans, but what you said

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really hit my heart.

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And that was in relation to the nurses, right?

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And relation to, and I know that nurses 10 to 15 years into nurses, man, ask them how

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much they love their job.

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Um, you know, most of them are stressed out the wazoo.

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They're, they're tired of going through what they have to go through.

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If the system were better than sure, they might appreciate being a nurse.

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Um, but the system's difficult.

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It's tough.

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And that was before COVID.

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Um, with COVID now it's even harder.

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And yet if they want to change careers, oh, like it feels like a tsunami of doubt just,

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just hits you.

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Um, and it's like, what can I possibly do with my, my, and same thing with stay at

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home moms who feel like they don't, I mean, they're the best managers, the moms, they,

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they got in the subordinate children, they're gonna fire their children, you know,

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is amazing in like project management fields.

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Like, yeah, I have a nurse going through our program right now and she's just there at

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her job and you could tell she's like, I'm waiting to get out.

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I feel so bad.

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I had so many nurses.

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I even had lawyers come through.

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Um, and it's just the same story.

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There's no work life balance there.

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They're not either getting paid for their work or they're overworked, you know, and

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they just don't have the normalcy of life.

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Yeah, it's sad, but, and then, you know, you see their resume and they try to go into

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roles like technical roles with some of the skill sets and it looks straight, like for

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years they've been in the medical field in reality is too competitive in tech to even

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take that serious.

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So what's that gap?

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It's upscaling, but taking your current skillset and making it, you know, just improving

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on that with technical skills, right?

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Right.

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Can we make you a more attractive candidate?

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Well, there's two, there's two unfair advantages you have on that.

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One is, is optimizing the wording, right? Of the resume itself to make it applicable.

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But two, you are the living proof of that 16 year old who said, I'm going to be the

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best candidate, right?

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You, you leveraged your own intuition, your own confidence, self-awareness, you know,

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the, the reality of the human to human connection that was there.

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And so as a, as a leader in this space, right?

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You've got, you've got both those mechanisms planned out.

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I'm rooting for you.

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Like this is, this is so cool.

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That's awesome.

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That's for me.

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Yes.

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All right.

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So, if we were to, if we were to define for the audience, like, you know, who else, who

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should be listening right now?

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Who's going to get the most out of this conversation as we explore your vision and your, your

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leadership experiences.

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And, you know, why, why they should be listening to you.

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Who would that be?

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I definitely feel like, especially with my own audience, I think at, when you're at that

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decision point after high school where you're like, what do I do with my life?

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This is one just subject group.

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What do I do in my life?

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Right.

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I'm, I've definitely have been the leader in that space of this is what you should do

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based on these results or stuff like that.

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Or if you're a career transition or you're tired of your current job, you know, you,

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if you need career help or you're going through workplace issues.

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Now I'm not HR or employment law specialized, but I definitely have been in the industry

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long enough to know, you know, what's the real truth is, right?

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What you should and what you shouldn't do coming to as a friend.

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So those that are just in the, focused on their career growth, you know, just education

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wise, figuring out what tech is for the first time.

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Should I go in that direction?

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Those people that are pretty much scared about AI too.

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I definitely feel like that's where my listener bases are for sure.

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Yeah, no, absolutely.

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I agree with all the above on that.

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So those who are building AI projects, you can piggyback this conversation and learn

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some things to model.

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Let's talk about your vision for those that you serve.

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So there's a path that we've already talked about and that's helping them get to where

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they want to go.

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But what do you feel like the, the outcome vision?

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What's that final destination look like for people?

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I think for me definitely is giving them what they hope for, right?

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Like their goal, their initial goal.

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A lot of people lose track of that along the way because something seems attainable.

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So I like to relate it to every year, the beginning of the year, everybody has these

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big goals like I'm going to go in the gym, I'm going to be strong.

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But halfway through you notice they all taper off because that goal doesn't seem attainable

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because life just happens, right?

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Or you're not, you're not being, you don't have any gratification along the way to help

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you, right?

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So that's what I, that's where I come in, right?

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I'm that person that shows you that this is a goal that not only many others reach, but

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you can reach as well, right?

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And I'm going to simplify this for you.

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I'm not going to complicate it.

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And along your journey, I'm going to give you gratification and reassurance that you're

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on the right way.

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And I am going to pair you with people who are going through that same journey with you.

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So I, my goal is to see people from point A to their point B, like the full process,

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the full transition.

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Absolutely.

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And let's talk about your vision for you.

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What does that look like, Teresa?

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What do you see on your horizon?

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Yeah.

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I, you know, a lot has changed in the last two years for me, right?

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Leaving corporate, becoming, you know, a leader in this career space.

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But also just finding myself as a CEO for the first time, right?

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Going from managing a team to like managing a company is completely different.

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So I definitely want to grow in that space of learning to be uncomfortable, right?

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I'm so used to the corporate mindset of you work eight to five, then you turn off and

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you kind of like live your other life.

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But with entrepreneurship, there is no turning off.

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You're constantly going.

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So I definitely want to embrace that change, right?

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For me, right?

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I know I'm up to any task that I set for myself.

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If I'm going to see, have this company, I'm going to see it through, right?

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I'm going to work the hardest to get it to its light.

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I know that I can already trust myself to do that, but just trust myself along the process

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to take care of myself in that whole journey.

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Right.

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And I love what you said there.

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There's no turning it off.

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I would say there's nobody that will turn it off for you.

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And so you have to find your own infrastructure on that.

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And that's a challenge, you know?

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And so I had somebody ask me over Christmas week, they said, you know, like, do you have

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to work?

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And I said, yeah, my boss is a real a-hole and I have to go to work tomorrow.

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You know?

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And she's like, oh, really?

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That sucks.

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I'm like, that's, it's me.

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And she's like, what?

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I was like, no, it was my nephew's partner.

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And so I was just explaining to her a little bit the dynamics of like, you know, you learn

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to be responsible with the process.

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You are accountable for everything.

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And when you're accountable for everything, if you're responsible with it and you're really

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dedicated and passionate, sometimes we work like Superman with the laser eyes, where like

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we burn through everything.

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Learning to control that can be a challenge in and of itself.

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Yeah, I agree.

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What are your thoughts on that?

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Do you also still find that balance?

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Do you, you know, or you, Tesla, I sleep in the office, never leave.

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And you know, what does that look like?

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That's so interesting because somebody asked me that on my social media channels today.

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They were like, how do you find work life balance?

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Because I just recently posted a video that showed how many hours I work per week.

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And my hour, my days that I work is like 16 hours, 12 hours, 14 hours, something extreme.

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So you know, the political answer here is, you know, yeah, of course, you know, I find

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time to go outside and get fresh air.

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But I, I'm realistic.

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I'm in the trenches right now.

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Right.

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That's good for you.

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When I say good for you, I'm just happy that you admit it.

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You admit your reality.

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Like that's what I mean by that.

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It's not like, oh, that's what I endorse or prove.

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If anyone is listening and hearing that, I'm not saying like, oh, like Theresa, you need

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my approval.

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No, it's just like, I'm so happy you're being honest.

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Yeah, I just, I'm in the trenches, right.

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And I have accepted that.

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That's something that I know I have to see through.

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So do I have much balance right now in my life?

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No.

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So I built an at home office so that, you know, my children have access to me.

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My husband have access to me.

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You know what I'm saying?

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So it's like, I can also balance my life here and there with also working, you know, step

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away, step aside.

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You know, I do have a physical office too.

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But again, making that choice to build this whole office that I can do a lot of my work

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here as well.

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That's the balance that I'm going to get for the next five years, but that's okay.

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I made that commitment.

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Right.

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Exactly.

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And you know, it's, it is strange in a world where there's so many different, different

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elements you can fill your cup up with.

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Right.

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If we were to compare our time elements, what we use our time with as though they're like

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sand, oil, water, et cetera.

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Like we have an unlimited set of resources these days because of all of our online relationships.

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Like I'm spending my hour with you.

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You know, like that's, that's what I'm doing right now.

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And somebody be like, Oh my gosh, he's working too.

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I love this.

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This is fun.

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Oh, this fills my cup.

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Can I do this 20 interviews of these in a day?

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No.

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Um, you know, like that crushed me.

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Um, you know, but I can do, I can do three to five.

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Um, I can hang in there with, I'm moving it down to two, to be honest, but, but three

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to five, like I can do that.

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And so somebody else can do 10 in a day.

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Good for them.

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You know, like we all have different thresholds on, on what balance and work and life.

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Look like and how to overlap them.

477
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:47,640
So you do you.

478
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:51,640
Um, but it's, you know, you also, you also have like, somebody can accuse you of not

479
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,640
having a bounce, but you're an entrepreneur.

480
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,280
You obviously appreciate sports.

481
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,840
You have children, you have a husband, you have a home.

482
00:23:58,840 --> 00:23:59,840
Like there's a lot of balance.

483
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:01,840
Like that's, that's a proof right there.

484
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:02,840
Yeah, exactly.

485
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:07,280
I, and you know, and I talk about this all the time, like nothing is going to get my

486
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:08,280
full a hundred percent.

487
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:09,280
Right.

488
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:10,280
And we're all human.

489
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,640
I'm not made to be a robot and perfect.

490
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:13,640
Right.

491
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,400
And it's always like my company gets a good portion of this.

492
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:21,100
Some days my children get a good portion and then some days my husband get the most portion,

493
00:24:21,100 --> 00:24:22,100
but that's life.

494
00:24:22,100 --> 00:24:23,100
Right.

495
00:24:23,100 --> 00:24:28,360
And if every, if everybody understands the bigger mission than in five plus years, then

496
00:24:28,360 --> 00:24:31,760
we'll all be relaxing and having people do what I'm doing now for me.

497
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:32,760
You understand?

498
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:34,200
Like I won't have to be as present.

499
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:40,140
So if I grind now while I have the capability to do so, I have the endurance, I have the,

500
00:24:40,140 --> 00:24:42,400
you know, the grit to kind of go after it.

501
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:46,680
I might as well go after it now so that when my kids get older and they, they need more

502
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:51,160
time because they're in high school and whatnot, I'm there, I'm available, but that takes going

503
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,480
through the trenches and that's okay.

504
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,760
That's the law of the harvest.

505
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,160
Um, and I'm a big fan of law of the harvest.

506
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:02,400
I watched the Steve Harvey video the other day and he talked about planting seeds and

507
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,480
how he spent his whole life planting seeds and he keeps planting seeds.

508
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,680
And, and you know, it's, it's sometimes hard to remind people, especially when they're

509
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:12,280
starting out at the beginning, it's like, like you got to build the vineyard to have

510
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:13,280
a vineyard, right?

511
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,720
You don't even have grounds to plant seeds in yet.

512
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:20,440
Um, you do have to get in the trenches and really build this stuff out.

513
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,280
Um, so that there's a whole lot of work that goes into that.

514
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:24,280
Let's shift gears though.

515
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,400
Let's shift gears to a super dark subject.

516
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:33,640
What's the worst leadership experience you've ever had been in, experienced or seen?

517
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,840
Oh man.

518
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:36,840
This one.

519
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:37,840
Okay.

520
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:42,880
This is a good one for me because all through my corporate career, I've always had that

521
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,080
chip on my shoulder of people just doubting me.

522
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:50,800
And I was on live last night talking about this too, where, for example, whenever I first

523
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:55,240
told people that, um, I was going to work for the Dallas Cowboys, they thought I was

524
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:56,800
going to be a Dallas Cowboys cheerleader.

525
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:58,800
Never thought I was going to work with crack.

526
00:25:58,800 --> 00:25:59,800
Right?

527
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:03,000
So I'll honor the fact that I can see why they thought you're going to be a cheerleader.

528
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:04,000
You are beautiful.

529
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:08,440
I was just bubbling all this crazy stuff, but I'm like, that was my first entry way

530
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,440
into like, interesting.

531
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:11,440
This is interesting.

532
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:17,840
So going into that, I didn't realize how different I looked in the industry.

533
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:24,280
Um, in this tech industry that is male dominated, usually typically white male.

534
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,640
And I don't look like the standard, right?

535
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:30,180
And at that time I was pretty young, 19.

536
00:26:30,180 --> 00:26:35,080
So going into like this doggy dog world, double.

537
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:40,680
And um, there was one person definitely that kind of started the journey of, oh, this is

538
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:41,680
going to be a tough ride.

539
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:42,680
Right?

540
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:46,920
I don't want to get into specifics because, you know, I love my, my corporate experience

541
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:54,480
and whatnot, but, um, it was a rude awakening when, um, I was told like, no one cares what

542
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:55,480
you think.

543
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,200
No one in front of everyone.

544
00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:58,200
Right?

545
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:02,360
And I remember, I remember sitting at a table, it was our, it was our, it was our team meeting

546
00:27:02,360 --> 00:27:06,000
and it was like our, my first week being there and everybody had to go round table to tell

547
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,600
them what everybody was working on.

548
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:13,080
And this person just mentioned like, you know, uh, you know, you don't have to say nobody

549
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,360
really cares what, what's going on with you.

550
00:27:15,360 --> 00:27:18,900
And I really thought it was a joke because I'm just like, this, this, that doesn't seem

551
00:27:18,900 --> 00:27:20,120
too real.

552
00:27:20,120 --> 00:27:26,360
So I remember what my, my instant was like, do not cry in front of these people.

553
00:27:26,360 --> 00:27:27,360
That's one thing.

554
00:27:27,360 --> 00:27:28,360
Do don't do that.

555
00:27:28,360 --> 00:27:32,240
So I remember sucking it up and I was like, okay, this is going to be the journey.

556
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:33,480
This is going to be the journey.

557
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:34,680
And I went to the bathroom.

558
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,360
I shed a little tears.

559
00:27:36,360 --> 00:27:39,960
I came back and I said, this is the ride that I'm going to ride.

560
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:45,840
Um, and from there, it's just been, you know, a fight uphill with proving myself, you know,

561
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,120
am I the right person for the job?

562
00:27:48,120 --> 00:27:52,920
You know, trusting and, and trusting my ability to get things done and having to prove it,

563
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:53,920
right.

564
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,440
Like because it made me strong enough to run a company.

565
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:02,320
Now when I have to make those tough decisions, tough decisions, I make sure that when talking

566
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:06,680
to my team, I'm not talking to them the same way that people were talking to me.

567
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,480
I'm talking with great.

568
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:14,980
Um, so yeah, no, I can't give specifics obviously, but I definitely say like no journey is easy

569
00:28:14,980 --> 00:28:15,980
for anyone.

570
00:28:15,980 --> 00:28:21,840
And you know, you run across people that are just not properly, you know, tone trained

571
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,120
and that's the habits and that's okay.

572
00:28:25,120 --> 00:28:26,120
Right.

573
00:28:26,120 --> 00:28:32,560
It's, it can be, it's tough when people use virtues to demean us as well.

574
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,960
And that's, that's, uh, you know, it's a, maybe I, maybe I'll dive into that a little

575
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:40,240
bit, but one of the, one of the realities that exists there too, though, it's like,

576
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:41,560
I'll be honest.

577
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:46,600
If people thought that I was a cheerleader, you know, that was their, their thought for

578
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:47,600
me, I'd be so happy.

579
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:48,600
Thank you.

580
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:49,600
I needed that.

581
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:53,240
They get paid, they get paid like a hundred, two hundred.

582
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:57,360
Well, on the flip side, if somebody was like, Oh, you must, you know, what position do

583
00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:58,360
you play?

584
00:28:58,360 --> 00:28:59,360
I'd be like, Oh, yes.

585
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,920
Thank you for thinking that I'm, I'm that level, right.

586
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,120
That I'm, that I'm doing that role.

587
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:11,360
But when somebody twists that and says, Oh, well, Oh, you must not be that important in

588
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:12,640
that role, right.

589
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:17,120
Or they, they use that to kind of say like, well, you should be over there, not over here.

590
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,800
Like with LeBron James and they said, shut up and dribble.

591
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,960
It's like, you know, to put a box on that.

592
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,800
And so then that person doubling down, you know, and saying, no one, no one cares what

593
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:28,800
you think.

594
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,800
Like, Whoa, that's, yeah, that's, that's interesting.

595
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,280
So what's interesting about that is that you stayed in the organization.

596
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:40,560
I mean, you found your way to play ball, you know, you kept yourself from crying, but how

597
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:46,600
did you, how did you manage to move forward in an environment?

598
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:50,880
And that you would have come across that environment probably over and over people do.

599
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:52,680
So how did you stay involved?

600
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:53,680
You know what I realized?

601
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:59,000
Cause I love that organization, organization overall, like that organization was the best

602
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:00,840
highlight of my career.

603
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:04,120
Like honestly, I'll talk about it and I'll go back over and over to it.

604
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,400
And I still have respect for the CIO to this day.

605
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:11,680
Like I said, we talk, we, and we keep in contact, but that's just one bad seed that was within

606
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:12,680
that organization.

607
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:17,240
And that's usually what happens is whenever there's organizations, there's always going

608
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:18,240
to be bad seeds.

609
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:22,600
There's always going to be that person that you run into that has a high status that is

610
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,600
on a power trip.

611
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:29,300
And you know, within, you can't, you can't protect yourself or shield yourself from,

612
00:30:29,300 --> 00:30:31,320
you know, running into those types of people.

613
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,360
So why should I stop what I have going on?

614
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,680
Because someone makes the company their personality.

615
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:38,680
Right.

616
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:45,080
I always saw it as if someone is taking the time to try to keep me in a box or, or keep

617
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:50,120
me down or, you know, keep me in this limited space or try to insult me.

618
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,040
I always, for some reason it always fuels me.

619
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:57,520
It's like a God given tip to like, I'm like, Hey, this is great.

620
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:04,120
I must be on your radar because there's no way I would be paying attention to someone

621
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,240
that didn't spark a threat to me.

622
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:07,240
Right.

623
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:08,240
So I always saw it as that.

624
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:09,500
I mean, like, this is great.

625
00:31:09,500 --> 00:31:11,280
You just fueled me even more.

626
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:16,600
Like, so after a certain point, when I realized this is the journey that I'm going to ride,

627
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:20,020
this is my ride, I was like, I'm up for the journey.

628
00:31:20,020 --> 00:31:23,000
I'm going to run across bad seeds all throughout my career.

629
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:24,000
And that's okay.

630
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,740
Even in entrepreneurship, you run across it.

631
00:31:25,740 --> 00:31:26,740
That's okay.

632
00:31:26,740 --> 00:31:31,000
But if that's something that reminds me that I have one more person to prove that this

633
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:36,240
is where I belong and I will keep going on this mission until I feel like, you know,

634
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,360
maybe I need to go to Bali and just say, you know, I've taken all this bad energy.

635
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:43,120
I need to like, you know, maybe go, you know, release it somewhere.

636
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,360
And like, but so I, it doesn't bother me.

637
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,680
It just fuels me, which is, you know.

638
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,760
So next leadership thing we can learn from you then, how did you develop the diplomacy

639
00:31:52,760 --> 00:32:02,160
skills to coexist with that, with the leaders that had a power trip towards you?

640
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:03,440
That's a great question.

641
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:11,720
And I think, you know, okay, I will say every strength that I have definitely comes from

642
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,280
the root of me, right?

643
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,580
I grew up in Southside, Jamaica, Queens, right?

644
00:32:16,580 --> 00:32:20,320
It was already a thing that you, you're just a kid that doesn't make it out.

645
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:21,320
Like it's a thing.

646
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:25,960
So you're already going against people that you're supposed to, that's supposed to love

647
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:27,200
you and care about you.

648
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,640
That's telling you that you're not going to make it out.

649
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:30,760
Like, why are you different?

650
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:31,760
You're not good enough.

651
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,880
And you have a small group of people that's really rooting you on, but they really still

652
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,200
doubt you, right?

653
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:42,260
So I think from the root of me being young, I've always had people go against the grain

654
00:32:42,260 --> 00:32:44,400
of what I wanted to do.

655
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:49,080
And I've built that, that no one really has my back, right?

656
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:50,080
I have myself.

657
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,880
And even though somebody may have my back, I don't look at it as an asset.

658
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,320
I look at it as great.

659
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:56,320
Great.

660
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:57,320
That's great.

661
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:02,520
I'm not going to be in my corner, but I have about 5,000 people that are rooting against

662
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:03,520
me.

663
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:08,080
So for me, I didn't know what it looked like in the corporate field.

664
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:09,520
I didn't know what that looks like.

665
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:14,860
So I was like, Hey, you know, I'm going to run across people like that.

666
00:33:14,860 --> 00:33:16,120
That's just people that's in your nature.

667
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:17,960
You wouldn't run across that with your friends.

668
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:19,480
You run across that with family.

669
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,140
It doesn't matter.

670
00:33:21,140 --> 00:33:24,720
You have to coexist because my goals are way bigger than this problem.

671
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:30,640
Like whatever problem you have with me has nothing to do with my goals.

672
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:31,640
That's how I see it.

673
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:36,520
It's like whatever, whatever's going on in your head and your personal vendetta with

674
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:40,560
me or how you feel about me has no reflection of where I see myself.

675
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,680
So that's already there.

676
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:43,680
So that's how I coexist.

677
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,600
And again, it kind of powers me up.

678
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:49,120
Like I like to call it myself like the Avengers.

679
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,400
Like all I need is the infinity stones.

680
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:55,400
Every time someone just is negative or I have a negative person doubting me in my space,

681
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,600
it's like, I just grabbed another infinity stone.

682
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,160
You just leveled me up.

683
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,720
I love that.

684
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,560
So I mean, I don't, I don't pay attention to it.

685
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:05,560
I don't.

686
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,520
And if I did, it will, I wouldn't be where I'm at today.

687
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,520
To be honest, I wouldn't.

688
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,000
I understand that.

689
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:16,460
I have in many, many cases allowed that to hold me back.

690
00:34:16,460 --> 00:34:21,320
So I know, I know firsthand what you mean by what, you know, I know, I know, I know

691
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:28,120
I could be a lot further along if I had not allowed the problem that somebody had to defeat

692
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:29,120
me.

693
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:35,320
And so you mentioned something else that I didn't learn until probably 28 years old.

694
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:39,080
And you said, you know, you have this healthy mindset that somebody may have your back and

695
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,760
it, you're not being ungrateful for those individuals.

696
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,560
In fact, I would say you're honoring them.

697
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:44,560
I didn't learn to do that.

698
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:52,760
I was, I read in a therapy book that we break the first commandment from a Christian standpoint

699
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:57,200
of thou shalt have no other gods before me.

700
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:03,520
When we put our spouse in the position of being our savior, when we rely on them for

701
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,640
anything whatsoever.

702
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,220
And the same is true of all relationships.

703
00:35:07,220 --> 00:35:11,000
So if we have a tendency to say, oh, that person's going to take care of this, you know,

704
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:12,360
or oh, that person has my back.

705
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:18,320
You're going to take, you know, we are dishonoring them when we rely on them to be in that scenario

706
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:24,000
versus honoring them by, you know, taking care of ourselves, making sure that, you know,

707
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,800
we're moving forward, whether it's God, the universe, whatever you want to call it.

708
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,840
But I have to be responsible for me.

709
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:30,840
Yeah.

710
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,600
And you, you own that.

711
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,800
So I like that.

712
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,800
All right, go ahead.

713
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,160
You got something else?

714
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:39,160
Yeah.

715
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,480
I think God has shown me that he's in control, regardless.

716
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:46,200
Like, everybody here is just like, I always see it like this.

717
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:51,980
If I do run against people that I have to kind of coexist in that space that isn't really

718
00:35:51,980 --> 00:35:59,280
positive or beneficial for me, I feel like God is just training me for what I have to

719
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:00,600
deal with in the future.

720
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:01,600
Right.

721
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,440
It's just a little prep for whatever is to come.

722
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,120
There's going to be a bigger beast that's bigger than this.

723
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:07,120
Right.

724
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:08,120
That's going to come.

725
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:09,320
And I always felt like that.

726
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:13,020
Like when I started, it was very small little issues, people that loved you, right.

727
00:36:13,020 --> 00:36:16,000
People that cared about you, that still showed you certain love, but it was a little doubt.

728
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,660
But it prepared me for the next layer and the next layer, the next layer.

729
00:36:19,660 --> 00:36:22,480
So I always look at it as, okay, take note of this.

730
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:29,400
This is something that you have to work on, not, you know, allowing to fill your space.

731
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:30,400
Right.

732
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:31,400
Fill it.

733
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:32,400
Yeah.

734
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,760
Well, I love the way that you let you talk about it almost like an exercise of strength.

735
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:36,760
Right.

736
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,280
And it's like, I'm preparing you for that future opportunity, which is often labeled

737
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:41,280
diversity challenge.

738
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:42,560
Oh my gosh, life sucks.

739
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,520
Look at what we're going through.

740
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:49,640
But it's usually on the other side of the hard workouts, you know, is the reality like,

741
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,880
whoa, look at what I'm capable of doing now.

742
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,000
Look at how much life has improved because of these experiences.

743
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:59,760
So to get out of that subject a little bit though, and onto the lightest of light paths,

744
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:01,540
what's your best leadership experience?

745
00:37:01,540 --> 00:37:02,540
What's that one look like?

746
00:37:02,540 --> 00:37:03,540
For myself or for somebody else?

747
00:37:03,540 --> 00:37:04,540
What do you think?

748
00:37:04,540 --> 00:37:08,200
Your call on this, this can be even one you saw in a movie.

749
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:09,200
It's your choice.

750
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:10,200
Okay.

751
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:14,240
I have one, I, cause I want to give a shout out to this, like somebody who changed the

752
00:37:14,240 --> 00:37:16,920
course of like my career, I would say.

753
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:21,320
So I had this one boss who it's so interesting.

754
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:26,440
I told you earlier in the show that I never applied for any job after Dallas Cowboys has

755
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:30,440
kind of just been like, Hey, you know, reference.

756
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:36,800
But I remember being interested in this one role and one of my coworkers was like, Hey,

757
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,240
we see that you're doing this work already.

758
00:37:39,240 --> 00:37:46,440
There, I got an email about an open role for this one boss that he highly recommended.

759
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:47,680
So I was like, Oh, this is awesome.

760
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,100
This could be the next trajectory in my career.

761
00:37:50,100 --> 00:37:54,000
This was the first time I ever applied to something in like years.

762
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:55,480
So I was like, I'm going to give this a go.

763
00:37:55,480 --> 00:38:00,440
So I told them I was interested and he's the boss that, you know, was hiring the hiring

764
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:04,960
manager was like, Hey, let's jump in on call and let's chat.

765
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,440
So I'm like, okay, yes, this is it.

766
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:08,600
So I get on the interview.

767
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,000
I'm thinking this goes well.

768
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:11,000
This is going well.

769
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:12,160
Like this is my dream job.

770
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,000
I'm going to be in my dream location.

771
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,240
I have already started planning what house I was going to build.

772
00:38:16,240 --> 00:38:20,080
And then two weeks later he calls me and he tells me, you know, you know, unfortunately

773
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:21,800
I had to go with another candidate.

774
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,840
You're not just ready yet.

775
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:28,240
And I remember being heart shattered and just breaking my heart.

776
00:38:28,240 --> 00:38:30,560
And I remember they solid.

777
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:36,400
And I said, okay, what are some things that I could have done better or can learn to be

778
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,260
prepared for this next time this comes around?

779
00:38:39,260 --> 00:38:41,680
And from there changed his perspective of me.

780
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:42,680
Right.

781
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,960
So he actually from there started to coach me.

782
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:47,960
He was like, this is the things that you need to do.

783
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:51,160
This is the, the, the courses that you should take.

784
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,160
These are the lessons that you should think.

785
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,560
These are the people that you should meet and, and co mingle.

786
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:56,560
Right.

787
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:57,560
This is just who you should talk to.

788
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:58,560
Just being a great mentor.

789
00:38:58,560 --> 00:38:59,560
Right.

790
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:03,720
Taking, taking the time that he didn't have and just really mentoring me.

791
00:39:03,720 --> 00:39:06,960
And then from there, a year later, he calls me.

792
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,760
He's like, Hey, I have this job for you.

793
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:14,280
Um, do you, are you, do you want to come to so and so I had already accepted another job,

794
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:18,760
but he was like, I, I've been watching you in the background and he stayed as like a

795
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:20,520
great mentor for me.

796
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:26,680
But he changed the course of just my positive attitude, like taking a, a, a interview experience

797
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,000
that usually people are tired, they exhausted.

798
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,680
And he just provided great, just leadership to me throughout my career.

799
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:37,080
You know, you see great talent, you, you mold it, you don't, you don't hurt it.

800
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:40,560
You don't, you don't, um, lessen their, their abilities.

801
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:44,800
You strengthen their abilities, you make them better, you motivate them to be best.

802
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:45,800
Right.

803
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:51,160
And that's where my whole triumph of encouraging people that there is more for you out there.

804
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:55,160
And this is, that's kind of what birth, the whole, my social media platform was like,

805
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:56,520
there's more for you out there.

806
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,680
And I take that on with everybody who I hire.

807
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:03,920
I'm like, I want you for my company, but if you outgrow this company, it's time for you

808
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:09,440
to leave and I support you because you're going to be the best story that I tell, you

809
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:13,280
know, if you go and you become a CEO of another company, they're going to come back and say,

810
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:14,960
you know, she works for so and so.

811
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:18,120
And I was one of those people that was along your journey.

812
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:24,320
So it started with somebody like him who really changed that perspective for me and curated

813
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:30,880
this mindset that no matter what the circumstance motivate people, if somebody leaves my company,

814
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:35,000
although it may hurt me and my company and it may suck because I may really truly value

815
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:39,380
them, it's the best, it's the best thing to see the best for people.

816
00:40:39,380 --> 00:40:43,760
Because if I hold onto them and they're no good for me, they're no good if they outgrew

817
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,720
the situation, they have nothing left in the tank.

818
00:40:46,720 --> 00:40:50,960
You got to learn how to motivate and bring people into the best version of themselves.

819
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:51,960
You know, so yeah.

820
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:52,960
Oh, yeah.

821
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:54,620
Oh, my gosh, that was awesome.

822
00:40:54,620 --> 00:41:00,160
You threw down on both sides and that I love that you're able to tie those aspects together.

823
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,800
Yeah, we we have a vision.

824
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:04,560
We have a passions assessment.

825
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,560
Are you ready to pursue your passions?

826
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:13,000
And our clients have to do it as well as those who come to work for our team.

827
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:17,280
Because if we empower that, if we empower the people who work with us to know what they

828
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:21,280
want in life and know that we're the vehicle to help them get there.

829
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:22,280
Yeah.

830
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,800
Oh, they come they come to bat for that vehicle.

831
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,400
They're ready to go.

832
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:27,400
Yes.

833
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,400
Preparing that path can be super, super helpful.

834
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:31,720
And then I love that.

835
00:41:31,720 --> 00:41:33,200
I love that one.

836
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,460
I don't feel like you give yourself enough credit in this reality.

837
00:41:36,460 --> 00:41:38,200
And I hope other people catch this.

838
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,240
And you probably would if you were to repeat this story.

839
00:41:41,240 --> 00:41:43,460
So that other people catch it.

840
00:41:43,460 --> 00:41:44,880
You would have never had that opportunity.

841
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:48,720
I don't think with the leader, had you not expressed the humility of finding out what

842
00:41:48,720 --> 00:41:51,360
can you what could you have done to be better prepared?

843
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:52,360
Right.

844
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:56,020
You earned his respect, his trust, his confidence.

845
00:41:56,020 --> 00:42:01,320
He now knew that you were stable enough and confident enough in yourself to be able to

846
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,360
receive feedback.

847
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:07,440
And that allowed him to have that second tier assessment of like, well, I should keep tabs

848
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,380
on this one because maybe I didn't make the right.

849
00:42:10,380 --> 00:42:13,680
Now he's probably second guessing his hiring choice.

850
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:19,040
But he also knows that he's got a phenomenal backup opportunity.

851
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,840
And so it sounds like he just honored the great relationship that exists.

852
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,800
He had two rock stars positioned for one.

853
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:28,120
And now he had the opportunity to come to you later and offer something.

854
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:33,640
And that that facilitation only came about because of your willingness to be coachable.

855
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:35,320
Yeah, exactly.

856
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,720
Taking that gut punch that really hurt.

857
00:42:37,720 --> 00:42:40,560
You already had your house streamed out.

858
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,160
You were so ready for everything.

859
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:49,560
I had contacted everybody I know in that city was like, I'm coming.

860
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:54,560
I knew for a fact, I was like, no one has ever told me no.

861
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,880
In that sense where I felt so confident about it.

862
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:57,880
Right.

863
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,840
That was the first gut punch where I felt like, dang, did I?

864
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:02,840
I don't know if he made the right decision.

865
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,000
But you know, that was my reason.

866
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:06,000
You did take it with grace.

867
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:07,000
I did.

868
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:08,000
I did.

869
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:09,000
It's huge and hard.

870
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:10,000
It's so hard.

871
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,760
We can all learn from that.

872
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:17,640
So I have a feeling, probably have a few moments in life where I reflect back on this and I'm

873
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,200
like, oh, I should have done that.

874
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,280
I should have been ready to be more humble.

875
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:23,280
So all right.

876
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:27,720
So this was the last lesson that you could share ever.

877
00:43:27,720 --> 00:43:31,480
What powerful lesson can other visionaries learn from your experience?

878
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,040
Okay.

879
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:36,240
Your journey doesn't stop at a person.

880
00:43:36,240 --> 00:43:37,240
Right.

881
00:43:37,240 --> 00:43:41,160
Usually people hinder us from going forward, whether they discourage our dreams or we get

882
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:47,240
too occupied with people and, you know, we lose fact that everybody has a mission and

883
00:43:47,240 --> 00:43:48,840
a purpose in life.

884
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:49,840
Right.

885
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:54,880
Whether your purpose is as big as what Jesus had to go through or is as being the person

886
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:56,360
that is the messenger.

887
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:57,360
Right.

888
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:03,800
It's a purpose and it is up to you to stay focused on your journey and your, you know,

889
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:07,600
your parallel effect that, Hey, there's a bigger plan for me here.

890
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:11,640
And I'm a part of a bigger mission that no one really knows what this is for.

891
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,840
But along the way, there are always going to be people that throw things at you because

892
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:16,480
these are tests of life.

893
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:17,560
Are you strong enough?

894
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:19,080
Have you learned your lesson?

895
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:20,320
Can you get through this?

896
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:21,320
Right.

897
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,680
Those are things that are meant to stop you in your journey.

898
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:28,280
And this applies to every factor in life, career, relationships, money, financials,

899
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:29,280
you'll owe.

900
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:30,280
Everybody has a story.

901
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:31,280
That's the thing.

902
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:35,920
And the thing is the people who meet their purpose or they find their passion are the

903
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:39,000
people that say, I'm stronger than this moment.

904
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,440
I'm stronger than what has been thrown at me.

905
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:45,000
And I have to see it through because once you see it through, we always look back and

906
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:49,040
say, I didn't understand at the time, but I understand why I went through it.

907
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,160
It always, we all have that moment.

908
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,560
So I always say, persevere through and trust yourself.

909
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,400
The biggest thing is trust yourself.

910
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,660
You've lived in yourself longer than anyone has ever lived in yourself.

911
00:44:59,660 --> 00:45:04,160
You know what goes on in your head more than anyone else knows what goes on in your head.

912
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:05,680
Trust the decisions that you make.

913
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:10,160
And the moment that you feel like I'm getting too comfortable, this is too easy.

914
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,680
That's your side to say it's time for me to shift.

915
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:17,160
It's time for me to challenge myself because you no longer are to live in this area that

916
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:18,160
you're in.

917
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,440
So continue on in your journey.

918
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:22,440
Nailed it.

919
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:23,440
I'm with Christina.

920
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:24,440
Love this lady.

921
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:25,440
Love this conversation.

922
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:30,760
This is one of those where I just want to overindulge and keep going.

923
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:35,680
But for the sake of everybody's time and for the sake of your abilities to meditate on

924
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:39,640
what was taught as well, like I said, take some notes on this opportunity, learn what

925
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:40,640
you can.

926
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,920
Of course you can follow Teresa on LinkedIn and other Instagram.

927
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:50,680
You got like 42,000 followers on Instagram and growing 300,000 followers in total up

928
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:51,960
to this point.

929
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:58,640
And if you guys have any questions for Teresa, don't hesitate to just drop a comment in one

930
00:45:58,640 --> 00:45:59,640
of the social channels.

931
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:03,080
We'll be happy to forward that to her and make sure she gets it.

932
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,200
And Tesli, we can't wait to see that come out.

933
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:06,200
When's the website coming out?

934
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:07,640
Put a little pressure on that.

935
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:08,640
I know.

936
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:09,640
I'm hoping February.

937
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:15,240
It was supposed to be January, but you know, I had a fellow for beef, so I'm hoping February.

938
00:46:15,240 --> 00:46:16,240
It's coming.

939
00:46:16,240 --> 00:46:17,240
It's like right.

940
00:46:17,240 --> 00:46:18,240
That means it's right on the burner.

941
00:46:18,240 --> 00:46:19,240
That's good.

942
00:46:19,240 --> 00:46:20,240
That's exciting.

943
00:46:20,240 --> 00:46:21,240
It's time.

944
00:46:21,240 --> 00:46:22,240
Yep.

945
00:46:22,240 --> 00:46:23,240
Absolutely.

946
00:46:23,240 --> 00:46:24,240
So everybody keep an eye out for that.

947
00:46:24,240 --> 00:46:27,760
We'll of course put the updated link in the show notes so that that's there.

948
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:31,520
Visionaries, if you have a vision you'd like to share, don't hesitate to apply to be on

949
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:32,520
the show, by the way.

950
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,080
You can also do that on the page.

951
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:39,360
And again, if you're in a career, if you're in a position where you might be transferring

952
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:43,880
careers and this is going to be a great tool to help guide you on that process.

953
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:48,160
What's another resource that you recommend in the meantime, Teresa?

954
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:53,760
We do offer like free courses and stuff like that.

955
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:58,800
I always reach, I tell people to kind of just look at LinkedIn at your job, Rex, what's

956
00:46:58,800 --> 00:46:59,920
required, right?

957
00:46:59,920 --> 00:47:03,480
If you start there and then you work your way backwards, then you can know, okay, what

958
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:05,800
is it that I have to do to meet this?

959
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:06,800
Right.

960
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,480
TikTok is also an essential place to let's keep it real.

961
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:12,840
That's where most of my information is dispersed.

962
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:16,640
So TikTok definitely use that, you know, but be have discernment.

963
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,680
We'll just take every information, but have discernment.

964
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:20,680
Well said.

965
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:21,680
Absolutely on that.

966
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:23,540
So Vision Pros, thanks for joining us today.

967
00:47:23,540 --> 00:47:28,440
We appreciate having you on the show, Teresa, and we will see you guys all in the next episode.

968
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:29,440
Thank you.

969
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:30,520
Thank you for being here today.

970
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:33,000
I'm really happy that you tuned in to Vision Pros Live.

971
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:37,800
I'm looking forward to seeing your reactions as these episodes continue to move forward.

972
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:39,440
This is going to get more and more fun.

973
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,440
We'll have more and more engagement as well.

974
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:45,200
We'll invite people to participate in the show and thank you for giving us your time

975
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:46,200
and attention.

976
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:47,600
Have an excellent time building.