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hoping to accomplish with the online course? Seven figures, baby. Nice. Awesome. Seven figures. How

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many people will go? Is it a course for the kids or is it a course for the parents? Well, actually

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both because and we can talk about this in the interview. The course is for parents but the

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number one complaint parents offer is that they don't know what to say or how to say to their kids

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about body safety. So I'm actually going to film videos where I speak directly to the kids. They

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can watch together as a family then have a conversation about. That's brilliant. That's

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awesome. And you are so right. Do I use that word? Do I not use that word? What have I already

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learned in school? Is my ex going to get mad at me for teaching this? That's a whole bag of awesome

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that you're producing for parents. Thank you. We have a parents everywhere. Thank you. I can

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reference this too and be like, she said it, not me. And she's a professional. I'm glad you're

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enthusiastic about that because you're my test audience here. I am. I'm loving that. Okay.

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Awesome. So all right. Let's see here. What are, all right, there's proactive parenting

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and protecting those kiddos. What are three like ultra secrets about proactive parenting?

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That's the number one secret. A lot of people think that they don't have the ability to protect

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their kids when their kids aren't around or that their kids don't have the ability to protect

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themselves when the parents aren't around. And that is not true. Number two is that confidence is

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the number one predator repellent. So when you raise a competent child who is comp, who knows

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how to trust her intuition and set boundaries and defend those boundaries, they are less likely to

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be a target for predators. That's huge. Yes. And then third, I would- All right. Welcome in to Vision

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Pros Live. With Jackson Calame, I'm your show host. We'll be doing interviews for visionary

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entrepreneurs and guest leaders who are building fantastic visions out there.

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Awesome. Welcome in my friends to Vision Pros Live. I'm your show host, Jackson Calame,

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founder and CEO of First Class Business. I am so, so, so excited to have CJ Scarlett on stage.

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If you're not doing it already, Google her name. You will learn awesome things about her. She is

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the bad A grandma. I'm going to avoid saying her title for the sake of making sure this reaches as

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many people as possible. But she is that cool. She's dope. She's fresh. She's an OG. Whatever

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cool slang word you want to use, she's absolutely amazing. And she helps parents learn how to

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protect their kids from concerns, harmful things that exist online, in person, et cetera. She's

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super cool. We're going to be bringing her on in just a minute. So be prepared for that. CJ are

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going to rock this session. It's going to be a lot of fun. I have four kiddos. I don't know if you'll

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know that. I have four kiddos that are my world from 12 to 3 years old. Every time I get to talk

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to CJ, and we've talked about 8 to 10 times now on different things she's up to with the brand and

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her vision and how awesome it is and what she's doing with Bark, et cetera. There's so many cool

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things about what's going on with her. I get to learn a little bit more about how to help my kids.

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So every endeavor I have with her is 100% selfish in addition to the fact that I also

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may get to have some influence on the direction of the vision too on occasion. I'm humbled by that.

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Let's talk about these sponsors real quick. Patrick Creighton of Laidback Languages.

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So Patrick is, he knows six different languages. He's mastered six languages and he's an amazing

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teacher. He's got an amazing heart. If you're in a position where you want to learn a foreign

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language for whatever reason, he's your guy. This guy has incredible capacity to understand

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who people are, understand about the cultures, and guide people towards learning languages fast.

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As somebody who speaks Spanish myself and knows what it takes to learn another language,

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I can say that his principles and mine align completely. I was able to pick Spanish up and

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learn it fluently in about four and a half months. It's not because I'm some super genius. It does

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have a lot to do with the diligence and determination, but there are other secret factors. I won't

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steal his thunder. Whereas I talked to him about what he does, I was like, ooh, that's why you're

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that amazing as a coach for language. So then there's Detail Publishing. Detail Publishing,

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for all of you entrepreneurs out there, she is my content marketing queen. She is one of my

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favorite entrepreneurs on earth. One of my favorite people on earth. This is Ashley Detail. She's a

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book publisher, as well as content marketing strategist, worked with the Nomad Capitalists,

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helped them revamp more than 2000 articles, most of which she also wrote, and the amount of R&D

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that it would take to write for one of the top performing financial advisors in the world.

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We're talking about people coming to his conference in Costa Rica who are billionaires

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and multi-level millionaires. It's just insane how deep her brain goes into difficult territories.

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a puppy, and she's an amazing singer. She's so well-rounded. Why is that important? I find that

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the best entrepreneurs and the best servant leaders, those who are helping people win, tend

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to be extremely well-rounded individuals. And as I mentioned, I've worked with thousands and

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thousands of entrepreneurs in different capacities, from restaurant industries, POS companies, to real

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estate and beyond, and she is one of my absolute favorite people on earth. So detail publishing,

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if you're in the process of considering writing a book, publishing a book, or sprucing up your

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content going into the new year, you can't go wrong. Ashley's up to you. And last but not least,

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the water project. In fact, I would say most importantly, if you have access to clean drinking

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water, then you probably don't think about it too often. There are millions of people who do not,

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and I love the water project because I can choose which community I'm helping based on what type of

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project is being done, how many people are going to be affected by it, and your contribution to the

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water project has a generational impact, where kids don't have to go look for water when they

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should have the ability to just focus on school. I love the picture that's on the screen right now.

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These kids look like they're in Christmas Day, and it's because they got access to clean drinking

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water. The humility and the gratitude that exists with that, again, urges my heart to say, you know

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what, how can I help more of these communities do this? Now, I don't have the budget to be able to

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fund every single one of these projects, but I do have a voice, and I can share this for people,

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and I can contribute what I can. My request of you is this, if you're not in a position to contribute

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financially, simply share this. You never know who in your network will end up contributing to this

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by simply putting a voice to the cause. If you feel there's another cause that you'd rather see us

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contribute to, then please drop that in the comments as well. We'll take a look. We might even put it

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tremendous amount of help. Without further ado, let's dive into how we can protect the children

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with CJ Scarlett and her cause for helping parents become excellent parents and proactive in their

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parenting. CJ, welcome to Vision Pros Life. Jackson, thank you so much for having me today.

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I've been looking forward to this for a long time. Absolutely. So from your military background to

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being able to teaching self-defense and going on media tours, and I've just seen your passion and

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dedication to the process of protecting children and empowering parents, I'd love for you to pull

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out some of your own highlights though. What are some of the highlights of your path and journey to

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get to where you are right now? You've got a picture of me there on the screen as a firefighter

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for the US Forest Service. Back when I was 18 years old. Oh my, that's a hard firefighting job too.

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the honor graduate of my boot camp at Parris Island, South Carolina when I was in the United

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States Marine Corps as a photojournalist. Wow. And that's just a picture of me and my boys when

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they were about six and nine maybe. Awesome. And then I believe you have a picture of me with my

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grandkids that's several years old. And I want to say, Jackson, I follow you on Facebook and see the

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pictures of you and your gorgeous children and you guys look so happy and you look like such a great

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dad and kudos to you. I do my best and they raise me well. I'm sure they do.

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Absolutely. So let's again, let's dive in a little bit further too. So some of the,

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you know, let's just dive right into what's your vision for those that you serve, CJ?

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My vision for those I serve, I serve parents, grandparents and other caregivers of kids zero

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to 18. And my vision for them is that they will feel confident in their own ability to

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protect their kids more than they're doing so now. A lot of people have some misunderstandings

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about how dangerous the world is. One on one, the world is safer today than it was when I was born

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in 1961. Crime, however, online is going up precipitously and it terrifies a lot of people

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and it should. And parents are often confronted with these online dangers. They don't know what

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a lot of the online dangers are, but what they do is they're not going to be able to do it.

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And they don't know what the online dangers are, but what they do know scares them and paralyzes

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them. They don't know what to do about it. And there's a lot that can be done. And I hope we'll

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dive into some of that today. Absolutely. So you said something that I'm a big fan of. And it's,

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because I'm assuming it's based in truth, but rather than scaring the entire world about how

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worse everything is getting, you said that at a different angle, that the common mainstream is

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that it's not going to be safe. And I'm wondering if you could talk about it because it doesn't

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drive any clicks. It doesn't drive any fear. You said that the world's kind of getting safer.

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In what ways? I see it too. What ways do you see it? There's less domestic violence. There's less

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sexual assault. There's less one-on-one crimes, robbery, burglary, all of it. The crime statistics

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have been going down and we live in the safest time in human existence. Right. You mean like

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people's heads off or breaks them to the ground. Pikes and yeah, exactly. And destroy his neighbors

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for not paying their rent. I don't have to worry about my landlord doing that to me.

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My role, my goal is to avoid scaring the devil out of the parents and the kids. That's my whole

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goal. There's a lot of information out there that is scary, but I try to add perspective to that

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and add hope by letting them know what they can do to combat those things. I am also a little

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inappropriate and snarky here and there to lighten it up a little bit because these are heavy topics

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we're dealing with. I were talking about bullying and cyber bullying and child sexual abuse and

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assault and kidnapping and sex trafficking. I mean, these are very, very heavy, dark topics.

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Yep. But so I use levity in some cases to keep the parents engaged and keep that coming back for more.

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It's important. You can easily drown yourself in darkness in those areas and I appreciate that

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as well. And I know it's hard. Vision Pro is for listening. Sometimes it takes a little bit of

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breathing just to go through these types of conversations, breathing techniques to make it

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through. I used to have before the water project, our was the entity, the cause that I supported for

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years and years and years and I still support it. It's Operation Underground Railroad and they help

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fight child sex trafficking as well. And I had a team member who absolutely was resistant to us

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continuing with that cause as what I supported because of just the nature of how dark it was.

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And we let go of her before we let go of it, I will say. A love or death, but there's no place

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from hiding from darkness that exists. Putting your head in the sand doesn't make it go away.

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It does not make it better. That's correct. And so I do really appreciate what you're standing for

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and that's why we wanted you on the show. What's your vision for you,

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CJ? My vision for me is to be the best version of myself. I believe that we, I don't know if we all

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have a predestined purpose here in this life, but I believe that if we take life as it comes,

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that we have choices at every juncture to stay depressed or to become a victim or to become a

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perpetrator or to overcome. And in my case with the history of child sexual abuse and two teen

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sexual assaults, and I was almost looking to a sex trafficking ring at the age of 19, I had a lot

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of darkness in my life and I was very much, I clung to the victim mentality myself for a lot of years

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and it was not productive and it didn't get me anywhere. And when I finally claimed my power

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and began to heal from those things and work through the process of healing those things,

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and work through the process of healing those things, I discovered that I am not at the mercy

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of other people in life. I choose all the time. I choose. And so my goal for myself, my vision for

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myself is to make the best possible choices that will lead me to be the best version of myself that

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I can be. I like that another way. I 100% endorse that because that's my humble path as well. Like

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I'm trying, that's what I figure life is about, is being my best self. It took me a while to get to

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where I appreciated that. As I made that transition, I found more peace and happiness in what I do.

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there that got my brain on a tangent. And it was about the danger of these online tools or these

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online programs, shouldn't call them tools, these online programs that people utilize. And even as

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an adult, I need to be protecting myself from what exists out there. And as somebody who also

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specialized in digital marketing, it's not uncommon for a client to say like, why aren't we using

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Snapchat? Why aren't we using TikTok for growth and all of that? I don't have a hard and fast rule

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against it. There's still not enough case studies to convince me that we should go all in on a path

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that way. But one of the challenges I face and one of the reasons why I will never allow my kids,

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I don't know what the other side of the equation will say or do, but TikTok and Snapchat,

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you can open that app, go right to it without any filtering or knowing who you are. You have no idea

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what's going to pop up on that screen. And my kids don't need exposed to that. That's not at their

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age. They wouldn't know what to do with that or how to react with it. It's hard for me to endorse

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and proactively go into a platform that I have to also protect myself from the moment I open it.

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What are your thoughts on that? Well, as an example, a child's first exposure to online

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pornography occurs around the age eight. And the children aren't looking for that. They stumble

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upon it. Mine was four before the internet. Yes. And back when we were kids, you probably ran into

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your dad or your brother's stash of magazines, 30 magazines. But now the information is all over

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the internet. So your child could be researching something for school, something innocent,

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and be led by because of the algorithms, be led down a path into darker and darker content until

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they're viewing pornography and even child abuse scenes online. And so you don't know what you're

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going to get. That's a problem. And a lot of parents let their children have unfettered access

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to these apps and the texting and the chatting and the instant messaging. And where a lot of the

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online conversations go on that are the most dangerous is with the instant messaging and the

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texting. And they don't know what they're they don't know what they don't know. But I also think

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in some cases, they're being willfully ignorant. They it takes work to monitor your child's

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activities. I'm really happy to say that I'm partnering with bark, which is the world's

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leading parental monitoring app company that has apps and a smartphone that monitors your kids

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online activity. And you don't just find your kid, what they do is if they alert you when your child

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accesses content that's not appropriate. If they talk about suicidal ideation, if they view online

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pornography, if they start talking to somebody they don't know in person, bark will the bark app

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will let you know that this is happening so that you can take action. So you don't have to constantly

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spy on your kid. You can just be alert to these to the monitoring that's going on in the background.

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So public reveal, I have not revealed this. I think I've told you about it. I don't know if I

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told you the whole concept. I'm writing a book on parenting. Excellent. Did we discuss that book

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in depth? Well, I need co-authors for it. So if you're interested in co-authoring the book with me,

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it's actually a very simple concept, but it is so neat. And it's on this subject. It's called the

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third parent. And that third parent didn't exist before the internet. But now kids go online to

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see what their parents meant about what they said. And they Google it, Google being the third parent.

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And we got a series coming behind it, the fourth parent, Facebook, the fifth parent, Instagram,

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et cetera, to expose what's happening there, what children are seeing as answers to also prepare

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parents for the conversations that our parents didn't have to prepare for. That didn't exist.

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They could say holistically, you know what, you're just going to have to trust me on this. Or you

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know what, you just don't get it yet. And I bought that. I believe that. And my parents, they were

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protecting me. Nowadays, we have to have more transparent open conversation. So we'll talk about

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this after. But I would love to talk about that. And we are digital immigrants, you and I.

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The internet came into our lives when we were in our, you know, for me, I was in my 30s, my late

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30s when I started using the internet. And I guess I was in my mid 30s. But our kids are digital

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natives. It's like a fish in water. They don't even know there's water there. They're so immersed

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in this online world that it's difficult for them sometimes to tell fantasy from reality.

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And you know, they don't know what's real. They don't know what's true.

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What a powerful correlation for people who relate to that, which I do. That's awesome. Okay. We're

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going to dive into some leadership aspects for the vision pros out there. You've been in leadership

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and you've done so much with your brand, as well as working for other brands, including the military.

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What's your worst leadership experience ever? When I worked for the North Carolina Attorney

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General's Office as the Director of Victims Issues in the mid 90s, I initiated and co-led

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the implementation. This is a mouthful of the nation's first automated notification system,

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which notifies victims before their perpetrators are released from custody. So jail or prison,

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it notifies them 48 hours beforehand because in the olden days you could be standing at the grocery

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store and turn around and your rapist is right behind you and you had no idea that he was even

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out. And so this was being done at a city level, but it had never been done at a statewide level.

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Well, I was only 35 years old when I implemented this and the people I had to bring together,

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all the courts, all the prisons, all the law enforcement agencies, the prosecutor's offices,

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everybody who had different computer systems and didn't even talk to one another and convince them

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to all get in the same boat together. And they were so used to competing for funding and attention

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and everything like that, that they saw each other as the enemy. And then to compound that,

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so I had to manage these very difficult relationships and bring them over to the table.

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But also they looked at me like, who do you think you are? And there were two women, the head of the

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North Carolina Victim Assistance Network and the head of the North Carolina Coalition Against

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Domestic Violence that challenged me every step of the way. They tried to sabotage this. It was

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going to help their constituents, but they didn't like the fact that this 30 something woman,

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year old woman had a project this big in her hands. I mean, I got the million dollars to grant money

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for and everything. And so they tried to make my life a living hell. And that was really one of

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the most difficult leadership experiences I've ever had. I did bring on a gentleman who was

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the head of the court, excuse me, head of the prisons to be my co-chair. And that really helped

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bring everybody to the table. So one of the things I learned there was that when you don't

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necessarily have the experience or the cache to lead yourself, bring in partners, supplement

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your, what you don't know with people who do know. And create those relationships.

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Absolutely. So that's great. So what would, you mentioned that part of it was related to

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an inferiority complex perhaps, and those two leaders, I mean, it was that age. And then

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what else would you define as characteristics that drove those two individuals to lead so poorly?

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I don't know if it wasn't because it wasn't their idea or they just thought I was an upstart

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or, you know, I'm actually not sure what it was. In fact, the chief justice of the state

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Supreme court didn't want the project to go through either. He challenged me. And I'm happy

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to say that this is, it's now been almost 30 years and that system is still in place.

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That's awesome. Absolutely. And there's people who, there's different motivations for challenging

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situations, you know, but there was definitely some clarity around at least the, the perhaps

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the inferiority complex or the politics too, that goes in behind the scenes. That's why it's so

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important to have diplomatic skills, you know, when you're, when you're leading. What would you say

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your best leadership experience has been? This could be yours. This could be anybody's, this could

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be a movie that you saw, but what would you define as leadership? In every leadership role I've had,

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where I've been CEO or in the C-suite, I have encountered tremendous challenges because of the

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growth curve, because I was a military brat and then I was in the military, then I was a non-profit.

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And so moving to government and to corporate was a very different game. And so there's a lot I didn't

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know. And so as challenging as that was at every step, I had the best teachers. I believe the

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bigger the butt head, the better the teacher. So the people that we, we say are our enemies or have

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are want to sabotage us or, or have it in for us, like those two women with that program are our

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best teachers. And so my best leadership experience has been growing more humble and more appreciative

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of the lessons I can learn from the people who support me because they're really there for my

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growth. They're really helping me. They don't know that they're helping me, but they are helping me.

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Right. Sometimes they do know that would be the, that would be like Denzel Washington,

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representing the coach and remember the Titans, right? He's, he certainly had a

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player's best interests at heart, but he wasn't, you know, he wasn't going to mince words about

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what you did wrong or what you did right. And that's, that's an inspiration to me in a world that,

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oh, struggles to embrace that personality these days. I like that the bigger the butt head,

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the better the teacher. That's funny. Funny and true. What powerful lesson, all right,

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if this was the last thing you could share with us, what powerful lesson can other visionaries

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learn from your experience CJ? I would say that what I would hope they would learn from my experience

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is that nothing is impossible. If you are willing to do the work, if you are willing to take the

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hits, if you're willing to get up again over and over and over again, you will succeed in some way.

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It may not look like what you originally envisioned, but you will succeed in one way or another.

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So do not give up no matter what, no matter how far away it looks like you are from your goal.

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You may have to shift your goal and pivot, but you will, you will be happy with the results if

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you stick with it. I love that. I, and that's, I love that you combined it. I don't have to do it

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now. Nothing is impossible. And my immediate thought was, yeah, when you've been as diligent

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as you have, right? Yes. When you've done the work, you know, I'm pretty sure that you've done

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the work. I mean, I'm putting the effort, you've paid your dues to understand what it is, you know,

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you're going for and after. And then you talked about the pivots as well that occur. That was

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beautiful. That's a morning mantra to wake up to if you're listening and you might just cut that

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segment and listen to that over and over by CJ for a few weeks and see your, your, your life flourish.

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All right. So let's dive in a little bit further now on, on protecting the kids and, you know,

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proactive parenting. What, which route do you want to take us CJ on that? This is your call

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because it's your subject. We can go into your books. We can go into talking about the online

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course that's coming up or your active programs currently. Well, I would love to talk about the

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online course actually, because when I talk to parents, the number one complaint I get is that

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they don't know what to say or how to say it to their children about body safety. And so they say

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nothing in my case, my parents didn't teach me anything about my body, boys, bodies, sex, anything.

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So not surprisingly, I became, I got pregnant at 15 and didn't know a thing about what I was doing

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or what was what, forgive the dogs in the background. We love dogs. It's all good.

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Because they were too embarrassed, because they didn't know what to say. They left me unarmed.

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They left me unprepared to deal with a very rural world with, with, you know, boys in it. And,

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you know, again, we didn't have the online world to deal with. It's so much more complex for kids.

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We cannot, we can say we understand where our kids are coming from right now, but we simply cannot.

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Because of the issues they face and the challenges they face in their world today is so

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distinct from the one that we experienced that we can do our best to listen, but we cannot

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really get it. They are living in a totally different reality than we lived in. And the

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good news about that is that they have a lot to teach us. And the other good news is that

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their children have more power to protect themselves than we may believe. If we take action.

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Right. I'm sure it feels loud on your end. On our end, your dog sounds very pleasant.

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Okay. Makes me want to pet your puppy. So the, all right. So going into the children and confidence,

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what are some things that we can do to empower our children with a healthy, healthy dose of

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confidence in who they are? Yes. Because as I mentioned earlier to you, you know,

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confidence is the number one predator repellent. Predators look for children when they're looking

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for victims, they look for children who are unsure of themselves, who need attention or affection or,

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who clearly are not going to put up resistance. And that is not the fault of the child in any way.

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I'm not victim blaming in any way. It's totally the fault of the predator, but they look for easy

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victims. Well, in addition to those who aren't as confident are less likely to communicate.

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Yes. Right. That's I'm going to talk, you know, like I'm going to talk. And so I can see why

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I wouldn't be on somebody's radar. You know, same is true in business. Somebody wants to take

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advantage of me in business. They know I'm going to ask all the hard questions. I'm going to make

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sure that the contract makes sense. And they're just going to go away right away because I don't

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want to, I'm going to do my due diligence. Right. And again, it doesn't justify the criminal

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and what they're doing at all, but you know, it's a very important thing to consider if your child

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struggles to communicate that may be a sign that they're struggling with their confidence. So yeah,

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go ahead and help us see how do we, how do we empower them with confidence?

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We start, it starts with air and diapers. And of course, if you, your child is eight or 10 or 12

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or 15 now, you can start today wherever they are, wherever you are. But you do things like teach

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them about what intuition is, how to trust their gut. And I talk about all these in my books and

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I'll be talking about it in the online course. But if you teach them about their, how to trust their

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gut and their own intuition, you're giving them a magic key that will help them in almost any

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situation. Once they learn how to check in with their gut, or even the parent in their head,

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you know, if you teach your children, what would you think about what I would tell you to do in

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the situation? And your voice is in their head already anyway. But if you teach consciously do

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that and to consciously check in with their gut first before they do something, and if it feels

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okay, and it aligns with their more, their morals and intuition, then go for it. And if it doesn't,

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they need to extract themselves from that situation immediately. The other is to help them set strong

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boundaries. And this, there are exercises you can do with your child to help them establish

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what those boundaries are. Everything from, we don't have to hug someone, we, you know, even grandma,

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if you don't want to, you don't have to allow anyone to touch you, you don't have to tolerate

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bad behavior, you don't have to let someone talk to you in a mean way. And teach them not only

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what the boundaries are, but then how to use their moxie to take action to defend those boundaries.

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So you can teach them, they can say no. If Jackson, if I'd known that I could say no,

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to the people who were hurting me when I was a child, most of the things that happened to me never

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would have occurred. Because I was not going to tell. I was clearly a child who was desperate for

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attention and affection and was not going to tell. And that's why I was victimized so many times.

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this is a tip for parents, a child is more likely to be molested by another kid than they are by a parent.

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for less than 7% of crimes against kids. And when it comes to kidnapping, for example, we think kids

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are being plucked off street corners by strangers. In 2018, only 65 kids were kidnapped by complete

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strangers. The rest of the time they were runaways or throwaways, or they were kidnapped by a

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non-custodian, or they were kidnapped by a non-custodian, or they were kidnapped by a

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non-custodial parents or other relatives or people they knew. And so there's a lot of misconceptions

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out there that I talk about in my books and I try to set things straight so that parents have a

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realistic picture of what's true. Then they know how to follow the advice I share to empower their

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kids so that their kids know when their boundaries are being violated. They know when their intuition

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is going off like a fire alarm and how to take action. Well, you bring up an important fact too

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about the stats. And we're not going to talk about the detailed stats for those who are listening,

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but you can do your own due diligence to gain clarity around realities. And one of the things

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that CJ said was being kidnapped by the non-custodial parent. And I do take issues with

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that reality because my... And don't get me wrong, I understand there's parents that you have to be

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protected from. My dad kidnapped my brothers one summer to bring them down and it was his custodial

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right to have the children. And his ex-wife had called the cops. And so when the cops pulled him

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over with the children, he said, I'm their dad. This is my time with them. They let him go.

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They let him bring my brothers down to see me. And so the world has become a little bit more

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restrictive in relation to that too. Again, not to say that there aren't horror stories. That's why

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we sometimes lean towards, I'd rather stop fully at the stop sign than California roll through it,

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or that's why I'm going to get a ticket for it because a freak accident, something happens.

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It's devastating and it looks bad to society beyond blah, blah, blah. And it's hard. So I

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want to talk about one other angle on this. And it's one thing to prepare kids to know that

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to know that they don't have to accept hugs. Rather they have that healthy boundary.

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like a tooth brushing experience. We're like, okay, tomorrow you don't have to have grandma.

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Tomorrow you don't have to go to grandma. Tomorrow you don't have to go to like, what's that child

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going to think? They're going to be traumatized about that relationship because we took the

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instruction too far. An anxious parent can make for an anxious child. What I recommend in my books

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is that you have monthly family meetings where the family all sits together. They have pizza

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during the meeting or after the meeting or whatever. And everybody takes turn being the leader

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and the timekeeper and the secretary and all that stuff, even for kids as young as five.

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whether you get a puppy, but you also have a body safety topic at the month where you talk about

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something simple and you have a conversation about it and then move on. But there's also

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opportunities for daily sharing. You don't want to do what you were saying, Jackson, which is hit it

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over and over and over again and make your child terrified of the world because the world is not

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as dangerous as we think it is. But you do want to give them enough information that they know what

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they're doing. And so with a few strategic tips, like if they're going to their friend's house to

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spend the night or whatever, you know you can call me and you can even call me if you feel

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uncomfortable or afraid, you can call me and I'll come get you. You can even lie and say that you

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feel sick to your stomach and I'll come pick you up. That's a conversation you have one time.

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remember, you can call me. Just that little sea, that little reminder, but you don't have to be

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a dead horse and scare your kid to death. Right, correct. And you know, I don't think, I think

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every family has a different boundaries too, right? In terms of what's acceptable and what's not.

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I'm a no sleepover guy due to my experiences with sleepovers growing up.

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boundaries and I've got to, now I've got to prepare my kids in this situation. Now you said

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this quote and it's what defines the difference between a concerned parent and an expert is you

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know where to go to for your glossary of like confidence and how to help an ancient, an anxious

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parent can make for an anxious child. I'll be the first to admit, if you haven't caught it in my

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shows, I'm an anxiety person. Like I deal with anxiety. My, in our relationship, we both deal

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with that from different angles too. So I asked that question from my own selfish desire of, okay,

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how do I, how do I help my child when the stranger danger aspect is so predominantly pronounced,

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you know, on the other side of the equation, how do I balance that out and help them understand that

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the world's not as dark and scary as, as it may be indoctrinated on the flip side to throw myself

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under the bus too. My first child is, we're in church, right? She has big heavy doors and she's

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playing in this little foyer that's like silent. It's cool. She can make as much noise as she wants.

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That's not affecting church. So I'm out there playing with her and I'm watching from the couch

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and I see the door starting to shut and her little finger is going to get caught in this heavy door.

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Right? So helicopter dad mode, boom, Superman jumps up. I hit that door to open. What I didn't

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take into effect, end of account was the bottom of the door. So I saved her finger. I crushed her

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toes. Oh no. Yeah. So she, all of her toes, all tear up and boom, just start bleeding. You know,

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I did it. Oh, it was so awful. And I was like, Oh my gosh, she wouldn't have lost her finger.

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She would have been fine. My overreaction completely made this a mess. We're all susceptible

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to making these types of mistakes. It's a little bit like foreigners imagine in United States that

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we have, that they'll get, if they come to our country, they'll get shot instantly. I mean,

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that there are constantly shootings going on. There are shootings going on that you need to

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be aware of, but it's not the level of threat that people on the outside perceive it to be.

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And it's very much the same way with the parenting and the dangers to our kids.

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Parents, some parents believe don't look at the dangers at all and are oblivious to it. They put

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their head in the sand. Other parents are obsessed with the dangers and can't let them go. And

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there's a happy medium. There's a happy medium. You can find where you are educating your child

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and empowering your child and giving them the confidence they need without scaring them to death.

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Yeah, absolutely. So if you're in that situation where you've kind of, you're trying to be the

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voice of happy medium reason, what are some tools as a parent that you can utilize to balance that

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equation out? Well, the daily sharing is an exercise. You know, your kids come home at the

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end of the day, just like you, if you go to work and you have a bad day, you come home and you vent

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to your spouse or your partner. And it feels good to do that, to just let it off your chest. Well,

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our kids need the same thing too. And if we're trying to make dinner and fiddle on our phone

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while they're trying to talk to us, they're going to check out, they're going to stop talking to us.

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Or if we say, how was your day, sweetheart? And they say, fine. And we just let it go with that.

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His day wasn't fine. It was filled with epic fails and laughter and mistakes and all kinds of things

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that you could, that are great to talk about because there are learning opportunities.

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And so those daily sharing opportunities are a great way to stay, to keep your child's pulse.

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Which book of yours dives into the daily sharing the most?

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All three of the parenting books. I have three books for parents, Badass Parenting, which is

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not PG rated. Heroic Parenting, which is PG rated. Those two books are for parents and kids.

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And then Raising Badass Kids, The Safi Parents Guide to Predator-Privileging

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Tweens and Teens is coming out in mid-January. And all of them cover the daily sharing and the

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monthly family meetings. They're basically, they all cover the same kind of content.

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Although I will say that I have a chapter in the new book on how to teach your children about

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sexual consent. That is probably the most important thing I've ever written.

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Right. Yeah. Okay. That's good. And again, I'm kind of thinking selfishly on this path, you know,

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where am I with my- Heroic Parenting is a book for you.

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Heroic Parenting. Cool. I'm going to get it. And that aspect, you know, when my children were in

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kindergarten and first grade, one of my challenges was I kind of expected that by the time they were

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three, we would be able to play chess. I was like, wait a second, this doesn't work.

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Add water. Just add water. Right. And so as we start talking about school,

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you know, I'm getting these fine answers. You're like, it was good, but like they just,

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you know, they're kindergarten. They want to talk about Paw Patrol, you know, or what's coming next,

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not necessarily what's in the past. And so- That's where open-ended questions really become

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important instead of saying, you know, how was your day? It's like, what did you learn today?

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Did anything funny happen? Did anybody get hurt? Did anybody get sad? It was what made you happiest?

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Kind of roses and thorns things about what was the hardest part of your day and what was the best part

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of your day? Questions like that invite conversation. Yeah. And don't shut it down.

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True. True. Absolutely. And I've noticed too, as they get older, they have more patience for the

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process. You know, again, versus like, I thought we were going to go get ice cream. You know,

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or I want to do this now. And I was like, man, I just want to be the- can't you just let me be

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the concerned parent? The parent that's trying to understand the day. But that was definitely

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a challenge for me. All right. So with, we got a couple of minutes left, which I'm excited about,

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because we have more time to dive in than we normally do. Protecting kids. What other aspect

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can- what other things can parents be aware of that's not talked about enough online?

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I would say it's bullying. Bullying has always existed. As long as there have been

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as long as there have been humans walking this earth, there has there have been bullies.

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And people, you know, schools like to tout their zero top, zero bullying policy, zero tolerance,

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bullying policies, but there's no such thing. In North Carolina, for example, like six years ago,

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North Carolina reported zero bullying incidents, whereas 30 something percent of kids report

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bullying incidents. So there's a disconnect clearly. One of the exciting things is, is there's a way

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your child can train bullies to leave them alone. And so there are, there's so much that can be done

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that there's so much content in the books and in the online course that I'm getting ready to put

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together. And if I had a vision for parents, it would be every parent was required to read one of

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these books, not necessarily just my books, but a book on how to teach your kid about these kinds of

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things. So that they are more confident, they are savvy, or they are more empowered, and they can be

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safer kids as a result. Parents have so much power to make their kids safer. Absolutely. So

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the book that has the bullying concept, which which book, all three books, all three books as well.

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The only thing different about race about the third book, the one for teens and tweens and teens is

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that I do not cover abductions, but I do cover sex trafficking. And I also have the additional chapter

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on how to teach a child about sexual consent. But otherwise, the books all have the same basic

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content of who the predators are, what the dangers are, how to teach them about cyber bullying,

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and what to teach them, and what it, and in the in her old parenting and badass parenting, I actually

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break it down by age group. How do you, because how you talk to a three-year-old, your three-year-old

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is very different than how you would talk to your 12-year-old. Right. So in 2024, what does bullying

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look like going into the future? There's so many different types of bullying. And now that the

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online world is our reality, anybody, any person will say and do things online that they wouldn't

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necessarily do in person. And so with that veil of anonymity, kids especially will say and do things

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to troll and humiliate and harass and bully other kids. And the bad, the worst of it is, is that

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other kids will join in partly because they don't want to be the next target. So they will join in

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with the bully. Right. And partly because they don't feel a sense of responsibility because it's

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online and you know, really it's almost invisible at that point. Yeah, that's a real danger.

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That no accountability. And so they're, and then you're learning bullying techniques from the best

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of the best. Yes. You have access to, just like, you know, when I was growing up playing the trumpet,

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you know, I could listen to, you know, Dizzy Gillespie, you know, or Louis Armstrong, whatever

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CD I had, right. I couldn't download whatever music. Now I can go to YouTube, right. I can,

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I can put in trumpet and I can see people do things that will teach you exactly what to do to

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make that happen. Like you're instantly learning amazing things and extremely far more. Yeah.

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For good or ill. Yeah. So I'm really glad you brought that up. I know the bullying instance

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that comes to mind. I had a friend in his early thirties when he was having a birthday, he went

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on to Reddit and he asked for his birthday. He said, he said, I want you guys to roast me.

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And this is a gentleman who struggled with self-confidence. And I told him like, dude,

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delete it. I was like, you're, what are you doing to yourself? You know, why, why are you asking

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people to do this to you? Because, and so roasting is for parents who don't know that's, you know,

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hey, make jokes about me or this person, you know, that are as bad as possible to make this person,

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you know, feel lit on fire. I imagine that that's happening with children as well.

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Yeah. And, and you know, girls do not get a pass on the bullying because they could,

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they're, they're relational bullying is some of the worst because it's emotional and it's so

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emotionally damaging. I mean, you know, a bully can shake his fist in your face and it scares you and

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it's traumatic, but these girls who can do these, not just girls, of course, boys do it as well,

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but, but you see exclusion tactic to take somebody and make them the pariah of the school

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that can follow a child all the way through the rest of your school career.

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Right. You know, it's scary. It is absolutely. There are things they can do.

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Then, yep. And then there's a manipulation of imagery as well. That's, that's becoming

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more common with AI and stuff like that. So educating ourselves is the empowerment towards

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helping our children understand what's going on in the world, which leads them to feel much more

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confident, much safer and be protected. And I got so much out of this conversation. I know our

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audience did too CJ. So I just want to thank you for being on Vision Pros Live. Anybody who's

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listening into, if you have a vision to share, it doesn't always have to be entrepreneurship,

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you know, or related to business. It could be about protecting children. It could be about saving

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the wells, et cetera. Feel free to apply to be on the show. CJ, do you have any last thoughts

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you'd like to share before we go? Oh, I think I lost a little bit. I just want to say that

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the techniques I teach, the advice I give is so simple and it's so doable. And I would encourage

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all the listeners who love a child, whether it's your own or somebody else's to learn these

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techniques because you could literally save a child from being abused or molested or bullied

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or worse. I mean, there are real dangers out there, but they don't have to, you know, you,

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you can make your child not predator proof because that's a promise you can't obviously,

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I cannot keep, but you sure can make them a whole lot safer. And that is worth every bit of effort.

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You can put into it. I love that. Absolutely. And on that, that higher end note to building kids,

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helping kids become more confident leads to more success and better feelings for them as well. So

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yes, all the way through adulthood are good as well. So everybody have a fantastic rest of your

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day and thanks for joining us on vision pros live. We'll see you on the next episode. Thank you,

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Jack. Thank you for being here today. I'm really happy that you tuned into vision pros live. I'm

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looking forward to seeing your reactions as these episodes continue to move forward. This is going

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to get more and more fun. We'll have more and more engagement as well. We'll invite people to

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participate in the show and thank you for giving us your time and attention. Have an.

