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I mean, I Christmas time is my favorite time. So I'm always excited to just enjoy time with family. And honestly, like just eat whatever I want, because I'm pretty disciplined throughout the year, but I'm gonna whatever I want, I'm gonna go have it.

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Yes, I like that. I can agree with that too. I shouldn't do it. But I'm going to I'm not in as good of shape as you are. So I don't I don't I should be disciplining myself, but you're gonna influence me. I'm gonna eat some good stuff this Christmas season.

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Awesome. So empowering a million women and to embrace freedom and faith. Why? Why? What? What? Where did your why come from on this?

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I mean, it's one of those where when you look how society is structured, you're like, I asked the question, why? Like, who thought that was a good idea? Why are things the way they are? Like, I was always that kid to that little kid of like, well, why, mom? Why? Why? Why? Why?

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And like that really annoying one that get in trouble, because I would ask why too many times. So you know, to for me to become an entrepreneur in my adulthood, I mean, it makes sense. But the the faith part is so big because faith has been a huge foundation in my life. Grew up in the church, but it wasn't until I was in my 20s that I was like, you know what, I'm not gonna just take what my parents gave to me and what I grew up with, I'm gonna go figure it out on my own, and actually dig down deep to figure out what this really is. When it comes to business, when it comes to your dreams,

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when it comes to creating that freedom that you want, why are we taking our faith out of it? Why are we taking God out of it? It doesn't make any sense to me. If it's something that matters to you, it should be in all things of what you do. But people like to separate things. And what I have learned the hard way many times is, you know, doing it on our own strength, you're only going to get so much but when you lean on our Creator, you're going to get so much more. And so to me, that is a huge mission. And a lot of people seem to resonate with that.

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That's amazing. What's your best tip for putting God back into it?

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All right, welcome in to Vision Pros Live with Jackson Calame. I'm your show host. We will be doing interviews for visionary entrepreneurs and guest leaders who are building fantastic visions out there.

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Hey, what's up and welcome in to Vision Pros Live. My name is Jackson Calame, the show host, founder and CEO of First Class Business. I've got Molly Trotter Gomez on today with Girl Power Alliance, which I'm obviously a little bit excluded from, but that's okay. She's got a whole audience of women that she's able to empower and help. She reminds me a lot of my five sisters. And she's a great person.

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And I'm excited to see her move this vision forward to empower a million women to embrace freedom and faith as related to also growing business, right? Creating more holistic approaches to how we do things. We're all about that. I'm excited to bring her on. Before we do so, I want to talk about the sponsors. Of course, these are resources for those who are listening. So ColdClick is what we use for LinkedIn automation in our business. And we're going to be doing interviews with her.

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Once I was able to get on my way, if I was starting over, I'd pay Shane $179 for a website. I'd give him whatever information he needed as quickly as possible. And I'd say, go to work, bro. Hook me up, get this done. Because so many people spend so much time trying to perfect their website and it actually distracts them from driving their profitability.

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Busy is broke, productive is profitable. Get the website done. Don't worry about it. Go out there and provide value to people. People will buy from you. They will work with you based on you providing value more than just hoping and wishing that your website perfection is going to somehow get people excited about the wedding.

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It's just an invitation. People don't care that much about what the invitation looks like. They care about you. The same is true in business. Now moving on to the Water Project. My pointing is all off today. Two episodes. Still can't figure out what to point. But the Water Project is a massive opportunity to give back. We all have access. Those of us who are listening, if you don't, let me know. I may want to help you personally, but we have access to water and there's millions of people who don't. This is an amazing opportunity to give back. You get to see the

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community that you're affecting. You get to contribute $1. You contribute $10,000 or more and you get to see the outcome of the project and the generations that you're having impact on by helping these communities establish a borehole well, a sand dam or other programs. I don't know what that was. I learned about it because of how transparent the Water Project is with what they do with their projects. So if you're in a position to give back or to share this with people, please do. Don't let me be the only microphone for good related to this project. In addition to that,

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if you have something that you would like to see us give back to or create awareness for, please just drop a comment in the social media feeds and we'll be happy to take a look at that and see what we can do to help out. Without further ado, Molly Trader Gomez. Welcome to Vision Pros Live.

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Thank you so much for having me, Jackson. I'm excited to be here. Absolutely. So Molly, you've got an expansive business. You've got some business partners involved with it. There's different levels and opportunities for how you're going about in the future.

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How you're going about inspiring women to work with you. My question is who should be listening and why should they be listening to you? Well, in the beginning, when you opened up this podcast, you were saying you felt a little excluded. You're not alone.

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There's actually a lot of men that have voiced their opinions that they feel excluded. So we're actually launching a men's side called Roman Alliance in January 2024. So I have to throw that in there because men have seen the transformation that women have been able to have.

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In just this community, these resources, this opportunity. And they're like, what about us? Men have needs too, Molly. Exactly. I said, well, what about you? And then we're like, oh, okay, I got you. You want something.

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And so then it's now building out basically duplicating what we already have, but by men format. So throwing that out there. So who and why should they listen? So really, I mean, I'm going to be talking more about Girl Power Alliance because that is the side that we first started.

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Been around for a couple of years and women that are looking to take like what this time next year looks like. They want it to be different. They want opportunity. They want to be able to spark that dreamer up again because life is beat you up a little bit.

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Let's turn that back on and let's go after it. There's an opportunity here that's going to help you financially free up your time to be able to go after and get that and give you the resources to have inside out transformation.

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There's a lot of quick surface level fixes out here. Obviously those don't work because they only go like so far deep here. It's that inside out transformation. And then we bring the faith component into it because why would we exclude it when it comes to growing ourselves personally, professionally and financially. So those are the people that should be listening.

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I love it. And you've got an extensive multimedia background yourself. So which means you know how to lead. You know how to lead on camera. You know how to lead when you're put on the spot so that you've got all these extra superpowers that exist. But I'd love for you to also define for us. Where does your background come from? What is what are some of the highlights from your perspective on your own resume?

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Yeah, I would like to say that there, you know, anybody could say I've lived a lot of life, but I've had a lot of really great equipping experiences is what I would label it as. So my first professional career, I was a news anchor and reporter. I got into that to really tell stories in regards to just I thought there was a lot of good ones to tell.

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When I got to the news, I was like, wow, these are very depressing. If it bleeds, it leaves all this like doom and gloom. And I'm like, people want to wake up to that, listen to that all the time. And it's literally just fear all over the place. So I looked at it as you know what, I'm going to get as much as I can out of this. I anchored I did sports, I was a reporter, I did weather I tried everything that I could to really be able to get that experience. From there, I actually got into the industry of network marketing. So I said, Well, and the

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pockets of my time, I need to make money because the news industry pays pennies. I know that may sound shocking, but it's true. So I got into that to start creating some freedom. And then as I was growing in just growing a team and whatnot, which I really learned a lot when it comes to leadership, network marketing, hands down, no matter what you think about it, your experience, when you have the right leadership, right opportunity and environment, you can have great leadership experience and just a place to grow yourself. And that's the beauty about that industry. Well, I learned,

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that I had a great skill set because of being on camera for so long. So I actually got into coaching and helping people really discover their bold, authentic voice. And how can they share that with the world? So I worked with a lot of very high level entrepreneurs that have big businesses, but did not do very well when it came to sharing their information or their story on camera. So that was my expertise is how can you get your things out there and have it be converting into more

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sales, into more, you know, just people buying your product. So when it came to Girl Power Alliance, it's so, it's so amazing when I look back and seeing all these different things and how it came together, because Girl Power Alliance is a place where experts can come in to pour into you to help you be equipped. It is a place where you can leverage and harness the power of a team like network marketing, because it is a network marketing opportunity. And it is a place where I actually get to pour out a lot of my skills. I'm one of our Speaker Academy coaches. So we have a 9-MUX Speaker

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Academy that helps people just have more impact with less words. Who doesn't need that? A lot of people talk a lot. Let's peel that back and actually share what people want to hear to get them to click, to buy, to connect, to network, you name it. So that is kind of like the short version of how all of that came together. But I've been in front of the camera for, I mean, well over a decade, well over 10,000 hours, which they say over 10,000 hours, you become a master at it. So here we are.

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Love it. And that's awesome. And that's, that's, people would say that was a lot of words, but that was a lot of very purposeful, clear words that give a whole lot of transparency around where you come from, what you've accomplished, where you're going. Well done.

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You talked about the vision. You talked about the path of the vision and what that path looks like for, for somebody who works with you. I want to know about that destination.

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What's the vision for those you serve as far as they've gotten to that destination on the other end, what does life start to look and feel like?

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Gosh, I mean, they can breathe. They have a smile on their face. They can create memories without having to look at a block of, I have to be here, there, or somewhere else. When they rather be with people they love or doing something that really fills their cup.

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A lot of people will step into a job or just some way to make money because they have to, right? We have bills, we have to make ends meet. But when you're on the other side of this vision, now it's about legacy, generational within your own family.

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Also, I meet women all the time that I run through this question of, you know, you wake up tomorrow and eight figures hits your bank account. You don't know what eight figures is. I also get that question. I don't know how much money that is, which says a lot.

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Anywhere from 10 to 99 million, what would you do? Hands down, the first thing that comes out is, of course, paying off debt. And then I want to be able to give to some organization, they have some kind of legacy dream on their heart, whatever that may be that needs obviously resources and a team and all the things.

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And so being able to get that in motion to really be able to leave a legacy that is so much bigger than yourself. So many people have that dream, but they get stuck in, I just need to get by this month, or I just have enough of the next couple months. But that's unrealistic. That's unattainable. People get stuck in that limiting belief. So women on the other side of that get to be the possibility for other men and women to be able to see what that looks like. And we need more of those examples.

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Absolutely. Well said. What's your vision for yourself? What do you see for yourself in the future?

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Gosh, well, first and foremost, I don't have a family just yet. So my husband and I've been married for a couple years. So future family definitely going to be in the mix at a couple kiddos in there. That is that is huge because legacy is everything. You know, when I was building just I knew I was going to build something big in business. I always had that inside of me.

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But deep deeper down, it's about the legacy that that you leave, like with your your children or the family and the people that you love around you. So that is huge for me huge for my husband as well. But right now we're both entrepreneurs and our businesses are babies. So here's we are here we are, and we get to pour all our time into that. So big picture, kind of like the title that goes along with this is helping over a million women not only be able to experience that freedom, but then how can we make sure that we're not just the same people that we are?

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How can we help them help another million or couple thousand or 10 to 1000s and find that ripple effect of what it looks like to be the possibility and what it also looks like to really leave a legacy and partnering with God to do it. There's so many people that are like, I got it on my strength, my strength, my strength, what I can do. And I'm reminded of this phrase of you can go faster alone, but further together. So I was always like, How can I do this on my own? But now my vision is so much more expanded, where it won't just be a million,

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it's going to be millions, but it's not for my glory, it's for his and just opening up what's possible for all these other women because they have dreams, visions that only they can go out there and do. So it's like, how can I empower others to lead so they can step into that and then lead more and just have that ripple effect all around the world.

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I love that. You mentioned twice now, the strength that comes from kind of turning things over to God. And I want to honor that. One of my favorite scriptures was, and I believe it's Paul, I think it's in the book of Acts, and he's dealing with this, what he calls a thorn in his side. He's got this problem, whatever it is, you know, we all have different problems, but it's something that he's asked God on three different occasions to help him overcome. And if we look at that in the service,

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it's like, well, you know, genies lamb, probably in three times. No, I think he was, I think it was like a sincere request, probably a lot of fasting and a lot of struggles involved with trying to overcome whatever the heck it was. And at the end of the day, he kind of concedes and he says to God, you know what, if you don't want to remove this problem from me, I'll accept it because it's giving me a sense of humility as well. I can never claim that I'm perfect. You know, or maybe this is protecting me from my

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own sense of pride by having this debilitation. So I'll glory you God in the process of deciding to allow me to struggle with whatever it was. And that's him exercising that same faith of saying the strength doesn't need to come from within. I need to be grateful for God and what he's given me in my life, no matter what it is. So I just want to thank you for sharing that twice. Do you have any other thoughts you want to add and try

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to triple down on that? I love that you brought that up and you personalized it because so often, you know, scripture can be very dry. I remember when I first started reading the Bible, I'm like, I don't know a thing that this is saying. It's a book. Books are dry.

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They are. Until this is why it's called the, you know, the bread of life, the word of life, like it lives, like it will speak to you if you're open to it. I remember reading scriptures like that. And I would just brush over and being like, okay, yeah, that's cool. But my flesh was like,

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yeah, no, that sounds terrible. Let's move on to something else. That's going to actually be beneficial to me until I got to the place where the humility part, the Lord's like, I don't know how many times I need to humble you. And I tell people jokingly, I should have prosthetic legs at this point. The amount of times you have to like cut me at the knees of like, are we going to keep humbling you until you figure it out?

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Um, like it's not about you. It's so much bigger. And there's things that we have to go through. There is suffering because as Christians, that is Christ. Christ like is to be a Christian in Christ suffered for us. So why wouldn't we have suffering? And in the midst of that suffering is it enjoyable? No, but there's a dining that we're finding that you need to have happen. So it's, it's not to scare anybody. It's, it's a part of it. And most people don't want to talk about it because it's not the sexy part. It's not the glorifying. It's not, it doesn't look good. It doesn't look good. It's not, it's not the sexy part. So it's really important.

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hard, something glorifying. It's not, it doesn't look good and it doesn't feel good, but know that

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you're on the right track and just surrender and be like, okay, what's next? What's next?

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You know, so that, uh, I'll believe it too. I didn't find that on my own. Um, I was, I was a

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missionary. Um, so you think, oh, well, he found it. Cause it, Nope. I was a missionary and I was

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meeting with the therapist for the mission, um, on a, on a monthly basis, sometimes bi-monthly,

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um, because what we go through is extra intense and hard. And I was willing, I knew I needed the

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extra help. And it was him who guided me to that, that scripture and point. I was like a thorn in

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your side. I don't know what this means. I was 20, you know, I wasn't too big into analogies yet.

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So there was a lot of opportunity and it's, it's again, that's why things like the Girl Power

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Alliance are so important, right? Finding people who appreciate that and can bring the color and

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the life into those words that we sometimes can't catch on our own. Let's dive into a dark subject

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though. What's your worst leadership experience ever? Oh, um, I'm just going to go with the one

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that immediately like pops up. So I've had experiences, um, in my past where I've always

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tried to find like a female, right? A female to lead me and the door is always shut. So I was

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just like, okay, well I'll go find a male. And I'm not going to like say it was just one, there are

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multiple, but there's a reason why most women need to find a female mentor. Most men find a male

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mentor because sometimes there can be crossover and there is definitely a lot of just manipulation,

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a lot of like trying to tap into the feelings to be able to get me to do what they wanted me to do.

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And I was young and naive and stupid. I was like, oh, well maybe. Um, and so there was just a lot of,

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you just have to really be careful. And back then I didn't have discernment really, truly knowing,

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okay, what are your true intentions? I'm like, you're going to be able to help me get from here to

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here to here. But along the way, there was just a lot of manipulation, um, in a variety of different

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like not to be able to fall into that just because it looks good, because the world can look and

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sound good and have all its glitter and sparkle and all the things, but it doesn't mean that it is.

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So you have to really sit with it and be like, okay, well, is this the best move? Even if you have

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to wait, like that, that I wish I knew that sooner. I wish I was more patient, but the older I am,

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the older I get, I'm just like, I'm going to, it's definitely worth the wait. So wasn't a particular

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situation just more like I learned and no thank you. And obviously it would never happen to me

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people to have to go through that. And it really was like, well, I took responsibility and I looked

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from within, well, what was I looking for? Why would I fall for that? Why didn't I do better?

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Not blaming myself, but just took responsibility of like, okay, let's not fall into this trap again.

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realities, female versus male mentors. Um, and there's manipulation that can occur.

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I mean, across the spectrum, the, the way I look at that is I try to see like, okay, well, first

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off, where do I want to go? Um, and I like, what do I want to accomplish in my life? And as I've

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progressed and wanted to become more successful and have success in different capacities,

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you know, do I want to have a mentor who's only money-driven for instance, right? No, not in my

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case. So then I need to be careful with people who are highly money-driven to take what they say with

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a grain of salt, right? My sisters are some of my best mentors in life. Um, you know, my mom,

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huge, um, as a mentor, my, my dad as a mentor, mostly taught me what not to do. Um, you know,

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and there was certain things too, that I picked up from the good side. Here's, here's what I'm

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getting at. As I've watched the most successful people in my life, I've realized they have an

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coach, they have a legal advisor, they have a PR advisor, they have this, that, and the other.

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They have so much depth. They don't say, I have a coach. You will never, I will never hear a person

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making more than eight figures, nine figures, 10 figures, simply say, I have a coach. Um, I don't

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need you. Right. They, they, there's, there's this holistic idea, but I love what you're saying.

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In relation to being an alpha male, in relation to being my best self as a guy, it's probably also

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important that I incorporate a male role model to also guide me through that process. So what else

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I think that, I think that most people in life go through one without a coach. And I think that

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without a coach, two, they then get that coach who tells them, I'm your coach. Don't listen to them.

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Ooh, that is the most toxic level of coach. And I see it all the time. One who's holding on for

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dear life to their paycheck and prevents that person from going to where they actually need to go

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without them. Let's hit it. Oh gosh, that's so good. And it's funny, as we're sitting here,

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I actually do remember a situation of like a specific person of that manipulation and just,

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it brought me back to this place of like, I just felt so enraged when I figured it out of how he

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was trying to manipulate me, not only professionally, but sexually and who's married and was a man of

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faith and still doing this stuff to this day, to the point where I'm only saying this because if

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there's anybody out there that knows somebody like this or has experienced this, like call them out.

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Cause I didn't, I told the CEO of the company, this was one of the top leaders of this company.

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I said, I will go put this person on blast. Don't think I won't go tell him to start barking up this

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tree and to leave every woman in this company alone if he's married and he is married or was

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at the time. Because I wasn't like, I took that. I'm like, if you're trying to do this to me,

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like I can only imagine somebody else that has a weaker mindset and it's just so much more like just

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unsure. And so it got me so frustrated, but I love that you said as a male like mentor, and I'm not

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saying there's amazing male mentors out there. I have a lot of friends that are great mentors.

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There's people that I lean on now, a totally different season, but finding somebody else.

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I can also point you and show you the way like it's so important because we can get caught up in our

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own stuff. So I love that humility that you mentioned of let me find somebody else that can

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also maybe see my blind spots porn to me who is pioneered and gotten before me. So I know that

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I'm following somebody that is in the trajectory of where I want to go, which is also important.

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And that's the reason why I actually went to male mentors when I was younger is because none of the

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female ones had what I wanted, or it's like butting heads with women because they're in

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competition, which is a huge reason why GPA, girl power alliances, what it is, it's, we don't need to

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be in competition. That's a lie from the enemy. And it is literally played us all up until now.

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So it's like, let's find those people, humble ourselves. How can we learn and grow? Because I

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used to be one that never wanted my blind spots to be shunned because I would take the, I'd be

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offended. I would be like, I'm not, I would spy until I had a huge inferiority complex to growing

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up. So I get that. Yeah. It's hard to overcome. I think a lot of people, again, listening, are

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going to be like, Oh, she did it. He did it. I can, I can do that too. I'm right. Safe space,

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find your clan, find new people to do that. Let's talk about your best leadership experiences. What

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is, what is your best leadership experience look like? I would say when I first got into

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entrepreneurship, I was actually very blessed getting into network marketing, which is, you

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know, not entrepreneurship per se, but a taste of kind of having your own business. And then also

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really getting into entrepreneurship. I had pretty good mentors at the start of both of those

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different trajectories. Very grateful for that faith led people, very gracious, humble, led by

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experience led by example. And so again, you had those bad situations. You're like, I don't want

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that again. So let's go the other direction. So I remember when I first got into, you know, trying

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to build a side hustle for myself, a network marketing, the first two mentors that I had were

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just like loving parents and led by example and just were like anything that you would need. And

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were just such a pillar of leadership, not only in their marriage, but just how they showed up. It

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was like, that's what I want, you know? And they didn't put on this facade. Like they were also

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real at the same time. And that's something that's also important is if you find these people that

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look too perfect, like do a little digging, there's going to be some stuff in the closet.

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Everybody has it and that's fine. But I liked seeing the reality. You're saying people are human.

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Like leadership human. I know. Bummer to figure that out. But

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good to know. I didn't mean to steal your mic though.

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I mean, just really at the end of the day, I'd like my best leadership experience is my first

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dabbling in entrepreneurship network marketing, if you will. Just a great couple that came alongside

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to give me a taste of like what true leadership looks like. And just, you know, like truly

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empowering somebody to lead, not manipulating them. So I'm glad that that was my first taste.

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Because I mean, after that, I had other experiences and I was like, no, it shouldn't be this way.

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I've had something else to compare it to. And then it really just set me off to how I want to lead,

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how I want to pour in, empower others, meet others where they're at. And if they want to

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go higher, then they have a helping hand. Not somebody who's trying to force them,

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but somebody will be bold enough to ask, take the leap. And so I had people in my life that

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did the same thing to me. Wow. That's great. We're going to come back to that for sure.

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And before we do, what powerful lesson can other visionaries learn from your experience? And I

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always like to add in, if this was your last opportunity, Molly, to share a powerful lesson,

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what would it be? I would say,

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hmm, this is a good question. This is really good with other visionaries

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truly holding on to fight for people's possibilities while they fight for their

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limitations. You may have to do that for yourself first, because as a visionary,

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you get a lot of people trying to put water on the fire of no unattainable, not going to work.

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Who do you think you are? And when you have a big vision and you're around voices like that,

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you need to be able to get out of that environment to be around other people who are going to pour

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into your possibilities and not speak into your limitations. And so for visionaries, like really

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being able to, even if you're the only person to say it's lonely at the top, whether you're at the

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top or wherever you are, it will be lonely. But then eventually when you are so convicted

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and you show that conviction to other people, people will start to gather around because

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everybody wants to be connected to something bigger than themselves. And that could be your

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thing. So be bold enough to take that step, be bold enough to fight for it, be bold enough to even

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help other people fight for it along the way, because it's only going to be able to build your

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belief and just pour deeper into your vision, especially if your vision involves other people,

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which also the time it does, especially with the one that I have, it's so much bigger than me.

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It doesn't matter if I did all the things I wouldn't be able to do it because our company is so big.

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It's a matter of how you're going to be able to do it. And so I think that's the key to being

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a part of the process. It's a matter of we having thousands and thousands and thousands of people

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doing their own thing. They're little bits following the process to create this conglomerate of

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freedom and possibility and opportunity for people. So never doubt the mustard seed, right? We all

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know the mustard seed, tiny little seed, but it can have such a huge harvest. And we're not, it's

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not up to us when the harvest comes. Just keep watering it, watering it, watering it when the

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harvest comes. And if you're a part of the vision and you're tending to it, you'll know. And other

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people will know too, but you knew how you knew what it was like in the beginning of, hey, can I

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do this? Can I not be the only one if it starts that way to fight for your possibility because

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that vision is worth it. I love the law of the harvest. Um, so I'm glad you brought it up. And

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everybody who wants to know more about that, I would start with just a YouTube of law of the

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harvest. Um, you know, and pick out what you get out of that one. That's usually how I start my

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studies on new topics. Um, so with, with the next step, um, we've got a couple of directions that I

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want to go here, uh, to center myself. We're going to be talking about embracing freedom, of course,

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and faith and the resources that exist there. I also want to perhaps expand some of the paradigms

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out there. I'm going to spend a little bit of time roasting network marketing a little bit. Um,

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and it's like, what are you going to do this to her? Like, no, bring it on. I love it. I love this.

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So bring it on. I know you do. Um, and that's cause you're a great leader and you understand

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that it doesn't matter if we're talking corporate or small businesses or startups or family or

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non-family or whatever else, like there's an opportunity to look at the different spectrums

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of, uh, from all different paradigms. So, uh, I don't do very rarely get involved in any

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network marketing things. And I don't want to say I never will again, because I don't,

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I don't set permanent limitations. You know, I don't, I don't know where life will take me. Um,

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maybe I will run a network marketing company someday. I just don't see that ever happening.

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Right. It's like, and, and so there's so many people who put their fingers up like this,

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you know, to anything network marketing, anything realtor, anything REI, any, anything coaching,

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anything, it doesn't matter what the sports, you know, um, network marketing has a notorious

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reputation for driving people towards failure. Um, you know, and causing people to overcommit

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to something they don't understand. Um, and, uh, nobody wins only the people at the top,

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right? That's the, that's the full roast, so to speak. There's also a lot of manipulation

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that occurs in the contracts behind the scenes and in the stipulations. That's,

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that's also called life. Um, by the way, everything. So there's this thought that,

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and I'm going to rant for a while. Uh, if that's okay, you okay with that? Oh, yes. Yes. Okay.

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Give it all. So, you know, here's, here's Dwight, uh, not Dwight, the other guy. I don't watch the

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office. I don't remember his name, but he drew on the board, the pyramid, right? As he's explained,

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explaining the idea of network marketing and why it's, you know, so, you know, it is a pyramid,

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you know, in, yes, a founder, right? Managers or C-level executives, managers, employees, uh,

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parents, children, grandchildren, um, all structured relationships are built like a pyramid.

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You could argue, no, we go by the organizational tree. We grow from the ground up. So does a

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network marketing company. If you just flip the pyramid over, right? Which he does to prove his

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point in, in the whole scheme. Here's my bigger point. When it comes to network marketing,

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I know there's a reason for people to be upset about it. I get that.

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I understand that you've been burned, right? Or that you've put yourself in a bad position

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by, by diving into something because your uncle's brother said it was great, you know, whatever.

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Like I get that. But 99% of people who go into those schemes, those opportunities have no desire

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to be at the top. They don't, they don't want to. And that's okay. I'm not saying you didn't. You're

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the one who's like, oh man, no, I wanted to be there. I'm so sorry you didn't make it happen.

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Like, I'm so sorry they held you back. But most people join passively on purpose. They just want

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to belong. They just want to be involved in that experience. So when you use those metrics to tell

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a network marketer, your program does not work. You do not sound smart because they weren't trying.

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They weren't all trying to get to the top. It's a con, it's a convoluted pro, there's a lot of

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variables involved in this. I have to own the fact that my move from missionary work into network

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marketing was what saved me from going down the university path that was not cut out for,

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and gave me the basis to realize, oh my gosh, all my training skills exist in the real world.

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All this, and it gave me the basis of success magazine. It gave me the chance to listen to

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John Maxwell and find out about Darren Hardy and Jim Rohn. And I had mentors and families,

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just like you said, couples who took me under their wing and tried to help me figure out how

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to launch and build, even when I moved out of my market. There was another team that took me in,

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even though they couldn't make me a single dime. So no, network marketing is not evil.

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It is not the problem. We can maximize the opportunity that exists there if we look for

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the wholesome, the harmony, and look at the structure of the company, integrity of the

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leaders and the virtues that exist within it, which is why I was so excited to bring you on

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board, Molly, because I do look at the structure of that. I'm like, huh, here's some leaders that

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might be building something super amazing that builds on the virtues and values that do exist

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within that type of structure. So as we go into embrace freedom and faith, the floor is yours.

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I love that you dove into all of that beautifully said. There are so many people that have

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network marketing, PTSD, just the short term, right? It's just what it is. And so I mean,

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that story that from my bad leadership experience, that was in a network marketing company that could

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have tainted me for life of like, it's just a bunch of pigs, a bunch of guys who just want to,

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I'll be honest, get in my pants and then like make money for me. Like, let's be honest, but it did.

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So I was like, people are flawed, but this system, the structure of how network marketing works,

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it is an industry that creates more millionaires, more than the MLB, NBA lawyers, the president's

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United States, like you can make great money there and really be able to leverage the efforts of many.

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Now, I got to fact check you on that though. I don't have the fact check. I just got to ask

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you for the resource. Now that you've made the claim, I want the resource on it. And we, if we're,

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you know what I mean? Like I got to get that for our audience at some point. I would love to.

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I want to prove that concept too, right? It's cool. That's something we should know about and endorse

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given that it's fully true. Yeah, absolutely. No, it's so back to the, when I talk about leveraging

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the efforts of many, most people are like to get triggered. You're just making money off me.

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Somebody's making money off you somewhere. It doesn't matter where you shop. It doesn't matter

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if you go get fast food, you go to Macy's, you go anywhere. You're making somebody money

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because you are spending money. So why not create something? And what we call it here

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Girl Power Alliance is it's like a virtual franchise. Because here you're not selling a

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physical product. You have access to tens of thousands of dollars of coaching resources to

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poor India. If you were to go to any one of these experts, you'd be spending a lot more than what

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your arm membership is costing you. And then you can share that with other people, get it paid for.

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So the part about network marketing is find a product that you like. You're going to share

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with other people if you like it and then be intentional about it. The reason why most people

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don't have success in network marketing are a couple of things. One bad leadership, period.

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Yes. Bad leadership. That is huge. The company could have a great compensation plan, great product,

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all the things, leadership, terrible. Number two, self-belief. Most people don't have enough belief

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in themselves to go after and do an accountability. I'll tack that on there to go do what they say

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they're going to do. Whether it's a couple hundred dollars a month, getting their products paid for,

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you know, being able to create the magical number of $10,000 a month that everybody wants to create.

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If you're not making 10 grand, then it doesn't work. But you said, which I love, that everybody's

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going into it to go to the top. Not many people can hack it to get to the top. And so they have

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other visions too, right? And I'm with you on that. There's lots of people who can't have,

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and it's hard, you know, you don't want to tell a child, you're never going to make it to the NBA

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because we don't know what's going to happen. Right? At the same time, there comes a point

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in said child's life, right? We're getting to 17, 18, 19 years old, where it can be helpful to

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have a coach who says, here is your list of debilitations. Here are the things that are not

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adding up here on this path. And there's coaching opportunities in the NBA. There's recruiting

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opportunities in the A, but there's training opportunities in the, like, it would be so helpful

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to have that person who helps you. I hear you redirecting that and saying that they, you know,

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that may not be what you're meant for, but you know, you also tie this to faith. So I have a

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feeling you use some superpowers there as well. Yeah. I mean, it's, I mean, when it comes down to

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it, we have our own timeline of when we want to hit something, but when you bring God into it,

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when you bring your faith into it, it's, it's a whole different ball game. It really is. There's

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a lot of, okay, I got to work on this and I have to take responsibility of what I'm coming in with,

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what I need to let go of, what I need to relearn and then be able to be coachable and follow the

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system. Period. Most people have too much pride to follow a system, too much pride to say they're

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not doing something. They're not connecting with enough people, not following up, you name it.

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It's just business, whether you're in network marketing, you're in coaching or anything like

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you have to go be great with people. Like John Maxwell, you brought him up. He has amazing,

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just series of books when it comes to, you know, how to win friends and influence people. You know,

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one of my favorite, it says no limits by John Maxwell, where it's really raising your capacity.

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Like there's so many great books to work on self and network marketing gives you a space to do that.

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People have gone before you to pour into you. But when you bring the faith aspect into it,

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it's really a refining process on like anything else of like, okay, where am I at? Where's my

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belief really live? There's a lot of people I hear that say they have faith. I will tell you having

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a faith based company, I see so many of people that have faith and I put air quotes and I mean

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this very nicely, but they really don't. They're like, uh, yeah, I'm out of here. I can't do this.

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You know, and instantly they cower back to what was the problem when they take that lead,

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because the problem was comfortable. So many people are so comfortable sitting in their

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problems and their limitations in current circumstances. That's comfortable to them,

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but taking that leap of taking a bet on themselves, it takes growth.

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So you might have to hit the wall a couple of times or it might take a couple of months or years.

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A lot of the people that I know in network marketing that have made millions,

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a lot of them have been in for like a decade and probably millions before a decade. But would you

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be in something for 10 years if you could make seven figures plus here? Some people say yes.

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Some people would say no. For me, I'm like, if I can have time freedom, thank you. Yes. Because

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when I start my future family and we have kids, like, I don't want to be chained to this computer.

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I don't want to be chained to somebody else's schedule. I want to create my own. And that's

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the beauty about this industry. So it's just a matter of how bad you want it and following the

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system and going to get it. That's your responsibility. Nobody else's. Well, you used a

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two letter word that's so important. You said it depends on how much you want it. It also depends

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on how you defined it. Right. So there's, I didn't learn start with why from Simon Sinek, although I

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love the book and I love this concept. I love him as a, as a coach and teacher. I think he's amazing.

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I learned it in network marketing. Right. That's where I learned to start thinking about my,

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and I already had a couple of big wise. I was blessed with that. Right. But after this,

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this gentleman told the story about the why and being on two different skyscrapers and crossing

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this board, you know, would you cross the board to get to the other skyscraper? Never. You know,

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what if the building was on fire over there? Would you do it? No. What if your baby was over there on

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the burning building, you know, and a heartbeat, you know, we were all like, yeah, we would all

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cross in that circumstance. Like that's your why your why should be powerful enough to make you cry.

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What wise do you have in your life that drive you forward? He had such a great ability to motivate

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because he got us thinking about those purposes. A lot of times it is beyond the money,

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but the money gets talked about so often or the, the immediate desires get talked about so loudly

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that some people don't catch the essence of, of what's possible in the beyond, you know? And,

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and so anyway, I kind of went a little bit too deep on the philosophy aspect of that,

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but with embracing freedom and faith and the resources that you, you have, what is

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from the resources that you'd like to share with the audience? Gosh, there's so many in there.

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We have everything from certification courses to get you certified and elevate you in leadership

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and speaking over probably eight live mentorship and training calls every month. And then in a

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whole library of over 200 plus modules of on-demand learning from experts. My favorite though have to

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be our certification courses because the deeper dive that it takes when you take that bet on

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yourself, our radiant leadership academy, it's a 16 week deep dive into biblical leadership.

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What does that look like for a woman? You know, and we'll eventually have something when it comes

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to the, the male side, right? But really taking that deep dive and the thoughts you think,

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the words you speak, how you steward your wealth, your finances, the leader that you're called to

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be. And just, it's like, it's like a proverbial onion. Like you're just, you're peeling back over

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and over and over. So that is so important to focus and pour into your own cup. Then our speaker

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academy, it's currently called the radiant speaker academy, but we're opening it up to men now. So

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we're going to call it the kingdom speaker academy. We're rebranding that currently. But that is a

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huge piece for me because that's my background. If I can help somebody have more impact and really

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share what's on their heart and bring them the right, you know, structure, strategy,

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tools, so they can get what's inside out. Like that to me, just watching people light up.

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We had some speakers this year that became certified where they actually got to deliver

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their speeches on a stage. And I mean, we're talking to women that have never would have

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stepped foot on the stage before. One of those, my favorite example, she's a dairy farmer from

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Wisconsin, never been a leader before in her life. She milks cows every morning, but she wants to

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retire from milking cows. So she came here and she's been in network marketing for decades,

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never really made money. But here and then watching her share her story on stage when she's

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never even picked up a microphone. That's what I'm in it for. We all want the big leader that

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can come in and bring the masses. I'm also in it for the people like the dairy farmers of Wisconsin.

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Like that to me means everything. So those two are really pivotal to give a deep dive.

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But like I mentioned earlier with the live call, the on demand library, it really can suit anyone

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in any season of life that they're in. So they're able to come in here, point at themselves and then

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leverage that they can share that with other people and be able to create a, you know, passive

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residual income if they choose. It's not one of those opportunities that we're going to force you

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into it. Like, come on, it's like, it's up to you. I'm not here to force you to do anything.

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And network marketing has a bad rap of that of like forcing people to do what you want them to do

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you want them to do rather than what they want. Or as you can see on the screen, our CEO and founder,

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great friend of mine, obviously business partner, Michelle Schaefer, she talks about this game of

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tennis. It's like, I'll hit the ball to you when you hit it back, then I know it's game time. And

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like how fast you want to play tennis back and forth is completely up to you. Because I'm not

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going to, I'm not going to sit here and drag you across the finish line. You have to want it,

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but not enough people want it. We talked about what it is bad enough. It doesn't burn bad enough.

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And so it's like taking a chance and being in the right environment to show you what's possible.

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That also matters. People speaking the same language, same foundation, belief system is huge.

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That's why we're the faith part into this because it all matters and the world wants us to be quiet

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about that. Well, look at the world. It's a hot place.

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Do you want to be part of the world or do you want to be part of the few? And when I say the few,

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again, it's, you know, if you're surrounded by people in your life that are negative Neds or

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negative Nancy's, right? If you're surrounded by people who love the news, you know, like love

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listening to people screaming at each other about politics all day long and nothing, nothing wrong

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with that, right? It's, it's fine. It's their choice on the flip side, though. If you shift

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into somebody, into a personality where you're digging into your passions, right? And where

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you're like, man, I want to do, I want to get up and go. Don't be surprised when the people around

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you are like, what the heck are you doing? You know, why, why are you shifting? Why are you

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making this adjustment? That's not easy. It's not easy to escape the pull of the world towards all

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that negativity, but it is rewarding when you find yourself on an inner circle of people who

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who have great strengths and appreciate your strengths and appreciate what you're up to and

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want to see you build. So that's again, I think network marketing from my experience is one of

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those best, best places to be able to get in because I also didn't need a degree to get into

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that. You know, I didn't, there was a lot of things that were required in other positions

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where I couldn't get through the doors, but I was always welcome into those types of circles. And

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most people in the world can't get into the doors elsewhere. So I love what you do, Molly. I love

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what you guys are building. The tennis match analogy is a new one for me. I like that too.

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We're going to put a landing page together so people can get access to these links.

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One of my grand hopes, I'll share a final vision as vision pros live continues to grow. And I

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shouldn't even say it's a grand hope. I know that the receptor, the what's going the byproduct of

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building the vineyard that we are is that there's going to be people listening in someday. And maybe

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it's this episode where they say, oh, I'm that male leader who can contribute to girl power alliance

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shift to, to me. I want to be a part of that. Right? So as you talked about, y'all are building

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it. I wouldn't be surprised if there's visionaries out there listening who are like, oh, I, maybe I

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could help them with that. If you're feeling that sense for Molly or for any of the vision

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pros that you've heard, come on and share what they're doing. Reach out. I'm speaking specifically

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to those of you who aren't so alpha dominant. They like, you're going to bombard your inbox anyway,

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but those of you who doubt yourself, those of you are like, man, I would love to, but I don't know.

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Like the worst thing she can say is no, you know, we don't need you. The best thing,

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it could change your life. So vision pros, thanks for joining us today. Molly, this was an absolute

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pleasure to have you on. Thank you so much for having me. Absolutely. Take care, everybody.

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We'll see you on the next episode. Thank you for being here today. I'm really happy that you tuned

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into vision pros live. I'm looking forward to seeing your reactions as these episodes continue

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to move forward. This is going to get more and more fun. We'll have more and more engagement as

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well. We'll invite people to participate in the show and thank you for giving us your time and

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attention. Have a great day.

