Good. Oh, I got you. Yeah. No, it's great. It's great. And it's awesome. Um,
so I mean, transformation, breaking through self-sabotage and all that.
You mentioned this word transition. Talk to me about that.
And why did you land on this back in the day?
Oh my goodness. Well, back in the day, I didn't really know, right?
Back in the day, I'm 66 years old and I started my,
yeah, yeah.
We ain't going to date. You're not 66.
Thank you. And I,
I launched my first business when I was 61 years old.
So the first thing I'm going to say,
if there's anybody out there that thinks you're too old, too young,
that is not true.
And so it took me 61 years and I'm hoping that it won't
take the rest of you as long and it'll take the perfect amount of time.
So really this whole transition,
I guess, when it really hit me was when I was transitioning out of the military
as an army nurse, which was my identity.
I identified with the army, with my role in the army,
and I left the military under circumstances that weren't what I thought
they were going to be like there wasn't that parade.
I was in a relationship with a guy that was not condoned by the military
and so left in a,
with my head held down.
Oh, held down even worse. So not even unceremonious, but like almost,
is that, what is that? What does that feeling? Ashamed or?
Ashamed, humiliated, like, oh my gosh, I, who could I talk to? Nobody.
Nobody. And feeling like my life was over, what was I going to do?
And for 24 years of stellar performance and service and accolades and achievements that other,
the majority of other people as in the medical field, in the military had never achieved
because of one relationship that wasn't even a big thing. Right.
Right. All of that was wiped out. And so I had to find myself.
I had no idea how to do that because for my entire life, and I write about this
in my chapter in the sacred dance, I was doing what was right.
But I don't want to lose the opportunity to say this, Michelle. Yeah. On behalf,
on behalf of America now and then I know I cannot bridge the gap,
but thank you tremendously for your service. Thank you. It matters. All right.
Welcome in to Vision Pros Live with Jackson Calame. I'm your show host.
We'll be doing interviews for visionary entrepreneurs and guest leaders who are building
fantastic visions out there. What's up and welcome into Vision Pros Live. I am feeling on fire
inspired right now. I've got Michelle Fournier here and I cannot wait to dive into her vision
even further. The emotions are just high right now. We thank her for her military service and
background and all that she's been doing. And I'm so excited to be here with her.
And I'm excited to be here with her and to be able to share with her the story that she's
going through, the experience and background and all that she's been through to get to where she's
at now. She lost her mother when she was 10 years old. Had to find out, you just, you know,
if you haven't been there and been through that or you've been through something similar,
everybody in the world can imagine what a child goes through in that experience. Breaking through
stuck on it because of the conversation that we just had right before transition. And,
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That's exactly what it was. I needed to be productive with my business and moving it forward,
not trying to create a website that ultimately represents your past at any given time. Super
secret business philosophy, but ultimately your website is just a tiny mechanism and everything
else you need to do as a business owner. So getting it done quickly, allowing the imperfection to move
forward, and then going out there and representing your vision and your brand. This would be something
that I wish somebody had told me years ago when I was starting out. And there's a water project.
And the water project is something I always love to talk about because the extreme needs of people
in the world who don't even have access to clean drinking water. I mean, I think we owe it to the
world when we're in these positions to be able to raise some awareness. And hopefully some of you
guys will feel inspired to either donate or help with the raising of awareness process, whichever
you can do. We appreciate the thing I love about the water project is the transparency,
choose who to help. You have the ability to see the communities. You get to see what project
they're working on to see if it makes sense to you. Then you get to see the outcome of what occurs
after you've contributed to it. So whether you can contribute $1 or a thousand dollars or a hundred
thousand dollars, we just hope you feel inspired to do so. If there's a cause that's drawing your
attention more and your emotion like Jackson, that's the wrong cause. We need to talk about this.
Do us a favor, do us all a favor and just drop the link in the comments. It's not a competition.
We've got 8 billion people in this world to help. There's a lot of great things we can do. I just
know I never want to take for granted the fact that I have access to this every single day and
that it does, it breaks my heart, but there's a lot of people out there who don't and we can be
doing more to help in those environments. So thanks for hearing me out on that. To go over to
Michelle's brand and what she's built, I'm impressed with the depth of the brand and the
quality. I'm impressed with her personality as well. And what's behind her is this extensive
background of, again, overcoming self-sabotage. I know that has to do as well with overcoming
imposter syndrome. People have to go through that. So many people are hurting in this world and she's
now dedicated her life to helping people find transformation, live with purpose. It's not easy
to create a book. It's not easy to create a brand. Most of you are aware and know this. So without
further ado, I just got to say I'm honored to have you on stage beside me, Michelle. Thank you for
being here. Thank you for having me. I am just so honored and humbled to be here. Hey, absolutely.
You've out dressed me today, by the way, and I appreciate that you look far, far more beautiful
and radiant than I do. I want to give one little shout out though. This is my coach shirt for when
I was coaching my son Emerson's soccer team and they are amazing. Some of them they were so
fun to coach and be with. So shout out to my son. Love him to death and never done that, but I was
excited to do today. Without further ado, who should be listening today, Michelle? And beyond
the depth that I've already expressed, why should they be listening to you?
That's a great question. So who should be listening today? Is anybody who's feeling stuck,
who's feeling overwhelmed, who's in a rut, who's done all the right things and yet that still
feels like there's something missing. And especially anybody who's telling them, am I allowed to say
bullshit, bullshit. If they're telling themselves crap about who they are, what they're capable of
and they're beating themselves up, this program's for you. One thing you are absolutely allowed to
use your word choices freely. It may limit the potential reach of the audience, but we are not
here to control anybody. And I wish the world didn't get so caught up on the semantics of
emotional expression. Yeah, love it. I'm with you on that. So thank you for sharing that authentically.
I will also say, si hablas español, también Michelle habla español. If you know somebody,
a Spanish speaker who needs help with these same types of realities and things like that,
with these same types of realities and maybe you can't break through to them because you don't
speak that language, understand that depth. She has that too. And that's something that,
again, we can comment and add friends' names in. We can share this episode with people so they get
access to this type of help. So Michelle, what's your vision even further? Let's dive deep into,
what's the vision for those that you serve? You know, if I were to boil it down into one or two
sentences, it's to really help people, first of all, see their value, to see their brilliance,
and to help them live a life that honors them, that's in alignment with them, where they are
free to be themselves. That's been my biggest life lesson. You know, we were talking about this,
that in the chapter I wrote in the book, The Sacred Dance, I did everything that was right.
I did what I was expected to do. I was a good girl. But what was right was really about what
was right for the other people that were influencing me. And it wasn't necessarily what was right for
me. That is so funny. So you're hitting these subjects that are near and dear to my heart in
ways I think most people don't understand. I was a little curly haired, blonde hair, blue eye boy
that my sisters loved to an extreme. And I found myself by the time I was five,
wearing jeans to soccer practice because my thighs were fat.
At five.
And I did not, and I had already cut my hair. This is the first time in my life I've grown my hair out
and kind of tried to fully embrace that. I've been on my own journey. Even though I'm in the limelight
in the public, the inferiority complex within me was extremely strong throughout my youth. I was
a freshman in high school before I wore sandals for the first time. I was worried people would
think my feet were ugly. People go through this. It's real.
And nobody's thinking about your feet.
No, in fact, I sat down and a girl next to me, very pretty blonde goes, you should be a foot model.
How's that for validation?
No, no, no. Is this happening? Like, this is real? I was like, whoa, this is crazy. And
it was so crazy. I was sitting there obsessing about the idea.
Yes.
I think a lot of us, I think a lot of people do that, that are remitting it because it just sounds
so humiliating to say that that's what we think about or struggle about, but you're helping people
break through it. And I love it.
Yeah.
What's your vision for you? I got to know that too.
Oh, that's so interesting. My vision for me, well, I love to be on big stages.
And love to, I, my vision is really to live a life. The next 50 years of my life,
doing what I love to do, playing golf, dancing, and being on big stages and little stages to
help other people believe in themselves.
Love it. What a great balance. That sounds beautiful. And if we can switch gears,
and a darker subject, and you've had military background, you've had corporations that you've
probably worked with, and of course those who you teach on a regular basis, what's your worst
leadership experience ever?
Oh, wow. So when I was in the military, I actually had the same worse experience twice.
And I was a critical care nurse. So while I was in a predominantly male corporation, if you will,
the U S army, I was in a field of nursing that was predominantly led by women and
predominantly populated by women. And so I worked under two leaders who were the chief nurses,
if you will, who were the head of the nursing department. And there in the first experience,
there was racism and discrimination. And I was white. She was African-American. My immediate
boss was also African-American and was discriminated against color wise because she was light skinned.
But also the best way I can say it in both experiences is that the people who were coming
up, who had a bright light, who had ideas, who had leadership, who had a spark, who had
enthusiasm, our lights were dimmed or our lights were dampened or we were put in a corner, if you
will. And as I looked at it years later, it was because they felt threatened. But it was also
because now I, this is just my perspective. I'm obviously not an African-American. My dad was
Puerto Rican and he was raised in the, he was discriminated against, put in the back of the
vehicles with the African-Americans. He had a very thick accent. And in doing the work that I'm doing
now, I can only imagine what that woman, the African-American woman who for her to be like,
she had risen to a rank and a position that was probably a first for African-Americans.
And you and I were talking about this, right? As a child, I was not given the encouragement.
I was not given an example of, hey, what lights you up? Go do that. Right? There were always
these rules. So I can only imagine what this is. There's a concept in the book,
A Course in Miracles that says every behavior, every action is a call for love or an expression
of love, no matter how unskillful it may be. And I think that's the most important thing.
I think that's the most important thing. And so I, what I imagine is they wanted to be seen,
they wanted to be heard just like I did, but they didn't know how to do it in a healthy way,
how they could be heard. I literally had one of the women point to the rank on her shoulders.
She was a colonel. And she said, you want these? You can't have them. Now, who was that about?
That wasn't about me. That was about her. Yeah. And yet this is what we do in this world.
This is the culture, right? We're all competing to be seen and to be heard.
And really there's no competition because if I'm free to be me and if I honor who I am and what I
desire and go after my dreams, there's enough room for all of us. That's right. And so really
the only people that we're competing with is ourselves. That's amazing. I felt so blessed
when I heard Eli Wilde, who used to be the number one sales rep for Tony Robbins, his own program
now, Wild Sales or something like that. Great, great concepts. And he said that he learned from Tony
that people usually have the intent to do good. That is the intent. Almost always is what he said.
I like that your quote says always. It just makes me have to think more profoundly about that
because we have such a hard time giving people the benefit of the doubt as a society.
You know, oh, well, that we think we know why people do things. Go ahead. The benefit of the doubt.
It's our doubt. Well said. That's another. Here's the deal. It and it has to do with trust.
And people, so many of our clients, my business partner and I, Jessica, we work with people who
are like, well, I can't trust you fill in the blank. I can't trust bosses. I can't trust men.
I can't trust women. I can't trust my mom, my dad. It's because we look outside of ourselves for
our answers. And so if we're willing to trust ourselves and listen to source, whatever that
is for you, God, universe, source, spirit, intuition, which is connected to higher self,
if we listen to ourselves, then we don't have to worry about trusting other people.
Yeah. As we listen to ourselves, you know, we come to realize that too, we have such an awesome
opportunity once we become parents to experience this reality on a regular basis. But sometimes
we're not listening close enough to catch it. Right. But the same is true of a child, right?
Who's throwing a massive fit because of whatever external circumstance we might think it is.
But if we, if we slow down and embrace the child and we slow down and we make space for the child,
you know, we try to understand, is it that they're hungry? Is it that they need to go to the
restroom? Is it that they, you know, need water? Is it whatever they can't express? They don't.
The call for love.
Yes. And we do that too. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Well, well said. I'm going to put this highlight up
here for just a little bit for people, the benefit of the doubt. It's our doubt. What is our doubt?
It's our doubt. What a profound realization that if we, we're learning to channel and bridle our
own doubt in that equation, not our doubt about them. We're not calling them the problem.
And then a doubt is typically about us. Yeah. Yeah. We doubt ourselves.
Oh, well said. Let me dive into your best leadership experience. What does that look like?
What's your best leadership experience been? And again, that can be your own personal, that can be
something you experienced from a leader or something you just witnessed.
You know, here's, what I'm going to say is I'm going to give props to my business partner and
bestie, Jessica Jaramillo.
Who I can't wait to have on the show now, which I already wanted. So she's next.
So Jessica, Jessica is someone who is, I want to say mastered, although it's, it's not a skill,
it's a beingness. It's who she is, is the unconditional, the unconditional. And I had
a coach when I first got out of the army, Kathy Malone and Jessica. So the best leadership
experience, two things, one, what makes it the best is that I am accepted, not just accepted.
I am honored and respected for who I am and what I bring to the table.
And all of me, the brilliant parts, like today, when I'm showing up on my game
and the less brilliant parts, like just two hours ago when I was crying and I didn't even know why.
And I think unconsciously it was because, am I going to be good enough for this show?
Like we all have this, though the encouragement, the opportunity of
encouragement, we all need encouragement. You were talking about kids. When you praise a child,
you watch them literally sit up, put back their shoulders, their chest puffs out.
I like to say as an adult, because we stopped doing this as kids, when we're kids, we're like,
look at me, ta-da. And as adults, we stopped doing that. And just this opportunity and this
partnership in our business, this has become the best leadership experience and the navigation of
the bumps. We just got back from Cabo and speaking Spanish on our coach call yesterday with one of
our groups, we were talking about the bumps in life or the topes. Topes in Spanish is a bump.
And they actually have a sign that says zona de topes. Like how good would life be if we had signs
that said, hey, speed bumps ahead. There's a meme of this in the making with just nothing but speed
bumps ahead. That's just the meme world. That's it. And so really as I'm thinking about this,
and my answer would have been different three weeks ago, but as I look back to any leadership
experience I've had that was great, it was because there was encouragement, there was role modeling,
there was communication, and there was a atmosphere and a culture of be who you are.
Be who you are. Well said. There's the principle, try to keep it quick. You just get me reverent.
And so I appreciate that. I like reverence a lot. When it comes to searching for those types of
people in your life, I don't want to disrespect the sacred nature of family because I'm not
going to say that that's the ultimate goal when you can create a family and foster and cultivate
a family where you have that built within and around you. It's hard for people to correlate
that with that though from the opposite perspective when you don't have that. And I think it's also
important though that people recognize if you're in an extremely toxic environment and you're
surrounded and stuck with an environment of people who are putting you down and not appreciating you
for who you are. Sometimes the call and the need is to get out.
Oh, honey, not sometimes. Not sometimes. The call is to leave.
Well, let me let me let me reframe from another perspective. There are those but like, you know,
if my mom, you know, gets mad at me or whatever, I don't leave permanently. Right? There's layers
and levels of toxicity and not calling my mom toxic now either. Sounds bad out of context. But
there's there's layers and there's there's it's like Jessica being there for you. Right. And
you're in your harder times or my team sticking by my side when it's harder. But we have this.
We do have an inner intuition to help us know what to do in those circumstances. If we've learned to
tap into that. Yes. And if we haven't, we have a need to do so. And a lot of people, it's for the
sake of your own survival. So I want to respect both paradigms and help realize that your family
may be the core solution. And for many of you, it may not be. You may need to be even the prodigal
son. You may even be labeled that person right by again, a group that may not be accepting of you.
And I just appreciate that you you hit that on the head and it can be scary for people to do. But
then you got to look for who can you align with? Yes. And thank God for people like you.
Yes. And I'm just taking a couple notes. So sure. To a couple of things. So this is what I
experienced growing up. I had a father that was emotionally, physically, financially, spiritually
unavailable. I was blessed with an amazing bonus mom that was my bonus mom for 40 years.
And my my I have three brothers and where there was a lot of dysfunction
and patterns that were not healthy. And especially when I or any of us were with my dad. And so
as a child until you're 18, you really don't have a whole lot of power and you you don't
have a lot of knowledge that anything that it's different anywhere because this is what you're
used to this whole concept of creating a family. We we have this tendency to think that because we
share DNA that we are required to have this relationship that looks like rainbows and
unicorns and cotton candies and white Oreo cookies. Right. And and the truth is so I love my brothers.
I figured out how to have a relationship with them that that supports my well-being and allows
me to be in a moment with me. But for so many years I was being who I thought I had to be so
they would love me. That's not healthy. No, it's not. And so I then have attracted and created a
family to include Jessica. I have a tribe of women that I share spiritual DNA with if you will.
Yep. Oh, 100%. So when an environment or relationship is toxic, if this is not what you want,
then you've got an obligation to do something different and leaving a rel- sometimes it's
sometimes it's leaving. Right. You have to make a decision and the root word of decide is desider,
which means to cut away from. So it's cutting away from what is not in alignment. Right. So drama is
not in alignment with me. Me trying to fix my brothers. Oh, by the way, nobody needs fixing.
Right. Right. It's not in alignment with me. Right. And you have to set a healthy boundary
a lot of times on that. Exactly. For both parties. Yes. So for Thanksgiving, my husband and I went to
Cabo with Jessica and her husband and we had an amazing time. And so it's like you, each and every
one of us has to figure out what's in alignment for us and what you were saying about. We tend
to stick with people say it's a comfort zone. We call it the familiar zone. This is what's familiar.
This is what we know. And so in order to do something different, you've got to be willing
to step out of what's familiar. And sometimes that's not easy. And like you said, you've got
to listen to intuition, which is source. And to do that, you've got to be still. You've got to step
outside of the chaos and the drama in your life and in your relationships. And it's one step at
a time. And what scares us is, Oh my God, what am I going to do? Or what's this going to be like?
And we're not going to know until we start taking those steps. Absolutely. Well said. It's one of
those things that just, you make me want to start a meditation session, but I also want to reward
everybody who's listening in with just continued abundance. So we're going to go into the power
question. If this was your last chance to share a lesson ever with other visionaries, what can
they learn from your experience? I would take two concepts and put them into one. And the first one
is to the truth will set you free. The truth of who you are and who your higher sources will set
you free. You are more than any circumstance that which is within you, the power that is within you
is greater than any circumstance or situation. You are an overcomer and for the truth to set you free,
you've got to raise the bar, not the bar on what you're doing. You're probably doing too much,
the bar on who you're being and how you think of yourself and what you say to yourself.
Wow. You combine two concepts ultra fast. And I love that. It was very simple and it's simple as
best. So with that, there's a resource I learned that from. If anybody's seeking further to, of
course, Michelle's a resource on that. The one that I learned that concept of not only the truth
will set you free, but being and the power of being and accepting your perfection. You're
accepting your own perfection came from a book called Feelings Buried Alive, Never Dying.
Do you know that book? Yes, I have it on my bookshelf. Oh, that's awesome. The first person I met
who's known that book, what it unlocked for me and understanding both the term Aloha and Namaste
was so revelatory that it very much it had an immediate impact on how I shifted, how I did
myself and how I also met other people and honored them and who they are. I won't let people pick
that one up, but and stay focused on this for now. Michelle, what we've actually got a good amount
of time to kind of dive into what you're doing and what you're doing and what you're doing.
I think it's a good time to kind of dive into what you're up to, what types of programs you're
running and how you can help people. Well, you want to take this from here. It's your call.
Yeah. So there's a few things that we do and that all balances around
letting go of letting go of the self-sabotage. And so I use a process, I use neuro-linguistic programming,
mental and emotional release and hypnotherapy are just a couple of the tools in our toolbox.
And so one of neuro-linguistic programming, here's the deal, is that we, when we're very young,
we are influenced and we are really sponges for everything that's going on around us.
And so what we do is we soak in everything that everybody tells us as the truth, as our truth.
As our truth. And from things that are said to us, events that occur, we make up stuff.
And we make up, what we make up is who we are, how the world works, our place in the world.
And we do this. So neuro-linguistic programming, the neuro, is the neurology or the patterning
in our neurology. Like we imprint this as do those around us into our neurology.
Linguistic is the languaging, the languaging that others use, the languaging that we use
to talk to ourselves. And then the programming, programming came from the 97, from the, sorry,
from the 70s, 1970s when computer programs were just coming out. Today we would call that apps.
And as adults, for anybody who's listening to this, you are the one who's installing apps.
And so what happens is that as good little boys and good little girls, we carry
the lineage, whether it's past lives, whether it's generations, whatever you believe.
And we decide 90% before we're two years old, most of the time, how the world works,
our place in the world and who we are. It's already hardwired, imprinted. So we start
practicing patterns and behaviors to reflect that. So then as adults, we are in that rut,
in those patterns. And so what we do is that we help you identify the root cause, the unconscious
root cause, because this is all unconscious. The root cause of what it is, and the root belief
if you will, that's creating the things that are not working for you in your life right now.
And oh, by the way, while I'm talking about this, please bear in mind that there are,
all of us have patterns of success as well. But what we tend to do is we look at the gaps,
we look at what's missing, we look at, oh, I should have said this. And instead of looking
at what works, looking at what works. And so we help you uncover that at the unconscious level
and disconnect it so that now you've got a clean slate to work from, if you will. And most of us,
I love that you're showing this about the Persario group, right? It's time for you too.
Here's what I'm going to say. It's time for you period. Most of us think it's self-sufficiency,
most of us think it's selfish. We're so caught up in taking care of everybody else and putting
everybody else's needs first. So we are all about helping you set yourself free. I want to be clear,
Jessica and I are simply guides to help you set yourself free from whatever's limiting you.
And there's a couple of ways that we do this. We do this through breakthrough sessions. So we do
a breakthrough session is two, four and a half hour days where we dig and we're looking for the
patterns. The great thing about this is you don't have to relive any trauma. And we define trauma
as mental drama, right? They're all labeled ADHD, depression, anxiety, panic attacks, stress,
they're all labels that we put on ourselves. And so we identify what's going on. We're looking at
patterns, looking at limiting emotions, limiting beliefs, and we identify the mother or the father
of all limiting beliefs. And it's always some flavor of I don't matter. I'm not enough. I'm
not lovable. I have no value. My life has no meaning. I have no meaning. So we stir all that
up. And then on the second day, we just release it. We release it and then nature abhors a vacuum.
And so we'll fill in all the amazingness that's already there and help you create.
Chills, chills. Probably looks like I'm saying no, but my goosebumps are going crazy.
Yes. Yes. And it's a safe space. So many of us, for many years, and that's what I love about Jessica,
I have a safe space that I can talk about anything and everything, that I can say things that I've
been afraid to say out loud. So when we say the things, we release them. And so I'll just say
here that for anybody who is looking, you know, we started out our conversation with transformation
and transition. And for anybody who's looking for four simple steps on how to create success,
transformation that is lasting, right? This is the difference between going to a three-day
workshop maybe, and then, oh my God, that was amazing. And then within two weeks, you're back
in your environment and you've forgotten what was going on there. And Jessica and I are actually
doing a live one-day workshop in Denver on January 19th called Breakthrough Live. And really it's
about breaking through your bullshit. And the live is also live, living in your genius and your
giftedness that only you can give the world and can contribute. So the first step is to release
and repattern, right? To release the patterns that don't work for us, to include what we tell
ourselves, the limiting beliefs that we have. And this, so we do a jumpstart on this with a
breakthrough session, but this is a daily practice. We take a shower every day. We wash our clothes
every week. So we've got to refresh the thoughts and the things that we tell ourselves.
The second step is to create a compelling future. What is an intention? What would you love?
Because most of us are doing what's right. We go to college, we get that job, or we do the vocation,
and we're planning and saving for retirement. But is that all there is? Like we think we have to
wait until retirement. You can actually be fulfilled and have fun now. And what is something
that you would love, not what your parents told you to do, right? I love to travel and play golf.
I love to be on the stage. I love working with people and watching the Ahas and the transformation.
You can do all of that. You don't have to wait. But if you don't have a reason to get up in the
morning, and if you don't get up in the morning saying, I love my life, then you don't have a
compelling future. And we have a 13 week dream builder program that helps you get crystal clear
about a vision for your life and what you would love. Not one day when you're old 20 years from
now, but within three years. So you've got to have an every morning getting up and setting an
intention for the day. And the intention is not, oh, I'm going to do these 10 things on the list.
The intention might be to be happy, to have fun, to make someone else's day a little bit brighter.
Right? We overwhelm ourselves with all these unrealistic or impossible goals.
And we stop acknowledging the simplicity of life and the being. You have to be first,
who you are to do the things you want to have the things you want to have. Most people do with the
opposite. The third step is to take action focused, directed action towards what you want.
So for me, some of that is playing golf. Like my next step is to go get a new set of golf clubs.
Right. To have fun to take care, like, what is the self care stuff that we're doing? Are you
dancing? If that's what you love doing, are you hiking, are you riding your bike? Are you spending
time with your family, but taking directed action, not busy actions. That's right. And I love that you
hit that. You didn't say my next step is to go play golf. You recognize there's an action that
needs to take place in order to be able to get to that. And a lot of times we overgeneralize and
say, well, I don't have golf clubs, so therefore I cannot. But I do have a golf club. And I'm
not. Yeah. Versus you directly hit the solution to the opportunity. And it's starting where you are
with what you have. Because action is required. Right. And so if you don't have golf clubs, to
use this example, and you want to play golf, what step can you take from where you are with what you
have? Go to a golf course. Go walk with your pro. Hit some balls. Rent some clubs. Right. And the
other piece of the action is setting and enforcing healthy boundaries. Yeah. And I actually this
morning we've got in our next newsletter, it's about boundaries. And how to, you know, like one of my
favorite topics. Yeah. Saying no to someone else. You can say yes to yourself. Yep. And then the
last step is that you have to stay focused on what you want. And more importantly, you have to stay
focused on the positives. Now, that's not to say that every moment of every day I'm like, oh, let's,
you know, the rainbows and the white Oreo cookies. However, when we're all going to go through crappy
times, there's going to be the top is the speed bumps. Yeah. There's a good, a seed of good in
everything. And so when we're going through those challenging times, it's to pick ourselves back up,
allow ourselves, we're talking about emotions, feel the emotions, don't stuff them down because
that's where disease comes from. Feel the emotions, express it, cry, scream, whatever you need to do,
and give yourself a time limit and then pick yourself back up and focus on the positive.
Cause we are energy and our thoughts become things. What you think about, you bring about.
So focus on the positive. It is so simple. And yet we don't do it because we discount the simplicity.
Here's the, here's the neat thing. We are running to the edge of the hour and I want to go for
another hour because you're just so giving. And you're, you know, you're able to openly reveal,
not calling out the psychologists and the therapists and the counselors that are still
stuck in the beginning stages of building their careers and in that fear mode of, I don't want
to share this because I'm giving away my value. But we work with therapists. Right. And there's
an abundance that they need a lot of work. Usually the most therapists get into therapy
because they need therapy. And that's okay. But this abundance that you share, if anybody
was listening just now and you, you heard the list of steps, if you're not in a position to get there
in January, you know, those of you who are, of course, you're going to be drawn to that.
You're going to see the links. We'll have those in the landing page as well for Michelle.
You know, if you feel called to belong to that, then do that. And if you aren't able to,
then take the actions that you can. And that's writing down that list. You have the self
awareness within you because you are, though, if you're listening, you are the visionary.
That is you. You have your vision and you know what that opportunity needs to, you know,
needs to look like for you. You get the opportunity to become that is up to you. So
I would, I would go back into this if you didn't already and go back to the section where she
started talking about the steps and follow Michelle's, uh, basically it's a, it's a journaling
exercise that you can do for yourself. And it's amazing. The type of empowerment you can find
from doing those exercises, you're exercising new muscles in the process. And as you do that over
time, you get stronger and stronger. My favorite analogy about the great aspects of life is that
the great aspects of life for a lot, like a, are a lot like a fireworks show. There's a lot of people
who want the entire life, the entire day to be a fireworks show. And that can leave us very
disappointed when realizing that there's a lot of work to put that fireworks show together so that
it can be celebrated and enjoyed. And so there's this balance that exists. There's also the opposite
spectrum of people who are like me. I have a very addicted personality, addictive personality. I,
I love to overindulge. And if you have that, there's also an opportunity to not just say,
yes, more to what I can have, but also being able to tell yourself, no, and put a boundary on,
you know what, I'm not going to binge watch that entire Netflix thing, or I'm not going to spend
my entire day, everyday golfing because I have other things they need to do as well.
Spectrums on both sides, Michelle, I see you powerfully bringing that awareness to people.
I want to honor you for it. I love you for it. Is there any final, uh, where, where can people
best connect with you between now and that time? Yeah. So a couple of things, first of all, the
four steps I just went through, if you go to the Michelle Fournier, michelle-fournier.com,
you can sign up for that and you'll actually get a drip emails, um, sequence that explains it in
more detail and gives you exercises to do to integrate. The integration is really important.
If you're not able to join us live, you can absolutely again, go to either one of my websites,
sign up for a clarity session and our coaching programs are via zoom. So we have international
clients, people dialing in from everywhere. So many opportunities. Vision pros, you heard it from
Michelle. I look forward to seeing people connect with you, Michelle. And those of you who want to
share your visions, we do have a link on there as well. So you can apply to share your vision with
us. We'd love to hear it. If it's wholesome, uh, it doesn't matter if you're just starting out or
for somebody who's super well established, we're here to hear visions out. They're wholesome and
helping this world. We look forward to seeing you apply and everybody. Thank you for tuning in. We
hope you have an amazing weekend. What would you love? What do you answer that question and you'll
get everything you need. What would you love? What would I love? Thank you. Thank you for being here
today. I'm really happy that you tuned into vision pros live. I'm looking forward to seeing your
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