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Good. Oh, I got you. Yeah. No, it's great. It's great. And it's awesome. Um,

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so I mean, transformation, breaking through self-sabotage and all that.

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And why did you land on this back in the day?

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Back in the day, I'm 66 years old and I started my,

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We ain't going to date. You're not 66.

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I launched my first business when I was 61 years old.

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So the first thing I'm going to say,

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if there's anybody out there that thinks you're too old, too young,

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that is not true.

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And so it took me 61 years and I'm hoping that it won't

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take the rest of you as long and it'll take the perfect amount of time.

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as an army nurse, which was my identity.

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I identified with the army, with my role in the army,

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and I left the military under circumstances that weren't what I thought

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they were going to be like there wasn't that parade.

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I was in a relationship with a guy that was not condoned by the military

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with my head held down.

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is that, what is that? What does that feeling? Ashamed or?

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Ashamed, humiliated, like, oh my gosh, I, who could I talk to? Nobody.

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Nobody. And feeling like my life was over, what was I going to do?

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And for 24 years of stellar performance and service and accolades and achievements that other,

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the majority of other people as in the medical field, in the military had never achieved

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because of one relationship that wasn't even a big thing. Right.

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I had no idea how to do that because for my entire life, and I write about this

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in my chapter in the sacred dance, I was doing what was right.

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But I don't want to lose the opportunity to say this, Michelle. Yeah. On behalf,

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on behalf of America now and then I know I cannot bridge the gap,

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but thank you tremendously for your service. Thank you. It matters. All right.

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Welcome in to Vision Pros Live with Jackson Calame. I'm your show host.

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We'll be doing interviews for visionary entrepreneurs and guest leaders who are building

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fantastic visions out there. What's up and welcome into Vision Pros Live. I am feeling on fire

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inspired right now. I've got Michelle Fournier here and I cannot wait to dive into her vision

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even further. The emotions are just high right now. We thank her for her military service and

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background and all that she's been doing. And I'm so excited to be here with her.

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And I'm excited to be here with her and to be able to share with her the story that she's

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going through, the experience and background and all that she's been through to get to where she's

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at now. She lost her mother when she was 10 years old. Had to find out, you just, you know,

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if you haven't been there and been through that or you've been through something similar,

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everybody in the world can imagine what a child goes through in that experience. Breaking through

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stuck on it because of the conversation that we just had right before transition. And,

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secret business philosophy, but ultimately your website is just a tiny mechanism and everything

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else you need to do as a business owner. So getting it done quickly, allowing the imperfection to move

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forward, and then going out there and representing your vision and your brand. This would be something

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that I wish somebody had told me years ago when I was starting out. And there's a water project.

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world when we're in these positions to be able to raise some awareness. And hopefully some of you

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guys will feel inspired to either donate or help with the raising of awareness process, whichever

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you can do. We appreciate the thing I love about the water project is the transparency,

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choose who to help. You have the ability to see the communities. You get to see what project

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they're working on to see if it makes sense to you. Then you get to see the outcome of what occurs

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attention more and your emotion like Jackson, that's the wrong cause. We need to talk about this.

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Do us a favor, do us all a favor and just drop the link in the comments. It's not a competition.

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We've got 8 billion people in this world to help. There's a lot of great things we can do. I just

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know I never want to take for granted the fact that I have access to this every single day and

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that it does, it breaks my heart, but there's a lot of people out there who don't and we can be

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doing more to help in those environments. So thanks for hearing me out on that. To go over to

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Michelle's brand and what she's built, I'm impressed with the depth of the brand and the

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quality. I'm impressed with her personality as well. And what's behind her is this extensive

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background of, again, overcoming self-sabotage. I know that has to do as well with overcoming

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imposter syndrome. People have to go through that. So many people are hurting in this world and she's

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now dedicated her life to helping people find transformation, live with purpose. It's not easy

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to create a book. It's not easy to create a brand. Most of you are aware and know this. So without

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further ado, I just got to say I'm honored to have you on stage beside me, Michelle. Thank you for

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being here. Thank you for having me. I am just so honored and humbled to be here. Hey, absolutely.

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You've out dressed me today, by the way, and I appreciate that you look far, far more beautiful

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and radiant than I do. I want to give one little shout out though. This is my coach shirt for when

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fun to coach and be with. So shout out to my son. Love him to death and never done that, but I was

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excited to do today. Without further ado, who should be listening today, Michelle? And beyond

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the depth that I've already expressed, why should they be listening to you?

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That's a great question. So who should be listening today? Is anybody who's feeling stuck,

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who's feeling overwhelmed, who's in a rut, who's done all the right things and yet that still

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feels like there's something missing. And especially anybody who's telling them, am I allowed to say

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bullshit, bullshit. If they're telling themselves crap about who they are, what they're capable of

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and they're beating themselves up, this program's for you. One thing you are absolutely allowed to

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use your word choices freely. It may limit the potential reach of the audience, but we are not

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here to control anybody. And I wish the world didn't get so caught up on the semantics of

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emotional expression. Yeah, love it. I'm with you on that. So thank you for sharing that authentically.

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I will also say, si hablas español, también Michelle habla español. If you know somebody,

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with these same types of realities and maybe you can't break through to them because you don't

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speak that language, understand that depth. She has that too. And that's something that,

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again, we can comment and add friends' names in. We can share this episode with people so they get

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access to this type of help. So Michelle, what's your vision even further? Let's dive deep into,

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what's the vision for those that you serve? You know, if I were to boil it down into one or two

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sentences, it's to really help people, first of all, see their value, to see their brilliance,

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and to help them live a life that honors them, that's in alignment with them, where they are

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free to be themselves. That's been my biggest life lesson. You know, we were talking about this,

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that in the chapter I wrote in the book, The Sacred Dance, I did everything that was right.

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I did what I was expected to do. I was a good girl. But what was right was really about what

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was right for the other people that were influencing me. And it wasn't necessarily what was right for

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me. That is so funny. So you're hitting these subjects that are near and dear to my heart in

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ways I think most people don't understand. I was a little curly haired, blonde hair, blue eye boy

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that my sisters loved to an extreme. And I found myself by the time I was five,

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wearing jeans to soccer practice because my thighs were fat.

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and kind of tried to fully embrace that. I've been on my own journey. Even though I'm in the limelight

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in the public, the inferiority complex within me was extremely strong throughout my youth. I was

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a freshman in high school before I wore sandals for the first time. I was worried people would

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think my feet were ugly. People go through this. It's real.

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No, in fact, I sat down and a girl next to me, very pretty blonde goes, you should be a foot model.

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How's that for validation?

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No, no, no. Is this happening? Like, this is real? I was like, whoa, this is crazy. And

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it was so crazy. I was sitting there obsessing about the idea.

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I think a lot of us, I think a lot of people do that, that are remitting it because it just sounds

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so humiliating to say that that's what we think about or struggle about, but you're helping people

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break through it. And I love it.

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What's your vision for you? I got to know that too.

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Oh, that's so interesting. My vision for me, well, I love to be on big stages.

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And love to, I, my vision is really to live a life. The next 50 years of my life,

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doing what I love to do, playing golf, dancing, and being on big stages and little stages to

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help other people believe in themselves.

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Love it. What a great balance. That sounds beautiful. And if we can switch gears,

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and a darker subject, and you've had military background, you've had corporations that you've

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probably worked with, and of course those who you teach on a regular basis, what's your worst

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leadership experience ever?

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the U S army, I was in a field of nursing that was predominantly led by women and

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predominantly populated by women. And so I worked under two leaders who were the chief nurses,

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if you will, who were the head of the nursing department. And there in the first experience,

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there was racism and discrimination. And I was white. She was African-American. My immediate

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boss was also African-American and was discriminated against color wise because she was light skinned.

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enthusiasm, our lights were dimmed or our lights were dampened or we were put in a corner, if you

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will. And as I looked at it years later, it was because they felt threatened. But it was also

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Puerto Rican and he was raised in the, he was discriminated against, put in the back of the

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vehicles with the African-Americans. He had a very thick accent. And in doing the work that I'm doing

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now, I can only imagine what that woman, the African-American woman who for her to be like,

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she had risen to a rank and a position that was probably a first for African-Americans.

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I was not given an example of, hey, what lights you up? Go do that. Right? There were always

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these rules. So I can only imagine what this is. There's a concept in the book,

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A Course in Miracles that says every behavior, every action is a call for love or an expression

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of love, no matter how unskillful it may be. And I think that's the most important thing.

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I think that's the most important thing. And so I, what I imagine is they wanted to be seen,

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they wanted to be heard just like I did, but they didn't know how to do it in a healthy way,

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how they could be heard. I literally had one of the women point to the rank on her shoulders.

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She was a colonel. And she said, you want these? You can't have them. Now, who was that about?

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That wasn't about me. That was about her. Yeah. And yet this is what we do in this world.

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This is the culture, right? We're all competing to be seen and to be heard.

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And really there's no competition because if I'm free to be me and if I honor who I am and what I

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desire and go after my dreams, there's enough room for all of us. That's right. And so really

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the only people that we're competing with is ourselves. That's amazing. I felt so blessed

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when I heard Eli Wilde, who used to be the number one sales rep for Tony Robbins, his own program

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now, Wild Sales or something like that. Great, great concepts. And he said that he learned from Tony

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that people usually have the intent to do good. That is the intent. Almost always is what he said.

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I like that your quote says always. It just makes me have to think more profoundly about that

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because we have such a hard time giving people the benefit of the doubt as a society.

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You know, oh, well, that we think we know why people do things. Go ahead. The benefit of the doubt.

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It's our doubt. Well said. That's another. Here's the deal. It and it has to do with trust.

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And people, so many of our clients, my business partner and I, Jessica, we work with people who

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are like, well, I can't trust you fill in the blank. I can't trust bosses. I can't trust men.

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I can't trust women. I can't trust my mom, my dad. It's because we look outside of ourselves for

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our answers. And so if we're willing to trust ourselves and listen to source, whatever that

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is for you, God, universe, source, spirit, intuition, which is connected to higher self,

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if we listen to ourselves, then we don't have to worry about trusting other people.

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opportunity once we become parents to experience this reality on a regular basis. But sometimes

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we're not listening close enough to catch it. Right. But the same is true of a child, right?

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Who's throwing a massive fit because of whatever external circumstance we might think it is.

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you know, we try to understand, is it that they're hungry? Is it that they need to go to the

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restroom? Is it that they, you know, need water? Is it whatever they can't express? They don't.

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The call for love.

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Yes. And we do that too. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Well, well said. I'm going to put this highlight up

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here for just a little bit for people, the benefit of the doubt. It's our doubt. What is our doubt?

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It's our doubt. What a profound realization that if we, we're learning to channel and bridle our

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own doubt in that equation, not our doubt about them. We're not calling them the problem.

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And then a doubt is typically about us. Yeah. Yeah. We doubt ourselves.

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Oh, well said. Let me dive into your best leadership experience. What does that look like?

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What's your best leadership experience been? And again, that can be your own personal, that can be

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something you experienced from a leader or something you just witnessed.

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You know, here's, what I'm going to say is I'm going to give props to my business partner and

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bestie, Jessica Jaramillo.

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Who I can't wait to have on the show now, which I already wanted. So she's next.

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So Jessica, Jessica is someone who is, I want to say mastered, although it's, it's not a skill,

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it's a beingness. It's who she is, is the unconditional, the unconditional. And I had

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a coach when I first got out of the army, Kathy Malone and Jessica. So the best leadership

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experience, two things, one, what makes it the best is that I am accepted, not just accepted.

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I am honored and respected for who I am and what I bring to the table.

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And all of me, the brilliant parts, like today, when I'm showing up on my game

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and the less brilliant parts, like just two hours ago when I was crying and I didn't even know why.

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And I think unconsciously it was because, am I going to be good enough for this show?

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Like we all have this, though the encouragement, the opportunity of

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encouragement, we all need encouragement. You were talking about kids. When you praise a child,

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you watch them literally sit up, put back their shoulders, their chest puffs out.

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I like to say as an adult, because we stopped doing this as kids, when we're kids, we're like,

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look at me, ta-da. And as adults, we stopped doing that. And just this opportunity and this

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partnership in our business, this has become the best leadership experience and the navigation of

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the bumps. We just got back from Cabo and speaking Spanish on our coach call yesterday with one of

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our groups, we were talking about the bumps in life or the topes. Topes in Spanish is a bump.

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And they actually have a sign that says zona de topes. Like how good would life be if we had signs

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that said, hey, speed bumps ahead. There's a meme of this in the making with just nothing but speed

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bumps ahead. That's just the meme world. That's it. And so really as I'm thinking about this,

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and my answer would have been different three weeks ago, but as I look back to any leadership

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experience I've had that was great, it was because there was encouragement, there was role modeling,

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there was communication, and there was a atmosphere and a culture of be who you are.

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Be who you are. Well said. There's the principle, try to keep it quick. You just get me reverent.

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And so I appreciate that. I like reverence a lot. When it comes to searching for those types of

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people in your life, I don't want to disrespect the sacred nature of family because I'm not

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going to say that that's the ultimate goal when you can create a family and foster and cultivate

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a family where you have that built within and around you. It's hard for people to correlate

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that with that though from the opposite perspective when you don't have that. And I think it's also

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important though that people recognize if you're in an extremely toxic environment and you're

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surrounded and stuck with an environment of people who are putting you down and not appreciating you

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for who you are. Sometimes the call and the need is to get out.

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Oh, honey, not sometimes. Not sometimes. The call is to leave.

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Well, let me let me let me reframe from another perspective. There are those but like, you know,

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if my mom, you know, gets mad at me or whatever, I don't leave permanently. Right? There's layers

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and levels of toxicity and not calling my mom toxic now either. Sounds bad out of context. But

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there's there's layers and there's there's it's like Jessica being there for you. Right. And

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you're in your harder times or my team sticking by my side when it's harder. But we have this.

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We do have an inner intuition to help us know what to do in those circumstances. If we've learned to

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tap into that. Yes. And if we haven't, we have a need to do so. And a lot of people, it's for the

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sake of your own survival. So I want to respect both paradigms and help realize that your family

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may be the core solution. And for many of you, it may not be. You may need to be even the prodigal

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son. You may even be labeled that person right by again, a group that may not be accepting of you.

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And I just appreciate that you you hit that on the head and it can be scary for people to do. But

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then you got to look for who can you align with? Yes. And thank God for people like you.

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Yes. And I'm just taking a couple notes. So sure. To a couple of things. So this is what I

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experienced growing up. I had a father that was emotionally, physically, financially, spiritually

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unavailable. I was blessed with an amazing bonus mom that was my bonus mom for 40 years.

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And my my I have three brothers and where there was a lot of dysfunction

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and patterns that were not healthy. And especially when I or any of us were with my dad. And so

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as a child until you're 18, you really don't have a whole lot of power and you you don't

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have a lot of knowledge that anything that it's different anywhere because this is what you're

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used to this whole concept of creating a family. We we have this tendency to think that because we

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share DNA that we are required to have this relationship that looks like rainbows and

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unicorns and cotton candies and white Oreo cookies. Right. And and the truth is so I love my brothers.

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I figured out how to have a relationship with them that that supports my well-being and allows

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me to be in a moment with me. But for so many years I was being who I thought I had to be so

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they would love me. That's not healthy. No, it's not. And so I then have attracted and created a

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family to include Jessica. I have a tribe of women that I share spiritual DNA with if you will.

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Yep. Oh, 100%. So when an environment or relationship is toxic, if this is not what you want,

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then you've got an obligation to do something different and leaving a rel- sometimes it's

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sometimes it's leaving. Right. You have to make a decision and the root word of decide is desider,

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which means to cut away from. So it's cutting away from what is not in alignment. Right. So drama is

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not in alignment with me. Me trying to fix my brothers. Oh, by the way, nobody needs fixing.

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Right. Right. It's not in alignment with me. Right. And you have to set a healthy boundary

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a lot of times on that. Exactly. For both parties. Yes. So for Thanksgiving, my husband and I went to

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Cabo with Jessica and her husband and we had an amazing time. And so it's like you, each and every

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one of us has to figure out what's in alignment for us and what you were saying about. We tend

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to stick with people say it's a comfort zone. We call it the familiar zone. This is what's familiar.

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This is what we know. And so in order to do something different, you've got to be willing

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to step out of what's familiar. And sometimes that's not easy. And like you said, you've got

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to listen to intuition, which is source. And to do that, you've got to be still. You've got to step

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outside of the chaos and the drama in your life and in your relationships. And it's one step at

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a time. And what scares us is, Oh my God, what am I going to do? Or what's this going to be like?

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And we're not going to know until we start taking those steps. Absolutely. Well said. It's one of

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those things that just, you make me want to start a meditation session, but I also want to reward

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everybody who's listening in with just continued abundance. So we're going to go into the power

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question. If this was your last chance to share a lesson ever with other visionaries, what can

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they learn from your experience? I would take two concepts and put them into one. And the first one

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is to the truth will set you free. The truth of who you are and who your higher sources will set

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you free. You are more than any circumstance that which is within you, the power that is within you

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is greater than any circumstance or situation. You are an overcomer and for the truth to set you free,

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you've got to raise the bar, not the bar on what you're doing. You're probably doing too much,

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the bar on who you're being and how you think of yourself and what you say to yourself.

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Wow. You combine two concepts ultra fast. And I love that. It was very simple and it's simple as

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best. So with that, there's a resource I learned that from. If anybody's seeking further to, of

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course, Michelle's a resource on that. The one that I learned that concept of not only the truth

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will set you free, but being and the power of being and accepting your perfection. You're

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accepting your own perfection came from a book called Feelings Buried Alive, Never Dying.

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Do you know that book? Yes, I have it on my bookshelf. Oh, that's awesome. The first person I met

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who's known that book, what it unlocked for me and understanding both the term Aloha and Namaste

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was so revelatory that it very much it had an immediate impact on how I shifted, how I did

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myself and how I also met other people and honored them and who they are. I won't let people pick

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that one up, but and stay focused on this for now. Michelle, what we've actually got a good amount

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of time to kind of dive into what you're doing and what you're doing and what you're doing.

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I think it's a good time to kind of dive into what you're up to, what types of programs you're

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running and how you can help people. Well, you want to take this from here. It's your call.

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Yeah. So there's a few things that we do and that all balances around

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letting go of letting go of the self-sabotage. And so I use a process, I use neuro-linguistic programming,

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mental and emotional release and hypnotherapy are just a couple of the tools in our toolbox.

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And so one of neuro-linguistic programming, here's the deal, is that we, when we're very young,

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we are influenced and we are really sponges for everything that's going on around us.

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As our truth. And from things that are said to us, events that occur, we make up stuff.

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And we make up, what we make up is who we are, how the world works, our place in the world.

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And we do this. So neuro-linguistic programming, the neuro, is the neurology or the patterning

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in our neurology. Like we imprint this as do those around us into our neurology.

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Linguistic is the languaging, the languaging that others use, the languaging that we use

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to talk to ourselves. And then the programming, programming came from the 97, from the, sorry,

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from the 70s, 1970s when computer programs were just coming out. Today we would call that apps.

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And as adults, for anybody who's listening to this, you are the one who's installing apps.

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the lineage, whether it's past lives, whether it's generations, whatever you believe.

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our place in the world and who we are. It's already hardwired, imprinted. So we start

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practicing patterns and behaviors to reflect that. So then as adults, we are in that rut,

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in those patterns. And so what we do is that we help you identify the root cause, the unconscious

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root cause, because this is all unconscious. The root cause of what it is, and the root belief

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if you will, that's creating the things that are not working for you in your life right now.

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And oh, by the way, while I'm talking about this, please bear in mind that there are,

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all of us have patterns of success as well. But what we tend to do is we look at the gaps,

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we look at what's missing, we look at, oh, I should have said this. And instead of looking

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at what works, looking at what works. And so we help you uncover that at the unconscious level

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and disconnect it so that now you've got a clean slate to work from, if you will. And most of us,

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I love that you're showing this about the Persario group, right? It's time for you too.

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Here's what I'm going to say. It's time for you period. Most of us think it's self-sufficiency,

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most of us think it's selfish. We're so caught up in taking care of everybody else and putting

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everybody else's needs first. So we are all about helping you set yourself free. I want to be clear,

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Jessica and I are simply guides to help you set yourself free from whatever's limiting you.

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And there's a couple of ways that we do this. We do this through breakthrough sessions. So we do

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a breakthrough session is two, four and a half hour days where we dig and we're looking for the

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patterns. The great thing about this is you don't have to relive any trauma. And we define trauma

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as mental drama, right? They're all labeled ADHD, depression, anxiety, panic attacks, stress,

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they're all labels that we put on ourselves. And so we identify what's going on. We're looking at

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patterns, looking at limiting emotions, limiting beliefs, and we identify the mother or the father

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of all limiting beliefs. And it's always some flavor of I don't matter. I'm not enough. I'm

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not lovable. I have no value. My life has no meaning. I have no meaning. So we stir all that

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up. And then on the second day, we just release it. We release it and then nature abhors a vacuum.

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And so we'll fill in all the amazingness that's already there and help you create.

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Chills, chills. Probably looks like I'm saying no, but my goosebumps are going crazy.

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Yes. Yes. And it's a safe space. So many of us, for many years, and that's what I love about Jessica,

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I have a safe space that I can talk about anything and everything, that I can say things that I've

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been afraid to say out loud. So when we say the things, we release them. And so I'll just say

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here that for anybody who is looking, you know, we started out our conversation with transformation

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and transition. And for anybody who's looking for four simple steps on how to create success,

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transformation that is lasting, right? This is the difference between going to a three-day

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workshop maybe, and then, oh my God, that was amazing. And then within two weeks, you're back

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in your environment and you've forgotten what was going on there. And Jessica and I are actually

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doing a live one-day workshop in Denver on January 19th called Breakthrough Live. And really it's

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about breaking through your bullshit. And the live is also live, living in your genius and your

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giftedness that only you can give the world and can contribute. So the first step is to release

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and repattern, right? To release the patterns that don't work for us, to include what we tell

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ourselves, the limiting beliefs that we have. And this, so we do a jumpstart on this with a

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breakthrough session, but this is a daily practice. We take a shower every day. We wash our clothes

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every week. So we've got to refresh the thoughts and the things that we tell ourselves.

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The second step is to create a compelling future. What is an intention? What would you love?

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Because most of us are doing what's right. We go to college, we get that job, or we do the vocation,

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and we're planning and saving for retirement. But is that all there is? Like we think we have to

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wait until retirement. You can actually be fulfilled and have fun now. And what is something

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that you would love, not what your parents told you to do, right? I love to travel and play golf.

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I love to be on the stage. I love working with people and watching the Ahas and the transformation.

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You can do all of that. You don't have to wait. But if you don't have a reason to get up in the

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morning, and if you don't get up in the morning saying, I love my life, then you don't have a

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compelling future. And we have a 13 week dream builder program that helps you get crystal clear

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about a vision for your life and what you would love. Not one day when you're old 20 years from

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now, but within three years. So you've got to have an every morning getting up and setting an

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intention for the day. And the intention is not, oh, I'm going to do these 10 things on the list.

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The intention might be to be happy, to have fun, to make someone else's day a little bit brighter.

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Right? We overwhelm ourselves with all these unrealistic or impossible goals.

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who you are to do the things you want to have the things you want to have. Most people do with the

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opposite. The third step is to take action focused, directed action towards what you want.

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So for me, some of that is playing golf. Like my next step is to go get a new set of golf clubs.

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Right. To have fun to take care, like, what is the self care stuff that we're doing? Are you

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dancing? If that's what you love doing, are you hiking, are you riding your bike? Are you spending

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time with your family, but taking directed action, not busy actions. That's right. And I love that you

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hit that. You didn't say my next step is to go play golf. You recognize there's an action that

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needs to take place in order to be able to get to that. And a lot of times we overgeneralize and

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say, well, I don't have golf clubs, so therefore I cannot. But I do have a golf club. And I'm

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not. Yeah. Versus you directly hit the solution to the opportunity. And it's starting where you are

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with what you have. Because action is required. Right. And so if you don't have golf clubs, to

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use this example, and you want to play golf, what step can you take from where you are with what you

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have? Go to a golf course. Go walk with your pro. Hit some balls. Rent some clubs. Right. And the

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other piece of the action is setting and enforcing healthy boundaries. Yeah. And I actually this

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morning we've got in our next newsletter, it's about boundaries. And how to, you know, like one of my

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favorite topics. Yeah. Saying no to someone else. You can say yes to yourself. Yep. And then the

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last step is that you have to stay focused on what you want. And more importantly, you have to stay

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focused on the positives. Now, that's not to say that every moment of every day I'm like, oh, let's,

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you know, the rainbows and the white Oreo cookies. However, when we're all going to go through crappy

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times, there's going to be the top is the speed bumps. Yeah. There's a good, a seed of good in

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everything. And so when we're going through those challenging times, it's to pick ourselves back up,

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allow ourselves, we're talking about emotions, feel the emotions, don't stuff them down because

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that's where disease comes from. Feel the emotions, express it, cry, scream, whatever you need to do,

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and give yourself a time limit and then pick yourself back up and focus on the positive.

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Cause we are energy and our thoughts become things. What you think about, you bring about.

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So focus on the positive. It is so simple. And yet we don't do it because we discount the simplicity.

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Here's the, here's the neat thing. We are running to the edge of the hour and I want to go for

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another hour because you're just so giving. And you're, you know, you're able to openly reveal,

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not calling out the psychologists and the therapists and the counselors that are still

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stuck in the beginning stages of building their careers and in that fear mode of, I don't want

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to share this because I'm giving away my value. But we work with therapists. Right. And there's

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an abundance that they need a lot of work. Usually the most therapists get into therapy

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because they need therapy. And that's okay. But this abundance that you share, if anybody

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was listening just now and you, you heard the list of steps, if you're not in a position to get there

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in January, you know, those of you who are, of course, you're going to be drawn to that.

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You're going to see the links. We'll have those in the landing page as well for Michelle.

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You know, if you feel called to belong to that, then do that. And if you aren't able to,

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then take the actions that you can. And that's writing down that list. You have the self

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awareness within you because you are, though, if you're listening, you are the visionary.

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That is you. You have your vision and you know what that opportunity needs to, you know,

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needs to look like for you. You get the opportunity to become that is up to you. So

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I would, I would go back into this if you didn't already and go back to the section where she

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started talking about the steps and follow Michelle's, uh, basically it's a, it's a journaling

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exercise that you can do for yourself. And it's amazing. The type of empowerment you can find

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from doing those exercises, you're exercising new muscles in the process. And as you do that over

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time, you get stronger and stronger. My favorite analogy about the great aspects of life is that

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the great aspects of life for a lot, like a, are a lot like a fireworks show. There's a lot of people

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who want the entire life, the entire day to be a fireworks show. And that can leave us very

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disappointed when realizing that there's a lot of work to put that fireworks show together so that

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it can be celebrated and enjoyed. And so there's this balance that exists. There's also the opposite

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spectrum of people who are like me. I have a very addicted personality, addictive personality. I,

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I love to overindulge. And if you have that, there's also an opportunity to not just say,

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yes, more to what I can have, but also being able to tell yourself, no, and put a boundary on,

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you know what, I'm not going to binge watch that entire Netflix thing, or I'm not going to spend

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my entire day, everyday golfing because I have other things they need to do as well.

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Spectrums on both sides, Michelle, I see you powerfully bringing that awareness to people.

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I want to honor you for it. I love you for it. Is there any final, uh, where, where can people

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best connect with you between now and that time? Yeah. So a couple of things, first of all, the

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four steps I just went through, if you go to the Michelle Fournier, michelle-fournier.com,

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you can sign up for that and you'll actually get a drip emails, um, sequence that explains it in

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more detail and gives you exercises to do to integrate. The integration is really important.

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If you're not able to join us live, you can absolutely again, go to either one of my websites,

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sign up for a clarity session and our coaching programs are via zoom. So we have international

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clients, people dialing in from everywhere. So many opportunities. Vision pros, you heard it from

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Michelle. I look forward to seeing people connect with you, Michelle. And those of you who want to

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share your visions, we do have a link on there as well. So you can apply to share your vision with

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us. We'd love to hear it. If it's wholesome, uh, it doesn't matter if you're just starting out or

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for somebody who's super well established, we're here to hear visions out. They're wholesome and

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helping this world. We look forward to seeing you apply and everybody. Thank you for tuning in. We

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hope you have an amazing weekend. What would you love? What do you answer that question and you'll

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get everything you need. What would you love? What would I love? Thank you. Thank you for being here

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today. I'm really happy that you tuned into vision pros live. I'm looking forward to seeing your

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reactions as these episodes continue to move forward. This is going to get more and more fun.

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We'll have more and more engagement as well. We'll invite people to participate in the show and

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thank you for giving us your time and attention. Have an awesome weekend.