I want to show you that video sizzle real quick too.
So for some reason on my display
when it's showing your testimonials,
do you see what it's doing?
Oh yeah, that's all right.
It's format, so no, it's fine.
It's awesome, we'll be using it.
Because people will get the idea,
but I just wanted to make sure to get that back to you
because the results that you're driving people
are phenomenal and I love how well
you put that video together.
It was like, holy crap,
he's been doing his videos all what, 12 years of your life?
Just kidding, Cali.
Oh wow, yes actually.
I have a whole folder dude of probably blackmail
that my mom could use against me
of like these videos I used to make
when I was like little, little, and it's awful, man.
So creating.
That's great, man, that's good stuff.
One of my favorite music videos is Ed Sheeran's photograph.
You seen that?
Oh yeah, geez, that's an old one.
That's like one of his first songs, right?
Or maybe one of his first like more popular songs.
I think it's one of the more popular,
but it shows him growing up playing his music on the streets
and like the process of like the family love he had too.
It's cool.
Yeah, his was less cringed than mine.
Mine was super cringy.
It was just one of those ones you just like,
you like kind of want to look away while you're watching it.
So with what everybody is watching right now,
Calvin has blessed my life tremendously as a fitness coach.
He's not even my fitness coach,
but he's just such a great listener
and again, I am constantly talking to fitness people
and people in the coaching space, et cetera.
I am floored at what a servant's heart he has,
how well studied he is in regards to pain management
and breaking free.
And I mean, I just, I can't wait to see
your business explode.
One thing I want to do to help that though,
let's get your name over here, adjusted to your last name.
So that's on there too, as well as your brand name.
Is that okay with you?
Sure, let's do it.
Okay, awesome.
There's a little button down there.
We can handle.
You got it, perfect.
We'll get that on there.
And what's the, why did you start doing,
once you're done with that,
why did you start doing what you do for people health-wise?
Man, I wish it was a better story, dude.
You have a great story.
Don't put that down.
I love your story.
I wanted to get out of what I was doing
because I did not like the boss.
Oh, that's fair too.
That's a different story.
Yeah, I could like, you know,
put myself on this pedestal of like this person
who is motivated because I used to be fat
and you know, I really wanted to help people
and I just have this servant's heart.
I'm such a good heart, but really in reality,
I just don't like being told what to do.
And I don't like stupid people.
So I was like-
I've seen both those in action actually.
I think that's why we sometimes have a, I'm just kidding.
So I like that.
Okay, so that's why you do the work that you do,
but that is so polar opposite
of everything that I know about you.
So that's so weird.
How does it coincide with your servant's heart?
It's funny to talk about that stuff
because I think at the end of all of it, you know,
we do like to pretend that we have
these deep profound reasons,
but I just like changing the narrative.
You know, there probably is some good in me, you know,
that I'm doing some of this stuff,
but I think it's also funny when people see
the authentic aspects of a human being.
That's not just like, oh, I just, I have this amazing story
and I'm so passionate about this and that.
It's like, look, man, I love Jesus.
If I was pushing shopping carts at HEB,
I would be working hard.
If I was doing what I'm doing now, I'd be working hard.
So it's like, if you have to have this like
amazing crazy story, which is, you know,
it's fun to have those stories.
It's cool to tell these stories, but,
and your narrative, you know, makes up a lot of who you are.
It's important to have a,
and present yourself with a very specific narrative
of yourself because you know,
that does determine a lot of the outcomes,
but at the end of it, you have to be authentic
with yourself and just be like, you know what?
I was working as a light bulb guy.
I didn't really want to be the light bulb guy anymore.
And I was working a lot and I wasn't really getting paid
for it and I thought that'd be cool to be paid
for doing fitness stuff.
So that's why I switched, you know, and just sent it.
So.
Oh my goodness.
You have an insane amount of depths to you
and yet you have the ability to be incredibly relatable too.
How the, how do you do that?
I don't know.
All right.
Welcome in to Vision Pros Live with Jackson Calame.
I'm your show host.
We'll be doing interviews for visionary entrepreneurs
and guest leaders who are building
fantastic visions out there.
What's up everybody?
Welcome into another episode of Vision Pros Live.
I'm your host, Jackson Calame,
founder and CEO of First Class Business.
I'm so excited to have Kalvin Langenberg on today.
We met under a strange circumstance
that was so powerfully cool.
And then I dove into his brain on fitness and knowledge.
And I had a back surgery for those of you who don't know,
like I don't, I know I might look like either a,
I'm a skinny fat guy, you see.
And I might look like I'm in super shape to some people
and young and fit, but I had that back surgery
and it's really, I have a lot of pain.
And so here I met me Kalvin and he's just another fitness
buff in my eyes, you know, and then, you know, we go,
we rocked this podcast together and all of a sudden
we're both talking about Jesus like nonstop.
And I'm a little worried for the host.
I'm like, poor host.
I mean, he didn't know what he got himself into
when he put us two on the stage together.
And so we turned the whole business podcast religious.
And then from there we went out
and I brought up my pain that I have in my back
and my lack of workout ethic, if you will,
and decided to give him the chance that I give to,
I've given to more than a hundred fitness coaches,
all of which are lovely people,
but we're not the type of person who could help me
and drive me to move forward with what I need.
And they didn't understand how to adjust
for the limitations of my back.
Calvin has crushed it.
I'm super impressed.
So before I bring him on stage,
I do wanna talk about these sponsors real quick.
And today's gonna be a fast version, ColdClick.
ColdClick is what we use for LinkedIn automation.
The top of your funnel is supposed to be distribution.
That means you're supposed to be getting attention
from as many people as you can,
not so that you're the loudest person in the room
and so that you're in people's faces.
If you have automation helping you with you that,
the good news is the right people
will be attracted to your message
and they will filter towards you and say,
hey, I've been looking for something like this.
That's what you want.
And you want to have genuine relationships
that are built around the ability to serve those
who recognize what it is you're capable of doing.
You do have to get messaging on point for that too.
That's where perhaps a brand like first-class business
comes in handy.
Simply fast websites.
Simply fast websites is just what it is.
If I had had a resource when I started out
where I could buy a website for $179,
I probably wouldn't have done too much research.
I probably would have just said, hey, Shane,
do me a favor, $179 website.
Here's what I need.
Bam, sent it, get it done.
Why?
So I can move forward and work on my actual brand
by putting myself out in the market.
The website's just one small portion of that.
I've invested thousands.
I don't regret that.
I've invested hundreds of hours too.
But when it comes to getting started,
if you're at that position where you don't quite know
what to do, you need to get something launched,
I highly recommend you check that out as a resource.
And before we move in to talk about Calvin
and what he does as a coach and what his vision is,
I want to talk about the Water Project.
We have access to clean drinking water every single day.
There are millions of people in the world who do not.
We have an opportunity to also give back and help
those people with their circumstances.
And whether you choose to give a dollar to do that
or $10,000 to do that, or you choose to simply
share this message, you might share it with people
who share it with people, et cetera,
and who actually make the difference.
But what's really cool is when you give
to this particular organization,
they show you the community that you're helping out
and you get to see the process of what they're going to do
for that community and you get to see the outcome too
because they take pictures of that.
I also talked to the organization about potentially going out
and taking a camera crew with me to be on site
for one of these borehole wells or sand dams
and that's something I'm definitely looking forward to.
But they also said, well, you may want to do
a different project for that because they choose areas
of Africa that are incredibly remote and hard to get to.
They look for those places first because those are the people
who are most underserved in areas.
And I was like, wow, that's profound too.
So it's really neat to get involved
in different types of causes.
If you know a cause you'd rather turn our attention to,
do not hesitate to drop that in the comments.
We've got 8 billion people in this world to help
and I would love your help in doing that.
Now, before I bring Calvin on stage,
he did this awesome video as well.
We're going to put this on because I just love to see
his personal transformation.
He knows what it's like to have a health transformation.
Oh, hey, I'm Coach Cal.
Yep, that's me on the horse.
I'm a mental health and fitness coach.
But first, that was me and so was that and that
and yep, that's also me.
But now this is me, also me.
Yes, these are all me.
Now you're probably wondering how I went from this to this.
Well, guess what?
It doesn't matter because what matters is how I help him
get to this and him get to this and her and him
and all these other people who I paid
to write nice things about me.
Want me to tell you my secret?
Well, it's simple.
Small intentional change over a long period of time
yields true lasting results.
So are you in it for the quick fix
or are you in it for the long haul?
Dude, that was awesome.
I just, I love everything about the messaging
you did for that.
I don't see 20 year business and marketing veterans
putting a video together that well.
And you did it after talking to me between me on the show.
It's been like, I don't know, you didn't like four days
after talking, maybe four hours.
Something, I don't know.
Just put it crazy.
It was crazy.
I know you got this humble downplay about you
and you're like, oh, I'm not gonna do this.
I know you got this humble downplay about you,
but I'm just gonna rock it for you and be like,
nope, this guy is the champion of all things.
Calvin, who do you think right now,
for the sake of your vision and what you're gonna share,
we're gonna talk about vision.
We're talking about your experiences
with health and wellness.
Who should be listening and why should they listen to you?
Man, first and foremost, dude, thanks for having me on.
I really appreciate you.
That was so cool that we were on that podcast together.
I think like when I saw you, I was like,
they should change this guy's name to Jackson Chameleon
because I did my research on you.
And when I say I did my research on you,
I mean, I completely stalked you.
I was like, oh, who's this Jackson guy
who made a good podcast on?
And I see all these pictures.
I'm like, is this the same guy?
Sometimes he has glasses, sometimes.
And then I walk in and you're like eight feet tall, dude.
I'm like, oh my gosh, I was not expecting that.
So yeah, dude, you were a coat of many colors, I guess.
That's right.
All kinds of versions.
So yeah, man, thanks for having me on.
You gotta mix it up.
What was the question again?
So who should be listening
and why should they listen to you?
I don't know, man.
I think the main thing why people should listen to me
is because I know enough to know I don't know a lot.
I think that that's the thing that's really, really important
when you're listening to anybody is,
do they tell you something
just because they want you to hear that?
Or are they telling you that
because that is something that you need to hear?
And I just try to provide different perspectives for people.
I'm not gonna hear and tell you that this is the answer,
this is the way.
I'm just gonna provide my experience,
share what I have to offer.
And if that hits you, then boom, take it and run with it.
I'm nobody special.
That's what I, I was gonna say that's what I saw,
but I can't say that to what you said at the end there.
It sounds bad.
You're nobody special, that's what I saw.
Yeah, you're right, you're not special at all.
You're right.
I saw you be an extremely proactive listener.
So you're right.
You don't try to force anything on anybody.
You just were there in the moment with me.
And then as I talked to you about my woes
and humdrums of exercise,
man, you followed up on text messages
and you followed up again.
I know it's not because you're desperate for the business.
I've tried to, I was like, well, I'm ready to pay you.
And you're like, okay, cool, whenever you want to.
And you were just like genuinely there for me.
And then we just kept this texting thing up
and I was talking about business,
you're talking about health, but seriously,
the amount of knowledge that you had
about my core problems with my back,
in addition to the mindset struggle
of being motivated to work,
I've been working out almost every single day
since we met, almost daily.
I have not done that in a long time.
That last time I was that consistent was 2018 or 19.
Dude, come on, let's go.
Yeah, dude.
Hide for yourself, dude.
You helped me crush it, man.
So here's my question for you then.
What is your vision for those that you serve?
Man, if only we could rewind
and I could video you really quick
saying that I'm an active listener
and I could show that to my wife and be like,
see, see?
Oh boy.
I need to get that on.
But yeah, what is my vision?
It's recorded, you're good.
Okay, cool.
Yeah, I'll go back and steal that clip.
Let's see, what is my vision for the people that I serve?
Man, I have this vision of a family.
When I say a family, this is something that,
this is kind of a business-minded podcast.
So one of the limiting beliefs
that I've really had to let go of
is that results require relationships.
And what I mean by that is yes, it's important.
Yes, it's important for us to have a relationship
with the people that we serve.
I think one of the other limiting beliefs
that kind of ties into that is people buy from their friends.
You always hear kind of this notion that,
man, you just have to go out there
and be really, really good friends with people
and they love you and you love them
and then they'll buy from you.
It's like, that's not really what it's about, right?
People buy from people they trust, right?
Results don't require relationships, well, they do,
but the more prominent principle behind that
is results require trust, right?
So for me is I want a community of,
when I say family, I want a community of trust.
Just a community that we're all kind of moving
towards the same thing.
And I think another thing that I've learned
that has been really important is
when I was working with my dad at the light bulb industry,
in the light bulb industry, right?
There is this saying, the customer's always right.
I took that into my training, I took that into my coaching
and I would serve my clients, right?
And that was really good.
That's helpful, it's good that we serve people.
It's important to do that.
When especially we don't get anything out of it,
like that's really important,
that's what we're called to do.
Jesus wants us to do.
I don't wanna just say, however,
but there is this aspect when we're trying to get
a desired outcome, a specific result, it takes two.
So I don't like this whole idea and notion
that the client is always right,
because I would never say the coach is always right, right?
So I come in there and I provide my history,
my expertise, my specialization,
the things that I've observed
and I've been doing this for a while
so I can provide things,
but then the client also provides things.
I'm not in their body.
So when you tell me something like,
Calvin, my back hurts, this hurts,
I have no choice but to actively listen
because if I wanna help you, that's what's required.
I have to really dig into what you are telling me
because that is really, really important.
So what is my vision for the people that I serve?
I want a family, like I want a group of people
that are all fired up about the same thing.
They're all fired up about Jesus,
they're all fired up about not settling for average
in their fitness and they also love sports.
I'm like, I'm hyped about, I love competing, I love sports.
I don't wanna ever give up sports.
What that looks like, that'll different how I age
or it'll vary the more I age, but still, I wanna compete
and I think it's so sad when these guys
just kind of give up on their health
and they give up the things that they love doing
because they're in pain,
and it doesn't have to be like that.
It's just, you gotta have the right insight,
you gotta have the right knowledge
and you just gotta apply that.
It's, and some people, they just don't have that.
So that's what I wanna do.
That's what I wanna provide for the people I serve,
a family and people who are all hyped about the same thing.
I love it, man.
So let's talk about some of those either certifications
or learnings that you've had along the way.
What quantifies you or qualifies you
to talk about these aspects for people who just,
who like that paper that's on the wall
that says you have a degree or whatever.
I don't have one of those, by the way.
So quantify that however you can.
Dude, the best thing is like results, man.
Like I've just, I've gotten people results
and I will say this, I've failed a lot.
I failed a lot of people and that's taught me a lot
and I've learned from those things, you know?
So I wouldn't consider those failures
because I've learned from them,
but in reality is like, I've,
I mean, I've been doing this for seven years
and you know, on my profile, it's like,
I've been, you know, I have 11K plus hours doing this,
you know?
And then we'll talk about results.
I mean, just to give an example,
like I had this one guy, he was doing PT for,
I think he was doing it for four months, right?
He had a meniscus tear, ACL tear,
and he just wasn't seeing any results, right?
His knee was still swollen.
He just had, I mean, you go to PT,
they kind of give you this cookie cutter program
and they're just like, all right, get in there, get out.
You know, some PTs are good.
So he came to me because, you know, I was my friend.
He knew that I, you know,
he had my own meniscus tear without surgery.
And so he, you know, just asked if I,
he could come in just for a quick, you know, session.
And in the first session, he was just instantly sold
because we did some of the maneuvers,
did some of the techniques,
did some of the strength and flexibility exercises.
And it wasn't like he was instantly cured,
but he was just like, this is it.
Like, this is like,
I literally walk out of here feeling better.
And you could feel the difference.
It's instantaneous, you know?
And I've had, I mean, there's even some more,
you know, that hit closer to home, like my own dad.
Like he was running for training for a marathon.
It was his first marathon.
And he just started to have this really, really weird,
like lateral knee pain, you know?
And he didn't know why it was,
but it was gonna stop him from running.
Like he couldn't, he legitimately couldn't run anymore.
So I, you know, introduced him to some of these methods,
introduced him to some of the things
that have helped people in the past.
And lo and behold, I think it was four months after that,
he runs this marathon, you know?
And he's out there hiking mountains.
And, you know, every single time I see him, like,
hey, how's that knee doing?
He's like, hey, it's feeling pretty good.
You know, sometimes here and there,
I gotta do the exercises again, keep up with it.
But, you know, that's like, that hits closer to home.
Life changing.
Oh, it's amazing, because it's my dad, you know?
That's cool, because I get to witness it.
Like some of my other clients,
it's like one of my clients, Elaine, right?
So she came to me and she was one of the friends that,
you know, buys something from a friend, you know?
Like, if you buy something from your friend
who owns an ice cream shop, you're like,
hey, can you put a little extra sprinkles on there?
You know, you're just kind of doing him a favor, you know?
So she was kind of doing me a favor, like, all right.
And she was my mom's friend.
So she was like, all right, you know,
let's help out Kelly's son
in his new little fitness business, whatever.
And so, you know, she had all this pain and back pain,
you know, knee pain, stuff like that.
So she started working through this stuff.
Dude, now she lives on a farm and she works on a farm 24 seven.
Like that's what she does.
So I mean, before, like, it's-
That's labor intensive.
It's crazy, right?
And she does it without pain.
Like that's like, it's like,
it literally has changed her life, right?
Like, it's not just like, oh yeah,
I kind of helped her like fix her knee pain.
The reason why she's doing what she does now
is because, you know, of the stuff that I taught her.
It's so stinking cool, man.
It's amazing.
My wife, my wife, she wore a knee brace all the way.
I mean, probably through middle school,
something like that.
When we met, she, and that's how I met my wife.
I was her coach.
So, you know, not the greatest of stories,
but still that's a story for another time.
But anyways, like, you know,
last time she had gone skiing,
like she couldn't really ski, you know,
most of the days because like her knee was hurting so much.
So we went skiing,
it's Jesus now a couple of years ago, probably now,
but we kind of trained for it, you know?
I was like, all right, let's try these techniques.
Let's do this exercise.
Let's get to the standard of this exercise
because this is really good for skiers,
knee pain and stuff like that.
And we went out and skied
and she was like skiing circles around everyone, you know?
And she's like, this is so cool.
Man, I just did a post recently
about one of my football players that I coached.
She was a quarterback and he's going to punt the ball
because in high school, they're also punters.
Someone comes in and crashes into his leg, right?
And this kid's amazing, right?
I don't take a lot of credit for this kid
because he's got the craziest work ethic ever.
And he's grown up in a family
where they're all like really athletic,
but he was super dedicated.
He hit the standards on a lot of the exercises
that I gave him.
And we just knew that he was really strong and durable,
you know, he had all the kind of components.
So someone comes in on his leg
and he had a tibial fracture, right?
And when they went into the x-ray,
they had to do the x-ray multiple times,
the MRI multiple times,
because they were so surprised that there was no damage
to the ACL or any of the tendons and things
because with that type of force,
the force that was able to fracture his tibia,
it wasn't-
It should have done other damage.
Should have had other damage.
So they were so confused as to why that was,
but they chalk it up to he's young.
And again, I don't take credit for that
because I don't think that you can prevent
traumatic injuries like that.
But all I'm saying is this guy's put in the work
to create this environment within his body
that gave him the best chance, you know,
when that, you know, crazy stuff happens.
So just like results, man.
Like if I don't have like much,
like if you want to talk about credibility,
like I can give you some of my credentials,
some of my mentors that I've worked with.
But at the end of the day, it's like,
let's just get results, man.
I think you nailed it.
I'm totally fine with that.
In fact, one of the funnest clients to work with
when I was at, and I know it's not a word,
but at Video Power Marketing was Samantha Skelly.
And Sam had no credentials for being a health
and wellness coach or a nutritionist.
And she had a program to help women
overcome binge eating disorders.
She had done it herself.
She had overcome it.
And so a lot of dieticians absolutely hate her.
And a lot of people who have their certifications
absolutely despise, you know, her uneducated program.
Yet she drives so many great results
for so many women.
And you know, it's just kind of a mic drop opportunity
for her because she gets people.
And you just, you get people
and you're super dedicated to your craft as well.
So I see a lot of her in you.
You definitely look different,
but that's a different conversation
for different podcasts.
Not as pretty.
I don't know.
I guess each on their own and their tastes.
What's your vision for you, Calvin?
Man, what's my vision?
I don't know, dude.
I have one.
You have nowhere to go.
Feel free to.
Yeah, I'm 20s.
I'm 20 in the mid 20s, dude.
You know, like I'm like, I'm a visionary, you know,
like I think of all these like crazy ideas, you know.
But again, I love sports, man.
I love, I got my disc golf thing right there.
I got, you know, Star Wars, you know.
I think like the ultimate thing that I want
is I wanna be like a really good dad, you know,
cause I had a great dad, dude.
And the things that I remember about my dad
were when he was throwing the football
with us in the street, you know.
When he was playing sleeping bag football, you know,
we had to get around and he would like tackle us and stuff.
Just like being active, you know.
Sleeping bag football.
Sleeping bag football, man.
What a legendary sport.
Legendary sport.
Well, I talked about this after,
so I have that in my catalog.
But yeah, I think just being a dad, I think that's great.
But you know, this is one of the things too.
I don't wanna limit myself, you know,
with my vision as well,
because we have a nephew that comes over
and he comes over like every Saturday night, you know.
And it's like, you have so many things
that you can give to people,
like that are outside of just like your finances, you know.
So it's like, man, like I can still invest in people now.
Like I don't have to wait to impact people, you know.
I don't have to wait till I have kids to impact people,
you know.
So it's just cool, man.
I just, I enjoy impacting people.
I enjoy fitness.
I love playing basketball.
I mean, I'm obsessed with basketball, man.
I love it.
I love watching it.
I don't really, you know, watch very many sports.
I just don't have time for it.
But I love basketball.
Basketball's great.
I love all sports.
I love pickleball, disc golf, soccer.
I'll play it all, man.
I love it.
Yeah, anything with a ball.
I was the same way.
So thank goodness you're helping me get back on track
with the health aspect.
I would go out today and play and hurt myself.
Like I have to be very careful to remind myself,
no, just go on your walk.
Just do your basics.
Like get yourself back in a really good shape.
And then we can start experimenting with that again.
But I cannot wait to, that's the hard part.
I can't wait to get back on the court.
So, yep, got to, anyway, we'll keep working on that.
Were you a shooter?
What did you do?
Did you play point guard?
I mean, you're pretty tall.
They call me JJ Reddick at Lifetime Fitness.
So yeah, three and D.
And I was my go-to.
I guard one through five.
So not the NBA level, golly, those guys are huge.
But up to about six, nine, I'm good.
I can pretty much keep a person scoreless.
So not anymore, but I was.
All right, so there's that.
I don't get into the sports conversations that much anymore.
I miss it.
It sucked, cause you're like, man,
I want to talk about these sports things,
but I don't do them anymore.
And so now I just sound like a has-been, letterman.
Oh man, I let myself get into that, right?
So we, yeah, it's time to get me back out there.
Once that's your challenge.
That's right.
So normally in the next segment,
we go over worst business experience ever.
We've also got a shift with that question coming up,
though we're going to be changing it
to what's your worst leadership experience ever.
So I think that's also more relevant
for somebody like yourself, because,
well, really for anybody, because if we're not in tune
with great leadership, then as business owners,
we're really missing the point to begin with.
So this is more core to the objective of helping Vision Pro.
So you get to be the first one to hop into this question.
What's your worst leadership experience ever?
All right, well, what better example
to use than yourself, right?
So by far worst leadership experience ever.
I would say just the first one that came to mind
is I was coaching this one gal
and she was a really busy mom, right?
And this is kind of earlier on in my coaching training
kind of career.
And I just didn't listen to her.
I didn't listen to what she needed.
And I was telling her what she needed.
And what I mean by that was just,
she had games to take her kids to,
she had stuff that she was doing
that was just pulling her in all different directions.
And what did I do when she told me these things?
I told her, okay, well, here's more stuff to do.
Here's four days of workouts.
Here's an extra day of workout
because you're not getting the stuff done, right?
She wasn't getting the stuff done
that I was telling her to do.
And so I wasn't meeting her where she was at.
And that's like the biggest thing that I took from that
is like, man, that's the worst thing you can do
is you can't, like when you don't meet someone
where they're at and you meet them
where you want them to be,
or like you have these expectations of them
that don't meet their expectations.
So I would say that was a major fail.
And then I would also say that there was one time
I was talking to this client
and we were in the middle of the session
and we were talking about protein.
And she was like, I had mentioned something
about how much protein she should be eating
and she asked me like, oh yeah, I'm eating this much.
And I was like, oh, well, you know,
you should be eating this much, right?
She's like, really, I didn't know that.
I was like, how did you not know that?
You know, like that's like,
we've been training for a year and a half now
and we haven't gone over those really basic details.
So I think that that's really what kind of got me into
like kind of the avenues that I am now.
It's like, man, I gotta really make sure
that I do my due diligence on the front end
to number one and make sure I know where somebody is at
so I can meet them where they're at.
And then number two, make sure they have the basic tools
and information necessary on the front end
to carry out and achieve a high quality result.
Well said.
And I'm gonna go back to example number one
because you expose the reality
that you became self-aware to that issue.
Did you do that by yourself
or did somebody else help you analyze and realize
that you weren't meeting her where she was at?
How did you uncover that?
And accept it?
I think she helped me.
She helped me a lot.
But yeah, I mean, she was just like,
dude, like I can't do all of this.
And I think it was just that realization.
It's like, I really want my people to get results.
And so I just gotta be a problem solver.
I think that maybe that's the thing is like most people,
they wanna be problem solvers,
but they don't wanna admit when the problem's them.
So I'm willing to be a problem solver
even if the problem's me, like let's solve this thing.
So I found it, I was like,
well, she's not the problem, me.
And then I'm not saying that the client's never the problem,
but there's sometimes with the client's the problem.
And then sometimes you have to be introspective
and just say, oh yeah, that was me.
Right.
Yeah, right.
Oh man, the confidence that people have the opportunity
to develop to get to that same level
of being able to just own it and say,
man, I'm either not capable to do this or wow,
I'm really not doing this well.
Just being able to own it, sit in it,
and then move forward, find the solution within,
that's so powerful.
Well said, man.
All right, so what's your best leadership experience?
What's that look like?
Man, this is a good question.
And this can be you, this could be somebody who's-
I got one.
So it's my brother's bachelor party,
older brother's bachelor party,
and we're doing this power park fitness thing.
My older brother, he was,
he's not really into like American Ninja Warrior,
but we're all kinda, let's go do something active.
So there's this power park fitness thing,
and there's these obstacles,
every, I don't know, 20 meters or something like that.
You gotta do a rope climb, you gotta carry this stuff.
So we go there and one of the obstacles
is you gotta carry this really, really heavy bag
up this hill and around,
and then that's the obstacle.
It's not like super tiring, but whatever.
You just carry the bag and you go up around.
So anyway, I'm running with my friend and my friend,
I got good quality friends, dude.
I have great friends.
That's something I'm super blessed with.
So one of my friends, he's in the Air Force right now,
actually.
So he's kinda running next to me and then,
I forget who it was.
I think it was my little brother.
I don't wanna call out my little brother on this one,
but I think it was my little brother.
Yeah, he's like running next to me.
Could've been someone else,
but he didn't wanna carry the bag.
He didn't wanna do it.
He was just like, eh, I just, it's too heavy,
like whatever, I can't do it.
So what my friend did, he goes and he grabs his bag.
He has his own bag.
He runs it by himself, you know,
and then puts it down and says,
look, I did it for both of us.
Now you go and do it.
Like if I can do it for both of us,
you can do it for you one time, you know?
And I think that that was such a, oh, cool.
How the heck did that happen?
I don't know, that was cool.
That's new.
Wow.
I don't know, maybe it's a new update.
But yeah, I think that was the coolest form of,
like I just remember that one.
Like that's the first one that popped in my brain
because like leadership is so example driven, you know?
Like I've, I don't qualify anyone as a leader
that's not willing to do it themselves, you know?
And it's really, really hard to take someone seriously
when they have no idea what it feels like
or what it even is to experience that.
It's not to say I don't listen to people
if they haven't experienced that
because you can learn anything from anybody, right?
But the reality is like, man,
I really value those people that have been there.
They've done it.
And yeah, I just thought that was a great example
of leadership that he kind of showed.
And yeah, my little brother, he picked it up and he did it.
And he was like, oh, that was easy.
Yeah, I like the way you define that.
You know, you said that something to the tune
of you don't believe that people
who aren't doing it are leaders,
but you still give the space.
You recognize that there's an opportunity
to learn from somebody there, right?
And I look at that kind of like somebody who is an orphan
who hasn't become a father yet, right?
They may have some profound wisdom about fatherhood
from what they lacked, right?
Or from what they longed to have.
At the same time, I believe you're right.
They're not necessarily a leader, you know,
of like, hey, here's how you be a father.
It doesn't mean they can't have some
of the most profound wisdom for it.
So way to pull those two realities together.
That was-
And the opposite is true too.
There's a lot of people who are out there
that are doing something.
They have no idea why they got to where they're at.
And then they give you your advice and you're like,
that ain't it, bro.
I'm a father.
I know that feeling.
I'm trying to figure it out.
We make mistakes as we go, right?
That you are the problem aspect.
Being a father is one of the most humbling realities of,
oh, nope, it's not them.
It's me.
I'm the one who needs to do a better job.
All right, Calvin, let's pretend
that this is the last conversation that we get to have
and that nobody else is gonna hear from you after this.
What powerful lesson can other visionaries learn
from your experience?
Take imperfect action, man.
You know, I think that the longer you wait
because you're afraid of like failing,
man, you just waste so much time, you know?
And when you're in that struggle, dude,
like I forget who it was.
I think it was some like Navy Seal
or some book I read somewhere.
Maybe someone told me this.
I have no idea.
But they're like, you know, when you're in those cold baths,
you know, those are all like popular or whatever.
Not with me, but I got you.
Yeah, no, they're too cold for me.
Anyways, so one of the things that the guy said
like when you're in like that situation,
like when it's just like, this is so uncomfortable, right?
You tell yourself that this is what cold feels like, right?
So one of the things that's really helped me is like, man,
this is really hard.
Like sometimes marriage is really hard.
Sometimes the following Jesus is really hard.
Sometimes business is really hard.
But when you're in those moments,
you can kind of think to the people
that have accomplished those things ahead of you.
And when they relay their story about the struggle,
the difficulty, you can think about,
oh, this is what it feels like.
You know, this is what it feels like to struggle.
This is what cold feels like, you know?
And so, you know, for people who don't wanna settle
for average, that's really difficult because that is,
you're like, you're usually just always in the fire.
You know, you're always questioning yourself.
You're always doubting the next step.
You know, you never seem to be satisfied
with what you've accomplished in some senses.
But like, that's just, that's what it is, you know?
Like it's hard, it's supposed to be hard.
And when you accept that,
when you stop like looking for it to be easy,
that's like definitely the most powerful thing
I can give to people that, you know, are visionaries.
It's just like taking some imperfect action.
But I think the one of the best means,
so you can fix your mindset for taking imperfect action
is being willing to say, ah, this is what,
this is what it feels like to suck, you know?
Because then when it's good stuff,
then you can like be like, oh,
this is what it feels like to be in the present.
You know, this is what it feels like to be on the podium.
You know, you have to go through that hardship
to know what it's like to be on the podium.
Because if, you know, if someone just walks up to you
and says, here's a trophy, you know, your first place.
Right.
It's like, that's amazing.
That's awesome, incredible.
You won, Calvin.
Yeah, thank you.
Wait, what is this for?
You know, I have two of those actually.
Yeah.
One of them broke and I was like, oh, that's fine.
That was a lame title anyway.
Like it was just like a make up trophy
that a company wanted to include me in.
And I was like, oh boy.
And this one, this is kind of that too.
This is first place at the golf tournament, right?
And so it's fun.
It's a good memory, but I was by far
the worst player on the golf team.
I had out of 18 holes, I had one hole that I contributed on.
And they, I mean, they destroyed the competition.
So my one positive stroke didn't add anything to our victory,
but that's okay.
You know, that's right.
But no, I don't want a trophy for it.
You know, it's like just funny that I got it.
That's awesome.
So, but you did drive me way back though on the,
let's go back to the lesson learned here.
You talked about imperfect action and you talked about,
you know, knowing that you're also going to be facing
storms in life with that imperfect action.
You know, that's like a, it's a recipe for a bit of a
disaster, an immediate disaster,
but that's also what builds the strength.
Okay.
So you, you like seriously,
it drove me profoundly back to my mission.
So I was in Uruguay, you know, and, and you know, we're,
we're serving God, you know, at our highest capacities.
And you know, sometimes our highest capacity was quite lame
and miserable and we weren't very good at it.
But on this particular occasion, I, there was,
there was apparently a hurricane and I didn't care.
I wasn't paying attention to the hurricane.
I knew I needed to go to my appointment to go see people.
And so we go out in this massive rainstorm and my,
like how bad was it?
My umbrella, after we got off the bus to where we were going,
I started walking on the highway,
my umbrella got shredded like in half.
It was, it was, I was like, all right, well, goodbye umbrella.
You know, and, and I'm, I'm singing a hymn, you know,
as I'm, I'm walking through the storm,
I know my companion is just miserable.
He cannot believe that I'm willing to go out in the storm.
And I'm singing songs about God.
As I trudge through it, remembering the people of the past,
the pioneers in the case of my church,
who went across the plains in snow,
without shoes, with a trail of blood behind them to get to
their, their, get through their challenges.
And that's what allowed me to, to sing that song.
That's what allowed me to go through that storm and say,
you know what, this is what the greats did, you know,
and this is my time to, to trudge through my storm
and make it happen.
So there's, there's been lots of opportunities in life to seek
that don't go out in a hurricane.
That's not my advice.
If you're listening, you know,
that's probably a little bit too extreme,
but you're going to face challenging adversities.
And instead of hiding from them,
there's often a call to step up.
100%.
So let's dive into health and wellness a little bit further.
You know, if somebody's, and I love this,
pain-free sets the gain free, right?
So you've really, every time I've talked to you,
you've been very careful,
been very careful about making sure that I'm doing things
that don't disrupt my health even further.
You know, there's a bigger,
there's a bigger, more common quote out there, right?
The, that no pain, no gain.
Let's talk about those two realities.
So when you're, when you're,
people use phrases, right?
And they don't necessarily mean that like,
when somebody says something like that,
it's a hundred percent like truth, you know,
it might be true in certain circumstances, you know,
but what's true is, you know, subject to change.
They're ingredients, aren't they?
I mean, I'll back you up on that.
Like a cake, right?
Just cause a cake is sweet does not mean
it only has sweet ingredients.
Exactly, 100%, great analogy.
So pain, like no pain, no gain,
that kind of speaks to the notion
of what we were just talking about, right?
In order to progress, progress needs pain.
Like there is no way around it, right?
There's no way to,
there's no way to bypass the difficulty, right?
Right.
That's 100% true.
But what's also true and what's more true
with joint pain specifically,
and there's two types of pain within the body, right?
We have acute pain and we have chronic pain.
So acute pain is like injury, you know,
something that kind of traumatic that happens,
jumping up for a rebound,
you land on someone's ankle, pop, you know,
chronic pain, you know, you kind of,
maybe it's overuse or maybe you just kind of like
wake up one day, like, oh, my neck kind of hurts,
kind of turns into something else.
Or maybe you had that ankle sprain,
ankle sprain healed, but then, you know,
next couple of years, something in your ankle
just kind of, you know, persists, you know?
So let's-
Do you consider arthritis, tendonitis, chronic pains?
All that stuff, yep.
It's all, it's all, yeah, just kind of things that,
just pain, we understand where pain is.
It seems insurmountable to a lot of people,
or they seem- 100%.
Irreconcilable.
Yes, and so the fundamental thing
that we have to understand about pain
is that it stems from the brain, okay?
So there's multiple studies done that
they've done x-rays on people, right?
And they look at their knees, for example,
and they're like, all right, you got like a torn meniscus,
you got like no cartilage there,
your ACL is like partially torn.
There's a guy in the NBA with no ACLs, all right?
He was like, played for the Spurs, no ACLs, right?
And so they're like, you know, they look at this stuff
and they're like, are you in pain?
And the person's like, no, I'm not in pain.
That's weird.
Opposites also true, right?
There's people that have like, yeah, my knee really hurts,
something just really terrible,
there's something must've happened.
You go in there, look, everything's totally fine.
There's no rhyme or reason to it.
Everything's structurally fine.
So that's the first thing we have to understand about pain
is that it stems from the brain.
So it's a brain problem.
It's not always a structural,
it's not always a structural problem.
Like there could be structurally something wrong there,
but what we have to fix is we have to fix
how your brain perceives what is going on there.
So let's say that somebody has
some type of traumatic injury, right?
I like to use an ankle sprain
because basketball players, very common, right?
So your body is super adaptable.
Your body is really durable,
but your body's also very protective.
So you have the traumatic injury
and your body is gonna map out that, okay, this happened,
this is bad.
And then it's also going to map out physically
to protect itself.
So it's gonna create some scar tissue.
It's gonna create some resistance
to that range of motion again.
And then your brain's also gonna map out like,
hey, like remember every single time you jump this way,
chill, you know?
Like remember what happened, there was trauma there.
So what you have to do if you wanna get out of pain,
you have to train your brain out of pain.
So my two-step formula for this is alleviate and load.
Okay, so the first thing you have to do
is you have to alleviate.
This is where pain-free comes in.
The pain-free sets the gain-free part.
So this is things like, I mean,
there's so many alleviation techniques out there.
Literally moving, dancing, any type of something like this,
that is going to help alleviate pain,
literally any type of movement.
It does not matter if it feels good, do it.
That's gonna alleviate the pain, right?
So that's gonna tell your brain that it's okay,
it's totally fine.
Some of my favorite forms of alleviation
are floss bands for tendonitis and breaking up scar tissue.
Because what happens when you start to break up scar tissue,
when you start to deal with your pain,
if you're just pushing through that pain
specifically in your joints,
then you might actually be causing some structural change,
but your brain will always send signals
that that's a dangerous position.
So you 100%, there you go, it's nice.
No worries.
So you 100% have to, whenever you're doing these movements,
you have to be able to regress them to a point
where it's like, this almost feels good.
So that's the pain-free part.
And then we have load.
So we have alleviate and then we have load.
And we know that the body is more
than just muscles move bones.
So there's this really kind of, I don't know,
extreme term called biotinsegrity,
which basically means that our bodies
are more than just muscles moving joints.
There's more to human movement than that.
There's fascia, there's our kinetic energy,
there's the water that's inside the cells.
We really don't know as much as we think we know
about human movement yet.
And so one of the things that we have to understand
about that and how it correlates with pain
is that when you're trying to fix something,
it's not just about fixing the muscles, right?
It's not just about that.
So this term biotinsegrity is just important.
And yeah, just that the whole system is really important.
So what they found is that the only way
to change structurally the integrity of your body
is through loading, right?
Is through pressure.
And that's just, I mean, that's a universal principle.
Like that's why I like a lot of these things
is because they all stem from universal principles.
Like pressure makes diamonds.
That's true.
So you'd need to load the tissue if you want it to adapt.
You need to create tolerance in the tissue
if you want it to adapt,
but you cannot do that if your brain is sensing pain.
So that's why it's pain-free sets the gains free
because first we have to alleviate
and then we can actually change
the structural integrity of the tissue.
So that's kind of how I go about pain.
And that's where that whole term pain-free
sets the gains free comes from.
I love it.
And for those of you who see that, oh my gosh,
Calvin has like an 80 year old mind and a 25 year old body.
Like I just cannot wait to see where life takes us
over the next 25 years.
And the wisdom that you gain throughout your journey, Calvin,
I plan on staying very close to that.
Right now Calvin's best and the easiest place to access
him and what he does is on Instagram.
That simple.
Just go to Instagram and long haul coaching.
Follow him on there so you can get access.
And then of course people can private message you on there.
That's the best way to contact you
or is there another way you prefer to be contacted?
Yep, that's perfect.
That's perfect.
I mean, and it's just, it's just chock full
of so many great examples and opportunities
for how to improve your health.
Calvin, thank you so much for being on Vision Pros today.
Is there anything else that you'd like
to share before we go?
No, man, I do have some free resources for people
that may want to try some of this stuff out.
They're a little bit skeptical.
So I have a free six week strength and flexibility program
and I have some guides for, you know,
just a pain free guide and I have a nip knee pain
in the bud guide.
So just different resources for people that are free.
Just, you know, trying to provide as much
even outside of Instagram to help people.
So.
Absolutely, we will absolutely drop those
in the landing page as well for this episode.
So if anybody's looking for those,
you'll find those in the show notes
and Vision Pros, it's been an honor to serve you today.
We've had quite a few episodes.
I couldn't ask for a better fitting guest
to end my day with.
Calvin, your brother from another mother,
I appreciate you, man.
And have a fantastic day yourself.
You too, man.
Love you, dude.
Bye bye.
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