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So exploring wisdom to unlock your true life's calling,

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how do we basically work towards being able to unlock

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our true life's calling?

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has a true life's calling.

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We will be doing interviews for visionary entrepreneurs

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fantastic visions out there.

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Another episode of Vision Pros Live.

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I'm your host, Jackson Calame,

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founder and CEO of First Class Business.

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I'm so excited to bring Drazen Alcazar on today.

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He and I hit it off super well in our first alignment call.

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One, we both speak Spanish and that's always fun,

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but more importantly, like there's just this like,

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you know that brother from another feeling you get

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when you meet somebody and you're just like,

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man, this makes sense.

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Well, he just got a class act personality.

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And when it comes to establishing our life's callings

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and passions, anybody who listens to this regularly

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knows I'm all about that.

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And so that's gonna be a lot of fun to bring him on.

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Before I bring Drazen on,

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I also wanna make sure to point out our sponsors

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and cause opportunities.

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These are important for you.

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I wouldn't do it if it wasn't.

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These aren't paid for by the way,

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but we will have paid for someday.

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We've had one too, but in this case,

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these are companies that I believe in or I utilize.

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who are out there.

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So ColdClick.

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ColdClick is how we do our LinkedIn automation.

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It's probably how we met Drazen by the way.

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a bunch of like-minded people

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that we would probably want to work with,

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but we don't have to force the issue

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of contacting people one at a time.

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The distribution at the top of your funnel.

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If you're a visionary and you're trying to expand your vision

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and share it with people,

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yes, you can go and talk to people one at a time,

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but it would also be helpful if you had something

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that allowed you to get in front of hundreds of people

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per week and filter through the ones

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that are ready to talk to you now.

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where they can start a relationship.

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Two, we've also got Simply Fast websites up there.

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that I would have loved to have

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when I was first launching my website, JCal Digital.

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That brand still exists by the way.

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jcaldigital.com and see where firstclassbusiness.io

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that wasn't even finished.

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that you don't need to be perfect to launch businesses.

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your principles and just go after it.

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and way too much time trying to build that myself

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for people who are just getting started out.

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who you could talk to about web design and web development

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and kind of conquer both those.

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I really wish him the best.

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I hope he crushes it and continues to succeed.

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The Water Project is a fantastic opportunity to give back.

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We're all, anybody who has something like this

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within 20 yards from themselves,

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we have life made for us in many ways.

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to clean drinking water.

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that there's a project called the Water Project

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where you can give back to these communities

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to this and give, please do.

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to be able to see the transformation too.

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what they're building,

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and you get to see the fulfillment of the process

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and kind of, there's nothing stopping you

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from building a relationship with those real life people

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just like you do with any book that you read

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but in this case, something actually took place

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So with all that said, again, I'm excited to host Drazen.

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Let me pull up real quick his story

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you can pause and read this.

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more about why he's become a serial entrepreneur

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I'm not gonna dive into the dynamics of that too much

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because I wanna take full advantage of our time together

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and bring him on stage.

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Gracias.

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In the meantime, Drazen, welcome to the show, man.

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Thank you, Jackson.

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Happy to be here.

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I'm honored.

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I'm just, one, I was already honored,

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but I'm like super honored today because it's Friday

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It's my last meeting.

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I love it.

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We get to end this thing together.

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Going to my weekend on a super high.

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I feel the same way.

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Yeah, man, it's awesome.

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So bromance is going strong.

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I know we've made some people leave because of it.

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who should be listening, Drazen,

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to what we're gonna talk about today

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I think anyone who's looking to grow, right?

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okay, how do I get to the next level of being able to,

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again, really unlock my true life's calling

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is what I like to call it.

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I think everybody's looking for that, right?

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but it's one of those things that every single person

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should be looking for the true life's calling.

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I mean, literally everybody needs that.

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through all the mentors that I've had in my life,

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I've been able to figure out and uncover,

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or unlock, if you will,

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an even bigger part of the process.

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as soon as I'm able to learn something new

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I turn right back around and I pay it forward.

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I'm able to just pass that knowledge

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and that information on to the other people

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because I want people to be able to understand that.

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I want people to realize that

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there's really so much more waiting ahead of us

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than what's behind us.

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I love it.

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And you talked about the niching down, man.

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I speak against that so often

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because lots of people talk about it

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and it's a good thing to do.

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But at the same time, like how niche is Google?

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How niche is Amazon?

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How niche is the Bible?

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don't worry about that.

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a lot of us, I think we're all connected.

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that we are connected,

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especially those who are listening to the podcast.

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I also think that it's important to quantify

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some of your accolades.

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for those that you serve.

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Tell me about your background.

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Who are you, Drayson?

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What got you to the point where you've kind of uncovered

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this process of unlocking Life's True Calling?

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So I would say that the primary place

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where it all began was in the military for me.

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I got out of a school, went into the military.

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I went into the Marines at a very young age.

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of where I was going to be headed in life.

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if there was anything to be extracted

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from my time in the military service

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is one small phrase that they taught me

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that basically was able to push me forward

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in everything that I did, which was adapt and overcome.

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I was gonna be embrace the suck, but I got you.

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Adapt and overcome.

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It's one of those simple things

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that if you just remember that,

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it just makes life so much easier

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because then anytime you encounter an obstacle,

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anytime that you come across something

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that you feel has no solution or that you can't get over,

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well, take some time, sure, process it,

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adapt to it and then overcome it.

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the more comfortable you feel with overcoming other obstacles.

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And before you know it, you can look back

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and you've overcome a ton of different obstacles

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and you realize that, you know what?

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I can overcome this next obstacle

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that's in front of me at the same time.

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And so it's kind of like that mentality

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that allowed me to then transition into entrepreneurship.

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And from every single entrepreneur that I've spoken with,

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it's not one of those things you necessarily say,

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I'm gonna become an entrepreneur when I grow up.

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Most people just kind of fall into it

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from just different things, different conversations,

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the people that you meet along the way.

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And so as I began to dive in deeper into entrepreneurship

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and I ended up creating relationships,

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the thing that kind of came out of it was that

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we're all looking for the same thing,

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how to be able to make the world that we live in better

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and how to basically unlock our true life's purpose,

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our calling, if you will, right?

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Every single entrepreneur,

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but then every single person ultimately is looking for that.

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Like, how do I feel more fulfilled at the end of the day

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with the thing that I'm doing

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and not just potentially just do something

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just for the sake of a paycheck?

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And so it was that essentially mentality

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that led me to be in all kinds of different industries,

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from again, finance to venture capital,

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private equity, biometrics, federal business intelligence

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at one point, I mean, you name it.

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I've gotten a chance to do a lot of these things altogether.

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And it's really through that combination of skills

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that I've acquired over the years

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that I'm able to now kind of look at problems

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from a whole different perspective

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and then be able to solve them, if you will,

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or help people solve them

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when it comes to whatever they may be going through,

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just because I'm able to bring the experience,

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the knowledge, and ultimately the wisdom, right?

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That's been acquired over a number of years

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to help people out, because that's all I wanna do.

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I love that.

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Thank you for sharing all that.

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It makes me think about really meditate

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on the audience at hand.

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Most of you that are listening in,

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you have achieved extreme success.

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And a lot of you haven't owned that.

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And you may struggle to recognize the fact

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that of how successful you actually are

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and how much you've accomplished,

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and you haven't hit what you want to, perhaps.

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But when we're looking at people who are extremely successful,

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I also know people who are extremely successful,

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a lot of them, that still haven't found that life's calling.

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That's right.

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That's a scary reality for people to address

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in order to think about.

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If you're there, you don't really want somebody

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to push you on it, especially on stage.

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Or when you're in, I don't know, a new relationship,

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you don't actually wanna talk about that, people.

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This is a podcast, safe environment.

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You're by yourself, think through this.

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If you haven't found your true life's calling,

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Briar, you feel like you may not have,

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how do we get there, Jason?

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What's the vision to move there?

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And what does it feel like to go from being ultra successful

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to knowing that you have your life's calling?

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Let's talk about that.

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There's a feeling that comes over you

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that's indescribable, right?

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There's something that can't be filled

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with just about anything you can imagine,

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whether it's an accolade or numbers on a chart,

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numbers on a bank account, et cetera.

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It's just one of those things that you feel

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like you're online, finally.

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You feel like you're on fire, like I'm on now.

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And there's something about that feeling

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that then begins to actually attract other people to you

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because of that.

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Because one of those things that's like energy attracts

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energy, much like how you and I became friends right away

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from the very first time we had a conversation.

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And so the things that you begin to uncover

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and be able to attract to you become the very things

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you were looking for it to begin with.

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When it comes to being able to attract better friendships,

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better relationships, better partnerships, et cetera,

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it all comes to you just based on the fact that it's you

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who is basically being that.

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There is a saying that I love that talks about the flower,

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all it has to do is just bloom and it attracts the bee

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to be able to come and polarize it, right?

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So it's the same exact thing.

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Oh, I love that.

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It's all we're doing.

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We just have to essentially work on ourselves

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to then fully bloom.

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And when you bloom, you're going to attract all the people

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that are meant to be in your life at that point.

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And a flower, if it could go search for the bees would die.

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Exactly.

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That's, oh man, that's cool.

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That's a really powerful reality.

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And I've seen that too.

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That's ultimately, I spent, I spent,

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I'm not gonna say I have all of the answers

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to life's callings.

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I'm also a big believer we have multiple callings to life.

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I'm very happy with the calling that I have right now,

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which is the bridge, the economic gap

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between North America and South America.

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That's my grand calling.

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And to be the best father I can to the four kids that I have,

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I am married to that responsibility at this point.

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So there's layers of that.

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But I spent years trying to figure that out too.

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What does my life calling look like?

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How does that work?

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And it's, when I started to watch people,

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other people who are being successful

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and seem to have their life callings,

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I started to notice exactly what you just said.

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They were just like that flower.

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They just blossomed.

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They just focused on being their best self.

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The biggest challenge we come across a lot of times

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is that, we live in a society now where so many people

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want you to be able to become stronger at the things

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that you're potentially weak at, right?

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Rather than actually become stronger

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at the things that you're strongest at.

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And so that's something that is, I think,

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essentially taught in school a lot of times,

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which again, there's obviously things you can do

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when you finally leave school or throughout education

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that say, okay, well, what am I really good at?

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What are my strengths?

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And then because we've been so conditioned essentially

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to feel like, okay, well, those strengths are just

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what I have and that's what comes naturally to me.

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But I was always told that I needed to be better

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at this other thing.

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And so there's so much time spent on the other thing

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rather than basically becoming your strengths

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that then it's really that much harder

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than be able to find your true life's calling

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just based on that alone.

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The fact that you're constantly at odds with yourself

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because you know what you want to do.

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You know what you're really good at.

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You know what you love to do.

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You know what makes you come alive.

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And yet you're not doing it simply

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because that's not what you were essentially told.

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You were told to do something else.

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Right, your instructions manual, how do you work?

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And you know, it's funny, I can feel the weight

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of the stress on my body remembering all the years

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that I spent working on what other people felt

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I wasn't good at.

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You know, and Strengths Finder 2.0

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changed my perspective in that.

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That book by Connor.

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I love that.

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I was 22 when we took that test, my wife and I at the time.

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And it was our favorite date night.

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Like for the next several years.

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We were laughing, we were laughing hysterically

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at how much we learned about each other

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by having taken that.

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And we both had the exact same first number one trait

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which was learner, but hers was completely opposite of mine.

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And how we went about how we learn.

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And nobody ever validated my learning style growing up.

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I was always a distraction in class,

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but I learned through communicating with people,

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which hence why I probably have the black.

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And look at the kind of relationship

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that you have because of it.

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I mean, think about that, that just a sentence alone,

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the fact that you both chose to do that with each other,

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I mean, speaks volumes of not only the relationship

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that you have, but again, the relationships that we can have

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if we choose to basically focus on,

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okay, what are our strengths?

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And then how do we basically use that

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for the relationship that we wanna build?

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I would agree.

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I think we had a pretty phenomenal relationship

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at the time.

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And sometimes you think the grass is greener

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in order things happen.

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So there's that, but it doesn't deny the good that existed.

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And I think that a lot of people who go through divorce

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or go through challenges in relationships,

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we live in a society where we wanna polarize the situation

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and we don't end up honoring the goodness of said person

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and we should.

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And that's my responsibility in the equation.

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So let's-

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Every experience ends up becoming a stepping stone

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to ultimately where we're meant to be anyway, right?

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Yeah, absolutely.

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I wanna pick on chat GBT for a minute in this regard.

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So we've got, and everybody's listening in again,

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this is all about comprehension analysis, by the way,

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this exploring wisdom to unlock your true life's calling.

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We can get caught in semantics games,

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but I'm gonna specifically share something that we did

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with Drazen is we're trying to figure out on our end,

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how do we represent fully this massive vision

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that you have?

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And in doing so, we'll use chat GBT

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to help us figure out headlines for the show.

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And it's interesting.

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And the reason why I bring this up guys

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is because you can be two degrees off course

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and completely ruin your life.

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You can run right into a mountain

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if you were off course in a plane, for instance,

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by just two degrees.

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These lines that chat GBT was trying to give us,

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unleash purpose, guides to heartfelt expression,

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discover essence, right?

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Insights of life's true purpose, live with purpose,

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advice for heart's desires.

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There's nothing wrong with these.

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These are great headlines for CNN and Fox

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and major plays of heartfelt living,

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tips for living for life's true purpose,

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unlock potential wisdom on life's true calling.

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Well, I'm sorry, but that takes the assumption

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that the person has that figured out

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for everybody who's going to that article.

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And I take issue with hyperbole like that.

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And we as human beings, we sometimes,

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and so notice the difference.

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If you're watching this and you wanna go back

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and listen to those again,

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exploring wisdom to unlock your true life's calling

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with Drazen Arcos here.

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He's not here to be your muse and force that upon you.

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And he's not here to tell you what it is.

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That's something that you gotta figure out.

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So we chose this title very purposely

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to say unlock your true life's calling

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and we're exploring wisdom to do that.

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We're not the definitive oracle to make that happen.

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And I would love your thoughts on that Drazen.

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Like we live in a world where we get boxed in often.

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And if people don't box you in, they kinda,

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some people are like, well,

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they're very wishy washy with how they do things.

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I think there's a harmony in there somewhere,

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but what's your take on that?

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If you learn to live authentically

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or the most authentic version of yourself that you can be,

529
00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,560
then you will find that over time,

530
00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:00,680
maybe not right away, right?

531
00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:04,640
Maybe not overnight, maybe not even after a little bit

532
00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:06,200
of time or a significant amount of time,

533
00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,520
but over time, what's gonna happen is that

534
00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,660
you will begin to surround yourself with people that just,

535
00:20:11,660 --> 00:20:14,080
again, not only make you come alive,

536
00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:15,940
but at the same time support you

537
00:20:15,940 --> 00:20:17,820
in everything that you're trying to do.

538
00:20:17,820 --> 00:20:20,400
So there is power in that because again,

539
00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,720
you're trying to essentially, your goal,

540
00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,120
meaning my goal, your goal, everyone's goal

541
00:20:26,120 --> 00:20:27,280
should always be like,

542
00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:30,200
how do I become the most authentic version of myself?

543
00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,660
Because that's what's going to take away the people

544
00:20:32,660 --> 00:20:34,440
that think potentially are wishy washy

545
00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:36,680
or even with you, right?

546
00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:38,880
The people that you may be surrounded with right now,

547
00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:40,720
and you think that they're like solid as a rock,

548
00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,240
but then as, but that's only because that's maybe

549
00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,000
up to the purpose that you've been living so far.

550
00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,300
But if you were to completely change your mind

551
00:20:48,300 --> 00:20:49,440
and do something totally different,

552
00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,160
then all of a sudden this person who was always there

553
00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,820
and always was very supportive of everything you were doing,

554
00:20:54,820 --> 00:20:56,120
they may not be supportive of that anymore

555
00:20:56,120 --> 00:20:57,400
just because they don't understand

556
00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:00,800
or that's not what they believe that you should be doing.

557
00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:02,560
So then all of a sudden they do that to you, right?

558
00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,000
And it's one of those things that you will find the people

559
00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,440
that are meant to be part of your circle.

560
00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,040
And I think that's the scariest part,

561
00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:10,860
when it comes to being able to take this leap of faith,

562
00:21:10,860 --> 00:21:13,800
if you will, and being able to unlock that,

563
00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:17,960
that every single person is just so comfortable

564
00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,160
in this box, if you will, of like, okay, well,

565
00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:23,080
I have my support system, I have the,

566
00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:26,200
where I live, where I work, what I'm doing.

567
00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:27,640
I don't really know if I want to leave this

568
00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,900
because it's doing everything it should,

569
00:21:29,900 --> 00:21:32,140
not realizing that essentially they're giving up

570
00:21:32,140 --> 00:21:35,360
so much more for just that little bit of a slice,

571
00:21:35,360 --> 00:21:38,320
if you will, of life that we're receiving at that time.

572
00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,200
And that was the hardest thing that I had to do

573
00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:41,320
time and time again, right?

574
00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,360
Figure out that, okay, there is more out there.

575
00:21:44,360 --> 00:21:46,120
There are people that want to support me,

576
00:21:46,120 --> 00:21:48,840
that want to love me, that want to be a part of my life.

577
00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:50,480
So I have to go and search for them

578
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,780
because they're searching for me too.

579
00:21:52,780 --> 00:21:54,440
Yeah, absolutely, man.

580
00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,280
That was a very good use of the word,

581
00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,320
always in my opinion,

582
00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,960
is always be striving to live our best life.

583
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:05,400
And that's one of the hyperboles that I'm okay with.

584
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,320
Rather than the, again, and it's,

585
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,080
what I hope people realize is that

586
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:14,220
the pattern recognition of communication

587
00:22:14,220 --> 00:22:17,680
is often labeled as a semantics issue.

588
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:22,040
When in reality, if we're more careful about our word choice

589
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:26,580
and more intentional with how we choose to see things,

590
00:22:26,580 --> 00:22:29,760
we end up on track with our life's purpose.

591
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,320
And again, I see that come out a lot

592
00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,240
in the way that you're so inclusive

593
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,320
in how you communicate with people.

594
00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,560
Dre, what's your vision for you?

595
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,240
What do you see for yourself in the future?

596
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,440
You know, one of the things that I've learned,

597
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,040
especially like I think in the last,

598
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,920
this has been pretty incredible for a year for me,

599
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,360
kind of like rediscovery and figuring that out.

600
00:22:52,360 --> 00:22:53,800
And I think that's also important

601
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,860
when it comes to being able to be on this path, right?

602
00:22:56,860 --> 00:22:59,920
There's always going to be a realigning, if you will,

603
00:22:59,920 --> 00:23:01,360
of like, where am I going?

604
00:23:01,360 --> 00:23:03,600
Or where am I supposed to be going?

605
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,760
And so for me, it wasn't about

606
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,260
necessarily attaining a certain title.

607
00:23:07,260 --> 00:23:08,960
It wasn't necessarily about, you know,

608
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:12,520
attaining a certain goal or crushing a certain goal.

609
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,640
It was about who do I wanna become, right?

610
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,520
Who do I wanna be for people and for myself?

611
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:21,020
And the answer to that was actually, I am an encourager.

612
00:23:21,020 --> 00:23:23,960
And I love being able to be an encourager,

613
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,320
meaning that anybody that comes across, you know,

614
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,480
my day, anybody that comes across,

615
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,800
whether it's through a text, through a phone call,

616
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,360
through this podcast that we're doing,

617
00:23:34,360 --> 00:23:37,920
how can I leave people better off encouraged, right?

618
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,080
Rather than like when they first began.

619
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,340
And I've learned that again, as I try my best

620
00:23:43,340 --> 00:23:45,560
to be able to live more authentically like that,

621
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:46,720
that it does happen, right?

622
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,260
People come back to me afterwards and they tell me like,

623
00:23:49,260 --> 00:23:50,320
it's like touching a battery.

624
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,400
Like, I feel so charged, you know, I love your energy.

625
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,400
And I'm like, well, it's only because

626
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:55,960
I'm doing what I want to be doing.

627
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:59,280
I'm doing what I believe I was made to do, right?

628
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,100
So now I want you to be able to explore that as well.

629
00:24:02,100 --> 00:24:03,960
And it's not gonna happen overnight.

630
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:05,920
And it may not even happen, you know,

631
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:07,800
right away when you first think about it,

632
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:09,120
but it takes intentionality

633
00:24:09,120 --> 00:24:11,800
to be able to essentially discover that.

634
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:13,840
It does a lot.

635
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,360
Encourager, man, like that's one of those elements

636
00:24:17,360 --> 00:24:21,240
that sometimes according to our strengths

637
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,160
and talents, gifts, responsibilities,

638
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:29,160
we can feel envious of other people's callings too.

639
00:24:29,180 --> 00:24:32,380
And in this case I am, you know, it's one of those where,

640
00:24:32,380 --> 00:24:36,980
and I can practice that sometimes, but I am a healer.

641
00:24:36,980 --> 00:24:38,300
Oh, I love that.

642
00:24:38,300 --> 00:24:39,580
That's me man, I'm a healer.

643
00:24:39,580 --> 00:24:41,460
And you have a healing voice.

644
00:24:41,460 --> 00:24:42,280
What was that?

645
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,180
I said, you have a healing voice.

646
00:24:44,180 --> 00:24:45,580
I believe that.

647
00:24:45,580 --> 00:24:48,960
And I'm a protector as well.

648
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:50,540
So prior to being an encourager,

649
00:24:50,540 --> 00:24:53,540
it doesn't make my calling better than yours or vice versa.

650
00:24:53,540 --> 00:24:54,380
It just is.

651
00:24:54,380 --> 00:24:57,460
And that means that I, it's like the water project.

652
00:24:57,460 --> 00:24:59,260
I know a lot of people who have told me like,

653
00:24:59,260 --> 00:25:01,100
Jackson, like that's too dark, it's too deep.

654
00:25:01,100 --> 00:25:02,380
You know, like, don't go into that.

655
00:25:02,380 --> 00:25:03,220
And I get it.

656
00:25:03,220 --> 00:25:05,860
Like they're in that, they're in the enthusiasm category.

657
00:25:05,860 --> 00:25:08,380
They like to celebrate and think about all sunshine roses.

658
00:25:08,380 --> 00:25:09,580
That's fine.

659
00:25:09,580 --> 00:25:13,260
But I mean, I am willing to mourn of those who mourn.

660
00:25:13,260 --> 00:25:15,660
I mean, oh, and I'm also as a protector,

661
00:25:15,660 --> 00:25:18,740
like, you know, I'm kind of my sword if I need to.

662
00:25:18,740 --> 00:25:19,580
Oh, absolutely.

663
00:25:19,580 --> 00:25:21,460
I will protect people from situations.

664
00:25:21,460 --> 00:25:25,500
And that's, so this encourager factor,

665
00:25:25,500 --> 00:25:29,140
I'm glad you put it on my radar because it's something that

666
00:25:29,140 --> 00:25:30,860
as a healer and protector,

667
00:25:30,860 --> 00:25:34,620
sometimes I find myself forgetting

668
00:25:34,620 --> 00:25:36,820
that I'm also supposed to be encouraging people.

669
00:25:36,820 --> 00:25:39,380
I mean, I don't, I'm not here to scare people

670
00:25:39,380 --> 00:25:41,140
in order to box them in.

671
00:25:41,140 --> 00:25:42,720
I'm not doing a good job of protecting

672
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,460
or helping people heal.

673
00:25:44,460 --> 00:25:48,260
If I don't remember how important encouragement is.

674
00:25:48,260 --> 00:25:49,100
That's right.

675
00:25:49,100 --> 00:25:50,140
Enthusiasm, et cetera.

676
00:25:50,140 --> 00:25:52,420
And the thing about, again, you know,

677
00:25:52,420 --> 00:25:53,880
even what you mentioned right now, for example,

678
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,940
being a protector and a healer, right?

679
00:25:55,940 --> 00:25:58,280
It's one of those things that will continue to evolve

680
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,900
as you evolve, as you continue to grow.

681
00:26:00,900 --> 00:26:04,140
So I love what you said, you know, right now, right?

682
00:26:04,140 --> 00:26:06,060
That's such an important thing to add at the end of it

683
00:26:06,060 --> 00:26:09,660
because you can be a protector in one season of your life,

684
00:26:09,660 --> 00:26:12,780
but then the next, let's say, after you've continued to,

685
00:26:12,780 --> 00:26:15,940
you know, grow and evolve and learn new things,

686
00:26:15,940 --> 00:26:18,660
now all of a sudden you are something else and that's okay.

687
00:26:18,660 --> 00:26:20,980
You're continually, you know,

688
00:26:20,980 --> 00:26:22,580
essentially supposed to be growing.

689
00:26:22,580 --> 00:26:23,780
You're supposed to be evolving

690
00:26:23,780 --> 00:26:25,540
into the next version of yourself.

691
00:26:25,540 --> 00:26:27,980
Dude, you said earlier, you said, where are you going?

692
00:26:27,980 --> 00:26:28,820
Right?

693
00:26:28,820 --> 00:26:31,020
That is something that plays into that effect.

694
00:26:31,020 --> 00:26:34,420
I always say as well, begin with the vision in mind, right?

695
00:26:34,420 --> 00:26:35,900
And so if you begin with that in mind,

696
00:26:35,900 --> 00:26:38,340
what you can see once you get there, like, you know,

697
00:26:38,340 --> 00:26:39,460
it evolves.

698
00:26:39,460 --> 00:26:42,400
And so last night I was walking,

699
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,060
listening to an audio tape outside and it was super dark

700
00:26:45,060 --> 00:26:46,860
because of the change in times and all that.

701
00:26:46,860 --> 00:26:47,700
Right.

702
00:26:47,700 --> 00:26:49,180
And then I was walking somewhere I'm going to go.

703
00:26:49,180 --> 00:26:51,020
And then I remembered the snake I stepped on

704
00:26:51,020 --> 00:26:53,020
because I live in a wildlife preserve.

705
00:26:53,020 --> 00:26:56,580
And I'm like, I should go to the treadmill.

706
00:26:56,580 --> 00:26:58,780
You know, I should go to the gym instead

707
00:26:58,780 --> 00:27:01,620
because who knows what's around that dark corner right now.

708
00:27:01,620 --> 00:27:04,300
And my vision changed my perspective.

709
00:27:04,300 --> 00:27:06,600
And the same thing happens at times in life too.

710
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,500
And sometimes we're caught off guard by it.

711
00:27:08,500 --> 00:27:11,460
And then, you know, enjoy the journey.

712
00:27:11,460 --> 00:27:13,340
That would be my invitation is like,

713
00:27:13,340 --> 00:27:15,300
know that you're in good hands, you'll be fine.

714
00:27:15,300 --> 00:27:16,140
Let's figure it out.

715
00:27:16,140 --> 00:27:19,020
But let's dive to that darker side for a minute.

716
00:27:19,020 --> 00:27:22,100
What has been your worst business

717
00:27:22,100 --> 00:27:23,860
or leadership experience ever?

718
00:27:24,780 --> 00:27:27,320
The worst business experience actually,

719
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,660
it almost took me out of the game of entrepreneurship

720
00:27:29,660 --> 00:27:30,500
altogether.

721
00:27:30,500 --> 00:27:31,320
Right.

722
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,180
I mean, again, I mean, obviously again,

723
00:27:33,180 --> 00:27:35,580
as you begin to live your life more authentically

724
00:27:35,580 --> 00:27:39,620
and you want to be able to expand your potential reach

725
00:27:39,620 --> 00:27:42,300
or the kind of like the vision that you have becomes grander

726
00:27:42,300 --> 00:27:44,620
and you need help along the way.

727
00:27:44,620 --> 00:27:45,460
Right.

728
00:27:45,460 --> 00:27:46,700
And collaboration is so important.

729
00:27:46,700 --> 00:27:48,900
So I love the fact that obviously, you know,

730
00:27:48,900 --> 00:27:51,100
I have you in my corner and there's always, you know,

731
00:27:51,100 --> 00:27:52,600
tons of room to collaborate on all kinds

732
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:53,940
of different things available.

733
00:27:53,940 --> 00:27:55,980
So collaboration becomes a really important aspect

734
00:27:55,980 --> 00:27:58,480
for things, because just like what you said earlier,

735
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,320
you have certain gifts, I have certain gifts, right?

736
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,900
And being able to share those gifts is what makes a lot

737
00:28:02,900 --> 00:28:04,620
of these visions come to life.

738
00:28:04,620 --> 00:28:08,260
And so collaboration, what ended up happening was that

739
00:28:08,260 --> 00:28:12,540
being able to get the people in my corner essentially

740
00:28:12,540 --> 00:28:15,020
at that time, I didn't really know what that could look like.

741
00:28:15,020 --> 00:28:17,060
And so that's another really important aspect

742
00:28:17,060 --> 00:28:18,540
of being able to collaborate.

743
00:28:18,540 --> 00:28:20,460
Figure out what kind of people you want to be able

744
00:28:20,460 --> 00:28:23,500
to be in your corner, not just potentially look at, again,

745
00:28:23,500 --> 00:28:26,380
the skills that they bring or potentially the capital

746
00:28:26,380 --> 00:28:29,180
that they have or the accolades that they've collected,

747
00:28:29,180 --> 00:28:30,580
like look at their character, right?

748
00:28:30,580 --> 00:28:31,900
Look at their integrity.

749
00:28:31,900 --> 00:28:33,820
And so at that time, you know,

750
00:28:33,820 --> 00:28:36,660
when this business opportunity just went south

751
00:28:36,660 --> 00:28:38,240
and the partners essentially ended up fighting

752
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,180
amongst themselves, it was one of those things

753
00:28:40,180 --> 00:28:43,260
that it was so bad that it almost like left such a bad taste

754
00:28:43,260 --> 00:28:44,260
in my mouth and I said, you know,

755
00:28:44,260 --> 00:28:47,100
I don't even know if I want to be able to still essentially,

756
00:28:47,100 --> 00:28:48,220
you know, be an entrepreneur.

757
00:28:48,220 --> 00:28:50,800
I want to be able to essentially just put my head down now

758
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,740
and do something else that's going to take up a lot

759
00:28:52,740 --> 00:28:55,080
of my time and I don't know if this is worth it.

760
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:56,180
And I think at some point,

761
00:28:56,180 --> 00:28:58,380
every single person has been there where, you know what?

762
00:28:58,380 --> 00:29:01,480
You almost call it quits, but then something inside you says,

763
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,260
no, it's not time yet, you know, and you shouldn't do it.

764
00:29:04,260 --> 00:29:06,900
And thankfully, again, I was surrounded

765
00:29:06,900 --> 00:29:08,820
by another whole community of people

766
00:29:08,820 --> 00:29:10,700
that supported me, thankfully, right?

767
00:29:10,700 --> 00:29:12,960
So even though there was people that were not good,

768
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,600
there was plenty of other people that were good for my life.

769
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,420
And because of that, they essentially said, no, you know,

770
00:29:18,420 --> 00:29:20,420
this is only one of those things that happens in life.

771
00:29:20,420 --> 00:29:23,180
It can happen sometimes multiple times, but that's not,

772
00:29:23,180 --> 00:29:25,260
that doesn't mean that it's going to take you out

773
00:29:25,260 --> 00:29:26,780
and you shouldn't let it take you out.

774
00:29:26,780 --> 00:29:29,740
So just adapt and overcome, follow your own advice

775
00:29:29,740 --> 00:29:31,420
and basically continue moving forward.

776
00:29:31,420 --> 00:29:35,300
And so it was one of those things that gave me a whole lot

777
00:29:35,300 --> 00:29:37,540
of insight as to, you know, what kind of people I want

778
00:29:37,540 --> 00:29:39,780
surrounding me and not to pay attention

779
00:29:39,780 --> 00:29:42,380
to the external details that normally most people pay

780
00:29:42,380 --> 00:29:43,460
attention to.

781
00:29:43,460 --> 00:29:46,040
And so to start looking within essentially,

782
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,480
not only within myself, but also with the people

783
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,420
that I ended up working with again,

784
00:29:50,420 --> 00:29:52,380
because that becomes more important than anything else.

785
00:29:52,380 --> 00:29:54,780
Ultimately, your character and your integrity

786
00:29:54,780 --> 00:29:56,280
are going to say a lot more about you

787
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,680
and the person that you are than anything else

788
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,700
you may have available at that point.

789
00:30:00,700 --> 00:30:02,820
Dude, if somebody's listening, if you're,

790
00:30:02,820 --> 00:30:05,260
sorry, I keep saying dude, that's just kind of my thing.

791
00:30:05,260 --> 00:30:06,100
I love it.

792
00:30:06,100 --> 00:30:08,480
The, those who are listening in,

793
00:30:09,620 --> 00:30:10,740
if you're listening to this,

794
00:30:10,740 --> 00:30:14,100
it's because you have an extreme passion in your heart.

795
00:30:14,100 --> 00:30:16,380
You're different than people in the world.

796
00:30:16,380 --> 00:30:20,100
You want relationships at a bigger level

797
00:30:20,100 --> 00:30:21,620
than most people do.

798
00:30:21,620 --> 00:30:24,100
There's great relationship advice out there

799
00:30:24,100 --> 00:30:25,820
that you just reminded me of.

800
00:30:25,820 --> 00:30:29,420
And that's that if you want to have no conflict

801
00:30:29,420 --> 00:30:32,620
in your relationships, don't talk about politics.

802
00:30:32,620 --> 00:30:34,740
Don't talk about religion, you know,

803
00:30:34,740 --> 00:30:37,420
and don't talk about sports, you know,

804
00:30:37,420 --> 00:30:39,500
and that's a great way to protect your relationship.

805
00:30:39,500 --> 00:30:41,660
But it's also a great way to make sure you limit

806
00:30:41,660 --> 00:30:44,300
your relationship completely, right?

807
00:30:44,300 --> 00:30:46,940
The same is true with entrepreneurship.

808
00:30:46,940 --> 00:30:51,020
Divorces and businesses going bad,

809
00:30:51,020 --> 00:30:54,060
they are very, very similar realities

810
00:30:54,060 --> 00:30:56,740
and they hurt, they're painful, right?

811
00:30:56,740 --> 00:31:00,100
But in order to accept great rewards,

812
00:31:00,100 --> 00:31:02,340
you have to be willing to take great risks.

813
00:31:02,340 --> 00:31:05,820
And sometimes it's a seasonal reality too.

814
00:31:05,820 --> 00:31:08,260
So I appreciate you bringing that up.

815
00:31:08,260 --> 00:31:10,180
It may knock you out of the game for a little bit.

816
00:31:10,180 --> 00:31:13,460
You may have to take a season to recover from an experience,

817
00:31:13,460 --> 00:31:15,700
but you'll be the one who knows that.

818
00:31:15,700 --> 00:31:18,340
And just know that you're not weird, you know,

819
00:31:18,340 --> 00:31:20,180
or alone in that reality.

820
00:31:20,180 --> 00:31:21,940
There are plenty of people out there

821
00:31:21,940 --> 00:31:24,700
who are striving to create those types of relationships.

822
00:31:24,700 --> 00:31:28,780
But if you're looking to create exceptional relationships,

823
00:31:28,780 --> 00:31:31,140
you have to look for people who are also looking

824
00:31:31,140 --> 00:31:33,460
for exceptional results in their life.

825
00:31:33,460 --> 00:31:34,860
Absolutely.

826
00:31:34,860 --> 00:31:36,380
Let's talk about the best then.

827
00:31:36,380 --> 00:31:37,220
Let's go there.

828
00:31:37,220 --> 00:31:40,540
So what do the best experiences in business look like for you?

829
00:31:40,540 --> 00:31:44,500
What's one tangible one that you've passed through already?

830
00:31:44,500 --> 00:31:45,700
Complete alignment.

831
00:31:45,700 --> 00:31:47,460
I mean, just being able to, you know,

832
00:31:47,460 --> 00:31:50,060
find that alignment with someone else

833
00:31:51,260 --> 00:31:53,260
that makes it feel like, okay,

834
00:31:53,260 --> 00:31:54,860
this person finally sees me, right?

835
00:31:54,860 --> 00:31:57,820
They finally communicate the way I like to communicate.

836
00:31:57,820 --> 00:32:00,340
They finally understand the things that I'm talking about.

837
00:32:00,340 --> 00:32:03,140
They finally feel like we're making progress

838
00:32:03,140 --> 00:32:04,860
without even trying, right?

839
00:32:04,860 --> 00:32:06,820
There's something that happens when you finally find

840
00:32:06,820 --> 00:32:08,220
this kind of individual in your life

841
00:32:08,220 --> 00:32:10,140
to be able to do business with that,

842
00:32:10,140 --> 00:32:11,780
and ultimately life with, right?

843
00:32:11,780 --> 00:32:13,380
I mean, just being able to do that.

844
00:32:13,380 --> 00:32:15,180
But alignment is such an important thing.

845
00:32:15,180 --> 00:32:17,380
And by alignment, I say like,

846
00:32:17,380 --> 00:32:19,380
it's a number of multiple things that happens,

847
00:32:19,380 --> 00:32:21,020
but ultimately comes down to like,

848
00:32:21,020 --> 00:32:23,100
how good are we communicating with each other, right?

849
00:32:23,100 --> 00:32:27,300
How are we able to do life together better than apart?

850
00:32:27,300 --> 00:32:29,300
And so by being able to have that, you know,

851
00:32:29,300 --> 00:32:31,180
in my life was such a blessing, right?

852
00:32:31,180 --> 00:32:33,900
Being able to finally experience what it feels like

853
00:32:33,900 --> 00:32:35,980
to find alignment in my life,

854
00:32:35,980 --> 00:32:37,460
which again, opened up the door

855
00:32:37,460 --> 00:32:38,940
to a whole lot of other opportunities,

856
00:32:38,940 --> 00:32:40,980
opened up the door to a whole lot of other relationships

857
00:32:40,980 --> 00:32:42,460
that I was able to form,

858
00:32:42,460 --> 00:32:44,060
because it was one of those things that,

859
00:32:44,060 --> 00:32:47,900
like I said earlier in the conversation,

860
00:32:47,900 --> 00:32:49,780
energetically, when you come online,

861
00:32:49,780 --> 00:32:51,420
you start attracting other people

862
00:32:51,420 --> 00:32:52,340
that are essentially online,

863
00:32:52,340 --> 00:32:54,900
because it's almost like you enter a next level

864
00:32:54,900 --> 00:32:56,500
of where you want to be.

865
00:32:56,500 --> 00:32:57,380
And at this new level,

866
00:32:57,380 --> 00:32:59,100
you begin talking to the people that are at that

867
00:32:59,100 --> 00:33:00,500
and have been at that level,

868
00:33:00,500 --> 00:33:02,740
just like, you know, that's just kind of how we are.

869
00:33:02,740 --> 00:33:04,140
You know, we're just kind of there.

870
00:33:04,140 --> 00:33:06,060
We get to the next level and we find other people

871
00:33:06,060 --> 00:33:08,420
that are there and they're the goddess, you know,

872
00:33:08,420 --> 00:33:11,540
to see how we can get to the next level after that.

873
00:33:11,540 --> 00:33:12,660
Absolutely.

874
00:33:12,660 --> 00:33:15,260
Okay, so you talked about alignment.

875
00:33:15,260 --> 00:33:17,940
Who do you have this alignment with?

876
00:33:17,940 --> 00:33:20,180
Well, so I would say the last business partner

877
00:33:20,180 --> 00:33:22,380
that I was with in this last company,

878
00:33:22,380 --> 00:33:25,660
when I was in venture capital and private equity, right?

879
00:33:25,660 --> 00:33:27,700
I think the primary reason why there was so much alignment

880
00:33:27,700 --> 00:33:30,180
was not only in the way that we communicated,

881
00:33:30,180 --> 00:33:32,460
you know, our belief system, our core,

882
00:33:32,460 --> 00:33:35,300
again, our integrity, our attitude,

883
00:33:35,300 --> 00:33:37,500
but also the fact that he also served in the Marine Corps

884
00:33:37,500 --> 00:33:38,460
like I did.

885
00:33:38,460 --> 00:33:40,740
So we immediately had like a, you know,

886
00:33:40,740 --> 00:33:42,740
a bond from the start, because again,

887
00:33:42,740 --> 00:33:44,380
that's one of the things that I love about, you know,

888
00:33:44,380 --> 00:33:46,140
the military, especially the Marines,

889
00:33:46,140 --> 00:33:47,700
when it comes to my branch,

890
00:33:47,700 --> 00:33:49,420
just simply because you have a foundation

891
00:33:49,420 --> 00:33:51,860
that you get started, like you get started from this.

892
00:33:51,860 --> 00:33:54,140
And we know, I mean, in the Marine Corps, for example,

893
00:33:54,140 --> 00:33:56,820
we have this thing called core values.

894
00:33:56,820 --> 00:33:58,540
What are your core values, right?

895
00:33:58,540 --> 00:34:00,780
And in the Marine Corps, we say honor, courage, commitment.

896
00:34:00,780 --> 00:34:03,620
So immediately you start off with those three core values

897
00:34:03,620 --> 00:34:05,900
if, you know, you're calling yourself a Marine.

898
00:34:05,900 --> 00:34:07,860
And so by being able to essentially live out

899
00:34:07,860 --> 00:34:10,420
those core values, you know where somebody stands.

900
00:34:10,420 --> 00:34:12,380
And by being able to have an idea

901
00:34:12,380 --> 00:34:13,580
of what these core values are,

902
00:34:13,580 --> 00:34:15,580
it made the relationship that much better.

903
00:34:15,580 --> 00:34:16,740
And so because of that, I mean,

904
00:34:16,740 --> 00:34:19,260
we were able to develop not only an incredible friendship

905
00:34:19,260 --> 00:34:21,380
over the years, but, you know, again,

906
00:34:21,380 --> 00:34:23,020
the number of opportunities that were unlocked

907
00:34:23,020 --> 00:34:25,420
because of it, the different projects

908
00:34:25,420 --> 00:34:27,020
that we got a chance to work on, you know,

909
00:34:27,020 --> 00:34:29,420
the different places that I got to see

910
00:34:29,420 --> 00:34:31,340
and people that I got to meet.

911
00:34:31,340 --> 00:34:32,620
It was all just really incredible.

912
00:34:32,620 --> 00:34:36,540
And it all unlocked a new version of myself

913
00:34:36,540 --> 00:34:39,540
along with new skills, new opportunities,

914
00:34:39,540 --> 00:34:42,740
especially in the, again, in the raising capital industry.

915
00:34:43,620 --> 00:34:44,460
Well said, man.

916
00:34:44,460 --> 00:34:48,740
The, when it comes to the wisdom

917
00:34:48,740 --> 00:34:50,940
of unlocking a true life's calling,

918
00:34:52,340 --> 00:34:53,980
I would have never unlocked it

919
00:34:53,980 --> 00:34:56,260
if I had been focused on me.

920
00:34:56,260 --> 00:34:58,460
If I had been focused on my needs, my wants,

921
00:34:58,460 --> 00:35:01,220
my selfish desires.

922
00:35:01,220 --> 00:35:04,060
I'm a big believer that our true life calling comes

923
00:35:04,060 --> 00:35:07,020
when we began to look at how can we assist?

924
00:35:07,020 --> 00:35:09,860
How can we be able to help others in this world?

925
00:35:09,860 --> 00:35:12,700
And that alignment that you gained with that individual,

926
00:35:12,700 --> 00:35:16,500
it did, it came about because of a lot of the foundation

927
00:35:16,500 --> 00:35:18,260
was the fact that you already shared a foundation

928
00:35:18,260 --> 00:35:21,060
of core values that you both had committed to and understood

929
00:35:21,060 --> 00:35:22,140
and were practicing.

930
00:35:23,340 --> 00:35:25,740
In life, one of my greatest,

931
00:35:25,740 --> 00:35:27,580
I would say unfair advantages,

932
00:35:27,580 --> 00:35:29,460
and this can be for anybody who's listening,

933
00:35:29,460 --> 00:35:31,900
is my ability to adapt to the core values

934
00:35:31,900 --> 00:35:34,420
of the individual with which I'm serving with

935
00:35:34,420 --> 00:35:37,820
by respecting them enough to learn about what those are.

936
00:35:37,820 --> 00:35:41,260
So for instance, I'm gonna have a harder time

937
00:35:41,260 --> 00:35:43,780
initially connecting in a deep level

938
00:35:43,780 --> 00:35:46,180
with somebody who practices Taoism.

939
00:35:46,180 --> 00:35:48,740
Because I don't know any, I don't remember that class.

940
00:35:48,740 --> 00:35:50,900
I went to religion, a world religion class.

941
00:35:50,900 --> 00:35:52,620
I don't remember it, right?

942
00:35:52,620 --> 00:35:54,820
But if I'm gonna work with that person well,

943
00:35:54,820 --> 00:35:58,060
in the capacity of, I don't know, LinkedIn automation,

944
00:35:58,060 --> 00:36:00,340
something simple, right?

945
00:36:00,340 --> 00:36:02,340
We're not gonna have a depth to our communication

946
00:36:02,340 --> 00:36:04,620
and our commitment to each other unless I take the time

947
00:36:04,620 --> 00:36:06,220
to get to know their core values.

948
00:36:06,220 --> 00:36:08,460
And I can do that by then studying up,

949
00:36:08,460 --> 00:36:10,620
refreshing my memory on Taoism,

950
00:36:10,620 --> 00:36:12,940
and going several hours into it,

951
00:36:12,940 --> 00:36:14,620
or keeping it surface level.

952
00:36:14,620 --> 00:36:15,980
Whatever depth I go to though,

953
00:36:15,980 --> 00:36:18,900
is pretty much going to navigate and dictate

954
00:36:18,900 --> 00:36:21,420
how well my portion of committing myself

955
00:36:21,420 --> 00:36:23,180
to that relationship is.

956
00:36:23,180 --> 00:36:25,820
They also have to be willing to reciprocate

957
00:36:25,820 --> 00:36:30,340
in order for that relationship to gain a super depth,

958
00:36:30,340 --> 00:36:34,060
which then allows us to fulfill a deeper calling together.

959
00:36:34,060 --> 00:36:37,980
There definitely has to be a sense of mutual respect, right?

960
00:36:37,980 --> 00:36:39,780
I mean, that's what it comes down to.

961
00:36:39,780 --> 00:36:42,420
Yeah, respect and understanding.

962
00:36:42,420 --> 00:36:43,780
I mean, if you're gonna be working together.

963
00:36:43,780 --> 00:36:46,260
So that you can drive that without those.

964
00:36:46,260 --> 00:36:49,980
But what I found is I can't work very well

965
00:36:49,980 --> 00:36:53,980
with people who don't have core values clearly established.

966
00:36:55,060 --> 00:36:57,500
So if they don't have that shared background,

967
00:36:57,500 --> 00:37:02,020
I can't find it, then I have to be much more careful

968
00:37:02,020 --> 00:37:04,700
with that relationship because I don't know

969
00:37:04,700 --> 00:37:06,220
what's important to them.

970
00:37:07,500 --> 00:37:08,820
That's a hard place to be.

971
00:37:08,820 --> 00:37:09,860
So if you find yourself there

972
00:37:09,860 --> 00:37:12,020
not sharing your core values openly,

973
00:37:12,020 --> 00:37:14,580
know that it may be creating some constraints

974
00:37:14,580 --> 00:37:16,300
around your ability to connect

975
00:37:16,300 --> 00:37:18,820
and see how you can serve and help others.

976
00:37:18,820 --> 00:37:20,780
That would be my powerful lesson for the day.

977
00:37:20,780 --> 00:37:21,620
I love it.

978
00:37:21,620 --> 00:37:23,020
I wanna know yours.

979
00:37:23,020 --> 00:37:25,740
If this was the last thing you could share with us

980
00:37:25,740 --> 00:37:29,300
right now, ever, what's the lesson you would share

981
00:37:29,300 --> 00:37:31,860
with visionaries who can learn from your experience?

982
00:37:34,100 --> 00:37:35,740
You said something really important earlier

983
00:37:35,740 --> 00:37:38,060
that I wanna be able to kind of expand a little bit more.

984
00:37:38,060 --> 00:37:40,940
And this would be my ultimate message, right?

985
00:37:40,940 --> 00:37:43,900
You talked about, you don't have to be jealous of,

986
00:37:43,900 --> 00:37:47,220
let's say, my calling or my strengths or anything

987
00:37:47,220 --> 00:37:48,940
that I have as my gifts.

988
00:37:48,940 --> 00:37:50,940
And I think so many people forget that.

989
00:37:50,940 --> 00:37:53,380
One of the things that I've learned time and time again

990
00:37:53,380 --> 00:37:55,660
and it's now, I think, more solidified in my mind

991
00:37:55,660 --> 00:37:57,500
and my heart than ever before,

992
00:37:57,500 --> 00:37:59,340
is that this life that we're experiencing

993
00:37:59,340 --> 00:38:01,140
is meant to be very personal.

994
00:38:01,140 --> 00:38:03,220
It's meant to be a very personal journey,

995
00:38:03,220 --> 00:38:07,420
which means that, yeah, we can look for potentially

996
00:38:07,420 --> 00:38:10,580
motivation or inspiration to other people,

997
00:38:10,580 --> 00:38:14,700
but never in a sense of jealousy or desire

998
00:38:14,700 --> 00:38:16,940
to have what they have because, you know,

999
00:38:16,940 --> 00:38:19,380
because you have your very own gifts,

1000
00:38:19,380 --> 00:38:21,220
you have your very own strengths.

1001
00:38:21,220 --> 00:38:23,260
You just have to look, you know, to see what they are

1002
00:38:23,260 --> 00:38:25,860
and live your journey personally,

1003
00:38:25,860 --> 00:38:28,820
meaning that this came to me, you know,

1004
00:38:28,820 --> 00:38:30,900
it was kind of like, again, reminded, if you will,

1005
00:38:30,900 --> 00:38:34,460
or realigned with me not too long ago as I was climbing,

1006
00:38:34,460 --> 00:38:36,860
I was hiking up a mountain.

1007
00:38:36,860 --> 00:38:38,780
And as I was looking back,

1008
00:38:38,780 --> 00:38:39,940
I saw that there were a lot of people

1009
00:38:39,940 --> 00:38:41,220
that were kind of behind me.

1010
00:38:41,220 --> 00:38:42,220
And as I was looking forward,

1011
00:38:42,220 --> 00:38:44,260
I saw a lot of people that were in front of me.

1012
00:38:44,260 --> 00:38:46,660
And then as I was looking to myself, I said, you know,

1013
00:38:46,660 --> 00:38:48,740
I could very much want to be that person

1014
00:38:48,740 --> 00:38:50,340
that's all the way at the top almost, right?

1015
00:38:50,340 --> 00:38:53,500
Reaching the top, meaning they've trained hard,

1016
00:38:53,500 --> 00:38:55,580
maybe they've done this a lot of times,

1017
00:38:55,580 --> 00:38:57,620
or maybe they're just stronger than I am, right?

1018
00:38:57,620 --> 00:38:58,940
Or I could look back and say, okay,

1019
00:38:58,940 --> 00:39:00,780
look at all these people that are kind of falling behind,

1020
00:39:00,780 --> 00:39:02,980
like, you know, they haven't trained at all,

1021
00:39:02,980 --> 00:39:05,460
or maybe they're weaker or whatever other thoughts

1022
00:39:05,460 --> 00:39:07,300
one can have when it comes to that.

1023
00:39:07,300 --> 00:39:09,380
But instead, you know, I chose to say,

1024
00:39:09,380 --> 00:39:10,940
I'm exactly where I need to be, you know,

1025
00:39:10,940 --> 00:39:13,180
and those people are exactly where they need to be.

1026
00:39:13,180 --> 00:39:14,140
And that's life, you know,

1027
00:39:14,140 --> 00:39:15,380
some people are gonna be ahead of you,

1028
00:39:15,380 --> 00:39:18,180
some people are gonna be quote unquote behind you, right?

1029
00:39:18,180 --> 00:39:19,460
Which nobody really is, again,

1030
00:39:19,460 --> 00:39:21,060
we're all living our life

1031
00:39:21,060 --> 00:39:22,700
the way we're supposed to be living.

1032
00:39:22,700 --> 00:39:25,740
And so that's the thing that I want everybody to remember

1033
00:39:25,740 --> 00:39:28,460
or understand that we're exactly where we need to be.

1034
00:39:28,460 --> 00:39:32,180
And this life that we have, this journey that we're living,

1035
00:39:32,180 --> 00:39:34,420
it's meant to be a very personal journey.

1036
00:39:34,420 --> 00:39:35,980
And so we have to live it like that

1037
00:39:35,980 --> 00:39:37,540
and just be able to get inspiration

1038
00:39:37,540 --> 00:39:38,900
from the people around us.

1039
00:39:40,260 --> 00:39:43,220
In my life's darkest moment, Drazen,

1040
00:39:43,220 --> 00:39:45,500
that was the exact advice that I needed.

1041
00:39:46,940 --> 00:39:49,140
And you reminded me of it today.

1042
00:39:49,140 --> 00:39:50,780
That's, it's huge.

1043
00:39:51,620 --> 00:39:54,740
So if you're going through dark times or great times,

1044
00:39:54,740 --> 00:39:56,620
either one, this is an opportunity

1045
00:39:56,620 --> 00:39:58,820
to really frame around that concept

1046
00:39:58,820 --> 00:40:01,780
and just try to burn that into your memory,

1047
00:40:01,780 --> 00:40:05,100
that you're exactly where you need to be,

1048
00:40:05,100 --> 00:40:07,580
as scary or painful as that might be,

1049
00:40:07,580 --> 00:40:10,740
which is the case of where I was at that time.

1050
00:40:10,740 --> 00:40:13,580
But I also then had that revelation and knowledge

1051
00:40:13,580 --> 00:40:16,100
that that's where I needed to be and I was okay.

1052
00:40:16,100 --> 00:40:18,460
And it was perfect.

1053
00:40:18,460 --> 00:40:21,380
And I was in the hands of the being who takes care of me.

1054
00:40:21,380 --> 00:40:25,020
So very powerful.

1055
00:40:25,020 --> 00:40:27,140
I gotta breathe a little bit to not cry.

1056
00:40:27,140 --> 00:40:31,780
Variables, one of the things that we do as,

1057
00:40:34,340 --> 00:40:35,940
we do as humans,

1058
00:40:37,340 --> 00:40:40,340
we love to know that we know all the variables.

1059
00:40:40,340 --> 00:40:41,180
Right?

1060
00:40:41,180 --> 00:40:43,380
We love to know.

1061
00:40:43,380 --> 00:40:45,460
So, oh man, this is what I was supposed to learn

1062
00:40:45,460 --> 00:40:46,820
in that scenario.

1063
00:40:46,820 --> 00:40:50,300
Or, this is why it didn't work out for you.

1064
00:40:53,700 --> 00:40:55,820
That would be one of the pieces of wisdom too,

1065
00:40:55,820 --> 00:40:59,020
that's come since that realization is like,

1066
00:40:59,020 --> 00:41:01,860
nah, I don't understand all the variables.

1067
00:41:01,860 --> 00:41:05,100
I understand some and I think,

1068
00:41:05,100 --> 00:41:07,740
and those helped me move forward with more confidence,

1069
00:41:07,740 --> 00:41:10,620
but I have an ultimate confidence in knowing that

1070
00:41:10,620 --> 00:41:12,860
I don't control all the variables.

1071
00:41:12,860 --> 00:41:15,460
I'm just part of the experience.

1072
00:41:15,460 --> 00:41:19,020
And we get to have the experience to learn from.

1073
00:41:19,020 --> 00:41:21,620
So with that said, all right,

1074
00:41:21,620 --> 00:41:24,140
exploring wisdom to unlock your true life's calling.

1075
00:41:24,140 --> 00:41:25,460
What else do you wanna talk about?

1076
00:41:25,460 --> 00:41:28,620
We got five, 10 minutes, somewhere in between there.

1077
00:41:28,620 --> 00:41:31,140
I'd love to just give you the microphone and say,

1078
00:41:31,140 --> 00:41:33,740
the show is yours, where do you wanna go with this?

1079
00:41:33,740 --> 00:41:36,420
Hmm, there's so many things that,

1080
00:41:36,420 --> 00:41:41,220
there's so many things that I love talking about,

1081
00:41:41,220 --> 00:41:43,380
but I think in the last five minutes,

1082
00:41:43,380 --> 00:41:45,300
the main thing that I would say is,

1083
00:41:45,300 --> 00:41:48,380
the greatest asset that I've had in my life

1084
00:41:48,380 --> 00:41:51,860
when it comes to being able to become who I am today

1085
00:41:51,860 --> 00:41:56,660
and gain the insight or knowledge or wisdom ultimately

1086
00:41:56,660 --> 00:42:00,020
that got me to where I am, is find mentorship.

1087
00:42:00,020 --> 00:42:02,220
Find people that want to be able to share with you

1088
00:42:02,220 --> 00:42:04,740
their life and their wisdom and their knowledge.

1089
00:42:04,740 --> 00:42:07,660
There is an unlimited resource available

1090
00:42:07,660 --> 00:42:09,420
when it comes to that.

1091
00:42:09,420 --> 00:42:13,100
All that we need to be is the open and willing receptacle

1092
00:42:13,100 --> 00:42:14,740
of that knowledge and wisdom.

1093
00:42:14,740 --> 00:42:17,820
And that's the thing that most mentors are looking for.

1094
00:42:17,820 --> 00:42:20,500
There's tons of people that wanna be able to mentor you

1095
00:42:20,500 --> 00:42:23,580
as an individual, except there isn't enough people

1096
00:42:23,580 --> 00:42:24,580
that want to be mentored.

1097
00:42:24,580 --> 00:42:26,980
And the people that do say they wanna be mentored,

1098
00:42:26,980 --> 00:42:28,860
they usually fail at the follow through

1099
00:42:28,860 --> 00:42:30,500
when it comes to being able to get mentored.

1100
00:42:30,500 --> 00:42:35,500
And that's one of those things that it hurts to know,

1101
00:42:35,540 --> 00:42:36,940
but so many people are doing it, right?

1102
00:42:36,940 --> 00:42:38,740
I mean, so many people say that,

1103
00:42:38,740 --> 00:42:40,540
I love to be able to get mentorship.

1104
00:42:40,540 --> 00:42:44,060
I wanna be able to find the people that can help me out.

1105
00:42:44,060 --> 00:42:46,380
Well, become that person that can be helped

1106
00:42:46,380 --> 00:42:48,420
by the people that want to help you out.

1107
00:42:48,420 --> 00:42:50,140
And so that's one of those things that I've learned

1108
00:42:50,140 --> 00:42:52,740
that mentorship has shaped my life in ways

1109
00:42:52,740 --> 00:42:54,300
that I can't even begin to comprehend.

1110
00:42:54,300 --> 00:42:57,740
And I don't think that I ever really will be able to,

1111
00:42:57,740 --> 00:43:00,740
but I've gotten to a point where I value the mentors

1112
00:43:00,740 --> 00:43:02,460
that I've had in my life and I've had many

1113
00:43:02,460 --> 00:43:04,620
and I still have many at this point.

1114
00:43:04,620 --> 00:43:06,300
And I think that's like one of the best things

1115
00:43:06,300 --> 00:43:09,180
that I could have ever done and continue to do.

1116
00:43:09,180 --> 00:43:13,060
Just cultivate relationships, find mentorship,

1117
00:43:13,060 --> 00:43:15,060
find people that wanna be able to essentially

1118
00:43:15,060 --> 00:43:17,740
share their wisdom with you, and then just be open to it.

1119
00:43:17,740 --> 00:43:20,780
But also be somebody that follows through with your word,

1120
00:43:20,780 --> 00:43:24,220
meaning it's not hard to be a mentee.

1121
00:43:24,220 --> 00:43:26,780
If you say you're gonna do something, do it,

1122
00:43:26,780 --> 00:43:29,020
and then do it as quickly as possible, right?

1123
00:43:29,020 --> 00:43:30,980
If you said you're gonna be on time, be on time.

1124
00:43:30,980 --> 00:43:33,900
I mean, it's literally something so simple sometimes

1125
00:43:33,900 --> 00:43:35,380
that can make an impact in your life

1126
00:43:35,380 --> 00:43:37,300
that can make the difference.

1127
00:43:37,300 --> 00:43:39,700
I'll add, or own it if you don't.

1128
00:43:39,700 --> 00:43:40,540
That's right.

1129
00:43:40,540 --> 00:43:41,780
Don't run and hide from it.

1130
00:43:41,780 --> 00:43:43,100
No, no excuses.

1131
00:43:43,100 --> 00:43:44,540
We all fail.

1132
00:43:44,540 --> 00:43:45,820
We all fail.

1133
00:43:45,820 --> 00:43:46,660
Exactly.

1134
00:43:46,660 --> 00:43:48,220
Stop letting that defeat you

1135
00:43:48,220 --> 00:43:51,700
because you're then imposing your own progress.

1136
00:43:51,700 --> 00:43:52,540
I love it.

1137
00:43:52,540 --> 00:43:54,820
This could be viewed as one of the most discouraging

1138
00:43:54,820 --> 00:43:57,540
statements of all time for the encourager.

1139
00:43:57,540 --> 00:44:00,500
But I think this is one of the most encouraging statements

1140
00:44:00,500 --> 00:44:01,340
of all time.

1141
00:44:01,340 --> 00:44:02,980
The one you said that there aren't enough people

1142
00:44:02,980 --> 00:44:06,980
who want to be mentored is a call to arms.

1143
00:44:06,980 --> 00:44:10,180
That's a call to action of, well, if that's you,

1144
00:44:10,180 --> 00:44:11,660
if you've put that vibe up,

1145
00:44:13,140 --> 00:44:16,180
Drazen, they're not the first person he's ever talked to,

1146
00:44:16,180 --> 00:44:17,100
nor me.

1147
00:44:17,100 --> 00:44:18,700
I've talked to thousands and thousands

1148
00:44:18,700 --> 00:44:21,260
and thousands of people, and there's so much truth

1149
00:44:21,260 --> 00:44:22,780
in what you said.

1150
00:44:22,780 --> 00:44:24,220
There aren't.

1151
00:44:24,220 --> 00:44:28,300
And you say you want it, but then you don't do it.

1152
00:44:28,300 --> 00:44:32,260
And then later on, when somebody follows up to find out,

1153
00:44:32,260 --> 00:44:33,780
hey, you're doing okay, that you do well,

1154
00:44:33,780 --> 00:44:36,580
and you freak out and panic and get mad at them,

1155
00:44:36,580 --> 00:44:39,220
they're the ones who caused the problem.

1156
00:44:39,220 --> 00:44:43,220
You've basically shown that you are a person

1157
00:44:43,220 --> 00:44:45,620
who does not want to be mentored,

1158
00:44:45,620 --> 00:44:49,060
who's not willing to take it.

1159
00:44:49,060 --> 00:44:50,220
That's right.

1160
00:44:50,220 --> 00:44:53,300
Difficult, difficult truth to sometimes deal with,

1161
00:44:53,300 --> 00:44:56,540
but I appreciate you said that, not me.

1162
00:44:57,700 --> 00:44:59,180
Now, I'll quote you often though,

1163
00:44:59,180 --> 00:45:01,260
because I'll say I stand with Drazen on this.

1164
00:45:01,260 --> 00:45:02,620
You know what I mean?

1165
00:45:02,620 --> 00:45:04,940
Well said, man, that's awesome.

1166
00:45:04,940 --> 00:45:05,900
So let's see here.

1167
00:45:07,740 --> 00:45:08,580
There was something else,

1168
00:45:08,580 --> 00:45:10,020
oh, there's something else that you sparked,

1169
00:45:10,020 --> 00:45:12,540
and it was about those business partnerships.

1170
00:45:12,540 --> 00:45:13,820
And I wanted to circle back to it

1171
00:45:13,820 --> 00:45:14,780
because it just reminded me

1172
00:45:14,780 --> 00:45:17,420
of some extremely powerful relationships.

1173
00:45:17,420 --> 00:45:20,700
And again, if you're going through partnerships,

1174
00:45:20,700 --> 00:45:23,340
and your life's calling has tied you to somebody,

1175
00:45:23,340 --> 00:45:25,620
it's one of the best feelings in the world,

1176
00:45:25,620 --> 00:45:27,900
and it becomes one of the greatest heartaches

1177
00:45:27,900 --> 00:45:30,220
when it doesn't work out, two at times,

1178
00:45:30,220 --> 00:45:32,460
whether it's a marriage or a business partnership.

1179
00:45:32,460 --> 00:45:35,300
And I wanna highlight a couple of ones

1180
00:45:35,300 --> 00:45:38,260
that mean so much to me right now.

1181
00:45:38,260 --> 00:45:40,100
If you're okay with that, it's your show.

1182
00:45:40,100 --> 00:45:40,940
I don't wanna steal a mic,

1183
00:45:40,940 --> 00:45:43,260
but it just really, really hit me hard.

1184
00:45:43,260 --> 00:45:45,900
One is Cynthia, who's helping us

1185
00:45:45,900 --> 00:45:48,220
with the backgrounds on the show.

1186
00:45:48,220 --> 00:45:52,180
She has been so good about supporting me and helping me

1187
00:45:52,180 --> 00:45:53,180
and being there for me

1188
00:45:53,180 --> 00:45:55,100
during our ups and downs of business,

1189
00:45:55,100 --> 00:45:59,900
and understanding, being willing to understand who I am

1190
00:45:59,900 --> 00:46:02,380
and understand how hard it is,

1191
00:46:02,380 --> 00:46:04,940
what we go through to build what we're building.

1192
00:46:04,940 --> 00:46:07,540
Two is Dr. Todd Snyder,

1193
00:46:07,540 --> 00:46:08,860
who's one of our silent investors

1194
00:46:08,860 --> 00:46:10,580
who started this business with me

1195
00:46:10,580 --> 00:46:12,620
as a 50-50 business partner.

1196
00:46:12,620 --> 00:46:15,220
And when we came to that conclusion to work together

1197
00:46:15,220 --> 00:46:16,980
and decided to move forward,

1198
00:46:16,980 --> 00:46:19,100
we had met each other in person,

1199
00:46:19,100 --> 00:46:21,580
we had crossed all of our T's out of our eyes.

1200
00:46:21,580 --> 00:46:24,020
He's extremely thorough with what he does.

1201
00:46:24,020 --> 00:46:25,940
I'm extremely thorough in what I do,

1202
00:46:25,940 --> 00:46:27,820
and I think he's extremely thorough in what he does.

1203
00:46:27,820 --> 00:46:28,660
Yeah, yeah, definitely.

1204
00:46:28,660 --> 00:46:29,900
I feel like, my goodness.

1205
00:46:29,900 --> 00:46:31,500
Oh, man, it was awesome.

1206
00:46:31,500 --> 00:46:34,020
And it was fun because we were going back and forth

1207
00:46:34,020 --> 00:46:35,940
on our negotiations.

1208
00:46:35,940 --> 00:46:40,940
And I've never not worn somebody out with that process.

1209
00:46:40,980 --> 00:46:42,940
Every single time, we've got a finish line

1210
00:46:42,940 --> 00:46:43,940
and they're like dragging.

1211
00:46:43,940 --> 00:46:45,700
I'm like, oh my gosh.

1212
00:46:45,700 --> 00:46:47,980
Again, we're not done with this yet.

1213
00:46:49,340 --> 00:46:51,580
We had such a brotherhood build over that

1214
00:46:51,580 --> 00:46:53,060
that his final statement to me was,

1215
00:46:53,060 --> 00:46:55,300
Jackson, if we're gonna do this,

1216
00:46:55,300 --> 00:46:57,380
we're gonna do this as brothers.

1217
00:46:57,380 --> 00:46:58,220
Do you understand that?

1218
00:46:58,220 --> 00:46:59,060
Do you get that?

1219
00:46:59,060 --> 00:47:02,020
And I was like, man, that's the way he told me.

1220
00:47:02,020 --> 00:47:02,860
He said, do I understand that?

1221
00:47:02,860 --> 00:47:03,700
Do I get that, Jackson?

1222
00:47:03,700 --> 00:47:05,540
And I was like, yes, dude.

1223
00:47:05,540 --> 00:47:07,500
I was like, that's exactly what I want.

1224
00:47:07,500 --> 00:47:09,820
That's exactly what I'm looking for.

1225
00:47:09,820 --> 00:47:13,660
When it came time to make some adjustments

1226
00:47:13,660 --> 00:47:15,660
for the company's sake, for his life,

1227
00:47:15,660 --> 00:47:18,300
he ended up giving me back the company.

1228
00:47:19,380 --> 00:47:20,740
Well, giving it to me.

1229
00:47:20,740 --> 00:47:24,260
And then I said, no, like, you know,

1230
00:47:24,260 --> 00:47:26,900
like you at least need to keep 5% of this.

1231
00:47:26,900 --> 00:47:28,460
You know, like you helped me build this.

1232
00:47:28,460 --> 00:47:30,300
And that's fine if you're busy,

1233
00:47:30,300 --> 00:47:31,980
you got other things that you need to focus on right now.

1234
00:47:31,980 --> 00:47:33,020
I get that.

1235
00:47:33,020 --> 00:47:35,580
But the honor that existed between our relationship is so,

1236
00:47:35,580 --> 00:47:37,300
we just caught up last week.

1237
00:47:37,300 --> 00:47:40,500
You know, again, we're always there for each other

1238
00:47:40,500 --> 00:47:44,380
if we need each other and we don't need each other.

1239
00:47:44,380 --> 00:47:47,940
But we have this bond that I don't think

1240
00:47:47,940 --> 00:47:49,660
is ever going to be broken.

1241
00:47:49,660 --> 00:47:52,060
It could be, but I don't think it will be.

1242
00:47:52,060 --> 00:47:54,020
Then there's Dean Forbes.

1243
00:47:54,020 --> 00:47:55,860
And he's the last one I'll mention on this.

1244
00:47:55,860 --> 00:47:59,260
Dean Forbes then came in later as a 50-50 partner.

1245
00:47:59,260 --> 00:48:01,580
And oh man, we had such a disaster

1246
00:48:01,580 --> 00:48:03,500
of an experience together.

1247
00:48:03,500 --> 00:48:05,860
And Dean would tell you the same thing.

1248
00:48:05,860 --> 00:48:08,900
And we went through one of the roughest patches

1249
00:48:08,900 --> 00:48:12,700
and we had so many things come against us in this process.

1250
00:48:12,700 --> 00:48:14,660
But when we decided it was time like, hey,

1251
00:48:14,660 --> 00:48:18,100
we know let's move on from this.

1252
00:48:18,100 --> 00:48:20,940
Once again, he gave me back the equity in my company,

1253
00:48:20,940 --> 00:48:23,260
I gave him back the equity in his company.

1254
00:48:23,260 --> 00:48:25,260
He is a brother and will be for life.

1255
00:48:25,260 --> 00:48:27,900
We have no association with each other's brands,

1256
00:48:27,900 --> 00:48:32,580
but I can speak wholeheartedly to the ethics of the man

1257
00:48:32,580 --> 00:48:34,500
and to what he's able to accomplish

1258
00:48:34,500 --> 00:48:35,940
from a professional setting.

1259
00:48:35,940 --> 00:48:37,700
Yes, I know his weaknesses too.

1260
00:48:37,700 --> 00:48:39,980
Yes, he knows my weaknesses too.

1261
00:48:39,980 --> 00:48:41,580
But we have absolute confidence

1262
00:48:41,580 --> 00:48:46,140
that we will always share that with 100% honor.

1263
00:48:46,140 --> 00:48:49,660
And I would have never found relationships like that

1264
00:48:49,660 --> 00:48:51,380
if I hadn't done what you said

1265
00:48:51,380 --> 00:48:55,580
and given myself to figuring this out and stuck to it.

1266
00:48:55,580 --> 00:48:58,060
So I'm really glad you stuck to it too, Drayson.

1267
00:48:58,060 --> 00:49:00,180
And I hope that everybody who's listening right now

1268
00:49:00,180 --> 00:49:01,860
has the opportunity to exercise

1269
00:49:01,860 --> 00:49:04,140
the same tenacious persistence

1270
00:49:04,140 --> 00:49:06,620
and go after what they're meant to go after in this life,

1271
00:49:06,620 --> 00:49:07,700
their life's call.

1272
00:49:07,700 --> 00:49:11,700
Absolutely, and a couple last things for you here, Jackson.

1273
00:49:11,700 --> 00:49:13,180
Hit it.

1274
00:49:13,180 --> 00:49:15,420
That I got from what you said, right?

1275
00:49:15,420 --> 00:49:19,300
You definitely are doing what you're meant to be doing

1276
00:49:19,300 --> 00:49:21,060
with what you're talking about.

1277
00:49:21,060 --> 00:49:23,740
And I love how you described both partnerships,

1278
00:49:23,740 --> 00:49:26,540
one that was amazing and one that wasn't so amazing.

1279
00:49:26,540 --> 00:49:28,300
Again, based on everything that happened, right?

1280
00:49:28,300 --> 00:49:32,340
It was amazing and the adversities were far more amazing.

1281
00:49:32,340 --> 00:49:33,380
But the lesson there,

1282
00:49:33,380 --> 00:49:35,420
and this is something that I've learned time and time again

1283
00:49:35,420 --> 00:49:39,140
is that as humans, much like you talked about control earlier,

1284
00:49:39,140 --> 00:49:40,500
the other thing that we want

1285
00:49:40,500 --> 00:49:42,140
is to only experience the good times,

1286
00:49:42,140 --> 00:49:44,020
to only experience the good things

1287
00:49:44,020 --> 00:49:45,940
without realizing that a lot of times

1288
00:49:45,940 --> 00:49:48,380
it's those bad things that end up teaching us the most.

1289
00:49:48,380 --> 00:49:49,220
That's correct.

1290
00:49:49,220 --> 00:49:50,900
So we have to go through those times as well

1291
00:49:50,900 --> 00:49:52,780
to be able to learn and grow.

1292
00:49:52,780 --> 00:49:55,220
And they usually catapult us to the next level

1293
00:49:55,220 --> 00:49:57,420
of where we're meant to be if we learn from it,

1294
00:49:57,420 --> 00:49:59,060
if we learn from it, right?

1295
00:49:59,060 --> 00:50:01,860
Because there is something really important

1296
00:50:01,860 --> 00:50:05,220
that I learned a long time ago from a sermon that I watched.

1297
00:50:05,220 --> 00:50:08,300
And it was, all these obstacles that we find,

1298
00:50:09,420 --> 00:50:12,780
they either become your prison or your,

1299
00:50:14,980 --> 00:50:18,380
they become your prison or they become your,

1300
00:50:19,380 --> 00:50:20,580
what was the other part?

1301
00:50:22,100 --> 00:50:22,940
Springboard.

1302
00:50:22,940 --> 00:50:24,340
Oh, there you go, springboard.

1303
00:50:24,340 --> 00:50:28,340
Yeah, so essentially you can either be stuck where you are

1304
00:50:28,340 --> 00:50:30,060
or it's gonna catapult you to the next level

1305
00:50:30,060 --> 00:50:31,900
of where you're meant to be, right?

1306
00:50:31,900 --> 00:50:34,580
And then the last thing was gonna be that

1307
00:50:34,580 --> 00:50:37,500
the master shows up when the student's ready.

1308
00:50:37,500 --> 00:50:40,020
So just be ready.

1309
00:50:40,020 --> 00:50:43,460
That was Dr. Todd Snyder, by the way, showing up on time

1310
00:50:43,460 --> 00:50:45,100
when I needed him.

1311
00:50:45,100 --> 00:50:47,980
And these, and you mentioned the adversities.

1312
00:50:48,820 --> 00:50:51,740
I will love both those men forever.

1313
00:50:51,740 --> 00:50:54,460
I have a very strong conviction for our relationships

1314
00:50:54,460 --> 00:50:57,500
because of the adversities that we went through

1315
00:50:57,500 --> 00:50:59,220
and that we supported each other through.

1316
00:50:59,220 --> 00:51:03,380
And it is what often strengthens relationships the most.

1317
00:51:03,380 --> 00:51:05,700
So Drazen, this was an absolute pleasure.

1318
00:51:05,700 --> 00:51:07,420
Vision Pros for listening in,

1319
00:51:07,420 --> 00:51:09,180
if they wanna connect with you.

1320
00:51:09,180 --> 00:51:12,180
LinkedIn, elsewhere, where's the best place to go?

1321
00:51:12,180 --> 00:51:13,340
LinkedIn always works for me.

1322
00:51:13,340 --> 00:51:15,540
I mean, I think you have the links on there

1323
00:51:15,540 --> 00:51:18,860
from my social media, my website.

1324
00:51:18,860 --> 00:51:20,500
I mean, I'm fairly available.

1325
00:51:20,500 --> 00:51:21,940
People can just Google my name and find me

1326
00:51:21,940 --> 00:51:23,660
in some ways to perform.

1327
00:51:23,660 --> 00:51:25,180
Awesome. I like to connect.

1328
00:51:25,180 --> 00:51:27,100
We'll have those in the landing pages, you heard it.

1329
00:51:27,100 --> 00:51:29,820
And feel free to reach out to Drazen anytime.

1330
00:51:29,820 --> 00:51:32,820
Everybody have a phenomenal Friday.

1331
00:51:32,820 --> 00:51:35,740
As great of a Friday night as Drazen and I are having,

1332
00:51:35,740 --> 00:51:37,060
we hope you're having the same.

1333
00:51:37,060 --> 00:51:38,340
If you have questions for us,

1334
00:51:38,340 --> 00:51:40,140
don't hesitate to drop those in the comments.

1335
00:51:40,140 --> 00:51:42,300
It's an absolute privilege to serve you guys.

1336
00:51:42,300 --> 00:51:43,460
And if you have any comments

1337
00:51:43,460 --> 00:51:45,460
of how we can improve the show for your sake

1338
00:51:45,460 --> 00:51:46,500
or things that you'd like to see,

1339
00:51:46,500 --> 00:51:47,620
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1340
00:51:47,620 --> 00:51:49,220
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1341
00:51:49,220 --> 00:51:50,420
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1342
00:51:50,420 --> 00:51:52,580
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1343
00:51:52,580 --> 00:51:54,860
please share it with those that are there in your life,

1344
00:51:54,860 --> 00:51:57,020
because I'm certain it will help them as well.

1345
00:51:57,020 --> 00:51:57,980
Thank you everybody.

1346
00:51:57,980 --> 00:51:58,820
Have a good weekend.

1347
00:51:58,820 --> 00:52:00,300
Thank you for being here today.

1348
00:52:00,300 --> 00:52:01,580
I'm really happy that you tuned in

1349
00:52:01,580 --> 00:52:02,820
to Vision Pros Live.

1350
00:52:02,820 --> 00:52:05,460
I'm looking forward to seeing your reactions

1351
00:52:05,460 --> 00:52:07,740
as these episodes continue to move forward.

1352
00:52:07,740 --> 00:52:09,460
This is gonna get more and more fun.

1353
00:52:09,460 --> 00:52:11,260
We'll have more and more engagement as well.

1354
00:52:11,260 --> 00:52:32,260
I invite people to participate in the show.