1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:08,320 Christian female entrepreneurs. Christian females. And what's the number? What are we up to more or less? 2 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:15,760 So right now I've been able to impact about 2,300 women. That's awesome. That's amazing. 3 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:23,200 And so what types of activities do you do to impact? What are some of your favorite channels 4 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:30,080 to serve people? I love coaching. I am really gifted at coaching and I can really connect 5 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:35,920 the dots between the mindset struggles that they're having and scripture and help them 6 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:41,040 tie them together so that they can really make a huge shift that's lasting. 7 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:47,760 I love that. Do you have a favorite scripture? Oh, I have a lot. Probably Isaiah 61. 8 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:53,600 All right. Welcome in to Vision Pros Live with Jackson Calame. I'm your show host. We'll be doing 9 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:59,200 interviews for visionary entrepreneurs and guest leaders who are building fantastic visions out there. 10 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:14,800 Welcome to Vision Pros Live. I'm your host, Jackson Calame, founder and CEO of First Class Business. 11 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:21,520 I'm excited to have Carissa Cuade on today. She is on a mission to help serve 100,000, help serve 12 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:29,520 and impact 100,000 Christian women businesses. And I imagine there are plenty of male businesses, 13 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:35,840 businesses like mine that will be impacted by her as well as she goes about that service. So if you're 14 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:41,680 Christian and you're striving to grow your business and understand how business growth and finances 15 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:46,480 go hand in hand and are supported scripturally, this could be a phenomenal episode for you to 16 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:52,720 listen to. We're also going to talk about redefining wealth and what wealth means as a system of 17 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:58,400 abundance for our lives. Before we dive into that and we dive into Carissa's story more in depth, 18 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:03,440 I also want to give a shout out to some of the systems and tools and people that help 19 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:08,320 our growth at First Class Business. So ColdClick is the entity that we use for our LinkedIn 20 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:15,200 automation. With LinkedIn automation, why do we do it? One, we know that at the top of the business 21 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:21,040 funnel of marketing, there's this giant thing that people forget called distribution. And distribution 22 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:24,160 is supposed to be, again, the largest part of the funnel. You're supposed to be getting in front of 23 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:29,040 as many people as you can. That's what allows you to not force relationships. That's what allows you 24 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:35,120 to make sure that you are meeting people in abundance and then the right fruit comes along 25 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:39,680 at the right time and you can build a holistic relationship. We're not begging people to move 26 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:44,960 forward in business with you. So I'm really happy with what Art has built over at ColdClick, 27 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:52,640 how they help us avoid breaking the rules of the algorithm and make sure that, again, 28 00:02:52,640 --> 00:02:57,120 we get in front of as many people as possible. There's another website up there at the top 29 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:01,440 called Simply Fast Websites. I've been very impressed with Shane Michael as a friend. 30 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:06,400 He's a young gun. He's got a long way to go with his business growth. And at the same time, 31 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:12,480 if I were starting my business today, he's probably who I would have turned to to get my website done. 32 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:18,960 Yeah, I could build on Squarespace and get some context or concepts of what I want. I could build 33 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:23,760 on Wix or other free platforms to build it out. But when I saw that he was offering websites at 34 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:30,640 $179, I was like, oh my gosh, I spent thousands on my first few websites. I was like, this is amazing 35 00:03:30,640 --> 00:03:35,680 that he wants. And he's got this. He seems to have a heart of gold. I say seems because I'm very 36 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:41,440 careful in my relationships. You know, and I know that everybody on earth has just as many problems 37 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:46,880 as they do victories. We're all sinners. We're all saints. So I don't I don't know Shane well enough 38 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:51,440 to just say, man, he's exactly who I go with. But he's certainly somebody whose name I would put in 39 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:55,600 the bucket. If you're in that beginning stage of building a business and you're trying to understand 40 00:03:55,600 --> 00:04:00,320 how to launch your website, then I would highly recommend checking out Simply Fast Websites and 41 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:05,280 what he's up to and see if it's something that you can support. Then there's the Water Project. 42 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:11,440 The Water Project is my favorite charity to talk about. And that's simply because I just can't take 43 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:16,320 for granted the fact that I have access to water every single day, every single moment that I want 44 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:22,320 it. And there's people in the world who don't. And that kind of drives me crazy. And so if we have 45 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:27,920 the ability to give $1 or if you have the ability to just reshare this message and help people 46 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:33,200 understand that you can give back in a meaningful way, imagine the generational impact that you can 47 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:38,000 make by helping that community get access to clean drinking water, where it's taking time for them 48 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:43,040 being able to go to school. It's taking time from them being able to provide for their families. 49 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:47,840 They're usually going to water sources 30 minute walking 30 minutes to get to a water source. And 50 00:04:47,840 --> 00:04:54,560 that water source may not be sanitary as well. And then there's, of course, the community fighting 51 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:59,040 that can occur when there's a line for a water source. And you have to wait and you're worried 52 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:03,120 about your sick family at home, et cetera. I mean, I know it's heavy. I know that's deep. 53 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:07,600 But this world is full of heavy and deep that we sometimes ignore. I don't think we should. 54 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:11,920 So you have the opportunity to see the transformation take place thanks to what the 55 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:16,640 Water Project does in terms of giving you updates of what they've used your funding for. 56 00:05:17,280 --> 00:05:22,480 I think it's very neat. If you have a cause that you'd like to see a support in addition to this, 57 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:26,960 don't hesitate to drop that in the comments, please, because I'd love to see it. And I'd love 58 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:32,160 to be an advocate for any cause out there where we can help the 8 billion in the world who need it. 59 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:36,640 So without further ado, I'm going to bring one person on who's doing just that in massive ways 60 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:41,680 for you, the listener, those who are entrepreneurs, those who are Christian or understand the value of 61 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:46,800 Christian values. There's a lot of content we'll be discussing today that should be 62 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:51,440 extremely beneficial to you. So Carissa, thank you so much for joining me on Vision Pros Live. 63 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:55,600 I'm happy to have you today. Thank you. And I love your vision for the 64 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:59,840 partnering with the Water Project. I think that's what it's all about with business is to have 65 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:05,840 a business that is successful so that you can go and fund those projects. So I love it. 66 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:11,600 Thank you. I appreciate that. Oh, man. Doubling down. Woo. Got a live support around us. 67 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:18,000 So good stuff. Well, Carissa, if you could help me define for those who are listening a little bit 68 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:23,840 better, who do you feel should be listening today? And beyond the 2400 business owners that you've 69 00:06:23,840 --> 00:06:30,160 already helped with massive impact, who, you know, why should they be listening to you? What is it 70 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:38,240 that qualifies you to guide them on finances, entrepreneurship and wealth? Well, I serve Christian 71 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:44,800 female business owners and entrepreneurs. And the reason why I think they should listen to me is 72 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:51,360 because really my own struggles with money and, you know, just I had a lot of fear around money. 73 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:57,200 I had a lot of anxiety around money. In fact, it got so bad that one night I was on the couch. It 74 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:04,240 was 2 a.m. And every muscle is aching with fear. And all I could think was, why can't I make more 75 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:10,640 money? And why do I feel so guilty for wanting to make money? If I didn't make more money in my 76 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:15,360 business, I couldn't provide for my family. I couldn't put my husband through school. And I 77 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:22,080 felt like no matter how much I made, it was never enough. And I was never enough. I was thinking 78 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:28,640 about money all the time. Was I being greedy and selfish? I mean, just like many of you, I've 79 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:35,840 struggled with carrying so much shame and guilt around money. For me, it was a fear of making 80 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:40,960 money into an idol for you. It might be guilt you're successful when others aren't and doubting your 81 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:47,520 value in the marketplace or a fear no one will buy. Whatever it is, especially with Christian women, 82 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:54,000 we all struggle with money. And so I began to study everything the Bible said about money. And over 83 00:07:54,000 --> 00:08:01,120 time, I learned a lot of principles that really shifted my view of money. And so that's what I 84 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:07,680 bring to the table, how I can serve other people. I love that. To correlate that, one of the best 85 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:13,040 health coaches I've ever met, Mano Most Influential, is a lady, I'm actually not going to mention her 86 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,320 name because I want to steal your thunder. I want to build on what you just said. But 87 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:24,640 she is not a qualified health practitioner. She is not trained on nutrition. She had a binge eating 88 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:30,160 disorder problem. And she knows what it's like to be there. And because of that, she has this 89 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:34,960 passion about her that inspires people to move the needle forward. And she makes a lot of very 90 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:42,960 certified people upset. But at the same time, she changes lives. And I think that's amazing. And so 91 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:48,000 you're putting that into action as well. You mentioned something that really you talked about, 92 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:53,440 why can I make more money? Why do I feel this guilt? But then you also revealed something 93 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:58,240 vulnerable that I think so many people would shy away from. You said, and I want to put my husband 94 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:02,720 through school. Some people would judge that from the outside and say, well, wait a second, 95 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:08,320 he's the provider. Wait a second. Why is that responsibility for you to go through school? 96 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:15,200 To put him through school. We live in a world that takes extremes and runs with them in very 97 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:20,480 unhealthy ways. Can you quantify that for us? What makes you feel responsible to do that? What 98 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:28,080 drives you to do that? How does that work? Well, that was a no. And I appreciate the question. And 99 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:34,160 this was a decision that when we got married, he was in the middle of school. And we agreed that I 100 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:45,440 would work. And this it's all done and over with now. I was able to save up $79,775 over time to 101 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:53,360 pay cash for his education. But the thing that you're right, there is a lot of comments that 102 00:09:53,360 --> 00:10:00,160 are made when you have a family who makes that type of decision like we did. And I got all kinds 103 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:05,840 of comments on, shouldn't he be providing? Shouldn't he be the one working? And that's 104 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:11,920 part of the reason I struggled with being a business owner and having a successful business. 105 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:20,400 And, you know, because of mainly how I grew up, the culture around me, the people who were saying 106 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:25,840 that, you know, you should just be staying home and let him work. And I really wrestled with that. 107 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:31,600 And, you know, is that okay for me as a woman to be out there making money to be in business? 108 00:10:32,560 --> 00:10:41,760 You know, I had to support my family for a while. Was this okay? And what I found in the Bible was 109 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:48,480 God has given us both men and women, the command to be fruitful and to multiply, which is financial 110 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:57,360 terms. It's not just having more kids. And we are both tasked with serving business, partnering in 111 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:04,160 business to serve other people, partnering with God, serve other people, solve their problems and 112 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:11,760 make their lives better. And that is business. And in exchange, God created money to be used in 113 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:19,040 exchange. So when I serve somebody, you know, selling is serving and loving because I'm solving 114 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:26,160 a problem for them. And in exchange, paying is Thanksgiving because now they're grateful to have 115 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:33,840 that problem solved. And so we both, men and women, have been tasked with this. Yeah. I love that. 116 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:41,840 Super, super powerful. It also says to replenish the earth, right? Not replenish the crib. But at 117 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:46,480 the same time, it's okay. Like we are supposed to have children and all that too, but replenishing 118 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:51,760 the earth means we're supposed to be taking care of this earth and the people within it, which also 119 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:58,320 alludes to the fact that finances, resources are an important way to do that. You also talked about 120 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:05,040 the people who had their opinions, right? A lot of them had probably great opinions, but I think 121 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:11,920 it's important to remember like the crowd will always be louder than Christ. We live in a society 122 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:18,480 where the majority vote, you know, is how we go about things for society. But that's not necessarily 123 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:25,280 how we should be measuring what type of advice we should take for our spiritual journey. You know, 124 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:30,880 it's not a popularity contest in that regard. Well, there's a lot of Bible verses that are 125 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:36,160 actually taken out of context when you talk about money. And there's a handful of them that are 126 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:41,600 quoted, you know, it's easier for camel to go through the eye of a needle than a rich person 127 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:49,040 to enter into heaven, sell all you have to the poor. And these verses, what I've seen in my last 128 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:55,600 13 years of study are a lot of times taken out of context and used to keep women, especially 129 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:57,440 paralyzed by fear and shame. 130 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:03,520 And you're right. I hope we have time to get into some of those verses and break them down. That's 131 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:09,040 one of my favorites, by the way. So probably tag team that a little bit. But before we do that, 132 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:15,600 let's talk about your vision for those that you serve, just to expand even further. I imagine, 133 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:20,160 you know, you talked about the aches and pains that you felt. And I'm I think of my sisters, 134 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:25,200 I got five sisters. So I think of some of them. And what I know they go through with their own 135 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:31,840 who the burdens they carry on their shoulders to lift the world. What are what is it? Were you 136 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:36,240 hoping to see these women these hundred thousand women get to at the end of their journey or 137 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:37,200 throughout their journey? 138 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:44,240 Well, what I love and I'm so passionate about is just I see God's love for women. 139 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:53,280 Just I see God's design is he has created women, especially to be extremely generous and to really 140 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:59,600 care about the entire community and lifting the entire community up. In fact, it's been proven 141 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:08,240 that female entrepreneurs who are millionaires are far more generous than males are in their same 142 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:15,120 demographic. And when you apply Christian values and the desire to really see God's kingdom come 143 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:22,560 and just people being benefited and their lives being changed, they have such a heart to get rid 144 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:27,920 of like a lot of the evil that's in the world that's being funded by money. And so you have all of 145 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:34,800 that is already in them. But then they're really wrestling with money and with being in business 146 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:41,760 and if this is OK. And so what I love to do is teaching them how to tap into the power of 147 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:47,040 scripture, actually understand God's heart for money, understand God's heart for business and 148 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:52,720 how he's equipped them so that they can go out and from every step of the way, from how you 149 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:58,240 sell and how you bring in money, how you manage the money, how you provide for your family, 150 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:06,160 how you're generous. This all puts God on display in ways that everybody else will see how blessed 151 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:11,600 you are and that they will be drawn to know God because of the generous God that you serve. 152 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:18,240 And so that's my heart for these hundred thousand women is if I can help them tap into the power of 153 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:24,400 scripture to understand what God says about money, about business, about selling, and they can have 154 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:32,160 this shift, they're going to impact so many people, Jackson, their family, their community, 155 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:39,920 the world for generations to come. And that's what I'm most excited about. That's what I know is 156 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:45,120 possible. And we just have to get the mindsets done in line with scripture. We have to get their 157 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:51,360 businesses flourishing so that they can do that. That's amazing. And you see the you see these women 158 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:55,760 experiencing that transition. How does that transform them personally? 159 00:15:56,800 --> 00:16:02,800 I love seeing them. I do most of my work online. And so I get to see from week to week, 160 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:11,360 literally their countenance changes and their physical appearance change because all of this 161 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:17,360 bondage around money, all of these, the shame and the guilt and the fear, everything, it just starts 162 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:24,160 falling off. And so they are just more radiant through the screen. And they're making so many, 163 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:30,880 they're able to come home. And now their family dynamics around money change because when you're 164 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:38,000 not stressed out about money, everyone's happier. Right. And then they're impacting, they're able to 165 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:44,480 go out there more confidently and enroll more clients. And they really have a bigger, bigger 166 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:51,600 impact on each of their clients that they're able to serve and provide the service in such a way that 167 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:59,520 doesn't like doesn't get tied up in like, am I good enough? Is this okay? Is this what are they 168 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:05,040 going to think about me charging, but they're able to serve freely. Right. And so now they're 169 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:10,080 everyone who interacts with that client is now impacted as well. And so it just is such a huge 170 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:18,320 ripple effect. And I can't even really quantify how much of an impact it makes. Absolutely. I love 171 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:23,200 that. I thought you did a really good job of quantifying and painting the vision of that. So 172 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:30,160 thank you. What about you? What's your vision for yourself? And this can be your vision in the next 173 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:35,840 five months. It could be a vision in the next 50 years, 500 years, your call. Well, right now, 174 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:42,240 my main vision is serving the a hundred thousand women in the next nine years by 2032. And I just 175 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:50,560 want to be able to have a business. I've grown my business from the ground up, but I think I would 176 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:57,120 like to invest in maybe buying some local businesses and improve their marketing and improve their 177 00:17:57,120 --> 00:18:04,000 ability. Cause I don't want to do all the building up, but I think there's a lot of opportunities 178 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:10,000 for us to really invest in our communities. Cause there's a lot of business owners that are 179 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:15,040 retiring and their families don't want to take on their business. And so there's a lot of 180 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:20,240 opportunities for us to already come into a business that is, you know, they have a good 181 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:26,400 customer base, they have a good profit base, but maybe they don't have the online marketing skills. 182 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:34,000 Maybe they don't have the technology. And so that's kind of a, besides a hundred thousand, you know, 183 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:40,320 investing into my local community and businesses. Very smart. I had another guest who talked about, 184 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:44,720 I think it was, he's only done a pre-show with us, but he did a, he talked about the baby boomers 185 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:51,120 and how they're retiring like crazy right now. A lot of them are wanting to off, you know, like to 186 00:18:51,120 --> 00:18:55,040 figure out what do I do with my business? I mean, how do I, how do I make money on that? 187 00:18:55,040 --> 00:19:02,800 How do I make money on the sell of this? I also have a friend who bought a bakery and they were 188 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:07,760 just, they were good. They were ready to move on. They had built a great foundation of, of savings 189 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:16,400 for themselves. And he was able to buy the bakery at the, with a monthly payment that was, that was 190 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:23,280 almost the exact same as they were already generating for income. And so he didn't have 191 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:28,480 to pay for the business out of his own pocket. He was able to maintain. And then he just made a few 192 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:33,120 quick tweaks to make sure customer service improved a little bit. And now they're gaining 193 00:19:33,120 --> 00:19:38,720 10% profit. And so he bought a business without using any of his own money. And there's lots of 194 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:42,240 opportunities like that, that you're, you're, I'm sure you're teaching business owners about. 195 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:49,840 And it's, it's helpful to be part of a community and mastermind where you've got lots of similar 196 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:54,000 people. I think it's awesome that you built a business model around people who are so similar 197 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:58,720 to you. And, you know, why would you not want to do that with your time? You know? 198 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:05,680 I mean, that's who I can speak the language, the easiest, I can connect with them the most. And 199 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:10,960 that's what the one thing that I do bring is that connection, because like you were saying about 200 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:20,880 that health coach, not all of us have the business background, but we have the personal victory and 201 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:27,840 overcoming. And that empathy can really connect with clients and really be able to serve them on 202 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:36,240 a powerful level. Absolutely. Some of these, some of these individuals are going to face some very 203 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:43,200 dark times as they build. I mean, nobody's immune to it, not Job, not anybody else. So what, what 204 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:47,680 has been your worst business experience ever, or one that you've assisted somebody through? 205 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:56,400 Well, personally, I, you know, there's in the early days, I invested a lot of money. I didn't 206 00:20:56,400 --> 00:21:02,080 have the business strategy. I've had my own business, but it's been a service based business. 207 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:09,360 And that was a lot easier to build because I was in high demand, but then building an online 208 00:21:09,360 --> 00:21:15,680 business, you know, so there's a lot of time of investing into the business and not seeing it all 209 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:20,960 work out like you wanted it to. And then just really struggling, like, is, is this really what 210 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:25,520 God has called me to do? Am I cut out for this? And I know a lot of my clients really struggle 211 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:34,320 with that too. But when you talk about money, a lot of things come up. And I have clients, you know, 212 00:21:35,120 --> 00:21:42,080 even today we were talking about increasing prices and expanding our businesses. And what came up was 213 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:49,600 some very personal things, very heavy things that they had been dealing with related to money that 214 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:55,200 wasn't really quite on raising prices. I mean, that was the question that started us off. And so I do 215 00:21:55,200 --> 00:22:04,320 a lot of really looking at where does that root come from? Whatever is going on like that, that 216 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:10,320 feeling, that guilt, that shame, where does that come from? And usually it's an experience that 217 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:16,960 you've had when you were younger, something that other people have done to you. And so we need to 218 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:24,240 work through a process of forgiving them and, and also ourselves, and then also seeing what God 219 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:29,440 actually says and then reframing that so that they can move forward in peace and freedom. 220 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:38,160 Well said. We only stop learning when we choose to, you know? And so I was doing an exercise on this 221 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:44,480 just two weeks ago. And in the journaling activity, I came to realize that when I won in sports, 222 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:52,000 I was never celebrated. I was always the enemy, you know, and, and I didn't have a healthy group 223 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,760 of friends in that regard. We had lots of great things in our friendships, but in that regard, 224 00:22:56,480 --> 00:23:04,880 you know, if I won, man, it was, it was, it was everybody else lost. And that, you know, when you, 225 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:10,880 when you discover that at 36 and you can unlock and say, okay, well, how's that affecting me in 226 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:17,680 today's relationships? You know, it helps you climb the mountain to new heights. You start to realize 227 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:25,200 like, okay, I can win and other people win too. And I can find relationships with people who also 228 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:31,040 want to see me win. I don't have to work with people who see my victories as a threat to their 229 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:36,800 victories. So I'm glad that you, you brought that up and that, you know, the mindset opportunities 230 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:42,000 for growth. Let's talk about your best experience in business. So out of all the many things you've 231 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:46,080 accomplished, what is, what's the one that comes to mind that you're just like, oh my gosh, I'm so 232 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:54,800 happy this happened. You know, I never saw myself coaching and teaching people what I've learned. 233 00:23:55,520 --> 00:24:03,040 And so to have all of my own struggles for a lot of years, and then the time I've really put into 234 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:08,560 studying what the Bible says about money and about wealth and about business, and now to be able to 235 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:14,080 sit here and share it with somebody else and see that transformation that happens that I already 236 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:22,000 mentioned, see that ripple effect of impact and generosity. I'm just so humbled that I get to do 237 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:29,440 this. I absolutely love what I do. And I'm just so grateful for this opportunity. I love that. And 238 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:35,760 I, and it's cool as I see that, you know, if you go to, if you go to your website, we can see how 239 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:41,440 that's manifested itself and how it's alive and well. So we'll take a look at that while we dive 240 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:47,040 into the next question, but I had to pull that out because you got a lovely brand, you know, 241 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:52,240 that's very clear and precise in what you do. You can see the joy in your photos. You know, 242 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:59,600 I see it in your countenance on the live podcast as well. And then there's just all these elements 243 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:05,520 have built onto each other in such a way that show the depth of your growth as you've learned 244 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:10,080 and you've applied it. And then you've now learned how to teach it to others. It's just, 245 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:16,560 it's just very clear to me. So with, with, and I'm glad you, you hit that as the best experience. 246 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:21,360 What powerful lesson, if there's only one lesson you could share from other visionaries 247 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,640 who want to learn from your experience, what would it be? 248 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:34,640 I would say the biggest lesson is that there is a lot of answers in scripture. 249 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:40,240 If you're struggling with mindsets around money or mindsets around selling mindsets around business. 250 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:49,680 And for me, the, this is where I've had the lasting transformation for myself and for my clients, 251 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:58,800 where I actually can move forward in having, like you said, that joy and having that peace 252 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:05,120 that I never had before. And it's changed my life so much that I would just encourage you, 253 00:26:05,120 --> 00:26:10,560 if this is something that you have been trying other money mindset work, other coaches, 254 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:15,760 and something is still missing, I think it's scripture. I think it's the power of scripture 255 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:22,960 to actually transform your money blocks into abundance so that you can create a flourishing business. 256 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:32,480 I love that. It's something that I have been repenting of quite a bit, actually. And I'm a 257 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:39,920 big fan of talking about prayer and prayer as the resource. I've heard, and it's somewhat true, 258 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:44,880 when we speak to God, we pray when God speaks to us, you know, we read the scriptures, 259 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:52,640 so that He speaks to us. And I don't talk about it with my entrepreneurs enough, you know, 260 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:58,480 and it's probably because I also don't do it enough in terms of reading my scriptures. 261 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:04,720 But I did start reading the Old Testament and got myself on a track where I'll read it within six 262 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:10,640 months. And I don't know, it's like six to eight chapters a day. And I'm on a section right now 263 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:21,760 where Jacob and Laban have had this discussion over their flocks and what Jacob, you know, 264 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:28,400 Jacob will basically, what I understood was, will take the broken animals, the less desirable 265 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:33,040 animals, and then he ends up with this amazing flock because of some different things that he 266 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:37,680 does, blah, blah, blah. But it was a really interesting, I was like, man, there is so much 267 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:45,200 correlation with business negotiations, you know, and there's so much you can learn from this story 268 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:51,920 about two people negotiating, getting into a struggle with each other, you know, literally 269 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:57,360 like chasing each other down, you know, and like blaming each other for all sorts of things and 270 00:27:57,360 --> 00:28:04,320 how they go about their conflict resolution. It's just amazing, like you said, how 271 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:11,280 applicable all the different stories and opportunities are when you actually take the time to study it. 272 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:19,760 And if you also know how to interpret it or know how to seek somebody who knows how to interpret it. 273 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:24,400 And that can get a little sticky, but that's where, to me, the prayer comes into play. 274 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:30,400 You know, like staying really close to your relationship with God, otherwise you can end up, 275 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:35,520 you know, kind of, you can misinterpret the knowledge, so to speak. Well, I would love to 276 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:39,680 hear you just speak on that. What are your thoughts? How do you go about guiding people 277 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:49,200 as they dive into scripture? You know, I've spent a lot of years just diving into this particular 278 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:57,760 topic, and there are over 2000 verses around money, but there's also a whole lot of 279 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:04,320 more, like that story that you were just mentioning that also has talks about money and talks about wealth, 280 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:10,480 but it doesn't actually mention it and or state it directly. And so you have to really understand 281 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:18,160 what the Bible says. So I do a lot of, I mean, I share a lot of scriptures in my programs, 282 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:24,160 and I have people who are like, Oh, I love your stuff, but can you not share any scriptures? And 283 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:29,680 I'm like, Well, have you seen my PowerPoints? Because I just did one and it had like two pages 284 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:37,760 of references in there. And so when you have to know like the historical context and the 285 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:42,400 background to that's really helpful. I've done a lot of word studies, I've done a lot of 286 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:49,760 looking at Jewish historical context and ideas and on how things mean and what they mean. 287 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:56,320 And it's just a lot of studying. But if you go through it so quickly, you don't always know 288 00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:03,360 that that actually relates to money or to business. And so you might just skip over it completely. 289 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:11,520 And so it's really taking the time to just break these things down to I left each and so I'm 290 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:17,120 actually able to take these scriptures and say this one connects here. This one is the 291 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:24,960 is talking about, you know, for example, like the land is often used as a symbol for business. 292 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:31,440 And so when you have God saying, I want to bless you, and I want to take you into this land 293 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:39,440 with the vines and the olive trees and the grain, the flocks and the herds. Those are all different 294 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:47,360 types of businesses. Yeah. But we have to have the responsibility to tend it and to nurture and to 295 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:53,600 cultivate it. Otherwise, it's not going to bring bring any profit in. Right. So you have to 296 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:58,640 understand all of this. And it's either a lot of study on your own a lot of, you know, resources 297 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:04,080 and having the discernment to say, is this really what God is actually saying? Or is it what somebody 298 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:10,720 is saying? And you know, you have to know the scriptures to be able to be to define which one 299 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:16,320 is true. I love that. Yeah. And to know the scriptures, you have to participate, right? You 300 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:22,240 have to be willing to make mistakes to in the process and set it you go aside and learn just 301 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:26,560 like learning a language. It's it's really it's no different. It is language. And it's a different 302 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:33,520 language, especially if you're reading an older version of the Bible. And so you have to be 303 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:41,520 willing to find a sense of calm in your life. You know, make time for calm and make time for 304 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:48,080 slowing down to get those realities. I speak Spanish fluently. The Bible is not a language 305 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:54,480 that you can learn from. It's a language that you can learn from. And so you have to be willing to 306 00:31:54,480 --> 00:32:01,680 find a sense of calm in your life. And so you have to be willing to find a sense of calm in your life. 307 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:07,440 I speak Spanish fluently, the Bible is not the same in Spanish as it is in English. People don't 308 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:12,640 realize that there's a lot of hardcore certain types of Christians that want to want to say, 309 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:20,000 it's all perfect, you know, or it's all translated perfectly. And the context of the message is, 310 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:27,200 but there are definite, there are definite discrepancies between different languages. 311 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,200 knowing how to deal with that. 312 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,000 I mean, how do I interpret that? 313 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:36,200 How do I use comprehensive analysis skills, 314 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,240 comprehension analysis skills to gather 315 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,300 what I'm supposed to gather out of the stories? 316 00:32:41,300 --> 00:32:42,600 It can feel overwhelming, 317 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,280 but that's where you need to come. 318 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,520 Realize you're in a good place, you're learning, 319 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,920 and always, hopefully with the spirit on this, 320 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,280 and then it's amazing what, 321 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,160 you'll get the answers that you need for yourself 322 00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,160 if you learn to trust your heart and mind. 323 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,300 What else would you add to that, Carissa? 324 00:33:02,300 --> 00:33:03,760 Or take away, feel free to. 325 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,880 Well, and what I see is when women, 326 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:10,000 I mean, that's who I work with, 327 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:11,880 when they're like, okay, I'm gonna actually learn 328 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,080 what the Bible says about money 329 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:15,860 and shift all these things, 330 00:33:15,860 --> 00:33:19,840 I see that God is bringing clarity and bringing wisdom 331 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:23,080 and bringing just even a fruitful abundance 332 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,600 with more clients or being able to have the confidence 333 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:30,320 to raise your rates and doing this all very, very quickly. 334 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,520 So while some of us have had to go through 335 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,780 the whole many, many years of studying it, 336 00:33:36,780 --> 00:33:38,240 it doesn't always work that, 337 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,520 it doesn't have to take that long. 338 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,820 It can happen a lot faster. 339 00:33:42,820 --> 00:33:44,800 It's just, you really need to find somebody 340 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:48,440 who is well-versed in scripture, who can guide you, 341 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,280 and who can explain these things, 342 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,640 because if you just read over some of these passages, 343 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:58,440 you don't know without diving into it a lot deeper. 344 00:33:58,440 --> 00:33:59,280 Well said. 345 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,800 I mean, and that's where, again, 346 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:07,680 so how do you recognize somebody who is that guide? 347 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:10,920 How do you know a person's the right guide or not? 348 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:15,560 In a book full of warnings about wolves and sheep's clothing, 349 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,660 how do you go about recognizing the guides? 350 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,320 Well, are they speaking biblical truth? 351 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,740 That's of, you know- 352 00:34:23,740 --> 00:34:25,580 It's hard to know if you can't interpret it. 353 00:34:25,580 --> 00:34:26,660 That's true. 354 00:34:26,660 --> 00:34:28,620 So, and I'm not trying to challenge you 355 00:34:28,620 --> 00:34:32,140 as much as, again, expose the reality that, you know, 356 00:34:32,140 --> 00:34:35,340 there are mechanisms to help us, 357 00:34:35,340 --> 00:34:36,980 and just trying to explore those in depth 358 00:34:36,980 --> 00:34:39,320 for somebody who may not know 359 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:40,980 what to accept as truth and not. 360 00:34:42,500 --> 00:34:44,460 Well, and you have to use your discernment. 361 00:34:44,460 --> 00:34:49,460 I mean, the Holy Spirit gives us a check in our spirit 362 00:34:49,460 --> 00:34:54,180 of, for example, the women that I work with, 363 00:34:54,180 --> 00:34:57,500 you know, anytime like woo woo, manifesting money, 364 00:34:57,500 --> 00:35:00,660 or even prosperity gospel comes up, they're like, 365 00:35:00,660 --> 00:35:03,260 eh, I don't wanna have anything to do with it. 366 00:35:03,260 --> 00:35:05,060 It doesn't sit right. 367 00:35:05,060 --> 00:35:09,120 Now there's pieces of it that are true, 368 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,980 but that's also taken a left-hand turn 369 00:35:11,980 --> 00:35:15,680 and gone a different way than what God has intended. 370 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:20,080 And so if you have those checks in your spirit, 371 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,820 that's an indication, like, something's not right here. 372 00:35:23,820 --> 00:35:25,240 Maybe I need to look deeper. 373 00:35:25,240 --> 00:35:27,600 Maybe I need to look for somebody else. 374 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:32,600 And when you see the scriptures being presented in truth, 375 00:35:33,720 --> 00:35:36,080 your spirit resonates with that. 376 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:36,900 Yeah. 377 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:38,840 I like that. 378 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,320 It's, you know, in these elements, 379 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,120 they're, as long as it's not hurting you, 380 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,520 they're healthy to explore, you know, 381 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:51,180 and that's what I think is also sometimes hard for people. 382 00:35:51,180 --> 00:35:54,640 We are gonna get into redefining wealth in just a second, 383 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,440 but there's, in my experience, 384 00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,400 and this is my humble opinion, 385 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,040 the Spirit speaks to us in multiple ways, 386 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,360 but the two most common are in our heart and in our mind. 387 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,800 And so, and that feels and looks differently. 388 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,880 Men like to say in our gut, not in our heart. 389 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,040 I mean, I feel it in my gut. 390 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:17,120 People who are more masculine, 391 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,880 but so that's not the only entity 392 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,200 that speaks to both of those, right? 393 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,680 There's also an adversary that exists 394 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,200 that's meant to confuse us. 395 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:31,400 And sometimes I see lots of people who get married 396 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,280 and end up in extremely abusive relationships, 397 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,520 even people who claim they got their answer from God, 398 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,080 you know, and they prayed about it. 399 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,320 And I'm not saying they didn't get their answer. 400 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,060 It's not mine to judge the place, 401 00:36:43,060 --> 00:36:46,160 but what I do know is I've made plenty of choices in life 402 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,160 where I followed my heart while ignoring my mind. 403 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:54,480 And when I choose to ignore my logical promptings, 404 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:58,680 I'm usually, and they're hitting hard, you know, soft, 405 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:02,840 so, but they're soft voice, but it's like clear as day, 406 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,920 then I end up making a mistake, or on the flip side. 407 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,680 If something's so logical, it makes perfect sense, 408 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:12,400 but I can feel I'm not supposed to go that direction. 409 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:13,680 And I ignore that. 410 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:18,680 I end up putting myself at risk and ending up on a path 411 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:22,600 that wasn't as in tune with the direction 412 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:23,740 I should have been going. 413 00:37:23,740 --> 00:37:26,380 When I get an alignment of heart and mind, 414 00:37:26,380 --> 00:37:29,360 I know for a fact that that comes from God. 415 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,200 Again, my own humble interpretation of Scripture, 416 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,440 but that works for me. 417 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,120 And there's times where God wants us to take chances 418 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,760 and I'll use our own agency and move one way or the other 419 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:43,080 without exact knowledge of what he wants for us. 420 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,320 But anybody who's listening in, my hope for you 421 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,640 is that you realize that one, I brought Carissa on stage 422 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:54,360 because I value how much wisdom she brings with the Spirit. 423 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,520 And I value what she's doing to help guide people 424 00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:58,360 with the Scriptures. 425 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,320 And, you know, I hope that you take the opportunity 426 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,720 to really understand that that book 427 00:38:04,720 --> 00:38:07,320 that's been around for centuries, you know, 428 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,960 is has core concepts in it that if we take the time 429 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,760 to understand it, they can unlock clarity 430 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,560 for our path of success faster than anything else, 431 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,220 any other resource that we have access to. 432 00:38:20,220 --> 00:38:23,640 So Carissa, how are we redefining wealth today? 433 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,420 What does wealth mean to you? 434 00:38:30,300 --> 00:38:33,440 Wealth, I think to be redefined, 435 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,160 and this is probably not the answer you're looking for. 436 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:37,640 I don't have one I'm looking for to be honest. 437 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:38,680 You don't have one, all right. 438 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:39,520 No. 439 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,960 With women especially, I think wealth needs to be 440 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,800 in the hands of godly people. 441 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:50,960 This is God's design. 442 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,780 And when we have wealth in the hands of godly people, 443 00:38:54,780 --> 00:38:57,520 then beautiful things happen. 444 00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:01,480 We can all agree that sex trafficking is terrible, 445 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:05,400 that people in other countries who don't have clean access 446 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:10,400 to water is also, you know, a thing that shouldn't happen. 447 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:16,160 But what we can do as godly people who are wealthy 448 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:21,160 is we can showcase how God is, his, reflect his character 449 00:39:21,240 --> 00:39:24,460 in how we manage it and how we earn it, how we spend it, 450 00:39:24,460 --> 00:39:26,020 how we are generous. 451 00:39:26,020 --> 00:39:29,420 But we have the ability to be extremely generous 452 00:39:29,420 --> 00:39:33,200 in ways that bring his light and his redemption 453 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,480 into a world that's really dark sometimes. 454 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:41,480 And so I think that women, we need to have access to wealth 455 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:45,160 to be able to be that generous as well. 456 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,280 And then I think you also have wealth. 457 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:50,800 I mean, you can have all the money in the world 458 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,640 and you don't have the good relationships, 459 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:58,220 you don't have the peace, and you don't have the ability 460 00:39:58,220 --> 00:40:00,200 to actually enjoy that wealth. 461 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,480 And so we need to partner with God 462 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,000 in that we need to have walk with him 463 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,520 because he's the one who gives the wealth 464 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,280 and he's also the one who gives the ability 465 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,240 to enjoy the wealth and to have that peace. 466 00:40:12,240 --> 00:40:16,880 And so for me, having that wealth is a relationship 467 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:20,880 with God and having that overflow into our lives 468 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,360 and our relationships, our businesses, our finances 469 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:26,660 and our generosity. 470 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:29,680 Wow, okay. 471 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,960 I don't know what you thought I was looking for on it. 472 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:33,040 And I'm not gonna go there, 473 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:34,720 we're just gonna bury that topic 474 00:40:34,720 --> 00:40:36,280 because I love how you define this. 475 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,260 Redefining wealth means putting wealth 476 00:40:38,260 --> 00:40:40,860 in the hands of godly people. 477 00:40:40,860 --> 00:40:45,860 And so yes, as those who've found it in many sense, 478 00:40:46,720 --> 00:40:50,400 it's our responsibility to be that light on the hilltop, 479 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,160 to be the candle, to help people realize 480 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:53,800 where to go with the lighthouse. 481 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:58,800 And on the flip side, if you're a godly person, 482 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:02,640 which means you care about the things of God, 483 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:04,800 you seek after the things of God, 484 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,280 then it's important to, if you've been burying 485 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,140 your desire for wealth or you've been ignoring wealth 486 00:41:11,140 --> 00:41:15,840 and thinking it's a vice, when in reality it's a resource, 487 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:19,120 then you have an opportunity to say, you know what, 488 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:22,880 am I taking wealth in my hands, 489 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,160 realizing that there's an abundance of it. 490 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:28,440 I'm not taking it from anybody else, it's available. 491 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,200 And I need to exercise certain habits, 492 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,200 certain disciplines, certain mindsets 493 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:38,080 in order to move into benefiting from it 494 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,720 and of course multiplying it throughout the earth, 495 00:41:40,720 --> 00:41:42,420 as you mentioned earlier. 496 00:41:42,420 --> 00:41:45,320 Did I hit that right or did I go off course, your call? 497 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,360 You brought up a very good point. 498 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,560 There's a lot of people, Christian people, 499 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:56,560 especially women, especially who really shy away from wealth. 500 00:41:56,560 --> 00:42:00,000 And there's a narrative that it's better to be poor 501 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,200 and humble just like Christ was, 502 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:06,680 that his ministry was free, so we should have free services. 503 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:11,680 And when you aren't accessing the wealth that God intended, 504 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:17,080 as he intended, then what you're doing 505 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:21,440 is you're sitting back and letting people who are evil, 506 00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:25,600 who have wealth, continue on with their evil things, 507 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:26,440 evil deeds. 508 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:31,400 Yes, and we're not adequately building 509 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,040 in what we need to build. 510 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,680 Anybody, I don't agree with the whole 511 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:37,200 his ministry was free thing. 512 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,640 And I understand, I don't think you do either. 513 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:41,640 His ministry was not free. 514 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:43,880 I mean, this is a man who could tell Peter, 515 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,600 hey, there's a fish in the sea over there. 516 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:48,560 He's got a coin in his mouth, go get it 517 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,080 and go buy what you need with that. 518 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,920 That's extreme abundance and power. 519 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:55,440 The ability to turn water into wine, 520 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,280 the ability to take five loaves of bread 521 00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,680 and feed 5,000 people. 522 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,160 He had tapped into resources 523 00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:05,560 that we can't often even dream to imagine. 524 00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,520 Stories that we often, I hear a lot of people saying 525 00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,480 are fictional symbolisms that didn't actually happen. 526 00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,560 They're just meant to draw correlations, 527 00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:15,640 to justify the veracity of the Bible. 528 00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,520 And I'm like, no, those things happened. 529 00:43:20,240 --> 00:43:23,400 And miracles can happen to your life too, 530 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,400 unless you shut miracles down before they happen. 531 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,400 So I would boldly state that, no, no, 532 00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:32,880 he did not have a free ministry. 533 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:34,160 That's a misconception. 534 00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:36,120 Again, not one that you're proposing, 535 00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:39,520 but one that we're often, we need to talk about 536 00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,880 in the Christian circles and realize like, 537 00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:45,360 there's more to the depth of these stories 538 00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:48,080 that can unlock truth for us if we're willing to dive in. 539 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,640 So thank you for being willing to dive in today. 540 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:54,080 You're welcome, yes, and his ministry was not free. 541 00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:57,320 There was a huge price that had to be paid, 542 00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:58,360 huge cost to it. 543 00:43:58,360 --> 00:43:59,560 He paid for it. 544 00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:00,680 That too. 545 00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,200 And redemption is actually a financial term. 546 00:44:04,240 --> 00:44:06,640 That means somebody who had a ton of debt 547 00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:08,560 and never could pay it off. 548 00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:10,280 And somebody else comes and writes the check 549 00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:11,720 and says paid in full, 550 00:44:11,720 --> 00:44:14,040 and there is nothing else to be paid. 551 00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:18,720 And so when we realize that redemption is a financial term, 552 00:44:18,720 --> 00:44:21,240 this applies to our money story. 553 00:44:21,240 --> 00:44:24,280 This applies to any mistakes we've made around money 554 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,200 and how we handle it. 555 00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,840 But then also interestingly enough, 556 00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,320 it's mentioned several times that a group of women 557 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,760 supported Jesus's ministry. 558 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:34,600 Absolutely. 559 00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,440 And I'm sure men did too, but it doesn't say that. 560 00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:41,120 And so in that culture, you either had to be wealthy 561 00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,960 or you had to have a business as a woman 562 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,680 to be able to put that money into a ministry like that. 563 00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,280 So, well said. 564 00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,240 I'm really glad that you closed on 565 00:44:52,240 --> 00:44:55,160 the most important topic at hand, in my opinion. 566 00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:58,200 And that would be the atonement of Jesus Christ, 567 00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,160 his ultimate sacrifice for us. 568 00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:04,280 And you're right, he did pay the price 569 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:08,560 in ways that we have a hard time contemplating and imagining. 570 00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,760 We can't, but we can be grateful for the salvation 571 00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,400 that it's unlocked for mankind. 572 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,440 So thank you for turning to that 573 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,360 as the final thought process. 574 00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:23,360 Carissa, if people are inspired to work with you 575 00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,880 and take the next steps, where do you recommend they go 576 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:28,120 to connect with you? 577 00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:32,800 So I'm at multiply your legacy all over the internet, 578 00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:34,520 but I'd love to give you guys a free gift. 579 00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:37,360 If something has stirred you up and you're like, 580 00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,000 I wanna learn more, an excellent resource 581 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,320 is my Faith Field Abundance Guide. 582 00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:45,720 It's 13 Bible verses that will really help you think 583 00:45:45,720 --> 00:45:48,600 differently about money, think differently about business. 584 00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:49,680 And so you can get that at 585 00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:54,680 multiplyyourlegacy.com slash visionpro altogether. 586 00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:59,960 Multiplyyourlegacy.com slash visionpro. 587 00:45:59,960 --> 00:46:02,560 And that's my free gift to you guys. 588 00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:03,640 I love that. 589 00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:04,800 That's awesome, Vision Pros. 590 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,160 So let me drop that link in the comments 591 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:08,160 for everybody real quick. 592 00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,920 Cynthia might beat me to this as well, 593 00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,120 but we'll drop that into the comments, you have it. 594 00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,440 We'll also add that to the landing page. 595 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,520 So if you're watching this in the landing page format, 596 00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:18,920 you can just scroll down to the bottom. 597 00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:20,200 You can get access to that link 598 00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,640 and start studying the scriptures, 599 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:27,640 not from verse one through verse 1,000 billion, 600 00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:29,840 but going specifically to 13 verses 601 00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:31,600 that can help unlock your knowledge 602 00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:35,520 in terms of financial wealth and growing your business. 603 00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:37,120 Carissa, this has been an absolute honor 604 00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:38,320 to have you on the show. 605 00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:39,520 I appreciate you being here. 606 00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,160 And Vision Pros, if you have anything else 607 00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:43,320 that you need from either one of us, 608 00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:47,400 don't hesitate to comment with a question 609 00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,560 or an observation that you learned today. 610 00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,520 It might help somebody else to see that comment as well. 611 00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:55,200 And we will see you guys all in the next show. 612 00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:56,760 Thanks again for being here, Carissa. 613 00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:58,080 Thank you for having me. 614 00:46:58,080 --> 00:46:59,440 Thank you for being here today. 615 00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,920 I'm really happy that you tuned in to Vision Pros Live. 616 00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,560 I'm looking forward to seeing your reactions 617 00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:06,840 as these episodes continue to move forward. 618 00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:08,560 This is gonna get more and more fun. 619 00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,360 We'll have more and more engagement as well. 620 00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,440 We'll invite people to participate in the show. 621 00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:13,280 And thank you.