Christian female entrepreneurs. Christian females. And what's the number? What are we up to more or less?
So right now I've been able to impact about 2,300 women. That's awesome. That's amazing.
And so what types of activities do you do to impact? What are some of your favorite channels
to serve people? I love coaching. I am really gifted at coaching and I can really connect
the dots between the mindset struggles that they're having and scripture and help them
tie them together so that they can really make a huge shift that's lasting.
I love that. Do you have a favorite scripture? Oh, I have a lot. Probably Isaiah 61.
All right. Welcome in to Vision Pros Live with Jackson Calame. I'm your show host. We'll be doing
interviews for visionary entrepreneurs and guest leaders who are building fantastic visions out there.
Welcome to Vision Pros Live. I'm your host, Jackson Calame, founder and CEO of First Class Business.
I'm excited to have Carissa Cuade on today. She is on a mission to help serve 100,000, help serve
and impact 100,000 Christian women businesses. And I imagine there are plenty of male businesses,
businesses like mine that will be impacted by her as well as she goes about that service. So if you're
Christian and you're striving to grow your business and understand how business growth and finances
go hand in hand and are supported scripturally, this could be a phenomenal episode for you to
listen to. We're also going to talk about redefining wealth and what wealth means as a system of
abundance for our lives. Before we dive into that and we dive into Carissa's story more in depth,
I also want to give a shout out to some of the systems and tools and people that help
our growth at First Class Business. So ColdClick is the entity that we use for our LinkedIn
automation. With LinkedIn automation, why do we do it? One, we know that at the top of the business
funnel of marketing, there's this giant thing that people forget called distribution. And distribution
is supposed to be, again, the largest part of the funnel. You're supposed to be getting in front of
as many people as you can. That's what allows you to not force relationships. That's what allows you
to make sure that you are meeting people in abundance and then the right fruit comes along
at the right time and you can build a holistic relationship. We're not begging people to move
forward in business with you. So I'm really happy with what Art has built over at ColdClick,
how they help us avoid breaking the rules of the algorithm and make sure that, again,
we get in front of as many people as possible. There's another website up there at the top
called Simply Fast Websites. I've been very impressed with Shane Michael as a friend.
He's a young gun. He's got a long way to go with his business growth. And at the same time,
if I were starting my business today, he's probably who I would have turned to to get my website done.
Yeah, I could build on Squarespace and get some context or concepts of what I want. I could build
on Wix or other free platforms to build it out. But when I saw that he was offering websites at
$179, I was like, oh my gosh, I spent thousands on my first few websites. I was like, this is amazing
that he wants. And he's got this. He seems to have a heart of gold. I say seems because I'm very
careful in my relationships. You know, and I know that everybody on earth has just as many problems
as they do victories. We're all sinners. We're all saints. So I don't I don't know Shane well enough
to just say, man, he's exactly who I go with. But he's certainly somebody whose name I would put in
the bucket. If you're in that beginning stage of building a business and you're trying to understand
how to launch your website, then I would highly recommend checking out Simply Fast Websites and
what he's up to and see if it's something that you can support. Then there's the Water Project.
The Water Project is my favorite charity to talk about. And that's simply because I just can't take
for granted the fact that I have access to water every single day, every single moment that I want
it. And there's people in the world who don't. And that kind of drives me crazy. And so if we have
the ability to give $1 or if you have the ability to just reshare this message and help people
understand that you can give back in a meaningful way, imagine the generational impact that you can
make by helping that community get access to clean drinking water, where it's taking time for them
being able to go to school. It's taking time from them being able to provide for their families.
They're usually going to water sources 30 minute walking 30 minutes to get to a water source. And
that water source may not be sanitary as well. And then there's, of course, the community fighting
that can occur when there's a line for a water source. And you have to wait and you're worried
about your sick family at home, et cetera. I mean, I know it's heavy. I know that's deep.
But this world is full of heavy and deep that we sometimes ignore. I don't think we should.
So you have the opportunity to see the transformation take place thanks to what the
Water Project does in terms of giving you updates of what they've used your funding for.
I think it's very neat. If you have a cause that you'd like to see a support in addition to this,
don't hesitate to drop that in the comments, please, because I'd love to see it. And I'd love
to be an advocate for any cause out there where we can help the 8 billion in the world who need it.
So without further ado, I'm going to bring one person on who's doing just that in massive ways
for you, the listener, those who are entrepreneurs, those who are Christian or understand the value of
Christian values. There's a lot of content we'll be discussing today that should be
extremely beneficial to you. So Carissa, thank you so much for joining me on Vision Pros Live.
I'm happy to have you today. Thank you. And I love your vision for the
partnering with the Water Project. I think that's what it's all about with business is to have
a business that is successful so that you can go and fund those projects. So I love it.
Thank you. I appreciate that. Oh, man. Doubling down. Woo. Got a live support around us.
So good stuff. Well, Carissa, if you could help me define for those who are listening a little bit
better, who do you feel should be listening today? And beyond the 2400 business owners that you've
already helped with massive impact, who, you know, why should they be listening to you? What is it
that qualifies you to guide them on finances, entrepreneurship and wealth? Well, I serve Christian
female business owners and entrepreneurs. And the reason why I think they should listen to me is
because really my own struggles with money and, you know, just I had a lot of fear around money.
I had a lot of anxiety around money. In fact, it got so bad that one night I was on the couch. It
was 2 a.m. And every muscle is aching with fear. And all I could think was, why can't I make more
money? And why do I feel so guilty for wanting to make money? If I didn't make more money in my
business, I couldn't provide for my family. I couldn't put my husband through school. And I
felt like no matter how much I made, it was never enough. And I was never enough. I was thinking
about money all the time. Was I being greedy and selfish? I mean, just like many of you, I've
struggled with carrying so much shame and guilt around money. For me, it was a fear of making
money into an idol for you. It might be guilt you're successful when others aren't and doubting your
value in the marketplace or a fear no one will buy. Whatever it is, especially with Christian women,
we all struggle with money. And so I began to study everything the Bible said about money. And over
time, I learned a lot of principles that really shifted my view of money. And so that's what I
bring to the table, how I can serve other people. I love that. To correlate that, one of the best
health coaches I've ever met, Mano Most Influential, is a lady, I'm actually not going to mention her
name because I want to steal your thunder. I want to build on what you just said. But
she is not a qualified health practitioner. She is not trained on nutrition. She had a binge eating
disorder problem. And she knows what it's like to be there. And because of that, she has this
passion about her that inspires people to move the needle forward. And she makes a lot of very
certified people upset. But at the same time, she changes lives. And I think that's amazing. And so
you're putting that into action as well. You mentioned something that really you talked about,
why can I make more money? Why do I feel this guilt? But then you also revealed something
vulnerable that I think so many people would shy away from. You said, and I want to put my husband
through school. Some people would judge that from the outside and say, well, wait a second,
he's the provider. Wait a second. Why is that responsibility for you to go through school?
To put him through school. We live in a world that takes extremes and runs with them in very
unhealthy ways. Can you quantify that for us? What makes you feel responsible to do that? What
drives you to do that? How does that work? Well, that was a no. And I appreciate the question. And
this was a decision that when we got married, he was in the middle of school. And we agreed that I
would work. And this it's all done and over with now. I was able to save up $79,775 over time to
pay cash for his education. But the thing that you're right, there is a lot of comments that
are made when you have a family who makes that type of decision like we did. And I got all kinds
of comments on, shouldn't he be providing? Shouldn't he be the one working? And that's
part of the reason I struggled with being a business owner and having a successful business.
And, you know, because of mainly how I grew up, the culture around me, the people who were saying
that, you know, you should just be staying home and let him work. And I really wrestled with that.
And, you know, is that okay for me as a woman to be out there making money to be in business?
You know, I had to support my family for a while. Was this okay? And what I found in the Bible was
God has given us both men and women, the command to be fruitful and to multiply, which is financial
terms. It's not just having more kids. And we are both tasked with serving business, partnering in
business to serve other people, partnering with God, serve other people, solve their problems and
make their lives better. And that is business. And in exchange, God created money to be used in
exchange. So when I serve somebody, you know, selling is serving and loving because I'm solving
a problem for them. And in exchange, paying is Thanksgiving because now they're grateful to have
that problem solved. And so we both, men and women, have been tasked with this. Yeah. I love that.
Super, super powerful. It also says to replenish the earth, right? Not replenish the crib. But at
the same time, it's okay. Like we are supposed to have children and all that too, but replenishing
the earth means we're supposed to be taking care of this earth and the people within it, which also
alludes to the fact that finances, resources are an important way to do that. You also talked about
the people who had their opinions, right? A lot of them had probably great opinions, but I think
it's important to remember like the crowd will always be louder than Christ. We live in a society
where the majority vote, you know, is how we go about things for society. But that's not necessarily
how we should be measuring what type of advice we should take for our spiritual journey. You know,
it's not a popularity contest in that regard. Well, there's a lot of Bible verses that are
actually taken out of context when you talk about money. And there's a handful of them that are
quoted, you know, it's easier for camel to go through the eye of a needle than a rich person
to enter into heaven, sell all you have to the poor. And these verses, what I've seen in my last
13 years of study are a lot of times taken out of context and used to keep women, especially
paralyzed by fear and shame.
And you're right. I hope we have time to get into some of those verses and break them down. That's
one of my favorites, by the way. So probably tag team that a little bit. But before we do that,
let's talk about your vision for those that you serve, just to expand even further. I imagine,
you know, you talked about the aches and pains that you felt. And I'm I think of my sisters,
I got five sisters. So I think of some of them. And what I know they go through with their own
who the burdens they carry on their shoulders to lift the world. What are what is it? Were you
hoping to see these women these hundred thousand women get to at the end of their journey or
throughout their journey?
Well, what I love and I'm so passionate about is just I see God's love for women.
Just I see God's design is he has created women, especially to be extremely generous and to really
care about the entire community and lifting the entire community up. In fact, it's been proven
that female entrepreneurs who are millionaires are far more generous than males are in their same
demographic. And when you apply Christian values and the desire to really see God's kingdom come
and just people being benefited and their lives being changed, they have such a heart to get rid
of like a lot of the evil that's in the world that's being funded by money. And so you have all of
that is already in them. But then they're really wrestling with money and with being in business
and if this is OK. And so what I love to do is teaching them how to tap into the power of
scripture, actually understand God's heart for money, understand God's heart for business and
how he's equipped them so that they can go out and from every step of the way, from how you
sell and how you bring in money, how you manage the money, how you provide for your family,
how you're generous. This all puts God on display in ways that everybody else will see how blessed
you are and that they will be drawn to know God because of the generous God that you serve.
And so that's my heart for these hundred thousand women is if I can help them tap into the power of
scripture to understand what God says about money, about business, about selling, and they can have
this shift, they're going to impact so many people, Jackson, their family, their community,
the world for generations to come. And that's what I'm most excited about. That's what I know is
possible. And we just have to get the mindsets done in line with scripture. We have to get their
businesses flourishing so that they can do that. That's amazing. And you see the you see these women
experiencing that transition. How does that transform them personally?
I love seeing them. I do most of my work online. And so I get to see from week to week,
literally their countenance changes and their physical appearance change because all of this
bondage around money, all of these, the shame and the guilt and the fear, everything, it just starts
falling off. And so they are just more radiant through the screen. And they're making so many,
they're able to come home. And now their family dynamics around money change because when you're
not stressed out about money, everyone's happier. Right. And then they're impacting, they're able to
go out there more confidently and enroll more clients. And they really have a bigger, bigger
impact on each of their clients that they're able to serve and provide the service in such a way that
doesn't like doesn't get tied up in like, am I good enough? Is this okay? Is this what are they
going to think about me charging, but they're able to serve freely. Right. And so now they're
everyone who interacts with that client is now impacted as well. And so it just is such a huge
ripple effect. And I can't even really quantify how much of an impact it makes. Absolutely. I love
that. I thought you did a really good job of quantifying and painting the vision of that. So
thank you. What about you? What's your vision for yourself? And this can be your vision in the next
five months. It could be a vision in the next 50 years, 500 years, your call. Well, right now,
my main vision is serving the a hundred thousand women in the next nine years by 2032. And I just
want to be able to have a business. I've grown my business from the ground up, but I think I would
like to invest in maybe buying some local businesses and improve their marketing and improve their
ability. Cause I don't want to do all the building up, but I think there's a lot of opportunities
for us to really invest in our communities. Cause there's a lot of business owners that are
retiring and their families don't want to take on their business. And so there's a lot of
opportunities for us to already come into a business that is, you know, they have a good
customer base, they have a good profit base, but maybe they don't have the online marketing skills.
Maybe they don't have the technology. And so that's kind of a, besides a hundred thousand, you know,
investing into my local community and businesses. Very smart. I had another guest who talked about,
I think it was, he's only done a pre-show with us, but he did a, he talked about the baby boomers
and how they're retiring like crazy right now. A lot of them are wanting to off, you know, like to
figure out what do I do with my business? I mean, how do I, how do I make money on that?
How do I make money on the sell of this? I also have a friend who bought a bakery and they were
just, they were good. They were ready to move on. They had built a great foundation of, of savings
for themselves. And he was able to buy the bakery at the, with a monthly payment that was, that was
almost the exact same as they were already generating for income. And so he didn't have
to pay for the business out of his own pocket. He was able to maintain. And then he just made a few
quick tweaks to make sure customer service improved a little bit. And now they're gaining
10% profit. And so he bought a business without using any of his own money. And there's lots of
opportunities like that, that you're, you're, I'm sure you're teaching business owners about.
And it's, it's helpful to be part of a community and mastermind where you've got lots of similar
people. I think it's awesome that you built a business model around people who are so similar
to you. And, you know, why would you not want to do that with your time? You know?
I mean, that's who I can speak the language, the easiest, I can connect with them the most. And
that's what the one thing that I do bring is that connection, because like you were saying about
that health coach, not all of us have the business background, but we have the personal victory and
overcoming. And that empathy can really connect with clients and really be able to serve them on
a powerful level. Absolutely. Some of these, some of these individuals are going to face some very
dark times as they build. I mean, nobody's immune to it, not Job, not anybody else. So what, what
has been your worst business experience ever, or one that you've assisted somebody through?
Well, personally, I, you know, there's in the early days, I invested a lot of money. I didn't
have the business strategy. I've had my own business, but it's been a service based business.
And that was a lot easier to build because I was in high demand, but then building an online
business, you know, so there's a lot of time of investing into the business and not seeing it all
work out like you wanted it to. And then just really struggling, like, is, is this really what
God has called me to do? Am I cut out for this? And I know a lot of my clients really struggle
with that too. But when you talk about money, a lot of things come up. And I have clients, you know,
even today we were talking about increasing prices and expanding our businesses. And what came up was
some very personal things, very heavy things that they had been dealing with related to money that
wasn't really quite on raising prices. I mean, that was the question that started us off. And so I do
a lot of really looking at where does that root come from? Whatever is going on like that, that
feeling, that guilt, that shame, where does that come from? And usually it's an experience that
you've had when you were younger, something that other people have done to you. And so we need to
work through a process of forgiving them and, and also ourselves, and then also seeing what God
actually says and then reframing that so that they can move forward in peace and freedom.
Well said. We only stop learning when we choose to, you know? And so I was doing an exercise on this
just two weeks ago. And in the journaling activity, I came to realize that when I won in sports,
I was never celebrated. I was always the enemy, you know, and, and I didn't have a healthy group
of friends in that regard. We had lots of great things in our friendships, but in that regard,
you know, if I won, man, it was, it was, it was everybody else lost. And that, you know, when you,
when you discover that at 36 and you can unlock and say, okay, well, how's that affecting me in
today's relationships? You know, it helps you climb the mountain to new heights. You start to realize
like, okay, I can win and other people win too. And I can find relationships with people who also
want to see me win. I don't have to work with people who see my victories as a threat to their
victories. So I'm glad that you, you brought that up and that, you know, the mindset opportunities
for growth. Let's talk about your best experience in business. So out of all the many things you've
accomplished, what is, what's the one that comes to mind that you're just like, oh my gosh, I'm so
happy this happened. You know, I never saw myself coaching and teaching people what I've learned.
And so to have all of my own struggles for a lot of years, and then the time I've really put into
studying what the Bible says about money and about wealth and about business, and now to be able to
sit here and share it with somebody else and see that transformation that happens that I already
mentioned, see that ripple effect of impact and generosity. I'm just so humbled that I get to do
this. I absolutely love what I do. And I'm just so grateful for this opportunity. I love that. And
I, and it's cool as I see that, you know, if you go to, if you go to your website, we can see how
that's manifested itself and how it's alive and well. So we'll take a look at that while we dive
into the next question, but I had to pull that out because you got a lovely brand, you know,
that's very clear and precise in what you do. You can see the joy in your photos. You know,
I see it in your countenance on the live podcast as well. And then there's just all these elements
have built onto each other in such a way that show the depth of your growth as you've learned
and you've applied it. And then you've now learned how to teach it to others. It's just,
it's just very clear to me. So with, with, and I'm glad you, you hit that as the best experience.
What powerful lesson, if there's only one lesson you could share from other visionaries
who want to learn from your experience, what would it be?
I would say the biggest lesson is that there is a lot of answers in scripture.
If you're struggling with mindsets around money or mindsets around selling mindsets around business.
And for me, the, this is where I've had the lasting transformation for myself and for my clients,
where I actually can move forward in having, like you said, that joy and having that peace
that I never had before. And it's changed my life so much that I would just encourage you,
if this is something that you have been trying other money mindset work, other coaches,
and something is still missing, I think it's scripture. I think it's the power of scripture
to actually transform your money blocks into abundance so that you can create a flourishing business.
I love that. It's something that I have been repenting of quite a bit, actually. And I'm a
big fan of talking about prayer and prayer as the resource. I've heard, and it's somewhat true,
when we speak to God, we pray when God speaks to us, you know, we read the scriptures,
so that He speaks to us. And I don't talk about it with my entrepreneurs enough, you know,
and it's probably because I also don't do it enough in terms of reading my scriptures.
But I did start reading the Old Testament and got myself on a track where I'll read it within six
months. And I don't know, it's like six to eight chapters a day. And I'm on a section right now
where Jacob and Laban have had this discussion over their flocks and what Jacob, you know,
Jacob will basically, what I understood was, will take the broken animals, the less desirable
animals, and then he ends up with this amazing flock because of some different things that he
does, blah, blah, blah. But it was a really interesting, I was like, man, there is so much
correlation with business negotiations, you know, and there's so much you can learn from this story
about two people negotiating, getting into a struggle with each other, you know, literally
like chasing each other down, you know, and like blaming each other for all sorts of things and
how they go about their conflict resolution. It's just amazing, like you said, how
applicable all the different stories and opportunities are when you actually take the time to study it.
And if you also know how to interpret it or know how to seek somebody who knows how to interpret it.
And that can get a little sticky, but that's where, to me, the prayer comes into play.
You know, like staying really close to your relationship with God, otherwise you can end up,
you know, kind of, you can misinterpret the knowledge, so to speak. Well, I would love to
hear you just speak on that. What are your thoughts? How do you go about guiding people
as they dive into scripture? You know, I've spent a lot of years just diving into this particular
topic, and there are over 2000 verses around money, but there's also a whole lot of
more, like that story that you were just mentioning that also has talks about money and talks about wealth,
but it doesn't actually mention it and or state it directly. And so you have to really understand
what the Bible says. So I do a lot of, I mean, I share a lot of scriptures in my programs,
and I have people who are like, Oh, I love your stuff, but can you not share any scriptures? And
I'm like, Well, have you seen my PowerPoints? Because I just did one and it had like two pages
of references in there. And so when you have to know like the historical context and the
background to that's really helpful. I've done a lot of word studies, I've done a lot of
looking at Jewish historical context and ideas and on how things mean and what they mean.
And it's just a lot of studying. But if you go through it so quickly, you don't always know
that that actually relates to money or to business. And so you might just skip over it completely.
And so it's really taking the time to just break these things down to I left each and so I'm
actually able to take these scriptures and say this one connects here. This one is the
is talking about, you know, for example, like the land is often used as a symbol for business.
And so when you have God saying, I want to bless you, and I want to take you into this land
with the vines and the olive trees and the grain, the flocks and the herds. Those are all different
types of businesses. Yeah. But we have to have the responsibility to tend it and to nurture and to
cultivate it. Otherwise, it's not going to bring bring any profit in. Right. So you have to
understand all of this. And it's either a lot of study on your own a lot of, you know, resources
and having the discernment to say, is this really what God is actually saying? Or is it what somebody
is saying? And you know, you have to know the scriptures to be able to be to define which one
is true. I love that. Yeah. And to know the scriptures, you have to participate, right? You
have to be willing to make mistakes to in the process and set it you go aside and learn just
like learning a language. It's it's really it's no different. It is language. And it's a different
language, especially if you're reading an older version of the Bible. And so you have to be
willing to find a sense of calm in your life. You know, make time for calm and make time for
slowing down to get those realities. I speak Spanish fluently. The Bible is not a language
that you can learn from. It's a language that you can learn from. And so you have to be willing to
find a sense of calm in your life. And so you have to be willing to find a sense of calm in your life.
I speak Spanish fluently, the Bible is not the same in Spanish as it is in English. People don't
realize that there's a lot of hardcore certain types of Christians that want to want to say,
it's all perfect, you know, or it's all translated perfectly. And the context of the message is,
but there are definite, there are definite discrepancies between different languages.
knowing how to deal with that.
I mean, how do I interpret that?
How do I use comprehensive analysis skills,
comprehension analysis skills to gather
what I'm supposed to gather out of the stories?
It can feel overwhelming,
but that's where you need to come.
Realize you're in a good place, you're learning,
and always, hopefully with the spirit on this,
and then it's amazing what,
you'll get the answers that you need for yourself
if you learn to trust your heart and mind.
What else would you add to that, Carissa?
Or take away, feel free to.
Well, and what I see is when women,
I mean, that's who I work with,
when they're like, okay, I'm gonna actually learn
what the Bible says about money
and shift all these things,
I see that God is bringing clarity and bringing wisdom
and bringing just even a fruitful abundance
with more clients or being able to have the confidence
to raise your rates and doing this all very, very quickly.
So while some of us have had to go through
the whole many, many years of studying it,
it doesn't always work that,
it doesn't have to take that long.
It can happen a lot faster.
It's just, you really need to find somebody
who is well-versed in scripture, who can guide you,
and who can explain these things,
because if you just read over some of these passages,
you don't know without diving into it a lot deeper.
Well said.
I mean, and that's where, again,
so how do you recognize somebody who is that guide?
How do you know a person's the right guide or not?
In a book full of warnings about wolves and sheep's clothing,
how do you go about recognizing the guides?
Well, are they speaking biblical truth?
That's of, you know-
It's hard to know if you can't interpret it.
That's true.
So, and I'm not trying to challenge you
as much as, again, expose the reality that, you know,
there are mechanisms to help us,
and just trying to explore those in depth
for somebody who may not know
what to accept as truth and not.
Well, and you have to use your discernment.
I mean, the Holy Spirit gives us a check in our spirit
of, for example, the women that I work with,
you know, anytime like woo woo, manifesting money,
or even prosperity gospel comes up, they're like,
eh, I don't wanna have anything to do with it.
It doesn't sit right.
Now there's pieces of it that are true,
but that's also taken a left-hand turn
and gone a different way than what God has intended.
And so if you have those checks in your spirit,
that's an indication, like, something's not right here.
Maybe I need to look deeper.
Maybe I need to look for somebody else.
And when you see the scriptures being presented in truth,
your spirit resonates with that.
Yeah.
I like that.
It's, you know, in these elements,
they're, as long as it's not hurting you,
they're healthy to explore, you know,
and that's what I think is also sometimes hard for people.
We are gonna get into redefining wealth in just a second,
but there's, in my experience,
and this is my humble opinion,
the Spirit speaks to us in multiple ways,
but the two most common are in our heart and in our mind.
And so, and that feels and looks differently.
Men like to say in our gut, not in our heart.
I mean, I feel it in my gut.
People who are more masculine,
but so that's not the only entity
that speaks to both of those, right?
There's also an adversary that exists
that's meant to confuse us.
And sometimes I see lots of people who get married
and end up in extremely abusive relationships,
even people who claim they got their answer from God,
you know, and they prayed about it.
And I'm not saying they didn't get their answer.
It's not mine to judge the place,
but what I do know is I've made plenty of choices in life
where I followed my heart while ignoring my mind.
And when I choose to ignore my logical promptings,
I'm usually, and they're hitting hard, you know, soft,
so, but they're soft voice, but it's like clear as day,
then I end up making a mistake, or on the flip side.
If something's so logical, it makes perfect sense,
but I can feel I'm not supposed to go that direction.
And I ignore that.
I end up putting myself at risk and ending up on a path
that wasn't as in tune with the direction
I should have been going.
When I get an alignment of heart and mind,
I know for a fact that that comes from God.
Again, my own humble interpretation of Scripture,
but that works for me.
And there's times where God wants us to take chances
and I'll use our own agency and move one way or the other
without exact knowledge of what he wants for us.
But anybody who's listening in, my hope for you
is that you realize that one, I brought Carissa on stage
because I value how much wisdom she brings with the Spirit.
And I value what she's doing to help guide people
with the Scriptures.
And, you know, I hope that you take the opportunity
to really understand that that book
that's been around for centuries, you know,
is has core concepts in it that if we take the time
to understand it, they can unlock clarity
for our path of success faster than anything else,
any other resource that we have access to.
So Carissa, how are we redefining wealth today?
What does wealth mean to you?
Wealth, I think to be redefined,
and this is probably not the answer you're looking for.
I don't have one I'm looking for to be honest.
You don't have one, all right.
No.
With women especially, I think wealth needs to be
in the hands of godly people.
This is God's design.
And when we have wealth in the hands of godly people,
then beautiful things happen.
We can all agree that sex trafficking is terrible,
that people in other countries who don't have clean access
to water is also, you know, a thing that shouldn't happen.
But what we can do as godly people who are wealthy
is we can showcase how God is, his, reflect his character
in how we manage it and how we earn it, how we spend it,
how we are generous.
But we have the ability to be extremely generous
in ways that bring his light and his redemption
into a world that's really dark sometimes.
And so I think that women, we need to have access to wealth
to be able to be that generous as well.
And then I think you also have wealth.
I mean, you can have all the money in the world
and you don't have the good relationships,
you don't have the peace, and you don't have the ability
to actually enjoy that wealth.
And so we need to partner with God
in that we need to have walk with him
because he's the one who gives the wealth
and he's also the one who gives the ability
to enjoy the wealth and to have that peace.
And so for me, having that wealth is a relationship
with God and having that overflow into our lives
and our relationships, our businesses, our finances
and our generosity.
Wow, okay.
I don't know what you thought I was looking for on it.
And I'm not gonna go there,
we're just gonna bury that topic
because I love how you define this.
Redefining wealth means putting wealth
in the hands of godly people.
And so yes, as those who've found it in many sense,
it's our responsibility to be that light on the hilltop,
to be the candle, to help people realize
where to go with the lighthouse.
And on the flip side, if you're a godly person,
which means you care about the things of God,
you seek after the things of God,
then it's important to, if you've been burying
your desire for wealth or you've been ignoring wealth
and thinking it's a vice, when in reality it's a resource,
then you have an opportunity to say, you know what,
am I taking wealth in my hands,
realizing that there's an abundance of it.
I'm not taking it from anybody else, it's available.
And I need to exercise certain habits,
certain disciplines, certain mindsets
in order to move into benefiting from it
and of course multiplying it throughout the earth,
as you mentioned earlier.
Did I hit that right or did I go off course, your call?
You brought up a very good point.
There's a lot of people, Christian people,
especially women, especially who really shy away from wealth.
And there's a narrative that it's better to be poor
and humble just like Christ was,
that his ministry was free, so we should have free services.
And when you aren't accessing the wealth that God intended,
as he intended, then what you're doing
is you're sitting back and letting people who are evil,
who have wealth, continue on with their evil things,
evil deeds.
Yes, and we're not adequately building
in what we need to build.
Anybody, I don't agree with the whole
his ministry was free thing.
And I understand, I don't think you do either.
His ministry was not free.
I mean, this is a man who could tell Peter,
hey, there's a fish in the sea over there.
He's got a coin in his mouth, go get it
and go buy what you need with that.
That's extreme abundance and power.
The ability to turn water into wine,
the ability to take five loaves of bread
and feed 5,000 people.
He had tapped into resources
that we can't often even dream to imagine.
Stories that we often, I hear a lot of people saying
are fictional symbolisms that didn't actually happen.
They're just meant to draw correlations,
to justify the veracity of the Bible.
And I'm like, no, those things happened.
And miracles can happen to your life too,
unless you shut miracles down before they happen.
So I would boldly state that, no, no,
he did not have a free ministry.
That's a misconception.
Again, not one that you're proposing,
but one that we're often, we need to talk about
in the Christian circles and realize like,
there's more to the depth of these stories
that can unlock truth for us if we're willing to dive in.
So thank you for being willing to dive in today.
You're welcome, yes, and his ministry was not free.
There was a huge price that had to be paid,
huge cost to it.
He paid for it.
That too.
And redemption is actually a financial term.
That means somebody who had a ton of debt
and never could pay it off.
And somebody else comes and writes the check
and says paid in full,
and there is nothing else to be paid.
And so when we realize that redemption is a financial term,
this applies to our money story.
This applies to any mistakes we've made around money
and how we handle it.
But then also interestingly enough,
it's mentioned several times that a group of women
supported Jesus's ministry.
Absolutely.
And I'm sure men did too, but it doesn't say that.
And so in that culture, you either had to be wealthy
or you had to have a business as a woman
to be able to put that money into a ministry like that.
So, well said.
I'm really glad that you closed on
the most important topic at hand, in my opinion.
And that would be the atonement of Jesus Christ,
his ultimate sacrifice for us.
And you're right, he did pay the price
in ways that we have a hard time contemplating and imagining.
We can't, but we can be grateful for the salvation
that it's unlocked for mankind.
So thank you for turning to that
as the final thought process.
Carissa, if people are inspired to work with you
and take the next steps, where do you recommend they go
to connect with you?
So I'm at multiply your legacy all over the internet,
but I'd love to give you guys a free gift.
If something has stirred you up and you're like,
I wanna learn more, an excellent resource
is my Faith Field Abundance Guide.
It's 13 Bible verses that will really help you think
differently about money, think differently about business.
And so you can get that at
multiplyyourlegacy.com slash visionpro altogether.
Multiplyyourlegacy.com slash visionpro.
And that's my free gift to you guys.
I love that.
That's awesome, Vision Pros.
So let me drop that link in the comments
for everybody real quick.
Cynthia might beat me to this as well,
but we'll drop that into the comments, you have it.
We'll also add that to the landing page.
So if you're watching this in the landing page format,
you can just scroll down to the bottom.
You can get access to that link
and start studying the scriptures,
not from verse one through verse 1,000 billion,
but going specifically to 13 verses
that can help unlock your knowledge
in terms of financial wealth and growing your business.
Carissa, this has been an absolute honor
to have you on the show.
I appreciate you being here.
And Vision Pros, if you have anything else
that you need from either one of us,
don't hesitate to comment with a question
or an observation that you learned today.
It might help somebody else to see that comment as well.
And we will see you guys all in the next show.
Thanks again for being here, Carissa.
Thank you for having me.
Thank you for being here today.
I'm really happy that you tuned in to Vision Pros Live.
I'm looking forward to seeing your reactions
as these episodes continue to move forward.
This is gonna get more and more fun.
We'll have more and more engagement as well.
We'll invite people to participate in the show.
And thank you.