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Welcome in to Vision Pros Live.

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I'm Jackson Calame.

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I'm your show host.

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We will be doing interviews for visionary entrepreneurs and guest leaders who are building

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fantastic visions out there.

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Ultimately, I just want to go through some of the things that might help you with your

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If you have a vision that you're pursuing, drop a link in the comments and let us know

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what that is.

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If that's a business or a brand, if it's a nonprofit that you run, be happy to promote

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it, be happy to talk to you about it.

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And if you'd like to apply to be on Vision Pros and be interviewed about that vision,

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then by all means, feel free to reach out.

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Hey hey and welcome in Vision Pros.

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I'm your host, Jackson Calame, first class business founder, the co-founder of Able

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Health and the CEO of Pod Booker.

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We're going to be diving into a topic that I just see so many business owners struggling

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with and that's how do I invest in my brand properly, marketing, advertising?

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What am I supposed to do?

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What channels do I put my money towards?

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I put it towards Facebook or LinkedIn, et cetera.

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There's so much research that needs to be done on the front end the right way in order

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to make sure that you're moving forward correctly or you need to find the right strategic partner

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to help guide you on that.

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My hope is today that I'll walk you through some systems that will help you understand

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how to gain clarity on this subject that is one that people don't want to talk about.

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It's a tough conversation to have.

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And so why is it a tough conversation?

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Because you got to, as a provider of services, you have to constantly walk this balancing

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act of what do I say that's not going to offend this person, but it's also going to inspire

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them to move forward.

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And especially around a subject that's so controversial because there's so many mainstream

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ideas that are talked about that could be followed in order to grow your brand.

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But most of them are bogus.

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Most of them are based on variables that don't pertain to your brand.

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Should you be on TikTok?

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Well, Bill Gates went on TikTok.

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He's got he can win on almost any platform with how far and wide he's well known.

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But what about your newer brands?

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If you're a brand new entity, what should you be doing to draw buzz and attract people

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to work with you?

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And when it comes to testimonials and case studies, do you have them?

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And does that matter to you?

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Are you good enough at selling that you don't need those aspects as part of your brand to

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There are so many things that people have a tough time talking about and don't want

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to hear.

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But, you know, I'm going to say this, he that has ears, come here.

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He that has eyes, let him see.

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We're going to dive in and this is going to be an application based session.

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So whatever you hear today, if you're listening to the episode, know that there's a video

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that goes along with this where I'm actually showcasing the materials that we use to qualify

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to pre-qualified clients and make sure that they are ready to scale their businesses without

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these assets.

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We will not grow a business.

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We don't want to.

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We don't want to grow business unethically.

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We want to grow businesses that are set up for scale.

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sure that they're ready to move forward.

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But we also don't want to spend money before forecasting how much money we're going to

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And if we don't know that, then why are we spending money to begin with?

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You should calculate all this in advance.

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That way you're not wasting any money whatsoever.

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So Jaime is going to drop a link in the comments right now.

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This is going to be a free gift to you.

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It's our $99 revenue growth workbook intensive, which comes with a workbook and a seven minute

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video from me where I explained that we use this tool to launch all of the viral video

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ad campaigns that we launched at Video Power Marketing.

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It's a phenomenal tool.

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We would have never run a campaign without running a client through that process.

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It didn't matter if it was Nordic Track or Vivint or John Lee Dumas or Michael Hyatt,

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T. Harvacher and everybody that we worked with.

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So the revenue growth workbook intensive, when you click on this link, we're going to

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That's going to get you in there and you'll be able to use the workbook that I'm going

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We're going to use this 45 minutes to show you, all right, for working with a brand new

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entity, what types of questions that we need to ask responsibly in order to help that entity

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So let's go right into the revenue growth workbook.

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Now I've hidden the first page, the organization page where we ask questions about the brand

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type of scope of work we can put together for an entity we're working with.

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Let's also just breeze through the blueprint itself, right, because most of you know this

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page that should be even more attractive, that drives people to convert or opt into

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an offer where they then land on a thank you page where you honor them for having opted

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in and you should have an email series that nurtures people to consider buying from you.

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see the value and it's really easy.

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actual live workbook I'm going to be working on.

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to a calculator that intimidated me big time the first time I saw it.

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They don't want to admit it, but they don't know how to use the calculators and how to

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use the spreadsheets as well as they could.

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have a marketer working for you who's also intimidated by this, or you have somebody

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on your team who needs to understand how this value gets broken down.

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over how to set up what type of value you're going to get from your customers.

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outlined what is the income from one experience with a client, what is the lifetime value

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of the income and how do you project your net profit so that you know that from the

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information and you're trying to win in business, you are likely to set yourself up for extreme

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failure and we don't want that for our businesses.

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to look at this from that tough conversation standpoint.

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of consulting services because there's quite a large profit margin on those services.

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coaching package by the amount of hours you put in.

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of goods sold, which we do with our clients, or how to understand how to increase your

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profit margins and also simultaneously increase the value that you provide.

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that's much more along the lines of accurate than knowing that you're going to get a $60

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If I'm talking way over your head as a business owner, if you want to become a wise steward

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They're not condescending at you.

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We're trying to help you understand what you're doing.

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You got zero customers based on what happened here.

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You did get 3,000 views, but you didn't close anybody yet, and so therefore you had zero

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return.

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Well, that means that you lost $500.

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What I see most business owners do in this case is they shut their Facebook ads down.

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And in many cases, they blame Facebook.

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And they say Facebook's the problem and that Facebook didn't work.

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And they have no idea just how close they got to winning because they're not mathematicians.

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And that's OK.

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We don't expect you to be a mathematician, but we do expect you to work with people who

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are and work with people who do like to figure these things out.

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Because if this one business owner, if this business owner just spent $40 more, but they

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would have realized that they had a profitable funnel.

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You see this?

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Now I spent $540.

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The key difference maker was I had to get enough lead conversions in in order to convert

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one customer.

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But now that I have, I've made a $2,000 return on a $540 spend.

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That's a 370% return on ad spend.

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Now again, in isolation, I see so many advertisers be like, well, that's it.

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Now you should scale in and just believe me from here and let's move forward.

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I don't like that approach.

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It's just not it's not cool to me.

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There's too much that the business owner needs to understand about the variables here.

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If I were to spend $700, watch what happens to the return on ad spend.

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It goes down and it goes down quite considerably.

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Because I've spent more on ads, but I've still only maintained the one conversion because

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of the way the metrics work out.

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So I did not have a true 370% return on ad spend because I wasn't done spending money

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and I'm not satisfied with just one customer.

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I've got to figure out how do I get repeat customers and what's it going to cost me to

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get repeat customers?

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Well, let's just scale the ad spend, but do so in a safe way.

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None of you on the show right now are spending $7,000, right?

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But I am on this calculator, right?

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Theoretically, because the logic is going to play out the same on Facebook if I know

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what my metrics are.

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But that's also why it's so critical to know your metrics.

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But check this out.

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If we spend $7,000, in fact, let's bump it way up.

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Let's pretend we spend $70,000.

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The reason why I'm doing this is I know that my variables are starting to level out.

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They're starting to make sense across the board, right?

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So let's see here, $75,000.

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Just play with that for fun.

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You notice that the numbers are changing a little bit less each time.

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But I know that if I could spend $75,000 on ads, if these are the metrics that I hit,

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then this would be what my outcome is going to be.

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That would mean that every time I spend $75,000, I'm going to make a gross return of $288,000

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minus the ad spend of $75,000.

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But I also have to pay for my advertising team.

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I have to pay for the systems that I have in place.

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I have to pay for the materials that I give to my clients.

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There's still information to be accounted for.

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There's still costs to be accounted for.

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We're trying to simplify this for everybody to understand, though, that you do have more

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power and control over winning on advertising than you even realize.

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So let's talk about what that looks like and how that works.

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So customer value-wise, we're going to come back to that later.

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For now, we're going to talk about the cost per view.

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You've probably never been told this.

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You may have never heard this before in this capacity, but you have full control over the

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cost per view that Facebook gives you.

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How do you control this?

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You control this by the quality of your offer.

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If your offer lacks quality, Facebook will jack up the price of your cost per view because

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they cannot prevent you from running a terrible offer.

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So if you want to lose on Facebook ads, run the same campaign most people run, which is

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sign up for our newsletter or come look at our general website.

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If you do that, Facebook's going to slap their forehead.

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They're going to say, oh, I wish this guy would run something more valuable than that.

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But because you're not, and we know our users don't want to see this.

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We know that our users hate advertising that doesn't provide value.

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So we're going to jack this price up of the cost per view so that you will put yourself

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out of your misery and stop advertising.

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That's what they're trying to do.

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They're trying to tell you, stop, it's not working.

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On the flip side, what if you had an offer that was amazing?

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What if you had an offer that inspired people to want to come back to Facebook because they're

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like, man, this person wants to give away a free car.

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And I'm talking about a legitimate deal here where you're actually doing it.

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If you're actually doing that, Facebook's going to drop your cost to less than one cent

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because they're excited to promote that.

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They know that people will then associate that opportunity with Facebook and they're

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like, man, this ad is awesome.

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The algorithm is designed to catch and see, okay, which ads are being shared, which ones

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are being commented on, which ones are being liked or hated.

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If it's drawing people in and getting people to engage in the platform, Facebook rewards

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that advertising and wants to push it to the masses because it improves the user experience.

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Right?

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So let's talk about restaurants.

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How does a restaurant take advantage of that?

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A free dessert.

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Yes, you have costs associated with that free dessert, but watch what happens when we change

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from that $500 in ad spend.

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We use the same exact ad spend, but we change the cost for you to one cent because you've

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provided something of amazing value that people want.

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Oh.

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Oh, if I hit the holy grail of one percent cost per view, now I've got 50,000 people

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who've shared this, who want to see it, want to get involved.

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I've got all sorts of people who might move forward on this free dessert concept.

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Right?

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Here's what also happens.

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Not only did more people get to see it, but your click through rate is also going to go

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up.

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We didn't even account for that yet, but let's talk about this click through rate, this 1.5

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percent.

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We're targeting a local demographic around that restaurant.

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And I'm giving away a free dessert for everybody who comes through on this.

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I'm going to go ahead and I'm going to suck it up.

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I'm going to make that the cost because I know that my restaurant is so valuable and

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we've got such great food and great service that as people come in, they're going to come

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back and back and back and spend again.

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That's the goal for the restaurant.

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The restaurant gives that free dessert away.

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Here we have a click through rate of 1.5 percent.

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Now that means that only one percent of people who saw that ad actually clicked on and moved

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forward.

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No, no, no.

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We need to look at this and say click through rate.

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If I'm giving away a free dessert, we're probably going to get a click through rate of north

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of five percent to 10 percent.

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We might even get as high as 15 to 20 percent.

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The highest I've seen of a client is 16 percent on a click through rate.

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She's a coach in the binge eating space and the lady was just so magnetic that every time

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she talked on an ad, people clicked like crazy.

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Our targeting had a little bit to do with that, but it was mainly just she just had

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something magnetic about her.

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Let's move this up to a five percent click through rate.

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Watch what happens instead of making twenty five thousand on that.

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Again, we'll come back to customer value.

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We're going to talk about right after I change this because you're going to be like, what?

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How do we make two thousand dollars on a dessert?

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We didn't.

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That's not the point.

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Five percent.

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Bam.

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We upgrade that click through rate and now we've got far more people moving forward

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with a transaction and now we're talking about making ninety thousand dollars of gross return

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off of an ad spend of five hundred dollars.

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OK, let's also look at changing this customer value now because customer value depends.

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Are we talking about lifetime customer value or are we talking about immediate customer

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value?

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Right.

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You've got to decide when you're marketing and when you're advertising which metrics

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and which which variables, which wins, which victories are you going to base your growth

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on?

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Those, again, are discussions that you should be having with the marketers and the advertisers

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that you're talking to.

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If you're not having those conversations, you're not likely to win or you're likely

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to create a campaign that's a fly by night campaign and set up and it kind of works one

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time or works here and there or burns out because you didn't take the time to understand

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how all this business model stuff comes together.

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So let's again digress back to customer value.

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Why did I put a customer value of two thousand dollars?

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One because it's simple.

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I'm trying to teach right now and I want to teach based on round numbers so you know what

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we're talking about.

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Now let's move over to let me go back to the streaming tab here where we host.

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By the way, thank you for having an awesome set of tools to be able to do this.

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We're going to now present to you how we come about deciding a lifetime value and also how

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we determine which value we're going to base our advertising on.

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So this particular workbook, feel free to ask us for it.

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It's something we provide to our clients.

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It's something that we've we've optimized to great links over the last few months actually.

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And it's something that provides tremendous clarity for those who don't really understand

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the business models behind what they're doing.

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So lifetime value one on one.

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We're going to look at a restaurant scenario first.

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All right.

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So we've generalized this pricing for the sake of simplicity.

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This is not a real restaurant, but it is based on full service restaurants.

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And there's a couple of definitions you're going to need to read over here perhaps to

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keep up with this conversation.

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I want to go a little bit faster, though.

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You can slow down by pausing if you need to.

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The data that we have to calculate this this forecast that we're going to show you of net

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profit projection of a restaurant owner making seven hundred thousand dollars in net profit

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for the year or six figures for your or losing money.

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Again, this is based on the net profit take home, not off the total loss and not off the

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total gain as an entity.

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But let's go back over and look at where we got some of this information.

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So the data comes from the National Restaurant Association, which projects that the average

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patron comes back to a restaurant two times per month for two years for a total of twenty

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four visits.

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So what you'd want to do is multiply how much is one visit worth by the amount of visits

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that occur.

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And in this case, we've actually built the simplified lifetime value based on the simplified

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net profit value for the restaurant owner.

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So in this case, if this restaurant patron comes in, buys appetizer, dinner, alcohol

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and dessert, they buy all those things.

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Their check price is going to be fifty four dollars.

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And the income is going to be based off of a in this case, we did a five percent profit

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margin because the average restaurant makes somewhere between three percent and ten percent

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profit margins for for the restaurant.

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So that means that the restaurant owner makes two dollars and seventy cents off of that

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one guest for that one visit.

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And then I can delete this too.

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I need to delete this.

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This doesn't factor into the calculations here.

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But then we multiply those visits by the amount of times we forecast them making that particular

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purchase.

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This again is a theory, but it breaks down to a thirty eight dollar and seventy cents

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lifetime value, net profit value for this restaurant owner, knowing how much is he going

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to make based on that?

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And this is again, this is also I don't want to say it's calculated based on a what's the

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word I'm looking for, a low projection, you know, a worst case scenario, because there

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are people who have much worse cases than this scenario.

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There's people who have their prices for their restaurant and far lower than they should.

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There's people who have it priced high, far higher, you know, and they're winning.

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Fantastic.

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So what you need to know, though, as an entrepreneur is your pricing is arbitrary.

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You can read as many books on pricing as you want to.

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And you will find that all the methods and the madness that exists there.

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Yes, they tie into formulas to some degree, but you don't learn how to ride the bike by

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learning the mechanics of how to create the bike.

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You learn how to ride the bike by getting on the bike and riding it and being willing

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to fall as you go.

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So while we know a lot about these concepts and how to justify or discuss and argue these

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concepts, we're missing the point if we're not focused on moving the the client that

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we're talking to forward on their own business model.

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So let's go and go to a core product or profit maximizer.

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In this case, we're going to say that it's a coaching client.

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And for their coaching, they want to do a and I'm making this up as we go, but a six

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weeks program.

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I prefer a 12 week program and value per transaction.

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Let's say that for that 12 week coaching program, they charge twelve thousand dollars.

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In fact, let's just cut it in half.

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Let's do six thousand dollars.

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We'll do a small projection on this one.

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And then their income and cost of goods sold.

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Since they're doing coaching, they don't really have a lot of hard costs associated with the

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model.

469
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:24,080
So they're going to under project because if we under project, we can over deliver.

470
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:28,680
So let's put a cost of goods sold of 70 percent on this.

471
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:34,520
Therefore, for that one coaching client and the 12 week program, your net take home of

472
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:41,320
forty two hundred dollars is is what we would then be building your your business on if

473
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:46,760
we're talking about the immediate direct conversion impact of how much you're making.

474
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:51,280
Now, if we want to figure out the lifetime value, we would forecast how many times is

475
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:52,880
this person going to reinvest in us?

476
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,800
Are we doing a program where they're only with us for 12 weeks and they're cured for

477
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:59,200
life and they never need to talk to us again?

478
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:06,400
Maybe they're getting coached on on fertility and they only plan on having one child.

479
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:07,400
Right.

480
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:11,840
In that case, that would be the lifetime value of that that situation.

481
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:15,740
If there's other mothers who are going through a fertility program and they plan on having

482
00:27:15,740 --> 00:27:20,400
five or six children and they might go to the coaching program multiple times to continue

483
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:25,720
to get assessed and help as their health continues to change as they age, then they might they

484
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,400
might buy six times.

485
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,560
It's not my job to determine the vision for my clients.

486
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:35,080
It's my client's job to determine their vision for their relationship with their clients.

487
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:39,440
And then this number ends up helping us project and understand, all right, what what type of

488
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:44,320
the foundation we're laying, what's the value of the foundation that we're laying up front?

489
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,360
So if this person is, hey, you know what?

490
00:27:46,360 --> 00:27:49,560
We're going to coach them over the course of 10 years, but we're only going to coach

491
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,480
them one quarter every 10 years.

492
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:59,880
Then now we've projected the simplified lifetime value of this particular product or service.

493
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:04,040
We have not stacked it to showcase all the other things that they might buy along the

494
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:08,020
way or they might upgrade to given that we add other services.

495
00:28:08,020 --> 00:28:12,900
But for now, we're going to take the daily value as we call it in restaurants, the one

496
00:28:12,900 --> 00:28:15,800
visit transaction value, we're going to take the one transaction value.

497
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,840
We're going to come over here to the net profit projection and we're going to look at, OK,

498
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:26,400
this person who has a six thousand dollar high ticket offer with a cogs of forty two

499
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:27,400
hundred rather.

500
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:28,400
I'm sorry.

501
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,360
Their income minus the cogs of forty two hundred.

502
00:28:31,360 --> 00:28:35,500
We're going to take that net profit and we're going to calculate it based on the visits.

503
00:28:35,500 --> 00:28:37,880
So stay with me here, left side to right side.

504
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,240
OK, on the left side, this is the restaurant side of things.

505
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,760
What have we calculated over here?

506
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:49,120
We calculated a daily customer value that changes based on the scenarios.

507
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:50,560
Why do we do that?

508
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,760
Because there's variables that are fairly predictable.

509
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:57,920
If we're working with a worst case scenario, well, these people, they don't tend to calculate

510
00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:59,240
their lifetime value very well.

511
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:00,240
They're not mathematicians.

512
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,560
They wouldn't be in this problem to begin with.

513
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:03,560
Right.

514
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:04,680
They underestimate their taxes.

515
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,080
They don't factor in wage changes.

516
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,880
They have employees who are quiet quitting and they have plates breaking, late orders,

517
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,560
food sent back, spoilage, late shipments, fees.

518
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:17,840
They tend to do worse when they're not as well prepared for operating a business.

519
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:25,520
So we went ahead and we added in a projection that is less than ideal.

520
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:29,280
And on this side, I'm going to go ahead and remove that variable, assuming that you decide

521
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,640
in your worst case scenario to at least get your business model ironed out so you don't

522
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,880
have so many misfires and mishaps benchmark case.

523
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:36,880
All right.

524
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,860
So this would be 30 customers coming into that restaurant and buying food per day.

525
00:29:40,860 --> 00:29:41,860
That would be awful.

526
00:29:41,860 --> 00:29:45,040
That would be like having a restaurant that's empty almost the entire day.

527
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:46,880
And yeah, you'd naturally lose money.

528
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,240
We also predicted that on the business days, this is something that I see so many business

529
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:51,960
owners remain ignorant to.

530
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,600
And I'm like, how do you project your financial future if you're not factoring in how many

531
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,680
business days you have to work per year?

532
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:03,640
They're building based on a 365 day calendar, yet they've only got 260 working days to move

533
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:04,640
forward.

534
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,960
And that's including some holidays that most people don't want to take off.

535
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:12,840
But in the case of the worst case, a lot of those types of individuals, maybe they aren't

536
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:13,840
working as hard.

537
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:14,840
Let's just say they are.

538
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,120
Let's say they do work every single one of those days.

539
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:22,580
Well, they're losing more money because they're not aware of their operational costs.

540
00:30:22,580 --> 00:30:25,500
And the cool thing is you can come in here, you can adjust these calculators for different

541
00:30:25,500 --> 00:30:28,800
levels of losses or wins or level them out.

542
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:34,400
So you're looking at your daily customers based on the exact same variable.

543
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:35,400
Right.

544
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,920
And it's really important to factor, now, if I'm over your head, I apologize.

545
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,560
We'll need to take more time one-on-one to go over this and we can.

546
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:42,560
Right.

547
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:43,560
But let's shift gears.

548
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,240
So this is the restaurant side.

549
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:50,360
On the coaching side, you're not trying to sign 30 new coaching clients, 30 high ticket

550
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,240
clients per day, I don't think.

551
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,340
And in most cases, that would be a super victory.

552
00:30:56,340 --> 00:30:58,880
So Tony Robbins level victories.

553
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:04,160
On the daily customer side, you're probably signing one person every 10 days.

554
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,920
In the worst case scenario, maybe less.

555
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:12,380
And if that's the case and you're on point with your profit margin, well, you know what?

556
00:31:12,380 --> 00:31:17,680
Even if you only work 220 days per year and you sign somebody at that rate, look at that.

557
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,240
You're sitting at 92,000 on your net profit margin.

558
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,320
That's not a bad scenario to be in.

559
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:26,200
But is that your actual net profit margin?

560
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:27,200
I don't know.

561
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:31,300
Or are you actually signing somebody up every 10 days or is it taking you longer to sign

562
00:31:31,300 --> 00:31:32,300
your accounts?

563
00:31:32,300 --> 00:31:37,960
Again, that's why it's so helpful to recognize that when you project these values upfront,

564
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,200
you have somebody who walks you through it and helps you see that, okay, if you're in

565
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,600
the best case scenario where you're charging a little bit more and you can provide a little

566
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:49,840
bit more value, check out the difference of if you are signing almost one client per day

567
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,440
and a little bit, let's lower it.

568
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,200
I'm just going to lower it right to the value you want to charge.

569
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:55,200
Right.

570
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:56,200
That $6,000.

571
00:31:56,200 --> 00:32:01,040
Then if you were to charge $6,000 every time on nearly somebody signing up every single

572
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:07,080
day and you were to only work 240 days out of the year, you'd still make $800,000 at

573
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:08,080
the end of the year.

574
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:09,080
That's a fantastic return.

575
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:10,080
Right.

576
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:14,520
So this, again, these numbers help us make sure that when we're forecasting back to the

577
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:18,360
other revenue growth workbook, that we're forecasting based on a number that makes sense

578
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,440
for your business.

579
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:25,740
And too many businesses don't take the time to verify these numbers with their providers.

580
00:32:25,740 --> 00:32:30,040
The providers know it's far safer, far more likely to move a transaction forward if you

581
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:34,480
don't complicate it than if you try to teach all this stuff to a business owner.

582
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,500
The problem is the business owner, again, makes decisions that aren't on the business

583
00:32:37,500 --> 00:32:44,900
owner's best interest is the word I'm looking for.

584
00:32:44,900 --> 00:32:50,160
So this, again, this is a very, very small introduction into a very difficult topic,

585
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:54,420
but one that business owners should be planning around and preparing for.

586
00:32:54,420 --> 00:32:59,420
And it's not something that you present as a business plan to a bank just to forget later

587
00:32:59,420 --> 00:33:00,760
or not use.

588
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:04,560
It's something that you should be utilizing with the teams that you work with, the agencies

589
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,460
or the consultants that you work with.

590
00:33:06,460 --> 00:33:07,680
They need to understand this stuff.

591
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:11,780
And if they don't understand this stuff, then how are they going to guide you strategically

592
00:33:11,780 --> 00:33:13,560
on moving your business forward?

593
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,720
So let me go back to StreamYard again.

594
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:16,720
Let's see.

595
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:18,040
Chris Burns is in here.

596
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:22,780
He says, and he's amazing by the way, he says, sharing the best practices and strategy.

597
00:33:22,780 --> 00:33:23,780
Keep up the great work.

598
00:33:23,780 --> 00:33:24,780
Dude, you're awesome, Christopher.

599
00:33:24,780 --> 00:33:25,780
I'm glad to have you.

600
00:33:25,780 --> 00:33:28,960
And I look forward to hosting you on the show soon enough because you do throw down a ton

601
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:29,960
of value.

602
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:34,100
Again, if there's any questions that come up from the audience about what we're talking

603
00:33:34,100 --> 00:33:39,040
about, if you want me to slow down on any particulars with this workbook, then don't

604
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:40,760
hesitate to ask guys.

605
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:44,840
You're not being a great coach and being a great business owner by pretending you know

606
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:45,840
how to do everything.

607
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,360
In fact, that's often holding you back.

608
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:50,360
So let's go ahead.

609
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:51,360
I'm going to stop sharing the screen.

610
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:55,680
I'm going to go back to the revenue growth workbook and I'm going to keep diving in a

611
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,200
little bit deeper, a little bit deeper, a little bit deeper on what that looks like.

612
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,260
So here we go back to that calculator.

613
00:34:02,260 --> 00:34:07,520
So back to customer value again, if we know the customer value we're projecting on, then

614
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:12,120
that gives us the peace of mind that we can build the strategy and the campaign based

615
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:13,640
on that particular number.

616
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:17,120
And this matters when it comes to learning how much scale do we want.

617
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,680
So the $2,000 customer value.

618
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,700
Well, we just learned that it's not 2000.

619
00:34:21,700 --> 00:34:26,480
We just learned that on a $6,000 package, it's actually a $4,200 value.

620
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,080
So why does that matter?

621
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:32,520
Well, you know, it would make you more confident to invest in us as an agency, right?

622
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,320
Or as a consulting firm.

623
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,760
But the reality is when we're working with clients at the highest levels, I remember

624
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:42,600
when we were at Video Power working with LaserWay and they wanted to be able to scale, we got

625
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:46,420
to a point where we could not scale their campaigns and we couldn't scale their campaigns

626
00:34:46,420 --> 00:34:51,720
because we were undervaluing the value of their customers and we were already spending

627
00:34:51,720 --> 00:34:55,760
the maximum amount we could spend on both Facebook and YouTube.

628
00:34:55,760 --> 00:35:02,360
So when I walked Todd through how to understand the lifetime value, he knew what that was.

629
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:06,520
He knew his lifetime value of his customers, but what he wasn't able to assess was what

630
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:11,320
was the value of the direct conversions that came from Facebook and YouTube ads.

631
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:16,160
And we had to do some research to figure out the indirect value, the indirect conversions

632
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:17,160
and how those worked.

633
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,480
And as we did, well, what I can tell you is this.

634
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:27,600
He went from eight locations by understanding his indirect value and lowering his expectations

635
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,700
on the direct conversion rates.

636
00:35:29,700 --> 00:35:33,920
We were able to expand the budget and he went from two locations, I'm sorry, eight locations

637
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,520
to two years later to more than 40 locations across the nation.

638
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:41,560
I don't know what all changes he made in order to make that happen, but I do know that our

639
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,920
campaigns were, they were being shut off.

640
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:49,560
They were being, we weren't able to scale them because they didn't understand the full

641
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:53,720
value of what was being received by their investment.

642
00:35:53,720 --> 00:35:58,840
And if you're addicted to attribution models and you don't fully understand them and you

643
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,440
think you do, that's one of the most dangerous positions you can be in in life is where you

644
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,100
think you know it all.

645
00:36:04,100 --> 00:36:09,120
When you think you know it all, you kind of shut your ears to what could exist in the

646
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:10,680
market to benefit you.

647
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:14,640
So let's take a look at some of what I'm talking about.

648
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:19,240
So some of the other variables you're seeing here, this return, this astronomical return,

649
00:36:19,240 --> 00:36:25,480
I'm going to move it back a little bit, but I invest $500 here and I make 89,000 in net

650
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:26,480
return here.

651
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:31,000
Yeah, like who in their right mind wouldn't reinvest in this scenario?

652
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,320
Well, I see it happen.

653
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:34,320
I do.

654
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,120
I see it happen far too often.

655
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:41,240
And what ends up happening is one month one, this type of situation plays out.

656
00:36:41,240 --> 00:36:42,640
And then let's talk about the restaurant, right?

657
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:48,200
So the restaurant gives away a free dessert and they don't have proper tracking in place.

658
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:52,920
So on the restaurant level, they can't actually see that these people, these 45 customers

659
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:54,920
all came in from that Facebook ad.

660
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:56,720
They didn't ask people about it.

661
00:36:56,720 --> 00:36:58,640
They didn't track it on their end.

662
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,040
They don't trust your judgment.

663
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,480
But what happens is they do see an influx in business and they kind of correlate it

664
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,920
with something else that might've happened.

665
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:09,440
And then they have all sorts of marketers who become attracted to it.

666
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:10,440
Why?

667
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,600
Because over a thousand people see their brand.

668
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:16,440
And so what happens, I'm going to stop sharing my screen now and come back to you guys, is

669
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:21,880
the business owner gets contacted by all sorts of marketers that exist out there.

670
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:25,120
And the marketers call in and say, hey, you know, your landing page sucks.

671
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:26,840
I mean, they should have made that better.

672
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:30,320
Or, hey, you know, we want to help you get found on Google because you're not showing

673
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,040
up on Google anywhere.

674
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,400
You attract all sorts of attention.

675
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,640
So the business owner says, you know what?

676
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:37,640
You're right.

677
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:38,640
I should be found on Google.

678
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:39,640
Why am I company not?

679
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:43,000
Because you're going to end up eliminating the marketer who drove the business to begin

680
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:49,040
with and hiring new entity who really just came in as a wolf in sheep skin to distract

681
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:52,240
you because they have something they want to sell you.

682
00:37:52,240 --> 00:37:53,240
Right.

683
00:37:53,240 --> 00:37:56,760
And when, when, when you start selling hammers, everything looks like a nail.

684
00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:02,440
But as you start to increase your value and you start to pre-qualify as a business who

685
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:06,480
has money and who is worth investing in, well, you're going to have all sorts of entities

686
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,720
that come towards you and want to work with you.

687
00:38:08,720 --> 00:38:10,440
And they're going to say everything that they can.

688
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:11,440
But guess what?

689
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:15,840
As you get more sophisticated as a business owner and you start to make more money, the

690
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,840
challenge of recognizing the good providers versus the great providers versus the scams,

691
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,240
it gets harder and not easier.

692
00:38:22,240 --> 00:38:26,960
It becomes much harder to evaluate who is actually on your side and who's not because

693
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:28,400
they get more sophisticated.

694
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:33,800
You don't, Tony Robbins and his team, they don't fall for the same cons that the, that

695
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,000
the businesses do who actually receive those.

696
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:37,360
Like, you know, I don't know if you get the calls.

697
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:38,360
I get them all the time.

698
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,160
I'm like, hey, we want to help you improve your Google listing click.

699
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,200
Like, you know, I don't have time for those calls.

700
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,800
You know, those calls are not effective.

701
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:50,160
They are scam artists most of the time trying to help you with that Google listing, extended

702
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:51,160
car warranties, right?

703
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:52,360
You would think nobody falls for that.

704
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,720
Well, if nobody fell for it, then they wouldn't do it.

705
00:38:54,720 --> 00:38:59,640
But again, as you level up, there's a higher level of sophisticated scam that comes your

706
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:05,680
way and you can't always recognize who the great providers are and who the providers

707
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:10,320
are that are full of crap, to be honest with you.

708
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:14,280
And there's unfortunately, there's a lot of them and they know how to protect themselves

709
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:18,280
and they don't have a system to, we don't have a system as marketers.

710
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,280
We don't have one to evaluate.

711
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,480
Are we teaching the right principles or are we not?

712
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:23,880
You can't report us to a bar.

713
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:27,500
Like, you know, like the legal, you can report a lawyer to a bar.

714
00:39:27,500 --> 00:39:30,520
You can report a doctor for malpractice.

715
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,000
You can sue them.

716
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:36,680
But in marketing, unfortunately, there's not a standard out there that people can say what

717
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:37,680
they want.

718
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:41,400
And the FCC will rarely come after people unless you're making millions and millions

719
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,200
and millions of dollars.

720
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:49,000
And so you have to figure out like, all right, well, how do I then assess if somebody is

721
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:54,920
ethical and building with my long term interests in mind, it can be a very, very challenging

722
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:55,920
process.

723
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:57,840
I don't have a one size fits all answer.

724
00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:59,280
There's not an easy answer on that.

725
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:03,200
You have to learn how to evaluate marketing itself.

726
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:07,320
And so I'm going to give you again, as much as I can in this 45 minute period to help

727
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:08,320
you do that.

728
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,320
But ultimately, you should not be firing your advertising team.

729
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:16,160
You should be finding an advertising team that's addicted to the scientific method.

730
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,400
And that's really what it comes down to because it's a matter of variables.

731
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:26,560
Let's say I did want to help a company so that they they can win, not based on a two

732
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,800
thousand dollar customer value, but let's say that you need something more practical.

733
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:33,200
You've got a software that you're trying to sell and that software you're going to generate

734
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:34,440
forty dollars a month.

735
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,360
Well, I would I would hope that you would have enough confidence in your software to

736
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,880
know that people will at least stay for three months time.

737
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:41,880
Right.

738
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:43,880
And if they will stay for three months time on a twenty dollar value.

739
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:44,880
Well, let me lower that.

740
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:46,760
It's going to be a sixty dollar value.

741
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:54,000
So if we're basing our advertising budget off of needing to make sixty dollars off of

742
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:59,560
off of the money that is spent, then we need to make sure that our campaign has an irresistible

743
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:04,760
offer enough to attract people to convert within a 90 day period, perhaps or within

744
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:06,080
a 30 day period.

745
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:11,520
Again, all all of the timeline factors and the assets and the metrics, they all they

746
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:12,880
all have to be factored in.

747
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,040
And if you're a new business and you don't have these benchmarks, well, I hate to break

748
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,360
it to you, but you're always going to be shooting in the dark.

749
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,980
You have to be willing to shoot in the dark in those cases.

750
00:41:20,980 --> 00:41:26,040
And so you have to work with an entity that can respect a budget that is that is much,

751
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,680
much lower than than what we've talked about today.

752
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,280
We talked about that hundred dollar maximum budget.

753
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,240
I'm going to show you what we do in just a minute.

754
00:41:33,240 --> 00:41:34,360
I'll finish on that.

755
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,480
But here's what we're building towards.

756
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:37,480
We want to get a customer.

757
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,480
We want to get a cost per view of around one cent.

758
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,080
And even in this case, you know, you're not profitable.

759
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:44,800
Oh, you're barely profitable.

760
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:45,800
Actually you were.

761
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:47,320
That's that's amazing.

762
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:48,680
So how are we profitable?

763
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:50,160
We don't know if these numbers are true.

764
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,440
So maybe they click through to your landing page at a one point five percent rate.

765
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:57,040
But maybe your landing page is so awful that it doesn't work on mobile.

766
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,400
And so you only get a five percent lead conversion rate.

767
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,800
And let's say your sales skills are so terrible, you only get a three percent conversion rate

768
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,400
here and now you've only got one new customer.

769
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:07,400
Right.

770
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,840
Well, you can fire the advertising team, but the advertising team is not wrong.

771
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:12,320
The advertising team did the right thing.

772
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,080
They got you that irresistible offer.

773
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,720
What you need to improve is the landing page and your sales skills.

774
00:42:18,720 --> 00:42:22,520
Because if you improve those things and you say, OK, well, I'll spend another five hundred

775
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,800
dollars on this, but I'm not just going to count on the money.

776
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:29,440
I'm going to make sure that I learn how to ask better questions throughout my cell.

777
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:35,340
And maybe I double the effectiveness of my cells of my sales calls and my lead conversion

778
00:42:35,340 --> 00:42:36,340
rate.

779
00:42:36,340 --> 00:42:37,340
Let's fix that mobile page.

780
00:42:37,340 --> 00:42:41,080
And if we fix the mobile page, maybe you move it from a five percent to a 10 percent success

781
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:42,080
rate.

782
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:48,080
And now out of those 750 website visitors, 38 no, 75 are converting.

783
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:49,080
Right.

784
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:53,040
And this is increasing the amount of people who move forward with you because you're increasing

785
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,440
your value, your click through rate.

786
00:42:55,440 --> 00:43:01,940
Maybe you go from saying download free download to download now.

787
00:43:01,940 --> 00:43:04,320
That's proven over the years to actually perform a little bit better.

788
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:07,760
And so you go from one point five percent to a two percent click through rate.

789
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,120
And that affects your bottom of your funnel.

790
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:11,120
Right.

791
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,520
So now you are getting closer to winning.

792
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:18,200
You've got to stay dedicated to the process of optimizing, not constantly creating super

793
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:23,800
cheap low cost systems only to then turn around and eliminate them and start fresh again or

794
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,120
to start with some other mechanism.

795
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:30,000
That's only going to give you a bunch of boxes in your garage or a bunch of cars in your

796
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:36,400
garage that are half built and parked and never finished when you really need to dedicate

797
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:40,840
yourself to the process of optimizing what it is that that you're putting out into the

798
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:41,840
world.

799
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:46,000
So coming back, I said I was going to share one more resource.

800
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:47,000
I'll do just that.

801
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:52,200
I'll show you how we ran the advertising campaigns for AbleHealth to end this call.

802
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:58,240
And so with AbleHealth, what we do is we create campaigns called gold coin campaigns.

803
00:43:58,240 --> 00:44:00,600
We call them power campaigns.

804
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,520
Either way, they're based on a scientific method.

805
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:07,880
We want to test one variable and one variable only against one audience.

806
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:08,880
Right.

807
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,520
So we pick the audience by doing a lot of research and development with you on the front

808
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:12,520
end.

809
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,920
And we create these statements that draw attention.

810
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,680
And some of them, the red ones didn't win.

811
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:19,440
The yellow ones were silver coins.

812
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:20,680
They do win.

813
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,880
But the green ones are the one we focus on because they won very big.

814
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:27,360
You'll notice here again, pause the screen to go through this and you're on your own

815
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:28,360
time.

816
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,160
But the amount spent on this one campaign was six dollars.

817
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,060
Same thing on this one, five ninety nine.

818
00:44:33,060 --> 00:44:37,000
And we were able to reach four hundred people, which was able to give us enough data to know

819
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,840
are people clicking on this information.

820
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,240
We then do the same thing with a series of headlines.

821
00:44:42,240 --> 00:44:44,880
And again, we had several headlines at one.

822
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,820
Now we took one of those headlines and we turn that headline.

823
00:44:47,820 --> 00:44:51,200
Don't get any fertility treatments until you read this into a series of images.

824
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,220
And we ran the same test again.

825
00:44:53,220 --> 00:44:55,740
Always look at the cost of the test.

826
00:44:55,740 --> 00:44:58,520
We're spending four dollars and forty eight cents here.

827
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:04,060
And this image that won, you know, got a click cost per click of fifty six cents.

828
00:45:04,060 --> 00:45:06,720
These are all ads that we can scale.

829
00:45:06,720 --> 00:45:11,120
And as long as they're getting a cost per click at this level, then we don't mind putting

830
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:12,120
those ads out there.

831
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,600
Then we wanted to test that against a video.

832
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:15,880
Same thing in this video.

833
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:17,360
Got a 50 cent cost per click.

834
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,080
So it's the most powerful of the assets.

835
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:22,040
But now we've got a series of assets that we can scale out.

836
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:28,480
And we know that this is the as long as we're getting a cost of per click at this level,

837
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,740
then we've got a very, very good campaign.

838
00:45:30,740 --> 00:45:32,160
It's a great way to test the assets.

839
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,120
Now, every single one of these assets can also be utilized.

840
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,880
I'll stop sharing my screen now.

841
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:41,560
They can also be utilized in the email nurturing sequence.

842
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,380
You can utilize those in posts.

843
00:45:43,380 --> 00:45:45,400
You can go live about that topic.

844
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:50,620
You can create podcasts about that topic, all knowing that it was the target audience

845
00:45:50,620 --> 00:45:55,040
that resonated with that message so much so that a lot of people started to click in the

846
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:56,040
process.

847
00:45:56,040 --> 00:46:02,320
I just I don't see enough businesses taking the time to plan strategically before they

848
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:03,320
launch.

849
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:06,280
So I would encourage you to take a 90 minute strategy call or even a 20 minute strategy

850
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:11,840
call, sign up with somebody and then assume that everything's going to be off to the races

851
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,280
and we're going to win no matter what.

852
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:18,520
And it breaks my heart that so many people launch that way and think that that's what's

853
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:25,420
going to drive the value for their business, that they're going to somehow create the perfect

854
00:46:25,420 --> 00:46:26,420
solution and win.

855
00:46:26,420 --> 00:46:30,680
And yeah, there are some people who do win with that concept.

856
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:36,120
There's enough that win by doing it that way that it gives everybody else hope that they'll

857
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:38,440
also win that lottery.

858
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:42,840
But hope should lead to a series of faith based actions, right?

859
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:47,480
It should lead to a belief and a process that you then commit yourself to.

860
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:52,400
And you exercise the discipline necessary to be able to build out the campaign the way

861
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:57,960
that that you should build it out with an entity that you trust to help you ask the

862
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:02,360
hard questions that you don't know the answers to in order to protect your brand on winning

863
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:03,360
big.

864
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:07,040
And if you do that, you can create phenomenal growth for your company.

865
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:14,060
You can create campaigns where you're seeing multi thousand percent returns on those campaigns.

866
00:47:14,060 --> 00:47:18,800
But it takes somebody who's dedicated to the process to see that Dr. Eric Berg is a phenomenal

867
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:20,440
example of that.

868
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:25,040
You can go and see how he's grown from 106,000 subscribers and a brand that was struggling

869
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:29,680
to convert with the landing page to hearing some very tough conversation feedback from

870
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:31,360
myself and our team of guy.

871
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:35,320
Dude, you can't you can't launch this and expect people to want to purchase from that

872
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:36,320
page.

873
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:37,320
You're going to have to fix your branding.

874
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:38,720
And he did fix his branding.

875
00:47:38,720 --> 00:47:42,000
He put a lot of money and effort into building that brand at the time.

876
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:46,800
And now he's at like 10 million subscribers on YouTube and continuing to scale up.

877
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:51,640
The exception to the rule shouldn't be the victors, in my opinion.

878
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:57,040
I think the majority should move towards victory, but the majority we have we have to learn

879
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:01,200
to be inspired to dedicate ourselves to the principles of learning and growth that will

880
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:05,800
lead to us understanding what we need to understand to scale our business models effectively and

881
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:06,800
appropriately.

882
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:10,080
So I hope this was super helpful for everybody that was watching on.

883
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:16,120
If it leads you to asking more sincere questions about your own growth plans, then I've ultimately

884
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,900
provided the value I wanted to provide today.

885
00:48:18,900 --> 00:48:23,240
If you want to dive into the revenue growth intensive revenue growth workbook intensive

886
00:48:23,240 --> 00:48:27,120
for free, we've got that link shared in the comments as well.

887
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:31,840
My hope with that, too, is not to undervalue the actual resource, but to inspire you to

888
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:36,040
say, you know what, there's a lot of value that's been put into this process for years.

889
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:40,200
I should go through it and I should see what first class business is willing to provide

890
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:45,560
to me in order to assess are they the type of entity that we would want to work with

891
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:46,560
for our growth.

892
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:47,560
And our doors are open to you.

893
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:50,240
We're happy to discuss what that could look like.

894
00:48:50,240 --> 00:48:55,480
We invite you to connect with us on LinkedIn, Facebook, anywhere, wherever your preferred

895
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:57,480
method of connection is.

896
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:01,440
Let's start a dialogue about how to help you move your brand forward, because at the end

897
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:05,480
of the day, I'm not winning if you're not winning, but we are winning big.

898
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:09,080
If you are winning big, you have a vision to fulfill and we want to see you fulfill

899
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:11,120
it at the highest scales possible.

900
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:16,160
In order to do that, you got to know where to put your money, where to put your time

901
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:17,640
in order to scale that.

902
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:21,520
And I think you're far closer to being able to scale than you even realize.

903
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:26,120
You just need to dive into that conversation and start asking those questions and getting

904
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:31,080
the candid answers back so you can let go a little bit and say, you know what, perhaps

905
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:33,600
I am more prepared than I thought I was.

906
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:38,040
Or perhaps that coach who's holding me hostage, you know, they're not necessarily treating

907
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:39,040
you that way.

908
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:42,520
But if they're saying, you know, oh, you don't need another coach, well, they're wrong.

909
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:43,960
Everybody needs a lot of coaches in life.

910
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:48,000
Or if you have a team and you think, well, I've already got a team, do you have the right

911
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:49,000
team or the wrong team?

912
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:52,340
You know, do you have a team that's set up and maybe able to help you in the future once

913
00:49:52,340 --> 00:49:55,080
you figure these other fundamental aspects out?

914
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:56,080
Probably.

915
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:59,040
You know, but are they going to help you figure out these fundamental things out?

916
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:03,360
Because if they haven't already, they probably aren't very well equipped to answer all those

917
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:04,360
questions.

918
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:10,480
And I just did, again, it hurts my heart to see business owners who are so close to launching

919
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:14,680
phenomenal visions, but they're held back by their support group or the environment

920
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:18,560
they're stuck in when, you know, there's there's an answer right in front of them.

921
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:24,440
And we could help them scale and grow to tremendous capacity while improving the quality of service

922
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:28,200
that you provide and also making room for all of those who do want to help you with

923
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:29,200
growth.

924
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:32,880
But maybe you're a little bit scared to let you go or let you grow.

925
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:34,440
Let's not keep you stuck there, guys.

926
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:35,440
Continue to ramp up your visions.

927
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:36,440
Thank you for your time.

928
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,600
Thanks for joining us on Vision Pros Live.

929
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:40,360
And we will see you on the next episode.

930
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:41,360
Have a fantastic night, everybody.

931
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:42,360
Bye bye.

932
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:43,360
Thank you for being here today.

933
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:44,360
I'm really happy that you tuned in to Vision Pros Live.

934
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:45,360
I'm looking forward to seeing your reactions as these episodes continue to move forward.

935
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:46,360
We optimize them as the months go by.

936
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:47,360
This is going to get more and more fun.

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We'll have more and more engagement as well.

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We'll invite people to participate in the show.

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And thank you for giving us your time and attention.

