1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,660 San Antonio, west of what part of Austin? 2 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:07,640 Windsor Park, kind of near Mueller. 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:09,960 So if you're ever around the area, 4 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:14,960 let's grab a tea or coffee or go get our vision checked. 5 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:16,400 Go get our vision checked. 6 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:19,000 Yeah, that would be a good idea for me, actually. 7 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:21,600 I think it would be, that would make it more likely 8 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:23,320 that we make time for it. 9 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:25,700 You got, what brought you to Austin? 10 00:00:25,700 --> 00:00:27,640 Where are you from originally? 11 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:29,360 Originally from Chicago, Illinois. 12 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:32,160 And always wanted to move. 13 00:00:32,160 --> 00:00:33,720 And then when the world kind of shut down, 14 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,020 everything that I thought I needed to do in person, 15 00:00:36,020 --> 00:00:37,080 I didn't. 16 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:40,760 And so when it came to community building and business, 17 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:42,760 it was all able to do virtual. 18 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:44,400 And I would hold a virtual event 19 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:45,680 and get a thousand people attend. 20 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:47,240 And it was just like, okay, 21 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,200 I think there's a different thing I need to do 22 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:50,940 when it comes to building community and a business. 23 00:00:50,940 --> 00:00:53,360 And it doesn't have to take place in Chicago. 24 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:55,840 And so then Austin for a variety of reasons, 25 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,160 but that's why we moved. 26 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,600 Nice, and who are three leaders 27 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:05,520 that you follow or respect 28 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,680 or who publish content that you appreciate? 29 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:10,120 Well, my dad doesn't publish content. 30 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:13,160 So I guess I can't use him as an example. 31 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,640 Sure, good call though, number one. 32 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:17,640 When I think about what influences me the most, 33 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,240 it's like the experiences I had and then my upbringing. 34 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:23,320 And I was very lucky to have a very supportive family. 35 00:01:23,320 --> 00:01:25,240 But so from leaders specifically, 36 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:29,880 Marcus Buckingham is a big leader that I look up to. 37 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:34,800 Esther Perel in regards to candor and open and honesty 38 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:35,880 in regards to relate. 39 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:39,080 All right, welcome in to Vision Pros Live. 40 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,120 With Jackson Calame, I'm your show host. 41 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,800 We'll be doing interviews for visionary entrepreneurs 42 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:45,760 and guest leaders who are building 43 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:47,320 fantastic visions out there. 44 00:01:47,320 --> 00:02:06,320 And I'm excited to have Dr. Benjamin Ritter on the show today. 45 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:09,640 Dr. Ritter is going to be talking to us about leadership. 46 00:02:09,640 --> 00:02:13,920 And really the true leadership is self leadership, 47 00:02:13,920 --> 00:02:15,080 learning how to lead ourselves. 48 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:17,960 And we're all on different spectrums in terms 49 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:19,600 of figuring that process out. 50 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:21,480 Most of us know how to get ourselves out of bed. 51 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,680 Most of us know how to show up to work and do things like that. 52 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:26,560 But we're going to dive in as deep as possible 53 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,240 into some of the more advanced aspects of that, which 54 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:30,800 may take us to the fundamentals. 55 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:31,800 We'll see. 56 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,680 Before we dive in and get Dr. Ritter on, 57 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,000 I'd like to do the show sponsors real quick. 58 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,960 Again, these are actually services and people 59 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:40,800 that I work with. 60 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,080 These aren't people who pay me to be in the sponsorship. 61 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:45,760 They're entities that I know that help visionaries 62 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:47,000 with growth. 63 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,080 So we use ColdClick, for instance, 64 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:50,680 for our LinkedIn automation. 65 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,600 It helps make sure that as we get in touch with new people 66 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:55,840 and expand our message and brand, 67 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,120 that we don't get shut down in the process. 68 00:02:58,120 --> 00:02:59,680 There's all sorts of opportunities 69 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,920 to automate what you do and make sure that you not only get 70 00:03:02,920 --> 00:03:04,600 in front of as many people as possible, 71 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,160 but you also want to make sure that as you use that, 72 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:10,000 you're using it in a way that authentically connects you 73 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:11,360 with people. 74 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:14,320 Automation does not have to be about driving things 75 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,760 down people's throats, as I see it so often. 76 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:18,800 And it doesn't have to be some, I 77 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,200 want to say some stupid message that says, hey, 78 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,760 it looks like we're mutually connected to several people. 79 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:24,960 We should talk. 80 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,400 That line has been so overused. 81 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:29,560 If you find your automation using that, 82 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:31,680 it's time to switch your strategy. 83 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,720 There is nothing authentic about automating 84 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:36,520 what you don't actually know about people 85 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:38,060 and who you're actually connected with. 86 00:03:38,060 --> 00:03:41,200 So with that said, I also recommend TapMental. 87 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,600 David Goodall is a client of ours. 88 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:45,280 And he's also very good at helping 89 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:49,000 people unlock their psychology in order 90 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,440 to advance their systems. 91 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:53,720 I highly recommend checking out tapmental.io, 92 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,520 doing your own research on that, seeing what his case studies 93 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:57,200 look like. 94 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,480 If you're in the blue collar space, 95 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,720 construction, general contracting, 96 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,320 things of that nature, he is a breath of fresh air, 97 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,560 as well as extremely good at what he does. 98 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:11,040 So he's also done some really cool things with me already 99 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:12,560 over the last couple of weeks. 100 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:14,280 So that's why I was like, you know what? 101 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,640 I got to throw him in the sponsors as well. 102 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,360 The water project, you'll notice that as well 103 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:20,480 in the top right corner. 104 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,440 The water project is my favorite. 105 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:24,840 I don't want to call it a charity. 106 00:04:24,840 --> 00:04:26,640 I'll call it a solution for people 107 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:28,120 who have needs in the world. 108 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:29,120 We're very lucky. 109 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,120 I don't have to think about where to get my water from. 110 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:32,680 Well, if I do want to think about it, 111 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:34,400 I just go right for this bottle. 112 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:35,900 And most of us have the opportunity 113 00:04:35,900 --> 00:04:37,240 to access water that easily. 114 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,720 But there are communities that do not 115 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,760 have clean drinking water, and it affects their education. 116 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:46,000 It affects their ability to raise their families properly. 117 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:50,280 It causes death and illness, and it breaks my heart. 118 00:04:50,280 --> 00:04:54,000 So if I can inspire even just one person on this episode 119 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,000 to go gift $1 to those individuals, what's really cool 120 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,880 is they will show you the outcome of your results 121 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:02,800 based on that community and that community's efforts 122 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,480 to build their sand dam or to build their borehole well 123 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:07,080 and then learn how to maintain it. 124 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,520 It's a very, very worthwhile cause. 125 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,920 If you have a cause that you'd rather see supported, 126 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,520 do not hesitate to drop the link in the comments. 127 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:15,980 I'd be happy to take a look at it. 128 00:05:15,980 --> 00:05:18,400 We might even put it on the show as well, 129 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,160 and you just never know what will happen 130 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:21,860 and what types of good can come from that. 131 00:05:21,860 --> 00:05:25,240 So without further ado, I'm going to bring Dr. Ritter on. 132 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,600 I'm going to call him Ben because he requested that. 133 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:28,280 He's that cool. 134 00:05:28,280 --> 00:05:31,120 He's not a pretentious doctor that is not approachable 135 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:34,360 and that makes you just use the titles. 136 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:36,440 And I'm excited to talk about leadership with him. 137 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,920 So Dr. Benjamin Ritter, Ben, 138 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:41,040 thank you for being here today. 139 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:42,320 I appreciate it. 140 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:43,720 Jackson, so happy to be here. 141 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:45,800 Thanks, I really appreciate it. 142 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:47,800 When we, I go hiking a lot with my partner 143 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,840 and we always listen to my podcast intros a lot 144 00:05:50,840 --> 00:05:52,280 cause I have some shows as well. 145 00:05:52,280 --> 00:05:54,520 And so I was like, hi, I'm Dr. Benjamin Ritter. 146 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:57,520 And we always just make fun of it cause it's kind of funny. 147 00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:59,120 Like it's your intro, I get it. 148 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:00,840 Like you want to introduce that credibility 149 00:06:00,840 --> 00:06:02,180 and have those titles. 150 00:06:02,180 --> 00:06:05,720 Has anybody asked you to show their ID to prove you're a doctor? 151 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:07,320 You're very young looking. 152 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,160 You've maintained your health well. 153 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:10,000 What's the secret? 154 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:11,560 I go doctor, but not a medical doctor. 155 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,160 And it's mostly just correcting people. 156 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,400 It's not a PhD, it's an EDD. 157 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:18,280 And it's, I don't practice at a hospital 158 00:06:18,280 --> 00:06:20,480 even though I worked in healthcare for seven years. 159 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:23,160 So it's more of that. 160 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,960 People actually stopped asking me to show my credentials 161 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:27,240 once I got the doctor. 162 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,320 That's actually what was one of the reasons why 163 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:30,640 I went back to school to get it. 164 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,120 So when I come knocking on the door, 165 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,240 when it comes to business or opportunities, 166 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:36,720 people at least look through the peephole 167 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,760 or open up the door part way with the chain still on it. 168 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:41,680 It gives you kind of that little instant aspect 169 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:42,760 of credibility that you need 170 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:44,880 when working with executives and leaders. 171 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:46,800 Of course, absolutely. 172 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:47,960 How old are you though? 173 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:49,920 38. 174 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:51,120 38, my goodness. 175 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:51,960 Yeah, lucky man. 176 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,560 You got some good genes then in that case. 177 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:55,400 All right, my friend. 178 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:56,240 Well, let's dive in. 179 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,680 So who should be listening today? 180 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:00,960 Why should they listen to you specifically, Ben? 181 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:02,360 And what are they going to get out of today's show, 182 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:03,840 do you think? 183 00:07:03,840 --> 00:07:05,360 Well, I think it kind of depends on the questions 184 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:06,200 that are asked. 185 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,080 So, you know, if we start talking about, you know, 186 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:10,360 Saturday morning cartoons, 187 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:12,320 I'll have something to talk about there when I was a kid, 188 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,240 but start talking about soccer and nutrition 189 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:15,160 as something to talk about there. 190 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,560 We want to talk about self leadership and leadership 191 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:19,240 and accomplishing your goals and creating clarity 192 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:20,640 and confidence control of your life 193 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,240 and greater fulfillment in your career 194 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,440 and ultimately your day-to-day and your relationships, 195 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,560 then we can talk about that too. 196 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:29,400 So what do you want to talk about, Jackson? 197 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,520 Well, we're going to go straight into your vision. 198 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:33,960 And so as we talk about your vision and the vision 199 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:35,160 for those that you serve, 200 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:36,560 I have a feeling we'll be gravitating 201 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:38,600 towards leadership itself. 202 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:40,640 But I guess the bigger question is, 203 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:42,520 in regards to leadership, 204 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:44,840 why should we be listening to you, Ben? 205 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:49,520 I think that's something that you have to ask yourself. 206 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:52,560 A lot of people ask, Ben, why are you credible? 207 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:54,120 Why should we listen to you? 208 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,160 I say, you're here, you're listening already. 209 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:57,200 Take five, 10 minutes. 210 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,600 If you don't connect, sign off. 211 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,400 But when I talk about leadership and self leadership, 212 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,800 there's one thing that I really focus on 213 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:06,560 that's a little bit different than others. 214 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:08,680 And that's the aspect of self leadership. 215 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:10,080 And no matter who's in front of you 216 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,480 and who supposedly the leader is, 217 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:14,160 you're ultimately making your own decisions 218 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:15,120 and your own choices. 219 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:17,080 And so you need to be accountable 220 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,000 and you need to give yourself permission 221 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,000 to make decisions that lead you towards the things 222 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:22,040 that you want to achieve in life. 223 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:23,320 And that sometimes means just stopping 224 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:25,880 and ask yourself, what do you want to achieve? 225 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:29,440 And I work with very high powered executive leaders 226 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:33,440 and those individuals very rarely pause 227 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:36,560 and ask themselves, what are they actually working towards? 228 00:08:36,560 --> 00:08:38,200 So if you find yourself being reactive 229 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,160 and you want to become more proactive 230 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:41,760 and create something different than where you're at, 231 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:43,560 that's why you should listen. 232 00:08:43,560 --> 00:08:44,400 I love that. 233 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:45,880 Well, and I love that you also started that 234 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:47,640 by reflecting back to the reality 235 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:52,640 that you respect the listeners as self leaders, right? 236 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:54,760 They need to take the time to figure that out. 237 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:56,240 That's not, there's some people who would use that 238 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,240 to kind of push people off, 239 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,440 but I see the value in what you just did. 240 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,440 So let's dive in first then with, 241 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:04,280 as far as your vision, 242 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:06,360 what's your vision for those who you serve? 243 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:09,400 What do you want them to be able to accomplish? 244 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:13,360 My whole mission when it comes to working with leaders 245 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:18,360 and career development is to help people feel 246 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:19,680 like they can actually achieve 247 00:09:19,680 --> 00:09:20,960 whatever it is they want to achieve. 248 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:25,640 We are so held in shackles by our beliefs 249 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:27,240 about what work has to be like, 250 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:28,600 what our career has to be like, 251 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,360 who we can reach out to, who we can't reach out to, 252 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:33,680 what we can't achieve, what we can't achieve. 253 00:09:33,680 --> 00:09:36,840 And it's just, all of it is a myth. 254 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:38,440 And so how do you want to work? 255 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,120 Really, truly ask yourself, how do you want to work? 256 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,240 What do you want to be working on? 257 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:45,440 And once we make those decisions 258 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:46,360 and create those commitments, 259 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,000 then it's about, okay, let's make that happen. 260 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,600 So my whole mission is to deconstruct the limiting beliefs 261 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:53,460 that people have when it comes to work, 262 00:09:53,460 --> 00:09:55,160 to think that I'm not good enough. 263 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,760 Why don't take that away, who said that? 264 00:09:57,760 --> 00:09:59,320 I don't care what you want to achieve. 265 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:01,920 There is a way to get there, honestly. 266 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,600 Now we are paid for doing a job. 267 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,160 And so there is work involved when it comes to work. 268 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,040 That whole saying, find what you love, 269 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:09,880 find what you're passionate about, 270 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,720 never work a day in your life, it's a whole, 271 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:14,400 it's not exactly true. 272 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,040 I'm telling you that because I love what I do. 273 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:17,480 And there are still days that I don't want to get up 274 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:18,320 and do the things that I do, 275 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,440 but I am living intentionally and committed 276 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:21,800 to the fact that I have a business 277 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:23,360 and that I'm on this specific path. 278 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:25,480 And I know there are certain levers I have to pull. 279 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,280 I don't have to work that long to pull them, 280 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:28,600 but I have to hold myself accountable. 281 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,040 Because if I know if I let those go and I don't do that, 282 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,360 then I'm going to have to deal with the consequences. 283 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:34,200 Yeah, well said. 284 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:35,360 And so ultimately, yeah. 285 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:37,480 Go ahead, you got an ultimately? 286 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:38,440 I'm excited for it. 287 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:42,840 Ultimately, the name of my company 288 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:44,240 is Live For Yourself Consulting. 289 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:45,320 And because the whole mission, 290 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,240 everything that I'm talking about is truly just creating 291 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:48,920 a life where you're living for yourself. 292 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:50,680 Where you understand what your core values are, 293 00:10:50,680 --> 00:10:52,240 understand what you stand for, 294 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,920 and then being open to curating crafting paths 295 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,160 in a direction that honors that. 296 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,120 That means your relationships, that means your work, 297 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:00,640 that means how you treat yourself. 298 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:05,000 And it's ultimately a commitment to living a fulfilled life. 299 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:08,240 Away from fear, away from thinking that it's too risky, 300 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,440 away from a scarcity mindset, 301 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:12,920 and more towards abundance, possibilities, and optimism, 302 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:16,200 and the support for yourself so you can support others. 303 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:17,040 I like that. 304 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:21,480 You've unlocked a lot of truths that one would, 305 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,800 that would serve somebody well by looking up. 306 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,320 Like you said, and writing down, journaling. 307 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,520 What are those things that you wanna be doing more of 308 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:31,400 and spending more time on? 309 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,520 I also appreciate that you have the balance 310 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:36,840 of recognizing things that people may not want to do. 311 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:40,040 There are things that have to be done oftentimes, 312 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:41,880 and we can look at that with a have to, 313 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:43,040 we can look at that with a get to, 314 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:44,280 but at the end of the day, 315 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:47,440 no matter how much I enjoy putting on my socks, 316 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:48,840 or don't enjoy doing that, 317 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:52,640 it might be a relevant step for what I do for my job. 318 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,600 So there's all sorts of things that exist like that, 319 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:57,920 no matter what it is that you do in life. 320 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,120 Let's talk about your vision a little bit. 321 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,360 What's your vision for yourself 322 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:04,240 over the next five, 10, 15 years? 323 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:07,600 It's my vision, a little post-it note, 324 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:12,360 is I am spirit, find the adventure, and that's really it. 325 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,760 That means I'm spirit means that I'm fully connected 326 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,920 to the world around me and my values, it relates to health, 327 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,040 and find the adventure means that I always have to show up 328 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:24,440 and create the fun and be proud of my day to day. 329 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:27,680 And I do that through my work, by the way. 330 00:12:27,680 --> 00:12:30,560 I do that through creating and crafting careers 331 00:12:30,560 --> 00:12:31,880 that people can love for themselves 332 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:33,680 and helping leaders develop 333 00:12:33,680 --> 00:12:35,520 so that they can do that for others. 334 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:37,520 But that is one way for me to find the adventure. 335 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,080 That is one way for me to feel connected to my spirit. 336 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:42,680 And right now in alignment with my value of health, 337 00:12:42,680 --> 00:12:44,280 that's where I find fulfillment. 338 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:46,840 I love that, awesome. 339 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,800 So when you talk about finding fulfillment 340 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:51,800 and looking for that, 341 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:55,000 how do you, if somebody were looking for that answer, 342 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:56,800 how do I find fulfillment? 343 00:12:58,120 --> 00:12:58,960 What would you suggest? 344 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:00,640 The question, the big question. 345 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:02,440 Honestly, a lot of it starts with mindset 346 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:04,200 of giving yourself a little bit of grace 347 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:07,040 and understanding that searching for a feeling 348 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,320 is almost pointless. 349 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:13,760 A feeling is usually, it can be the cause of a situation 350 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:15,360 that you're in, an environment that you're in. 351 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,480 It can be, the cause could be just neurochemical. 352 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:19,240 Just this is how I feel today. 353 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:20,240 Because you could see that 354 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:21,800 by when you take certain substances 355 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,320 that give you hits of dopamine and make you feel good, 356 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:25,920 the next day you might not feel that good 357 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:27,840 because your brain's a little bit depleted. 358 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:29,520 So when we talk about finding fulfillment, 359 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:31,240 understand what that really means. 360 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:33,360 And that means that you're living for yourself, 361 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:34,840 that you're living an aligned life, 362 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:37,560 which if we then break that down even further, 363 00:13:37,560 --> 00:13:39,560 it means that you understand your core values, 364 00:13:39,560 --> 00:13:41,880 what you stand for, what brings you joy, 365 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,240 what helps you feel meaningful. 366 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:45,600 And then when you understand that, 367 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,400 aligning your relationships and your goals 368 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:49,920 and your objectives and your day-to-day actions to that. 369 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,960 So a simple activity that anybody can do 370 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:54,840 is list out the five times in your life 371 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:56,280 you were the happiest, 372 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:58,800 five times in your life where you're the least happy. 373 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,200 You can also do that for specific relationships. 374 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:04,120 You can do that for your job and work. 375 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,080 And when you identify where you're the happiest, 376 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:07,680 identify where you were the least happiest, 377 00:14:07,680 --> 00:14:11,120 you then look at how do these relate to each other? 378 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:12,280 What are the major themes 379 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:15,360 within these specific memories that I have? 380 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:17,720 And then when you figure out those themes, 381 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:18,560 you could start saying, 382 00:14:18,560 --> 00:14:21,200 oh, now I understand what actually brings me joy. 383 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,160 Now I understand what actually makes me happy. 384 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:26,280 And if you pull back on those memories a little bit more 385 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:27,720 and get a little bit deeper and ask yourself 386 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:29,760 to get more specific about those memories, 387 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,600 then you find out the specific keywords and phrases 388 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,040 that might actually define who you are at your core. 389 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:36,640 And who you are at your core 390 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,560 tends to be a cultivation of your experiences 391 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,480 from when work and from family and friends 392 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:45,040 and how you grew up as well as what you strive for. 393 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:47,360 And that you can have idealistic values, 394 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:49,880 what you really want to become. 395 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:51,600 And when you get those words, 396 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:52,920 sorry, then you can build from that 397 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:53,840 so that you're getting kind of, 398 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,920 it's kind of like you're doing a research study on yourself. 399 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:58,520 Dude, I was expecting a mic drop, 400 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,320 but then I realized your mic is connected so you can't. 401 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:04,360 You can't pull that off physically, but that was awesome. 402 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:06,240 So let's break that down a little bit. 403 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:10,760 So you're talking about the five times you're happiest, 404 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,120 five times you're least happy, that's intentional journaling. 405 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:14,320 I'm a big fan of journaling. 406 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:17,080 And I'm gonna be doing this exercise myself 407 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:17,920 now that you mentioned it, 408 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:20,120 because that's one I haven't done before. 409 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:23,360 I also love that you led with the word grace, 410 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:27,080 and grace towards oneself. 411 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:30,320 I don't know, I think a lot of people 412 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:33,960 really struggle with that concept. 413 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,840 Struggle with the ability to forgive themselves, 414 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,280 struggle with the ability to realize 415 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:44,280 the power of truly letting go of past weaknesses. 416 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:48,800 Grace for others as well can be very difficult. 417 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:50,800 Is that a subject you want to dive into, 418 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:52,160 or do you want to move forward 419 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:56,080 to your worst business experience ever, your choice? 420 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,960 I think it's important around grace just for a moment, 421 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:02,640 because one of the greatest issues people come to me with 422 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:04,920 is I don't know what I wanna do 423 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:06,120 and I feel like I'm missing out, 424 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:07,200 or I don't know what to choose 425 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,240 because I feel like I'm gonna be missing out. 426 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,760 And when it comes to clarity, truly understanding 427 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:16,720 what it is that you need to work towards, 428 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:18,200 want to work towards, 429 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:22,640 a lot of the answers come from not knowing, 430 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:25,960 come from actually taking action 431 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:27,800 when you're not 100% sure. 432 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:30,320 It's going towards those sparks 433 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,200 that you have identified in your life 434 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:33,960 that might be core values, 435 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,120 and then leaning into them and getting curious 436 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:37,440 and going to explore them. 437 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:40,200 And too often people are so afraid 438 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,400 of making the wrong choice that they actually miss out 439 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,200 on actually finding real information. 440 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:48,280 And so that grace of I'm gonna do something 441 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,720 and I'm gonna be okay after I do it, 442 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:53,040 that is so crucial to you actually figuring out 443 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,400 what you wanna do in life, in your career. 444 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:58,080 Absolutely. 445 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:01,920 Well said, let's dive right into the darkness at this point. 446 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:06,000 So what is your worst business experience ever? 447 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:09,560 Worst business experience. 448 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:11,240 So I've worked nine to five before, 449 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:12,400 I've worked in a corporate office, 450 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,960 but I'm gonna focus more on the entrepreneurial endeavors. 451 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:18,960 And I think there's two, I'll share one 452 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,480 if you wanna go to the second one, we can. 453 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:23,320 It was not actually following through 454 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:25,000 on a business idea that I had. 455 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:26,720 It was the first business idea I ever had. 456 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:28,560 I did all the research, I met all the vendors, 457 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:30,480 I created the product, I created the labels, 458 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:33,520 I did all the work and then I got too afraid of doing it. 459 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:37,360 It wouldn't have cost that much money, 460 00:17:37,360 --> 00:17:39,080 I could have literally put it out and forgotten about it, 461 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,160 but at least I would have followed through. 462 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:44,640 And instead I did something that I can't regret 463 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:46,200 because it led me to where I am today, 464 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:47,720 but I went to grad school. 465 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,160 It's like one of the things that I never, 466 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,720 all these young entrepreneurs that I mentor 467 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,600 through organizations like future founders and such, 468 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:57,480 they asked me, should I go back to school to get an MBA? 469 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:58,320 Should I do this? 470 00:17:58,320 --> 00:17:59,160 Should I do that? 471 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:00,160 I say, well, take action first. 472 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,720 Minimum viable product, put it out there, see what happens. 473 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:06,760 Before you make a two, three year X number of dollar 474 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:07,720 commitment to something. 475 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:09,720 So what's the least you can do to see 476 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:11,080 if something actually is gonna work? 477 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:14,440 And I didn't follow that advice when I was younger. 478 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:17,800 I love that and I appreciate that you accept the grace 479 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:21,640 for yourself now and you make great moves with your life. 480 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:26,160 And it kind of reminds me of like the father 481 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,260 who's out of the picture for 30 years, 482 00:18:28,260 --> 00:18:31,440 then later reconciles with their son or daughter 483 00:18:32,300 --> 00:18:36,480 and they get to have the relationship that they have now 484 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:38,820 and they should live with that element of grace. 485 00:18:38,820 --> 00:18:42,360 But it's also helpful to acknowledge and realize 486 00:18:42,360 --> 00:18:47,360 that they missed out on those 30 plus years. 487 00:18:47,660 --> 00:18:49,120 That's not something they should live 488 00:18:49,120 --> 00:18:53,800 with a lack of self-respect for, but the rest of us, 489 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:55,720 we have the opportunity to kind of see that 490 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:57,320 and learn from that and say, you know what? 491 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:00,560 I can seize the time now while my daughter's 12 492 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:04,000 and all my youngest is two and therefore utilize 493 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:05,560 that opportunity to grow from it. 494 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:07,320 So I appreciate you sharing that 495 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,160 because there are probably younger people 496 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,520 and there's probably people right now who are listening 497 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:13,720 that are in the want yourpreneur phase. 498 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:18,720 They want to be an entrepreneur and are worried like, 499 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:20,480 I don't know if I can do this. 500 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:22,260 I don't know if I should do this. 501 00:19:22,260 --> 00:19:25,260 What further advice would you have for somebody 502 00:19:25,260 --> 00:19:27,960 that's in that state of mind? 503 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:32,700 So our careers are a culmination of all of our jobs. 504 00:19:32,700 --> 00:19:36,240 And if you have varied experiences in your jobs, 505 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,720 you're more likely to have a varied career. 506 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:40,600 Like for example, I'm now an equity mentor 507 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,000 for CPG, like better for you CPG companies. 508 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:44,560 I care about health, I care about nutrition. 509 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:47,220 And so I've found ways to help young founders 510 00:19:47,220 --> 00:19:48,960 as well as to earn equity in businesses 511 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:50,120 that I'm really passionate about. 512 00:19:50,120 --> 00:19:53,000 I want to see them to excel in the world. 513 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:56,800 If I did not do this second thing, 514 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,120 which is when I had a supplement idea 515 00:19:59,120 --> 00:20:01,080 and the same thing happened, I did the research, 516 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:01,920 I got it together. 517 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,880 It wasn't even aligned with my current career path 518 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:06,760 that I was going on, but I said, I'm gonna launch it. 519 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:08,120 If I didn't launch that business, 520 00:20:08,120 --> 00:20:09,720 I would not have had as much credibility 521 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,520 to go be this equity mentor within the CPG space. 522 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:13,720 So I don't have food experience. 523 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,720 Yeah, I got a minor in nutrition and I'm passionate about it. 524 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:18,360 And I'm this leader coach, et cetera. 525 00:20:18,360 --> 00:20:19,840 I'm working with founders in these areas, 526 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:22,320 but I didn't have direct manufacturing. 527 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:26,320 You know, CPG, like I didn't have a resume bullet. 528 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:29,320 Yeah, and if I started that first company, I would have. 529 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:32,240 But so think about what is it that you can start today, 530 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:33,420 even if it isn't successful, 531 00:20:33,420 --> 00:20:35,280 is going to help you later on in life. 532 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,760 So by definition, it actually ends up being successful. 533 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:40,500 Is the experience that you're thinking about, 534 00:20:40,500 --> 00:20:42,600 but worried about going to be valuable 535 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:43,720 in any way, shape or form? 536 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:47,440 If so, and the cost is not going to be extravagant, 537 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,800 you're not gonna have these huge consequences afterwards, 538 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:51,320 then what do you have to lose? 539 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:54,360 Now, honestly, a week, two weeks, three weeks, a month, 540 00:20:54,360 --> 00:20:57,120 maybe six months, that can end up cultivating 541 00:20:57,120 --> 00:21:00,840 an entirely incredible career path later on in life. 542 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:02,940 As young entrepreneurs and founders, 543 00:21:02,940 --> 00:21:05,720 we think that our time is so valuable, 544 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,880 but we end up not actually investing any of our time 545 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:10,960 because we're worried about where we spend it. 546 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:12,980 And so when we're older, all of that, 547 00:21:12,980 --> 00:21:15,460 all those experiences add up and accumulate 548 00:21:15,460 --> 00:21:17,400 in a way that you can never ever imagine, 549 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,320 and are going to be invaluable for entrepreneurs 550 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,920 and business owners and executives later on in life. 551 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:25,240 True, very, very true. 552 00:21:26,340 --> 00:21:29,120 Let's dive into that second worst business experience. 553 00:21:29,120 --> 00:21:30,800 I think we'll have time. 554 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:34,760 So it was pressing enough to mention or allude to, 555 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:36,580 so I'm excited to hear it. 556 00:21:36,580 --> 00:21:38,280 Should I be excited to hear it or should I be scared 557 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:39,860 and ready to cry? 558 00:21:39,860 --> 00:21:42,040 I hope you're excited to hear everything. 559 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:43,360 Okay, good. 560 00:21:43,360 --> 00:21:44,300 Why not? 561 00:21:44,300 --> 00:21:47,280 So I got into what I do because I realized 562 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:48,880 that I was being reactive in my career 563 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:53,160 and that I was operating through a frame of reference 564 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:54,920 that you can't actually achieve what you wanna achieve 565 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:56,320 in your professional life. 566 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,280 I had a lot of career disappointments when I was younger. 567 00:21:58,280 --> 00:21:59,120 Everything I wanted to actually- 568 00:21:59,120 --> 00:21:59,960 Ron, what was this? 569 00:21:59,960 --> 00:22:00,880 What timeframe? 570 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:02,260 How old were you? 571 00:22:02,260 --> 00:22:04,560 This was, when this happened, 572 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,760 we're talking about like 2015. 573 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:09,680 Okay. 574 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,080 So almost 10 years ago. 575 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,360 So I was like 29 maybe, I think, or around there. 576 00:22:15,360 --> 00:22:16,600 I can't do math at the moment. 577 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:17,440 I hear you. 578 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,440 But I was- Good enough. 579 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:23,080 We're working in healthcare for about three, four years. 580 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,760 I was out of grad school, MBA, MPH, 581 00:22:26,580 --> 00:22:31,580 and had like about maybe like five and a half year window 582 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:33,720 after grad school at that point. 583 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,720 And I had a business that I founded. 584 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:38,720 It was in dating and relationships, a coaching business, 585 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,000 but I founded it because I fell into the industry. 586 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,320 We got recruited to go work part-time 587 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,600 as a coach for a major international company. 588 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,120 And then decided that I wanted to add some value 589 00:22:49,120 --> 00:22:51,080 to the space, wrote a book, like built a business. 590 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:54,000 Actually, how I learned to build a service-based business 591 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:55,840 was through this oops experience 592 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:57,000 where I kind of stumbled into it 593 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,600 and someone saw me and gave me the opportunity. 594 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,240 But that led, that oops experience 595 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,080 where I said I wanted to give to this space 596 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,600 and make sure that I create an impact in this space 597 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,960 led to a five and a half year business 598 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:11,960 that I didn't actually really care about. 599 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,760 And so the biggest disappointment there is 600 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,240 when I decided to shut down my podcast 601 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,200 of five and a half years, 602 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,440 when I decided to try to get all the articles 603 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,520 from like Ask Man and different places to get pulled down, 604 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,200 when I really had to just say goodbye 605 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:29,960 to something that I invested a lot of time in 606 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,440 because it was not where I wanted to go in my life. 607 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,360 It took me a year and a half to rebrand 608 00:23:34,360 --> 00:23:38,320 into people around me, in my community, online. 609 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:43,320 And that was a, I'd say not a regret at all, 610 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,940 but a poor experience of realizing 611 00:23:46,940 --> 00:23:48,940 that I should have stopped halfway. 612 00:23:48,940 --> 00:23:51,740 I should have stopped a third of the way and said, 613 00:23:51,740 --> 00:23:53,240 do you really care about this? 614 00:23:54,260 --> 00:23:56,500 Because there is something to be said about, 615 00:23:56,500 --> 00:23:59,540 go past the six month mark, go past the eight month mark 616 00:23:59,540 --> 00:24:01,180 to say, is this working? 617 00:24:01,180 --> 00:24:02,260 Is this something I care about? 618 00:24:02,260 --> 00:24:04,180 Have I gotten past the discomfort 619 00:24:04,180 --> 00:24:05,420 of doing something new, et cetera? 620 00:24:05,420 --> 00:24:07,940 But I knew early on that this wasn't for me. 621 00:24:07,940 --> 00:24:10,040 It wasn't where I wanted to take my career. 622 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,500 Even if I became incredibly famous in that industry, 623 00:24:12,500 --> 00:24:14,260 I would not have wanted to stay in it. 624 00:24:14,260 --> 00:24:16,620 And if that's the case, then you've gotta stop. 625 00:24:16,620 --> 00:24:19,180 You have to just cut ties and start investing 626 00:24:19,180 --> 00:24:21,660 in something that's more aligned with who you are. 627 00:24:21,660 --> 00:24:23,020 I love that. 628 00:24:23,020 --> 00:24:25,020 I'm glad that you figured that out 629 00:24:25,020 --> 00:24:27,620 within a five year period and not a 50 year period. 630 00:24:28,900 --> 00:24:30,580 And it's hard to do. 631 00:24:30,580 --> 00:24:32,700 I took a job during COVID. 632 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,580 While everybody came back home 633 00:24:35,580 --> 00:24:37,800 and wasn't allowed to go to an office, 634 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:39,960 I was recruited by one of my clients to come in 635 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:41,820 and be the president of their company. 636 00:24:41,820 --> 00:24:44,940 And so I actually went to an office for the first time 637 00:24:44,940 --> 00:24:47,060 since I was 22 years old. 638 00:24:47,060 --> 00:24:52,060 And a year later, as things ended in not so great fashion, 639 00:24:55,300 --> 00:24:57,660 but I was excited to come back to the reality of like, 640 00:24:57,660 --> 00:25:00,020 okay, I'm gonna go back online, 641 00:25:00,020 --> 00:25:02,300 start working with coaches and influencers 642 00:25:02,300 --> 00:25:03,540 and people who are doing major things. 643 00:25:03,540 --> 00:25:05,140 Again, that's where I'm happiest. 644 00:25:05,140 --> 00:25:08,840 It wasn't until then where I realized how miserable 645 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:10,100 I was during that year. 646 00:25:10,100 --> 00:25:11,900 I was making the most of it. 647 00:25:11,900 --> 00:25:14,740 I was like figuring out like, okay, I can figure this out. 648 00:25:14,740 --> 00:25:16,380 This is going to be, I'm gonna run a call center. 649 00:25:16,380 --> 00:25:18,820 Great, awesome, never done that before. 650 00:25:18,820 --> 00:25:20,420 I'm gonna learn everything that I can. 651 00:25:20,420 --> 00:25:21,540 And mom's gonna be happy 652 00:25:21,540 --> 00:25:24,380 because she's always wanted me to be an employee. 653 00:25:24,380 --> 00:25:27,420 So this is a great opportunity to balance life, 654 00:25:27,420 --> 00:25:28,860 grow up a little bit. 655 00:25:28,860 --> 00:25:30,960 But I'm really, again, same thing. 656 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,760 I lost a year, but at the same time I gained a lot 657 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:36,380 and I was able to escape that. 658 00:25:36,380 --> 00:25:40,300 And it would have been nice if at the six months point, 659 00:25:40,300 --> 00:25:45,300 I had the self-awareness tools to realize like faster, 660 00:25:45,860 --> 00:25:49,180 hey, this really isn't the path I should be on. 661 00:25:49,180 --> 00:25:50,220 Would have saved me some headaches. 662 00:25:50,220 --> 00:25:53,600 So glad you mentioned that as a reality. 663 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,380 You have any other thoughts on that for people who are stuck? 664 00:25:56,380 --> 00:25:57,520 Like, all right, I don't know. 665 00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:58,540 Maybe they don't think they're stuck. 666 00:25:58,540 --> 00:26:00,620 Maybe they're in somebody 20, 25 years. 667 00:26:00,620 --> 00:26:03,300 What would you do to assess whether you're stuck or not 668 00:26:03,300 --> 00:26:04,140 at that point? 669 00:26:04,140 --> 00:26:06,540 If you do your work on your values, 670 00:26:06,540 --> 00:26:07,900 you can take those keywords 671 00:26:07,900 --> 00:26:10,060 and turn them into an assessment. 672 00:26:10,060 --> 00:26:12,700 Like for example, health is my number one value. 673 00:26:12,700 --> 00:26:14,220 And then you can define that for your work. 674 00:26:14,220 --> 00:26:16,860 And then you can score your job based on that value. 675 00:26:17,740 --> 00:26:19,860 And you do that for your top five to 10 values 676 00:26:19,860 --> 00:26:20,780 and you get a total score. 677 00:26:20,780 --> 00:26:23,060 And if you're under 80 out of a hundred, 678 00:26:23,060 --> 00:26:24,260 you got some questions. 679 00:26:25,580 --> 00:26:27,700 You gotta start doing some analysis there. 680 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:29,940 That's really cool. 681 00:26:29,940 --> 00:26:32,060 I've never done that before. 682 00:26:32,060 --> 00:26:35,020 And so again, you've all given me a third tool 683 00:26:35,020 --> 00:26:39,220 for intentional journaling to mess with. 684 00:26:39,220 --> 00:26:42,300 And that, you know, define your top values, 685 00:26:42,300 --> 00:26:44,140 rate yourself on a score of one to a hundred, 686 00:26:44,140 --> 00:26:46,700 where you at versus where you wanna be. 687 00:26:46,700 --> 00:26:48,460 Or maybe you make a hundred perfection. 688 00:26:48,460 --> 00:26:49,700 I don't know, it's your call, I guess. 689 00:26:49,700 --> 00:26:51,140 It's your evaluation. 690 00:26:51,140 --> 00:26:53,780 And then guide yourself in healthy fashion 691 00:26:53,780 --> 00:26:58,000 to realize what can you do to then take steps 692 00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:59,800 to get more line of those values. 693 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:00,740 That's awesome. 694 00:27:00,740 --> 00:27:02,320 Thank you for that. 695 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:03,400 Let's dive into your business, 696 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,340 your best experience in business. 697 00:27:05,340 --> 00:27:06,540 What does that look like? 698 00:27:07,460 --> 00:27:08,700 It's today. 699 00:27:08,700 --> 00:27:09,580 It's literally today. 700 00:27:09,580 --> 00:27:10,420 It's talking to you. 701 00:27:10,420 --> 00:27:11,620 Because of the podcast. 702 00:27:11,620 --> 00:27:12,860 Yes. 703 00:27:12,860 --> 00:27:15,140 No, go ahead, Ben. 704 00:27:15,140 --> 00:27:17,220 No, it's just being able to say 705 00:27:17,220 --> 00:27:19,780 that I'm doing what I feel is meaningful 706 00:27:19,780 --> 00:27:21,260 and impactful to the world. 707 00:27:21,260 --> 00:27:24,380 Getting consistent feedback from clients 708 00:27:24,380 --> 00:27:26,340 around that specifically. 709 00:27:26,340 --> 00:27:30,180 Tangible as well as qualitative type of feedback. 710 00:27:30,180 --> 00:27:32,380 So just verbal as well as they're actually succeeding 711 00:27:32,380 --> 00:27:34,740 in life in a variety of ways. 712 00:27:34,740 --> 00:27:37,700 And honestly, the other piece I was gonna say about 713 00:27:37,700 --> 00:27:39,200 how do you know when something's off is 714 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:40,040 what's draining you? 715 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:41,980 Where do you feel exhausted and fatigue? 716 00:27:41,980 --> 00:27:43,240 Where do you feel like something's off? 717 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,120 What are the holes in your buckets? 718 00:27:45,120 --> 00:27:47,480 I don't have any holes in my career bucket. 719 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,540 And the best experience in business is realizing 720 00:27:49,540 --> 00:27:52,260 that you're doing the thing that you wanna do. 721 00:27:52,260 --> 00:27:54,180 And when you are feeling bored, 722 00:27:54,180 --> 00:27:55,780 because sometimes actually when you get to the place 723 00:27:55,780 --> 00:27:57,840 of everything's great, 724 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,100 I strive for novelty and adventure. 725 00:28:00,100 --> 00:28:02,060 As I mentioned in the beginning, 726 00:28:02,060 --> 00:28:05,280 you can feel like things are wrong because things are great. 727 00:28:06,660 --> 00:28:08,780 And so then you have to understand that 728 00:28:08,780 --> 00:28:10,160 that's not because something is wrong. 729 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,040 It's because you need, in this instance, 730 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,380 a little bit of adventure and novelty and pride. 731 00:28:16,380 --> 00:28:17,660 And so then I go off and I go, 732 00:28:17,660 --> 00:28:19,900 how am I gonna get adventure today? 733 00:28:19,900 --> 00:28:21,280 I like to actually ask, 734 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,020 how can I go above and beyond for one client today? 735 00:28:24,020 --> 00:28:25,860 What does that look like? 736 00:28:25,860 --> 00:28:27,660 It might mean going online, 737 00:28:27,660 --> 00:28:29,700 buying them a book about something that they're working on 738 00:28:29,700 --> 00:28:31,660 and shipping it to them and surprising them. 739 00:28:31,660 --> 00:28:33,620 It might mean writing a short postcard 740 00:28:33,620 --> 00:28:34,540 or letters to somebody. 741 00:28:34,540 --> 00:28:37,400 It might be learning a new assessment. 742 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,580 It might be going on a new show like this. 743 00:28:40,580 --> 00:28:41,460 Woo. 744 00:28:41,460 --> 00:28:43,200 It might be going and meeting someone in person 745 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,000 after two and a half years of meeting people virtually. 746 00:28:47,140 --> 00:28:51,580 And those are the types of things that are why right now 747 00:28:51,580 --> 00:28:54,420 is the best experience I have in business. 748 00:28:54,420 --> 00:28:57,980 I love that for a number of reasons. 749 00:28:57,980 --> 00:28:59,940 When we think of service, 750 00:28:59,940 --> 00:29:04,660 sometimes we have a tendency to think of external service 751 00:29:04,660 --> 00:29:07,500 that doesn't have to do with our occupation. 752 00:29:07,500 --> 00:29:09,620 And some people would even discredit and say, 753 00:29:09,620 --> 00:29:11,220 if the service is related to your business, 754 00:29:11,220 --> 00:29:12,940 that doesn't count. 755 00:29:12,940 --> 00:29:15,320 And honestly, their voice doesn't count. 756 00:29:16,580 --> 00:29:18,740 It's your internal voice that can guide this. 757 00:29:18,740 --> 00:29:20,780 I would deem that an act of service 758 00:29:20,780 --> 00:29:23,420 because as you go above and beyond for that client, 759 00:29:23,420 --> 00:29:24,260 you're literally saying, 760 00:29:24,260 --> 00:29:26,900 like, I'm not getting paid to do this. 761 00:29:26,900 --> 00:29:29,260 I'm not doing this for a monetary return. 762 00:29:29,260 --> 00:29:33,300 I'm doing this because I want them to feel something. 763 00:29:33,300 --> 00:29:36,580 And I want to serve them at a greater capacity 764 00:29:36,580 --> 00:29:39,220 than my scope of work entails. 765 00:29:39,220 --> 00:29:41,900 And that's gonna drive what I call clean energy 766 00:29:41,900 --> 00:29:43,620 into your spirit, into your heart, 767 00:29:43,620 --> 00:29:48,620 make you feel more aligned with the purpose, the values 768 00:29:49,540 --> 00:29:54,540 that you practice in your career, in your field of choice, 769 00:29:55,420 --> 00:29:56,260 your expertise. 770 00:29:56,260 --> 00:29:58,780 I absolutely, well, I wrote that down too, man. 771 00:29:58,780 --> 00:30:01,380 You're gonna like change my life 772 00:30:01,380 --> 00:30:02,900 in one podcast episode. 773 00:30:02,900 --> 00:30:03,740 This is cool. 774 00:30:04,860 --> 00:30:05,700 I'm enjoying it. 775 00:30:05,700 --> 00:30:08,940 I'll take a very minuscule sliver of that credit, 776 00:30:08,940 --> 00:30:11,460 but if it resonates with you, 777 00:30:11,460 --> 00:30:13,220 then you're changing your own life. 778 00:30:14,940 --> 00:30:16,980 I am writing my next book right now. 779 00:30:16,980 --> 00:30:19,900 And I tend to think very much in, 780 00:30:19,900 --> 00:30:21,380 I have like an epiphany mindset, 781 00:30:21,380 --> 00:30:23,780 meaning I kind of write in one or three liners 782 00:30:23,780 --> 00:30:25,900 and I get to the point, I get clear. 783 00:30:25,900 --> 00:30:28,860 I want it to maybe sometimes rhyme, maybe not, 784 00:30:28,860 --> 00:30:30,700 but there's something to be said 785 00:30:30,700 --> 00:30:32,300 about fortune cookie wisdom, 786 00:30:32,300 --> 00:30:35,580 like the one to three lines of advice 787 00:30:35,580 --> 00:30:39,260 that when you're ready for, it's going to mean something. 788 00:30:39,260 --> 00:30:40,100 Right. 789 00:30:40,100 --> 00:30:41,500 And then it's important about taking those phrases 790 00:30:41,500 --> 00:30:44,700 and saying, okay, then this becomes a journaling prompt. 791 00:30:44,700 --> 00:30:46,340 And now I'm gonna figure out how to integrate this 792 00:30:46,340 --> 00:30:47,540 into my life. 793 00:30:47,540 --> 00:30:49,900 Or even if I can't do this yet, 794 00:30:49,900 --> 00:30:52,940 what learning opportunities come from this phrase? 795 00:30:52,940 --> 00:30:55,220 So if it's something around confidence, 796 00:30:55,220 --> 00:30:57,540 what am I doing right now to either learn skills 797 00:30:57,540 --> 00:30:59,940 or to reframe my beliefs about myself? 798 00:30:59,940 --> 00:31:01,540 I think that's really important. 799 00:31:01,540 --> 00:31:03,220 So this was a workbook I created 800 00:31:03,220 --> 00:31:05,220 when I actually created the Live System, 801 00:31:05,220 --> 00:31:08,380 LIVE, Life Intentions, Values and Expectations. 802 00:31:08,380 --> 00:31:10,340 It's kind of a six month self coaching program 803 00:31:10,340 --> 00:31:11,660 if you wanna do that for yourself 804 00:31:11,660 --> 00:31:14,260 around life and career alignment. 805 00:31:14,260 --> 00:31:16,460 The next book that I'm writing is actually 806 00:31:16,460 --> 00:31:18,260 taking my podcast, Feel This Fridays, 807 00:31:18,260 --> 00:31:20,740 and turning it into a book about how to actually become 808 00:31:20,740 --> 00:31:23,220 fearless in your life and at work. 809 00:31:23,220 --> 00:31:27,140 Nice, awesome, so everybody have the opportunity 810 00:31:27,140 --> 00:31:29,980 to get the workbook, we'll drop the comments as well. 811 00:31:29,980 --> 00:31:31,300 Rather, drop the comments. 812 00:31:31,300 --> 00:31:33,260 We'll drop the workbook in the comments 813 00:31:33,260 --> 00:31:35,700 so that you can access it there. 814 00:31:35,700 --> 00:31:36,740 I'm gonna go back to that, 815 00:31:36,740 --> 00:31:38,900 what is draining you concept a little bit. 816 00:31:39,820 --> 00:31:43,020 And the one you mentioned right before talking about 817 00:31:43,020 --> 00:31:46,540 how can I go above and beyond for the client I'm serving. 818 00:31:46,540 --> 00:31:49,260 I definitely had that experience happen 819 00:31:49,260 --> 00:31:51,540 about three months ago. 820 00:31:51,540 --> 00:31:54,540 We had overextended as a brand a little bit. 821 00:31:54,540 --> 00:31:56,100 And as we had overextended, 822 00:31:57,660 --> 00:32:01,060 we had lots of great people working with us 823 00:32:01,060 --> 00:32:03,580 and we didn't drive the revenue growth 824 00:32:03,580 --> 00:32:06,380 that we wanted to drive in order to get to that next level. 825 00:32:06,380 --> 00:32:09,180 And so then it became kind of a burden. 826 00:32:09,180 --> 00:32:12,780 And I found myself working with people that I loved, 827 00:32:12,780 --> 00:32:17,420 but it wasn't until losing a couple of those individuals, 828 00:32:17,420 --> 00:32:20,460 having them move on, and really, frankly, 829 00:32:20,460 --> 00:32:25,380 we needed to have them move on for the sake of finances. 830 00:32:25,380 --> 00:32:27,540 Where I realized like, whoa, 831 00:32:27,540 --> 00:32:31,180 I'm no longer doing things that are making me feel good. 832 00:32:31,180 --> 00:32:35,340 I was kind of carrying the weight of the ship forward, 833 00:32:35,340 --> 00:32:37,180 mostly because we needed some of our procedures 834 00:32:37,180 --> 00:32:38,340 hammered out and worked on. 835 00:32:38,340 --> 00:32:42,060 But it was going through that painful loss 836 00:32:42,060 --> 00:32:44,740 where I began to realize like that whole process 837 00:32:44,740 --> 00:32:47,420 had been draining my energy, 838 00:32:47,420 --> 00:32:50,700 even though I was still doing the thing that I loved, 839 00:32:50,700 --> 00:32:53,140 I was bogged down by some of the day-to-day minutia 840 00:32:53,140 --> 00:32:55,220 of how I was going about doing it. 841 00:32:55,220 --> 00:32:59,460 And so it's helpful to have that, 842 00:32:59,460 --> 00:33:01,860 like you said, that fortune cookie reality 843 00:33:01,860 --> 00:33:05,860 of like, if we keep these things in our brain of these, 844 00:33:05,860 --> 00:33:10,860 let's call them remedies or tokens, what's draining me. 845 00:33:11,140 --> 00:33:13,620 If you can remember that question, 846 00:33:13,620 --> 00:33:16,820 then you can pull on that question anytime you need it. 847 00:33:16,820 --> 00:33:20,380 And life where you're starting to feel the symptom of like, 848 00:33:20,380 --> 00:33:22,340 oh man, my energy's bogging down. 849 00:33:22,340 --> 00:33:25,340 So again, I appreciate that reality. 850 00:33:25,340 --> 00:33:26,940 Hope you guys that are listening, 851 00:33:26,940 --> 00:33:29,100 again, write that down, an opportunity. 852 00:33:30,020 --> 00:33:32,140 You ship a lot of powerful, go ahead. 853 00:33:32,140 --> 00:33:34,380 I wanna respond to that for one second. 854 00:33:34,380 --> 00:33:36,100 I work with clients and there's something to laugh 855 00:33:36,100 --> 00:33:39,580 at the power of Post-its and you can totally just ignore 856 00:33:39,580 --> 00:33:40,740 something that's on your screen, 857 00:33:40,740 --> 00:33:44,380 but we are very, very simple creatures, 858 00:33:44,380 --> 00:33:46,780 even with very complex systems in our brain, 859 00:33:46,780 --> 00:33:48,300 in our mind. 860 00:33:48,300 --> 00:33:49,140 Yeah. 861 00:33:49,140 --> 00:33:50,700 We forget things. 862 00:33:50,700 --> 00:33:51,540 Yes, we do. 863 00:33:51,540 --> 00:33:52,980 So if you wanna change something in your life, 864 00:33:52,980 --> 00:33:54,940 you just have to remember it. 865 00:33:54,940 --> 00:33:57,180 And even the things that are most important to you, 866 00:33:57,180 --> 00:33:59,100 it's so easy to forget. 867 00:33:59,100 --> 00:34:01,460 Yeah, and so literally on the bottom of this Post-it, 868 00:34:01,460 --> 00:34:04,180 it says, emotions are questions. 869 00:34:04,180 --> 00:34:05,500 Be patient, you are spirit, 870 00:34:05,500 --> 00:34:06,500 create and find the adventure. 871 00:34:06,500 --> 00:34:07,820 Emotions are questions. 872 00:34:07,820 --> 00:34:08,660 Why? 873 00:34:08,660 --> 00:34:11,020 Because we feel things and sometimes we can get wrapped up 874 00:34:11,020 --> 00:34:12,140 in those emotions. 875 00:34:12,140 --> 00:34:15,900 We need to realize that they're not facts. 876 00:34:15,900 --> 00:34:17,180 They're indicators of something 877 00:34:17,180 --> 00:34:19,060 that potentially might be going on. 878 00:34:20,540 --> 00:34:22,180 I think you're right about this. 879 00:34:22,180 --> 00:34:24,980 I'm gonna double down on your Post-it notes strategy 880 00:34:24,980 --> 00:34:26,500 a little bit. 881 00:34:26,500 --> 00:34:31,500 I created this for my kiddos, as well as myself. 882 00:34:31,540 --> 00:34:35,100 And what it is, is it's got spiritual, 883 00:34:35,100 --> 00:34:38,060 mental and physical goals. 884 00:34:38,060 --> 00:34:40,220 And we write them on our Post-it notes 885 00:34:40,220 --> 00:34:43,060 so that we can take them off 886 00:34:43,060 --> 00:34:45,980 and then put them in a treasure box afterwards. 887 00:34:45,980 --> 00:34:48,900 And the goal, the intent for this, 888 00:34:49,860 --> 00:34:53,740 I didn't get by it from my other half, by the way, on that. 889 00:34:53,740 --> 00:34:55,700 But the goal was I wanted to be able to give 890 00:34:55,700 --> 00:34:59,180 these treasure boxes to my kids when they graduate, 891 00:34:59,180 --> 00:35:01,540 to take with them and have this little list 892 00:35:01,540 --> 00:35:02,940 of little diary entries of things 893 00:35:02,940 --> 00:35:04,820 that they've accomplished along the way. 894 00:35:04,820 --> 00:35:07,820 And so I try to, when they come, 895 00:35:07,820 --> 00:35:10,020 get back on track with that. 896 00:35:10,020 --> 00:35:12,580 But whether you've learned to be 897 00:35:12,580 --> 00:35:16,020 perfectly consistent or not with these types of practices, 898 00:35:16,020 --> 00:35:18,460 just begin where you are right now. 899 00:35:18,460 --> 00:35:21,500 That would be my invitation for anybody out there listening. 900 00:35:21,500 --> 00:35:24,620 It doesn't matter if you failed it at 300 times in a row, 901 00:35:24,620 --> 00:35:25,780 the next time might be the time 902 00:35:25,780 --> 00:35:28,700 that you actually fully grasp it and take advantage of it. 903 00:35:28,700 --> 00:35:31,060 So with that little lesson, 904 00:35:31,060 --> 00:35:32,660 what's another powerful lesson 905 00:35:32,660 --> 00:35:34,460 that you'd like to share with visionaries 906 00:35:34,460 --> 00:35:36,460 they can learn from your experience, Ben? 907 00:35:38,100 --> 00:35:40,660 Some people may or may not believe in this one. 908 00:35:40,660 --> 00:35:43,740 And it goes back to when I mentioned passion and purpose 909 00:35:43,740 --> 00:35:46,340 and you still are gonna have to work. 910 00:35:47,740 --> 00:35:51,220 When I was younger, I mistakenly invested all of my being, 911 00:35:51,220 --> 00:35:54,260 literally the things I watched on TV, the books I read, 912 00:35:54,260 --> 00:35:56,340 the lack of developing relationships, 913 00:35:56,340 --> 00:35:57,900 the time I invested in a purpose. 914 00:35:57,900 --> 00:36:00,540 And it was to be a professional athlete. 915 00:36:00,540 --> 00:36:04,620 And because it was so imbalanced and no one ever told me, 916 00:36:04,620 --> 00:36:07,020 Ben, I think you got the definition of that wrong, 917 00:36:07,020 --> 00:36:12,020 I ended up really digging myself into a deep hole 918 00:36:12,220 --> 00:36:14,300 of not truly understanding who I was 919 00:36:14,300 --> 00:36:17,260 and creating all my validation and self-confidence 920 00:36:17,260 --> 00:36:19,940 from something that was not giving it to me. 921 00:36:19,940 --> 00:36:21,340 And as business owners, we get there. 922 00:36:21,340 --> 00:36:22,180 What sport? 923 00:36:22,180 --> 00:36:23,380 I gotta ask. 924 00:36:23,380 --> 00:36:24,660 I played soccer. 925 00:36:24,660 --> 00:36:26,060 Okay. 926 00:36:26,060 --> 00:36:26,900 What position? 927 00:36:28,820 --> 00:36:30,540 Forward, outside mid. 928 00:36:30,540 --> 00:36:32,100 Okay. 929 00:36:32,100 --> 00:36:34,540 I know not a lot of Americans are gonna care too much 930 00:36:34,540 --> 00:36:36,900 about your position in soccer, but I'm a fan. 931 00:36:38,420 --> 00:36:39,260 It was a lot of fun. 932 00:36:39,260 --> 00:36:40,460 It taught me a lot of things. 933 00:36:40,460 --> 00:36:42,660 I kind of wonder if I was disciplined 934 00:36:42,660 --> 00:36:44,540 or if the sport made me disciplined. 935 00:36:44,540 --> 00:36:46,540 And so it's interesting the chicken or the egg thing. 936 00:36:46,540 --> 00:36:49,860 But overall, I learned a very important lesson 937 00:36:49,860 --> 00:36:51,380 from that experience. 938 00:36:51,380 --> 00:36:54,340 It actually led me down the path to personal development. 939 00:36:54,340 --> 00:36:56,180 But when it comes to defining your purpose 940 00:36:56,180 --> 00:36:57,020 and as a business owner, 941 00:36:57,020 --> 00:36:59,220 a lot of our times our businesses can become our identity. 942 00:36:59,220 --> 00:37:00,620 A lot of times when people get wrapped up 943 00:37:00,620 --> 00:37:01,860 in their careers, high achievers, 944 00:37:01,860 --> 00:37:04,700 their careers can become their identity, their job can. 945 00:37:05,620 --> 00:37:08,780 And it doesn't take much for something to disappear. 946 00:37:08,780 --> 00:37:10,620 Doesn't take much for something not to work out 947 00:37:10,620 --> 00:37:11,980 and for you to say, I'm a failure. 948 00:37:11,980 --> 00:37:13,460 I'm a waste. 949 00:37:13,460 --> 00:37:14,300 Who am I? 950 00:37:14,300 --> 00:37:16,620 All these negative beliefs that are not true. 951 00:37:17,660 --> 00:37:20,700 It's really important to remember that your passion 952 00:37:20,700 --> 00:37:22,820 and purpose is something that you created. 953 00:37:22,820 --> 00:37:26,020 So I had this idea that soccer was gonna be important to me. 954 00:37:26,020 --> 00:37:27,460 Or I had this idea that this business 955 00:37:27,460 --> 00:37:29,100 was gonna be important to me. 956 00:37:29,100 --> 00:37:30,940 And I invested all this time and energy 957 00:37:30,940 --> 00:37:34,300 and self into it to make sure that it was important to me. 958 00:37:34,300 --> 00:37:37,380 Well, guess who created that purpose 959 00:37:37,380 --> 00:37:39,780 and who's greater than that purpose 960 00:37:39,780 --> 00:37:43,100 and who will always no matter what be, 961 00:37:43,100 --> 00:37:44,060 I don't like using the word, 962 00:37:44,060 --> 00:37:46,100 but be the God of your purpose. 963 00:37:46,100 --> 00:37:47,620 It's you. 964 00:37:47,620 --> 00:37:48,820 And no matter what you create, 965 00:37:48,820 --> 00:37:50,140 you're the one that invests that time. 966 00:37:50,140 --> 00:37:52,980 You're always going to be bigger and grander, 967 00:37:52,980 --> 00:37:56,220 more magnificent and wonderful and powerful 968 00:37:56,220 --> 00:37:58,820 than whatever it is that you can create. 969 00:37:58,820 --> 00:37:59,980 And please keep that in mind. 970 00:37:59,980 --> 00:38:01,100 When something's not working out, 971 00:38:01,100 --> 00:38:02,620 it doesn't reflect on you. 972 00:38:02,620 --> 00:38:04,020 That's not who you are. 973 00:38:04,020 --> 00:38:05,860 It's a component of something that you've created 974 00:38:05,860 --> 00:38:07,860 and you can choose to create something different. 975 00:38:08,940 --> 00:38:12,420 I believe that was a well-used, very sacred version 976 00:38:12,420 --> 00:38:15,180 of using the word God in that reality personally. 977 00:38:15,180 --> 00:38:20,180 And I'm a big fan of using that word carefully as well. 978 00:38:20,540 --> 00:38:25,620 And not that anybody has to be religious in this regard, 979 00:38:25,620 --> 00:38:28,340 but Jesus did say, ye are gods. 980 00:38:28,340 --> 00:38:32,740 So did Isaiah in the Old Testament. 981 00:38:32,740 --> 00:38:36,420 And when you understand the definitions of those words, 982 00:38:36,420 --> 00:38:38,980 it becomes important and powerful to realize 983 00:38:38,980 --> 00:38:41,900 what you're capable of accomplishing in this life. 984 00:38:41,900 --> 00:38:43,460 And more importantly, like you're talking about, 985 00:38:43,460 --> 00:38:46,020 I would say is your true identity, right? 986 00:38:46,020 --> 00:38:47,900 Knowing your intrinsic value, 987 00:38:47,900 --> 00:38:50,980 that you are valuable for existing. 988 00:38:50,980 --> 00:38:52,380 I'm a big fan of the book, 989 00:38:52,380 --> 00:38:54,780 You Can't Teach a Kid to Ride a Bike at a Seminar 990 00:38:54,780 --> 00:38:56,140 by David Sandler. 991 00:38:56,140 --> 00:38:57,900 And it has chapter one. 992 00:38:57,900 --> 00:39:01,820 Like that's one of my favorite secular chapters ever. 993 00:39:01,820 --> 00:39:05,060 And it talks about your identity versus your role 994 00:39:05,060 --> 00:39:08,140 and understanding that you, like you said, 995 00:39:08,140 --> 00:39:10,300 you are valuable, 996 00:39:10,300 --> 00:39:13,500 irregardless of how well you performed in your role today, 997 00:39:13,500 --> 00:39:15,820 yesterday, this year or not, 998 00:39:15,820 --> 00:39:17,220 your identity goes beyond that. 999 00:39:17,220 --> 00:39:20,180 So thanks for the reminder on that. 1000 00:39:20,180 --> 00:39:22,100 If people wanna reach out to you and get in touch with you, 1001 00:39:22,100 --> 00:39:24,060 what's the best way for them to do that? 1002 00:39:24,060 --> 00:39:27,940 Yeah, find me on LinkedIn, Dr. Benjamin Ritter, 1003 00:39:27,940 --> 00:39:29,780 and send me a message that you heard me here. 1004 00:39:29,780 --> 00:39:31,980 I'd love to keep the conversation going. 1005 00:39:31,980 --> 00:39:33,980 If you wanna learn more about coaching services, 1006 00:39:33,980 --> 00:39:36,700 go to liveforyourselfconsulting.com. 1007 00:39:36,700 --> 00:39:39,100 You'll also be able to download your free guide, 1008 00:39:39,100 --> 00:39:41,620 your five secrets to creating a fulfilling career. 1009 00:39:42,540 --> 00:39:44,740 And please reach out. 1010 00:39:44,740 --> 00:39:47,020 There's way too many clients that we have to 1011 00:39:47,020 --> 00:39:49,420 change the belief of who can I reach out to, 1012 00:39:49,420 --> 00:39:50,780 when can I reach out to someone. 1013 00:39:50,780 --> 00:39:52,020 And just literally, 1014 00:39:52,020 --> 00:39:54,220 there's someone that you're interested in talking to, 1015 00:39:54,220 --> 00:39:55,700 send them an email, send them a message, 1016 00:39:55,700 --> 00:39:58,060 resource that that can happen. 1017 00:39:58,060 --> 00:39:59,620 I've probably experienced it. 1018 00:39:59,620 --> 00:40:01,580 It's more likely like, huh, who are you? 1019 00:40:01,580 --> 00:40:04,940 And that happens probably one out of a thousand times. 1020 00:40:04,940 --> 00:40:07,420 And even that is like, oh, I'm Ben Ritter. 1021 00:40:07,420 --> 00:40:09,060 We should have a conversation. 1022 00:40:09,060 --> 00:40:11,060 Half the time they go, okay. 1023 00:40:11,060 --> 00:40:15,260 Yes, especially when you're talking about great leaders. 1024 00:40:15,260 --> 00:40:17,900 I mean, I think that's a really great way to understand 1025 00:40:17,900 --> 00:40:19,980 who's a great leader and who's not too, 1026 00:40:19,980 --> 00:40:21,580 is if they are rude to you, 1027 00:40:21,580 --> 00:40:23,780 and they do not want you to reach out to them, 1028 00:40:23,780 --> 00:40:25,660 they're probably not as good of a leader 1029 00:40:25,660 --> 00:40:27,660 as you think they are. 1030 00:40:27,660 --> 00:40:30,100 Whereas those who are true leaders in the world, 1031 00:40:30,100 --> 00:40:32,420 they tend to want to mentor. 1032 00:40:32,420 --> 00:40:34,140 You know, they're happy to find people 1033 00:40:34,140 --> 00:40:36,740 who are willing to be that bold. 1034 00:40:36,740 --> 00:40:39,940 So doubling down for another power lesson 1035 00:40:39,940 --> 00:40:42,300 on what Ben just said, you know, your list, 1036 00:40:42,300 --> 00:40:43,460 you may have been taught in life 1037 00:40:43,460 --> 00:40:47,140 to create a list of 100 dream clients, right? 1038 00:40:47,140 --> 00:40:49,340 The 100 people you would absolutely love 1039 00:40:49,340 --> 00:40:50,820 to get to know and meet. 1040 00:40:50,820 --> 00:40:54,260 And most people stick that list away in a drawer. 1041 00:40:54,260 --> 00:40:57,100 And then, you know, someday they'll come across it again, 1042 00:40:57,100 --> 00:40:59,940 or maybe a digital archive if you're a bit younger. 1043 00:40:59,940 --> 00:41:01,660 I mean, you might have that online somewhere, 1044 00:41:01,660 --> 00:41:05,420 but actually taking the time daily to reach out 1045 00:41:05,420 --> 00:41:09,540 to two to three of those, maybe five to 10 of those, 1046 00:41:09,540 --> 00:41:11,500 it's a fantastic practice to make sure 1047 00:41:11,500 --> 00:41:15,100 that you're preparing yourself to play ball with people 1048 00:41:15,100 --> 00:41:16,380 that you admire and respect. 1049 00:41:16,380 --> 00:41:18,700 So well said, Ben. 1050 00:41:18,700 --> 00:41:20,500 If you want to also leave a comment 1051 00:41:20,500 --> 00:41:22,980 to question that you have, feel free to do so. 1052 00:41:22,980 --> 00:41:25,740 We'll forward those to Ben, make sure that he sees them. 1053 00:41:25,740 --> 00:41:28,220 Vision Pros, we're happy to have you listening to the show. 1054 00:41:28,220 --> 00:41:30,740 If any of you want to share your message, 1055 00:41:30,740 --> 00:41:33,740 don't hesitate to apply to be on our show, 1056 00:41:33,740 --> 00:41:34,940 to be a guest here. 1057 00:41:34,940 --> 00:41:38,460 You don't have to be Dr. Ritter to be on the show. 1058 00:41:38,460 --> 00:41:39,820 You don't have to be Bill Gates. 1059 00:41:39,820 --> 00:41:42,940 Yes, I put them both in the same column just now. 1060 00:41:42,940 --> 00:41:45,620 You don't have to be Michael Jordan. 1061 00:41:45,620 --> 00:41:49,620 You know, you can have a local impact vision. 1062 00:41:49,620 --> 00:41:52,100 You can have a worldwide impact vision. 1063 00:41:52,100 --> 00:41:54,620 So long as you really care about those that you're serving, 1064 00:41:54,620 --> 00:41:56,740 that's ultimately what our qualification is 1065 00:41:56,740 --> 00:41:58,100 for having you on the show. 1066 00:41:58,100 --> 00:42:01,780 And Ben, thank you for the way that you care for people 1067 00:42:01,780 --> 00:42:05,740 and for helping me advance as a host and a leader myself. 1068 00:42:05,740 --> 00:42:07,740 I really appreciate it. 1069 00:42:07,740 --> 00:42:10,220 I appreciate you helping other people's vision 1070 00:42:10,220 --> 00:42:13,780 become more clear to everyone that has their sights on you. 1071 00:42:13,780 --> 00:42:14,740 So thank you. 1072 00:42:14,740 --> 00:42:15,260 Absolutely. 1073 00:42:15,260 --> 00:42:16,620 We'll catch up a little bit after this show. 1074 00:42:16,620 --> 00:42:18,620 Everybody else, you'll have a fantastic day. 1075 00:42:18,620 --> 00:42:19,620 Bye bye.