1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,320 So after the conference, that's when I moved to this side. 2 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:09,280 So right now I'm in Riverside. 3 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:10,280 Riverside. 4 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:11,280 What was the date? 5 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:12,280 Sorry? 6 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:16,280 So after the conference, was that in June then that you moved? 7 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:17,920 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 8 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:19,400 That's awesome. 9 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:20,720 Awesome. 10 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:27,360 And the business, as far as your business goes, are these pages that you have up, are 11 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:31,720 these new pages and some new branding since we last talked? 12 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:36,000 Is it pretty much the same as it was? 13 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:40,360 It's pretty much the same as it was. 14 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:51,440 We just did a revamp on the website just to add a few things, but nothing much changed. 15 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:59,200 It is everything that we were doing, but it was not combined just to make it one year. 16 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:02,640 What are you most excited about this coming year? 17 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:03,640 This coming year? 18 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:04,640 Yeah. 19 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:08,400 Oh, business expansion, man. 20 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:12,840 I am really excited, especially about my mobile app. 21 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:19,600 Well, it is booming right now and people are jumping on to do that thing. 22 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:21,600 Yeah, man, it is like- All right. 23 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,640 Welcome in to Vision Pros Live with Jackson Calame. 24 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:25,640 I'm your show host. 25 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:30,320 We will be doing interviews for visionary entrepreneurs and guest leaders who are building 26 00:01:30,320 --> 00:01:34,040 fantastic visions out there. 27 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:42,360 Hey, what's up, Vision Pros? 28 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,600 Welcome into another episode of Vision Pros Live. 29 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:49,560 I'm your host, Jackson Calame, founder and CEO of First Class Business. 30 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:53,600 Real quick to point out a couple of new sponsors that we have for the show. 31 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:55,760 We've got ColdClick. 32 00:01:55,760 --> 00:02:02,800 ColdClick is run by InLink Advisors and it's the system that we use for our LinkedIn automation. 33 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:04,160 Why do we automate? 34 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:05,460 Why do we automate? 35 00:02:05,460 --> 00:02:08,320 For us, we keep it as simple as possible. 36 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:10,360 It's about a genuine connection. 37 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:12,800 The genuine connection doesn't happen right away though. 38 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:17,520 You have to account for stranger danger and that's what most marketers fail to realize. 39 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:21,160 When I talk about automation and making sure that we're getting in front of people, it's 40 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:24,240 all about making sure that you just intrigue people. 41 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:29,240 You create a little bit of attraction and usually that's best done by a simple, hi, 42 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:30,640 how are you? 43 00:02:30,640 --> 00:02:33,440 And letting them investigate and view your profile. 44 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:34,960 So a few little tips there. 45 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:39,340 ColdClick helps us in the strategy of how to implement that though with VAs and making 46 00:02:39,340 --> 00:02:44,360 sure that our accounts don't get banned and the process of connecting with lots of people. 47 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:49,800 But ultimately we set up the type of target audience that we want to connect with and 48 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:51,880 then from there we get those messages in order. 49 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:56,500 So I'll reveal a little bit more about that every time we do a show. 50 00:02:56,500 --> 00:02:58,680 Then there's SimplyFast websites. 51 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,640 Now I haven't used SimplyFast personally. 52 00:03:01,640 --> 00:03:07,000 I don't need to use that, but Shane Michael is building a solution to help early stage 53 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:08,480 entrepreneurs. 54 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:12,200 People who are still on the entrepreneur stage as well, they haven't started yet, but they're 55 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:13,320 thinking about it. 56 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:18,160 I was really impressed with the platform they built out to provide simple, affordable websites 57 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:24,040 to people that also look pretty well optimized considering that the brand is just getting 58 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:25,040 started out. 59 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:29,000 I know how helpful it would have been for me to have had a $200 website, for instance. 60 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:33,900 There's somewhere in the range of $200 to $300 and I was like, wow, that's cool. 61 00:03:33,900 --> 00:03:34,900 That's a great vision. 62 00:03:34,900 --> 00:03:38,560 Now you can always go with Wix or Squarespace or any one of those platforms and build your 63 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:39,660 own website out. 64 00:03:39,660 --> 00:03:41,120 Don't get me wrong. 65 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:44,120 It's best to start with the free solution. 66 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:45,280 I really vibed well with him. 67 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,080 I was like, this really makes a lot of sense. 68 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,000 He's going to be coming up on the show soon too. 69 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:51,840 I'm always looking for new solutions. 70 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,000 I know people are like, man, don't do sponsors. 71 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:55,560 Some people say, don't do sponsors. 72 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:56,560 I hate it. 73 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:58,800 Well, it's not about forcing something. 74 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:03,060 It's about making sure that if I come across a great resource, I'm putting it out there 75 00:04:03,060 --> 00:04:05,200 for you to also be able to utilize it. 76 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,920 Both of these are unpaid sponsors. 77 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:12,480 They're people that I just really enjoy working with and I wanted to get some attention on 78 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:13,480 them. 79 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:19,960 Also, in addition to that, over here to the Water Project, if you are in the mood to give 80 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:25,480 back, if you see the opportunity to be able to bless somebody's life, whether it's a dollar, 81 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:29,520 a hundred, a hundred thousand dollars, the Water Project does a great job of showing 82 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:34,340 transparently what they do with the money and the communities that they're helping support. 83 00:04:34,340 --> 00:04:36,200 We have access to clean drinking water. 84 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:40,280 There are so many people in the world who don't that I try to take every opportunity 85 00:04:40,280 --> 00:04:45,040 I can to promote this because I just think it's amazing that they dedicate their time, 86 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:49,120 their life to helping these people get access to clean drinking water. 87 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:52,280 So if you get a chance, go ahead and support that. 88 00:04:52,280 --> 00:04:58,560 And without further ado, my next guest, he is also from Africa. 89 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:04,840 He probably knows a little bit about those types of needs from his past life. 90 00:05:04,840 --> 00:05:06,840 We're going to be talking to Mr. M. Dongo. 91 00:05:06,840 --> 00:05:11,280 Now, this is what's really cool is when I launched this podcast, it was the week or 92 00:05:11,280 --> 00:05:15,240 two before going to Kajabi Hero Live. 93 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:17,400 And I went there, I set up my shop. 94 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:21,680 I'm going to pull up a little, a couple of pictures here real quick. 95 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:25,200 Let me just share my screen, pull that up. 96 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:31,240 And Mr. Dongo, Munya, Mr. M. Dongo, if you want to look him up online, this is him. 97 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:35,160 He came up to my studio, which was in my hotel room. 98 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:39,400 And I got this great view of the city of Austin, great view of the river. 99 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,480 And so it was pretty inspiring. 100 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:45,480 And I got a couple of excellent guests to come up and speak with me. 101 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:52,280 Well, Mr. Dongo is somebody who was on the banners at Kajabi Live because he's done 102 00:05:52,280 --> 00:05:56,120 such an awesome job of building out his business with their platform. 103 00:05:56,120 --> 00:06:02,360 We have 60,000 member, course owners who have launched on their platform, people who create 104 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:03,360 content. 105 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:07,160 And you can see his picture over here on the right hand side as Priya Parker takes the 106 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:08,320 stage. 107 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:15,160 He's kind of like one of the poster children, literally, of Kajabi here. 108 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:20,240 And I just, I really enjoyed getting to know him and didn't know his story and hearing 109 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:23,320 how he came up with the solutions he did. 110 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,400 He is a man of no excuses. 111 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:32,600 That's also something I really love about Munya is he believes in making sure that we 112 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,840 take accountability for our lives and we move forward. 113 00:06:35,840 --> 00:06:40,240 He grew up in a co-parenting situation that gave him tremendous strength. 114 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:41,640 And I'm not sure what happened there. 115 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:46,440 We might talk about it a little bit, but I will say that, you know, he mentions in his 116 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,560 website that it affected his ability to speak. 117 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:53,720 It affected his ability to probably learn and those of us who come from backgrounds 118 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:59,360 where, you know, we are our parents may have caused certain traumas. 119 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,360 I can relate to that with my own father. 120 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:07,240 Then I know exactly what he's talking about having to overcome and what he's done to 121 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:11,040 dedicate himself to helping people with automation, to helping people build their businesses, 122 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:14,200 to helping people scale is just absolutely inspiring. 123 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:20,360 And so without further ado, Munya, thank you so much for joining us on Vision Pros Live. 124 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:25,120 I'm excited to have you here and let's get rolling with your interview. 125 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:27,120 I'm so excited. 126 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:28,120 Awesome. 127 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:29,920 I'm so excited, man. 128 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:31,000 How are you? 129 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:32,580 I'm excited to have you. 130 00:07:32,580 --> 00:07:34,880 It's been far too long since we caught up. 131 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:42,120 So it feels like a week ago that it was June 1st and it's October. 132 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:43,800 I can't believe that. 133 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,120 I can't believe it's October already. 134 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,120 It's been half a year. 135 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:50,120 Yeah. 136 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:53,120 I can't believe that. 137 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:57,320 Yesterday I was like, how long have I been in America? 138 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:02,960 Because I am still saying, you know, I've been here just two months ago. 139 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:04,840 I've been here for the past two months. 140 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,800 Only to find out that it's been it's almost six months. 141 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:09,800 I'm like, really now? 142 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:10,800 Yes. 143 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:12,080 Oh, man, it has. 144 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:16,920 Now, Mounia, I kind of went over the road and there's a lot of principles that I hope 145 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:21,360 people are willing to gain from your experience in addition to some business strategies that 146 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:22,360 we can talk about. 147 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:26,640 But from your perspective, who should be listening in today? 148 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:28,840 Why should they listen to you specifically? 149 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:32,160 And what do you think they're going to get out of the show? 150 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:33,160 Great question. 151 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:41,840 Well, I would say if you are a person, like a human being, that's where we are actually 152 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:42,840 starting. 153 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:43,840 We are not talking to carols. 154 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:44,840 We are not talking to elephants. 155 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:45,840 We are talking to... 156 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:46,840 No charge GBTs. 157 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:47,840 No charge GBTs. 158 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:58,080 So the first qualification, you have to be a human being who has something that I mean, 159 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:05,960 a human being who knows that they have something to share and they have a story to tell and 160 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,760 a skill to share. 161 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:16,120 Somebody who believe that they have something bigger than themselves and they have something 162 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:21,280 that they can give out to the world right now currently and make our world a better 163 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:24,000 place than it was before they were here. 164 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:31,080 So if you know that you are somebody who have got something that you know that this is worth 165 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:40,080 sharing and a human being who is still breathing today, who is still alive to today, I can 166 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:44,680 say you need to listen to this because you are in for a treat. 167 00:09:44,680 --> 00:09:46,160 Yes, absolutely. 168 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:47,160 Okay. 169 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:56,160 And when I met you, you had already crossed within Kajabi the $100,000 mark of earnings 170 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:57,800 through Kajabi. 171 00:09:57,800 --> 00:09:59,240 And where are you from? 172 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,600 Where did you live before moving to California this year? 173 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:14,360 Well, originally I'm from Zimbabwe and I grew up in Zim, my primary and my high school level 174 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:19,880 and then I moved to South Africa like 10 years ago, I can say. 175 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:24,800 So I've been staying in South Africa for the past plus or minus 10 years now. 176 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:29,520 And you're 20 years old, but how old are you? 177 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:34,920 Well, I just turned 27 like two months now. 178 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:35,920 Okay. 179 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,640 In August, yeah, on August 25th. 180 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:44,560 So you were 17 when you moved to South Africa. 181 00:10:44,560 --> 00:10:46,600 What was the change like for you? 182 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:48,920 I mean, I've never lived in Zimbabwe. 183 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:53,560 I don't think I've ever met somebody who's from Zimbabwe and there's probably different 184 00:10:53,560 --> 00:10:56,480 classes there too and then South Africa as well. 185 00:10:56,480 --> 00:11:01,680 So do you mind giving us some paradigm, some perspective on what's that like? 186 00:11:01,680 --> 00:11:14,160 Yeah, well, I can say the move from Zimbabwe to South Africa was a little bit bigger in 187 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:19,080 a sense of like what South Africa, it is big economy wise. 188 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:26,200 A lot of people, they always say that South Africa is the first world in a third world 189 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:27,200 country. 190 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:32,800 So they said it's a first world country in a third world country because the standards 191 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:38,480 there and the kind of lifestyle, it is more modernized. 192 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:45,480 Okay, back then it was more modernized than Zimbabwe. 193 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:53,680 Even though right now ZIM is also like catching up now, but cultural wise, South Africa, it's 194 00:11:53,680 --> 00:12:01,960 more modernized in a, I can say it's more westernized than Zimbabwe. 195 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:07,360 And yeah, that was like the big cultural shock that was there. 196 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:12,120 But the love of people, it is to one end the same. 197 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:21,040 People in South Africa influence ZIM more, we love people, we are Africans. 198 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,800 That's like one of our common ground. 199 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:29,720 And then I can say that the other big shift that was there was the economy. 200 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:35,600 Even though when I moved to South Africa, I wasn't like deep into the economy because 201 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:41,240 I just finished my high school and then quickly moved to South Africa. 202 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:46,720 So the economy world I know entirely back and forth, inside out, is the South African 203 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:47,720 one. 204 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:52,600 And then there's Zimbabwe, I was more scared to go back to Zimbabwe. 205 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:56,840 I was actually visiting because of the things that we see on news. 206 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:03,680 Yeah, even though I was just like next door, it was like completely different. 207 00:13:03,680 --> 00:13:08,560 What you hear and what I see on news that is happening across the border. 208 00:13:08,560 --> 00:13:11,880 It is not really what's happening on the ground. 209 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:16,160 So I was more scared to go back home. 210 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,720 And then when I go back, like, oh, really, this is something else. 211 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:22,560 This is different from what we always see. 212 00:13:22,560 --> 00:13:27,800 So I would encourage somebody out there saying that one thing that I learned a lot by staying 213 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:36,920 in South Africa, as I went by, is don't always believe what you see on news because what 214 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,880 you see on the world, they just give you watch styles. 215 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:44,960 They are also in business of selling, of actually getting eyeballs. 216 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,640 So don't always believe what you see on news. 217 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:48,640 Africa is beautiful. 218 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:49,880 Africa is really good. 219 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:53,960 Africa is an amazing place to be. 220 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:59,040 Not everything that you literally see on news is exactly what is happening on the ground. 221 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:00,040 Well, right. 222 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:03,480 And the news is chasing a story, right? 223 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,280 They're trying to chase something of interest. 224 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:12,360 They're storytellers more than they are reporters of the whole truth these days. 225 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:13,360 Maybe it's always been that way. 226 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:14,360 I don't know. 227 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:15,440 I haven't been around forever. 228 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:19,160 But with that, thank you for the perspective on that. 229 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:24,680 I want to go into what's your vision for those that you serve in 30 seconds. 230 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:25,680 What do you do for people? 231 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:27,880 How do you help them? 232 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:33,280 I help people to start to restructure and scale their businesses to six or seven figures 233 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:37,080 through telling their story and sharing their skills. 234 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:41,240 Because I believe everybody have a story to tell and a skill to share. 235 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:42,240 Awesome. 236 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:46,400 Start, restructure and scale their businesses. 237 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:47,880 You do all three of those. 238 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:49,580 I do all your three of those. 239 00:14:49,580 --> 00:14:56,120 And I use three weapons, which is entrepreneurship training, business coaching and automation. 240 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:57,120 Very good. 241 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,000 I've seen the tag, the Mr. Automator. 242 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:00,000 I like that. 243 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,000 All right. 244 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:04,000 They give me that. 245 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:08,840 I think this is a cool name. 246 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:09,840 I like that. 247 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:10,840 Good for you. 248 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:11,840 You didn't self-proclaim it. 249 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:12,840 They gave you that. 250 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:13,840 That makes sense. 251 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:15,160 Good stuff. 252 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:18,440 And what's your personal vision? 253 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:25,360 What are you looking forward to over the next five, 10, 15 years of your life? 254 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:29,320 Man, my vision is really big. 255 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:39,600 I believe what prompted me to start to do what I'm doing right now is because I struggled 256 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:49,680 a lot to be where I was there, which is a place of knowing who am I and what am I capable 257 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:51,800 of doing. 258 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:56,800 And when I finally figured that out, I then looked back. 259 00:15:56,800 --> 00:16:04,080 And when I looked back, man, I saw there were thousands and millions of other people who 260 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:13,160 were still stuck doing the same thing that took me years for me to overcome, which is 261 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:20,000 making excuses and not knowing who you are and not knowing what are you capable of doing. 262 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:29,520 So my vision is I'm not going to stop until I see those that I can be able to touch their 263 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:36,480 lives doing the same, living a life full of purpose, living a not-excuse life, and living 264 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:44,320 a life of not being selfish, knowing that I have a story to tell and I have a skill 265 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:46,240 to share. 266 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:52,320 God entrusted me with that story, and God entrusted me with those skills for me to share 267 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:53,600 with everyone. 268 00:16:53,600 --> 00:17:03,320 So my vision is that I need to see those around me and those that I can touch living the life 269 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:08,720 that they were meant to live and living a purposeful life and not-excuse life. 270 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:15,640 Because if the day will say no excuse, the day this world will change, the day we will 271 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:21,480 get out of the house and say, wow, what a beautiful world, because we know that we are 272 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:23,480 living a not-excuse life. 273 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:25,600 So that is my vision. 274 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:31,000 So it is really big, and I don't know how I'm going to achieve that, but I know from 275 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:37,480 when I started to where I am now, I think we actually got a pretty long way now. 276 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:40,400 37 countries, it is pretty long. 277 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:41,400 Absolutely. 278 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:42,880 I love that. 279 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:49,720 And there are people whose demeanors, you can see, you can feel the happiness that they 280 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:50,720 have access to. 281 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:54,560 You can feel the joy, you can feel the purpose, the peace, all of that. 282 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:58,800 I find that comes best when we are serving others. 283 00:17:58,800 --> 00:17:59,800 We don't lose sight of that. 284 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:05,680 So it is pretty awesome that you know that dedicating your life to that makes a lot of 285 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:06,680 sense. 286 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:15,080 So let's make a quick transition and a dark transition to what is your worst business 287 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:20,280 experience ever? 288 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:23,280 What's my worst business experience ever? 289 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:24,280 Interesting. 290 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:27,280 It's not this interview, right? 291 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:40,080 Yeah, I'm like, well, let me start by telling you what was my most embarrassing moment in 292 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:41,080 my career. 293 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:49,440 I've been wanting to share this story, but I was like, when can I share about this? 294 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:52,280 So when I saw it, because I was like, oh, really? 295 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:53,280 Let me tell you that. 296 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:54,280 Let's hit it. 297 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:55,280 Most embarrassing story. 298 00:18:55,280 --> 00:19:02,280 To those who are going to listen to this story, to those who know what happened. 299 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:07,600 I'm glad that there were not a lot of people at that time. 300 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:11,280 So I was ready to jump on the stage. 301 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:16,400 That was my second ever event. 302 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:24,320 Then I'm wearing a mic, the speaker is inside, and people were already busy dancing to the 303 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:25,720 music. 304 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:30,760 I didn't notice that the mic was on. 305 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:33,760 Then my phone rang. 306 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:38,320 Then my phone rang. 307 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:42,160 Listen, when you are running an event, don't have your phone. 308 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:43,160 Give it to your team. 309 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:44,160 Okay? 310 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:45,160 Give it to your team. 311 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:46,160 Let your team handle that. 312 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:50,440 But by that time, I didn't have that big of a team as well. 313 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:52,680 Then my phone rang. 314 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:59,520 So this person, we've been calling me all, like for the past two hours, dude, I'm going 315 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:01,520 to call you when I get home. 316 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:03,280 I will call you when I get home. 317 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:07,160 I'll call you when I get home. 318 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:08,520 Then the person called. 319 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,280 I'm about to go on stage. 320 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:15,280 I have got three hours with these people that I need to spend. 321 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:25,080 Now, like, dude, I'm on my way, only to find out that the mic is on and whatever I'm saying, 322 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:28,800 it's going and I'm like, dude, I'm on my way. 323 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,800 I'm going to call you in 30 minutes. 324 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:32,800 And it was loud. 325 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:38,600 I didn't even notice that it is like everybody who was in the hall in the conference room 326 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:42,320 was listening to what I was saying. 327 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:43,320 Live hot mics. 328 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,960 I had to watch out for those. 329 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:58,000 Then I went in and then one of my church friends who was there, you are still on your way home. 330 00:20:58,000 --> 00:20:59,720 I'm like, was it live? 331 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:01,920 Yeah, everybody heard about it? 332 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,440 And then I just went on stage. 333 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:12,120 I used that as my icebreaker. 334 00:21:12,120 --> 00:21:16,640 I think quickly, let me use that. 335 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:21,120 One of my most embarrassing moments, if I was not somebody who can think on their feet, 336 00:21:21,120 --> 00:21:23,000 it was going to be crazy. 337 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:28,800 And then one of my worst business experience, I'm still trying to think that happened to 338 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:32,560 me or that I did to somebody else. 339 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:40,120 So if I can say the worst business, I'm really trying to think because I'm somebody who always 340 00:21:40,120 --> 00:21:42,440 turns things up and down. 341 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:48,280 I can say the worst business experience was me hiring wrong people. 342 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:53,920 And this happened in 2017. 343 00:21:53,920 --> 00:22:02,160 And then when this happened in 2017, that's when in my book I wrote a story of I learned 344 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:03,160 through it. 345 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:07,480 I got through it. 346 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:15,080 That business experience that happened there of me hiring wrong people, it took me from 347 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:23,880 earning over 50 to like 30 to 50,000 as a 21 year old kid to go into over 150,000 rand 348 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:24,880 in debt. 349 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:33,880 That's like from earning, but by that time from earning three to four thousand dollars 350 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:41,600 and go into 10 to 12 thousand dollars in debt. 351 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:42,960 Just like that. 352 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,640 Just because I hired wrong people. 353 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:51,880 Well, I didn't talk much into detail about that story. 354 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:58,120 And I'm still not going to talk about who did what and then what did they do and what 355 00:22:58,120 --> 00:22:59,920 happened whatsoever. 356 00:22:59,920 --> 00:23:04,720 But yeah, it was one worst business experience. 357 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:11,600 So what I can tell is that hire the right people, have the right people in your cycle 358 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:15,600 and have the right people in your corner because that is the most important thing that you 359 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:16,600 can do. 360 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:27,880 Yes, hiring people that are a thing like hiring people that are what did I say that are a 361 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,400 bit expensive or that are qualified. 362 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:37,720 Yeah, it might be expensive, but that might be the best decision you can do for yourself. 363 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:42,840 So always and always do that and don't hire wrong people. 364 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:46,480 It is one thing that I can just give you as an advice. 365 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:50,560 So always try to have the right people in your corner. 366 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,960 So there's a compound effect, right? 367 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:58,560 An exponential effect that occurs when you bring somebody into your business or into 368 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,120 your life. 369 00:24:01,120 --> 00:24:08,680 And that compound effect depends on whether they do good things or bad things. 370 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:14,560 So if you bring somebody into your operation that causes problems, they're going to create 371 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:20,680 twice as many problems twice as fast as before being involved in the operation. 372 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:25,260 So knowing how to vet people is a very important skill set to learn. 373 00:24:25,260 --> 00:24:28,800 So let's shift gears to the opposite side of the spectrum. 374 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,760 What's your best experience in business? 375 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:37,520 Oh man, the best experience is when I set goals and achieve them. 376 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,520 Oh my goodness, I love that. 377 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:52,520 And also when I get testimonials, there is nothing that really put a smile on my face, 378 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:58,820 not money, but the feedback that I get from my clients. 379 00:24:58,820 --> 00:25:04,880 Something that when I get somebody say, Mwanya, thank you. 380 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,000 I am this because of you. 381 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:19,600 And funny thing, Jack, is that sometimes we do things not knowing that this thing is creating 382 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:23,320 an impact in somebody's life. 383 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:30,400 Sometimes you say something not knowing how powerful it is to somebody else. 384 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:38,960 And then two years later, you get a call and say, because of you, this is what happened. 385 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,880 Then I'll be like, what? 386 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:42,960 Really? 387 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:47,840 Or six months later, somebody caught you. 388 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,480 Six months later, somebody caught you from what you have said. 389 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,560 And then I'll be like, oh, this happened. 390 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,320 I'll be like, wow. 391 00:25:56,320 --> 00:26:05,520 So the best experience in my business is when I get results, when I get testimonials, that 392 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:10,080 is the best time of my business. 393 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,880 They're like the best time of my everyday life. 394 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:21,360 When I get those videos, man, when somebody say, Mwanya, because of this, I am thriving. 395 00:26:21,360 --> 00:26:24,560 My business is soaring like an eagle. 396 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,000 I'll be like, what? 397 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:32,800 When somebody is saying, because of you, this is happening, this is this, then I'll be like, 398 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,320 wow, this is crazy, man. 399 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:35,320 This is crazy. 400 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,400 So that's the best thing. 401 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:51,160 And then also, or maybe the best aha moment or the best time of my career is off was, 402 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,420 it's actually true, actually. 403 00:26:53,420 --> 00:26:57,040 And I found myself on the same stage with amazing Les Brown. 404 00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:06,800 I was like, wow, this little kid was stammering, who didn't know what to do. 405 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:16,320 We wouldn't even know that it is possible for you to to end a living through talking. 406 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:20,080 Well, this kid was a noisemaker at school. 407 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:27,040 You know, right now, he's now being the one who has been beaten at school because of causing 408 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,640 noise because of noise making. 409 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:34,660 Right now, he's being paid for him to go and talk, man. 410 00:27:34,660 --> 00:27:38,240 That realization was like, wow, I'm so grateful. 411 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:39,240 Yeah. 412 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,120 So so those are like my my peak moment. 413 00:27:42,120 --> 00:27:49,120 And also, when I was on the big screen at Kajabi, I was like, man, what happened here? 414 00:27:49,120 --> 00:27:50,120 It was like everywhere. 415 00:27:50,120 --> 00:27:52,680 You know, like I'm the only person right there. 416 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:56,360 Like everything, even on their screen, on their live stream, it was everyone like, oh, 417 00:27:56,360 --> 00:27:58,560 my goodness, I don't know what's happening. 418 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,320 But it was just like, oh, thank you, Lord. 419 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:02,320 That's awesome. 420 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:08,560 Hey, man, I love I love the enthusiasm and the fact that you actually turn to principles 421 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:13,400 for that, too, of like my best moments or when I accomplish my goals, when I get testimonials, 422 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:18,880 like, you know, you know, your triggers for happiness, you know, and for success. 423 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,800 And that's that's powerful in and of itself. 424 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:32,080 Let's dive into one powerful lesson that other visionaries can learn from your experience. 425 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,840 Let me talk about no excuse. 426 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:46,400 You know, man, I was this young kid who was so big visionary. 427 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,560 You know, I love this. 428 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,000 He's saying vision pros. 429 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,560 Man, I had a vision. 430 00:28:52,560 --> 00:29:01,560 You know, I had a vision at some point, because at some point I used to walk for two hours 431 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:05,120 to school in my high school. 432 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:13,400 And then most of the most of my way, like most of this journey, I'll be alone because 433 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:14,760 it was in farms. 434 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,240 So I'll be alone going to school. 435 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:19,240 Guess what? 436 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,920 Those were my best moment. 437 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,460 My me time that day, two hours. 438 00:29:24,460 --> 00:29:29,200 So I could go and then I'll just look at the trees. 439 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,000 I'll look at the sky. 440 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:32,000 I look at everything. 441 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:37,040 I'll be like, man, one day I'm going to be big. 442 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:46,720 But then I remember that I was tumbling and I didn't know what in my family and all of 443 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:52,760 the people that I knew, there's nobody who was really successful that I could use as 444 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,480 an example. 445 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,560 Then I moved to South Africa. 446 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:09,760 I'm there in a foreign land as a black young kid who doesn't have university education. 447 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:17,320 And who is now going into businesses and say, hey, I can help you grow your business. 448 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:25,560 Later on that, I mean, at the same time, that young kid doesn't even not even have a car. 449 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:31,840 You know, he failed in his first business, but he's still going into other business and 450 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,860 say, you know what, I think I can help you. 451 00:30:34,860 --> 00:30:41,400 I think I have ideas that can help you. 452 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:49,480 All those things that I am telling you, we're supposed to work as my excuses. 453 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:53,960 I'm not sharing this to brag or whatsoever. 454 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:59,520 These were some of the things that were supposed to be my excuses. 455 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:07,680 I was supposed to use my age as my excuse because who goes in a corporate and say, you 456 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:14,880 know what, I worked, look what I've done in my network marketing. 457 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:24,040 I can still spin the same thing and teach yourselves first and teach your sales department 458 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,680 and show them how to make money. 459 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,200 How can they close more sales? 460 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,080 I can show them how to present. 461 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:35,560 Look, I am going out there training at the companies, training at the network marketers, 462 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:39,160 but I can still use the same thing in your company as a 21 year old. 463 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:46,720 Who goes in a company like Alan Gray, it's a multinational company and go into the head 464 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,480 office of Africa and say, you know what, I can change this. 465 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:55,020 And then they say, yeah, well, I think we can give you a shot. 466 00:31:55,020 --> 00:31:58,880 You know, all those things were supposed to be as my excuses. 467 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:07,040 I failed in my, by that time in my network marketing and went from earning 50,000 to 468 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:11,600 go into 150,000 rent in debt. 469 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:18,120 And it made the news because I was well known both in the company and also some people went 470 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,240 and started bashing me on social media. 471 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,720 I could have used that as an excuse. 472 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,920 What other excuses are you using out there? 473 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:28,920 What other excuses are you using out there? 474 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,040 Are you using your kids as your excuses? 475 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,280 Are you using your failures as your excuses? 476 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:34,280 Let me tell you one thing. 477 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,440 Your kids must be your motivation. 478 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:42,780 Your failures must be your inspiration of, well, I have failed once. 479 00:32:42,780 --> 00:32:45,120 That is not my end game. 480 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,320 That is not the end of me. 481 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,800 How many other people failed, man? 482 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:51,200 Is your marriage failing? 483 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,120 How many other people divorced? 484 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:57,960 How many people divorced one week after the wedding of the century? 485 00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,960 But they went there and divorced. 486 00:32:59,960 --> 00:33:03,360 And then there you are still there stuck in your house. 487 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:04,360 You are still there. 488 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:10,920 You are still there stuck somewhere thinking that my life is done. 489 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:12,400 All my life has ended. 490 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:13,400 All this is done. 491 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:14,400 No, man. 492 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,360 That's not it, man. 493 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:17,360 That's not it. 494 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,320 It's not it. 495 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,320 No excuse can be valid. 496 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:22,480 That's what I always say. 497 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,400 I say there is no excuse that is valid. 498 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:29,400 If there is nothing else you can learn from my life. 499 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:30,900 Just learn this thing. 500 00:33:30,900 --> 00:33:33,480 No excuse is valid. 501 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:37,880 Look, I moved to California. 502 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:39,380 I didn't know anybody. 503 00:33:39,380 --> 00:33:42,440 I don't have family here in the United States. 504 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,560 I don't have any family. 505 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:52,440 The family that I have, the people that I met online, those people that I met online 506 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,920 are the people, my clients are around here. 507 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,640 Those are my family that I have right here. 508 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:05,840 But look, man, I am still here and my business is actually growing in a foreign land. 509 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:12,880 I was like, I think I have a soft spot in foreign lands because I always thrive in foreign 510 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:13,880 land. 511 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,360 I think I should be going foreign land each and every time. 512 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,320 Look, man, I am here and I am still doing this. 513 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:24,600 This is supposed to be the biggest excuse I can offer. 514 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:25,600 You know what? 515 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:26,600 I just moved to the state. 516 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,320 I don't know anyone. 517 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,320 I don't know anyone. 518 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:36,840 So I think it's going to take me seven years for me to start. 519 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:44,440 Man, imagine I jumped in here and hosted my very first event within my first two weeks 520 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:45,720 of being in the state. 521 00:34:45,720 --> 00:34:49,360 Hosted the very first event, it was super successful. 522 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:50,440 Who does that? 523 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:57,520 So one thing you can learn, one thing you can learn is that there is no excuse that 524 00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:58,520 is valid. 525 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:02,600 There is no excuse that is valid. 526 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,480 It can be valid for you. 527 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,440 You know what, Jackson? 528 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:12,240 You can say, you know, man, I'm too white or I'm too young. 529 00:35:12,240 --> 00:35:13,560 I'm too old. 530 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:14,560 I'm too this. 531 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:19,840 Well, let me tell you, I have clients who will be like, I think I was born in a wrong 532 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:20,840 skin. 533 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:25,480 I'll be like, hey, you were born in a right packaging. 534 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,560 You just need to use that to your own advantage. 535 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:28,840 It doesn't matter. 536 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:32,680 You are white, you are green, you are black, you are pink, you are whatsoever. 537 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,240 That's your key. 538 00:35:34,240 --> 00:35:38,240 You know, that's your ticket to success. 539 00:35:38,240 --> 00:35:42,900 Use that in a world of racism, in a world of whatsoever. 540 00:35:42,900 --> 00:35:46,960 Use that because there is no excuse that is valid. 541 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:54,640 In a world of failing marriages, failing businesses, failing whatsoever, use that to your own advantage 542 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,200 because there is no excuse that is valid. 543 00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,520 Really literally. 544 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:10,520 In my book, I have 16 excuses that they can make, like 16 excuses that they can make. 545 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:11,520 And then guess what? 546 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:18,920 I gave them 16 medicine or 16 steps to stop those excuses as well. 547 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:23,160 Because there's literally there is no excuse that is valid. 548 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,240 You can say, my children, I'm not educated enough. 549 00:36:26,240 --> 00:36:29,640 I don't have time. 550 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:30,640 I don't have opportunities. 551 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,440 Well, I'm too young. 552 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:34,440 I'm too old. 553 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:40,120 Especially right now with the online business where I am pushing everybody say, you know 554 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:48,040 what, you can make billions online by you just sharing your story and sharing your skill 555 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:53,800 online with those who really want to learn from that. 556 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:58,360 What I can tell is that, you know what, you don't need to be too young. 557 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,000 You don't need to be too old. 558 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,200 That's your advantage. 559 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:07,720 You can go, you can actually go and say, you know what, I am 60 years old, but look what 560 00:37:07,720 --> 00:37:09,600 I have created. 561 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,000 And people don't jump and buy from you. 562 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:16,360 Look, I am 18 years old, but look what I have created. 563 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,640 Right now I go and say, look, man, I'm just 27. 564 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,820 Look what I have created. 565 00:37:21,820 --> 00:37:25,520 I have clients in 37 countries right now. 566 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:32,520 And in those clients, I started building them for the past five years, five, six years. 567 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:37,160 I've been starting to build this and growing and doing this and doing this and doing this. 568 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:43,920 COVID was supposed to be the biggest excuse for so many people and so many companies closed 569 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:48,240 and so many companies thrive, you know, and guess what? 570 00:37:48,240 --> 00:37:50,700 COVID was a blessing to me. 571 00:37:50,700 --> 00:37:55,800 So I could have used that as an excuse, but I use that as an advantage to me. 572 00:37:55,800 --> 00:38:05,040 So the biggest lesson you can learn out there is that the excuse can be valid to you or 573 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,000 it cannot be valid to you. 574 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:11,520 But what I know is that no excuse is valid. 575 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:17,440 And the success flag and the success ground in this world, there is no excuse that is 576 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:24,960 valid because I want you to think of all the things that have prevented you from becoming 577 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:25,960 a better person. 578 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:32,840 All the things that prevented you from thriving and becoming a great person. 579 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:40,720 I want you to look into them and say, was this an excuse or was this an excuse? 580 00:38:40,720 --> 00:38:42,600 Nothing else. 581 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,760 Was this an excuse or was this an excuse? 582 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:51,760 There's nothing else because you can't categorize it in any other thing apart from an excuse. 583 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:55,120 Yeah, you lost your job. 584 00:38:55,120 --> 00:39:01,880 And then you went and stay at home and try to commit suicide and work back inside drinking 585 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,460 and go into drugs. 586 00:39:04,460 --> 00:39:08,600 Is that an excuse or is that an excuse? 587 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:13,640 Because losing a job, how many people who are losing jobs and go inside building multi-billion 588 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:17,880 dollar business just because they lost their business? 589 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:22,560 Let's unpack a little bit of that. 590 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:29,920 So you mentioned in the beginning, you mentioned having face shame in the news, for instance. 591 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:35,480 And yes, that is something that somebody can use as an excuse to derail themselves and 592 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:36,520 to give up. 593 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:41,360 And then I look at somebody, again, no judgments on this, but look at somebody like Jordan 594 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,480 Belfort from a chronological order. 595 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:50,520 The man went to prison for his Wall Street, being the wolf of Wall Street. 596 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:52,800 Comes back from that experience. 597 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:59,120 Everybody in the world, in the first world knows that story to some degree. 598 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:00,900 And he could have crawled in the hole. 599 00:40:00,900 --> 00:40:07,920 He comes out and now he's not touching Wall Street, but he's coaching entrepreneurs and 600 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:09,800 business owners. 601 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:14,300 And he's turning that into fortunes as well. 602 00:40:14,300 --> 00:40:15,300 He didn't make an excuse. 603 00:40:15,300 --> 00:40:16,300 He didn't give up. 604 00:40:16,300 --> 00:40:17,300 He found a way. 605 00:40:17,300 --> 00:40:18,680 You mentioned marriages. 606 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:23,880 You mentioned 18 year olds trying to get into business. 607 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:27,880 And you're going to inspire people by getting after it at a young age. 608 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:34,160 And on the flip side, if you're old, right, if you're 73 years old and you feel inspired 609 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:41,400 to start a business, do you know how many millions of anybody between the age of, I 610 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:47,480 don't know, 30 and 100 are going to be inspired by the fact that you did that? 611 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:51,280 There's so many 30 year olds who think it's too late in life. 612 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:55,220 There's plenty of 24 year olds who think it's too late in life to start. 613 00:40:55,220 --> 00:41:00,600 So when you as a 73 year old step up and say, you know what, I'm not going to make an excuse 614 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:01,600 on this. 615 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,040 I'm going to use my excuse. 616 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:13,080 I'm going to look for my advantage in relation to that temptation to see it as an excuse. 617 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,240 COVID, you mentioned that as well. 618 00:41:15,240 --> 00:41:22,080 There are lots of businesses and that doesn't mean that you shouldn't pivot at times. 619 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:28,840 I'm a co-founder of a restaurant software and we got back together. 620 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:34,920 We're ready to roll things out again and scale back up the month before COVID hit. 621 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:43,360 COVID hits and the very next week we lost $20,000 in monthly recurring revenues. 622 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:51,640 The very next week, the entire other coast shut down, $15,000 more gone, $35,000 in total 623 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,520 monthly revenues. 624 00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:54,940 That was our revenue. 625 00:41:54,940 --> 00:41:58,480 That was everything for the business. 626 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:06,560 I made a pivot to solar during that time and I'm sure Adam as well had to make his pivots 627 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:07,560 in life. 628 00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:12,080 We could have folded our arms and pouted and let everything in life fall apart. 629 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:13,840 But you make a change. 630 00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:15,320 You make an adjustment. 631 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,120 You move into new territories. 632 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:18,760 That led to JCal. 633 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,320 That led to first class business. 634 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,040 That led to a lot of very cool things coming forward. 635 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:24,040 Why? 636 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:25,040 Because I took action. 637 00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,080 I said I've got a family to provide for. 638 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:28,880 I've got things to do here. 639 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,360 And you've done the exact same thing. 640 00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,640 So you hosted that event. 641 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:37,560 I'd love to dive into it, but we are low on time. 642 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:42,360 Muneer, if people want to reach out to you, I know they can reach out through the website. 643 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:43,680 We'll drop those links in the comments. 644 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,100 We'll have those on the show notes as well. 645 00:42:46,100 --> 00:42:48,760 But can they reach out to you on LinkedIn and elsewhere? 646 00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,360 What's the best place to reach you? 647 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:57,640 Well, the best place to reach me, Instagram and Facebook. 648 00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:01,840 Well, so it's just Mr. M. Dongo everywhere. 649 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:06,480 So you just search Mr. M. Dongo everywhere. 650 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:12,920 If you can't find me wherever, just go on Google and type Mr. M. Dongo. 651 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:20,800 I will provide you with the best way to contact me or join me every week. 652 00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:25,760 I run a weekly webinar each and every week on Friday. 653 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,680 I do weekly webinars each and every week. 654 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:33,600 I talk to you topics each and every week. 655 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,520 The other week is building online businesses. 656 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:42,000 You can find that on my pages as well. 657 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:45,680 And then the other week is about building online business. 658 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:50,760 So the other one is about scaling your online businesses. 659 00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:55,560 And then the other one is about building the online business. 660 00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,800 Or download our free mobile application. 661 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:00,320 It's called BNCmobi. 662 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,720 You still get fantastic things there. 663 00:44:02,720 --> 00:44:06,840 Yeah, there are quite a lot of stuff that you can also get there. 664 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:07,840 That's awesome. 665 00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:08,840 Well, I love it. 666 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,160 I love that you understand the business should also be fun. 667 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:12,920 There's no reason not to have that in there. 668 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,400 It's been awesome to have you on the show, Munya. 669 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,800 And for those of you listening in, we're grateful to have you here. 670 00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:22,640 We look forward to seeing you, Nick, on the next episode of Vision Pros Live. 671 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:26,160 If you feel inspired, if you feel like this is going to inspire somebody who tends to 672 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:30,280 make excuses in their life, send them to this episode. 673 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:33,960 If you feel like there's somebody who would benefit as well from just having more access 674 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:37,600 to people who can help them in business, of course, that's also a great reason to bring 675 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:38,600 them in. 676 00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:40,960 And we look forward to seeing you guys on the next episode. 677 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:42,800 We have a wonderful day. 678 00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:43,800 Thank you for being here today. 679 00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:44,800 Thank you. 680 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:45,800 Thank you. 681 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:46,800 There goes. 682 00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,280 Thank you for being here today. 683 00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,760 I'm really happy that you tuned in to Vision Pros Live. 684 00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:56,600 I'm looking forward to seeing your reactions as these episodes continue to move forward. 685 00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:58,200 This is going to get more and more fun. 686 00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,240 We'll have more and more engagement as well. 687 00:45:00,240 --> 00:45:02,560 We'll invite people to participate in the show. 688 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,820 And thank you for giving us your time and attention. 689 00:45:04,820 --> 00:45:09,320 Have an excellent time building out your vision and becoming a Vision Pro yourself. 690 00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:12,560 I'll talk to you.