1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,120 pronounce his last name Alex s big in the podcast world, but 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:07,360 okay, it can be difficult. Okay, so your podcast and your podcast 3 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:09,760 will let's drop the link to for it. What's the name of it? 4 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:14,600 Well, it's on YouTube. I know it was a video. It was actually a 5 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,440 video web series called Anderson Street. So it's Anderson Street 6 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:18,000 TV. 7 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:22,760 Okay, so was the one and that's the one that was your favorite 8 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:26,320 for sure. And that's my favorite. If you have a favorite 9 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:29,680 episode, do me a favor, drop it in the comments. That way, 10 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:33,320 everybody can can go check it out. And I'd love to as well. So 11 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:37,400 that'll be fun. And yes, they're listen, they're controversial 12 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:40,080 topics. That was the whole point. Allah Jeffersonian dinner. 13 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:45,320 That was the format. Wait, we like ready. Yeah, be ready. 14 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,120 Everybody ready for that. All right. Welcome in to vision 15 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:51,800 pros live with Jackson Calame. I'm your show host, we'll be 16 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:55,240 doing interviews for visionary entrepreneurs and guest leaders 17 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:57,520 who are building fantastic visions out there. 18 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:08,880 Hey, what's up vision pros and welcome into another episode of 19 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:12,520 vision pros live. I'm your host, Jackson Calame, founder and CEO 20 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:16,760 of first class business. Excited to have Victoria Cumberbatch, 21 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:20,200 Vicki, once you get to know her, of course, she's gonna be 22 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:22,640 awesome. We're gonna be talking about what it is to be a 23 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:27,040 facilitator, especially in terms of business and then how that 24 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:30,920 works. Why somebody should want to work with a strategist and do 25 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:35,120 I really need a coach? You know, and no, if you want your life to 26 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:37,760 suck, you don't. I'll be honest about that right now. But we'll 27 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:41,080 be covering that a little bit further later. I see Vicki laughing 28 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:44,040 in the background right now about that. So, whoo, we're gonna 29 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,080 have some fun talking about that. Alright, so without further 30 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,080 ado, let's talk about the sponsors a little bit. So I 31 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:51,640 can't make her live. And why do I do this? Some people hate the 32 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,400 whole idea of sponsors. I get it. I mean, like if you're just 33 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,800 paid to promote somebody, that's one thing. But my sponsors are 34 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:02,640 here because I love them. Like that's what I enjoy what they've 35 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:06,800 given to my life. And in some respects, sometimes my sponsors 36 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:11,040 are people who I actually, you know, I do get paid to work with 37 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:14,400 them. And I do get paid to promote their businesses. But I 38 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,880 wouldn't do that for somebody that I didn't care about and 39 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:20,240 something that I didn't enjoy and wasn't benefiting from 40 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,960 myself. So keep that in mind. There's also other sponsors that 41 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:27,920 I've brought on that do not pay me. I just love the value that 42 00:02:27,920 --> 00:02:31,680 they provide. And it's a value for both my guests to know those 43 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,600 entities and keep them in their little black book, as well as 44 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:36,840 for every single person who's listening. So I can make her 45 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:40,880 live.com is hosted by Tom Mattson and Cheryl Plouffe. And 46 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,080 Danelle, I'm sorry, I forgot about Danelle. And I shouldn't 47 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:45,120 because she's amazing. And she's behind the scenes. She's a 48 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:48,400 Wizard of Oz for what they do, but actually like does great 49 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,400 things. Not the Wizard of Oz who's fake. She's the one that 50 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:53,840 runs the event and make sure that everybody has a great time 51 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:57,000 while they're there. She is phenomenal at running events. So 52 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:00,240 if you're into event management, and you need that if you are 53 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,080 looking to launch a podcast and make seven figures while doing 54 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,960 so, if you need mentorship for how to raise money for doing so, 55 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,360 or if you if you've ever said the word, I don't know if I have 56 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,480 the money for that, then you're in a position where you need to 57 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:14,480 raise money, by the way, Tom Mattson is one of the best 58 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,560 teachers I've ever learned from about how to raise money and how 59 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:21,160 to position yourself into a conversation to where people 60 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,920 actually want to promote the cause that you're doing. So I 61 00:03:23,920 --> 00:03:27,160 can't speak highly enough about that or talk about the importance 62 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,440 of that enough because most of the people that listen to this 63 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:33,280 show are probably people who aspire to fulfill their vision. 64 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,800 And if you're not investing in it, guess what? You have a dream, 65 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:40,400 not a vision. Vision is something you actually sacrifice 66 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:42,960 and work towards building is something you invest in. So 67 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:46,200 without further ado, let's go to cap show. Cap show is how we 68 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:51,240 generate the notes for our shows. It's the number one AI 69 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:56,560 tool for creating show notes and creating content as ranked by 70 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,160 digitalmarketer.com digitalmarketer.com. There's a 71 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,160 reason they own that.com. 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As worst case, you try the, you try the 90 00:04:58,120 --> 00:04:59,720 trial thing out and you're like, well, I'm just not ready to 91 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,280 implement this or I don't want to use this yet. Cancel, you're 92 00:05:02,280 --> 00:05:05,160 good. They have a phenomenal community as well. That's my 93 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,280 favorite thing about cap show is the leaders are really dedicated 94 00:05:08,280 --> 00:05:10,720 to helping every single person win. They have these community 95 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,880 events. They do these special guests promotions as well. They 96 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,240 show you what you should be doing in the podcast world to 97 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:20,080 win. Again, I can't speak highly enough of those two entities. 98 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,320 That's why we do it. The water project as well. The water 99 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,680 project is near and dear to my heart. I would feel very 100 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:28,600 responsible life. If I went about my day getting done what I 101 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:33,040 want to do, you know, with my first world problems and forgot 102 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:34,960 about the millions of people in the world who don't even have 103 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,600 access to clean drinking water. The water projects are great 104 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,600 opportunity to give back. They show you exactly where your 105 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,400 money is going towards. They show you the progress of the 106 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:45,600 community project. You get to see, for instance, the bore 107 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,880 hole well that people build for themselves with the engineering 108 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,160 support they receive. You get to see the sand dams that they 109 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:55,120 create and the people doing the work to make that happen. And 110 00:05:55,280 --> 00:05:57,640 next thing you know, you've got a community of 500 people who 111 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,400 did not have clean drinking water with access to clean 112 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,320 drinking water that keeps their kids in schools, keeps the 113 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,800 community from fighting with each other. You can imagine the 114 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:07,400 turmoil. How would you feel if you did not have access to water 115 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:10,800 today? You know, what type of position would that put you in 116 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,440 society? I probably wouldn't be the nicest, friendliest person 117 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,480 in the world if I had to deal with that. So if you can give a 118 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:19,480 dollar, $10, $10, $10,000, whatever you can to the water 119 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,480 project, please do. If you have a better project to support with 120 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,760 your own opinion, then by all means share the share comment 121 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:29,240 with a link to what you like to support. And while you're at it, 122 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,280 give back to that entity. Life's about giving. That's how we 123 00:06:32,280 --> 00:06:35,160 receive the most amount of happiness in my humble opinion. 124 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,840 So without further ado, I'm going to introduce Victoria 125 00:06:37,840 --> 00:06:41,240 Cumberbatch. She has an amazing background. I'm going to start 126 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:45,960 a little bit out of order here. 65 countries she's lived in and 127 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:49,400 been immersed or in 65 countries. Do you realize the 128 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,840 amount of wisdom that comes from somebody who's had access to 129 00:06:52,840 --> 00:06:56,440 that many different culture types? Just mind blowing to me. 130 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:01,400 So Vic's experience up to now is often viewed as a cat with nine 131 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:04,720 lives. I'm going to read this too. There's just so much depth 132 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,320 to somebody who's lived in 65 countries. She's formally 133 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:11,120 educated in government and politics, managing communities, 134 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:14,720 spanning the fledgling Central American Hostel to a global 135 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:18,520 medical student group, practicing improv and doing the 136 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:22,080 van life during the pandemic as well. Coaching individuals 137 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,960 through transformation, facilitating holotropic breath 138 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:28,320 work sessions and designing and facilitating workshops as well. 139 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,400 She's a strong, compassionate, exuberant leader. I've seen that 140 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,760 myself who brings a decade of flavorful know-how and bringing 141 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,680 engaging, invigorating, and resonant experiences to life. 142 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,920 And she firmly believes in the transformative power of 143 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,360 connection, creativity and community with a mission to 144 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,840 create spaces where people can connect, grow, collaborate and 145 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:50,320 confidently take action toward their dreams. So without 146 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,560 further ado, Victoria, thank you so much for being on Vision 147 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:54,080 Press Live. 148 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:58,000 What a time to be alive. Thank you for that intro. It was read 149 00:07:58,000 --> 00:07:58,480 beautifully. 150 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:02,600 Ooh, thank you. I love that. What a time to be alive indeed. 151 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:06,160 Absolutely. So those of you who are listening right now, let's 152 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:10,560 honor that time. Who should listen? Why should they listen 153 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:12,800 to you, Victoria? And what are they going to get out today's 154 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:13,160 show? 155 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:20,200 Who should listen are people that are interested in learning 156 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:24,440 something every day, people that are learners and always humble, 157 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:28,280 right? I never know it all. I'm always willing to glean some 158 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:32,920 grain of rice information to an immense ocean of information. Who 159 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:36,760 knows everything in between. Why they should listen. I'm full of 160 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:41,000 personality. I'm kidding. I'm not. But they should listen 161 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:44,160 because I have a lot of really cool experiences to share. I've 162 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:47,040 been through a lot of things. I've studied a lot of things and 163 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:50,040 I enjoy engaging in conversation. I mean, that is the 164 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:54,520 true way to learn, in my opinion. If schools were just like discussion 165 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:58,760 series events, I think that and plus mind mapping of some kind, 166 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:02,440 that would be the school of choice. And what are you going to 167 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:06,920 get out of today's show? Mystery and surprise. Let us see what we 168 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:07,760 shall create. 169 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:12,080 Absolutely. Right. And of course, those who are listening, you 170 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,080 know, our series of questions guides that we're gonna be 171 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:17,720 diving deep into vision, how that unfolds and how she impacts 172 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:19,600 that. And as I mentioned, we're gonna be talking about this 173 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,600 facilitated role, strategist and coach thing in just a minute as 174 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,840 well. But without further ado, what's your vision for those 175 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:27,200 that you serve in 30 seconds? 176 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:32,600 Okay, well, my vision for the world is to curate spaces that 177 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,600 create connection through community collaboration and 178 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:39,720 creativity. So for those that I serve, it would be those things 179 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:42,720 in order to get toward breakthroughs and empowering 180 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:45,480 people to recognize their own crown. You always have it on. 181 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,320 You're completely whole and fully capable and resourceful. 182 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:49,640 Let us help each other get there. 183 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:55,000 I love that. Okay. Very good. No, you nailed it. And so in terms 184 00:09:55,000 --> 00:10:01,000 of how you can serve people with your greatest capacity, what is 185 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,320 that? What does that ideal audience look like? What is 186 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:07,600 somebody facing or community or organization facing where they'd 187 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:12,840 be like, Oh, my gosh, we need Vicki to come in. Yeah, it would 188 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:16,640 be so the two that come to mind is those that I coach through 189 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:22,160 transformation and those that I work with in facilitation. With 190 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:26,440 coaching, it would really primarily be women wanting to 191 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:31,360 soften, really, you know, to put it super simply, women that have 192 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:34,080 felt they energetically approach life from a masculine 193 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:38,320 perspective, striving drive ambition, you know, lean in 194 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,760 Sheryl Sandberg, I must I have to, I have to do it all. I'm a 195 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:47,040 CEO and a CEO in the house. Those women that are being 196 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:55,760 called toward harmonizing, balancing their lives by tapping 197 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:59,120 a bit more into the feminine aspect, which is softening 198 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:02,640 instead of striving, open timeline versus deadline. 199 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:07,480 Forecasting instead of stringent goals, collaboration over 200 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:11,400 competition, these things, really, it's more the youth 201 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:14,400 more the yin and yang, you know, what you have in the dark, you 202 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:17,520 must have in the light, as opposed to like, man and woman. 203 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:22,920 Okay, so it would be those women seeking some harmony. And how 204 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:27,520 do I get back to me and recognize the resources that I 205 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:34,240 already have? How can I shelve all of the masks and stories that 206 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:37,840 perpetuate imposter syndrome uncertainty? I don't want to 207 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:40,800 vocalize what I think or believe because I don't really know the 208 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:44,360 women that say I'm sorry before they start a sentence. Right? 209 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:48,440 Like, that's not what we want to perpetuate going forward in, in 210 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:52,520 our world. So we get to work together. So let me speculate a 211 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:56,400 little bit on that. And my speculation, feel free to destroy 212 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:58,480 it, challenge it, do whatever you want with it. Okay, let's go. 213 00:11:58,680 --> 00:12:03,720 What's like burning in my heart is without losing their power. 214 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:07,960 Correct? Oh, 1000%. That's the okay, okay. Because I can see 215 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:11,160 that I was like, you know, I see these people, men and women, 216 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:18,600 right, who are so determined to showcase their power. It's like 217 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:22,680 a lion who's roaring constantly. And it's like, why you're 218 00:12:22,680 --> 00:12:25,880 already powerful. You're not showing you're, you're showing 219 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:27,760 your fear by doing that. 220 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:32,880 God, yes. Yes, you're absolutely right. And that is why it is a 221 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:36,160 harmonious relationship as opposed to, I'm really 222 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:39,680 masculine. And now I need to be really feminine. And whoever you 223 00:12:39,680 --> 00:12:41,600 are, however you approach the game, right, man, woman, 224 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:47,120 otherwise. So it's about how can I weave both in and find where 225 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:53,280 I sit my unique seat. So what comes to mind is, I also mess 226 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,040 around with tower. Can I curse or what? 227 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,240 You can lightly. Okay. Yeah. 228 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:02,040 I know you can. I mean, you can. I'm not one to give 229 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:03,320 permissions like this your show. 230 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:06,920 Okay, I just want to make sure. Um, so sweet. Tarot and Oracle 231 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,880 cards. And there's a tarot card called strength. It's a major 232 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,600 arcana card. And on the card is the visual. It's always this 233 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:17,560 visual based off right away, is a woman calm, cool collected with 234 00:13:17,560 --> 00:13:23,920 her hand on top of a tamed lion. And that's, that would be the 235 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:28,440 visual of what breakthroughs and transformation and empowerment I 236 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,920 want to see women have. I have the strength of this lion, but I 237 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:36,760 got it. It's on me. I choose when, when they roar when he's 238 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:42,200 tame. So that's that. And thank you for bringing that visual up 239 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,080 because I hadn't actually thought of that before. And then 240 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:51,080 I inspired it with facilitation. You know, a facilitator is 241 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:54,640 someone that I mean, the main role of facilitator is someone 242 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:58,800 that brings a group together and helps them plan, guide, be 243 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:04,000 guided toward or manage an event to get toward their goals. So 244 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:08,600 they are otherwise unable to have done so, or they want a 245 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:14,080 third party to assist them in pushing forward. So you can have 246 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:19,800 facilitators for design sprints, you know, hackathons, any sort 247 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,080 of things like that for a company, you could have a 248 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:25,440 facilitator managing different workshops at a company offsite 249 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:29,520 or retreat. My flavor, of course, is along this like, how 250 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:34,760 can we transform without like, it being too woo woo in the 251 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:36,640 professional space, you know what I'm saying, because I'm 252 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:41,800 woo woo. Mine are really about authentic leadership. And that 253 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:47,280 what comes up in there is how to nix blurry language. Let's do 254 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,000 this, we should do this. Who's doing what, let's be clear in 255 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:54,400 our communication and how to do that. Authentic leadership is 256 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:56,480 also how to have hard conversations, how to take 257 00:14:56,480 --> 00:15:00,080 accountability, how to give real feedback, which I believe I 258 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,560 mean, we can have a whole conversation about my thoughts 259 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,360 on accountability not being taken in this place. But 260 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:11,440 bringing that back to the floor. Cultural awareness, stemming 261 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:14,920 know, it's annoying is not what doing it all. 262 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:22,080 No, well, but when your team or when those around you don't feel 263 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:25,280 like they can hold you accountable. And trying to help 264 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:28,520 them realize, you know, like, that you want it that you need 265 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:31,920 it. And that that is one of the greatest challenges I think 266 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:36,200 most entrepreneurs face is learning how to facilitate the 267 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:40,120 ability to get constructive real feedback from those who work 268 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:40,800 with you directly. 269 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:54,560 Well, yes. And, well, yeah, and it's, it's a societal, systemic 270 00:15:54,600 --> 00:16:03,800 generational, whoa, of miscommunication, and miss 271 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:10,760 labeled responsibility for saying what it is you need. 272 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:15,480 And so when you say, Whoa, when you use that word, I think 273 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:20,040 scripture biblical context, okay, well, well, meaning, holy 274 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:24,440 crap, despair, right? That what you mean by that? Yeah, I caught 275 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:27,400 that I want to make sure I find it despicable and deeply 276 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:31,880 saddening. Yeah, because it doesn't need to be. No, it 277 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:35,720 doesn't need to be the case. No, it doesn't. Yeah, well said. I 278 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,120 love that. We'll leave that up for for another book to be 279 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:42,400 unpacked. Okay. And let's dive into real quick. Let's switch 280 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:46,040 gears a little bit. What's your personal vision at this point in 281 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:48,840 your life? Vicki? What do you see for yourself? Five, 10, 15 282 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:52,280 years down the road? Oh, because she doesn't look that far. I'll 283 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:56,520 tell you that. Um, the vision that I have for my life, what do 284 00:16:56,520 --> 00:17:01,320 you mean by that? Actually, it's I really don't like to be 285 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:07,320 in the timeline. I don't like to put myself in the timeline 286 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:12,280 holes. I really don't. I don't because it's that. Yeah, it adds 287 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:15,560 really undue stress. I do forecast and I do short sprints, 288 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:19,320 season, season, year max. But if we're being I will I can play 289 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:21,960 I can ball you know what I'm saying I can ball. I want to 290 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:27,320 live in authentic connection, harmony and joy. And with that 291 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:31,240 I am financially secure. I'm in a loving and committed and 292 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:36,040 conscious partnership. I am a parent. I am in community. And 293 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:39,160 by in community, I mean, I can actually go to my friend's 294 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:44,440 house at 7pm in tears and say I don't know but I need you right 295 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,720 now. That's what I mean. Not this like, yeah, I have 296 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,840 community but it's fake as hell. I'm not I'm from Jersey. I 297 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:51,480 don't have the time. 298 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:56,840 I'm gonna start saying that for myself even though not from 299 00:17:56,840 --> 00:18:03,080 doing I love it. Right. Right. That's awesome. Okay. No, 300 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,800 that's just beautiful. And I understand that box in the 301 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:09,640 timeline of I think I've had one person, you know, give a 302 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:15,240 similar style answer. And I love it of, you know, I want to 303 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,640 keep enjoying the journey, right? An extension of the 304 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:21,480 here and now, you know, basically and making sure that we 305 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:24,920 live for the moment, not like you said, put ourselves in this 306 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,320 position where we're trying to accomplish things that are 307 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:30,520 there's so many variables that we can't control. And if we 308 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:33,560 become addicted to those outcomes, we can end up in a 309 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:37,240 miserable position. True or false? Jackson. Yes, this 310 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:42,360 changed during the pandemic when absolutely everything went, 311 00:18:42,360 --> 00:18:45,880 you know, heads up wild round the block, who knows what's 312 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:51,480 happening. And I, I'm a Capricorn, I come from a set of 313 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:53,880 married parents that are together that, you know, worked 314 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,440 in civil service. My mom was a teacher for friggin 40 years. 315 00:18:56,440 --> 00:19:00,680 My dad was a cop first black every rank in Hoboken. So like 316 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:05,880 career people, right? legacy people, and I give back. And 317 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:09,160 that's what I knew to be true. So and I'm a Capricorn. So I 318 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:17,160 tend toward action. If I'm not doing something's wrong. I who 319 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:22,200 I want to coach is me. So I have approached life in this 320 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:27,480 masculine drive time, I don't have it. Time is linear. I must 321 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:31,240 complete this in order to be someone I have to if I don't 322 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:36,280 reach this ideal that I set for myself, I have failed mindset. 323 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:39,640 And it's because of the pandemic where I had to slow 324 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,200 down and be like nothing that I thought was good. Everything 325 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:46,840 has been delayed, postponed, shelved, nixed. Right, like 326 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,800 thought I wanted to do van life for three years. I did it for 327 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,440 a year. But within 20 minutes, I was like, Oh, I don't think 328 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:57,400 this is gonna work. And I persevered because I thought I 329 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:02,120 should. Like, that's what I don't want anymore. And so that 330 00:20:02,120 --> 00:20:06,680 is what has gotten me to answering questions about time 331 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,720 in that way. Because I don't know, I have a lot of things I 332 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:13,000 want to accomplish. And when they arrive will be when they 333 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:18,120 arrive. That's right. I like that. I, I always say I 334 00:20:18,120 --> 00:20:20,120 changed, I used to like the quote, begin with the end in 335 00:20:20,120 --> 00:20:24,760 mind. Like the quote, begin with the vision in mind, like 336 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:28,120 what I can actually see, you know, and striving towards 337 00:20:28,120 --> 00:20:33,720 that a little safer, a little more practical as well. And 338 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:37,880 personal, super personal and intimate with you. Yeah, 339 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,520 exactly. Every time I think about that, I extract new 340 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:44,760 little realities about how that that just resonates in my 341 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:49,080 heart. So let's talk. Let's go. Let's go dark for a minute. Oh 342 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:53,880 yeah. Is your worst business experience ever? What's that 343 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,360 worst business experience ever for those listening? And who 344 00:20:56,360 --> 00:21:07,160 didn't see on the screen? Oh, damn. Oh, no. My worst. Whoops, 345 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:13,800 sorry. My worst business experience as an entrepreneur 346 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:19,640 only. Sure. Now you can take us wherever you want. I mean, as 347 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:25,880 an entrepreneur, it was like, oh my god, not, not really 348 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:30,360 honing in on what it is I wanted to do in the world. And 349 00:21:30,360 --> 00:21:36,280 so how to encapsulate that in a sentence. And it was on not a 350 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,960 podcast, but you know, kind of a conversation back and forth 351 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,200 where I was given questions that I should have definitely 352 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,840 known these answers to of like, what are you about? What's 353 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:48,760 your vision? Like these things and I stumble still skinned 354 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:55,960 through it and I felt, oh, it was all me. And I learned that I 355 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:59,480 had to sit down with myself and get and get some clarity. And I 356 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:03,400 was completely embarrassed, ashamed. I just kept 357 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:08,840 apologizing. I was totally in that. I suck. Wow. I suck at 358 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,800 this. I shouldn't do this anymore. I don't even know who 359 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:16,360 I'm here. You know, that hole. So not my favorite. It was like 360 00:22:16,360 --> 00:22:20,920 a not an interview, but with a potential client at like the 361 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,720 start of when I was like, I'm gonna work for myself. LOL. 362 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,840 Don't know what I'm doing, but here we are. They said dive in. 363 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,720 I'm gonna dive and I dived and it was laughable. You hit the 364 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:34,200 concrete. Yeah, I hit the concrete with my face. So yeah, 365 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:38,520 definitely learned from that. What happened? How did you not 366 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:42,600 give up? You know, and what did you I mean, what did you feel 367 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:47,000 after the fact and how long did it take you to bounce back? I 368 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:51,480 thought surely people are gonna like find out because this was 369 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:57,880 when I was consulting as a community consultant and also a 370 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:02,760 mentor for like newbie community managers. So like I have this 371 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,800 experience in this one lane within community really. And I 372 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:09,880 can speak to community at large, but my experience is here. And 373 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:19,560 I acted like my experience was here. So I felt like a fraud. I 374 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:25,240 felt ashamed and embarrassed. I thought everyone's gonna find 375 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,280 out about everyone's gonna find out about me that she's a 376 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,640 fraud and Vicky loves to talk and she's on everything, but 377 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,560 she don't know nothing. I thought that was gonna be like 378 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:42,280 the prevailing commentary. I actually after I don't know, 379 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,880 maybe two weeks, I ended up hitting that person back up via 380 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:52,200 email. And I use beep so I can voice note in my emails because 381 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:56,360 anytime I can use my voice, I prefer. And I basically told 382 00:23:56,360 --> 00:24:00,360 told them that I said I fucked up. And here's why. And 383 00:24:00,360 --> 00:24:03,320 here's what I learned. And I'm not trying to get another job. I 384 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:09,960 just wanted to actually thank you for giving me that hard 385 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,240 lesson that I don't know. I don't know what other like 386 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,960 larger stage or something I would have been on stumbling 387 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,880 looking a fool. And I'm glad it was like between you and me. So 388 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,480 it ended up being all right, you know, but in those like two 389 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:27,480 week period, I was melancholic. I was blue. 390 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:32,280 Wow. That's and you're not alone. You know, I think you 391 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,080 know that at this point, but I'm gonna voice it. And I think 392 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:39,640 but still tell me we're going to hear this. Absolutely. No, I've 393 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:46,120 absolutely been there. You know, and I and not once. Many times 394 00:24:46,120 --> 00:24:50,440 in life, we find ourselves in that scenario. And sometimes it 395 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,480 comes from a position of ignorance. You know, where we're 396 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:57,480 like, Oh, dang, I know a lot less than I thought. You know, 397 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,840 but sometimes it comes from a little bit of an apathy, where 398 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:05,240 we're like, I can figure this out, you know, or I'll be able 399 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,680 to make up for this. Yeah, and sometimes, you know, sometimes 400 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:12,440 we can't. But that that's human. And sometimes that leads to our 401 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:19,000 best opportunities. I took a job once. It was 21. It was a temp 402 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,040 job. And I could tell the one thing they wanted to make me 403 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,440 sure of is that I knew how to do PowerPoint. You know, oh, 404 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:29,240 yeah, I got that. Absolutely. And so I go home, and I go, 405 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:32,760 honey, quick, what's PowerPoint? Like I didn't even know. I had 406 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:36,200 never used it before. So yeah, I had no idea how to go to the 407 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,800 slideshow. And so I spent my night learning how to do it and 408 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,760 build it. And I came back with that thing done. And they were 409 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:44,920 like, you got the job. This is awesome. Why don't you do with 410 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:49,160 all of them? And I was like, Oh, I had the opposite effect. It 411 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,520 worked. You know, it made the difference at the time. But, you 412 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,960 know, the reason why I'm bringing up the positive on 413 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,720 that is, I don't think you're an evil person for what you 414 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:03,560 strived to do, trying to get that position and help you had a 415 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:07,480 good intent, you wanted to help. Right. And at the same time, 416 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:11,640 you owned the reality of, of you know, what felt was probably 417 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:16,280 kind of like a misconception or you you you miss represented 418 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:21,160 what it was you're able to do. And there's a there's a fine 419 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,680 line. And I think there's a lot of gray in life in terms of 420 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:28,040 what's absolute truth and what's not because that company would 421 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:33,320 not have had the PowerPoints of my quality. Had I not gone and 422 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,280 learned how to use that stupid tool tool didn't matter. The 423 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,800 person did in that case, right? Sometimes it does. And we do 424 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:44,040 have to know when Oh, we're putting people at risk. And I 425 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,680 can't say, Hey, I can figure that surgery out. You know, 426 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,240 like there's there's certain right. Because these do get 427 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:55,240 degrees. Yeah, yes. Yes, they do. So what's your best 428 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:59,080 experience in business? 429 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,320 I like how pensive you are. I appreciate it because the 430 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:09,000 abrupt questions I'm like, Oh, God. All right. Right. In the 431 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:13,080 spot with it. There's a lot of there's a lot of great things 432 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,480 that have happened in life, I'm sure. So picking ones there 433 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:20,760 are okay, the one I'm going to pick is actually so I created 434 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,840 and ran co ran a retreat in Dominican Republic in April, 435 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,160 which feels like a lifetime ago. And it was the first time I 436 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:31,000 did any of the above like retreat and went to DR and like 437 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:37,480 all these things. And it was excellent. Also for the 438 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,880 learning. I guess you can tell I'm a total learner. I'm like, 439 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,760 let's always just see what grain I could grab out of here. 440 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:51,960 But I felt like there was this zeitgeist about retreats, like 441 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:55,960 people in the like spiritual wellness world. 442 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,000 The world perspective. Yes. Thank you. What people believe 443 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,920 about it. Got it. Yes. And that retreats is the thing. And 444 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,680 like, so I thought, let me get into the thing and be trendy 445 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,560 with it for like a moment and see. Yeah. And it was my big 446 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,800 juicy goal from this transformational leadership 447 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,040 program I was doing. So I had to do it. I had people were 448 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:21,080 holding me accountable seriously. And is another example 449 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,760 of like day one, I thought, ooh, I don't think I want to 450 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:29,000 really do this going forward, but let's see what happens. And 451 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:35,480 I did this with my best friend, Katrina. And our relationship 452 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:39,080 strengthened. We realized how much work goes into this and 453 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,720 that it takes more than two people in an ideal world to 454 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,640 manage everything, including the linguistic challenges, okay, 455 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,920 the timing challenges, the things breaking when you're in 456 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,320 the third world challenges, right, like I could go down the 457 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:57,800 list, which like should have known but was helpful. Well, 458 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:03,320 but and yeah, yeah, I mean, the workshops that I presented, 459 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:07,480 which were the first time that I did them were slam dunks and 460 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:12,440 also severely intense, like very intense for people. So I 461 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,880 learned, you know, it's got to be a little bit of a drop, 462 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,040 drop, drop, dive versus. 463 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:23,640 So we're talking like, I'm a basketball guy, Blake Griffin, 464 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,040 slam dunking on Paul Gasol three times in a row, you know, 465 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:32,120 and yeah, I was hurt. And his ego's crushed instead of 466 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,480 feeling I'm not the point of a retreat, right, like not calm 467 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,480 and cool. And like we're learning something and back to 468 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:44,120 calm and cool. Yeah. So it was awesome. The setup was awesome. 469 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,160 The people were awesome. I did it. Yay. I did something new 470 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:52,120 and challenging. And more importantly, I'd love to be 471 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,440 hired at Retreats, but I don't want to run that shit. Okay. 472 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:58,520 I'd love to come in and leave. 473 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:03,640 Yes. Yes. Okay, good. That's awesome. Well, way to way to 474 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,920 tackle that. That is again, it's a very difficult beast to 475 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:10,200 tackle. It's up there with writing and publishing a book. 476 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,120 And I was one of those things that's, oh, I can just do this, 477 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,400 right? The gist factor comes into play. You're like, oh my 478 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:23,000 gosh, this is a title of opportunity, risk, problem, 479 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:28,280 risk outs, problem solving, impossible. Marketing. Let's 480 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:32,040 just say for what it is also marketing. Right. Just one word. 481 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:36,280 It's just one word, right? I can't stand that one. Yeah, 482 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,000 that's my, that's my MO. So when I hear marketing, galler 483 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:43,560 marketing guy, I cringe and I'm like, it's not a person. It's a 484 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:48,520 department. Please anybody who's claiming that red flag like 485 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:53,880 run and hide. No such thing. Anyway, I'll back off. Well, 486 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:57,400 now we know how you really feel. Yeah, for sure. So we're 487 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,280 going to talk about powerful lessons in just a minute. I'll 488 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,960 give you some time on that one. What powerful lesson other 489 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,600 visionaries can learn from your experience. I do want you to 490 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,560 think to that. I want to, there's a public incident that 491 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:13,640 occurred over this weekend and you could claim that anytime the 492 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:17,320 jets play football, a public incident has occurred. You know, 493 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:22,520 I'm sorry, you know, but I'm Zach Wilson. Want to be famous. 494 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:26,920 So that's, you know, it's hard. But Colin Kaepernick who's 495 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,960 disappeared off the map to an extent, off the map. There's a 496 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:34,280 lot of controversy there, right? Well, he wrote a letter to the 497 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:38,840 team. That is a reflection to me of what you talked about in 498 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,480 terms of worst business experience and recovering, 499 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,920 right? Making it right, bringing that forward. I'm not saying 500 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,080 Colin Kaepernick has anything to make right. I don't judge 501 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:50,680 people. What I am saying is he's leveraging the opportunity 502 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:56,040 in one of the most powerful sales letters I've ever seen. It 503 00:31:56,040 --> 00:32:00,120 is so good. I'm going to share it live so people can see this. 504 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,960 And if you just go to, if you Google Colin Kaepernick, this 505 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:07,720 letter is going to pop up for you. And I'm really glad the 506 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:11,720 owner of the team convinced him to share this. This is just the 507 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:15,240 back copy of the letter. I don't have the front copy. Oh no, 508 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,520 this is spelled so nevermind. Twitter just has a funky display. 509 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:23,640 And if you were to utilize this to get yourself back on track 510 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:27,560 or to get yourself into a winning position as a framework, 511 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:33,000 it could help you articulate how to spring into the limelight of 512 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,560 championship level behaviors and championship level 513 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,120 opportunities. It doesn't matter where you're at as an 514 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:43,400 individual. I love the way he formatted this letter and he 515 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:47,080 facilitates respecting Zach. He facilitates helping them 516 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:51,000 understand the great caliber of company that they are, brand 517 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,760 name that they are. He talks about how much he knows about 518 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:59,160 the existing situation. And he did his research to make this 519 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,880 happen. And it's probably not the first time he's done. He 520 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,200 probably is a strategist who's helped him with and that's okay. 521 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:09,240 But everything about this is a, it's a very live public reality 522 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:13,880 that's happening right now that validates the wonderful story 523 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,800 that you shared with us. And I hope people take advantage of 524 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:19,720 it. Amazing. Thank you. I hadn't heard of it or read it. So 525 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:23,880 I got it up for myself. Oh, it's cool. It's sports junkie 526 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,840 right here, you know, going right into it. I couldn't tell. 527 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:32,760 Hmm. Okay. Right. Exactly. So let's go into your powerful 528 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:36,760 lesson. What powerful lesson would you like to share with 529 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:40,360 those visionaries who are listening that may change their 530 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:46,200 life, may change their moment, lift them up? For sure. So 531 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:50,200 something that I coached because I coached myself through it is 532 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:57,240 basically defining what success means for you. And how I went 533 00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:01,240 about doing that is literally creating a barometer of success 534 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:09,720 like a linear scale from one to ten. And within, I really love 535 00:34:09,720 --> 00:34:14,440 diagrams as I mentioned earlier, mind mapping. So I just had a 536 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:19,720 really overwhelmed manic set of months after I had completed 537 00:34:19,720 --> 00:34:23,400 and graduated that transformational program. Really 538 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:28,440 kind of like a reckoning with myself. Like what am I, what 539 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:32,120 do I even like? What, how do I determine and measure my own 540 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,800 progress and what am I progressing toward? If I took 541 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:40,760 out the puzzle piece of society says. Because up to now 542 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,240 society has said a lot of things and I haven't done like 543 00:34:43,240 --> 00:34:46,360 many of them as much as I'd love to be a rule abider in that 544 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:52,760 way. It turns out I'm not. And I created a mind map really of 545 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:59,080 really a Venn diagram activities. What I like to do 546 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:06,360 being how I like how I prefer to feel on a day to day basis. 547 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,880 And then my values. And then I just wrote it. I wrote 548 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,880 everything in there. Absolutely anything. And I stood back and 549 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:19,640 then I thought, huh, well, if I can feel a sense of contentment 550 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:25,800 in my day, where might that sit on my view of success for me? 551 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,840 That actually is like more of a seven. It's pretty high for me 552 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:32,440 because very rarely am I at contentment and very and never 553 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:36,120 am I at happiness. I'm not a pursuit of happiness person. I 554 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,800 find happiness and oh, are you excited to be super fleeting? 555 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,360 Which is why I tend toward exuberance because it's like a 556 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:47,400 consistent simmering upbeat level. So I got really clear on 557 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:51,960 the words that define me. I got clear on what success looks 558 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:56,200 like aside from just like how much money I make says, you 559 00:35:56,200 --> 00:36:01,240 know, the Western world. Bopping from job to job says society 560 00:36:01,240 --> 00:36:04,440 is this thing, but I decided to reframe my own story. You're 561 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:09,160 like, wow, I'm a cat with nine lives, right? Like I wrote 562 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:13,880 that with really great mentors of mine and like how can I 563 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:19,400 formulate who I am, what I do and how I see whatever is 564 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:23,080 written there as successful, regardless of what other people 565 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,600 think. And I believe because I get a lot of questions. How do 566 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:30,120 you stay motivated? How do you do so much? And I think I 567 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:34,520 honestly believe that a lack of motivation comes from measuring 568 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:38,280 yourself in the gap. If you've read the gap in the game, you'd 569 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:42,120 know this. When you measure yourself between where you are 570 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,960 now and where you hope to be, you'll always be losing and 571 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:51,320 thus you will consistently feel demotivated and deterred to do 572 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,920 more. So you may sit in a hole and become a cash potato. If 573 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,040 you measure yourself in your gain, look at how far I've 574 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:02,840 come. Everything gets celebrated. We are, we do not 575 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,800 live in a celebratory culture of the small wins equal big 576 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:11,560 wins of 1% of progress is progress though. We don't live 577 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:16,680 there. If we did, what might anything look like? What might 578 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:20,120 our industries look like? What might our systems look like? 579 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,680 What might our family structures look like, right? So 580 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:27,800 I do honestly believe that it comes from you sitting down 581 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,360 with yourself and defining what success means for just you. 582 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:34,920 Being, having, doing. Those are the things that get into it. I 583 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:39,480 love that. I love a lot of what you unpacked in it. Just, you 584 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,280 know, we're sharing these external resources, but I hope 585 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:46,040 what people are capturing is how golden the book is that's 586 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:50,840 within you. Bingo. It's there. Like within you, like 587 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:54,440 specifically Victoria, like you have so much to provide to this 588 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,560 world. And you're so clear and articulate about these 589 00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,600 different dynamics that you've come to believe yet you're 590 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,680 humble enough to recognize that you have this constant 591 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:07,160 opportunity to keep learning. And that's usually, that's what 592 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,960 I see the most intelligent people in the world doing. You 593 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:15,400 know, as they're continuing to stay feasting, they continue to 594 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:21,000 feast on what they can learn. Yeah, thank you. I see it. And 595 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,360 those who are listening to, as you know, dive deep within 596 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,360 yourself to figure that out. Maybe you don't have to dive 597 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,560 deep, but grab a piece of paper maybe and start writing down 598 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:33,720 like what is success to you? You know, and I love that you use 599 00:38:33,720 --> 00:38:36,440 the gap again. I haven't read the book, but I've heard it 600 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,480 referenced several times and I grasp the concept quite fast as 601 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:43,080 you talk about it. Yep. I definitely live by that. And 602 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:47,240 it's what drives peace for me. Yeah, I'm also grateful that 603 00:38:47,240 --> 00:38:49,880 you acknowledge that, you know, not many people would admit 604 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:53,000 that what you said, and then we'll misinterpret what you said 605 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,680 about happiness. You know, but you brought up a very valid 606 00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:01,560 truth. I think most of us relate to it. But I know a lot of 607 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:05,800 people who are scared to admit it. About the fleeting aspect. 608 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,600 Fleeting aspect. Yeah, we're not guaranteed happiness in this 609 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:12,600 life. No, there's no guarantee of it. I've lived a life. 610 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:16,920 Mostly, I don't want to say deprived of it, but without the 611 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,800 ability and understanding of how to access it and without the 612 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,480 blessing of it. You know, like it's so it's one of those 613 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:28,760 things that I'm grateful when it comes. Right. Grateful when it 614 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:33,160 comes, but aware of the reality that there and some people, 615 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:37,080 those who are getting ready to challenge that and plan on 616 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:42,920 revealing this and I want to keep it sacred and off the 617 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:46,680 table for the most part. But my stepmom passed away on Sunday. 618 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:50,760 And I found out yesterday my brother called me. 619 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:56,440 Step brother. We will be family for life. Always. You know, 620 00:39:56,440 --> 00:40:00,040 because of the relationship and bond that we formed. And so 621 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:04,440 when you're going through something like that, you and 622 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:09,800 ironically, my sister, my half sister, she two days before he 623 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,280 told me, no, the day before she sent me a video of Andy 624 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:17,240 Grammer and Andy Grammer in this video says he's sharing 625 00:40:17,240 --> 00:40:21,480 about running into your grief like head on, but in a positive 626 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:25,560 way. And he says, you know, he was he'll be in the grocery 627 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:29,080 store line. They'll say, you know, hey, you remind me of my 628 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,720 mom. My mom just passed away. Do you mind if I buy groceries? 629 00:40:31,720 --> 00:40:36,600 I can't do that for her anymore. And the touching 630 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,320 experience that can occur with that. I mean, he did another 631 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,200 place. The same thing. The lady said, you remind me of my 632 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,760 son and my son just passed away. And next thing you know, 633 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,280 they're bawling and they're sharing this experience 634 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:52,200 together. And so I, you know, I received that right before 635 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:56,600 getting the news about my step mom and thinking about all the 636 00:40:56,600 --> 00:41:00,360 things that I wanted to do, you know, to to facilitate our 637 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,800 relationship, we had started the process. Okay, there are 638 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:08,280 certain things that we didn't get to go over like, how much 639 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:13,000 she strived to help my dad with me, like we work so hard on 640 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:17,960 finding on facilitating his light. And so anyway, you've 641 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,560 inspired that share, because at the end of the day, while 642 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,800 while happiness is something that's hard to come across 643 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,120 when you're going through something like that. I have 644 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:30,840 peace. I have that nobody can take my peace from me only I 645 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:34,360 can. And so that's the that's the main sentiment that I that 646 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,320 I go for in life sentiment. And thank you so much for sharing 647 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:45,240 that. I'm so sorry for your loss and peace, ease, hope. Those 648 00:41:45,240 --> 00:41:54,680 feel fulfillment, reverence, those virtues. Yeah, yeah, they 649 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:59,240 feel heavy enough that I can like, place on to me and feel 650 00:41:59,240 --> 00:42:03,560 their power where Yeah, some of these flippant words we use, 651 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:08,360 they don't hold it. Right. And I would also challenge you. I'll 652 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:13,160 challenge you on this happiness has its place in the virtue 653 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:17,800 category. But I think sometimes we redefine our language. You 654 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,440 know, like we redefine them terms of mean like when we first 655 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:24,200 learn about love, right, and we fall in love, we know we were 656 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,520 trying to figure that out as kids like what that means, as 657 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,280 adults, we're still trying to figure it out. We just think we 658 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:32,200 have we like to justify it, right. But we tell somebody, I 659 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,920 love you, because we want something from them, right, you 660 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:38,280 know, there might be an element of truth to it. But at the same 661 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:42,280 time, right, as a little kid, you learn to say things that 662 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,480 that gets you things in return, you're not necessarily 663 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,920 leveraging the virtue in the right way. No, you know, you're 664 00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,880 you're learning the process. So I think happiness is one of 665 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:55,080 those things too, where we I've had friends that think fun is 666 00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,560 happiness. It's not there's a reason there's two different 667 00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:01,240 words. I see. Yeah, I see. Yeah, yes. Point of reference. 668 00:43:01,240 --> 00:43:04,600 Yes, point received. And not to be argued with. There are 669 00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:08,840 several words actually that and small phrases in this year 670 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:13,480 alone that have turned a coin for me like have new meaning. 671 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:18,920 New definition for me. And if someone were to ask willing to 672 00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,800 get in the conversation, but you know, how often are we doing 673 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:26,520 this on the street? Like, what's your definition of rigor? You 674 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:31,960 know, it's like never so but I know it for myself. And that 675 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:37,080 feels like good enough. I love that. Well, my my final, I'm 676 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:41,640 just gonna put a plug in for you. Because you've created a 677 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:45,720 safe space for me to jointly talk about you these talk about 678 00:43:45,720 --> 00:43:50,280 these topics with you. You facilitated, you know, and 679 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:54,520 co facilitated this podcast with me quite well. And you also 680 00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,080 have a depth of understanding when it comes to strategy and 681 00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:00,600 how to make sure that that engagements like this are on 682 00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:04,040 point. I can see how you could do that for an organization as 683 00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:07,880 well. And when it comes to coaching, right, the ability to 684 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:13,560 both provide feedback and mold and just the situation, you 685 00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:17,160 have all that. So if there are organizations out there that 686 00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:21,560 are striving to create change or in a position where change 687 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:26,120 seems difficult or impossible to achieve, find the world would 688 00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:29,640 they hesitate to bring you in and to help facilitate the 689 00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:33,960 process of understanding how to go about that, rather than risk 690 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:37,160 blowing the entire thing up by doing it without a 691 00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,880 facilitator. You know, I'd rather turn to somebody that 692 00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:43,640 I've I've heard about recently gotten to see an action and 693 00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:48,760 your your cultural background is so needed right now in a 694 00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:52,040 world where companies aren't working with a local 695 00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:56,840 department. We're working with multiple nations, multiple 696 00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,400 people who travel around the world to earn an influence by 697 00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:03,800 all sorts of cultures. You're way ahead of the curve. So 698 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,440 where can we get in touch with you if if we want to reach 699 00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:13,720 out? You can email me V at adventures of community.com same 700 00:45:13,720 --> 00:45:18,280 website adventures of community.com Instagram 701 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,320 adventures of community. I mean, let's call it branding or 702 00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:25,160 what? Okay, so you can find me in the places LinkedIn, 703 00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:29,320 Victoria, Cumberbatch. Okay, all those places. Awesome. All 704 00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:32,680 those places. It has been wonderful to host you. If 705 00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,560 anybody has any questions for Victoria, don't hesitate to 706 00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,360 leave it in the comment on the on the show while we'll get to 707 00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:42,280 those. We'll facilitate them as they come in and also like I 708 00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,480 said, don't hesitate to reach out to her directly and on and 709 00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,880 just strike up a conversation about what your potential needs 710 00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:51,320 are. If you got an event, you got a company, department, 711 00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:55,160 whatever, and we appreciate having you on the show is there 712 00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,640 I'm gonna give you one more one more chance since we've got 713 00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:01,960 we're a little bit over. But I'm enjoying your vibe. Okay, 714 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:05,880 final piece of of wisdom you'd like to share with the 715 00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,360 audience. 716 00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:15,800 Thank you. My final piece of wisdom is from my dad, Simeon 717 00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:20,520 Cumberbatch, the man, the legend, and he always used to 718 00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:26,760 say, know your resources and don't be afraid to ask. Lean 719 00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:30,200 in to support, request what you need. We do not need to be 720 00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:33,160 individualistic. We get to be in community and 721 00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:37,240 collaboration. Lean in, be vulnerable to say, hey, I'm 722 00:46:37,240 --> 00:46:40,680 having a hard spot. This is what I need. Can you help? People 723 00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:44,680 won't know unless you let them know. I love it. Vision 724 00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:48,520 Pros. I hope you follow that. I invite you to to do so and we 725 00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,840 will see you on the next episode. Thanks, everybody. 726 00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:52,840 Thank you. It's been a pleasure. Thank you for being 727 00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,240 here today. I'm really happy that you tuned in to Vision 728 00:46:55,240 --> 00:46:58,840 Pros Live. I'm looking forward to seeing your reactions as 729 00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:01,480 these episodes continue to move forward. This is gonna get 730 00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,200 more and more fun. We'll have more and more engagement as 731 00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,920 well. We'll invite people to participate in the show and 732 00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,400 thank you for giving us your time and attention. Have an 733 00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:14,920 excellent time building out.