also got some other buddies, reach out to them too. You know, I'll send you some data.
So I reached out there. And actually, I believe since my initial talk with Jaime, the podcast
I've started has actually started to publish some of its episodes. There's a guy named
Marty Weiner, who's the ex-CTR.
What's your podcast name, though?
It's called The Fourth Age.
The Fourth Age.
Yes.
Marty Weiner.
Marty Weiner, the ex-CTO of Reddit and I are talking about AI and computational impacts
on human society and why we shouldn't expect any of this to keep happening and we need
to build something else that has a future.
Yeah.
All right. Welcome in to Vision Pros Live. With Jackson Calame, I'm your show host. We'll
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All right. What's up, Vision Pros? My name is Jackson Calame, your show host and the
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So without further ado, I have a gentleman come out on the show. His name is Noah Healy
and Noah is all about concepts, ideas that have to do with math and finances. It's way
above my head. The business is called CoreDisc from what I see like coordinated and disc
kind of combined exchanges, commodities, markets, forecasters, consumers, products, closer trading
windows. Like this is not an area that I dive into. In fact, this is an area that I kind
of digress from most of the time. And I know enough about finances and the foreign exchange
market and stocks and all that to be super, super dangerous. But what we're going to be
challenging Noah to do is simplify his message in terms that all of us can benefit from.
So if you know that you can be a wiser steward of your finances and you know that there's
tremendous changes in terms of the markets and what's going on and AI and what you can
be doing to expand your wealth and knowledge of wealth and how finances work and commodities,
et cetera, then this is an episode to tune into and say, you know what, can he simplify
it enough for the layman to get it? And I'll throw myself in that bucket when it comes
to exchanges and commodities and all that. I tend to stay in the layman's term. So Noah,
thank you so much for being on Vision Pros Live. Let's hear about your vision. Thank
you for being here, my friend. Thanks for having me here, Jackson. Yeah, absolutely.
So my first question for you is going to settle us in who the heck should be listening to
what we're talking about today? Why should they listen to you specifically and what are
they going to get out of today's show? Well, the primary beneficiaries of my idea
would be people who eat food, live in shelter or wear clothing that they didn't personally
make themselves out of land that they defend for themselves. So basically everyone who's
ever heard your show or ever will would be better off for the sorts of changes and visions
that I'm talking about. And so what I hope that they get out of it is an understanding
of some of the very fundamental things that are impacting the economy that effectively
never get talked about because virtually nobody is aware that these sorts of problems underpin
so much of the chaos that we see and to take hope because there really are solutions that
don't just sort of paper over the cracks, but in fact give us a radically better and
more robust economy if just a few people manage to get together and start building these things.
Okay, interesting. So let's expand a little bit more on that vision. I like the analogy
of the paper over cracks and the foundation that could be alluded to there that if we
pull together. So what is your vision for those that you serve in 30 seconds?
A financial marketplace that serves their needs based on their individual interests.
That's all sounds I guess loose, but it's all mathematically precise. A system that
is as much a level up over the markets that we presently have as those markets were over
the medieval trading style that preceded them.
Okay, you said loose. I thought it sounded concise to be honest with you. So I thought
it was well delivered and certainly there's room to expand on it. So it sounds like a
new marketplace. There's an opportunity to establish a new marketplace. Did I catch
that correctly?
Yes, absolutely.
Okay. And you guys, you may not have, no one may not unpack all that in the next 45 minutes,
but if that's of excitement to you and you're like, huh, I want to know how that looks or
I want to discuss and debate that with them, that by all means you can reach out to Noah
and make sure you dive in deep. We might circle back to that and just conquer the world today
on the show. So in 15 seconds, so first, let's hear a little bit about you. What's your personal
vision over the next 15, 20 years? What do you want to accomplish? What do you see for
yourself?
Better markets for a wealthier world is my watchword that by upgrading how economics
functions, we upgrade how economics functions and it serves us all better. My personal interest
is in computational mathematics and I would like to keep working in the area of seeing
how to actually utilize computers to make our lives easier, more economically viable
and aid in the expansion of human capacity.
Nice. Okay. And we're going to go into a very fun question. As an entrepreneur, business
owner or with the marketplace, you're welcome to expand on this, but what's your worst business
experience ever?
The patent office going full Kafka. So the patent office has agreed to extend this patent
on my concept to me twice. It has withdrawn both of them and the second time it did that.
It did so for no reason that it could express because the people who my attorneys and I
were allowed to speak to informed us that people who we were not allowed to speak to
had told them to stop extending permission and that those people who we weren't allowed
to talk to hadn't given any reason that the people we are allowed to talk to could understand
or agree with. And after raising a stink with my congressional office, then the patent office
stiffed my congressional office as well. So they'd never seen anything like that before
either. So right now it's heading to a panel of appeal in two years.
Great. And the panel of appeal is at what level?
So this is, it's sometimes colloquially known as patent court. So the initial sort of court
filing for patents actually happens inside the regulatory body itself.
Wow man. That is intense. That's a pretty big worst business experience. And so you've
got a two year ride to do what? What do you do in the meantime?
Well pretty much what I've been doing before, the basic challenge with this is figuring
out how to get people aware of exactly how bad the problems are and exactly what those
bad problems are and how the solution works and how they could contribute towards that
solution. And so from that perspective, whether or not there's it's on patent or off patent
is totally irrelevant. And in fact, I'm not pursuing an international patent that's far
too expensive and far too complicated. You can see how much trouble I'm just having with
the United States government. So it's open source overseas.
Okay. And so what do you do in the meantime as far as pivoting for the sake of income?
I'm assuming you can't sell whatever is related to that patent in the meantime. Is that correct?
Well again, in theory, I can offer professional services in terms of consultation on creating
marketplaces and that's what I attempt to do for people that actually want to build
a marketplace. Gotcha. Okay. And I can relate to this to a degree in a different sense.
Apple patented our restaurant software when I was facing the company for Restaurant Connect.
And it was like the worst three hours ever. I felt like I was going to have a heart attack
because here's everything that we built patented by this giant. And like literally I thought
my heart was going to explode. I was like, Oh my gosh, like everything we stand for,
everything we've built is right here, including everything our competitors have built. Like
what the heck is Apple doing? You know, and so after like whining and crying and wondering
like, am I going to go to jail? Am I going to prison if we keep building this company?
Like, how does this whole thing work? I just get back on the phones and kept calling restaurants
and providing our solutions. And I was like, well, whatever, you know, like I don't have
the time. I know the time and of the space to just give up on what I was doing. And I
just couldn't worry about it. You know, I was like, this is, this is way above my, my
pay grade and vision at the time. I just kept going. So if any of you listening to this
have another idea, you know, or like, Oh my gosh, like Jackson, no, you should just like
next time, burn your company alive and move on. Feel free to put a comment on it. But
I think the greater reality that I hear you saying, Noah, is that you keep providing value
to the market. Best I can. Yeah. Okay. That's right. So good. And you're learning to play
by the rules and the process. But let's move into another topic here. What's your best
experience in business ever? I had, I had a guy who was a friend of a friend, but he's,
he's trying to launch a market on the blockchain in Singapore. And he actually traveled from
Mexico City to Charlottesville, my hometown, and spent the weekend going into the math
and ultimately agreeing to attempt to incorporate my technology into his, his business. Cool.
So what happened? Still trying to do fundraising. Right now there are three different attempts
to build marketplaces with my technology in them. Unfortunately, building marketplaces
is itself a difficult prospect. You have to, you have to know the customer base that you're
dealing with, and you have to be able to cope with the regulatory environment of whatever
that customer base is. And you generally need a pretty large sack of cash just in order
to generate enough trust to cope with those issues. And so far, none of my, none of my
interested counterparties have actually succeeded in getting their markets set up yet. Okay.
And when we're talking about building a marketplace, you know, my brain goes in all sorts of uneducated
directions. One of the directions it goes in is this whole situation that's occurred
with the, I know Seth Curry and Shaquille O'Neal, MBA had like invested in some type
of blockchain, NFC technology stuff. And then there was again, some important financial
guy who's taken a lot of heat, young guy with whatever, whatever hasn't panned out too well
in relation to blockchain and crypto. Right. So now I've exposed, I hope how completely
foreign I am to all of this stuff. Is that what you're talking about when you're talking
about marketplace or is there more to it? Do you want to break down for us and more
simple terms like? Yeah, certainly. So a market is simply an
entity for buyers and sellers to come together to make deals. So that covers everything from
weekly market opportunities, flea markets that might exist in businesses to online presences.
Amazon, for example, creates a retail marketplace for people to sell through their systems.
I'm speaking specifically about financial marketplaces. So this would be environments
that allowed people to speculate on indices for various products or buy and sell forwards.
That is deals that are to be executed in the future or options or again, potentially a
spot market, which is essentially very short term forwards for people that want to buy
or sell something more or less right now. And so in those environments, that's where
commoditizing comes in. When you go to the store, you can pick stuff up off the shelf
and sort of decide, do you want that apple? Do you want this apple? Maybe that pear over
there is actually the kind of thing you're interested in. But if you're running a business,
either on the productive or consumptive side, you need steel. You need to know what grades
of steel exist. You need to be able to produce those grades of steel in ways that you can
advertise the entire world. That's what you're doing. And you need to just get those grades
of steel off the shelf. You don't need to buy from Sam who's across town. You need to
buy steel or cheese or whatever other kinds of products, lumber, wool, so on. And so these
commoditized marketplaces have the characteristic that there is competition on both sides. There's
competition to sell to each buyer and there's competition to buy from each seller. And that's
tremendously powerful and offers much more efficient schemes than something like an Amazon
globalized retail market does, which becomes very expensive to use. And Amazon has no particular
interest in making it less expensive to use because your expense is their income.
Okay. So you broke down a lot of really great examples for me. Thank you for that. I have
more clarity on marketplaces and what type of marketplaces look like. Now, my question
goes into the why I don't see the correlation between why Amazon is deemed as expensive
and I want to. And I obviously want to understand that as a consumer. So compared to what?
So compared to a commodity marketplace. So let's say you were in the business of buying
corn. Corn's been fully commoditized. So there's an efficient marketplace that's headquartered
in Chicago that will sell you effectively train loads of corn at a time. If you were
to go to Amazon, number one, corn might be a little tricky to find there. You know, next
day shipping, you'd want it pretty rapidly maybe. But if you're going to buy something
relatively standard on Amazon, like an office chair, for example, you'd pretty swiftly discover
is that there are thousands and thousands and thousands of different brands of office
chair and they all use exactly the same picture to describe their office chairs. So are those
all the same office chair with different brand identities or are some of them scams? Well,
some of them are scams. In the Chicago environment, there's no concern about is this guy who's
trying to sell me this train of load of corn versus that guy who's trying to sell me that
train load of corn a scam artist because they've taken care of that. There's a mechanism to
ensure that there's grades of corn and that people are sort of meeting their requirements.
Amazon on the other hand makes more money the more brands there are because the brand
owners essentially have to pay Amazon to make themselves available and then pay for advertising
space to promote themselves in the sea of thousands of brands that they have to get
passed. And so all of those expenses ultimately rest on the consumer who has to pay the freight.
If that company has to give Amazon money to put it near the top of the page that can sell
you the chair, then they need to recoup that money from somewhere and it's not falling
out of the sky. It's coming out of your pocket. That makes sense. But my question for you
is where can I find a cheaper chair? Well, the trick is that chairs aren't a commodity
product. If they were, if humans had standardized on three or four different kinds of chair
and that's just it. People just made one of three or four different kinds of chair, then
highly efficient marketplaces and chairs could exist and all the chairs that you saw at McDonald's
and the movie theater and your living room would be one of these three kinds of chairs.
Okay. So let's try to go to an analogy that sticks to the point, I think, because that
will help more. So you mentioned corn, for instance, and then that it could be bought
through Amazon. But what I'm trying to do is I'm trying to find Noah the correlation
between your expertise and the marketplace and how it relates to the consumer.
Well, that's where the advantage actually accrues to the consumer is that if what you
actually need is commodity product. So if you're in a situation where you're running
a business that consumes a certain amount of foodstuffs or, you know, bored feet of
lumber or particular kinds of... What are some examples, yeah, of the commoditized products
or services? Wool, cotton, oil, iron, coal, copper, silver,
corn, wheat, rice, pot meat, cheese, butter, milk is traded through commodity marketplaces.
So these are the types of products that you can build marketplaces for, new marketplaces
for? Yes. Yes. So those are all markets. Those
are all products that have existing marketplaces built for them that could be replaced by my
technology. Gotcha. And you want to create new marketplaces?
So my technology changes how those marketplaces work. And so much as shifting from a horse
and buggy to car, you're sort of doing the same thing, but you're not doing it the same
way. My marketplace could shift and take over how those existing markets operate. But there
are also products that aren't currently large scale enough to be traded through those kinds
of things. So something like mohair or camel hair are popular types of threads that are
used to make clothing, but those aren't very large markets and they're not historically
embedded. And so they're much too small to support an existing commodity market structure.
My marketplace is more efficient, so you could in theory operate in there. Other materials
like cobalt and lithium, for example, are industrial materials that are becoming much
more common these days than they used to be. And so it would be possible to set up brand
new markets in those using my technology as they grow.
Okay. So how does this relate and help all those people you mentioned, like everyday
commodity stuff? What's the tie in to the audience?
The existing overheads that you pay for the costs of the existing marketplace are considerable.
In aluminum, for example, there was a mechanism that was discovered that allowed a company
to effectively skim off something on the order of 20% of the aluminum market, which meant
that if you bought anything that had aluminum in it, 20 cents of every dollar that you spent
on the aluminum was given to a company that had figured out how to rig the financial market
so that you would have to pay them money. So basically, if you used aluminum foil in
the last quarter of a century, you overspent by a pretty healthy margin just because of
that fact. This spreads across all things. Large fractions of what you spend on the raw
materials for food, shelter, and clothing, as well as what you pay at the pump, is being
chewed up by market overheads.
Okay. And so is there anything I can do about that? So let's say my underwear, I get from
Amazon, right? And so Amazon Essentials, I'm a big fan of their product line because it's
super easy, super simple, and I guess I'm paying 20 cents more for it. So what shift
is taking place? What are you doing to protect my 20 cents or $2 extra or whatever it is
I'm paying?
Well, that's where the thing gets challenging is that this is a technology that needs to
be embedded into marketplaces. And so we need to generate new, for say underwear, cotton
nets that would incorporate this technology and create these more stable, less expensive
markets.
So there's something the consumer can do about it, or are we just kind of at the mercy of
people who decide to make better technology or not?
Well, if you're completely unattached, sort of the best thing that you can do is, much
like the Robin Hood people, you could get yourself on my list so that I could sort of
have evidence of a large enough interested party group to be able to go to funding agencies
and say, hey, there's a built-in market, let's just build one of these things. But if you
are a consumer of end products, you aren't a direct user of these marketplaces, you are
instead simply a victim of them.
Right. And so I guess the question is, so then who can we connect, who do you need to
be connected to on your end in order to make a difference?
People who currently do or legally could operate a financial institution.
Financial institution meaning? Defined as?
So there's certain regulatory requirements that are very similar to the requirements
for setting up banks. And that's what's going on. Commodity marketplaces are generally regulated
by the CFTC, which is sort of an analog to the SEC. So the SEC is very famous, Securities
Exchange Commission. The CFTC is the Commodity Futures Trading Commission.
Right. So how are you going about getting the connections that you need to be able to
have that type of influence?
Well that's basically the challenge. I reach out around the world and also get myself on
podcasts in the hopes of maybe getting a flea in somebody's ear to build up these connection
plans to try to get to the people who can actually build these markets, either because
they're already operating them or because they have the regulatory wherewithal to set
one up.
So one of the things we did in I Come, Make, or Live, one of the core activities that I
love that Tom suggested was something that we pay attention to daily as entrepreneurs,
as leaders, as visionaries in the world. It's called the Dream 100. You've probably heard
the concept or utilize it yourself. But ultimately that's, I need to have a list of my top one
hundred people where if these one hundred people, if one of these one hundred people
were to promote me, were to talk about the importance of what I do or what my business
is, it would have an exponential effect on what it is I'm capable of doing or accomplishing.
Or they're like the right perfect fit client, for instance, or a person to invest. So if
you don't have the Dream 100, I highly recommend creating your Dream 100, Noah, because it's
you know, rather than shooting the dark, right, with different podcasters, which I don't think
you're doing too much. But I'm just saying to juxtaposition the two.
No, that that is much more of what I'm trying to do. I actually sadly just got shot down
by one of mine three days ago.
Shot down or not interested yet?
I'd say shot down. He took the time to actually respond. But the CEO of the Intercontinental
Exchange linked with me on LinkedIn in order to respond. No, thanks. So.
So that's not now.
That's yeah. OK.
And that's I get it. I mean, I'm a sales guy. I've been knocking doors since I was 19 years
old trying to teach people about God. All right. That was my first cell. And it was
the hardest of all. And not interested, not now. There's a there's a lot of things that
could cause that to come up. But if you are patient, you are persistent, you are consistent
and you are reliable. Those four factors make a massive difference. And my number one sales
compliment always was not Jackson's the most wise, smooth talking, charismatic person.
No, it was always my boss would always get Jackson is persistent, which is basically
a backhanded compliment of Jackson won't go away. Right. He's not giving up. He just keeps
trying and trying and trying. So the cool news is you've you've made your first touch.
Your danger experience has started right where it's like, I don't know, this Noah guy from
Bill. Right. Which why would I why would I go with him? And if you if you stay tenacious
with the process and keep refining how you're going about that approach, it's amazing what
can happen. So I would I would say if this is your life goal, like if this is your passion,
your vision, what you want people to understand and keep refining your approach to how you're
going about the cause and keep expanding that dream 100 and, you know, dust yourself off,
get up again and think, all right, well, obviously that approach didn't work this time. But maybe
in six months that dude's forgotten you completely and your new approach completely changes the
game. That's that's certainly possible. And that hope is worth holding out in terms of
life goal. The the existing market systems, sadly, are degrading in functionality. So
that same kind of issue that Amazon has where they make more money by costing you more money
also infects the general financial markets as well, because computers basically make
it cheaper to inject noise into the marketplace. And the more noise there is in the system,
the more the system charges for the assurances that it provides. Does that create less of
a need for you or more of a need for you and what you're building? Vastly more of a need
for me. In fact, yes. So your value in the marketplace is rising. I don't think it's
good news for the market. I mean, it's not good news for me. We're not trying to think
evil here, but just pointing out in terms of your value, it's becoming it's going to
become more and more clear why what you do is important. And you're simultaneously going
to be working on optimizing how you talk about it to gain attention. And those two things
will hopefully cross at a healthy. I yes, I keep that's what I keep in the game for.
And these markets are doomed to collapse at some point, because there is some level of
unsupportable cost that the economy cannot bear. We don't know what that is. But since
there is no governor that will that has been able to cause that cost to be contained, and
there's no algorithmic mechanism that will contain it. Who's on your dream 100? The operators
and board members of the benchmark marketplaces. So the Intercontinental Exchange, the CME
Group, the London Metals Exchange, the other important regional markets. So there's an
African exchange, Australia has its own exchange, France has its own exchange, the EU has exchanges
headquartered in Switzerland, China, and in Shanghai and Hong Kong has exchanges.
All these countries that have their exchanges and then have you done your digging a research
to know who meaning John Miller at China's and
I'm really awful with names, but basically their CEO and board members are all publicly
available and I you know, you can find at least some of them on LinkedIn.
These are big because you if you put those, you know, those people as human beings into
spreadsheet right of okay, this person works at such and such and he's got this for this
title, etc. And you know that your dream list can be within a spreadsheet and then you start
running that by some of the high value connections that you have in life. People who are connectors,
people who love to ring about change in the world. The more thorough you have built out
that list and who's doing what and how to potentially get a hold of them and look to
to serve other markets of you know, in terms of like, hey, I can help introduce you to
so and so on you to so and so we have that list active so that you can ask people around
you like, Hey, do you know any of these five to 10 people, you don't have to put all 100
in front of
I actually have been using LinkedIn pretty extensively, which is nice because it actually
records their their connections and so I can see the connections that acceptances have.
So I, I had just over 100 connections on LinkedIn when I started this particular journey and
I just passed 7500 this afternoon. And I, I persistently do outreach on LinkedIn to
expand my, my list, try to find people to talk to, and then try to get those people
to introduce me to other people. And so, of the, of the three groups that that I've, I'm
working with, one of them was a more or less a pure LinkedIn catch. One of them was local
networking that wound up going global. And the third one was through podcasting.
Yep, very good. And as you again refine that 7500, you want to expand it for distribution
sake but also refine that clarity around which 100 and why, you know, why those 100 and what
would you do to, to get in front of those. Another great book on the subject is raving
fans. Raving fans by Ken Blanchard breaks down how to have influence with those who
you want to become raving fans. For instance, if I'm going to sell a new microwave to McDonald's
to improve their microwaving capabilities, I don't know if you can, well let's say we
did, right? My, my prospect, my decision makers, the franchise owner could have something to
say about it. The general manager, you know, may have something to say about it. The, the
lead chef cook might have something to say about the process. The person who I have to
invoice, right, in order to get me paid for the microwave may have something to say. All
those people might become stumbling blocks in the process of working with me. So my goal,
if I want to create a raving fan is how do I make sure that my system, the process of
working with my microwave improves every single person's life who has to be involved with
or touch what it is I do, even though it has nothing to do with the microwave itself. Right.
That's an important factor. If you can, if you can figure out how your system affects
or relates to each one of those individuals, then you can also speak to those individuals
based on their needs, which allows them to tap on the door of the next person with more
purpose and more, more selfish reasons, as well as say, Hey boss, will you take a look
at what he has? Because it's going to help you this way, but they secretly already now
know how it's going to affect and benefit them. I hope that's helpful for you.
No, that's, yeah, that's, that's good. I, I call, I call my version of that approach
of the story matrix and I have a, I have a, a basically a spreadsheet set up. But the,
the core mathematical approach I have within game theory actually addresses precisely that
this notion that if you're in a coordination game, basically a cooperative style situation,
the, the critical stakeholders, I think is sort of the, the now unfortunately freighted
modern term, but we'll have interests that are not oppositional. They don't have to be
common, but they have to, you know, there can't be a zero sum I win, you lose type of
relationship for that to be true. And so you can effectively construct a very simple,
who's in the game, what do they want? And then use that to structure the math of what
it's possible to offer the various players. And I grade them basically green, yellow,
red, green players are the ones that you need for your, your cooperative system to keep
functioning and red players are the players that you need not to be in the system for
it to function. And then yellow are indifferent. If they show up, that's fine. If they, if
they toss them out, that's also fine. And so the, the mathematical challenge is then
to construct a negotiation game and CDM is a negotiation game that operates a commodity
market that offers all of the green players a bonus for playing your game and offers all
of the red players a loss for playing your game. And if you, if you find that mathematical
structure, then you build a building system. Unfortunately, I don't have a generic arbitrary
sales model. I need very simplistic things like regional or continental scale commodity
markets to, to make the math work.
Yeah. There's a, there's a lot to it. So if you are listening and you speak math, obviously,
and Forex and commodities and all that, then of course reach out to Noah on LinkedIn. As
we've heard, a great place to reach out to him at and continue the mastermind of the
dream 100 and, and, you know, moving, moving these mountains that he sees as, as impediments
to our, our society and our economic wellbeing. And I appreciate, you know, for tackling,
tackling subjects that others, you know, may choose to just kind of ignore, you know, or
not, not, not necessarily prioritize in life, but they do sound important. And I appreciate
you breaking down some of that for us over the last 45 minutes. Thank you for being on
my vision, bro. So do you have something else you'd like to add?
No, no, I just wanted to thank you. Yeah. Great chance.
I learned, I did, I learned quite a bit in this and drove in to certain territories of,
of my own dream 100 and thinking through this process of like, well, who, who should I connect
Noah with? And so we may catch up about that a little bit more right after the call, but
vision pros. If you have a vision that you're working on, then continue to work on, of course,
clarifying and projecting the end of the world. Jump on stage with us over here at vision
pros live and get your message out there and Noah, thanks again for being here. Everybody.
You can find more links in the show notes. So learn more about what Noah Healy does and
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