in love with fitness.
And so I became certified in 2001
after losing all the weight and really rehabbing my back
and being able to do things that doctors said
I was never gonna be able to do like squats and deadlifts.
And from there it just blossomed.
And I had an opportunity.
I don't know, I think I was on somebody's mailing list
because I was a brand new personal trainer.
Like open up your own personal trainer facility.
I'm like, yeah, let's go, let's do this.
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So with that said, Coach Sean Murphy,
super happy to have you here.
Excited to get to know your story.
Welcome to the show.
We're happy to have you as a Vision Pro on Vision Pros Live.
Dude, I am so grateful and humbled to be here.
This is an honor.
I really do appreciate it, Jackson.
Well, man, I'm excited.
It's our honor as well.
So we'll go on and on our back and forth for a while.
Just kidding.
We're gonna dive right into the first question.
So the biggest question I have for you, Sean,
is who should be listening to this show?
Why should they listen to you?
And what are they gonna get out of our discussion today?
Yeah, there's so much to cover with that.
But let me just keep it to my passion.
And who should be listening to me is anybody
who's feeling a little maybe distraught right now.
Maybe they're feeling a little lost in the wilderness.
This is hard, right?
And I know that your show caters a lot to the entrepreneur.
And sometimes we could just feel all alone.
Like my personal story, I was surrounded by clients.
I was surrounded by loved ones.
I was surrounded by coaches and a gym full of people,
but I never felt more alone.
And that was just because of the internal stories
that were going on.
And your close friends, your family, your peers,
they can't relate to an entrepreneur, right?
Like they don't get it.
They don't have the same mindset.
So they don't have, you can't really share
your struggles with them.
And in the same breath,
you can't even share your victories with them
because they just don't get it.
And so I always felt very alone for a very long time.
And when the hard times hit, I had nowhere to turn.
And so I was turning to like alcohol
and things of that nature.
So, and it led me down a very dark road.
So with that said, I went through this almost a decade
of living damaged, defeated, and depressed.
And so if there's somebody here today
that's feeling that struggle,
I would invite you to tune in
because you do not have to live damaged,
defeated, depressed.
There is a road out and I would be honored
to share that with you today.
Dude, that's awesome.
It's deep and it's very important,
especially for, you know, well, those individuals directly.
And, you know, if you're newer to the entrepreneur path
and journey, there is a period of isolation,
a path phase and a path of isolation
that I don't think it can be avoided.
It can be confusing.
You can have people who join you on that.
There's mentors who will help cheer you on
and help you go through it.
But at the same time, the amount of life changes
that you have to make in the process
is something that, you know,
most gurus don't wanna market
because it's not sellable, you know, in that regard.
But it is not an easy path to become an entrepreneur.
That's right.
No, and I'm glad that you brought that up
because, you know, there's a lot of glam
behind entrepreneurship today.
Like it's the buzzword, start your side hustle,
you know, get into the online space.
You could do this, you could do that,
which I think everybody should.
Like I think if you're struggling with your finances,
you should definitely be starting a side hustle,
but don't think it's a get rich quick scheme overnight
or anything like that.
Like, you know, in order to have,
like there's certain steps that we have to go through, right?
But there's a lot of great mentors out there.
You don't have to do it alone.
And it's hard as it might be,
it's fulfilling and very rewarding.
So it's very much worth it.
I don't know what the Charles and Triglacies
you have to go through.
You know, and to some of you younger entrepreneurs,
you know, I'm 35 now, but I started as an entrepreneur,
you know, when I was 21.
And I'd already done lots of entrepreneurial things,
including my mission, right?
Which is extremely entrepreneurial.
Pretty much my whole life I've been going through it.
So I did have a little bit of a culture
of understanding of what it was like.
And at the same time, when I made the leap
to actually being an entrepreneur,
you know, my friendships that weren't entrepreneurs
didn't really keep up, you know, didn't really reach out.
And I stopped reaching out because I had things to do,
but I also had new relationships develop.
And so it was kind of a natural process for me in my 20s,
because that's what you do when you go to college, you know,
and when you do those things.
Well, the same thing is true with entrepreneurship,
but I can definitely see what you've exposed my mind, Sean,
to that reality that, whoa, you know,
like when you're 30 or 40 and doing that, you know,
and even if again, like I said, those who are right there,
you're giving them insight into seeing those obstacles
that are heading their way.
And now, again, you can navigate it easier
with a team of mentors.
And I would say a team of mentors.
So let's talk about this.
What is your vision, Sean,
for those that you serve in 30 seconds?
Yeah, so for those who I serve, it's really helping people,
it's really helping entrepreneur navigate their businesses
through biblical truth and wisdom,
because that's really what got me out of the dark places.
That's when I just started seeing it.
I came from a place of a selfish heart,
and now I come from a servant heart,
and that was the game changer for everything.
So yeah, that's who I'd be here to serve, for sure.
I love that.
So some people would say manipulating scripture
in order to gain a profitable outcome,
but that would be the misheard version
of what you just said.
So let's dive a little bit deeper
into demystifying biblical lessons.
And I'm gonna include right up front,
lessons from any religious books
and elements of truth that exist in the world,
elements of truth, not speculated truth, elements of truth.
If you're doing that, then the goal is to utilize that
in order to carve out a path of success
with more certainty based on principles.
So how do you deal with that scenario or equation
when people feel a little uncomfortable
about tying business and religion together,
or business and spirituality?
No, it's funny.
There's really two sizes spectrum, right?
Like there's the prosperity gospel, right?
And that's kind of the Joel Olsteen to the world.
And then you have the, really the poverty gospel,
where it's like, you can't be rich and righteous.
And unfortunately, both sides of the spectrum
have it all wrong.
I firmly believe that the Bible is the greatest
business book that has ever written.
And it starts with the book of Genesis,
where it straight up tells us,
well, I'll just read it to you.
Because I hate doing it from memory,
but it's right in Genesis chapter one.
And God said to them in verse 28,
be fruitful and increase the number,
fill the earth and subdue it,
rule over the fish and the sea and the birds and air
and everything and every living creature
that moves on the ground.
So he commanded us to be, he commanded us to,
hey, you are going to be fruitful and increase the number.
And I'm gonna give you an assignment,
which is going to be to rule,
have dominion over the earth.
And that is exactly what our instructions are.
We are here to, we're here to serve our God.
And in doing so, we have an assignment to fulfill.
And personally, I feel that my assignment
is to serve others.
And so I'll do it at the highest capacity possible.
So-
Let's explore some of those synonyms
for those old school words you utilized.
So you said be fruitful.
What's another word for fruitful?
Well, another word for fruitful is,
multiple are just, yeah, it's bearing fruit.
It's-
Bear fruit, right?
To be productive, to multiply, right?
As well, but there's lots of ways to look at that.
And I appreciate that you include how we provide
for ourselves.
And that's where that dominion part
kind of comes into play too.
A lot of people associate dominion with dominate,
but there are other ways of looking at it,
like presiding, which means to be an example.
Absolutely.
When we deface the scary reality of modern vernacular,
or modern words, and start to look at,
how do these things, how do these words exist in harmony?
You know, for our wellbeing and our good cheer,
then it can be a pretty phenomenal process.
So I'm curious too.
In 15 seconds, what's your vision personally?
You know, it's to hear the words,
well done, good and faithful servant.
And that's really it.
That's it.
That's really deep.
You can mic drop on that.
I'm cool with that.
I know what that means.
So for those of you who are looking out for what that means,
you know, that is who,
I'm gonna define this somewhat for you, Sean.
And I'd love for you to correct me or add to it,
but I would say that's his God, you know,
his father in heaven who loves him saying at the end,
you did awesome.
Like you did exactly what, you know,
you made it and there's more goodness ahead because of that.
Is that fair?
You nailed it, 100%.
Yes, sir.
That's powerful.
I definitely hope to have the same experience.
So let's dive into business a bit further
and deep into the darkness of business.
So what is your worst business experience ever, Sean?
Well, that's hard hitting because there's been several,
but I would say that it was losing my first gym.
And that was because the economy hit of 2008.
It was a personal training facility and I lost everything.
I lost, I mean, I lost everything.
I lost my apartment.
I went through a divorce, no money, no credit, no anything.
Now, even though it was dire straits and I just,
it was a really rough time in my life.
It was also the best thing that happened to me
because I was able to bootstrap myself
with a bootcamp and starting all over with no money,
no credit, just being resourceful
because I didn't have any resources.
And I hired a mentor, I hired a coach
who's a dynamo in the fitness industry today.
Alex Hermosy?
So he was my second coach.
Cool, okay, go back to the first.
Alex Hermosy was my second coach,
but at this time, this was back in 2010.
Alex was starting his own gyms
probably around the same time I was at this point.
What are you gonna say?
He was still, he still had the backpack on in high school.
Yeah, right?
Yes, but Bajros Kulian, I'll give a shout out to him.
Who was that, who?
It was Bajros Kulian with FitBody Bootcamp.
So you can look up FitBody Bootcamp
and you'll come across some of his material.
But he was, it was in a franchise
because I was done with the franchise,
but it was a license agreement.
Hey, we'll teach you how to start a bootcamp.
That's where the model is going.
So I said, okay, let's go.
Here's my last, I don't know, 1500 bucks
or whatever it was at the time.
And just went all in.
And yeah, that, you know, that worst,
that worst time of my life
ended up being the best thing for me.
However, I, what brought me down kind of the depression road
was I never let go of that experience.
Because I lost that first gym,
I was in a place of, I have to outwork them all.
I have to put my head down and do work.
I have to chase this success.
I will never let this happen again.
And so my complete shift for business
turned from serving people to serving myself.
That's really when the shift happened.
Because now it was about, I have to protect mine.
I have to get mine.
I have to store mine.
Like it's all about me
and I'll never go through these dire straits again.
And so I still love the fitness industry.
I still love serving the clients.
I still love my job.
I still love that, you know, had a compassion for them.
But every time things got hard,
I would just, it would just take a little part of me again
and it would just eat me
and it would just take another part of me.
And at that time, it was all on me.
And, you know, I wasn't walking in faith at this part.
I was not worshiping God at this point.
I was not putting God first in any part of my life.
I was putting alcohol first.
I was putting party in first.
I was putting, you know, all the addictions
that were numbing my pain in a way.
So it was like, I work hard during the week
and I'd be like weekend vendors, right?
And just kind of, I don't know,
just kind of grinding through the next week.
But so I was really in this struggling place.
So like I was getting ahead
and then just kind of slipping back a little bit.
And I didn't realize it at the time,
but when I was looking back, I was like,
well, I was really self-serving.
Like I was, you know, the high highs were the highs, man.
I mean, I was living on top of the world
and I would celebrate the successes,
but it was all about me.
Look at what I'm doing.
Look at the success.
Look what I'm doing over here.
Look what I'm doing over there.
And when things started, when things would hit
and, you know, I would be getting backed up against the wall
and everybody would be looking at me.
Well, I had nowhere to run.
I had nowhere to turn
because I had made my business all about me.
I had made my success all about me.
So when times got tough, you know,
everybody's looking for me for the answers.
And when I didn't have an answer,
well, now I'm letting people down.
And now I'm feeling that imposter syndrome, right?
And now I'm feeling all the,
just like my world was just closing in
and had a choke hold on me, if you will.
And so that's when devices were just kicking even harder.
Just, I'm gonna just escape this.
And, but it was, so that road continued, man,
from 2010 all the way to 2017, January 2017.
I just looked in a mirror and I said,
am I really gonna do another year like this?
And I made the decision, no.
And that's when I tried to end it all.
And,
fortunately I was not successful.
I ended up in handcuffs at night.
And it was a Friday night.
And the arresting officer told me, he said,
well, you have two choices.
You can check yourself into the hospital
or we could take you to jail.
You'll face the judge on Monday
and he's gonna send you to the hospital anyway.
So what is it gonna be?
And dude, I had such an ego back then.
I was like, well, just take me to the hospital, man.
I'm good.
Like I had not even connected the fact
that I just tried to take my life.
And here I was just pumped up, full of pride,
full of ego, all that stuff all over again,
just the exact same person that I've been living
for darn near a decade now.
And so he takes me there
and I get checked into the hospital.
And of course they're getting me sober
because I was drunk that night.
And they're sobering me up.
They're putting all the IVs and all that stuff in me.
And then Monday morning rolls around
and that was my first time in front of a therapist.
And I'm like, hey, can I go now?
Like I'm just telling them,
hey, I gotta get back to work, this and that.
They're like, no, you need a timeout.
And I didn't know it at the time, Jack,
because I've never been in a hospital
for a situation like this,
but they knew what they were doing.
And so they are forcing me to take a timeout.
Like they were forcing me to rest.
And I kid you not,
so I don't even know if I have it in here.
I have a notebook that I had in the hospital.
I usually keep it here in my drawer,
but I wrote down this verse in a notebook.
They gave me a notebook and they gave me a pencil.
And I wrote down the verse,
come to me all who are weary and I will give you rest.
And this, okay, and I didn't know
that I didn't know where that came from.
I didn't know what the,
I knew that was a Bible scripture.
That's all I knew.
I couldn't reference it to you.
I couldn't tell you who said it.
Okay, these are the words that Jesus Christ said.
But I wrote that verse down.
And so now I'm just kind of replaying that verse
over and over and over in my head.
And things weren't really clicking in the hospital.
Like I was just trying to get out of there, right?
I'm just trying to get out.
Like help me to get out of here by Friday
was my whole thing.
And I did, I spent a weekend there.
They enabled me to rest, enabled me to decompress,
enabled me to take a lot of stress off.
I had some amazing coaches in the gym
that were running the gym while I was out.
I only confided in one of them,
what was actually going on.
And he was a strong man of God.
And so he was praying over me.
And of course, when I get out of hospital,
he's gonna need certain scripture books
and this and that.
And that's really when my journey
just back towards health began.
And I'm talking about mental health.
And so I had this scripture written down,
but I'm not back in my Bible yet.
Like it took another two years, two, three years
for me to get back into the Bible.
So I was doing all the spiritual enlightenment stuff.
I was doing all the coaching.
I was doing all the affirmations
and the reframing of the mind.
And like, I guess the Tony Robbins workshops,
stuff like that.
Cause I gotta find my purpose.
I gotta find my drive again.
I gotta find me again is what I kept telling myself.
I gotta find me, I gotta find me.
I gotta find my purpose.
I gotta find my happiness.
I gotta find my joy.
And-
Me, me, me, I hear it.
And still just me, me, me, right?
And we don't get that.
But I would get this close, right Jackson?
I'll get this close.
And then something would happen in my life.
And I would just be like, why am I struggling?
I'm yelling at Gus and I'm cursing out God.
And why would you put me in this position
and this and that?
Well, I hired a business coach.
This was after Alex.
So Alex fits in in like around 2018, 2019.
So fast forward to like 2020.
Nice, I gotta ask.
Good experience?
Yes.
With Alex, he broke my gym.
So that's a fun story.
Let's dive into that.
We can't go all used over that.
So I had this downturn in 2017 because of the hospital
and I'm trying to get myself back together.
I'm like, okay.
I'm trying to, I'm focused so much on me.
Like I'm letting business kind of slip, right?
And so I'm like, okay, we gotta do something.
We gotta get this back up.
Like we're losing numbers.
We're losing money, that kind of thing.
Like we're bleeding out.
And so Alex launches GymLaunch.
And so I'm like, okay, like let's go.
Like he's making all these big promises.
Let's do it.
So I hired Alex and dude, he delivered.
And he delivered big, okay.
Now the problem with Alex and the way that he delivered
was he broke my gym.
We didn't have the structure.
We didn't have the structure and systems in place
to handle all the new clients that were coming in.
And so we have this influx of new people coming in
and I'm trying to keep up with text messages, phone calls,
you know, the emails, like the whole nine, right?
And meanwhile, my current clients are getting pissed off
because you're like, what is going on here?
Like, what are all these new members are?
Why did they get this special deal?
And you know, yada, yada, yada.
So I'm making my current clients mad.
The ones who are falling through the cracks
because I'm not keeping up with the messages,
you know, they're getting mad at me.
I'm getting called scam artists and things like that as well.
So I'm getting bad reviews on like Google and Facebook
and things like that.
And I'm just like, whoa, like, okay, like, okay, Alex,
your systems work or, you know,
you've got me all the new leads,
but we just, we weren't ready for it.
And one of my coaches, by the way,
just walked off the floor and they're like,
I can't do this and just quit, you know, on that same day.
So I'm just like, what in the world?
Like, you know, you feel kind of like you're there.
We get that.
I get that.
When I was at Video Power Marketing,
that was one of Jake's biggest worries when I got there
was making sure that the clients who came in
were scalable.
And he did a good job of bringing on,
he did an excellent job of bringing on great clients.
I mean, he had clients like Vivint and Nordic Tracks.
So there wasn't really much of a chance
that they wouldn't be Yahoo was working with him.
Corel Draw, which competes with Adobe.
So like he had some great clients,
but I started taking these strategy session calls with him
and then for him because I had the business acumen to know
like, is this going to be a great case study or not?
Are these people ready?
And so I'd come in and refine them.
And I remember telling Dr. Eric Bird, for instance,
like, you know, I had to have,
I'll shorten the conversation, this is about you,
but his side was awful.
It was terrible.
Like, and I had to tell him and I was worried
I was going to get fired.
But here I come in and tell him,
and he takes it like a humble champ.
And he's like, I'll fix all that.
Three days later, it comes back with everything fixed
and that we saw.
He still have more to do as a business owner,
but we knew the ads were going to fall flat
if he didn't fix that portion of the infrastructure.
But what continued to worry me about all the clients
was are they building the fulfillment infrastructure
and operational infrastructure to sustain
all the leads you're bringing as well?
Because if they're not, we are breaking the gym,
as you said.
So that's really neat though, that it worked that well.
And at least got to open your eyes that,
okay, there's more to this business thing
than just attracting valuable attention.
Oh, 100%.
And this is, you know, software today is so much better
than what it was, you know, back then,
just a couple of years ago, right?
So I mean, we're duct taping all these,
like the click funnels to Zapier to, you know,
the spreadsheets, you know, all that stuff, right?
Like everything is under one roof now
with some of these software programs.
True.
So yeah, it was just like, you know,
if something went down, then your whole pipeline broke
and things like that.
So it was just a mess.
It was.
But, you know, none of it was Alex's fault
or his team's fault, like they delivered,
and they delivered great.
And if anybody wants to, wants a testimonial for them,
I say, if you are Jim, you're thinking of Jim Lodge,
do it, just go.
Don't think about it, right?
So they know their stuff.
They know what they're doing.
But yeah, so I went through this part now
where we're just ultra successful
and I'm feeling much better, you know,
I'm feeling healthier, I'm feeling mentally inclined
and things like that because I've been working on myself,
but there was still just a missing piece.
Like I still wasn't feeling fulfilled,
which was really interesting, right?
Like I have all the successes so far.
From the outside looking in, like people are like,
wow, you've got it all together, right?
Like you got a successful gym, you're looking good,
like you're much happier now, this and that,
but something was still in my heart where it was just like,
no, something's still missing and I don't get it.
So I hired a coach.
And this is where I'm gonna shift you real quick
for the sake of the structure a little bit,
but it's gonna go right into your segment,
which is what powerful lesson
and other visionaries learn from your experience.
And let's just go right into the story
because I can tell you got a coach
that gave you some powerful lesson
that helped open your perspective and mind
of where you need to go.
So let's hear it.
Yeah, this is the powerful lesson I learned.
And so this coach, and he didn't even know,
I don't think he knew what he was really asking me
when he asked me it,
or how much of an impact it was gonna have on my life
when he asked it.
But he said, do you really think
that God wants what's best for you?
And I gave him just the most generic biblical answer.
Of course, God wants what's best for me.
He's all loving, he's all powerful.
He's a God of blessings, he's a God of abundance,
he's a God of mercy.
Of course he wants what's best for me.
And so he's like, okay, great.
Like let's continue focusing on working your business
and things of that nature,
like going down that path, right?
Like just he was trying to work on my mindset
and my faith that God wants what's best for me
so I'm on the right road, right?
But I still continue to struggle.
I still continue to struggle
with some various different things in my life,
specifically to fulfillment.
And I realized, so 2020 rolls around now
and now we're ordered to shut the gym down.
And so I had this little sabbatical
and I was like, you know what?
I'm just gonna open up my Bible and start reading it.
And so that's what I did.
2020 was the blessing in disguise for me and my gym
and my whole walk back to faith.
But that one question was always in the back of my mind.
Like, what does God really want what's best for me?
And I'm looking for that in the Bible, by the way.
I'm looking for that answer in a Bible.
And then all of a sudden it hits me.
It was like as loud as thunder in my head.
It said, you're asking the wrong question.
And I'm like, I'm asking the wrong question.
What does that mean?
And I was like, okay, what is God's idea
of what's best for me?
See all along I was chasing my idea
of what I thought God's idea was what was best for me.
So finally I just stopped and I said, okay, God,
what is your idea of what's best for me?
And when I started putting that in
and I started reading scripture with that perspective,
everything changed.
Absolutely everything changed.
And that's when I really started seeing
all my sins of the past.
All the anger that I was carrying,
the attitude I was carrying, the pride that I was carrying,
the ego that I was carrying, the selfishness I was carrying.
I never realized I was carrying any of that weight before,
even through all the other stuff.
And I was like, whew,
well now my heart is being searched here.
And so I started letting that stuff go.
And my mantra at that time became let go, let God.
Like, all right, I'm just gonna start letting this stuff go.
Like if you're telling me to let this stuff go
and you're gonna fulfill on your promises,
then I'm gonna kind of challenge you on this, right?
And so that's what I started doing.
And what I started reading the Bible for
was just, I wasn't really seeking answers,
although I was, but I was seeking answers
by looking for things to do
and looking for things not to do.
If the Bible said, do this, I started doing it.
If the Bible says, stay away from that,
then I started staying away from it.
And let me tell you,
because I started making that shift
and because I started reframing
from the biblical standpoint of God,
God doesn't break any promises.
Like the God I serve is the same yesterday
as he is today as he always will be.
So when I talk about Bible business practices,
like a lot of Christians will claim they know Jesus Christ,
they know he's the son of God.
He died on a cross three days later,
he came up and forgave his first sins.
Like they will buy into that story
and they will claim that to be the absolute truth.
However, when you see a Bible passage that says,
don't forget the Lord thy God
who gives you the ability to produce wealth,
but they think, oh no, that's prosperity gospel.
You can't quote that scripture,
although it's written right there in Deuteronomy 8.18.
And so I'm like, no,
if you're gonna accept that Jesus Christ
is your Lord and savior is the truth,
then you need to accept that every word written in this Bible,
black and white and sometimes red is the absolute truth.
This is the truth.
This is what's written.
These are God's promises.
And so I just started taking that as,
this is God's written word.
If he says it's so, then I'm going to,
then I'm gonna cling onto it.
And it's changed everything for me.
It's changed my perspective.
It's changed my outlook.
It has changed the way I do things.
It's changed the way that I feel about myself
and my calling.
No longer is it all about me anymore.
It's all about who.
It's all about who I am because of whose I am
and my assignment to serve.
Who are the people that I'm here to serve?
And I don't know if you have another question,
but I do have a work to do.
I'll share with you a very powerful story
or a testimonial here in a second.
But I just want to kind of rest there.
It's a good idea.
Before you do, Sean,
you covered quite a lot of ground there.
So one of the, you had a pinnacle experience
that I'd love for you to repeat in just a few words.
And that was a shift that you made
in the way that you were praying.
You shifted from the abilities,
from praying about what does he want you to do
to what one more time?
Yeah, it was more about, instead of praying like,
God, what is it, does God want what's best for me?
Well, what is your idea of what's best for me?
That was the shift.
You're looking for his will.
I was looking for his will.
And there are two prayers in the Bible, by the way.
There are two prayers that you can find these.
One is referenced as the Lord's Prayer,
like a lot of people know.
What does it say right there?
Thy kingdom come, thy will be done.
It's right in there.
And then King Solomon understood this as well
when he prayed, they said, you have given your servant
a vast assignment, far too many people
to rule over the kingdom.
I don't know how to do this.
So give your servant a discerning heart.
Give them the wisdom to lead the kingdom.
He didn't ask for wealth.
He didn't ask for glory.
He didn't ask for fame.
He didn't ask for anything of himself.
He didn't even ask for his enemies to be killed,
even though they were in the middle of battles, right?
But God-
You might look for an opportunity to do that,
to go into the depths of that a little bit further.
But first we're gonna go back to a question
about your best experience in business.
And we'll come back to this if we have time.
But I would love to know what,
and the reason why too, Sean,
is because we're gonna have a little bit of time, hopefully,
just to have a little bit of a good, healthy Christian debate.
Okay, sure.
And I think that will help everybody who's listening
and the two of us as well as brothers.
So what's your best experience been in business so far?
There are so many.
I would say it's today.
My best business experience is right now today.
God has given me so many blessings right now.
It's not necessarily monetary blessings, but it's the impact.
It's the people that he's brought me into my life.
It's having opportunities like this to be on your show.
It's this.
It's really-
Jaime, do me a favor.
Pull up Sean's YouTube channel again
and just kind of let that feed
while he's talking about this,
because that represents today
and some of the things that are going on there.
And you've got right now, let's take a look.
Scroll up a little bit for me.
Let's see, website there.
Perfect.
And you got a couple hundred subscribers on there
already as well.
And you got a lot of great thumbnails,
which is you're studying the right things,
you're doing the right things and moving that.
So that momentum is going to continue to build
as you continue to dedicate yourself to it.
But go ahead, Sean, I didn't mean to interrupt you.
I just want to make sure that this
might as well get reflected while we're talking.
No, that's great.
That's great.
Thank you for pulling up the YouTube.
I've just really started paying attention to YouTube,
really in the past month.
Now I've had the YouTube channel for a couple of years now,
but it was just kind of like upload a video,
put a thumbnail on it and let it do its thing.
But now I've been more intentional behind it here recently.
But my main drive has been all on Facebook,
believe it or not.
And so with my Facebook profile, here's what happened.
So in 2022, I just knew it was still last year doing the gym.
I still wasn't fulfilled with the gym anymore.
Like the gym was a gym, right?
And so we have one year left on the lease.
I'm like, I'm pretty sure this is going to be my last year.
So I just made a decision, this is going to be my last year.
So December of last year, I decided to close the gym.
And I went all in on Facebook and just sharing the word.
And in December of last year, we shut the gym down,
I go all in on Facebook.
And at that time I had 2000 followers.
Now we're talking December of 2022.
Today we're serving over 160,000 people on my Facebook wall.
Wow.
And we're doing live broadcast, we're doing the reels,
we're doing all your different posts, right?
But it's just serving God.
And the way that I'm serving God is by serving the people.
And I did King Solomon's Prayer.
I was like, OK, God, we're shutting down the gym.
And now it's time for me to serve you.
So put the people in front of me that you would have me to serve.
And give me the wisdom, give me the courage,
give me the guidance that you would have me go so that I
can serve these men and women that are
going to be put into my life.
And he did that.
He gave me the platform.
And he did it almost overnight.
I mean, in 28 days, we picked up almost, I don't know,
half of that following, right?
Maybe more.
So it was.
2022 to 2023, 2,000 to what I guess
close to 100,000 to 80,000 people.
Do you mind sharing a little bit about some of the strategies
that you went through to do that?
It was reels.
I did.
I just started doing the reels, the short form content, right?
The short form video.
And I shot one video.
It was five.
This is a funny story.
It was five business or five business.
I'm sorry.
Five Bible verses to help you grow your business.
That was the title of the video.
And when I'm shooting it, I didn't know this,
but I was going to sick with COVID.
So my room is dark.
I'm very low.
I'm low tone.
There's no energy behind the video.
But whatsoever, whatever.
I shoot the video.
I put the phone down.
I'm like, OK, I did whatever.
Well, the next day, I'm literally sick.
I'm sick with COVID.
And it's so bad that I can't even open up my eyes.
The glare from the phone is blinding me
and giving me a headache.
So I'm like, oh my gosh.
So here I am.
I'm like, I'm having a pity party.
I'm like, I just shut down my gym.
And I got to do work.
And I'm trying to do work and blah, blah, blah, blah.
I'm having this pity party.
Literally, I know that one video is
going viral in the background.
And in one day, it picked up 30,000 followers in one day.
Jeez.
And it's five Bible verses.
And all I did was pick five of my favorite scriptures
and read them straight out of the Bible.
That's all I did.
There was no fancy.
That's it.
Wow.
Legit.
And so that's why I tell people one video can really
launch your business.
It really can.
And yeah.
So but any rate, yeah, that's it.
That's the video right there.
So well, that's not actually the right one
because that is the re- I redid it.
I re-posted it.
So it's further down my wall.
But it's got like, I don't know, 10 million.
Today, it has 10 million views.
The original has over 10 million views.
So that's what launched me.
And so then it was just reconfirmation.
I was like, OK, God, I got it.
Like, this is what I'm here to do.
Got it.
I'm in.
I'm all in now.
And that's what I was able to do.
And so just again, come from that servant part
and just saying, OK, God, I'm going to submit to your will.
I'm going to submit to your way.
Have me just serve the people to the highest capacity
that you would have me serve them.
I'm all in.
And that's what it's been about ever since December
of last year.
And because of it, I've had numerous opportunities
to come into other coaching programs
and teach them how to create these reels.
Because now my reels are all flashy
and all the captions and the fun stuff.
We have a lot of fun with them.
So I'm teaching other coaching programs how they can do it.
And I really enjoyed what you said earlier,
where you said great content is king, which absolutely it is.
Like, everybody will say content is king.
No, you have to get your messaging right.
You have to get your communication skills down.
You got to be able to connect with your audience.
And one way of doing that is being authentic.
I think a lot of people try to copy other people.
Like, something's working for them,
so I'm just going to copy them.
And I'll do the exact same thing.
And then it doesn't work for them.
And they can't figure out why.
It's because it's not your assignment.
We all have our own assignment.
And as somebody that I've come to this realization is that I
don't have competition.
And the reason I don't have competition
is because nobody can be me.
There's only one me out there.
It's like, I'm not your competition.
You're not my competition.
There's only one Jackson.
And so you were, this is your assignment
to have these podcasts to bring people like me on here.
This is your assignment.
That's why you're so good at it.
That's why you have such a success here.
And so I think if we can just reshift our mindsets to that,
that we don't really have, we don't
need to be in competition with one another,
but rather if we enter collaboration with one another.
Now we're helping each other build.
Now we're helping each other grow.
Now we're supportive with one another.
Because like we talked about earlier, business is hard.
And you don't have to do it alone.
So collaboration is just a way to go.
So yeah.
I agree with that.
And it's interesting.
The person I compete with is myself.
And at the same time, a lot of people do that.
And I would say in an unhealthy fashion.
But it's just about being my best self each day.
I learned that from watching LeBron James for years.
And it finally clicking as I'm running around the track
and had this thought.
I was wanting to give up in the last lap because I was tired.
And nobody's there.
It was the middle of the night.
And I realized, I just go into my head,
what would LeBron James do?
It's also me, what would Jesus do?
And bam, I was like, he'd hit it.
He would break his own record.
And I hit it.
And I ran to the last lap.
I ran an extra 25 yards after or so.
And I was like, oh, that's what it feels like to be LeBron James.
Dude, that's biblical.
I mean, if you look at it, dude, if you
look at the great people in the Bible,
and there's great stories, just talk about Joseph
real quick, right?
It took him 17 years to fulfill his dream.
And his brothers sold him to slavery.
And then he was thrown into prison.
But then he became second to Pharaoh.
But it took him 17 years to go through that.
Well, why was he able to be put in that position?
It was because of his character.
It's because he knew who he was, because of whose he was.
And he just kept on leaning on God.
He was staying faithful the entire time.
And he always was willing to become the savage servant
no matter what position he was.
And that's why he was put in charge of Potiphar's house.
That's why he was put in charge of the prison.
And that's why he was put second in charge of Egypt.
It's because he was will.
It's because of his character.
And always just saying, OK, all right, well, I'm in prison.
But I'm going to make the best of my situation.
Keep that screen up, Jaime, real quick.
So we didn't have a lot of time to talk about.
But of course, Sean Murphy is not going anywhere.
He's going to be around for a long time and helping out.
And he's got this Free Life Foundation coming out.
And so if what he has shared today resonates with you,
and if this biblical kick aligns with what
you're looking for in life, and you align those principles,
and how he's delivering them, then as it says,
demystifying biblical business wisdom
to empower the modern, God-focused entrepreneur,
there's ways that all aspects of life, in my opinion, do align.
And it's not about you following my opinion.
It's not about you following Sean's opinion.
It's about discovering that for yourself.
If you see the opportunity there, then do it.
I will share one final scripture from my side, Romans 8.28,
which says, and we know that all things work together for good
to them that love God, them who are called
according to His purpose.
And what that ultimately means is, yeah,
everything I experience, good, bad, or ugly,
the storms I've been through, the trials that I've had,
the adversities that I've had, I know for myself
that every single one of those is a blessing,
that I may not be able to recognize it,
may not be able to appreciate it in the moment of the time.
It may make me cry.
It may make me angry.
It may make me confused.
But I do know that all those experiences
are designed to help me become the best version of myself
for others.
And ultimately, that's what I hear Sean
guiding people towards.
And those principles, when you live a life based
on principles, visionaries, it's going
to be very hard for anything to come around and knock you
off your feet and derail you from your purpose.
So Sean, thanks for blessing us with that today,
for bringing your vision to the show.
And guys, you heard it.
Reach out to him on Facebook.
He's got some viral content on there
you'll probably greatly enjoy.
And don't hesitate to reach out to him.
Sean, anything you'd like to say before we wrap up?
If I could just close out with reading a little scripture
just to take like two minutes, is that good?
This will really help anybody out
if you're going through a hard time right now.
This has come from James chapter 1, starting with verse 2.
Consider it pure joy, my brothers,
whenever you face trials of many kinds,
because you know that the testing of your faith
develops perseverance.
Perseverance must finish its work
so that you may become mature and complete,
not lacking anything.
And so if you're going through a hard time,
know that this is, everything comes out for the better
for God's will and his purpose,
just like you just said there, Jackson.
But, you know, Rick Flair used to say,
to be the man you got to beat the man, right?
Well, I say to be the man, you got to become the man.
And this is way God ensures that you become the man
and become the character to bring the blessings upon.
So.
Well said.
My friends, any of you that feel like some of this
went over your head today,
or doesn't hit your heart the same way
that it does Sean's or mine,
my challenge to you is to think of it
like learning a new language.
The more languages that you learn
to communicate better with those around you,
the more well-rounded and developed you will be
to position yourself as a leader in this world
to ultimately help others.
That's what it's all about.
So have a great weekend, Vision Pros.
Thanks for signing in today
and we will see you in the next show.
Awesome, thank you.
Thank you for being here today.
I'm really happy that you tuned in to Vision Pros Live.
I'm looking forward to seeing your reactions
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This is gonna get more and more fun.
We'll have more and more engagement as well.
We'll invite people to participate in the show.
And thank you for giving us your time and attention.
Have an excellent time building out your vision
and be careful.