Where are you at?
Just south of Manila.
Second biggest city is Cebu.
OK.
Is that where you're at?
I had a good week.
Yeah, I just came from a yoga retreat, actually,
this weekend, which is a big first for me, but a lot of fun.
OK.
That's awesome, man.
And ready to conquer the AI world?
Yes, sir.
Awesome.
Good.
I think I'm going to ask you a question.
Welcome in to Vision Pros Live.
I'm Jackson Calame.
I'm your show host.
We'll be doing interviews for visionary entrepreneurs
and guest leaders who are building
fantastic visions out there.
All right.
What's up, Vision Pros?
My name is Jackson Calame.
I'm your host.
I am the founder and CEO of First Class Business.
And I'm so excited to have Garik Tate on today.
Seems like a young man.
He looks very young.
He might be a little bit older than I may be thinking
due to the amount of wisdom that he has and experience
and investing and AI and helping the world understand
AI running companies in the Philippines and beyond.
It'll be really interesting to get
to know his story and background even further as we
dive into the depths of artificial intelligence.
And we might dive into other topics, too,
based on his vision.
So fun to learn from people who started their visions
super young and have dedicated a lot of time
to building those up.
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So without further ado, let's bring on our AI genius
and Garick Tate, thank you so much for joining me today.
How you doing, buddy?
I'm doing well, glad to be here, Jackson.
I appreciate it, man.
You make a big sacrifice to get up for the world
and be ready for a show at 6 AM in the Philippines.
What's it like to live in the Philippines?
You've been there for 10 years now, right?
Yeah, I moved here when I was 18.
So I feel like partially just it's a new normal, right?
But it's a really amazing culture here
that the people are just ridiculously nice.
The infrastructure outside Manila
has also improved since coming here.
It's easier to get access to really good remote setups
and work from home setups and such.
But yeah, the culture is really unique.
And the people here work really hard.
They also really love having fun.
It's just a really great place to settle down.
Dude, that's really cool.
I'm glad you brought that up
because if you worked with the development world,
let's say you took a sabbatical from that
over the last several years,
you decided you weren't hiring on Fiverr
and up working elsewhere and you brought things back.
Well, infrastructure changes dramatically
over that type of a timeframe.
I remember when I was in Uruguay,
it was 2009 when I left.
Around 2007 and a half, 2008,
these kids all received these green little laptops.
Yeah, one laptop per child.
Is that what it was?
Yeah, little green laptops.
That was a charity that I actually,
yeah, I'm a huge fan of that charity.
It's really incredible.
Cool, that's awesome.
Well, now I know the name of it.
We had no ideas, just missionaries,
like how the situation worked out.
But we were really impressed that even though
the country had had a certain set of poverty standards
or realities, all of the communities had Wi-Fi
in their plaza.
And I had never seen that in the United States
at that point.
So I was like, whoa, they got community Wi-Fi here.
This is crazy.
And these kids all have laptops to help them
with their education and stuff.
But I haven't been to Uruguay in 14 years now
and the advancements of infrastructure.
I can only imagine what has occurred over that time.
And you're right, that does make it more accessible
to live remotely and work with more conveniences
that you take for granted when you do leave your country
for the first time.
Yeah, the place I'm standing at here is,
it's called IT Park in Cebu.
And there's a very good chance if you're listening
to this episode, if you've called customer support
and if it wasn't an Indian accent,
that you're probably talking to someone
who's within one block of where I'm at.
This whole place used to be an airport actually,
like a little bit more than 10 years ago,
but it's really been exploding how much infrastructure
has been built out in such a short period of time.
Dude, that's awesome.
And for those of you who have the wanderlust,
you wanna go travel, you wanna be different places,
it can be very helpful to have a mentor and friends
such as Garrick who's been there and done that
and been working on expanding his vision
to understand more of the world
as you get ready to expand your own.
So Garrick, let's talk about that.
Let's dive right into your vision.
So in 30 seconds, what's your vision
for those that you serve?
My vision is to accelerate humanity's advancement
towards abundance using artificial intelligence,
ultra clarity with the use of assets
and assemble dream teams.
All of that comes together to help entrepreneurs
unshackle themselves and empower themselves
to start new ventures to have and drive impactful change.
Wow, that's awesome.
Okay, very good.
So it's not just the idea of robots
as much as it is the idea of robotic technologies
helping out humanity with humane things,
things that have to do with bringing us together
as teams you mentioned.
Talk to me about team building.
Yeah, so team building for me boils down
to just a hero's journey.
So it's a storytelling method.
I think a lot of people listening,
I'm sure you've heard like this hero with a thousand faces
and the hero's journey, people like Carl Jung and such.
I think that we are always part of a story.
There's a great Carl Jung quote I love of like,
we are dreaming even when we're awake,
we're dreaming all the time.
And I think there's a lot of truth to that
when you see how the brain fires.
We wanna be part of a story that matters,
we wanna be a part of a story that empowers us.
So I think a big part of team building is to,
especially as a leader, to be making sure
that all the members of your team are telling themselves
the same story, they're telling each other the same story
and it's a story that they have a place in
where they're gonna make an impact on that,
they're going to be impacted by it as well,
and that they can all really get behind.
And that comes to how you praise their work
and also how you give them critical feedback.
But you always have to be making sure
all that feedback is coming from that frame of,
this is where we're going, this is our steps towards there.
So it all boils down to that frame,
I try to keep that in mind.
Brother, I'm with you on that.
In fact, I really liked that quote,
I had to write it down.
We all wanna be part of a story that matters.
And it's funny because I was listening to Jordan Peterson
about three months ago and he said,
people want to be left alone.
And I was like, what, who are you talking about?
You're not talking about me.
But my maturity of finally crossing the years
of realizing life can be painful and difficult too,
I realized like, well, there's a lot of truth to this
probably for certain people out there.
And I realized, wow, this is actually smart advice,
but I'm sure you're also familiar with similar concepts,
that people wanna have community,
they wanna be left alone, they wanna dream
and be part of a story that matters.
How does a phrase like yours,
we wanna be part of a story that matters,
correlate and coexist with the thought process
that people also wanna be left alone,
or is there a contrast in the perspectives?
That's a great question.
I think that people,
I believe I've heard Jordan also say things
like that, I've often heard him say it
in the context of government oversight or of...
I'll give you context on what I heard it from.
So when he was talking about-
Hi guys, I'm Will, co-founder of NC and New Campus.
What's up, Will?
Yeah, a little bit of a video coming on soon.
Okay, so he was talking about survival
and how when you, the fish that swims on the edge
of the pack is the one that gets eaten
versus the bigger fish are usually in the middle
of the school of fish and the zebra that is the outlier,
the same thing ends up being attacked.
So he was talking a little bit about government,
but I think he was talking about some truth regarding that.
And maybe there's just different elements of people
that want to be known and be out there.
Maybe there are people who don't kind of like A type
and then what they call it, A type personalities.
I think A type is very driven.
Like you can't just like leave alone.
You have to be driving towards something.
But I think I follow where that's coming from now.
I think that even then they're part of a story.
And if you are assembling a team where that team
is assembled for a particular mission statement,
then the people who want to be left alone can,
you know, that culture might not be right for them.
Now the answer also could be that the culture
is perfect for them if they see
that it furthers their own goals.
So they have to be there for their own reasons.
There have been quite a few people who have come
and gone from my teams who, you know,
they said on the day of the interview,
you know, I'm here because I want to start my own company.
And I think that being here and learning from you guys
is gonna be the way that I do it.
And to that I say, fucking come on board.
And, you know, we put, you know, them into that position
where they can learn what they need to learn.
And very often like their personalities naturally
are going to be a little more independent,
but you can absolutely work with that.
They're still gonna be part of the story
that they're gonna get what they need
and where everyone else is gonna get what they need as well.
So for those of you who caught the Jedi mind trick,
Garrick probably did as well.
And that is, Garrick, we've learned about Garrick
that as a leader, he has the ability to make space
from multiple perspectives versus somebody who felt
like the juxtaposition that I created
between Jordan Peterson and himself,
some people would feel inferior in that environment
and feel like I just created a problem, you know,
or a concern or something to feel like, oh man,
is he saying I'm wrong?
And it takes that type of awareness for a leader
to guide teams that are going to scale.
So I have a lot of respect for your capacity
to navigate those waters.
Garrick, thanks for doing that with me.
With that said, for the visionary pros who are listening,
for those who have skillsets, they wanna expand,
legacies they wanna build, you know,
who should be listening,
why should they be listening to you today?
And what do you think they're gonna get out of today's show?
That's a great question.
Yeah, one of the first concepts I got
on my own entrepreneurial journey was the idea of like,
who do you listen to?
And, you know, you should listen to people
who have what you want and have been where you are.
So I wanna see if I can put myself
in that mental gymnastic here.
So I'd say where our superpower comes from
and a little bit of what we've been doing,
currently we have three separate companies in the Philippines
from publishing, outsourcing, software development.
And across all three have implemented AI
in different capacities.
We think that AI is, and I say we,
because it's not just a lone show with myself,
also myself and my business partners.
Other three of us, I probably tend a little more
towards the technical and towards operations.
But we've implemented AI across all three companies
from marketing to operations, recruitment,
whole bunch of different areas.
And if I'd say to your listeners,
if you are thinking about either starting new ventures
or are currently in the middle of a venture
and thinking about how do I drive the adoption of AI
into my culture?
How do I add AI automations, scripts or other things?
Can I be looking for examples of how to add it
in this space or that space?
I'd say that all of those are in my wheelhouse, so to speak.
Was anything there that I would expand on?
I think that there's probably a lot more I could dig into.
I'll dive in for you on that and just kind of guide you
through that process.
So I think one of the concerns that I wish business owners
faced reality with and kind of internalized more
because it would actually be less scary
and more eye-opening if they realize that one,
if they don't get ahead of the AI curve,
companies like Google and Facebook and Tesla and beyond
will eat their lunch money.
Like that's going to happen.
And at the same time, if they take the opportunity
to learn about it and understand it
and don't just keep their head in the sand,
hoping that this will go away,
then they're just learning how to adopt the good
that exists in the resource.
Their future could be very prosperous.
Am I full of crap or am I right, Eric?
You're welcome to call me out either way.
I think you're very right.
I think that there's a lot of wisdom in the point
that you're not going to be replaced by AI.
You're going to be replaced by someone else who's using AI
to make themselves 10 times more effective.
And-
Well said.
I don't believe that AI is going to massively
reduce the employment rate or things like that.
We can dig into a little more why,
because I think there's a few important factors
left out of that conversation.
And so if we put that narrative,
that story off to the side
and then just look at AI, what it is, it's a new tool.
And we've been here before.
You just inspired it.
You just inspired, I was like,
the meeting when you said that, I was like, Paul Bunyan.
I was like, there's a story, the lumberjack.
And you've got the guy who can cut trees down as fast
as he can with an ax, but you've got somebody
that comes along with a chainsaw.
Are there any less lumberjacks in the world?
No.
But are they more effective at what they do?
Absolutely.
That same revolution is underway with AI.
Yeah, and there's many examples in history
of when output get increased.
So supply, the supply side of the curve increased.
Demand shot up with it because the constraint
was never on the demand side.
It was on the supply side.
We just thought that we didn't need more output.
And there's loads of examples of that
in knowledge work actually as well.
I'll give you one example.
When we released the ATM, about 80% of time
of the time of bank clerks was spent just doing work
that the ATM automated.
So when the ATM got rolled out to all bank locations,
people were scared that their jobs were gonna be taken away.
And you would think very logically
it would decrease by 80% because 80% of their time
had just like, and sweep aside,
you could literally do the same amount of work
with one fifth of people.
It was just the math.
But in fact, the opposite happened.
Bank jobs didn't go down or bank teller jobs didn't go down.
They went up because what the banks did
is they started opening up more locations.
So there was a constraint there that we didn't even realize
that it got unlocked.
I think Sam Altman says,
there's been a variety of times in history
where a resource becomes 1000 times cheaper,
and then we wanna spend 1000 times more on it.
And right now with AI,
we are going through that revolution with intelligence.
Before it was with electricity,
when electricity became 1000 times cheaper,
and we want 1000 times more,
similar things are happening now.
Wow, that's profound.
And that's well said.
If I were listening to this right now,
I'd literally pause and go back 30 seconds
and listen to what you just said
probably two or three more times just to get into memory.
Alas, I have to continue the show.
But that was really, really powerful.
So if you're listening in, appreciate what
Garret just threw down.
Garret, what's your own personal vision in 15 seconds?
What do you want out of your life
over the next three, five, 10, 20 years?
I'm personally very inspired by some of the things
you got, you got definitely be very picky with this.
You don't wanna take anyone's life whole cloth.
It's definitely not this person's.
But I'm really inspired by a lot of things
that Tim Ferriss has done of just kind of maximizing himself,
collecting a lot of experiences.
And I think that there's seasons in life.
And right now going more towards that season
than probably five years from now,
more focused on starting a family
and then from there just continuing the circuit.
But that's a big hero of mine.
Selectively.
That's cool, man.
Well, I see exactly why you put the context on it.
I know exactly what you mean.
And Tim Ferriss has absolutely been an icon,
a lighthouse for me as well.
I'm making sure that I follow the NR policies,
the new rich, right?
Of creating balance.
And I was already a stay at home dad
from day one at 21 years old, which made me an outlier.
And I'm there being dad, being entrepreneur,
working from home, in an environment in the world
where that wasn't very common.
And it was three years after that,
that I came across the book, The Four-Hour Workweek.
And I was like, hey, cool.
This validates my life.
I don't feel so alone and strange anymore.
And then, yes, there are lots of things
that he's experimented and tried
that some people consider very dark, very dangerous,
very off color.
But we're all human beings, right?
We all have our good, bad, dark, ugly sides.
So I see what you're saying,
but the virtues and the principles
that he's put out there in life,
they are extremely commendable, in my opinion.
And I'm glad you bring his name up.
Everybody that we're talking about,
hi, may I help, goes in the show now.
It's Jordan Peterson, Tim Ferriss, et cetera.
Cause people, and this, what was it, Sam?
Is that the quote that I was mesmerized by?
Sam Altman is the founder of OpenAI.
Yeah.
Oh, that guy.
Yeah, he's kind of well known at this point in life,
what he's done.
All right, let's take another big shift.
Let's go right into what is your worst business experience
ever?
There was a time about,
gosh, when was that?
That was about seven and a half years ago.
We had grown pretty fast.
We had gone from about 10 employees up to about 25.
Now we've blown past that.
But at that time, you know,
that was a pretty big doubling of the penny.
And we had hired a bad actor
who we realized had actually in her previous company
had also kind of blown up the company
by creating a really toxic place,
a lot of gossip and a lot of kind of us versus them.
And the phrase of like one bad apple can ruin the bunch.
What's happening?
Yeah.
That's for sure, Mike.
Definitely, definitely really changed big parts of the culture.
He's laughing in the background.
I'm like, I'm not gonna name him, but we've had one.
Yeah, yeah, you got that person.
And so we had to go through a pretty big shift
and ended up, you know,
letting a lot of people go making a really big,
like a hard reset.
And actually during that time,
we decided to also fly out to Taiwan for about a week
just to kind of like get the leadership team,
get our heads screwed back on
and just kind of make it a little more of a hard reset.
That was a very, very hard time.
Early on, we only had one business, now we have three.
So there's a lot less stability
and just a very fear of the unknown.
No, actually it wasn't Taiwan.
No, actually it was Hong Kong.
I don't know why I said Taiwan,
but that was a looking back on it, very, very fond,
a lot of good experiences,
but going through it, really, really rough time.
It reminds me of some of the beginning retreats
that go about in a book called
The Five Dysfunctions of a Team.
Have you read that book?
No, it's on my reading list to read this year,
but I haven't read it.
There's two books I regret not reading sooner
when I had the chance, that one and the E-Myth.
Read a lot of books on time, those two I passed up
and I wish I could go back in time
and read it right when I came across my desk.
So you'll really appreciate it with what you went through.
You'll be like, oh my gosh,
we did what we were supposed to.
It's gonna validate what you guys did in a big way.
So I'm curious, use a quote as well, us versus them.
Have you read the book, Tribal Leadership?
I have not, no.
Okay, you're living by a lot of those principles
as well then, that's cool.
So then where do you get your knowledge?
You've referenced several people.
You've referenced, I can tell too,
that you're good at following principles.
Like your quote you said,
follow people who have what you want
and who have been where you've been.
Well, what drove about these,
what's the powerful lesson visionaries can learn?
Who have you been learning from?
Where do you soak in this knowledge?
The people who I think everyone can learn from.
Let me actually take a step back here and say that.
Yeah, please.
I think that clear thinkers are worth their weight in gold.
It's in many ways better to learn from a clear thinker
than it is to learn from someone who's smart.
When you're smart,
that just means you can process data a little bit faster.
You just have a CPU cycle.
That's super valuable.
And it's worth exercising your body
and getting your nutrition right.
But that's just mental horsepower.
There's not really much to it.
You can race down a very bad track very fast
if you're smart and make a lot of dumb decisions.
Being a clear thinker for me means
that you are taking in the broader context.
You're not being clouded by your own thoughts
in front of you and you're seeing things
as clearly as you can.
And then you're extracting the principles from it.
Some of the clear thinkers that I would call my mentors
for your own mind, Tony Robbins,
he's not as famous now as he was before
because he doesn't want to.
No, no, I would say he doesn't dominate
as much as he did before, only because he doesn't want to.
He just has other stuff going on,
but he's the OG, like 1000%.
And if he wanted to be the only name that people
in my demographic were talking about,
he could just keep on doing that content cycle
like the new Tom Billiou and Alex Hermosys
and he would still be on top.
He just has decided to diversify, right?
Which is good on him.
But his stuff's incredible.
Ray Dalio, I think a lot of his thinking similar.
I also think Jordan Peterson for a lot of young people
has a lot of wisdom.
He's very controversial in some things
for his political views.
But I think that for the physics,
to articulate the physics of being human as an individual
and how to like get your shit together,
be able to put forward an articulated vision,
there's few people that can match him.
And so I think a lot of young people
that are in maybe dark places
can extract a lot of gold from there,
even if you don't have to take them whole cloth.
And then of course, yeah, Tim Ferriss,
those would be some of the top people.
Nice, so you have a very disciplined filter about you
that has allowed you to focus on who to listen to
and that's cool.
Are you a fan of Iron Man or are you not?
I have to ask that because you have a lot of mannerisms
that remind me of Robert Downey Jr.
especially when he plays Tony Stark.
I am a big fan of Iron Man.
Yeah, he's definitely my favorite superhero.
If somebody goes back and watches this
and compares the way that your eyes move as you think
and between that and the goatee,
I think that's down with it too.
But that element of genius and charisma with your genius,
it correlates.
It was fun to watch.
And that's one that I look at is Robert Downey Jr.
He's one I would add to my list of very similar people.
So anyway, I had to-
Let's keep putting feathers in then.
What's your best experience in business?
There was a startup in Singapore in the education space
who we really believed in.
And they were in education.
Our company, Valhalla.Team specializes in
education, our company Valhalla.Team specializes.
Now we've kind of broadened beyond this point,
but a big part of our brand is that we want to support
purpose-driven companies, companies that are trying
to make an impact in the world for good.
And education is definitely a small hinge
that swings big doors.
I think that it's pretty hard to argue that.
And so this education edutek startup in Singapore,
and we really believed in them.
We really believed in their founders.
They were going through an investment round
and we decided to take a gamble for about eight months
without being paid.
And about eight months in,
they got the investment round closed
and then just big fucking pile of cash.
And it was just such a big like, we believed in you,
you believed in us, we did this, we nailed it.
And it was definitely something we would only
very selectively repeat.
But as far as just like a really good day to have a big lump
hit in the bank account while supporting people who needed it,
doing good things, just everything came together
in a really, really nice way.
Dude, you nailed it.
I mean, that's Alex Ramosi's grand slam off or a situation,
where when you take big bets and you put yourself out,
you might have to swing the bat 20 times
and you strike out 20 times.
But it sounds like in this case,
you may not have had the need to do that,
but it was worth it because in the end,
you got that massive payoff.
And a lot of that has to do with y'all's discipline
of not giving up.
I mean, how easy would it have been to give up on day 30
or to give up on day 90 or to lose faith at six months in
to be rude and blame them seven months in.
Did any opportunities like that come up
that you guys decided, was there anything like that
that occurred where other entrepreneurs can be reminded
to have faith or call people out?
Or what did it take to make that successful?
One of the themes of today's talk has been like mentors
and people to learn from.
So I'll quote Seth Godin.
I think that his book, The Dip is the best book
for thinking about when to push on and when to give up.
Bar none.
I really struggled for the longest time of like,
what is the rule of thumb or the mental heuristic
or the deep, I always think about things in default.
Like what's the default principle?
You can have derivatives of it, but what's like the default,
what does it take to be a good person?
And that's how my brain chews through things.
And so this idea of when do you give up
has really bugged me.
How to like simplify, make it so simple,
the truth you can just hold in your hand
and there it is.
I feel like hopefully I've done that in other areas
of my life, but couldn't find this one.
And the answer is that like that is your job.
Like you can learn how to do just about anything
and then turn your brain off and just run that
as a subroutine.
But the decision of when to quit has to be your neocortex.
That part will never be in the back of the brain
unlike so many other habits and decisions.
That has to be something that you do
on a case by case basis.
And you have to fully own it.
I really believe that.
What goes along with that is some of the principles
to guide your way through it.
I think that there is a lot of wisdom in,
you wanna avoid the sunk cost fallacy.
You wanna look at things as if,
do the mental reset of what if my brain was in a jar?
Like what if I just woke up in a simulation
and today was day one and there was no actual past
or all this installed memories.
Would I have right now in front of me an asset
where it's like, oh, I already have a gold mine
in front of me.
I just have one more foot to carve through
because I've already carved through 200 feet to get here.
So am I like, I'm amazed I've got gold mine
where 200 feet I've already carved through.
Is this an asset or is it like, oh no,
I have some dirt in front of me
that someone else has carved 200 feet doing nothing.
Now, of course the answer is you don't know which one
but you can also know that I think there is a disposition
of people based on the neuroticism to interpret unknown data
in a negative or a positive light
and knowing if you naturally are a little more neurotic
and that's just the clinical definition
that I don't wanna do the baggage along with it
because actually I love hiring neurotic people
because they're scared things are gonna go wrong
before they go wrong and then they fix it.
It's incredible.
So like a lot, like I'm a huge fan of that trait.
In fact, I would actually say that I have it more
than most entrepreneurs.
My business partners are like, nah, it's fine.
We're gonna wing it.
But I'm like, but so I definitely think it's super power
but you wanna interpret.
Malcolm Gladwell calls it the Holy fool
in one of his books, very crazy dark book.
I think you would enjoy it.
I think you would really, really get a lot out of it
as well.
What's the book name?
It's called Talking with Strangers
and I thought it was a self-development book.
It's not, but the amount of history and truth
that is revealed that is just kind of scary and awkward
is like, it's a really important read for world leaders.
And so I would definitely check it out.
The Holy fool is a person in society who,
yeah, like they end up becoming hermits in life usually
because they get obsessed with the idea
of something happening, but they're the types of people
who predict the 9-11 events are gonna happen in the world.
They're the ones who were skeptical enough
to see the effects of what could be happening
under the surface of something at play.
Black swan detectors by being pessimistic
as they are interesting.
Exactly and so these things all overlap.
They're traits that we all,
I think we all possess them within ourselves to some degree
but it's which ones do you cultivate?
I know within yourself,
what do you gravitate towards and wanna be like?
And so thank you.
I'm sorry to steal your path here, but.
No, no, no.
I was like, cool, this is how I associate
and relate to exactly what you're talking about.
There's a great need for balance of appreciation.
And I think Ray Dalio is someone
who has made better decisions than most of the investment
is theoretically just a way to keep track
of your decision-making, right?
So investors often are very clear thinkers.
They have to be.
And while Ray Dalio at this point, truthfully,
he just has a lot of computer algorithms
that they've designed and like he has a lot
of infrastructure beyond what most people have.
His fundamentals is just get more people's brains
on the right decisions.
And so like, if you're wondering to give up,
huge part is just to talk with other people, triangulate,
because you might be a little more neurotic
or less neurotic, and you might wanna talk with people
who are more or less optimistic or just have been through,
gone through where you're going.
You wanna surround yourselves with mentors.
And even if they, just explaining the situation to them,
you're going to verbally process it
in a way that will become clearer in your mind.
And so a big fan of talking with friends and family
if you're like, do I push on or not?
And you gotta cultivate those relationships in your life.
You can do that, which is hard,
but it's not paid dividends.
I'm glad I think you said friends or family.
And I think it's an important word to use is the or,
not everybody has a family that's suited
to talk about familial topics or a family that's suitable
to talk about business topics, but the vice versa
might be true.
And Gary Vaynerchuk talks about having your inner circle
like being the most important aspect of your growth.
And we hear that time and time again
with visionaries that we host,
with great leaders that I talked to or shadow,
but I love that you also talk about mentors
from a sound board experience,
meaning, yeah, they're there to guide
and there's that element that's important.
And they're there to read about
and listen to from a distance.
You just shared about making sure
that you test your subjects of concern.
And by doing so, you often reveal your own answer
as you are the visionary of your life.
And I think that's an important reality
to gravitate towards.
So man, well said.
Thank you for that.
Appreciate it, thanks.
All right, so with that being said,
there's a page I wanted to go to.
I'm gonna pull it up real quick
and we'll dive in with whatever remaining time
we have on it.
Actually, there's two pages I'll pull up.
Let's just do this full screen thing here.
Let's go right over here.
So, yeah.
I am.
That's all right though.
I know people will know to gravitate towards you
as a leader and understand what you're doing.
As a leader and understand that if they wanna get ahead
of AI, then they need to be working with leaders
who know what they're talking about
from a leadership standpoint.
So that's my take on it anyway.
I've got the book now.
DIP is good to go.
The DIP, I'm ready to listen to it.
And let's move over to your page here though,
because you got a speaking topic on here.
Getting ahead of the curve.
Three strategies to create a billion dollar AI company
within three to four minutes.
Go.
Just kidding.
But here it is.
Whatever we can though, let's hit it.
Absolutely.
So these, actually this was a topic I did
on the Conscious Millionaire show.
When you have finished watching this
and then gone back and watched it again,
and then liked and commented and subscribed
and did all that stuff,
then you can go to the Conscious Millionaire show
if you want the long version.
But the two minute version is,
I think there's three basic goggles you can put on
if you want to start an AI product.
One is that you can take these general intelligences
that we created in your large language models
and you can specialize them.
You can fine tune them.
And the ways you can do that are just throwing them out there
is you can make a knowledge base on AI,
which you would basically upload a lot of documents
and material to the AI for the AI to then reference
in all of its communications.
Or you can fine tune it,
which is where you do some extra specialized training
on top.
If you don't know what those terms are,
you can look up fine tuning and knowledge-based AI.
But in broad strokes, it's about taking an AI
that knows everything,
but it might be hard to extract the responses
you're wanting from it.
Because you can do role play.
You can talk like Julius Caesar or William Shakespeare,
or you can talk like anybody,
but you might want to talk to you,
like a lawyer who's really good at specifically Ohio law.
You really want that AI.
So it's about narrowing it down
so you get a more consistent quality in its responses
without having to do fancy prompt engineering,
which is a valuable skill,
but it's one that you might want to be building a product
that doesn't require the user to be doing that.
So taking a broad AI, making it more narrow,
but increasing the consistency of the quality.
That is one strategy that you could be focusing on,
a lens you could be putting on,
and then you can just go to any industry,
a law, medical, those things are resistant to change
due to regulation, but are definitely disruptable.
You can find the industry and then use that as a way
to figure out how you can disrupt it.
The second way is that you can combine AIs together.
And this one, I think will be a little more challenging
for most people, but is quite powerful.
So one thing that's come out in ChadGBT 4.0
is like plugins, for instance.
And there was one plugin that is for plugging into Wolfram.
So Wolfram AI is an AI that is very good
at interpreting your questions,
but then using top-down logic on those questions.
So it's very good at Veritas,
at making things that are mathematically factual,
where the GPT AI is terrible at that,
because it's using more of a bottom-up approach
as opposed to top-down.
And so by taking the strengths of both of those,
you can, like things with that plugin,
you can make something that's better than some of its parts.
One AI that I think does have to be created
is an AI that will exist on top of tools like Mid Journey,
which are terrible if you say,
make a sign for, make a picture of, making this up,
a restaurant called Bucky's Brews.
It will mess up the sign on Bucky's Brews.
It will get a B in there somewhere, maybe even two Bs,
but it's just gonna mess up all the letters,
because its bottom approach doesn't know what words are.
So if you do a secondary AI that can locate that part,
find the part of your prompt, change the words,
that's a second AI existing on the first AI that's specialized.
So you've combined two different AIs.
So-
Wow.
Any ways to combine them,
I think it's gonna create some really amazing products.
And in a way, it's really simulating
the way the human brain works.
And we have a part, we make our decisions
by having a congress of different values
that compete with each other.
And AI is gonna go through a similar evolution.
Then the third goggle you can put on
for finding billion dollar ideas,
or strategies you can deploy to create a billion dollar company,
is that, I don't know about you,
but my experience using AI to create content or create,
create copy, replies to emails, whatever,
has been a moment of,
while I'm writing the prompt so often,
oh gosh, what do I tell it as a context?
Like how do I give it, like, who this person is?
what do I tell it as a context,
How do I even articulate why I care
like how do I give it like who this person is?
what this person thinks, who are they,
How do I even articulate why I care
what parts of my company are relevant?
Like there's a whole world,
what this person thinks, who are they,
what parts of my company are relevant?
which I think was always part of the process.
Like there's a whole world,
It was just hidden because typing took longer.
which I think was always part of the process.
So we had longer time to background type
It was just hidden because typing took longer.
So we had longer time to background process it,
but now when you have to type such a smaller prompt,
All that background processing is condensed in that moment.
And so creating tools that can more easily create prompts
and give it the context so that your brain
doesn't have to go through that pain of creating trouble.
The same thing that you're feeling right now.
I'm serious.
And I get to be the lucky outsider who's like,
oh, it was easy for me to figure out an example
because you're the one creating the reality for me,
but you're trying to condense it
into the finishing of the episode.
So it's a similar concept.
And I thought of the movie Her.
I don't know if you've seen it.
There's a movie called Her
and somebody wants to write a letter.
And she's, and I think he writes letters,
but the prompt from Her is like,
well, what's the personality type?
Is this a delicate letter
or is this more of a romance letter?
And it's those prompts that we're used to
in other forms of devices
or when we're talking to a strategist or a teacher perhaps
that's going to guide us like,
oh, you want to write US history?
Like, what years are we talking?
What centuries are we talking?
The great teachers of the world have the ability,
like you said, to pull learning knowledge smarts
into context with clarity.
And as AI learns how to do that,
we will unlock new heights and have far less friction
in terms of what we're trying to create
with these technologies.
And you're one of the people leading the way with that.
And that's amazing.
Any final thoughts you want to share, Gary?
Any favorite places for people to connect with you on
or people welcome to reach out to you on LinkedIn,
Facebook and elsewhere?
Yeah, people are welcome to reach out to me on LinkedIn.
If you are looking to start a new venture in AI,
right now we're looking for partners
to potentially start new ventures
where they plan to exit from them in two to three years.
Also, if you are a business owner that wants to add AI
to your company to increase its valuation
or just make it a better,
to run better optimized with out,
maybe you being as involved,
these are the areas we specialize in.
You can reach out to me on LinkedIn.
And if you are wanting to build a software product
that uses AI,
I'd recommend you can check out our website.
It was on the screen earlier, bahala.team.
And you can also reach out to us there.
Bahala.team, awesome, man.
Well, we might be catching up on about CapShow
and other technologies like that soon enough.
If you haven't seen that, Garick,
they are the number one recommended
artificial intelligence software for podcasters
by digitalmarketer.com.
And so they're right there in your wheelhouse
working on similar things.
And it'd be fun to bring great minds together
because we got 8 billion people in this world
to help my friend.
So thank you for being willing to do that.
All you vision pros listening in,
I hope you get some valuable takeaways out of this
and write them down.
See opportunities to apply this to your life.
And if you need some guidance on AI,
consider the quality of leaders that Garick mentioned today
and as feathers in his own cap.
And Garick, we appreciate you, man.
Thanks so much for being here.
Thanks, Jackson.
You guys all take care, bye.
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