1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:10,300 So speaking of LSCSW, licensed specialist, clinical social worker, right? 2 00:00:10,300 --> 00:00:13,180 So counselor and licensed specialist. 3 00:00:13,180 --> 00:00:13,940 Is that correct? 4 00:00:13,940 --> 00:00:15,420 Do you also take the title of counselor? 5 00:00:15,700 --> 00:00:21,140 Uh, no, like, uh, I'm a clinical social worker might be the easiest way to say it. 6 00:00:21,420 --> 00:00:28,340 Like, um, some, some States use different, uh, initials like Missouri. 7 00:00:28,340 --> 00:00:30,540 It's just LCSW. 8 00:00:31,220 --> 00:00:35,300 Kansas decided to be extra special and a specialist. 9 00:00:38,180 --> 00:00:38,900 Well, that's helpful. 10 00:00:44,140 --> 00:00:47,980 Welcome to the power take live where we discuss strategic revenue growth 11 00:00:48,100 --> 00:00:50,100 for your brand and business. 12 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:51,660 My name is Jackson Calame. 13 00:00:51,660 --> 00:00:54,820 I'm your host and we look forward to talking about what's important 14 00:00:54,820 --> 00:00:55,940 for your business today. 15 00:00:55,940 --> 00:01:00,940 Let's dive in. 16 00:01:01,820 --> 00:01:02,660 All right. 17 00:01:02,660 --> 00:01:04,780 Welcome in division pros live. 18 00:01:04,940 --> 00:01:07,900 You guys just got a sneak peek into the power take. 19 00:01:07,900 --> 00:01:11,500 One of the things that you may notice today is that I'm here without my trusty 20 00:01:11,500 --> 00:01:15,420 sidekick, Jaime, who definitely has family priorities to go to. 21 00:01:15,420 --> 00:01:16,260 So I was like, you know what? 22 00:01:16,260 --> 00:01:17,220 This is a late show. 23 00:01:17,580 --> 00:01:19,900 I'm going to go ahead and run it myself with Mr. 24 00:01:19,900 --> 00:01:20,740 Reggie Jackson. 25 00:01:20,740 --> 00:01:22,860 So Reggie, thank you so much for being here today with me. 26 00:01:22,860 --> 00:01:23,700 I appreciate you, man. 27 00:01:24,020 --> 00:01:25,100 Yeah, appreciate it. 28 00:01:25,100 --> 00:01:27,540 Nice to nice to jump on here with you. 29 00:01:27,940 --> 00:01:28,820 Oh, absolutely. 30 00:01:28,820 --> 00:01:37,500 So Reggie is a is a licensed, specialized clinical social worker who is able to help 31 00:01:37,500 --> 00:01:43,220 entrepreneurs with overcoming some of what I would call the mind trash, some of the 32 00:01:43,220 --> 00:01:45,540 baggage that comes into life and overcome some failures. 33 00:01:45,540 --> 00:01:50,340 We had a great conversation last week about what types of communication tools 34 00:01:50,340 --> 00:01:51,620 entrepreneurs can turn to. 35 00:01:51,620 --> 00:01:53,940 And we're just going to dive in a bit deeper today. 36 00:01:53,940 --> 00:01:54,780 Sure, sure. 37 00:01:55,260 --> 00:01:57,380 So Reggie, thanks again for being here. 38 00:01:57,380 --> 00:02:03,420 And where does your background cross intersections with entrepreneurship? 39 00:02:04,780 --> 00:02:13,580 I would say after I get into doing therapy and counseling and things like that, I started 40 00:02:13,580 --> 00:02:20,380 out as a contractor for a therapist here in Kansas City. 41 00:02:20,380 --> 00:02:27,180 And after working for her for several years, I had the idea of starting my own practice 42 00:02:27,660 --> 00:02:32,700 and went from there with minimal knowledge. 43 00:02:32,700 --> 00:02:36,420 I thought I knew some things, Jackson, and I really didn't know a whole bunch. 44 00:02:36,420 --> 00:02:45,580 So that's kind of where the where the the business aspect of of being a business owner 45 00:02:45,580 --> 00:02:48,180 and a practice owner kind of jumped off at. 46 00:02:48,180 --> 00:02:51,420 That's fair. All right. So what are some of these what are some of these lessons that 47 00:02:51,420 --> 00:02:51,940 you learned? 48 00:02:53,460 --> 00:03:03,700 Man, one is I think the biggest thing that the first big lesson I learned was it's 49 00:03:03,700 --> 00:03:13,060 impossible to get everything done every day as far as operations and making sure you're 50 00:03:13,060 --> 00:03:14,780 checking off all your boxes. 51 00:03:14,780 --> 00:03:18,220 You can do as many to do lists as you want. 52 00:03:18,220 --> 00:03:23,300 There may be some times where you don't get everything done and you have to be able to 53 00:03:23,300 --> 00:03:24,380 sit with that. 54 00:03:24,380 --> 00:03:27,380 Of course, you got to hit it the next day when you get up. 55 00:03:27,380 --> 00:03:35,420 But it's if you're trying to balance family life, whatever, it's going to be a time where 56 00:03:35,420 --> 00:03:40,780 you have to say, OK, this is not I'm OK with this. 57 00:03:40,780 --> 00:03:42,380 This part not being finished. 58 00:03:42,380 --> 00:03:45,100 I like that truth, man. 59 00:03:45,100 --> 00:03:48,340 And, you know, some people would call it not finishing. 60 00:03:48,340 --> 00:03:50,340 Some people would call it failure. 61 00:03:50,340 --> 00:03:56,740 Some people would call it not hitting your goals, you know, not not even not procrastinating, 62 00:03:56,740 --> 00:03:58,300 putting things off. 63 00:03:58,300 --> 00:04:03,300 There's a lot of labels that we can we can add to the pie. 64 00:04:03,300 --> 00:04:09,340 So, you know, we were going to talk about what what gets revealed when we as people 65 00:04:09,340 --> 00:04:12,340 fail and how to bounce back on that. 66 00:04:12,340 --> 00:04:13,620 I say we dive into that first. 67 00:04:13,620 --> 00:04:16,940 So when when we fail, what would you say? 68 00:04:16,940 --> 00:04:17,940 What's your secret here, Reggie? 69 00:04:17,940 --> 00:04:20,940 What is it that we reveal about ourselves? 70 00:04:20,940 --> 00:04:27,540 I think it reveals what the grit we have about ourselves. 71 00:04:27,540 --> 00:04:34,340 I think it also reveals I think one thing about failure, especially if anybody out there 72 00:04:34,340 --> 00:04:40,940 is like me and you're not going to just after the first failure, stop going after what you 73 00:04:40,940 --> 00:04:48,940 desire is that you you learn like different ways to implement your system, figuring out 74 00:04:48,940 --> 00:04:53,140 things you need to look at from a different perspective. 75 00:04:53,140 --> 00:05:00,340 You may realize failure sometimes means I need to outsource this part of my business 76 00:05:00,340 --> 00:05:06,540 or I need to spend a little bit more to make sure I have things running the way I want 77 00:05:06,540 --> 00:05:07,540 them to. 78 00:05:07,540 --> 00:05:18,340 And I think part of failures, a big thing I learned was if you are doing things you 79 00:05:18,340 --> 00:05:22,540 envision, or at least for me, it was like you're not going to be able to do it on your 80 00:05:22,540 --> 00:05:23,540 own. 81 00:05:23,540 --> 00:05:27,540 So part of failure is learning to trust folks. 82 00:05:27,540 --> 00:05:34,140 If you want to continue to expand, expand what you want to be doing, you know, and you 83 00:05:34,140 --> 00:05:40,140 got to trust your accountant, you got to trust your bookkeeper, you got to trust your virtual 84 00:05:40,140 --> 00:05:48,140 assistant, all those things and figure out how to believe in those folks and train those 85 00:05:48,140 --> 00:05:53,140 folks so that you can have the best opportunities to be successful. 86 00:05:53,140 --> 00:05:58,340 I am really glad you hit on all that. 87 00:05:58,340 --> 00:06:01,140 Those are things that I honestly I take for granted. 88 00:06:01,140 --> 00:06:04,340 I mean, I've been an entrepreneur since I was 21. 89 00:06:04,340 --> 00:06:06,340 That's 15 years now. 90 00:06:06,340 --> 00:06:10,820 And I remember now that you mentioned it, I remember how scared I was to give somebody 91 00:06:10,820 --> 00:06:14,540 access to my LinkedIn account for the first time. 92 00:06:14,540 --> 00:06:18,540 This is going to destroy me if they do. 93 00:06:18,540 --> 00:06:19,540 Like, no. 94 00:06:19,540 --> 00:06:25,840 Like, now I can laugh about it, but you know, the worst case scenarios were very difficult 95 00:06:25,840 --> 00:06:31,940 to imagine when I was brand new at business and, you know, trying to be ready for that. 96 00:06:31,940 --> 00:06:37,540 What I'm going to do real quick, I'm going to play our intro for us one more time and 97 00:06:37,540 --> 00:06:42,060 we're going to come right back in on that subject of trust and delegation and how to 98 00:06:42,060 --> 00:06:43,060 make that happen. 99 00:06:43,060 --> 00:06:44,060 All right. 100 00:06:44,060 --> 00:06:47,220 Welcome in to Vision Pros Live with Jackson Callum. 101 00:06:47,220 --> 00:06:48,220 I'm your show host. 102 00:06:48,220 --> 00:06:52,980 We will be doing interviews for visionary entrepreneurs and guest leaders who are building 103 00:06:52,980 --> 00:07:03,460 fantastic visions out there. 104 00:07:03,460 --> 00:07:05,060 Hey what's up Vision Pros? 105 00:07:05,060 --> 00:07:06,900 Welcome in to Vision Pros Live. 106 00:07:06,900 --> 00:07:10,900 Those who are you here with us right now, make sure to like, comment and share this 107 00:07:10,900 --> 00:07:11,900 episode. 108 00:07:11,900 --> 00:07:12,900 It gets it out there further. 109 00:07:12,900 --> 00:07:14,640 I got a special guest named Reggie Jackson. 110 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:21,820 He is a licensed clinical social worker and helps people with their relationships, helps 111 00:07:21,820 --> 00:07:23,700 people bounce back from their failures. 112 00:07:23,700 --> 00:07:25,220 We had a great time talking last week. 113 00:07:25,220 --> 00:07:26,220 I was like, you know what? 114 00:07:26,220 --> 00:07:30,260 He's got a number of unique perspectives that I know will be super helpful for the entrepreneurs 115 00:07:30,260 --> 00:07:31,260 who are listening in. 116 00:07:31,260 --> 00:07:34,860 So without further ado, I'm going to bring him back on and we're going to pick up where 117 00:07:34,860 --> 00:07:36,160 we were just talking. 118 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,380 So Reggie, thanks for being here again today. 119 00:07:39,380 --> 00:07:43,220 And what are you most excited to talk about on our show today? 120 00:07:43,220 --> 00:07:52,060 I think one thing is entrepreneurs put an incredible amount of stress on themselves. 121 00:07:52,060 --> 00:07:56,740 And I don't know if anybody else has had this experience but some sleepless nights. 122 00:07:56,740 --> 00:08:07,700 So managing anxiety and just maintaining some form of wellness with your mental health as 123 00:08:07,700 --> 00:08:16,220 you pursue your dreams is an important concept for folks to experience. 124 00:08:16,220 --> 00:08:22,060 I've worked with a couple of several business owners over the years and the amount of stress 125 00:08:22,060 --> 00:08:30,100 they put on themselves to perform, as you understand, Jackson, is incredibly high. 126 00:08:30,100 --> 00:08:36,380 And so there's a price to pay for that if we're not careful and we're not practicing 127 00:08:36,380 --> 00:08:39,700 taking care of ourselves. 128 00:08:39,700 --> 00:08:40,700 You mentioned it. 129 00:08:40,700 --> 00:08:42,660 You said there's a price to pay. 130 00:08:42,660 --> 00:08:47,140 If we're not there, I mean, there's a price to pay either way. 131 00:08:47,140 --> 00:08:53,140 If you're coming into the entrepreneurship world and you think it's all fun games and 132 00:08:53,140 --> 00:08:56,100 candy, that's not any entrepreneurship. 133 00:08:56,100 --> 00:08:57,820 I know. 134 00:08:57,820 --> 00:08:59,700 But can it be managed better? 135 00:08:59,700 --> 00:09:00,700 Yes. 136 00:09:00,700 --> 00:09:01,700 And you talked about it. 137 00:09:01,700 --> 00:09:05,940 So in 30 seconds, let's look at the bright, shiny horizon of that, Reggie Jackson. 138 00:09:05,940 --> 00:09:08,660 What is your vision for your clients? 139 00:09:08,660 --> 00:09:20,340 I'd like them to just be moving towards some positive steps in their lives. 140 00:09:20,340 --> 00:09:23,580 And it ended up on almost a daily basis. 141 00:09:23,580 --> 00:09:29,180 I always tell my clients coming to therapy is like working out. 142 00:09:29,180 --> 00:09:34,620 If you're just working out for this hour per week, you're not going to see very many gains. 143 00:09:34,620 --> 00:09:44,420 And so part of the work with your wellness and mental health is doing things consistently 144 00:09:44,420 --> 00:09:50,900 as far as maybe doing a journal prompt or practicing some gratitudes or affirmations. 145 00:09:50,900 --> 00:09:54,680 So that's in the vision of the daily. 146 00:09:54,680 --> 00:09:59,060 And then what would you say like, what's the outcome on the other side that, you know, 147 00:09:59,060 --> 00:10:02,940 let's, I don't know, if it's six months, six weeks, six years down the road, what are you 148 00:10:02,940 --> 00:10:08,460 hoping these entrepreneurs are in a position to feel and do? 149 00:10:08,460 --> 00:10:15,660 Hopefully have a little more space in their brains to create, figuring out different ways 150 00:10:15,660 --> 00:10:20,620 to manage your systems. 151 00:10:20,620 --> 00:10:28,220 You know, as we, if you are familiar with meditation and things like that, the relaxation 152 00:10:28,220 --> 00:10:34,420 of your central nervous system and learning how to breathe and learning how to quiet your 153 00:10:34,420 --> 00:10:40,380 mind for a little bit that allows space for creativity and ideas to come in, you know, 154 00:10:40,380 --> 00:10:46,500 and if we got all these different fires, we feel like we got to put out all the time or 155 00:10:46,500 --> 00:10:56,140 stressing over getting, you know, meeting bank or payroll and things like that. 156 00:10:56,140 --> 00:11:04,340 That level of stress detracts from our ability to create, which I think a lot of entrepreneurs, 157 00:11:04,340 --> 00:11:11,380 that's one of our gifts is our ability to create, think outside the box or in my mind, 158 00:11:11,380 --> 00:11:18,380 what box, but how to manage those things in the healthiest way possible. 159 00:11:18,380 --> 00:11:30,020 And you know, the ripple effect of stress on us means projecting that onto our kids 160 00:11:30,020 --> 00:11:35,100 and our family members and friendships and straining those things. 161 00:11:35,100 --> 00:11:41,500 And so being able to know how to say, all right, you know, whatever time I'm getting 162 00:11:41,500 --> 00:11:47,660 off today or stopping for today, I'm taking my entrepreneur hat off and I'm putting my 163 00:11:47,660 --> 00:11:56,100 boyfriend hat on or husband hat on or dad hat and kind of letting that other piece sit 164 00:11:56,100 --> 00:11:59,300 for at least some time. 165 00:11:59,300 --> 00:12:04,740 And if that means after a bit kids get to sleep and you go work for a couple more hours, 166 00:12:04,740 --> 00:12:10,980 that's cool too, but having some focused time with people who care about you and love you 167 00:12:10,980 --> 00:12:19,020 and support you most importantly is an important to this whole process. 168 00:12:19,020 --> 00:12:24,900 Yeah, you know a lot of beneficial truths about balance in there. 169 00:12:24,900 --> 00:12:30,060 And one of the things we were talking about just a minute ago was what gets revealed when 170 00:12:30,060 --> 00:12:32,060 we fail and how to bounce back. 171 00:12:32,060 --> 00:12:34,820 And you alluded to basically self-awareness. 172 00:12:34,820 --> 00:12:40,180 That's what I caught out of it was when you're going through a process of failure, you have 173 00:12:40,180 --> 00:12:45,420 an opportunity to become self-aware how you got there. 174 00:12:45,420 --> 00:12:46,420 What drove that? 175 00:12:46,420 --> 00:12:54,740 So what are some of the key tools to help that stressed entrepreneur who's got tons 176 00:12:54,740 --> 00:13:00,260 of anxiety, they're worried about all the irons that are in the fire. 177 00:13:00,260 --> 00:13:03,700 How do you get them to take a step back? 178 00:13:03,700 --> 00:13:05,060 You mentioned journaling for one. 179 00:13:05,060 --> 00:13:09,900 What are some other ways to get, let's say somebody's not even ready for that. 180 00:13:09,900 --> 00:13:14,060 How do you get them to wake up and see where they need to slow down? 181 00:13:14,060 --> 00:13:20,860 Or where they can get their next victories if that's maybe it's not to slow down. 182 00:13:20,860 --> 00:13:28,100 It may be part of that Jackson is probably re-identifying or reassessing what victories 183 00:13:28,100 --> 00:13:30,620 look like. 184 00:13:30,620 --> 00:13:38,660 Part of that is a lot of times we want to just see the goal come to fruition. 185 00:13:38,660 --> 00:13:47,780 At least in my experience, there's lots of micro goals that are accomplished. 186 00:13:47,780 --> 00:13:50,220 Let me throw this out there. 187 00:13:50,220 --> 00:13:56,700 If you have a perfectionist mindset, that's a losing game. 188 00:13:56,700 --> 00:14:04,180 A lot of us are everything has to be perfect and right. 189 00:14:04,180 --> 00:14:11,740 You may have some opportunities to do things where it feels like you did it perfectly, 190 00:14:11,740 --> 00:14:18,700 but those instances are going to be few and far between. 191 00:14:18,700 --> 00:14:27,300 Making micro goals for yourself and looking at how that's leading to your major goal, 192 00:14:27,300 --> 00:14:31,180 I think is an important skill. 193 00:14:31,180 --> 00:14:36,060 That's redefining what success looks like. 194 00:14:36,060 --> 00:14:41,500 Success may be like I met these quarterly goals, but some people are only looking at 195 00:14:41,500 --> 00:14:44,580 their yearly goal. 196 00:14:44,580 --> 00:14:51,300 Maybe two out of the four quarters you met your goal, those should be celebrated as successes. 197 00:14:51,300 --> 00:14:57,620 Then I need to figure out how to make four out of four quarters next year or what have 198 00:14:57,620 --> 00:14:58,620 you. 199 00:14:58,620 --> 00:15:11,420 I've met half my goals, so my year is trash. 200 00:15:11,420 --> 00:15:13,700 That's a thing called all or nothing thinking. 201 00:15:13,700 --> 00:15:19,940 It's a thought distortion that all of us may struggle with. 202 00:15:19,940 --> 00:15:27,460 I always tell people all or nothing thinking is like that kid in middle school that through 203 00:15:27,460 --> 00:15:35,900 a fit if they got a 97 on their test, it's like if they didn't get 100%, they failed. 204 00:15:35,900 --> 00:15:43,220 That's an unhealthy mindset to look at, to have, especially being entrepreneurs. 205 00:15:43,220 --> 00:15:48,060 It's a long-term game, my friend. 206 00:15:48,060 --> 00:16:01,860 Sorting through being able to pull out positive things you did and not making it siloing things 207 00:16:01,860 --> 00:16:09,500 instead of just saying, I only got 50% of my goals for the year. 208 00:16:09,500 --> 00:16:10,500 Yes. 209 00:16:10,500 --> 00:16:13,180 Let's take a look at one of these quotes that you just talked about. 210 00:16:13,180 --> 00:16:15,500 Entrepreneurs will benefit from reassessing what victory looks like. 211 00:16:15,500 --> 00:16:18,540 You talked about defining success. 212 00:16:18,540 --> 00:16:24,420 One of my clients from a year and a half ago, they had a business partner. 213 00:16:24,420 --> 00:16:29,300 They were targeting the real estate industry. 214 00:16:29,300 --> 00:16:36,380 Through some assessments, we learned that she knew nothing about the real estate industry. 215 00:16:36,380 --> 00:16:38,900 She didn't know their key performance indicators. 216 00:16:38,900 --> 00:16:40,100 She didn't know how to train them. 217 00:16:40,100 --> 00:16:44,420 She didn't know what it was they wanted in life. 218 00:16:44,420 --> 00:16:45,700 Was it a bad goal? 219 00:16:45,700 --> 00:16:47,780 No, it wasn't. 220 00:16:47,780 --> 00:16:49,580 Would it have been a bad victory to achieve? 221 00:16:49,580 --> 00:16:50,580 No. 222 00:16:50,580 --> 00:16:51,780 Is there anything unethical about it? 223 00:16:51,780 --> 00:16:53,460 No, not from a goal perspective. 224 00:16:53,460 --> 00:16:59,500 It was super misaligned with what she needed to be doing to find success and to feel purposeful 225 00:16:59,500 --> 00:17:02,620 and to maximize her talents. 226 00:17:02,620 --> 00:17:06,700 That process of redefining what success looks like, there are many of you out there who 227 00:17:06,700 --> 00:17:12,540 have set goals based on your providers and what your providers want, or maybe based on 228 00:17:12,540 --> 00:17:15,900 what one or two people on your team want versus what's best for everybody. 229 00:17:15,900 --> 00:17:18,020 I think that's super wise. 230 00:17:18,020 --> 00:17:20,540 Thank you for that, Reggie. 231 00:17:20,540 --> 00:17:26,260 Let's take a look at your vision for your life, for your practice. 232 00:17:26,260 --> 00:17:27,540 What's your vision? 233 00:17:27,540 --> 00:17:32,300 The big elevator version in 15 seconds, and then we'll dive into the details. 234 00:17:32,300 --> 00:17:40,980 The big vision is, and this may sound cliche, but really supporting people in building healthier 235 00:17:40,980 --> 00:17:43,780 lifestyles. 236 00:17:43,780 --> 00:17:53,140 There's so many dynamics that need to be fleshed out when we're doing that and supporting 237 00:17:53,140 --> 00:17:54,140 folks. 238 00:17:54,140 --> 00:18:04,260 I think if we could have a ripple effect of if I can support clients and, of course, making 239 00:18:04,260 --> 00:18:11,500 sure I'm healthy as well, that reverberates to their networks and ecosystems too. 240 00:18:11,500 --> 00:18:22,300 It may sound a little idealistic, but from the work I've done over the years, it is challenging 241 00:18:22,300 --> 00:18:23,940 for people out here. 242 00:18:23,940 --> 00:18:24,940 It's tough right now. 243 00:18:24,940 --> 00:18:36,820 We're just going through a pandemic, and being able to, as I'm supporting people, I'm also 244 00:18:36,820 --> 00:18:45,700 hoping to build this vision of what I have, goals for myself, my kids and my family and 245 00:18:45,700 --> 00:18:48,020 what I want to see for them. 246 00:18:48,020 --> 00:18:54,860 I think as I've gotten older, I realize I've spent a lot of years chasing money. 247 00:18:54,860 --> 00:19:06,060 I don't want my kids to have that mindset, like these ideas on materialistic items and 248 00:19:06,060 --> 00:19:13,740 not supporting them and just being able to say, what do you want to do with your life 249 00:19:13,740 --> 00:19:20,380 that adds value to your life, not material things to your life? 250 00:19:20,380 --> 00:19:30,060 I don't know if that makes sense, but it's about doing what you love and not caring about 251 00:19:30,060 --> 00:19:36,780 as much about the impact of our financial system and things like that. 252 00:19:36,780 --> 00:19:44,500 I don't want them to be financially illiterate by any means, but what would happen if we 253 00:19:44,500 --> 00:19:51,420 focus on just doing what we love and not doing something because we've been told we've got 254 00:19:51,420 --> 00:19:58,140 to exist in a system where everything is transactional and we've got to pay for this and we've got 255 00:19:58,140 --> 00:20:04,900 to have cool cars and a nice house and all these cool things, cool clothes. 256 00:20:04,900 --> 00:20:17,700 Being able to exist in life and just work on taking care of yourself in the best way 257 00:20:17,700 --> 00:20:21,100 you can. 258 00:20:21,100 --> 00:20:24,100 Things will come in naturally if you do that. 259 00:20:24,100 --> 00:20:29,700 Letting a person bring you things instead of you going out and trying to snatch them 260 00:20:29,700 --> 00:20:31,740 all the time. 261 00:20:31,740 --> 00:20:32,980 Absolutely. 262 00:20:32,980 --> 00:20:39,140 I noticed an array of services at Satori from batters intervention programs, anger management, 263 00:20:39,140 --> 00:20:45,500 and emotional regulation to counseling service such as anxiety, anxiety, trauma, family counseling, 264 00:20:45,500 --> 00:20:46,500 et cetera. 265 00:20:46,500 --> 00:20:48,100 Do you also do family counseling? 266 00:20:48,100 --> 00:20:49,100 Yes. 267 00:20:49,100 --> 00:20:51,740 That's what I had thought. 268 00:20:51,740 --> 00:20:54,900 I just wanted to make sure to be careful with the license titles. 269 00:20:54,900 --> 00:21:01,700 I know some industries can be a stickler about that, but from anger management to batters 270 00:21:01,700 --> 00:21:08,140 interventions program to the family counseling, overcoming anxiety and all of that, which 271 00:21:08,140 --> 00:21:15,780 one do you get the most passionate about? 272 00:21:15,780 --> 00:21:17,700 I have a history of working with athletes. 273 00:21:17,700 --> 00:21:22,100 I really enjoy that because I grew up being an athlete. 274 00:21:22,100 --> 00:21:25,020 Families are big. 275 00:21:25,020 --> 00:21:31,980 There's so many dynamics that go along with them, but probably my biggest thing right 276 00:21:31,980 --> 00:21:34,980 now is working with couples. 277 00:21:34,980 --> 00:21:41,620 I have my own challenges and relationships over the years and supporting. 278 00:21:41,620 --> 00:21:45,180 We're both divorced, so I get that. 279 00:21:45,180 --> 00:21:46,180 Yeah. 280 00:21:46,180 --> 00:21:56,740 I support men as well because we deserve it, we are exploring patriarchy and things like 281 00:21:56,740 --> 00:22:00,700 that in this society. 282 00:22:00,700 --> 00:22:04,140 We don't have a lot of opportunities to be vulnerable. 283 00:22:04,140 --> 00:22:10,780 We've been taught there's words for men who are vulnerable and things like that. 284 00:22:10,780 --> 00:22:16,380 Working men and being the best version of themselves in relationships and also in their 285 00:22:16,380 --> 00:22:21,820 business ventures and things like that as well is probably where I've done the most 286 00:22:21,820 --> 00:22:25,340 work at. 287 00:22:25,340 --> 00:22:31,420 There's so many blocks that I work with men. 288 00:22:31,420 --> 00:22:37,820 I would tell you, Jackson, probably I would feel very comfortable saying 90% of the men 289 00:22:37,820 --> 00:22:43,540 that I work with, if they do get emotional in a therapy session, they apologize. 290 00:22:43,540 --> 00:22:50,780 It's like, why are you apologizing for being hurt and experiencing it? 291 00:22:50,780 --> 00:22:52,780 We've been told you can't do that. 292 00:22:52,780 --> 00:22:57,980 I know women who do that too, but you know what I mean? 293 00:22:57,980 --> 00:23:05,940 I can only imagine the magnification that exists with the men you're working with. 294 00:23:05,940 --> 00:23:11,300 I would say a lot of my clients and prospects, as we get to know each other, we also have 295 00:23:11,300 --> 00:23:14,140 tearful conversations that come up. 296 00:23:14,140 --> 00:23:21,260 I tend to make pretty good space for that, but it is definitely more rare that a male 297 00:23:21,260 --> 00:23:27,420 finds himself willing to be that vulnerable and express what's truly going on underneath 298 00:23:27,420 --> 00:23:28,500 the hood. 299 00:23:28,500 --> 00:23:38,300 Yeah, and so many of us have not been taught healthy ways to express ourselves in relationships 300 00:23:38,300 --> 00:23:48,740 and anger is the only acceptable emotion we can experience. 301 00:23:48,740 --> 00:23:57,860 Sorting through with men how to build emotional intelligence and things like that is fun. 302 00:23:57,860 --> 00:24:01,060 I call myself a dude's dude. 303 00:24:01,060 --> 00:24:07,740 I'm a therapist, but I also understand, I always tell people I didn't know I was going 304 00:24:07,740 --> 00:24:10,740 to be a therapist until I was a therapist. 305 00:24:10,740 --> 00:24:15,620 I've done a lot of dumb shit in my day. 306 00:24:15,620 --> 00:24:22,220 I just happen to not get in too much trouble and figured it out as I matured. 307 00:24:22,220 --> 00:24:25,500 I'm coming to folks- 308 00:24:25,500 --> 00:24:27,700 I was going to say that too. 309 00:24:27,700 --> 00:24:31,500 I'm going to tell people while you've been divorced, and somebody might give us a hard 310 00:24:31,500 --> 00:24:32,500 time about that. 311 00:24:32,500 --> 00:24:36,660 Imagine that everybody's got a car and everybody's going perfectly straight. 312 00:24:36,660 --> 00:24:38,660 Hold on, I'm sorry. 313 00:24:38,660 --> 00:24:39,660 What's up? 314 00:24:39,660 --> 00:24:41,660 Are you still there? 315 00:24:41,660 --> 00:24:42,660 Yes. 316 00:24:42,660 --> 00:24:43,660 You got me? 317 00:24:43,660 --> 00:24:45,340 Imagine everybody's driving straight. 318 00:24:45,340 --> 00:24:47,660 Nobody's turning the wheel left or right. 319 00:24:47,660 --> 00:24:52,580 You turn the wheel right and you end up crashing the car. 320 00:24:52,580 --> 00:24:58,620 You're going to have some insight into telling people, like, yo, don't do that. 321 00:24:58,620 --> 00:25:03,100 Don't make that turn that way. 322 00:25:03,100 --> 00:25:09,460 There's wisdom from those who are obedient exactly and do things perfectly through life. 323 00:25:09,460 --> 00:25:12,940 I guess there's somebody like that out there beyond Jesus. 324 00:25:12,940 --> 00:25:15,500 Then there's those of us who've made mistakes. 325 00:25:15,500 --> 00:25:17,520 We got some wisdom packed in us too. 326 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:22,140 I'm much more inclined to listen to you and say, what did you learn during that hard time, 327 00:25:22,140 --> 00:25:26,900 and to continue with that metaphor. 328 00:25:26,900 --> 00:25:29,900 I'm sorry. 329 00:25:29,900 --> 00:25:33,020 There it is. 330 00:25:33,020 --> 00:25:36,740 I'm not going to judge you for crashing a car either because I've crashed my car. 331 00:25:36,740 --> 00:25:43,260 I'm not going to give you a hard time about that. 332 00:25:43,260 --> 00:25:48,940 That is something I want people to understand too. 333 00:25:48,940 --> 00:26:04,460 I think one of my superpowers is not making people feel judged in the therapeutic setting. 334 00:26:04,460 --> 00:26:09,060 That allows for freedom to share. 335 00:26:09,060 --> 00:26:11,580 He's muting us. 336 00:26:11,580 --> 00:26:16,300 Reggie, you've got somebody in the background giving you a little bit of a hard time. 337 00:26:16,300 --> 00:26:18,300 You want to take care of that? 338 00:26:18,300 --> 00:26:19,300 One second. 339 00:26:19,300 --> 00:26:22,340 I'll let you do that for a minute. 340 00:26:22,340 --> 00:26:51,460 We will just take a little break while you get that sorted out. 341 00:26:53,340 --> 00:27:07,020 I was going to talk about this thing called the power wheel. 342 00:27:07,020 --> 00:27:10,700 I'm going to see if I can find it online because Reggie and I were talking about the power 343 00:27:10,700 --> 00:27:14,620 wheel of emotions. 344 00:27:14,620 --> 00:27:17,980 It's something that he's working on improving right now. 345 00:27:17,980 --> 00:27:25,380 It might be called the power wheel of control. 346 00:27:25,380 --> 00:27:30,100 We were talking about the need for improvement in relation to the system. 347 00:27:30,100 --> 00:27:36,060 I'm going to pull Reggie back on in just a minute after I pull the wheel up. 348 00:27:36,060 --> 00:27:37,500 Take a little bit of a deep dive on it. 349 00:27:37,500 --> 00:27:41,740 We're just going to go to fancy Google images here and pull it up. 350 00:27:41,740 --> 00:27:44,460 What it talks about is physical. 351 00:27:44,460 --> 00:27:46,380 It talks about violence. 352 00:27:46,380 --> 00:27:51,460 In relation to violence, there's different things that people try to utilize in order 353 00:27:51,460 --> 00:27:59,660 to ultimately gain power and exert control over somebody, but they're toxic behaviors 354 00:27:59,660 --> 00:28:02,780 that shouldn't be utilized. 355 00:28:02,780 --> 00:28:10,340 In my opinion, in order to unlearn bad habits, you also have to learn healthy habits of communication 356 00:28:10,340 --> 00:28:12,020 that you can use to overcome those too. 357 00:28:12,020 --> 00:28:14,540 Let me bring Reggie back up here. 358 00:28:14,540 --> 00:28:16,100 Reggie, you good? 359 00:28:16,100 --> 00:28:17,100 Yeah. 360 00:28:17,100 --> 00:28:18,100 All right. 361 00:28:18,100 --> 00:28:19,100 Perfect. 362 00:28:19,100 --> 00:28:22,320 I dove into the power wheel a little bit on my own. 363 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:26,100 We were talking about the new model that's needed for upgrading that. 364 00:28:26,100 --> 00:28:28,100 Do you want to talk about that a little bit? 365 00:28:28,100 --> 00:28:29,100 Yeah. 366 00:28:29,100 --> 00:28:36,020 The power and control wheel, it was started by the Duluth model in the early 80s. 367 00:28:36,020 --> 00:28:40,340 I've been trained in the Duluth model. 368 00:28:40,340 --> 00:28:42,540 These basically are the eight different things. 369 00:28:42,540 --> 00:28:52,540 I interviewed hundreds of women, and those were the eight categories that those women 370 00:28:52,540 --> 00:29:00,060 share that were common strategies for not just abuse, but practicing power and control 371 00:29:00,060 --> 00:29:05,580 in relationships. 372 00:29:05,580 --> 00:29:16,700 I've worked in that industry of working with folks with perpetrators of abuse for about 373 00:29:16,700 --> 00:29:20,420 15 years. 374 00:29:20,420 --> 00:29:26,660 We talked about before, Jackson, things like there was no social media before in the 80s, 375 00:29:26,660 --> 00:29:32,780 or there was no cell phones in the 80s. 376 00:29:32,780 --> 00:29:45,260 Trying to do some pivots on how we go about supporting folks in managing abuse in relationships 377 00:29:45,260 --> 00:29:54,660 is something that I've been innovating here over the last few years as I learned that 378 00:29:54,660 --> 00:29:58,180 there's different ways that abuse happens in relationships. 379 00:29:58,180 --> 00:30:10,300 It's not just that... I would say the Duluth model is more set for someone who is basically 380 00:30:10,300 --> 00:30:18,340 maybe has a personality disorder or something, or just gets off on hurting people or their 381 00:30:18,340 --> 00:30:20,500 partner. 382 00:30:20,500 --> 00:30:27,700 There are things such as situational couples violence and things like that, where someone 383 00:30:27,700 --> 00:30:33,820 may have mental health issues, substance abuse issues. 384 00:30:33,820 --> 00:30:40,540 Maybe they just are poor communicators and struggle to manage their emotions. 385 00:30:40,540 --> 00:30:43,220 I'm not saying I want to be super clear. 386 00:30:43,220 --> 00:30:48,180 I'm not saying those are reasons for people to be abusive, because for every one of those 387 00:30:48,180 --> 00:30:55,700 guys or people, there's many more that have those struggles and don't abuse their partners. 388 00:30:55,700 --> 00:30:59,820 So I'm not making excuses for those things at all. 389 00:30:59,820 --> 00:31:09,540 But I am saying that there's many different perspectives to how people become abusive 390 00:31:09,540 --> 00:31:12,620 or practice abuse in relationships. 391 00:31:12,620 --> 00:31:14,180 Sure. 392 00:31:14,180 --> 00:31:19,740 I can speak a little more freely to that because I don't have the licensing problem, and you 393 00:31:19,740 --> 00:31:23,140 can agree to disagree with it as well, ready to course. 394 00:31:23,140 --> 00:31:28,980 But I will say that what I see with entrepreneurs too is they practice a lot of abusive behaviors 395 00:31:28,980 --> 00:31:33,580 with their employees, with their team members, with their family members, not to the degree 396 00:31:33,580 --> 00:31:39,300 of criminal offense, but to the degree that they're hurting their relationships. 397 00:31:39,300 --> 00:31:46,940 Somebody doesn't know how to recognize what it is that they're doing, then it becomes 398 00:31:46,940 --> 00:31:52,260 again, very hard to know, well, how do I change a habit if I don't know I have the habit? 399 00:31:52,260 --> 00:31:54,940 And how do I change it if I don't know what to change it to? 400 00:31:54,940 --> 00:32:03,220 Do you know of any resources, books or anything we can recommend to people? 401 00:32:03,220 --> 00:32:08,740 I would honestly, I will have to follow up with you on that. 402 00:32:08,740 --> 00:32:17,780 There's some trainings and things that people could go to, but I think exploring, if you 403 00:32:17,780 --> 00:32:25,380 are the leader of an organization, are you operating from an oppressive position? 404 00:32:25,380 --> 00:32:32,140 Do you have the mindset of, I'm in charge, so everyone underneath me has to do what I 405 00:32:32,140 --> 00:32:34,740 tell them to do? 406 00:32:34,740 --> 00:32:44,700 And I think anyone who's innovative in their thinking about running an organization, there's 407 00:32:44,700 --> 00:32:49,820 going to be people on your team that have skills that you don't have. 408 00:32:49,820 --> 00:32:58,180 And if you're not slowing down to hear their ideas, or at least exploring them, then you 409 00:32:58,180 --> 00:33:07,380 have to, that's just, I think that's poor foresight into being the best leader you can 410 00:33:07,380 --> 00:33:08,380 be. 411 00:33:08,380 --> 00:33:12,980 You know what, I'll give it even further level up example of that. 412 00:33:12,980 --> 00:33:14,460 So you're right. 413 00:33:14,460 --> 00:33:16,660 You got to look at how do you operate as a leader? 414 00:33:16,660 --> 00:33:20,180 Obviously, I'm going to say it's pretty obvious for our audience. 415 00:33:20,180 --> 00:33:24,700 If you are controlling people, you're not going to be leading for very long. 416 00:33:24,700 --> 00:33:28,820 And you're not going to be leading a very strong army either because only people who 417 00:33:28,820 --> 00:33:33,380 are willing to be supporting it are willing to be controlled in that nature. 418 00:33:33,380 --> 00:33:38,180 But let's say you take it to that next level and you learn to make space for people. 419 00:33:38,180 --> 00:33:44,420 What I see often happen with visionaries, entrepreneurs, when it comes to their meetings, 420 00:33:44,420 --> 00:33:52,140 they don't know how to run an effective meeting that includes the minds of those who are contributing. 421 00:33:52,140 --> 00:33:53,740 So here's what that looks like. 422 00:33:53,740 --> 00:33:59,660 How do you run a meeting where you then create space for people to contribute? 423 00:33:59,660 --> 00:34:02,580 Number one, you have to have your agenda outlined. 424 00:34:02,580 --> 00:34:03,580 Okay. 425 00:34:03,580 --> 00:34:08,460 If you've got an agenda outlined and if you provide that agenda, I'm doing it myself while 426 00:34:08,460 --> 00:34:14,980 I talk, just creature of habit, then that gives people a decent insight into what the 427 00:34:14,980 --> 00:34:17,380 structure of the meeting is going to be about. 428 00:34:17,380 --> 00:34:23,620 However, if you don't make space for those who are arriving to that call to say, hey, 429 00:34:23,620 --> 00:34:29,740 Reggie, what do you want to contribute to the meeting agenda today? 430 00:34:29,740 --> 00:34:33,420 Then you're doing what's called steamrolling. 431 00:34:33,420 --> 00:34:38,220 You're making your agenda more important than the other human being in the process. 432 00:34:38,220 --> 00:34:42,940 If you do that to people over and over and over where you make your agenda the one that 433 00:34:42,940 --> 00:34:50,980 matters, that is an abusive form of communication that leaves you being the only person who's 434 00:34:50,980 --> 00:34:53,020 contributing to the growth of your vision. 435 00:34:53,020 --> 00:34:55,380 What are your thoughts on that? 436 00:34:55,380 --> 00:34:56,820 I like that idea. 437 00:34:56,820 --> 00:35:05,180 I'm of the school of thought of more think tanks and coming up with ideas together. 438 00:35:05,180 --> 00:35:12,700 Of course, there's some foundational stuff that you as a person, as a leader has to maintain, 439 00:35:12,700 --> 00:35:19,860 but when you're trying to innovate and come up with systems and being the most effective 440 00:35:19,860 --> 00:35:27,140 you can, if you're not listening to what the people you work with say, not only listening, 441 00:35:27,140 --> 00:35:32,140 valuing their opinion so that you can expand your knowledge. 442 00:35:32,140 --> 00:35:41,340 I think I've been doing a lot of studying on just differences in the different generation. 443 00:35:41,340 --> 00:35:50,180 We've got, of course, our baby boomers, but the Gen Zers, the Gen Xers, and the millennials, 444 00:35:50,180 --> 00:35:54,220 I'm old enough to know I don't think like those guys. 445 00:35:54,220 --> 00:35:58,060 It makes me feel old as hell too. 446 00:35:58,060 --> 00:36:02,900 Oh man, I'm that guy now. 447 00:36:02,900 --> 00:36:10,020 But I can say that maybe I don't agree with all the ways they operate, but their ability 448 00:36:10,020 --> 00:36:16,420 to create and be efficient, I believe is second to none. 449 00:36:16,420 --> 00:36:19,500 We may frame that as being lazy. 450 00:36:19,500 --> 00:36:25,540 We got to chat GPT and things like that and all this AI stuff. 451 00:36:25,540 --> 00:36:32,700 I'm starting using that and maybe us Gen Xers are saying, oh, you're being lazy and not 452 00:36:32,700 --> 00:36:35,780 really digging in and doing the creative work. 453 00:36:35,780 --> 00:36:40,860 Meanwhile, they got tons of content put out there. 454 00:36:40,860 --> 00:36:48,740 We're like, yeah, but it's not creative, but yeah, they got their next two months of content 455 00:36:48,740 --> 00:36:54,500 planned out and we're still grinding through it. 456 00:36:54,500 --> 00:37:03,420 Being willing to incorporate people and I think as a leader, part of our job is to be 457 00:37:03,420 --> 00:37:12,060 able to recognize people's skill sets and maybe even morph them into different. 458 00:37:12,060 --> 00:37:17,020 We may have a title of a position that they're in, but it's like, oh, this person's really 459 00:37:17,020 --> 00:37:21,660 good at this, even better than what we hired them for. 460 00:37:21,660 --> 00:37:32,620 So let's maybe co-create a new position for them or figure out a way to utilize their 461 00:37:32,620 --> 00:37:36,460 skills the best you can. 462 00:37:36,460 --> 00:37:41,420 It's helpful to realize and you don't need to be an entrepreneur with access to Gallup 463 00:37:41,420 --> 00:37:47,140 studies and super disc assessments and Yadi Myers-Briggs and all that. 464 00:37:47,140 --> 00:37:48,580 That's over your head. 465 00:37:48,580 --> 00:37:50,460 Don't worry about it. 466 00:37:50,460 --> 00:37:57,700 All of that teaches you to listen and create space for people to communicate. 467 00:37:57,700 --> 00:38:01,900 They don't always know, but if you can remain flexible in talking to them and help them 468 00:38:01,900 --> 00:38:07,260 realize like, okay, I think from what I've seen, Gen Xers, Gen Z, they don't like to 469 00:38:07,260 --> 00:38:10,180 be boxed in very much. 470 00:38:10,180 --> 00:38:15,940 And so if you're trying to put them into one position and title, especially in a smaller 471 00:38:15,940 --> 00:38:17,880 company, they're bright. 472 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:19,460 They know that you need more than that. 473 00:38:19,460 --> 00:38:21,860 They know that you're going to ask more than that too. 474 00:38:21,860 --> 00:38:28,380 So you might as well expand the relationship a bit and help them see that you appreciate 475 00:38:28,380 --> 00:38:35,220 their adept nature to recognize like, oh, there's other things here I could be doing 476 00:38:35,220 --> 00:38:37,980 for your brand. 477 00:38:37,980 --> 00:38:39,500 Just invite me. 478 00:38:39,500 --> 00:38:45,100 I think they want that invitation in most cases, but you don't have to be super rigid 479 00:38:45,100 --> 00:38:47,500 about the experience as a small business owner. 480 00:38:47,500 --> 00:38:57,540 I think the rise of entrepreneurs and affiliate marketing and all these things we see business 481 00:38:57,540 --> 00:39:10,300 turning into, I think it is that is the one of the final products of those Gen Zers and 482 00:39:10,300 --> 00:39:20,460 millennials not wanting to work for Gen Xers who grew up in that oppressor type boss role, 483 00:39:20,460 --> 00:39:22,460 if that makes sense. 484 00:39:22,460 --> 00:39:23,460 Talk to me about that. 485 00:39:23,460 --> 00:39:24,460 What's that mean? 486 00:39:24,460 --> 00:39:26,340 So let's rewind a little bit. 487 00:39:26,340 --> 00:39:34,140 Gen Xers took a job, a lot of them, and they had a boss, maybe an oppressive boss. 488 00:39:34,140 --> 00:39:35,260 Tell me a little bit about that. 489 00:39:35,260 --> 00:39:42,860 Yeah, or maybe those Gen Xers worked their way up from they were climbing the ladder. 490 00:39:42,860 --> 00:39:43,860 Yeah. 491 00:39:43,860 --> 00:39:50,400 Mentored by maybe a baby boomer even or was under the leadership of a baby boomer. 492 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:54,140 We learned those skills from them. 493 00:39:54,140 --> 00:40:02,980 The Gen Xers now leading the company and then using those old school tools with these millennials 494 00:40:02,980 --> 00:40:08,340 and Gen Xers coming in and then the Gen Xers are like, I don't want to work for someone 495 00:40:08,340 --> 00:40:14,220 who's going to hinder my creativity and tell me I got to be here from eight to five when 496 00:40:14,220 --> 00:40:19,300 I can work from home and do more productive work. 497 00:40:19,300 --> 00:40:28,740 I want to prioritize my family, the millennials and Gen Zers, I want to prioritize my family 498 00:40:28,740 --> 00:40:29,740 and not my work. 499 00:40:29,740 --> 00:40:37,300 So I don't want to be in this brick and mortar for 40 hours a week. 500 00:40:37,300 --> 00:40:47,380 As we continue to maybe need to let go of some of those ideas, I think the pandemic 501 00:40:47,380 --> 00:40:53,620 really pushed forward the idea of working from home and things like that. 502 00:40:53,620 --> 00:41:05,660 But being able to create their own way of creating wealth, which there's multiple examples 503 00:41:05,660 --> 00:41:09,420 of those millennials and Gen Zers doing that now. 504 00:41:09,420 --> 00:41:13,580 And I think people are like, yeah, I'm not going to go to work at a bank for the next 505 00:41:13,580 --> 00:41:19,860 30 years and live my life like that. 506 00:41:19,860 --> 00:41:20,860 And so- 507 00:41:20,860 --> 00:41:22,900 Yeah, I watched Tim Ferriss write the four hour work week. 508 00:41:22,900 --> 00:41:23,900 Yeah, yeah. 509 00:41:23,900 --> 00:41:24,900 And so I think that is- 510 00:41:24,900 --> 00:41:26,900 I'm like, I'm onto that new rich. 511 00:41:26,900 --> 00:41:27,900 Right. 512 00:41:27,900 --> 00:41:35,020 And so I think young folks are saying that's not going to be the life I lead. 513 00:41:35,020 --> 00:41:41,740 And I have a nephew that goes to University of Alabama and he'll be graduating soon. 514 00:41:41,740 --> 00:41:44,380 But I was kind of joking with my brother. 515 00:41:44,380 --> 00:41:50,100 I was like, you know, these Gen Zers, man, they're graduating from college and coming 516 00:41:50,100 --> 00:41:53,980 back to live with their parents and just saving their money so they can travel. 517 00:41:53,980 --> 00:41:56,380 And he was like, I don't know if that's going to happen here. 518 00:41:56,380 --> 00:41:59,380 And I'm like, you better get ready for it. 519 00:41:59,380 --> 00:42:00,380 Yeah. 520 00:42:00,380 --> 00:42:07,540 And you know, I mean, this could be a whole nother episode. 521 00:42:07,540 --> 00:42:12,180 Well, I think a lot of people, just real quick though on that, you know, I'm going to throw 522 00:42:12,180 --> 00:42:15,680 some stones at the older generation a little bit, right? 523 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:17,900 Who invented the microwave? 524 00:42:17,900 --> 00:42:23,820 You know, like there's a reason why we all started to catch on to, oh, I can have stuff 525 00:42:23,820 --> 00:42:24,820 instantly. 526 00:42:24,820 --> 00:42:25,820 Yes. 527 00:42:25,820 --> 00:42:26,820 Yes. 528 00:42:26,820 --> 00:42:27,820 Right. 529 00:42:27,820 --> 00:42:29,180 And there's a generation of, well, I didn't get time off ever. 530 00:42:29,180 --> 00:42:31,660 You know, I had to work my butt off and I had to do this. 531 00:42:31,660 --> 00:42:32,660 And we're like, well, great. 532 00:42:32,660 --> 00:42:33,660 Don't do this. 533 00:42:33,660 --> 00:42:34,660 Don't do that. 534 00:42:34,660 --> 00:42:35,660 Don't do that. 535 00:42:35,660 --> 00:42:36,660 Right. 536 00:42:36,660 --> 00:42:40,940 You know, so it's a balancing that has come. 537 00:42:40,940 --> 00:42:47,740 And you know, for the more mature generation, I think it's an important realization that, 538 00:42:47,740 --> 00:42:52,180 you know, and I'm on the older side of the millennial generation with all siblings that 539 00:42:52,180 --> 00:42:54,780 are Gen Xers. 540 00:42:54,780 --> 00:42:57,860 We take a step back to look at what we've created. 541 00:42:57,860 --> 00:42:58,860 Right. 542 00:42:58,860 --> 00:43:05,340 We take a step back to realize that, OK, they're actually listening to what we warn them about, 543 00:43:05,340 --> 00:43:08,580 you know, and trying to find their own balance. 544 00:43:08,580 --> 00:43:14,740 Maybe we can find a healthy way to harmonize in the process that works out great for everybody. 545 00:43:14,740 --> 00:43:24,620 Yeah, I'm you know, I say we're I'm a Gen Xer and we're we're hybrids. 546 00:43:24,620 --> 00:43:33,660 We hold a special place in our society, in my opinion, because we're the last generation 547 00:43:33,660 --> 00:43:39,900 to know what the old world looked like and had to transition. 548 00:43:39,900 --> 00:43:44,140 I think I was a junior in high school when the Internet came out. 549 00:43:44,140 --> 00:43:51,500 So I remember all growing up, I remember, you know, the floor model TV and when they 550 00:43:51,500 --> 00:43:56,180 came out with this thing called a microwave and when they came out with this thing called 551 00:43:56,180 --> 00:43:57,820 a VHS. 552 00:43:57,820 --> 00:44:01,460 And I've gotten a transition to see where we're at now. 553 00:44:01,460 --> 00:44:11,140 And I think being able to if we no one else has that place in history, but it's Gen X. 554 00:44:11,140 --> 00:44:23,420 And having, you know, I call it the ward cleaver type dad where dad went to work, mom stayed 555 00:44:23,420 --> 00:44:33,900 home, took care of the kids and, you know, the dad's idea of being a great dad was providing 556 00:44:33,900 --> 00:44:40,140 shelter, food and clothing and not a whole bunch of emotional nurturing or anything like 557 00:44:40,140 --> 00:44:41,140 that. 558 00:44:41,140 --> 00:44:42,140 Right. 559 00:44:42,140 --> 00:44:45,060 And so I'm we're that last generation. 560 00:44:45,060 --> 00:44:47,220 Now we're more like me. 561 00:44:47,220 --> 00:44:54,300 I'm like, I want my son to be emotionally intelligent and not practice patriarchy and 562 00:44:54,300 --> 00:44:57,380 relationships and things like that. 563 00:44:57,380 --> 00:45:06,180 And so I do believe we hold a special place in our society and how incredible. 564 00:45:06,180 --> 00:45:08,460 What an important responsibility. 565 00:45:08,460 --> 00:45:10,260 You know, I'll call you out on it, man. 566 00:45:10,260 --> 00:45:11,260 We need you. 567 00:45:11,260 --> 00:45:17,500 We need the insight from you next because, yeah, again, I didn't I grew up with, you 568 00:45:17,500 --> 00:45:22,740 know, at least the Atari and the Super Nintendo have already established. 569 00:45:22,740 --> 00:45:28,100 But you guys got to experience life before the electronics really took off. 570 00:45:28,100 --> 00:45:29,100 Commodore 64. 571 00:45:29,100 --> 00:45:30,100 You remember that? 572 00:45:30,100 --> 00:45:31,100 Which one? 573 00:45:31,100 --> 00:45:32,100 Commodore 64. 574 00:45:32,100 --> 00:45:37,340 It was like it was the first like, dude, that's pre me. 575 00:45:37,340 --> 00:45:39,220 That's what I'm saying. 576 00:45:39,220 --> 00:45:40,220 That's your spot. 577 00:45:40,220 --> 00:45:43,220 I'm going to put all the responsibility on you. 578 00:45:43,220 --> 00:45:48,500 It is your job to help us. 579 00:45:48,500 --> 00:45:50,500 So yeah, good, man. 580 00:45:50,500 --> 00:45:53,700 Well, thank you so much for the insight. 581 00:45:53,700 --> 00:45:55,420 I'm going to wrap up for the sake of time. 582 00:45:55,420 --> 00:45:57,980 Reggie, it's been a pleasure and honor to have you. 583 00:45:57,980 --> 00:46:01,700 And of course, anybody who wants to connect with Reggie Reggie is linked in a great place 584 00:46:01,700 --> 00:46:02,700 to reach out to you. 585 00:46:02,700 --> 00:46:08,300 I'm at Satori Counseling on Facebook and Instagram. 586 00:46:08,300 --> 00:46:09,300 Excellent. 587 00:46:09,300 --> 00:46:10,300 All right. 588 00:46:10,300 --> 00:46:14,300 You're getting you're getting out there in the social media. 589 00:46:14,300 --> 00:46:16,300 Awesome, man. 590 00:46:16,300 --> 00:46:19,340 Well, everybody have a fantastic day. 591 00:46:19,340 --> 00:46:20,660 Vision pros. 592 00:46:20,660 --> 00:46:21,660 Work on your relationships. 593 00:46:21,660 --> 00:46:23,900 You know, put the relationships in your life first. 594 00:46:23,900 --> 00:46:26,620 And I would say especially your relationship with yourself. 595 00:46:26,620 --> 00:46:28,420 Make sure you're balancing. 596 00:46:28,420 --> 00:46:30,260 Make sure that you are paying attention. 597 00:46:30,260 --> 00:46:34,300 If you've got anxiety, if you don't have a friend to talk to, give Reggie a call. 598 00:46:34,300 --> 00:46:35,300 Give me a call. 599 00:46:35,300 --> 00:46:38,860 You know, make sure that you're building people around you who can help sustain you in your 600 00:46:38,860 --> 00:46:44,540 efforts and make sure that you are, as again, Reggie's pointed out, redefining what victories 601 00:46:44,540 --> 00:46:49,820 look like so you can celebrate as you go on this long journey of sustainable revenue growth. 602 00:46:49,820 --> 00:46:51,700 And we will see you on the other side. 603 00:46:51,700 --> 00:46:52,700 Everybody take care. 604 00:46:52,700 --> 00:46:53,700 Awesome. 605 00:46:53,700 --> 00:46:54,700 See you. 606 00:46:54,700 --> 00:46:57,420 All right, Reggie. 607 00:46:57,420 --> 00:46:58,420 That was awesome. 608 00:46:58,420 --> 00:47:00,620 Thank you so much for being on the show. 609 00:47:00,620 --> 00:47:02,300 It'll wrap up in here in just a second. 610 00:47:02,300 --> 00:47:29,300 Each platform wraps.