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I'm going towards the former pro athletes who are now entrepreneurs and trying to bridge

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that gap and use the same skills, techniques, and values that they used in sports and are

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struggling to get that transfer over, or those entrepreneurs who are still there.

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All right.

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Welcome in to Vision Pros Live.

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With Jackson Calame, I'm your show host.

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We'll be doing interviews for visionary entrepreneurs and guest leaders who are building fantastic

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visions out there.

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I just want to go through some of the things that might help you with your vision.

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Hey, what's up everybody?

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And welcome into Vision Pros Live.

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I'm your host, Jackson Calame, founder of First Class Business, co-founder of Able Health,

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one of our sponsors, great friends with Rick Meekins of Aepiphanni, who's also a sponsor

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for us.

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And I hope that you dedicate some attention sometime or some monetary donation value to

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the water project.

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They're up to great things for people in the world who really need it.

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I'm excited to have one of my good friends I would consider him, Coach Reed on today,

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Coach Reed Maltbie.

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I met him at the Kajabi event.

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Now this goes back to the power of that particular event and the power of that software.

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We use Kajabi at First Class Business in order to build out our courses.

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We also, in addition to our courses, have what we call our activities, and our activities

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is our onboarding process for our clients who are looking to scale sustainable revenue

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growth for their brands.

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And so they go in, they do the activity with our team members.

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And then in addition to doing the activity with them, they're learning as they go, but

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they're also accomplishing things that are necessary to build the bridges that allow

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prospects to cross the path of meeting them for the first time and deciding they want

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to commit to working with them on whatever it is that our entrepreneurs do.

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So with that said, I went to the Kajabi event not knowing a whole lot about that environment.

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And I found myself with a whole bunch of people who were like me, they're heart driven, service

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oriented individuals looking to make global impact and scale and help people in big ways.

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And here Coach Reed and I come, sit at the same exact table just randomly, put our backpacks

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next to each other, and we became really, really great friends.

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He's somebody who I admire because of his many, many years, three decades of professional

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coaching.

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He's a TED speaker as well, bestselling author, has some really cool physical collateral that

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he hands out as well at events.

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But really it came down to the dedication he has to his word choices and the authenticity

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and how he shows up and cares about those that he serves.

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So without further ado, Coach Reed, thank you so much for being here today.

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And let's dive into some of the changes going on in your brand and what you're up to.

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Excited to be here to talk with you, reconnect.

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We had such a great time at Kajabi Here Alive.

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And I agree with you.

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It's just being an introvert, typically by nature to go to an event like that and make

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such great friends in a short period of time, tell us about the power of Kajabi and the

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relationships that they build with people.

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Absolutely.

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I'm really excited to chat today.

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Absolutely.

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So tell us about, as we've been to raising excellence, let's hear about it from the angle

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of what it is and who should be listening today.

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Why should they be listening to you and what are we going to get out of today's conversation,

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do you think?

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So what it is, it was a 30 year journey, like you mentioned, almost 35 years now that I've

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been working in youth sports or in sports, working with athletes.

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And my area of expertise became helping develop those high performance environments.

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So helping athletes achieve high performance through working with coaches based on how

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they were developing those learning environments for their athletes, how they were communicating

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with those athletes, and then what type of mental skills we were instilling in those

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athletes so that they could perform at peak and not have those choke points.

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And as you said, word choice became a big thing with me.

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Every word mattered.

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And so I really started to look at how words affect the brain, how they change performance

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patterns, and then how we as coaches and leaders can become more transformational based on

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the way that we communicate with our athletes.

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Over the years, what happened is a lot of those athletes have grown up and moved on

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and they're now coming back to me and talking to me, but they're now in business.

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They're now running their own lives.

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They're now have their own families and they're becoming coaches themselves.

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And so my recent book Spartan Mindset focused on the language that we use in performance

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environments, not just in sport.

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And because of that, I'm starting to see that it's resonating with a lot of entrepreneurs

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because how many of us played sports when we were young?

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And right when I did my Texas women, I said, you know, raise your hand if you played youth

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sports and every hand in the place went up.

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And I said, raise your hand if you played pro sports.

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And Anthony Munoz was the only person in the room, so I knew he'd raise his hand.

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He was the only person.

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of us had had some kind of sports experience.

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And a lot of us wish that we had that old Ted Lasso ball coach beside us in our business.

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And so that's where my brand has taken a shift, is still raising excellence.

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I work with what I call high performance E-fleets, which are those entrepreneurial athletes who

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sort of straddle that line between still wanting to be very competitive athletes, but also

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highly competitive entrepreneurs.

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And I was just on a plane with a guy talking with him the other day, and he said, that's

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I'm still very competitive.

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I compete in CrossFit.

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I do all these other things.

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So I'm helping them bridge that gap and either transfer the skills that they used in youth

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sports or in sports over into entrepreneurship, or at least allow them to leverage some of

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those skills so that they can be just as successful as they were in business, as they were in

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And I was a Ted Lasso.

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I was that positive, goofy, dad joke kind of coach.

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So I'm not everybody's cup of tea, but a lot of entrepreneurs, when I stand beside them,

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they love having that kind of person who challenges them, but challenges them in such a positive

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I love that.

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I love what Dwayne Johnson said about that.

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He said, some people don't like me.

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Some people don't have good taste.

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So you got the people who have good taste out there.

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They'll gravitate towards you, my friend.

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So with that, you said, ETHLEETS.

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Is this a play on words for entrepreneur athlete?

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And it's funny.

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I started using the term, started throwing it around.

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I was talking with my IP lawyer and he says, TM that right away.

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Just put a TM behind it.

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Or put, yeah, because he says, down the road, you'll want to trademark that.

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And then I started searching and I realized that the e-sports industry had used that term

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as well because of electronic sports.

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And they're part of my clientele.

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So I didn't change it because I'm still embracing you.

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Because I see ETHLEETS as five different types of people.

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Like I said, it's those pro athletes.

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So there's the pro athletes version.

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Yeah, that turned entrepreneur.

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There's the entrepreneurial athletes, those entrepreneurs who are still very athletic

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and compete in amateur events on a regular basis, the weekend warrior type mentalities.

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And they're highly competitive in both business and in sport.

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Then there's those sport business entrepreneurs who make money off the $17 billion industry

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of sports, youth sports, and make a good living doing it, but use a lot of the characteristics

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of sports.

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again in that realm, they leverage their influence over their market and collaboration with brands

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to make money and drive the market.

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And then there's the rest of them, which is that those people that just are fanpreneurs,

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they absolutely love sports and they want their business life to be more like it.

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They want to be treated like athletes and ETHLEETS fall in that realm in the sport business

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realm.

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I love that.

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There must be a subsector that's a $17 billion because, and I mean that every NBA team almost

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is now valued at over 1 billion each.

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That's 30 billion alone.

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So I think it's a multi-trillion dollar industry at this point.

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Yeah, if you fold in the pro, you're right.

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It's really broadened.

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So do you know what subsector you were referring to with the 17 billion?

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Where the article or?

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Last I saw it was 17, it's probably gone up.

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It's the youth sports realm.

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So it's that age range there.

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They consider it.

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And that's the thing is that's why I was so passionate about working with athletes is

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because everybody else was treating it like a business.

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They were treating these kids like numbers and it was so much churn.

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And my thought was we're failing not only those kids, but our future generations are

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failing the world if we don't teach them the life skills and the values and the abilities

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to succeed beyond the game.

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And so we can either treat them like a number, like a bottom line number, or we can treat

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them like human beings that have an opportunity to raise excellence.

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And if we do that, when they go on and they were highly successful in whatever it is they

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do, they took what we taught them.

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your entire team and not like athletes, but human beings who you have an opportunity to

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help them develop what their excellence is, raise it and chase it every day.

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I love that.

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I had the opportunity to sit between two New England Patriot coaches on a flight once.

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They were not happy about that.

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They were they were really crowding the seat, you know, trying to make sure nobody got in.

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It was the only one left and I magically got to sit next to them.

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And so I was asking them about sports and my kiddos.

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I've got three at the time I had three kids have three kids.

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I want to be the best possible dad of them that I can.

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What what's your greatest advice for me?

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I mean, I was a parent coach in the process and they said, keep your kids out of Pop Warner.

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And I was like, huh.

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And I had an idea of what they were saying.

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And I said, what do you mean by that?

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What is it about it?

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They said they ruin the fun of the game.

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And they said, and keep them out of Texas football programs.

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That was the next thing.

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That was harsh.

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You know, I'm Texan.

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They were Texans living in Marl Falls area.

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And so, you know, that's when they said it's they're destroying the fun.

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The kids get burnt out.

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They get injured.

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They don't want to, you know, they don't want to pursue the game after they go through,

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you know, the office version of it, you know, where you're just treating it like a nine

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to five and, you know, get them into specialty camps.

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They said, you know, get them into things that are fun and help them develop a love

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for the game.

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And so it wasn't really calling out Pop Warner or calling out all Texas football coaches

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as much as saying we need to make sure that the kids are enjoying this process.

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You know, you can have fun and learn about this, too.

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What are your thoughts on that?

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So true.

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So there's research that's actually out there about that.

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That was done.

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They interviewed thousands of youth athletes and they asked them what is the biggest reason

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they play sports?

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What are the reasons they play sports and what are the reasons they quit?

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And the number one reason why kids play youth sports is to have fun.

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youth sports is because they're no longer having fun.

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That is the one that is the biggest driver.

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And those coaches are dead on.

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They're right.

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When you look at the fact that an industry that's serving our youth is a 17 billion or

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more industry and involved in other equipment manufacturers and everything else and that

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everybody's goal is winning and everybody's goal is making money, then what gets lost

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in the shuffle is the joy of the experience and what we had as kids.

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We were those kids who, you know, the door was locked on sat jokingly.

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The door was locked on Saturday afternoon and parents said, don't come home to the streetlights.

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We played every game under the sun possible and then we would morph them into what just

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And there was so much joy in that experience.

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they're over specialized.

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and being recruited in eighth grade and things like that.

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You know, Matt Turner, who plays on our World Cup men's World Cup team, I believe he didn't

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even play until like soccer until like halfway through his high school career or something.

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I mean, this is a guy that played every other sport and enjoyed every other sport.

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for two teams and playing travel.

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Also, their kid is so I must put my kid in that when you travel 500 miles and spend thousands

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of dollars to take your kids to a tournament to then play a team that lives right down

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the road from you that you could have stayed at home to play with.

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It's about the wrong things.

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It's no longer about the experience for the kids.

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It's about the money and it's about this fake over over sensationalized belief that we're

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creating pro athletes at six, seven, eight years old when we're not right.

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Or that if we don't do those things as parents or bad parents.

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Right.

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That's the flip side of it.

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Even if you're not in it for the money, if you're being pressured by society to do this

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and you're falling into that pressure, you're allowing yourself to become a victim of that

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experience.

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I was just talking to somebody who said that their their son was had an opportunity, not

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their son, a friend of them.

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I don't want to go through this is but the kid had the opportunity to be on a full ride

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scholarship at a particular university.

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And the parents are super bomb because he skipped it.

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Why did he skip it?

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He decided not to go to his signing day because he fell in love with a girl.

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That's not necessarily the best alternative when you're that young.

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But at the same time, like there's obviously a clear disconnect, you know, in what the

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kid wanted and what the parents wanted.

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And as a parent, if you've invested in all that, you've made your purpose all of that.

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Well, but you've lost sight of what the child wanted.

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Well, you're like, sorry, but you know, there's some responsibility on the parent side in

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the equation of recognizing what does this kid actually want?

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Yeah.

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And that's really here's what I want to shift gears to though for you.

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What is your vision in 15 seconds?

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What does that look like?

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My vision is always been that I develop leaders who transform lives.

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My belief is now looking at entrepreneurs that there are people out there who have not

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fully realized their potential and they know that they're put here to do something.

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They know they're put here for their excellence and they're making that transition in entrepreneurship

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or they're making that transition in the business world.

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And they want it's not just about making money.

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They want to leave a legacy.

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They want their name to be on people's minds and on people's lips years and years after

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they're gone because they left such an impact on the world.

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And I want to be there to be that coach that serves them and gets them to that point where

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they create that impact.

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So it's still leaders who transform lives.

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That's awesome.

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And so in 30 seconds, what's your vision for those of you, sir?

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What's your vision for these leaders?

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Most of them were highly successful in sports or in some other performance activity.

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And now that they're in entrepreneurship, there's this huge, I felt it myself, there's

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this huge disconnect.

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And so what I want to be there to serve is to show them how to translate the skills and

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abilities that they had in sport, transfer them over to the business world and then develop

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that transformational experience so that they can succeed in business as well as they did

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in other performance arenas.

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And then the process create new generations of opportunities for other people.

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You bring up a great point.

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You talked about the difference that exists in those two realms.

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With sports, team sports, you have an audience, you have fans, you get to go out on fields,

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you get to compete head to head with the people.

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In entrepreneurship, there's no audience to start.

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There's people.

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And if you do have an audience, they're like, who are you now?

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What are you doing?

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We've always known you as that football player, or we've always known you as this, that, or

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the other.

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You have to convince people to become your fans, so to speak, or walk the walk long enough

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in order to show people that you're truly at this.

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So what are some of the secrets that you would say help people overcome that transition of,

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wow, the lights were on me, camera action, we're going out there and waiting to compete

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with everybody to, oh, hello, this is kind of a lonely journey?

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Couple things.

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It's just like that scene from Hoosiers, where the team goes to the gym and they measure

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the baskets and the courts show that it's the same court they played on.

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It just feels bigger.

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It's getting people to understand that there's no difference in the environments.

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I've seen so many entrepreneurs that I've worked with who were phenomenal athletes and

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phenomenal performers, and you put them in front of a stadium of, I know one that played

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pro football, put them in front of a stadium of 50,000 people and perform at peak, walk

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into a boardroom with 10 people, and absolutely melt into a pile in the corner because that

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particular athlete did not.

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And I was like, it's the same environment.

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It's the same stressors, the same anxiety, it's the same preparation.

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There are so many, from a mental perspective, the performance is the same.

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It's getting you to understand that that boardroom is no different from the stadium.

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You're going to show up, you've prepared, you've practiced, you've trained, you're going

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to show up, you bring the skills to the table and you perform at peak, just like you always

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did.

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You're just in a different realm.

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The other one is that comparison is the thief of joy.

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A lot of athletes turned entrepreneurs or entrepreneurial athletes will say, man, I

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crushed it this weekend, blah, blah, blah, but when I look at so-and-so's business or

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when I look at how so-and-so's doing things, I can't do it.

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Well, as Teddy Roosevelt said, comparison is the thief of joy.

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You're comparing yourself to other people and their journey's different and how they

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do business is different and how certain entrepreneurs do things is very different than how you will.

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Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg and some of these other entrepreneurs out there, they're

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going to do things very differently than maybe an athlete entrepreneur will do things.

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And so, what you have to understand is stop comparing yourself to them.

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Start looking at the person in the mirror.

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The only person that you're competing with is the person in the mirror and who you were

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yesterday.

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And so, how you competed in sports is how you can show up in business.

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But if you're always looking at somebody else and saying, I'm not like them and they didn't

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compete like you did, then you're following the wrong model.

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How did you compete in sports?

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Surround yourself with people who get what you're doing, understand who you are, because

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they'll help bring that best out of you.

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They won't try to change into somebody else.

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Don't compare yourself to others.

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Compare yourself to your own journey, where you were in your sports realm, to where you

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are now.

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Those same skills can transfer if you have the same mental mindset that you did.

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Such a healthy habit to learn.

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One that I had to learn way late in life.

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I think I was 30 by the time I finally started to make that transition.

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And I remember one of the moments I was on a track and I was getting to my last lap and

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I was about to like shut down and run slower because I was in the last lap.

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Nobody's there watching, you know, whatever.

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That's that moment of integrity that hits you in the head and like, oh my gosh, this

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is the moment that LeBron James, that's who came to mind, was this is when he turns it

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up and makes sure he beats his best self.

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And so I booked it, man.

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I booked it all the way through the finish line, booked another 30 yards extra just to

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do it.

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And it was the first time in my life where I was like, that's what it feels like to be

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LeBron James.

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Yeah.

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Like that's, and it is a comparison, so to speak.

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But there's a very unhealthy comparison of, you know, hey, I have to be as good as that

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person over there.

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You know, I have to get the same results as that person over there.

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I have to be better than them.

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It wasn't about that.

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It was about recognizing that, okay, it's like comparing layups, right?

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Of course I'm going to follow and model somebody who's good at making layups for the sake of

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modeling that, but not with the intention of making myself into them.

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So both correspond, right?

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I think there's a correspondence on both, but I still have to, if I'm going to do myself

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a disservice from what I heard you say, if I don't focus on being my best self, on showing

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up for me and looking at myself yesterday and saying, you know what, I was good enough

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then as a human being, right?

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And I can be better today and I need to be willing to accept that if I was better today

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than I was yesterday, that's where happiness is.

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But I have to accept it in order to feel it.

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Is that correct?

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Yes, that's exactly it.

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Thank you for letting me process that.

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I was like, I want to make this, I try to get this concept because I don't want the

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thief to steal my joy.

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Yeah, I agree.

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And you will, what you'll do is you'll find benchmarks, right?

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You'll find standards and benchmarks and that's okay.

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LeBron James was a standard for you.

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It was a benchmark.

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Steph Curry for me, you know, he'll swish, rethrows before he leaves the court at the

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end.

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Did not make swish because that's how much into the process he is, how embedded he is.

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So it's the same thing.

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As an entrepreneur, I'm going to be like, you know what, I did enough on this and I

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think I'll be okay.

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And I maybe, maybe we'll get the funding tomorrow when I meet with the board.

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So I'll knock off now.

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Really is it where you need it to be?

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Have you switched those 10 free throws yet?

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Have you put in all the preparation you need to be?

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Because you wouldn't do that as an athlete.

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You prepare, like you said, you'd run through the line and finish the run.

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But in business, you're going to not because, or you're going to follow, like you were saying,

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you're going to follow somebody else's path.

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My nephew is in business and he was an athlete as well.

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He's a rugby player actually plays on the Orlando national touch rugby football touch

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rugby team.

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And he and I were talking the other day and it's like, people want to, like you said,

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people want to box you in.

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Oh, you're an athlete.

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So you must be good at sales or they don't think that athletes have the entrepreneurial

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brains or that they actually have the ability to be entrepreneurs.

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Like you get, you get boxed in as a dumb jock or you get boxed in as well.

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You know, you're so outgoing and so aggressive that you'd make a great salesperson.

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And he's like, I'm an ops guy.

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I'm so good at the operations.

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Like that's where I want to be is when I'm on the field, I'm the one that's seen the

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plays develop and having the vision to know where to go next.

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It's the Wayne Gretzky going where the ball will be so I can score more tries type of

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mentality.

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And he's like, so I'm the one directing traffic.

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So that's what I want to do in business.

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I don't want to be the salesperson.

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I want to be the one directing traffic on the back office ops guy.

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And yet as an athlete, a lot of times you get boxed out of those positions because everybody's

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always already decided that you're, you're this and not that because you were an athlete.

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So it's getting the transfer all those skills over.

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And again, it's like you're alluding to putting the earplugs in when you're getting advice

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from the wrong people.

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Yes.

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You know, my mom's a great mom.

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She can guide me as a mom, perhaps on spirituality too, you know, to some degree, but she's not

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my business coach.

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You know, like then therefore the opinions don't need to be there.

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You know, they're not as valid as somebody who may be more aligned with what my business

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is like a business coach, right?

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My business coach may not know anything about marketing.

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And so his opinion on marketing is invalid, right?

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You have to learn to turn off certain frequencies, certain people.

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You also talked about something that reminded me of the principles of hard work and sacrifice,

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right?

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And making those free throws a big deal, you know, making sure that you not only just make

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the free throws, but you make the swishes, uh, hard work and sacrifice.

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Are they good or bad?

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I think the grind hustle mentality is bad because it sets us up for burnout and tremendous

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failure, you know, emotional failure, because some people, you look at Tim Ferriss, the

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concept of some people can get done in four hours and a week and have a great life and

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do well.

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And others may have to put in a little bit more time.

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And so hard work and sacrifice are good.

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Any great, any athlete will tell you, you've got to put in the time, but it's got to be

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quality time being at the office for 15 hours in a day, but not getting quality work.

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And I'd rather be at the office for four and crank out quality work from a sacrifice perspective.

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Again, there are times that athletes do put it all on the line.

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And there are other times that athletes say, it's not worth it today.

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I'm going to pull out of this now because I'm going to get hurt doing this.

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I was watching the documentary on the tour de France, um, tour de France, unchained from,

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and it was the 2021 or 2022 tour de France.

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And they, there were athletes who one, one person pulled out and his team was so upset

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because they hung all their hopes on him and a lot of money on him.

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And he said, I'm not there this year.

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I'm physically not there this year and I'm going to hurt myself if I continue with this

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particular race.

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He chose not to sacrifice his future welfare in that moment.

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Sure, sure.

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Teammates were upset, but that means he can race another day and not just physically,

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but emotionally had he continued with that race, would he have burned out so emotionally

466
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,960
that he would have never returned to the game?

467
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:15,440
So again, in entrepreneurship, there are those moments where sacrifice is worth it.

468
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,000
And there's other times you have to step back and say, there's a bigger picture.

469
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:19,000
There's a bigger game.

470
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:20,400
There's a longer season.

471
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:21,840
We're not playing a finite game here.

472
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,520
It's like Simon Sinek says, it's an infinite game.

473
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:28,440
So we've got to think about the legacy and impact that we want to have beyond today,

474
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,200
beyond tomorrow, beyond even the next couple of years.

475
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:35,000
So if we're going to sacrifice, it's got to be for the greater good, the bigger game.

476
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:36,000
Wow.

477
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:37,000
Great.

478
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:38,000
Great reference to a Simon.

479
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,000
Um, you know, start with why, if you haven't read that book, we highly recommend it.

480
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,760
I'm sure that the coach Reed does as well.

481
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:47,680
Um, so to that concept though, the game aspect, right?

482
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,160
I'm a fourth quarter guy.

483
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:50,920
I love the fourth, fourth quarter.

484
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:52,320
I love the last few minutes of the game.

485
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:53,320
I got to live for that.

486
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:57,040
Um, and at the same time, you can't live in that every moment of the day.

487
00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:00,900
Um, we all have different thresholds on it, but you have to think about business as being

488
00:25:00,900 --> 00:25:03,520
more like a season, um, right?

489
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:07,400
Where you win some, you lose some, you rest some, you sit your starters out on certain

490
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:08,400
games too.

491
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:14,640
Um, there's, there's lots of balance that has to be had in order to, uh, not, not grind,

492
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:15,640
right?

493
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,000
To the point where you're, you're hurting yourself.

494
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,360
Um, you know, you may have to grind in the fourth quarter, right?

495
00:25:21,360 --> 00:25:26,400
For those last two minutes, you may have to, but to sustain a grind, unless you're living

496
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:31,120
in a position where you don't have a good environment, um, you know, that's, that's,

497
00:25:31,120 --> 00:25:36,040
if your environment is one in which it's hurting you on a daily basis, you might have to grind

498
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,680
every day just to get out of that.

499
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:43,840
The difference is coach Reed, you and I, we have an audience that's not stuck in that

500
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:44,840
position.

501
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:51,480
Um, you know, we have an audience that has, um, has more of their needs met than people

502
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:55,040
who might live, you know, in a third world country and don't have access to clean drinking

503
00:25:55,040 --> 00:26:00,000
water, um, you know, and have to provide like their, their next dollar is what's going to

504
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:04,820
get them food on the table for the next, um, for the next meal or their child's next meal.

505
00:26:04,820 --> 00:26:09,720
So we're very fortunate to live in a society where our hard work and sacrifice can be balanced

506
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:15,280
in a way that allows us to build our muscles, um, in a way where we can begin, not, not

507
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:16,920
lose sight of our joy.

508
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,080
So let's switch gears a little bit.

509
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:25,360
Um, what powerful lesson can other visionaries learn from your experience?

510
00:26:25,360 --> 00:26:28,440
Oh, wow.

511
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,160
That you never stop growing.

512
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:37,180
That I, where I am today at 49, I would have never guessed at 16 when I started this coaching

513
00:26:37,180 --> 00:26:38,180
journey.

514
00:26:38,180 --> 00:26:43,800
And the one thing that I figured out along the way is that as much as we think that we

515
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:47,880
get to a point where we become an expert or we become a guru or we become good enough

516
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,600
to be first team, that's when you need to pivot.

517
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,640
You know, this New Zealand All Blacks, one of the greatest teams in the world in the,

518
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:57,840
in the history of recorded sports, as they always say, when you're at the top of your

519
00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:59,320
game, change your game.

520
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:02,640
And that's the one big lesson that I've pulled from my experiences.

521
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,440
There's always an opportunity to pivot, to, to, to change with the way the industry is

522
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:10,640
changing, to change with how my life is changing and what I want and to change with how my

523
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:14,500
beliefs about how to get to my, you know, how to create my legacy moments are.

524
00:27:14,500 --> 00:27:17,400
And so I continue to pivot every chance I get.

525
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:21,480
And if you're a visionary and you feel like you're really, you're in a really great spot,

526
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,640
remember one thing, there's always somebody that's gunning for first place.

527
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:29,740
If you're in quote unquote in first place and two, you'll burn out if you don't shift

528
00:27:29,740 --> 00:27:31,120
gears every once in a while.

529
00:27:31,120 --> 00:27:36,920
The big dream is always there, but you may have to, you may have to change and change.

530
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,440
The only thing we can embrace, it's the only thing that we can, we can trust is change

531
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,360
will always happen.

532
00:27:42,360 --> 00:27:43,360
That's awesome.

533
00:27:43,360 --> 00:27:44,360
Okay.

534
00:27:44,360 --> 00:27:50,240
So you mentioned these pivot points and I, I've steered away from a quote that I used

535
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:54,600
to be led by quite strongly and it was begin with the end in mind.

536
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:56,860
I don't mind it, but I've shifted it.

537
00:27:56,860 --> 00:28:00,760
We lead with, begin with the vision and mind.

538
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:07,000
And that, the reason why that's so important and it's, it's, it's powerfully connected

539
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,600
to the lesson you just talked about.

540
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,200
My end, right?

541
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:15,400
Whatever I see as the end is limited by my vision, right?

542
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,320
So let's say I have a vision to get to the top of the hill, right?

543
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:19,320
I get to the top of the hill.

544
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,240
Well, what do I see on the other side?

545
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:22,240
Right?

546
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,440
I might see a beach on one side.

547
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:28,160
I might see mountains on the other and I might see a desert, right?

548
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:29,560
Often the other direction.

549
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,760
Now I get to decide where do I want to go from here?

550
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:32,760
Right?

551
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,120
The pivot is designed to happen because you're constantly changing.

552
00:28:35,120 --> 00:28:39,240
You can't see beyond your own future typically, not, not very far.

553
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:46,160
So you know, you're, you're pointing out what so many people don't, don't get to find out

554
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:51,320
until they're 10, 20, 30 years into their equation.

555
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,040
But if we can start looking at, okay, where does my vision take me to?

556
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,840
Well, it takes me to here, then start asking other people who are there.

557
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,400
What do you see beyond this point?

558
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:01,400
Right?

559
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:02,960
So how do you, how do you go about doing that?

560
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,280
We talked about Brendan Burchard's upcoming event, for instance.

561
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,320
Sounds like you're going to be going to that.

562
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:14,640
Who do you turn to to elevate your vision as you, as you get ready to pivot?

563
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:19,840
I don't get stuck in the, I try not to get stuck in the echo chamber.

564
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:23,600
So I don't listen to just people who resonate with me and I don't listen to people who just

565
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,760
in my industry or who I feel like have the same values.

566
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:26,760
You've got to go outside.

567
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:30,420
So when I worked with youth athletes or when I worked with, you know, I worked with Olympic

568
00:29:30,420 --> 00:29:35,360
governing bodies, I worked with a little bit over half a dozen, maybe more of the U.S.

569
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,900
Olympic teams in some capacity or another over the years.

570
00:29:37,900 --> 00:29:41,120
And one of the things that we always did, well, one of them is sailing and I'm not a

571
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:42,120
sailor.

572
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,400
I always, when I work with the sailing, U.S. sailing or like work with the intercollegiate

573
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,560
sailing association now, I always talk about, let's look at other sports.

574
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,000
How are they doing in other sports?

575
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,640
You know, right now in intercollegiate sailing, we have, we have some things that we're working

576
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,200
with within our industry.

577
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,880
And I said, you know, the same thing happened to soccer a couple of decades ago.

578
00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,160
So let's look how they did it.

579
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:00,160
Look, look how.

580
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:01,360
And so we were pulling examples from others.

581
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,960
So that's one is get outside your echo chamber.

582
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,320
The other one is the interesting thing about mountain climbers is they get to the top of

583
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,520
the mountain and they always see a taller mountain.

584
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,660
They always see something else they want to climb.

585
00:30:11,660 --> 00:30:14,680
No mountain climber has ever gotten to the top of the mountain and gone, well, that's

586
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:15,680
it.

587
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:16,680
I'm done.

588
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:17,680
I did what I came to do.

589
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:22,000
And nobody, again, going back to Simon Sinek, if you're playing the infinite game, if it's

590
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:27,640
for a legacy, then there mountains are just there, there are waypoints along the journey.

591
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,400
They're never the end.

592
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:33,640
And so I'm constantly retooling what that, like you said, vision looks like.

593
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:34,640
Okay.

594
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,800
So people set goals and goals are self-esteem based.

595
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,120
I'm going to sell this much this year.

596
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:39,120
I'm going to make this much here.

597
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,720
They usually have data behind them and they're self-esteem based.

598
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:45,320
But if you have intentions behind them, like I'm going to show up every day, I'm going

599
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,400
to go to three events this year that make me better.

600
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,120
I'm going to learn from a new industry.

601
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:50,320
I'm going to learn a new skill.

602
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,720
I'm going to hire a new coach who actually does X.

603
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,680
Those are intentions and intentions are self-compassion based.

604
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,600
If you've ever read Dr. Amy Saltzman's book, it's still quite place.

605
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,520
She talks about self-esteem versus self-compassion.

606
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:03,840
Those are self-compassion things.

607
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:04,840
Those aren't based on data.

608
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:06,520
They're based on process.

609
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:10,600
And as human beings, the most powerful thing we have is the story.

610
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:15,160
So if you have an end game, if I have an end game and my end game is about data, it's about

611
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:23,140
stale, sterile, unimaginable, unemotional information, then I'm going to burn out.

612
00:31:23,140 --> 00:31:27,400
But if my end game is a story, like you said, if it's a vision, this is what I want.

613
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:28,440
This is what I see.

614
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:32,560
This is what I, when I do visualization work with athletes and entrepreneurs, this is what

615
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:33,560
I envision.

616
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:37,360
I just did one with a group of entrepreneurs here in San Diego.

617
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:41,440
We did a whole, actually I did it with an insurance company I'm working with too.

618
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:45,160
They envisioned who they wanted to be in five years and what it would feel like and what

619
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,480
it would, and I went through the whole thing as realistic as possible so they could have

620
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,160
the emotional anchors to it.

621
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:54,720
The tastes, the smells, the sounds, the people beside them, how they felt, all of that involved

622
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:55,720
in it.

623
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:56,720
And I told them, I said, that's your anchor.

624
00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:00,000
And every time you feel like you're burned out, every time you feel like I'm near the

625
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:04,760
end of my game or I'll never make it to the end of my game, stop looking at the data and

626
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,720
start buying into the story.

627
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,160
What was the story you had in your brain?

628
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:09,800
What was the vision you had?

629
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:11,200
That's what's going to drive you.

630
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,320
Going to Brendan Bichard for me, like I told you before the show started, I burned the

631
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:15,320
boats like Cortez.

632
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:19,640
The day that the offer came out, booked the hotel room, bought the flight before even

633
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,640
thinking about it because it was like, it's like signing up for a marathon.

634
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,200
I already signed up, I already paid, I might as well go.

635
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:26,440
I'm going no matter what.

636
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,920
I'm way out in the comfort zone going to something like that because it's thousands of people

637
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:31,680
and I'm an introvert.

638
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:35,400
Unless I'm on the stage, which I've done, I'm an introvert.

639
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:39,480
But I know by going that I'm stretching my capabilities, getting out on my comfort zone,

640
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:45,360
meeting amazing people like you and potentially growing not only my business, but as KHL taught

641
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,320
me, as Chubby Hero Live taught me, I retooled.

642
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,800
I gained a better understanding of my brand and who I am as a human being.

643
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:55,880
And I'm so much more confident today having had the conversations with you and the social

644
00:32:55,880 --> 00:33:02,160
society and Alex Ong and everybody else, I walked away from that event with so much clarity

645
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,000
about who I am and what I bring to the world.

646
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:10,120
And I'd been doing it for 35 years, 35 years and in a weekend, I feel like my mind blew

647
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:11,480
up.

648
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:15,800
If I had not focused on the vision, if I'd been focused only on data, I wouldn't have

649
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:17,400
gone to that event.

650
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,360
And I would have focused just on whatever sales I was trying to make or course I was

651
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:21,360
trying to make.

652
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,240
Instead, I went to that event because the vision carried me there.

653
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:25,920
That's what you need to do.

654
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:26,920
And it's so cool.

655
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:32,640
I got to meet you when you came to that identity conclusion.

656
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:36,920
I got to meet you as you were voicing that for probably one of the first times to a group

657
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:42,080
of people and got to see like, wow, here's somebody who I know has lived what you...

658
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,400
I know you've lived that for 30 years.

659
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,680
I know that because I can feel it in you.

660
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:53,160
I can see it in you, but you hadn't quite seen it in yourself to that level.

661
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:54,840
And that's what struck me.

662
00:33:54,840 --> 00:34:01,440
I was like, this is cool to be here for this because I know that your trajectory went from

663
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:06,680
moving forward two steps at a time to 20 mountains at a time because of your discoveries.

664
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:10,120
So I'm one of my portraits.

665
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:14,240
So what's funny is the joke amongst my kids' friends is that I work in the CIA because

666
00:34:14,240 --> 00:34:17,800
every time they try to explain what it is I do for a living, I can't.

667
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,360
And then when people ask me, I'm like, well, I do mental skills and I do this and I work

668
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,740
with teams and I work with this and governing body.

669
00:34:22,740 --> 00:34:23,840
And so it's like, yeah, right.

670
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,360
He travels a lot and he can't really explain what he does.

671
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:27,360
He's in the CIA.

672
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:28,360
That's the joke.

673
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:34,040
I came home and I was telling my son, I was like, I finally can actually do an elevator

674
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:35,920
pitch and it makes sense with somebody.

675
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,960
And he's like, you're no longer in the CIA, dad.

676
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,560
Let's hear the elevator pitch, Coach Reed.

677
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:43,560
Go ahead, my friend.

678
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:44,560
Let's put you on the spot.

679
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:45,560
On the spot.

680
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:46,560
Okay.

681
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,360
So I just did it with somebody that it was like, oh my gosh, it's my first time.

682
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,480
I work with high performance E-fleets.

683
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:55,480
These people that straddle the realms between competitive sport and entrepreneurship or

684
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:59,640
business and want to try to transfer the skills back and forth between the two.

685
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,800
And they don't want to let go of one for the other.

686
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:06,320
They don't want to sacrifice one for the other, but they're almost lost in identity because

687
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,920
they're not quite sure how to transfer those skills.

688
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:10,920
I've done it for 35 years.

689
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:14,320
I've helped people reach peak performance in sport and in business.

690
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,560
I'm myself an entrepreneur coming from an entrepreneurial family.

691
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,120
I've been a coach for 35 years.

692
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:23,360
I've been an athlete for almost 43, 44 years.

693
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,560
So I get where they're coming from.

694
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:29,200
And if you've ever watched Ted Lasso, the joke is that's who I am.

695
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:30,280
So that's who I work with.

696
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:36,120
I work with these highly competitive human beings who want to slay in the boardroom as

697
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,960
well as they did on the field.

698
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:43,720
And they want that Coach Ted Lasso beside them every step of the way, stretching them,

699
00:35:43,720 --> 00:35:47,200
challenging them, but making them feel like they're on top of the world.

700
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:48,200
I love it.

701
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,640
We had a tall building for that elevator, but it was great.

702
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:55,920
At any point, had we had to cut off, you were in a great position to cut off.

703
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,640
So I'm glad we extended that and ended up on the same floor.

704
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,240
It was fun.

705
00:36:01,240 --> 00:36:02,240
All right.

706
00:36:02,240 --> 00:36:03,240
So let's hear about this.

707
00:36:03,240 --> 00:36:06,240
And I'm going to ask you a fairly strange question.

708
00:36:06,240 --> 00:36:09,260
And I'm going to precede it first.

709
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In coaching, right?

710
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:16,040
In development of others, there's a lot of self-actualization.

711
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,720
There's a lot of great things that we get out of it.

712
00:36:18,720 --> 00:36:21,520
We are the benefactors of seeing people change their lives.

713
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:25,680
But I want you to take it a step further for us if you can.

714
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,640
Why is that important to you?

715
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,220
When did you realize it?

716
00:36:30,220 --> 00:36:33,520
Where does this deep desire come from?

717
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,440
I talked about it in my TEDx.

718
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:39,920
I was working with that team in Florida and they'd gotten, they'd been played a rough

719
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:43,360
hand and this was a group of kids that they didn't even want me there.

720
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:49,720
I can remember they'd been tremendously emotionally hurt by their previous coach who went to jail

721
00:36:49,720 --> 00:36:53,700
for some unsavory behavior, not with them, but with other people.

722
00:36:53,700 --> 00:36:55,480
But this was a coach that they were very attached to.

723
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,740
They'd create strong relationships with this coach.

724
00:36:57,740 --> 00:37:02,920
They believed in him and they were at that young age of like 15, 16, 17 where really

725
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,660
impressionable and then their world falls apart.

726
00:37:06,660 --> 00:37:10,120
And so the organization that I was working for knew me as this turnaround.

727
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,720
I hated being called, they always called me the bad news bearer's coach because they'd

728
00:37:12,720 --> 00:37:17,480
be like, this kid needs your help or this is a group of wayward kids or these kids are

729
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:18,480
lost.

730
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:19,480
Can you take them?

731
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:20,480
And that's what I do.

732
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:21,480
I build people up.

733
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:22,480
That's who I am.

734
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:23,480
That's how my coaches coached me.

735
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,080
I'm just standing on the shoulders of giants doing the same thing.

736
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:27,360
And so I said, I'll take them.

737
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:31,160
And I remember that first practice, it was like a two or 300 yard walk from one end of

738
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,020
the field complex to the other.

739
00:37:33,020 --> 00:37:35,880
And I'm walking with the captain and another kid and they're coaching me.

740
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,160
The one's like, they're not going to want to talk to you coach.

741
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:39,520
They really don't want you here.

742
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:40,680
The mood is really this.

743
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:44,960
Here, if you do this coach and if you say this and follow my lead and I'll support you

744
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,240
coach, we'll turn them around.

745
00:37:47,240 --> 00:37:51,880
That group of kids went from not even wanting me there, not even really wanting to listen

746
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:55,640
to you, not even wanting to deal with me and their parents giving up on them, saying don't

747
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,000
enter them in this tournament because they're not going to win.

748
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,240
They're going to get embarrassed and don't do that.

749
00:38:00,240 --> 00:38:04,920
Everybody had given up on this group of kids because of what had happened, this trauma.

750
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:12,040
That group went from that to all of us sitting in tears the last game I coached with them

751
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:16,000
because I made bracelets for each of them that were my coach's prayer because I had

752
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:20,200
a pregame ritual that we did that my coach taught me.

753
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,400
And each bead represented a line in the prayer.

754
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,500
I give them all these bracelets and we're all crying.

755
00:38:25,500 --> 00:38:29,680
And then I find out from a mom that one of the kids who was in a really dark place said,

756
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:33,920
I want to be a coach, just like Coach Reed, because I don't know what he's got, but I

757
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:34,920
want it.

758
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:43,200
I want that feeling, whatever energy he's trapped, acquired, tapped into, I want it.

759
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:44,640
That's why it's so important to me.

760
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:50,520
Because every athlete I ever dealt with, I felt like had the opportunity to be an amazing

761
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:51,960
human being beyond the game.

762
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:56,640
And if I stripped away the game itself and realized that this was practice for how they

763
00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:00,640
would be in life, I could give them the opportunity to raise their own excellence and go on and

764
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,520
be excellent in whatever it was they did.

765
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,880
And it's the same thing with entrepreneurs and businesses and everybody else I work with.

766
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:09,520
One of my clients right now, a health insurance company, we were talking about fourth quarter,

767
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:10,560
they're in it.

768
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:14,400
And the problem is, is they've attached a lot of trauma to the fourth quarter.

769
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:18,080
And we talked the last workshop we did, we talked about unpacking that trauma and making

770
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,760
it something they have to train for and prepare for all year and they're ready for it.

771
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:26,840
The warrior mindset, they got so excited, they want to do pep rally and they want to

772
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,280
make the fourth quarter legitimately a two minute drill for them.

773
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:33,800
And that is unlocking somebody's excellence.

774
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:39,880
That is treating people like everybody has a right to unlock their magnificence and share

775
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:40,880
it with the world.

776
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:45,600
And so many of us either hide it, we're never given the chance or people bury it on us.

777
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,040
They bury us, they get rid of it.

778
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,120
The way they treat us, they make us hide it.

779
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:51,900
And I don't want that.

780
00:39:51,900 --> 00:39:55,080
That's why it's so important, man, because there is no better feeling in the world than

781
00:39:55,080 --> 00:40:00,840
watching the light bulb go off in a human being when they finally get something, when

782
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:02,760
they finally accomplish something they never could have.

783
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:08,140
Or more importantly, like you saw with me, when they suddenly have total clarity about

784
00:40:08,140 --> 00:40:12,640
what their magic is and how they can actually show it to the world.

785
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,640
That's why it matters.

786
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:15,640
Wow.

787
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:16,640
Well said, man.

788
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,160
I'm going to let that resonate.

789
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,240
While it does, you mentioned the coach's prayer.

790
00:40:22,240 --> 00:40:24,320
You mentioned that you got it from your coach.

791
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,840
Is this something that we get to be blessed to have access to?

792
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:33,280
Or is this something that is part of the process of working with you that gets unlocked?

793
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,680
It is part of the process.

794
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,840
You know, the challenge coin, I do that now.

795
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,200
It is part of the process, but I can still share it if I can remember.

796
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:41,200
I mean, it's included.

797
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:42,200
You don't have to do it right now.

798
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,280
We'll share it as something maybe I can opt in.

799
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:48,360
You know, share it as something that people can get access to after the show.

800
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:49,640
We are down to the last few minutes.

801
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:50,680
I don't want to rush through it.

802
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:54,600
I want it to be something that people get to receive and appreciate.

803
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:55,880
It is not my prayer.

804
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:59,600
It's been passed down by generations to me, so I don't even know who the original author

805
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:00,600
is, but yes.

806
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:01,600
Oh, man.

807
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:02,600
That's awesome.

808
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:03,600
Cool.

809
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,360
We will definitely look forward to that.

810
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:11,240
Is there any other elements coming up or any particular page that you'd like us to guide

811
00:41:11,240 --> 00:41:14,920
people to so they can connect with you further and learn more about what you're doing, Coach

812
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:16,080
Reid?

813
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:17,760
Just keep an eye on coachreid.com.

814
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:24,320
It's the big one because I am revamping it to better meet what my mission is.

815
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,520
And so there's some new courses coming out.

816
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:30,800
I've got some new products coming out that are all about the Spartan brain and the warriors

817
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:34,680
versus winners, warriors, not winners, and some of the other key pieces.

818
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:35,680
So yeah, coachreid.com.

819
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:36,680
That's awesome.

820
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,480
And I would say, guys, don't hesitate to opt in now.

821
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:44,100
We're talking about taking a math book that has proven that works really well and optimizing

822
00:41:44,100 --> 00:41:46,120
that to the next level of the math book.

823
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:51,280
So if you're in anybody's programs like Coach Reid, like Kajabi, like what I'm doing, it

824
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,440
doesn't matter what you're doing too.

825
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:58,160
You got to remember that you're getting people from point A to point B at all times.

826
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:02,240
You're always constantly getting them to that new pivot point, that new vision.

827
00:42:02,240 --> 00:42:05,760
So if you resonate with anything that Coach Reid said, make sure to follow him.

828
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:11,960
You could probably reach out to him on LinkedIn, Instagram, Facebook.

829
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:18,960
You're better at responding on Instagram than you are on LinkedIn.

830
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:19,960
So am I.

831
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:24,000
But I'll reach out to him on the platform if you feel like you resonate with what he's

832
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:25,000
up to.

833
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:29,080
If you're in Austin and you happen to be there during the time of Brendan Burchard's event,

834
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,400
what day is the event again?

835
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,960
The 14th through 17th of September.

836
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,560
Yeah, 14th of 17th through September.

837
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,360
There's an event that he's going to be at in Austin, Texas.

838
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:43,080
So don't hesitate to also reach out to him there.

839
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:47,320
And if there's any other way that we can, of course, help you, Vision Pros, leave a

840
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:51,320
comment in the comments and make sure to share this with your friends.

841
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:55,120
Coach, any final words of wisdoms you'd like to share with anybody?

842
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:58,640
Last piece, because language is a big deal, words matter to me.

843
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,660
The last piece, and I've been saying it a lot lately, is when it comes to how we speak

844
00:43:01,660 --> 00:43:02,660
to people.

845
00:43:02,660 --> 00:43:05,000
If you speak loudly, people will hear you.

846
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,220
If you speak intelligently, people will listen.

847
00:43:07,220 --> 00:43:09,920
If you speak lovingly, they'll follow you.

848
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:15,240
So if you are a leader that wants to be transformational, start speaking from a place of love to the

849
00:43:15,240 --> 00:43:18,800
people you lead and they will follow you everywhere you go.

850
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:22,040
And it will be so much better experience for all of you.

851
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,480
Hi Mase Clappen in the background.

852
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:25,600
Well earned.

853
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,400
Love that very much.

854
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,960
Thank you, man, for all the wisdom that you shared with us today.

855
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:33,420
We look forward to having you back in the future too, especially as you launch those

856
00:43:33,420 --> 00:43:34,420
new programs.

857
00:43:34,420 --> 00:43:37,600
We want to make sure that people get the chance to see it because you are constantly throwing

858
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:42,160
out value and it has a lot to do with the love that resonates from you as you talk to

859
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:43,560
me and as you talk to our audience.

860
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:45,360
So appreciate you, man.

861
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:46,360
Appreciate you, Jackson.

862
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:47,360
Thank you so much.

863
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:48,360
Hey everybody, have a great day.

864
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:49,360
We'll see you later, Vision Pros.

865
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,900
We'll see you soon.

866
00:43:52,900 --> 00:43:54,080
Thank you for being here today.

867
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:57,360
I'm really happy that you tuned in to Vision Pros Live.

868
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:03,400
I'm looking forward to seeing your reactions as these episodes continue to move forward.

869
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:05,000
We optimize them as the months go by.

870
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:06,840
This is going to get more and more fun.

871
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,200
We'll have more and more engagement as well.

872
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:14,360
We'll invite people to participate in the show and thank you for giving us your time

873
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:15,360
and attention.

874
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:35,960
Have a nice day.

