1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,120 Hey, what's up everybody and welcome into Vision Pros Live. 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:07,040 I'm your show host, Jackson Calame, founder of First Class Business. 3 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:12,200 We're so excited to have a special guest, somebody I met through the Kajabi event. 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:16,400 Now, what's really, what's really interesting is we didn't actually get to meet at the event. 5 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:17,720 We became friends beforehand. 6 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:21,080 We got so excited to see each other and there was a thousand people of this show 7 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:22,840 and everybody was amazing. 8 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:26,720 So like you couldn't get more than like two people further without just running 9 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:28,160 to somebody else who had an amazing store. 10 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:31,280 And so I knew we were going to be long-term friends and sure enough, 11 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:33,320 we're bringing Pualena Pakele. 12 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:34,680 I didn't want to mess up the last name. 13 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,120 Pualena Pakele, short, you can call her Pua. 14 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,760 She has an excellent brand called Rebel Media. 15 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:43,640 We're going to be bringing her out in just a minute and real quick shout out to our sponsors, 16 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:46,760 Able Health.US and Epiphany Consulting. 17 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:51,880 You can look both those up very easily online and also a quick shout out to the Water Project 18 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:56,600 that helps provide clean, drinking water to people in Africa by helping them dig local wells 19 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,640 and learn how to maintain those so that they can get the water that they need. 20 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:01,880 You and I have it pretty helpful to, you know, 21 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,240 gift a dollar or so to help them out with the process. 22 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:08,920 So without further ado, let's bring Pua on and I'm just so excited to have you. 23 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:09,880 Thanks for being here, Pua. 24 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:11,480 Thank you for having me, Jackson. 25 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:15,880 This is like the most phenomenally produced podcast I have ever seen. 26 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,880 I feel like you're a celebrity. 27 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:19,760 Let me bring him on. 28 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:20,560 Let me bring him on. 29 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:21,960 Oh, this is this man. 30 00:01:21,960 --> 00:01:22,960 Hey! 31 00:01:22,960 --> 00:01:25,360 It's Jaime. Yeah, go Jaime. 32 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:28,160 Jaime, Gabriela, Cynthia, Zach. 33 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,240 I mean, there's a lot of people involved in the process, but thank you for that. 34 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,680 That's, I can't wait for my whole team to hear that. 35 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:36,040 It's amazing. Great job guys. 36 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:37,240 We're just gonna, we're gonna sit in that for a minute. 37 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:38,640 All right. All right, we're done. 38 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:39,440 All right, Pua. 39 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:42,680 So tell me, you have an amazing brand. 40 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,480 So that's one of the reasons why I get so giddy about that with Rebel Media. 41 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,680 I looked at it and like your design's on point, your coloring's on point. 42 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:50,680 You've got this amazing personality too. 43 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:52,280 So tell us about Rebel Media. 44 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:53,280 Where'd it come from? 45 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:53,800 What do you do? 46 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:54,320 Yeah. 47 00:01:54,320 --> 00:02:01,920 This is an exciting story to tell because it's relatively new and yet I feel like it goes back. 48 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:03,600 It connects to the roots of who I am. 49 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,160 And I am a web designer. 50 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:11,960 I designed specifically for course creators and Kajabi is my platform of choice. 51 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,320 And so I'm glad that that was the way that we got connected. 52 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:19,720 And about a month, no, two months ago now, I decided to fully rebrand my business. 53 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:22,040 And I went from a solopreneur. 54 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,760 It was Pua Lena Digital Design was my company. 55 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:29,720 And it was, you know, I just, I liked to design and I thought I had something that would help people. 56 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:34,680 And very quickly, I realized that I wanted this to be bigger than I was. 57 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:41,400 And I wanted to bring on a team of people who are better than I am at all of the things that I want to offer. 58 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:45,240 So this process, well, thank you. 59 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:51,000 This process began, it began in January, but it really began a few years ago when I, 60 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:55,720 you don't start a business to just sort of like not want to grow it to its full potential. 61 00:02:55,720 --> 00:03:00,840 I mean, maybe some people do, but I kind of knew all along that this was going to be bigger than me. 62 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:04,200 So I, naming a business is really, really hard. 63 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:05,560 So hard. 64 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:07,560 It's so hard. 65 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:08,760 Every time. 66 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:09,720 Every time. 67 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,600 Or like when someone's like, oh, you know, we're going to do an icebreaker, 68 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:14,600 break into groups and give yourself a group name. 69 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:15,480 And everyone's like, uh. 70 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:22,760 I relate to this when, uh, when I was, um, when I moved on from video power marketing and Jake said, 71 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,080 Jackson, it's time to spread your wings and go do your own thing. 72 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:26,360 Here's an extra month salary. 73 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:26,920 Go build. 74 00:03:26,920 --> 00:03:28,760 Oh, and I was like, all right, I was crying. 75 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:29,560 I was honestly crying. 76 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:30,360 I was like, I don't want to leave. 77 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:31,080 I like this company. 78 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:32,120 He's like, nah, you're ready. 79 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:33,000 Go build your own thing. 80 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:34,120 We're not competing. 81 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:34,920 Do your thing. 82 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:35,960 And I was like, all right. 83 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:41,720 So I left knowing that by the time February came of next year, I'd set a mental note. 84 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:42,920 I was going to launch my brand. 85 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:43,880 So he knew that. 86 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:45,480 I don't know how he knew it, but he knew it. 87 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,760 And so I was Calame consulting and nobody can pronounce my last name. 88 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,400 So like what a bad choice to begin with. 89 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,320 Then I said, you know what? 90 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:54,760 I still don't know what my name is. 91 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,880 We're going to do J Cal digital, Jackson Calame digital, right? 92 00:03:57,880 --> 00:03:59,720 You know, I was like, someday I'll figure it out. 93 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:03,240 It took 11 months to realize it was supposed to be first class business and then six years 94 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:04,600 to launch first class business. 95 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:06,520 So you same, same type of track. 96 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:07,560 I think there's a lot of people out there. 97 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:11,560 So we'll have fewer to guess in this audience of people who are listening, you know, the 98 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:13,480 millions and millions of people who could have done it. 99 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:15,640 The millions and millions of people who could listen, who should be listening right now? 100 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:16,840 Why should they listen? 101 00:04:16,840 --> 00:04:18,200 And where are they going to get out of today's call? 102 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:19,200 Today's show. 103 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:23,440 You should listen if you have an idea that you know needs to come to fruition. 104 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:28,560 You don't know how, you don't know when, you know why, and you know, you have that sort 105 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:29,560 of inner knowing. 106 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:35,160 Yes, I do web design and you know, that's sort of the skill set, but my passion for this 107 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:38,320 lies in bringing people's visions to life. 108 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,040 The way I do that is through creating a digital space. 109 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:47,240 The way other people do that can be through coaching or, you know, venture funding. 110 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,400 That is the thread that brings us all together. 111 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:52,600 And that's what I'm really excited to talk about today. 112 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:53,600 I love that. 113 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:54,600 I love that. 114 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:58,320 The analogy that I would correlate that to is it's not so much, not so important about 115 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:00,280 the tools and mechanics, right? 116 00:05:00,280 --> 00:05:02,560 The design aspect, that media stuff. 117 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:06,400 It's what car we working on, why are we working on that vehicle? 118 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,360 What is it that you want to feel as associated with that? 119 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:10,360 Is that correct? 120 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:11,360 Absolutely. 121 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:12,360 You nailed it. 122 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:13,360 Okay. 123 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:14,360 Awesome. 124 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:17,280 So let's talk the fast version first in 15 seconds. 125 00:05:17,280 --> 00:05:18,800 What's your vision? 126 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:20,480 This time urgency. 127 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:25,720 My vision is to create a space for people to, exactly what we just said, to know that it's 128 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,960 okay to actually let your dreams come to life. 129 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:29,960 I love that. 130 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,720 Tying that back to the bringing their ideas to fruition, right? 131 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:33,720 Absolutely. 132 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:34,720 So those two concepts we got. 133 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:36,120 Tell me more about that now. 134 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,200 Now you have more than 15 seconds. 135 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,760 So let's hear just a little bit more detail about the vision itself. 136 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:42,760 Yeah. 137 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:48,000 So I mean, my company's called Rebel Media because I feel like people who have these 138 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:54,800 big ideas and they want to serve people in creative, innovative ways must tap into their 139 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:59,920 inner rebel and be okay with thinking outside the box and offering solutions that may not 140 00:05:59,920 --> 00:06:07,320 exist or in ways that don't feel traditional or socially normalized or even accepted in 141 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:08,680 positive ways. 142 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:15,880 And that to me is can feel like a pipe dream and people just limit themselves like crazy. 143 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:19,200 And a lot of times the excuse is I don't know how. 144 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:20,200 And I get that. 145 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:24,600 That feels very legitimate until you realize that as long as you know why you want to do 146 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:29,640 something and you have that deep passion for it, you can learn the how or hire somebody 147 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:34,840 who does the how well and you can continue to build that passion. 148 00:06:34,840 --> 00:06:35,840 I love that. 149 00:06:35,840 --> 00:06:38,520 There's so many ways we can go with that. 150 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:43,240 One I want to call you the positive rebel. 151 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,120 I see that those two things go hand in hand. 152 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:49,560 And when you live in a world of negativity, you know, and we live in a world that does 153 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:53,880 have a lot of negativity in it, there's plenty of positive to it's often what color are you 154 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:55,880 looking for, you know, in the world. 155 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,040 It's usually what you see, right? 156 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:02,480 But there's so many people that feel so drowned by the negativity that you can feel very alone 157 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:06,640 in the process, which means that you're rebelling against that, that nature. 158 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,120 So the I don't know hows. 159 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:13,280 What came to mind when you said that was that so many people don't know where to get the 160 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:14,280 support, right? 161 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:15,880 I don't know who supports me, right? 162 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:21,320 They might know how, but everybody's challenged and say no, you know, and what have you learned 163 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:26,400 in your experience that has caused you to become such a supportive individual because 164 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:28,640 that you emulate, like you radiate support? 165 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:29,640 Where'd you pick that up? 166 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:31,600 You know, I, I, I guess I've been lucky. 167 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:40,040 I've been very supported in my life and I've been supported in circles that are not necessarily 168 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:45,360 traditional or, you know, we wouldn't expect to get support for, I'm having a hard time 169 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:53,280 thinking of an example, but I, I very much recognize and appreciate and value how support 170 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:58,440 can take you from a place of like, I don't think I can keep moving to, I'm just going 171 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:00,040 to take one more step. 172 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:05,600 And the world of entrepreneurship, as you said, it can be one of the loneliest places 173 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:06,600 on earth. 174 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:07,600 Yes. 175 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:09,320 If you decide to, you know, call it that. 176 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:16,560 Or you can look at it as like, wow, I am going to seek out people who identify as entrepreneurs 177 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:19,520 because they are open to connection. 178 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,480 They're open to collaboration, to connecting you with people. 179 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:26,320 And it's interesting because I've been in this space for so long that when I talk to 180 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:30,000 people who are more familiar with the corporate space, I get the feeling that I'm going to 181 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,240 get this like suffocating feeling. 182 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:38,400 When they say like paid time off, I'm like, what is, I don't want to go back there. 183 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:42,960 You know, like they have to ask to, to do things in their life that bring them joy. 184 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:47,240 And I get that that's a place that people need to be or choose to be. 185 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:48,240 Not saying that that's bad. 186 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:49,560 I'm just saying it's not for me. 187 00:08:49,560 --> 00:08:54,480 And it's not for many people and know that there are people out there and, and they want 188 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:55,720 to connect with you. 189 00:08:55,720 --> 00:09:00,400 And one of the things that the words that I want to eliminate from the entrepreneur dictionary 190 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:01,400 is, 191 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:02,400 Let's do it. 192 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:03,400 Oh, real, right? 193 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:04,400 C word. 194 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:05,400 Oh my gosh. 195 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:06,400 Yes. 196 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:10,760 I love meeting other designers because every client in the world shouldn't work with me. 197 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:12,840 And I shouldn't say yes to them, right? 198 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:17,360 If you have a strong referral pool, you don't have competition. 199 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:20,320 You have collaboration and you can lift each other up. 200 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:21,920 And that's what this is all about. 201 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:22,920 So. 202 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:23,920 Oh, that's right. 203 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:27,440 That reminds me of my other C word that I'd like to eliminate, which is cheating. 204 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:28,440 Oh, yeah. 205 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:29,760 I've driven one test, right? 206 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,640 It's collaboration in the real world. 207 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:36,480 You're modeling, you're borrowing, you're sharing, right? 208 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:37,480 Collective information. 209 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:43,440 So, but yeah, that competition word is that there's some people who, you know, it's, it's 210 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:48,120 hard to inspire them to let go right of that reality. 211 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,520 But there's so many that will and can. 212 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:52,360 That's also what's so cool about Kajabi. 213 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:57,000 You know, as all these collaborators, collaborators were there, these course creators who could 214 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:58,720 feel intimidated or threatened. 215 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:03,360 Yet here we are openly sharing what it is we're up to, how it is we're going about it. 216 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:06,760 And then it's empowering because you're not talking to people who don't understand your 217 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:07,760 world. 218 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,480 You're talking to people who get you, you know, what you're up to and they're like, man, 219 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:12,080 I'm going to these same things too. 220 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:13,080 So. 221 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:14,080 Absolutely. 222 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:16,360 Well, who are some of your favorite people that you connected with at the Kajabi event? 223 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:17,360 Three new people. 224 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:18,880 Oh my gosh, only three? 225 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:19,880 Okay. 226 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:20,880 You can do five. 227 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:21,880 You can do five. 228 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,920 Man, this is really, really hard. 229 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:28,920 And I may only know their first names, but I met someone named Mel and Mel is amazing. 230 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,400 Mel is a leadership coach. 231 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,080 He works, he works a lot actually in the corporate space. 232 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,440 And I find that fascinating as for somebody. 233 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,600 We'll find their info and we'll drop it in the show notes. 234 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:39,600 Everybody's listening. 235 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:40,600 Yeah. 236 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:41,600 That way you've got that. 237 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,120 I am, I actually can, let me grab his last name for you right now. 238 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:45,200 So I don't forget. 239 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:49,200 And his full name is Mel Rick, which I thought was cool. 240 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:50,520 Mel Rick Mitchell. 241 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:51,520 Mel Mitchell. 242 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:52,520 Yeah. 243 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:56,400 So he, we actually had lunch together a couple of times and we sort of formed this little, 244 00:10:56,400 --> 00:11:03,040 this little crew that we would sit together and, yeah, just, and, and he is great. 245 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:04,440 He's, he's kept in touch. 246 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:08,560 We have like a little group text going and he wants to collaborate. 247 00:11:08,560 --> 00:11:14,200 And it's so interesting because our little group, we had four very different businesses. 248 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:17,520 And yet we're going to find a way to create something together. 249 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,800 We don't know what it is, but we enjoy each other's personalities. 250 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:24,440 We, we hit it off as, as people. 251 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:27,880 And so we feel like we could support each other in whatever this becomes. 252 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:33,800 You know, the other person, her name is Abby Unger and she is a, she coaches aspiring travel 253 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:34,800 agents. 254 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:36,280 No, not travel agents, flight attendants. 255 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:37,280 Okay. 256 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:40,040 So if you want to apply to be a flight attendant, prepare for your interview. 257 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:41,680 There's so many people who want to do that. 258 00:11:41,680 --> 00:11:42,680 They're intimidated. 259 00:11:42,680 --> 00:11:44,280 Like, how do you even get in? 260 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:45,280 Totally. 261 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:48,840 She's a phenomenal community and courses for that. 262 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:50,960 So I mean, she's amazing. 263 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:54,120 And then, you know, Paul Larson is another person in that group. 264 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:59,240 He is another leadership and imposter syndrome coach for, he works with corporations and 265 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,840 individuals and sort of like the C-suite level. 266 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:03,720 Did you tell him his name is Scout wrong? 267 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:04,720 You're rebel against it. 268 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:05,720 And Paul, Paul. 269 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:06,720 Yeah. 270 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:07,720 Yeah. 271 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:08,720 Did you tell him it's not wrong? 272 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:09,720 Right. 273 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,520 You like my dad jokes? 274 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:13,520 I love them. 275 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:14,520 Pretty good. 276 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:16,020 The world needs more dad jokes. 277 00:12:16,020 --> 00:12:17,020 Thank you. 278 00:12:17,020 --> 00:12:18,020 Hi, May. 279 00:12:18,020 --> 00:12:20,120 I'm going to tell a dad joke when you're ready. 280 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:21,120 Okay. 281 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,840 So I was like, no, please. 282 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:25,280 All right. 283 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:31,600 So what powerful lesson might we go back towards the audience as far as what they're learning 284 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:33,040 is they're putting their visions out there. 285 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,480 They're getting ideas out there. 286 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:36,480 What can they learn from your experience? 287 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:37,480 What did you wish you knew? 288 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:41,600 I really want to answer that question, but I first, I want to say hi to Mr. Don Go. 289 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,720 Hey, what's up, Mr. Don Go. 290 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,640 One of the most incredible humans on this planet. 291 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:49,560 We got a sneak peek interview with him already. 292 00:12:49,560 --> 00:12:50,560 He's coming on to the next. 293 00:12:50,560 --> 00:12:52,520 He's coming on in a couple of weeks, I think. 294 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:56,400 I may, we'll guess that coordinated, but yeah, buddy. 295 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,840 If you didn't get my LinkedIn message, it's on LinkedIn. 296 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:00,240 You got the link. 297 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,520 So we did an interview with him in my hotel room. 298 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:07,800 I set up the podcast on the 36th floor overlooking the river and all that. 299 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:08,800 It was awesome. 300 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:09,800 It was awesome. 301 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:10,800 A couple of people in there. 302 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:12,480 He was one of those and I was like, man, this dude is so cool. 303 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,840 He's all about overcoming any type of adversities. 304 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:18,080 I mean, he's been through it and found some serious success. 305 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:19,280 So absolutely. 306 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:20,960 His energy is amazing. 307 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:21,960 Yes. 308 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:22,960 All right. 309 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:27,440 So what did you learn from your experience on this path that other visionaries, I mean, 310 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,080 like that you wish you had known that will help them on their way? 311 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:36,240 Yeah, there are so many things that I learned and that I keep learning. 312 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,440 It's almost like this question needs to be asked every week. 313 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:39,440 Yeah, right. 314 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:40,440 So here we go. 315 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:41,440 You've got, you've got a two minute. 316 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:43,440 You got to take it by yourself. 317 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,160 You know, but you're talking to your 20 year old, 25 year old. 318 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:47,320 I don't know how, how older are you? 319 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,360 You look like you might not be older than 25. 320 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:50,360 Oh, thank you. 321 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:52,120 I turn 37 in a month. 322 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:53,120 Wow. 323 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:54,120 Okay. 324 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:55,120 All right. 325 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:59,320 Well, some people have good skin genes and in their youth, I guess, or drink the right 326 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:00,320 herbal teas. 327 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,480 I don't know what you do, but that's another episode guys. 328 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:04,520 We'll get her on a podcast with a health coach. 329 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:06,800 You can borrow her for that too. 330 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:10,800 So what would you tell yourself at 25 years old, you had two minutes to tell yourself 331 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:11,800 something. 332 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:12,800 Oh my gosh. 333 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,880 I would tell myself to start a business right now. 334 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:17,960 Anything, just start something. 335 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:24,400 There's a quote that I like to use called J L F's, which the PG version is just launch 336 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:25,400 something. 337 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:32,040 I think the ability to create and launch, create and launch, create and launch and like 338 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:36,880 just have that muscle start to build at a young age. 339 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:38,120 Does it matter what it is? 340 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:41,320 Sell a PDF, sell photography. 341 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:48,080 That is an exercise in confidence and empowerment and knowing that you can create abundance and 342 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:49,880 energy for yourself. 343 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:54,360 And yeah, you can go ahead and do all the weird jobs that you did that led you nowhere. 344 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:56,600 That was valuable as well. 345 00:14:56,600 --> 00:15:03,440 But I do wish that I had begun my entrepreneurial journey much earlier and potentially saved 346 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:06,080 money by not going to college. 347 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:07,080 Well said. 348 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:08,920 It's a difficult subject. 349 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,440 That's one where that people love to be controversial with it. 350 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:13,200 I'm not the most controversial person. 351 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,320 I don't think, but if you weren't prepared for college, you don't, if you didn't know 352 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,960 how to network, you know, if you didn't know how to see the end goal of where you were 353 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,840 going with it, like you end up with a point three, three GPA. 354 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,600 Okay, we were there together. 355 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:30,760 So yeah, and you don't know what you don't know about that environment, that culture, 356 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:31,760 right? 357 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:35,560 So fortunately, I did not have the money to go through that process. 358 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:40,560 And nor was I going to get a grant or a scholarship after already ruining that experience. 359 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:44,400 So I didn't have to go through that process of figuring out the hard way that I was never 360 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:48,240 going to make it through that, that means of education. 361 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:49,840 So there's other ways to learn, right? 362 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:51,560 I learned that I wanted to be a business owner. 363 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:53,360 So I went and started working for business owners. 364 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:55,560 So like what a novel concept, right? 365 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:57,000 You want to learn about business? 366 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,680 Go work for some businesses and earn your keep. 367 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:00,680 Totally. 368 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:01,960 Learn the value of a dollar. 369 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,440 Learn what the ends of a business looks like. 370 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:05,440 Should I have kids? 371 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:09,800 And you'll say, you may go to college if you'd like, but you must travel and work first. 372 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:10,800 I like that. 373 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:11,800 Right? 374 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:12,800 Yep, I do. 375 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:13,800 I like that. 376 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:14,800 I hope my children as well. 377 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:15,960 I've got four. 378 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:20,760 And so I hope that they will learn as much as they can, you know, about the different 379 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:23,960 options they have while they're young so that they can explore that. 380 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:29,200 And if they, if we can put them in a position to where they're financially able to make 381 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:34,160 that decision, not based on a need, you know, but based on the discovery of life, like I 382 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:37,680 think that's one of the best positions we can put children in is where they're empowered 383 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:42,160 to make that decision as responsible adults, not saying, oh, I have the adult card now. 384 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:43,720 I should act like one. 385 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:44,720 And that was, that was me. 386 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:49,280 I should, I should, I should use all my adult freedoms because I have them now, but not 387 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:50,640 understand the consequences. 388 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:51,640 Right? 389 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:52,640 Absolutely. 390 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:54,160 I'm on my soapbox now. 391 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:55,880 I love it. 392 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:57,640 I mean, it's, it's true. 393 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:05,160 And we are all just still kids who are figuring life out until, until we die, right? 394 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:06,920 Nobody actually knows what they're doing. 395 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:07,920 Right. 396 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:08,920 I agree with that too. 397 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:09,920 And it's, it's funny. 398 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,200 People like Jackson, like, why are you talking to me like I'm a child? 399 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,200 I'm like, I'm a child. 400 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:15,360 Like, what do you mean? 401 00:17:15,360 --> 00:17:17,640 I, first of all, I have four little children. 402 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:19,640 I was like, so I'm constantly talking to them. 403 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:24,520 But second off, no, like I'm just, I'm, I'm inquisitive, you know, I like to play around. 404 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:28,720 I like to, you know, live with a, yeah, with that mindset of like, we're still trying to 405 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:29,720 figure things out. 406 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:32,040 It's weird how people lose sign of that. 407 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:33,040 I don't get it. 408 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:36,360 I think that's the, when we stop trying to progress and figure things out, like, if you 409 00:17:36,360 --> 00:17:40,880 think about how a baby learns how to walk and they are like pushing themselves to the 410 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:46,640 limit to like roll over and then crawl and they're exhausted and they're just trying 411 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,080 and they're feeling and they're trying and they're feeling and then they do it and then 412 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:50,080 they do it again. 413 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:53,720 And that's as humans, that's what we're supposed to do for the rest of our lives. 414 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:58,840 And it gets slower maybe, but I think when you stop doing that is, is sort of when you 415 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:02,760 start to become an adult and like, I don't want that. 416 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:04,560 I never want that for myself. 417 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:05,560 Right. 418 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:09,720 And you start learning to foresee the issue too, like doing things that others want you 419 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:13,920 to do rather than doing what you kind of know you need to do as a baby. 420 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,000 You know what you want and you know what you need, right? 421 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:21,320 You either need food, water or sleep, like, you know, and to explore and like then you 422 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,360 start doing it for other people's sake rather than your own. 423 00:18:24,360 --> 00:18:28,800 And if you get trapped in that, it can be a, it can lead to shackles. 424 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,560 I would say that, that are not necessarily your best interest. 425 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:33,320 So I want to go back to your group concept with this. 426 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:37,200 So you got, you got a couple of people who are going to consider doing, creating something 427 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:38,320 together, right? 428 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:42,200 And you could force that path and be like, okay, well, here's what we have to create. 429 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:45,600 But it sounds like you want to make him some space for discovering what does that look 430 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:46,600 like? 431 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,280 I call that the golden window of opportunity, by the way, you get four collaborators or 432 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:53,040 any collaborators, if we like decide to do something that I'm like, hold on, you and 433 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:57,360 I could start a plumbing company in Seattle and probably turn into a seven figure company 434 00:18:57,360 --> 00:19:00,080 within a matter of a couple of years, maybe faster. 435 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:04,800 But is that the right opportunity, you know, for us to really go down or should we wait 436 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:06,960 and assess how we go about that? 437 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:11,360 So how are you guys going to go about incubating the type of idea that is just going to come 438 00:19:11,360 --> 00:19:14,640 to you naturally or will there be like a collaboration process? 439 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:15,640 Teach us. 440 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:17,640 Yeah, that's a good one. 441 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:18,640 Oh man. 442 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:19,640 I'm under pressure. 443 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:21,000 But that's a great question. 444 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:27,680 And I feel like I've been in these types of groups in the past where you do force collaboration 445 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:31,720 and you're like, this is a group we'd be great together and we must do this thing. 446 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:33,680 And everybody's kind of excited about it. 447 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:38,760 And then as you like become more involved in the planning, maybe like, at least for me, 448 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:42,760 I remember feeling like, I don't think I want to do this anymore, but is it too late? 449 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:44,560 Like am I committed? 450 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:51,800 And you know, I think that approaching collaboration from a space of authenticity and just like 451 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:57,200 being very open minded and open lines of communication, if you're going to do, let's say a TED talk 452 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:01,520 together, and you want to, this is something that I've actually, I have a group that we're 453 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:03,160 looking to do that. 454 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:06,880 And people have come and gone within this group because at the, you know, everybody's like, 455 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,160 oh my God, a TED talk, sign me up. 456 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:10,160 I am so in. 457 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:14,720 And then, you know, the logistics, the actual commitment to planning and getting everything 458 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:15,720 set up. 459 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:17,240 Some people are like, oh my gosh, you know what? 460 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:20,920 I just, I don't think that I'm actually able to help with this or, you know, it doesn't 461 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:22,840 actually light me up in the way that I thought. 462 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:28,120 And the fact that they felt comfortable enough to express that meant everything to me because 463 00:20:28,120 --> 00:20:31,600 you don't want people feeling stuck in something that they don't want to be a part of. 464 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:36,380 So you know, that's important to me from here on out when it comes to collaboration. 465 00:20:36,380 --> 00:20:39,560 So the four of us are planning, you know, a few of us are traveling in the next few 466 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:40,560 weeks. 467 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:44,320 So we're just going to regroup and sort of check in, hold each other accountable to, 468 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:48,440 you know, the things that we spoke about at the event that we were going to do for our 469 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:51,840 own businesses and, and explore possibilities. 470 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:53,480 But that's really where we're at right now. 471 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,560 We don't have an idea per se. 472 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:57,520 We just really enjoyed each other. 473 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:02,960 And even if it just becomes like a great referral group or a network to share about each other's 474 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:06,120 businesses and spaces that we're a part of, then that's cool. 475 00:21:06,120 --> 00:21:12,360 And if it becomes a flight attendant leadership web design course, then that's cool too. 476 00:21:12,360 --> 00:21:13,360 Right. 477 00:21:13,360 --> 00:21:14,360 That's awesome. 478 00:21:14,360 --> 00:21:15,360 Cover the spectrum. 479 00:21:15,360 --> 00:21:16,760 Got your niche down. 480 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:17,760 Good. 481 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:18,760 Right. 482 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:19,760 Yes. 483 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:20,760 Exactly. 484 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:21,760 Target audience. 485 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:22,760 Right. 486 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:23,760 Okay. 487 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,280 So the how, how excited are you to come back to Texas? 488 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:27,280 Yay or nay? 489 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:28,280 Oh, so much yay. 490 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:29,280 Yeah, good. 491 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:30,760 I'm, you know, I'm a little biased here. 492 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,160 So I appreciate that. 493 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:34,160 Maybe there's some missing in it. 494 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:35,400 No, I'm just kidding. 495 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:41,120 So the next question with that, um, well, and the ops, actually the open invitation is 496 00:21:41,120 --> 00:21:47,320 one of my main goals for next year is to launch a new event called passion pro as part of 497 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,280 my program, passion pro.org. 498 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,120 I don't know if you know about this yet. 499 00:21:51,120 --> 00:21:52,120 Have you heard of this? 500 00:21:52,120 --> 00:21:53,120 No. 501 00:21:53,120 --> 00:21:54,120 Okay. 502 00:21:54,120 --> 00:21:55,640 When you get a chance, um, definitely check out passion pro.org. 503 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:57,120 It is not Jackson passion.org. 504 00:21:57,120 --> 00:21:59,120 It is not passion Jackson.org. 505 00:21:59,120 --> 00:22:00,480 This is not about me. 506 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:04,640 It's about a mission to bring people to a point where they can recognize and discover 507 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:09,240 their passions and find their ability to live fully on and on fine purpose in life. 508 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:14,440 So that said, it's going to draw a number of types of people, musicians, artists. 509 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,840 It's going to become something fun. 510 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:18,120 I'm a nurture at heart. 511 00:22:18,120 --> 00:22:19,120 That's my passion. 512 00:22:19,120 --> 00:22:20,120 I mean, I like to heal. 513 00:22:20,120 --> 00:22:21,120 That's not fun. 514 00:22:21,120 --> 00:22:22,360 I mean, people don't get excited about that. 515 00:22:22,360 --> 00:22:23,360 I do. 516 00:22:23,360 --> 00:22:28,040 Um, but that said, I would love for you guys to be included in the process of potentially 517 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:32,840 planning where that goes because from your journal that we were looking at the PDF, I 518 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:36,720 mean, if you, if you happen to have that, I'd love to pull that up, um, to just the, 519 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:41,120 the genuine nature, um, in which you show up, I can see that your passions, your purpose 520 00:22:41,120 --> 00:22:45,440 are super well aligned and you, you emulate what I'm trying to help people strive to become 521 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:46,440 in life. 522 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:47,440 Amazing. 523 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,440 I have chills and yeah, I love this so much. 524 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,280 By the way, this page, very cool. 525 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:53,720 Oh, the passion for one. 526 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:54,720 Designer's perspective. 527 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:55,720 Uh, yeah. 528 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:56,720 Yeah. 529 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:57,720 They're fun. 530 00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:58,720 I am an awful designer, by the way. 531 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:00,240 I don't design my team. 532 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:01,720 That is all the design. 533 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,160 I write and sometimes when I write is good. 534 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:05,160 So I love it. 535 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,280 I mean, you've, it's gotten you this far. 536 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:08,280 That's right. 537 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:09,280 That's right. 538 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:10,280 So all right. 539 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,880 So now we've got, we've got your PDF pulled up and this reminds me a lot of like a mastery 540 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:19,000 journal like what John Lee Dumas has online entrepreneur on fire, big shout out, big fan. 541 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:24,200 We did run the ads, the YouTube ads for his Kickstarter when he launched it at video power. 542 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:28,320 But I'm loving this because this is free and it's got a lot of similar concepts of great 543 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,000 principles that people can build on. 544 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:31,000 Can you tell us about it? 545 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:32,000 Absolutely. 546 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:37,880 So this is a process that I've done every week for probably seven years. 547 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:38,880 I've missed weeks. 548 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:44,240 I am a human, but it definitely, thank you. 549 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:45,720 No, bro bots here. 550 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:51,240 Um, this was designed to keep you in alignment with your goals and to allow your goals to 551 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:56,920 shift because I think a lot of times we set, you know, like New Year's resolutions or quarterly 552 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:01,680 goals and in the moment, the planning of that is so fun. 553 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:07,320 It's so expansive and it's so limitless and there's energy around that. 554 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:12,800 And that is energy that like if I could drink that in a bottle, that, you know, sign me 555 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,880 up, I'll, I'll pay millions of dollars for that. 556 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:20,280 And I wanted to find a way to capture that and keep it at the forefront of everything 557 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,120 that we do as much as possible. 558 00:24:23,120 --> 00:24:24,120 You are going to have challenge. 559 00:24:24,120 --> 00:24:25,760 You're going to have days that you feel like crap. 560 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:31,680 It's, you know, we're, again, we're human, but this is designed to continue to keep you 561 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:35,920 in alignment with the way that you want to be living, the things you want to achieve, 562 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:40,560 the ways that you want to spend your time or not spend your time, the things that will 563 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:45,360 actually get you closer to your vision and your goals. 564 00:24:45,360 --> 00:24:49,040 And it's designed and it's, it's broken up into two parts. 565 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:55,320 So the first part is called a big vision and that's like, you know, the classic magic 566 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:56,320 wand question. 567 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,480 Like, what do you want? 568 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:02,800 Like really, if you could have anything, if your business could be anything, if your 569 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,000 life could, if you could go anywhere, you know, what is that? 570 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:10,520 And from there, breaking it down, like, okay, cool, nobody says you can't have that. 571 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,400 So let's make it happen. 572 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:17,160 And every week you then check in against those goals to see, you know, what could I do this 573 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,240 week to get me closer to that? 574 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:21,800 How am I feeling? 575 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,640 What could I do to help me to feel better? 576 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,920 What are ways that I want, that I want to feel better, right? 577 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:34,040 And so just always having that awareness and creating new awareness around that and then 578 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:38,960 going back to that big vision as often as you want and not feeling like you have to 579 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:44,760 wait until, you know, January 1st of the next year to create this big new goal and resolution 580 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:49,840 for yourself because over the course of the year we change and our visions change and 581 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:54,280 our lifestyles change and what becomes important to us changes. 582 00:25:54,280 --> 00:26:01,880 And so allowing for that shift to feel okay and natural and readjusting and realigning 583 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:02,880 along the way. 584 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:08,120 So that's really, yeah, I could go on for a long time about this, but that's the gist. 585 00:26:08,120 --> 00:26:09,120 I love it. 586 00:26:09,120 --> 00:26:10,120 I love it. 587 00:26:10,120 --> 00:26:15,480 That's Rami Sethi of I Will Teach You To Be Rich.com has a great program on establishing 588 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,240 goals and healthy goals and mindset around it. 589 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:24,880 And you've reflected a lot of what he teaches in terms of like, you didn't fail the goal. 590 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:28,760 You set a goal to do something that you don't know how to accomplish, right? 591 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:29,960 That's outside of your reach. 592 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,960 That's why it's a goal, it's to get you to push yourself. 593 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:37,480 But you only, you know, I don't think there's a way to fail it, but if you can take that 594 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,160 goal and look at it and say, all right, what do I need to optimize? 595 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,000 What do I want to change in order to get to where I want to go? 596 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,440 Then those pivot points, they matter a lot. 597 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:47,440 So. 598 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:52,760 And I find the gratitude part of this is a way for us. 599 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,640 So let's say I want to, this happened to me. 600 00:26:55,640 --> 00:27:00,040 I want to have a web design company and I want to design websites because it's something 601 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,440 that I'm good at and, or I thought I was good at. 602 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,040 And so here I am, I'm launching this business. 603 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:10,600 And all of a sudden I'm like, whoa, I want to shift this and I want to pivot and that's 604 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,360 no longer my vision. 605 00:27:12,360 --> 00:27:15,560 Am I, am I no longer honoring that? 606 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,960 Am I giving up on the goal to have that as my business? 607 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:23,600 If I change it, and when we bring gratitude into that, we can say, here is everything 608 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,640 that brought me to where I am today. 609 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:34,040 And I'm so grateful that I had the experience of not loving being a web designer for every 610 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,720 single person that came through my door and I'd like to pivot. 611 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:38,880 I'd like to niche down. 612 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,760 I'd like to have a team, you know, whatever that looks like. 613 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:46,720 And it allows you to honor that part of your journey and your goals and your visions at 614 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,840 that time to be okay with the pivot. 615 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:50,840 Absolutely. 616 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:55,920 It's, I like, I coordinate it, correlate it with climbing the top to the top of a mountain. 617 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:56,920 Right. 618 00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,160 You, you want to get to that top of that mountain and then you get to the top and you look out 619 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,520 and you see there's all these other opportunities that are out there. 620 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:03,520 Right. 621 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,880 So then your vision or goal shifts, maybe you want to go to the ocean. 622 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,120 You know, maybe you want to go to the lake. 623 00:28:08,120 --> 00:28:10,280 There's lots of things that happen as you move on. 624 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:11,800 And so keeping an open mind to that. 625 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,760 If you can remember that's exactly how goals work too. 626 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,040 It's just not something you physically see. 627 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,000 Then you know, you can be grateful for that. 628 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:21,200 I'm, I love that. 629 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:25,520 It's, it's sad when people look back on their life and they, they see what they've done 630 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:29,720 to get to where they are and they feel negative about it. 631 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,720 It's like, well, you know, those, those things you can learn from if you choose. 632 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:41,600 So why, why is that important to you, Pua, that not only they, not to you, why is it 633 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:48,640 important to you that others find this and have this clarity of, of idea on this past 634 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:49,640 for themselves? 635 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:50,640 Why does that matter to you? 636 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:51,640 Yeah. 637 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,160 I mean, I, I believe in energy. 638 00:28:54,160 --> 00:29:01,000 I believe in sort of a collective vibration of humanity and I don't know, take it or leave 639 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:02,000 it. 640 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:11,160 But the more people that we can encourage to feel good, to feel energized, to feel fulfilled, 641 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:15,920 I think the more people are going to create and we are all creative beings. 642 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:23,000 Like I think that's just human nature and to allow ourselves to feel expansive enough 643 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:28,920 to create, to feel confident enough to put our creations out into the world in whatever 644 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:35,960 form that is music, innovation, coming up with like a new idea lunch truck. 645 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:42,120 Like I, it doesn't matter what it is, but there's, there's enthusiasm, there's confidence, 646 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:48,880 there's energy in feeling gratitude and knowing that what you're doing every day matters and 647 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:55,600 that ripple effect that you can have on, you know, everybody that you come in contact with, 648 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,560 it's priceless and it's, it's free. 649 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:03,640 It's just energy and all we have to do is tap into that and share it. 650 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:10,000 So that's, I know this is like so intangible, but I think that that's the effect that this 651 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,240 kind of work can have. 652 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,400 I think it's tangible to those who hear it, right? 653 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:19,120 To those who, who can feel it, you know, like there's people who won't be able to, but those 654 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:23,440 who can know exactly what you're talking about and it validates that reality. 655 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:29,680 So yeah, I'm going to go even more intangible than where is there a time in your life that 656 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:34,000 you can remember where you discovered that, right, where you realized, oh my gosh, there's 657 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:35,000 this energy that exists. 658 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,680 I want to, I want to feel it, I want to distribute it, I want to be part of it. 659 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,760 What's the story of when, like, when you found this? 660 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,080 Yeah, that's a great question. 661 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,680 I think that I discovered it early on. 662 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:54,240 I was like, you know, the, the high schooler who was the counselor for camps that the school 663 00:30:54,240 --> 00:31:03,680 would put on, I, I was often involved in like group activities where the whole point of 664 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:09,160 it was to sort of tap into our creativity. 665 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:16,360 I led fitness classes and even there, like being able to take people's energy, they come 666 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,360 in from all walks of life. 667 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,440 Like, was this because you were a natural born leader? 668 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,720 Or was this, is there something else that? 669 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,040 I don't know. 670 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:27,040 I don't know. 671 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:35,680 And I, I've been told that and I don't, I don't necessarily like identify with that 672 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,120 on the inside, but I see it happening. 673 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,400 So I, it might be true. 674 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:47,400 But yeah, it was, it was when I started teaching fitness classes and that that actually was 675 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:52,640 the catalyst to starting a business with one of my friends from the gym. 676 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:58,960 But I realized that I could shift energy and that people could come in tired after work 677 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:04,000 or they just gotten to fight with their kids or they just don't feel like being there and 678 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:09,880 they just have to get themselves in the door, connect with the people around them and work 679 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:16,200 in this shared space with great music and high fives and they're, they may have to go 680 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,840 back home to whatever it is that they're dealing with. 681 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:23,240 But for that hour, their energy could be shifted. 682 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:28,680 And there are like a fitness class is one fixed example of how we as individuals can 683 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:33,720 affect an energetic shift in a big group and that ripple effect can go on. 684 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:38,240 So if you start your day at the gym and you, you know, you have a great class and you see 685 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:44,400 your friends and you go off to work, your perspective as you handle, you know, challenges 686 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:49,920 or dynamics of certain groups or whatever can be drastically different than if you roll 687 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:55,120 out of bed feeling like crap, you know, you don't move your body, there's no meditation, 688 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:59,200 there's no breathing, you just kind of roll into everything by default and just go, you 689 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:04,560 know, there's, it's, it's a much different way to approach the same situation. 690 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:08,000 So I don't know, I think that's sort of where that started. 691 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:09,000 I got you. 692 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,200 I've got improvements to make there. 693 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:15,440 My exercise, I do one sit up in the morning. 694 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,760 And if I had a bed, yeah, that's an important one. 695 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,760 I sit up for the day. 696 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,280 Sometimes I roll over on my side though, so I don't have to do it. 697 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,320 But that's, some people can't do that. 698 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:34,720 So, you know, but yeah, no, I need to, I need to get past the whole like skinny, fat stage 699 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,200 of life at some point. 700 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,000 So it's people like you that will inspire that. 701 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,640 You know, it's like, all right, it's going to be your fault someday when I'm actually 702 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:48,080 in shape and I can be like, all right, it was Pua and Dr. Yates and Jaime and Sebastian 703 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:52,000 who all told me, come on, Jackson, let's get Dean get this together. 704 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:56,480 So thank you for continuing to try to knock on that door for me. 705 00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:00,080 Any of you other people who don't like to work out out there, we can relate the ones 706 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:05,120 who, who do, you know, like someday please inspire me. 707 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:06,200 I'll figure it out. 708 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:12,720 So quick question, switching gears completely back to Rebel Media and what you do at Rebel 709 00:34:12,720 --> 00:34:17,920 Media with the company, do you guys have an irresistible high ticket offer that you're 710 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:19,440 able to introduce it today? 711 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:20,440 Yeah? 712 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:21,440 All right, we'd love to. 713 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:22,440 Irresistible, yes. 714 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:23,440 What is it? 715 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:24,440 What do you got? 716 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:25,440 What do you do? 717 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:35,440 So we do, my, my passion within this business is to create ecosystems where you can just 718 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:39,640 have a space to serve your clients at wherever they're at. 719 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:45,000 And so it's very much like Brennan Bershard's sort of the path that he walked us through 720 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,120 in his four simple slides. 721 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:54,160 You know, you have a free, something free, a podcast, a YouTube channel, something of 722 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:55,160 value. 723 00:34:55,160 --> 00:35:02,680 And I believe so strongly in providing value and a way for people to access your unique 724 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:08,840 brilliance wherever they're at and allow them to explore the ecosystem on their terms. 725 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:09,840 Right? 726 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:11,960 So you've got the free value. 727 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,960 It could be a download, you know, whatever that looks like. 728 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,760 Then there's the low ticket, whatever that looks like, right? 729 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:23,240 And I love the way that Brennan Bershard had like the $7 to the $49 to the $297 to the 730 00:35:23,240 --> 00:35:26,160 thousand or, you know, 10,000. 731 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,640 That's the strategy that we work with our clients. 732 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,400 So you're referring to something like this, correct? 733 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:32,840 Yes. 734 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,480 Absolutely. 735 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:38,240 And everyone should have this. 736 00:35:38,240 --> 00:35:39,800 And I think everyone can. 737 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:43,600 And to be honest, most people already have this. 738 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,200 It's just all separate. 739 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,640 And they don't realize that they could bring it together. 740 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,200 That's right. 741 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:54,640 Our big irresistible offer is we set the entire ecosystem up for you. 742 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,080 So it's your website. 743 00:35:56,080 --> 00:36:00,320 It's creating and branding and designing your course experiences. 744 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:04,880 And I call them course experiences rather than just courses because you're selling an 745 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,040 experience and you're selling a transformation. 746 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:12,920 And so we, there's a lot of strategy that goes into it, but we do the heavy lifting 747 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:17,240 and you get to just share your dreams and your visions with us. 748 00:36:17,240 --> 00:36:20,160 So we'll do that, you know, set up the automations. 749 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:25,360 And I like to call it the all inclusive package because I want to include everything that's 750 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:30,240 important to you and every single business is completely unique. 751 00:36:30,240 --> 00:36:33,520 So there's no way that I can say like, here's what you get. 752 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:38,920 You get five website pages and you get this one course and this one funnel. 753 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:44,520 Like it's, it's going to be what you need to create that experience for your customers. 754 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,960 And it is high ticket and it is totally worth it. 755 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:49,120 Hi, May. 756 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,120 What company does this sound like? 757 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,120 You're welcome to come on. 758 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:57,040 Everybody's like, hi, May, come on, buddy. 759 00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:58,040 Let's hear it. 760 00:36:58,040 --> 00:36:59,440 Oh, you're muted. 761 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:00,440 I'm muted, my friend. 762 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:01,440 I am. 763 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:05,040 Yeah, it sounds, sounds very familiar. 764 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,040 You almost did my exact pitch. 765 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:14,000 Oh, well, we should totally be referral partners because I didn't believe in competition. 766 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:15,000 No, I agree. 767 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,720 No, no, I love it, but it's, I'm saying like you validate what we're, what we do. 768 00:37:18,720 --> 00:37:22,720 I mean, it's funny because there's so many people who, you know, when you're training 769 00:37:22,720 --> 00:37:25,080 people on this process as well, it's like, what? 770 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:29,320 I mean, I like when you're trying to help people's mindset shift on it. 771 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:33,480 We need a lot of people involved in the process. 772 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:37,840 And the budget, you know, is a big part of what determines the scope of work, but also 773 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,240 the assets that exist. 774 00:37:39,240 --> 00:37:40,240 Right? 775 00:37:40,240 --> 00:37:44,760 If, if they've got strengths that we didn't know going into it, then why in the world 776 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:49,400 would we give them a second right arm if they've already got a right arm and they don't have 777 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:50,880 a left arm. 778 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:57,760 So we look at it from a, I always say we try to approach our situation like heart surgeons. 779 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,480 We don't just, you know, you go to the doctor, you're going to fill out this paperwork, you 780 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,000 don't want to fill out. 781 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:06,680 You go to the surgeon, you're going to fill out three times as much paperwork. 782 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:11,680 And we have to do all sorts of discovery to make sure that we are building what your vision 783 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:13,760 entails, not our vision. 784 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:17,480 So we have, we have some major collab to do in the future. 785 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,520 This is, this is really refreshing. 786 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,840 I'm like so happy right now. 787 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:22,920 Yay. 788 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:24,960 That's totally reassuring for me too. 789 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:28,040 Sometimes I'm like, should I just make this a thing? 790 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,240 It's a little hard to explain. 791 00:38:30,240 --> 00:38:32,640 And if I just, you know, here's what you get. 792 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:36,400 You submit this form, we pop this out for you and then you can be on your way. 793 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,520 And that feels like a red ocean. 794 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:40,520 Yeah. 795 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:41,520 Yeah. 796 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,480 Oh, you know what it is. 797 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:44,480 It is. 798 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:50,880 And there's, there's certain elements of the business growth that, that require, you 799 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:52,160 know, commonality, right? 800 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,240 A sense of commonality, what was, what exists. 801 00:38:54,240 --> 00:39:00,440 But if a business owner, if you were to go right now to McKinsey and company or Bain 802 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:06,240 Capital, you know, one of the big providers or any bank, right, to get a business loan, 803 00:39:06,240 --> 00:39:11,000 they're going to ask for a ton of information from you and a ton of money. 804 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:12,000 Right. 805 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,160 If you're not going, if you're going to the bank, they're going to, they're going to 806 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:15,480 get you on the interest. 807 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:16,480 Right. 808 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,800 They just need you to pass the tests in order to get loan you the money. 809 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,400 They really don't care if you know how to operate that business or not. 810 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,280 You just got to jump to all these hoops. 811 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:29,040 But if you're going to go to the super, super big dogs, Deloitte's, and actually get business 812 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:34,960 help, you're going to pay a whole bunch of money on the front end for the strategic assessments 813 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,560 that are needed to make sure, and we're the venture capitalists, same thing. 814 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:38,560 Yeah. 815 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:39,560 We're going to do them a whole bunch. 816 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:44,680 And those entities, you know, there's a reason why they have a very large price tag. 817 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:48,600 That's the reason why most people in our space don't even know how those businesses 818 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:49,600 work. 819 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:50,600 Yeah. 820 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,200 I think that that it's purposely confusing. 821 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:54,760 I think there is some elements to that. 822 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:58,840 But the good news is there are people like you and I, you know, that are putting these 823 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:03,120 formulas together and helping people catch the drift of, you know, let's, let's stop 824 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,240 looking at the mechanics, you know, let's stop looking at the tools. 825 00:40:06,240 --> 00:40:11,160 Let's start working with the right people on the right projects for the right reasons. 826 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:15,200 And that will allow us to build something that is sustainable and awesome. 827 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:19,760 So I'm really happy we hosted you and Rebel Media. 828 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,960 You know, the actual link to it, I'm just going to look up to you all one more time. 829 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,400 RBLmedia.co. 830 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:27,400 That's correct. 831 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:28,400 Right. 832 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:32,240 That's the one that's going to be probably RBLmedia.co. 833 00:40:32,240 --> 00:40:36,200 Definitely check out what Pua is up to on there and you can connect with them on Instagram 834 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:40,160 as well at RBL.media. 835 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:44,360 And yeah, if you've enjoyed this episode, then I can only imagine how much more in-depth 836 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,480 and how much more awesome the conversation with Pua would be one-on-one. 837 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:52,440 So vision pros, thanks for tuning in today and let us know in the comments what you appreciate 838 00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:53,440 about the show. 839 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:57,560 It's always helpful to know which guests you gravitate towards most, what things you'd 840 00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:58,560 like to know from us. 841 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,800 I'm sure Pua would be happy to add comments as well. 842 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,280 If you tag her and say, Hey, I'd like to know this from you. 843 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:04,920 Don't hesitate to do that. 844 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:06,400 Like, subscribe, comment. 845 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:10,960 You want more people to find this share, of course, and we will see you in the next episode. 846 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,680 Pua, anything you want to add before I wrap up? 847 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:14,680 JLS. 848 00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:16,680 Just launch something. 849 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:17,680 Vision pros, have a great day. 850 00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:18,680 We'll see you tomorrow. 851 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:46,680 Thank you for watching.