1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Alright, welcome in to Vision Pros Live. 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:10,000 I'm Jackson Callum, I'm your show host. 3 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:16,000 We'll be doing interviews for visionary entrepreneurs and guests, guest leaders who are building 4 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,000 fantastic visions out there. 5 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:22,000 Ultimately, I just want to go through some of the things that might help you with your 6 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:23,000 vision. 7 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:26,000 If you have a vision that you're pursuing, drop a link in the comments and let us know 8 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:27,000 what that is. 9 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:34,000 If you're a business or a brand, if it's a non-profit that you run, be happy to promote 10 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:37,000 it, be happy to talk to you about it, and if you'd like to apply to be on Vision Pros 11 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:59,000 and be interviewed about that vision, then by all means, feel free to reach out. 12 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:00,000 How are you? 13 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:01,000 How's your day going? 14 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:02,000 Pretty good. 15 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:03,000 How about yours? 16 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:04,000 Fantastic. 17 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:10,800 I'm going to go over your response to my question and my response to yours. 18 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:15,000 Just to give us context to reflect back on, I really liked your response a lot. 19 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,760 I've had a few, oh, probably not. 20 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:26,080 I've had about 150 responses from people on it, and it's been awesome to see the vast, 21 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:31,200 really the versatility of responses of different leaders, and it's been eye-opening. 22 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:32,720 I've learned a lot through the process. 23 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:33,720 That's all I can say. 24 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:36,480 I just learned a lot, and it's been really cool to learn so much. 25 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:37,480 Where are you based out of? 26 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:38,480 I'm in... 27 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:39,480 Okay, cool. 28 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:40,480 Yeah. 29 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:41,480 Where are you? 30 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:43,880 Is it snowing right now, or is it? 31 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:44,880 No. 32 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:45,880 It is going to... 33 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:50,320 The mountains are going to get slammed tonight about 10 to 12 inches, but down in the city, 34 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:51,320 we won't see. 35 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:52,320 We'll have rain. 36 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:53,320 It'll be fine. 37 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:54,320 Nice. 38 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:55,320 Yeah. 39 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:56,320 I'm in... 40 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:57,320 Fantastic. 41 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,400 So, have you been down here? 42 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:01,400 My husband's from... 43 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:03,280 Oh, that's my home. 44 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,680 And my in-laws are all in... 45 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:06,680 Yeah. 46 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:07,680 So... 47 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:08,680 Okay, cool. 48 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:10,000 I got a sister up there as well. 49 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:11,000 That's awesome. 50 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,120 So, yeah, I appreciate you coming on. 51 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:17,360 I definitely want to explore this topic a bit further. 52 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:23,480 I'm going to just reread your response to give myself full proper context again, and 53 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:27,320 then what I said from there, and then we can dive in on that. 54 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,160 I'm not in a work culture, so I can't really speak to this. 55 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,880 I would say I'm working with clients that toxic positivity. 56 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:39,480 They need to appear outwardly positive when feeling otherwise has increased and that pressure 57 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:41,880 can create hopelessness. 58 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:46,320 I was just talking about this yesterday with somebody that brought it up. 59 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:51,560 I think there's a space to acknowledge the more challenging feelings and use empathy 60 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:55,360 to fulcrum into a more positive and healthy workplace. 61 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:59,640 It just takes effort and focus on behalf of leadership, and they are often barely keeping 62 00:02:59,640 --> 00:03:01,640 above water with change management. 63 00:03:01,640 --> 00:03:05,920 I believe that slowing down is sometimes the best way to speed up overall, and often that 64 00:03:05,920 --> 00:03:11,120 slowdown is seen as failure or as approached with fear, unfortunately. 65 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,800 So your thoughts on hopelessness and empathy are piercing. 66 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:15,280 Would you be out for either the meeting? 67 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:16,560 I would greatly appreciate it. 68 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,760 I know my audience is a benefit tremendously for unpacking this. 69 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:20,840 Yes. 70 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:24,680 So thank you for letting me just get this deeper into my heart and mind. 71 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:26,840 And yeah, I don't think they're aware of where to help. 72 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,160 So you said something interesting to start off. 73 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,240 You said I'm not in a work culture. 74 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:32,240 What do you mean by that? 75 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:36,200 Well, I'm what I call a slasher, right? 76 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:39,040 I'm a creative and a consultant. 77 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:42,600 So I don't go to a work culture every day. 78 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:48,400 I don't go, and even beyond that, because I know now with people working remotely, not 79 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:55,760 everybody is going to a work culture, but I don't really answer to staff or leadership 80 00:03:55,760 --> 00:04:00,280 in the same way that someone who is a part of a company culture does. 81 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:07,200 And so in that, there's a great space for being able to sort of have the outside, you 82 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:08,840 know, Hawkeye looking in. 83 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:16,960 And then there's also a, I don't understand entirely what that may look or feel for many, 84 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:22,640 except for those who I work with, who I talk to, and help out as a consultant. 85 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,120 So I have a question for you. 86 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:26,560 Why do you do what you do? 87 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:27,560 What's your why? 88 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:28,560 What is my why? 89 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:33,640 It's funny because it depends on which part of me I'm such a, I'm so segmented as a creative. 90 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:34,640 I'm a storyteller. 91 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,520 I'm a director and producer of content. 92 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:41,120 And in that space, I believe story changes lives. 93 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:47,640 I think we are in a society now more than ever where we are constantly told to keep 94 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:51,800 moving forward, keep being productive, keep doing the things. 95 00:04:51,800 --> 00:05:00,080 And it is some, in some ways, shut down our capacity for feeling. 96 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:06,560 And so I think we as we feel through story, so it's okay to go to a movie and cry or laugh 97 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:14,360 or do those things, but it may not be as okay to do that in our work or home lives in the 98 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:15,640 same way. 99 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:22,360 So I believe we, through storytelling that I can, you know, just provide a salve to the 100 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:26,280 soul and it makes me, I don't know what else to do. 101 00:05:26,280 --> 00:05:28,840 Like it is the thing that I'm called to. 102 00:05:28,840 --> 00:05:33,000 And then you flip that and you talk about, you know, my company and my consulting work 103 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:38,080 and what, you know, we use improv as I work in applied improv. 104 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:43,440 So we use improv as a modality to essentially get people connected in the workplace and 105 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:50,960 having more productive conversations and being able to be vulnerable and use empathy and, 106 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:58,400 you know, be real and authentic in the moment and get to know one another so that we can 107 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:03,600 create trust and give and take and respect in the workplace. 108 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:08,760 And even though there are sort of different sides of the coin, they are very much still, 109 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:16,960 you know, connected in that through line of just being humans with one another and remembering 110 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:22,640 that we're humans and remembering we're all doing our best and trying to connect people 111 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:23,640 in those ways. 112 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:27,160 Do you see that there's a growing need for what you do in the market? 113 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:28,160 I think so. 114 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:29,880 I mean, here's the hard part about it. 115 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:31,160 I think there is a growing need. 116 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,920 I think there's been a need for it for decades. 117 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:39,360 I don't always think that leadership sees it that way. 118 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:45,320 And I don't know if they always see that it will help things grow. 119 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:49,280 It's, you know, what we do, especially when I'm in a console, we laugh a lot. 120 00:06:49,280 --> 00:06:54,720 I mean, like my entire, when I'm in a workshop where I'm working with people, we're laughing 121 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:56,240 the whole time. 122 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:59,360 And I think there's a fear that if you're laughing, you're not learning. 123 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:06,000 And I would offer the complete opposite that I think we learn the most when we're uncomfortable, 124 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:07,800 when we're laughing. 125 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:12,120 And you know, also sometimes when you're in, you know, in the boat and it's sinking together, 126 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:15,120 but we, that's not the kind of learning we've been into. 127 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:16,120 That's not the fun part of it. 128 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,200 You know, like that's the trauma part of it. 129 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:23,400 But I would argue that, you know, I've got people who will approach me years after taking 130 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,800 one workshop with me and say, I still do the thing. 131 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:28,920 I still do the thing that I learned. 132 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,640 And I think it's because we laugh together. 133 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:34,320 And it's a key component of what we do. 134 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:41,720 And it doesn't mean that we don't, you know, absolutely identify goals and talk through 135 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,280 things and make sure we're achieving those things. 136 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:50,600 But it is done in a space of absolute fun and laughter and setting people a little bit 137 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:54,160 off course, off of what they're, you know, when you're, when you're a little bit off 138 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:56,960 center, I think you discover a lot about yourself. 139 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:03,560 And by the way, leaders discover a ton about their teams when they watch them work through 140 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,040 something that might be a little uncomfortable. 141 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:11,960 And we learn a lot about how those teams function and how we can support them better that way. 142 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:15,680 I'm certain that the, I probably shouldn't have used that word. 143 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:24,160 I don't want to lead, but how much does a type of laughter weigh into your exercises? 144 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:25,160 And do you know what I mean by that? 145 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:26,160 Or do you want me to clarify? 146 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:27,640 I want you to clarify. 147 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:28,640 Okay. 148 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:33,640 I imagine just based on what I've learned about you and the empathy factor that we're 149 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:37,880 not talking about laughter based on cynicism, right? 150 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:44,640 Based on, on cruel roasting, the type of laughter that so many seek in this world. 151 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:45,640 Yeah. 152 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:47,120 Talk to me about the type of laughter you mean. 153 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:51,080 When you mean you're drawing laughter, I have a feeling it draws celebration and inspiration. 154 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:52,080 Yeah. 155 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:53,080 It's a connective laughter. 156 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:59,120 Like, you know, comedy is often, I'm a comedy writer. 157 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:00,120 That's what I do. 158 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:06,520 And so, and comedy is often comes out of those places where we see ourselves in the situation 159 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:08,040 that's happening before us. 160 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:13,880 So, you know, the first thing to do with a company is to create trust and, and then, 161 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,480 and then create this idea that we have to fail. 162 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:18,760 Like you're not innovating unless you're failing. 163 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:22,080 So we have to fail in one of, in front of one another. 164 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:24,080 We have to do it. 165 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,320 What I call struggle joyfully. 166 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:33,160 Struggling joyfully is a very different space to be in than when you're struggling in, for 167 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:34,160 real. 168 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:37,200 And, and that is all culture based, right? 169 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:42,160 Like, are we, do we feel safe to say something that maybe is kind of a crazy idea, but we 170 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:43,520 want to see how it hits. 171 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:48,880 Do we feel safe to have something that doesn't work, but let somebody else pick up that ball 172 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,200 and make it better? 173 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:57,120 Do we, can we laugh together because, you know, like we'll do an exercise called alphabet 174 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:02,880 and it's literally the alphabet, but almost every time someone will not do the right letter, 175 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:03,880 right? 176 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:07,040 And, and we had the end and we all sort of laugh and I go, now is someone going to point 177 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,520 the finger and be like, you didn't know the alphabet? 178 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:14,480 And I know, like it's just, we're going to so much about where improv comes from. 179 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:18,920 And what we do in that space of creating joy is there's a problem. 180 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:20,360 Let's fix it. 181 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:24,920 Let's all rush in and help fix this together as opposed to there is a problem. 182 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:29,800 It was you, you caused it, go sit in the corner and we're going to shame you about it. 183 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:31,760 It's not that we're on the same boat. 184 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:36,120 Like let's fix it and let's set each other up for success. 185 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:43,280 So that in that space of something going awry or there be, being laughter bubbling up, that 186 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:46,440 we all can come and play in that space. 187 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:48,760 And I'm a big proponent of play. 188 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:50,600 As adults, we don't play. 189 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:51,600 I don't play enough. 190 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:52,600 I need to play more. 191 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:53,600 We all need to play. 192 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:54,600 Yes. 193 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:56,000 I love it. 194 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:57,000 I love it. 195 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:58,000 All right. 196 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:05,480 So I obviously asked you for a meeting, but what was, what was the real goal? 197 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:08,840 Why, why, why did you choose to show up and honor my request? 198 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:14,200 Because I see a lot of people in pain, right? 199 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:15,200 I actually don't know. 200 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:16,200 It was a feeling. 201 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:17,200 It was intuition. 202 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,000 I follow my intuition a lot. 203 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:22,240 I feel very strongly about that. 204 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,960 And I don't always know why I say those things or not. 205 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:32,040 And I, and I say no to lots of things, but I, people are hurting right now. 206 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:38,160 And I think we're doing a disservice by not allowing them to share that in spaces. 207 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:43,360 And there's, you know, just because someone says, I'm, I'm struggling, I'm sad, I'm whatever, 208 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:47,600 doesn't mean that everything's collapsing and we can't do business and it's not, you 209 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:54,040 know, we as a, we are going through a lot of different recognings as a culture, both 210 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:58,280 in this country and worldwide, we've have collective trauma that we are not talking 211 00:11:58,280 --> 00:11:59,280 about. 212 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:05,840 And I, and I, you know, you see it like you see people's behind their eyes have sort of 213 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:07,920 shut down a bit. 214 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:13,920 And I think there's this just great need for saying, can we do things differently? 215 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:19,720 Can we shake up the status quo and, and approach our life? 216 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,880 You know, I used to always say like, I want to design my life, not my career. 217 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,560 My career is a part of my life, but I want to design my life. 218 00:12:25,560 --> 00:12:27,120 I want to be able to stay home with my kids. 219 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:28,680 I want to be able to do these things. 220 00:12:28,680 --> 00:12:32,640 And I think that's in, in this culture, I think sometimes that can be hard to say, I 221 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:36,760 really want to design my life first because your company wants you to be a big part of 222 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:37,880 that life. 223 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:42,880 But I think if we could take a step back and realize what people are aching for and the 224 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:49,160 authentic, the authenticity and the connection they're seeking from their work, that we would 225 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:53,280 create spaces where things are move faster, are more efficient, better. 226 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,160 I mean, talk about the proof. 227 00:12:55,160 --> 00:13:00,600 I mean, there's studies around empathy that say if you share empathy, doctors are, I was 228 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:04,280 a consultant for Kaiser Permanente for many years. 229 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:08,960 And it's like doctors are out of a room on average two to four minutes faster when they 230 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:10,160 employ empathy. 231 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:13,200 So it's not just like, hey, it's touchy feely and we should do it. 232 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:20,960 There are actual real efficiency reasons to employ some of these skills to connect with 233 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:22,480 people. 234 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:26,120 And to, you know, the productivity goes up there. 235 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:30,440 They stick, you know, we're not spending as much money on turnover. 236 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:35,880 But there are real reasons to work with care and empathy in the workspace. 237 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:38,120 But I don't see it happening really. 238 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:39,600 I mean, you know, it doesn't. 239 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:41,520 And it's, I'm a poster child. 240 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:48,040 I am not necessarily the most natural empathetic person in some ways. 241 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:56,280 But I had to learn it and it can be learned and it can be employed and it can really make 242 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:57,280 a difference. 243 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:01,920 And, and I think that's why I probably said yes, because I just feel like people meet, 244 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:02,920 people just need it. 245 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:03,920 They just need it. 246 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:04,920 I don't know what else to say. 247 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:09,800 They really just need it and leaders need to hear that it's, that there's a different 248 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:11,560 way of doing things. 249 00:14:11,560 --> 00:14:12,720 And that's okay. 250 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:16,080 And it's okay for them to not always know either, you know, 251 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:17,760 I'm honored by your intuition. 252 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:19,600 I'm glad that you own it. 253 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:21,040 I'm very glad that you own it. 254 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:24,520 A lot of people wouldn't, you know, they would, they would shy away from that. 255 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:25,520 That's amazing. 256 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:31,600 And it's, and my biased opinion, it's spot on. 257 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:37,320 One of my family therapists, when I was going through my first divorce, learned a lot of 258 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:41,160 hard lessons through that lessons I don't want to learn, but lessons that I'm grateful 259 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:42,600 for. 260 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,080 And he gave us this quiz. 261 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:46,560 I don't remember all the levels. 262 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:48,400 I remember there was four. 263 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:53,320 And I had the most unique score he's ever seen, because you're supposed to have a predominant 264 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:56,560 one, and then you're supposed to have a secondary one. 265 00:14:56,560 --> 00:15:01,040 And my predominant was a 100% score. 266 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:02,040 He'd never seen that. 267 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,760 And my 100% was healer. 268 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,960 That's what I gravitated towards on every question. 269 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:10,960 Like easily. 270 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:15,160 What was really strange for him, but not for me because I tend to do this on most, my 271 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:19,040 Briggs disc, et cetera, I died, just who I am. 272 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:21,760 My other three scores were all equal. 273 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:26,720 And so I'm a very self-aware and self-assured individual as well. 274 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:32,880 Both scored, those were my three, two of my top three traits on the Strengths Finder 2.0. 275 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,360 If you've ever taken that, if you haven't, it's amazing. 276 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,760 I took it a long time ago. 277 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:42,640 Because I take a lot of those tests, because a lot of my people I consult with will ask 278 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:43,640 me to. 279 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:44,640 Right. 280 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:45,640 But I am an ENTJ. 281 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:50,040 I'll tell you that, which is, I think people can sometimes be, well, if you know me, you're 282 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:53,040 not surprised, but some people don't be surprised by that. 283 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:54,040 Yeah. 284 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:55,040 No, no, no. 285 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,240 And we all have our human side too. 286 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,240 Our survival mode. 287 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:01,000 There's a lot to that. 288 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:04,160 But back to your intuition factor. 289 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:11,560 There's a lot of, I have a lot of personal background with growing companies and implementing 290 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,560 that healing nature in my companies. 291 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:19,880 And seeing how it impacts what we do, how it impacts my team, how it impacts my life. 292 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:25,360 And I feel on the way I feel and feel very self-assured with the reality that you're 293 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:26,360 right. 294 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:28,960 Your theory is very, very on point. 295 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,360 Do you know what percentage of businesses fail within 10 years? 296 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:32,880 Have you ever heard that stat? 297 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:39,440 I'm sure it's high and growing with the side hustle culture that we're involved with as 298 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:40,440 well. 299 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:41,440 It's true. 300 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:42,680 It might affect the growth on it. 301 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:44,760 It's 96%. 302 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:49,840 We celebrate a worldwide economy that has been one of the best economies in the world. 303 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:53,440 I also love that you are very particular about how you use hyperbole. 304 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:54,760 That also means a lot to me. 305 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:59,800 You were close to saying ever you cut yourself off and you went towards a healthy word in 306 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:06,560 a society that throws it in our face so often that it's very difficult not to fall in and 307 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:07,720 think and feel that way. 308 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,760 So this is a lot about your wisdom and leadership. 309 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:12,320 Yeah, 96%. 310 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:17,440 And I look at that and I just think, how can we celebrate as a world or as a country with 311 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,560 a 4% success rate? 312 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:23,320 That would not be acceptable in any school in the nation. 313 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:27,600 And yet for business owners, for whatever reason, doesn't matter why. 314 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,920 What matters to me is how do we fix the formulas? 315 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:34,960 What are the formulas that we should be following because it is a math equation at the end of 316 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:35,960 the day? 317 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,280 There are, you put certain things together. 318 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:40,040 You put happiness and joy together. 319 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:42,960 You get a certain outcome. 320 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,160 You put guilt and shame together. 321 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,360 You get a certain outcome. 322 00:17:47,360 --> 00:17:58,280 You mix hope with subordination or in slavery and you get a certain outcome. 323 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:03,520 There's a reaction that will occur in those situations and those equations that is not 324 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:05,120 always predictable. 325 00:18:05,120 --> 00:18:11,480 And depending on the level, the amount of each, it determines what type of outcome. 326 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:15,480 And I'm not saying people are pre-programmed, but there's a certain predictability to the 327 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:16,480 experience. 328 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:20,360 How you walk up to people, how you approach people, et cetera. 329 00:18:20,360 --> 00:18:24,400 Seven of my eight startups that are more than 10 years old are in business today. 330 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:26,720 That's an 87% track record. 331 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:28,200 Some of that, it's not statistics. 332 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:32,480 I need 800, 8,000 before that really matters. 333 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,040 I'm also very selective about who I work with. 334 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:39,040 So there are some variables, but I know how to pick my winners too. 335 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,880 A lot of it has to do with making sure that I pick the winners. 336 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:46,320 And it's actually quite dependable, that particular formula. 337 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:49,760 That said, I do a podcast that I'd love to have you on. 338 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,160 I'm going to get your voice out there. 339 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:53,680 There's two questions I want to go towards. 340 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:55,760 I know we're running out of time. 341 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:57,920 You said what I meant to do. 342 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:01,040 My next question for you is, why do you care? 343 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:02,440 Why do I care? 344 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:07,440 You mentioned the externals, right, of how this helps people, what it can do for society, 345 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:08,440 et cetera. 346 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:13,760 So more pointedly, why do you, Krista, and is it Gano or Gano? 347 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:14,760 Gano, yes. 348 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:15,880 Krista Gano. 349 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:20,040 Why do you personally care? 350 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:24,240 I mean, I think that, actually, how do you not care? 351 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:25,680 That's a hard question. 352 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:26,680 How do you not care? 353 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:27,920 I think I'm an empath. 354 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:34,920 So I think that when I see pain around me, I can't help but care because I feel it and 355 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:41,240 it becomes something that I want to help and guide and relieve. 356 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,000 Do you know where that came from? 357 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:45,360 You could go back into a lot of things. 358 00:19:45,360 --> 00:19:53,920 I'm a firstborn child of a large mixed family with lots of divorce and other things that 359 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:59,840 put me into a place of definitely needing to figure out what's the energy that's happening 360 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:05,800 in the room and how to manipulate it, mitigate it, help it along. 361 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:06,800 For sure. 362 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:11,040 I mean, I think that there's a lot in that childhood space that creates some of that. 363 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:17,920 I mean, I came up as an artist and as an actor, which, I mean, if you're an actor, human, 364 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:24,000 you should be fascinated with the way we function as humans and what our tells are and what 365 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:25,000 happens. 366 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,360 I mean, that's the whole point of getting into a character and then launching that into 367 00:20:28,360 --> 00:20:30,360 storytelling. 368 00:20:30,360 --> 00:20:37,720 So I mean, I also think I have what I would call woman of faith. 369 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:43,200 And I was listening to somebody talk the other day about the difference between being the 370 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:49,640 type of person who is trying to do good to secure your space in heaven versus the type 371 00:20:49,640 --> 00:21:00,160 of person who tries to make this space, our earth, a place that is worthy of God to be 372 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,360 proud of the work you've done or who you are here. 373 00:21:03,360 --> 00:21:10,440 And I definitely subscribe, not that heaven doesn't sound great, I would love to jam up 374 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:11,440 there. 375 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:16,880 But I mean, I think we're here, we're here for purpose, we're here to love one another, 376 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:24,400 be kind, help and try to take the gifts that have been bestowed on us and make them better 377 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,120 and there for the next people. 378 00:21:27,120 --> 00:21:33,320 And we've done some damage in the past few generations of like partially because we've 379 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:37,920 got, you know, you don't know, you do better when you know better, but we've done some 380 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,840 damage and there's work to be done. 381 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:44,120 And it's rough. 382 00:21:44,120 --> 00:21:45,120 It's rough right now. 383 00:21:45,120 --> 00:21:48,760 And I think a lot of us have reached a place where we just don't know what to do next. 384 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:52,960 And I guess I don't think I can make some massive difference necessarily, but if I could make 385 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:58,440 any difference, for me that feels purposeful. 386 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,400 So I don't know if that answers the question. 387 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:01,400 And I guess that's true. 388 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:02,400 And it's your answer. 389 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,480 Yeah, I don't know how else to, I don't know how to function in the world. 390 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:07,880 I believe it does. 391 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:08,880 And yeah, I love it. 392 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:09,880 It's beautiful. 393 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:10,880 It was helpful to me. 394 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:15,400 If it was helpful to me, then I hope you accept it with grace that it was impactful. 395 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:16,400 Oh, good. 396 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:17,400 Thank you. 397 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:21,760 You know, and that's, I think it's also helpful when we learn not to pull that away from God. 398 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:22,760 Yeah. 399 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:26,000 You know, as we testify, right? 400 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:27,000 Yeah, I know. 401 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:31,000 It's like, it has to, we have to, at some point you got to do what you're called to 402 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:34,800 and, and, and there's a lot of need. 403 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:39,400 So as for as many people who can be called to help even in every teeny little small way 404 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:43,080 possible, we should all be leaning and stepping in with bigger. 405 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:44,080 Yeah. 406 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:45,080 I thought you said bigger. 407 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:46,080 You said bigger. 408 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:47,080 Bigger. 409 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,080 It's another word coming in. 410 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:50,080 It's an adjective. 411 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:51,080 Oh, wait, no, it's bigger. 412 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:52,080 She's smart. 413 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,080 She has big words. 414 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:59,240 So, well, great. 415 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:00,240 Vision wise. 416 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:06,520 I mean, it's again, I, what I hear is not necessarily what I understand, which is why 417 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,480 I kind of repeat similar questions. 418 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:09,480 They're good. 419 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,480 What's your vision? 420 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,600 What's your vision for? 421 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:19,400 You mentioned we have this mantle that to possibly take on from God that we, you know, 422 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,960 that people in this world need this, that we may have roles. 423 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:28,760 I personally thought of Jonah, you know, and Nineveh and is, you know, moving away from 424 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:34,200 it, I've done that many times in my life and found myself also sometimes back into that 425 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:35,200 role. 426 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,600 What's, you know, what's your role? 427 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,800 Do you know how, how big that is? 428 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:45,160 Have you considered what, what your dedication level will be to this? 429 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:46,960 Hey, let me, let me frame that with. 430 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:50,880 This is where you're going to end up coaching me because I know my answer and I, and I'm 431 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:52,960 going to frame it one way first. 432 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:58,720 And that's one of my clients in the past is a local dentist and they wanted to explain 433 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,680 their practice, have a couple of dentists underneath their belt, do their trips to Guatemala 434 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:08,000 where they go and do free dentistry twice a year and take goods with them and have their, 435 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:09,840 their impact in their local community. 436 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,000 Beautiful, fantastic, lovely vision. 437 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,960 I have no right to challenge that. 438 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,160 No right to say you should be the biggest visionary in the world, our biggest dentist 439 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:19,160 in the world. 440 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:20,400 No right to tell them to go franchise. 441 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,280 No, it's not my vision. 442 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:23,960 That's not what I do anymore. 443 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,240 I used to be that guy. 444 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:32,040 And those are other stories for another day, but I did learn to follow my savior much 445 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,800 more openly and realize that he only led through invitations. 446 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:36,800 That was it. 447 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,160 Never pressure, never coercion, only invitations. 448 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,880 And I strive really hard to stay true to that. 449 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:46,640 So with visions, it doesn't matter if somebody's vision to me is I want to be a stay at home 450 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,400 mom and I know that's what I'm supposed to do. 451 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:49,960 That's beautiful and amazing. 452 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:51,640 And the world shouldn't take that away from them. 453 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:56,160 On the flip side, if somebody wants to be an Elon Musk or a Mark Zuckerberg and they 454 00:24:56,160 --> 00:25:00,240 know that they're meant to bless billions of people, they don't go out there not saying 455 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:01,240 those to do it. 456 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:02,240 I don't know. 457 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:03,240 I'm not close enough. 458 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:04,240 I'm not God. 459 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:08,920 But it's my role to support the visionary on their vision. 460 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:13,480 So long as the vision is ethical and virtuous and I'm in line with it, I'm here to support, 461 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,560 facilitate, inspire on that. 462 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,880 That requires that you define your vision on me. 463 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:19,120 What does your vision look like? 464 00:25:19,120 --> 00:25:23,080 So again, this is where I probably have two different visions. 465 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,280 You have five, 10 minutes. 466 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:26,280 Yeah, I do. 467 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,160 If you do, I do. 468 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:29,760 I have an extra 15. 469 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,080 Yeah, I'm good. 470 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:37,680 So I would say that I have, I have two parts of my soul that are that are always have always 471 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,840 been sort of battling within my within my career. 472 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:48,520 And one is the creative, the person who has been working for literally nine years to get 473 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:54,880 a film made that is about a family who's moving on after the dad dies by suicide. 474 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,760 And it's, it's about the family and it's about faith and it's about some other things that 475 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:03,080 I've been working on this film for so long and I'm slated to direct it. 476 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,880 And it got, it was supposed to be actually in production right now and it got pushed 477 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:07,000 to the fall. 478 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:13,400 So that for me is an absolute passion project that I have said a lot, have sacrificed a 479 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:17,000 lot to continue to try to get that done. 480 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:18,200 And we're with great partners. 481 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:23,680 We as a partner, we've got as a partner, like we've got great partners. 482 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:29,960 So that is one part of my sole purpose, I believe in telling stories. 483 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,440 And, and then I've got some scripts I wrote as well. 484 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:38,960 And then I've got my, my consulting, which I have to say, I love the other part of your 485 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:39,960 soul. 486 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:40,960 Yes, okay. 487 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:45,480 They're part of the soul that loves to get in and just help people and last with them 488 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:51,360 and, and help them, you know, figure out how to communicate in ways that are more productive 489 00:26:51,360 --> 00:26:54,480 with and make their days better. 490 00:26:54,480 --> 00:27:00,400 And, you know, and that's what we do with innovative improv solutions is we, we've worked 491 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:06,160 with every, we've worked with a lot of Fortune 500 companies, but we've, that has always 492 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:11,720 been sort of the part time gig to support the art, right. 493 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:18,000 And we've, we've really relied on word of mouth and, and we haven't, you know, we haven't 494 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,080 gone out there to try to like build the business. 495 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:25,560 My business partner in that venture is an actor as a working actor and does very well. 496 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:30,000 And so we've had, I've had these two sides of my brain that have functioned and that 497 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,480 business that we started that business 16 years ago. 498 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,240 So we've been in business doing that for a long time. 499 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:41,240 And, and we're, and we're different than other applied improv or companies is that we don't 500 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:42,240 do trust building. 501 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,320 Like there's, you know, you'll go to second, I'm, I used to be the executive director of 502 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:46,320 the groundlings. 503 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,400 I don't know if you know who they are. 504 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,320 They're like second city, but in Los Angeles. 505 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:55,880 So about traditionally about half of Saturday Night Live, the cast and writers have come 506 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:57,400 out of the groundlings. 507 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:02,080 And that's what I did before I went out on my own. 508 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:06,880 And so I come from a space of laughter and comedy and helping artists. 509 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:11,480 I have, I have another very small niche company that I, that I'm just now shutting down because 510 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:18,440 I don't feel called to it anymore, which was to help artists move from understand the professional 511 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:22,720 landscape and move from being hobbyists into professionals. 512 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:27,280 And it's, I guess what I'm saying all of this to you, thank you for being my coach and mentor 513 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:32,320 in the moment is that I, I hit 50 and I know I don't look it. 514 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:33,720 And I look 50. 515 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:34,720 That's not fair. 516 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:39,400 But I hit 50 and I had this and also the pandemic. 517 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:44,240 And I had this moment where I realized I was, I was giving so much coaching and so much 518 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:49,200 of my energy and wisdom to other people that I was not, I was not chasing my dream, which 519 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,440 is this getting this film made. 520 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:56,800 And so I started to shut some things down that I was doing because I, you know, I had 521 00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:00,400 somebody come up and go like, well, you've had so much, you've had so much experience 522 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:01,640 in the entertainment industry. 523 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:05,880 We all want, we all want you to coach us and I was like, Oh, okay, well, okay. 524 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,720 And there was a lot of me just giving a lot out. 525 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:16,480 And when COVID hit, my writing partner and I wrote four scripts. 526 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:22,160 And it was one of those aha moments of like, Oh, when I give so much of myself to others 527 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:27,000 to coach them up, you may have had something similar happen with you as well. 528 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:31,400 I'm not doing the thing that I feel like God put me on the planet for. 529 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:38,840 And I need to figure out a way to do, to just understand my own energy and what I'm able 530 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:43,080 to do and give and make sure there's still left for my family and my faith and other 531 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:44,080 things. 532 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:49,600 And so I started shutting down working artist group, which was another side company I had. 533 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:53,840 It still exists in some capacity and I do some a little bit of work group, but I'm not 534 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,760 really pushing it any longer. 535 00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:00,360 And innovative improv is something that I delight in. 536 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:07,760 I love going and working in companies and having people who have really been struggling 537 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:13,240 in some, with some communication with one another, like figure it out and be able to 538 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:14,240 work together. 539 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,200 And like that stuff excites me. 540 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,200 So that energizes me and that tells me that I should be there. 541 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:25,120 And then my film, which, you know, well, hopefully we will be in production in October, that 542 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,560 is something that not only lights me up. 543 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:32,360 I feel like it's a soul's purpose and it's a bucket list item at this point. 544 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:33,720 Like it's got to just get done. 545 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:34,720 We are so close. 546 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,560 Like you got to just get it done. 547 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:44,840 And so that's, that's sort of where I am right now in the career circles of trying to figure 548 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:45,920 out. 549 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,640 And so when you ask vision, it's like, I don't quite know. 550 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:53,280 I feel like I'm in a very, I'm in this time of contraction where I'm trying to figure 551 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:57,040 out what is, what is that thing? 552 00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:04,960 What is the place to move for the next phase of my career, which is probably going to be 553 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:06,800 the twilight of my career? 554 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:12,280 Like where is that impact and where do I want it to sit and how, and how do I want that 555 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:13,280 to look? 556 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:14,280 I'm still crafting. 557 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,480 Remember I said I've always crafted my life. 558 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,560 I'm still crafting that. 559 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:24,640 I know because of my background and because of what I do, I have a great comfortability 560 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:29,760 and talent and ability to talk to massive amounts of people. 561 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:36,280 Like I am not at all nervous to go and stand up in front of thousands of people and talk. 562 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,960 I, I get, it jazzes me. 563 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:45,480 I help others pitch their projects and learn how to pitch and connect with people. 564 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:50,080 It's, you know, it's part of the communication work that we do through Innovative Improv. 565 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:55,720 And then, I mean, the ultimate to me is obviously having a film that I'm not even there. 566 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,840 I mean, I was there because I crafted it. 567 00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,360 The fourth level of influence. 568 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:06,000 Yeah, but I'm just, I'm watching it, you know, hopefully just change things, you know, 569 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,440 that I'll never see or touch or feel. 570 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:13,800 And personally, one-on-one, which is totally badass and fine. 571 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:14,800 Yeah. 572 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:16,040 Are you familiar with the fourth level of influence? 573 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:17,720 I don't think I know that. 574 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:18,720 That's it. 575 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,120 I think the one-on-one is the first level. 576 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,520 One-to-many is second level. 577 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:31,040 And one-to, oh, third level is that it's one-to-group. 578 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:32,200 Then there's one-to-many, I believe. 579 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,760 I think it's the fourth level where it's, you're not even there and you have that influence, 580 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:36,760 right? 581 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:37,760 That's the Jesus level. 582 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:39,400 That's the Gandhi level. 583 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:43,880 That's the Buddha, the Mother Teresa level. 584 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:45,800 That's, oh, that's amazing. 585 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,320 You know, a film can do that. 586 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:54,400 But what's the, is there a goal right now as far as how many people y'all are anticipating 587 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:58,480 see the film or do y'all start those goals during the production phase? 588 00:32:58,480 --> 00:32:59,480 We will start those goals. 589 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:00,480 Well, yes and no. 590 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,880 I mean, we start those goals during the distribution phase. 591 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:07,160 What I didn't know before I started this journey with this story is that suicide is the fifth 592 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,280 leading cause of death for men in midlife. 593 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:16,760 And I have two people in my life who just lost their husbands to suicide just in the 594 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,880 last three months. 595 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:23,440 There's a friend of mine who has a neighbor who has lost five friends to suicide in the 596 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:24,760 last two years. 597 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,040 And so it's not getting better. 598 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:31,360 It is something and no one will talk about it. 599 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:36,920 And moreover, there are not, this film talks about the family that's left behind. 600 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,880 It starts a year after the event. 601 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:46,640 And so it's really about the waves and the ripples of the grief and the change and that 602 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:54,840 happens once the tagline is it's what happens when the condolences stop but life doesn't. 603 00:33:54,840 --> 00:34:00,480 And just a very unique loss and grief journey of someone who's a suicide survivor is very 604 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:01,480 different. 605 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,640 And there's no films talking about it. 606 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:09,600 We want to like hang out in the morose-ness of the decision and of the way and of the, 607 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,040 you know, that piece of it. 608 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:17,040 We don't really want to, we haven't as of yet sat with the family, which are mostly quite 609 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:23,680 honestly women very often, many women and children who have to heal from this loss in 610 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,120 a very unique way. 611 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:32,520 So it is, it is really meant again, that space I believe that we learn and accept and love 612 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:36,160 and grow through laughter is very much a piece of this puzzle. 613 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:37,160 Yeah, awesome. 614 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:38,160 There you go. 615 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:39,160 I just pitched you on my movie. 616 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:40,160 It didn't mean to. 617 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:41,160 Oh, I love it though. 618 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:42,480 I'm happy that you did. 619 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:50,040 What you've authentically opened on this call is a big part of what I believe growing 620 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,560 visionaries would benefit tremendously from hearing. 621 00:34:53,560 --> 00:35:00,560 This photo right here, this boy from Akron, Ohio wanted to make the NBA. 622 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:06,120 He didn't know he'd go on to break the scoring record for the NBA and become the LeBron James 623 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,640 that everybody knows. 624 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:13,160 And his vision elevated over time. 625 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:14,160 Yeah. 626 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:18,440 A lot of us have that, a lot of us who go the route of visionary have that opportunity 627 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:24,000 right to get to the next mountain, see our field of view ahead. 628 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:30,000 I remember my first time making it to the top of a mountain for our SaaS company, bootstrapped 629 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,400 SaaS company that was so hard to build. 630 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:36,400 And we got to the top and it was like that scene in Homeward Bound with the dogs and 631 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,640 the cat and they climbed the mountain and they're excited to see home and they see a 632 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,000 mountain range and they're like, uh-oh. 633 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:46,200 It's exactly what it felt like. 634 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:51,680 We saw the Rocky Mountains and I was like, uh-uh, nope, nope. 635 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:57,520 I'm going to set up shop on the other side of this mountain, lick my wounds, enjoy life 636 00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,920 here maybe someday. 637 00:35:59,920 --> 00:36:03,560 But my job is to help entrepreneurs get to that next well. 638 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:08,200 Since then, I've re-studied my journey a couple of times, but I remember that feeling in my 639 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:13,800 early 20s of, uh-uh, like that's, I'm not ready for that. 640 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:18,760 So I think it's really important to let leader, listen, you sort of go like, I'm going to 641 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:22,080 be a leader and there's this idea that you like, I've got to be perfect, I've got to 642 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,280 make mistakes, I've got to do this, I've got, and I know a lot of leaders, great leaders 643 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,640 don't have that, but new leaders especially do. 644 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:32,960 And there's a lot of pressure, especially if you're a woman too, or a person of color 645 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:39,360 or somebody who feels like I've got this mantle on my shoulders of being the one for others. 646 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:44,640 And you know, and it's, I just, my hope at some point is just to look at all of them. 647 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:48,640 I know there's a lot of great voices out in the world, but we all connect to different 648 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:53,840 coaches or different voices or different things for, you know, in different ways. 649 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:57,840 And it's why I always tell people, I'm like, listen, if I, what I say, like I've seen 650 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:02,080 people like I've said something to them 20 times and then they'll go to a talk and someone 651 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,680 will say the same thing in the exact same words, they're like, come back and they go 652 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:05,680 to some amazing stuff, man. 653 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:07,800 It was really amazing stuff. 654 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:13,240 And I could choose to be like, I've told you that 10 times, or I could say someone spoke 655 00:37:13,240 --> 00:37:14,240 to you. 656 00:37:14,240 --> 00:37:15,240 Right. 657 00:37:15,240 --> 00:37:16,240 Look at that. 658 00:37:16,240 --> 00:37:23,840 I learned this through therapy with my first wife, that, you know, I learned to appreciate 659 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:24,840 it. 660 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,960 But I do think there's a space for us all to get out of our own ways and just go like, 661 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,640 what, you know, what was the goal? 662 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,520 What was the goal was that they learned it? 663 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:34,520 That's right. 664 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:35,520 That's exactly right. 665 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,640 Oh, it's beautiful. 666 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,360 So we, um, all right. 667 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:46,240 Yeah, we, we've got, I'd love to have a follow up conversation, because especially with what 668 00:37:46,240 --> 00:37:50,520 I've learned about your vision and brand, I'd like for you to meet my business partner 669 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,160 at some point. 670 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:53,520 This is Dean Forbes. 671 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,840 He is my business partner at first class business. 672 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,640 We joined forces about two months ago. 673 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:04,320 We've been friends for about two years and Dr. Todd Snyder is one of my investors. 674 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,120 He used to be my 50 50 partner. 675 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:07,120 Now he's a silent investor. 676 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:13,040 He's one of the best psychotherapist, entrepreneur, coaches in the world. 677 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:18,840 And I am very humbled that he brought me on all of his clients besides me make $200,000 678 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:20,320 a month take home. 679 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,440 I was the exception to the rule by far. 680 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:24,840 I will say that. 681 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:31,480 And we've, we've grown quite an amazing system for helping people with scaling their visions 682 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,360 out. 683 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:37,840 And I don't, I don't want to make the presumption or, or allude to the fact that we're ready 684 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:38,840 to do that for you. 685 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,120 We'd have to have a conversation about what that could look like. 686 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:46,920 But what I do see is innovative improv solutions, potentially being a phenomenal solution for 687 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,120 our clients as well. 688 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:54,160 As we scale and grow, we plan on scaling to where we have over a hundred clients, business 689 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,400 clients coming on per month. 690 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,960 And I'm hoping to do that within a few quarters time from now. 691 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,680 We've been building our prototypes out, gearing up for it. 692 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:07,960 As I bring on people like, like Dean, who have corporate background and as my gray 693 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,960 hair start to grow in, I start to grow. 694 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:11,960 Let them grow. 695 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,120 To the corporate environment. 696 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:17,440 I've always been the young entrepreneur stay away. 697 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,360 You don't have a degree. 698 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:20,480 We don't trust you. 699 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,120 You're going to inspire everybody to leave. 700 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,880 You know, and I was a very mag. 701 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:29,040 I was a very polarizing leader because I wasn't leading. 702 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:34,600 I was just doing what I felt was right and kind of ignoring, you know, not, not, not 703 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,520 with a lack of empathy, but I'm a protector. 704 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:43,120 And so when I see an environment that's manipulating individuals, I'm not a very, I wasn't very 705 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:49,880 tactful or diplomatic about my approach to resolving the issue, which gets the little 706 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:57,600 bold fish eaten outside of the school of fish rather than, you know, learning to grow in 707 00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:01,680 a safe zone, learn to be diplomatic and learn to have an influence that's far larger when 708 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,880 you're not so hasty about how you do things. 709 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:09,880 So I've also done some exercises with, with people who lead based on the theories you've 710 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:11,880 talked about that I'll never forget. 711 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,560 And then I really loved how it was facilitating. 712 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,800 We learned so much about each other through these processes. 713 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:20,360 So there's a massive need and many levels for what you do. 714 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:24,880 There's a massive need for the virtual version of what you do. 715 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,640 We're struggling, we're struggling for that with that. 716 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,840 I mean, we're not, we're not, we're, I say joyfully struggling because we're not struggling 717 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:37,080 like it's hard, but we're definitely trying to figure out what that, how to translate 718 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:38,960 that in different ways. 719 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:40,720 Because it's new to all of you. 720 00:40:40,720 --> 00:40:41,720 Yeah. 721 00:40:41,720 --> 00:40:43,200 And it's, and it's hard. 722 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:49,240 So much of, of it is, you know, when we have people in a room live, they can't do anything 723 00:40:49,240 --> 00:40:50,240 else. 724 00:40:50,240 --> 00:40:54,240 It's so, it's like so like off-putting to walk in and then like, they were like, nope, 725 00:40:54,240 --> 00:40:55,240 put everything away. 726 00:40:55,240 --> 00:40:58,040 We're in a circle and we're staring in each other's eyeballs. 727 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:01,560 I've been working from home since 2009. 728 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:06,920 And this is, and this is as great as this is, we are constantly, we're fighting a lot 729 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,520 of distraction in that space. 730 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:13,160 So we're still trying to, I mean, we've done it varying levels. 731 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:14,160 Of success. 732 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,040 And we're definitely in the game and doing it. 733 00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:17,040 Yeah. 734 00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:22,880 I mean, you, you lose some of the really great vibes that come along with that. 735 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,640 But yeah, they can get it. 736 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:31,440 That's the key is that just so you know, again, I've been through this since 2009. 737 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:32,440 Yeah. 738 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:36,480 I've been working at home with work at home companies since 2009. 739 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:40,120 And I have seen the cycles that occur. 740 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:46,680 And we got to go through the horrific cycles that all the COVID individuals aren't even 741 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:47,960 at yet. 742 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:53,960 There is a massive storm that is coming and it will create what I believe, I'm a very 743 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:54,960 hopeful individual. 744 00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,440 I know a lot of people are in fear of what's going on. 745 00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:02,560 But what I don't see in today's world is I don't see people like Dracula cutting people's 746 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:07,040 heads off, putting them on stakes outside of their real estate property. 747 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:12,440 I don't see as much slavery taking place and as many concentration camps taking place 748 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:13,440 throughout the world. 749 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:18,200 I do see people of different diverse backgrounds starting to come together. 750 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:22,000 Although again, COVID does now cause people to look down and not talk to their in a weird 751 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:23,000 way. 752 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,560 You know, there's all sorts of weirdness that's going on. 753 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:30,960 And so there's some aspects that overall though, I have seen more light spread into 754 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,520 this world as I've looked at history. 755 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,600 And we, we have an awesome opportunity. 756 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,160 Oh, man, that's amazing. 757 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:38,160 We're in a clearing. 758 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:42,600 We're in a clearing and you got to clear out and let people, that's why I think I'm so 759 00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,200 passionate about letting people have the feels. 760 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:49,120 Because I always go the fastest way through through like you can't like you can't like 761 00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,240 the more we go like no, no, I'm not going to feel that I'm super, super happy to be here 762 00:42:52,240 --> 00:42:53,240 today. 763 00:42:53,240 --> 00:42:54,240 Yeah, it's great. 764 00:42:54,240 --> 00:42:55,240 It's great. 765 00:42:55,240 --> 00:42:56,240 It's great. 766 00:42:56,240 --> 00:42:58,240 That the longer the process is going to take for us to innovate on the other side. 767 00:42:58,240 --> 00:43:03,840 And so I want people to like stop being fearful, like let's get into the muck with 768 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:04,840 it. 769 00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:08,600 And I'm going to go through as much as I've had that book, which I have dysfunctions of 770 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:09,600 a team. 771 00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:12,840 No, it's built on your principle, which is great. 772 00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:17,440 I mean, I know there's lots of builders, but it's one of my it's one of the two business 773 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:21,640 books that I regret not reading sooner because I had it on my list and I didn't the five 774 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:27,400 just say the five dysfunctions of a team by Patrick wincy only and everything starts 775 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:32,840 with overcoming fear by learning to be learning to facilitate vulnerability. 776 00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:39,000 And it's a book that's designed to be a movie because it's got 17 different personalities 777 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:40,000 in it. 778 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:41,000 And it's all story. 779 00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,440 So it's done through storytelling. 780 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,120 The audible is way better because of that. 781 00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:46,120 You can hear all the voices. 782 00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:47,120 Oh, it's amazing. 783 00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,840 It's such a good quick read. 784 00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:53,960 But that's like I am humbled every time I work with people because I've had it just for 785 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:58,680 as many times as I've had people laugh so hard they've cried, which happens all the time. 786 00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:04,400 I've also had people cry, share what's not going right for them in the workplace right 787 00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,960 in front of their boss. 788 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:12,200 Be honest enough to say, Hey, Linda, your vibe that you won't let me talk about my weekend 789 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:16,240 really shuts me down and then walk through it. 790 00:44:16,240 --> 00:44:20,600 And I've even had people who have said who have thrown up in a class because it was just 791 00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:22,920 made them so nervous to be that vulnerable. 792 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:29,000 But I take all of that as like I am super honored because that means that we were safe 793 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:33,800 enough to walk through something that probably that person never walked through in a workspace 794 00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:35,360 before. 795 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,040 And that made that place better. 796 00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:38,320 You're kidding me, Ingers. 797 00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:39,320 I love it. 798 00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,640 So I'm like, I'm and I'm never scared of it. 799 00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:47,440 In fact, I've always had people go like, give Krista the tough ones because I'm like, let's 800 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:54,160 let's sit down and like work it out and figure out what's going on and and and what you're 801 00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,840 scared of and how we can step in. 802 00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:57,840 Wow. 803 00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:03,320 So I don't know that's that's definitely I will definitely listen to that that book. 804 00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,440 Well, thank you for all the time you've given me. 805 00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:10,680 I went over my time too and I'm just I'm just soaking this in. 806 00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:12,600 I'm soaking in the moment. 807 00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:18,400 So I have no idea what this what this at all looks like, like for us to chat and move forward. 808 00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:24,160 But I want you to know I am super I am because I'm in a rebuilding phase of what I think 809 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,120 is next for me in many ways. 810 00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:32,880 I'm super open to like exploring and figuring out how you meet tomorrow. 811 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:33,880 Can I meet to know? 812 00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:34,880 I don't think I can. 813 00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,400 When can you prioritize this? 814 00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:42,560 You're and I sounds like I'm buttering you up, but you know how valuable you are, right? 815 00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:43,560 You do know that. 816 00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:51,240 I have learned the skill of saying thank you and even though I don't confidence and cockiness 817 00:45:51,240 --> 00:45:56,600 are completely different ones advice ones of virtue and you hope to deserve to be confident 818 00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:57,600 in what you do. 819 00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:58,600 It is so I am confident. 820 00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:03,440 You know, I am confident when I do know whether I can really gracefully on the inside take 821 00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,280 some the some of that and really hear it. 822 00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:07,280 Probably not. 823 00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:12,400 But I have worked with thousands and thousands of business owners. 824 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,480 And and and business executives and then trains. 825 00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:19,240 I've dedicated my my short life to that reality. 826 00:46:19,240 --> 00:46:21,280 And I've been studying people since I was little. 827 00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:22,480 People ask where I learned how to sell. 828 00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:26,280 It took me a while to figure that out to become self-aware enough to know that the first 829 00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,160 time I sold I was three years old. 830 00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:33,240 My parents were fighting in the bedroom screaming at the top of their lungs. 831 00:46:33,240 --> 00:46:37,280 I ran through the bathroom through the closet jumped across the bed pushed my parents apart 832 00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,040 and said stop fighting. 833 00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:45,480 And I could have easily not had a great outcome with that experience with an alcoholic father. 834 00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:50,040 And I'm very fortunate that it worked. 835 00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,640 You know, and that's my spirit. 836 00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:53,640 That's what I do. 837 00:46:53,640 --> 00:47:01,360 I have no fear of of most conflict and going in between and and being a mediator or moving 838 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:02,360 things forward. 839 00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:07,680 The amount of people that I have trained with trained under etc. 840 00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,120 You have an incredible gift. 841 00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,920 It is very easy to see. 842 00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:16,000 Your strengths will come with fantastic weaknesses. 843 00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,120 I love Dr. Peter Drucker's words on that. 844 00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:21,800 He says people with tremendous strengths always this is the one hyperbole. 845 00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:26,520 I like always come with incredible weakness. 846 00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,400 You know, that's there and that's OK. 847 00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:33,080 We have if you want to work with somebody strong, you have to be willing to accept the 848 00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:36,480 weaknesses and it's in your best interest then to look at it together and say how do 849 00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,800 we build defenses around the weaknesses? 850 00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:41,840 But you can have your cake. 851 00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:43,280 You can eat it too. 852 00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:49,000 I also believe that you can put the cake on a production line, a conveyor belt, and we 853 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:53,800 could have more Richard Branson's in this world that can produce a movie that can run 854 00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:59,640 their company that can perhaps find their time back to helping those actors, but also 855 00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,720 have that that also be fed. 856 00:48:02,720 --> 00:48:07,520 There's an abundance that can exist for some of us in life, not that we don't want it to 857 00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:14,480 happen for all, but because sometimes life in this life, fair is not completely measured 858 00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:15,480 out. 859 00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:16,480 Why? 860 00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:22,360 Because in my opinion, my very strong bold known opinion, it's about the eternal aspect. 861 00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:27,800 You know, and what's occurred here in relation to me wanting to be a full time data for not 862 00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:32,280 getting to now I see my kids every other weekend and get, you know, less than a third of their 863 00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:33,480 life with them. 864 00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:38,400 That was very hard to understand, but to appreciate and to know that that's okay. 865 00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,280 Like it's all going to work out. 866 00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:43,920 The entire equation is going to work out to serve our good. 867 00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:45,800 And I truly believe and know that. 868 00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:48,400 And that's what allows me to understand that. 869 00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:54,680 Okay, it doesn't need to be fair right now, but that said, you happen to have some tremendous 870 00:48:54,680 --> 00:49:00,520 gifts and I think it'd be really cool to explore if there is an opportunity to expand that in 871 00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,160 a bigger way sooner than later. 872 00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:04,520 And so I'd invite you to see more. 873 00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,120 Thank you for your time, Krista. 874 00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:07,120 Thank you. 875 00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:08,120 I'll talk to you later. 876 00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:09,120 All right. 877 00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:10,680 Thank you for being here today. 878 00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,440 I'm really happy that you tuned into Vision Pros Live. 879 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:19,760 I'm looking forward to seeing your reactions as these episodes continue to move forward. 880 00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:21,360 We optimize them as the months go by. 881 00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,280 This is going to get more and more fun. 882 00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,640 We'll have more and more engagement as well. 883 00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:30,840 I invite people to participate in the show and thank you for giving us your time and 884 00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:35,640 attention and have an excellent time building out your vision and becoming a Vision Pro 885 00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:36,640 yourself. 886 00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:37,640 I'll talk to you soon. 887 00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:55,640 Bye-bye.