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All right, welcome in to Vision Pros Live.

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With Jackson Callum, I'm your show host.

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We will be doing interviews for visionary entrepreneurs

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and guests, guest leaders who are building

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fantastic visions out there.

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that might help you with your vision.

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drop a link in the comments and let us know what that is.

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be happy to promote it, be happy to talk to you about it.

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and be interviewed about that vision,

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then by all means, feel free to reach out.

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Woo-hoo!

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What's up everybody?

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Welcome to Vision Pros Live.

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I'm your host, Jackson Callum,

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founder of First Class Business,

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co-founder of Able Health and CEO of Podbooker.

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I'm really excited to be here today.

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We are gonna be talking about lead generation

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and lead generation, why it's not effective most of the time,

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how to make it effective, how to diversify it.

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We're gonna go as deep as we can on this subject

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in order to really open for you the doors

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to really the weaknesses, the threats,

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the problems that so many entrepreneurs

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a lot of secrets about how to do this the right way.

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I want you to win.

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I want you to figure out how can you effectively

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level up your only generation capabilities

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because I'll tell you what,

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the secret is not in the tool.

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It is in the mechanic, right?

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A hammer is just a hammer.

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It's just a tool.

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You cannot blame the hammer for not doing the job

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if the hammer is solid and sound.

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is this hammer solid and sound?

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Is this something I should be using?

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So one thing I haven't done at often enough

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is talk about our appreciation for the water project,

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the cause that we support on a regular basis.

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The water project does drill water wells

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and helps create sand dams, things like that.

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Technical components borehole wells, I think they're called,

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He's another company called Converge Marketing.

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So let's dive right in with what is lead generation?

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Lead generation is simply your process

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of attracting prospects to come in and talk to you.

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to evaluate those opportunities

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rather than just try to move your life forward

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about how you can be most effective in doing that.

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you outpaced me and chopped more trees down than I did.

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chopping away at the trees over and over with the dole axe,

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I was taking the time to sharpen the blade.

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it doesn't just apply to your mind.

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your business owners, your executives out there,

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are doing a lot of time sharpening the mind,

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understanding that you need to learn more and consume more.

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You want to learn more.

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to dedicate to sharpen your blade,

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sharpen the tools that you're using.

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This is not as simple as being a lumberjack.

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that I'm not aware of that they utilize,

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we all think of the axe, the chainsaw, right?

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to consider managing.

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coming out of line.

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and asking the right people to find those right tools.

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as effectively as possible

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in order to drive the result that you want to drive.

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what are some key components

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a lead generation system should have?

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I mean, it should be pretty well known as a system.

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a quality following, right?

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A user group.

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used by 100 billion people.

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that supports using that tool.

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before jumping into a new tool you never heard of,

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maybe look up and see is there a Facebook group

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that exists about this tool?

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and they have a live event coming up

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in a couple of weeks that I get to go to,

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which will be a lot of fun.

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who are also building awesome courses

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and building great things in the world.

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if the tool itself didn't provide value.

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a lead generation system should have?

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fancy landing pages in order to create a transaction,

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that's just not true, look no further than buzz

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Flow Chat is one of, is our latest tool to purchase

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in regards to lead generation and managing pipelines.

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Phenomenal tool, I'm really, really happy

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with the results that we've had over that,

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had with that for the last three days,

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where we haven't even really gotten the system

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up and going yet.

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I'm talking lots of people.

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I have so many conversations coming in right now

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that I can't, I'm struggling to keep up

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with the amount of conversations coming to me,

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and my team members are all about to experience

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why do we do lead generation?

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Why do we want more and more relationships?

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Isn't one relationship enough?

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I don't like to put all my eggs in one basket, personally.

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being people, clients, prospects.

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you get out there and you're able to get your voice out,

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out there.

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in front of an audience that really, really wants

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That's why it's so key for your business.

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If you're not distributing your brand name

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of as many people as possible,

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it's, there's an old slain, that's saying, slim pickens.

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what you're working with.

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low hanging fruit.

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industry, my goal, my job, my vision is to serve people

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as best I can.

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committed to working with me than somebody who I have

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I don't enjoy the process of convincing somebody

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to work with me, which is why we push most people

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who we have to convince to learn more about us

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through free tools and free things that we can provide.

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I'm like, you know what, I would rather give you

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our $99 revenue growth workbook intensive for free

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than you come in and speculate about my business.

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The doubting Thomas is they don't add value to a process.

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They don't inspire growth.

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and then come back, right?

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Same thing should be true of your business.

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If somebody's going to come in,

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highly skeptical of what you do,

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that's not a very good relationship.

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And that's really the essence of why you need Legion,

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but why you want to build it in a way that nurtures

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and inspires, doesn't push people away.

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So why do lead generation systems fall short?

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Again, it's not the hammer's fault.

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Oftentimes the person who sells the hammer,

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so to speak, who sells you the Legion system

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does not know how to properly execute and use lead generation.

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And they use manipulation tactics, coercion, high pressure,

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that make you feel icky or awkward.

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They force you to do things.

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Or on the other side, you buy the hammer thinking,

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man, this thing's going to do everything for me.

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This Legion system's going to make me a millionaire overnight.

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And I need revenues now.

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And so you panic and you create systems that pressure,

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or that beg, or that are highly needy,

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and that are built around the real inspiration

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that the customer needs, the intrigue,

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that your prospect needs to be able to say, hey, you know what?

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I've never heard of this person before,

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but I kind of want to talk to them.

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I mean, I feel inspired.

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I feel intrigued.

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I feel attracted somehow.

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That's really what the lead generation systems are all about.

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It's about intriguing.

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I would write this down.

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It's about intriguing.

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It's about attracting.

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And it's about inspiring.

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If you keep your messaging focused on, does this message

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intrigue people?

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Not does it trick people.

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Does it get people overly excited?

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Does it manipulate people?

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No.

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Does it intrigue people?

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Then does it attract them?

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And does it inspire?

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If you're accomplishing those three things,

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what's happening is you are warming your leads up.

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And so if you're utilizing the Legion system

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to be an AK-47 with the market, so to speak,

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and you're just blasting people with high pressure

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or fancy-looking case studies that nobody can relate to,

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and they're like, well, wait a second.

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I want to work with a human being,

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then you're going to be turning off the market over and over

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and over.

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And we don't condone that, because it doesn't work long term.

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And it's not what good people do.

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So what are the key advantages of lead generation

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for businesses who are looking to scale their growth?

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Well, for those of you who feel that's an obvious question,

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again, I'd recommend that you first comment

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with a question about lead generation

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that you want to provide.

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But there's so many people who don't know how lead generation

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helps with scale.

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But I also want to acknowledge that if you put it in place

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and you do it wrong, it's actually

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going to hurt your ability to scale.

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It's going to hold you back from scaling.

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So when you put it in the right system in place, though,

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it's going to help you scale, because it gets your voice out

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to the world and allows you to go back to serving those who

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you're meant to serve.

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If I can have messaging that goes out as a business owner

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that represents me 100% with who I am and the value

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that I provide and connects me to the type of people, right,

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the targeted type of people that I

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want to be associating with and talking to,

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then that's going to allow them to come to me and say hello.

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Hi, what do you have for me?

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Did you mean to send this message to me?

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I'm not sure if I'm a great fit or not.

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I'm not sure of our alignment.

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Can you tell me more about what you do?

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Or they say things like, hey, I've

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been looking for somebody that has the types of systems

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that you have.

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Can we talk about this?

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We get those messages, too.

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Sometimes we get messages that say, hey,

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it looks like we align in a lot of ways.

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I'd like to love to jump on Zoom with you.

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Sometimes we get people who say, hey,

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I have a solution to help you guys scale even further faster.

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And those are all people.

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That is lead generation.

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Those are all people who are coming to me with their style

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of communication.

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Whether their style of communication is right or wrong,

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I don't get to choose that.

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But I do get to decide, as a leader,

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how am I going to receive that person?

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And is that person a good or bad person?

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If they're trying to force an offer down your throat,

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your initial instinct may be to say

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that person's not a good person.

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But I would challenge that that person is probably

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a very good person who's been trained very poorly

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by a provider.

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And the cool thing is, it's my opportunity,

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on my end as a leader, to help show them a new way,

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to see if I can inspire them to move their business

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in the right direction and to stop creating a spam jungle

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out of platforms like LinkedIn.

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So what specific qualities or skills

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should you as a business owner have

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for effective lead generation?

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It's probably the thing that too many people avoid.

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They don't want to take ownership of the fact

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that they have things to learn in order to more effectively

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use a tool.

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Now, you can be a fantastic, I was just

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talking to a client about this, you

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can be a fantastic communicator with one group of people

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and a completely awful communicator with another.

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I do have fantastic communication skills

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in some parts of life.

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I have others that I'm not great at.

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A great example of this for most of us

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is I can speak English super well.

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I cannot speak Chinese.

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I don't even know a single Chinese word.

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And so I'm not a great communicator for a Chinese

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audience.

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And I don't know their culture very well at all, either.

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So I don't have the capacity to teach or talk to them

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or influence them or inspire them.

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Now, the same is true in subtle ways

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throughout the English language, whether it's

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dialect and culture and region, or it's your ability

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to craft a written message.

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Some people are good at writing message.

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Some people are good at speaking messages.

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Some people are good at making messages funny.

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Some people can do a great job of making messages.

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Like everything you hear sound sad and terrible.

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And that's not a skill set I want.

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So on the specific qualities of your skills,

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what should you have?

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I highly recommend that you know how to sell,

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like that you learn how to sell.

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And you have to find a sales program that you align with.

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There's programs that will teach you

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to be a sales shark and eat people alive.

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There's sales programs that will teach you how to serve

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and how to improve your ability to inspire people

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to make their own decisions for themselves, not manipulate

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them or coerce them into buying something

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that they don't necessarily want, which

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leads to buyer's remorse, which also

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leads to no customer loyalty, which also

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leads to constant cancellations and charge backs.

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So the manipulation side of sales

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is not what I'm looking at.

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There was a great program called the Sales Mentor.

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I really do like it.

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They had a little bit of a mix of both sides.

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But in essence, they strived really hard

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to stay focused on the service side.

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Another good example of that is Eli Wilde.

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Another good example of that is Jeremy Miner.

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I prefer his program over the others from what I've seen.

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But going back to the basics, Sandler's Sales System

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has a phenomenal book.

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And I believe the book is one of the more powerful assets

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in the market.

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And that's, you can't teach a kid to ride a bike at a seminar.

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It's a phenomenal book with a great strong base.

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Now, we also, at First Class Business,

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we have sales systems.

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Based on each one of those entities that I talked about,

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we've taken the best of each one.

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And we put them in place to help our clients understand

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how to tie their own personality and their own careful

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consideration and purpose-driven mission

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to the ability to inspire and influence people to move forward.

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And that's a very powerful combination.

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So don't hesitate to ask us about that.

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Other skills and qualities.

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The ability to show up consistently, reliably,

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the ability to be patient, and the ability to be persistent,

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both can exist, patience and persistence.

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I highly recommend it.

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So how about knowing how to ask great questions?

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That's a fantastic one, Jaime.

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It's very, very part of our system.

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We are constantly asking questions

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to a point where some people will move away from us upset

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because of the depth of questions that we ask.

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And that's totally fine.

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My job is not to push people away.

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I believe in people.

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And I want to give people the space

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to make their own decisions.

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And if they want to work with us or not,

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they have to answer the questions that

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make sense for us to be able to support their mission.

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They have to be willing to be vulnerable with us

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about where they're at.

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So specific qualities or skills.

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Another specific quality or skill, again,

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goes back to that writing one.

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Having a good copywriter that also has an editor,

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that also has a publisher.

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I know there's a lot of copywriters in the market

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who claim they can do everything by themselves.

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That's not how copywriting works.

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Copywriting and content creation is a department.

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It's not an individual.

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The same is true of marketers.

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Marketing is not a marketing guy, a marketing gal.

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It's a marketing department.

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And if you look at it, if you hear somebody try to ISO you in

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and say, oh, I can do all this alone,

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you're not going to get the quality that you need.

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You need a system of audits in order to protect your brand

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and make sure that your message comes through authentically

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and clear.

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Because sometimes we have a clear vision,

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or we're just not very good at articulating it in a way

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where other people can see that vision.

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And that is definitely a problem for a business owner.

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So you do want to have the copywriting skills

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or somebody on your team to fulfill

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that portion of your lead generation strategy.

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That leads us to another quality skill, delegation.

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The ability to delegate, the ability to let go and not

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control.

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And if it's not your wheelhouse, if it's not your expertise,

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then I highly recommend don't hire somebody

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cheap who's not qualified to run that side of your department

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or your strategy.

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You need to consider the art of hiring somebody

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who's qualified to walk you through that process

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and to help you understand it and relinquish

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your desire to control.

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I had to do that too.

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I learned this concept when I first hired my first designers,

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not just my lead generation team members, but my designers.

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I fired three designers back to back.

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And it was on the third one where I realized, like, man,

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is it them or is it me?

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And I realized it was me.

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And I needed to communicate better.

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And improve my ability to recognize their skillset

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and understand how to speak to them more clearly as a leader

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and how to honor them as a human being and individual too.

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It's a very powerful lesson.

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We're going to skip it for now.

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You can ask me about that anytime you want to, by the way.

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But in relation to lead generation, the same is true.

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You need to know who to delegate to.

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You need to know what reports you should be asking for.

525
00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:48,840
You need to know what effect the messaging will have,

526
00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:52,560
good and bad, on your reputation in the marketplace.

527
00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:57,200
So secrets are strategies for top-notch lead generation.

528
00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:00,000
One of the greatest secrets that is probably uncomfortable

529
00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:03,840
to learn is you are more valuable than the tool itself.

530
00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:09,000
And you are really the reason why it fails or why it succeeds.

531
00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,960
I would not just buy in to somebody's program

532
00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:15,760
and then blindly follow their advice

533
00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:17,200
for how you do lead generation.

534
00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:21,400
You do need to verify that with a couple of references.

535
00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:26,440
Two, the power of an audio clip.

536
00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:29,000
When you're meeting somebody through LinkedIn

537
00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:30,680
or you're meeting somebody through Facebook,

538
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,880
there's a little button with a microphone.

539
00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:36,480
And if you click that and you say, hey, my name is Jackson,

540
00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,640
and then you go into your message, perhaps you've,

541
00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,240
don't do these things as a tactic, by the way.

542
00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,000
If you do this as a tactic, you're going to burn,

543
00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:45,920
you're going to hurt people, and you're going to hurt yourself.

544
00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:47,840
And that's not going to help you lead generation.

545
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:51,120
But typically, when I have somebody who connects with me,

546
00:21:51,120 --> 00:21:54,240
and I see that they have, I assess, what is the quality?

547
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,320
Are they a business owner or an executive?

548
00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,480
Do they have a nice profile picture

549
00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,160
where they represent themselves and actually care

550
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:02,400
about their image?

551
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,400
Do they have a header image that represents their brand

552
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:09,080
well, if they've been seen on different news channels,

553
00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:09,920
for instance?

554
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:13,120
Is their messaging centered around serving others?

555
00:22:13,120 --> 00:22:14,440
Do they have a track record?

556
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,040
Do they have recommendations?

557
00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,360
There's a lot of things I could potentially look at.

558
00:22:18,360 --> 00:22:22,040
I scan for the authenticity, and this

559
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,920
is through years of practicing the art of pre-qualifying

560
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:25,800
individuals.

561
00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:29,080
I find the point of common interest, typically.

562
00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,320
And then I know that all of those, this person wouldn't

563
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,880
have a quality image if they didn't care about themselves.

564
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,240
They wouldn't be talking about helping the world

565
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,640
if they were focused on selling the world.

566
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,320
And so I can now easily craft a message and say,

567
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:43,360
hey, my name is Jackson.

568
00:22:43,360 --> 00:22:45,000
It's great to meet you, Lisa.

569
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:46,800
And I'd love to have a Zoom call with you.

570
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,040
It looks like we have an amazing alignment

571
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,520
on what our purpose in life is.

572
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,960
If you can spare 15 minutes, we can do that.

573
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,200
Also, I'd love to consider hosting you on my show, Vision

574
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:57,240
Pro's Live.

575
00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:01,080
I have that asset I can invite people to and say, hey,

576
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,040
come join me on this show.

577
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,480
That's a fantastic value point that I

578
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,400
get to give away because I have this podcast and this live

579
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:09,240
stream.

580
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:10,960
You can create the same.

581
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:12,520
It does not have to be fancy.

582
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:16,080
I did not start with these banners and these logos

583
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,840
and these questions or topics.

584
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:20,400
I didn't start with the music.

585
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:24,240
I started raw and real and genuine authentic with what I had.

586
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,200
And I got going and built momentum in order

587
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,960
to inspire others to do the same because you don't

588
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:31,720
have to have all the fancy to win.

589
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,280
You just have to care.

590
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:34,560
And I should say just.

591
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:35,640
You have to care.

592
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:36,760
You have to work hard.

593
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,280
You have to do the right work.

594
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:39,720
And you have to work smart too.

595
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,880
All of those things, in my opinion,

596
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:43,960
matter when you're scaling to the degree

597
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,440
that I want to scale my businesses to.

598
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,720
So those are some of the secrets.

599
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,640
Now talking about some of the strategies,

600
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,800
it really depends.

601
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:55,880
Let's pull up the trade show chart.

602
00:23:55,880 --> 00:24:00,720
I may because it showcases the context of when

603
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,320
are you contacting people?

604
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,280
Why are you contacting them?

605
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:05,880
And with what purpose?

606
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,240
What state of mind or presence are they in?

607
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,200
So this is something I designed a long time ago.

608
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,280
It applies today if you are going to a trade show

609
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,720
or you want to, if you want to maximize your trade show,

610
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,480
I've never seen anybody know how to build trade shows the way

611
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,400
that I and my team know how to build them.

612
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,320
I highly recommend working with us on it.

613
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,920
This is what's called our trade show funnel.

614
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,280
And it's all about the process of lead generation.

615
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,800
So can we zoom in on that?

616
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:33,640
Yeah, and let's go.

617
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,000
So it says at the trade show, it says pre-show

618
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,760
on the left hand side at the trade show.

619
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:40,920
And then it says post-show or after the show

620
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:42,400
on the right hand side.

621
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,440
So why does that matter?

622
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,440
Well, when you're lead generating

623
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,640
and you're reaching out to prospects,

624
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:53,520
you want to meet the prospect where they are

625
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,320
in the middle of what they're thinking about.

626
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,640
So for instance, you all know this.

627
00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,560
My post-show follow-up like, hey,

628
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,120
it was great to meet you at the show,

629
00:25:01,120 --> 00:25:06,360
would not be applicable for a pre-show message.

630
00:25:06,360 --> 00:25:07,720
They haven't made it to the show yet.

631
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:09,000
The show hasn't even happened yet.

632
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:10,240
It would be awkward.

633
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:14,640
Well, most of the plans that I see, they're so basic.

634
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:19,040
They're so one dimensional.

635
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:20,240
And then they get fired off.

636
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:21,680
Like, I hate this.

637
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:22,800
I do hate this message.

638
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:23,800
This message comes out.

639
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,120
If you've had this message on LinkedIn,

640
00:25:25,120 --> 00:25:28,080
say I in the comments or say, oh my gosh, I hate it too.

641
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:29,240
There's a message that goes out.

642
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:30,960
It's been going out for like 10 years now.

643
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,200
And it says, hey, it looks like we

644
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,840
have some mutual connections.

645
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,080
We should catch up sometime.

646
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,720
Like, everybody, not everybody, I'll

647
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,080
say those people wouldn't be doing it.

648
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,280
But most people know that that's automated.

649
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,160
And it's just cringe-worthy too.

650
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:47,320
It's like, dude, really?

651
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:51,120
You're going to contact me about the potential mutual

652
00:25:51,120 --> 00:25:53,800
connections we have and try to sneak in the door.

653
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,280
They're like, where's the value in that?

654
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,520
Why don't you try to be valuable instead?

655
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:02,880
Reach me as a human being and just say, hi, how are you?

656
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:04,480
And let your profile talk for you.

657
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:08,320
If you're really that valuable, you say, hi, how are you?

658
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,120
Yeah, it might be a little bit skeptical.

659
00:26:10,120 --> 00:26:11,840
But when you come across nice people,

660
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:15,080
like, I consider myself a pretty nice guy in those scenarios,

661
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:16,760
I'm going to say hi.

662
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:18,520
Because you're being a genuine person.

663
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,120
Like, you're not trying to do something weird.

664
00:26:21,120 --> 00:26:24,600
So the context of what the strategy should

665
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,200
be based on the context and the frame of mind

666
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:28,920
and the situation that your prospects end.

667
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:30,280
So back to the chart.

668
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:31,520
Let's zoom in a little bit further,

669
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,360
how many over on the pre-show.

670
00:26:33,360 --> 00:26:35,760
And you'll notice that there's three different icons

671
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,000
on the left-hand side.

672
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,480
There's the AdWords, Facebook, email.

673
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:41,800
These are just examples.

674
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,080
You've got YouTube, TikTok, Instagram,

675
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,680
all sorts of channels where the communication has

676
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,280
to be adjusted in order to be effective on those channels.

677
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,640
But if it's before an event or a trade show,

678
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:56,400
then it's very important for you to consider inviting

679
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,600
those people to catch up with you at the show

680
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,120
or at the event and let them know, like, hey,

681
00:27:02,120 --> 00:27:04,960
now I see we're interested in the same event.

682
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,280
And if you're using Facebook ads, for instance,

683
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,560
you can actually target the event and create an ad,

684
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,440
letting people know that you want to introduce yourself

685
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:12,760
to them.

686
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,520
Or you can use something like Flow Chat, which I love.

687
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:19,080
And you can actually go to the events Facebook group.

688
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:23,160
You can import all of the people who are in that group

689
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,280
into Flow Chat and then drag and drop people to the next stage

690
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,840
where it automatically copies whatever messaging you've

691
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,880
decided to choose to inspire people to connect with you.

692
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:33,440
And that's what we're doing for the Kajabi event.

693
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,360
I want to be connected to as many people as possible.

694
00:27:36,360 --> 00:27:39,520
We're going to the Kajabi event prior to arriving.

695
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:40,520
Why?

696
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,720
Because I want to have fun at that event.

697
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,560
I want to create synergy.

698
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,240
I want to invite people on my show.

699
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,160
So I've got Jodi and I planning for tomorrow morning.

700
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:49,160
She's over in the UK.

701
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:49,960
She's coming out.

702
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,800
She's one of the masterminds that goes to the event

703
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:54,720
and just does some really cool stuff outside of it.

704
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,960
She doesn't work for Kajabi, but she is one of their leaders

705
00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:58,920
within their community.

706
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:00,680
And I'm super excited to plan with her.

707
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:04,360
So I sent her an audio clip back to the manual process

708
00:28:04,360 --> 00:28:06,960
after we got connected in the, I just connected her

709
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,160
with the group because I saw she was a leader.

710
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:11,680
Praised her for something that she gave a value.

711
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,800
It was like some code thing that was like super valuable.

712
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:14,760
And I was like, it was awesome.

713
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,240
I tagged a team member on it.

714
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,480
And then I sent her a message and said, thanks.

715
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:20,320
I'd love to catch up.

716
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,480
I'm new to the Kajabi community.

717
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,120
And she was super graceful about it.

718
00:28:24,120 --> 00:28:26,320
Then I sent her an audio clip and I said, hey, Jodi,

719
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,760
if you're up to it, I'd love to have you.

720
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,600
I'd love to go live with you on StreamYard or meet via Zoom

721
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,480
and several other people before we get to the event

722
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,640
and start building some friendships and exchange some ideas

723
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:38,480
on how we can grow.

724
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,560
And she's like, and she responds almost immediately.

725
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:41,400
I love that.

726
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:42,360
That'd be awesome.

727
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:46,760
And we're now moving forward based on a mutual value

728
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:50,440
and benefit that could very well lead us to start talking

729
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,400
about how we could do business together.

730
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,480
But that agenda, right?

731
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,720
Of what I might want to, I guess what you might want to sell,

732
00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,560
do yourself a favor and shelve that.

733
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:00,960
Show up to serve.

734
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,520
Show up to do what is best for those that you're serving.

735
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,440
And it's phenomenal how great people will reciprocate

736
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:07,640
in your life when you do that.

737
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,240
So moving over a little bit, let's pull that down just a tad

738
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:12,480
where it says branding.

739
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,040
There's a conversion campaign.

740
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:15,480
I'm sorry, I pull it up.

741
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:16,960
I said down.

742
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,760
There's the branding campaign and the conversion campaign.

743
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,080
So why do we do both of these and why do we recommend it?

744
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:27,200
One is designed to go right for the sell

745
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,080
and to push an offer.

746
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:30,280
If you're going to do that, you're

747
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:36,560
going to have higher amounts of people who pay faster,

748
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,760
but more likely a risk of your reputation.

749
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,160
And people who get disgruntled and want charge backs.

750
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:46,600
You can build a masterpiece of a conversion funnel

751
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:47,680
and convert fast.

752
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:52,440
Tesla did it from stage with the Model S car.

753
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,480
Jake Larson is really good at building these as well,

754
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:55,840
video power marketing.

755
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:57,960
So is Travis Chambers, who is formerly one of the chamber

756
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,560
now is building some really cool hotel in the desert.

757
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:04,440
They're very good at driving masterful conversion campaigns.

758
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:08,480
The challenge with it is if you get one or two aspects wrong,

759
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,920
you're going to damage your reputation in the market.

760
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,720
And it's far more beneficial to build a branding campaign

761
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,240
alongside it and keep your conversion campaign fairly

762
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,720
soft initially and build some goodwill up.

763
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:25,400
That polar bear with Coca-Cola, it

764
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,600
has a profound effect on the market.

765
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,160
I wish their product was healthier

766
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:34,840
considering how much we all love that polar bear.

767
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:38,080
But great marketing doesn't have to be done for bad products.

768
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,680
Great marketing should also apply to the great products

769
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:41,480
that exist too.

770
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:46,000
So your pre-show message, rather,

771
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,840
is going to look very different and have different copy

772
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:49,600
than at the trade show.

773
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:50,960
Let's move to the next section.

774
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:52,840
At the trade show, you have different types

775
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:54,880
of lead generation methods as well.

776
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:56,640
For instance, so let's move that over

777
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,920
hi-made to the middle where it says

778
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,760
at the booth interaction, raffle contest program,

779
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:07,080
and then it says speaking engagement, dinner, or performance.

780
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,400
So at the booth interaction, when you're meeting somebody,

781
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,600
you're going to shake their hands, hopefully,

782
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,200
and you're going to give them a business card,

783
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:14,960
or they're going to give you a business card.

784
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,200
You need to know how to introduce yourself.

785
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,240
When I was in the restaurant industry

786
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,720
and we were working with restaurants,

787
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:25,880
our first day at the National Restaurant Association Show,

788
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,680
we didn't know how to pre-qualify all of the 60,000 people

789
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,200
who were walking through 9 and 1 half miles of trade show booths.

790
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,240
It took us a couple of hours to get our group.

791
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,600
We finally settled in on the best question

792
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,360
that got people roped in or quickly moved people away,

793
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,480
and that was, do you have a full service restaurant?

794
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:43,840
And when we asked that question, do you

795
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:44,920
have a full service restaurant?

796
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:46,600
Anybody who didn't didn't know what we were talking about.

797
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,000
We were able to say, OK, have a fantastic show in day.

798
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,520
If they did have a full service restaurant,

799
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:52,840
they would stop and say, yes, I do.

800
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:54,360
They were kind of cut off guard by it.

801
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,440
And it was intriguing.

802
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,240
And then we had to inspire them.

803
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,200
We had to attract them, rather, in order

804
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:02,920
to look at what we were doing in the booth.

805
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:04,600
And then we were able to inspire them

806
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:08,480
by hearing them out, showcasing our people skills

807
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,600
to be able to talk to them, and move them forward

808
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,560
towards wanting to receive a text message or an email

809
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,160
or book an appointment with us to evaluate our software, which

810
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,320
will lead to a phone call or Zoom call,

811
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,040
meeting in person, whatever it is you want to do with that.

812
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,520
The Raffle Contest Program, same thing, Lead Generation.

813
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,840
But Lead Generation based on a giveaway, which

814
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,440
is a completely different style of messaging than.

815
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,240
And you can do this through Facebook, you can do this

816
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,640
through Buzz, you can do this through all sorts of means.

817
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,160
But the key is, when you're at the stage

818
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,560
where you're an unknown entity, people

819
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,120
are going to have a fear of stranger danger.

820
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:44,400
They're not going to know you.

821
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:45,440
They're not going to trust you.

822
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:46,560
They're not going to like you.

823
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,520
It is their duty and responsibility

824
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,840
as a survival instinct to say no.

825
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:55,240
And you want to encourage that, not long term,

826
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,080
but you want to encourage that to let them know

827
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,800
you're also a human being who understands

828
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,040
that engaging with a stranger is a unique experience.

829
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:07,200
And if they're not exposed to all the authority that you have

830
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,720
or the credibility that you have or the systems of value

831
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,960
that you offer, then we should be in a position

832
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,880
to where we honor that fear.

833
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,600
Because it's justified.

834
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:18,080
They're worried.

835
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,080
Are you the type of person who's going to save them

836
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:21,720
from the ledge they're on?

837
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,320
Or are you the type of person who's going to push them off

838
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,200
and doesn't understand the consequence of how

839
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:27,840
it can impact their life?

840
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:31,040
That's something that's very important to be aware of.

841
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaking engagement, dinner or performance.

842
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,240
So one of the things that I recommend doing at engagements

843
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,720
is offering the host a VIP dinner.

844
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,520
Finding the leader as high up as you can get and say,

845
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,480
hey, I'd love to host a VIP dinner for some of your special

846
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,920
people if that's not already on the docket.

847
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,880
It's amazing how many events don't have something

848
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,160
like that prepared or planned.

849
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:53,640
And like, well, you know what?

850
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,520
We can't do a dinner, but we're excited about it.

851
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,200
How about we do a lunch?

852
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:58,040
Like, let's do that.

853
00:33:58,040 --> 00:33:59,400
Or do you want to do a raffle off?

854
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,600
Next thing you know, your name is being presented.

855
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:05,560
You're becoming a friend of the system, not an outsider.

856
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,600
So awesome opportunity to upgrade your strategy.

857
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,440
Let's move on to the post show follow up.

858
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,000
This is where I see most businesses struggle

859
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,200
is at the show, they have very weak engagement.

860
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,240
And then after the show, Jaime, if you can move over

861
00:34:20,240 --> 00:34:22,720
to the right side, then we can look at that.

862
00:34:22,720 --> 00:34:25,400
So the branding campaigns and conversion campaigns

863
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:26,360
still exist.

864
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,120
And it's very important to engage with people

865
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:28,760
after the show.

866
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,120
You have a window there where you can say, hey,

867
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,200
it was great to meet you at the show, or hey,

868
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:34,680
I really wanted to meet your booth,

869
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:38,080
and we didn't get the chance to go by and say hi.

870
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,840
Can we form some type of collaboration?

871
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,240
Usually that's one of the safest approaches,

872
00:34:43,240 --> 00:34:45,480
is jump in with a collaboration and come

873
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,600
into the call with a collaboration attitude of respect

874
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:49,880
for what they do.

875
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:51,280
Hear them out fully.

876
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:52,720
See where they take you with that.

877
00:34:52,720 --> 00:34:55,760
In the worst case scenario, if you hear them out fully and see,

878
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,760
one of two things going to happen.

879
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:01,400
They're either going to bow out and not sell you,

880
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:02,840
because you ask great questions and they

881
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,200
realize they're not in a great position to sell to you.

882
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,280
Or they're going to provide a solution to you

883
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:08,480
that, based on your question, should

884
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,680
have led to you evaluating whether that solution makes

885
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:11,800
sense or not.

886
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,040
And if it doesn't make sense, or you don't have certainty

887
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,120
about it, then say, I need more information.

888
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,480
Or say, this is not the time for us.

889
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,080
But if it doesn't make sense, just tell them no.

890
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,200
Like, hey, no, this is not a good solution for us.

891
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,160
We do have a great provider that we're committed to.

892
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,480
But we would love to maintain the friendship, respect,

893
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:28,040
and relationship.

894
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,240
Maybe there will be an opening down the road.

895
00:35:30,240 --> 00:35:31,400
You can do that.

896
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,640
You can say no to people, and they won't get offended

897
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,560
if you are willing to be clear with them.

898
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:39,840
On the flip side, they very well could, like I said,

899
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:41,320
want to buy from them.

900
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:42,600
I have bought from plenty of people

901
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:46,560
who came into my meeting, and they had a value.

902
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,480
And I was like, you know what, Carolyn?

903
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:50,760
Your book's amazing.

904
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:51,560
And I looked it up.

905
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,400
While I was talking to her, I saw the quality of it.

906
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:55,880
I saw the reviews.

907
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:56,720
I saw the message.

908
00:35:56,720 --> 00:35:58,840
And I was like, that is absolutely a product

909
00:35:58,840 --> 00:35:59,600
I can support.

910
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,400
And so while I'm on the call with her,

911
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:02,720
I literally purchased her book.

912
00:36:02,720 --> 00:36:04,600
I went ahead and showed her that I purchased her book.

913
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:06,000
And she's like, wow, Jackson, look,

914
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,400
that's the first time that's ever happened live on a call.

915
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,000
I've never seen me do that before.

916
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,160
And as you guys know, I do things a little differently

917
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:14,280
than others.

918
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,400
And that's just part of what I enjoy about life.

919
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:21,920
So what are some powerful tools for lead generation?

920
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,120
Again, the audio clip messages.

921
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,120
You can go through so fast.

922
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,600
Look at profiles and send an audio clip.

923
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,320
In May of last year, I believe it was,

924
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,440
I had a series of people who were all connected to me

925
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:35,880
through our automation system.

926
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,800
And I believe we were using NewLink at the time

927
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,080
through our automation system.

928
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:40,240
And there was all these people.

929
00:36:40,240 --> 00:36:41,640
Some of them had positive responses

930
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,800
and some have negative responses, right?

931
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,840
And I went in and I'm pretty good at turning people around

932
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:48,720
to have their condescending approaches

933
00:36:48,720 --> 00:36:52,120
and help them expand their mindset and realize like,

934
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,480
oh, wow, okay, this guy is a legitimate person,

935
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:55,960
especially when I use audio.

936
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:57,960
Because people can hear the sincerity,

937
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,480
the energy, the cadence, the tone of my voice.

938
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,120
And it has a much stronger impact

939
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,000
than if I were just trying to hide behind,

940
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:05,480
you know, a text message conversation.

941
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:09,000
So I went through May of last year

942
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,320
and I spent 90 minutes on a Friday night

943
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,680
going through and quickly sending these audio clips.

944
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,200
And that night, that 90 minutes turned into

945
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,600
32 appointments booked in 90 minutes.

946
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:21,520
Why?

947
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,280
Because I know my cell systems.

948
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:24,800
I know how to influence people.

949
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,880
I know how to inspire people to jump on a call.

950
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:28,560
I'm not scared to meet with people.

951
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,440
And I'm not, and I'm very efficient.

952
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:32,440
Because I practice.

953
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,160
And when you practice and practice and practice

954
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,400
and you go through the fundamentals on a daily basis,

955
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,800
you can create incredible, amazing results.

956
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,480
So what are some other powerful tools for lead generation?

957
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,800
As I mentioned, BuzzEye AI is a great one.

958
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:50,440
Flow Chat, those are the two that I turned to the most

959
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:54,400
in terms of, I don't wanna call Flow Chat an automation tool,

960
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,360
but it does automate a lot of the processes

961
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:57,480
behind the scenes.

962
00:37:58,960 --> 00:37:59,800
Advertising.

963
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,720
And as hated as that term might be

964
00:38:02,720 --> 00:38:03,960
for small business owners,

965
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:05,440
it's one of the most important mechanisms.

966
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,720
It's one of the big reasons why every company

967
00:38:07,720 --> 00:38:09,760
that I know that's big with the exception of Tesla

968
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:11,320
has an advertising budget.

969
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:15,800
But you should be utilizing something like the dollar a day

970
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:19,040
plan that Dennis U puts out in the world and talks about.

971
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:22,000
Boosting a post with a dollar, two or three dollars

972
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,400
in order to start figuring out what messages

973
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,160
are resonating with your audience.

974
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,400
If you're boosting the post and you're targeting

975
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,440
an audience that either reads a magazine

976
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:32,680
related to your industry,

977
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,280
or as part of a community in your industry

978
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:36,720
that's large enough to target,

979
00:38:36,720 --> 00:38:40,080
or that has the interest or the age range,

980
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:44,240
and there's so many ways that you can create

981
00:38:44,240 --> 00:38:48,400
your preferred audience, and then you run those ads,

982
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,240
and no, I'm not talking about

983
00:38:51,240 --> 00:38:54,320
max capacity lead generation from the start.

984
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,280
I'm talking about you getting comfortable with systems

985
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,840
that you've been avoiding learning about for far too long.

986
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,880
And it's much healthier to have a dollar a day

987
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,680
gym membership contribution to advertising.

988
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,320
That way you're not breaking the bank,

989
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,520
but you are learning responsibly about the tools

990
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:12,400
that could help you scale once you get your mindset

991
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:16,720
settled in on the reality that you can scale your brand.

992
00:39:16,720 --> 00:39:19,600
So I wouldn't be listening to this or looking at this either

993
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,520
if you weren't in a position to where you did want to scale,

994
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,040
but if you are in that position,

995
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,920
I'm trying to save you years of hassle

996
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,080
by helping you realize that really,

997
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,440
if you're not in a scaled position right now,

998
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,280
there are limiting beliefs that you have

999
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,120
that are holding you back from the process.

1000
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:36,880
And whether you trust me or you trust somebody else

1001
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,520
to help you bridge that gap and figure it out,

1002
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,280
it's very important to go to somebody

1003
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,240
who's further along the track path than you

1004
00:39:43,240 --> 00:39:46,880
and ask them, how do I get past myself?

1005
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:50,280
How do I grow beyond where I've been able to grow to?

1006
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,960
And you turn in the humble card.

1007
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,160
I do it all, I still do it to this day all the time

1008
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:56,600
when I went with Flow Chat, for instance,

1009
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:57,840
and signed up the other day.

1010
00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:59,440
When I got on my call with Chris,

1011
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,320
I got on my call with Sean to talk to him

1012
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:02,600
about the process and Hannah.

1013
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,560
Oh, I mean, oh, they're side kicking this.

1014
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,160
Hannah did a phenomenal job, by the way, on her call.

1015
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,040
When I got on the call with Chris, I said, listen, man,

1016
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:10,520
I've been in cells a long time

1017
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,120
and I wanna know your process.

1018
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:14,120
How are you all doing this?

1019
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,240
I wanna make sure we maximize everything

1020
00:40:16,240 --> 00:40:17,840
that you're doing on your end

1021
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:21,320
and I'm open for feedback to optimize my processes.

1022
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,320
That doesn't mean I'm abandoning my processes.

1023
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,600
That doesn't mean I'm ignoring my coach, right?

1024
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,760
And I'm never, I hate that wall

1025
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:29,760
and people say, I already have a coach.

1026
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,000
You know, I hate it because I feel bad for people.

1027
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,040
I'm like, why would you limit yourself like that?

1028
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,720
The most successful people in the world have many coaches,

1029
00:40:36,720 --> 00:40:37,560
right?

1030
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,760
What makes you so scared in life

1031
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,080
that you have the need, you know,

1032
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:47,080
or the belief that I only need one coach in life.

1033
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:48,800
You know, it's just not practical.

1034
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,200
And again, I feel bad for people in that situation

1035
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:52,920
but it drives me a little bit crazy.

1036
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:56,560
So how do you evaluate your lead generation tools?

1037
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,520
I recommend that you evaluate them

1038
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:00,840
by also asking third parties what they think

1039
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:02,120
of those lead generation systems.

1040
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:05,160
You can also post online vulnerably and say, you know,

1041
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,400
I'm considering this lead generation tool.

1042
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,600
Do you recommend it or do you recommend something else?

1043
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:12,400
Especially if you go into a community

1044
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:13,880
like the Go High Level community,

1045
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:14,720
I think it's called,

1046
00:41:14,720 --> 00:41:15,840
you have to be a member of Go High Level

1047
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:17,560
or have that system.

1048
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:19,960
We're a member, we do pay for that system monthly

1049
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,080
and our clients get access to it for free

1050
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:23,200
from us for working with us.

1051
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,240
So you can get into the Go High Level community.

1052
00:41:26,240 --> 00:41:27,640
You can ask a question like that

1053
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,680
or the Bon Jorro community, another great system tool.

1054
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,200
I bet Buzz has a community, I haven't looked yet,

1055
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:37,040
but you're in that community of successful people

1056
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,760
ask that question and it's amazing how many people

1057
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:41,680
will step up and answer the question for you

1058
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,400
and say, not that tool, this tool.

1059
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:44,960
And then you get like 10 people who like it

1060
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:46,960
and say like, yes, that's the way to go.

1061
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:48,480
You look at their credentials.

1062
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:52,160
Now you have a better process of figuring out

1063
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,760
what tools should you be using in a marketplace.

1064
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,400
Always ask other people who are along the path

1065
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,640
what they're using for their growth.

1066
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:01,920
Some common challenges or pitfalls,

1067
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,120
businesses encounter with lead generation.

1068
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,360
I would say the most common one is giving up.

1069
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,840
Throwing in the towel and saying this doesn't work

1070
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:11,720
and getting fed up with it.

1071
00:42:11,720 --> 00:42:14,800
My children do that when they're fed up with something

1072
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,640
sometimes, they just want throwing,

1073
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:20,360
I bet Jaime's young child gives up on things sometimes.

1074
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,920
And it's important to re-inspire them as adults.

1075
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,880
If you have a true vision and a passion for what you do,

1076
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:30,560
then the sooner you learn to not give up on things

1077
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,000
and to fight through it and to figure out the process,

1078
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:34,920
the sooner your vision will become more clear

1079
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:36,760
and more powerful to those around you.

1080
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,840
So that's probably the biggest one is the head trash

1081
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:41,920
that might be holding you back.

1082
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:43,960
Other challenges that people fall into

1083
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,840
is they victimize themselves.

1084
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:51,160
They blame the provider for not providing the service,

1085
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:52,040
not providing the tool.

1086
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:53,880
Well, the tool's there, especially if we're talking

1087
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:55,880
about implementing a tool.

1088
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:59,200
Do providers overhype their solutions?

1089
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:00,840
A lot of times they do, right?

1090
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:05,840
So what can you do to create a more comprehensive analysis

1091
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,560
of how that tool is going to impact your business, right?

1092
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,400
At the end of the day, that is on our shoulders.

1093
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,520
So anytime where I've purchased a tool

1094
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,280
and I didn't get what I wanted to out of it,

1095
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:16,840
I've learned in life to look back and say,

1096
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:20,200
okay, what did I do wrong in this picture?

1097
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,760
Not how did they take advantage of me in this situation?

1098
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:27,640
Now, if the contract that you sign has a guarantee on it,

1099
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,360
that's a different story.

1100
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:30,920
If the contract has a guarantee on it

1101
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:32,440
and a promise on it associated with it,

1102
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,640
if you do these steps and you do all those steps

1103
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:36,280
or you agree to do all those steps

1104
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,000
and they are fulfilled, then you have every right

1105
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:40,240
to ask for your money back.

1106
00:43:40,240 --> 00:43:41,920
And if they don't honor that,

1107
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:43,920
and that's the situation where,

1108
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,200
I would say that, yeah, you did get taken advantage

1109
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:47,160
of in the situation.

1110
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,320
So again, how do you protect yourself against that though?

1111
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,240
Well, you still have to look at it and say, all right,

1112
00:43:54,240 --> 00:43:55,880
well, what did I learn from the scenario

1113
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:59,680
so that I can move forward with more purpose

1114
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,840
the next time I get a system?

1115
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,720
So another pitfall that happens is

1116
00:44:04,720 --> 00:44:06,160
if you go into the automation world

1117
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:10,240
and you do these tactics, you're likely to get shut down.

1118
00:44:10,240 --> 00:44:14,000
You're likely to have your LinkedIn account suspended

1119
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:15,760
or your Facebook account blocked.

1120
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,800
There are regulations in terms of how many people

1121
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,880
you can invite as friend requests or connections per day.

1122
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,480
There are regulations in terms of how many messages

1123
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,400
you can send out per day.

1124
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,120
There's regulations against how many emails

1125
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:30,280
you can send to people, et cetera.

1126
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,800
There's all sorts of regulations that exist.

1127
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:34,320
And so if you're going with an entity

1128
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,320
that is cutting corners left and right,

1129
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,720
then you might want to be aware

1130
00:44:38,720 --> 00:44:40,920
that they might decide to cut corners

1131
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:42,520
in regards to the regulations

1132
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,600
and you might lose some of your best online assets.

1133
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:47,120
That's not something to be scared of.

1134
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:48,720
That's something to research, right?

1135
00:44:48,720 --> 00:44:50,480
That's something to then talk to an entity

1136
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:51,840
who may be able to help you.

1137
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:55,840
Bridge that gap without you having to worry

1138
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,440
about them going outside the bounds of what's okay,

1139
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,360
what's practical and what makes sense for the tool at hand.

1140
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:06,000
And why do you need to diversify your lead generation?

1141
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:07,160
Again, back to the concept.

1142
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,720
I don't want all my eggs in one basket.

1143
00:45:09,720 --> 00:45:12,840
I don't need every element of the bridge.

1144
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:16,280
I don't need a bridge that the size of

1145
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:17,880
the San Francisco Bridge, for instance.

1146
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,680
I might not for my city right now, you might not.

1147
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:24,080
But is your bridge, are your bridges adequate

1148
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:27,200
for the community size that you want to build and scale to?

1149
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,320
One of the common mistakes in sales

1150
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:34,040
that I see younger entrepreneurs make in regard to this

1151
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:37,080
that teaches me how small their brand and businesses

1152
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,560
is they don't ask the question,

1153
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:41,080
where did you hear about us from?

1154
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:43,760
And that should be part of your process

1155
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,280
of pre-qualifying somebody who's on your calendars.

1156
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:47,720
Where did you hear about us from?

1157
00:45:47,720 --> 00:45:50,160
Now, to you, it might be obvious

1158
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:54,560
that they came through your LinkedIn profile

1159
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:59,280
because maybe that's the only bridge you have to a community.

1160
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,000
And if your prospect knows that and learns that,

1161
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,200
they have every right to fear working with you

1162
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,400
because you as a small provider

1163
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,360
probably aren't going to survive

1164
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:13,360
with one channel access to wealth and profitability.

1165
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,840
On the flip side, if somebody comes in my funnel

1166
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:18,880
and they ask, how did you learn about us?

1167
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,120
And say, well, obviously it was your LinkedIn.

1168
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:25,920
I can respond, I can listen to that and understand and say,

1169
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:29,040
oh, that was the first time you heard about us.

1170
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:31,720
And they, thank you for letting me know.

1171
00:46:31,720 --> 00:46:34,960
And they can go, oh, well, yeah, like where else would I,

1172
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,440
okay, well, I didn't know if you heard about us

1173
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:41,000
or a podcast or you had joined our Facebook group.

1174
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,440
I knew that you came through LinkedIn,

1175
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,880
but it's possible we've been in each other's circles

1176
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:47,720
for years without knowing it.

1177
00:46:47,720 --> 00:46:51,240
Oh yeah, no, you're right, that makes sense.

1178
00:46:51,240 --> 00:46:53,600
And yes, it does make sense.

1179
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:57,160
So it's very important as a leader to be aware

1180
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,840
that when we ask questions,

1181
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:01,760
we don't ask the questions to manipulate.

1182
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,600
We ask the questions so that we can gain context.

1183
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:06,120
And that context is supposed to lead us

1184
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,720
to a stronger relationship.

1185
00:47:08,720 --> 00:47:10,400
And the stronger relationship leads us

1186
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,440
to be a better service provider to the entity

1187
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:13,680
that we're providing a service to.

1188
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,360
So I hope you found value in today's

1189
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:17,920
conversational lead generation.

1190
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:19,920
If you do have a specific question

1191
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:23,360
that you want to get addressed,

1192
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:26,600
I'm happy to do a private loom video recording for you.

1193
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:28,760
Don't hesitate to ask for specifics.

1194
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:30,600
We didn't go over the reports that's opening over,

1195
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:32,040
but we are out of time today.

1196
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,040
Let's hear, Jackson, what powerful resource can we share

1197
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:35,640
with the audience today?

1198
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:37,080
Hi, May, that's your call, man.

1199
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,920
I do think that the, you know, one call I will make,

1200
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:43,320
the Revenue Growth Workbook Intensive, that's $99.

1201
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,960
Let's go ahead and drop a free version of that

1202
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,200
in the comments so that anybody who wants to use

1203
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,440
Revenue Growth Workbook Intensive can download it

1204
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:53,080
and use it for free and have the seven minute walkthrough

1205
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:56,160
video that I walk you through as fast as I can.

1206
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,320
Why we use that video for our power campaigns

1207
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,600
that video power marketing for every single client

1208
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,400
we launched, whether that was Nordic Tracks,

1209
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:08,160
Super Viral Video Dance Off or their Tim O'Soulaing people

1210
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,440
to Jim back in the day.

1211
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:12,520
That one was so politically sketchy

1212
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,240
that I believe they've removed it since then, you know,

1213
00:48:15,240 --> 00:48:19,840
or John Lee Dumas's Entrepreneur of Fire mastery journal

1214
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:21,640
that we did that Kickstarter campaign for,

1215
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:25,000
Ryan Blair's book launch, Rock Bottom the Rock Star,

1216
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,680
great book by the way, great leader.

1217
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:31,640
And so there's, that tool can help you plan out

1218
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,520
your irresistible offer so that you can put

1219
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,080
an irresistible on the offer out in the market

1220
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:40,840
that people will click in droves and give you the opportunity

1221
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,800
to talk to them about what's that level up look like?

1222
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,080
How could we possibly work with you

1223
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:47,120
or why should I work with you?

1224
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:51,040
Then it's up to you to know how to inspire and attract them.

1225
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,400
Unless again, you work with first class business

1226
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,720
so we can help you become more attractive

1227
00:48:55,720 --> 00:48:57,960
and more inspiring by clarifying your vision,

1228
00:48:57,960 --> 00:48:59,880
your culture, your leadership and putting together

1229
00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:01,080
some super awesome marketing with you.

1230
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,800
So with that said, thanks for coming on Vision Pros.

1231
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:04,800
We're happy to have you.

1232
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:06,400
I look forward to seeing you again next week.

1233
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:09,240
Drop a comment, like the show, share this with others

1234
00:49:09,240 --> 00:49:11,440
if you feel it will be of value to somebody else

1235
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:12,880
who's looking for lead generation.

1236
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,560
Our goal on that is to ultimately eliminate

1237
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:19,440
all these tactic driven systems and help people understand

1238
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,880
the value of showing up with true value to the market

1239
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,160
and actually building a relationship

1240
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:26,640
rather than forcing the issue

1241
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:28,120
and trying to get somebody to buy from you

1242
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:28,960
for the wrong reasons.

1243
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:30,640
So have a fantastic rest of your week

1244
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:32,480
and I will see you next week.

1245
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:33,320
Bye everybody.

1246
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:36,360
Thank you for being here today.

1247
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:39,160
I'm really happy that you tuned in to Vision Pros Live.

1248
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:43,000
I'm looking forward to seeing your reactions

1249
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,480
as these episodes continue to move forward.

1250
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:47,160
We optimize them as the months go by.

1251
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,480
This is gonna get more and more fun.

1252
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:51,240
We'll have more and more engagement as well.

1253
00:49:51,240 --> 00:49:53,680
We'll invite people to participate in the show

1254
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:57,200
and thank you for giving us your time and attention

1255
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:09,760
and have an amazing day.

