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Welcome to the Happy Healthy Hustle podcast where we explore the intersection of health,

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happiness and productivity.

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I'm your host Christiana and I'm super excited to be here with you today.

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Today's episode is based on a 2022 Instagram Live recording with a special guest, Mary

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Ochsner.

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I met Mary on Instagram where she's available at Mary Ochsner and she got me started with

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yoga because she teaches beginner yoga tutorials to help you get started practicing.

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She also has an app that's called Yoga Plus and I'm super thrilled that she is here with

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us today to share some of her wellness secrets.

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So let's hear it from Mary.

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I'm going to be talking with Mary Oxner, super excited about women in wellness.

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Happy Wednesday, wellness day.

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Yeah, happy Wednesday.

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So Mary, why don't you tell us a little bit where you are right now and maybe what is

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your secret superpower?

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Because you're certainly so inspiring to all of us in this woman in wellness.

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I love that question of, you know, what is my superpower?

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Because I don't think enough of us take the time to really pause and reflect on what are

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we really good at?

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Like, what do we really thrive in?

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So when you asked me that, you want to know what came to mind for me first is my ability

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to feel my feelings, being an emotional person.

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I think that is my superpower.

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And I want to expand on that just a little bit more.

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I feel like my whole life being emotional was kind of frowned upon.

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And that's not like, it wasn't like my mom and dad didn't want me to show emotions.

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I could always come to them for it.

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But it's like society, like, you know, you'd apologize, like, oh, you'd start crying, you'd

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try to hold it back.

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You try to like make sure no one could see that you were crying or upset about something.

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And I feel like so many people try to suppress that when it's happening, instead of opening

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it up and allowing it to just flow and be and then you and then you process those feelings

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that you're going through.

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So I think that's my superpower.

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And I encourage other people to kind of take note, you know, do I feel like do I catch

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myself apologizing for how I'm feeling?

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Do I catch myself holding things back?

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And if so, how are you able to take a step to shift that into allowing yourself to feel?

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I think that that's such an important thing, as you mentioned, learning and listening to

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your feelings, because when you connect with yoga, you also feel certain things in your

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body.

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And some days your body doesn't feel great.

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So maybe just working through that acknowledging it, because maybe your mind hasn't quite registered

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it.

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But then your body tells you something isn't quite right today.

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That's okay.

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On some days, I can do the split just perfectly.

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And on some other days, I'm like, I give myself grace.

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It's not happening today.

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I love that.

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Yes.

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honoring your body is one of the biggest lessons that I've learned from yoga always like, prior

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to when I started practicing, it was always like, push yourself to the limit, go as hard

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as you can, like, you know, don't stop like if you, you know, keep going, push, push,

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push.

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And it was very like that masculine energy of like, go, go, go push further strive, like,

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you're never satisfied.

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Where I feel like when I started practicing yoga, it kind of shifted that for me.

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And that's what made it so much more enjoyable and made me want to keep showing up on my

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mat was that I was able to honor myself for exactly as I was in that moment.

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And if that day felt like pushing myself, hell yeah.

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If I didn't feel like if I felt like I needed more rest and relaxation, I would honor that

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and I would do that.

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And it's, it's such an important thing.

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And you'll find that when you learn how to do that on your yoga mat, you'll start to

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be able to do that in your time off of the mat too.

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You know, you'll start to do your everyday life.

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Yeah, because yoga can be challenging and can be restorative.

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It's just there are these different facets.

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And as you mentioned, you need to listen to your body or your feelings and then respond

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accordingly.

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We talked about the mind, we talked about the body and May is all about mental health

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as well.

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So let's maybe also talk a little bit about the challenges.

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What challenges do you experience and how did you overcome them yourself?

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So I, there's so many different challenges that I've had to overcome, you know, throughout

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this journey.

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I think one of the biggest ones, which is just a general theme is overcoming that fear

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or that self doubt.

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You know, I'm not good enough to do this or that fear of failure is if I do this, am I

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going to fail?

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Are people going to laugh at me?

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Like is it, is it going to be an embarrassment?

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And that kind of has been one of the challenges that I've seen come up many times throughout

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my journey through yoga, as well as entrepreneurship.

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I know for me, like the biggest challenge for me was building up that courage and that

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bravery to quit my job, my full time comfortable, easy job that I knew what I was doing to start

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a business that I kind of didn't know exactly what I was doing.

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And to get to that place to work through those limiting beliefs that I had and to build that

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confidence in myself and to be able to, you know, let go of the how and trust and have

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faith that if this is what I want, if this is what I'm striving for, I will get there

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in my own time.

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I will be guided, you know, in whatever you believe in the universe, God, source energy

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will guide me towards where I need to be headed and what my, you know, destination is.

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So, you know, I say that that is a lot easier said than done.

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It takes practice, you know, as you continue to evolve on your journey, new challenges

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are going to show up for you.

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It's kind of a never ending thing.

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So like I said, the biggest one for me was probably quitting my job to do something that

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I felt very called to do and very passionate about when on paper, it might not have made

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sense, you know, it's like, again, going from

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that safe, comfortable place to this very scary unknown place.

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But being able to work through that and do that makes me so much more confident moving

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forward whenever new things start to scare me, scare me or make me feel, you know, that

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unease or am I good enough or am I going to fail?

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It's like, you practice working through that.

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And, you know, sometimes in life, you kind of have to look at what deep down did I always

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want to do?

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Maybe that's something I wanted to do.

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So why wait?

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Let's just do it.

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And sometimes you think there's never going to be the perfect time where everything lines

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up and it seems like this is the time I should quit my job.

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Just go for it and then everything right falls into place, you know.

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It's definitely very scary.

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And to have faith in that unknown is like I said, it's a lot easier said than done.

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It took me years to get to that point where I actually made that leap.

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But now in hindsight, looking back, it's the greatest decision I have ever made.

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And I feel like when we when we feel that nudge and that tug within our heart and soul

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to do something for me, it was start a business, but it could be anything.

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You know, that's where we need to trust that inner voice more than we probably do, or at

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least more than I was at the time.

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We trust that voice and know that like if we're feeling called and pulled in a certain

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direction, listen to that.

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That is your sign and start to take those steps towards that the best you can.

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That's very inspiring because I think that all of us dream and have this little bucket

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list of things and we think, oh yeah, one day I will do it.

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And you know, maybe that's something that I will put off for now.

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And we just laid our days maybe like thinking about this in our minds and maybe just try

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and go for it.

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And that also leads perfectly to the next question, because we might have that support

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system in our lives.

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So let's talk a little bit about who helped you along this journey, which definitely sounds

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like what we see is like, oh, she's just so successful, but it took years to get there.

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So who helped you get there, who was the strongest people like we're standing on the sidelines?

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There are, so there are a few facets to this.

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You know, obviously the people that have played the biggest role would be like my husband,

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my friends, my family.

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I'm very, very, very grateful to have a very supportive inner circle that surrounds me.

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And I realize not everyone has that, you know, sometimes if you, you know, you tell your

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hopes and dreams to your family or friends, sometimes they're supportive.

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And sometimes they're like, wait, you're going to do that.

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Like are you sure?

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Like they kind of keep pushing that doubt.

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And so, you know, I don't ever want that to be something that holds somebody back because

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again, it's your life that you're living.

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If you are feeling called to do something, that responsibility is yours to keep taking

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those steps forward.

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But it absolutely helps when you have a good circle of people around you.

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And I was very grateful because, you know, there's a quote that's like, you know, you

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become like the five people that you spend most of your time with.

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And so that's where I, you know, I took that to heart and I encourage you to as well, like

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everyone listening, you know, you get to choose who you surround yourself.

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You may not get to choose the family you were born into, but you can choose the people that

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are going to be in your inner circle.

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And when you are living life from your aligned place, guess what?

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You're going to start attracting more people like that into your life.

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And I know for me, like as I was going through that transition of working full time into

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entrepreneurship, I started attracting more entrepreneurial friends into my inner circle.

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And then the things that I was doing that felt kind of crazy and out there and risky

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felt so much more normal.

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So having a very loving and supportive husband, having, you know, developing, I have a great

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friend network, but then also expanding that into people that were doing similar things

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that I was doing really made it helpful in taking that journey and continuing along that

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journey.

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things.

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So like my business partners in the app are like some of my best friends, like they're,

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you know, yes, they're business partners, but they're also like friends and they've

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helped support and help me grow my business to where it is today.

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The other thing, so the other facets, that's kind of like the in-person section of it.

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And, you know, I feel like sometimes it can feel hard to meet people, but again, that

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falls back into that faith and that trust that like, if you are putting yourself out

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there as authentically as you can, you are going to attract similar people into your

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life.

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But then we have this beautiful thing called the internet now and social media.

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And now we can connect with people all over the world.

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And that's one thing that I love is I've been able to connect with so many people that I

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never would have been able to before if it wasn't for the internet.

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But just like in-person friends, the same thing is going to happen online.

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So you know, if you're following a bunch of pages and things that don't inspire you and

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lift you up and make you feel excited to take on the day, you need to kind of audit who

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you're following and who you're allowing into your social media inner circle.

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me or aren't making me feel good, get them out of here.

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Like if you ever want to follow them again, go for it.

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But like clear them out and create that space for the people that you want to be inspiring

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you to fill in.

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And so that's what's really cool about the internet is you're able to connect with so

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many people that you never have before.

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I've been able to make many Instagram friends that literally live in different parts of

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the United States, different countries that I never would have been able to connect with

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otherwise.

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So that has been a really cool way to develop a support system that I would have never had

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So don't feel like, you know, if whatever it is you're striving for, if like your friends

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aren't, you know, kind of where you would like them to be, or you know, your social

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media isn't quite where you want it to be, allow there to be shift and change there and

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put yourself out there like you can create some really strong relationships nowadays,

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even if they're not people that like live in your town that you're like going to get

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coffee with in person, you can hop on a zoom call and have coffee with them or whatever.

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So yeah, and really responding to that, obviously, is that when you open your social media, you

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also look at it as that's your self care.

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So you want to maybe pamper your soul and pamper your mind with something that actually

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will make you happy and spark that joy.

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So looking at things that don't lead to that is going to be quite frustrating.

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And I did the same thing.

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I was kind of going through and I was like, why am I actually following these people?

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You know, I don't need to do this.

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Nobody forces me to do this.

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So I'm just going to let go and letting go is sometimes a really good way to nourish

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your soul because you're realizing that maybe that connection just fed negative energy into

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your life and you didn't need that.

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I know that there's one thing we say on the podcast a lot is be grateful for your triggers.

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So I know that like when there would be certain things that would trigger me in social media,

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it was like that gave me the opportunity to do work on why that's triggering.

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But that doesn't mean that you need to keep following those people and that you need to

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keep them there.

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You know, it's like you want to do that work yourself and see like, why is this bugging

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you so much?

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You know, that will give you like a lens of like, you know, diving deeper into your own

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self development journey, but you need to be very mindful of what you're keeping in

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there because again, you know, your thoughts create your reality around you.

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create a negative reality in your life.

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I feel like there have been so many life lessons I've learned through parenthood and becoming

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a mom because it does it really throws you for a loop.

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I mean, your entire world changes, your priorities shift and change.

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You know, you're not the same person after you have a baby and navigating that is a very

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beautiful thing.

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And you do you get so like, that has been probably one of my biggest themes the last

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12 months is then like, truly being present.

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meditation, but becoming a mom, I have really had to hone that skill in because it does

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it just all goes by in a blink of an eye.

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And so I do feel like that's one of the skills that I've really honed in on and mastered

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the last 12 months is is being present.

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It's a practice.

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It's something that you're going to have good days, you're going to have bad days, and that's

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okay.

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Like we just show up, we do our very best we can.

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And that's all we can really do.

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I did a mindfulness study with my students and I asked them, so you engage in mindfulness,

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you practice some breathwork, you go for walks, how you take care of yourself.

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And they gave me different examples.

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But the one thing is, I also asked them, why don't you do these things on a database?

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And they said, well, we just don't have time.

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And I told them that that will probably never change.

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It will probably just get more complex as you add those responsibilities to your life,

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whether it's getting a new pet, having a child, maybe purchasing a house, starting a really

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stressful job.

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The time is so challenging.

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And that's just something you have to be the master of your own destiny in your day.

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So how, how would you recommend?

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What's your biggest recommendation to manage time?

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So there are two things that I have to say about time management.

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And that being kind of one of those excuses that a lot of people say.

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And like, I'm not going to sit here and pretend like I've mastered it because there's no doubt

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in my mind, especially the last year, that not having enough time has been my excuse.

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But it's like, I need to practice what I preach because when you tell yourself, I don't have

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enough time to do this.

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I am so busy.

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I have so many things to do.

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I'm overwhelmed.

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I don't have enough time to do the self care practices I want to do.

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When you tell yourself that story, guess what?

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You're not going to have time.

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You're going to keep attracting no time, feeling busy, feeling overwhelmed into your life.

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But that's not always the case.

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You sometimes need to get a little creative.

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And like I said, I'm not going to sit here and pretend like I am the master of this because

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I'm still very much working through this myself.

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But an example would be I have two things that I've recently been doing to give myself

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that time.

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So I have to give up the fact that like, basically from the morning till the evening until Ava's

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in bed, during that time, it's challenging to do any real thing.

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And in so this morning, for example, I woke up before she woke up and I went down into

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our spare bedroom and I did a nice breathwork meditation to start my day.

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And then this evening, like so actually this last month has been a really big theme of

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mine is to take time in the evening to get back into my journaling practice.

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So those are two things that I'm making an effort to include into my day that that work

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really well.

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The other thing is asking for help.

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If you're feeling very overwhelmed, is there something like, you know, so my situation

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is now I've got this little baby that I'm taking care of.

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Well, I, you know, I also have, like I said, a great I have babysitters, I have my husband,

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like it's okay for me to let them take care of her for an evening a week and or whatever

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works for your schedule and then do the yoga class or do the breathwork session or go out

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for a coffee date or do those things.

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You just need to be very, you know, you need to be proactive about it.

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You need to schedule those things in and you need to find a way that works for where you

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at where you are at in life.

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And so no, it is my I used to have like a really long luxurious morning routine.

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And right now that's not a reality for me.

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And that's okay.

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I'm still finding those small ways to fill my cup as often as possible.

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And sometimes it's easier, you know, feels easier than others.

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But if you keep telling yourself, if that is the story you are telling yourself, I don't

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have time, I am too busy.

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I'm overwhelmed.

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You know, I'll do it tomorrow.

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Like that's never gonna end, you need to stop telling yourself that.

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And then you need to find that small way to start taking action.

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And that will start to build momentum and snowball into whatever that looks like for

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you.

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I sometimes tell my students, five minutes, you do have five minutes, you don't have five

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minutes in the day for yourself, you have a real problem.

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Right.

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It's just five minutes, five minutes of that breathwork, five minutes of that stretching

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as you talked about the journaling.

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And then once it becomes a habit, maybe you can add another five minutes segment into

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your day.

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Well, like little bit and then adding from there doesn't have to be an hour workout.

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We all have five or 10 minutes.

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If you know, I guarantee you're on your phone scrolling Instagram, scrolling Facebook for

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more than 10 minutes a day.

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So if you have that time, it is it's a choice and I realize it's not always the easiest

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to put the phone down and do something for your own mental wellness or overall wellness.

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But it's that choice.

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And when you start to make those decisions, yeah, it starts to snowball and it becomes

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and feels just part of your everyday life.

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It doesn't feel like you're doing anything super challenging and super hard.

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Yeah, because it becomes part of your habit.

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And sometimes I'm like a big scheduler.

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I just put it on my calendar, whatever, 830 at night stretching.

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And then it's on my calendar and it's like, oops, I guess I scheduled it.

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I thought it would be a good idea.

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And then once I'm done, I feel amazing.

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It's just the fact of doing it.

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But once it's on your calendar, it feels like you thought deep down that that's what you

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need.

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And you just sometimes need to think about how am I going to feel afterwards?

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I feel absolutely I feel my cup.

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And I spent five minutes doing something great for myself.

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I did that self care and it's never really selfish to do this.

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Let's remember the wellness Wednesday, the five minutes for yourself.

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Thank you so much, Mary, for being here.

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I really appreciate it.

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And I look forward to connecting soon again.

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And I'm going to do some stretching right now.

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Yes, sounds good.

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All right.

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Thank you so much.

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Thank you.

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Bye.

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All right.

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That's it for today's episode of the Happy Healthy Hustle podcast.

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I hope you enjoyed this wonderful recording of the 2022 Instagram live episode with Mary

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Ochsner.

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If you have any suggestions for future content or any feedback, please let me know.

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I would also love to share with you that I'm about to launch my Journey to Wellness program.

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And I'm sure that you as a happy, healthy hustler would love to be part of this wonderful

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21 day transformational program.

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It gives you some quick and easy tools that you can use at home to get your health journey

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started.

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Stay tuned.

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And until then, we'll catch you next time.