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And so I say your name, my name.

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Do I say hello or do I say my name?

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I think you just say this is true.

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Oh, that's right.

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I'm so sorry.

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That's OK.

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It's not like we've done it twice already.

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I think it's been twice.

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That's not many times.

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OK.

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This is Drew.

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And this is Olivia.

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And we are oddly curious forever.

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We're still working on the engine.

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Yeah.

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We're forever.

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Amen.

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I know why.

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The intro is so hard.

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I don't know how to make it less awkward.

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So Drew, what's been going on with you?

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Oh, well, I think in the last episode,

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I talked about how I was sick.

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And then I got better.

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And then I got sick again.

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I actually went to IKEA with one of my roommates.

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And we walked around for four hours.

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And I actually felt myself getting sick again

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while I was there.

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I never get sick.

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I've been sick for six weeks.

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And I'm finally better today.

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So that's my win.

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You've been sick since we started this podcast.

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Yes.

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Oh, no.

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I'm like, does that mean something?

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No, it doesn't.

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Other than that, I guess I'm happy to be healthy and alive.

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And drinking tea at your house.

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Yes.

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I'm glad you're drinking tea at my house too.

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What's going on with you?

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Let's see.

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I don't think anything too exciting.

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It's been, it feels like it's been a long week.

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What day is it?

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It's a Friday.

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I actually didn't remember when you asked.

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Yeah, it's been a long, discombobulated week.

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But I was talking to you about this a little bit before.

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So I just feel I have to tell this story

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because it's amusing to me.

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So I had stumbled upon this thing on TikTok

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that was new to me, where it was like people putting in

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all these fun flavored things into their water.

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So I was like, great.

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That sounds like it'd be something fun.

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So I went down to the Dollar Tree.

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I got a few flavors of like Sonic flavor.

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Which I didn't even know they were at the Dollar Tree.

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That's cool.

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I love the Dollar Tree.

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treat, because then I'm still getting hydrated.

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But it tastes good.

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because I don't like it super sweet.

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This is going to be a fun new drink.

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And it felt like I had done like a bunch of shots of tequila.

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Oh my gosh.

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And Sonic, what are you doing?

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But really it was just like sugar water.

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But is it actually sugar?

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Or is it like it's aspartame?

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Aspartame.

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Oh my gosh.

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But that's in Diet Coke.

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And so I was like, yeah.

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Oh, that should be fine for me.

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But apparently I don't do well with dyes.

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Like the dyes that are in foods like that.

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I hate that when you're trying to be healthy,

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you actually, your body punishes you.

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And then if like, surprise, this actually

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has like a bunch of chemicals in it.

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You're not being healthy.

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What about like the Mio drops?

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Probably the Mio.

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I don't think those are probably good.

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I've tried those before.

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They didn't make me feel anything.

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But I don't like it too sweet.

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So it's like I do less.

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I do like a drop for like 40 ounces.

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But it really helps you drink like a gallon of water

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if you want, because it's like treat water.

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I'm like, it's delicious water.

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I mean, I already like water.

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Yeah, me actually.

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Yeah, me too.

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I'm like, don't.

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We're like, we like water.

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We like it.

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Don't worry.

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But anyway, I'm like, I'll just stick with Diet Coke

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because it doesn't make me feel good.

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Oh, I figured to be like, I'll stick with tea.

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I'm like, well, Diet Coke works too.

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I mean, pretty much any beverage that doesn't make me feel

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it's because we're beverage, we're beverage,

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we're beverage friends.

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We're beverage girlies.

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Because it's like, we're not happy until we have three beverages

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at once.

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It's true.

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So anyway.

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Yeah, anyway.

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I don't even know if I'm going to have Roman Lee

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that in.

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But yeah, there we go.

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It's just, I do like the idea of drinking a lot of water.

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And sometimes water, as much as I like it,

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it's like, this is boring.

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I need excitement in my life.

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I'm like, I'll just stick with liquid IV.

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It's, oh, see that I like.

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I don't know who I was trying to be.

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Trying to be fun, whatever.

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Well, I don't know.

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I feel like the people that can handle the sonic things,

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I'm like, they probably have iron stavix.

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I do not.

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I do not, either.

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Anyway.

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So I believe it is my turn to go first this week.

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You are going first this week.

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I'm nervous.

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And I'm excited.

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I don't know why I'm nervous.

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I mean, I guess it's only our third recording.

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Yeah.

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But still.

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But this.

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You're a pro at this by now.

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Thank you.

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Thanks.

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This is a topic that I haven't interested in in a long time.

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In a long time.

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For a long time.

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For a long time.

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There we go.

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You love it long time.

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Oh.

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Oh, no.

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I'm sorry.

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Roman cut that out.

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Oh.

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Oh, god.

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We should also say we're recording kind of late

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so we're a little punchy.

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But anyway.

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Anyway.

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I'm sorry.

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I've been interested in this case for a long time.

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Yes.

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And I've listened to a lot of different podcasts about it.

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So I wanted to do it.

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And it is the disappearance of Alisa Lam.

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Oh, man.

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This is going to be good in a horrifying way.

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I know.

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It's the fact that you're doing it because I feel like you have

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always been interested in it.

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And you're going to treat it respectfully.

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And I feel like we've always had really good discussions

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about it.

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So this is going to be a good one.

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It's a very sad one.

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But it's also interesting.

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So my sources for this topic were an article on all things

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interesting, an article on investigation discovery

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by Aaron Rasmussen, and then a podcast

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that I really like called Stuff They Don't

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Want You to Know Podcast, which sounds

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like it'd be a conspiracy theory podcast.

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But it's not really.

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I've listened to them before, too.

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And they're great.

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I think they are very intelligent the way

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they bring about the topic.

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And they're also very respectful about this case as well.

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Oh, perfect.

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So let's jump into the case.

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So on January 26, 2013, Alisa Lam arrived in LA.

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Alisa was a student of the University of British Columbia

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visiting the US.

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Her plan was to travel all throughout California,

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and she called it her West Coast tour.

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And it was a solo trip.

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But during her travels, she regularly

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updated her travel blog and checked in with her parents

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each day just so people could know where she was

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and know that she was safe.

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So while in LA, Alisa was staying at the Cecil Hotel.

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And this is an infamous hotel that any true crime fan knows

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about.

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It's a hotel on Skid Row that has been host to serial killers,

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including Richard Ramirez when he was active.

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There's been many suicides there and just overall a lot

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of criminal activity.

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So it's already bad for a young woman traveling alone

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to be in this place.

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Bad vibes.

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I've always wondered about the suicides.

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Is it people that go there and they're in a place in life

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where they're like, this is my plan?

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Or is it because just being there to press them further?

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And they were like, I got to get out of here.

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Or yeah.

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One of the things that they talked about on stuff

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they all want you to know is that even if you don't believe,

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which I don't, in places being haunted,

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there are just places that have bad vibes.

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I agree.

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And I think if you're in a place like that long enough,

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then it kind of starts to rub off on you.

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Because we're very influence.

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We are.

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Influensible.

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It is now.

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It is now.

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Yeah.

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And I think isn't Cecil Hotel, I mean,

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the building is still standing.

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But they've changed it because they wanted to give it

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like a fresh glow up.

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But I feel like we have also talked about how we've always

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wanted to go there.

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We have.

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Yes.

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And not stay there.

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Not stay there.

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I like they were like, it has really bad vibes.

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So when are we going?

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We just want to visit it.

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We do.

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And hopefully see it.

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Hopefully it's a more well kept.

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I mean, it's a good building.

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It is.

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So anyway, Alisa's parents didn't hear from her on January 31.

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And this was very unusual for her.

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So they began to worry.

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And they contacted the Los Angeles Police Department.

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And a couple of weeks had passed since anyone

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had heard from Alisa.

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And then the hotel began to receive complaints

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about water pressure, as well as the water being discolored

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and foul tasting from several of the people staying there.

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So worker Santiago Lopez went to the roof

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and scaled the ladder attached to one of the four water

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towers.

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When he got to the top, the hatch on the water tower

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was open.

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And he discovered the nude body of Alisa Lam

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floating face up.

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She was found with her clothes floating next to her.

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And there was no sign of sexual assault or foul play.

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Or later the coroner even said it didn't look like it was

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suicide.

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So it was ruled an accidental drowning.

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The question is, how did this happen?

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The only evidence was footage from the day

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that Alisa disappeared.

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And this is very famous footage.

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If you are all familiar with this case

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and you're able to see it on YouTube,

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nothing happens in the video.

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So it's not anything disturbing other than she looks

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like she either is scared or not in her right mind.

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Yeah, I always thought it's not disturbing,

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but knowing it's the last time you see her alive.

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Yeah.

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And some people have analyzed it.

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It looks like she's either talking to somebody, right?

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Or maybe talking to herself.

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I think there's a part of it that's a little bit,

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maybe it's just sad that it's like, this is it.

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Yeah.

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And getting into that footage now.

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Oh, I'm so sorry.

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No.

321
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OK.

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You're like, stop talking.

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So in the footage, she steps in and out of the elevator,

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poking her head out toward the hotel hallways.

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And she looks out another few times

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before exiting the elevator.

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And she, oh, I'm so sorry.

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You know what?

329
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I'm going to have Roman edit that part.

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Robin.

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So the footage shows her stepping into the elevator.

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And then she pushes all the buttons.

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So then the doors are open.

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And she steps in and out of the elevator a few times,

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poking her head out towards the hotel hallways.

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She looks out another few times before exiting the elevator.

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And during this time, she's seen moving her hands

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in random gestures.

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And like you said, at times, it appears

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like she is talking to herself or talking to someone else.

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So people have wondered if maybe she was being followed

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by someone and she was trying to get people's attention,

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or if she was having some sort of episode

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and was just talking to herself.

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And Alisa had previously been diagnosed with bipolar disorder

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and was on medication for it.

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And the coroner believes that this footage and her getting

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into the water tower, seemingly of her own volition,

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were part of a manic episode and that her death was just

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a tragic accident.

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But of course, with any true crime story,

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there are other theories as to what happened.

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So one is, of course, people wonder about foul play.

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Many people doubted that she would be able to get up

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to the roof and climb the water tower on her own.

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Because it was supposed to, the door to the roof

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was supposed to be locked.

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But from everything we know about the hotel at the time,

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it would not be surprising if some of the staff didn't

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lock up like they were supposed to.

361
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Right.

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And it would have been hard for her

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to climb to the actual water tower

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because there was a 10 foot ladder that would help her get up.

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But some noted that the fact that the lid of the water

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tower was between 30 to 50 pounds, it might have been

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difficult for petite little Elisa to lift

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because she was a petite woman.

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And then some, of course, thought

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that something supernatural was at play

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due to the hotel's violent history

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and the superstitions around that.

373
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But one particularly interesting and out there theory

374
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was that her death was somehow linked to playing

375
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the elevator game.

376
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Have you heard of the elevator game?

377
00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:10,800
Yeah, I think so.

378
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But I'm really excited that you're going to tell me right now.

379
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Yes, I am.

380
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So the game is said to take you to a different plane

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of existence that looks similar to yours.

382
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You emerge and everything is the same,

383
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but all the lights are off and you

384
00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:28,480
can see a red cross in the distance.

385
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Why it's a red cross?

386
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I don't know why.

387
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Red cross as in like the institution.

388
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Not the institution.

389
00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:35,880
I don't know.

390
00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:39,360
In my mind, I'm like it's a very Stanley Kubrick

391
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type of imagery of just like a glowing red cross.

392
00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:43,080
OK, yeah.

393
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I see it.

394
00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:48,040
I mean, I don't see it right now.

395
00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:50,280
It is not in the room with us.

396
00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:54,440
I'm like blink twice if you are in a different dimension.

397
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Do you see a red cross?

398
00:14:56,160 --> 00:15:00,000
Well, if you manage to reach this plane,

399
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returning to your world would be difficult.

400
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And if you were actually on that plane,

401
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I would not be right here because you

402
00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:11,040
would be the only living thing on that plane of existence.

403
00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:14,360
How do we know that it exists?

404
00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:15,920
I don't know.

405
00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:20,840
But I am going to get into it's like this sort of like

406
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on there like on Reddit or whatever they're like source.

407
00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:27,000
Trust me, bro.

408
00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,640
And that's pretty much what I'm going to say right now.

409
00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:30,240
Trust me, bro.

410
00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:30,800
Trust me, bro.

411
00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:32,920
Here are the rules for the game.

412
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So only one person can play at a time.

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It has to be performed in a building at least 10 stories

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00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:40,600
high with an elevator.

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You enter the elevator on the first floor by yourself.

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If anyone else enters with you, you cannot continue.

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You press the button for the fourth floor.

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When it reaches the fourth floor, stay inside and press

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the button for the second floor.

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Stay in when you reach the second floor

421
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and press the button for the sixth floor.

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Don't get out.

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Go back to the second floor.

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Once you're back at the second floor,

425
00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:04,800
press the button for the tenth floor.

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And if you hear anything calling to you on the second

427
00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,240
floor, don't answer.

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00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:11,120
Once you get to the tenth floor,

429
00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:13,280
press the button for the fifth floor.

430
00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:15,960
When you get to the fifth floor, a woman will enter and try

431
00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:17,000
to talk to you.

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Don't speak to her.

433
00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:19,440
Don't look at her.

434
00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:21,760
Press the button for the first floor.

435
00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:24,640
If the ritual worked, you will start going up to the tenth

436
00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,000
floor instead of to the first floor.

437
00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:30,080
When you reach the tenth floor, you can stay inside or exit

438
00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:31,160
the elevator.

439
00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,640
The only way to know that you've traveled to the other world

440
00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:37,520
for sure is that you'll be the only living thing there.

441
00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:38,400
Oh my gosh.

442
00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:40,520
First of all, there are so many numbers.

443
00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:41,040
Right.

444
00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:44,160
I'd be like, I'm bad at math.

445
00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:45,360
Am I on the fifth floor?

446
00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:46,960
I don't remember.

447
00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:47,360
I know.

448
00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:52,240
I'm like, I don't know how you would do this without someone

449
00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:54,480
noticing, because personally, I would have to write this all

450
00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:57,160
down to remember any of it.

451
00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:59,760
And then what if someone just gets into the elevator

452
00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:02,360
and you're like, no, don't talk to me.

453
00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:04,240
You're the one.

454
00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:06,640
This girl's a real jerk.

455
00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:08,160
She's like, hey, can I get directions?

456
00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:11,720
And you're like, I can't look at you.

457
00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:16,360
But anyway, I thought that was a very fascinating.

458
00:17:16,360 --> 00:17:18,520
Also, this is very scary sounding.

459
00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:19,400
It is very scary.

460
00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:21,080
It's like, mom, pick me up.

461
00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:22,200
I'm scared.

462
00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:23,120
Scenarios.

463
00:17:23,120 --> 00:17:24,920
It kind of reminds me.

464
00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:27,040
It's like reminding me of an episode of Welcome to Night Vale

465
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or something.

466
00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:28,320
Yeah.

467
00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:29,720
Oh, yeah.

468
00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:31,320
Or the Twilight Zone.

469
00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:32,680
Or the Twilight Zone, definitely.

470
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OG.

471
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Or the OG.

472
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So although urban legends like this

473
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are very interesting to discuss and think about,

474
00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:45,080
it is most likely that Elisa did, in fact, accidentally drown.

475
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Only Elisa truly knows what her mental state was at the time

476
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and the severity of her mental illness.

477
00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:52,800
No matter what you choose to believe,

478
00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,200
it's a tragedy that such a young woman with her whole life

479
00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:58,040
ahead of her had her life cut short.

480
00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:01,080
And that is the sad story of the disappearance

481
00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,520
and mysterious death of Elisa Lam.

482
00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:04,600
Oh, man.

483
00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:08,240
This one always gets to me because it's like,

484
00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,560
we understand how mental illness can really

485
00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:14,960
affect your day-to-day life.

486
00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,320
And I mean, sometimes you can just

487
00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:20,880
be in a place where you're like, I'm not doing well.

488
00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:22,160
You're alone.

489
00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:24,720
You're in a different country.

490
00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:26,040
I mean, who knows?

491
00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:27,240
She might have been scared.

492
00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:31,000
She was young and impressionable.

493
00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:35,760
And the fact that I don't know, the part of her clothes being

494
00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:41,240
off, I always imagined that she took them off to swim.

495
00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:45,760
Or I don't even know.

496
00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:48,360
Who would take them off of her?

497
00:18:48,360 --> 00:18:49,520
I don't know.

498
00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:52,000
Yeah, especially like the coroner said,

499
00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:55,040
there was no evidence of sexual assault.

500
00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:58,040
I mean, of course, I always have Paul Holes

501
00:18:58,040 --> 00:18:59,280
in the back of my mind.

502
00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:01,960
He always says, there doesn't have to be a sexual assault

503
00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:06,120
for there to be a sexual gratification for someone

504
00:19:06,120 --> 00:19:07,280
who is killing.

505
00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:08,480
Yes.

506
00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:10,000
Which is an unfortunate truth.

507
00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:11,200
It is unfortunate truth.

508
00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:14,000
But I also always have to remember that.

509
00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:15,680
I mean, I don't know why I have to remember that.

510
00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:16,760
I'm not.

511
00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:21,600
You're like, every day you're like, hey, it's gratification.

512
00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:23,000
I don't know.

513
00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:24,600
You're like, people are bad?

514
00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:25,640
I don't.

515
00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:27,960
I'm like just telling people, do you know?

516
00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,720
Do you know that there doesn't have to be a sexual assault?

517
00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:31,960
Yeah.

518
00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:35,760
Well, and she was in the water for so long

519
00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,000
because people were starting to taste.

520
00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:38,360
I know.

521
00:19:38,360 --> 00:19:41,920
Which is the thought alone is like,

522
00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:43,360
I feel bad for those people.

523
00:19:43,360 --> 00:19:48,280
But I also feel devastated for her family, that whole idea.

524
00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:55,480
But could DNA or anything that would prove sexual assault

525
00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:59,640
have been, I guess, washed away or degraded?

526
00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:01,280
So I don't know.

527
00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:04,440
But also, who in their right mind is

528
00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:06,720
drinking California tap water anyway?

529
00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:12,440
That is a real thing because I grew up going to San Diego

530
00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:13,800
to visit my grandparents.

531
00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,640
And everyone had colagin water.

532
00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,360
Like if you were going to drink the tap water,

533
00:20:19,360 --> 00:20:21,600
they would slap the cup out of your hand.

534
00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:22,320
Rightfully so.

535
00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:22,960
Rightfully so.

536
00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,600
Because I remember even one time being like, oh my gosh.

537
00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:27,800
Like I got it out of the tap and I was like sniffing it.

538
00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:29,360
I'm like, what happened?

539
00:20:29,360 --> 00:20:31,400
And they're like, oh yeah, you have to boil it

540
00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:32,280
if you want to drink it.

541
00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:36,480
And this is a state in the United States

542
00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:38,280
who are like, do not drink this water.

543
00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,680
Even the filtered water because whenever we would go

544
00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:44,320
to Disneyland, when we first started going,

545
00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,760
I would just ask for water at one of the restaurants.

546
00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,480
And I'm like, this is the worst tasting water ever.

547
00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,280
And I'm like, that's how they get you

548
00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:53,920
to spend so much money on bottled water

549
00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:55,560
because they know the water's trash.

550
00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:57,480
I mean, even if the water is OK to drink

551
00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:59,560
because it's like clearly it's safe to drink,

552
00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:03,040
it tastes weird because they have like, there are,

553
00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:07,040
I mean, who knows how many processes it had to go through.

554
00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,680
And weird things had to be added, which I mean,

555
00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:11,320
they probably have fluoride in it.

556
00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,560
So good teeth maybe.

557
00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:15,120
But that's our PSA.

558
00:21:15,120 --> 00:21:17,760
Don't drink California water or hotel water.

559
00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:18,840
Yeah.

560
00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:20,600
Yeah, don't drink hotel water.

561
00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:21,960
No.

562
00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:22,920
Oh, man.

563
00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:26,480
I mean, I guess in a way they felt.

564
00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:27,760
We have talked about water a lot.

565
00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:29,760
We have.

566
00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:30,440
And you know what?

567
00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:34,000
My story is a lot of water in it.

568
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,200
Not to be disrespectful to Elisa Lam.

569
00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:36,920
It's just funny.

570
00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:37,840
I'm like, oh my.

571
00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:39,520
I know.

572
00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,120
I am not trying to make light of this story at all.

573
00:21:42,120 --> 00:21:46,160
But truly, when I read that they were drinking the water

574
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:47,640
and they're like, oh, it tastes funny.

575
00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:49,160
I'm like, I don't know.

576
00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,320
I don't know if that I would notice anything different.

577
00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:52,600
I'd be like, oh, it's just California.

578
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:54,000
Yeah, I know.

579
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:55,280
But I mean, I guess.

580
00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,480
You know, there's Californians listening or like, hey.

581
00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,560
And then they're like, we know.

582
00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,320
They're like, that's why we have our filter.

583
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:06,840
That's why Collagen will be forever in business.

584
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,320
But I do remember when I would, I mean,

585
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,280
like at my grandparents' house, I would brush my teeth

586
00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:13,720
with tap water.

587
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:14,520
You know what?

588
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,840
I think that is what there was like a couple interviewed

589
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,560
that they were one of the ones that had complained to the staff.

590
00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,240
And I think I remember them saying it was when

591
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:23,000
they're brushing their teeth.

592
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:23,320
Yeah.

593
00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:23,840
So you're right.

594
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,080
Which is the worst time, because you're like,

595
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,080
I'm wanting my mouth to be clean.

596
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,080
Why is this water bumming my mouth out so bad?

597
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:31,440
Yeah.

598
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:32,920
And they were, oh, gosh.

599
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,120
I remember there were like tourists from another country.

600
00:22:35,120 --> 00:22:39,560
And I'm like, what a horrible experience to go to a hotel.

601
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:43,320
And then you find out why the water tastes bad.

602
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,760
And then there's like this tragic murder of this young girl

603
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:46,600
while you're there.

604
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:47,080
Yeah.

605
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:48,440
That would be traumatic.

606
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,400
And they have not visited since.

607
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,120
They went back and they're like, never again.

608
00:22:53,120 --> 00:22:54,440
They're like, no.

609
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,040
California, you had your chance.

610
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:57,920
You ruined it.

611
00:22:57,920 --> 00:22:58,920
We like you, California.

612
00:22:58,920 --> 00:22:59,160
Yeah.

613
00:22:59,160 --> 00:22:59,840
Well, yeah, we do.

614
00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:00,760
I mean, come on.

615
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,720
We love you so much.

616
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:07,200
But we just don't like your water.

617
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:08,400
Or your traffic.

618
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:09,080
Come on.

619
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,600
Get it together.

620
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,040
It just started turning like a stand up for today.

621
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,680
No.

622
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:17,400
I remember.

623
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:23,800
So we have talked about the Cease the Hotel documentary,

624
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:25,960
how it's not great.

625
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,880
But one thing it did remind me of,

626
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,680
this was a time when Tumblr was big.

627
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,280
Alisa was a Tumblr girl.

628
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:34,000
Yes, she was.

629
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,720
And I'm thinking, I think of all the weird stuff

630
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,920
that has come out of Tumblr to this day.

631
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:43,040
But really back in like what year was it again?

632
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:43,680
2013.

633
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:48,760
I was going to say, like 2010 to 2013 was like Tumblr heyday,

634
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:49,520
I think.

635
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:49,960
Oh, yeah.

636
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:50,800
We were on the trenches.

637
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:51,400
Oh, yeah.

638
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:52,880
We were both there.

639
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,200
I won't talk about what I've done.

640
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:56,400
I didn't do anything weird.

641
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,840
I'm just like, it sounds like you killed the man.

642
00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,800
No, I really just like reblogged a lot of pictures

643
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,640
of Benedict cover batch.

644
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,560
I was a different person then.

645
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,040
2013 Tumblr.

646
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:10,680
It was a time to be alive.

647
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:11,440
It was.

648
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:15,480
But it makes me wonder if the elevator game was something

649
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,440
that was talked about on there.

650
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,520
Because that was also like during this Lenderman era

651
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,920
or Creepypasta.

652
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:25,680
That really became a thing.

653
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:29,360
And a lot of people believed Creepypastas,

654
00:24:29,360 --> 00:24:30,800
they're not real.

655
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:34,800
But it makes you wonder if she was in a psychotic episode

656
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,600
and she read this, she's like, oh, that's

657
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:38,800
something I could do.

658
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,200
It just makes you think.

659
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:42,040
The internet.

660
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:42,680
Yeah.

661
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:46,280
I remember another thing they talked about on the podcast

662
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:51,480
was that her, I think it was her Tumblr account,

663
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:56,800
that it was like a month after she had been found.

664
00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:01,800
There was a picture that had just been posted on her Tumblr

665
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:02,920
account.

666
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:07,080
And they're theorizing us how that happened.

667
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,200
Did someone have, must have had access to her?

668
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:09,800
Yeah.

669
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,400
But it was such a random picture.

670
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:15,480
It was a picture of a light bulb.

671
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,440
But inside the light bulb, there was this little snowy

672
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,920
landscape and a snow globe.

673
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,840
Kind of like a snow globe in a light bulb.

674
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:24,680
Oh, interesting.

675
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:28,600
But I was like, either she scheduled that to be posted

676
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:29,560
at a certain time.

677
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,320
Because you can do that if I remember my Tumblr correctly.

678
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,120
You could schedule posts.

679
00:25:34,120 --> 00:25:34,640
Yeah.

680
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,400
Because it was a cue.

681
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:37,760
I know too much about Tumblr.

682
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:41,600
Please don't think of me as a Tumblr president.

683
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,800
I mean, we are at that age.

684
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:44,240
Yeah.

685
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,320
I mean, I'm a lot older than you.

686
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,000
But we are both in the era.

687
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:50,520
So yeah.

688
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:51,960
We're both millennials.

689
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:53,200
We are.

690
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,360
But yeah, I think that could have been a scheduled post.

691
00:25:55,360 --> 00:25:57,920
But either way, that is actually kind of unnerving

692
00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:58,960
that that would happen.

693
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:03,120
That would make me worry even more if I was her family.

694
00:26:03,120 --> 00:26:04,280
Me too.

695
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,440
Has access to this, if anyone does.

696
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,320
Yeah.

697
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,560
I don't like that even to this day.

698
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,320
I mean, that's been 10 years now.

699
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,800
They don't have any more evidence.

700
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:16,520
I know.

701
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:22,680
And the family also tried to sue for negligence

702
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,120
of the hotel.

703
00:26:24,120 --> 00:26:27,200
But the judge dismissed it because it

704
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:31,480
was such an extraordinary circumstance.

705
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,720
If you were thinking of someone in their right state of mind,

706
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,320
you would never think, oh, someone's

707
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,400
going to go up to the roof and climb into the water tower.

708
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:40,640
So it was dismissed.

709
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,640
But I feel bad for the family.

710
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,560
Because I'm sure they still blame the hotel,

711
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,720
even though it doesn't sound like it was their fault.

712
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,760
Right.

713
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,040
That's just a tragedy.

714
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:58,120
And I really hope someday more evidence comes to light.

715
00:26:58,120 --> 00:27:01,080
Or I hope someone's not giving up on that case.

716
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,560
Because you know, I mean, Los Angeles,

717
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,600
they have their fair share of things happening where they

718
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,760
might have to put their manpower elsewhere.

719
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,560
But you're like, please don't give up on these cold cases.

720
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:11,840
Yeah.

721
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:16,640
And even if it is, that just she died accidentally.

722
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,640
I'm sure the family would like to know what

723
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:23,040
the last hours of her life were.

724
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,080
So anyway, that was very good.

725
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:26,560
That's my sad case.

726
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:27,520
Yeah.

727
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:28,760
That was really good.

728
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:33,440
And I appreciate learning about the elevator game.

729
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,040
So when are we going to do this?

730
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:35,540
No.

731
00:27:35,540 --> 00:27:36,520
I'm just kidding.

732
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,200
I'm like, this is too weird.

733
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:39,880
I'm like, I don't know.

734
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,440
It just looks so dumb.

735
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,080
The Shiloh Inn.

736
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:45,600
I don't know.

737
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:46,440
I'm just reading.

738
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:47,280
Like, what hotel?

739
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:48,280
What?

740
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,200
It has to be 10 stories.

741
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,120
Where is even a 10 story building that we could go to?

742
00:27:53,120 --> 00:27:54,400
I don't know.

743
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:55,960
We'll have to plan this one.

744
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,960
We need to go to the Empire State Building,

745
00:27:59,960 --> 00:28:01,800
the ultimate elevator game.

746
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,080
But you would never be able to get it to yourself.

747
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:06,120
That's true.

748
00:28:06,120 --> 00:28:06,620
Oh, yeah.

749
00:28:06,620 --> 00:28:07,680
I thought I know that part.

750
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,160
You can't get on this elevator.

751
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,640
I'm doing something.

752
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,080
So many angry tourists.

753
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,040
I know.

754
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:16,880
Yeah.

755
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,200
But oh well.

756
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,200
Thank you for sharing.

757
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:22,320
Do you want to take a break?

758
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:23,040
Yes.

759
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,560
Let's take a break, and we will be back for more.

760
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:34,960
So with your story, I'm going to take a hard left, I guess,

761
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,200
depending on where you're standing.

762
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:41,000
Anyway, I'm going straight to the Atlantic Ocean.

763
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:42,840
We're just heading straight over there.

764
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:47,400
And I'm going to tell you, Olivia, about the Bermuda

765
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:48,720
Triangle.

766
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,400
I'm so excited.

767
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,800
Eight-year-old me would be very excited about this.

768
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:55,520
Current me is also excited about this.

769
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,400
This is one of those things you learn when you're eight

770
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:02,480
and you're like, what is happening to this world?

771
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,120
Why aren't we doing something about this?

772
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,840
Kind of like quicksand where you're like, oh my gosh.

773
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:09,880
And then you become an adult and you're like, oh,

774
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:11,760
there's worse things out there.

775
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:12,260
Yeah.

776
00:29:12,260 --> 00:29:13,880
And then when you're a kid, you're like, well, obviously,

777
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,240
my biggest problems are the Bermuda Triangle and quicksand.

778
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:18,120
Those are my priorities.

779
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:18,800
Yeah.

780
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:20,360
And then so you find out about it,

781
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,480
and you go home after school, and you're

782
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,120
trying to tell your mom everything you've

783
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:25,840
learned about the Bermuda Triangle.

784
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:30,560
And she's like, please just let me cook dinner.

785
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,600
Or I'm balancing my checkbook.

786
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,240
So anyway, we're going to talk about this.

787
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,960
And why is it the way it is?

788
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:44,000
So my sources for, what did I wrote?

789
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:45,160
Resources.

790
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:45,680
No.

791
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:50,680
My sources for Bermuda Triangle are an article

792
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:55,480
by Kim Dismont Robinson called Bermuda Triangle

793
00:29:55,480 --> 00:30:03,400
Demystified in Cyclopedia Britannica and our One True

794
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:04,720
Love Wikipedia.

795
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:05,160
Yay.

796
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:06,760
Yay.

797
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:11,080
OK, so the Bermuda Triangle.

798
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,880
This is one of those places in the world,

799
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,040
in our modern world, I guess, that still have this aura

800
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:21,400
of mystery of, I mean, it still exists.

801
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:27,080
It's on our globe, but it's kind of like, what is actually

802
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:28,760
happening over there?

803
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,840
And this is a section of the North Atlantic Ocean

804
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,360
off the South Eastern coast of North America,

805
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,080
so off of the Florida coast.

806
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:43,240
And this is an area where at least 50 ships and 20 airplanes

807
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,720
are have said to mysteriously disappear.

808
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:46,680
Oh my goodness.

809
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:47,520
Yeah.

810
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:51,720
This area have boundaries that are not really

811
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:55,840
universally agreed upon, but the vague triangular shape

812
00:30:55,840 --> 00:31:01,320
we're going to make in our brain is so the lower point

813
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,200
will be Florida, the panhandle.

814
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,000
I guess, like Miami.

815
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,080
And then up North, which I like geography,

816
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,280
that's one of my favorite subjects in school.

817
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:16,360
I did not, in my brain, I did not remember

818
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:21,760
that Bermuda is north of Florida.

819
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:25,040
And I always think of the Caribbean islands

820
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,160
as being south of the Florida Keys.

821
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,240
Like in my head, I'm like, oh, they're all down there.

822
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:30,720
No.

823
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:36,120
See, I don't have really any concept of north, south, east,

824
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:37,360
west.

825
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,080
You know, I have a really bad sense of direction.

826
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,360
I'm like, I can't do left or right to save my life.

827
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:43,120
I can do that.

828
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:44,000
So together.

829
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,880
Together, we will get out of whatever we're in.

830
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:48,560
Probably.

831
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,560
Probably.

832
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:55,680
Maybe not the Bermuda Triangle, but probably not.

833
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,040
But were you going to say that you knew where Bermuda was?

834
00:31:58,040 --> 00:31:58,440
No.

835
00:31:58,440 --> 00:31:58,960
Oh.

836
00:31:58,960 --> 00:31:59,840
I was like, we're.

837
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:00,840
I'm just saying.

838
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:01,320
She's so smart.

839
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:02,200
I'm still impressed.

840
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:02,800
Oh, OK.

841
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:04,280
Because I don't know any of that.

842
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:05,520
Well, I guess.

843
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,840
I mean, if you look at the map, which let me look it up

844
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:15,360
really quick, because boy, well, I look silly if I'm wrong.

845
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:16,800
We'll just cut all of that.

846
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:17,720
Yeah.

847
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:21,480
Bermuda, which, man, let's go to Bermuda.

848
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,240
All of these places I talk about when I would look them up,

849
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:29,120
I would be like, yeah, I'm down any time you want to go.

850
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:33,720
So yeah, Bermuda is kind of just really out there.

851
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:37,560
It's surrounded by so much empty water,

852
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:43,200
and it is parallel to South Carolina, which I did not even

853
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:43,520
realize.

854
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:44,000
Interesting.

855
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:44,440
Right?

856
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,480
But it's so far from South Carolina.

857
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,600
So it's like you're thinking, oh, it's, you know, you can see it.

858
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:49,440
You can't.

859
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:54,000
But if you just drew a line, you just head straight into it.

860
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,000
And so that's the tip of the top.

861
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:57,560
Nope.

862
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:01,480
That is the tip of our triangle is Bermuda.

863
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:08,240
So we have Miami, Bermuda, and then the lower left, nope,

864
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,920
right sink, dang it, point would be greater

865
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:13,640
in Tillies or Puerto Rico.

866
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:14,920
So we have our little triangle.

867
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,160
What's really weird is if you look it up,

868
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,080
sometimes people think that that point could actually

869
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:29,480
be Chesapeake Bay or even I read that some people will even

870
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:34,360
stretch this triangle to the Irish Sea, which it's like,

871
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:35,920
is that even a triangle shape anymore?

872
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:36,600
I guess it is.

873
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,960
But it's just like a really skinny head triangle.

874
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:41,240
We have to draw this out.

875
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,200
Yeah.

876
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,000
I'm like, so that's not the Bermuda triangle anymore.

877
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:47,600
That's the Irish Sea triangle.

878
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,840
What's going on in Irish Sea?

879
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:50,840
I saw Solies.

880
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:52,520
I don't know.

881
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:56,480
Anyway, so let's just stick with our regular triangle

882
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,480
that we know.

883
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,800
This is sometimes called the Devil's Triangle,

884
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:07,640
the limbo of the Lost, the Twilight Zone, which I mean,

885
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:11,040
which came first, that or the TV show, you wonder,

886
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,920
or the Houdou Sea.

887
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:14,760
Such an interesting thing.

888
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,640
I know.

889
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:22,400
And then so this is an area that covers 500,000 square miles

890
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:29,160
of Atlantic Ocean, which, real talk,

891
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,880
did you know that there is a garbage patch floating

892
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,440
in the ocean, which I mean, yes, we do.

893
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:35,680
Yeah.

894
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:36,640
I'm answering that for you.

895
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:37,280
You know that.

896
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:38,040
I do know that.

897
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:38,680
Yeah.

898
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:42,200
Because we talked about it before.

899
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:43,880
So this is actually in the Pacific.

900
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:45,400
But I think we looked it up and there's

901
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,920
like garbage patches all over the world, which is really sad.

902
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:48,520
What was it like?

903
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,280
The five main garbage patches.

904
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,440
Yeah.

905
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,280
Our world is falling apart.

906
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:56,440
And yeah.

907
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:57,040
It's all trash.

908
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:57,840
It's all trash.

909
00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:59,040
The ocean is trash.

910
00:35:01,720 --> 00:35:06,400
So the Bermuda Triangle is 500,000 square miles.

911
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:12,760
This garbage patch is two times the size of the Bermuda

912
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:13,800
Triangle.

913
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,400
I hate that.

914
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,440
Yes, which then I was thinking about it.

915
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,480
Like, I haven't really seen pictures.

916
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,480
I think it would bum me out too much to see it.

917
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:22,920
But is this structurally sound?

918
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,480
Could this actually become a new land?

919
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,560
Could we create garbage patch island?

920
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,080
Is that like how long island happened?

921
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:32,640
Oh, yeah.

922
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:33,440
I don't know.

923
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,960
People in Long Island are like, why I ought to?

924
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:37,920
If that's not true, I'm sorry.

925
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:38,800
I know.

926
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:39,600
I'm sure there.

927
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:43,120
I mean, I know that our places that have like dump sites

928
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:44,480
that have become places.

929
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:45,160
Yeah.

930
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,760
But like, it's not an insult.

931
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:48,160
No.

932
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,400
It's just, I mean, I thought you were going to be like,

933
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:51,600
isn't that how Hawaii happened?

934
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:52,760
And I'm like, no, wait.

935
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,040
No, that was a volcano.

936
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,000
This is like a trash volcano.

937
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,320
I'm aware that Hawaii is a volcano.

938
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,800
I don't know why.

939
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,240
Hawaii is like, we are actually beautiful and stunning

940
00:36:05,240 --> 00:36:06,720
and get your garbage away from me.

941
00:36:06,720 --> 00:36:07,480
I know Hawaii.

942
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,040
I never want to leave you.

943
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:10,000
Oh, no.

944
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:10,720
Let's go there.

945
00:36:10,720 --> 00:36:11,040
OK.

946
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,040
OK.

947
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:17,600
So funny is like, OK, so this giant garbage patch,

948
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:18,560
I was thinking about it.

949
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:19,400
Like, could we go there?

950
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:24,160
Could we create our own system of government?

951
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,240
But you've got to know there's like probably seagulls on it

952
00:36:27,240 --> 00:36:28,440
just taking over.

953
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,600
The seagulls have their own government.

954
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,240
Yeah, there's probably a king seagull as we speak.

955
00:36:33,240 --> 00:36:34,160
Oh, no.

956
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,040
Like a king.

957
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,560
No, ew.

958
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:39,240
No.

959
00:36:39,240 --> 00:36:41,480
Like, it's just a big seagull with a crown made out

960
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:42,800
of french fries.

961
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:43,760
Oh, that's kind of cute.

962
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:44,760
That's actually so cute.

963
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,720
But anyway, he would probably eat it first.

964
00:36:46,720 --> 00:36:47,160
Yeah.

965
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:48,520
I realize this is really sad.

966
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:52,160
I wasn't trying to bum you out that our world is dying

967
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,000
and when will the garbage patch end?

968
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:55,800
Maybe never.

969
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,520
Maybe it will all be a garbage patch one day.

970
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:02,240
But anyway, back to the more fun thing, the Bermuda Triangle.

971
00:37:02,240 --> 00:37:08,280
So the very first time this name Bermuda Triangle had been

972
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,120
christened was actually not that long ago.

973
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:12,720
It was in 1964.

974
00:37:12,720 --> 00:37:15,640
And an article by Vincent Gatiss,

975
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:19,480
he wrote it for Argosy Magazine and it was called

976
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,120
the Deadly Bermuda Triangle.

977
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,760
So he kind of coined it.

978
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:29,560
But before the myth of this triangle became popular,

979
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:34,840
Bermuda itself, this island nation that I talked about,

980
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:38,760
if you look at it on the map, it really looks very lonely.

981
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,720
It's really in this big, vast stretch of ocean

982
00:37:41,720 --> 00:37:43,920
that looks like, wow.

983
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,960
I mean, you are really out there.

984
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:47,680
Are you?

985
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:48,840
OK.

986
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,880
Yeah, they're having a good time over there.

987
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:51,840
They're like, leave us alone.

988
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:52,800
Yeah.

989
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,240
Please look at pictures and wish you were with us

990
00:37:55,240 --> 00:37:58,240
because we are great.

991
00:37:58,240 --> 00:38:01,960
But long ago, it had a reputation

992
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,280
for being an enchanted island.

993
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:05,280
Yeah.

994
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:09,880
In fact, for many years, it was nicknamed the Devil's Island

995
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,160
or Devil's Islands because I mean,

996
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,320
there has more than just one island.

997
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,520
It has a few happening.

998
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,640
I think there's like two.

999
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:19,160
Oh, no.

1000
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,760
Bermuda is going to be so mad at me for messing this up.

1001
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:23,560
Sorry, Bermuda.

1002
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:24,720
Sorry, Bermuda.

1003
00:38:24,720 --> 00:38:28,200
If you're listening, thank you for listening and we're really sorry.

1004
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,840
So early sea travelers were, when they would come close

1005
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:33,800
to this island, they were frightened

1006
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:39,000
by the calls of the Cahow birds and the squeals of wild pigs

1007
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,240
that they could be heard on shore, which, I mean,

1008
00:38:41,240 --> 00:38:42,480
that sounds really cute.

1009
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,800
But if you didn't know what that was,

1010
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:45,960
that would actually be scary.

1011
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:46,400
Yeah.

1012
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,080
It kind of just sounds like someone's screaming.

1013
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:48,640
Screaming.

1014
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:49,040
Yeah.

1015
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,080
Which, I mean, I would not.

1016
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:52,280
They're like, get away from here.

1017
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,560
And meanwhile, it's just like these cute little pigs running

1018
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,160
around.

1019
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,040
The pigs are like, plant logs are playing.

1020
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:02,160
Get away from here.

1021
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,200
So perhaps the most fascinating things

1022
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:09,600
about these tales that were told by sailors

1023
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:14,040
were these treacherous reefs that were surrounding the island.

1024
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:17,400
And so this island had such a mystical reputation.

1025
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:24,000
It was even immortalized in Shakespeare's The Tempest, which

1026
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:29,760
that was the very first play I saw at the Shakespeare

1027
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,840
Festival, which was actually last October.

1028
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,240
I saw The Tempest and it was amazing.

1029
00:39:34,240 --> 00:39:38,440
And I went with a friend who knows so much about Shakespeare

1030
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,880
and I know so little about Shakespeare.

1031
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,600
But what I thought was funny and sad

1032
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:50,720
is that the main island dweller that they see,

1033
00:39:50,720 --> 00:40:00,360
oh my gosh, Roman, I'm so sorry, his name was Caliban.

1034
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:01,840
I could have like culligan water.

1035
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:03,400
No, his name was Caliban.

1036
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:04,960
And he was a monster.

1037
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,880
And that's what was sad is like they basically

1038
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,320
were like, this island is full of creepy people.

1039
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,480
And it's just Caliban.

1040
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,440
I am so sorry to interrupt, but I also, The Tempest

1041
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,400
was the first play I saw.

1042
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:19,000
What?

1043
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:20,400
We're samers.

1044
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:24,440
But it was put on by children in Corvallis.

1045
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:25,560
That actually sounds great.

1046
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:25,880
I know.

1047
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:30,200
I was like, I'm in second grade.

1048
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:34,000
One of my classmates is acting in this play The Tempest.

1049
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:35,560
I don't know what's happening.

1050
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,360
Which, I mean, that has adult themes in it.

1051
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:39,200
I don't know.

1052
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:45,800
Yeah, because Caliban is once accused of sexual assault.

1053
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:49,120
So just throwing that out there, second graders,

1054
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:50,720
what are you doing?

1055
00:40:50,720 --> 00:40:51,640
They're like, we don't know.

1056
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,440
We don't know, actually.

1057
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:58,480
So in The Tempest, this mysterious island

1058
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:03,520
is called the still vexed Bermuths,

1059
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,000
which it's almost like Bermuths is that where

1060
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,320
the term Bermuda came from?

1061
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,560
Or is it just like a play on the word Bermuda?

1062
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:11,280
Probably not.

1063
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:12,240
I should have looked that up.

1064
00:41:12,240 --> 00:41:14,080
I'm really sorry.

1065
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,520
I just thought that was so interesting because, I mean,

1066
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:17,920
that was so long ago.

1067
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:22,240
But of course, people are traveling the ocean.

1068
00:41:22,240 --> 00:41:26,560
And Bermuda is in between.

1069
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:30,120
If you're coming down, it's in between coming from England,

1070
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:33,600
going to the Carolinas or something like that,

1071
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,840
or that part of the world.

1072
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:37,400
And so you're going to run into it.

1073
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,200
And it might seem like this place is magical.

1074
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,800
So who knows?

1075
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:46,800
So the earliest origin of this myth

1076
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,800
can be stretched far back as Columbus.

1077
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:53,160
And I wrote Columbus, also known as the worst person ever.

1078
00:41:53,160 --> 00:42:00,280
He noted in his log book of haywire compasses

1079
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:04,600
seeing strange lights and even bursts of flame

1080
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,840
falling into the sea.

1081
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,320
Columbus, as well as other semen after him,

1082
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,600
also encountered a harrowing stretch of ocean known

1083
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:19,320
as the Sargasso Sea, which is an area of the ocean between Bermuda

1084
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,880
and the Caribbean, which is below Bermuda,

1085
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:27,600
known for its windless waters that are actually

1086
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,280
the result of ocean currents sweeping

1087
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:31,880
through the North Atlantic.

1088
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:33,920
They thought it was paranormal activity.

1089
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:37,080
It actually was just wind.

1090
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:38,360
But there was no wind.

1091
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,040
That was the part that was creepy to them.

1092
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:40,640
Oh, OK.

1093
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:41,080
I'm sorry.

1094
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,320
I'm like, my brain is interpreting what you said.

1095
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,880
You're like, yeah, that's how wind works.

1096
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:49,440
I'm like, this is how the wind is not working.

1097
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:54,720
So for example, this area is really

1098
00:42:54,720 --> 00:43:00,480
known for ships and aircraft going missing.

1099
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:04,040
But everything kind of disappears without a trace.

1100
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,080
I mean, yeah, things will show up.

1101
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:10,440
But there is usually no wreckage, no bodies.

1102
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,280
It's just they're gone.

1103
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,080
And that's what's creepy about this area

1104
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:20,360
is this windless calm water, it's like there's no reason

1105
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:21,880
to even send a distress signal.

1106
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:22,960
And then they're gone.

1107
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:23,600
That's creepy.

1108
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:25,440
Yeah.

1109
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:29,520
So for example, aircraft will report to towers.

1110
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,360
Like they're in communication, and then they'll vanish.

1111
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,680
Rescuit missions are said to have vanished,

1112
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:38,040
while even looking for the ones that have just vanished.

1113
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:38,840
Yeah.

1114
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:43,480
And past wreckage is usually not found,

1115
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,280
which is creepy.

1116
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:51,000
But many attribute it to supernatural.

1117
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:54,080
Actually, it's geophysical and environmental factors.

1118
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:57,720
And the fact that the ocean is constantly moving,

1119
00:43:57,720 --> 00:43:59,920
so it's like stuff will be one way,

1120
00:43:59,920 --> 00:44:04,560
and then it just like, whoop, goes somewhere else.

1121
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,760
Oh, man, I wish people could see your hand gestures.

1122
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:09,480
The ocean is like, whoo-hoo.

1123
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:10,840
OK.

1124
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:15,320
So this is going to be, there's a lot of different stories

1125
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:16,880
that I could talk about.

1126
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:20,720
I'm going to talk about one in particular.

1127
00:44:20,720 --> 00:44:24,000
And this is called Flight 19.

1128
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,400
And this is a designation of a group

1129
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:30,120
of five Avenger torpedo bombers that disappeared

1130
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:35,440
over the Bermuda Triangle on December 5, 1945.

1131
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:39,080
So they lost contact with the United States Navy

1132
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:43,560
during a navigation training flight from Fort Lauderdale,

1133
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:45,560
Florida.

1134
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:50,400
And they were, I believe that they were going south,

1135
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:54,000
but they did not end up going south.

1136
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:58,440
There were 14 airmen on this flight that were lost,

1137
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:03,360
as well as the 13 crew members of the flying boat that

1138
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:07,000
was launched to search for the first crew that went missing.

1139
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:11,040
So 27 people missing.

1140
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:14,240
A report by Navy investigators conclude

1141
00:45:14,240 --> 00:45:17,360
that the flight leader, Charles C. Taylor,

1142
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:21,320
mistook small islands offshore for the Florida Keys,

1143
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,160
because he was hoping he was going south.

1144
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,240
But his compass stopped working.

1145
00:45:26,240 --> 00:45:31,760
So the flight heading over, they went into open sea instead

1146
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:33,360
of land.

1147
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:34,240
Yeah.

1148
00:45:34,240 --> 00:45:37,200
And the report was later amended by the Navy

1149
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,400
to read that the real cause was unknown,

1150
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:43,240
because they wanted to avoid blaming Charles Taylor for the

1151
00:45:43,240 --> 00:45:48,960
loss of five aircraft and the 15 men in his charge.

1152
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:53,560
So the flight that went after them,

1153
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:57,480
they concluded that perhaps it exploded midair.

1154
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:58,680
But they really don't know.

1155
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,120
That was just their best guess.

1156
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:06,520
So Charles Taylor is experiencing a compass error.

1157
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:10,160
He thought he was near Bahamas or the Key West.

1158
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,200
And he wasn't even sure what direction

1159
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:16,760
he was facing in the open water, which is actually really scary.

1160
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:21,720
The control tower informed him that he is not even near Key West,

1161
00:46:21,720 --> 00:46:24,440
because the wind is not blowing that way.

1162
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:28,920
But some of the crew men with him were saying, oh,

1163
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:29,960
my compass is working.

1164
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:34,280
So he based his next route on their compass.

1165
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:35,600
But he panicked.

1166
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:37,600
So he ended up going the right direction.

1167
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:38,280
He panicked.

1168
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:39,640
They turned around.

1169
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,600
And the best guess the Navy has is

1170
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:46,240
that they ran out of fuel and just crashed into the ocean,

1171
00:46:46,240 --> 00:46:48,720
which is like so terrible.

1172
00:46:48,720 --> 00:46:53,600
I couldn't even imagine the panic of like, I'm not seeing land.

1173
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:55,280
I have 14 men with me.

1174
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:55,880
What do I do?

1175
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:56,280
Yeah.

1176
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,800
And then your plane just runs.

1177
00:46:58,800 --> 00:46:59,800
Yeah.

1178
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:01,760
And there you go.

1179
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:05,440
So the wreckage has never been found.

1180
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,000
This is 1945.

1181
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:11,840
In 1986, there was Bermuda doing it.

1182
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:12,720
That was creepy.

1183
00:47:12,720 --> 00:47:16,280
All of a sudden, Bermuda just like Google Earth just

1184
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:17,400
zoomed in on Bermuda.

1185
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,240
Bermuda was like, are you talking about me?

1186
00:47:19,240 --> 00:47:20,400
Are you talking about me?

1187
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:21,600
I'm just going to close that.

1188
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:22,100
Yeah.

1189
00:47:22,100 --> 00:47:23,640
Put that away.

1190
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:28,600
OK, so in 1986, the wreckage of an Avenger

1191
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:30,680
was found off the coast of Florida

1192
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:34,560
during a search for the Space Shuttle Challenger.

1193
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,960
And an aviation archaeologist raised this wreck

1194
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,880
from the ocean floor in 1990.

1195
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,000
So they didn't even pick it up in 1986.

1196
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:44,720
They did it four years later.

1197
00:47:44,720 --> 00:47:47,160
And it was not one of the missing planes.

1198
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:48,320
Oh, sad.

1199
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:49,760
Yeah.

1200
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:53,340
A different wrecked plane was found in 1991 by a treasure

1201
00:47:53,340 --> 00:47:53,840
hunter.

1202
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:55,880
His name was Graham Hawks.

1203
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,120
And he found it off the coast of Florida.

1204
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:01,040
But eventually, it was concluded to be a wrecked plane

1205
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:05,000
from 1943, which was two years prior, which I'm like,

1206
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,960
this place is just full of wreckage, unfortunately.

1207
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:09,520
But also, I love that there's just

1208
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:11,120
like a treasure hunter that's like,

1209
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,080
I bet there's a bunch of stuff I could find here.

1210
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:13,580
Right?

1211
00:48:13,580 --> 00:48:15,440
What a cool job.

1212
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,960
He's like, my profession is actually treasure hunter.

1213
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:27,960
In March 2012, Graham Hawks was reported saying

1214
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:32,200
that it suited him, his investors, and the Pentagon.

1215
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:37,160
Yes, that Pentagon to make this story go away

1216
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,920
because it was expensive and time consuming.

1217
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:44,240
But there was never any conclusive evidence.

1218
00:48:44,240 --> 00:48:47,920
I also wrote in here, please don't come for me Pentagon.

1219
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,040
I'm just I'm just discovering your.

1220
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:53,880
I'm just like, I'm writing when I'm reading.

1221
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:54,160
Yeah.

1222
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:58,120
Anyway, so still, I mean, the last time it was like discussed

1223
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:00,200
was in 2015, it was still reported

1224
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,840
that no wreckage had been found.

1225
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:05,600
And this is because a lot of people

1226
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:10,400
don't want the simple answer of human error or a compass

1227
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,360
failing.

1228
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:16,280
So a lot of times people will attribute something mysterious

1229
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,680
to these disappearances, especially this particular one,

1230
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:20,960
Flight 19.

1231
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:26,480
In fact, it was featured in the 1977 science fiction film

1232
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:29,600
Close Encounters of the Third Kind.

1233
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:30,280
Such a good movie.

1234
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,040
Such a good movie.

1235
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:34,280
In the film's opening, the aircraft

1236
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:37,720
are discovered in the Sonoran Desert in pristine condition

1237
00:49:37,720 --> 00:49:43,040
with full fuel tanks, which I did not remember that part.

1238
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:46,600
And then at the film's ending, the crew of Flight 19

1239
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:50,320
returns to Earth in the alien mothership.

1240
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:53,040
And they're the same age as their disappearance, which

1241
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:54,360
it's like, oh, yeah.

1242
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:57,720
So I mean, people really knew about this Flight 19.

1243
00:49:57,720 --> 00:50:00,080
Spielberg's like, yeah.

1244
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:01,760
He's really good at his research.

1245
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:03,640
I'll tell you that.

1246
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:07,760
OK, so one hypothesis for this disappearance

1247
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:13,520
is that so pilots fail to account for the agonic line, which

1248
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:18,320
is a line where there's no need to compensate for magnetic

1249
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:19,560
compass variation.

1250
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:24,880
And there are parts of the Earth where your compass is just

1251
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,040
going to go wonky.

1252
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:31,680
And so as they approach the Bermuda Triangle,

1253
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:37,000
there's a navigational error, and their compass is not working.

1254
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:40,560
So another popular theory is that the missing vessels

1255
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:45,640
were felled by a so-called rogue wave, which

1256
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:46,720
sounds a little made up.

1257
00:50:46,720 --> 00:50:49,040
But actually, it's a real thing.

1258
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:53,560
It's a massive wave that can reach up to 100 feet in the air.

1259
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:56,800
So if it's a plane that's doing a training mission,

1260
00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:00,040
they're not going to be that high up.

1261
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,680
And it's powerful enough to destroy

1262
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:06,080
any evidence of a ship or an airplane.

1263
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:07,000
Oh, that's terrifying.

1264
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:07,760
Yeah.

1265
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:10,600
And the Bermuda Triangle is located, obviously,

1266
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:12,920
in an area of the Atlantic Ocean that

1267
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:16,120
is known for hurricanes.

1268
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:20,120
It's plagued constantly with storms.

1269
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:23,080
And it's almost like it's like a hurricane alley.

1270
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:26,080
The area is just scary.

1271
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:29,320
So according to National Oceanic and Atmospheric

1272
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,720
Administration, they said, quote,

1273
00:51:32,720 --> 00:51:36,000
there is no evidence that mysterious disappearances

1274
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:40,000
occur with any greater frequency in the Bermuda Triangle

1275
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:44,480
than any other large, well-traveled area of the ocean.

1276
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:45,880
End quote.

1277
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,280
So boaters and flyers, they continue

1278
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:51,400
to venture through this triangle without event.

1279
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:53,680
I mean, people go through it all the time.

1280
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:58,720
And the ocean is terrifyingly still untouched.

1281
00:51:58,720 --> 00:52:04,680
And so much of it is actually, what's the word?

1282
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:05,960
I don't know.

1283
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:07,640
What, when you're exploring?

1284
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:08,120
Explored.

1285
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:10,640
Ha ha ha ha.

1286
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:12,680
So much of it is unexplored.

1287
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:16,280
I think there's the statistic of how much space

1288
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:21,720
from outside of Earth has been explored versus the ocean.

1289
00:52:21,720 --> 00:52:23,080
The ocean is on Earth.

1290
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:26,320
And the ocean is still like, you don't know me.

1291
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:27,320
I'm crazy.

1292
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:29,560
The ocean is beautiful, but terrifying.

1293
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:30,120
Yes.

1294
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:31,040
Yeah.

1295
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:31,400
Yeah.

1296
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:33,240
She is a cruel mistress.

1297
00:52:33,240 --> 00:52:35,240
She is.

1298
00:52:35,240 --> 00:52:38,520
So another scientific theory suggests

1299
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:43,360
large deposits of methane gas spewing up from the ocean floor.

1300
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:46,680
And this happens within the triangles borders.

1301
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,480
These huge eruptions of methane bubbles

1302
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:53,880
push water away from a ship, which causes it to sink.

1303
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,520
It's highly flammable, so it can rise into the air,

1304
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:59,040
igniting a plane's engine, causing it to explode,

1305
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,320
and then just, it's gone.

1306
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,760
And yes.

1307
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:05,640
And I don't know if you're thinking the same thing.

1308
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:07,360
I was thinking when I was reading this, but yes.

1309
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:11,680
There was an article I saw that was titled Ocean Farts.

1310
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:17,400
The Truth Behind the Mystery of the Bermuda Triangle.

1311
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:18,480
That's hilarious.

1312
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:21,080
Yeah.

1313
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:22,880
I mean, that's literally what it is.

1314
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,560
And it's a real thing.

1315
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:27,760
For example, this has been tested.

1316
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:30,720
Laboratory experiments carried out in Australia

1317
00:53:30,720 --> 00:53:34,880
have proven that bubbles can indeed sink a scale model

1318
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:38,560
of a ship by decreasing the density of the water.

1319
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,600
And then any wreckage consequently

1320
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:47,360
would rise to the surface and then just be rapidly dispersed

1321
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:48,240
by a Gulf Stream.

1322
00:53:48,240 --> 00:53:52,640
So it's just kind of like gone and then goodbye.

1323
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:54,480
Goodbye.

1324
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:57,080
And it also has been hypothesized

1325
00:53:57,080 --> 00:54:01,920
that there is methane eruptions in addition to the gas.

1326
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:07,080
So there's some time called mud volcanoes, which I'm like,

1327
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:08,480
OK.

1328
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:09,960
I know where this is going.

1329
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:11,560
The ocean has the runs.

1330
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:15,640
Yeah, it's like never trust a methane bubble.

1331
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:17,440
You don't know where it's going to.

1332
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:18,320
Yeah.

1333
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:21,480
Anyway, I'm like, the ocean is just like us.

1334
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:23,880
It also can't drink ocean water from Sonic.

1335
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:28,800
Oh, no.

1336
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:35,160
But anyway, so these mud volcanoes produce frothy water

1337
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:39,560
that reduce the buoyancy in the water.

1338
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:41,760
So it's like a ship can literally just go down

1339
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:45,400
without warning, which is actually really scary.

1340
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:46,240
It is really scary.

1341
00:54:46,240 --> 00:54:48,640
Because it just be like, yeah, yeah.

1342
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:52,000
It's kind of like the consistency or the chem,

1343
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:53,320
like who knows what?

1344
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,200
I'm not a scientist.

1345
00:54:55,200 --> 00:55:00,160
But the water is just like goodbye.

1346
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:07,400
So last but not least, so when googling the Bermuda Triangle,

1347
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:13,400
you will see that it has, you can leave a review for it.

1348
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:15,840
Like it's on Google, it's a Google review.

1349
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:19,960
It has one single star, single star.

1350
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,200
It has one single five star review.

1351
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:26,040
Someone out there left a five star review for the Bermuda

1352
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:26,680
Triangle.

1353
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:28,240
Oh my gosh.

1354
00:55:28,240 --> 00:55:33,040
All it says is dangerous location.

1355
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:36,400
Like that it's like dangerous location, five stars.

1356
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:37,800
Five stars would go again.

1357
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:40,080
Would go again.

1358
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:43,120
I'm like, whoever that guy was, I like him.

1359
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:48,440
So all in all, this legend of the Bermuda Triangle

1360
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:50,880
is pretty much a manufactured mystery.

1361
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:54,640
It's an area that has been journeyed through so many times,

1362
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:57,000
but it's just like the earth is crazy

1363
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:58,680
and you are seeing it happen.

1364
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:01,240
It's just proof of that.

1365
00:56:01,240 --> 00:56:05,720
Writers have either purposely or unknowingly

1366
00:56:05,720 --> 00:56:10,600
made use of these misconceptions creating

1367
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:16,640
fictitious lies, faulty reasoning, lots of sensationalism.

1368
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:18,760
And of course, it's just fun to imagine

1369
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:22,120
that it could be something other than methane gas.

1370
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:23,160
We all want that.

1371
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:29,160
So last but not least, I will end it with a 2013 study,

1372
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:32,080
the World Wide Fund for Nature.

1373
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:35,600
They identified the world's 10 most dangerous waters

1374
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:36,960
for shipping.

1375
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:39,880
The Bermuda Triangle wasn't even on it.

1376
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:40,880
Wow.

1377
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:43,480
So that kind of gives you an idea of the ocean.

1378
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:45,480
Do not mess with it.

1379
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:48,280
Bermuda Triangle is like, please stop slandering me.

1380
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:48,800
Please stop.

1381
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:52,040
Yeah, like I'm good.

1382
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:52,600
And that is it.

1383
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:57,040
That is the story of the mysterious Bermuda Triangle.

1384
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:58,120
That was so good.

1385
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:00,160
I learned so much that I didn't know.

1386
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:00,960
Yes, me too.

1387
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:02,560
When I was doing the research, I was like,

1388
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:05,400
ocean is crazy.

1389
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:12,520
Also, I fully understand now why all of these folk tales

1390
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:16,080
and stories came about from sailors

1391
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:20,800
when sailing was a lot more common.

1392
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:25,120
I mean, your ship just gets sucked down by the ocean.

1393
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:27,320
Well, of course, you'd be like, oh, it's a sea monster.

1394
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:27,880
Oh, yeah.

1395
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:29,000
You wouldn't think.

1396
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:33,200
Or it's the velocity of Atlantis drawing me down.

1397
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:34,560
Not ocean parts.

1398
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:35,640
Not ocean parts.

1399
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:37,800
Because it's like, yeah, back then,

1400
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:43,680
so much of the ocean was undocumented or not mapped out.

1401
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:47,360
They, I mean, stuff happens today where people will go missing

1402
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:48,880
and were like, what happened to them?

1403
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:50,400
The Malaysian flight.

1404
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:52,240
And that happened 500 years ago.

1405
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:54,960
Granted, they didn't have airplanes back then.

1406
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:55,880
But it was equivalent.

1407
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:56,520
The equivalent.

1408
00:57:56,520 --> 00:58:00,840
It's like, oh, they would be like, that was the devil.

1409
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:03,120
The devil's in the ocean.

1410
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:07,040
So it's like, yeah, there's so much out there that is,

1411
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:10,920
it actually was something that made something disappear.

1412
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:12,880
But it was not anything mythical.

1413
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:14,840
It was just people just didn't understand.

1414
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:15,880
They didn't understand.

1415
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:17,920
And people still don't.

1416
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:18,680
I still don't.

1417
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:20,080
No.

1418
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:22,360
But it is a crazy place.

1419
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:23,720
I wouldn't mind going there.

1420
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:25,120
I was telling my mom about it.

1421
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:27,280
And she's like, well, you're not going to go there, are you?

1422
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:28,720
Well, I can't guarantee it.

1423
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:29,080
I know.

1424
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:31,760
Like, well, I was like, there's nothing wrong with it.

1425
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:34,280
And she's like, but it's dangerous.

1426
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:35,600
And I'm like, you know what?

1427
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:38,360
What I've learned, the ocean is dangerous.

1428
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:39,960
Don't go near the ocean.

1429
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:41,520
The ocean will mess you up.

1430
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:41,880
Also.

1431
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:42,680
But we love it.

1432
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:47,760
I think we should just add pretty much every topic we do.

1433
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:51,000
It's like our grand podcast road trip that we're planning.

1434
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:52,160
Oh, yeah.

1435
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:54,080
Or that would be a boat trip.

1436
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:54,840
A boat trip.

1437
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:57,840
It'll be all forms of plane strings.

1438
00:58:57,840 --> 00:58:59,400
Yeah, literally.

1439
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:05,120
Like we're going to do our own murder on the Orient Express,

1440
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:07,160
sans murder.

1441
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:08,000
We hope.

1442
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:08,440
We hope.

1443
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:10,720
We'll just be like, well, I'll be puoro.

1444
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:13,280
And I would love to be puoro.

1445
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:13,760
Right?

1446
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:16,080
Oh, we'd have the cutest mustaches.

1447
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:16,600
I know.

1448
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:18,720
We'd be so amazing being Belgian.

1449
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:20,640
Mm-hmm.

1450
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:22,360
Oh, man.

1451
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:23,280
David Souchet, though.

1452
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:23,960
David Souchet.

1453
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:24,840
Not a.

1454
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:26,040
Kenneth Brown.

1455
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:28,320
If you're listening, Kenneth Brown, we still love you.

1456
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:30,080
But come on.

1457
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:33,880
But also, we'll never forget what you did to Emma Thompson.

1458
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:34,800
Oh, yeah.

1459
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:35,880
Kenneth Brown, if you're listening.

1460
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:36,880
I'll never forgive.

1461
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:37,560
Yeah.

1462
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:41,400
Kenneth Brown, if you're listening, we're really sorry about it.

1463
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:44,080
But we'll never forgive you.

1464
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:45,880
She's like, I don't even care anymore.

1465
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:47,120
Yeah.

1466
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:50,000
But she's, we got to protect Emma Thompson.

1467
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:50,960
So yeah, she's the best.

1468
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:53,160
She's the best.

1469
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:56,400
And yeah, there we are.

1470
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:56,840
We did it.

1471
00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:58,000
This is our third episode.

1472
00:59:58,000 --> 00:59:59,840
And I think we're getting better at it.

1473
00:59:59,840 --> 01:00:00,640
I think so too.

1474
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:03,280
I think I said, um, less.

1475
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:03,720
Oh, yeah.

1476
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:05,280
That was the other thing.

1477
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:07,800
I was thinking about my word whiskers.

1478
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:12,280
And I hope I didn't say a bajillion different so's every word.

1479
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:13,240
So.

1480
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:16,800
So for anyone, I just did it.

1481
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:21,000
For anyone who was thinking the first episode, wow,

1482
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:23,080
they don't have any word whiskers.

1483
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:24,720
That's not true.

1484
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:26,680
My husband is just really good at editing.

1485
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:27,360
Yeah.

1486
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:28,760
He makes us so smart.

1487
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:29,560
Yeah.

1488
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:34,760
The first time I heard it, I was like, Roman is a genius.

1489
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:35,080
He is.

1490
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:39,400
I think he's the greatest producer known to at least this

1491
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:39,960
household.

1492
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:40,440
Yeah.

1493
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:44,880
It's true.

1494
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:48,080
Because I was like, this actually sounds great.

1495
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:48,600
It does.

1496
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:49,120
Yeah.

1497
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:51,760
I mean, while he's like, I've been staring at this computer

1498
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:54,240
for 37 hours.

1499
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:56,800
He's like, if you say, um, one more time.

1500
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:57,400
Oh, right.

1501
01:00:57,400 --> 01:00:59,400
Oh, yeah.

1502
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:01,520
So, oh gosh, there it is again.

1503
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:01,960
Yeah.

1504
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:03,960
Anyway, word whiskers, they're hard to get away from.

1505
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:05,200
They really are.

1506
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:07,360
We'll work on it for you guys, though,

1507
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:09,360
and for my husband's sanity.

1508
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:12,080
Yes.

1509
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:15,000
Although I'm going to try my hand at editing.

1510
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:17,760
He's going to teach me how to edit.

1511
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:18,400
That would be great.

1512
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:19,360
I should also learn.

1513
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:21,800
I should contribute to this venture.

1514
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:22,680
You are contributing.

1515
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:23,760
I'm just driving.

1516
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:24,480
That's what I do.

1517
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:26,800
I drive to your house.

1518
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:30,920
Hey, we are both doing the research.

1519
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:33,560
You made a good social media post.

1520
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:36,440
We had a funny meme.

1521
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:37,840
I will be here for the memes.

1522
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:39,640
I'll meme it up any time you want.

1523
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:44,600
I know what I'm good for.

1524
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:49,040
Do we have anything else before we sign off?

1525
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:56,640
Don't, if you can help it, if you can help it.

1526
01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:58,280
Don't climb into water towers.

1527
01:01:58,280 --> 01:01:59,840
That is just a PSA.

1528
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:00,640
Or drink California water.

1529
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:05,000
Drink California water.

1530
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:08,240
Don't go anywhere with Christopher Columbus.

1531
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:10,520
And if anyone tries the elevator game,

1532
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:13,240
let us know if you went to a different dimension.

1533
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:15,560
And if you are you stuck in that dimension,

1534
01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:17,840
you can't tell us, we're really sorry.

1535
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:19,680
Yeah.

1536
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:21,160
And if the Red Cross just ends up

1537
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:26,520
being the flag to Switzerland, you are in a great place.

1538
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:27,880
It just takes you to Switzerland.

1539
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:29,520
Oh my gosh.

1540
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:30,880
I'm like, sign me up.

1541
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:33,560
Sounds nice.

1542
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:36,160
Yeah, I don't think I have anything else.

1543
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:41,760
So until next time, don't go gentle into that good night.

1544
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:43,080
Oh, I don't know where that came from.

1545
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:44,840
I like that.

1546
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:52,120
And don't stay away from the devil's triangle.

1547
01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:53,040
And good night.

1548
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:55,040
Stay away from the devil.

1549
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:57,240
And the devil.

1550
01:02:57,240 --> 01:02:58,440
He's got bad news.

1551
01:02:58,440 --> 01:02:59,600
Good night.