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Linda yeah, that's Linda. Okay

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My Bob my Bob Belcher. Oh my god. Oh my god

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Hi everyone, I'm Drew and I'm Olivia and we are oddly curious and we're back

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We're back, baby. I

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Know at least one of you probably thought they're never coming back and maybe I was me

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But I was like no it's happening. I I know I was like drew. I'm so sorry that I keep canceling on you

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But I knew I knew we get back to them

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like first I

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Was moving and then your poor life became upended. I had co vid and then yeah things just kept happening

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And then I actually got sick. Yeah, but it wasn't co vid. Yeah

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It was just like life and when you work full-time and this is like a hobby. You know, you wish it could be your job

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Mm-hmm. You just don't have time all the time. No, you don't but now

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We're back and hopefully better than ever. Yeah

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2024 is it's our year

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To podcast regularly. I don't know. Yes. I'm also going on a two-week trip tomorrow. I know yeah, but we're gonna

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And I wish Olivia was coming with me. I'll preface. I'm like she'll just be in my pocket. Oh, thank you

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You could like have a little like instead of a flat Stanley like a little flat Olivia that you carry

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Okay, I need a picture of you okay and be like oddly curious trip. Oh

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Until our real one. Yes, that will happen. We're it could be like a trip or something

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Yes, and it could be like podcast themed but also we could just do it for fun. Mm-hmm. We don't have to put the pressure on us

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But you know something happens or like oh, that's interesting. Yeah, what?

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Let's drive there. I know we were just talking about I think a couple weeks ago. We both want to do like kind of a

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Southern Gothic like abandoned towns trip. Yes

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Speaking of which I do have a shout out for Southern Gothic abandoned. Okay. I think I said this person to you before

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Back to Bob Bob Belcher. Oh my gosh

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He's a photographer. I found him on tiktok and then I found him on Instagram and

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Of course, I can't remember what his name is because I like why put that to memory when you can just be like there

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He is but then I can't find it. I will have to find it for after the episode

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but it's kind of the vibe I was thinking of what we want to do. Okay, because

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It's just so cool, but at the same time I'm like I swear

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Some of these places look like they're in the Pacific Northwest

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which I think yeah followers and listeners have figured out that's where we live and

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I think they are I think some people think it's other gothic, but it's actually eastern Washington and eastern Oregon

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This is actually like on the coast. Yeah

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But yeah turns out Southern Gothic is in your heart. It is find it where you want it Southern Gothic is like

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The friends we made along the way

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There's like a lot of abandoned church

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Something bad happened here, but and maybe it was just the plumbing

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Maybe we just needed to do a remodel. It could have just been that on the alley

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They just moved into a different building. Yeah, that hopefully nobody died or anything, but like searching for this guy

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I sent it to you one time. I

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Believe you I just don't remember his name either. The problem is I've sent you so many things on Instagram that it's like wading through this

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this sea of how many

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Margot Robbie and

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Want to do ray pictures right? Yeah, I'm like what have I sent you everything and I know I feel like there's just a few people that

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I'll send things to every day and you are one of those people. Yeah same with you

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Yeah, so like and it can run the gamut of today was in Metallica meme, which was really fun

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Wait, did I find it?

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I did find it. Yes. Go Park is his name. So it's yes. I

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P a R K. Anyway, it's so beautiful. So beautiful shout out to this guy for

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Well, that's scary. Oh, I don't want to go there. I don't know there, but everywhere else. It's like he he goes to places at night

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He must feel safe

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That's easier to do stuff like that as a guy. Yeah, but it's just kind of like the peacefulness of at night

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And you hear like crickets and frogs and it's just a little bit creepy, but it's safe at the same time

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Yeah, hopefully he's like not going by himself though. Yeah, I'm like, I don't care who you are if you're going by yourself in the woods

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That's you're asking for trouble

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And some people on tiktok have even asked him are you by yourself? And he's like, yeah, I feel safe

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narrative of yeah, or does he really have no one with him also the fact that you're saying that you're going by yourself like

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Then you're they might be plotting something bad. Yeah

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That's gonna be that took a lot. I was like, wow, this took a dark turn. Well, uh, do you have like any recommendations?

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But like podcasts or movies or anything that you've been listening to or watching. Yes. No, I can't remember them

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The art of keeping house while drowning by Casey Davis. Whoa, and sounds good

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Accommodation this exactly and uh, yeah, it's just been really helpful. It's made it

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If something's not pretty just put a basket there. I got that from her. Oh, you did I did

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Wants and needs, but yeah, I highly recommend I think everyone should read that book

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Mental illness, you know, that sounds great. Yeah, so it's how to keep house while drowning like Casey like the letters KC Davis

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We're still drowning because we also yeah, like

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Your circumstances changed. I have to take care of everything everything but myself

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It's just like yeah, just because you're by yourself doesn't mean you don't have a lot of responsibilities. Yeah, and like I

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You have ADHD you you guys share in common

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The struggles are you recognize them? Yeah, and like I'm also learning a lot more about ADHD because this creator

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She also has ADHD. Maybe you can teach me something. I feel like I'm constantly being like, oh, that's

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What that is. I'm like just listen to struggle here. I'm gonna do it. He sounds a better than I ever could. Yeah

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But it's voices for justice. Have you heard of this one? That does sound familiar

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It is the girl I'm gonna

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Sarah tourney. Yes, yeah, okay, and she's

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trying to get justice for her sister and her

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Elisabeth attorney, Elizabeth for and her terrible dad. Yeah, but then she has turned it into this

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platform of finding justice for other people and

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I know that we've listened to a lot of true crime stuff. Yeah stuff doesn't really I mean it will

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The victim which is what she's doing, but there was this one I listened to and she was like doing a wrap-up of like the end of the year

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These things were they found the killer here or they've they got justice here and I was driving

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But I started balling and they hasn't I've never had that kind of reaction before because usually I can

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Compartmentalize it and it's like I want it not that I want to hear grizzly details and she didn't give grizzly details

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It just hurt that much. Yeah, like emotionally and I was like this girl is amazing and

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She has nearly like perfect rating on Apple

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Podcasts, which is like we all know how people are stinkers when it comes to totally

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Yeah, it's like the fact that she everyone is like no, this is good. Anyway voices for justice

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It's a hard listen, but it's kind of important just because it's like the stuff you've never heard about it's marginalized

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People marginalized women, you know people of color

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Like I actually had to turn it off and listen to silence for a while. I've never had to do that before

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But I do I follow Sarah on tiktok and like she has a lot of updates about Alyssa's case and then I saw

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When you're showing me that that she also had as a guest Laura from the fall line

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Yes, right here and I I love Laura as well. She's so cool. That's even her picture. She looks like I wouldn't mess with her

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Yeah, that's another podcast like that is very. Yeah focused and like I mean it's literally the fall line

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It's like the people who are left behind but have their marginalized. Yeah, so also I should do a shout out to Chelsea

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Like one of my besties who Chelsea?

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You're like Chelsea. I know Chelsea, you know Chelsea, but she's the one that told me to listen to it. Good job, Chelsea

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Yeah, because she's always on the hunt for new things. Yeah, she's one of us

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What a bust but the other thing so we're going from dark and heavy to happy is our mutual friends started their own podcast

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Yes, and it's called cozy. Oh

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Hold on. I was gonna say the name wrong. Oh, I just

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cozy I was gonna say cozy coffee fall date and I was like, why does that sound wrong?

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Like cozy coffee fall date because I think you said the fall line

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On your head. Yeah, cozy coffee date, which is much nicer. Yeah. Yeah, and it's just happy with our friends Jessica and telly

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Yeah, so give it a listen. It's like the things you love about fall

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Just in general being cozy and they are both very good with their research

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Yeah, yeah research and being funny and adorable and like instant dopamine. Yes, so cozy fall coffee date and

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if you have any kind of

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We imposed on story and also the other day I was telling somebody at work about my podcast and I said curiously odd

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And I was like carry like it. I was like curiously odd

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I was like, that's not right. She's like, wow, that sounds so interesting

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And I was like, oh, I'm sorry. It's oddly curious and she was like, oh, I was like wait

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No, the first one isn't the right one. You're like, did I just mess up? Yeah, they did. Yeah

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I don't think curiously odd sounds it sounds clunky. No, if she thinks that's better than she's wrong. Yeah, and

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She's wrong. So yeah, I mean if you're listening we love you. Yeah. Thank you

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I won't name drop just in case she's like hey anyway

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And also thanks to all the people who are listening that

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Stuck out our hiatus. Yes. I'm like, I know a few of our loyal

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Followers that will be listening but all two of you

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Shout out to you guys. We love you and you

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My mom told me sometimes the podcast makes her anxious

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Which I'm like, mom, I love you. I mean me too. I know

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I'm like, so I told her that this episode was gonna be a little bit lighter and

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I don't know he lied. I was doing my research and I wanted to apologize to my mom just to have a time

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Mom, I love you. Don't listen to this episode

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But or listen with discretion listen to my story not Drew. Yeah, don't listen to the first one

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And it's not like I chose it to find something terrible. It's I think it's important to talk about yeah, but if like if you're sensitive

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Just oh and I guess I mean I will do a trigger warning before my story

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But just so you know, I'm not doing any grizzly details. No, I never will yeah, we never do grizzly

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Unless it's a bear

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Someday we're gonna have to do grizzly man

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Yeah, or and maybe cocaine bear. I don't know. I just wanted you grizzly man so I can do a verner Herzog impression

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Yeah, oh man grizzly man is grizzly though. It's really

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That is one where it's like we won't do details because

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This is actually one of the things about living in the north

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Western west part of North America where you have to be careful because I have a friend in Australia where it's like

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Australia is all about snakes and spiders and everyone's afraid of them and she's like but are you afraid of bears and I was like

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Well, we don't see them that often and then I thought about it if it came down to being eaten by a bear or seeing a spider

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That just runs across my bed. That's the size of a Yorkie terrier. Mm-hmm. I'm like, of course I'm gonna pick the spider

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Yeah, I will choose poison over being torn to pieces. Yeah, I bear and the big spiders in Australia aren't even the poisonous ones

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So it's like they're like they're hanging out with you also. I mean you're never gonna catch me

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Far out enough in nature to be eaten by a bear though. No, no that will never happen. Yeah

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Where it's like because I mean Australia is tough and they have to live with their big spiders every day. Yeah, but I

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Mean I saw a tick-tock the other day where a woman was sitting at her picnic table

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And she just had to sit and watch as the black bear ate her food because she was afraid

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And did you see that holding her son and they barely was in her face like this is really good

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Yeah, she she did great though. She like was so calm. Mm-hmm. So you don't have to do that with spiders

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No, you know, I mean sometimes I still stay still. Yeah

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Sometimes I'm brave enough to kill them and then sometimes they're too high up and I have to ask my tall husband to kill them

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I so I try to save them. I'm one of those people if

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They are not in the bathroom. I can't deal with them being in the bathroom

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You get flushed down the toilet. Yeah, I know one time

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Did it climb back up one time? I woke my husband up in the middle of the night

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Because it was in the bathroom and it was so

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Because like he came out and he was like, oh wow like I thought you were exaggerating

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But that is really big and then like but he has his own zip code exactly and in the same week

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I saw the same type of spider at work and I was like, why are you doing this to me?

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Like it was big enough that I could see his eyes. Oh, okay

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Which then I felt bad killing him cuz I was like looking at his eyes and I'm like, I'm sorry

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This is a four-year-old good. I know we are just talking about

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Bob's burgers what makes me think of the episode where Louise tries to keep the spider in her room. Yeah, and then it goes missing

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It's like all your best friends

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There's a part of me that is like Louise. Oh totally. Yeah, I would probably

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Become emotionally attached to a spider and then feel guilty

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I even saw one today at work and I just said hello to it and I noticed it

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Look at me, which was a little bit scary, but I was like, oh, what if he was being friendly our spiders friendly

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I don't know. I think they are I know every and like the few times

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Who am I kidding? It's more than a few times the times I've killed a spider

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It's always like a couple moments of an ethical dilemma. Yeah

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Because you know, they do so good in the world. I'm like, I'm really sorry, but you're in my home

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You don't want me in your home. He's like, yeah, I do because you bring in they're like, I want to eat you. Yeah

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If I'm oh my gosh, if it was big enough to be inside a spider's home, then I'd be like kill it like kill it all

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Hobbit yeah

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She lobe I remember reading that at school when you're reading about the giant spider in school and you're like, oh

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My gosh, like I realize this is fake. I don't think you know the spider

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Because she's scary and you're

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Give she loves the respect it's just like at the top of your brain. I'll never forget

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I'll never forget she lobe justice for she lobe actually

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She's kind of a jerk. She's kind of a jerk, but at the same time when you think about spiders

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They're just trying to survive. She's like, I don't know what you are. I just need to feed my kids. Yes

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Yeah, he's just trying to take care of herself exactly

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She's the she's a single mother. She's a single mother. She ate her husband

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She can't even get child support. Oh

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Well, we want to get into our time we should okay

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okay, so our our theme for this episode is

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It was just gonna be animal heroes or like heroic animals, but we both ended up doing dogs

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We were gonna actually do this. We did the same dog. I know and then I was like, oh, I'm glad I said something

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Which is like I was like, oh no

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I have this I have this ready to go because this is something close to my heart

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But as I was doing the research, I was like, this is devastating

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But important because it's historical and I think everyone should just know this happened. Yeah

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Wait, here we go. And did I cry doing research about this? Yes. Get your get your tissues out. Yeah

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Get your glass of wine. Mm-hmm everyone. We have ours. We have ours

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Okay, so today I am going to tell you Olivia and everyone else who is listening about

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animals in space

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Yeah, let's go. Let's go. My sources are an Atlas obscura

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article by Eric Grundhouser a

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NASA article by Tara Gray and

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a space calm article by Megan Bartels and Mike Wall and then of course Wikipedia

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Which sometimes I will look at the sources on Wikipedia and it's the same sources of what I've looked up

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But they do it in such a concise way. It's like almost like bullet points

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Whereas like some articles are so well written, but they're very flowy that you're like

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I'm trying to find a specific word and yeah Wikipedia will just have it. So anyway

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As we have known humans to be they are fascinated by all the things they can't do

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Which includes flying I think I say they're terrible terrible as we know humans to be they're terrible

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Yes, and they really want to fly and it's kind of like have you ever thought about why?

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If you can't talk, why are you wanting to do this? Yeah, why are we trying so bad?

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Right, which I'm like, I'm happy for it because then I'm going to go on a 14-hour flight on Sunday

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Mm-hmm. So I'm like, I'm thankful for that. But at the same time, it's like, why don't we think we just stay in a boat?

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I know anyway

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That's just my my personal gripe

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But because humans have to create things to help them fly

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They need test subjects first because they're not

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self-sacrificing because

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cowards yeah, and sorry scientists, right and so it just turns out for years humans have been flinging unsuspecting

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animals into the sky

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and one of the first instances

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The Mont Gulfier brothers in France. They were aviation pioneers and avid balloonists

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They wanted to test out a hotter balloon as a force a force a source of travel from one place to the other

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Which sounds whimsical and beautiful, but they're like well we could die

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Where should we practice this with animals? Oh the gardens of Versailles

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so with Marie Antoinette

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watching

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Marie our girl our girl Marie friend of the podcast Marie Antoinette

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She was among the guests and I was like of course she was there. That's her house like snow. Yeah, I guess it would be like they didn't invite her

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They've been really awkward. Yeah

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So they watched this happen the brothers in order to test out this form of travel

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They brought a rooster a duck and a sheep as tusks subjects

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Interesting. Yeah, the only name I could find for these animals was for the sheep. His name was

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Mont Ossiel which means climb to the sky in French. That's such a whimsical name for sure. I know

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Oh good, right and he was chosen because of his similarities to human physiology

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Well, okay, turns out we're all this little sheep

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Yeah, the duck was chosen because it already has the ability to fly at a high altitude and would act as a control and

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The rooster was a bird that never gets very high off the ground and would act as a comparative case for the duck

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And then it's like actually the rooster is just the person who's afraid of flying. It's like you meet someone on every flight

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It's like, why are we doing this? I gotta say this whole setup sounds like a riddle. It really does

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I'm like so sheep a duck and a rooster walk into a hot air balloon

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So the balloon took off

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That morning with its precious cargo and sailed for about eight minutes

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The balloon covered two miles or three point two kilometers for those who are smart enough to have the metric system

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And they obtained an altitude of about 1500 feet

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For those first eight minutes

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It was great until it crashed landed in a small forest

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The animals were flying. Oh, thank God. Yeah. I'm like not the bull sheep

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I know they're so innocent. You're actually gonna love this. So they were

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They were unharmed except the rooster who had been kicked by the sheep

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He was fine

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Like get out of here

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these brothers

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like invented this flying come trash come

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Contraption, of course, they started using humans as their experiment and then the sheep and the duck and the rooster they became minor celebrities

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So cute they all were

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So cute they all went on to live great lives

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Because they need aviation history the sheep in fact was adopted by Marie Antoinette. I knew my girl was gonna yeah

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up to yeah, and

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It said he lived the rest of his life eating candy and marshmallows in her sheepfold

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So she's not great at knowing she's not by it, but she was just she loved him so much

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She's like, you know what would be cute if this she paid a marshmallow

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Looks like a version. Yeah, I bet that's what I was Marie. I get you I get you

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So of course as time goes on

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more forms of air travel is

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developed like with

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blimps I forget the actual like

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Like that. What's that one word a zeppelin a zeppelin? Yeah, I'm like the one that's not a blimp

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Doesn't sound like a sandwich

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Zeppelin's and then of course

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airplanes and it's like of course there are instances of animals going on

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Those that's just not as like memorable just because it's like people were on it

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Of course, they have their little dog with them. Yeah, eventually so

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If you are wealthy enough at the time to travel you might have a little dog with you

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That's just yeah, I mean people are doing that today

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with their balloon test and we are in the

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1940s and it's now the space race

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We're they're like I have I'm sick of the sky. I need outer space humans instead the final front the final frontier

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So before humans could actually go into space one of the prevailing theories about spaceflight was that humans might not be able to survive

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Long periods of weightlessness

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So for several years there was this debate among scientists that the effect of prolonged weight

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Weightlessness would affect humans negatively and then American and Russian scientists were like let's utilize animals which

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come on

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They just wanted to make sure that a living organism could survive space and come back alive and unharmed

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Well, and then there's like a little asterisk there or like the voice from

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Like from a rest of development. Yeah, he's like that didn't happen. They did not they did not

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So when it came to living organisms the US started small in 1947 they launched a

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German V2 rocket that had been captured during World War two and had been

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Been refigured to become like a rocket that goes into space and they put fruit flies on board. Oh, yeah

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And these v2s were of such high tech

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They were long-range weapons that could fly at 3500 miles per hour and hit targets standing as far as 200 miles away

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scientists in addition to being

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Learning about weightlessness wondered, you know, if cosmic radiation would be in a bad exposure to humans

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so turns out fruit flies have a

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similar

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genome to humans which it's like funny that you think that yeah

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75% of all disease causing genes present in humans have the same analogs in a fruit flies genetic code

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So they're like if this is going to affect a fruit fly, it'll definitely affect a human. Okay. Yeah in addition to the fruit flies

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They also had corn, rye and other plants on board to just kind of see if anything was affected

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So turns out fruit flies are really popular in the biological

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Researching field because of this and when they came back they survived

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There were no effects of cosmic radiation and I wrote they were rewarded a banana

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They're like how do we pay these fruit flies?

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They were having the best time of their lives

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So the first vertebrae sent into space were a series of ill-fated monkeys and mice

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launched between yeah

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1948 and 1951 by American scientists

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for instance one on June 14th, 1949 a

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Rhesus monkey named Albert the second blasted at an altitude of 83 miles an

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hour

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He survived the flight but died on impact. So it's like they're learning

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They're like they don't want these animals to die. Yeah the bottom line

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But they're like well it could kill someone and it's kind of like maybe a space isn't for us. I love it

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It's beautiful. Maybe we just weren't meant to be there. Yeah, maybe figure this out when you have better technology anyway

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That's my sidebar

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A year later the US launched a mouse and photographed its behavior in a waitlist state

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But it was not recovered alive. Maybe I know

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Now we're going to the Soviet Union and this just gets more intense. Yeah

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First they launched a pair of dogs

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Saigan and desic

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62 miles into the air which was not quite space level. I think

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66 miles into the air is considered space

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But they were recovered safely. This is in 1951

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throughout the rest of 1951 the Soviet Union

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Launched so many dogs. It was just like they're like, hey, it works. Let's keep trying

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I'm not going into details because there were so many that were hit and miss of whether they survived or not

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And then thankfully the scientists working with the dogs were always devastated when they lost one

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So it's it was kind of nice to read that they're not heartless monsters. It's like they're they're in a communist

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Government they literally have someone

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Making them do stuff against their will like they're like my family's gonna get killed if I don't do this, right?

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Yeah, so they just were like, okay, and then yeah, I will blame the site. I don't either. Yeah, so

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The only funny thing I found when doing research about this is that there was a stray dog

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They were going to use named Bobic

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What a cute name. No, and she ran away. She's like no, no, right

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So they found another stray to replace her and they named her Zib which was translated into

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substitute for missing dog named Bobic

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And then Zib run ran away. So it's like that's the way. Yeah

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She's like not today. So the US and the USSR were keeping close tabs on each other as far as advancing space travel

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And after rushes first successful dog trip

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Which was those first two dogs the US launched and retrieved an anesthesized monkey named Yorick

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along with 11 mice and

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I'd forget which article I should have written it down, but one of them said a last poor Yorick

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He died and this is what this really heartbreaking. He survived the trip

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But he died in his capsule overheating in the New Mexico Sun being waited for rescue

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Baby, it's like you guys didn't even think about that like I seriously

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I'm like the worst conducts heat. Yeah, and they said metal. I'm like, you think scientists would figure that out?

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Yeah, yeah, I don't know

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Mace

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22nd 1952

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two Philippine monkeys

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Patricia and Mike

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along with

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Two white mice Mildred and Albert sounds like they're on a double date. Are they living in like coca-cobana or something?

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right

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I wish right

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These animals were the first to experience a period of weightlessness

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Well, also not dying they returned safely and they lived comfortably after their

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Venture into space which is like I guess that's the one nice thing about the animals that came back alive is they're like

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Thank you for your duty

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Now go live a nice life. I wonder if the mice are like, oh my god, do you remember that time we were floating?

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Oh god, what happened?

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And it's sad because it's like mice already don't live a long life

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Like they're just like a portion of their life was in space and then monkeys. They're like

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Hey, man, I can I can forget about this because I have so many

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Snacks to eat for 20 years. Okay, so because of this

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Successful mission by the United States the USSR

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Stepped up their game, which it's like, okay, come on

434
00:34:25,500 --> 00:34:28,460
Russia's like hold my vodka. Yeah. Yeah, they were

435
00:34:29,860 --> 00:34:33,700
So we're getting to the star of the show is Leica like

436
00:34:34,340 --> 00:34:37,540
The first earthling to be launched and orbit the earth

437
00:34:37,540 --> 00:34:40,900
Also known as the goodest girl. So I wrote

438
00:34:42,020 --> 00:34:48,300
So behind all of this at the helm is Nikita Khrushchev the Soviet leader

439
00:34:48,820 --> 00:34:55,500
He's so desperate for a spacecraft to be launched on November 7th 1957

440
00:34:56,020 --> 00:35:00,140
Because it's the 40th anniversary of the October Revolution

441
00:35:00,940 --> 00:35:05,940
When they overthrew the Tsarist autocracy. So it's like the Soviet Union was the first

442
00:35:05,940 --> 00:35:09,980
anniversary of when the Bolsheviks killed children in cold blood

443
00:35:09,980 --> 00:35:15,340
They're like, let's put something into space. It's like and kill that and killed it. But it's like I wrote

444
00:35:15,940 --> 00:35:20,260
Why did he want to do this? Just Soviet leader things I guess like

445
00:35:20,700 --> 00:35:23,100
Nikita you're going in my burn book. I know

446
00:35:23,860 --> 00:35:30,020
I don't really understand. He's like to show that we're really successful. Let's go into space. Yeah, like well, I don't know

447
00:35:30,020 --> 00:35:32,020
I don't think that's gonna work out well

448
00:35:32,020 --> 00:35:35,100
So he gave scientists a

449
00:35:35,940 --> 00:35:40,860
Deadline that was like right around the corner. Of course, of course because it's like that always goes well

450
00:35:40,860 --> 00:35:45,500
Uh-huh. They were wanting to do it in 1958 and he's like, no, you have to do it November

451
00:35:46,260 --> 00:35:48,740
1957 so of course of course. Yeah

452
00:35:49,540 --> 00:35:55,740
Because he wanted the world to see his engineers deliver a quote space

453
00:35:56,660 --> 00:35:58,180
spectacular

454
00:35:58,180 --> 00:36:00,180
a mission that would repeat

455
00:36:00,180 --> 00:36:04,780
the triumph of Sputnik one which Sputnik one was the first satellite in Earth's orbit

456
00:36:05,420 --> 00:36:11,780
Which only happened in October of 1957. So this happened a month later. He's like you need to put someone in space

457
00:36:12,500 --> 00:36:15,260
Oh my gosh. No, I'm like the answer is no

458
00:36:16,500 --> 00:36:21,340
So of course if they were gonna do it, they had to use a dog because that's what they had been using

459
00:36:22,260 --> 00:36:27,500
Soviet rocket engineers had long intended a canine orbit of course for

460
00:36:27,500 --> 00:36:32,980
1958 but now they had to move forward fast to satisfy Khrushchev's demands

461
00:36:33,460 --> 00:36:36,460
So they did everything they could to make their November launch

462
00:36:37,580 --> 00:36:39,580
So sweet little Leica

463
00:36:39,580 --> 00:36:44,260
She was found as a stray wandering the streets of Moscow a few weeks before the launch

464
00:36:45,020 --> 00:36:52,500
Soviet scientists chose to use Moscow strays since they assumed that such animals had already learned to endure conditions of extreme cold and hunger

465
00:36:52,500 --> 00:37:00,420
They're like let's make it worse. Yeah, I'm sure let's lure them into a false sense of security and then make them do things

466
00:37:00,420 --> 00:37:02,420
I'm gonna do

467
00:37:02,420 --> 00:37:04,420
So she was this

468
00:37:04,460 --> 00:37:10,340
It was either 11 or 13 pound little female dog a mixture of possibly husky

469
00:37:10,740 --> 00:37:16,740
Or another Nordic breed and then possibly Samoid and then some kind of terrier, which is so cute

470
00:37:16,740 --> 00:37:18,260
She was so cute

471
00:37:18,260 --> 00:37:23,580
So there are so many pictures of her and we'll have to share them on our Instagram. So everyone can cry. Yeah

472
00:37:24,140 --> 00:37:27,140
and she was approximately three years old and

473
00:37:28,140 --> 00:37:31,580
Soviet personnel gave her several little nicknames including

474
00:37:32,300 --> 00:37:36,260
Little Russian names for a little curly little bug and little lemon

475
00:37:37,860 --> 00:37:44,660
So cute and Leica is a translation for Barker because she barked during her radio interview

476
00:37:44,660 --> 00:37:50,180
She was probably like she's like get me out of here. No, like isn't she so cute?

477
00:37:50,180 --> 00:37:56,140
I like that. They're like, it's not crazy. She barks during her interview. Like, yeah, well, she's she's answering questions

478
00:37:56,140 --> 00:38:00,660
She's telling you I don't want to do this two other dogs were also in the running to be in Sputnik 2

479
00:38:01,180 --> 00:38:04,620
Just in case Leica did not work out and one of them Albina

480
00:38:04,620 --> 00:38:09,500
They didn't want to use because she had just had puppies like they were literally taking

481
00:38:10,300 --> 00:38:12,300
female dogs in the house

482
00:38:12,300 --> 00:38:21,260
Literally taking female dogs that could be mothers and being like time to go into space. Well, I mean I guess I'm glad they don't separate her for her puppy

483
00:38:21,260 --> 00:38:26,060
Yeah, that was nice. Okay, so there were two parts that made me a little sad

484
00:38:27,140 --> 00:38:33,020
This one is before the launch of the mission scientists took Leica home to play with their children

485
00:38:35,260 --> 00:38:40,580
Dr. Vladimir Yadovsky said quote Leica was quiet and charming

486
00:38:40,580 --> 00:38:44,580
I wanted to do something nice for her. She didn't have much longer to live

487
00:38:45,020 --> 00:38:49,700
They're like, let's get our children attached to the dog. Yeah, that's great

488
00:38:50,420 --> 00:38:54,880
So Leica was the test dog on a one-way mission into space

489
00:38:55,500 --> 00:38:57,500
Albina was

490
00:38:57,540 --> 00:39:03,380
The backup dog she had actually already flown twice in high altitudes and she became a mother

491
00:39:03,380 --> 00:39:05,380
I'm like go Queen Wow

492
00:39:05,380 --> 00:39:12,200
And then the third dog Mooshka was the control dog and she was to stay on the ground and be used to test

493
00:39:13,460 --> 00:39:16,860
Instrumentation and life support, which whatever that means. I don't know. Yeah

494
00:39:17,700 --> 00:39:23,900
According to a NASA document Leica was placed in the capsule of the satellite on the 31st of October

495
00:39:24,340 --> 00:39:26,940
1957 three days before the start of the mission

496
00:39:26,940 --> 00:39:32,620
So she had to be in her capsule for three days without being able to move and at that time

497
00:39:32,620 --> 00:39:36,420
It was really cold in Russia. So they had to

498
00:39:37,260 --> 00:39:40,980
Keep her area warmed with like warm water

499
00:39:40,980 --> 00:39:44,940
So at least she was comfortable and she had a lot of food like she was well groomed

500
00:39:45,340 --> 00:39:51,500
Even and they like like would paint iodine on her so they could place sensors, but they made sure she was at least comfortable

501
00:39:52,420 --> 00:40:00,140
One of the technicians preparing the capsule before the final liftoff said quote after placing Leica in the container and before closing the hatch

502
00:40:00,140 --> 00:40:05,400
We kissed her nose and we wished her bon voyage knowing she would not survive the flight

503
00:40:05,940 --> 00:40:10,760
Yeah, it makes me sad because it seems like the scientists were really sad, but yeah

504
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:19,740
I don't know how they could sleep at night. They I would just be saw you just be like this is why they invented vodka in this country

505
00:40:19,740 --> 00:40:27,700
I mean also, I would I would steal her. Yeah, just go on the run. Yeah, and be like me and Leica against the world

506
00:40:27,700 --> 00:40:32,240
Oh my gosh, he's so cute. Oh, okay

507
00:40:32,900 --> 00:40:34,900
So she went up

508
00:40:35,460 --> 00:40:42,380
With no provisions made to return and this sparked a debate over in the West over the ethics of

509
00:40:42,620 --> 00:40:49,060
Sacrificing animals to advance science because at least the United States they always gave I mean even if they it didn't work out

510
00:40:49,060 --> 00:40:52,920
They always had the plan that it would come back even for their fruit flies

511
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:58,120
We're like if there's one thing the US is gonna do it's gonna be obsessed with our animals

512
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:03,640
Yes, I mean it's like that is that is like a fine line that the US won't cross. Yeah

513
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:06,580
But

514
00:41:06,580 --> 00:41:08,580
the Soviet

515
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,960
Thinking is not the same which is very sad

516
00:41:13,720 --> 00:41:20,360
So of course so she did not return and this at least gave them more information on what to do next

517
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,360
so

518
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:29,520
Soviet Sputnik 5 in 1960 had a very successful mission carrying two dogs Belka and Strelka and

519
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:35,360
They recovered after orbit and the following year despite Cold War tensions

520
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:42,160
Soviet Premier Nikita Khrushchev gave one of Strelka's puppies to young Caroline Kennedy and

521
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:44,920
They named her Pushenka

522
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:51,680
Eventually she gave birth to four of her own puppies and John F. Kennedy referred to her or referred to them as the pupnics

523
00:41:52,240 --> 00:41:58,400
Which is cute. That is cute. That's a dad joke. They've totally and then I looked it up and the pupnics are

524
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:05,060
They're all given to like I mean people really wanted them because again Americans are obsessed with their animals

525
00:42:05,060 --> 00:42:09,180
True and they I think for one of them there was like a drawing or like

526
00:42:09,180 --> 00:42:14,740
You like little kids just wrote in a letter of why they wanted one of the puppies and I think

527
00:42:15,180 --> 00:42:17,180
One of the puppies ended up in like Iowa

528
00:42:17,740 --> 00:42:25,140
Or something and just lived its best life just frolicking through the corn. Yeah, not knowing how it came there because of its ancestors. Yeah

529
00:42:27,060 --> 00:42:31,980
So NASA was founded in 1958 which I really so that's not that long ago

530
00:42:32,620 --> 00:42:34,180
and

531
00:42:34,180 --> 00:42:36,180
despite them being more

532
00:42:36,180 --> 00:42:41,900
Crone to being careful with animals, of course, they also had their ups and downs

533
00:42:42,620 --> 00:42:47,780
but from 1958 to 1961 they had used hamsters mice

534
00:42:48,860 --> 00:42:50,860
monkeys and pigs and

535
00:42:52,060 --> 00:42:54,380
Surprisingly most had a successful return

536
00:42:55,300 --> 00:43:00,540
one in particular in January of 1961 was a champies named Ham

537
00:43:00,540 --> 00:43:10,900
It is an acronym for the Holloman arrow med. I think it's Holloman is like either where he was stationed or the rocket he was in

538
00:43:12,100 --> 00:43:14,900
But he was the first chimpanzee in space a

539
00:43:15,740 --> 00:43:22,700
Board the Mercury redstone rocket and he was on a sub-orbital flight. So he just went up there and he was great

540
00:43:22,700 --> 00:43:27,500
He's really adorable. He's really cute. There's a picture of him and Alan Shepard holding hands

541
00:43:28,340 --> 00:43:29,740
Yeah

542
00:43:29,740 --> 00:43:30,820
yes

543
00:43:30,820 --> 00:43:34,020
so ham performed so well during his flight that

544
00:43:37,060 --> 00:43:41,840
He even recovered quickly he had splashed down in the Atlantic Ocean

545
00:43:42,140 --> 00:43:45,060
60 miles from the recovery ship and he was

546
00:43:45,420 --> 00:43:47,340
waitlist for six minutes

547
00:43:47,340 --> 00:43:54,460
during a 16-minute flight and a post flight medical examination found that he was only slightly fatigued and

548
00:43:54,620 --> 00:43:57,860
dehydrated but in good shape and this paved the way for

549
00:43:57,860 --> 00:44:01,700
Alan Shepard to be the first human astronaut in

550
00:44:02,500 --> 00:44:06,340
May of 1961 so just like four months later. He was that is pretty cool

551
00:44:06,340 --> 00:44:12,940
I think at this point humans were like enough with the animals already like this is our goal. Just put me up there. Yeah

552
00:44:14,060 --> 00:44:15,500
so

553
00:44:15,500 --> 00:44:18,580
after his successful flight in space

554
00:44:19,060 --> 00:44:24,900
Ham went to a comfortable zoo where he spent the rest of his life and then he was

555
00:44:24,900 --> 00:44:29,700
Layed to rest in front of the space Hall of Fame in Alamogordo, New Mexico

556
00:44:30,700 --> 00:44:36,460
1983 like he lived a long life. I'm like that's almost right before I was born

557
00:44:38,900 --> 00:44:45,580
October 18th 1963 so just as a sidebar the French were like let's get ourselves in the running here

558
00:44:45,740 --> 00:44:51,860
They were the only country outside of the USSR and the US to even join the space race

559
00:44:51,860 --> 00:44:56,140
They were just wanting to kind of do it for fun. They're like, oh, whatever. She's so French of them

560
00:44:56,140 --> 00:44:59,000
They love me because this is what is so French of them

561
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:05,020
They were the first and only people to launch a cat into space. Oh my gosh and the cat survived

562
00:45:05,340 --> 00:45:09,020
Good job French people. Uh-huh and her name was Felicity

563
00:45:09,860 --> 00:45:15,540
And she is so cute. She's a tuxedo long hair. I love everything. We'll think about that. Yeah

564
00:45:15,540 --> 00:45:21,740
They literally like we did it. We all could have kept into space. They're like, let's close up shop everyone

565
00:45:21,740 --> 00:45:25,220
The French are like we proved that we could do it better than you guys

566
00:45:25,660 --> 00:45:27,780
We're out. We used to get that

567
00:45:29,740 --> 00:45:31,740
So Felicity

568
00:45:32,860 --> 00:45:39,060
Was a Parisian stray that was one of 14 cats trained and only one chosen and

569
00:45:40,660 --> 00:45:43,940
Thankfully it was like once France did this they were like, well, that's enough

570
00:45:43,940 --> 00:45:47,900
They're like and she would have to be really famous like in

571
00:45:48,860 --> 00:45:53,620
French-speaking like African countries. They used her face on stamps. It was just

572
00:45:54,380 --> 00:45:59,020
Adorable God, I love France. Yeah, and then of course anytime an animal goes into space

573
00:46:00,380 --> 00:46:05,420
Anyone who has like all the money is like I need that animal. So like she lived in

574
00:46:05,940 --> 00:46:11,580
Luxury the rest of her life. I'm just imagining her like the cats from Marista cats. Totally. Yeah, I

575
00:46:11,580 --> 00:46:18,020
Like that. She sounds like she was like legally blonde where she's like like what like it's hard

576
00:46:20,220 --> 00:46:21,860
Yeah

577
00:46:21,860 --> 00:46:23,860
Okay, so over the course of

578
00:46:23,940 --> 00:46:31,020
The next few decades many different creatures went into space including in 1973 in the US to garden spiders

579
00:46:31,580 --> 00:46:36,780
Oh, Arabella and Anita. Those are very cute. Very cute names. They

580
00:46:38,100 --> 00:46:40,100
successfully spun webs and

581
00:46:40,100 --> 00:46:44,500
This gave scientists the opportunity to study webs that were

582
00:46:45,260 --> 00:46:50,380
Created in low or no gravity, which I'm like, I don't know why they'd want to know that. I don't know why not, right?

583
00:46:50,380 --> 00:46:53,060
But it's like they were different. They were

584
00:46:53,740 --> 00:46:59,780
thinner in some places and thicker which was unusual because on earth they are all uniform

585
00:47:00,020 --> 00:47:04,580
But for some reason the spiders were like and I wonder if it's just because of no gravity. They had to anyway

586
00:47:05,220 --> 00:47:07,220
What scientists learned is

587
00:47:07,220 --> 00:47:14,380
Spiders they know what they're doing. They're like little art little tiny architects of scary. They are very smart. They are I

588
00:47:15,260 --> 00:47:18,220
Actually wrote not sure what they learned from this, but I'm sure it was something

589
00:47:21,020 --> 00:47:27,660
So over the years as human space travel became more commonplace thankfully animal space travel slowly discontinued

590
00:47:27,980 --> 00:47:35,780
By the mid 90s NASA finally which is the mid 90s come on NASA finally started to heavily question the ethics of using animals for research

591
00:47:35,780 --> 00:47:40,620
They're like, are we terrible? Are we the problem?

592
00:47:41,740 --> 00:47:44,220
Like no, it must be Russia. That's the problem

593
00:47:46,180 --> 00:47:51,900
So at least for space testing of course for animal testing, but throughout the 90s

594
00:47:52,260 --> 00:47:54,260
2000s and 2010s many

595
00:47:54,740 --> 00:48:02,700
Organized organisms not human were still launched into space, but they were like 99% of them were insect related

596
00:48:02,700 --> 00:48:06,980
however in 2018 this space X

597
00:48:08,580 --> 00:48:10,580
Elon Musk's space

598
00:48:11,860 --> 00:48:13,860
Company I guess

599
00:48:14,340 --> 00:48:16,580
Launched from Florida carrying 20 mice

600
00:48:17,540 --> 00:48:24,140
They launched on June 29th and arrived at the International Space Station on July 2nd

601
00:48:24,140 --> 00:48:29,460
And this was a record-breaking journey. It's the longest mice have been off-planet and survived

602
00:48:29,460 --> 00:48:33,220
Hmm. I just have to say yeah one of the many

603
00:48:34,340 --> 00:48:36,660
Reasons on my list that I don't like Elon is

604
00:48:37,620 --> 00:48:43,780
The 20 mice put into space. I don't like you. We were like hey, you just gave us another reason to not like you. Yeah

605
00:48:44,500 --> 00:48:46,500
Anyway, yeah

606
00:48:47,020 --> 00:48:51,420
And this apparently was part of a study to show how earth dwellers

607
00:48:53,020 --> 00:48:57,900
Physiology and sleep schedules would respond to being in space, and I'm like you already know, it's not good

608
00:48:57,900 --> 00:49:04,700
Why do you need mice to tell you that? Yeah, did you get a good night's sleep little mouse? He's like, oh my god

609
00:49:04,700 --> 00:49:06,580
I had the worst dreams

610
00:49:06,580 --> 00:49:08,580
Where am I?

611
00:49:08,820 --> 00:49:13,580
Okay, and then finally the latest launch record was June 3rd

612
00:49:13,980 --> 00:49:18,460
2021 SpaceX again because SpaceX is not NASA and NASA's like

613
00:49:19,140 --> 00:49:25,100
Hey, we decided to not do this, but and Elon's like I'll do whatever I want. Yeah, he's like I'm gonna buy NASA

614
00:49:25,100 --> 00:49:30,140
Don't buy NASA. Don't get that idea. No, please don't don't so they launched water bears

615
00:49:30,580 --> 00:49:32,580
What I know this like they're like

616
00:49:34,260 --> 00:49:39,540
Target grades I forget the term for it, but they're like the heartiest little creature they can live in the vacuum of space. I

617
00:49:40,420 --> 00:49:45,740
Did not know that I'll just show you a picture. They're a little freaky looking mm-hmm, but they are

618
00:49:45,740 --> 00:49:54,300
Like they can be frozen for thousands of years and still be alive. Huh? Okay. Yeah, like hold on. This is worth noting a

619
00:49:55,460 --> 00:49:57,460
Water bear in space. Oh

620
00:49:58,460 --> 00:50:01,220
Yes, I have like tiny tiny tiny

621
00:50:02,460 --> 00:50:05,300
Interesting weird things, but they are just

622
00:50:06,660 --> 00:50:11,580
Doing something they're micro animals. I don't know I should know more about them. I don't know what they do

623
00:50:11,580 --> 00:50:14,660
That's interesting though. Yeah, so in addition to the water bears

624
00:50:14,660 --> 00:50:18,420
They also sent Hawaiian bobtail squid. Oh

625
00:50:19,540 --> 00:50:26,420
To the International Space Station and the squid were launched as hatchlings and will be studied to see if they can incorporate

626
00:50:26,660 --> 00:50:33,380
Their symbiotic bacteria in their light organ while in space. I don't know what any of that means neither

627
00:50:33,380 --> 00:50:38,620
In fact, it sounds like a lot of baloney. It does. I'm like, I don't think they want to do anything about their light organ

628
00:50:38,980 --> 00:50:41,860
Did you even ask them? They said no

629
00:50:41,860 --> 00:50:43,860
So to wrap it all up

630
00:50:44,740 --> 00:50:51,380
I'm gonna give you a quote from NASA to because NASA is gonna try and make you think that this was all for good. Okay

631
00:50:51,860 --> 00:50:53,860
Over the past 70 plus years

632
00:50:53,860 --> 00:50:57,820
American and Soviet scientists have utilized the animal world for testing

633
00:50:58,300 --> 00:51:04,700
Despite losses these animals have taught the scientists a tremendous amount more than could have been learned without them

634
00:51:05,020 --> 00:51:08,460
Without animal testing in the early days of the human space program

635
00:51:08,460 --> 00:51:12,500
The Soviet and American programs would have suffered great losses of human life

636
00:51:13,020 --> 00:51:18,900
These animals performed a service to their respective countries that no human could or would have performed

637
00:51:19,020 --> 00:51:26,740
They have given their lives and their service in the name of technological advancement paving the way for humanity's many forays into space

638
00:51:28,340 --> 00:51:33,740
I like that. They're like, you know, if we hadn't tested on animals then humans would have died

639
00:51:33,740 --> 00:51:39,660
What if you just didn't go into space? Yeah, that was always an option. I think there's some guy out there

640
00:51:39,660 --> 00:51:41,660
That'd be willing to go into space despite

641
00:51:42,460 --> 00:51:44,460
the oh, I'm sure

642
00:51:45,500 --> 00:51:48,500
Yeah, some guy is like yeah, I'm gonna tell you something

643
00:51:49,500 --> 00:51:51,500
Space I'm gonna do it

644
00:51:54,460 --> 00:51:59,100
And I guess each of like these like ham like a and

645
00:51:59,100 --> 00:52:03,340
And felicitate they all each have their own

646
00:52:04,020 --> 00:52:07,140
statues in their respective countries and then I was reading about how

647
00:52:07,860 --> 00:52:12,700
Ham had his own like of course had their own because it turns out in like 2017

648
00:52:13,020 --> 00:52:18,580
Russia felt so guilty about what they did to like that. They had they basically wrote a formal apology

649
00:52:19,140 --> 00:52:21,140
Good. I mean it took you a long time

650
00:52:21,140 --> 00:52:29,180
So they gave her her own statue, but the French were like, how do we not have a statue of felicitate?

651
00:52:29,500 --> 00:52:33,980
So they actually made a go fund me for it and in 2017

652
00:52:33,980 --> 00:52:37,900
I believe they also like erected it and the guy who started it

653
00:52:37,900 --> 00:52:42,100
He was like this is one of the things that shows the internet is a good place because literally

654
00:52:42,740 --> 00:52:48,340
She deserved this and we made it happen because of people that is around the world. So anyway, that's to

655
00:52:48,340 --> 00:52:51,780
wrap up one of the saddest things we've had to talk about and

656
00:52:52,500 --> 00:52:58,860
I hope I did them justice. I think you did. Yeah, thank you. I'm like

657
00:53:00,100 --> 00:53:01,300
Sad

658
00:53:01,300 --> 00:53:07,380
But also angered angered. Yeah, but also I like learning about cute little animals

659
00:53:07,420 --> 00:53:14,460
I'm glad felicitate was okay and had a life and ham and ham. I just you know justice for Leica

660
00:53:14,460 --> 00:53:18,140
Yeah, Leica makes me feel so sad. I know also just like

661
00:53:19,020 --> 00:53:22,780
Imagining them giving her little kiss. I know like that just breaks my heart

662
00:53:23,020 --> 00:53:29,580
At least what I hope is that she was warm and comfortable. She like had all the food she wanted

663
00:53:29,580 --> 00:53:34,700
She was very snug. She got kisses on her nose and I think she might have just gone to sleep. Yeah

664
00:53:34,700 --> 00:53:37,180
So that's what I hope I hope so too. Yeah

665
00:53:38,180 --> 00:53:43,500
Okay, well, do you want to take a short break before I do mine? Yes, I do need a breather for a second

666
00:53:43,500 --> 00:53:48,060
That's good. All right, so it's time for my story. Yes, and

667
00:53:48,860 --> 00:53:53,620
Don't worry listeners. There is no dog death in this story. So it's okay

668
00:53:53,740 --> 00:54:00,500
It's just the story of a very good boy and this good boy's name is Togo the

669
00:54:01,500 --> 00:54:05,020
Well, I'll just tell you the story of Togo. Okay, I feel like Togo the amazing dog

670
00:54:05,020 --> 00:54:10,060
I'm like, you know what? I'm not gonna tell you anything about him yet. I can't wait. So my main sources were

671
00:54:10,060 --> 00:54:16,900
Uh, the American Kennel Club had a great article called the true story of Togo

672
00:54:16,900 --> 00:54:22,740
And that was written by will Hank and then of course Wikipedia and that was pretty much all I needed

673
00:54:22,740 --> 00:54:27,900
Yeah, they were so detailed. So here we go. So first we're gonna start with Togo's or

674
00:54:28,900 --> 00:54:32,460
His orange story. We're gonna start with his owner

675
00:54:33,740 --> 00:54:36,020
So his owner's name was

676
00:54:36,940 --> 00:54:38,940
Willam DeFoe

677
00:54:38,940 --> 00:54:43,220
We wish he should be Willam DeFoe. He needs to be played by Willam DeFoe

678
00:54:43,220 --> 00:54:47,740
But he was played by Harrison Ford, right? Yes, he was played by Harrison Ford and I will get to

679
00:54:48,260 --> 00:54:53,420
The movies and everything soon. So just preemptively listener if you watch the movie

680
00:54:53,780 --> 00:55:00,180
Put Willam DeFoe's face over Harrison Ford. I've never said that sentence before in my life. Yeah, that's a weird sentence

681
00:55:00,180 --> 00:55:02,180
That is weird. We're like, don't look at Harrison Ford

682
00:55:02,180 --> 00:55:07,180
I'm like, I've never been told to not look at Harrison Ford. I feel weird about it

683
00:55:07,180 --> 00:55:13,980
Okay, so but his owner's name was Norwegian born Lenhardt SEPOLA

684
00:55:13,980 --> 00:55:21,060
And he first arrived in Alaska in 1900 and when he arrived there most sled dogs were

685
00:55:21,420 --> 00:55:23,420
Alaskan Malamutes and

686
00:55:23,580 --> 00:55:26,940
SEPOLA began making a name for himself as one of the strongest

687
00:55:27,340 --> 00:55:32,820
Mushers in Nome, Alaska and for those that don't know, Mushers are the ones that are like

688
00:55:33,500 --> 00:55:35,500
the humans that are

689
00:55:35,500 --> 00:55:42,500
Telling the dogs how to go like on the sled kind of like a conductor kind of yeah the dog conductor

690
00:55:42,500 --> 00:55:44,500
They're like the trainer. Yeah, basically

691
00:55:46,100 --> 00:55:53,700
Around that time Siberian Huskies were brought to Alaska by Russian fur trader William Gooseck and

692
00:55:54,100 --> 00:56:00,340
In the summer of 1909 English, Musher Fox Ramsey, which is a great name. That is a great name

693
00:56:00,340 --> 00:56:06,300
Imported 60 Siberians to know I think he was in X-Files

694
00:56:06,300 --> 00:56:07,620
I almost said regal

695
00:56:07,620 --> 00:56:08,620
I don't know

696
00:56:08,620 --> 00:56:10,620
Wow, it's special

697
00:56:11,100 --> 00:56:19,260
It's estimated that Togo was born in 1913 to a dog named Dolly. Oh, no Dolly the mom dog

698
00:56:19,380 --> 00:56:23,500
She's so cute. Apparently she was a very good breeding dog

699
00:56:24,140 --> 00:56:28,640
Poor Dolly. She's like, she's like, tired of these kids. They don't want to keep having babies. Yeah

700
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:32,080
Maybe she liked it. I don't know. Yeah, Togo was named after

701
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:38,320
Hey, Hachiro Togo a Japanese admiral who fought in the war between Russia and Japan and

702
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:44,600
Togo was dark brown with cream black and gray markings and he had ice blue eyes

703
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:51,640
He was very cute. We have lots of pictures that we're gonna post with this pick with this episode because he was just so cute

704
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:56,440
And I like just a Togo collage. It will like look at his cute face

705
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:57,800
Togo

706
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:01,320
And as a puppy Togo suffered health problems

707
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:06,960
So Sepla gave him up for adoption because he didn't think that he could use him as one of his

708
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:09,800
musher dogs

709
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:11,320
so

710
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:17,960
He gave him up to a nice family. However, little Togo threw himself through a plate glass window and

711
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:23,080
Escaped back home. So Sepla figured he was stuck with the dog and he kept him

712
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:30,160
That is intense. Togo. He's like you will not give me away. I

713
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:36,480
Can't even throw myself through a plate glass window as a human and he was just a little puppy. Wow

714
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:41,800
He's the baby. He was proving his strength. He was he's like I am cantankerous

715
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:46,280
As Togo grew he loved to watch the working sled dogs

716
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:48,280
But he was too young to be in the harness

717
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:55,040
But he would often get loose and run alongside the sled dogs anyway. So Sepla finally relented and

718
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:59,500
Put a harness on eight month old Togo and hooked him up to the team

719
00:57:59,500 --> 00:58:02,400
Which I wish there was pictures of that. I bet that was so cute

720
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:08,400
It would be so be like an 80s montage where it was just like a fun song playing and it's like rocky

721
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:12,400
The best

722
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:14,680
Oh, that's karate kid. Yeah

723
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:17,200
These are but karate. Yeah

724
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:22,980
So little eight month Togo ran 75 miles the first day in his harness and

725
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:27,440
Sepla finally realized that he had found the perfect lead sled dog

726
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:32,560
Over the years Togo became known for his tenacity strength and intelligence

727
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:37,280
Togo and Sepla became inseparable and during this time

728
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:43,480
Sepla won the all Alaska sweepstakes, which was a mushing competition in

729
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:49,200
in 1915 1916 and 1917 with Togo being the lead dog and

730
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:51,240
then

731
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:55,320
We're getting to what Togo and Sepla are famous for

732
00:58:55,920 --> 00:59:02,520
So in the winter of 1925 a deadly outbreak of diphtheria spread in no, Alaska

733
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:09,960
Children were especially at risk for the disease, but due to the isolation of gnome getting the medicine was very difficult

734
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:15,160
I really want to be like could they get it? No way

735
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,000
No way home. Yeah

736
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:22,040
They're like that's it you're fired

737
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:25,640
They did have an anti toxin

738
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:32,520
But the nearest they could get it by rail was a town called Nanana. I don't know if I'm saying that right. I'm sorry

739
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:34,520
It sounds good to me. It sounds cute

740
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:36,320
Which was

741
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:41,920
674 miles from gnome. So that really that's really far remotely. Oh my gosh. That's so far

742
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:47,640
That's like when you're in California driving to LA and you're like, I'm so close to LA. I can feel it and then it says

743
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:49,600
Los Angeles

744
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:53,920
674 miles. Oh gosh, I know it takes forever and you're like to LA. That's it. I'm turning around

745
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:57,040
Why did my brain go?

746
00:59:57,040 --> 01:00:02,240
I like I got a lot of that. I'm on the five. I got a tech on exit

747
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:07,840
Sorry togo. Okay. Sorry togo. We're gonna get to your story. Yeah

748
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:14,960
There was also a blizzard. So traveling by air was impossible. So officials decided on sled dogs

749
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:20,000
By the time of the outbreak sepula was 47 and toga was 12

750
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:24,320
So both were a bit old and considered past their prime

751
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:26,800
I was like the NBA. I know

752
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:34,000
I mean like not old by any other standards, but by their standards. They're like, oh, I mean for a dog that is old

753
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:37,040
Yeah, like 47. Yeah. No

754
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:43,920
Uh locals knew that sepula and toga were their best chance. So they recruited them anyway

755
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:51,200
On january 20th sepula and his 20 best dogs set out for gnome to retrieve the serum

756
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:57,200
sepula's team and the westbound team led by Henry Ivanov nearly missed each other

757
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:03,920
But were able to make the trade because this was kind of a relay situation and there were several teams of

758
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:06,320
mushers and sled dogs

759
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:12,480
but um sepula and his team by far traveled the greatest distance because they were the most experienced

760
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:15,360
um on the ice

761
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:21,840
Sorry, I can't talk. On the return trip the team became stranded on an ice flow

762
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:27,360
sepula tied a lead to togo and tossed him across five feet of water

763
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:30,320
togo attempted to pull the flow

764
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:36,560
With the rest of the team on it, but the line snapped togo being a very smart and good boy

765
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:37,920
I put that in myself

766
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:38,480
Yes

767
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:45,040
And an amazing lead snatched the line from the water and rolled it around his shoulders like a harness and pulled the team

768
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:49,680
To safety. He's so smart. He's such a smart and good boy. The heck

769
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:50,720
I know

770
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:55,440
I don't know if people could figure that out. No, seriously. And like he would have to have such

771
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:57,440
quick reaction time

772
01:01:57,440 --> 01:01:58,960
strength and

773
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:03,360
Yeah, smarts pulling 19 other dogs and a grown man

774
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:07,200
It's crazy. It's crazy and it's almost like

775
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:10,320
That sounds fake like

776
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:15,760
When if you wrote that into like a screenplay, they're like, yeah, they're like come on. That's a little come on

777
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:21,520
Yeah, and togo's like, no, this is very real. Yeah, sepula's like, that's my boy. That's my boy

778
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:24,320
That's my plate glass boy

779
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:32,880
sepula and his team made the handoff in

780
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:34,480
gullivan

781
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:43,920
And the final stretch of the relay was led by musher gunner kawson who had chosen balto who is often thought of as

782
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:46,560
The hero of this story

783
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:50,640
And actually balto was from sepula's kennel

784
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:55,440
But sepula had not chosen him because he thought that he was not ready to be a lead

785
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:59,440
I have a question. Yes. Are balto and togo related?

786
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:00,800
They're not

787
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:01,760
Oh

788
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:07,040
Interesting. I know I thought I mean if they are it wasn't very anywhere here

789
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:12,720
But this article was like super detailed. So I think if they were yeah, I mentioned. Okay. Also

790
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:15,600
Did you ever watch the movie balto? Yes

791
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:18,400
Okay. Yeah, I watched that when I was a little kid

792
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:23,760
And then when I found out that he was not even the one that did the majority of the trip

793
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:28,480
I was like, what the heck like why is this not about telling a lie?

794
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:33,200
I know it wasn't charlie sheen is voice or something. Oh god. I don't remember. Who was the voice of balto?

795
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:35,840
Oh, we need to look this up because it might be like

796
01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:42,720
This may this rings true. Oh that'd be so sad. Is it christianslater? It's got that vibe. Oh, let's see

797
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:46,000
balto

798
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:47,520
I haven't seen it in so long

799
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:54,240
We need you to like a justice for togo. We do I guess disney did just make a live action. They did kevin bacon

800
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:57,840
Oh, it was so fun, but it's a little bit

801
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:03,280
And I remember I was like obsessed with the girl. She was so beautiful and uh

802
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:06,080
And I was played by bridgett fonda

803
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:08,000
Oh my gosh

804
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:13,680
Anyway, Jenna. Yeah, I was like I wanted to be that girl dog me too. I want to be a girl dog in

805
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:21,040
Um, alaska in the turn of the century. I'm like, why is it so specific? Why is that dog so pretty so pretty?

806
01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:27,040
Oh, okay. Um, so back to back to balto. So february 3

807
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:32,080
1925 uh kason and balto ride into gnome

808
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:39,040
and the lead dog balto who finished the last 53 miles gets more fame and recognition and

809
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:48,400
uh, many say that it was sepula and his lead togo that were the true heroes togo did an impressive

810
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:54,240
264 miles compared to the average 31 miles of the other teams

811
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:56,720
261 miles. Yeah

812
01:04:57,120 --> 01:05:01,680
And did balto get that I don't know. I think it's just because they were the ones that finished that

813
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:05,520
Oh, I see. So probably when they got there there was like, I imagine

814
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:08,400
news people reporters

815
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:15,440
And it's not like now where you can get news on demand and it's not like they're like togo was here first

816
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:21,120
Yeah, they're like this might have just been balto and I'm sure you know, like they're all doing this to try and help

817
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:27,360
Sick kids. So I'm sure sepula is not like, hey, it was my dog. You know, and it's also I keep like attaching

818
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:34,240
Human personalities to these dogs. They're dogs. Yeah, they're literally not even caring that someone thinks someone did something better than them

819
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:36,960
Yeah, togo was like, I'm just doing my job. He's like

820
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:40,000
He's like, I just really like running. Yeah

821
01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:42,560
He's like, who's balto?

822
01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:48,960
He's like sniffed him and he's like, oh, yeah, I recognize that smell or he's gonna be like, I don't even know him

823
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:51,760
He doesn't go here. No, he does

824
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:56,800
Okay, um

825
01:05:57,280 --> 01:05:59,120
so in

826
01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:01,120
The years following the rescue mission

827
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:04,480
sepula traveled to new england and took on

828
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:06,800
a local

829
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:08,800
teams and a dog race

830
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:13,280
And even though togo was 12 years old, he might have been older at this time

831
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:16,240
He was in the lead and they triumphed

832
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:23,440
During togo's last race and beat the other team. What? Yeah, and he he did not die right after that

833
01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:30,080
He just retired because he was 12 because in like a movie he would just collapse and right sepula's arms

834
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:32,240
but no because sepula was a good owner

835
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:35,680
so he just realized that it was time for him to retire and then

836
01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:39,520
um when he was 12 sepula and

837
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:42,240
sepula wasn't 12

838
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:46,240
I will get the win but it sounded like sepula was

839
01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:48,560
to us so

840
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:50,800
Strongest preteen we've ever met

841
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:53,440
They made a real different back then they did

842
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:55,040
um

843
01:06:55,040 --> 01:07:02,240
When togo was 12 sepula and new england musher elizabeth ricker opened up a kennel and poland spring main

844
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:08,800
Where togo lived out the rest of his years and togo was put to rest at the age of 16 in 1932

845
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:14,560
Which for like wow for a dog even now. Yeah for a dog now and also like

846
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:17,200
For the breed for the job

847
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:23,200
Because usually dogs like that like I know anything about dogs. Do you like that? I'm like well my experiences

848
01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:24,800
No, I don't really know anything

849
01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:32,880
But I do know if dogs are a working class don't they kind of like make their heart tired because I don't I don't know

850
01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:39,920
Yeah, I just I just remember like learning about that my first job was at a dog kennel. So I had to learn about oh

851
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:42,720
okay, yeah, um, so like

852
01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:49,200
We learned about how um great danes for instance. They don't live very long because their heart tires out

853
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:57,360
So dogs that have a lot of power. It's like they want to keep living but their body's like I'm so I'm so tired

854
01:07:57,600 --> 01:08:02,000
Yeah, that's what I've heard like a lot of times bigger dogs like they don't last as long

855
01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:04,240
But maybe huskies are just resilient. Maybe

856
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:09,200
Maybe maybe they're built different in the 1930s. I don't know hashtag built different

857
01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:17,600
And then um sepula himself passed away in 1967 at the age of 89

858
01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:23,760
Wow, and as for his thoughts on togo and the great race sepula spoke about it in an un

859
01:08:24,480 --> 01:08:26,480
unpublished autobiography

860
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:28,000
He said afterwards

861
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:34,400
I thought of the ice and the darkness and the terrible wind and the irony that men could build planes and ships

862
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:39,840
But when gnome needed life and little packages of serum it took dogs to bring it through

863
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:44,560
Oh, I know so sweet. I I also really wish his

864
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:49,360
Uh autobiography had been published because I'd be really interested to read that but there isn't one

865
01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:52,480
Uh, not that I've seen. Yeah, maybe

866
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:55,680
I don't there's just one written in norwegian

867
01:08:57,520 --> 01:09:01,120
Maybe I don't know. Maybe his family just didn't decide to release it

868
01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:05,520
balto who is uh, you know considered the hero he

869
01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:11,840
earned a statue in central park and for years togo didn't get the recognition that he deserved

870
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:18,000
But he received his own statue in seward park in new york city in 2001

871
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:21,440
And he also got his own movie on disney plus

872
01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:27,440
And it starred his own descendant diesel playing togo his own dissent

873
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:31,920
Okay, I have to watch the movie now. Have you watched it? I haven't because I for some reason

874
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:35,840
I was worried because it has dogs on it and that makes me sad not like I just did a sad dog

875
01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:37,440
Right

876
01:09:37,440 --> 01:09:40,720
But I think since I know the dog survived, maybe I should just do it

877
01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:42,960
I know and I would love to see his

878
01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:47,120
Uh descendant and plus Harrison Ford

879
01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:54,080
And he was also recently featured in the uh, American Kennel Club Museum of the dog exhibition

880
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:59,680
mush a tribute to sled dogs from arctic exploration to the iditarod and he

881
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:03,040
He is also on display

882
01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:05,440
Oh his body?

883
01:10:05,440 --> 01:10:06,560
Where?

884
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:10,240
I think it's in alaska. Yeah, that would be interesting

885
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:15,840
But um, that's a little weird. I feel kind of weird about that personally, but if that's your thing

886
01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:18,400
That's cool. Yeah, I saw

887
01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:25,840
So one time I went to amsterdam and we went to the rikes museum and there was a horse there on display like a real horse from

888
01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:28,560
the napoleonic era

889
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:34,800
And he had a really interesting name in a life, but it was so weird to see a real horse that was just there. Yeah

890
01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:36,240
and

891
01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:38,240
hundreds of years old. Yeah, that's

892
01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:43,600
I'm like, I would rather just imagine him. Yeah, and well and there's also I

893
01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:49,360
When I was researching I almost started crying because there's this really cute picture

894
01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:55,440
I'd actually had pinned to my pingers for a while of togo and sepula and then in the article

895
01:10:55,440 --> 01:10:57,440
I was reading it said

896
01:10:57,440 --> 01:11:02,800
sepula bidding a final farewell to his beloved dog and I was like, oh gosh

897
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:05,360
That's right in the heart. I know

898
01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:14,240
Dogs really are the best. I know as much as I love cats. I don't think a cat would ever care enough to

899
01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:20,240
Run 600 miles. No, they they show their love in other ways. Thank you, but

900
01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:28,320
Yeah, I can't I don't know who am I gonna say maybe a cat has done that. I feel like cats are like, oh, you need to have that done today

901
01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:33,200
They're like, let me just lay down and lick myself. Yeah, like let me think about that

902
01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:39,280
But yeah, I can't wait to post pictures because togo has the sweetest little face

903
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:44,560
It's gonna be like the episode of the goodest boy and the goodest girl. I know togo and leica

904
01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:47,280
I hope friends forever

905
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:50,880
I hope they're on the rainbow bridge together. They are

906
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:55,520
And togo's a lot older than her, but I feel like if they were in the same

907
01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:58,080
Era they would have been friends. Yeah

908
01:11:58,480 --> 01:12:00,080
also, this is

909
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:03,840
Sort of related to the story but not but the other day I was like

910
01:12:04,480 --> 01:12:09,040
Do you ever like hear a sound on tiktok and you're like, I don't know what that's from so I'm gonna like click on the sound

911
01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:10,240
Yeah

912
01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:16,000
I made that mistake. Oh, because it was a sound from the movie all dogs go to heaven

913
01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:20,320
No, which I never watched as a child. You never know myself

914
01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:24,240
No, don't do it because I was like I like dogs and then I was like, oh

915
01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:30,320
Oh, and she's in it. That's where I got the voice from the dog's name is charlie. Is it charlie shane?

916
01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:31,840
I don't know

917
01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:36,160
Look at the dog's name is charlie. Yes. He's like going to the little girl and he's like

918
01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:42,320
I'm just coming to say goodbye and she's like, where are you going and I'm like, oh, oh gosh

919
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:45,600
Oh gosh, now I need to see

920
01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:50,880
But yeah, just that movie. I don't know what it is about children's movies in the 90s

921
01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:53,840
It was all about we're going to rip out your heart

922
01:12:54,480 --> 01:12:59,680
Seriously, they just wanted us to cry all the time. They're like, here are your abandonment issues

923
01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:06,160
It's not remotely charlie sheen at all. We don't even like charlie sheen. Why don't who is it?

924
01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:08,720
It's burt reynolds

925
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:10,960
Wow

926
01:13:11,440 --> 01:13:14,400
I like it even more now because I know it was a mustache

927
01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:17,520
So I love burt reynolds. I love burt reynolds

928
01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:20,880
I we're putting this on here first. We love burt reynolds

929
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:26,720
Also, I was just watching golden girls the other day and they're all excited to meet burt reynolds

930
01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:32,080
And at the end like burt reynolds comes to the house and is like, I'm here to pick up sofia

931
01:13:32,480 --> 01:13:36,400
Because they didn't believe her right? Yeah, like that's nice. Sofia. Yeah, man

932
01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:39,120
Golden girls is such a comfort. It is

933
01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:46,720
I'm like watch that instead of all dogs go to heaven. Also real talk pedro pascal is current burt reynolds

934
01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:49,280
And his face. Oh my gosh, totally right?

935
01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:54,000
Yes, because I saw a trailer for a movie. I don't even remember which one it was

936
01:13:54,320 --> 01:13:58,640
But I was literally like that is burt reynolds. He's got like the mustache thing

937
01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:04,960
Immediately like well, I am interested. Yeah color me interested. He's like one of the few old

938
01:14:05,440 --> 01:14:08,000
Hollywood actors that I feel like I haven't heard

939
01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:12,320
Like please don't tell me if you've heard anything bad because I haven't heard anything bad about burt reynolds

940
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:19,760
I haven't either just the classic 70s stuff for people probably smoke and drink. Yeah, but cheat on their spouses

941
01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:25,280
I hope not probably not. I haven't heard anything creepy. Yeah, nothing. Yeah, yeah, that's the

942
01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:28,800
That's the real thing, isn't it? Yeah, but

943
01:14:29,440 --> 01:14:33,600
Anyway, that's the story of sweet sweet boy togo

944
01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:38,560
I'm really glad you ended on that one because that was much happier, you know, I was like

945
01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:41,680
I think I said you the gif of like

946
01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:46,960
Tobias on rest of development like crying. Yes, that's exactly it

947
01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:52,320
That was me like even though there's like nothing sad in the story. I was like he's just such a different way

948
01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:57,280
It's so pure. That was me at work. So like having to help patients in between

949
01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:03,440
Like rereading my research and being like, oh my gosh. Why am I doing this to myself? Yeah

950
01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:05,840
well

951
01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:08,800
Do we have anything else to say before we go?

952
01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:11,680
Um

953
01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:14,080
Well, I do have one thing to say. Okay, is that

954
01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:16,640
togo story

955
01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:21,120
It shows how humans and animals if they work together

956
01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:27,520
It can be really good. Yes, and that I think humans are supposed to take care of animals

957
01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:34,240
Especially if you've domesticated them. I think that's your responsibility. Exactly. But it don't abuse

958
01:15:34,240 --> 01:15:36,240
animals abilities

959
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:42,800
Because they don't have a way of advocating for themselves. Yeah, if you if you're out there

960
01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:46,800
And you do anything to animals, we're gonna come and kick your butt. Yeah, we're like

961
01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:51,840
Don't even do it. Don't even think about it. We're like Liam Neeson. We have a special set of skills. Yeah

962
01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:57,200
When Liam Neeson only when it comes to animals, yeah, humans were like, man, I wish I could do something

963
01:15:57,200 --> 01:15:58,480
I don't have

964
01:15:58,480 --> 01:16:00,480
I can actually can do CPR

965
01:16:00,480 --> 01:16:06,800
Oh, yeah, you're like that won't help be anyone up but I can resist. Yeah

966
01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:13,120
Yeah, but that's about it. And um, if you're gonna watch a movie with animals look it up on

967
01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:18,320
Does the dog die? Yeah. Um, that is important. Yeah, I have used it before. Yeah

968
01:16:19,040 --> 01:16:22,400
And I'm gonna watch the Harrison Ford

969
01:16:23,440 --> 01:16:24,720
Um

970
01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:32,640
Tug a movie where Harrison plays Willem Dafoe? We should have a movie night. We should. Yeah

971
01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:39,280
And let's not watch all dogs go to heaven. Oh, no. No, I simply can't except his rentals

972
01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:44,080
Man, that makes me so happy. We're gonna watch something else with her. Yeah smoky in the banding. Yeah

973
01:16:44,720 --> 01:16:46,720
Goes to heaven. I also

974
01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:48,960
I also don't want to watch deliberate

975
01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:51,040
Oh my gosh

976
01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:57,440
Don't even look that up. Don't look that up even on anything. No, just make sure you don't know anything about deliverance

977
01:16:57,600 --> 01:17:02,160
Also, I haven't watched it either. I've just listened to a movie podcast talk about it

978
01:17:02,240 --> 01:17:09,360
So I just know that so many people who were alive as adults in the 70s like my poor dad, for instance

979
01:17:10,160 --> 01:17:16,640
Just went and saw it because it's like it's burnt Reynolds for Reynolds in a movie. Yeah, and then you're in it and you're like

980
01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:19,360
What's happening? I got to get out of here

981
01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:25,920
Also kind of insane like how for years I heard it referenced like in a joking way

982
01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:31,600
Not funny. And then when I heard what actually happened to the movie. I'm like, I am sorry. What? Yeah

983
01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:38,240
But don't use this as an excuse to look anything up anything look up pictures of togo. Yeah, look at togo and

984
01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:40,960
Willem Dafoe

985
01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:42,960
And Harrison Ford and for Reynolds

986
01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:48,000
But not all dogs go to heaven. Don't look up

987
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:53,600
Animals in space. They'll make you feel sad the inside. Okay, and well, that's all for me

988
01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:56,320
That's all for me too. Yeah

989
01:17:56,320 --> 01:18:19,280
We'll see you next time, which will be really soon. Goodbye. Goodbye