I don't know.
That's good too.
Thank you.
Then I'm going to say hello.
Hello.
I actually wear in a different setup
and it does sound better, doesn't it?
It does, and it feels more natural
to just be across the table looking at you
than weirdly turning my head
and staring directly into your eyes.
You're like, what?
Okay, hello.
Hello.
Hello, how are you?
I'm good, how are you?
Good.
But also, hello.
I'm Drew.
And I'm Olivia.
And if I know us, then we are-
Oddly curious.
And we are.
And we are, because you know us.
Yeah, and welcome.
And welcome.
Hello and welcome.
Hello.
It feels like it's been a long time
since we recorded it, it really hasn't.
No.
I think it's just because a lot has gone on.
I think it's just the weeks have felt long.
Long arduous.
I-
We're gonna say arduous?
I was gonna say arduous.
Earlier we did a clap at the same time
to sync ourselves up.
What if we were instead like arduous?
Oh my gosh.
You're like, and recording.
That's gonna be our new sync up.
It's just gonna be three, two, one arduous.
Yeah, I feel like that's a word
that doesn't get used very much,
but it's a good one because it means a lot.
Yeah, actually-
I mean, it literally means a lot.
Yeah, actually-
It's just like,
I think it's just a lot of things
that we're doing.
It literally means a lot.
And it's a lot.
It feels like a very Austinian word.
Oh, wow.
Austinian.
That's great.
I'm like, I'm sure I didn't make that up, but-
No, but I like it.
That's-
I mean, that is what it is.
I doubted myself when I said Austinian,
and I was like-
I mean, why wouldn't it be?
Those who get it?
Because it's like-
You're not-
I mean, Austin like sounds a little like-
Yeah.
It sounds like-
Elementary.
I'm not common folk.
Oh, exactly.
What are we saying?
I'm not common folk.
I'm elementary.
I'm getting all high and mighty.
Yeah.
Not us, not this podcast.
Especially not us in general.
No.
But yeah, so a lot has gone on.
What has gone on for you?
Well, I tried to fix my sleep schedule this week.
Did it work?
No.
Because of my job and just because of like some busy past couple weeks,
I haven't been able to fall asleep until like three in the morning.
So I was like, you know what?
I'm just going to stay up for a whole day and then just go to bed the next day.
And surely that will fix my sleep schedule.
And I did get a little nap in just so I wasn't like completely exhausted.
But instead I went to bed and then I slept till 2pm the next day.
So that didn't work.
Not fixed.
No.
Except I can't imagine that being good because you would need all that sleep anyway.
Yeah.
And then last night I didn't fall asleep until like three and then I woke up at 7.30.
Wow.
And I just stayed awake.
Well, that's kind of like the rest of us.
Yeah.
We all have to get up so early.
You have the great job schedule where you do not have to get up early for work.
Yeah.
Usually like, I mean, I'm pretty bad at falling asleep, but even three o'clock is bad for me.
Yeah.
Right.
I mean, that's pushing it for me because I'm not a good sleeper either.
I am a, I'm a mid-nighter easily even if I have to wake up early.
Earlier we were talking about bad sleep and I was like, you know what's bad when you
see that it's 11 and you're like, oh, it's still early.
No, that's not normal.
I got plenty of time.
I got to start thinking it's early at eight.
And we've already talked about my weird goblin cleaning habits, which is like, I'm like a
little goblin that comes alive at night and it'll be like one in the morning and I all
of a sudden have a burst of energy and I'm like, I'm going to clean the kitchen.
But I actually think that's the best time.
And then I play like, you know, that like fun medieval tavern playlist and it's like, because
you're closing your tavern, your tavern.
Yeah.
I thought you were going to say, and then you play murder.
She wrote in the background.
Nope.
That's very different.
I mean, that too.
It's either murder.
She wrote or medieval tavern.
Those are the two choices in life and they're both good and they're both excellent.
What's been going on with you?
The last time I chatted with you on our podcast, I was going to a concert with my cousin and
my friend and it was amazing.
We went to, I'm just going to say, we went to Seattle and Tacoma and let me, I mean,
I don't know who has been to Seattle and it's listening, but let me sum up the difference
between Seattle and Tacoma for you.
I mean, there's many reasons and a lot of people are probably like, I know what they
are, but it's 30 minutes to get to Seattle from Tacoma.
The day of the concert, we gave ourselves a lot of time to play because my cousin had
never been there before.
We gave ourselves a lot of time to come home.
It took us two hours to get to Tacoma.
So we were almost late to our concert, but it was amazing.
Yeah.
It was really fun and you are currently wearing a shirt from that concert.
I'm wearing my twice shirt and I've been wearing it a lot.
It has cat hair on it.
I mean, any shirt does.
Any shirt should have.
It was amazing.
So other than that, I've just been like recuperating by not sleeping and working a lot too.
And we also had our fun little Valley of the Dolls watch party.
Yes.
We had a little party, which we didn't know anything about.
We just knew that Sharon Tate was in it.
And we love her.
We love her.
We really respect her.
She had such a sad life, but we're like, you go girl, we love you.
What an insane melodramatic movie.
It was like, yeah, the plot was confusing and there was a lot of loose ends and yeah.
I thought there were actually dolls in it.
I thought maybe dolls was like a term for women.
I thought so too.
No, it's the pills.
It's actually pills.
I didn't know that was a sixties term for pills.
The sixties were wild.
Let's just say.
But yeah, we all dressed up sixties and Sharon Tate was beautiful.
The movie was beautiful.
Sean Aston's mom is there.
Sean Aston of the Goonies.
His mom was there.
She was not at the party, but she was screaming at the top of her lungs and we were like,
what is this movie?
This movie is crazy.
I mean, it was yeah, you're right.
It was beautifully shot like it's like pretty, very aesthetic.
But wow, we're like, who wrote this?
I was like, you know what?
I can see how this didn't do well critically at the time, but is like a cult classic now.
Right.
Because of the beauty of it.
Yeah.
Pretty much.
That's it.
There's no takeaway other than the fact that are like, oh, this is nice.
The end.
The colors are pretty.
The end.
But it was a fun fever dream.
I feel like that was actually what the sixties were.
Yeah.
They're like, this is actually how it felt.
It's how it felt.
In between all of this, what has happened in real life?
The Titanic submersal imploded and beyond that, orcas are coming together to sink yachts,
which is actually our favorite thing in the world.
Yeah.
Orcas are more organized than any humans.
They're more organized.
They are.
I don't even know.
I mean, obviously they talk to each other because they have their own language.
But how do they get messages like across big oceans?
Is it just like a telephone, like a game of telephone, where they're like, hey, meet
us over here.
We're going to sink this ship.
And then by the time it gets to the other group of orcas, they're like, and bring a bag
of chips.
They're like, what?
I don't understand.
It's like real telephone.
It's like they're doing their whale call.
They're like, we're going to take this jerk down, come and take him down with me.
Like, I don't know what the whale version of that would be.
Then the whales like, beef jerky's going down?
I don't understand.
I'm going to go over there and they're like, oh, the jerk, not a jerky.
Yeah.
That was one of my favorite things to play.
Oh, telephone.
It's telephone because I was the one that would dismiss it all up.
Oh, me too.
Right.
I'm like, even as a child, my hearing was not the best.
We're like, she said radishes are her favorite.
And then when it would finally get to the end, we're like, I did that.
I did the radishes.
I'm the radish girl.
But yeah, I really love orcas A. I think we both do.
I once saw orcas in the wild because we live near the ocean and I was so enthralled with
them, but they were there for a very naughty reason.
They were outside where a lot of sea lions go.
So we're like, oh, beautiful.
And they're like, uh-oh.
Oh, this is like Orca Taco Bell.
And so you're like, oh, oh.
But you know what?
Hey, circle of life.
It's just, it's what happens.
And ever since I saw them, I was like, I love them, even though TikTok keeps trying to tell
us that they're like technically serial killers.
Hey.
I'm like, they're animals.
Calm down.
They don't have like a reading and writing system.
Let's not ascribe like sociopathy to animals.
Wow.
You have got some good words today.
I love it.
Thank you.
You're like, these orcas are not Austinian.
If anything, they're Jane Errin.
No.
Bronte-esque.
I feel like they're Jillian Flynn.
They're Jillian Flynn.
But if we were going to make Orcas-
The Orca, the main Orcas, Amy Dunn.
The main Orcas like gone girl Orca.
But if they were going to be like in a, like a regency era, I feel like they're more Bronte
than Austin.
Oh, for sure.
Very depressed and just raging.
Gothic, depressing this Orca.
He fell in love with this other Orca, but he was married.
The Orca he's married to is locked in the attic.
Then she sets the house on fire.
I'm giving away the ending of Jane Errin.
I hope I didn't spoil it for you, but it's been a long time.
It's been like so many years, you guys.
Come on.
Get it together.
And there's so many adaptations.
So.
You just got to get it.
It's good.
It's a good story.
Yeah.
I've only seen the Mio Waskowska version.
I know our friend has very strong feelings about which version is the best.
Yes.
We have a mutual friend who is the most Jane Err elite to live on this side of the Atlantic.
Like she's not living in England.
She lives here with us, but she's like, look, this is how Jane Err needs to be done.
And it's with Ruth Wilson and that other guy, I forget his name.
She's like, look, I am Jane Err coded.
She is.
Yeah.
This is our friend, Kate.
Shout out to Kate.
Kate is Jane Err exemplified.
Yeah.
Both better life decisions.
Better life decisions, but also had a better start in life.
You know, maybe that's the difference.
I mean, I think most of us had a better start in life than Jane Err.
Yeah.
If you had a similar start to life as Jane Err, write us.
Send an email.
We'd like to read about it.
Tell us about your fiance's wife, Locked in the Attic.
And did she try to light you on fire?
Yeah.
It sounds crazy, but it was a book written many years ago and it's considered classic
literature.
Maybe y'all should team up.
Maybe he's the problem.
But he does end up going blind in the end, so he kind of reaps what he sews and then
he's like, I've learned my lesson because I can't see anymore.
He's like, I saw the error of my ways and nothing else.
But yeah.
But yeah, Orca.
Orca's Unite.
We're with him.
I ended up making some stickers.
After we started making our own stickers for the podcast, I just kind of branched out and
was like, what else can I make?
And so I've just been having fun with that.
I know.
I want to get some of your stickers.
I'll just get them and send them to you.
Or just bring them to you.
I'll also be like, just send you random ideas and be like, will you make this a sticker?
Yes.
Actually, to me, that's so fun.
It's kind of like wasting my time, but I'm not wasting my time.
Exactly.
You're doing fun, crafty things.
Because I love wasting my time.
If there's anything I'd love to do.
But at the same time, I love being busy.
So like if I'm wasting my time, I feel guilty.
Then it's like this way I can be wasting my time, not feel guilty.
Yeah.
And you wonder why I'm in therapy.
You know what I really love to do.
I mean, I don't physically love it, but I must because I keep doing it.
I love to waste my time, take forever to do something, wait till the last minute and
then just put myself in crunch time.
Oh, yeah, me too.
Which I do all the time with my research.
It's called, I think that's like our neurodivergent superpower.
Oh, I have an hour left.
Well, here's the greatest thing you've ever heard.
And the people receiving it are like, no, actually, this is pretty bad.
And you're like, well, well, to me, it's amazing.
It's good for the time I did it.
You don't want to know how bad it looked before.
It wasn't even around.
Oh, good times.
Good times.
Good times with a bad brain.
Yes.
Gotta love it.
Is there anything you wanted to add before we jumped into our stories for this time?
I was going to say this week, but we're every other week.
So every time I say this week, I mean this week of this two week time.
This week for the interval.
Yes.
So I'm going first this time.
This is a story that I just, I have to laugh.
I had this ready to go for last week.
Not last week.
I mean, two weeks ago for last time.
And then I changed it last minute because the phony Rockefeller was just too, I mean,
like I kind of got stuck on it and I was like, this is too funny.
I just have to, I just have to do it.
This is something that would have been really timely the last time.
It's still timely now.
It's actually kind of ironic, but I think it's worth telling because it's a survivor story,
but it is the unsinkable woman, Violet Jessup, who was one of the survivors of the Titanic.
And a few other things we will learn.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah.
So Violet Jessup.
My sources for this are the book, Titanic survivor, memoirs of Violet Jessup written
by Violet Jessup and all that's interesting article written by Katie Serena and Encyclopedia
Titanic.
Ah, see, they're like, ah, got you there.
But it's like, yeah, that's exactly what it is.
It's a Titanic encyclopedia, but they're like, we're funny.
This is funny.
This is a good pun.
Okay.
So here we are.
We are on the Titanic.
It's right before midnight on April 14th, 1912.
Put yourself there.
It's very Downton Abbey.
Okay.
I'm closing my eyes.
Close your eyes.
You're there.
There's a lot of dresses and it's beautiful and gilded.
However, our girl, Violet, she is a stewardess.
So she would be like the help of Downton Abbey, but this is Titanic.
So she's a Titanic stewardess and she's settling into her bunk.
She's flipping through some magazines.
She's reading a prayer because she is a very devout Irish Catholic.
And then she starts to drift off to sleep when suddenly a heavy crash jolts her awake.
And this is when chaos erupts.
And we all know this.
We've seen the movie.
Yes.
And if you haven't seen the movie, I'm sure you know, like this is an unsinkable ship.
What is happening?
So however, less than three hours later from this moment, Violet will find herself in a
lifeboat floating atop the freezing North Atlantic, one of 706 survivors, only to watch
as the unsinkable Titanic sinks beneath pitch black waters.
And at this point in her life, she is only 25.
Oh my gosh.
And she has already been victim to another ship crash.
So this is her second one.
So she's kind of probably like, oh boy.
But we will get back to that.
So let's just jump into who Violet is.
So Violet Constance Jessup.
She was born in Bahia, Blanca, Argentina in 1887.
She was the first child of Irish Catholic immigrants who relocated to South America to become sheep
farmers, which just sounds very cute.
It was said that her childhood was plagued by illness, which is pretty common for that
time period.
And this included typhoid and tuberculosis.
And it said the tuberculosis nearly killed her as doctors gave her parents bad news saying
she has just months to live.
But as we learn, Violet has a very strong will.
And it said that her recovery was miraculous.
And the editor of her memoirs, his name was John Max Tone Graham.
He said, quote, it was almost as if her fierce will healed her.
She's like, not today.
She's like, I'm not done.
I'm not done.
She's like, I got to go do some stuff.
OK, so in 1903, Violet's father passes away, and 16-year-old Violet and her family relocate
to England.
And in order to support her family as they had lost their source of income, the mother
of the family, her name is Catherine, she became a ship stewardess for the Royal Mail
Line.
And this is essentially a servant for wealthy passengers.
And the Royal Mail Line crosses the Atlantic.
It doesn't always necessarily mean the North Atlantic, where it's cold.
It can be kind of up and down and all around.
But while she was doing this, Violet attended Convent School.
And so five years go by.
Unfortunately, Violet's mother, she falls ill.
And now Violet, being just 21 years old, is the sole supporter for her, her mother,
and her five younger siblings.
Oh my goodness.
It's a lot.
So because she had only just gone to Convent School, she follows her mother's footsteps
and decides to become a stewardess.
At first, she had trouble finding work on ships as she was considered too young and
too attractive.
Oh, OK.
It said she had gray blue eyes and auburn hair and an Irish accent, like, you know,
the three, the trifecta.
You're too powerful.
Look at your face and you're listening to you.
It was said she had three proposals of marriage over the course of her career and one from
a wealthy first class passenger.
So I don't know why she didn't jump on that.
Maybe he was kind of weird.
Maybe a little sus.
Yeah.
So unfortunately for Violet, she had to make herself look frumpy for her interviews.
But she won them over with her pleasant personality and the fact that she spoke English, Spanish,
and French fluently.
So she was finally able to land this job.
At first, she started with the Royal Mail line like her mother worked for.
She did this for two years.
And by 1910, she joined the White Star Line and was able to sail on the majestic.
And originally, she did not want to work for them because she didn't like the idea of just
sailing in the northern part of the Atlantic because of severe weather conditions.
Like it's very cold.
And she had also heard scary stories of demanding wealthy passengers.
So it's kind of like, no.
But she took the job nevertheless.
So while working for the White Star Line, she worked 17 hours a day.
She was paid two pounds, 10 pence per month, which I looked it up in today's money.
It's only like 200 pounds a month, which is still not.
I mean, that's not very much at all.
Especially working full time like that.
She worked in first class cabins.
She attended to passengers, many and varied needs.
She made beds, brought in breakfast trays, cleaned bathrooms, arranged flowers and ran
errands.
I'm not really sure what kind of errands you would run on a boat.
Yeah, I guess.
I don't know.
They're like, Miss, would you please go out and see if the ocean is still outside?
Please.
I'm like imagining like the shopping centers that are on cruises now.
But I'm like, I don't know.
I literally have no idea.
I've seen pictures of the Titanic before it sank.
And I don't know if the majestic was the same, but it's like beautiful.
But I didn't have shopping.
I don't think.
Yeah.
Maybe like dog grooming.
Maybe like fetching towels.
I don't know.
Drinks.
Changing diapers.
In her memoirs, it was said, quote, that there was no aspect of service that was not
her or her colleagues responsibility.
Sounds a little ominous.
It does.
Yeah.
Sounds like a collicky baby in the middle of the night.
Will you please hold this baby?
I've got to go back to sleep.
Okay.
So by 1910, Violet leaves the majestic for the RMS Olympic, which this is a very big deal.
The Olympic is the first of the three sister ships that are going to be like the glitz
and glamour of the white star line that really show off the like the wealthy elite of if
you are fancy, you will be on one of these ships.
And so this is kind of a big deal.
The Olympic was met with a lot of fanfare and speaking of white star line, I'm just going
to give a little background on them.
So this company started in Liverpool in 1854.
So between 1854 and 1870, they used sailing ships and they were like really beautiful,
like the kind of like Pirates of the Caribbean full mast beautiful.
The first well-known ship for the white star line was called the RMS Taylor.
And sadly for the Taylor, it was known as the first Titanic.
And there's no way to be known as the first.
Like there's no good way to be known for that.
There's yeah.
And this is due to lifeboat issues, major loss of life, maiden voyage.
It ran aground and they were in an area that they couldn't safely depart the ship.
They're like near a lot of rocks.
And unlike the Titanic, however, it had fewer female survivors.
It said three women out of 200 on board survived.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah.
They said they kind of they were it's like a rough estimate because this the ship, the
Taylor was bound for Australia.
And it had a lot of immigrants they weren't all accounted for, but they guessed probably
around 600 died.
Women just like shoving the women out of the way.
No, what they said, because I looked it up and they said, unfortunately, due to female
clothing styles at the time, they were heavy and they sink, which is dreadful.
That would like you can't terrible.
And maybe not even like educated swimmers.
So you're like paddle, paddle, paddle, and then you're like, oh, my skirt is heavier than
heck.
Like I got to help me.
And then you just got to get left there.
So the armistailer was kind of a bummer.
And if you look at the list of the white star ships, so many of them, I guess the nature
of this work is it's like every ship was like scraps 15 years later ran aground, sink, ran
aground, sink.
I mean, it's like they don't survive.
That was like airlines are different nowadays.
Thankfully, it's not like, well, you're you're on here until it crashes.
No ships.
It was like there was just no way to keep a ship alive for very many years because the
ocean be crazy.
Yes.
So by 1870, the white star line started their fancier line.
They had steam ships.
They still had sales, but it was like they're like combining the two.
And this is when they started ending all of the ship names.
Well, like 90% of them in I see.
So like the first one's the oceanic, which was considered the mother of modern liners.
So the I see names are like Albertic, Laurentic, Homeric, ceramic traffic.
Traffic is a real name of what I started.
Which just cracked me up like with somebody going through the dictionary and they're like,
what word can I put an I see at the end to?
That is so funny.
And they're like, you know, this one just runs into a lot of traffic in the ocean.
Right.
And like, and this is the RMS orthopedic.
Could you imagine if the Titanic had a different name?
Like what would James Cameron still want to make this beautiful movie out of the ceramic?
I don't know.
But I think they kind of probably saved the fancier names for these bigger ships.
So it sounds quite as majestic.
No.
Okay.
So by 1933, the White Star Line was hit hard by the Great Depression.
It merged with the Kunard Company.
And then by the 60s, the White Star Line had its very last ship put out of commission.
Actually, Kunard was for just by Carnival, which is funny because it's like carnival
ships are like the ultimate demise of what happened to like the beauty of the Titanic.
And now it's just a ship going to Mexico to over drink.
But it is said that because there are still Kunard ships and they're fancier than the
Carnival ships.
Nothing against Carnival.
I'm sure they're very nice.
But the Kunard ships will fly a White Star flag on April 15th for the Titanic every year,
which is very nice.
And then it is said that to this day, there is still a White Star Line office in Liverpool.
And there's one remaining ship called the Nomadic and it's dry docked in Belfast, Northern
Ireland that you can go see, which would be really, really cool.
Anyway, okay.
So enough about them.
We're going back to the Olympic with Violet.
So she was happy on the Olympic.
It was working out great.
And the Titanic, although being newer, didn't really appeal to her.
And this is fine because she had no reason to go to the Titanic.
She was fine staying where she was.
However, on September 20th, 1911, the Olympic collided with the British cruiser HMS Hawk.
The Olympics suffered a major rip below the waterline and started to sink but managed
to limp home to England.
What she was like.
Oh, thank goodness.
While the Olympic was docked for repairs and despite her reservations about the Titanic,
she was persuaded by her friends who thought it would be, quote, a wonderful experience.
So she dressed in an ankle length brown suit and set out in a horse drawn cab to join the
brand new ship at her birth in Southampton, England.
So she was running herself for the maiden voyage and it was really exciting because it was so
beautiful.
And the Olympic, the Olympic actually had more fanfare, like more was written about it.
I mean, it was like the first of the three sisters.
So it's kind of like the Titanic was like the awkward middle child.
Sure was.
And but people were like, well, okay, I guess we'll like this one too.
And so in her memoirs, she talked a lot about the crew that she met.
One that she greatly admired was Thomas Andrews, who was the ship's designer.
And if you have seen the movie Titanic, he is played by Victor Garber.
And in the movie, he is really kind and smart.
I mean, he's the one that basically told the captain, you can, you have to stop.
We're going to take on too much water.
And then he's the one that told the crew, you're not filling these lifeboats up enough.
Like he was the one that was like, what is happening?
Everything's falling apart.
So Mr. Andrews in real life was just as awesome.
He never failed to stop for a cheerful word.
He listened and spoke with the crew.
If the crew had any complaints, he would be like, okay, let me take care of that.
And he kind of had a sadness about him because he didn't really want to go on this maiden
voyage.
He wanted to stay home.
So it was, it's kind of, it's, it's extra sad because he felt like he had to go down
with the ship.
Yeah.
And the movie you see that he's just kind of waiting for, for his time.
I know.
It's like the saddest and also like most, I don't know, noble part of the movie.
Yes.
I mean, you do feel like that with the captain, but I feel like with the captain, he kind
of resides himself because he's like, I made a terrible mistake.
Yeah.
You're like, yeah, you got to go down buddy, because if you don't, people are going to
be really mad.
Another person she mentions by name is a Scottish violinist, Jock Hume.
And he's one of the violinists that played on the deck for everyone as they were trying
to get into their life boats, which is just like, so these are like amazing men that she's
like, she did not mention very many by name.
And she's like, here are two men that were awesome.
And yeah, it's, it's very touching.
She did mention, however, by name, John Jacob Astor, the fourth, who was one of the richest
men in the world.
He and his pregnant wife were on board.
Her name was Madeline Force Astor.
And their marriage caused a sensation because in 1911, it was pretty unheard of to have
a wife be pregnant before you get married.
Yeah.
And then so they get married, she's pregnant.
He's 30 years older than her.
Oh, yeah.
So it's just like, whoa.
But I guess they kind of like, if you're rich, you can do what you want.
So Jessup did not get a favorable impression of Madeline.
She said, quote, instead of a radiant woman of my imagination, I saw a quiet, pale, sad-faced,
dull young woman arriving listlessly on the arm of her husband.
Wow.
She burned her to filth.
Yeah.
She's like, girl, good thing you got money.
Jessup also mentioned a few other guests but did not name them, maybe just because they
probably drowned and she's giving them a little dignity.
But she did say there were a few rich, demanding passengers, one that arrived with many and
strange needs along with, quote, never ending boxes of flowers.
Presumably, thank you offerings to march your departure.
And then another woman who insisted that the furniture in her luxurious room be changed
immediately and according to Jessup, spent her happiest moments watching the agonizing
struggles of a couple of stewards tackling the job.
So rich people haven't changed.
Literally everyone in customer service is groaning.
They're like, what do you mean you don't have this in pink?
Can you look in the back, ma'am?
This is the Titanic.
Can I speak to your manager?
Yeah.
You mean the captain?
Yeah.
So despite all this, she still loved her job.
I mean, it was beautiful.
If you have a chance, look at the pictures of the Titanic.
It is some of the prettiest architecture you've ever seen, which is why it's so sad that it
just went away.
In the evening when she finally had her free time, she took time to have some fresh air
on the deck every evening, which was nice.
That's not welcoming.
Time to herself, yeah, walking along the deck.
However, that fourth night, which was the night where they hit the iceberg, she said,
quote, if the sun did fail to shine so brightly on the fourth day out, and if the little cold
nip crept into the air as evening set in, it only served to emphasize the warmth and
luxurious within.
So the fourth day was the coldest.
And it's like, yeah, that was when it was the worst too.
It's kind of like driving in bad weather.
Yeah.
Yeah, you might slip and crash into a tree, or you might slip and fall and crash into
an iceberg.
Yeah.
Which is worse.
So Violet is back in her bunk.
She's settling down.
She's reading her prayer, which she said was a strangely worded prayer.
She also made her roommate read it because she's Catholic.
And it was a prayer that was supposed to protect her from water.
And she was a devout Catholic, so she carried her rosary in her apron and believed strongly
in the power of prayer, which I mean, it's like, if that helped her, that's great.
I mean, that probably helped ease her mind.
So by the time she was finished with all of her nightly duties, she was comfortably drowsy,
not quite asleep, but then she heard, quote, a low, rending, crunching, ripping sound.
At first she assumed it was a drill because the unseekable Titanic could not possibly
be in danger, obviously.
Of course not.
She was ordered on deck and helped passengers adjust their lifeboats.
She reminded them to dress warmly, take blankets, and pack up their valuables.
And then she moved room to room, promising those that it was merely a precautionary measure
as she herself could not really comprehend the cat, like the catastrophe that was looming.
She said, quote, sometime after a ship's officer ordered us onto a boat, which was a boat 16,
first to show some women that it was safe.
As the boat was being lowered, the officer called, here, Miss Jessup, look after this
baby.
And a bundle was dropped into my lap.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah.
The boat was lowered into the ocean with a bone cracking thud, and the baby started to
cry.
So she held the baby while watching the Titanic's bow sink further into the water and then watched
it snap into.
I couldn't even imagine watching this happen.
You're literally holding a crying baby.
You have no idea who's baby this is.
I know.
I'm like, literally just watching the movie is upsetting enough.
Upsetting enough.
But being like literally just looking up from the water and just seeing that destruction.
And you're seeing people fall.
You're seeing people screaming.
Yeah.
I mean, the chaos that was before her eyes.
I mean, well, she's like, now I have to take care of this baby.
Yeah, this random baby.
Right.
So now she's stranded upon the expanse of the Atlantic.
And if you think about it, I mean, the Atlantic is huge.
It's cold.
There's no one else around.
This giant boat, it's been four days since you've been on it.
There's no land.
You're stuck on this little boat and you have a baby.
So she was afraid that this baby was going to die in her arms, which I don't know if
she was like, she was like mentally preparing herself for that.
But she had an extra blanket with her.
So she just like wrapped it up as best as she could.
And she said it fell asleep, which is sweet.
I did see a TikTok recently that talked about how mostly women were the survivors and they
were the ones that reported the Titanic broken half and nobody believed them because they
were women saying it.
Oh, of course.
Until a man came forward and was like, yes, it broke in half.
And they're like, you guys had broken half and all these women were like, are you kidding
me?
All of those women are just like screaming, crying, pulling out there.
Screaming, crying, throwing up, punching the closest guy in the face.
Yeah.
Some random guy was like, hey, you guys, did you hear the Titanic broken half?
And they're like, okay, here's the sound of reason this man said it broken half.
Yeah, it's men and the audacity.
Truly.
Okay.
So after eight hours, Violet and the others are picked up by the Carpathia.
And she said, quote, I was still clutching the baby against my hardcore life belt when
a woman leapt at me and grabbed the baby and rushed off with it.
It appeared she put the baby down on the deck of the Titanic while she went off to fetch
something when she came back, the baby had gone.
I was too frozen a numb to think it's strange.
This woman had not stopped to say thank you, which I'm like, I understand it from both
sides.
Yeah.
I can't even imagine what that woman was going through that the fact that her baby was
just gone.
She probably was just like sick to her stomach.
Yeah.
But this other woman was like, hello.
I'm like, I literally held this baby in my arms for eight hours.
Can you at least?
She's like, I probably saved your baby's life.
I saved your baby's life.
You're welcome.
So it is safe to say Violet was not eager to return to a life at sea.
Why?
She probably went back to England and she was probably like, goodbye, everyone.
I'll remember you all in therapy.
But however, she could not find a job elsewhere that paid as well.
It's what she knew.
She needed to work and life was hard.
So she went back to the ocean.
So she was now stationed on the Britannic, the third of the three sister ships.
She was probably like third time's the charm, right?
Everyone.
She looks at the camera like Jim from the office.
This is the one.
I have a good feeling about this.
So while she is on the Britannic, World War One breaks out and the beautiful Britannic
is changed to a hospital ship and now she is no longer a stewardess.
She is a nurse.
They're like, new job for you.
New job for you.
It's funny in this day and age, I mean, you have to do so much schooling to be a nurse.
But back then they're like, Hey, if you put on this hat, you're now a nurse.
You're alive.
You can be a nurse.
See, can you like wrap this guy's broken arm?
That looks fine.
I'm sure it's fine.
She's like, you just tie it with the bow.
It's fine.
So she's on the Britannic.
She's a nurse.
She's trying her best and in November 1916, so it's on the 21st of November, the Britannic
hits a floating German mine.
And it begins to sink rapidly into the agency.
I'm sure at this point she's like, you know what?
I'm done with you people.
She's like, who wants me dead?
Who wants me dead?
But she's also like, not today because she's, she's violent and she has a strong will.
She's tough.
Mm hmm.
Again, she's ordered to the lifeboats and she was like, wait a minute and she races
back to her cabin to gather a few personal items, including her prayer book because that's
important.
And one in particular that was also important.
She said in her memoir that she recalled the words of a friend, quote, never undertake
another disaster without first making sure of your toothbrush.
End quote.
Of all the things that you were going to say, I wouldn't have said.
Prayer book, got it.
Toothbrush?
I put 10 out of 10 dentists agree.
That elusive 10th dentist, you know, it's usually like nine out of 10 dentists.
All the dentists are like, that girl's got it going on.
They're all like, you know what, you may be last at sea, but you can use a toothbrush.
But you have some amazing white teeth.
And the reason why she took this advice to heart is because she said in her memoir, there
has always been much fun at her expense after the Titanic because she complained of her
inability to get a toothbrush, which is actually really sad because I imagine she's probably
like, like, you know, that feeling of like, oh, my, I would really love to brush my teeth.
Like the world just fell down around me.
Can at least get my teeth cleaned.
Yeah.
It's like the one tiny thing that's nagging you when like the most traumatic thing.
Yeah.
Like if I could just clean my teeth.
So you know, here she is.
She's like, I got it.
So toothbrush, prayer book and hand.
She was disembarking on a lifeboat with some of her shipmates as they watched in horror
as the Britannics propellers were still moving.
So if you remember the Titanic, they had the wherewithal to stop the ship.
Like they literally were like, we're dead in the water.
Let's turn off the engines.
Yeah.
The Britannic did not have the time because they hit a mine.
The propellers are sucking in passengers and boats alike with their blades.
She said she watched as the water just turned red.
No.
Yeah.
And despite all of her years on the ocean, she still did not know how to swim.
Girl.
I mean, she's like, hey, I got to take care of a family.
I've got to think about how to brush my teeth when I can't.
She's like, I literally just got back from my last disaster.
Please.
I don't have time for hobbies.
So she said she clutched her life belt and jumped overboard.
And when she surfaced, her head hit the ship's keel.
And she said her brain shook like a solid body and a bottle of liquid.
And so she was able to grab a spare life belt that was floating by and hang on until
one of the safe lifeboats of the Britannic picked her up.
So yet again, she survived a white stern line maritime disaster.
And she was fine, but it was said her blow to the skull would cause headaches for years
to come.
Yeah, I bet.
So it was just like the one thing.
Me, at least she didn't get chopped up by the propeller.
Right.
She's like, on one hand, I would rather take this headache over that.
So despite her tumultuous experiences in the ocean, she continued to work in passenger
service for large ships.
She rejoined the white star line after the war and then subsequently signed on to a new
company called the Red Star Line, which I looked it up and they are not the same company.
Could you imagine them being like, I'm a disgruntled worker.
I'm going to start my own line and I am now the Red Star Line.
Take that.
The Red Star Line sent Jessup around the world on five cruises.
She actually had much better time on the Red Star Line.
She was very good.
It was said in her 30s that she had a brief and disastrous marriage and she never gave
the name of her husband, which has long eluded researchers because they have never been able
to find his name and she's like, don't look for it.
I don't want to talk about him.
And it was said they had no children.
So after a period of working various clerical, clerical jobs on shore for shipping companies,
she returned to sea for two more years on the Royal Mail line's voyages to South America.
Finally by 1950 at the age of 63, she retired and moved to the countryside and she retired
to a 16th century thatched cottage in great Asheville, Suffolk, which is just lovely.
That sounds nice.
She's probably like kissing the ground every day.
I want to be a landmark.
Yeah, she said that she was happy to spend her last years firmly planted on land.
I bet.
She filled her home with mementos of her 42 years at sea and looked after a gaggle of
hens.
I don't know if gaggle is the right term, but and she sold the eggs for extra income
and then she tended and cultivated a beautiful garden.
That sounds so happy.
She died of congestive heart failure at the age of 84 in 1971.
Wow.
Just actually not that long ago.
And that is the story of the unsinkable violet jessup.
That was the survivor of the three sister ships who are out to get her mega survivor.
Mega survivor.
She's like, Hey, have you ever been in a shipwreck because I have something to tell you.
I feel like probably after so many shipwrecks, she probably kept going and is like, Hey,
I've literally been through the worst.
Like, what is it going to happen a fourth time?
She's like, clearly not.
And then she's like, I probably shouldn't risk it.
But it didn't.
No, that's good.
I mean, unless it was something little, I didn't ever find it mentioned.
So she's like, after three times, you're done.
If you survive, it's like being a bridesmaid.
She's like, have you done it three times?
Never a bride.
No, three strikes.
You're up.
Oh man.
Yeah.
It was just, what a cool lady.
She just sounded so like level headed all the time.
Like the fact that she's like, and now there's a baby and now I can't find my toothbrush.
She's like, you know what?
I'll just take care of this baby and I'll make sure I don't get sucked into this turbine.
Yep.
Yeah.
And she, she truly is a hero because not only that, she's also working 17 hour days.
I'm like, I could never.
Yeah.
Girl, I could never.
With like the richest people.
The richest, most demanding, snooty-est people.
Oh gosh.
Yeah, no.
The, what was his name?
Billy Zane.
The Billy Zanes of the world.
Yes.
I literally.
I just watched the latter half of the Titanic a few days ago to kind of like prepare myself
for this.
And I'm like, this is so upsetting.
No matter how many times you watch it, it's probably so similar to how it was.
And it might have even been worse.
Like I know there's, there's scenes that were films that they didn't add because it was too
sad.
Like the talks and the water.
But she's just like, not only that, but I'm, I'm going to do this and go back to the ocean.
Seriously.
I hope she did learn to swim eventually.
That would be.
That would be too.
That would be like a nice cherry on top.
It's like, uh, risky and a little too much.
Yeah.
She's like my one greatest enemy, the ocean.
Will it get me?
But also my greatest love.
My greatest love.
Pretty much.
Well, it was like a love-hate relationship.
That's true.
All right.
Well, let's take a break before I do mine.
One, two, three.
Okay.
Does that work?
Is it, is it good?
Okay.
We're like, how do we do this?
Okay.
So now it is my turn.
It's my turn.
And this week I actually am going to do a happy and uplifting story.
That's happy.
I kind of feel like mine was a little uplifting.
It was because she survived all the things.
She survived.
I mean, there was a little bit of death, but I'm glad that yours is going to be as uplifting
is.
As can be.
As your face says.
Your face is telling me uplifting.
Good.
Okay, so the sources for my story are, oh, you know what?
Actually, I should probably say what it is first.
So the story is about Team Hoyt, the story of Dick Hoyt and his son Rick Hoyt.
And my sources were Dick and Rick.
Oh my gosh, that's so cute.
My sources were Wikipedia, Your History, Your Story podcast that has an interview with
Rick Hoyt and his brother Russ.
Triathlon magazine in the article is by Kevin McCannon and then an article from Triathlon
Inspires.
Okay, so this story is about a father son duo who completed many athletic competitions,
including the Boston Marathon and Iron Man triathlons.
But there is something extra special about this father son duo.
So Rick Hoyt was born January 10th, 1962 to Dick and Judy Hoyt.
And he was born with the umbilical cord wrapped around his neck, which causes a block of oxygen
flow.
And then he was diagnosed with cerebral palsy.
Did I say that right?
Cerebral palsy?
I think it's good either way.
Okay.
I have no idea.
Um, and doctors encouraged Rick's parents to put him in a facility saying that he would
be nothing more than a vegetable.
What year was this again?
This was 1962.
Isn't it sad that the 60s, while being not that long ago, they also seemed so archaic
with medicine?
They really do, with medicine.
Medicine.
Yeah.
And for Rick, he had awesome parents who were like, no, that is unacceptable.
We are going to do everything we can to give Rick a normal life.
And his cerebral palsy gave him little control over his limbs or his tongue.
So he was unable to move or speak well, but he had no brain damage.
And one of the things that his parents held on to when he was born was that his eyes would
follow them around the room so they could see that, you know, there was something going
on in there.
So Rick's mother, Judy, spent hours a day teaching Rick the alphabet and posting signs
on every object in the house to help him to learn like the tactile alphabet.
And at age 11, he was fitted with a computer that enabled him to communicate.
And it was clear when he was able to communicate with them that Rick was pretty intelligent.
And he was born and raised in Massachusetts, although they moved around quite a bit due
to his father, Dick's military career.
Rick had two younger brothers, Russ and Rob.
And his parents were so cute.
Dick and Judy were high school sweethearts.
And she was a cheerleader and he was captain of the football team.
Oh my gosh.
And it was said in their yearbook that they were like coffee and tea.
You wouldn't often find one without the other.
Oh, that's cute.
And when they asked Dick what the best part of high school was, he said going with Judy.
Oh.
So they're super cute.
They're like proof that true love exists.
I know.
And that good people exist.
I know.
And good parents.
And before his military career, Dick was a mason and he built brick chimneys.
And then he later joined the Army National Guard and transferred to the International
Guard and hoped to become a pilot.
But he was past the age requirement.
So he had a long military career and he became the fitness officer at the base, which is
very fitting for the rest of the story.
And so Rick initially got interested in racing when he heard about a race that would benefit
a lacrosse player at his school who had become paralyzed.
His, I believe it was his PE teacher said that he should ask his family to participate
in the race.
And Rick was very excited about the thought of benefiting another student.
And so Dick would run while pushing Rick in a wheelchair.
However, Dick was not an athlete.
I mean, no, sorry.
Dick wasn't an athlete.
He was the fitness person.
No, we are not an athlete in this house.
No, we can't be.
But we're not.
But he was not a natural runner or a swimmer.
He would run a mile or two, but never got much longer than that.
And in high school, when he was swimming, he was called the rock because he would sink
when he tried to swim.
Cause he was like a pretty, like a sturdy stout guy.
They probably had a lot of muscle.
Yeah.
But he was determined to train and even taught himself how to swim and to train for running.
When Rick was in school, Dick would run pushing a bag of cement in a wheelchair.
Wow.
And so, a new training tip for me.
I'm like, try the bag of cement.
Right.
And then presumably you won't push someone in a wheelchair.
So it'll be lighter when you do it yourself.
Oh, that's true.
Yeah.
So Dick and Rick would do the race.
Rick would sit in the wheelchair and Dick would push him along the course.
Dick weighed 180 pounds and when they would do triathlons, they would have to do, you
know, biking, swimming, running.
Right.
So Dick already weighed 180 pounds.
The bike weighed about 70 and Rick weighed 100 pounds totaling 350 pounds for Dick to
carry.
Oh my gosh.
200 pounds more than the average triathlete on their bike.
And at first, when they decided to start racing, people told them no.
They were worried about how it would go with Rick in the wheelchair.
Well, they worried about the liability for Rick.
I think probably partly the liability, but also you have to qualify first to participate
in the Boston Marathon.
Oh, I see.
And so the first time they tried to run the Boston Marathon, they were told no.
So they went to a Marine Corps Marathon and ran a two hour and 40 minute marathon.
And then they were able to qualify for the Boston Marathon under Rick's age, which made
it even harder for Rick, for Dick because he couldn't qualify under his age.
It was under his son's age.
So it was like even more difficult parameters.
Because he had young people around him.
His son was 20.
Right.
Yeah.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah.
And then Dick was approached by the, not the owner, the organizer of the Boston Marathon
and told that he would be a great triathlete, but he said he would only do it if he could
do it with Rick.
And initially they said no, but they really wanted him to be able to do the triathlon.
And real quick, sorry.
Is this at in the 70s or 80s?
Is the 70s.
Okay.
Is when they first started.
When they first started.
Okay.
And so for the swimming portion, they got a boat that he could pull Rick in while he
was swimming.
Oh my gosh.
And then they got a modified back that, oh my gosh, a modified bike that would be able
to carry Rick.
And there's the motto of team hoit, which is what they refer to them and their family,
yes we can because they were told no many times.
So they always said yes we can.
So Dick decided that this was going to be something that they would keep doing because
Rick said that when they were racing, he felt like his disability wasn't there.
He said he just felt normal.
So his father was motivated to keep doing races to keep Rick having this feeling of feeling
normal and feeling like other kids.
So altogether they did 1130 different events.
They ran the Boston marathon 32 consecutive years and completed seven Ironman triathlons.
They completed the Ironman championship and went to Hawaii, many 5Ks and triathlons, Ironman
Germany, Ironman Japan, etc.
They just were crushing all of the competitions.
Oh my gosh.
And for those who don't know, which I certainly didn't know before this, the Ironman competitions
consist of a 2.4 mile swim, 112 mile bike ride and a 26.2 mile run.
And you're doing this with two people instead of one.
You're doing this with two people.
I can't do any of those with just by myself.
I feel like Dick Hoyt is like my fitness goal for the rest of my life.
I'm like are you an Avenger?
He's like don't look too closely at me because I'm actually Captain America.
He's like actually I'm cooler than them because I'm not destroying cities.
I'm helping myself.
That's true.
I know.
Would an Avenger help their son run a triathlon?
I mean they probably would but they would probably cause some chaos in the meantime.
Okay so going back to their family, the family was very supportive of Rick and of Dick of
course.
They were always there with them for all of the races and even as a child Rick's family
always made sure that he was treated like the other children and always included.
His brothers were very supportive of him.
They did everything together and if someone wasn't supportive of Rick then his brothers
would not hang out with them because wherever their brother went they went.
I love that so much.
I know it's so sweet and they would take him swimming during family vacations and sledding.
Their brothers told the story on the podcast I listened to of when they would go swimming
to the lake.
It would be Rick and his two younger brothers would take him to the lake while the parents
were setting up and one of them would drop him in and then wait a couple seconds and
then the other one would come in, swim and pick him up and standards by would be freaking
out thinking they're abusing their kid or drowning this disabled kid but Rick was having
the time of his life and he would just be cracking up when they would pull him up out
of the water.
So there's acting like brothers with each other which is what you're supposed to do.
And then, gosh sorry, I'm so edgy today.
Don't worry I'll edit all of this out.
It's probably allergies.
I know I think allergies and something bit me.
Those biters.
Beep boop bop.
Beep.
Why?
I can't.
I find.
If you're, bear don't say anything for a second.
Hello.
Oh yeah it does pick me up.
The microphone picks me up.
Only a little bit though.
Only a little bit.
Okay good.
Only a little bit.
Okay.
So back to the racing.
So Rick's brothers and mother helped with all of their races and they were kind of like
his pit crew making sure that the boat was inflated for Rick, holding the bike while Rick
was transferred and when they went on long races and would travel to different states
they would stay home and prepare meals to make sure that they were well fed and well
hydrated and they had a bike specifically modified so that Rick could be sitting in the
front and his father could reach around and squirt water in his mouth during the race to
make sure that he was hydrated.
Oh cute.
But even though he wasn't running, racing was actually quite hard on Rick's body because
he was at the front of the bike, at the front of the wheelchair when his father's running
or biking and so he is breaking the wind for his father and then the sun is beating down
on him and his body would spasm during the race but they made sure that he was well taken
care of during the races and he enjoyed it immensely.
And they also highlight that in a lot of this their mother sometimes gets lost in the shuffle.
You know a lot of people talk about Rick and his father but his mother did so much for
Rick she became an advocate for Rick and she got the first ever public education law in
Massachusetts for students with disabilities.
She later went back to school and got her master's in human services and created a summer
camp for children with and without disabilities and she worked in human services it sounds
like for the rest of her life and helped other children with disabilities get the access
that they needed.
Rick recounted a couple of the races that stuck in his mind, one of them stuck in his mind
for a bad reason because it was during the Boston Marathon bombings him and his father
were running the race and they were told that they had to stop and they knew something
had happened but they were worried because his brother and his children and his wife
were at the end of the finish line waiting for them and so they had to wait to find out
if they were okay but thankfully all of his family was unharmed and he also recounts another
race in Hawaii where they were finishing the race when it was midnight and it was dark out
and there was a huge crowd of people and everyone was cheering for them as him and his father
crossed the finish line and his mother and his brothers were spraying them all over with
champagne.
Oh that's really happy.
Which that just sounds like the happiest scene in the world to me just being out on
a hot night in Hawaii and just getting sprayed down with champagne.
Everyone's happy for you.
Yeah it sounds so happy.
That's a good memory.
It is.
And in 2005 after they had gotten notoriety and support the Hoyts created the Hoyt Foundation
to help others with disabilities take part in athletic pursuits.
They promote inclusion and raise disability awareness.
Sadly Dick Hoyt passed away March 17th, 2021 and after Dick passed away three of his grandsons
Cameron Ryan and Troy completed the Boston Marathon in honor of their grandfather's legacy
and former Bruins star Zeno Chara also raced for Team Hoyt as their family were huge Bruins
fans.
And then Rick actually just passed away on May 22nd, 2023.
Oh wow that wasn't that long ago that was like a month ago.
I know.
Yeah it was very recently.
But their family has continued with their legacy of Team Hoyt Foundation and set up
a race just about a week after Rick passed away.
They had a race in his memory and there is a bronze statue of the two of them near the
start of the Boston Marathon in Hopkinson.
And that is the story of Dick and Rick Hoyt.
Oh my gosh thank you so much for sharing that.
I remember you sending me a TikTok about them and you're like this is making me cry.
But it's like the sweetest, goodest story.
Yeah I think it was like right after he had passed away someone put together like a compilation
of him and his father and their races over the years and I think I vaguely heard of them
before but I had never really looked into it and just like seeing the footage of how
sweet they were and like how hard his father worked to get him through these races just
made me cry.
And then when I listened to the podcast and heard how supportive the rest of his family
was, I was like this is just the most wonderful heartwarming story and I feel like everyone
should know it.
Yes that's, yeah I don't think I have ever heard it.
Yeah I'm like I don't know how I heard of it before but it sounded somewhat familiar.
From your Marathon days.
Oh yes you know me and my marathons.
But I also like on the podcast I listened to it was probably not too long before Rick
passed away him and his brother Russ were on a podcast talking about their family and
Rick had pre-recorded his answers to the questions typing out his answers but they said that
a lot of people have written them and their family saying that him and his father have
inspired them to do more with their lives like get back their zest for life or just
reach goals that they didn't think that they could reach because they're so inspiring and
I got pretty inspired too.
I'm like sitting here thinking could I do something maybe I could.
I have really no excuses at all.
I do have like some fitness goals so I'm like you know what may Team Hoyt inspire us and
may we say yes we can.
Yes we can.
When someone says no you can't and I'll be like actually I have something to tell you.
Yes I can.
I'm like to be fair usually it's me telling me no you can't.
I'm my worst enemy.
You just have to say to each other yes you can.
I'm like what would Dick say to you.
What would Rick say to you.
Yeah very true.
I'd be like our name's Rhyme and that is also not the only cutest thing about us.
I mean I do like athleticism like I like playing sports.
I'm not the greatest athlete but I don't know if I could ever attain the greatness that
is pushing someone in a wheelchair while running and biking and swimming.
Yeah I there is something about like that like military type dedication and physicality
like my grandpa he wasn't like a marathon or anything like that but he was in the military
and he did have just like a crazy strength like even though he wasn't like super athletic
he was just crazy strong.
It's funny that same with my grandpa he was also he was in the Navy it's like they teach
those guys how to do stuff.
They have they do have their problems.
But if anything they learn how to organize and do things.
They're definitely very strong.
They're strong people.
Yeah that's the takeaway.
I'm like I am not a runner but I would be interested in like learning how to swim more
efficiently.
Right.
I would too.
I'd like to swim in your pool.
I know in fact.
It was closed this week for painting so I didn't get to swim in it.
Which is sad because today was an especially hot day.
You know like we're going to close it on the hottest week.
I'm so sorry.
Like but why.
But yes I would love to have some of that team white energy and learn how to swim.
I know how to swim but not like you know the full on backstrokes and stuff.
Yeah same like I'm a pretty strong swimmer but it's kind of like a chaotic swim like
I'll get there swim.
Yeah I'm like I would definitely survive if I had to in water but it would not be elegant.
No same.
And I have done I've done two.
I've done more than two.
I've done two half marathons and after my second one I was like that's it.
I'm not going to run a marathon anymore.
Even a half people will just like straight up be like here's a full marathon I'm going
to run it.
I can't I'm a short distance runner not a long distance runner.
I've only done five K's.
I this body was not built for running.
But I mean hey even a five K's impressive so yeah so don't discount yourself.
I think one time I did do slightly longer than a five K because it was like there was
two separate courses on the race and me and my friend really had to use the bathroom before
the race so we like went and we're like oh we'll just go use the bathroom then we come
back and the guy was like where have you guys been the race started and so we ended up going
a different course and so we ended up doing the longer course.
Oh wow.
Yeah so I don't remember how long it was but it was slightly longer.
Significantly longer.
Yeah.
Longer than three miles probably.
Probably yeah.
Well now I feel pretty jazzed.
I'm like this is good.
This is a good episode.
Yes we can survive disasters and we can overcome adversity.
Look at us.
We're doing it.
We are.
We're overcoming a lot of things and this is our eighth episode which is just wild to
think about that in two episodes from now it'll be ten episodes.
It's like a mini milestone.
It is.
That'll be exciting.
It'll be so exciting.
I'm like what are we going to do?
How far can we go?
I don't know.
Can we make it to 20?
Yeah.
Let's do it.
We'll take it to a million.
Whoa.
Whoa I don't know about that.
I thought when you said what are we going to do I thought you meant for the tenth episode
and I was like get some cake.
Okay.
Well like speaking of working out I would like to get some cake.
Well you got to reward yourself too.
Yeah.
I'm like I love me some cake.
And here comes the time where we need to end our podcast.
Yeah.
Oh wait we need to do a quick little promo.
Oh we do have a promo.
I'm glad you remembered.
Yes I was like I feel like I'm forgetting something.
I'm forgetting something.
I forgot a promo code that's so exciting.
What a fun thing.
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Yeah.
Is there anything you wanted to add before we wrap this up?
Um, I don't think so.
That was the only thing on my mind.
Yeah.
I'm glad you said that because I was there was something nagging the back of my brain
like there is something but you said it.
Thank you.
Way to go you.
I did it this time.
You did it this time.
Well, well on that note, uh, I'm, I'm Drew.
And I'm Olivia.
We're starting over and we're like and hello but also goodbye.
Um, but yeah, be careful on any kind of big large body of water.
The ocean is going to get you.
If you're not careful, the ocean is here to remind us to stay humble.
Don't get cocky.
Yeah.
If anyone tries to tell you no, you can't to your dreams, just say yes, we can.
Yes, we can.
Unless those dreams are murder.
That is my caveat.
Yeah.
Do not murder anyone, but also learn how to swim.
Yeah.
Important.
I mean, swimming is important in both of our stories.
So very much so.
Just, you know, if nothing else, a little doggy paddle might save you.
Right.
Actually, one of my favorite things is finding the correlation between both of our stories
because it's like, Hey, and usually it's something as simple as, Hey, people were
in water, but still it's fun.
It is fun.
Yeah.
Um, but other than that, I hope you guys stay healthy and be good and look out for each
other and take care of your brain.
Yeah.
And, uh, we love you.
We love you.
Good night.
Good, good bite.
Yeah.