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We are the three first human beings to land on the moon.

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But if you study body language, you can see they are so sad, they're disturbed,

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they're distraught, they are told to say certain things, but they are not supposed to say.

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So that was a very mind-boggling thing to see because it's historical.

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So they should be over the moon.

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Should be over the moon.

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I mean, entirely intended.

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Yeah, man, I saw Kentucky Fried Chicken right up on the moon, man.

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You know, things like that, something that's exciting.

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Welcome back, everyone.

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We are still here.

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You watched this last week.

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You know, you're watching this week.

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We're going to continue with part two of our stories about ETs and UAPs and UFOs and abductions

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and a probe going up somewhere that you shouldn't go up.

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And we're back with the Chris Hansen conversation and still with me in studio,

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I've got Ignatius Bong and affectionately known once again as Bong.

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Hello, everybody. How are you?

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Thanks for just sticking around.

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My goodness me.

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I just got a probe up my...

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Have a vada, man.

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Helps up with a probe in your...

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Okay.

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I mean, you can say it, man.

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Don't worry about it.

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Since we're on the topic of probes and people have been probed, right?

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This is what you're going to be talking about.

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What was it you said?

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The abduction of the 411?

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Oh, yes.

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Okay. Following up on last week's discussion,

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before we begin, I think maybe a lot of you were sort of lost,

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could be lost in the amount of information we gave you.

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It'd be great if you're interested in these topics.

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Oops, the mic is falling off.

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Let me just readjust.

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Oh, that one must have been probed too.

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Yeah, that must have been probed.

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Sorry about that.

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Yeah. So it's best to maybe read on a lot more.

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You can go online, just search, or go YouTube research.

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You can see all the full backstory so you understand them better.

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Okay. So the missing 411, it's a new case brought up by a police officer in America.

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He's an investigator.

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His name is David Poulidis.

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P-A-U-L-I-D-E-S, Poulidis.

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So what happened was he was asked to investigate cold cases.

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That means he's an investigator.

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People get missing in the US parks, national parks like Yosemite, et cetera.

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If you have been to the US and if you've been through all the nature reserves,

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a park is really huge.

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It's like the size is really big.

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It's very big, bigger than Singapore, some of them.

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I think most of them are bigger than Singapore.

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So it's basically what they call reserve that you cannot touch.

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You cannot do anything, but you can just visit.

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So some things like the Grand Canyon is an example.

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Right, Yosemite.

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And Yosemite National Park.

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People go in there and they are lost.

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They get missing.

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Search and rescue missions go into the places where they were reported lost.

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They can't find them.

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And they can't find them after two weeks or three weeks of searching.

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So they have to stop because, I mean, as a human being,

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if you are not found, you're presumed dead because you're in the wilderness.

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either dead or alive, at a place where they're not supposed to be.

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That means a few kilometers up a mountain,

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a few kilometers out from the range of the search.

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There is no way this person...

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It's just too broad, too huge to find a missing person.

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A missing person.

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So when I say missing person, most people will think, oh, adults or teenagers.

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No, I'm talking about even toddlers, a three-year-old, four-year-old toddler.

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Right, so they get lost in the park.

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What happened is that how they are lost is very simple.

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they turn and do something on the whatever barbecue table for one minute or two minutes.

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They turn around, the child is missing.

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That's what they call the missing case.

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It suddenly just disappears.

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After many searches and all that, they find the child.

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They find the child alive, but many weeks later, on top of a mountain.

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That means like, I don't know the truth, not many weeks, maybe a few days later,

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the child is on top of a mountain.

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And child is fine?

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Child is fine.

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But how did the child climb up the mountain?

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Well, that's one, but how they survive for days out there in the wilderness.

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So there are many cases like this of disappearances when they're not supposed to disappear.

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Yeah, but this David Paulitis, this guy, this ex-police officer, is he an advocate for,

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you know, anything that's extraterrestrial?

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Or was he just a neutral guy just going out to discover the facts about how people got missing?

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Yeah, he's neutral.

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Neutral? Yeah, he was neutral for many years.

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Then because he says, I'm a police officer, I'm paid to investigate.

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I do not have any, do not engage me into any of this UFO alien abduction, big foot kind of thing.

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Although he does have an interest in big food in America, but he separates them totally.

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And he would just give you the fact that this is what happened.

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This person disappeared.

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The person who disappears, most of them are very old or they have some kind of disability.

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Right? They are near water or near rock formations.

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Okay. They find this.

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And then he has actually devised a chart to showcase where they are lost.

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They are found sometimes without shoes, but they are found sometimes in water, but the socks is clean,

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as white as shit.

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That means somehow this person was not treading on the ground.

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They were just lifted up, disappeared, and then they found a dead body, something like that.

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So it's a very interesting case.

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So it's a very interesting case to see because I think by the virtual fact that he does not

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put pinpoint any cause of it.

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So he just gives you the fact and that is very interesting.

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So he has published a few books on this.

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He started out with 411 cases.

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the missing 411, the hunted, and the new one is missing something, the UFO connection or something like that.

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Yeah, but so basically it cannot be some child predators or child predators who abducted these kids

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because these kids were found alive and well and they were clean and all that.

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Yeah, some are found alive, some were never found.

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And then old people disappeared, never found.

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No body, no traces.

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Even the dogs who can sniff, what do you call them?

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The sniffer dogs.

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The sniffer dogs.

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So these cases happened a lot in American parks.

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But what happened is that these investigators, they knew something happened that's very strange,

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but they never brought it up.

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Again, same thing because they were just volunteers on the search and rescue.

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So when he went to talk to them, he realized that there was an issue.

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But this issue is being hushed up.

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It's a natural mystery.

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He does not know why they disappear.

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So he made what you call that, these studies in America, in Canada and in Australia.

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So in Australia, they have a lot of cases like that where they just vanish.

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Yeah, in Australia.

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So again, since we're back on the ET thing, so another group of people claim,

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oh, they're all abducted by aliens and they disappear and they're never found.

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Yeah, so that's one theory because we're on the topic of aliens, right?

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So the aliens can take everything, must blame aliens.

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But this missing thing is really very true.

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which struck me a bit frightening.

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The hunters were in the forest.

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They had a recording device on.

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So it was many years ago in the 1970s.

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So where is this?

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Where is this?

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This is, I can't remember the case file.

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This was in the US.

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In the US.

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Again, in the US.

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It has to be in the US, not in Bukit Timah Hill.

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So in the US, so they recorded a voice, a strange growling voice and talking of a being

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that sounds like Yoda from Star Wars.

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Okay, this one is available on YouTube.

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You mean that voice recording is available on YouTube?

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Yes, it's recorded.

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And that voice spoke in English?

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No, it's not in English.

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It is something like...

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Oh my goodness, I don't believe you just did that.

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Get the fuck out of here, man.

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I need to clear my throat.

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I think there's something here, some mucus.

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It's getting hot.

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It is hot in Singapore.

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The weather is incredible.

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You can fry an egg on the road, on the pavement.

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I think so too.

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So that is one of the cases.

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And it was well documented in this second documentary.

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The Hunter.

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The Hunter or the Hunter, I can't remember.

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But do check it out.

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The Missing 411 series, they're available on Apple.

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Sounds interesting, man.

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Sounds interesting.

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Are they available on Apple?

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Apple TV?

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Apple TV, Apple Store.

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Like this show is available on Apple Podcasts as well.

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Okay, then moving on.

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The topic is very big.

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In our first episode, we were trying to

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actually grapple how do we actually

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present this topic.

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There's so many topics.

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Some of them are intertwined, interrelated.

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Most of them are without any kind of evidence.

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There is no scientific evidence

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to prove anything.

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So the listeners sometimes say, oh, this is a hearsay.

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This is just storytelling.

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This is Sandiwara, blah blah blah.

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So it's very hard.

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We're trying to just bring you an awareness

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of these things that are basically

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This is true in 2022.

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a hearing on UFOs.

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say something about this.

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No way. You mean Trump got it going?

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Yeah, he had a document.

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And one document inside that blah blah blah blah

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they call it a COVID document or something like that.

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Can't recall. COVID document.

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So he had to mention this.

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They had to give a report on update

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on what is happening here. Somebody very cleverly,

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one congressman put it inside

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that they had to reveal. And this was where

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the UAP.

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Unidentified aerial phenomena.

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So that takes away all these

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bad things that you hear about UFOs.

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The study of UFOs,

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all the crackpots and all that. So they tried to

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disengage from this group of

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people by saying the UAP issue.

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Instead of the UFO issue.

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So what they did was

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there was a group of people that actually

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leaked

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some videos out from Pentagon.

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And then three of the very famous ones,

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if you have seen the New York Times,

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they have released them out.

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One of them was a very famous

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UFO called the Tic Tac UFO.

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Oh yeah, the Tic Tac UFO.

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This is where you bring it up now, Kai.

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The Tic Tac UFO.

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Give me a second.

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It's not Kit Kat but it's Tic Tac.

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I think that's the first time everyone or anyone

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has ever heard your voice on there.

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Beautiful.

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Not that one. Not that one too.

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Not this one.

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That's the one.

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That's the one, right? Yeah, that's the one.

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So something about this

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object that you see, it's

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shot from a military plane.

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And what happened is that

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because it's a military plane, it's released

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by the Pentagon.

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So it's not because of someone leaking it?

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Somebody leaked it out.

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And then the Pentagon had no choice but to say

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yes, this belongs to us.

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So they were back into a corner.

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It's not as if they wanted to do so of their own free will.

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Yes, correct.

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So they released that.

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So when they released that, because of the credibility

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of a US plane that caught this,

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and that's how it started,

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this whole congressional hearing.

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So the congressional hearing,

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as usual,

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they had two. One was for the public,

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and then the second session was only

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to Congress. Because the reason is

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we cannot tell the public

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because we have all these technologies.

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The Russians might steal our technology.

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We have this drone capability.

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So we will have a second

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congressional hearing, but we will

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give you the full information. So to the public,

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it was just nonsense like

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yeah, they was there, we're investigating

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this, and it was just things

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that was very clean.

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There was nothing controversial.

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They just say, oh, these are unknown staff

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and all that's about it. But it's the congressional

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hearing that had a lot of information inside.

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Which was,

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what I heard was that the congressmen,

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the press was waiting for them.

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So when they came out of that congressional hearing,

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their face was white.

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They were already white guys. No shit, really?

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They were pale. They came out, they were a bit stunned.

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A bit disturbed. So that means to say

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that the whole, the entire US

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government, outside of the White

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House, US Congress,

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now know

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practically what, everything they need to know.

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Not basically practically,

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but I think they have a lot of information now.

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But it's, I think like I mentioned again,

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some people say this is the hostage thing.

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That means you're

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being held hostage. Held at gunpoint.

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By the aliens.

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So they've actually invaded us already.

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Yeah, correct. Like for example,

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some of the cases like

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the moon landing

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in America. Again, Americans.

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They landed on the moon.

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Now of course there's one group,

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people say no they never land. It never took place.

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I will throw that aside.

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Because it did.

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In my scientific knowledge,

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they landed on the moon. It's like flat

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earthers, man. Oh the earth's flat, man. It's not round.

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Whoever said it was round, jeez. Yeah, that's right.

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So they did land on the moon. Evidence to support

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them from many, many multiple scientific

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countries.

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But when they came back, the three

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astronauts, they had a press conference.

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The three of them was like as though they attended.

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You're talking about Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin.

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Correct. Yeah.

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So that, I mean they should be very happy and excited.

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We are the three first

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human beings to land on the moon.

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But if you study body language,

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you can see they are so sad, they're

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disturbed, they're distraught.

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They are told to say certain things but

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they are not supposed to say.

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So that was a very mind boggling

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thing to see when you see that

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presentation because it's historical.

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They should be over the moon.

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Should be over the moon. Entirely intended.

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I saw a Kentucky fried chicken right

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around the moon, man. You know things like that. Something that's

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exciting.

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But when they gave the press

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conference, they were like, oh my goodness.

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It's very sad.

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I think that spoke a lot of volume

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to me when I saw it personally.

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When I saw that thing, I said, oh wow.

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Something is happening.

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So what do you think happened?

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According to them, again leaked information

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from the astronauts. Some of them had passed away.

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But astronauts do talk to

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fellow astronauts.

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So they say when they landed on the moon,

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there were all these flying objects

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watching them as they landed.

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And when they came out of the moon,

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whatever, the capsule,

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they were being watched.

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So what you're

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saying is that this conspiracy theory

402
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about the moon being

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an alien base.

404
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Okay, that is another topic.

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There's no better time to talk about shit like this

406
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than now, isn't it?

407
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Yeah.

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The moon is too perfect.

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Do you need a glass of water or something, man?

410
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I need a whiskey.

411
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It can happen, don't worry.

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So the moon

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is too perfect a satellite.

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It's the only moon

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that is following a planet

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very closely

417
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in perfect synergy.

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That we get a full eclipse

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of the sun.

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No other planetary systems

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in the universe has

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scientists found the perfect moon,

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except our moon. Perfectly round.

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Perfectly spherical. Correct.

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And then when they dropped, what happened was

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when the spacecraft left the moon,

427
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and they dropped the payload,

428
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that means they don't want it to be too heavy.

429
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It rang like a bell.

430
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I heard about that.

431
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That means there was something hollow.

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So the moon is hollow.

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So what you're saying, that the moon is actually

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what is made, is artificial?

435
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Yeah, they say it's artificial.

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It's a construct built by

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an, it was delivered

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close to Earth.

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It is basically an observatory base

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where the aliens come,

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blah blah blah, and that's where you have the next topic

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which I want to talk about,

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which is related to the moon, it's called the solar warden.

444
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Sorry, before you go on

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to solar warden, yeah, let's talk

446
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about the moon a little bit more.

447
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I mean, I read about this, that

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it's so perfect

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in terms of the distance between

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the Earth and the moon and the sun

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that it basically completely

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eclipses the sun during a total eclipse, right?

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And we are the only

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planet in the solar system that actually

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has that happening.

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But, however,

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if

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there is some truth

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to the moon being

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artificial, and

461
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there could have been a time in

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Earth's past, a long time ago,

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that the moon didn't exist.

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To explain tides.

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I mean, it controls

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our tides, right?

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So,

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what would happen

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if we don't have the moon?

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So, are we saying that back in

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now we're going back to ancient astronauts again,

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are we saying that back in the day

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that, well, I mean, it's, well,

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archaeologists and historians have accepted

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the fact that there was

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a great flood.

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I mean, of course, biblically, we also

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know about the great flood

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in Noah, right? Noah's Ark.

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And

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there's been so much evidence of

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many ancient great

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civilizations that were wiped out

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by this flood.

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You mean,

486
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could it be that at that time

487
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the moon didn't exist?

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Because in some civilizations,

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what's the word for it?

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What people wrote and talk about, right?

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In the ancients, that is.

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I think even in the Bible,

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if I'm not mistaken, there was a quote

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that says,

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in the days before the

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arrival of the moon.

497
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Yes, I've heard that. Yeah.

498
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But you know something, man.

499
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People would really think we're a bunch of quacks now.

500
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That's why I say

501
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take it with a pinch of salt.

502
00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:40,800
It's very entertaining. Yeah, salt gives you cholesterol as well.

503
00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:42,800
Yeah, cholesterol, yes. Okay.

504
00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:44,800
Right. So it's entertaining, you know.

505
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That's why I say it's like science fiction.

506
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You enjoy the non-fiction

507
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as a science fiction.

508
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Because it's really nice

509
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to hear this because it could have happened.

510
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So that gives the edge to the

511
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story. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's the thing.

512
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What you mentioned is true. Yeah.

513
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The time before the moon and all that stuff.

514
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That was actually brought up by

515
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a few people who went to study

516
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ancient languages and of cultures

517
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in antiquity. They like to

518
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call it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

519
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So it's very interesting. Yeah.

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So the moon has always been one of

521
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the focal point for mankind since

522
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they were around. Right. And

523
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they always wanted to fly to the moon.

524
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So when they really got to the moon,

525
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then you have the second thing, oh what's on the

526
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moon? What's on the backside of the moon? The dark side. Yeah.

527
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think there are alien bases.

528
00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:32,800
But don't you think it's really weird

529
00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:34,800
to, we're still on the topic of the moon.

530
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Forgive me. Yes. Yes. Because it fascinates me. Yeah.

531
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I've been thinking

532
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about this for a long time. Really.

533
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The moon,

534
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it doesn't,

535
00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:48,800
it always shows the same face

536
00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:50,800
to earth. Yeah. Anywhere in the

537
00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:52,800
world, you see the same

538
00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:54,800
face. Correct. We don't see the

539
00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:56,800
other side. Yes. But the Chinese

540
00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:58,800
have recently launched,

541
00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:00,800
well, and came back,

542
00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:02,800
their own spacecraft to land on the

543
00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:04,800
far side of the moon. Yeah. Right.

544
00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:06,800
Edward Collins, who was the

545
00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:08,800
guy in the,

546
00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:10,800
in the,

547
00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:12,800
you know, when Apollo 11

548
00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:14,800
went in, right, what they do is that they land

549
00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,800
the lunar module. Then you have

550
00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:18,800
the other spacecraft

551
00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:20,800
with one more astronaut in there

552
00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:22,800
that will have to not orbit the

553
00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:24,800
moon. Yeah, orbit the moon. And then pick these guys up.

554
00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:26,800
Yes. Excuse me.

555
00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:28,800
When these guys, when the astronauts

556
00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:30,800
on the surface of the moon

557
00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:32,800
need to come back to earth, they will launch

558
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:34,800
from the moon in the limb. They call it the limb,

559
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:36,800
right, the lunar module. Yeah. And

560
00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:38,800
then attach itself to the one

561
00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:40,800
that's been waiting for them above in orbit. Yes.

562
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:42,800
Right. Now,

563
00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:44,800
Edward Collins actually flew

564
00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:46,800
to the back of the moon.

565
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:48,800
And he must have seen a lot of stuff.

566
00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:50,800
I think

567
00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:52,800
Armstrong, the three of them, actually

568
00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:54,800
also went to the back of the moon.

569
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:56,800
And during that time, there were no

570
00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:58,800
transmissions because they're at the back of the moon.

571
00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:00,800
Yeah, correct. They completely blocked off

572
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:02,800
from

573
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:04,800
Earth, isn't it? Yeah.

574
00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:06,800
So, the Chinese didn't say

575
00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:08,800
whether they saw anything.

576
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:10,800
The Chinese would never say anything.

577
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,800
You know, when I read about this,

578
00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:14,800
when I read about this, now you know that

579
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:16,800
they were sending

580
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:18,800
a probe to the far side

581
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:20,800
of the moon. I was hoping they would tell us

582
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:22,800
what did you see?

583
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:24,800
And it won't be as

584
00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:26,800
secretive as the Yangs. Yeah.

585
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:28,800
Not to be secretive, then they'll send another one.

586
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:30,800
Then they go and learn and study whatever, blah blah, they come back.

587
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:32,800
Then they build 10 more aircraft carriers.

588
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:34,800
And circle Taiwan.

589
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:39,800
I think you better keep your passport

590
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:41,800
in order to other countries now.

591
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:43,800
Yep. Okay, man.

592
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:45,800
Okay, sorry about that. I just wanted to raise

593
00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:47,800
that important point. You know what I mean?

594
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:49,800
It's kind of amazing because I think

595
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:51,800
you're right, those three guys

596
00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:53,800
on Apollo 11

597
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,800
that landed on the moon, I think they saw

598
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:57,800
more than they could chew. Yes,

599
00:22:57,800 --> 00:22:59,800
correct. That's right. They saw more than they could chew.

600
00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:01,800
And of course,

601
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:03,800
these are all scripted. You cannot say,

602
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,800
I mean, it's a public relations

603
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:07,800
thing. You cannot say, oh, I saw something there.

604
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,800
They have a code,

605
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:11,800
apparently there have been some

606
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:13,800
NASA had to

607
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:15,800
release some

608
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,800
by piece of the Secret Information Act.

609
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:19,800
No, the Release of Information Act.

610
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:21,800
Something like that.

611
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:23,800
That Americans have.

612
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:25,800
And recently it came to light

613
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:27,800
that there have been coms

614
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:29,800
that we don't hear.

615
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,800
That no one on Earth can hear.

616
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:33,800
It's between Cape Kennedy's

617
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:35,800
control

618
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:37,800
to the lunar module.

619
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,800
Not the lunar module, to the astronauts.

620
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:41,800
On the way to the moon

621
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,800
and whilst they were there.

622
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:45,800
It's a medical channel.

623
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:47,800
That's it.

624
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:49,800
And it's via another medium

625
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:51,800
of communications that they've got

626
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:53,800
inside the spacecraft.

627
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:55,800
And they have a

628
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,800
code word and they say that they saw

629
00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:59,800
anything that's

630
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:01,800
ET.

631
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,800
And it's code word was Santa Claus.

632
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,800
So I have Santa Claus.

633
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:07,800
I see Santa Claus.

634
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:09,800
And I saw that.

635
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:11,800
I mean, I was watching that documentary.

636
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:13,800
It was quite fascinating actually.

637
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:15,800
Because they still do have NASA

638
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:17,800
feeds beamed down

639
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,800
for enthusiasts to see

640
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:21,800
how does my neighborhood look like

641
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,800
in space.

642
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:25,800
What are they doing on a space shuttle for example?

643
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:27,800
International Space Station.

644
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:29,800
But many, many, many times

645
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:31,800
when something happens, something

646
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:33,800
approaches that is not natural,

647
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:35,800
they will cut the feed.

648
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,800
So it's a very good

649
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:39,800
YouTube channel that sort of broadcasts

650
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:41,800
these kind of anomalies.

651
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:43,800
And they call themselves the Secure Team.

652
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,800
I don't know if you've heard of them.

653
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:47,800
It's a freaking cool name.

654
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,800
It's one guy who's running it.

655
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:51,800
But he brings out all these,

656
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:53,800
he's very focused on bringing out all these anomalies.

657
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:55,800
That means you can see something approaching in the background.

658
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:57,800
Like the Black Knight.

659
00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,800
A Black Knight is like a

660
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:01,800
satellite which

661
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:03,800
according to many people is placed

662
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:05,800
in orbit since the world

663
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:07,800
began.

664
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,800
Since the world began and they've been

665
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,800
guarding human beings. So this is called the Black Knight.

666
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,800
Of course, please Google all this.

667
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:15,800
This sounds like that alien

668
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:17,800
movie called Prometheus.

669
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:19,800
It's like Prometheus, correct.

670
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:21,800
So speaking about Prometheus

671
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:23,800
and all that, Hollywood has

672
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,800
been talked about, that Hollywood

673
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,800
has actually been roped in

674
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,800
to sort of do a

675
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:31,800
disclosure of these things to the general public.

676
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,800
Basically try to ease us into

677
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,800
that this is actually quite customary.

678
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:37,800
Yes, and mankind

679
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:39,800
into our consciousness.

680
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,800
So it's called disclosure, isn't it? This whole thing is called disclosure.

681
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:43,800
Disclosure, yeah.

682
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,800
So disclosure means to disclose something

683
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:47,800
that I'm not telling you.

684
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:49,800
So for the whole world,

685
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,800
I mean to these UFO people,

686
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,800
it's called the disclosure.

687
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:55,800
So one of those very good Hollywood movies was

688
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:57,800
in my personal opinion was

689
00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:59,800
Close Encounters of the Third Kind by Steven Spielberg.

690
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:01,800
Long time ago. Yes. You have to see that.

691
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,800
You have not seen that before.

692
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,800
Because it really sums up

693
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:07,800
the entire information

694
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,800
that they have.

695
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:11,800
They have Jacques Vallee, which is a French

696
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:13,800
investigator. He was

697
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,800
on the show, but somebody acted like him.

698
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaking French.

699
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,800
And then they have also John Allen Hynek.

700
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,800
Yeah, Hynek was there.

701
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,800
So it was a very, very

702
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,800
powerful movie because

703
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,800
the last part when the aliens came out,

704
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,800
at that time nobody knew about the

705
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:31,800
bug eyes thing. It was very rare.

706
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:33,800
The grays. But there were grays there.

707
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,800
So it was really well planted.

708
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:37,800
The story was a very strong line.

709
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:39,800
So Steven Spielberg, even up to today

710
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:41,800
when he's asked about

711
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:43,800
things like that, he will tell you he

712
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,800
believes in these UFOs.

713
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:47,800
It's inspired him to do a lot

714
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:49,800
of movies. And the movies and the

715
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,800
story line, up to today,

716
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:53,800
he still gives suggestions

717
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,800
to certain sort of videographers,

718
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,800
not videographers, documentary

719
00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,800
terrians who would like to do

720
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:01,800
topics on this. They would still sometimes ask

721
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:03,800
him for help. He will point them in the right

722
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,800
direction for their research.

723
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:07,800
So does it mean that Spielberg knows something we don't?

724
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:09,800
I guess maybe. He was

725
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,800
interviewed on Playboy magazine.

726
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:13,800
I mean, I read it for

727
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,800
scientific purposes, not to see anything else.

728
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:17,800
But in the 1970s.

729
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,800
So Playboy magazine,

730
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:21,800
for those of you who do not know what

731
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:23,800
Playboy magazine is,

732
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,800
it's basically using modules like

733
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,800
for example PlayStation and Nintendo Switch.

734
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:29,800
So it's for

735
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:31,800
video gamers. It's called Playboy

736
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:33,800
magazine. So they have very

737
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:35,800
strong editorials there

738
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,800
that focuses on certain topics

739
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,800
like that. So when Steven Spielberg

740
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,800
made Close Encounters of a Third Kind,

741
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:43,800
there was a very strong editorial

742
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,800
done and interviewed with him.

743
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,800
So disclosure

744
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:49,800
is something that some people believe.

745
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,800
What I read is that somewhere in

746
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:53,800
2024, the governments of the world will be ready

747
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:55,800
to disclose

748
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,800
what's been happening with aliens.

749
00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,800
Actually the year goes back further.

750
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:01,800
1996, then it became

751
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:03,800
1997, 1998, 1999.

752
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,800
That's never going to happen then.

753
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,800
It's never going to happen because it's been a long time

754
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,800
ago. Is that right? Yeah.

755
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:11,800
So it's like 1996 and 2000.

756
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,800
On that note, when we're talking about right now

757
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,800
Close Encounters of a Third Kind,

758
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,800
so let's talk about some of the famous

759
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,800
cases of Close Encounters, man.

760
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,800
Like Rendlesham for example.

761
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:23,800
So for those of you who are

762
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,800
fans of this topic,

763
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,800
those of you who are not fans,

764
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:29,800
you will now know something that happened

765
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,800
in 1980. Where were you

766
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:33,800
in 1980? December.

767
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,800
Okay, Rendlesham Forest is basically

768
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,800
a forest in England,

769
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,800
United Kingdom, that had

770
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,800
British

771
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:43,800
and American troops on it.

772
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,800
So they're sort of a shared base.

773
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,800
In the UK.

774
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:49,800
So I think it's under NATO or something like that.

775
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,800
So there was an incident

776
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,800
in the forest. A triangular object actually

777
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:55,800
landed there. There was no body

778
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,800
staying around there. So

779
00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:59,800
in summary, it was recorded

780
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:01,800
on a tape recorder,

781
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,800
the whole incident by one of the sergeants

782
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,800
or the captains, I can't remember.

783
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,800
Captain. Yeah. Captain. Yeah. So they

784
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:09,800
went to investigate the lights and all that. So

785
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,800
it was a very intriguing case

786
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:13,800
because it is an isolated

787
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,800
case, but it is again by the military.

788
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,800
So

789
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,800
the whole incident happened in a military

790
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,800
thing. So it gives a lot

791
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:23,800
of weight to the story.

792
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:25,800
I won't dwell too much because

793
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,800
if I dwell too much, it will take up a lot of time.

794
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:29,800
So it happened that

795
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:31,800
they saw a craft,

796
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,800
they saw writings on the side of the craft,

797
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,800
they took it down, and then it has been

798
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:37,800
the stalwart for a lot of conferences

799
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,800
in the US

800
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,800
as to one of the very important cases.

801
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:43,800
That is

802
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:45,800
real.

803
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,800
And then they also had reports

804
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,800
written and given to the

805
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:51,800
higher ranks, higher ups.

806
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:53,800
Interestingly, I think this rendition forresting,

807
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:55,800
if I'm not mistaken, this is where

808
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,800
a popular ufologist

809
00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,800
came about. He was

810
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:01,800
formerly working for the Ministry of Defense

811
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,800
for the UK. That's right. And he is right now

812
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:05,800
an ardent ufologist. It's amazing that someone

813
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:07,800
from the military, you know, who

814
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,800
is working in

815
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:11,800
the Ministry for Defense for the UK,

816
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:13,800
now one of those is advocating

817
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:15,800
the fact that let's stop covering up

818
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,800
UFOs. And that guy is Nick Pope. Yes,

819
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:19,800
Nick Pope.

820
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:21,800
So Nick Pope is one of those...

821
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,800
The son of the Randall Shum thing. Yes, yes.

822
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,800
So he is responsible for

823
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,800
actually, you know, that case

824
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,800
to sort of summarize that case

825
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:31,800
properly. Then of

826
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:33,800
course we have the other important

827
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:35,800
cases like the Phoenix Lights.

828
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:37,800
Phoenix again is over

829
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,800
Arizona. Arizona is in the

830
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:41,800
US, beautiful country.

831
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,800
I've never been there.

832
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:45,800
But it was spotted by thousands of people.

833
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:47,800
So this happened in somewhere in March

834
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,800
1997. So

835
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:51,800
there was a row of lights that was

836
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:53,800
huge that covered the whole of Phoenix.

837
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:55,800
What does that mean, a fleet?

838
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:57,800
I think it was maybe

839
00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,800
a small fleet but it was just one

840
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:01,800
big radius of lights that came out

841
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:03,800
in the sky. Right.

842
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,800
It's triangular too.

843
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,800
Yeah, triangular was seen

844
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,800
later on as a

845
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:11,800
second fleet.

846
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,800
What? You mean there were two fleets? The first fleet was round.

847
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,800
Holy shit, a big one.

848
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:17,800
Then the second was a triangular one that was silent

849
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,800
and it was very close to the houses.

850
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,800
Because in the hilltops where people were staying,

851
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,800
residential houses, they saw this thing fly past.

852
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:25,800
And when they fly past,

853
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:27,800
they actually block the sky. You can't see

854
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:29,800
the stars or whatever at night.

855
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:31,800
And then it was very close to the ground.

856
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:33,800
So it's one of those cases again

857
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,800
was a mass sighting.

858
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:37,800
So according to

859
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:39,800
ufology studies, this is very important

860
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,800
because many people saw the same thing.

861
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,800
One very important scope is that

862
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:45,800
a military has to be involved like the Tic-Tac UFO

863
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,800
Randall Shum. Military people

864
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,800
involved. So it's credibility.

865
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:51,800
Second credibility is very

866
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:53,800
important. Mass. A lot of people saw it.

867
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:55,800
So this is

868
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:57,800
one of those very important

869
00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,800
cases. So

870
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:01,800
within a span of two hours,

871
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,800
they saw this over

872
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,800
So there were two fleets, man.

873
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,800
Two different types of spacecraft.

874
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,800
Two different types.

875
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:11,800
Well, it sounds like an

876
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,800
invasion. Yeah, it sounds like an invasion.

877
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,800
Yeah. Geez.

878
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:17,800
Then the other ones are basically

879
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:19,800
which I would recommend to

880
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:21,800
go to YouTube if you're interested in this topic.

881
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:23,800
Look for Jamie Moussan.

882
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,800
Moussan, I can't remember his name.

883
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,800
J-A-I-M-E-M-A-U-S-S-A-N.

884
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,800
Okay, now,

885
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,800
he's a Brazilian researcher, but he

886
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:33,800
has one of the best video evidence

887
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:35,800
that happens in Brazil or South America.

888
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:37,800
Of all these sightings.

889
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,800
And people actually give it to him

890
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:41,800
because he's one of the main researchers.

891
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,800
They have a TV show in Mexico

892
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,800
or Brazil, I can't recall.

893
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,800
A weekly show where they talk about

894
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,800
cases like that. It's very open in the South

895
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:51,800
America. So when they have that,

896
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:53,800
you can see a lot of video evidence.

897
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:55,800
Some of them flying into the volcano,

898
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:57,800
some of them coming out, things like that.

899
00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,800
So very interesting, very intriguing.

900
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:01,800
How about in Belgium?

901
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:03,800
There was something that happened there as well.

902
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:05,800
Oh yeah, there was a UFO wave in 89-90.

903
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,800
Within two years,

904
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:09,800
Belgians saw

905
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:11,800
a triangular shape UFO

906
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:13,800
all over.

907
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:15,800
You mean multiple ones?

908
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:17,800
Multiple ones, by many people again.

909
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,800
So the police

910
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:21,800
patrol cars were following this

911
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,800
object. People in the Air Force

912
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:25,800
were seeing them.

913
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:27,800
Airplanes were sent to intercept.

914
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:29,800
And then

915
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:31,800
general public saw these things.

916
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:33,800
What I'm seeing here is like

917
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,800
13,500 people saw.

918
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:37,800
13,500 people.

919
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,800
You can't be wrong.

920
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,800
So what happened is that they were hovering very low

921
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,800
in the sky. So people had a good look at them.

922
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:45,800
So again, it's an important

923
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:47,800
case. Because again,

924
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:49,800
it's a mess I think.

925
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,800
It's not a one-off. Like I saw it today in Tiong Bahru.

926
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:53,800
That kind of thing. I saw it in Bedok

927
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,800
South. Only I saw all

928
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:57,800
everyone else was too damn busy in

929
00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,800
Singapore.

930
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:01,800
Basically, it's very contestable.

931
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:03,800
At least you can't contest because there's a lot of

932
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,800
witnesses.

933
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:07,800
I'm beginning to think,

934
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:09,800
if we've got a Phoenix

935
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,800
lights kind of sighting in Singapore,

936
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,800
I don't think a lot of people will even

937
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,800
notice. They will say

938
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,800
National Day is coming so fast. I think so.

939
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:19,800
National Day.

940
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,800
Why so late at night? How come so many

941
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,800
lights? And no sound.

942
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:25,800
Because Singapore,

943
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,800
I think the problem is we are a small country.

944
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:29,800
Number two, we have very heavy

945
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:31,800
light pollution. Yeah, I think so.

946
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,800
It's very bright. I mean, sometimes

947
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,800
I wish I look up into the sky, I can see

948
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,800
the Milky Way and Andromeda.

949
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,800
But you can't.

950
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,800
Because it's too bright. It's a very safe

951
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,800
country.

952
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,800
I mean, I'm not

953
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,800
saying anything. I'm sure we are.

954
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,800
We are.

955
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:51,800
It's very bright. So you can't see

956
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:53,800
much of the stars.

957
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:55,800
But then again, the UFOs,

958
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:57,800
if UFOs want to show themselves, I'm

959
00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,800
pretty sure they would be brighter.

960
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:01,800
They would be brighter. More intelligent.

961
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,800
I don't know.

962
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,800
I don't know. As long as they don't

963
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:07,800
probe my ass.

964
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:09,800
Okay.

965
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,800
So those are the mass sightings.

966
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,800
Yeah, mass sightings. Close encounters.

967
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,800
Then for airplanes,

968
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:17,800
in general, I know a lot of pilots

969
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,800
have seen such

970
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,800
objects in the sky. I know of certain

971
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:23,800
people who have seen and told me

972
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,800
beforehand. You're talking about what?

973
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,800
Singaporean pilots. Yes, Singaporean pilots.

974
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,800
No way.

975
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,800
Really, really, really.

976
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,800
So I had

977
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:35,800
this is

978
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:37,800
not bullshitting.

979
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,800
Because this person actually

980
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,800
spoke to me. Not because he knew

981
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:43,800
I liked the subject, but it was just

982
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:45,800
out of, just really

983
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:47,800
out of the blue. He just told me, hey,

984
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:49,800
I was flying over the streets of Taiwan.

985
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:51,800
And I saw three objects

986
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:53,800
flying above my cockpit.

987
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,800
Do you believe that?

988
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,800
So I say, wow, what three objects? Birds.

989
00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:59,800
I say, no, not so high.

990
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:01,800
He say, I saw a cube.

991
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:03,800
This big, flying above

992
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,800
my cockpit, the first one.

993
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:07,800
Then I saw a second cube

994
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:09,800
fly by, and a third one,

995
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,800
the size of four 747s.

996
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,800
Over...

997
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:15,800
Shit dude, sounds like Star Trek.

998
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,800
Any Trekkies out there,

999
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:19,800
you know, it's called the Borg, man.

1000
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:21,800
The Borg Cube.

1001
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:23,800
Transformers.

1002
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:25,800
No, not Transformers, man. Come on.

1003
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:27,800
This is the Borg, man.

1004
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:29,800
You shall be assimilated, resistance is futile.

1005
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,800
I am Optimus Sparrow.

1006
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,800
So this guy, one of ours,

1007
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,800
actually,

1008
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:37,800
he's a commercial pilot.

1009
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,800
Commercial pilot, right? So the name's all, I will not say.

1010
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:41,800
But when he

1011
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,800
landed in Taiwan,

1012
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:45,800
they were asked, officially, would you like to do a report?

1013
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,800
So he was not a senior

1014
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:49,800
flight pilot.

1015
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,800
There was a captain above him.

1016
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:53,800
So the captain said, no, we didn't see anything.

1017
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:55,800
No report is to be done.

1018
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,800
So during that get together

1019
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,800
with fellow pilots from different airlines,

1020
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:01,800
so he brought it up

1021
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,800
out of the sudden. You know, I was flying

1022
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:05,800
over, we were flying, and we saw this object.

1023
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,800
Have any of you seen? He was straight away

1024
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:09,800
rebuked by his senior pilot.

1025
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:11,800
I said, keep your mouth quiet. Was the

1026
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,800
captain of his flight,

1027
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,800
was he local? He's not local.

1028
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:17,800
Ah, I see figures. Yeah.

1029
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,800
I wonder,

1030
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:21,800
this is an interesting point, I wonder

1031
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:23,800
if, let's say, the captain was Singaporean,

1032
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,800
and everyone on board, and the crew,

1033
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,800
the flight crew, they are Singaporean.

1034
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:29,800
And I wonder what

1035
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,800
is the protocol for

1036
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:33,800
our airlines, you know, and for

1037
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,800
our pilots. I'm not

1038
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,800
surprised. I mean, if you've got a

1039
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,800
Westerner, who's his

1040
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,800
captain, they've

1041
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:43,800
grown up, they grew up with this, you know, they grew

1042
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:45,800
up, not like us. We grew up with the

1043
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:47,800
one-two stories, you know, the ghost

1044
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:49,800
supernatural shit, right?

1045
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:51,800
We don't talk about UFOs

1046
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:53,800
and stuff. But for these

1047
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:55,800
guys, coming from the West, they know that

1048
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:57,800
don't talk about it, otherwise, you know, you're just going to be

1049
00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,800
in the shit, better don't, you know?

1050
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:01,800
Culturally, they're like that, right?

1051
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:03,800
But I wonder if they're all Singaporeans, including the

1052
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:05,800
captain. What would

1053
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:07,800
they have, would they just, you know, would they be

1054
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,800
flapping their lips and going, you know,

1055
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:11,800
and going, you know, hey guys, guess what?

1056
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:13,800
We saw three cubes flying

1057
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,800
past our cockpit, man.

1058
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:17,800
I guess maybe they were.

1059
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:19,800
They don't see any harm in that.

1060
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:21,800
I don't know. I don't know what our protocol is in

1061
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,800
Singapore. I mean, what happens if

1062
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:25,800
we're on the street and we

1063
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:27,800
see a fleet of UFOs in the sky?

1064
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:29,800
What do we do?

1065
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:31,800
Would we call a cop? I mean, that's what

1066
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,800
the citizens would do, right? They would call a cop, right?

1067
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:35,800
And what would the reaction be like?

1068
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:37,800
I've always wondered about that stuff.

1069
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:39,800
I think very big panic

1070
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,800
and fear. Yeah, in this country?

1071
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:43,800
In this country. Really? Yes, because I feel

1072
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,800
that there will not be a sense of

1073
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,800
wonderment. Wow. No, it won't be,

1074
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:49,800
but there'll be a sense of like

1075
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:51,800
you know, I'm going to speak in Hokkien.

1076
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:53,800
I'll translate it for you. Hey,

1077
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:55,800
what's that?

1078
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:57,800
Hokkien is a dialect, Chinese dialect.

1079
00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,800
And

1080
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:01,800
they're going to go there, you know, they're going to say

1081
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,800
that. Then after that, I suppose

1082
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:05,800
they're just going to forget. Yeah, they're going to forget.

1083
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,800
Yeah, because you're going to

1084
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,800
catch the MRT back. So

1085
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:11,800
that is very pragmatic.

1086
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:13,800
We're just so distracted, man. No, no, no, no.

1087
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:15,800
I think not about being pragmatic.

1088
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:17,800
I think we're just distracted, man.

1089
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,800
We're distracted by too many things.

1090
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:21,800
Yeah, we're just distracted. Yeah. Okay, let's

1091
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:23,800
move on from there.

1092
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,800
So this is crazy. I mean,

1093
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,800
three cubes, man. Three cubes, yeah. And then

1094
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,800
I have not finished the description. He was telling me

1095
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:31,800
it's a

1096
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:33,800
cube, you know, ridiculous, right? I mean,

1097
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:35,800
as we know, in physics, a cube

1098
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,800
cannot just fly. But around the

1099
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:39,800
cube was like

1100
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,800
other smaller objects flying

1101
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:43,800
around the cube. Oh. Yeah.

1102
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,800
So this is a cube and there was other things flying

1103
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,800
around it. Right. Yeah. So the thing

1104
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,800
is that he says he will never forget

1105
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,800
it. But at that time, there were

1106
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,800
no digital cameras. Right.

1107
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:55,800
This was quite a while back. No iPhones.

1108
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,800
No iPhones, I think. So you have to use those kind of lenses

1109
00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,800
but they don't carry back

1110
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:01,800
DSLR onto the

1111
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:03,800
cockpit. So they saw the thing.

1112
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,800
Right. We can just take

1113
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:07,800
the word for it. Yeah, just take the word for it.

1114
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:09,800
Yeah. Okay. So one case that was

1115
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,800
actually, I think,

1116
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,800
very similar but not that similar was

1117
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:15,800
in 1986. Right.

1118
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,800
Japan Airlines. Something out of America now.

1119
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:19,800
Japan Airlines flight 1628.

1120
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,800
1628. Yes. It was flying from

1121
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:23,800
Paris to Tokyo, okay, when crew

1122
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:25,800
members spotted several UFOs.

1123
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:27,800
So the crew called in

1124
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:29,800
through, they saw

1125
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:31,800
these multiple things and then they

1126
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:33,800
made an emergency landing in Alaska

1127
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:35,800
which is Anchorage,

1128
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,800
part of the thing.

1129
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:39,800
So the thing is that the ground crew

1130
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:41,800
had evidence. Right.

1131
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:43,800
They were being followed. Right.

1132
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:45,800
This thing was huge. According to them,

1133
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,800
if we know that 747 is a plane,

1134
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:49,800
but we also know that

1135
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:51,800
according to them, it's like

1136
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:53,800
200 times the size

1137
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:55,800
of it. Next to it, it's a very, very

1138
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:57,800
big one. 200 times.

1139
00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:59,800
Yeah. I'm trying to

1140
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:01,800
figure this out in my brain.

1141
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:03,800
Do we have an image of that?

1142
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:05,800
Did we pop it up just now, Kai?

1143
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:07,800
Of the Japan Airlines flight

1144
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,800
1628?

1145
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:13,800
Drum roll. Yeah, that's the one.

1146
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:15,800
Yeah, that's the one. Correct.

1147
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:17,800
Okay. So that's the craft. Can we just leave it up

1148
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:19,800
for a bit, please?

1149
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,800
Okay. Yeah. So this was

1150
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,800
the craft that they saw. It's really very big.

1151
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:25,800
Right. I mean,

1152
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:27,800
it was observed, it was reported.

1153
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:29,800
It was drawn out, as you can see here.

1154
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:31,800
And the best part is that it was captured on

1155
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:33,800
radar in

1156
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:35,800
Alaska.

1157
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:37,800
So this is again a very

1158
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,800
famous case because there is multiple

1159
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:41,800
witnesses and ground radar

1160
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:43,800
being tracked. So

1161
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:45,800
you cannot say that it didn't happen.

1162
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:47,800
It was based on word of mouth. But

1163
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:49,800
because they actually tracked and they have the data

1164
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:51,800
for this. But why did they make

1165
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:53,800
an emergency landing

1166
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:55,800
in Alaska? I think because

1167
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:57,800
they couldn't fly

1168
00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,800
anymore. I think maybe out of fear

1169
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:01,800
or a fear of accident. I see.

1170
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:03,800
Of basically engagement. So basically

1171
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:05,800
out of being kiasu. Yeah.

1172
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,800
For safety reasons. Right. Okay.

1173
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:09,800
Safety reasons. Fine. Thanks. I was looking for that word.

1174
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:11,800
I got only thing of kiasi.

1175
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:13,800
Safety. Flight

1176
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:15,800
safety. It's a seat belt.

1177
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:21,800
Okay.

1178
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:25,800
Right.

1179
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:27,800
Are we getting stuck somewhere now?

1180
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:29,800
No, no. We're not getting stuck.

1181
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:31,800
Just to mention, these are the famous

1182
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:33,800
cases with evidence. For

1183
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,800
those new people who are listening

1184
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:37,800
to this podcast or watching this.

1185
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:39,800
And if you're really very

1186
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:41,800
interested after hearing the guru talk

1187
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:43,800
about all this, I really

1188
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:45,800
like to know more about this.

1189
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:47,800
Randall Schoenforrest incident.

1190
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:49,800
The Belgian UFO wave.

1191
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:51,800
The Phoenix lights.

1192
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:53,800
The Japan Airlines flight 1628

1193
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:55,800
1628. Of course, you

1194
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:57,800
can have the current Pentagon videos.

1195
00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:59,800
Tic Tac UFOs. These are all

1196
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:01,800
evidence based sightings that

1197
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:03,800
have a lot of support. But you missed

1198
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:05,800
out the close

1199
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:07,800
encounter of the fourth kind for

1200
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:09,800
Betty and Barney Hill. Yes.

1201
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:11,800
Correct. Betty and Barney Hill was one of

1202
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:13,800
the first reported cases

1203
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:15,800
where they were abducted

1204
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:17,800
onto a UFO.

1205
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:19,800
They were driving home. I think

1206
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:21,800
from one state in Canada

1207
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:23,800
to the US

1208
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:25,800
going home on a night drive.

1209
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:27,800
They were being followed by

1210
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:29,800
a craft. So this craft followed

1211
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:31,800
them for a while and then they stopped

1212
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:33,800
ahead of the car. When

1213
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:35,800
Barney came out with a

1214
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:37,800
binoculars and he

1215
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:39,800
saw this craft was round

1216
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:41,800
and he saw alien creatures

1217
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:43,800
on the windows of the craft.

1218
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:45,800
And they actually spoke to him.

1219
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:47,800
Passengers. Oh they spoke to him. Yeah.

1220
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:49,800
Telepathically. What did they say? They said

1221
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,800
please don't leave. We need you. Something like that.

1222
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:53,800
Something happened. So he ran back to the car.

1223
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:55,800
He go back to the car. He sped off.

1224
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:57,800
But the thing is that they couldn't remember because

1225
00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:59,800
the next thing they remembered

1226
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:01,800
was daytime because this incident happened at night.

1227
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:03,800
So it was daytime. They had missing time.

1228
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:05,800
Missing time meaning that they cannot recall

1229
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:07,800
what happened during this period of time.

1230
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:09,800
So then they went about their daily

1231
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:11,800
activities and then they started to

1232
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:13,800
have flashbacks. Hey!

1233
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:15,800
Now that you mentioned this man, I don't know

1234
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:17,800
whether you've read this before. Decades

1235
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:19,800
ago when we were in

1236
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:21,800
I think it was in the 90s.

1237
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:23,800
Yeah somewhere in the 90s.

1238
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:25,800
I remember this and

1239
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:27,800
I read it man. I read

1240
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:29,800
it somewhere in one of our newspapers.

1241
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:31,800
I'm not kidding. It was

1242
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:33,800
a small story. It was like

1243
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:35,800
put it in the corner somewhere in a newspaper.

1244
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:37,800
There was this guy

1245
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:39,800
that was driving home in Singapore

1246
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:41,800
on the PIE. Oh I heard about this.

1247
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:43,800
Oh you have huh? Yeah. And somewhere

1248
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:45,800
between I think Bedok

1249
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:47,800
and

1250
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:49,800
Bedok and

1251
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:51,800
Campanies. There was

1252
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:53,800
a lapse of time. Yes. And all of a sudden

1253
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:55,800
he landed much further away.

1254
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:57,800
Like he said what just happened?

1255
00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:59,800
Yeah. Who knows man?

1256
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:01,800
He may have been abducted.

1257
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:03,800
Abducted and put back in his car.

1258
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:05,800
I remember this one. I think it's in the 1980s or even

1259
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:07,800
earlier 1970s. No no no no.

1260
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:09,800
I don't think it was earlier man. So it was the car

1261
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:11,800
incident. Yeah yeah yeah.

1262
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:13,800
All of a sudden there was a

1263
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,800
lapse of time and he was very quickly

1264
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:17,800
somewhere else. Yeah. Right yeah.

1265
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:19,800
So the time machine. Yeah man.

1266
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:21,800
Geez. Not time machine dude.

1267
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:23,800
He may have been abducted, got

1268
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:25,800
his butt probed and put back down

1269
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:27,800
together with his car. Yeah correct. And his foot and pedal

1270
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:29,800
too. Yeah maybe. Same clothes on.

1271
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:31,800
Yeah same clothes man. Yeah like right now

1272
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:33,800
you and I still same clothes from last week to now. Yeah correct.

1273
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:35,800
Right here we go. We have missing time. Yes that's right.

1274
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:37,800
So when they went through this missing time incident

1275
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:39,800
they

1276
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:41,800
went through

1277
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:43,800
to see a doctor to understand

1278
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:45,800
what's happening to them. They're getting very edgy. Right.

1279
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:47,800
They're getting a lot of flashbacks but

1280
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:49,800
they cannot identify what is bothering them.

1281
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:51,800
And then that's where they went through

1282
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:53,800
hypnotic regression. Here we go again.

1283
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:55,800
And this was the very first I think

1284
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:57,800
publicized one that was done. And that was

1285
00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:59,800
where the whole story came out. Right. And so

1286
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:01,800
what happened? What did they say?

1287
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:03,800
They were taken aboard

1288
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:05,800
the plane. They were taken aboard

1289
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:07,800
the plane. The craft.

1290
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:09,800
And then they were what they

1291
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:11,800
call medically examined.

1292
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:13,800
Without their clothes on. Right. On a cold table.

1293
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:15,800
Right. And they were told not to

1294
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:17,800
worry we're not here to harm you. Right.

1295
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:19,800
And then it's quite disgusting

1296
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,800
if you go through this. It's basically

1297
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:23,800
medical things

1298
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:25,800
which were unknown to us were probed

1299
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:27,800
into their body. Right. Like

1300
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:29,800
for example

1301
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:31,800
the normal cases would be the probe into the ovaries.

1302
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:33,800
Oh dear. To remove ovaries from

1303
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:35,800
a woman. From men it would be

1304
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:37,800
sucking out his sperm.

1305
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:39,800
Right. That kind of thing. So it's quite

1306
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:41,800
gross and it's very frightening actually for people

1307
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:43,800
who go through this. Yeah. That's why this abduction

1308
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:45,800
case is not something true. So what are you doing this for?

1309
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:47,800
Like what you said in the last episode, the last

1310
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:49,800
part of this episode, the first part

1311
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:51,800
of this episode, when you said that

1312
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:53,800
for what they need to inseminate

1313
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:55,800
they need to have. Yes.

1314
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:57,800
To regrow their, part of the

1315
00:46:57,800 --> 00:46:59,800
thing that they went through this abductees

1316
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:01,800
when they go through regression, some of them

1317
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:03,800
are told why they are doing

1318
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:05,800
this to them. Okay. Because

1319
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:07,800
their race or their culture

1320
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:09,800
or whatever, in that planet is dying.

1321
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:11,800
Right. Yeah. So they are here

1322
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:13,800
to take our DNA for reproductive

1323
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:15,800
purposes. Right. Yeah.

1324
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:17,800
So of course these kind of things, when I

1325
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:19,800
first read it a long time ago I was like, wow

1326
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:21,800
really man, it's cool man.

1327
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:23,800
But after reading many times I become

1328
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:25,800
like, the narrative is a bit science fiction.

1329
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:27,800
Yeah. Yeah. I mean I try to

1330
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:29,800
understand this but I also try to be a

1331
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:31,800
skeptic of this. Some things you can really

1332
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:33,800
Yeah but it's so, apparently

1333
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:37,800
apparently, I'm going to really sound like I got a freaking quack again.

1334
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:39,800
There are about 30, what 32 races

1335
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:41,800
of aliens so far discovered.

1336
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:43,800
Yeah that's the thing, sometimes I laugh you know, because

1337
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:45,800
it's so easy to just quote a number

1338
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:47,800
the amount as

1339
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:49,800
the tall, the greys. The greys, the tall

1340
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:51,800
then you got the tall

1341
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:53,800
the Scandinavian

1342
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:55,800
looking type, the Nordics, the Nordics

1343
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:57,800
the reptilians, the

1344
00:47:57,800 --> 00:47:59,800
Arcturians. Yes, correct. So

1345
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:01,800
according to eyewitnesses, they have

1346
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:03,800
the very beautiful aliens, they look like

1347
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:05,800
Swedish. I don't mind one actually.

1348
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:07,800
There's a band called ABBA.

1349
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:09,800
ABBA, they look

1350
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:11,800
like ABBA. Yeah. So when they can't say

1351
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:13,800
Dancing Queen but they are a gay band right?

1352
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:15,800
So

1353
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:17,800
so that's one.

1354
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:19,800
Then there's one that looks like

1355
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:21,800
insects, praying mantis.

1356
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:23,800
And some of them looks like a crocodile

1357
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:25,800
or like a lizard person.

1358
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:27,800
They call it the reptilians. And then some of the

1359
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:29,800
greys. Like the old sci-fi show

1360
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:31,800
V. Yeah, correct. And

1361
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:33,800
many, many others. So sometimes you ask

1362
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:35,800
yourself, are these real? Are these

1363
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:37,800
people just off the cuff

1364
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:39,800
saying things like that?

1365
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:41,800
Then it gets into the New Age

1366
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:43,800
thing. Nothing against New Age but some

1367
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:45,800
of the beliefs or these things like that.

1368
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:47,800
So it gets very cloudy. The

1369
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:49,800
UFO topic loses

1370
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:51,800
its scientific endeavor.

1371
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:53,800
The evidence to prove it.

1372
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:55,800
But people do say yes, there is a

1373
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:57,800
list of them. They're here

1374
00:48:57,800 --> 00:48:59,800
everywhere. And some of them say they're already in society

1375
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:01,800
living with us. Don't you think so?

1376
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:03,800
I guess maybe only

1377
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:05,800
in the US.

1378
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:07,800
Because the climate there

1379
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:09,800
is better.

1380
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:11,800
Actually,

1381
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:13,800
funny you should say that

1382
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:15,800
because everywhere I read about this

1383
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:17,800
all the reptilians are here and they've invaded

1384
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:19,800
our bodies. You know,

1385
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:21,800
then if you take a look closely the eyes change.

1386
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:23,800
You see the eyes, see the true eyes

1387
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:25,800
turn up. The lizard eyes

1388
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:27,800
come up. And then it's always

1389
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:29,800
about their own government officials.

1390
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:31,800
There was even one time

1391
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:33,800
the Brits thought that it was a queen.

1392
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:35,800
That was, you know, jeez.

1393
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:37,800
That's a very

1394
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:39,800
big otter in the UK.

1395
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:41,800
Some people call me a quack bot.

1396
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:43,800
David Icke. I-C-K-E.

1397
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:45,800
So this guy, he says that the

1398
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:47,800
bloodline of the royal family

1399
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:49,800
comes from a reptilian race

1400
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:51,800
of people which come to me

1401
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:53,800
when I am asleep one

1402
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:55,800
night and then they tell me

1403
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:57,800
that the queen

1404
00:49:57,800 --> 00:49:59,800
is actually a reptile.

1405
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:01,800
Things like that.

1406
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:03,800
So it destroys

1407
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:05,800
credibility.

1408
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:07,800
And that's why you mention these people

1409
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:09,800
saying you're a quack bot.

1410
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:11,800
But then again, you know, it's so damn far fetched.

1411
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:13,800
But then again, a lot of things

1412
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:15,800
we've been talking about that seems

1413
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:17,800
fascinating to us also seem quite far fetched.

1414
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:19,800
It's very hard to draw a line.

1415
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:21,800
Which means that

1416
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:23,800
moving on to our next topic, which is

1417
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:25,800
Solar Warden, I think this is

1418
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:27,800
really, really, really

1419
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:29,800
far fetched. Say for

1420
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:31,800
the fact that the guy

1421
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:33,800
who spilled his guts about

1422
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:35,800
this, I mean

1423
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:37,800
he is quite

1424
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:39,800
the hacker.

1425
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:41,800
To the point

1426
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:43,800
where, okay I let you tell the story.

1427
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:45,800
So you know

1428
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:47,800
see the evolution of the stories of

1429
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:49,800
about aliens and blah blah blah

1430
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:51,800
has stretched so far like a

1431
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:53,800
rubber band that now we have this

1432
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:55,800
topic called the

1433
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:57,800
Secret Space Program.

1434
00:50:57,800 --> 00:50:59,800
What is that? Yeah, Secret Space Program. That means

1435
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:01,800
okay I'll just maybe start from the beginning.

1436
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:03,800
There's this

1437
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:05,800
hacker called Gary McKinnon.

1438
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:07,800
For those of you who are, who

1439
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:09,800
watch the news regularly,

1440
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:11,800
you will know he's a hacker who hacked into US

1441
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:13,800
computers.

1442
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:15,800
So he went into the Space Command computers

1443
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:17,800
several years ago and learned the

1444
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:19,800
existence of non-terrestrial

1445
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:21,800
officers. The meaning is

1446
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:23,800
non-terrestrial officers was

1447
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:25,800
printed on a form. Not from this earth.

1448
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:27,800
Not from this earth. And one more

1449
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:29,800
called fleet to fleet transfers.

1450
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:31,800
So these two words were found

1451
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:33,800
non-terrestrial officers and fleet to fleet transfers.

1452
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:35,800
And a secret

1453
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:37,800
space program called Solar Warden.

1454
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:39,800
The Sun, Solar Warden.

1455
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:41,800
He

1456
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:43,800
was charged by the Bush Justice Department

1457
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:45,800
for having committed the biggest

1458
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:47,800
military computer hack of all time.

1459
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:49,800
Yeah, I mean, I think MI5

1460
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:51,800
came down real hard on him. Yes, correct.

1461
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:53,800
For a hacker, you know.

1462
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:55,800
I mean, hackers is a hacker.

1463
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:57,800
It was all over the BBC at the time. Yeah, but this is

1464
00:51:57,800 --> 00:51:59,800
like the topic, I mean the content

1465
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:01,800
was too heavy. That's why they had to charge him.

1466
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:03,800
Because normally a hacker

1467
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:05,800
can hack video games and all that.

1468
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:07,800
Nobody will come. But this is the

1469
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:09,800
topic. So

1470
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:11,800
they're trying to arrest him in an open

1471
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:13,800
court. But his attorney

1472
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:15,800
cannot, sort of

1473
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:17,800
would be able to subpoena government

1474
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:19,800
officials to testify under oath

1475
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:21,800
that they have this space fleet.

1476
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:23,800
That means they cannot touch

1477
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:25,800
him. Because if they touch him, they will

1478
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:27,800
have to admit that we

1479
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:29,800
have such a fleet. According to

1480
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:31,800
him, that there is

1481
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:33,800
they have eight cigar-shaped

1482
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:35,800
motherships. The US

1483
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:37,800
government owns. Okay. Okay.

1484
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:39,800
They are basically each

1485
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:41,800
longer than two football fields end to end.

1486
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:43,800
Yep. And they are basically

1487
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:45,800
have about three

1488
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:47,800
hundred personnel

1489
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:49,800
involved in a facility.

1490
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:51,800
Okay.

1491
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:53,800
So it's comprised of many countries.

1492
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:55,800
Canada, United Kingdom, Italy,

1493
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:57,800
Austria, Russia

1494
00:52:57,800 --> 00:52:59,800
and Australia. Wow. So they are basically

1495
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:01,800
doing this, what

1496
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:03,800
you call, black projects. Now black

1497
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:05,800
project means the money coming from

1498
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:07,800
the tax payers money. Right.

1499
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:09,800
But parked into a special

1500
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:11,800
so called special project. Right.

1501
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:13,800
And from there they build things like that.

1502
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:15,800
Right. But does this mean, okay

1503
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:19,800
this US naval

1504
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:21,800
network, this, that time when Gary

1505
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:23,800
McKinnon, you know, spilled his

1506
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:25,800
guts about this.

1507
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:27,800
And then now

1508
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:29,800
this years later, right?

1509
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:31,800
I mean when Trump was president

1510
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:33,800
and that dipshit

1511
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:35,800
started, yeah.

1512
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:37,800
Space force, right? Yeah, space force. Yeah.

1513
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:39,800
I mean was he spooked enough as a president

1514
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:41,800
then to start something like

1515
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:43,800
space force. However

1516
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:45,800
maybe open this up, you know,

1517
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:47,800
maybe open this up to the public. It was attempting

1518
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:49,800
to open this up to the public. I don't know.

1519
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:51,800
But come on.

1520
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:53,800
Here we have Elon Musk

1521
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:55,800
on his own as a commercial project

1522
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:57,800
working on SpaceX. Right.

1523
00:53:57,800 --> 00:53:59,800
And then we have

1524
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:01,800
NASA

1525
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:03,800
having dropped off so many bovors

1526
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:05,800
on Mars. Right.

1527
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:07,800
And man wanting to go to Mars

1528
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:09,800
and stuff. But right

1529
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:11,800
now what we're saying is for many, many,

1530
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:13,800
many, many years we've got

1531
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:15,800
our own bloody

1532
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:17,800
fleet. Fleet.

1533
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:19,800
Of mother ships.

1534
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:21,800
Cigar shape at that

1535
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:23,800
as well. Just like some alien

1536
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:25,800
spacecraft that people have spotted.

1537
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:27,800
So this

1538
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:29,800
spacecraft can travel, I mean

1539
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:31,800
anything that you've read

1540
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:33,800
about that could travel, what,

1541
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:35,800
light years or almost.

1542
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:37,800
Travel to any planet. They already have

1543
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:39,800
treaties. That's the best part.

1544
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:41,800
Alien beings. Excuse me?

1545
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:43,800
Cosmic alliances? We are like a cosmic

1546
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:45,800
what do you call that? The freaking

1547
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:47,800
federation. Federation. Earth

1548
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:49,800
is on, see, that's

1549
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:51,800
how far fetched it blows up. Space, the

1550
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:53,800
final frontier. These are the voyages of

1551
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:55,800
oh my goodness me. Yeah, correct.

1552
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:57,800
And that is another big threat

1553
00:54:57,800 --> 00:54:59,800
in threat. As in T-H-R-E-A-D

1554
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:01,800
in a UFO

1555
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:03,800
field in, again in America.

1556
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:05,800
Because you don't find this in any other country.

1557
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:07,800
They will talk about this, they are

1558
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:09,800
officers there, but under hypnosis

1559
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:11,800
they remember they were officers,

1560
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:13,800
they shot down some aliens.

1561
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:15,800
But you know, I mean, you know,

1562
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:17,800
US, Canada, UK, Italy,

1563
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:19,800
Austria, Russia

1564
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:21,800
in Australia. I mean,

1565
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:23,800
dude,

1566
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:25,800
I mean, what,

1567
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:27,800
this whole thing about oh you know, they can't

1568
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:29,800
get along, you know,

1569
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:31,800
Russia and the US, they can't

1570
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:33,800
get along, but their

1571
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:35,800
partners, I mean,

1572
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:37,800
all this is what, farcical or what?

1573
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:39,800
It's an iron, irony.

1574
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:41,800
I mean, I don't know man, I still think it's

1575
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:43,800
kind of far-fetched. You know, this

1576
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:45,800
solar warden thing, I mean, what are they doing? What did they form

1577
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:47,800
that for? I mean, for what reason? What purpose? Are we going to

1578
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:49,800
war somewhere in space? I mean, who?

1579
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:51,800
What? Space exploration.

1580
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:53,800
You know, but the thing is this,

1581
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:55,800
the

1582
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:57,800
Starship troopers. Starship troopers, you know, things like that.

1583
00:55:57,800 --> 00:55:59,800
It's very funny because the topic is

1584
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:01,800
so big. So, you know, as a,

1585
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:03,800
if you're really interested in this topic, you got to really,

1586
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:05,800
really see the real from the fake.

1587
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:07,800
Go into the rabbit hole.

1588
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:09,800
Yeah, you got to remove certain things.

1589
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:11,800
I mean, that's my take on it

1590
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:13,800
because if you want to believe everything, it's ridiculous.

1591
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:15,800
Yeah.

1592
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:17,800
Yeah, so solar warden is one of them.

1593
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:19,800
And people do swear by this.

1594
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:21,800
They say, yes, it happens, blah, blah, blah.

1595
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:23,800
You know, so, again,

1596
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:25,800
there's a different school of thought. Yeah.

1597
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:27,800
So, who do you believe? What to believe?

1598
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:29,800
So, I always believe that

1599
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:31,800
you got to have the few sightings, like

1600
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:33,800
it is basically admitted

1601
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:35,800
by the military.

1602
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:37,800
You really did see something with evidence.

1603
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:39,800
Mass sighting, a lot of you have seen it

1604
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:41,800
before. These are basically things I'm

1605
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:43,800
interested in. Of course,

1606
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:45,800
word of mouth by people who are very

1607
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:47,800
trustworthy amongst your community,

1608
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:49,800
friends or family

1609
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:51,800
members who you can

1610
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:53,800
trust. And they say they saw something. You know what I hoped

1611
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:55,800
for one day? So that people would just

1612
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:57,800
shut the hell up and really believe

1613
00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:59,800
that we are not alone. Yes.

1614
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:01,800
And that the truth is out there. Yes. It's really

1615
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:03,800
out there when you have

1616
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:05,800
thousands of these ships

1617
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:07,800
hover

1618
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:09,800
low, low

1619
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:11,800
over all the world

1620
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:13,800
cities. Yeah. But that's

1621
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:15,800
when we're probably screwed. Yeah, we'll be screwed.

1622
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:17,800
Yeah. Probably

1623
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:19,800
we're going to be so screwed and then happen

1624
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:21,800
shit. Yeah. But then people start

1625
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:23,800
to believe. Yeah.

1626
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:25,800
So as you can see, this

1627
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:27,800
podcast you're doing on this topic

1628
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:29,800
is not a very easy topic to handle.

1629
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:31,800
It's not. Yeah. Because there's a

1630
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:33,800
lot of branches out

1631
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:35,800
from the same topic. Lots of threads.

1632
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:37,800
And then the irony is that

1633
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:39,800
a lot of these threads come from only one

1634
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:41,800
country. It's not supported by

1635
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:43,800
many other countries. So sometimes you

1636
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:45,800
tend to ask yourself, is this really

1637
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:47,800
a very... Or distraction by the

1638
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:49,800
US. You know, is this very

1639
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:51,800
American thing or is it happening around the world?

1640
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:53,800
Yes. Like recently, right? When

1641
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:55,800
Biden ordered the

1642
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:57,800
so-called China balloons,

1643
00:57:57,800 --> 00:57:59,800
spy balloons to be shot down. Correct.

1644
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:01,800
And then after that, the pilots

1645
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:03,800
are saying that the DT can't tell what it was,

1646
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:05,800
blah, blah, blah. People started speculating.

1647
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:07,800
Maybe... Some people were saying

1648
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:09,800
also that... Were speculating also

1649
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:11,800
that the Americans

1650
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:13,800
did that as a distraction

1651
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:15,800
from certain things like

1652
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:17,800
Biden's having issues,

1653
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:19,800
right? The scandal that's happening. Yeah, correct.

1654
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:21,800
And blah, blah, blah. You know?

1655
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:23,800
And to take that... Or take them to just distract

1656
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:25,800
them from anything that the US government may

1657
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:27,800
plan to be doing. Yes.

1658
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:29,800
You know? And because Americans are

1659
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:31,800
so susceptible to these sort of fascinating,

1660
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:33,800
sensational stories that they'll

1661
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:35,800
be distracted, right? Yeah. So in American

1662
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:37,800
media, from what I know, they feed

1663
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:39,800
each other. It's like an ecosystem.

1664
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:41,800
So there is no third party

1665
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:43,800
kind of

1666
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:45,800
stand alone and say... You know,

1667
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:47,800
I mean, that sounds kind of plausible.

1668
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:49,800
Then finally,

1669
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:51,800
before we end, finally, we end the

1670
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:53,800
UFO episode. But you know, I would love to have

1671
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:55,800
some more chats with you about this.

1672
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:57,800
You're always welcome to come back to the studio.

1673
00:58:57,800 --> 00:58:59,800
Let's talk about

1674
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:01,800
TR3.

1675
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:03,800
Okay. TR3,

1676
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:05,800
it's the latest

1677
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:07,800
character in the Star Wars

1678
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:09,800
trilogy. No, I'm just kidding.

1679
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:11,800
Okay. TR3

1680
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:13,800
is a triangular object.

1681
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:15,800
Here we go again. Triangle.

1682
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:17,800
Triangle, okay. It's a triangle object in the first

1683
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:19,800
Belgian wave.

1684
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:21,800
There we see it on screen. In the 1990s.

1685
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:23,800
So a lot of

1686
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:25,800
people have said that this is a special project

1687
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:27,800
that is done by the, again,

1688
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:29,800
the US government in Area

1689
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:31,800
51. So you, wait, wait.

1690
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:33,800
So what you're saying is that that triangular

1691
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:35,800
craft that

1692
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:37,800
people have been seeing, like

1693
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:39,800
forever, is manmade.

1694
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:41,800
Get the fuck out

1695
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:43,800
of here, dude. So wait, so the

1696
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:45,800
Phoenix lights made up

1697
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:47,800
a triangular object, the second fleet,

1698
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:49,800
right? Could be

1699
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:51,800
their very own... Yeah, it's a US

1700
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:53,800
what they call it,

1701
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:55,800
special plane. But it's either stupid

1702
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:57,800
or ballsy of the whoever it is

1703
00:59:57,800 --> 00:59:59,800
in charge of that freaking program, if it's true.

1704
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:01,800
To fly over a

1705
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:03,800
major freaking city like Phoenix,

1706
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:05,800
right? Yes, correct. That's right.

1707
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:07,800
So they named this TR3

1708
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:09,800
because

1709
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:11,800
many enthusiasts there,

1710
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:13,800
they try to follow and see what

1711
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:15,800
developments they're doing for the latest

1712
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:17,800
I think, I would say,

1713
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:19,800
fighter planes or whatever.

1714
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:21,800
Like the B-52s previously and all that.

1715
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:23,800
Or the shape, you know. Not the B-52s, sorry. What's it called now?

1716
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:25,800
The freaking... The stealth

1717
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:27,800
bomber and fighter.

1718
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:29,800
So after the stealth bomber and fighter, the shape, as you can see,

1719
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:31,800
is really unique. It's triangular shaped.

1720
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:33,800
So then this is the next progression.

1721
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:35,800
Boomerang, yeah. Yeah, boomerang, yeah.

1722
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:37,800
So this is the one. And the

1723
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:39,800
other is the B-52.

1724
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:41,800
But come on, come on. Those...

1725
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:43,800
Like for example, the stealth

1726
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:45,800
bomber and fighter, right?

1727
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:47,800
Those

1728
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:49,800
aircraft look different. Yeah. But

1729
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:51,800
they were boomerang shaped, but

1730
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:53,800
they had jet propulsion engines.

1731
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:55,800
Yes, correct. But what I would

1732
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:57,800
like to say about this

1733
01:00:57,800 --> 01:00:59,800
triangular shaped craft

1734
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:01,800
is that it's got no sound.

1735
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:03,800
Yes, it's silent. It's completely silent.

1736
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:05,800
Yes. Right?

1737
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:07,800
What kind of propulsion does it work?

1738
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:09,800
If it's American,

1739
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:11,800
if it's truly the TR-3

1740
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:13,800
and built by Americans,

1741
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:15,800
right? How did that happen?

1742
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:17,800
Yeah. They say it's reverse

1743
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:19,800
engineering. They caught the craft

1744
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:21,800
in Roswell and many other places.

1745
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:23,800
Right? And then what they do is that

1746
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:25,800
they studied through the years, through the decades,

1747
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:27,800
of how this energy system

1748
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:29,800
works. So they found anti-gravity. So they found anti-gravity

1749
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:31,800
and they put it into this plane using

1750
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:33,800
black budgets. But how they discovered

1751
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:35,800
it, they don't work together as a group.

1752
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:37,800
They split the technology up

1753
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:39,800
to the various aerospace industries.

1754
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:41,800
Right. Some of them is owned by

1755
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:43,800
Robert Bigelow, which we forgot to mention,

1756
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:45,800
but we don't have time.

1757
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:47,800
It's about that ranch. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no.

1758
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:49,800
We are going to talk about that ranch.

1759
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:51,800
Sorry, man. It's going to drag on just

1760
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:53,800
a little bit more bare with us. But you got to

1761
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:55,800
listen about Skinwalker Ranch. Yes.

1762
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:57,800
So the technology has been split up. Bigelow?

1763
01:01:57,800 --> 01:01:59,800
Bigelow, you know. Who is he?

1764
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:01,800
Bigelow is a billionaire

1765
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:03,800
who basically likes to

1766
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:05,800
discover new sources of technology

1767
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:07,800
so that he can build his aerospace

1768
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:09,800
industry. He's something like

1769
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:11,800
Elon Musk.

1770
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:13,800
But how come that he's so little

1771
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:15,800
known in the world? He's

1772
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:17,800
little known because, again, I mentioned

1773
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:19,800
this defense contracts they give to them.

1774
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:21,800
So they split the craft up.

1775
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:23,800
This part of the propulsion goes

1776
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:25,800
to you. That part of the lights go to another

1777
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:27,800
person. But you do not know they come from a craft.

1778
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:29,800
They just say, I'll give you this award, the US

1779
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:31,800
government. I'll give you the award. You do

1780
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:33,800
for me and study and see what you can do from

1781
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:35,800
this material. So they

1782
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:37,800
break it down. That's how they build optic

1783
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:39,800
fibers and touch screens.

1784
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:41,800
Fiber optics. Sorry.

1785
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:43,800
So that's the story. So coming to

1786
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:45,800
Bigelow because I suddenly remember about the Skinwalker

1787
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:47,800
Ranch. So it's basically a

1788
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:49,800
ranch. Now, if you have a history channel,

1789
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:51,800
I would advise you to go and see.

1790
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:53,800
You will get to understand

1791
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:55,800
what is the Skinwalker Ranch.

1792
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:57,800
It's a ranch in America in Utah

1793
01:02:57,800 --> 01:02:59,800
where there's a lot of strange things

1794
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:01,800
happening.

1795
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:03,800
I don't know how to describe

1796
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:05,800
it. Geez, look at that shit, man.

1797
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:07,800
It looks freaky, man. It's not a haunted

1798
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:09,800
house, by the way. You see it's not a haunted house.

1799
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:11,800
It's a very big area.

1800
01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:13,800
What happens is that they find

1801
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:15,800
strange occurrences by

1802
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:17,800
scientists. That means they set up

1803
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:19,800
a lot of equipment across the

1804
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:21,800
whole ranch to capture temperature,

1805
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:23,800
radiation,

1806
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:25,800
to capture visual sightings. They see a lot

1807
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:27,800
of UFOs there. They see a lot

1808
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:29,800
of strange ops

1809
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:31,800
in the night.

1810
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:33,800
A lot of things break down suddenly.

1811
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:35,800
They found an object

1812
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:37,800
underneath a mesa,

1813
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:39,800
something like a rock formation, mountain formation,

1814
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:41,800
a hill formation, made of rocks.

1815
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:43,800
They find something underneath that. So it's an

1816
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:45,800
ongoing documentary,

1817
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:47,800
sort of documentary

1818
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:49,800
drama on history channel.

1819
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:51,800
So what happened? Okay, so Skinwalker

1820
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:53,800
Ranch, let me get this right,

1821
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:55,800
was started by Bigelow?

1822
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:57,800
No, Skinwalker Ranch,

1823
01:03:57,800 --> 01:03:59,800
what happened was it was just a normal ranch.

1824
01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:01,800
Sold to a couple.

1825
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:03,800
The couple then had strange things

1826
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:05,800
happening on the ranch.

1827
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:07,800
They saw certain things.

1828
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:09,800
So Bigelow came and says, I would like

1829
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:11,800
to buy over your ranch. Because of all these strange occurrences.

1830
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:13,800
Because they were selling it.

1831
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:15,800
They couldn't do the cattle mutilation and all that.

1832
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:17,800
So he came, he bought over the ranch.

1833
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:19,800
So he found that

1834
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:21,800
he could do something on the ranch by studying

1835
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:23,800
these strange phenomena. Because he believed that it happened there.

1836
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:25,800
So he brought in a team of scientists,

1837
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:27,800
professional scientists, and this is

1838
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:29,800
where they set up all these observation

1839
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:31,800
points and data observation

1840
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:33,800
points to find. But after a period of

1841
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:35,800
time, he sold it to another

1842
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:37,800
person, which is one of the biggest

1843
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:39,800
real estate person in Utah.

1844
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:41,800
So he bought it over, and

1845
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:43,800
what happened was that all

1846
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:45,800
the studies that they made, they had no solutions.

1847
01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:47,800
They could only record

1848
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:49,800
the incidences that happened there.

1849
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:51,800
But there was no explanation how it happened.

1850
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:53,800
Like vortex

1851
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:55,800
dropped in temperature

1852
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:57,800
during summer.

1853
01:04:57,800 --> 01:04:59,800
Sudden drop in

1854
01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:01,800
temperature of a certain place. It became

1855
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:03,800
like minus, very cold.

1856
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:05,800
So now this new

1857
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:07,800
team that went in, they found certain other

1858
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:09,800
things by using the latest

1859
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:11,800
surveillance

1860
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:13,800
technology. Ground penetrating

1861
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:15,800
radar, etc.

1862
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:17,800
Even balloons that can

1863
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:19,800
capture certain things. So they found even more

1864
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:21,800
anomalies in that area.

1865
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:23,800
So it's interesting because

1866
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:25,800
whenever the anomaly happens,

1867
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:27,800
they see something in the sky.

1868
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:29,800
That's where the UFO link comes in.

1869
01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:31,800
It's a flying object. It will just

1870
01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:33,800
dart off.

1871
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:35,800
For everybody to see, then it darts off.

1872
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:39,800
Wow. So this is like a

1873
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:41,800
hotspot. It's a hotspot.

1874
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:43,800
It's a hotspot for the paranormal.

1875
01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:45,800
Wow.

1876
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:47,800
Man, goodness me, man.

1877
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:49,800
Wow.

1878
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:51,800
So it's good to see that, that if you have

1879
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:53,800
subscribed to the History Channel,

1880
01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:55,800
you can see this ongoing.

1881
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:57,800
There's also lots of those.

1882
01:05:57,800 --> 01:05:59,800
Lots of stories, videos

1883
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:01,800
on YouTube.

1884
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:03,800
About Skinwalker Ranch, man.

1885
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:05,800
Well, that's about all we can do for this

1886
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:07,800
whole episode, man.

1887
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:09,800
Thanks so much. My goodness.

1888
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:11,800
Two Parties with Ignatius

1889
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:13,800
Bong. It's been, I mean, this

1890
01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:15,800
guy is a wealth of information where this is

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concerned. And honest to, honest to goodness,

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if we could certify this guy somehow,

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you know, as

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our own

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Singapore ufologist.

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He should be certified too because he knows a

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lot as well. Not as much as you,

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man. No, man. You know a lot, man.

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Not as much as you, man. I mean, I'm being schooled

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today. I'm being schooled today.

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Thank you so much again, Bong, for being with

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us. Anytime. This, you've been watching

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the Chris Hansen conversation with Ignatius

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Bong. And we've been talking about

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ETs. We've been talking about anything

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extraterrestrial for the past two

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weeks. And I hope you

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enjoyed this particular episode. I mean, I have

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had loads of fun.

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And do

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remember to please subscribe

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And we are also

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You can find the show

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So, make

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sure that you follow us, like us,

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and tell us what you think. And comment, please.

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You can even call me an absolute dipshit.

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Because, you know, I've been

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agreeing with lots of stuff. It's kind of amazing.

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And most people will say, Chris, you're so

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gullible. Maybe I am. But

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I find this so fucking fascinating.

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Until next time,

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this is Chris Hansen. I'll see you guys soon.

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Stay safe. And make sure

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if you see any bright lights,

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dark.

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Bye-bye.