But Bong's going to tell you what Immaculate
Consolation is. Oh, am I? Okay. Okay, I'm not
really ready to tell you what Immaculate... Hi,
and welcome back to the Chris Hansen Conversation.
This is the season finale of yet another long
season, and that's season five. And we've waited
this long to bring you... Asia's only UFO UAP
program in the English medium. And I think we're
still the only ones. This is UFO Reveal Asia
on the Chris Hansen Conversation. And with me
in studio, back with me for yet another season,
I have my resident ufologist. Ignatius Bong.
Welcome back, Bong. Thank you, thank you. Good
to see you, man. What have you been up to, bro?
Nowhere, actually. I've just been up a tree.
I've been in the forest. I've been hiking here
and there. I've been trying to, you know, there's
so much development in this topic. Oh, a ton,
man. Yeah, so I've been just like eating chips
and watching TV, you know, and then trying to
get all the stuff. You went back to Vancouver,
didn't you? Yes, I went back to Vancouver. And
it happened there. I went to Toronto. I went
to Montreal. And it's so surprising there because
the topics there are so, how do you call it?
Organic. I went to a bookstore. I saw the book
called Communion by Willis Tabor. I picked it
up and I said, I'm going to buy this. Immediately,
a group of people surrounded me and we had a
conversation about this. So they're very open
over there. So some of them could be greys. Or
the reptilians were there. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So it's very interesting. I was travelling quite
a bit. I also went to Stonehenge just to get
a bit of... Stonehenge is in the UK, bro. In
the UK. I went to the UK. Wait, wait, wait. So
you went from Canada over to the UK? No, I went
to the UK first. Okay. Oh, you went to the UK
first. And how was it like in Stonehenge, man?
Stonehenge was very cool. That period I went.
But there was a certain, I think, awe when you
look at the stones. You know, it's like, wow.
You know, I'm looking at something ancient. something
that there's an intelligence that designed this.
Did you feel any magnetic field? Not really.
I just wanted to go to the toilet. That's all.
It was so cold. Yeah. But it was a good day.
It was a very nice visitor center. So it's good.
Yeah, that's right. Okay. You were saying earlier
on that a lot of things have been happening,
right? As a matter of fact, a lot of things have
been picking up so quickly. We've never seen
so many things happen in such a short span of
time since January. That's right. the whistleblowing
on the UAP matter or UFO matter has been really,
really taking up speed. On top of that, I mean,
between the last episode that we were talking
about, you know, on Euphorus, on this show, and
now, so many things have occurred. There's just
a lot of stuff for us to update you guys on.
Yeah, that's right. You know, and we're just
about to get started doing that. So let's begin
with, this fresh topic and I'm going to say I'm
going to mention the title of this new of this
new thing that's been happening in the world
of ufology and then Bong will take over it is
called Skywatcher yeah that's right Skywatcher
okay but the name of it Skywatcher means I look
at the sky I watch the sky okay it's straightforward
as that Skywatcher so as what Chris has just
mentioned so many things have happened It's very
hard to keep track because everybody who has
credentials now is coming out to the market and
to the world to publicize the information that
they have. So as we try to capture and try to
understand what is happening, we just have to
really just put them in, I will say, chronological
order as to what is happening. So Skywatcher
was basically this incident by a new whistleblower.
We all know about David Grush. So he's a very
big military person that came out to testify
in Congress. So now anybody who says, oh, I don't
believe in aliens, I don't believe in UFOs, I
think now it's different. They say there's no
such thing as aliens, no UFOs. I think the whole
climate has changed because the American government
has already acknowledged and the Pentagon has
already acknowledged there are such things. Now
the topic is, who are they? What are they, right?
That's the topic now. So for those who are in
Asia, who are listening to this and you think
this is a crackpot story, I think you got it
all wrong. It's already changed, right? The climate
has changed. So Jake Barber, this is a new guy
that came out. He's a whistleblower. He claimed
to have retrieved, he's part of a military and
US Air Force. He worked as an aerospace mechanic
in the late 1990s and then he worked in an unofficial
capacity in the defense department for the intelligence
community in the US. Yes, quite a big thing to
just, you know, summarize. So he came out and
said he had retrieved what is known as now a
UAP, Unidentified Aerial Phenomena, or a UFO.
He says the size of an egg, a large egg. So when
this first came out, I burst out laughing, you
know, and I said, oh man, this guy is mad. You
know, how can you, you know, make such a declaration
that you caught an egg? It's just ridiculous.
I just burst out laughing. But as I went through
more study on it, I realized that actually there's
nothing very funny about it. Yeah, it seems like
a normal retrieval operation of anything for
that matter. Because he was working, it was basically
more like black ops for the intelligence community,
defense community. Yes. And then really, unofficial
capacity, as you mentioned. And when I saw the
video myself, it was an underslung from a helicopter.
And we're going to play you that short video
of this. So check this one out. This is, people,
this is real. You can see that it's something
that's underslung under the helicopter that's
being hoisted up. Let's slow this down to take
a closer look. That's an egg -shaped UAP suspended
from a 150 -foot long line. We're told the craft
is about 20 feet long. The egg suspended in a
cradle. And look how careful the pilot is as
they bring their precious cargo into land. Let's
freeze frame here to look at one of the clearest
images of a UAP ever taken. This is no blurry
light in a distant sky, the source of the footage
putting themselves at incredible risk to record
this UAP retrieval. Look at how perfectly smooth
the craft is, no markings at all, and no visible
means of propulsion or way to see inside. The
beautiful part about this is that it really is
shaped like an egg. Yeah. You know, and you can
tell that it can't possibly be doctored. Yeah,
I guess the source that it's coming out from,
News Nation, and also the person that's presenting
it, it's very difficult to say. Yeah, it's Ross
Coutard's show. And if you go further down, if
you see how the rope is being dangled down, there
are studies being made whether this was fake.
It's actually proven that in order to lift such
an object, there are basically specialists who
say that what they did in this video was correct
in the format of the ropes being spread out and
how it's wrapped around and how it's lifted up.
So the experts have already mentioned that, yes,
this is how you should actually do this. So they
did some screenshots. They saw the angle of the
string or the rope around the object. So they
said, you know, there's no way it can be doctored.
Jake Barber also said that during the time when
he was transporting the object over to who knows
where, to some airbase somewhere, there was a
connection he made. Somehow, that egg or whatever
was inside that egg established some kind of
communication with him. It was like what he would
describe as a psionic connection with the craft.
Let's play that video. To your feeling, are you
suddenly having a mental breakdown on the job?
No, I felt like something connected with me.
And it was so overwhelming that I began to cry.
Once it was just me and that object in between
the pick and the drop site. It was about 20 miles
in between. I felt like something was inside
of me. I felt like I was possessed by the most
beautiful spirit I've ever been possessed by.
Was it loving? It was loving. But there was a
sense of sadness at the same time. Had you ever
had an experience like this before? No, no. It
was a very feminine energy, I'll tell you that.
It felt like the spirit of God. but not in any
masculine sense that I had ever felt. It was
like, again, the feeling of my mother and my
daughter and beauty. And it wasn't like a soul,
it was like a frequency that I was connected
with. Was it scared? I don't know if it is a
thing. I'm still trying to figure out. why that
happened. I don't want to say that because I
have a pretty good idea of what's going on now.
And whatever that force was since that night,
it has stayed with me. Right. Wow. This is Jake
Barber at the interview with Ross Coutard on
one of America's mainstream broadcast stations
called News Nation. And this is before. This
was months ago. I've got to tell you guys, it
was months ago. And ever since that time, the
reason why we're raising this is because he started
this thing called, and it's a business, called
Skywatcher, right? And Skywatcher really is not
a frivolous thing. They're trying to collect
and collate data from a scientific perspective
and be the first ones to retrieve. new downed
UAPs and UFOs. Yep. So they're trying to race
ahead of the military to retrieve these things
and also to explore the skies. Anything you want
to add to that, bro? Yeah, okay. A lot of people,
when they first saw this clip, they had mixed
reactions. This comes also from the professional
ufologist view. Some people say he's lying. Other
people saying he's not. And there are still many
more people who say, I do not know what he's
talking about. Because he's bringing into this
subject field, a new kind of, it's not really
new. We have heard of this since the 1940s. But
from someone of his caliber and his rank to quantify,
I wouldn't say quantify, but solidify that there
is this thing called telepathy that's happening.
That's how they converse, how they share their
ideas and all that. So it's something very unusual.
for a person to disclose because it's something
that you cannot touch or you cannot, like I say,
quantify. Right. So it's very qualitative. So
this is where some people say, oh, Jake Barber
is a fake because this guy is just being very,
you know, very balanced in my approach. He's
fake because this guy is, you know, obviously
he's faking it. But again, to put himself out
in a field like this is a certain, I would say,
suicide because he's again of such a high rank
and to put himself out this way. he will get
into a lot of trouble with the American military.
So he started this thing called the psionic connection
with the craft. Like they say, they will talk
or somehow they can conjure and call up. So Skywatcher
was formed by him and what they did was basically
they have recovered video evidence. of diverse
shapes of this, they call it UAP. Right. But
I love the word UFO. Okay, UAP. And they use
a technique called a dog whistle technique. That
means a kind of way that they can actually blast
a very silent kind of a whistle. Right. And they
will actually approach the cameras. Let's take
a look at that. Kai, we have this video, psionic
program, the Jordan Jozak psionic program video.
I think that's the one. Okay. Do you believe
that a higher form of non -human intelligence
has visited this planet? I'm certain of that.
You're certain? How certain are you? 100%. I
mean, Jordan, that's a pretty bold statement.
Where does that certainty come from? That certainty
comes from my firsthand experience in what I
term a psionic exploitation program between the
years of 2005 and 2010, where I interfaced and
worked with non -human intelligence and things
like UAP directly. I mean, Jordan, that is an
incredible claim. For the viewer at home, what
were you doing in this program on a daily basis?
Yeah, so this would look like things that many
people would consider... you know, woo -wooey,
right? Like astral projection or meditation.
But ultimately, what we were really investigating
was how far could we stretch the balance of human
consciousness? Beyond that, how could we get
human consciousness to interface directly with
things like recovered materials and recovered
crafts? What I can tell you from the craft and
some of the different projects that we worked
on directly... is ultimately that they interfaced
with us. What I mean by that is my consciousness
could project into these craft and recover materials
and then access a suite of commands and essentially
capabilities to do various things, including
piloting. But ultimately, the story is not about
piloting some UAP with your mind. This story
is much more about What is consciousness? Why
can we interface with these things? And since
we're on that topic, Kai, can you also play the
one summoning the egg? This is Jake Barber. I
can make the egg show up. And we have. And we've
demonstrated it post -program. And we did it
in August. Oh, my God. In broad daylight. At
the moment we elicited the egg, the egg flies
by in dead silence, moving at 10 ,000 miles per
hour. Everyone likes to ask, why am I not afraid
that someone's going to try and silence me with
death? There are people that have died who were
coming out and who were speaking out on our activities.
Anybody you know? Yes. Can you say anything more?
No. Man. Mind -blowing, man. Mind -blowing. And
Bong was mentioning about, he was talking about
how Skywatcher came up with a definition and
categorizing different shapes of craft. And there's
nine UAP type that they have just divulged to
the rest of the world. And we're going to play
you that video right now. The nine UAP type.
We've been collecting UAP data for more than
five years with electromechanical signaling,
which we call our dog whistle. Generally speaking,
we see three to five different classes of UAP
per day during operations. After we turn on the
dog whistle, UAPs literally come to us day after
day. To make sense of our data, we had to define
a lexicon and we based it on flight characteristics.
We've broken the UAPs down into nine classes
or types. Some of these classes may be the same
UAP under different flight configurations, but
at this point, given their behavior, we're confident
they don't align with conventional or terrestrial
explanations. Each UAP class has different characteristics.
Some shimmer, some tumble, some spin. Some look
like they're alive and they just fly like a living
object in the sky. UAPs are extremely hard to
image. What is seen with the naked eye is generally
not what is seen under camera. The Class 1 often
spins, tumbles through the sky. The craft looks
like a black body. It appears to flash, pulse
multiple times per second. There appears to be
some kind of cloud or vapor around it. We've
seen Class 1s in formations up to 22, 23, flying
in different flight formations, different flock
formations. The Class 2 is the classic tic -tac.
We've seen it in groups of two to three, often
flying very erratically. We've seen these a couple
years in a row, and usually we see them in groups.
The Class 3, the blob, a pulsing, vibrating cloud.
There's something, maybe perhaps a cylinder kind
of in the middle that has a different light,
like a flame, and then it vibrates and pulses
as it moves through space. The Class 4 is your
orb. We've only seen it in infrared. seems to
only come during certain activities in conjunction
with perhaps the class one. We don't have enough
data yet to confirm. The class five we call the
manta ray. It seems to tumble and rotate as it
moves through the sky. Class six is bright star.
That one vibrates very, very fast. It literally
looks like a crystal in the sky. The class seven
is the jellyfish. It's probably about two meters
across. The head is purple and black in color.
And then it has tentacles. The class 8 we call
the Hornet. It looks very similar to the class
7, the Jellyfish, except for it's bigger. And
it's almost like a jellyfish carrying something.
And then the class 9 is the Egg. The class 9
isn't something we have a lot of data on. It's
very limited. We have it as Skywatcher during
our California event. It's an emerging class.
We have strong evidence that it probably exists,
but we don't have data to concisely describe
it. Wow, bro. That's a lot, huh? It's a lot,
man. Yeah. So when the news came out like that,
I think, yeah, it is something to pay attention
to. Yeah. Because it's something unusual. And
at the same time, you know, as more people have
traction in this, more participation comes in
from the public and private organizations. They
want to really find out what is this. Right.
Because the taboo has already been lifted up.
It means you can talk about these things and
people won't laugh at you. So with more people
coming in with their expertise, they have discovered
these nine shapes. Yeah, so the nine shapes,
once again, there's the tic -tac, the manta ray,
the jellyfish, which is quite new, actually.
Last year that we heard about the jellyfish,
because Jeremy Colbell took infrared pictures
of those, right? Yes, correct, yeah. The tetra,
the beam, the blob, the bright star, the hornet,
and the egg. But Skywatcher just added one more.
It's called the dumbbell. Really? A dumbbell?
Yeah. Okay. There's one more now and it's classified
a dumbbell. It really looks like a dumbbell.
Yeah. And since we're on this topic and also
still on the egg and the psionic connection and
the classifications right now from Skywatcher
on the types of UAPs, let's finish off the egg
issue with this latest, recent, very recent.
of both George Knapp and Jeremy Corbell on their
show, Weaponized. These guys are very, very seasoned,
decades -long worth of ufologists who've been
working on this phenomenon for ages. They've
got their own show called Weaponized. It's pretty
good. And these people are not quacks. We all
know that. Those of us who are into this subject
matter, we all know who these guys are. And they
just discovered this. through their own sources
about the egg. Let's play that video. This friend
tried to get it transferred to a government program
called OSAP, these acronyms. They tried to get
it over there so they could open up this egg
-shaped UFO. They breached the hull of it. They
were able to get inside of it. The head of the
DIA UFO program admitted it on our podcast. He
straight fucking said it. it's not headline news
oh by the way extraterrestrial technology we
got inside of it hold on so i just for our audience
that's listening george has dropped an atom bomb
because it was dropped in the book so audience
is just listening i'm going to read you something
beginning of chapter 9 at the conclusion of a
2011 meeting in the capitol building with a u
.s senator and an agency under secretary lekatsky
the only one of the book's authors present posed
a question but this is where it gets good He
stated, meaning you, Dr. Lukadsky, that the United
States was in possession of a craft of unknown
origin and had successfully gained access to
its interior. This craft had a streamlined configuration
suitable for aerodynamic flight, but no intakes,
exhaust, wings, or control surfaces. In fact,
it appeared not to have an engine, fuel tanks,
or fuel. Now, there's a next part, which I'll
read in a minute. But what this is, is you're
officially allowed to tell us that the United
States government has in its possession a craft
of unknown origin and you were able to access
the inside. Is that correct? The wording that
you read is correct. Ah, you're going beyond
the wording. No, I'm not. I'm not. I'm asking
you, did that meeting happen? And is it true?
And it's true. Okay, you're telling us, you told
us because you were allowed to tell us that our
government has a UFO in its possession and has
been able to access the inside of it, right?
Yes. I was allowed to tell you. Let me show the
back of the book. I know, I know. Hold up. George,
will you translate, George? All right, let's
try another tack. How do we know it's a craft
and not a doorstop? we accessed it it has no
engine it has no wings no no no fuel it doesn't
we don't know that it travels do we know it's
a craft or it's just a rock george you're you're
going into the further discussion that occurred
that day all right uh we can't we can't go there
but let me tell you we're going to try to cover
that in the future but it's it's delicate it's
it's it makes Why does the technology described
in here look primitive? Why is it delicate? Why
is this topic that the United States government
has a UFO in its possession and we've been reverse
engineering it? You've done admitted. Why is
it delicate? The details. I'm old school. I'll
use the term. I won't use the term adversary,
competitor as the way we describe. We are surrounded,
maybe not surrounded, but hopefully not so, by
our enemies. Jim Lekatsky describes in his recent
book of a year or two ago of how he was able
to see an intact craft and go inside of it, and
he couldn't recognize any kind of power propulsion
system inside of it. The four -star general described
being able to see that craft as well, touched
it. Said in all of his decades as a military
officer combatant commander NATO commander, it's
like oh, yeah This isn't anything that we ever
made and it's not anything the Soviets the Chinese
or any other Foreign country in the on the world
could even make It's just strange. It's just
really strange What do you think man? Well, this
is what I have mentioned before starting today's
discussion. There's just so many things that's
happening now. Yeah. Right. And everybody, I
think it's just, everybody's tripping to reveal
stories out. Yeah. To make the disclosure happen.
So those who are very new again to this topic
or just seeing this for the very first time,
these are some of the names you can actually
follow through and get more information, the
things that we mentioned. And then as you, as
we go. Through this, as you go through this or
as we talk more about this, you have to realize
that these are not new developments. All these
topics that you've mentioned has already been
investigated since the 1960s and 1970s by, I
will say, whistleblowers who do not want to be
named. But researchers have already mentioned
them in tons, hundreds and thousands of books
based on this. And does the, what they call it,
the story has actually, all these kind of stories
has already penetrated through the decades. I
think the biggest problem now is there's really
no oversight in America as to who's taking charge
of this topic. There's no government agency that's
in charge of them. So it's very haphazard, it's
very messy. And now you start to hear this very
high -ranked people coming up to do the disclosure.
I think personally, they are also very fed up
that nothing is done in the US government. I
personally feel it's not the US government that's
not doing anything, but it's because they don't
know what is happening. they are not in touch,
they have no knowledge that these things are
actually happening. They are so into their own
domestic politics that this just takes second
seat. I think that's kind of prevalent in almost
every country. Yeah. Including ours. Yeah, that's
right. Let's move away from the... and the egg
-shaped UFO and stuff. And move on to something
interesting, might not be related to UAPs and
UFOs, but as we all know, the ancient astronaut
theory, right? So I think there could be some
relevance to this topic. Let me just read this
out for you guys. Italian and Scottish researchers
claim they found a major discovery beneath the
pyramids of Giza. Potentially, Rewriting the
history of ancient Egypt. Using radar technology.
It's more than just radar, as a matter of fact.
It's also using synthetic aperture radar to image
images. It's an imaging technique capable of
penetrating the Earth's surface and use in geological
surveys and planetary exploration. By using that
kind of technology, the team led by Corrado Malanga
from Italy's University of Pisa, and Filippo
Biondi from the University of Strathclyde in
Scotland announced the findings of what they
described as a vast underground city stretching
more than 6 ,500 feet directly beneath the pyramid.
The researchers claimed to have discovered eight
vertical cylinder -shaped structures, referred
to as shafts, extending approximately 2 ,100
feet deep beneath the pyramids. That's crazy.
Now, we're going to play the video, just a short
video, just a very tiny one to give you an idea.
Under the Great Pyramid. Now, if you notice,
it's really long cylinders with what seem to
be like spirals. Yes. Like a spiral staircase
going all the way down. And some people have
alluded this to looking like, you know, fashion
after the helix, which is our double helix, which
is the DNA strand, right? How our DNA actually
looks like. And it kind of shaped like that,
as you see in the video. So, but someone, was
it debunked or something? Or somebody else came,
some people are not convinced. Yes. Basically,
this was revealed in March of this year, 2025.
And then there were some people very amazed because
this rewrites the history of mankind. The shafts
are like two kilometers down. Now, if you were
to say ancient Egyptians built this, I would
say, I think you better go and see a doctor,
a mental doctor, because it's impossible to dig
two kilometers down. eight shafts with spiral
staircases that leads down somewhere. Okay, personally,
right, if you do your mathematics, you try to
get a new team to do this, maybe a tunnel group.
Maybe they can do it with our current technology.
But you're talking about these people with stone
tools. I don't think they can do it. So this
is potentially a very big issue. Then it also
adds to the topic that we did a few seasons ago
about ancient aliens and we talked about the
pyramid for a bit. At that time of our discussion,
this news was not out yet. But I think it was
already discovered. But they had to very carefully
check all these, what do you call it, synthetic
aperture radar to ensure that they will not get
shot by the public. But then again, not all are
convinced. Like there's this guy called Professor
Lawrence Conyers from the University of Denver.
He called the claims a huge exaggeration. Okay,
stating that the technology used radar pulses
from satellite similar to how sonar radar is
used to map the ocean. cannot penetrate that
deep into the earth. Right? So then again, this
opens for debate. As we talk now, the debate
is going on. They will try to sort of try to
understand or try to debunk. Well, let's talk
about this just a little bit more. Imagine if
really, if it were true that there are these
eight cylinders that goes, the shafts that go
all the way down for, oh gosh. 2 ,100 feet, right?
It would beg the question whether a civilization
more advanced than the ancient Egyptians themselves
were actually there first. Yes. As you reminded
everyone a couple of seasons ago when we talked
about this topic, we did ask the question, hey,
the Sphinx, the head of the Sphinx is not original
to the body. It's too small and too new. The
body's older than the head. The original head
could have jolly well been a lion, right? And
would be a lot older than the ancient Egyptian
civilization. So would that have been the case?
Now, I'm just wondering, are they going to excavate?
Are they going to find out? about these shafts.
Yeah, the excavation actually is now controlled
by Egypt. So, of course, if you want to find
out more about this, it will take maybe decades.
Maybe another 20 years for the full research
to be done. But what we have mentioned just to
recap about the Sphinx, they found that a lot
of things were eroded along that time. But the
Sphinx was water erosion. So, water erosion,
it's very, very, it's a very... is very important
because it happened when the whole portion of
that desert was actually a forest and had a lot
of rain. So this thing was built during a time
when the place was not a desert. It was basically
before the Ice Age. Before the Ice Age. So that's
why you have theories from researchers like Graham
Hancock who pushes very heavily that there was
another race of humans or living beings. They
were smarter than us but they were wiped out.
It could have been us, but just that it was a
very smart, very clever humans compared to the
dumbasses that we are now. So this adds to the
mystery even more because Egypt, just three pyramids
alone, if you will make a study, it already has
so many things on its own just on the surface.
Now you are talking about something underground.
And it might lead to also another very long legend
that the Egyptologists and certain Egyptians
on record say it's a hall of records. That means
they have two... It actually goes down, the eight
structures, goes down to two cubic holes. Yeah,
holes. So they say they might actually conceal
things. Like a library, like archives. Yes, an
archive. Wow. Yeah, so very interesting to watch.
Then again, why is it linked to UFOs and all
that? Actually, it's just what we were trying
to follow up from our previous season, a new
development. So on this channel, whenever there's
a new development on what we talk about, we will
update you. We will update you, yeah. And speaking
of developments, as we started the program, today's
episode, this season's episode is called The
Age of Disclosure. I'm not trying to copycat
the actual documentary that's being, you know,
part one's already out, part two's being filmed.
It's also called Age of Disclosure. No, I didn't
think about that when I named or titled this
particular episode. But it is about disclosure
today. And it's coming in sick and fast. And
so right now, I'm going to play you a slew of
videos to show you guys what we mean by sick
and fast. These are updates for you, just to
keep you updated on what's been going on in the
world of ufology. And we're going to play the
first video. This one's going to blow your mind,
bro. This is when I saw it, I went gaga, man.
This is... an alleged and this is louis louis
alessandro play uh and he's the one covering
this topic and i think he brought this up the
congress as well uh the u .s congress a foreign
alien body it's allegedly a biological sample
removed from a u .s service member and submitted
for analysis This is possibly an alien implant.
Well, if you look, there's actually a piece of
the chip sticking out and what appears to be
these fibers that were moving on their own. And
then it looks like this chip or whatever this
is, this foreign object, is encapsulated by some
sort of biological material. Can we put up a
picture of it? Just a still shot of it. There
you go. this thing moved. Wow. Yeah, for those
in the audience who think that maybe this person
is just making it up, he's actually, he can't
make this up or he'll get sued or even killed
by the US military. Whatever he says has to go
through the Pentagon and they will give approval
of what he can communicate to the world because
he makes money, I guess, from talks like that.
But these are all approved information. Yeah,
he's got to seek approval from his masters because
he was the deputy director of what we call ATIP
in the CIA. So this guy is quite high up in the
intelligence services. So if you're going to
go, oh, he's a quack, I'll say, fuck off. That's
definitely not the case. But he has become quite
polarizing, you've got to say. U .S. Congress
is taking this entire matter very, very seriously.
Not just very seriously, the very fact that this
legislature is going to protect whistleblowers,
and now we are seeing each disclosure happening
because the amount of whistleblowers is becoming
out of the woodwork, right? And this has become
a real serious, serious matter in the US. And
I think it's creeping across the planet right
now. So this actually, this show, or this conversation
was held, I think last year. Yeah. But actually
it opened the doors. It really just opened doors
for people to come out. And then also, what if
you have just seen this whole thing, it really
puts everything in perspective of what we've
been trying to do here at CCB TV. to also bring
this awareness to Asia, to people who are watching
this show in the region. Maybe I say our traffic
comes from quite a bit of regional partners like
Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore and all that.
So, you know, brings an awareness that we are
also being very aware of these things and it's
our job, you know, it's our duty to actually
share this information. To make sure you guys,
you guys from, you know, in and around, our friends
from in and around the region, you know, at least
keep abreast of what's really happening because
usually Asians, as we always say, don't really
care about this topic, but we do. And we want
to make sure you begin to care about it as well.
Just to get you into the program, people. Now,
you know, it's no longer called UFOs. They're
called UAPs. And aliens are no longer called
aliens or even ET. They're called NHI, non -human
intelligence. So let's get into the program.
This is how things are being described today.
And it's become official. It is now linguistically
official in the, at least where the government
of the U .S. is concerned. They refer to UFOs
as UAPs. They refer to ETs as NHIs. We've got
some more videos. Now, don't get so upset, any
one of you out there watching the show, because
I know the video is kind of long. That one was
a long one because we want to give you context.
Now, the short ones are coming up. We got, again,
Bong, as I said, it's disclosure, right? Yeah.
And I'm going in chronology of disclosures been
happening. Now, you remember, towards the end
of 2024, the US especially, were inundated with
drones. Hundreds of so -called drones. Yes. Especially
over the state of New Jersey. Yes. And then at
the time, of course, the elections were happening.
And you know who, I'm not going to mention his
name, the orange buffoon sitting there, now sitting
down in that White House. said that this is crazy.
It goes against national security. It's a big
issue. We need to do something about it. Sleepy
Joe's doing nothing, right? And what has he done?
Well, he's come out to say bollocks. Yes. Now,
let's listen to what Ross Coulthard of the News
Nation have got to talk about. He went this far.
Ross went this far. Play that video, please.
Okay, I'm calling it. I think the drones are
anomalous. I think they may potentially be NHI.
I've had people from the intelligence community
who have asserted flatly to me that they are
Chinese or Russian drones. Bullshit. I don't
believe it. And I'm calling that out. Nobody,
and I've really milked all my sources, nobody
I can find has any evidence at all to prove that
these are foreign adversary drones. I don't even
think they're drones. Whatever they are, I've
spoken now to multiple people who've told me
they've seen these objects morphing. I can't
verify the authenticity of it, but I tweeted
recently about one that was hovering over a house
that somebody videoed. And it was literally,
it looked like two aeroplane cockpits a little
bit apart from each other. It looked like whatever
the hologram was that was being generated. It
hadn't quite worked. And it was hovering over
a house and drifting very slowly in a particular
direction. And whatever that is, it's not a conventional
aircraft. It's interesting because I asked somebody
about this at a relatively high level in the
defence community just this week. And they said
to me, Ross, if you were the US Air Force and
the White House, would you want to admit that
there are objects operating with total impunity
over the continental United States that we can't
track? We can't detect. We don't know where they're
coming from or where they're going to. We don't
know who's responsible for them. And more importantly,
we cannot bring them down. Would you want to
admit that? And the answer is no. And it's interesting
because more and more, I think it's a bunch of
A -type males in the US military who just can't
bring themselves to admit that despite the expenditure
of... trillions of dollars, the security and
defence and integrity of the national airspace
of the United States cannot be guaranteed. That's
the issue behind the drones. Whatever they are,
I suspect, yes, there have been some drones going
up and that's a matter of public record. Skywatcher,
for example, reported that some of the objects
that they saw were indeed sort of commercial
drones that somebody was putting up. But they've
also, as Jake told me yesterday, made it very
clear. The objects that they were seeing included
highly anomalous objects. And this is something
that John and Jerry Tedesco have picked up with
their Nightcrawler research laboratory. They've
gone out and they've actually looked at these
objects through their hyperspectral cameras and
their other optical and sensor devices. And what
they are recording is... anomalous. So the big
issue to me is not that these objects are anomalous,
it's why is the United States government, notably
the Trump White House, putting out a statement
that is egregiously false and misleading and
completely unsustainable in light of what Jake
Barber has said and in light of what New Jersey
police and other military continue to say to
me, that these objects are anomalous, they're
still there. They're still hovering and whatever
they are, they are not normal terrestrial vehicles.
Okay. What do you make of that, man? Yeah, man.
I mean, look, that guy talked so big before he's
swearing in, right? And right now, even he is
afraid? Yes. Ross Coulthard is, I think he's
an Australian journalist. Yeah. Right, and before
he went to News Nation. This guy... He's good
because he's very objective in his research.
This, don't take it from my words, but if you
study him as a journalist, he's very direct and
he gets to the chase. So whatever you just hear,
again, it's a very good summary of that situation
in the US, in New Jersey. Ross Hutter before
David Grush, right? For the interview with David
Grush. Yeah, he's the interviewer. Yeah, but
he was a skeptic. Now he's a complete believer.
Complete believer. Because I guess maybe the
facts are just too heavy for him. He's been traveling
the world trying to find out about these things.
So I was also very surprised that when Donald
Trump made the announcement that they were just
normal drones, it was like, because there were
videos, a lot of witnesses who saw these things.
Yeah. It's just like the case where we saw in
the US, which I totally forget the place, where
the huge saucer appeared. Suddenly I just, it
just. Who saw this? They debunked it with that
fake alien coming up and saying, oh, I'm the
one who did it. What's that place called? How
come I don't know about this? It's there. It's
the lights. They saw the lights in the sky. Oh,
Phoenix. The Phoenix lights. The Phoenix lights.
Getting old, man. It's the same thing as the
Phoenix lights. We were saying that, no, that's
nothing. It's rubbish flares. But it's not true.
Because... Like I said, as I always mentioned,
sometimes when you have one eyewitness, you can
doubt. If you have five, you can doubt. But when
you have the whole place, the towns and everybody
seeing it, I think that is something because
it really caused fear. If you really follow the
reports during that time, they were everywhere
and they were shooting videos and all that. And
then to say they're just normal drones. Yeah.
What he says is true. I guess maybe the A -type
male American military do not want to admit anything
because it shows their weaknesses. Yeah. You
remember the story about the Vandenberg Air Base?
Yes, I heard of that. You remember? It's a huge
spacecraft that landed on Vandenberg Air Base
and the aliens came out and there was a legit
meeting. Guess what, man? First of all, uh it's
it's this this disclosure thing is so crazy right
is this whole story is out in u .s congress by
the way during the hearings um to the point where
it is a new series on disney plus and hulu uh
ufo's investigation the unknown season two out
right now the six episodes and they actually
also covered the vandenberg air base now let's
take a look at this video in congress about that
incident tell the event that occurred at vandenberg
air force base certainly i've been waiting for
this for seems like my whole life and i literally
fell out of my chair they observed a very large
red square estimated to be almost the size of
a football field approach the base from the ocean
and hover at low altitude over one of the launch
facilities The radio transmissions started to
pour in. As it became closer and closer to our
position, it stopped and hovered right over the
coastline. There was no propulsion systems, no
lights, no audible sounds, and it just hovered
there. And then just all hell broke loose. There
was a lot of chaos. These are people I'd spent
years with, and they're not people that are easily
frightened or intimidated. And they were terrified,
and they were screaming for help over the net.
This object remained for about... 45 seconds
or so before darting off over the mountains.
It just shot away up the coastline. It seemed
like a million miles an hour, like it was shot
out of a cannon and then it was gone. I mean,
personally, I can't explain it. I've never seen
anything like it in my life. The way it hovered
to make no sound, to have no propulsion system.
Our aircraft don't do that. Whoa. Yeah. That's
a good series to watch. Yeah. Yeah. Now, I just
want to put in one thing. They're appearing a
lot over military sites. Very powerful military
sites. And I'm sure it is happening in Russia,
in all the big... Pretty sure, man. In China.
Because we don't hear about it. We don't hear
about them. Again, because communist country,
they don't really reveal such... Russia's not
communist. Okay, yeah, Russia's not. Then again.
But then again, they still operate that way.
Yeah. Because it's too close for comfort. And
it is something, my personal opinion, a cause
for concern. Is it? Yes, I feel. I feel that
they're just watching. They're triggering. They're
trying to see response rate. It's like before
I invade a country, I need to put up my scout
to check and see what's happening, how fast.
So the orbs, the smaller orbs are recon vehicles.
I think all these are recon. They take that.
They want to see how the flight. I don't know.
It's going to be in deep shit. That's the case,
man. Deep shit. Shit so deep, it shits quick,
man. I tell you, really, man. Yeah. Oh, boy.
And some more revelations have been occurring.
Dr. Hal Puthoff. UFO base in Australia. Can you
beat that, man? Almost close to home, huh? Yeah.
So apparently there's a UFO base in Australia
as discovered by the remote viewing project Stargate.
Let's play that one now, Kai. On a Joe Rogan
experience, man. One of our remote viewers. that
was really good, came up one day and said, I
was looking around and I think I found a UFO
base on Earth. It was during the remote viewing
era. And, you know, oh, my God, I've got to report
this to my CIA contract monitor. Do I want to
tell them that? So I did. And one of the places
he came up with some, but one of the places he
came up with was. Mount Zeal in Australia. And
so my CIA contract monitor says, well, I know
the station keeper, CIA station keeper out in
Australia. I think I'll call him and I won't
tell him why I'm asking, but I'll ask him about
Mount Zeal area. So he gave him a call and he
said, I'd like to ask you about that Mount Zeal
area. He says, oh, you mean where the UFOs were
always flying around? So I thought, oh, gee,
you know. Oh, wow. And he's also quite high ranking,
isn't he? Yeah, that's why today's video is a
bit unique. A lot of videos because I think it's
a lot of the videos were very well put and edited.
I'm so sorry, mate, if I'm really playing too
many videos. No, no, it's okay. This is very
important for people to watch. Yeah, I think
so. Because we only come on like once a season,
twice a season. And there's only so much we can
do. There's a lot of things that's happening.
You know, it's impossible to just talk like that.
Correct. So we want to bring you more news updates
to our viewers and listeners. And since, again,
to provide more updates, we've got something
as fresh as 12th of April. There is a sighting
by the U .S. Navy, and this was on a show with
Chris Cuomo. Jeremy Corbell is the guest, and
let's play that one. Joining me now, investigative
journalist, co -host of the Weaponized podcast,
my friend Jeremy Corbell. The floor is you, Jay.
What do people need to know? Yeah, man, this
is an interesting case. There is power in military
footage. It's few and far between that we get
great sensor data on something that is truly
anomalous. And that's what we're seeing here,
backed up, of course, by the eyewitness testimony.
You know, these are this ship is one of the most
technologically equipped ships. But additionally,
this is a senior ranking Navy official who I
believe will end up coming forward. They saw
these craft. coming out of the water at least
one of them coming out of the water that's transmedium
this is in the combat information center also
they saw four of them in total they saw them
on radar then they picked them up in thermal
that's why it looks black and white but if you
look at a plane through that system you see wings
the tail exhaust rotors all sorts of heat signatures
you're not seeing that here so again it was tracked
on radar tracked on thermal there was a can Kind
of a synchronized, coordinated, instantaneous
departure described to me and George Knapp by
the firsthand witnesses. This is really reminiscent
of the 2004 Tic Tac UFO where Commander David
Fravor, who testified in front of Congress, chased
a UFO for the United States military. Cats out
of the bag. Sailors are seeing stuff. And now
we have more evidence. How big and do we have
stuff like that? Yeah, no, everybody says we
don't have stuff like that. Don't take my word
for it. Commander David Fravor testified in front
of Congress. We didn't have technology like this
in 2004. We do not have technology like that
now. We also wouldn't be testing, you know, kind
of black budget technologies in these warning
areas right off the coast of San Diego. This
has been going on for decades, if not centuries.
We don't have technology like this. But take
the word of people that testify in front of Congress
who know. All right. Wow. OK, so things are heating
up and they're heating up some more. David Grush,
the first whistleblower we ever heard of that
appeared in front of the U .S. Congress in 2023,
claimed that the Pentagon was operating UAP retrieval
programs. So when he made those claims in June
2023. And he also said, of course, hidden from
lawmakers and the public and from Congress. And
then the House Oversight Committee was formed
on the issue of UFOs and UFPs in July of 2023.
Now, Grush and others who said that they were
former members of the retrieval program, they
were all testified as well. Now, on March 26th
this year, 2025, Some lawmakers are hoping for
more transparency on UAPs, as David Brush now
has got a new role in Washington, D .C., in the
new Arrow program, right? He will be the senior
advisor for Republican Representative Eric Burleson,
helping him with issues related to UAP, and will
hold that position for a four -month period.
And the last... hearing in Congress was held
on November, 2024. So this is where we're going
to play you some excerpts of the importance of
the juicy bits of what happened in Congress.
First one is the breaking news that DOD, are
they creating hybrids of human and non -human
genetics? And let's play that one. For five minutes
of questioning. Thank you, Madam Chair. Now that
we have all been cautioned in this committee
hearing that the mention of Pentagon's Immaculate
Constellation Program could put us on a list,
well, I already find myself on many lists, I'm
sure. So I speak my mind often, so why not just
keep going with it? May as well just go all out
and say it. The earth is flat. Birds are government
drones. And we've never said on... foot on the
moon, and Joe Biden received 81 million votes
in the 2020 election. So let's just see how many
lists we could get on here today. But Mr. Schellenberger,
I wanted to ask you, I think I understand from
this hearing that you would agree that classifying
information like this is not in the best interest
of the people. Is that correct? Yeah, I mean,
with the caveat that, of course, I would support
classification necessary to protect secrets essential
to national security, but I think it's pretty
obvious that there's over -classification. Over
-classification, yes. And so in most instances,
if they can't tell us what, do you think at some
point they'll at least tell us why? You know,
President -elect Trump has repeatedly committed
to greater transparency, both on the UAP issue,
on... on JFK files, on COVID origins, and many
other things. So I think that we need to make
sure that the next administration is held accountable
for that. Agreed. And this is for all four of
you. Yes or no, please. I have many questions
I want to get to. Are there any known instances
of recovered materials or technologies that are
not of human origin and may be connected to any
advanced bioscience defense programs within the
USG? I don't know. I wouldn't be able to answer
that, ma 'am. I don't know. I don't know. Okay,
so there are rumors that have come up to the
hill of a secretive project within the Department
of Defense involving the manipulation of human
genetics with what is described as non -human
genetic material potentially for the enhancement
of human capabilities, hybrids. Are any of you
familiar with that? Yes or no? No, ma 'am. I
am not, ma 'am. I am not. No, ma 'am. Okay, I
would like to know, with immaculate constellation,
how does this relate to UAP activities, Mr. Schellenberg,
in oceanic environments? Are there any instances
where the Navy or other marine time... have encountered
UAPs that could not be explained by known technology
or natural phenomena. Yeah, the Megalithic Constellation
covers both terrestrial and oceanic, and there's
actually a number of cases described in the report
that occur in the ocean. And do you believe that
there is a concerted effort by the Pentagon to
keep Congress out of the loop regarding these
UAP activities, specifically in our waters? Yes.
I think it's about 5 % of our ocean that's actually
been... studied in detail by man, and we've studied
more of space than we had of our own oceans.
And so are there any accounts of UAPs emerging
from or submerging into our water, which could
indicate a base or presence beneath the ocean's
surface? I don't know about a base, but as I
mentioned, I had a different source entirely
describe this pretty extraordinary footage that
exists of an orb coming out of the ocean and
being met by another orb. Some would say that
there's multiple hot spots where we see frequent
activities. So in your investigations, have you
come across any data or visual evidence like
sonar readings or underwater footage of these
UAPs? I have not beyond what's in the report.
You've written about UAPs not only in the air
but in underwater. Are there any specifics on
what you've learned about the UAP activity in
our oceans? Particularly, have you spoken with
sources who have provided any evidence or eyewitness
accounts of these UAPs interacting with our naval
forces or being detected by our underwater surveillance
systems? nothing beyond what's in the report
and then the the specific case that i mentioned
with the orbs and so this report says it all
there's there's no other information that we
are aware of um regarding the activity within
our waters i have other sources that are have
told me that have shared a significant amount
of information but they're not comfortable with
me sharing at this point Okay, are there any
technological capabilities observed in these
oceanic UAPs that seem to defy our current understanding
of physics or our engineering capabilities? It
seems like they all do. Yes, I would agree with
that. And my time is up, but I do appreciate
your bravery, your courage for coming here and
speaking today. And it seems like there's still
some questions that we need answers to, and we
will not relent until we get those to the American
people. Thank you all. Thanks, Kai. Well, imagine
that, man. In Congress, they're actually asking
the questions. Yes, correct. So, I mean, for
the viewers out there, right? The general public
who think what we're talking is shit, right?
I think it's not. Exactly. That's the reason
why I want to show. Yeah, you got to see. I think
maybe you're not aware. But this is the American
government. Congress, American government is
like the PAP asking. someone, you know, sorry,
not PAP, the government asking somebody, you
know, like, it's a very serious topic. And I
mean, I mean, you think about this, man. I mean,
US Congress actually asked a question about the
possibility of underwater submerged objects.
They're asking, unidentified submerged objects,
which is USOs, asking about whether they are
hybrids. of human and non -human genetics. Correct.
And then you saw the responses of four of them
there, including Luis Elizondo. Three besides
him went, no, I don't. No, I don't. No, I don't.
He went, I wouldn't be able to say. Yeah. Correct.
Which is already a given. I wouldn't be able
to say. Yeah. He may not have the green light
to say. Correct. No, it's real. These things,
you know, that's why... Yeah, man. This topic
is... It's not something that's plucked out of...
That's the reason why I singled out that video.
Can we also play the next one also at this...
This is in November 24 at the last congressional
hearing. So, what we saw earlier on and this
next one that we're playing where Representative
Ogles gets rounds of applause at the hearing.
Mr. Ogles, you're just in time, babe. I will
recognize you for five minutes of questioning
before we head on out today. come on ogles well
thank you all for being here and madam chairwoman
i out of breath because i sprinted to get here
but uh this is an important hearing um i think
we all know that there's something going on mr
uh elizondo based on your knowledge of uap sightings
do you believe it's fair to say that they're
especially common near nuclear sites Yes, sir.
Mr. Congressman, I absolutely am convinced of
that, as are my colleagues inside the government.
And the reason why I pose that question, and
this has been one of my talking points from the
beginning, is, you know, Oak Ridge is in Tennessee.
The so -called weather balloon that drifted,
that we now know was controlled, it passed near
Oak Ridge. It obviously is a sensitive site,
both of interest to our adversaries and to whatever
else this is. Because we know that at military
installations, at sensitive locations, such as
nuclear facilities, that we're seeing this take
place. So the question is, what is it? Do you
believe they've caused an irregular activity,
and why might they be interested in those sites?
Sir, in some cases, actually regular activity.
You'd be surprised. There's actually documentation
right now that's been submitted. It's not just
Oak Ridge. It's Savannah River site, SRS. It's
also Los Alamos. A lot of our sensitive R &D
locations appear to be under some sort of surveillance
and monitoring. Why? Well, because a lot of innovation
comes out of those areas. A lot of new technologies,
a lot of, if you will, disruptive technologies
that we use for our national defense originates
out of those locations and advanced concepts
in physics as well. So if I was doing any type
of reconnaissance, even on a foreign adversary,
that's a great target to start with. Sure, and
again, this has been one of my talking points.
I do have questions. What role might the Department
of Energy or its subsidiaries or affiliates have
in this type of technology or possessing this
type of technology, whether it's ours or others?
Mr. Guyudet, I think your testimony has been
pretty clear, but would you please reiterate
that do you believe UAPs pose a threat to pilots?
Excuse me. Yes, sir. Absolutely. They were threatening
Navy pilots during the exercise that my people
were involved with in 2015, and it's my understanding
they're risking pilot safety, commercial and
military, today. Well, considering, and I understand
that there's a need in some cases to keep certain
technologies secret, but you believe that it
is posing a threat to our personnel, correct?
Yes, sir. So I think it's reasonable to conclude
that if there is a threat to our personnel who
are serving our country faithfully, that there
be oversight. 100 % Congressman. And in fact,
that's the one thing that we've not talked about
enough during this hearing is the fact that the
government executive branch not sharing with
Congress what it knows about UAP infringes on
your legislative and oversight responsibilities
to such an extent. That's very concerning. I
mean, what else are we, if you look at national
security or intelligence or foreign affairs or
appropriations, you all have oversight and legislative
responsibility regarding those. This UAP issue
may be the greatest issue of our time, and it's
being hit from you. Well, I mean, and to your
point, I think we've seen over the decades that
we have certain adversaries like China, like
Russia. that technologically speaking are not
as advanced as us, that they lack some of the
lethality that we have, and that we've seen that
they've gone after our technologies and in some
cases succeeded, in particular with missile technology.
And so again, my concern, whether this technology
emanates from us or otherworldly, that we know
that we possess it. And where's the accountability?
Where are the stopgaps? What are the guarantees
if this were to fall in enemy hands that it isn't
immediately weaponized against us? And I'll say
this, it is clear from my experience and what
I've seen that there is something out there.
The question is, is it ours? Is it someone else's?
Or is it otherworldly? And Madam Chairman, I
would posit that as the legislative body, as
the regulatory body, we must know and anyone
who prevents us from gaining access to that information
i would consider that criminality because we
have u .s personnel who may very well be in harm's
way all right there you go yeah i mean this is
the guy saying this criminality so it's like
you know he's throwing the gauntlet down right
i mean as a as a congressman. That's November
2024, brah. Now we're talking about what happened
in April of 2025. This is where we will show
you the video of Congresswoman Luna and what
she asked in Congress. Thank you. I will now
recognize Ms. Luna for five minutes of questioning.
Mr. Elizondo, to your knowledge, can you name
the country and around time frame that the first
back -engineered UAP program started? Ma 'am,
unfortunately, I would not be able to have that
conversation in public. Can anyone on the panel
name that? I cannot. None of you? Okay. This
next question is for Mr. Gallaudet. To your knowledge,
have any USOs ever outpaced our submarines? Yes,
ma 'am. At what magnitude? I don't have the exact
speed, but, again, a witness came to me, a credible
former submarine officer who observed it on sonar
data, and this was in the 80s in the North Atlantic
during a storm, and it outpaced his submarine
by orders of magnitude. Are you aware of any
hot spots that currently exist off our shores
in North America? Not with sufficiently credible
data, ma 'am. Okay, we've heard reports of there
potentially being hot spots, maybe entry and
exit points. Have you heard of any of that? I
have not, ma 'am, but my colleague here, Mr.
Elizondo, does discuss some USO activity that
he's observed in certain DOD databases. Mr. Elizondo,
in regards to these aircraft being piloted by
whatever they might be, non -human biologics,
are you, would you, agree that it's likely that
they are being piloted by some mind -body connection?
Ma 'am, I think it is safe to presume here that
they are being intelligently controlled because
some cases seem to anticipate our maneuvers,
and in other cases they seem to... I came across
an email where the word stocked was used in a
very secure email between Navy officers discussing
their ships. uh being pursued by a uap in our
previous panel we had grush and he had testified
to say that some of these were interdimensional
beings can you speak on that at all Ma 'am, I'm
not qualified, certainly as a scientist or otherwise,
to speculate points of origin. I looked at everything
from a scientific perspective. So if you look
at, for example, instantaneous acceleration,
which was one of the observables of the program
that I belong to, AATIP, the human body can withstand
about 9G forces for a short period of time before
you suffer negative biological consequences.
blackouts and ultimately redouts and even death.
Comparison, our best technology, the F -16, which
is an older platform, but one of our most highly
maneuverable aircraft, manned aircraft, made
by General Dynamics, can perform about 17 or
18 G -forces before you start having structural
failure, meaning that the airframe begins to
disintegrate while you're flying. The vehicles
we're talking about are performing in excess
of 1 ,000, 2 ,000, 3 ,000 Gs. So are you... I
guess, would it be safe to infer that they're
living craft? You know, I'm not prepared at this
point to state for the record is something alive
or not, because even that definition is there
was a time in science we thought that life required
oxygen. And we now know that's not true. There
are anaerobic bacteria that's thriving. oxygen
uh environments that lack oxygen um and also
same with photosynthesis when i was in college
i was told every everything is derived from photosynthesis
uh as a form of energy um in reality that's not
true there are things that live off of chemosynthesis
so we're constantly have uh having to reevaluate
our understanding of what what the definition
of life is um Do any of you ever come across
reports from people that claim to have firsthand
experiences with these entities, whatever they
might be, or these aircraft, and then as a result,
whether or not they're religious, find that these
things will automatically disappear? Anyone?
This is open to any of you on the panel. So just
real quick, because I'm running out of time.
Lou? Ma 'am, I've always been a nuts and bolts.
kind of guy when I was at AATIP. I was focusing
more on the performance characteristics and less
on the potential occupants. Okay, the reason
I ask is because it seems like just based on
our conversations that we've had people that
say that there are good and bad of whatever these
things are. And so my concern from a national
security perspective is, is A, that true? B,
are you guys hearing reports of that? And C,
I think moving forward in regards to technology,
Mr. Gold, if you can answer this real quickly,
some of these aircraft, it seems that they are
operating off of energy that we don't currently
have. But just yes or no, in your opinion, if
we were able to obtain that, would that impact
humanity for the better or negative? would certainly
save us some money on funding on Artemis. Definitely.
And this is a national security issue that if
there is such technology out there, we're not
the only country that might have access to it.
We don't want to be on the wrong end of technological
surprise. Okay. Thank you guys for your time.
Wow. She brought out everything, man. Including
about, you know, very steady. She knows what
she wants. Yeah. Including about the energy sources
stuff, right? And whether or not the craft's
alive. Now, we have to remember, Bong. Before
all this, they got into a skiff. Now, again,
a skiff is a soundproof, bug -free, and no outside
interference where we're bugging and trying to
eavesdrop, right? It's an eavesdrop -free room
where it was all these, I think more were probably
divulged to Congress, to the people in Congress
that's involved in this hearing, right? And because
all we're hearing, these things we're hearing,
right? It's like... what Bob Lazar said that
the craft that he was working on is actually
organic it's actually alive and now you have
a congresswoman asking that during the hearing
and the best part she's a republican Yeah, I
mean. You know, but of course, one of the better
looking Republicans. Yeah, she's quite hot. She's
hot, but she knows her stuff. She's like the
Luna on the Luna. I mean, it's like the Luna
Moon. The Moon, man. So she's good. I mean, she
really takes the bull by the horns, like they
call it. And also, I think she was also appointed
by Donald Trump to head an investigation that
will also happen around this period. Yeah, in
2025. I mean, this year. So, a SCIF meeting.
with Grouch and a lot of other things that will
happen. So it's very interesting because she's
basically leading the charge. And then there
was also a sort of a, I wouldn't say a disclosure,
but it's a meeting that we had, I think a few
days ago, which is very interesting. Yeah, correct,
correct. And that meeting, actually, we're going
to play right now is a round table that was just
held on April 30th with this guy named Dr. Eric
Davis. He's an astrophysicist. And he's also
got access to a lot of special access programs.
So the audio is a little bit off, but we did
our best to clean it up. And this is a very short
video. So just listen to this bit with the congressman
asking the question. Are they multiple species?
What was their size? And they're usually on a
crab. They're typically the molded species, people
who are degrazed and molded. People who are caught
to not reptilians and insectoids and stuff, but
they're reptilian or insectoid. It's an example
to the precision of that topical insect kind
of cheating. Because they have a hand and four
limbs and a torso. Is that large? Small? Human
-sized, human -scapable. having your crew. Well,
the greatest end of the movement from investigating
the crash and corollary issue is this misnade
the crash crosswalk instead of crashing crosswalks.
Those were free agency booklets. And the Nordics
are typically human -sized. I drove probably
six feet tall. And same with the people who label
reptilian and insect worker roughly. That tough
type shit. I haven't heard anything about if
they set a great team. Yeah, okay. I'm sorry
about the audio, man. But that is really after
cleaning up. Yeah. So can you imagine the original?
Because I think someone, I don't think that was
supposed to have been recorded. I think someone
was recording it, you know, and, you know, that's
why it sounds like this. Just to give you the
idea, the guy was asked a question, Eric Davis
was asked a question by the congressman, how
many species are there? And he actually fingered
four. Now, four would be the greys, the nordics,
the reptilians, and the insectoids. I think for
people here, I mean, this is the part where you
say, oh, he's so fringe, man. Yeah, yeah. But
how can it be fringe anymore? It's in fucking
Congress. Yeah, it's Congress. It's a congressman.
Yeah, and it was, all these things are done on
the oath. Yeah, correct. You know, and this is
a round table, no doubt, but you are going to,
if you lie to a congressman in a congressional
thing, you are fucked. It's a federal offense
in America. So this guy's saying this with a
lot of honesty that we are the four. But of course,
Stephen Greer says it's more than that. Much,
much more than that. But I suppose what this
guy knows, at least what he is saying, he knows
the four. So again, the Nordics, there's actually
most human looking like us. Followed by the Greys.
Well, we all know who these guys are. Oh, this
one. This one is... quite grey, actually. Yeah,
quite grey. Yeah, he's Zeti Reticulum. Again,
here we go. E .B. Oh, Ubi is back. It's Ubi.
And the third one is the reptilians that can
actually morph into looking like, what's the
word? They're skinwalkers, right? And then you've
got the insectoids, the people that look like
insects. Yeah, you know, a long time ago, we
had, in the 1980s, we had a movie called V. Yeah.
Do you remember that? Oh, yeah. It was a... I
don't know. I don't know whether it's part of
the disclosure process where they, you know,
these reptilians came. They're basically these
four beings, the greys, the rays, the Nordics
that look like Scandinavians. Very pretty, very
handsome, quite tall, like me. And then, the
other one is the reptilian race. And of course,
the insectoids that look like praying mantis.
When I first heard about these two cases of the
reptilian and especially the praying mantis,
I laughed my head off. It was like, ridiculous
to the max like I never knew people can create
stories like that you know until it came up more
and more and more and then I realized that actually
if you were to go to different let's say planetary
surfaces where they evolve right we can we are
basically evolved from apes yeah I believe in
that right so they could have been involved from
reptiles or Correct. And to their current state.
Correct. So, but the fact is that there's so
much eyewitnesses, right? And these eyewitnesses
are not just making up stories because it will
just put you, you will lose your job immediately
when you're found out. So, Eric Davis, this person
that made this disclosure or opened up at the
UAP Disclosure Fund, they call it, a few days
ago, is basically putting his neck out. And I
think he also has a sense of frustration. To
really share what he knows about it. Yeah. Well,
with that, we're going to close up on what's
happened in Congress so far. The next hearing
for Congress on UAPs will be held on May the
12th, 2025. Let's go to something more regional
right now. Now, I found this. Now, unfortunately,
I waited to this time, well, we're filming this
to show this. Someone in America spotted it.
and put it up on YouTube. I spotted it while
going through those videos. And then I found
out a few other things that that guy didn't spot.
This was during, and sadly, at this time of shooting,
His Holiness Pope Francis has already passed
away. But this footage was taken in Singapore
during the, well, just when the papal visit ended
with Pope Francis. In the aircraft, there's backing
out the gate at departure. Okay? And this is
where I circled the sky. Please, everyone watching
this, check out the circle and see what I've
spotted. That's the Pope Francis' aircraft. and
an object appears in that circle it's a glowing
object okay No, that's just part one, yeah? Now,
let's play the second vid. Look into that circle.
Just look at that circle. Of course, you hear
a signal in the background. If I'm not mistaken,
Kai, there are two vehicles there, right? In
the sky? There's two right now. Because my screen
that I'm looking at right now is quite far away.
So I can't really tell. You got to tell me, guy.
Ah, so it's split into two crafts, right? One
craft split into two. Okay. Well, at this point,
okay, it's split into two right there. Okay.
there okay can we play the third video then now
this is where it gets crazy man this you see
the blue arrows i got on the top now follow the
blue arrows from the blank circle you're gonna
see this object speed off so fast Okay, what's
going on? It's over? Okay. Too far away for us
to see. Okay, it was so quick. Can we play, can
we just put up the static picture, please? There
you go. This craft had a secondary one that split
away from it and it sped off like that. I could
capture on a screen grab. Now, What I did of
usual, I picked up this thing and I blew it up.
And of course, did a lot more filtering. And
then this is how it actually looks like. Can
we play the sphere, please? It's an image. Yep.
There you go. That. Is the object. Now. Having
seen. It really looks. Like an egg cube. Yeah.
And. Notiza. Is. There's like a square. Outside
of the cube. It's like inside a cube. Now. A
couple of seasons ago. I had Douglas Anderson
in the show. My UFO magnet. Yeah. And. He sent
me a video of the craft that was outside on this
balcony, right? And I blew that one up. I blew
it up. And it looks exactly like that. For those
who are watching in from around the world, yeah,
you just witnessed something from Southeast Asia.
Singapore. Singapore. Right at Changi Airport.
Yeah. And also on the... On the show, we're going
to give you something that a Reddit user spotted
outside his home window in Singapore. Now, I
thought maybe it was the USS. But then it started
to move erratically. Sorry, not USS, the ISS.
I was just wondering. Yeah. Thinking about Star
Trek or something. Yeah, great. What do you think,
man? It's not going in a linear fashion. You
know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Actually, we would
like to have a lot more videos like that. You
know, if viewers who are... who see this kind
of things, please do send us. Yeah, do send it
to us, you know, and we'll put it on the show.
And also this one, but this is 2019. This happened
in KL, in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Now, I don't
know whether it's fake or not, but you check
it out. You tell me, bro. Okay. See that shadow?
Okay, guy. That's huge, man. You think? That's
a very huge craft. It is very huge, but do you
think it's real? I don't know, man. I don't know
how to... I don't know whether to believe that
or debunk, but obviously he took it from, I think,
a helicopter. Seems that way. I thought so too.
Yeah, because I... You hear the rotors, right?
The rotors, yeah. And it's shaking. Shaking,
yeah. Now, never is open to debate, but... for
those who are seeing this, if you happen to have
any more footages, please just send it over to
us, man. Yeah. Because sometimes things like
that happen suddenly and then you can't really,
you don't even, you're not aware that it's there.
I give you, I give you the email address. You
can send it over to ccbtv2023 at gmail .com.
Once again, send your videos, footages of anything
crazy you've seen. in disguise, or even online
if they've landed in front of your garden or
your front lawn, just email over to ccbtv2023
at gmail .com. Now, we're going to end the show
right now, and Bong will tell you more what is
Immaculate Consolation, because we'll leave you
with his latest, craziest whistleblower. Craziest.
See the way I do my hands. reminds you who gotta
stop doing this shit man yeah um it is uh it's
a very long video but i'm not playing that the
whole video on the show go check out jeremy cobell's
podcast called weaponized um and it's about the
latest whistleblower and uh it's gonna blow your
mind man we just play you a little short exhibit
at the end of the show but bong's gonna tell
you what immaculate consolation is Oh, am I?
Okay. I'm not really ready to tell you what Immaculate...
Okay. Immaculate Consolation is a central depository
where whoever these people are, DIA or Deep State
or whatever they are, they collate information
and data on UAPs, UFOs, and put it into a central
deposit. And then you start the reverse engineering
program. Yeah, correct. It was actually suddenly
found out by this whistleblower while he was
scanning through because there was no classification
there. It was accidental. Accidental. He went
in. Then he saw a lot of, he saw a banner that
identified as the Immaculate Constellation. What
is this Immaculate? So it's basically an unacknowledged
special access program. Yeah. Right. So it was
actually created in response to Louis Alessandro
A. Tip. revelations in 2017 right so basically
incidents are documented in this what we're going
to see I think will be a very interesting one
but the mission basically is to basically you
know talk I mean this document talks a little
bit about orbs and anomalous objects found and
about 15 slides so he actually saw it but he
was very angry this whistleblower because there
was basically no oversight no one is actually
looking at this there is no, I mean, they're
basically lying to the American public. And he
did say that for him coming out, he's at risk
of being, of being imprisoned for life or even
executed. Executed. So he really came out, there
was no blanking of his face, there was no, nothing.
He was out in full person with his voice not
being masked. Yeah, correct. And he was on the
show for an hour plus. But since we showed the
black triangle, supposed UFO, UAP, hovering over
the capital of Malaysia just now is appropriate
because we're going to end the show with this
new whistleblower on Weaponize on Jeremy Corbell's
podcast and it's entitled Black Triangle hang
on before we play that first of all thanks Bong
for being on the show again and I will just tell
you this is has been a great great season It
has been a fantastic season five. Thank you very
much for spending time with me and with my guests.
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can tell you right now, we started work on season
six. And we're going to take a season break.
But of course, as we were taking a break, we're
still planning production for season six. So
we hope you enjoyed the Chris Hansen conversation
so far in the year 2025. We're working hard to
bring you some more content. Stay safe, everybody.
Can't wait to see you guys again. Right. And
on behalf of Bong and of Kai, we'd like to say
stay safe, everybody. We'll see you again really
soon. bye -bye um and so yes in the description
it basically lays out what what occurred that
night uh which was that the our collection assets
were there in area monitoring russian naval vessels
uh not sure what they're doing there um but they've
been hanging out in the middle of the ocean in
this place apparently for a few days keep an
eye on him and this night uh while they are observing
the russian vessels a large black triangle materializes
or decloaks or something the point is is it did
not move it appeared above the directly above
these ships probably no more than 200 meters
pretty close and interestingly as noted in the
report itself there was no visible reaction from
these vessels from what would almost certainly
be considered a hostile approach what do you
what do you take away from that they didn't notice
it or they're not upset about it or they don't
know what to do with it or or what so the implication
also in the text describing it was uh or sorry
i should say the analysis in the text was that
the russian navy had foreknowledge that this
vehicle would appear in that area of the ocean
and they were there specifically to either collect
on it themselves or to interact with it in some
way Any indication that it might be theirs, that
they knew it's going to be there because they
control it? Not in that document. And I haven't
seen anything to make me think that they controlled
that particular craft, but didn't see anything
to the contrary either. I guess it could be that
they've seen it before, that there's nothing
they can do about it, so don't get excited about
it. Might be, although it is interesting, you
know, if it's something that's part of their
environment, as it were, why are they making
an effort to be in this space at this time to
collect on something they already know about?