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Okay, so you went to Nanjiao. Yeah. It's pronounced

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properly. Nanjiao. No, no. It's still wrong.

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Nanjiao. Wrong, bro. Why? No, it's Nan. It's

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not. Don't bluff me. It's N. It's something related.

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Yeah, Nanjiao. Hi, and welcome back to the Chris

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Hansen conversation. And I have with me sipping

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whiskey. It's cool, man. It's cool. It's a podcast,

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you know, so it's all good. It's all kosher.

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Don't worry about it. And with me in studio for

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this episode, my tribute, I'm paying tribute

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to the band. The band is Bellingham. Can we flash

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that picture up, please, Guy? The full band.

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Don't flash the wrong thing. There you go. See

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lah, these crazy people sitting on the bloody

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red sofa, like friends. Okay, I forgot the lyrics.

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Now, we have six of them, but of course, you

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can see my studio is so damn tiny. I can't have

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six of them all here. But this is my tribute

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to the entire band. You can have them sit on

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our lap lah. Oh god. Please lah, tolong lah.

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Exactly, I say so too. Bong will sit on your

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lap. Oh boy, Bong will be sitting on some alien's

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lap to begin with. And yes, my dear ufologist,

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Ignatius Bong, is also with the band, Bellingham.

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And, you know, he'll be coming on very soon for

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our episode for the season for the UFO Reveal

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Asia. And that's going to be coming real soon.

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Bong's with the band. But today, with me representing

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the band, we are featuring these two lovebirds.

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They're getting married. What an introduction,

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bro. They are getting married. And Gabriel's

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here with us. He's a keyboard player and a band

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leader. What's up, guys? All right. And then

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we have his lovely fiance, who's also the lead

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singer and a humdinger for... I'm going to be

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playing you the video right after I introduce

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her. Deborah, she's a humdinger for Karen Carpenter.

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Play us that vid, Kai. Hey, hello. You see the

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resolution, right? Hey, you listen to the mix

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down, right? I do 1K. See you later. It's nice

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to know that there's someone I can turn to who

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will always care. You're always there when there's

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no Without you So many times When this city seems

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to be Without a friendly face A lonely place

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It's nice to know That you'll be there if I need

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you. And you'll always smile. Disappear and I

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end up singing Troubled sea to up and disappear

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You touch me with the love you're bringing I

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can't really lose when you're near Have forgotten

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half their promises They're not a kind Just hard

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to find One look at you And I know that I could

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learn to live without the rest Well, the smallest

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dreams won't come true. I can't take all the

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madness the world has taken, but I won't rush

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today. Without you Without you Thank you, Kai.

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Oh, nice. You look at me, man. I'm grinning from

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ear to ear, man. You know, that was, first of

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all, the story behind the grin is because that

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is my all -time favorite Carpenter song. And

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when I found it online, I was like, there's no

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freaking way I'm not going to use this one. One.

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Two. Grinning from ear to ear because a little

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tear welling up in my eye. Because it just brought

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me back to my very, very young years. And you

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know, you were such a humdinger for Karen Carpenter.

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And I swear that was perfection, man. That was

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perfection, man. I mixed that one down as I told

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you guys, right? For this show. And when I was

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listening to it yesterday as I was doing it,

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and just now hearing it through here, I mean,

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how did that happen? I mean, how did you get

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there, Debra? How? Blood, sweat, and tears. Yeah,

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so tell me about that. What did you have to do

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to get to this level, to sound like even Karen?

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Every inch of it, you know? Let me just be clear.

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I don't think I sound like Karen in the least

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bit. Well, a lot of people think otherwise. Maybe

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like 60 % at best. Honestly. Well, yeah, sure.

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There's no way anybody on this planet can sound

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exactly like Karen Carpenter. That is true. That

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is true. No, that is true. I mean, there's a

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lot of impressionists out there in the world

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doing impressions of many artists, right? And

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we can never say that any single one of them

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is 100%. There's no way. Yeah, I think it's the

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approach to the song. Yeah. How you copy the

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phrasing, the breath, the articulation of the

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words. Precisely, the enunciation, the articulation,

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you know, the way your phrasing is and you listen

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to the original, it's like, you could have put

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in, you must have put in a lot of work. Yeah,

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in the car. With me. Yeah. That didn't sound

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very right. She put a lot of work in the car

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with you. Listening to the song. I want to tell

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you, get a room, dude. It's smaller than 100

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square feet. Don't get the wrong idea. But you

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belong to Japan. You belong to... Okay, never

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mind. Let's not go there. We're going to get

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ourselves in some cheap shit if we want to go

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further than that. But yeah, okay. I mean, admittedly,

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man, seriously, on a serious note, I can imagine

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the amount of work you put in. It must have taken

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years. Am I right? Not at all. But then you are

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incredible. Because, you know, this guy is on

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the top, right in front of us, right front and

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center. And that's the king, right? Elvis is

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there. And in my younger years, I do so much

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Elvis. Jesus, for so long. And it started when

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I was a kid, you know. And to learn the phrasing,

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to learn the way he says things and how his tone

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is going to be like, right? And to the point

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where I ended up doing, back in the day, when

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Laserdiscs, you know, Laserdiscs, the big silver

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little, not little, the big silver discs where

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people use for karaoke and stuff, you know, and

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they have karaoke songs on those discs. And when

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they record it, they have the analog version

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where you're the singer in the background and

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the digital version where you don't have the

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singer. The analog version of that to guide people

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along, I did an entire album of it. And I know

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the amount of work. The reason why I'm saying

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this is because I know the amount of work that

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we have to put in to just get there is not funny.

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But how long did it take you? When did we start

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preparing for The Carpenter Show? Six months.

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Was it a conscious thing that you guys decided

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to do a Carpenter's Tribute? I think it was more

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on his mind. Yeah. Yeah. And then he's like,

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okay guys, we're doing a Carpenter's Tribute.

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I'm like, oh, okay. Because I mean, I know like

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so many of their songs and I've always wanted

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to play them. No one does it. Yeah. Like the

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obstacle stuff. Yeah. Goodbye to love. Yeah.

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And all, yeah. So, then one fine day, I just

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like, this band can do it. she has the voice

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for it yeah so yeah I mean initially it was a

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bit rough with like phrasing and everything but

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so we like just digest the song like you have

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digest the how Karen sings the articulation you

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live it and also and also the the band, the backing,

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the backing part has to be very exact. Like Clarence,

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we have to mute the toms and everything to make

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it sound like the 70s. Yeah, we went to buy Scotch

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Brite. Scotch Brite, microfiber towels. Really?

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He brings clothespacks around. So every Carpenters'

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Gate you go, he'll put the Scotch Brite on the

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toms. Clarence, by the way, people, Clarence,

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Clarence is the drummer. Yeah. Clarence is your

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drummer so he puts God's Bride yeah so we got

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down to like even like details like what symbols

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is he gonna use for the songs yeah so we got

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down very in depth wow yeah so to create that

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replicate that sound because so like when you

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hear it right you hear the the toms doesn't like

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over ring it's very muted so you basically ensure

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that you bring back that vintage retro kind of

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You know, what was available back in the day.

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You cannot replicate it like 100%. But you guys

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did a great job, man. Trying to do as close as

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possible. You guys did a great job, I can tell

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you that, man. I mean, my goodness me. A lot

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of work. Yes. Tell me about Bellingham. A name

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that rolls off the tongue. So... How did that

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happen, man? How come? Is there an origin story

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behind it? No, we were just finding a band name.

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got a few suggestions here and there. What were

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those suggestions before you decided on Bellingham?

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Before Bellingham even came about, we met each

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other and then we were like, oh, we should start

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a duo or something. And then there were a couple

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of names that came up. One of the very first

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names that came up was Joy Spring. What? What

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was that? Joy Spring. Joy Spring. What? It's

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a jazz standard. It's a jazz standard. It sounds

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more like a bridal company. You're going to buy

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wedding dress, go to Joy Spring. Or laundry.

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That's it. Yeah, yeah. Laundromat. With their

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own detergent called Joy Spring. Okay, okay,

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okay. Joy Spring is supposed to be a duo. Then

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what happened? They're saying. Just form a band.

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Because, okay, I've always wanted to have my

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own band. So, I've never got this opportunity

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to really form a band that plays together. You

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mean to say that prior to Bellingham, you never

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had a band? No, I was always a sessionist. I

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was always playing for singers. As a session

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player? Yeah, random. Is that right? So, you

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never had a band? I mean, you gig for all these

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agents and everything. So, in Singapore, it's

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just the community is so small. so they just

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like form bands together to play for wedding

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you know like oh I want usually they will hire

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the singer correct so usually the singer gets

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hired first then after that they will piece the

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band together so I mean we were playing like

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Mando kento oh gosh so then then i'm like this

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is not it oh yeah fuck yeah yeah this is not

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this is not it so it's a nightmare i'm like yes

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just just form a band reggie your guitarist is

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also playing for mando pop stuff reggie no reggie

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sorry uh sebastian sorry are you sorry sebastian

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All of a sudden, I had Reggie Leo's face in my

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head. Yeah, okay. Sorry, man. Sebastian. Yeah,

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he was playing for... So yeah, he tours and mental

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artists and all. So he's a very strong, very

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versatile player. Very, very, very talented.

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Yeah, so even Bong plays for like... Yeah, I

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know. You play for Ame, yeah. And many, many

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others. So funny, yeah. You really play for Chinese,

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huh? But he plays for a lot of English singers

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as well. Lobo, Three Degrees. We're like with

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Jimmy Lee. Jimmy Lee played for Lobo as well.

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Three Degrees as well. So Bong was with Jimmy

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then playing for these guys? Yeah. Wow. So I'm

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like, okay, I got all these guys in my band.

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So I'll just do it. So you roped one by one in?

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Yeah. So, okay. Initially, right? Okay. Yeah,

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what happened? How we started. Initially, it

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was just the two of us. Then we got called for

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a St. Mary gig. St. Mary the Angels. Yeah, St.

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Mary of the Angels. How come I never see you

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guys? I'm the guy that used to MC for Patrick.

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Everything for them. Seven years. Seven years.

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Recently, you mean? Yeah. Oh, recently. Recently,

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they don't like me. Yeah, it's true. It's true.

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Really? Yeah. What did you do? What did I do?

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let's not go there yeah even if they call me

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i wouldn't go back okay yeah but it's okay i

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will tag them okay by my wedding day i know that's

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okay i'm not hosting it there i'm hosting it

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at night later on but yeah so uh we got caught

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for a gig then i'm like oh she plays with Fun

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fair, feast day. Kaki fun night. Then I knew

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Clarence a couple of times. We met, played together.

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That guy is magic, man. We're still back on Clarence

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again. You know something? I said this to Bonnie,

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I think. You know Bonnie faced her suzer, right?

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Bonnie and his wonderful wife, lovely wife, Wendy.

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Bonnie's been in the circuit for a long time.

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And when I got into the circuit, it was because

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of Bonnie a long time ago. Yeah. And, and he

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had a drummer, Rizal's dad, Sanib. Rizal's dad.

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Rizal's dad, late dad, you know, and I was very

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fortunate to have played with him. And what a

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magician on the skins, I tell you that guy. But

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when I saw Clarence play for the first time,

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before he joined your band, And I went, who is

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this kid? Because the way he was drumming, straight

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away in my head, I saw Sanib. I saw Sanib. I

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said, this is very uncanny. And there's something

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about the way he plays that just, I straight

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away co -related to the late Sanib. And it's

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amazing. The delivery and the execution. And

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he really knows his stuff. Fluidity. Yeah. That's

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what Sanib had and that is what Clarence has.

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It's so fluid, his drumming. It's crazy. Crazy.

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You got yourselves a great drummer. Yeah. We

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are blessed. Thank you, Clarence. No, really.

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And it's my compliment also, please, to Clarence.

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You know, guy's a genius. Yeah. Okay. Let's go

00:18:11.430 --> 00:18:14.470
on. Clarence, and then? Yeah, so we played a

00:18:14.470 --> 00:18:17.339
gig together as a four piece. Yeah. Then I'm

00:18:17.339 --> 00:18:20.660
like, I like this band. Yeah, because like...

00:18:20.660 --> 00:18:23.259
Who's the fourth guy? Bong. Oh, Bong. Okay, so

00:18:23.259 --> 00:18:24.759
Bong, Clarence and the two of you. Both of us.

00:18:24.799 --> 00:18:27.779
Okay. Yeah, so then I'm like, I like this band,

00:18:27.859 --> 00:18:30.240
so maybe we can do something together and...

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Like something more. Yeah, we can do more. Like,

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because we played together without rehearsal.

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Yeah. You're all session players, you should

00:18:39.319 --> 00:18:41.339
be able to do that. Without rehearsal, we went

00:18:41.339 --> 00:18:44.940
there, had so much fun on the gig. But where

00:18:44.940 --> 00:18:47.809
did this one come in? Oh, she? No, we were together.

00:18:47.990 --> 00:18:49.930
We were gigging together. So all this while,

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you two guys have been gigging. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So the backstory is, actually, I was playing

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in the Mandarin scene for about seven over years.

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Wait a second. You were in the Mandarin scene?

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So she can sing all the Tina Pyeong songs. But

00:19:02.609 --> 00:19:04.190
don't ask me to speak. I can't speak for shit.

00:19:04.329 --> 00:19:06.150
Tina Pyeong. You can't speak for shit. I can't

00:19:06.150 --> 00:19:08.230
speak for shit, bro. So, okay. So basically,

00:19:08.349 --> 00:19:10.910
you sing in Chinese songs because you memorize,

00:19:11.009 --> 00:19:13.130
learn them. Singing is different from speaking

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it. Because usually when I play my Mandarin gigs,

00:19:15.650 --> 00:19:17.670
I have to play guitar. And there's usually other

00:19:17.670 --> 00:19:20.369
singers as well. So I have my charts. If not,

00:19:20.410 --> 00:19:21.869
I cannot remember. But you don't speak to the

00:19:21.869 --> 00:19:39.309
audience in Chinese. I learned that in seven

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years. But did you understand everything you

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were singing when you were singing Chinese songs?

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I mean, not really. I mean, Mandarin songs are

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all sad and sappy. You're right. So you don't

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really have to understand what you're singing.

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You're right. You just need to be sad. Because

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I do a lot of weddings as well. I've done so

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many weddings coming at my wazoo. I mean, you

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know, and I've got people who always ask me,

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Chris, do you think you can sing a Chinese song?

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I say, I can. And I do, by the way. Though my

00:20:05.460 --> 00:20:07.680
Mandarin sucks. So what song do you want? Can

00:20:07.680 --> 00:20:20.759
you sing? Wow, very good. Hello. Not bad, not

00:20:20.759 --> 00:20:23.319
bad. Oh, I'm saying bats. Exactly, from saying

00:20:23.319 --> 00:20:26.559
bats. All feel Chinese, right? But sing song

00:20:26.559 --> 00:20:29.019
again. Pay me money, I will sing the bloody Chinese

00:20:29.019 --> 00:20:33.500
song. Okay. Exactly, right? Yeah, but it's so...

00:20:33.500 --> 00:20:35.839
That's the funny thing. Coming back to the topic,

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people ask me, Chris, can you do a Chinese song

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for us? I say, do you know... There are practically

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nine and a half out of ten Chinese songs are

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sad songs. I want to go die. I'm going to jump

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down. All kind of nonsense. You know what I mean?

00:20:50.269 --> 00:20:52.450
My father died. My husband died. My wife died.

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That kind of thing. You know, you want me to

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sing that for your wedding? Are you kidding me?

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The only song I can tell him that I can do but

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I need to have a duet partner would be Shenzhen.

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I don't know that one. The one by Sally Yeh and

00:21:06.470 --> 00:21:10.759
George Lam. Mr. Mustache. Yeah. You know, and

00:21:10.759 --> 00:21:12.960
yeah, that's the only damn song. Otherwise, forget

00:21:12.960 --> 00:21:14.519
it, man. It's not going to happen. Don't sing

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that at my wedding. No, it's not going to happen.

00:21:17.119 --> 00:21:19.960
Don't worry about that one. I can show you and

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nobody will understand. Don't worry, that's not

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going to happen. And I do not, I have no intention

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of doing that here. I'll fire you in the spot,

00:21:28.160 --> 00:21:35.180
boss. Hey, Chris. What are you doing? Okay, I

00:21:35.180 --> 00:21:50.920
do. you better know i say tonight tonight gabriel

00:21:50.920 --> 00:21:53.559
the two of you got married you cannot have the

00:21:53.559 --> 00:21:58.240
we must be cannot be I think you're going in

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trouble, my friend. See, I love podcasts. You

00:22:03.799 --> 00:22:05.460
know what I think is wonderful? We can just talk

00:22:05.460 --> 00:22:08.259
crap like that. Okay, coming back to, so the

00:22:08.259 --> 00:22:10.900
two of you were playing together already. How

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did the two of you meet? We meet in the car park.

00:22:14.720 --> 00:22:17.660
Yes. I shit you not. We met in the car park.

00:22:17.660 --> 00:22:20.549
First about being in a car. You met in the car

00:22:20.549 --> 00:22:25.349
park. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the backstory is I

00:22:25.349 --> 00:22:27.930
came from a wedding gig. I got stuck in the lift

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for half an hour. Oh, boy. And then Sebastian

00:22:30.769 --> 00:22:34.119
texted me. Then he's like, hey Deb, come drink.

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I'm like, nah, I think I'm going to go home.

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And then I got swung in the lift for half an

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hour. I'm like, fuck this shit, I'm going for

00:22:41.200 --> 00:22:44.359
a drink. So I met Sebastian and a couple of other

00:22:44.359 --> 00:22:46.779
friends at Clark Key. And then, yeah, we're drinking,

00:22:46.900 --> 00:22:49.079
drinking, drinking. Okay, time to go home. Walking

00:22:49.079 --> 00:22:51.619
to the car park. And then Sebastian says hi to

00:22:51.619 --> 00:22:55.220
this guy. And then, and then he's like, hey,

00:22:55.359 --> 00:22:57.920
hello, hello, hello. And then he's like, hey,

00:22:57.960 --> 00:23:02.059
you're Debra, right? I'm like, haha, yeah. I'm

00:23:02.059 --> 00:23:05.900
like, you are? And he's like, oh, I'm Gabriel.

00:23:06.299 --> 00:23:08.519
And then I, I went back, I went back and whispered

00:23:08.519 --> 00:23:10.500
to my other friend like, who the fuck is this

00:23:10.500 --> 00:23:16.279
guy? I was drunk already lah. And then what happened?

00:23:17.299 --> 00:23:19.539
And, and then. Go on, go and story lah. You know

00:23:19.539 --> 00:23:20.900
what I mean? You don't gotta stop like that and

00:23:20.900 --> 00:23:23.000
hang halfway. And then what happened? And then

00:23:23.000 --> 00:23:24.380
what happened? He said, oh, I'm following you

00:23:24.380 --> 00:23:26.740
on Instagram. And then apparently I was following

00:23:26.740 --> 00:23:30.960
him too. But I had no idea. I'm just a nobody.

00:23:31.220 --> 00:23:34.279
Yeah. no lah don't say that lah bro going to

00:23:34.279 --> 00:23:38.900
be a husband soon no day but yeah so like he's

00:23:38.900 --> 00:23:40.660
like eh let's take a picture take a picture and

00:23:40.660 --> 00:23:42.960
after that post it on Instagram that's what I

00:23:42.960 --> 00:23:46.480
think and I'm like Gabriel Ian Lim so my first

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thing I asked him was eh you Catholic ah why

00:23:52.640 --> 00:23:55.420
did you ask why did you have to ask him that

00:23:55.710 --> 00:23:58.130
Because it's very hard to find Catholic musicians

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in the scene. Like in the Mandarin scene where

00:24:01.829 --> 00:24:05.990
I was for a very long time. But why do you need

00:24:05.990 --> 00:24:07.849
to have a Catholic player in the Mandarin scene?

00:24:07.950 --> 00:24:11.630
It's just easier to gel. Because you know, like

00:24:11.630 --> 00:24:13.950
in the Mandarin scene, people are always like...

00:24:13.950 --> 00:24:19.150
So I don't understand what the fuck they're talking

00:24:19.150 --> 00:24:20.690
about. So you're saying that Catholic people

00:24:20.690 --> 00:24:22.549
usually speak better English than Chinese? Yes,

00:24:22.549 --> 00:24:26.210
they're all Ang Mo Pai. What kind of stereotype

00:24:26.210 --> 00:24:30.410
is that? That's true. Really? Bro, you're Catholic,

00:24:30.529 --> 00:24:34.930
right? Yeah. You see his head. That's why you

00:24:34.930 --> 00:24:38.390
see the head. Paper visit head. But you know,

00:24:38.470 --> 00:24:41.349
honestly, I mean, I can see where you're coming

00:24:41.349 --> 00:24:44.750
from. If someone's from a Catholic school, most

00:24:44.750 --> 00:24:47.190
of us in Catholic schools are quite effed up

00:24:47.190 --> 00:24:55.390
in our mother tongue. Most of us. But then again,

00:24:55.490 --> 00:25:00.029
you have a Catholic eye for this. And I've met

00:25:00.029 --> 00:25:02.990
people from, you know, different parishes where

00:25:02.990 --> 00:25:05.789
they are predominantly Chinese speaking. So,

00:25:05.869 --> 00:25:08.109
you know, I mean, if you're talking about Catholic

00:25:08.109 --> 00:25:10.210
Catholics, you know, yeah, you know, I mean.

00:25:10.779 --> 00:25:12.579
Okay lah, I mean, it's quite an interesting observation

00:25:12.579 --> 00:25:14.640
lah, you know. Of course, I don't know lah. People

00:25:14.640 --> 00:25:16.119
will probably be wondering what this, people

00:25:16.119 --> 00:25:18.119
talking about, right, you know. Yeah, okay. So,

00:25:18.200 --> 00:25:22.019
to you, it was, you were quite glad that he's

00:25:22.019 --> 00:25:23.720
Catholic as well. Yeah, because like, he speaks

00:25:23.720 --> 00:25:26.099
English, like his English is fine. And like,

00:25:26.180 --> 00:25:29.759
you know, man, Gabriel Ian, got middle name,

00:25:29.799 --> 00:25:31.940
must be Catholic ah. Oh, I see, got middle name,

00:25:32.000 --> 00:25:36.220
probably Catholic ah. Okay, that's another observation.

00:25:36.539 --> 00:25:38.519
I didn't realize that because I have no bloody

00:25:38.519 --> 00:25:43.900
middle name. Well, okay. So, I'm Catholic. I

00:25:43.900 --> 00:25:46.519
have no middle name. I do. Yeah. Okay. So, then

00:25:46.519 --> 00:25:48.039
what happened after that? So, you guys got together

00:25:48.039 --> 00:25:50.700
to play everybody after that. What happened now?

00:25:52.660 --> 00:25:55.619
I'm going on chronology here. Oh, no. Then I,

00:25:55.839 --> 00:25:58.160
oh, then I asked her if she does like English

00:25:58.160 --> 00:26:01.640
stuff. Yeah. And I needed someone for a gig last

00:26:01.640 --> 00:26:05.000
minute. Oh, yes. Two piece. Two piece. Eh, three

00:26:05.000 --> 00:26:10.039
piece. Three piece, okay. Yeah. So, we got the

00:26:10.039 --> 00:26:13.160
gig and I got the gig. She don't want a gig.

00:26:13.380 --> 00:26:15.579
No, I was still working full time at that time.

00:26:15.579 --> 00:26:17.279
She tell me she don't want a gig. What were you

00:26:17.279 --> 00:26:21.779
doing? Software engineering. Okay. COVID transitioner.

00:26:22.319 --> 00:26:26.200
I got my $9 ,000. You open a new newspaper all

00:26:26.200 --> 00:26:31.220
of us. Isn't it? Yeah, yeah. Asia one. From singing

00:26:31.220 --> 00:26:33.660
to coding. So now, you know, it's interesting.

00:26:33.740 --> 00:26:35.099
I like conversations like this, you know, because

00:26:35.099 --> 00:26:37.259
I keep hearing stuff I can thread to other things.

00:26:37.279 --> 00:26:39.420
Since you were doing that full -time, were you

00:26:39.420 --> 00:26:41.079
doing something full -time before? Are you a

00:26:41.079 --> 00:26:42.559
full -time muso right now? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:26:42.660 --> 00:26:45.140
Are you a full -time muso right now? Yeah. And

00:26:45.140 --> 00:26:47.119
what were you doing prior to being a full -time

00:26:47.119 --> 00:26:50.380
muso? All the while? All the while. Holy shitballs.

00:26:51.240 --> 00:26:53.940
When I grew up, I didn't want to do anything

00:26:53.940 --> 00:26:56.819
else. Okay. Nothing else. I never even worked

00:26:56.819 --> 00:26:59.079
like banquet. I never been to like, never go

00:26:59.079 --> 00:27:01.180
and. Always in music. Fast food and everything.

00:27:01.619 --> 00:27:03.859
Don't let me ask you, man. How old are you? 30.

00:27:04.180 --> 00:27:07.559
30? Yeah. And how old are you? 32. 32. Okay.

00:27:07.640 --> 00:27:11.299
So you have been, you have been in music all

00:27:11.299 --> 00:27:13.359
your life, all your working life. Yeah. I mean,

00:27:13.359 --> 00:27:17.259
my, my first gig was at, I think 17 or 18. Wow.

00:27:17.440 --> 00:27:20.099
Yeah. So I was playing in church. I played church.

00:27:20.299 --> 00:27:22.859
I played in church quite a bit. No lah. Catholic

00:27:22.859 --> 00:27:26.740
church, where got pay lah? You tell me. In the

00:27:26.740 --> 00:27:29.920
graces of God. Yeah. Catholic church, I got paid.

00:27:30.019 --> 00:27:32.920
So, okay. So, your exposure is playing in church

00:27:32.920 --> 00:27:35.799
choirs. I mean, I play for weddings, church weddings.

00:27:36.000 --> 00:27:38.220
Right, right. So, people start hiring me for

00:27:38.220 --> 00:27:41.099
like, my first gig was, I remember, I think it

00:27:41.099 --> 00:27:44.339
was Shangri -La, Cocktail Piano, before a wedding.

00:27:44.660 --> 00:27:49.099
And I was like 17, I think, 17. Wow. And I got

00:27:49.099 --> 00:27:51.799
paid like 500 bucks. And at that time, at that

00:27:51.799 --> 00:27:53.859
point of time, like, wow. So, you didn't go to

00:27:53.859 --> 00:27:57.279
university? F. So, okay, after secondary school.

00:27:57.420 --> 00:28:00.299
Okay, I almost. Which school? Secondary school.

00:28:00.640 --> 00:28:10.289
Lan Chow. What? Lan Chow. High school. I almost

00:28:10.289 --> 00:28:13.690
went to St. Pat's. Never go. Wasted. I know right.

00:28:13.910 --> 00:28:16.910
If not, I'll fit in properly. Very much. Instead

00:28:16.910 --> 00:28:19.029
of being in Nanjiao. Yeah. That's why I recovered.

00:28:19.390 --> 00:28:22.869
That's worse than Chi Chong Fan Second Dream.

00:28:23.230 --> 00:28:25.750
Chi Chong Fan Second Dream. Chi Chong Fan Second

00:28:25.750 --> 00:28:28.329
Dream. Oh lao. Okay. So you went to Nanjiao.

00:28:28.549 --> 00:28:32.190
Yeah. I pronounced properly. Nanjiao. No, no.

00:28:32.230 --> 00:28:39.519
Still wrong. Nanjiao. Wrong lah bro. Why? No,

00:28:39.559 --> 00:28:43.079
it's Nan. It's not. Don't bluff me. It's N. It's

00:28:43.079 --> 00:28:45.779
something in the letter N. Yeah, Nan Qiao. Eh,

00:28:45.819 --> 00:28:47.799
fuck it lah. Nevermind. You went to that school.

00:28:48.480 --> 00:28:50.559
After that, what happened? You did your O's.

00:28:50.579 --> 00:28:55.079
So, I did my N's. Wah, I passed like, like, I

00:28:55.079 --> 00:28:58.779
almost got expelled from school. Why? Because

00:28:58.779 --> 00:29:01.019
I failed my Chinese. And it's a Nan Qiao school.

00:29:01.220 --> 00:29:02.579
So, you failed Chinese, they expelled you ah?

00:29:02.779 --> 00:29:05.440
No, you see, Nan Qiao, because Nan Qiao. Chinese

00:29:05.440 --> 00:29:08.720
school. Oh, Chinese school. Wah, my principal

00:29:08.720 --> 00:29:11.039
called my parents to school. He said, your son

00:29:11.039 --> 00:29:14.859
in band very good. Wah, play this, play that.

00:29:15.039 --> 00:29:18.259
Wah, student conductor, blah, blah, blah. I'll

00:29:18.259 --> 00:29:20.380
take you out from band if you cannot pass your

00:29:20.380 --> 00:29:24.660
Chinese. I think my principal spoke to my parents

00:29:24.660 --> 00:29:27.319
in Chinese and my mother don't understand. My

00:29:27.319 --> 00:29:29.660
father also half don't understand. Then he said,

00:29:29.720 --> 00:29:33.200
you better, I don't know, get your son. go and

00:29:33.200 --> 00:29:35.880
speak to them in Chinese at home or or something

00:29:35.880 --> 00:29:38.240
lah then I think my father got angry so let's

00:29:38.240 --> 00:29:42.640
go to principal and say I don't speak Chinese

00:29:42.640 --> 00:29:47.900
at home and then what happened probably lah something

00:29:47.900 --> 00:29:52.400
like that lah I remember so record then then

00:29:52.400 --> 00:29:54.839
wah I this episode's gonna get saved by a lot

00:29:54.839 --> 00:29:57.140
of people you know like a lot of Karen's gonna

00:29:57.140 --> 00:30:05.099
get fucking angry man yeah so so Yeah, man. A

00:30:05.099 --> 00:30:07.660
lot of woke fuckers out there, you know? Especially

00:30:07.660 --> 00:30:11.380
those normally from Lanjiao. Then after that,

00:30:11.680 --> 00:30:14.400
after that, my principal, I remember he said

00:30:14.400 --> 00:30:17.839
something. You will never go far. Because you

00:30:17.839 --> 00:30:20.839
cannot, you feel Chinese, then I was doing badly

00:30:20.839 --> 00:30:22.599
in school. Have you seen the fucker around recently?

00:30:22.960 --> 00:30:29.460
Never. Giving the finger. And then? You know

00:30:29.460 --> 00:30:31.400
his name? I don't know. Don't mention the name.

00:30:31.849 --> 00:30:34.289
That one is too far. Don't bring it that far

00:30:34.289 --> 00:30:37.690
though. Okay. Tell me that in private. The name

00:30:37.690 --> 00:30:39.410
quite funny lah. Okay. Later I tell you. Later

00:30:39.410 --> 00:30:42.049
tell me. You mention this now, we die. I tell

00:30:42.049 --> 00:30:43.650
you, we're going to get in bloody trouble. I

00:30:43.650 --> 00:30:45.650
say lah, then you teet lah. You cannot teet lah.

00:30:46.990 --> 00:30:50.009
Okay, Kai, can we do the teet? Kai? Okay, tell

00:30:50.009 --> 00:30:51.990
me the name. Slowly, come on, two, three, so

00:30:51.990 --> 00:30:54.170
we can have enough space to teet. One, two, three.

00:31:18.639 --> 00:31:22.440
What they've said, man. I mean, Bob or his parents

00:31:22.440 --> 00:31:24.240
thinking about it when they were naming him.

00:31:25.950 --> 00:31:28.210
Sorry, people. You won't get the joke. It's so

00:31:28.210 --> 00:31:29.809
private because we had to bleep it up because

00:31:29.809 --> 00:31:31.549
we don't want to get in too much trouble. We're

00:31:31.549 --> 00:31:33.470
already in a lot of trouble right now. Okay?

00:31:33.630 --> 00:31:36.210
We had to bleep them up, but it's a damn funny

00:31:36.210 --> 00:31:42.950
name. Okay. What a name. What the fish. What

00:31:42.950 --> 00:31:52.789
a thing to bring, huh? Commercial. Roll call.

00:31:53.569 --> 00:32:00.109
Oh, man. Fado is a fisherman. Now you all know

00:32:00.109 --> 00:32:05.910
the name because I don't do it for fish. He smelled

00:32:05.910 --> 00:32:10.109
the sea. The office must smell really slimy and

00:32:10.109 --> 00:32:17.789
salty and fishy. His wife. Oh my gosh. I thought

00:32:17.789 --> 00:32:21.109
I was bad. This fella is worse. Okay. Actually,

00:32:21.170 --> 00:32:23.130
I went to St. Pat's. Yeah, you're right. But

00:32:23.130 --> 00:32:25.730
how the hell did you end up in that school anyway?

00:32:25.950 --> 00:32:28.529
Because I just, I stay like two minutes away,

00:32:28.630 --> 00:32:31.970
just beside. And I was from the, I was from,

00:32:31.970 --> 00:32:34.690
I was from the primary school. Yeah. Then my

00:32:34.690 --> 00:32:36.630
parents, you know, I was, my father's from Montfort.

00:32:37.670 --> 00:32:42.230
Abing, Abing, Montfort, Abing. I didn't say that.

00:32:42.769 --> 00:32:44.650
For those of you listening to audio, it was me.

00:32:44.750 --> 00:32:46.289
Or the fisherman, Abing. It was Gabriel. Gabriel

00:32:46.289 --> 00:32:47.730
said that shit. The guy didn't say that shit.

00:32:47.769 --> 00:32:50.569
My father, fisherman, Abing. Monfort or Fisherman.

00:32:50.690 --> 00:32:55.529
Okay. To all the Monfort people, I'm not responsible

00:32:55.529 --> 00:32:59.170
for that. Shao Kang Fishing Village. It's Gabriel.

00:33:01.009 --> 00:33:03.470
If anybody wants to do anything to him, to do

00:33:03.470 --> 00:33:06.450
anything about this, please go for Gabriel, okay?

00:33:06.650 --> 00:33:09.289
I didn't say shit like that. Okay, and then what

00:33:09.289 --> 00:33:12.789
happened? So yeah, if I don't pass, I'll get

00:33:12.789 --> 00:33:14.930
expelled and everything. I don't know whether

00:33:14.930 --> 00:33:16.970
I'll really get expelled because I was failing

00:33:16.970 --> 00:33:21.109
everything. I already knew I want to be a musician.

00:33:21.549 --> 00:33:25.410
My conductor, Mr. Gloss. David Gloss. Oh my goodness.

00:33:25.450 --> 00:33:27.630
Shout out to you, David Gloss. Yeah, yeah. So

00:33:27.630 --> 00:33:30.130
I respect him a lot wherever he is now. David,

00:33:30.269 --> 00:33:32.630
his name runs everywhere, man. Yeah, so that's

00:33:32.630 --> 00:33:34.910
how I got the patrician blood as well. That's

00:33:34.910 --> 00:33:38.440
right. Yeah. Strange, man. Damn strange. Okay.

00:33:38.539 --> 00:33:41.220
He was, thankfully enough, he was there for a

00:33:41.220 --> 00:33:44.039
couple of years when I was in band. So I learned

00:33:44.039 --> 00:33:46.940
a lot from him. Inspired me to be a musician.

00:33:47.880 --> 00:33:51.819
Yeah. So after that, I decided I want to go do

00:33:51.819 --> 00:33:54.920
music. I don't want to go and study like whatever.

00:33:55.480 --> 00:33:58.140
My parents supportive. No, no, no. You're still

00:33:58.140 --> 00:34:00.460
down. You went for your end levels. Yeah. So

00:34:00.460 --> 00:34:02.900
I, okay. I went my end levels. I passed. You

00:34:02.900 --> 00:34:06.519
passed Chinese? Passed. No, I take CLB. Oh, clever

00:34:06.519 --> 00:34:08.369
boy. yeah my time you know such thing called

00:34:08.369 --> 00:34:10.710
CLB yeah I normal stream streaming also yeah

00:34:10.710 --> 00:34:14.710
so I CLB then then so I I somehow or rather I

00:34:14.710 --> 00:34:17.329
pass CLB I checker knuckle checker knuckle I

00:34:17.329 --> 00:34:18.949
pass checker knuckle checker knuckle you wrote

00:34:18.949 --> 00:34:22.030
nice also can pass lah I think I'm know I I remember

00:34:22.030 --> 00:34:26.369
I go exam I finish the MCQ in like you know 5

00:34:26.369 --> 00:34:29.590
minutes everybody still like what is this I pray

00:34:29.590 --> 00:34:32.809
I count my finger 1 2 3 4 4 I think this one

00:34:32.809 --> 00:34:36.320
next one 2 Next one should be 4 again. Then I

00:34:36.320 --> 00:34:38.280
have probability lah. Then somehow I pass boss.

00:34:38.480 --> 00:34:40.940
Okay. Then you went O level lah. Yeah. Then I

00:34:40.940 --> 00:34:43.059
went O level. Then I failed. You failed Chinese

00:34:43.059 --> 00:34:46.960
lah. Failed lah. Everything failed. No. O level

00:34:46.960 --> 00:34:49.900
I failed. Failed Chinese. You failed Chinese

00:34:49.900 --> 00:34:51.460
lah. Yeah. Too hard already. It's okay. I failed

00:34:51.460 --> 00:34:55.019
Chinese too. How many credits you got? Wah. I

00:34:55.019 --> 00:34:57.940
got. Good enough for you to go further lah. No,

00:34:57.960 --> 00:35:00.239
I cannot go. I cannot go. Cannot go KC, cannot

00:35:00.239 --> 00:35:02.400
go poly, cannot go anywhere lah. Cannot, I hopeless

00:35:02.400 --> 00:35:04.440
kid already. So I like, after that I like, shit

00:35:04.440 --> 00:35:06.900
man, what to do? So I say, never mind, I take

00:35:06.900 --> 00:35:09.579
O -Level again. So you retook lah? I retook O

00:35:09.579 --> 00:35:13.360
-Level. In that same school lah? No, no, I private

00:35:13.360 --> 00:35:15.019
candidate. Private, okay. Private candidate.

00:35:15.699 --> 00:35:19.420
But then again, I everyday play music lah. Never

00:35:19.420 --> 00:35:21.320
study again. Raise money also lah. Raise money,

00:35:21.420 --> 00:35:23.800
raise one year. Then after that, I like, okay.

00:35:24.780 --> 00:35:27.260
I'm going to go army first. So I went to army.

00:35:27.400 --> 00:35:29.699
Then during army, I'm like, maybe I should go

00:35:29.699 --> 00:35:32.019
Berkeley. I see everybody go Berkeley. Go Berkeley,

00:35:32.139 --> 00:35:34.739
boss. I paid for the audition. I paid for the

00:35:34.739 --> 00:35:40.079
interview. I never go boss. What the f***? Because

00:35:40.079 --> 00:35:42.579
I see the school fees. Then I look at my parents.

00:35:42.960 --> 00:35:48.230
Cannot lah. Even if I get half scholarship. I

00:35:48.230 --> 00:35:49.630
don't know where this story is going. I really

00:35:49.630 --> 00:35:53.210
don't know. Do you want to go Berkeley? It got

00:35:53.210 --> 00:35:56.409
me all excited. Then you didn't go. The fee is

00:35:56.409 --> 00:36:00.090
quite high. Yeah, very high. And then? I say,

00:36:00.190 --> 00:36:05.849
Singapore, what school? NAFA? And then? What

00:36:05.849 --> 00:36:08.949
happened this time? I registered for NAFA as

00:36:08.949 --> 00:36:13.150
a classical saxophonist. I play saxophone in

00:36:13.150 --> 00:36:16.780
band. Oh, you're okay. So I can. I'm even more

00:36:16.780 --> 00:36:18.880
confused. Yeah. So all the while you were playing

00:36:18.880 --> 00:36:23.239
the sax. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I registered classical

00:36:23.239 --> 00:36:27.159
saxophone. Then I speak to, I mean, I spoke to,

00:36:27.159 --> 00:36:30.480
I spoke to Mr. Gloss, you know, ask him for advice.

00:36:30.739 --> 00:36:33.739
I think a few of them tell me, hey, screw it.

00:36:33.760 --> 00:36:37.860
Just flip, you know, more jobs. Everything. Do

00:36:37.860 --> 00:36:40.780
pop. good advice yeah but you know i played piano

00:36:40.780 --> 00:36:43.440
at that time you knew yeah i started playing

00:36:43.440 --> 00:36:46.320
piano at four oh so it was piano first yeah you

00:36:46.320 --> 00:36:49.159
feel like i'll tell sorry but at least give me

00:36:49.159 --> 00:36:52.019
some content that's why i'm a musician okay so

00:36:52.019 --> 00:36:53.840
you were already playing the piano so it's not

00:36:53.840 --> 00:36:56.920
moving it wasn't even a transition that's why

00:36:56.920 --> 00:36:59.360
i knew when i was in band i knew that i wanted

00:36:59.360 --> 00:37:01.980
to do music because i i enjoyed it yeah yeah

00:37:01.980 --> 00:37:05.429
but i hate classical i hate classical piano Okay,

00:37:05.510 --> 00:37:08.690
who doesn't? I teach my teacher how to play classical

00:37:08.690 --> 00:37:11.269
piano. I remember my grade 7 or grade 8 exam.

00:37:13.409 --> 00:37:17.829
Classical piece. My remark. I've never done well

00:37:17.829 --> 00:37:20.510
for my classical stuff. My classical exams. Okay.

00:37:20.630 --> 00:37:27.449
My remark. The piece sounded too jazzy. That's

00:37:27.449 --> 00:37:31.389
why his Instagram handle is jazz chops. Why?

00:37:31.429 --> 00:37:35.400
Angry boss. I say it's my interpretation. My

00:37:35.400 --> 00:37:38.940
interpretation of the classical music. All the

00:37:38.940 --> 00:37:42.039
classical people confirm flame me. A lot of people

00:37:42.039 --> 00:37:44.179
will be flaming you bro. From the Monfort guys

00:37:44.179 --> 00:37:49.139
to the Monfort guys. I leave now. I go and drink

00:37:49.139 --> 00:37:53.699
better. To the classical fellas. But okay. So

00:37:53.699 --> 00:37:59.800
I went to audition Nafa. Nafa saxophone and LaSalle

00:37:59.800 --> 00:38:02.440
piano. LaSalle. Okay. LaSalle piano. I never

00:38:02.440 --> 00:38:06.400
go Nafa. Then? Yeah, applied for audition. You

00:38:06.400 --> 00:38:08.139
didn't go? What the fuck's wrong with you, bro?

00:38:08.760 --> 00:38:11.860
Then I, because I, I'm a guy like, if I know

00:38:11.860 --> 00:38:13.480
what I want to do, I will just go and do. Okay.

00:38:13.559 --> 00:38:16.320
So I knew that, I think I do better in piano

00:38:16.320 --> 00:38:18.440
lah. Okay, so you went to, you didn't go to NAFA

00:38:18.440 --> 00:38:20.739
anyway? Never. So I went to LaSalle. Then I got

00:38:20.739 --> 00:38:23.900
a scholarship. What's that? From who? LaSalle.

00:38:24.019 --> 00:38:27.219
From LaSalle. Okay. So I got LaSalle scholarship.

00:38:27.380 --> 00:38:30.219
Then what? Wah, my diploma free, boss. My parents

00:38:30.219 --> 00:38:32.159
happy, I happy, everybody happy lah. So after

00:38:32.159 --> 00:38:35.730
that, I did. Diploma and degree. Huh? All in

00:38:35.730 --> 00:38:38.429
the cell? Yeah, all in the cell. Wow. So now,

00:38:38.570 --> 00:38:41.789
that guy, the guy who said I'm going to get expelled,

00:38:41.929 --> 00:38:45.030
bro, I got paper now. Yeah, I got paper. And

00:38:45.030 --> 00:38:47.610
he's more qualified than you. And then he didn't

00:38:47.610 --> 00:38:52.929
have to go fishing. He never drowned in the ocean.

00:38:53.170 --> 00:38:57.630
Yeah, man. He still fish every night. I mean,

00:38:57.769 --> 00:39:00.460
it's funny, you know, I mean. Yours is not the

00:39:00.460 --> 00:39:02.860
only story I've heard like this. Even like me,

00:39:02.920 --> 00:39:05.059
I had a teacher who said to me when I was in

00:39:05.059 --> 00:39:08.619
secondary two, art teacher, who said, boys like

00:39:08.619 --> 00:39:11.679
you amount to nothing in life. And she was right.

00:39:11.960 --> 00:39:24.599
Anyway, so... well at least you went ahead you

00:39:24.599 --> 00:39:27.039
got your degree right you know in music which

00:39:27.039 --> 00:39:30.119
is great man so then while you were doing that

00:39:30.119 --> 00:39:31.940
let me guess you were moonlighting playing outside

00:39:31.940 --> 00:39:34.659
yeah I was playing a lot so actually I was playing

00:39:34.659 --> 00:39:37.360
with my lecturers and all so I actually never

00:39:37.360 --> 00:39:43.119
go to school some things don't change so during

00:39:43.119 --> 00:39:47.619
NS did you play in MDC or something no I shoot

00:39:47.619 --> 00:39:50.750
gun You should get one. Infantry, boss. Ah, wow.

00:39:51.030 --> 00:39:53.989
So, like me lah. Yeah, really ah? You also ah?

00:39:54.110 --> 00:39:55.929
I'm also infantry. Foot slogger lah, foot slogger.

00:39:56.130 --> 00:39:59.170
Wow, infantry. Which one ah? Huh? Which one?

00:39:59.550 --> 00:40:03.349
Which one? Which infantry unit? Yeah. 8SIR. Wow,

00:40:03.389 --> 00:40:06.210
never even heard of it, boss. 2PDF ah? Oh, please

00:40:06.210 --> 00:40:08.469
don't fight. Yeah, please don't fight. Alright,

00:40:08.630 --> 00:40:14.389
so. So, okay, then after that, the rest is history

00:40:14.389 --> 00:40:16.289
lah. You started playing outside. Started playing.

00:40:16.880 --> 00:40:19.780
Yeah, I started way early. I was doing gigs and

00:40:19.780 --> 00:40:22.820
all. Then it got better and better and better.

00:40:22.960 --> 00:40:26.039
Then I'm here right now. And Debra, how about

00:40:26.039 --> 00:40:29.920
you? Where were you studying? I was studying

00:40:29.920 --> 00:40:33.699
in SP. Before that. Before that. Secondary school.

00:40:34.179 --> 00:40:40.179
You guessed. I'm a donor. Very easy. I tell you

00:40:40.179 --> 00:40:41.760
something, my brothers are all from St. Pat's.

00:40:42.159 --> 00:40:45.719
KC are you? No lah. CHIJ? Which one? Topayo.

00:40:46.019 --> 00:40:49.420
Oh, CHIJ Topayo. Yeah, 10 years. 10 years ah?

00:40:49.539 --> 00:40:52.420
10 years. Oh. Then were you always, have you

00:40:52.420 --> 00:40:57.239
always been in music? Not always. Actually, it

00:40:57.239 --> 00:40:59.099
started when I was in like primary school because

00:40:59.099 --> 00:41:02.159
my parents were in Peter Rose Choir. Wow. Yeah.

00:41:02.219 --> 00:41:05.860
Wow. So when they left, then Prison Christ had

00:41:05.860 --> 00:41:09.699
like an opening for a choir so they formed a

00:41:09.699 --> 00:41:11.420
new choir or something like that we joined the

00:41:11.420 --> 00:41:13.960
11 o 'clock choir and then were you in Peter

00:41:13.960 --> 00:41:18.019
Lowe choir no lucky never he moved he already

00:41:18.019 --> 00:41:20.559
moved to Cathedral by that time yeah got promoted

00:41:20.559 --> 00:41:25.619
yeah promoted and then yeah so I was in I was

00:41:25.619 --> 00:41:27.920
in the choir my whole primary school like like

00:41:27.920 --> 00:41:30.719
church choir and school choir right yeah but

00:41:30.719 --> 00:41:32.639
you play as well I can see you playing the guitar

00:41:33.039 --> 00:41:36.460
Yeah, so that actually only started in secondary

00:41:36.460 --> 00:41:40.300
school. Yeah, what happened? Oh, I remember.

00:41:40.960 --> 00:41:43.579
This guy was interested in my sister. And then,

00:41:43.699 --> 00:41:47.619
yeah. And then I picked up my brother's guitar

00:41:47.619 --> 00:41:49.679
when he went out of the house and watched him

00:41:49.679 --> 00:41:52.059
play. Quite cool. When he leaves the house, I

00:41:52.059 --> 00:41:54.739
take his guitar and I go to play. Well, who taught

00:41:54.739 --> 00:41:56.820
you to play? You played or you self -taught yourself?

00:41:56.900 --> 00:41:59.940
Ultimate guitar. So, Ultimate Guitar, right?

00:42:00.179 --> 00:42:02.400
They show you how to finger the chords. Oh, you

00:42:02.400 --> 00:42:04.760
mean the chords. Yeah, fingering the chords.

00:42:04.940 --> 00:42:08.800
So, I just open any song that I knew. But how

00:42:08.800 --> 00:42:09.980
about the strumming and all that? You have to

00:42:09.980 --> 00:42:13.579
learn how to strum. Hantam. Hantam bola. Hantam.

00:42:14.420 --> 00:42:17.639
So, people like me can't do shit like that, you

00:42:17.639 --> 00:42:20.139
know? We want the hantam so it comes out wrong.

00:42:20.730 --> 00:42:22.610
We hantam, people want to hantam us because when

00:42:22.610 --> 00:42:24.070
we hantam, it sounds like shit. You know what

00:42:24.070 --> 00:42:27.130
I'm saying? Yeah, right. So, okay. And then the

00:42:27.130 --> 00:42:30.510
singing bit, did you work on it on your own because

00:42:30.510 --> 00:42:31.949
you love it, because you enjoy it, because you're

00:42:31.949 --> 00:42:34.489
passionate for it? We know your future husband

00:42:34.489 --> 00:42:36.349
is really passionate about that shit. I mean,

00:42:36.369 --> 00:42:39.530
judging by the story you just told us. How about

00:42:39.530 --> 00:42:43.110
you? For me, I mean like, because I actually

00:42:43.110 --> 00:42:45.650
started playing guitar first. So, I got recruited

00:42:45.650 --> 00:42:47.849
to join my church music ministry and everything.

00:42:48.349 --> 00:42:50.969
What kind of church people are you? So churchy

00:42:50.969 --> 00:42:55.289
to you. Mouth like sailor but then again damn

00:42:55.289 --> 00:42:58.750
churchy. Yeah. My very holiness I got all of

00:42:58.750 --> 00:43:02.610
your things. Oh gosh. Okay. Yes. So I got recruited

00:43:02.610 --> 00:43:04.550
to join the church music ministry which my brother

00:43:04.550 --> 00:43:06.489
was also playing in but he left already and then

00:43:06.489 --> 00:43:08.929
they needed like an acoustic guitarist. Okay.

00:43:09.050 --> 00:43:11.849
So I joined them and then I always wanted to

00:43:11.849 --> 00:43:14.769
sing lah. Okay. But because they had like five

00:43:14.769 --> 00:43:17.090
or six singers and I was just like what the hell.

00:43:17.090 --> 00:43:20.050
You never tell them you suck lah. You cannot

00:43:20.050 --> 00:43:21.230
sing, you cannot sing. All the church people

00:43:21.230 --> 00:43:22.969
cannot sing. Catholic church, all cannot sing,

00:43:22.969 --> 00:43:27.590
boss. I mean, like, I wanted to. I don't know

00:43:27.590 --> 00:43:32.030
how many people is going to get, we're going

00:43:32.030 --> 00:43:34.070
to get wet for how many people, I don't know.

00:43:35.969 --> 00:43:45.610
Oh my goodness. This show does not cut, my friend.

00:43:47.439 --> 00:43:50.579
okay and we will bleep that bit though because

00:43:50.579 --> 00:43:53.380
that was a bit too much but okay okay coming

00:43:53.380 --> 00:43:55.320
back to the point so did you tell them they suck

00:43:55.320 --> 00:43:59.000
did they suck no no no I didn't yet you got me

00:43:59.000 --> 00:44:03.199
solid I don't want to comment oh they weren't

00:44:03.199 --> 00:44:06.019
the best okay okay that's the politically correct

00:44:06.019 --> 00:44:09.929
answer Now we're going to be politically correct.

00:44:10.010 --> 00:44:13.550
Yes. Okay. And all the incorrectness from the

00:44:13.550 --> 00:44:17.150
get -go, we started the show. Yeah, right. And

00:44:17.150 --> 00:44:19.530
what happened next? What happened next? So basically,

00:44:19.630 --> 00:44:22.550
I didn't sing. Like my entire secondary school,

00:44:22.610 --> 00:44:25.250
I've had no singing. But you know, you sound

00:44:25.250 --> 00:44:28.269
so freaking good, man. when you say I mean how

00:44:28.269 --> 00:44:31.590
did you get there furiously so actually no it

00:44:31.590 --> 00:44:34.650
actually happened after actually during my poly

00:44:34.650 --> 00:44:37.650
days because after secondary school I went to

00:44:37.650 --> 00:44:40.969
SP and I studied music and audio production oh

00:44:40.969 --> 00:44:45.230
wow so cool all the courses damn it I wish I

00:44:45.230 --> 00:44:47.449
was young again damn it so many courses I can

00:44:47.449 --> 00:44:50.269
go for but I feel mad but I also wanted to go

00:44:50.269 --> 00:44:53.380
to La Salle I wanted to go to LaSalle. Lucky

00:44:53.380 --> 00:44:54.840
you never go. Yeah, lucky I never go because

00:44:54.840 --> 00:44:57.800
my sister was enough. And then I'm like, parents

00:44:57.800 --> 00:45:03.440
no money. So I go SP. Why lucky never go? Don't

00:45:03.440 --> 00:45:06.059
say lah. You own the end, I don't want to release

00:45:06.059 --> 00:45:11.699
lah. No lah, I waste money lah. Okay, fine, fine.

00:45:11.880 --> 00:45:16.039
So you went to SP and then you, did you discover

00:45:16.039 --> 00:45:18.840
that you actually like singing and enjoying it?

00:45:19.500 --> 00:45:21.539
I actually enjoyed singing all the while. I just

00:45:21.539 --> 00:45:24.159
never had the opportunity. Were you ever formally

00:45:24.159 --> 00:45:26.199
taught or was there a mentor that you had to

00:45:26.199 --> 00:45:29.900
follow? I had three unofficial lessons during

00:45:29.900 --> 00:45:34.179
COVID and that's about it. Yeah. Unofficial lessons.

00:45:34.179 --> 00:45:36.280
I don't know if I want to go now. Some talent.

00:45:36.380 --> 00:45:42.050
Yeah. That's a whole other story. There's a reason

00:45:42.050 --> 00:45:44.590
why I had this show because I want to hear the

00:45:44.590 --> 00:45:48.809
stories. Just in summary, in brief, keep it brief.

00:45:50.650 --> 00:45:53.489
This is my perspective. I just want to be clear.

00:45:53.550 --> 00:45:56.690
This is my perspective. I was 93 kilos before

00:45:56.690 --> 00:45:59.309
COVID, okay? Because I was... digging full time

00:45:59.309 --> 00:46:02.130
right for like what five six years right so every

00:46:02.130 --> 00:46:03.909
night I was drinking every night I was eating

00:46:03.909 --> 00:46:06.030
every night I was drinking and drinking and drinking

00:46:06.030 --> 00:46:08.570
right I put on a lot of weight I'm like 93 kilos

00:46:08.570 --> 00:46:10.670
and then covid came and I'm like ah shit I'm

00:46:10.670 --> 00:46:14.530
so fat I need to lose weight so I lost I lost

00:46:14.530 --> 00:46:18.110
about 30 kilos wow amazing during covid amazing

00:46:18.110 --> 00:46:20.510
now you need to put a picture there no no no

00:46:20.510 --> 00:46:26.840
please don't her 65 picture don't have Okay,

00:46:26.860 --> 00:46:32.340
anyway. This one is going to get into so much

00:46:32.340 --> 00:46:35.059
trouble after you leave the studio. You want

00:46:35.059 --> 00:46:39.400
to see and come to the wedding. What's that got

00:46:39.400 --> 00:46:42.360
to do with the singing? Yeah, so because I was

00:46:42.360 --> 00:46:44.199
in the Chinese scene, right? So, you know, when

00:46:44.199 --> 00:46:47.090
you are like a bit chubbier. People don't really

00:46:47.090 --> 00:46:48.550
give a shit about you. Not chubby, it's fat.

00:46:48.610 --> 00:46:51.349
Is that right? Yeah, fat. They don't pay attention

00:46:51.349 --> 00:46:53.969
to you. They'll be like, oh, if you lose weight,

00:46:54.030 --> 00:46:55.429
then suddenly everybody's like, oh, you want

00:46:55.429 --> 00:46:57.269
to take photo? You want to? Oh, you want singing

00:46:57.269 --> 00:47:01.309
lessons? Yeah, I'm like. Who are these people?

00:47:02.550 --> 00:47:05.610
They are people in the scene. Who actually told

00:47:05.610 --> 00:47:08.150
you this shit? Yeah, suddenly I was getting offers

00:47:08.150 --> 00:47:10.070
for like, oh, you want to take photo? No, I help

00:47:10.070 --> 00:47:14.210
you take photo. I think you got potential to

00:47:14.210 --> 00:47:17.079
go far. I give you some singing lessons. Oh,

00:47:17.079 --> 00:47:22.820
all these, all these. Is it all this? I mean,

00:47:22.820 --> 00:47:26.300
I don't know whether they're bad or not. Yeah.

00:47:31.760 --> 00:47:34.980
Okay. Yeah. No, they're just being a bunch of.

00:47:36.860 --> 00:47:41.380
Yeah, man. Yeah. Oh yeah. That's how I got. a

00:47:41.380 --> 00:47:45.559
few complimentary vocal lessons. Complimentary

00:47:45.559 --> 00:47:51.300
vocal lessons? Yeah, yeah. Okay, but did you

00:47:51.300 --> 00:47:53.619
learn anything from that? Yeah, a little bit,

00:47:53.719 --> 00:47:56.460
yeah. Okay, but no, you see, what I'm trying

00:47:56.460 --> 00:47:58.780
to understand here is that Gabriel kept saying

00:47:58.780 --> 00:48:00.599
by the side here, because she's talented, because

00:48:00.599 --> 00:48:02.320
she's talented, because she's talented, but did

00:48:02.320 --> 00:48:04.980
you have any mentoring? Is there an official

00:48:04.980 --> 00:48:07.380
person that you can say, I... actually attribute

00:48:07.380 --> 00:48:10.440
my singing prowess to this person okay it's actually

00:48:10.440 --> 00:48:13.679
like um it's a combination of things right so

00:48:13.679 --> 00:48:16.940
from number one my mother because my mother is

00:48:16.940 --> 00:48:20.099
a teacher or was a teacher so every day at home

00:48:20.099 --> 00:48:22.239
i was just like oh your grammar's wrong is there

00:48:22.239 --> 00:48:25.159
not there and then you know like she's in choir

00:48:25.159 --> 00:48:27.760
so every time i sing wrongly you know your diction's

00:48:27.760 --> 00:48:29.559
not coming out right she'll be like don't sing

00:48:29.559 --> 00:48:33.500
it like that sing it this way okay yeah so um

00:48:33.500 --> 00:48:36.440
a lot of the Good stuff I learned from her. So,

00:48:36.440 --> 00:48:37.920
diction from mother, okay. Diction from mother,

00:48:37.960 --> 00:48:41.159
definitely from mother. What else? Who else?

00:48:41.539 --> 00:48:44.239
And then after that, actually, I just learned

00:48:44.239 --> 00:48:46.840
along the way when I was gigging after poly.

00:48:47.380 --> 00:48:49.480
Yeah. So, you learned it on your own, all self

00:48:49.480 --> 00:48:52.340
-taught? Yeah. Wow. Really much, I think, yeah.

00:48:52.559 --> 00:48:55.800
Okay, then I'm going to say talent. No, it's

00:48:55.800 --> 00:48:59.000
hard work. He sounded completely different. Talent

00:48:59.000 --> 00:49:01.880
without hard work is rubbish. Hard work coupled

00:49:01.880 --> 00:49:05.119
with talent is amazing. It's as simple as that,

00:49:05.139 --> 00:49:07.559
man. It's as simple as that. It's a fly on my

00:49:07.559 --> 00:49:09.860
drink. I got distracted. Oh, there's the guy

00:49:09.860 --> 00:49:12.159
that we're trying to trap from just now. Is it

00:49:12.159 --> 00:49:15.179
in your drink? No. It's not? Okay. I drink it,

00:49:15.199 --> 00:49:22.079
I drink it. Hey! Hey! Hey! So tell me about Bellingham

00:49:22.079 --> 00:49:24.619
again. So coming back to the story. So you guys

00:49:24.619 --> 00:49:26.960
decided that you are, you decided it. Yeah. I

00:49:26.960 --> 00:49:28.989
want to have a band. So we got four, the four

00:49:28.989 --> 00:49:30.929
piece in, then after that. And I always, I always

00:49:30.929 --> 00:49:32.690
wanted to, you know, like Earth, Wind, Fire,

00:49:32.750 --> 00:49:35.929
Big Band. Oh, best, bro. Singapore don't have.

00:49:36.170 --> 00:49:39.289
Tada, bro. Where you going? Maybe. Nobody can

00:49:39.289 --> 00:49:41.230
afford to even pay for four piece. What the fuck?

00:49:41.389 --> 00:49:43.909
Yeah, right. Back in the days, I heard like Stephen

00:49:43.909 --> 00:49:47.630
and, and, and rock. they got what 30p's ah my

00:49:47.630 --> 00:49:51.050
two favourite guys yeah 30p's man I tell you

00:49:51.050 --> 00:49:54.809
shout out to Rob and Steven Steven and Francis

00:49:54.809 --> 00:50:00.150
OG's ah yeah man old girls ok and then that is

00:50:00.150 --> 00:50:10.739
Rob lah old girls or OG That's good boss. You're

00:50:10.739 --> 00:50:14.739
going to answer to Rob? Okay, I'll go and drink

00:50:14.739 --> 00:50:17.420
with you one day. For Gabriel, the list keeps

00:50:17.420 --> 00:50:19.519
getting longer. I didn't throw up. That's why

00:50:19.519 --> 00:50:25.980
I... Okay. You either hate me or like me. No,

00:50:26.000 --> 00:50:29.199
no. We all love you. Don't worry about it. So,

00:50:29.280 --> 00:50:30.960
yeah, Bellini Grande, they were telling me that

00:50:30.960 --> 00:50:34.900
they had about 30 bands. It's always a dream

00:50:34.900 --> 00:50:41.099
and I've always been like, This guy who always

00:50:41.099 --> 00:50:46.480
wants to start a band and have a band of my own,

00:50:46.619 --> 00:50:51.980
have a sound, or play together. A sound that

00:50:51.980 --> 00:50:54.280
you actually would like to produce. Yeah, correct.

00:50:54.539 --> 00:50:59.820
I don't see that in Singapore. A lot of bands

00:50:59.820 --> 00:51:06.139
don't have their own sound. Unique to them. It

00:51:06.139 --> 00:51:09.480
used to be a long time ago. yeah but these days

00:51:09.480 --> 00:51:14.260
what makes people happy which is rubbish also

00:51:14.260 --> 00:51:20.679
like shout out to referee yeah so they were my

00:51:20.679 --> 00:51:23.960
actually my one of my inspiration right I always

00:51:23.960 --> 00:51:25.840
think that they have a sound of their own like

00:51:25.840 --> 00:51:28.579
Surav, Joanna, Simon yeah I just saw them perform

00:51:28.579 --> 00:51:31.239
a couple of weeks ago yeah so they have a sound

00:51:31.239 --> 00:51:34.219
of their own so I mean Joanna with the saxophone

00:51:35.449 --> 00:51:37.909
Nothing is hotter than a girl that's about that

00:51:37.909 --> 00:51:43.170
height playing a very long saxophone. What? Okay.

00:51:43.829 --> 00:51:45.889
But yeah. What's in your head, man? I mean...

00:51:45.889 --> 00:51:53.389
What? Alright, but... They're far, they're far.

00:51:55.130 --> 00:51:57.369
Yeah, but... I mean, the saxophone looks bigger

00:51:57.369 --> 00:51:59.469
than her. But never mind. But she plays a mean

00:51:59.469 --> 00:52:02.630
sax. Yeah. Man, that girl can blow. So that...

00:52:02.630 --> 00:52:07.300
That whole... that whole idea band idea concept

00:52:07.300 --> 00:52:12.639
uh came about and i i wanted to do uh uh something

00:52:12.639 --> 00:52:16.719
different so uh my concept of sound is always

00:52:16.719 --> 00:52:21.480
as a as a person from band yeah i always wanted

00:52:21.480 --> 00:52:24.219
a percussionist in my band okay to play like

00:52:24.219 --> 00:52:29.480
conga i mean suspended yeah man shaker and like

00:52:29.480 --> 00:52:32.170
doobie brothers you know It's actually the essence

00:52:32.170 --> 00:52:40.570
of the music. That we have the sound that I want

00:52:40.570 --> 00:52:44.349
to have. Yeah. So like you hear Carpenters, you

00:52:44.349 --> 00:52:46.030
know, like there are a lot of auxiliary parts,

00:52:46.230 --> 00:52:50.650
tem -tems, I mean, not all tem -tems, castanets.

00:52:50.769 --> 00:52:53.369
Okay. Yeah. I mean, we'll block this kind of

00:52:53.369 --> 00:52:58.269
stuff. Okay. Yeah. So. Shakers and can -cans

00:52:58.269 --> 00:52:59.929
and wood blocks. I just wanted to have a sound

00:52:59.929 --> 00:53:01.710
of my own. People who are not musicians, they're

00:53:01.710 --> 00:53:03.690
going to go, what kind of connotations are all

00:53:03.690 --> 00:53:07.409
these? I mean, it's a wood block. Eh, Terod,

00:53:07.510 --> 00:53:14.789
I need more drink. Okay, and so you brought in

00:53:14.789 --> 00:53:16.969
a percussionist. Yeah, yeah, which is my good

00:53:16.969 --> 00:53:19.710
friend from Irfan, who is a percussionist in

00:53:19.710 --> 00:53:24.010
Bellingham. He's from my band as well, in Dan

00:53:24.010 --> 00:53:27.960
Chow. Oh, he was from I don't want to say that

00:53:27.960 --> 00:53:30.699
name anymore. Okay, you're not pronouncing it

00:53:30.699 --> 00:53:32.059
right too. The way you pronounce it just now

00:53:32.059 --> 00:53:34.099
was different as well. Can you like stop saying

00:53:34.099 --> 00:53:35.659
that bloody name, please? Thank you very much.

00:53:36.639 --> 00:53:48.619
I can't tell. OCBC. We're really going to be

00:53:48.619 --> 00:53:52.079
in trouble, you know. I don't know what I'm going

00:53:52.079 --> 00:53:53.840
to do with the captions now. I don't know. I

00:53:53.840 --> 00:53:57.380
think this video will be like taken down by...

00:53:57.380 --> 00:54:02.059
Yeah, I think so too. Right. And he was from

00:54:02.059 --> 00:54:04.719
your band in school and then he joined you guys.

00:54:05.000 --> 00:54:08.480
Yeah. So this six -piece concept, I think it's

00:54:08.480 --> 00:54:11.000
full enough. Yeah. It's big enough. I mean...

00:54:11.230 --> 00:54:13.809
I wanted a horn section. How did Sebastian get

00:54:13.809 --> 00:54:16.409
involved, man? Oh, so actually, Bong and Sebastian,

00:54:16.550 --> 00:54:18.590
because... They came in together. Yeah, right

00:54:18.590 --> 00:54:21.210
after COVID, right? I actually did a show at

00:54:21.210 --> 00:54:23.670
Esplanade. The theme was songs we grew up with.

00:54:23.750 --> 00:54:25.769
So, Bong and Sebastian were actually in my band.

00:54:25.969 --> 00:54:28.650
Right. Yeah. And then, we played For St. Mary's

00:54:28.650 --> 00:54:30.690
with Bong. Yeah. Right. And then, he's like,

00:54:30.789 --> 00:54:32.130
eh, we need a guitarist. Who should we call?

00:54:32.289 --> 00:54:34.630
I'm like, call Sebastian. Because, you know,

00:54:34.710 --> 00:54:36.650
the whole band can... But that bugger always

00:54:36.650 --> 00:54:40.780
busy. Yeah. He plays for a lot of people, right?

00:54:40.920 --> 00:54:45.260
Yeah. He plays with everybody. Bellingham, how

00:54:45.260 --> 00:54:48.679
did the name come about? From Joy Spring for

00:54:48.679 --> 00:54:50.699
the two of you, what happened? Well, it went

00:54:50.699 --> 00:54:54.480
so far. Yeah. Because it's a story. So, okay.

00:54:54.719 --> 00:54:58.780
You wanted a name. Yes. Thinking of an English

00:54:58.780 --> 00:55:02.159
name, nice, nice English name. Something old

00:55:02.159 --> 00:55:05.320
school that relates to our music. Yeah. That

00:55:05.320 --> 00:55:08.869
we play. Searching Google and everything. Well,

00:55:08.929 --> 00:55:12.750
it's a nice old school name or something. Somehow

00:55:12.750 --> 00:55:17.989
Bellingham popped up. It's a name of an old town

00:55:17.989 --> 00:55:20.409
in England, I think. I believe. It's named after

00:55:20.409 --> 00:55:23.750
Jude Bellingham. Jude Bellingham. Oh gosh. Okay.

00:55:23.909 --> 00:55:32.110
But it's quite rubbish. Yeah. But I like England.

00:55:39.119 --> 00:55:42.199
That wanted list is really going to be, really

00:55:42.199 --> 00:55:44.460
going to be, see the little black thing flying

00:55:44.460 --> 00:55:47.619
around? There you go. There you go. Right. So

00:55:47.619 --> 00:55:52.039
it was, it was, it was name, name over, name,

00:55:52.179 --> 00:55:55.380
not name over, name after, I think an old clock

00:55:55.380 --> 00:55:57.880
tower, which rings a bell tower or something.

00:55:58.000 --> 00:56:00.840
It's called the Big Ben. No, different. I mean,

00:56:00.840 --> 00:56:04.639
another city. Other provinces in England. So

00:56:04.639 --> 00:56:08.480
I'm like, wow, this name rings. And it's an old

00:56:08.480 --> 00:56:12.659
town. So it sounds like something that you would

00:56:12.659 --> 00:56:15.239
want for during the period of the Great Gatsby.

00:56:15.300 --> 00:56:18.719
It sounds kind of like that. Yeah, but we do

00:56:18.719 --> 00:56:22.659
retro stuff. Retro pop, 60s, 50s, 60s. So you

00:56:22.659 --> 00:56:24.559
decided on Bellingham. So is it called Bellingham

00:56:24.559 --> 00:56:28.320
or Bellingham Band? Bellingham. Bellingham, okay.

00:56:28.519 --> 00:56:34.500
Yeah. Okay. And you guys, and I went for that

00:56:34.500 --> 00:56:36.579
evening. You had your anniversary. Oh, yeah,

00:56:36.599 --> 00:56:38.639
yeah, yeah. I thought it was crazy. Yeah, and

00:56:38.639 --> 00:56:41.300
you guys played Carpenters, you know. And honestly,

00:56:41.420 --> 00:56:42.980
I spent most of the evening there alone until

00:56:42.980 --> 00:56:45.699
my wife joined me later on. And I was like, no,

00:56:45.699 --> 00:56:50.989
they're doing this. I kind of saw. Yeah, because,

00:56:51.150 --> 00:56:53.730
because, because man, the nostalgia was just

00:56:53.730 --> 00:56:55.650
getting to me, man. I mean, it was like, wow.

00:56:56.449 --> 00:56:59.369
And I also realized that you guys are so flexible

00:56:59.369 --> 00:57:01.730
that the band can be two piece, three piece,

00:57:01.869 --> 00:57:04.710
the full band, six piece. That's one of the like,

00:57:04.730 --> 00:57:07.250
like good things about, about this band because

00:57:07.250 --> 00:57:11.150
if I cannot make it, I'll get set in as a guitarist.

00:57:11.190 --> 00:57:13.789
I mean, the sound will be different, but I mean,

00:57:13.829 --> 00:57:18.360
we write charts for our song. I mean, part of

00:57:18.360 --> 00:57:21.940
it, some of it. So the band's a business? Yeah,

00:57:21.940 --> 00:57:23.960
I mean. It's like a company? Is it a company?

00:57:24.159 --> 00:57:27.599
No, no, it's not a company. Is it an entity that

00:57:27.599 --> 00:57:29.719
you guys incorporate? It's run under my events

00:57:29.719 --> 00:57:33.219
company, which we own. So whatever it is, the

00:57:33.219 --> 00:57:35.300
band is so flexible that no matter what, Bellingham

00:57:35.300 --> 00:57:38.059
can always be in business, even if the client

00:57:38.059 --> 00:57:40.079
has a budget and space for two piece, three piece,

00:57:40.219 --> 00:57:42.719
four piece, six piece. So no matter what, the

00:57:42.719 --> 00:57:45.960
band is always viable. We always try to sell

00:57:45.960 --> 00:57:51.639
the full band. Smart fuck. So it's, I mean, because

00:57:51.639 --> 00:57:54.340
this year I have a percussionist. If Clarence

00:57:54.340 --> 00:57:56.619
can't make it, I can put a fan in and play like

00:57:56.619 --> 00:58:00.300
a cajon or conga. Different sound. What else

00:58:00.300 --> 00:58:02.099
are you going to say? Cajon, conga, woodblock.

00:58:02.340 --> 00:58:05.360
Bongo. Bongo. Shake, egg shakers. Egg shaker.

00:58:05.559 --> 00:58:08.659
What else? Egg shaker. Egg shaker. Egg shaker.

00:58:08.659 --> 00:58:10.480
You shake that? The shaker like that? The shaker

00:58:10.480 --> 00:58:26.059
lah, shaker. Yeah, yeah, okay. you guys did the

00:58:26.059 --> 00:58:28.199
Carpenters thing which we heard just now which

00:58:28.199 --> 00:58:30.400
is beautiful I must say again and again and again

00:58:30.400 --> 00:58:36.619
and I hear that you have something planned that's

00:58:36.619 --> 00:58:41.360
coming up for the band so the next show we are

00:58:41.360 --> 00:58:44.250
going to do That's a full band. 15th of June.

00:58:45.429 --> 00:58:51.929
Father's Day. ABBA tribute. Wait. Carpenters

00:58:51.929 --> 00:58:57.289
from the 70s. ABBA from the 70s. What about the

00:58:57.289 --> 00:58:59.469
70s do you guys have such a fucking hard -on

00:58:59.469 --> 00:59:02.690
about? I think 70s has the best music. Yes. Wow.

00:59:02.750 --> 00:59:05.010
Has the best sound. That's a statement. Yeah.

00:59:05.050 --> 00:59:09.929
That's true. I mean, generally, I enjoy the 70s

00:59:09.929 --> 00:59:16.159
music. can we expect to have oh gosh yeah tell

00:59:16.159 --> 00:59:19.420
me Earth and Fire get turned on I was at the

00:59:19.420 --> 00:59:21.900
concert man I tell you it was freaking awesome

00:59:21.900 --> 00:59:27.650
which one the the Mackie or what Mackie The original

00:59:27.650 --> 00:59:29.949
Earth, Wind & Fire? No, no, no. Original Earth,

00:59:30.869 --> 00:59:34.090
Wind & Fire. Oh, I attended. The one at the Indoor

00:59:34.090 --> 00:59:36.710
Stadium years ago. Oh, I attended the little

00:59:36.710 --> 00:59:39.489
one, which is the tribute, L. McKee. No, no,

00:59:39.489 --> 00:59:42.389
this is not the tribute band. This is the band.

00:59:43.289 --> 00:59:46.250
Sometimes I feel that I'm too young because I

00:59:46.250 --> 00:59:48.289
don't get to experience all this. Because all

00:59:48.289 --> 00:59:50.510
the favorite artists are dying. Yeah, you're

00:59:50.510 --> 00:59:53.230
very right. Yeah, you're very right. I was at

00:59:53.230 --> 00:59:55.289
James Ingram. I was telling Robert Fernando he

00:59:55.289 --> 00:59:57.250
was here last week. We are going to Toto on Tuesday.

00:59:57.610 --> 01:00:01.110
I was at Toto. I mean, we just, we watched the

01:00:01.110 --> 01:00:05.309
same one. Hang on, hang on. I was at Toto with

01:00:05.309 --> 01:00:08.469
Steve Lukita seated where you are. Oh shit. Playing.

01:00:09.389 --> 01:00:13.070
Wah. So I didn't have to go for Toto this time

01:00:13.070 --> 01:00:16.650
around because I was already like this. Wah,

01:00:16.769 --> 01:00:19.130
that's close. Yeah, it was at the old Harbour

01:00:19.130 --> 01:00:25.329
Pavilion and it was free. don't ask me now but

01:00:25.329 --> 01:00:29.110
it was free and it was awesome you're gonna have

01:00:29.110 --> 01:00:30.989
you're gonna have a great time watching yeah

01:00:30.989 --> 01:00:33.469
yeah yeah we did yeah so if you're saying the

01:00:33.469 --> 01:00:36.670
70s just give me a brief what what about the

01:00:36.670 --> 01:00:46.889
70s man BGs as well disco era the sound the concept

01:00:46.889 --> 01:00:51.800
of the the 70s sound non -electronic very raw

01:00:51.800 --> 01:00:54.840
talent all talent right organic uh it's filled

01:00:54.840 --> 01:00:58.500
up with uh instrumentation strings like you have

01:00:58.500 --> 01:01:01.079
horns you have it's a very big band concept kind

01:01:01.079 --> 01:01:03.739
of yeah yeah all the bands are big like even

01:01:03.739 --> 01:01:07.280
carpenters i wish one day like someone who have

01:01:07.280 --> 01:01:10.460
this just this budget or i mean yeah to sponsor

01:01:10.460 --> 01:01:13.280
and let us do a carpenter's tribute with a full

01:01:13.280 --> 01:01:15.960
orchestra even like like the old i mean i hate

01:01:15.960 --> 01:01:17.519
to say it i mean i hate to say there's nothing

01:01:17.519 --> 01:01:19.079
wrong with saying it but some people will go

01:01:19.079 --> 01:01:23.159
what Even people, solo artists like Barry Manilow,

01:01:23.159 --> 01:01:26.440
you know, the backup these guys had was a huge

01:01:26.440 --> 01:01:32.179
sound. Barry Manilow, I write the songs. I write

01:01:32.179 --> 01:01:35.579
the songs, yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a trumpet,

01:01:35.679 --> 01:01:37.420
there's a whole orchestra. Towards the middle

01:01:37.420 --> 01:01:39.179
of the song onwards is like the whole orchestra.

01:01:39.199 --> 01:01:44.159
I mean, I'm from band, I'm from orchestra background,

01:01:44.159 --> 01:01:46.820
so I always like the sound. You know, that's

01:01:46.820 --> 01:01:49.139
something I told Stephen and Rob this when they

01:01:49.139 --> 01:01:51.719
were on the show. One of my things I need to

01:01:51.719 --> 01:01:54.079
check off my bucket list would be to sing with

01:01:54.079 --> 01:01:57.619
a big band. Oh my God. Yes, for me too. I mean,

01:01:57.639 --> 01:02:02.519
if you ever, if you ever, if you get a big band

01:02:02.519 --> 01:02:04.940
and ever get an orchestra or what, well, please

01:02:04.940 --> 01:02:07.179
invite me. Invite my band. I don't think it ever

01:02:07.179 --> 01:02:09.400
happened for me. You know, I don't see why and

01:02:09.400 --> 01:02:11.380
how that would happen. Okay, never mind. I'll

01:02:11.380 --> 01:02:14.659
make it happen. Please just. give me an opportunity,

01:02:14.840 --> 01:02:17.699
one song. Just let me sing one song. Let's see,

01:02:17.739 --> 01:02:20.300
let's see. So that I can tell myself that I finally

01:02:20.300 --> 01:02:22.119
did something. In the coming years. Calling for

01:02:22.119 --> 01:02:29.539
sponsors. 1 -800 -999. But the 70s, 70s are groovy,

01:02:29.679 --> 01:02:33.199
man. Yeah, the groovy, the bass, the funk. And

01:02:33.199 --> 01:02:34.840
you know, if you take a look at, you know, with

01:02:34.840 --> 01:02:36.400
this show, when this episode launches, take a

01:02:36.400 --> 01:02:38.019
look at your thumbnail that I designed, man.

01:02:38.039 --> 01:02:43.719
It was 70s. Oh, shit. Okay. Nice. Speaking of

01:02:43.719 --> 01:02:46.139
ABBA, I mean, I'm really going to look forward

01:02:46.139 --> 01:02:49.300
to that one. You know, I mean, it's so timeless,

01:02:49.440 --> 01:02:53.219
these two. Yeah. And my goodness, what's the

01:02:53.219 --> 01:02:57.340
name? Anita, is it Anika? Is the blonde, Swedish

01:02:57.340 --> 01:03:02.739
concrete blonde. What? What was that? Yeah, I

01:03:02.739 --> 01:03:05.500
killed a fly. What the? Did you? Oh, thank you.

01:03:08.880 --> 01:03:13.820
Why, why, why ABBA? There's only one female lead

01:03:13.820 --> 01:03:18.280
you've got. No, we are getting a... We're getting

01:03:18.280 --> 01:03:20.159
our friends from Flower Power. Yeah, Flower Power

01:03:20.159 --> 01:03:25.019
to their four -piece girl group. So they're all

01:03:25.019 --> 01:03:28.019
four coming? No, no. So it's one. Just two of

01:03:28.019 --> 01:03:30.820
them to do like backup harmonies. Oh my god,

01:03:30.900 --> 01:03:34.480
I don't really hear them. So the guy part, the

01:03:34.480 --> 01:03:36.360
male part, I'll try and sing. I'm not a good

01:03:36.360 --> 01:03:40.719
singer. I'm just a... No, but he seconds. His

01:03:40.719 --> 01:03:43.320
seconds are quite on point, man. It's on point.

01:03:43.440 --> 01:03:45.500
Yeah, I was listening to you just now and I was

01:03:45.500 --> 01:03:46.679
going, fuck that, I'm not going to do seconds

01:03:46.679 --> 01:03:49.420
because my seconds are always off point. But

01:03:49.420 --> 01:03:50.719
you were doing the seconds just now. I think

01:03:50.719 --> 01:03:52.619
I was off point as well, man. No, no, no, you

01:03:52.619 --> 01:03:54.239
were quite there, man. Just that we were, our

01:03:54.239 --> 01:03:55.480
parts were all here while you were there. It's

01:03:55.480 --> 01:03:58.260
okay. It's all jamming. Later on, you guys will

01:03:58.260 --> 01:03:59.960
be listening to us sing, okay? Because we really

01:03:59.960 --> 01:04:07.079
recorded that earlier on. If, yeah. Yeah, so,

01:04:07.199 --> 01:04:11.130
so we have a big band on, on the, 15th, yeah.

01:04:11.630 --> 01:04:13.909
Where will you guys be playing? The Blackbird

01:04:13.909 --> 01:04:18.869
at 8 Lock Road. You have to mention the address

01:04:18.869 --> 01:04:22.530
also. Blackbird, Singapore. Okay? The Blackbird.

01:04:22.690 --> 01:04:24.650
You can go and Google and go and find your, get

01:04:24.650 --> 01:04:30.570
your answers there. So, okay, okay. You're now

01:04:30.570 --> 01:04:35.670
planning a wedding. Many other fan. All right,

01:04:35.670 --> 01:04:42.469
brother. Yeah. Yeah. By association. Do you watch

01:04:42.469 --> 01:04:46.250
the game? The Crystal Palace game? No, no, no.

01:04:46.389 --> 01:04:48.769
Which one? No. The Crystal Palace game. I went

01:04:48.769 --> 01:04:53.309
there. I know. That was a sad game. But the recent

01:04:53.309 --> 01:04:57.110
Europa League. Lion, lion. Yeah, yeah. Leon,

01:04:57.269 --> 01:05:00.269
Leon, Leon. Hey, you lion. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:05:00.429 --> 01:05:02.889
Then after that, come back to the EPL. Yeah,

01:05:03.030 --> 01:05:05.449
never mind. We are going to win the Europa League.

01:05:05.570 --> 01:05:10.119
Mark my word. I'm scared. I always jinx everything.

01:05:10.460 --> 01:05:13.960
Yeah, I know. Did you see me rolling my eyeballs?

01:05:14.079 --> 01:05:16.519
Can you say Liverpool? Liverpool shit. Please

01:05:16.519 --> 01:05:18.519
do not even mention that name. Please don't mention

01:05:18.519 --> 01:05:20.679
that football club's name. Your cup like Liverpool

01:05:20.679 --> 01:05:25.980
cup. Don't joke. What is that? Man of the match.

01:05:27.099 --> 01:05:29.840
Man of the match. Shut up. I do not have anything

01:05:29.840 --> 01:05:35.159
that scowls your hair. Nothing smelly. So you

01:05:35.159 --> 01:05:38.739
propose. To her. At Old Trafford. At Old Trafford.

01:05:38.940 --> 01:05:41.599
Right next to the pitch. Yeah, man. I almost

01:05:41.599 --> 01:05:43.219
fell down. You know, Old Trafford pitch got the

01:05:43.219 --> 01:05:46.960
bloody slope busted. I knew. I knew that. I'm

01:05:46.960 --> 01:05:49.159
like, wow, I'm somewhat trembling, boss. Did

01:05:49.159 --> 01:05:51.159
you know that this was going to happen? No, I

01:05:51.159 --> 01:05:52.840
had no idea because I thought the trip was supposed

01:05:52.840 --> 01:06:00.400
to be his 30th birthday trip. So, how was it

01:06:00.400 --> 01:06:04.019
for you, man? It was crazy. Yeah. I really wasn't

01:06:04.019 --> 01:06:05.539
expecting it. Something you'll remember for life,

01:06:05.599 --> 01:06:10.440
right? I see the tears in her eyes. But yeah,

01:06:10.460 --> 01:06:12.500
the bloody slope there. After that, we lost the

01:06:12.500 --> 01:06:15.420
game. I knew down precisely, but I won there.

01:06:16.420 --> 01:06:19.360
They lost, but I won. I win. At least I win there.

01:06:20.940 --> 01:06:24.079
Lucky I never propose on match day, boss. If

01:06:24.079 --> 01:06:25.800
I propose on match day, I think I... Don't know

01:06:25.800 --> 01:06:28.820
whether to laugh or cry. I shag. No, but the

01:06:28.820 --> 01:06:31.400
people around there, what they want. Yeah, everybody

01:06:31.400 --> 01:06:35.639
was like... Really? Who was around? We went for

01:06:35.639 --> 01:06:37.639
the tour. We went for the tour. The menu tour

01:06:37.639 --> 01:06:41.260
was about 30 people. Yeah. So we went there.

01:06:41.420 --> 01:06:43.179
Wah, this girl damn good. I don't know who are

01:06:43.179 --> 01:06:46.360
you, but yeah. But thanks for helping me video.

01:06:46.579 --> 01:06:49.260
I passed the phone to her. I passed my phone

01:06:49.260 --> 01:06:51.539
to her. I just said, can you help me take a photo?

01:06:52.559 --> 01:06:56.860
Then after that, I pressed to video. Then I passed

01:06:56.860 --> 01:07:00.460
to her. Then I action. Then wah, she recorded

01:07:00.460 --> 01:07:03.239
everything. She got the memo, man. Yeah, she

01:07:03.239 --> 01:07:05.900
got the memo. That's pretty cool, man. I was

01:07:05.900 --> 01:07:08.360
watching it over and over again. And like, seriously,

01:07:08.739 --> 01:07:12.619
seriously, yeah? No, I shout out to you. I wouldn't

01:07:12.619 --> 01:07:14.900
be the one crying. The right one started crying.

01:07:15.139 --> 01:07:17.920
But it was nice because even the music, you guys,

01:07:18.000 --> 01:07:20.760
you put it in the background. Yeah, it was really

01:07:20.760 --> 01:07:24.559
nice. Okay. I'm looking through my notes because

01:07:24.559 --> 01:07:27.099
I'm seeing it's anything I missed out here. Because

01:07:27.099 --> 01:07:29.519
we just kept on talking all the way. It's fun.

01:07:29.820 --> 01:07:35.219
We need to do another session. I don't mind actually.

01:07:35.360 --> 01:07:41.280
Not enough, boss. Okay. Wow. Actually, we covered

01:07:41.280 --> 01:07:45.449
practically everything. any plans for building

01:07:45.449 --> 01:07:47.349
and do you guys see this as something really

01:07:47.349 --> 01:07:50.349
long term yeah yeah i'm looking this as a long

01:07:50.349 --> 01:07:53.550
-term uh project as a band uh like i said you

01:07:53.550 --> 01:07:55.150
think there's hope man because you know looking

01:07:55.150 --> 01:07:58.090
at a nice team in the form i mean i'm i'm not

01:07:58.090 --> 01:08:02.010
i'm not begging on uh on the the pubs and all

01:08:02.010 --> 01:08:04.789
in there i'm i really want to do like shows concerts

01:08:04.789 --> 01:08:08.750
yeah so let's see laugh i mean this this year

01:08:08.750 --> 01:08:12.489
we are we are we are doing the apple Last year

01:08:12.489 --> 01:08:17.250
we did Carpenters. So next year hopefully we

01:08:17.250 --> 01:08:39.140
move forward and we do something bigger. I'm

01:08:39.140 --> 01:08:45.500
going away. Yeah, you're going away. One click.

01:08:47.939 --> 01:08:51.560
Okay, now. Yeah, so next year, hopefully we do

01:08:51.560 --> 01:08:56.029
something bigger. Esplanade or... or any anywhere

01:08:56.029 --> 01:08:59.069
like i i'm going to try to find 30ps put them

01:08:59.069 --> 01:09:05.210
on the left so that's why we have all the videos

01:09:05.210 --> 01:09:07.710
i'm i'm trying to like okay everything let me

01:09:07.710 --> 01:09:09.810
do this okay okay okay for anyone here watching

01:09:09.810 --> 01:09:12.329
if you want to sponsor a 30 piece band for a

01:09:12.329 --> 01:09:17.909
fantastic concert 20 is okay now we are not going

01:09:17.909 --> 01:09:20.989
to be that that bad okay so anyone who's out

01:09:20.989 --> 01:09:23.489
there who want to sponsor Bellingham. You know,

01:09:23.489 --> 01:09:26.630
so I also want to sing one song, one song. 20

01:09:26.630 --> 01:09:29.390
piece, okay? Please, all you have to do is just

01:09:29.390 --> 01:09:34.930
let me know. You can reach out to me, let me

01:09:34.930 --> 01:09:37.350
know, man, and we can talk about how we can talk

01:09:37.350 --> 01:09:42.090
about the tickets. Yeah, okay? Hopefully, hopefully

01:09:42.090 --> 01:09:45.369
next year we do something big. Yeah, man, I mean,

01:09:45.369 --> 01:09:48.069
I really feel, this is my tribute to you guys.

01:09:48.130 --> 01:09:52.060
I think we, I would want to do a 70s show. 70s

01:09:52.060 --> 01:09:57.500
tribute or like do all the 70s hits and okay

01:09:57.500 --> 01:10:00.539
they want me to tie underwear one yeah it's fine

01:10:00.539 --> 01:10:05.479
tight underwear not tie underwear tight underwear

01:10:05.479 --> 01:10:11.600
something wrong in this video my drink my drink

01:10:11.600 --> 01:10:21.289
I think a bit drunk tight underwear nobody gets

01:10:21.289 --> 01:10:25.750
oh gosh my uh yeah i told steven and francis

01:10:25.750 --> 01:10:30.010
steven steven and rob steven and rob that uh

01:10:30.010 --> 01:10:33.489
that i've lost my falsetto yeah yeah i used to

01:10:33.489 --> 01:10:36.890
be able to do all that you know when my 20s well

01:10:36.890 --> 01:10:39.270
after that was all gone shit man when you get

01:10:39.270 --> 01:10:42.649
older yeah when you get older you lose it you

01:10:42.649 --> 01:10:44.770
know you never drink is it maybe Actually, to

01:10:44.770 --> 01:10:47.289
be honest with you, I drink only on occasions.

01:10:47.489 --> 01:10:51.189
Maybe that's why. Excuse me? You're Patricia

01:10:51.189 --> 01:10:53.810
and you don't drink? Yeah. You're not just that.

01:10:53.890 --> 01:10:56.229
You cannot say that. I've got a lot of Eurasian

01:10:56.229 --> 01:10:56.970
friends. I've got a lot of Eurasian friends.

01:10:57.010 --> 01:11:05.220
I've got a lot of Eurasian friends. sorry but

01:11:05.220 --> 01:11:09.579
he's like this yeah shout out to winter but nice

01:11:09.579 --> 01:11:13.340
guy yeah super talent yeah super tell us so one

01:11:13.340 --> 01:11:16.439
of my one of the persons i looked up to so you're

01:11:16.439 --> 01:11:18.939
looking at an alternative thing rather than than

01:11:18.939 --> 01:11:21.039
staying with the pups and bars and clubs i mean

01:11:21.039 --> 01:11:23.460
because we are a big band i mean in singapore

01:11:23.460 --> 01:11:25.800
right now these days right you really don't get

01:11:25.800 --> 01:11:29.680
any opportunities to have a six piece. It's so

01:11:29.680 --> 01:11:32.100
hard to even like get four people on the stage.

01:11:32.399 --> 01:11:34.479
Yeah, you're right. You're right. Like people,

01:11:34.659 --> 01:11:37.119
come on lah. I mean, back in the days. Since

01:11:37.119 --> 01:11:39.500
COVID. I mean like back in the days, right? All

01:11:39.500 --> 01:11:41.840
the party bands, all the good bands were full

01:11:41.840 --> 01:11:45.039
bands. Yeah. The sound is different. Before,

01:11:45.039 --> 01:11:47.340
I remember Jason Shahoo and Hussein and they

01:11:47.340 --> 01:11:50.000
were on the show. And Gingerbread was one of

01:11:50.000 --> 01:11:52.399
the bands I grew up watching. Yeah, a long time

01:11:52.399 --> 01:11:57.779
ago when I was in my teens. And I'm so glad to

01:11:57.779 --> 01:11:59.220
say that they're my friends and I love them to

01:11:59.220 --> 01:12:01.579
bits. You know, I work closely with Jason quite

01:12:01.579 --> 01:12:08.399
often. And they even became a show band. You

01:12:08.399 --> 01:12:10.880
know, there were so many show bands. Even before

01:12:10.880 --> 01:12:15.239
Energy, when Douglas was with Culture Shock,

01:12:15.500 --> 01:12:18.359
that was a hell of a show band too. And when

01:12:18.359 --> 01:12:20.960
Dennis Fu opened at the Boiler Room, I mean at

01:12:20.960 --> 01:12:26.029
St. James, and you see Gino, And such a big band

01:12:26.029 --> 01:12:28.750
on stage and they had sets and they had shows.

01:12:29.189 --> 01:12:31.489
They're backup singers. They got all kinds of

01:12:31.489 --> 01:12:35.430
things going on. And those days were marvelous.

01:12:35.529 --> 01:12:39.510
Music was so vibrant. It was pure entertainment.

01:12:40.109 --> 01:12:43.329
You think entertainment. You think, how are we

01:12:43.329 --> 01:12:44.609
going to make sure people are really going to

01:12:44.609 --> 01:12:47.750
enjoy that? And that's something that's so missing

01:12:47.750 --> 01:12:51.529
today. That's one of the reasons I started the

01:12:51.529 --> 01:12:56.399
band as well. I mean, I don't, I don't eventually

01:12:56.399 --> 01:12:59.000
want my band to be a show band, show band kind

01:12:59.000 --> 01:13:01.119
of thing. Like, you know, like dance. But bringing

01:13:01.119 --> 01:13:03.380
your talent. But yeah, I just, I just want to

01:13:03.380 --> 01:13:05.880
do, like, I just serve the music. Yeah, sure,

01:13:05.920 --> 01:13:08.279
sure. Correct. It's like the Doobie Brothers,

01:13:08.439 --> 01:13:10.899
man. They're not a show band, but they're everyone's

01:13:10.899 --> 01:13:14.100
talent. Even Bee Gees, it's not really a dancey

01:13:14.100 --> 01:13:17.020
show band kind of. Yeah, but Sazer Night Fever

01:13:17.020 --> 01:13:21.789
helped out a lot in the movie. As I said, this

01:13:21.789 --> 01:13:25.250
is my tribute to the band, to both of you and

01:13:25.250 --> 01:13:27.689
the rest of your band members, Bellingham. Shout

01:13:27.689 --> 01:13:29.590
out to everyone. Yeah, really. Shout out to you

01:13:29.590 --> 01:13:32.189
guys. It's my tribute to you because I really

01:13:32.189 --> 01:13:35.409
believe that the future of music in Singapore

01:13:35.409 --> 01:13:40.949
belongs to guys like you guys. I had Owen Lee

01:13:40.949 --> 01:13:43.670
here, and Owen is a very young guy. I know him.

01:13:43.670 --> 01:13:46.850
He's super talented. And then you guys as well.

01:13:48.159 --> 01:13:51.300
guys like Afwan you know the future of music

01:13:51.300 --> 01:13:55.699
to take things forward in my mind are guys like

01:13:55.699 --> 01:13:57.699
you yeah sometimes I'm a bit scared of what?

01:13:57.739 --> 01:14:00.319
I'm a bit scared of what? 20 years down the road

01:14:00.319 --> 01:14:03.489
nobody listens to the retro stuff anymore I actually

01:14:03.489 --> 01:14:08.470
don't think so I really think like in the younger

01:14:08.470 --> 01:14:11.010
generation like there are listeners who exist

01:14:11.010 --> 01:14:13.949
it's just that they don't come out to party anymore

01:14:13.949 --> 01:14:16.750
yeah you know it's funny because a lot of young

01:14:16.750 --> 01:14:19.670
people actually online you can see them that

01:14:19.670 --> 01:14:22.850
they really enjoy retro music more than they

01:14:22.850 --> 01:14:26.260
do this stuff today because things were so different

01:14:26.260 --> 01:14:30.039
it sounds so good yeah have you seen just genuine

01:14:30.039 --> 01:14:33.859
yeah it is it's all raw as you said everything

01:14:33.859 --> 01:14:36.640
is raw and then there came a time when electronic

01:14:36.640 --> 01:14:40.100
music became the thing the batch modes or electronic

01:14:40.100 --> 01:14:44.460
music that's why I mean like the later 80s or

01:14:44.460 --> 01:14:49.720
maybe the mid 80s when he got a bit more but

01:14:49.720 --> 01:14:52.619
just give that era of mine some credit yeah yeah

01:14:52.619 --> 01:14:55.199
i mean we had a whole notes also in the 80s yeah

01:14:55.199 --> 01:14:58.800
but i mean where they have the scene base and

01:14:58.800 --> 01:15:01.220
all yeah yeah yeah i think i mean that's why

01:15:01.220 --> 01:15:04.020
i prefer the 70s because i mean it's still like

01:15:04.020 --> 01:15:06.899
instruments no i agree i mean i i i'm right but

01:15:06.899 --> 01:15:09.739
i mean i love the 80s i love i love the 70s especially

01:15:09.739 --> 01:15:13.180
for its funk you know i love earth and fire man

01:15:13.180 --> 01:15:16.340
i mean funk man i mean it got that gets to me

01:15:16.340 --> 01:15:20.420
man you know um um yeah so i agree with you uh

01:15:20.420 --> 01:15:23.300
i enjoy part of the 80s because i i i grew up

01:15:23.300 --> 01:15:26.260
in the 80s i partied in the 90s and i listened

01:15:26.260 --> 01:15:28.600
to me that kind of music all the old sound when

01:15:28.600 --> 01:15:30.899
my when i was a kid my uncles were playing songs

01:15:30.899 --> 01:15:33.939
in the 60s and 70s so i completely can i completely

01:15:33.939 --> 01:15:37.960
concur with you you know uh and yeah please don't

01:15:37.960 --> 01:15:41.069
don't worry about are these songs going to be,

01:15:41.109 --> 01:15:45.449
you know, outdated? Just generally in music.

01:15:46.250 --> 01:15:49.329
No, it won't be. Like you say, it's dying. It's

01:15:49.329 --> 01:15:52.029
already dying now. I don't think it's dying just

01:15:52.029 --> 01:15:53.489
because you don't listen, you don't hear it on

01:15:53.489 --> 01:15:57.590
vintage radio on Sundays and on Gold 905. I mean,

01:15:57.609 --> 01:16:00.130
my songs are being played on that damn station

01:16:00.130 --> 01:16:03.369
now, you know, on that particular show. And I'm

01:16:03.369 --> 01:16:07.569
going like, what? But then again, to be fair

01:16:07.569 --> 01:16:10.359
to the station, they also play, the real old

01:16:10.359 --> 01:16:13.119
stuff. They still do. You know, I don't think

01:16:13.119 --> 01:16:15.399
it's going to go out of fashion. And if it does,

01:16:15.520 --> 01:16:18.300
then we do something about it. Yeah. We can always

01:16:18.300 --> 01:16:19.600
do something because you don't know how things

01:16:19.600 --> 01:16:21.800
are going to evolve in the next 10, 15, 20 years.

01:16:21.960 --> 01:16:24.340
You know, right now, podcasts seem to be the

01:16:24.340 --> 01:16:26.920
in thing now. I mean, but it has been for decades

01:16:26.920 --> 01:16:30.060
as well. Yeah. However, in the future, we don't

01:16:30.060 --> 01:16:31.939
know what's going to happen. Would radio stations

01:16:31.939 --> 01:16:33.619
still survive or are they just going to be there

01:16:33.619 --> 01:16:36.720
for national emergency purposes? Right? So we

01:16:36.720 --> 01:16:41.920
got to understand that. We can do something about

01:16:41.920 --> 01:16:46.779
it. Guys like you can keep it alive. So you have

01:16:46.779 --> 01:16:49.260
to tell yourself, it's not about the marketplace

01:16:49.260 --> 01:16:53.140
determining things for you. You determine the

01:16:53.140 --> 01:16:57.380
marketplace. You make that market grow. It belongs

01:16:57.380 --> 01:17:02.500
to you. Yeah. Not that you belong to it. Yeah,

01:17:05.199 --> 01:17:09.300
man, we're going to keep the dream alive. Okay.

01:17:09.600 --> 01:17:13.060
I can hear Paul McCartney after that. Right,

01:17:13.100 --> 01:17:15.199
guys. I really appreciate your time and spending

01:17:15.199 --> 01:17:17.000
time here with me. It's been really fun. Yeah.

01:17:17.180 --> 01:17:18.619
I really hope we're not going to get screwed

01:17:18.619 --> 01:17:22.560
over somehow by who knows God knows who. I mean,

01:17:22.680 --> 01:17:26.079
your list has gone really long. When you walk

01:17:26.079 --> 01:17:28.239
the streets, man, just watch your back, dude.

01:17:29.079 --> 01:17:33.079
Especially when you go in the water. Huh? Why

01:17:33.079 --> 01:17:38.590
you got fish? Yeah, I think so. You know, the

01:17:38.590 --> 01:17:40.829
guys who are listening to this or watching this

01:17:40.829 --> 01:17:42.710
show, this particular episode, they're going

01:17:42.710 --> 01:17:44.250
to get frustrated about this fish thing because

01:17:44.250 --> 01:17:45.710
we don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

01:17:45.750 --> 01:17:46.810
We don't know why you're laughing about this

01:17:46.810 --> 01:17:48.510
fish thing. If that's not enough, they can go

01:17:48.510 --> 01:17:53.789
and find out. I find a laugh at this. Sorry about

01:17:53.789 --> 01:17:55.850
all the private jokes, people, but we really

01:17:55.850 --> 01:17:58.770
had to bleep that name out. Otherwise... And

01:17:58.770 --> 01:18:00.909
everything else. Do you know when it's still

01:18:00.909 --> 01:18:05.979
alive? should be lah okay lah if he's still alive

01:18:05.979 --> 01:18:09.600
then I better bleep out that name should be lah

01:18:09.600 --> 01:18:15.859
I don't know boss alamak well okay anyway thanks

01:18:15.859 --> 01:18:19.140
for being here I really wish you guys and the

01:18:19.140 --> 01:18:22.960
band all the very very best keep me updated I'm

01:18:22.960 --> 01:18:26.460
a fan yeah I'm a fan okay and I'd like to really

01:18:26.460 --> 01:18:28.720
come and watch you guys play you know any new

01:18:28.720 --> 01:18:30.750
stuff you guys come up with let me know Thank

01:18:30.750 --> 01:18:32.350
you for having us. And I'm looking forward to

01:18:32.350 --> 01:18:34.270
working with you guys on the upcoming concert

01:18:34.270 --> 01:18:36.489
soon. Yeah. I'm not going to mention it on this

01:18:36.489 --> 01:18:38.850
particular show because there's a right time

01:18:38.850 --> 01:18:41.489
and place for us to blast that one. Yeah. Hope

01:18:41.489 --> 01:18:44.850
to be back. Hope to be back. Hope to be back.

01:18:45.350 --> 01:18:50.079
Hope to be... What's he saying? he hopes to come

01:18:50.079 --> 01:18:54.100
back oh yeah hope to be back hope to be back

01:18:54.100 --> 01:18:58.100
to talk again we all see what happens to the

01:18:58.100 --> 01:18:59.779
views first whether or not we get screwed online

01:18:59.779 --> 01:19:02.539
because if we don't get I will get you back yeah

01:19:02.539 --> 01:19:06.380
we squeeze like you can see on my leg you'd be

01:19:06.380 --> 01:19:08.640
very surprised bong bong in front of the camera

01:19:08.640 --> 01:19:12.319
bong is actually very very decent no la that's

01:19:12.319 --> 01:19:14.039
because he's talking about his serious stuff

01:19:14.039 --> 01:19:16.840
la yeah you must you put him here with a few

01:19:16.840 --> 01:19:20.760
pints of beer It's a different story. Bellingham,

01:19:20.920 --> 01:19:23.579
you put him... Okay, so the next round, you tell

01:19:23.579 --> 01:19:25.800
me which other member of the band you want to

01:19:25.800 --> 01:19:28.279
bring along on the show. Okay? Yeah, Bong. Bong.

01:19:29.199 --> 01:19:33.560
Bong, man. I'll see you later, Bongster. The

01:19:33.560 --> 01:19:37.000
Bongster. Bong, Bong. I'm seeing you later. Okay.

01:19:37.560 --> 01:19:41.300
Okay, everybody. Thank you for watching the Chris

01:19:41.300 --> 01:19:44.699
Hansen Conversation on this tribute show to Bellingham.

01:19:44.779 --> 01:19:49.180
We're celebrating Bellingham. through their two

01:19:49.180 --> 01:19:53.399
members, Gabriel and Deborah. We are leaving

01:19:53.399 --> 01:19:55.859
you with a song we recorded earlier. We hope

01:19:55.859 --> 01:20:02.000
you enjoy that one. Oh dear. It is also our way

01:20:02.000 --> 01:20:06.039
of paying tribute to the late His Holiness, Pope

01:20:06.039 --> 01:20:11.020
Francis and our Lasallian brother, Brother Nicholas

01:20:11.020 --> 01:20:14.560
Seed. They both passed away recently and yesterday.

01:20:15.100 --> 01:20:18.119
Both of them actually had their funerals, respectively,

01:20:18.140 --> 01:20:23.899
on the same day. And very well loved. Where Brother

01:20:23.899 --> 01:20:27.319
Nicholas is concerned, he's very well loved by

01:20:27.319 --> 01:20:31.479
the old Lasallians, as well as the St. Patrick's

01:20:31.479 --> 01:20:36.520
and SGI boys. And he's really sorely missed.

01:20:36.739 --> 01:20:41.000
So this song, Thank You for the Music, from ABBA,

01:20:41.079 --> 01:20:43.909
sung by the three of us. May not be its very

01:20:43.909 --> 01:20:47.750
best, but it is our way of saying thank you to

01:20:47.750 --> 01:20:51.149
them. And we hope you enjoyed the episode. And

01:20:51.149 --> 01:20:54.449
don't forget to catch us next week for the one

01:20:54.449 --> 01:20:57.890
with the bongster. When we come back. Thank you.

01:20:58.170 --> 01:21:04.850
Talking about aliens and UFOs. UFOs and UFOs.

01:21:06.569 --> 01:21:09.270
It's a dinosaur. Really? I don't know how aliens

01:21:09.270 --> 01:21:12.989
sound like. Bong, teach me. If you know how an

01:21:12.989 --> 01:21:15.789
alien sounds like, then I really don't know what

01:21:15.789 --> 01:21:21.229
to say about you, man. Maybe your secondary school

01:21:21.229 --> 01:21:26.390
principal was one. Okay. Peace out. I'm going

01:21:26.390 --> 01:21:30.630
to get a top up. Good night. Stay safe, everybody.

01:21:30.970 --> 01:21:33.909
Catch you all soon. Enjoy the song. Bye -bye.

01:21:34.130 --> 01:21:36.770
Bye -bye. Last week, I was under pressure with

01:21:36.770 --> 01:21:41.489
Robert Fernando. Don't stress lah. We're doing

01:21:41.489 --> 01:21:44.729
Abba, right? Abba. Abba's father. Eh, what your

01:21:44.729 --> 01:21:46.750
Abba lah. Abba lah. Don't say Abba lah. Yeah,

01:21:46.750 --> 01:21:50.829
Abba. You're talking about the Pope and Brother

01:21:50.829 --> 01:21:52.229
Nicholas Seymour. Yeah lah, but don't call it

01:21:52.229 --> 01:21:55.229
Abba lah. Yeah, but it must be Angmo a bit. Say,

01:21:55.310 --> 01:22:00.909
Abba. Okay. I would name a band if I had a band

01:22:00.909 --> 01:22:05.770
called Habba Habba. Habba Nero. No, just Habba

01:22:05.770 --> 01:22:23.899
Habba. You're listening to Habba Habba. I'm nothing

01:22:23.899 --> 01:22:32.100
special. In fact, I'm a bit of a bore. If I tell

01:22:32.100 --> 01:22:39.930
a joke, you've probably heard it before. have

01:22:39.930 --> 01:22:44.510
a talent, a wonderful thing. Cause everyone listens

01:22:44.510 --> 01:22:49.829
when I start to sing. I'm so grateful and proud.

01:22:50.850 --> 01:22:56.310
All I want is to sing it out loud. So I said,

01:22:56.449 --> 01:23:01.090
thank you for the music, the songs I'm singing.

01:23:01.710 --> 01:23:06.670
Thanks for all the joy they're bringing. Who

01:23:06.670 --> 01:23:12.619
can live without it? I ask in all honesty What

01:23:12.619 --> 01:23:18.060
would life be Without a song I dance without

01:23:18.060 --> 01:23:23.880
me So I say thank you for the music For giving

01:23:23.880 --> 01:23:40.390
it to me Mother says I was a dancer before says

01:23:40.390 --> 01:23:47.029
I began to sing long before I could talk. And

01:23:47.029 --> 01:23:54.149
I've often wondered how did it all start? Who

01:23:54.149 --> 01:23:58.470
found out that nothing can capture a heart like

01:23:58.470 --> 01:24:06.170
a melody hand? Well, whoever it was, I'm a fan.

01:24:06.529 --> 01:24:11.539
So I sang Thank you for the music, the songs

01:24:11.539 --> 01:24:17.260
I'm singing. Thanks for all the joy they're bringing.

01:24:17.699 --> 01:24:22.439
Who can live without it? I ask in all honesty,

01:24:22.840 --> 01:24:29.279
what would life be without a song or dance, would

01:24:29.279 --> 01:24:35.479
I be? So, say thank you for the music, for giving

01:24:35.479 --> 01:24:41.000
it to me. I think I'll find some salad. Never

01:24:41.000 --> 01:24:53.960
mind, he's singing. I want to sing it out to

01:24:53.960 --> 01:25:01.460
everybody. What a joy, what a life, what a chance.

01:25:02.960 --> 01:25:07.680
Thank you for the music, the songs I'm singing.

01:25:08.560 --> 01:25:14.159
Thanks for all the joy we're in. Who can live

01:25:14.159 --> 01:25:19.800
without it? I ask in all honesty. What would

01:25:19.800 --> 01:25:25.539
life be without a song? And that's what I need.

01:25:25.659 --> 01:25:37.989
So I say thank you for the music. Thank you for

01:25:37.989 --> 01:25:51.850
the music for giving it to me. Yeah. And that

01:25:51.850 --> 01:25:54.850
was the rendition from this tree called Hubba

01:25:54.850 --> 01:25:58.930
Hubba. Hubba Hubba. And dedicated in loving memory

01:25:58.930 --> 01:26:03.489
to His Holiness Pope Francis and our dear, dear

01:26:03.489 --> 01:26:07.300
brother Nicholas Seed. Rest in peace. Amen.