1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,360 When we talk about being smacked around, I mean for ladies, right? I just want to understand this. 2 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:09,600 When you're standing before, you know, before you got into this, 3 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:16,080 into this, can I call it a hobby? Yeah, you can. Okay, standing by ringside and watching the 4 00:00:16,080 --> 00:00:23,520 something going on, the clobbering going on in the ring. And I mean, doesn't it like frighten you? 5 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:34,080 No. Okay, so we have two persons in camera. Clever. I love Kai so much, you know. 6 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:40,960 What would the hell would I do without Kai? Causeway Jam. Okay, okay. I just saw that on his t-shirt. 7 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:44,960 Yes. Did you see mine? Did you see mine? Ban mien. 8 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:54,240 I know there's a Prata version also. Oh yes, I have that too. Okay. But it's in white. I look 9 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:58,160 terrible in white. So I never want to wear white. Cause I look really awful in white. 10 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:08,000 My what? Oh, my Balacan gila shirt. Balenciaga. I love this kind of shit, you know. 11 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:13,280 You know something, I just keep wondering about, I've been wondering about this. I looked at your 12 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:18,800 videos and I looked at your promos and stuff. And then I realized that, hey, you know, I mean, come 13 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:26,240 on. I just cannot help marveling. Now, of course I've watched WWE. I've watched Trish Stratus. I 14 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:32,080 watched through the years, man. Even when I was in what? In primary school. Not primary school? 15 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:42,320 Yeah. No, secondary school to be fair. Okay. And then I watched the old WWF and I see all the women, 16 00:01:42,320 --> 00:01:49,120 you know, in wrestling and stuff. You know, yeah, sure. You know, it's kind of common, but 17 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:55,200 in Singapore, well, that's something that I still need to wrap my head around. 18 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:00,080 Well, that was one hell of a collective. 19 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:10,160 Okay. So, and yeah, you know, and I keep wondering about this thing. How is it that in this country, 20 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:18,640 there are a school of, I'm going to get screwed by a lot of woke Karens here. I shouldn't say a 21 00:02:18,640 --> 00:02:30,000 school, a bevy of women who actually do this. And in the studio, I have the two of you. And thank 22 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:37,680 you for coming. You must be informed though that this is the season premiere for our season five of 23 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:42,960 the Chris Hansen conversation. And thanks for being here. And we have got, ladies and gentlemen, 24 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:53,280 we have got two ladies who are female wrestlers in Singapore for a Singapore wrestling. How shall I 25 00:02:53,280 --> 00:03:02,480 describe, how shall I describe this? A Singapore wrestling group outfit, outfit, division, division. 26 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:13,360 Division. Okay. Promotion. Okay. Okay. Thanks for educating me. I need to know that. So it is a local 27 00:03:13,920 --> 00:03:20,640 Singapore based wrestling promotion called grapple max that you guys are part of. And I'm still 28 00:03:20,640 --> 00:03:26,880 trying again, as I said, wrap my head around. How is it that there are, and quite a number of you 29 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:34,400 involved, ladies involved in this. So let me just get started. Shall we? What drew you to this world? 30 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:40,080 Open to the floor, open to the floor. No hard and fast rules. We're having a chat. Okay. It's 31 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:48,800 not for me. Right. Okay. So I like watching wrestling, like anime and comic when I was a kid. 32 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:54,800 There's wrestling and anime. Yes. Where the hell have I been? Okay. The one I watched, 33 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:59,520 it's more famous in Japan, but it's not as well known in Singapore or other part of Asia. It's 34 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:07,040 called Kinikuman. Kinikuman. Directly translated to muscle man. To muscle man. Yeah. So it is 35 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:14,000 basically just a lot of people with super power and doing pro wrestling matches. Okay. Yes. Sounds 36 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:19,040 a bit like Pokemon too. Okay. Kind of. There's many different characters. Some looks like humans, 37 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:25,440 some looks like monsters. Okay. Yeah. So it's very interesting. I've been watching that as a, 38 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:32,080 since primary school. Right. And then after that I start watching another anime called Tiger Mask W. 39 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:38,320 Okay. You know Tiger Mask? No, I don't. Okay. So the Japan side. We need to educate him. No, 40 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:44,000 no. It's not just about it being in Japan. Yeah. The very fact that I'm an old man. Yeah. Okay. 41 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:50,320 Cause I don't really watch WE side, but I watch more on Japan side. Oh, okay. So I watch Tiger 42 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:57,360 Mask W, which is an anime. Okay. Then I start knowing all the new Japan wrestler and Tiger Mask. 43 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:03,840 So then I start watching new Japan pro wrestling. Uh huh. And then after that I start to go. Pro 44 00:05:03,840 --> 00:05:08,240 wrestling as in the actual thing. Yeah. Yeah. Not anime, people. No longer anime. Okay. Moving 45 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:14,720 on from anime to actual wrestling. Okay. All right. Yeah. Singapore actually have wrestling. So I went 46 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:21,120 to watch some shows and then last time that was, I was in poly. Uh huh. So my poly lecturer, he was 47 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:27,040 a pro wrestling fan. And then, so I keep seeing him in the shows. When I go to the shows. We're 48 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:32,080 talking about Singapore pro wrestling fan. Yes. Your lecturer. Yeah. My poly lecturer. Your poly 49 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:39,040 telly. Wow. Okay. So that's quite cool. Yeah. So I just asked my lecturer. So that time actually I 50 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:45,040 went to watch a SCW show. It was ladies night. Sorry. Yeah. Uh, too many abbreviations. It's so 51 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:54,080 Singapore, you know, P I E K P E T P E. What SCW? SPW. SPW. What's that sign for? Uh, Singapore pro 52 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:59,200 wrestling. Okay. Thank you very much for clearing that one up. Call me old. It's okay. It's okay. 53 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:03,840 Right. So, okay. Singapore pro wrestling, SPW. Yeah. It's a long story. So yeah. No, no, it's 54 00:06:03,840 --> 00:06:09,920 fine. Go on. I like long stories. Okay. Tell me more. So, uh, that, that event was called ladies 55 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:16,000 night. I remember. So they invited all the female wrestlers from different countries. I found 56 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:21,440 Japan from other countries. So I think the cast on the night is, I think it's all females. Right. 57 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:30,800 So I watched that show. I'm like, Oh, my open vessel. It's fire. Really? I mean, wouldn't you 58 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:41,440 have gone, Oh, ouch. Not really. I see, uh, like Mitsuki Sarah, you know, Mitsuki. Yeah. So she 59 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:47,360 is a pro wrestler from Tokyo, just see pro wrestling. So I watched her man. Oh my gosh. 60 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:54,240 She's so amazing. I watched like all the shows that I really admire them. So I asked my poly 61 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:59,520 lecturer cause he also went to that show. I asked him, uh, have you, anywhere I can learn to be a 62 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:07,360 pro wrestler. And then he directed me to grab a max. Really? Yeah. So you're, you got drawn to 63 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:12,080 this because this is something that you grew into a passion for you from since you were young, 64 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:24,000 kind of young comic. I mean, I mean, get this wrong. I'm 25 this year. Okay. That wasn't long 65 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:32,320 ago then 24, 25. Okay. How about you, Sarah? Well, pretty much my friend asked me to try out at 66 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:38,320 grapple max and I did. Your friend asked you to try out. Yeah. There must be a reason why. Oh, 67 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:44,160 because I do like to try a lot of things in Singapore. Like I will review activities and 68 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:52,800 whatnot. Uh, I do a lot of adventures and then so they taught I figured would be like, it's a good 69 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:59,920 adventure in a way to try out wrestling. Okay. I'm just open to all these. I mean, I'm glad that 70 00:07:59,920 --> 00:08:04,320 you're so open to all these activities. A lot of people would say, okay, you know, let's go and see 71 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:13,920 what else I can do. Okay. Fine. As far as adventure, there's reverse bungee. That is bungee. 72 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:19,280 You've done that too. No, but I've done the other stuff because that's expensive. 73 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:25,760 So you're, you're, you're, you're a thrill seeker. Not true seeker. I just want to show that Singapore 74 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:32,960 isn't boring, but it is boring. It's not. It's not the people, the people are the people. 75 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:37,440 The people are the one who makes it boring. You can be anywhere in the world. Yeah. Yeah. People 76 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:42,640 are boring because it's because they're bored. They're boring because they don't know what to do. 77 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:48,720 So you've got to make your own next. So, okay. So if, if, if, so if, uh, if there's a board 78 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:57,600 Singaporean out there, he should go join wrestling. Yeah. Yeah. Join wrestling or watch us wrestle. 79 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:05,120 Oh, wow. What a promo. Okay. Uh, you know what? I, I, I, I'm, I'm doing a different format this time 80 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:10,320 around. Usually I will introduce my guests at the beginning, but I like to have chats first, 81 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:15,280 you know, and this time around for this season, I'm, I'm working that way. Um, I have with me 82 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:23,440 Mingri and Sarah, believe it or not, she has this name, Sarah cohort. Ahoy. 83 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:31,040 Ahoy. I'm going to get to that thing too. That ahoy thing you've just done. Right. Right. So 84 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:39,280 Mingri is your real name. Yes. You don't have a ring name. Ah, that's what you call it. 85 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:44,560 Ring name. I mean, look, look at what I've got there. I mean, I've got a rock, Duane. 86 00:09:44,560 --> 00:09:55,280 I've got, I've got Steve Austin and I've got AJ Styles, right? And they all belong to my son, 87 00:09:55,280 --> 00:10:01,280 by the way. So, so I borrowed them left it there since I have the two of you here, but you don't 88 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:07,440 have a ring name. Uh, actually I have come up with one ring name and you mean just, uh, I think this 89 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:13,200 year, have you announced this year's in 2025? Yeah. We always keep on growing to see what fits 90 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:18,560 us. Oh, great. So has anyone heard of this new name yet? Uh, I changed my social media account. 91 00:10:18,560 --> 00:10:22,880 Okay. But, but, but officially no one's heard of it yet. It's going to be the first time on this show 92 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:27,600 that you can be saying it. I think so. Will you be announcing it here? Can you announce it here? 93 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:34,800 Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Okay. Mingri, what is your new ring name? Okay. My new ring name is going to 94 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:49,360 be Radiant Ray. Radiant Ray. Radiant Ray. Okay. Has a ring to it. Okay. And why? Uh, I think it's the 95 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:56,640 image I'm trying to go for is kind of vibrant, energetic kind of ring name. And then I asked my 96 00:10:56,640 --> 00:11:02,720 friend who work in, also working in professional industry to help me think about ring names. And 97 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:08,720 then he give me this. I'm like, okay, this sounds, okay, this sounds good. Okay. So Sarah, coming 98 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:15,440 back to you, you said your friend totally give it a shot. You gave it a shot. You enjoy it. Yeah. 99 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:22,000 Right. You like it. Okay. How long have you been doing it for? Well, I can't remember. I only 100 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:31,280 debuted and I think it was 2022 around there, right? Just about two years and a bit ago. Yeah. 101 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:36,320 Because I remember it was after COVID. Right. Yeah. And so it's been that, it's just been a short 102 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:40,880 while. Yeah, it has been a short while. And you're still going at it, right? Because it's been a short while. 103 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:49,280 So do you foresee yourself still going further? Well, I need to improve myself more and more 104 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:55,040 people need to see me. They have not yet. So, okay. So this can't be your day job for sure, right? 105 00:11:55,040 --> 00:12:02,560 I wish it was. Really? You enjoy it that much? More like, well, if you get paid for smacking people around, 106 00:12:02,560 --> 00:12:09,680 wouldn't you want it? No. Because I'm pretty sure that when you smack someone around, you get smacked too. 107 00:12:09,680 --> 00:12:19,840 I guess. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, do you get smacked? Yeah. Okay. There you go. And so if this is the 108 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:25,120 case, then you do it. You said it's been a short while. You enjoy, you know, the opportunity of 109 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:32,880 smacking people around. For the both of you, when we talk about being smacked around, I mean, for 110 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:40,800 ladies, right? I mean, don't get me wrong. I'm not, I am not sexist. I am not. I am not a misogynist. 111 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:47,040 Okay. But I just want to understand this. When you're standing before, you know, before you got 112 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:54,000 into this, into this, can I call it a hobby? Yeah, you can. Okay. That you, you, you getting into this 113 00:12:54,000 --> 00:13:00,960 hobby before getting into it, standing by ringside and watching the something going on, the club ring 114 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:09,200 going on on, on, on the ring or in the ring, in the ring, in the ring. Um, and I mean, doesn't it 115 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:17,520 like frighten you? No. Really? Why should it frighten you? I mean, I mean, okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. 116 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:22,080 I have done a lot of things in my life. Yeah. I mean, behind the microphone is what I'm talking 117 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:28,240 about. Um, the very first time UFC came to Singapore, right? In the form of this brand 118 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:37,040 called the king of the cage. I was the first announcer. Okay. I announced for, uh, I was 119 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:44,640 the first announcer. Okay. I announced for, uh, I think 13 amateur boxing bouts, uh, and the 120 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:51,760 world heavyweight Muay Thai championships. Okay. I have stood by ringside and I hear bone on bone 121 00:13:52,480 --> 00:14:02,640 and I go, holy shit, man. I mean, that's, whoa, no way. Right. And in, and the people, the fair sex, 122 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:08,000 I would assume that by standing by watching all this, it could be quite a frightening affair. 123 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:17,200 Right. I think that UFC is way more scary. Yeah. UFC is scary for everyone. It's a different kind 124 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:24,160 of sport. Okay. Yeah. Pro wrestling is different from UFC. It's different techniques. Okay. So 125 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:30,480 you're saying that one is certainly more violent, but yours is entertainment. Yes. Okay. So it's 126 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:37,200 really is. So it's not a match. These are not matches. These are shows. Uh, you are in matches, 127 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:44,160 but all the matches are in a show. So it's part, the matches are part of a show. Yes. And these 128 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:50,400 matches, you guys go for training. I'm pretty sure. Yes, definitely. And when you train, you train to, 129 00:14:50,400 --> 00:15:00,480 um, you train to choreograph moves. No, we train to be safe. Okay. Because the moves aren't actually 130 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:06,240 choreographed. Yeah. We know the techniques. Okay. Yes. Can you guys cite an example for me? 131 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:13,440 A scoop slam. Oh yeah. Yeah. What's that? A scoop slam. Scoop slam. Yeah. When you pick up someone 132 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:19,040 and throw them down. You can do that. Yes, but not in your studio. Yeah. Yeah. Please not in my 133 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:26,000 studio. It's too cramped. Too many, too many equipment lying around. Uh, okay. So, so you 134 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:32,720 scoop slam someone. It's a technique. Yes. So more so for the person receiving it. Uh, no, both of 135 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:40,080 them have to work together. Okay. Yeah. Right. So, so all these things are, so it's not choreographed. 136 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:45,040 The match is not choreographed. Someone's got to be a heel, the bad guy, and someone's got to be the 137 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:49,360 face, the good guy. Well, sometimes we're in like the Japanese style of wrestling where you don't 138 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:56,000 really have a heel-heel. Oh, if people don't know what a heel is, that's like a villain. And a face 139 00:15:56,000 --> 00:16:00,960 is like the hero, by the way. Bad guy, good guy. Yeah, bad guy, good guy. Okay. Uh, sometimes they 140 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:07,920 don't have a heel-heel in the same match or a face-face. Sometimes they could be face-face, 141 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:12,240 face-heel, heel-heel, you know, the combination is different. Right. Right. Yeah. It doesn't have to 142 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:18,080 be that way. Yeah. But there is a storyline. Yes, there is a storyline. So, so it's a show. 143 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:25,760 The whole thing is a show concept. Yes, a show concept. Okay. And both, and, but you choreograph, 144 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:30,480 do you guys choreograph the match in a way, uh, or matches in a way where, 145 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:39,280 uh, you know the outcomes, you know, who's gonna, on which round you're gonna have a pinfall. 146 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:45,440 Uh, that is up to the creative side. So there's, there's, so there's a producer for that. Yes, 147 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:50,720 there is a producer, of course. Okay. So that one sounds fun. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, from a 148 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:56,480 creative perspective and from, from me being a guy in media, me being a guy who's an entertainer, 149 00:16:56,480 --> 00:17:02,960 I mean, it sounds fun. It is. You're putting on a storyline, putting on a show, but it's physical. 150 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:07,760 Yeah. Okay. What's the craziest thing you guys, and both of you, it's open to both of you, okay. 151 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:14,160 Have you ever done, you know, like flying off the top turnbuckle, stuff like that. I say, I sound like, 152 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:18,640 I sound like a guy from G, WWE doing announcements or doing, you know, commentaries right there. 153 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:24,480 Then you go to the top turnbuckle. What's your definition of craziest? I don't know, man. I'm 154 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:31,120 leaving it to you. What have you done? What to you is your craziest thing? Do we have it down any? 155 00:17:31,120 --> 00:17:38,080 No, to you. What's your craziest thing? To me, or I have thought, or I think it's a crazy thing that 156 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:45,200 I haven't done yet. What? Like, okay. I, the, can I say things that I'm not done yet, but just think 157 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:51,680 I want to do that. Let's talk about the craziest thing you've done so far and what you're thinking 158 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:59,920 of doing next. Haven't done any crazy thing so far. AFA. Okay. I think it was cool, but it's not 159 00:17:59,920 --> 00:18:04,960 crazy. The match was very, okay. The most memorable, you can see what's the most memorable. 160 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:14,320 Most memorable, I think it's the AFA. That's anime festival Asia. Right. Yeah. And you guys had a 161 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:21,520 show going on for that festival. Yeah. Okay. Okay. And what did you do? The wrestle. The two of you. 162 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:26,880 Yeah. Against each other. Yeah. Okay. Okay. But the memorable thing is that since it was at AFA, 163 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:32,880 you could see a lot of the audience were in cosplay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And pretty much all 164 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:36,880 the Japanese culture fans. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, a lot of people are so into that, man. 165 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:42,160 Yeah. I go absolutely gaga when I go down these sort of things. I just happen to be in the fridge 166 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:46,880 in the fringes of Suntech City, right? Yeah. I see people dressed up and I go, Oh God, you kidding 167 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:52,480 me, man? I mean, a hundred points to, you know, for courage to do all that and all the passion 168 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:58,880 they have. Like you guys, passion in what you do. So, what's the biggest misconception people here 169 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:06,960 have about female wrestlers? I don't know, but I know the biggest misconception they have in wrestling 170 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:13,360 in general is that it has to be tough or it has to hurt. Yeah. No, it's all safe. It's supposed to 171 00:19:13,360 --> 00:19:19,840 be safe. Okay. It's supposed to be safe and it just looks dramatic. It's drama. But that's wrestling 172 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:26,400 on a whole in general. But how about what misconceptions about females in wrestling? Have 173 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:33,680 you encountered any anyone or any people who said something to you about, you know, about your role? 174 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:38,240 The audience so far are actually pretty supportive because they probably know we can smack them. 175 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:50,480 Why would you comment anything in front of the person's face? No, no, no. Even friends, family, 176 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:55,680 for example. Yeah. Have they said anything to you about your role in wrestling? Not really. Yeah. 177 00:19:55,680 --> 00:20:02,080 Not really because I've always said I do. Because you can smack them too. No. I've done all these 178 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:08,240 different adventures and so far pro wrestling is actually one of the safer ones. Seriously? Yeah. 179 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:16,000 I've done other sports. Holy shit. Okay. But you have got to really, really train for this, right? 180 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:20,400 You've got to have a certain amount of athleticism. So what do you guys have got to go through in your 181 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:27,040 training to get you there? Well, anyone can start. Anyone really can start at whatever your health. 182 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:33,440 I mean, it's got to be physically demanding to some level. Yeah. But if they want to try pro wrestling, 183 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:40,720 they can. I mean, I wasn't the fittest ever, but I could see what I wanted to get to that level. 184 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:45,920 Okay. Wait. Stop there. You said the word I wasn't the fittest. So let's say, for example, 185 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:52,320 in a hypothesis, right? Now you know Singapore is going to be the activist G. Stay active, blah, blah, 186 00:20:52,320 --> 00:21:00,480 blah. Yeah. If you want to, do you think you'll be, you'll be, you'll be workable, acceptable 187 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:08,240 to go out and say, hey ladies in Singapore, you know, you go for your yoga, you go for your Zumba, 188 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:12,880 you go for all that, you go for your spin classes. There's another way for you to get fit 189 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:19,600 and stay safe at the same time. It's safe, but get fit. Yeah. Why don't you try pro wrestling? 190 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:24,960 Yeah. That's the whole point. So you guys really advocate for that? Yeah. We have done that. 191 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:31,680 How has it impacted you positively in terms of your fitness since you guys embarked? 192 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:39,920 You want to start first? Okay, sure. So honestly, I hate sports as a kid. So I really not great at 193 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:46,880 sports stuff and yeah, I hate running too, but wrestling is the only kind of like sports thing 194 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:53,920 that I enjoy doing. It really helped me with my mobility and stamina a lot and also strength, 195 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:59,520 of course. Like, yeah. Have you improved? Have you seen yourself? Can you testify to the fact 196 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:04,160 that you have got fitter? Yeah, I have definitely got fitter. And stronger. Yes. Okay. Yeah. I 197 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:08,400 couldn't do a handstand last time. There's no way I could do a handstand, but I can do a handstand 198 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:14,800 now. Yeah. Yeah. Can you do a handstand? No. I mean, I'm not ashamed to say that. No way. 199 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:23,120 No, man. I can stand on my feet though. Can you do that? Yeah. Of course you can. Yeah. Okay. 200 00:22:23,120 --> 00:22:30,080 You know, I can't do a handstand. No, no, no. I mean, I'm a gym rat, but I can't do a handstand. 201 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:35,120 Hey, come on, man. Give me a break. I'm going to be 55 very soon. Oh, we have older members, you know. 202 00:22:35,120 --> 00:22:42,240 Oh, crap. Here we go. Yeah. We have people of all ages. Oh, and really, okay, Chris, you walked 203 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:46,400 right into that. It's all different. Yeah, you walked right into that. Yeah. You can come and 204 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:52,160 pro wrestle too. No way. Yes. Yes. Yes. No, no. I value my face too much. Although we cannot 205 00:22:52,160 --> 00:23:02,720 look up by lorry, you need a face, you know. So you advocate for fitness for anyone, for that matter, 206 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:08,960 of any age group, any gender. That, hey, you know what? There's a fun way for you to keep fit. Yes. 207 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:16,000 There's a fun way for you to get fit, right? And so why don't you just come and join, you know, 208 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:23,760 what we do in pro wrestling? Pretty much, yes. If they find, you know, sets too repetitive, 209 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:28,320 like in gyms, like you have to do the specific set and whatnot. In pro wrestling, at least, 210 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:33,600 there's sort of like, you learn techniques also. Right. It's not like MMA. They also learn techniques, 211 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:41,200 but we have techniques with drama. So if you like drama and you add the physical training expect, 212 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:46,800 then it's fun. So you see, you mentioned drama. So if that's the case, it should come with some 213 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:52,800 acting training as well. It does. No. It does. No, come on. It does. No, get out of here, man. 214 00:23:54,080 --> 00:24:00,240 So if you really like drama with PE, come join pro wrestling. Drama with PE? Yeah. Drama with PE. 215 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:08,160 Yeah. Okay. Let's talk about the drama bit. So there is someone, some people who actually teach 216 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:14,160 you the drama bit. Well, we have our instructors. It's not like a physical, okay. They're not 217 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:20,240 theater trainers or something like that. Some of them are kind of actually. Yeah. But it's not like 218 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:27,040 everyone let's sit down. Okay. Show me your sad face. No, it's not like that. Okay. This is your 219 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:33,040 cup. This is your favorite cup. Feel your cup. Nothing like that. Well, we had a workshop like 220 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:39,360 that before. Yeah, we had a workshop. But they do incorporate it with the physical expect. So they 221 00:24:39,360 --> 00:24:46,720 teach us how are you supposed to respond to the emotions if you're getting a win, if you're getting 222 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:52,640 defeated on anything like that. Oh, wait a second. You know, I think we may have something like that 223 00:24:52,640 --> 00:25:00,240 here. Just to play. You know, Kai? Yeah. There's a video called Sarah versus Ming Rui vid. No, no, 224 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:06,400 no, no, no. Sorry. Match promo. The match promo vid. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. These two crazy 225 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:13,840 people actually fought each other. This one? Can you play that one, please? Ahoy! Oh, so loud. It's Sarah. 226 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:18,880 And it's been a while since I've been tested in a singles match. And this time it's against you, 227 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:25,040 Ming Rui. We've been training together since the beginning. And while you have the heart of a lion, 228 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:31,920 I'm as strong as an anger, which is why last year at Bushiro Expo, I defeated... Holy crap, what was that? 229 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:41,920 Hey, I'm Ming Rui, the big lion of Peppermax. Last year at Bushiro Expo, I have beaten you as well. 230 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:52,320 Sarah, we have trained together for a long time. But at MP5.5, we'll find out who is the better wrestler. 231 00:25:53,360 --> 00:26:03,040 And that will be me. Raise the anchors and let's set sail. A storm is coming for you. Once you step 232 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:14,800 into the ring, you are in my territory. Come at me and become the lion's prey. See you at MP5.5. 233 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:26,480 Of MP5.5. MP5, okay. Yes, MP5 is like one of the show brands under Grapple Max. No, no, no, no, no. 234 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:33,680 So you guys actually know how to dramatize that. Yes. Okay. How many takes do you have to do? 235 00:26:35,360 --> 00:26:40,800 I think that one, we already knew the content. So it was around four. Okay. Because we needed to 236 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:46,640 get the positioning right also. Okay, okay, okay. Okay. Well, that was kind of fun though. 237 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:54,880 So I saw the scoop. Was that a scoop slam? That was, yes. I think you did scoop slam me. 238 00:26:54,880 --> 00:27:01,760 Yeah. There was a spear. Yes, that's definitely it. Yeah. I can't just, I always remember the WWE 239 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:09,520 commentators, right? They go, spear, spear. Definitely. Wow, that's kind of fun though. 240 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:14,720 See, you could join pro wrestling. No, no, no. Just go and watch, man. Damn it. So who won, 241 00:27:15,360 --> 00:27:20,800 who won MP5? Oh, MP5.5. For episode five, I mean, yeah, it was me. 242 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:29,040 And what's this thing about? What's this thing about Ahoy? Ahoy. It's because I'm a pirate. 243 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:36,960 Yeah, I am a pirate in this universe. Okay, in this universe. In this Grapple Max universe. 244 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:43,440 I'm a pirate with my tech team partner, Christian. We are ships Ahoy. Yeah, yeah. We got a picture 245 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:51,200 of that one. Can you please put that one up, Kai? Ships Ahoy. It's a video. It's a video. Oh, 246 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:55,760 okay. So, okay. Just play it. Just play it, man. Fuck that. It's a podcast. We'll give you shit. 247 00:27:55,760 --> 00:28:04,880 Just play it. Okay. It's going to be a lot. Ahoy! I'm Sarah. And I'm Chris. And together we are 248 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:12,320 ships Ahoy! And we are inviting you to Bell at the Barracks. A mat wrestling show, Sarah. 249 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:18,560 Where there's no ring, no ropes, and no barriers. Hey, isn't that how we first started together? 250 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:22,880 No ring, no ring, no barriers. You're right. Our very first match together was on the mat. 251 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:27,280 And I remember us getting really creative about it. And you guys get to watch that again 252 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:32,000 by joining us at the grand opening of the Southern Depot at Gilman Barracks. 9 March, 253 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:37,200 8.30 PM. Check out the description below for details on how to get tickets. Okay, okay. It's 254 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:42,480 over. It's over. We'll see you there. Yeah, that was over a long time ago. Okay, okay. Wait, wait, 255 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:49,120 wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. There's no barriers, no ring, no mat? No, there is a mat. Wait, wait. 256 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:53,280 This sounds like a... So, have you guys ever done... Okay, I asked about the craziest things 257 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:57,280 you guys have ever done before. Yeah. Right. I've not heard about what you intend to do 258 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,680 yet. I've not heard yours yet. So, what's the craziest thing you've done? 259 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:08,400 The craziest thing? Well, for now, in the previous show, which happened like last night, 260 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:15,360 yeah, pretty much, it's not as crazy, but I kind of did like at least three times because 261 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:21,760 people were being flung at me twice in one match. What? What do you mean? Wait, you're talking about 262 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:27,200 people being flung at you as they're being thrown at you? Yeah, they were like going over the ring. 263 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:34,240 So, they landed on me for three times. You can't tell me that didn't freaking hurt, right? Come on. 264 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:40,240 I don't know what to tell you, but I can say that everything is always safe. And I look good when 265 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:44,480 I'm on the brav vlog. Oh my gosh. I look good. Okay. As long as I look good. Wait, wait, wait. 266 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:52,080 Stop there. Just say, tell me, did it or did it not hurt? Not really. I mean, I'm catching them. 267 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:58,320 Oh, you're catching them. It's still going to be a body weight of times three. Yeah, but if you know 268 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:05,280 how to fall properly, even not in wrestling, even in my other sports, you need to fall properly. 269 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:09,760 Okay. So, that's the safe way. Now, since you said that, right? So, that's the craziest thing 270 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:22,400 you've done so far. So far. Okay. I, you know, the old WWE, right? When I was absolutely gaga over it 271 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:29,040 and I was, and my son as well, crazy. I got two rings for him. Yeah. Well, since he was a kid and 272 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:36,000 we got about 200 plus figurines like these. That's expensive. Yeah. Yeah. And I took him to watch Raw 273 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:44,400 a couple of years back and I, and my wife actually took me to watch Smackdown. I shook Batista's hand, 274 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:49,920 Rey Mysterio and all these guys. But one of the, one of the things that, you know, that I enjoy 275 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:57,280 watching, it would be the crazy kind of matches like cables, sweaters and chairs. Now, 276 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:05,200 do you guys have stuff like that? Not at the moment for us, but if you have the budget, 277 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:10,640 you could buy us those tables and chairs. So, you're saying, so wait, wait, wait a second. So, 278 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:15,760 you're saying that, I know the tables look flimsy. To me, they are that stupid. The tables are so thin. 279 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:22,560 You know, you will bleed because you will get cuts. Yeah. Yeah. But the chairs is something I 280 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:29,280 could never figure out. You know, the chairs, the back of the head, the chairs. Yeah. It's interesting. 281 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:33,360 Yeah. And the ladders coming down from real high. Oh no, that's actually scary, but yeah. 282 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:38,480 I mean, how could anyone say to me that there's a safe way of doing things like that, man? 283 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:45,360 There's always a safe way to fall. But come on, you're falling from a height. Yes. That is 284 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:51,680 ridiculously high. Yeah. You know, and I've seen these guys do shit like that, right? And no matter 285 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:57,520 how you have a safe way of landing, I mean, you're going to get, you're going to hurt somehow. You 286 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:03,520 will feel sore, but you won't, if you do it correctly, you won't be permanently injured. 287 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:09,120 I'm a wimp. You do not have to do a ladder match. I am a wimp. So what's the craziest 288 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:16,000 shit that you're planning on doing, man? This year? A ladder match. A ladder? No, maybe a table. Table 289 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:23,040 sounds okay. A table sounds okay. I mean, are you okay? Have you guys seen a shrink before? I mean, 290 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:28,320 I don't know. Okay. So, so the table is going to be okay. So what are you planning on doing? Table? 291 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:34,640 Go through a table? Yeah, I see we have mattresses that, okay, but it's a boys, but they just take a 292 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:40,720 move and then the table will break into half and they land on it. Yeah. So I got to ask, I got to 293 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:46,160 ask Greg this when I have him on my show, man. So every time you have a table thing and you break 294 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:50,640 the freaking table, you got to spend more money on buying another freaking table because you can't, 295 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:56,080 you can't put the last one back together, right? Holy crap, it's a lot of money there, man. 296 00:32:56,080 --> 00:33:02,960 So we should not have that many table matches or whatnot. Those are only reserved for special events. 297 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:08,960 Okay. Okay. Okay. So special events will be the one with the higher ticket sales and... 298 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:16,880 We'll see how it is. I mean, it's up to creative. Okay. Anyway, I'll ask Greg that question when I 299 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:23,520 have him on the show. Greg is by the way, the boss of Grapple Max Singapore. Yeah. So there's going 300 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:28,400 to be a lot for me to ask him, especially after this conversation you and I are having. Okay. 301 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:36,000 What is the most memorable reaction you've ever got from your spectators, man? Or can I call them? 302 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:43,200 Okay. Hang on a second. So if this is entertainment and it's part, it's physical, it's not a sport, 303 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:48,080 right? It's sports entertainment. Okay. So sports entertainment. So are these people, 304 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:54,800 are they called audience or are they called spectators? They can be the audience. I mean, 305 00:33:54,800 --> 00:34:00,720 it's easier for us to understand. So what do you guys call them? Audience or spectators? Audience? 306 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:08,800 Well, according to last night, I call them peasants, but that's my character. My character, not me. 307 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:16,640 Peasants, that's my character. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Okay. So that's a cold hearted set up. Yeah. 308 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:24,480 It'll be interesting once you see the dynamics for my matches. Yeah. Okay. So, and what do you do, 309 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:30,880 what do you guys do for a living, man? I'm pretty sure you got your day jobs. Oh, I'm still 310 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:37,520 undergraduate and still studying. I'm in my final year currently doing my internship. So I study 311 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:47,360 game design. Wow. Okay. You mean E games, game developer, game designer. Yeah. So I'm mostly 312 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:52,880 on like just the design and the art. So I'm also an artist. I wonder if she loves anime and all 313 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:57,840 that. She's doing stuff she loves, man. And how about you, Sarah? I'm a video producer. 314 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:09,120 Oh, Hey, Kai, you hear that man? Kai, you need a job? So usually I do create the drama, but this 315 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:15,040 time I'm in front for the drama at Grapple Man. So you're producing the show. You are in the show. 316 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:20,400 Yes, pretty much. Okay. So what kind of videos do you produce, man? Dramas. Dramas for the 317 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:33,440 mainstream channel. Oh, you are in that place. No, I'm not in that place. They always outsource to 318 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:38,400 other places. Ah, you're commissioned by that place. Yes. Right. Okay. Okay. Oh, cool, man. 319 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:46,560 We're more or less, not more, less actually a little bit in the same thing. Right. Okay. Okay. 320 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:53,360 So your day jobs are that and then you do this as well. It's pretty amazing. Well, it's like my day 321 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:59,280 job is to entertain people and my hobby is to entertain people. I wonder where I come from. 322 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:05,760 Okay. And so what's the most memorable thing, reaction you've ever got from your audiences? 323 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:18,160 Peasants. You know, from our last, last match at G-Round CC, we have quite a lot of audience. 324 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:22,400 Wait a second. You guys actually have matches in the CCs? Yeah. Oh, wow. 325 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:32,560 Time for you guys to do one in Tampines, huh, man? Let's go. Go and ask your MPs or GRCs about it. 326 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:38,880 Okay. Minister Masago, you heard that? Okay. Right. And I'm a part of your GRC by the way. Yes. 327 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:45,920 Yeah. So after the match, then we just walk around and then there's the auntie. She came to me and 328 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:52,800 she said, she just, uh, well, what is the word that she just left the hospital? Discharge. She 329 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:58,480 just discharged from hospital to came to watch our show. And she said, and then she told me, 330 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:06,320 you have gave me a lot of energy. And I so, oh, that's so cool. I'm so happy to hear that. 331 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:14,480 Yeah. Oh, that's so cool. I think that's really cool. Yeah. Wow. What is something I never expected 332 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:18,880 when I asked, when I, when it came up with this question, I never expected that, that kind of, 333 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:25,760 that kind of, you know, answer that. Yeah. That kind of story. I mean, really, I never would, 334 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:31,200 I never would have have expected it. How about you Sarah? Well, I can give you two perspectives. 335 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:38,000 When I was a face, uh, a face, which is when you were a good, the good guy. Yeah. When I was a good 336 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:46,080 guy, uh, I had a lot of people excited to see me. Also, uh, whenever I appeared, all the female 337 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:51,040 audience were like, Oh my God, that's actually a female wrestler. And they all had this super 338 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:56,320 happy look on their faces because there's a female in the ring, smacking people around. 339 00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:01,520 They have a specific like, I'm so excited. So that would have been, that would have been 340 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:07,200 a moment to really advocate to these ladies, right? To come and join in. Oh yeah. Pretty much. 341 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:14,560 Also children, they all were like happy. And as a heel or bad guy, uh, the audience were also happy 342 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:21,760 to see me. Uh, yeah, they actually were happy to see me, but they love to react. So currently you're 343 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:28,160 a heel. Yeah. Just recently, but they love to react to me being a heel now. What do you think? 344 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:33,920 You mean you enjoy that and you enjoy giving people a, a, a, a sort of an outlet? Yeah. Because 345 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:41,120 they are also trying to react to me to react to them. So it's, even though it's like a performance, 346 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:47,600 it's still interaction. Yes. Interaction. People like the interaction. Right. And that's quite fun 347 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:53,040 because everyone is really entertained by interaction. So how do you develop both, 348 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:58,080 the both of you right now, you have radiant Ray. I actually kind of like the lion, you know, 349 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:08,800 I kind of like the lion bit though, but okay. I mean, but you came up with your character. Then 350 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:14,720 how did you come up with Sarah cold heart? Uh, it's a branding from all my other adventures. 351 00:39:14,720 --> 00:39:20,080 So I just kept it. It's not just for wrestling. If you know my name, you will know where I am 352 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:27,440 everywhere online. Yes. So it doesn't have to be wrestling. If you like hobbies in Singapore, 353 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:36,320 you will know who I am. Okay. Okay. I somehow kind of feel inadequate right now, kind of lost. 354 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:40,880 So why cold heart still? I mean, even though you do hobbies outside, it was just a really, 355 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:45,520 really old branding. So I just kept it. Really? For something else that you've done? Yeah. Like 356 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:51,440 writing, like books and everything. Ah, so you're a published author. I'm everything. 357 00:39:53,200 --> 00:40:02,080 Wow. Yeah. Wow. Okay. If you have fun in, uh, hobbies, you will see me because I would always 358 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:09,040 like to try and also tell people, don't be scared. Try whatever it is and maybe you'll see what you 359 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:15,680 like. Okay. What's the dynamic like, you know, uh, with the other wrestlers? Is it competitive? Is 360 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:22,080 it supportive or is it a mix of both? Can we put up a group pic of them please? Kai? Oh, 361 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:30,400 yeah. Yeah. So it's, yeah. So it's, it's, it's nice to see, you know, it's like a great little 362 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:35,280 community. Yeah. Okay. But so what's the dynamic like, man? Are you guys like really tight with 363 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:40,240 each other? We're very supportive. Yeah. Very supportive. You have to be supportive if we are 364 00:40:40,240 --> 00:40:45,040 throwing each other around. It has to be safe. We have to trust each other. Yeah. It's kind of crazy, 365 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:49,040 right? I mean, you're going to go on, you're going to go into the ring and then you're going to do 366 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:54,960 all these things to each other and yet keep a straight head in your relationships with, 367 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,960 with each other. I mean, is it, is that quite a challenge? No, you know, we want to support 368 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:03,600 each other. Like if she's the face, I'm the heel. Right. I want to make her look good. 369 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:09,280 Same. You know how it goes. Oh, so that's how you see it. So your perspective would be, 370 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:13,280 I'm going to make you look good. So don't worry about it. Yeah. So I'm going to really be the 371 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:18,320 asshole here and make you look good. Pretty much. Wow. So it takes quite a lot of a person's 372 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:24,560 psyche to, to, to just go, you know, okay, today I'm just going to really have everyone really hate 373 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:30,080 my guts and really show this other person up. Yeah. It's a whole show. You need to see it in a 374 00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:35,360 big perspective that we want the audience to be entertained. They need to know the story. 375 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:41,840 They need to go like, yes, Ming Ray, she's the hero for this match, but oh no, the heel is 376 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:48,000 beating her up. Oh no, we, we need to like cheer on Ming Ray. Yeah. Yeah. We help each other. Yes. 377 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:54,800 Okay. Wow. That's, that's, that's a cool dynamic. So what's the one thing you wish more people 378 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:59,280 understood or understand about the art of professional wrestling? 379 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,680 That we actually have it in Singapore. So true. 380 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:09,280 Why do you say that? You, you, you say as if it's really not out there. 381 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:16,880 No, people always search WWE of course. Yeah. And they don't think we actually have 382 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:22,400 wrestling in Singapore. Right. Because most of them will just know it's online or on TV. 383 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:27,760 Okay. Do you a favor? Okay. Yeah. Do you a favor? Okay. You're 67,000 plus subscribers. 384 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:34,240 We have wrestling in Singapore. We have pro wrestling in Singapore. So don't, if you ever 385 00:42:34,240 --> 00:42:38,080 think we don't just shut the fuck up and say anything. Okay. But tell everyone, if you need 386 00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:42,000 to talk, just tell everyone that, you know, we have pro wrestling in Singapore. There you go. 387 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:49,760 And, and, and if you don't believe, go and watch that. Okay. Yeah. So, yeah. Okay. So that's one, 388 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:54,880 what you feel. How about you? For audience, I think a lot of other than what Sarah mentioned, 389 00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:59,280 a lot of people can't tell what's the difference between amateur wrestling and pro wrestling. 390 00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:04,480 So every time I have to explain, this is a, the, what I'm doing is a performance. 391 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:09,600 The entertainment kind is not the same as amateur wrestling. Yeah. I have to explain that every time 392 00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:15,440 when I tell my friends. Yeah. You mean, you mean, you mean the, the, the, you're kind of young, 393 00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:20,560 right? And your friends are your peers, your contemporaries, they would have known about 394 00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:24,560 WWE. They would have known that it's sports entertainment. Why can't they see the difference 395 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:28,960 still? What do you think that, why do you think that's the case? Actually, I think more than half 396 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:36,240 of people don't even know WWE around me. What? Yeah. Where have they been? Mars? But Europe. 397 00:43:36,240 --> 00:43:44,800 I mean, you watched it when it was on TV in Singapore or was it like on cable? It's on, 398 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:52,800 it's on fucking Netflix now, man. But, but students don't have access to Netflix. Not all students 399 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:58,240 have access to Netflix unless they really, unless they take it from their families. Yeah. 400 00:43:58,240 --> 00:44:05,600 I mean, yeah. I'm pretty sure kids watch Netflix and Prime and stuff. Yeah, but they're not watching 401 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:12,320 wrestling specifically and it just came on Netflix. That's really sad, man. I mean, 402 00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:18,320 there's one thing that I bonded with my late dad, you know, for many years, man. I bonded with my 403 00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:25,200 dad from the Hulk Hogan era, you know, from Hogan down to Ric Flair down there, The Undertaker when 404 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:29,520 he was a lot younger. Oh, definitely. Maybe The First Undertaker because I don't believe they're 405 00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:36,800 the same guy. Anyway. What? I really don't believe they're the same guys. No way. Really, there's no 406 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:47,680 way, man. And the ultimate warrior. And then after that, then I bonded with my son over WWE. We 407 00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:54,160 really did. I mean, I mean, he was teaching me about who the new guys are and he was going 408 00:44:54,160 --> 00:45:02,240 nuts over AJ Styles. Right. You know? And I went with him and you should have seen my kid, man. 409 00:45:02,240 --> 00:45:09,920 He was standing on the chair like, whoa! It was quite something. I had a lot of fun. And I think 410 00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:15,840 it's a great, I mean, at least again, I'm not sexist, but it just so happened this is the case. 411 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:22,400 Between dad and son, you know, it's a great bonding experience. Or, you know, just going 412 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:29,600 through watching, even if it's going to be on TV, you know, watching wrestling. And there are two 413 00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:35,280 different sets of generations of wrestlers that we've been through and then the ones that he's 414 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:41,760 going through, you know? And I think it's a fantastic thing, really. And if we have the 415 00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:47,280 Singapore version, right, like what you guys are doing, I mean, well, yeah, why the hell not, right? 416 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:53,120 For people to try and find out more, right? We have our own version of sports entertainment in 417 00:45:53,120 --> 00:46:01,680 Singapore. Tell me about this. Is there anything surprising that you've discovered about yourself 418 00:46:02,720 --> 00:46:05,600 or learned about yourself since you started wrestling? 419 00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:07,920 I can do a handstand. 420 00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:08,400 Yeah. 421 00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,920 You know, this handstand thing is getting to me, man. 422 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:15,600 It's difficult, you know. 423 00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:23,920 I'm sure it is. I'm sure it is. I mean, I'm not saying it's easy because I can never freaking do it, man. 424 00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:27,760 The effort to do a handstand is like so difficult. 425 00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:28,960 Yeah. Can you do a handstand? 426 00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:29,920 Yes, I can now. 427 00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:30,960 Holy shit. 428 00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:32,240 You can do a handstand. 429 00:46:32,240 --> 00:46:32,800 Really? 430 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:38,160 It's more of the progression to get to that handstand is so difficult. 431 00:46:38,720 --> 00:46:40,880 Handstand against the wall or handstand without a wall? 432 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:42,240 We don't do it without a wall. 433 00:46:42,240 --> 00:46:46,480 But kind of both. Handstand rolls, you kind of handstand and then you roll. 434 00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,920 You need to roll, you need to handstand and roll back. 435 00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:54,240 Physically, you discovered, hey, I can do a handstand. 436 00:46:55,920 --> 00:47:01,680 But is anything else besides anything physical that you've grown? How about, you know, in terms 437 00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:07,360 of you as a person, have you grown? Has it helped you in any way? How? 438 00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:12,640 If I can do a handstand, I could do anything. 439 00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:18,400 I can see where this is going. I can never get around a handstand thing. Okay. Okay. Okay. 440 00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:24,560 What are your thoughts on the portrayal of women in mainstream wrestling media? 441 00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:32,640 Well, right now, they're pretty okay. As in, if you've seen WWE style, they're really on the rise. 442 00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:37,520 You can see different body types, different storylines. I like Rhea Ripley. 443 00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:42,160 You mean different body types now? What do you mean? You mean now you got the, you got the, 444 00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:47,840 you got, they're not the, the va va va vroom. No. I ain't watching it no more. 445 00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:55,520 You have so many diverse types now, which is why it's fun to watch. 446 00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:59,280 I'm going to get slined by a lot of Karens out there just because of what I said. 447 00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:05,040 But come on, there's got to be the sex appeal, right? Yeah. But it means also you can have more 448 00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:11,520 types. It doesn't have to be one type now. Okay. Yes. Yes. Okay. Okay. So that's the fun of it. 449 00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:18,800 Everyone is different. So you are saying that today, even the WWE has improved in the way they 450 00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:25,680 portray women, right? That means all shapes and sizes that can come in and do this. Okay. Okay. 451 00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:32,560 So you still feel that more women should join the wrestling fraternity? Yep. Yeah. Definitely. 452 00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:40,640 They need to find the joy of handstands. Or at least you know, pro wrestling. 453 00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:45,920 I'm so going to change the title of this episode. This is going to be called the, 454 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:53,120 you can do a handstand too episode. Wow. You know what? You guys are so strange, man. How long have 455 00:48:53,120 --> 00:49:00,560 we been talking? Actually quite some time. And since we've been chatting, since we started talking, 456 00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:08,320 right? I've covered almost everything. Oh, yeah. So what's your dream? What's your dream for 457 00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:16,240 pro wrestling in Singapore? Well, I do want more women to join our pro wrestling division 458 00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:19,840 because it'll be fun to have more women. And how many do you have now? 459 00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:23,840 Three. No, we don't have three. We have more. We have more. We have more. 460 00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:29,680 We're already in the roster. Did you fight last night? Did you have a match last night? Yeah. 461 00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:33,840 You got hit in the head something. Three. There's no way there's three. There's two of you 462 00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:38,320 and one more that's not here. There's no way. I've seen the roster. In the roster? 463 00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:46,160 We have other trainees also. I think it should be like, okay, around five or so. Yeah. So five. 464 00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:52,320 Five or so. Okay. And then you have a female trainer training you. Yes, we have a female trainer. 465 00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:59,280 And she also is part of the roster. Of course, she is part of the roster. Right. She's a five-time 466 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:06,560 CWE champion from India. Okay. Please, please abbreviate yourself. What's CWE? 467 00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:13,760 That's the promotion name in India. Okay. What's it called? CWE Wrestling, Entertainment Wrestling. 468 00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:17,760 Something like that. Okay, but it's Indian based. Yes, it's Indian based. Okay. And she's from India. 469 00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:23,120 Yes. Right. And she's based in Singapore now. Right now, yes. Okay. And she trains all of you. 470 00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:29,760 She trains the women in the division. Yes. So she's a five-time champion. Yes. Okay, okay. Now that 471 00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:39,120 we're talking about belts and stuff. But isn't that all part of the script? Yeah, but who makes, 472 00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:46,400 who tells that who wins? Like, do you deserve it? I don't know. How does it work? You're not going to 473 00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:52,640 give it to some randos. I don't know. I mean, you tell me. I mean, if, if, if let's say, 474 00:50:53,920 --> 00:51:02,400 okay, five-time champion. Yes. Planned already, right? To be the champion. No, no, no, no. You 475 00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:07,520 can't plan it like five times. How does it work? Tell me. How does it work? At least for ours, 476 00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:13,840 we need to know if the person is really good at wrestling. Yeah. Yeah. So, so it is given to the 477 00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:20,240 one that can, is really good at executing the moves. It's not just the moves. It's the whole 478 00:51:20,240 --> 00:51:25,200 package. Okay. Okay. Remember there's also acting and interaction. Yeah. The whole package, right? 479 00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:30,480 So the one that, that is really like, eh, this guy is really quite ace at all this. Yeah. And, 480 00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:34,640 and they can represent the company. And they can represent the company. And this is the guy that 481 00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:38,800 we're going to, it's like media corps saying, oh, now we're going to make sure Germit sings the 482 00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:44,000 stuff. That kind of thing, right? Okay. I'm sorry, Germit, but you were everywhere, man. Okay. Yeah. 483 00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:52,880 So that kind of thing, right? So, okay. So this person is excellence execution, great, uh, uh, 484 00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:59,920 uh, personality and character that's been created for the game, represents the brand well and all 485 00:51:59,920 --> 00:52:04,960 that and the whole thing. And then say, okay, you deserve this year to be champion. Hmm. Somewhat 486 00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:10,960 like that. Depending also on the producers. Yeah. But, uh, it's usually hopefully someone who 487 00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:17,760 enables or rather embodies all those factors. Okay. Okay. Right. Now I'm learning something new. 488 00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:24,640 Okay. I mean, if you had a title belt, you are going to represent the promotion. Right. And you 489 00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:28,000 don't want to like dishonor the promotion. Interesting. No, it's interesting, man. It's 490 00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:33,680 interesting, man. I mean, it's like, uh, it's, it's really a PR thing actually. Hmm. Kind of, 491 00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:38,800 right? If I'm looking at it from a lay person's perspective, not in the game, but looking at it 492 00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:46,560 from, from as a business. Okay. Wow. That's really interesting. Okay. But naturally if a person in 493 00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:53,600 your, in your world, in your universe, if you have like this trainer of yours, five times champ, 494 00:52:53,600 --> 00:53:01,440 yeah. Means that this person has been representing that brand so well. Yeah. Have, have been so good 495 00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:09,520 at athleticism. Yes. Right. Um, and knows the shit because the experience is there. So you look up 496 00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:14,800 to that. Yeah, pretty much. That's why I'm like proud of her being our trainer. Right. What's her 497 00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:25,360 name? Her name's Divya. Divya. Okay. Got to meet this girl, man. Yeah. Not in the ring though. 498 00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:31,440 Choose some B rolls at our training. What rolls? B rolls. The only B rolls I know are in the bakery, 499 00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:43,520 man. I go five B rolls in the bakery. Yum. What's next for Ming Rui and Sarah? What's next? What's 500 00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:51,840 next? Yeah. Anything. Okay. I can start first. Sure. Go ahead. Okay. Okay. What's next is, well, 501 00:53:51,840 --> 00:54:00,960 I have to be more evil. Oh, okay. At least for me, I'm, I'm a heel, right? Yeah. So I'm recently a heel. 502 00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:06,960 Recent heel. Yeah. A recent heel. So I have to figure out how to engage the audience more as a heel. 503 00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:12,000 Wow. That's so fun. It's fun, but I really need to see how to engage. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. That's 504 00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:16,880 what, that's the fun bit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're always changing, changing personas. So when 505 00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:20,720 you change persona, you got to relook at the whole character and then you got to get into that 506 00:54:20,720 --> 00:54:25,200 character. Man, you got to do a lot of character role playing here, man. Oh no. Yeah. Yeah. But 507 00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:32,240 that's the fun part. Method acting. Method acting. See, it's PE with drama. Yeah. It's kind of fun. 508 00:54:32,240 --> 00:54:39,200 I will never do it, but it's kind of fun. That, I'm looking forward to that and also still promoting 509 00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:44,080 our women's division still. I still wouldn't want people to come by and train with us because it's, 510 00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:51,920 well, you can't get to the handstand that easily, but you can do the basics first, which we all 511 00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:58,160 went through. Okay. All the basic stuff. Once we learned that the basic, like for example, a role, 512 00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:04,720 right. Then you start to realize, Hey, I can actually do this or it takes me this much time 513 00:55:04,720 --> 00:55:11,280 to do this one step. But what if I continue, can I get to the next level? Right. That's the fun part. 514 00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:18,960 Right. How about you? Okay. So also I agree with Sarah has said, we want more females to join us. 515 00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:25,280 Right. And personally, I think cause last year I'm doing this lion character, but this year I kind of 516 00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:33,200 like stepping backwards to just trying to be myself because I feel maybe this character didn't 517 00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:40,800 work out as well as I wanted. So still exploring my character. How do I, what do I want to show 518 00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:47,280 to the audience? So you want to evolve into some other character now? I feel I'm more like, 519 00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:52,640 or yourself. Yeah. Taking a step back to just be myself and see what else can I go from here. 520 00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:59,360 Yeah. Yeah. And of course, train more, train harder and hopefully go to Japan and train. Oh yes. Yeah. 521 00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:08,320 Okay. Okay. Okay. So it is quite something to go to Japan to train in your world. I think it is. Yes, it is. 522 00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:17,280 Anyone can go there though. But no, no, not everyone. No, no, no. Not like, not like train as a wrestler inside. 523 00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:24,320 I'm talking about, you know, darejo in Japan. Okay. He does not know. No, I do not know. No. In Japan, there's a 524 00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:31,760 promotion they call darejo is short form for dare demo jujutsu pro-wrestler. It means anyone can be a 525 00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:39,040 pro-wrestling. Anyone can do this pro-wrestling. So they are open to public. Right. Anyone can just like 526 00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:44,640 pay around a thousand or thousand and five hundred yen and then you can go to the class. So, right. 527 00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:50,400 So there is classes for anybody. Yeah. So I'm talking about that kind. Right. Yeah. Because there's two 528 00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:57,840 levels. Yeah. There's two levels. There's two levels. Yeah. So go do it, man. Go solve yourself. Go do it. 529 00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:03,360 Okay. I tell you what. Let's, let's, let's do this. Okay. You see that center camera right there. 530 00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:10,160 Yeah. Take a look at the camera. You guys do a two, three liner each and tell the ladies out there 531 00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:16,880 what you just said again and officially. Okay, people. Sarah Coleheart and Mingri has got 532 00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:23,520 something to tell you and this could be a real, real different kind of thing for you to stay fit 533 00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:30,560 and get healthy. Please go ahead. Well, come join pro-wrestling if you want to hear if it's 534 00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:38,160 Healthier SG. Yeah, it is Healthier SG. And we are very supportive. We're actually very fun and you 535 00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:45,760 can learn how to, well, put some drama to your steps. You don't have to do 10k steps. You can just 536 00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:51,920 roll around, have fun with us while get, while getting Healthier. Yeah. Fitter, get fitter. You're 537 00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:58,320 definitely going to get fitter with us. Great. Yeah. Mingri. Yeah. So don't, don't need to be scared 538 00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:05,040 even if you're not physically fit or you are bad in sports, but just come and try out, try out 539 00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:10,880 pro-wrestling and have fun, learn some acting and learn some rolling. And then be able to do a hand 540 00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:17,840 stand. Yeah. And I can tell you one thing, the only thing this guy is going to do, he takes a 541 00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:23,600 rolling pin, puts a dough there and right flat down and go a forward roll and a back roll and a forward 542 00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:30,080 roll and a back roll. And then I have a bun. Thank you so very much for being on the show, guys. 543 00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:36,480 Really been interesting and thank you for being the opening segment for my new season. Really. 544 00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:44,000 And everyone, thank you very much again for joining us on the very first episode, the season premiere 545 00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:50,320 for of the Chris Hansen conversation for season five. It's going to be kind of a long season, 546 00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:55,440 but stick around. Okay. Find out more. I've got some more guests coming in the ensuing weeks until 547 00:58:55,440 --> 00:59:06,880 then. Stay safe, everybody. This is Chris Hansen. Bye bye. Bye. And your official for this match is LK. 548 00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:26,880 All right. 549 00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:58,880 What 550 01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:14,880 you're doing 551 01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:16,880 Good job! 552 01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:18,880 Good job! 553 01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:20,880 Good job! 554 01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:22,880 I'm gonna finish you! 555 01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:24,880 Okay, I'm gonna do it. 556 01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:26,880 Come on! 557 01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:28,880 Make it faster! 558 01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:30,880 Yes! 559 01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:32,880 Oh! 560 01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:34,880 Oh! 561 01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:36,880 Oh! 562 01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:38,880 Oh! 563 01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:40,880 Oh! 564 01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:42,880 Oh! 565 01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:44,880 Oh! 566 01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:46,880 Oh! 567 01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:48,880 Oh! 568 01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:50,880 Oh! 569 01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:52,880 Oh! 570 01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:54,880 Oh! 571 01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:56,880 Oh! 572 01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:58,880 It's your winner, 573 01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:02,880 Suga Kogai! 574 01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:04,880 Oh! 575 01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:06,880 Oh! 576 01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:08,880 Oh! 577 01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:10,880 Oh! 578 01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:12,880 Oh!