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Okay guys, tomorrow we are starting. We'll have another sound check before we eat.

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Not a word Chris. What do you mean? I can't. You lost your voice? Yes, totally.

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How? I don't know and I was, I was in tears. There's nothing could come out?

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Wow and? Not even one syllable. Oh dear.

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Oh dear. And you know something Jerry, I mean, uh, it's been remarkable. I mean, I've been doing,

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I have to do my research on my guests. Of course. Yeah. Oh yeah. This is a tribute show, you know?

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This is, yeah it is. You're here because it's a tribute from me to you. All right. Right? And

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this series is called, uh, tribute to SG's music icons. Right. And people that I actually invite

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on the show must, to me must have that value to be given this tribute. Otherwise I'll cheapen

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the whole thing. So, you know, welcome to the studio. Welcome to CCB TV and welcome to the

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Chris Hansen conversation. Thank you Chris. Really? But 52 years, huh? Oh yeah. 52 long years.

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Are you comfortable with the headphones? Oh yes I am. Okay. Okay. 52 years, man. I cannot imagine,

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you know, and you're still on stage, you're rocking it. Still, still. Wow. I think that's

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what I love most, the stage. The home, the stage, the family. And this other things will go down

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with me well. Family, huh? Including family, huh? Oh yeah. Wow. Wow. I just told you that I want to

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finish it up and go and look forward to lunch for them all. It's been a, it's been a routine for all

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this years. Right. Uh, since mom left us in 2017. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. And my caregiver has to go

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back home. So we are all on our own. Because my wife will only cook on Sundays and Sundays when

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she's off. Right. Right. That's also not so predictable. Her moods and fancies come in. It happens.

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I'm pretty sure of that. But Jerry, you know, Jerry, um, um, you've been around in the business,

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in the music business, in the music scene for so long. There's so much to talk about. And this is

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where I'm going to start the show. Hi everyone. Welcome back to my podcast, uh, the Chris Hansen

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Conversation. This is a chat show and this is the first of our series called Tribute to SG's Music

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Icons. And I've got with me, you've been hearing us chat as, uh, uh, just now before I started this

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introduction, I can tell you one thing, man, 52 years as a musician and a front man of a band,

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along with the band, 52 years too, Dave, these guys been rocking the stage is no mean feat.

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Let me tell you, man. Okay. It is definitely something that to be in awe of because Jerry

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on stage fronting and I've watched you, you may not know this man, but I watched you perform.

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Really Chris? Happy days, Bedouin North. Oh yeah. Bedouin Central. Right. Right. Yeah. Happy days.

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I was there, uh, and I saw you in a band perform. Yeah. And I'm asking myself this question. How the

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heck does someone get on stage belt the whole night, the whole damn night for 52 years? Yeah.

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I, how do you hold that up? Well, Chris, I think it's a gift from God.

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And I treat the stage very sacred. I don't abuse this stage at all. And me and my guys,

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many at times who get into prayers before we go on stage. Wow. That has been the routine. Wow.

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Though the boys have not the same faith as what I am, but everyone the other year. And uh, that has

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been going on, you know, going on. And uh, I think the stage plays a very vital role beside my family.

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And I can only say one thing, Chris, I thank God for giving me the strength, the energy,

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being there with me when I need him most. Never a day, I will say I'm not well to go on stage.

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Always there. Always there. And always still able to just belt and still belting it out. Yeah. Yeah.

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Cause the stuff that you guys do, man, I mean, there are lots of belting going on, man. Yeah.

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We do. It's a cross-sectional repertoire. Uh, well we do the sixties, seventies, eighties and nineties.

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And a little bit on the, on the modern era, you know, but uh, we roughly like to do on that angle

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because we have been labeled, been labeled legendary rock and roll band of Singapore. Right.

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So I keep to that and that's how it all started.

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So you see within the genre of the rock and roll band. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Chris. Okay. So Jerry,

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if I want to ask you the question, I really want to ask you the question and I, I'd like to,

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in your own words here, can you tell everyone who is Jerry Fernandez? All right. I'm Jerry Fernandez.

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Born to a family of seven. I'm the eldest married to my beloved wife, Mary Ann Olivero.

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Got two boys that's Robin Lee Fernandez and Jeremy Lee Fernandez, both are married.

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And I'm happy to be a grandpa of two little ones that's Raiden and Reena. So, uh, I'm just gifted

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to my two beautiful daughter-in-laws and I love them much. And I'm a no nonsense man anyway. Home

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is home. Prayers are prayers. Church is church. Come to music. Music is music. That's how I've been

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running my whole life. I must say that I never really did work in the office. Never did. I don't

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know what is it like. I've been having a freedom to express myself because that's music and that's

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what I love. Can I ask, can, can I like to ask you this based on what you've just said, there's a

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separation between family stage and faith. Yes. Right. Yes. Being in the business of so many years,

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how many people do you know in the music business that has kept so much like you

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to the faith, whichever religion they be, they may observe. Yeah. And separate them from music

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because being in the music business, a lot of people seem to have this, let me, let me use this

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term then, very fairly, misconception that, Hey, if you're a muso, you drink, you smoke, you're

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womanized, you don't care about religion, you do all kinds of bullshit. How is, is, is, am I right

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to say that that is a misconception generally across the board for musos? Yes. Yes. It is a

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misconception. Not every musician indulge in all the things. All the vices. No. Yeah. There are

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many that I know of straight. Okay. And, and you're saying that generally across the board,

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just speaking about those of us here in Singapore, right? Musos, we are not the type of people

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we, the people always think maybe have this perception, right? You guys do and all that

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kind of stuff. Oh, talking about that, Chris, I got to draw your attention way back. Yeah. All

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right. This was, this happened to us in 1974. When I came back after a performances from Karachi,

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Pakistan, I was there. Okay. And we were performing one night at the national stadium, the old national

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stadium. There is a place called Tilted Tankard. Tilted Tankard. Okay. And we had the band, we came

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back and we assigned to the contract of six months. We were performing on the very first set. Second

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set. All of a sudden, the police, plain clothes, walked in, search on the lights, bright and told

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us to say where we are and took us away. Took you guys away. What do you mean? Arrested you guys?

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Yeah, arrested all of us. Handcuffed? No handcuffed. But just took you away in a van. We were all in our

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outfits. Imagine. Okay. We're in our outfits and we're looking at one another and I say, yeah,

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we got to go. The police officer was kind in his words. All the plain clothes, we didn't even know

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who they are. Right. We were brought to Pearls Hill. Okay. Kept there. CID, Pearls Hill, the old one.

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And we went through the procedures of giving our reports all about to do with, are you involved in

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this? Are you dead? Right. You see, the thing is when they were watching the band, I think I was a

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bit going here. They think, oh, you guys must be high. Must be high. But after all the tests,

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and all the things we were released in the morning, if I remember, eight o'clock in the morning.

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But then I already told my wife to call. That time she was my girlfriend. I said,

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you call daddy and tell what's happening. Get the lawyer to take me out. I don't want to sit here.

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In the lockup. In the lockup. Right. So before that could happen, we were released.

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We were released. Okay. And we all came out clean. Okay. This was the first incidence of

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thinking they, they are thinking that we are. Oh, it's not because you're going a wire and playing

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this and my bass player is jumping around. So somebody watched you guys probably. Yeah. We

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didn't know who they are. Yeah. And they probably thought that you guys were having so much fun.

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You were so high on music that it couldn't be music. Yeah. Let's talk about that, Jerry. Let's

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talk about being high on music, man. See the thing is when the music gets into your soul. Yeah. Gets

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into you. Just how would you describe it? How would you describe it for, for the uninitiated,

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man? People who are not musicians, they don't get that. I get it. Well, as I need to know, I need to

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ask Jerry for that. There's a man who's been doing this for so many decades in your own words. How

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would you describe that high? Well, it's a very sensational feeling. I don't know how to put it

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in words. Yep. Yeah. I can tell you as I speak, my head stands, Chris, that's music. It gives you a

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lot of feeling, the soul and the spirituality. You will sing and you can feel it through. Okay. Which

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song in your years of experience that gives you that kind of feeling, really the greatest kind of

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feeling like that. The greatest kind of feeling. Yeah. The number one song in your mind, top of

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head that gives you that feel. All right. I was always into James Brown. Whoa. And there was, I

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feel good. Just yesterday I was watching it. Right. Oh, his biopic, right? I tell you, man. Yeah.

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So he was one of the favorite of mine. And then so much so that the boys used to call me the Godfather

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of soul. But I, yes, I do things from him, uh, sex machine. Yeah. Yeah. I feel good. Yeah. Papa's

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got a brand new back. Okay. So we went into, because that soul music was there. And of course,

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the music that inspires me most also will be Carlos Santana. Sorry, Carlos Santana. Yes. Yes.

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Right. So that puts you on, that gives you that, that feel. That kind of feel, you know. Yeah. Yes,

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of course, uh, I did Tom Jones, uh, Chris. Tom Jones became a thing like, uh, the press wrote

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about me, Wilfred Yul. Yep. Okay. The reporter. The reporter. And I was singing, she's a lady,

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not that I want to impersonate, the voice fall in place. And then from there on, it became like,

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Jerry, you got to do Tom Jones. So Tom Jones became like part of it. Yeah. I do Delilah.

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Yeah. She's a lady. I've, I've heard you sing, uh, I've heard you sing and yes, there is

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a style that is quite similar to Tom Jones. So I kept on that in the 50th concert, the 50th concert

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in, uh, Desmonet, Explanet, yeah, Chris. Yeah. 13th of March. Now there was from the crowd. I mean,

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it was a good show. It's tickets sold out. Good from the crowd. There was someone saying,

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not only that someone, there was few Delilah Jerry, Delilah, but I was going to, I feel good.

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Then again, Delilah said, who's that? And then there were a few show of hands, you know,

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I went to Delilah Chris. I nearly broke down, man. It was so emotional for me because I know

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this has been always the case in every shows that we do. Delilah will come into place.

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It's not in the, my set repertoire, but people will ask people always. So I just do it. And that

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really, really, really hits me, man. You know, I just love and I want to deliver it to the best

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later. So these are some of the things that I really enjoy and not a day that I don't say I

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don't enjoy it. So music is the addiction. Yes. Music is my, and it's a clean, decent addiction.

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And you know, I want to understand for Jerry Fernandez, when did this all start? When do you

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realize that you have, let's talk about the love for music. When do you realize you had this?

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Yeah. This is going back when I was 11 year old. 11. Okay.

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Chris when I was 11 year old, when I'm from St. Joseph's junior. Okay. Which was St. Michael's,

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right? We were sharing the same building. St. Michael's, St. Joseph junior. Okay. So

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when I was in primary three, teacher's day. So I went on stage to sing. Nine years old. Okay.

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And I was singing Little Ship Cape Sailing and Ramona.

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Not knowing who the artists, but my class, we have a band, a little band, you know,

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that's not full band. Right. You can go ukulele and guitar, then you would drink. Simple setup.

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Simple. Yeah. And we were doing, and I love to sing and we went on, went on. And at the age of 11,

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I was taken in to be an altar boy with the redemptive monastery, that's known as a novena.

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Novena church. Yeah. I was actually spotted by the late father, P.J. O'Neill.

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He came to our house one rainy evening and said to my late father,

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I want to get all your three boys to become altarservants. We all were so happy about it.

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Because every day mom and dad is driving us to church before we're going to school.

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My two brothers, St. Michael's, I'm St. Joseph's. So from there, I started to do the altarserv

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duties. Those days, six o'clock was the morning. I was in the morning, I was in the morning,

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duties. Those days, six o'clock was the morning maza. So went on.

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Then one day, the late brother Kashmir said, Jerry, I wanted to go up to the choir loft. Come with me.

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I went up to the choir loft and brother said, you sing. I said, you sing, I follow, you know.

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And he was singing, he, oh, he was singing he. He, the him, he. He's a good guitarist.

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Then I sang and then he said, I'm going to tell old lady conductor that you're going to be in the

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choir. So I started singing in the choir. Started singing from the choir and went on, went on.

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And then went to secondary school. Right. So from that particular age, right about 23, Chris,

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I was serving the church until 23, until 23 national service. And yet I'm doing,

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I'm in singing in the choir and then doing, doing the stuff. And then

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it happens that secondary three, sec three in HGI. I had a band called

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The Idols. The Idols. Okay. We formed this band, all the classmates, you know,

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beside myself was Albert Lewis on drum, Victor Yeo on rhythm guitar, Josh Peely on guitar,

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lead guitar, Stuart Allison on bass, Carl Ambrose on keyboards, organ, those days not keyboards.

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The organist. What year was this? 1967. Wow. I wasn't even born yet, man. 67, Chris. So we were

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just, this is SGI, right? SGI. Okay. So I told them, I say, hey guys, we're going to take part in

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the contest. You know, there's a soul competition organized by Sanyo Malaysia, the method. I went

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to take the application. It's a soul competition. Wow. Oh boy. So I said, come let's take part.

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And yeah, we took part without our parents knowing it, without the school knowing it.

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Would your parents and the school give you issues about this at a time? My mom and dad

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might not be so keen about all this. Really? School was very strict. My brother Patrick,

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our director and Mr. The late Mr. Terrence. Terrence area. Terrence Oswald area. Yeah.

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Was my principal since Steven's school. Yeah, correct. Yeah. Yeah. He was my principal.

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Say Gerald Stoppold. Is that right? And then what happened, Chris, this is the best part.

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We went for the audition at the, what is this building now? Great world. Okay. Great world

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city. Great world city. Yeah. Great world. There was a club. Maybe old great world. Old great world.

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There was a nightclub called Flamingo nightclub. Okay. That's where the auditions and all the

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subsequent rounds going to be conducted. Okay. Went for the audition, we went through and they

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went through. So we went into the final. The final was held in at the national theater.

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We won. No. And we got $500 as a prize. Did your folks ever find out? Yeah, they found out after

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the papers came out about it. That was really... What happened? And then we went to school,

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feeling very proud about this achievement. Yeah. And a $500 means a lot to all of us.

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Sure. And in those days, of course, yes. We went for the assembly and everything was done. And then

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here comes our messenger, Mr. Erie. Mr. Erie. Smile. Okay. Went to our teacher and said, hey,

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Mr. Erie wants to see Gerald. Then I went down with him. I said, why? So you've come and see Mr.

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Erie and brother Patrick. I went to Mr. Erie and said, hey, Gerald, come here. How is it you took part?

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I said, yeah, we took part. I said, Mr. Rodriguez and Mr. Zazati was very...

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You know, I'm just... Mr. Rodriguez. Marvin Rodriguez. Marvin. The leg. Oh my goodness me.

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My teacher too. Is that? Yes. He just passed on not too long ago. Yes. I was there for his wake.

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Yeah. I was there for everything. I used to go and lend him the instruments for his Monday jam session

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at his home. He plays piano. He plays the piano. Yeah. And the organ. Yeah. And he was very fond of

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me. And so was my brothers and my son. Nice guy. Very nice. Very missed. Yes. Very good man. Yeah.

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So we and Fred Zazati. So anyway, Mr. Gerald, I want to tell your parents about what you do.

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I see my parents knew and they were not so happy about it. Like, no, no, no. I want to talk to them.

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I said, you're all right. Go. And my father was very strict about it. He said, listen, this is not

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good when the school is to call me. You're supposed to be studying. Oh man. I just cannot understand

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why the school took such a hard stance on this. You know, and then the best part Chris, we don't

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have many instruments in our. Yeah. Yeah. So all our rehearsals was done at Racecoast Road. Right.

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The home of Frankie Supiah, the backbone, the drummer of Experiment. Wow. He has got a very

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beautiful basement room converted to a studio and we practiced there virtually every weekend.

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So we practiced and later the experiments would be coming to a rear. Yeah. Yeah. Experiments got

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really big. Yeah. And then we used, yeah, because they were the guest band for the contest. Oh. They

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brought the instruments. So we were so happy to use because we are so familiar. So from there,

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we won the contest and then I knew the idols not going to last long because we all are in

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the final year of studies. Right. And you really listened to the school. I did. Wow. So I went to

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keep on studying, did our best. The boys all did well. They all did well. Academically, they are

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brilliant boys. I must say the boys are brilliant. I'm not that academically as them. Not as inclined.

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Not. Not. Yeah. Yeah. I'm okay. I know I can speak and talk and sing, but they are much, much, much

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better. They migrated to Australia. Can I just rewind back a little bit, the time when you

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were with the Redemptorist Priests in Nuvina Church and you became an altar server, then after

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which you went to the choir loft and with Brother Kashmir. Brother Kashmir, yeah. Okay. And can I

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safely say that the influence of music started there. Yes. So which means you started to realize

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you had a gift in that choir loft. Right. And the influence of music wasn't because at home

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your folks were playing records and you were listening to songs and you realized you love

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music. When do you realize you love music? Through the friend of Rediffusion.

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So which means in your much younger years. Yeah. How old were you then when you had that influence?

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Pretty young. The little box. The little box which your folks actually subscribed to. Rediffusion.

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Yeah. Yeah. Cable radio. So we were listening to Rediffusion. Yeah. I'm so happy to listen to

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KC Caseman. American Top 40. Yeah. American Top 40. So there was the influence and then

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of course on Sundays we listened to the, there's a radio program. On Radio One. Those days. Yeah.

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Now it's gold but in those days it was Radio One. So I used to listen to programs from there

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hosted by the various prominent DJs. Yeah. And I'm glued to it at four o'clock. Four o'clock date.

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No. So those were some of the things Chris that inspired me. So who would you, so who, is that

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going to be a person or something that you can safely say you attribute your love for music to?

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We know that attributing the fact that I've discovered I've got a talent I can sing was to

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Brother Cashmere on that choir loft in Novena Church. But the love for music was, who can you

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and what can you attribute this to? The influence. You know that my goodness this is music. I love it.

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You know and who brought that influence to you? It was because there were these implements like

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your Rediffusion set at home. Rediffusion set. Radio. Radio. And you hear songs coming out from it.

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And that's your influence. And then there's a Westpamalam. There's a Pasa Malam in Audit Road.

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Okay. That happens on Fridays. Okay. So all my kampung boys. Uh-huh. I had a kampung band also

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called the Peddlers. What? Okay. Along with the idols you had another band? Kampung band. So you

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had two bands together. The Peddlers you know. The Peddlers. Okay. So we go for the Pasa Malam. It's

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not because you want to buy anything. Because there is the Vespa Malam show. Vespa Malam show.

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Okay. Scooter. Oh the Vespa Scooter. Yeah. Wow. So we go there early. You got to stand huh. Uh-huh.

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And watch the bands. Oh Singapore is so fun man. That was great. Hey. Oh so fun man. We saw that

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band. Actually we we don't know them and they don't know us. So you mean you mean Pasa Malam

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back in the day. Yeah. Yeah. Had band performances. Orchard Road. At Orchard Road. Oh boy. Westpamalam.

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They call it Westpamalam. That happens on the Pasa Malam day. You know something man. I don't

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know what I missed. I mean that was awesome. You just go to a Pasa Malam free of charge.

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No Pasa Malam is the whole Orchard Road. Okay you're correct. Yeah. So it was like the. There's

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one ground there. Uh-huh. And then that ground is the Vespa Scooters and all this. Wow. I think so.

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And they're the sponsors. It's so fun man. Fantastic. Fun. It's free of charge. You just stand there

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watch the bands play. Oh wow. Unbelievable. So we see a number of bands. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Wowie.

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So. So okay. So now I'm because I asked this question of every one of every muso

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or person I pay tribute to for the show right. I asked him you know what what got you into this

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man. I mean how did you end up loving music. And most people actually say it's my folks. My parents.

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They play songs every day at home. They play records. They put on the radio. And in this case

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Rediffusion. I mean at that time Rediffusion right was subscribed for by your folks right. Your

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parents. So don't you think that you're indirectly you have your parents are thankful for this. Well

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just hey listening to that. And then Chris the Westpamalam. Yeah. And then don't forget the

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T-Dancers. Uh huh. Every Sunday. Okay. You had T-Dancers. T-Dancers. Oh okay. This band.

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That was influence. Yeah. So after that you did you tell yourself what did you tell yourself man.

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We saw all these. You loved it. You enjoyed the music. You enjoyed the way they perform. You

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enjoyed the way what these guys were doing. And then. They were influence anyway. And then you

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tell yourself that I'm going to do this. Yes. Was that the time. I knew I was heading to this.

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Okay. By watching this band from the 60s. I knew someday I'm going to do it. So I told the members

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of the idols. I will go into this. Okay. So I went in. And the idols broke up because they didn't

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want to go into music full time. Yeah. Because they have to go into university and stuff. Career

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world and all this. So we have to go separate ways after our last performance at the Sea Dragon.

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Okay. So you. Wait. So wait, wait, wait. There's a little gap there. So SGI. You guys from SGI

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formed a band. Won the contest. The Sanyo contest. The Soul contest. And then you ended up

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coming back to school. And then principal got to know about this. And you were discouraged from it.

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And you really listened. And you didn't get, you know, play anymore. But somehow the idols had gigs.

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Yep. On the quiet we were playing. Okay. So you didn't really listen. You guys were still playing.

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The idols played. Okay. All right. And our parents would say, well, just go and play and get $5 each.

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And then you got a second band at the same time. Yeah. The Peddlers. The Peddlers.

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Were all my neighborhood boys. Right. So you were playing for two bands in different places.

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Also gigging with the Peddlers, right? Peddlers were more for, we used to do a lot of

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camp. The British camps. Ah, I see, I see. We also did tea dances. Right. We also did house parties.

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Right. But the idols were more for club work. Just one or two. That's all. Kai, you can even

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bring up the volume for Jerry, please. A little bit. Why? Because you're kind of far from the mic.

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Yeah. Okay. Set the top already. Okay. Set the top. Okay. Right. Thanks, Kai. So Jerry,

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I'm just going to go on. So you realized that the potential, you got two bands, you guys were gigging

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and that was like, okay, 50 plus years back. Right. Now, did you think, what was the Jerry

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Fernandez you wanted to mold yourself into? And did you, in your mind, succeeded at that?

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As a performer, as an entertainer? Yes. I think. You had an idea? Yes. I knew at the very early age,

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as I was going into this, of course, Chris, you know, this business is an up and down thing,

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you know. Right. You can crumble and if you don't have the guts and you don't have the confidence,

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you don't have the determination, you said, that's enough. But I went on, in spite of being arrested

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in Bangkok. Oh, no, that's a sorry. Okay, okay. Please don't miss out on that one. I want to hear.

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All right. We were arrested in Bangkok because we did not have the proper work permit. Okay.

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We were sent home within 48 hours. Oh, deported. Yep. The whole band, the whole band. Which band

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was this? New faces. Oh boy. Okay. There was one and then, you know, there was bitter, very bitter.

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Then, as we were getting into club work, seriously, new faces are getting into club work. Right. The

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closure of Ulta Nightclub in 1973, Chris. Okay. So you're saying crumple. This is what you mean.

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Yeah, we crumple, man. I didn't notice it. Our manager at the time was Michael, the late Michael

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Tan. Okay. And he was trying to sort it out. We were supposed to play in one of the clubs,

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in the leading clubs. Right. All went bust. Because the clubs went bust.

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Nor they didn't go bust because the government implemented no more discos. Where? Singapore.

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Singapore. Yes. This is the time of the of the pink pussycat. I started in pink pussycat for one and

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a half years. Okay. I went to Kuala Lumpur. From Kuala Lumpur, we came back not long. No, Kuala Lumpur,

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Kuala Lumpur, Barbarella. Barbarella, yes. Barbarella is in Singapore. Singapore. Right.

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Ming Kuo Hotel. Right. So, we played this in 1973. It was a, we all clubs are closed.

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The only place that have got license to get on a band is clubs or pubs. I mean, restaurants. Yes.

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As long as you're running a restaurant license, you can have a live band.

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Mm hmm. And the live band stops at 12 midnight. Mm hmm. So, we were stuck. Wow.

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And that's when. It was clamped down. No. And then we went, we went out to Karachi.

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It was because of that. It was because Barbarella, pink pussycat were shut down.

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Then you guys decided we gotta find a way to to to continue doing this. Yes, yes, yes. And you flew

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to Karachi, Pakistan. Our manager, Michael Tan. Right. Ten story. He paved the way and he also

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had a partner. I mean, not a working, working personnel. Mm hmm. So, we got a picture of you,

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by the way. Of you standing in front. Of pink pussycat. Of pink pussycat. Oh yeah, that's it.

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Yeah. That's you, huh? Yeah, Chris. Whoa. That's, that's, that's 1972, Chris. Oh, I was two years

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old, man. You know, I, I had on the show, I had guys like Jason Shah, Ann Hussein, uh, Leonard

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Rezzle. That, you know this, right? And these guys all mentioned the pink pussycat. And I'm like,

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going nuts here. I'm like, going, what, where the hell was I, man? I'm not born yet, of course, but

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you know, everybody wanted to play at the pink pussycat. Everybody wanted to play in Barbarella.

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Yeah. And then sadly, both these clubs were shut down. Shut down. Sadly, man. Sadly. So, we left

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Singapore. It sounded like such a hip joint, man. It was. Wow. Pink pussycat, wow. Yeah.

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Yeah. I keep hearing the stories about these places, man. It was nice to be there at that point of

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time. And we were very happy to just go there and do what we're supposed to do, you know? Yeah. Yeah.

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Okay. So, now I know what Jerry did was to make sure that you and the band, New Faces, which I've

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yet to discover how that happened, New Faces, that is, decided that, listen, no matter what happens,

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there's got to find a, we got to find a way to just continue doing what we love with this, with

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your manager, which is Michael Tan, uh, that came up with the idea. Let's go to Karachi. Let's play

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there in Karachi, right? Now, let's talk about New Faces. The band has been around for how long?

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52 years as well? Yes, right. So, hang on. Jerry has been around 52 years. Jerry started with the

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Idols and then the, and the Peddlers. So, what, New Faces, when was that formed? All right, Chris.

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That was formed way back in 1969 till, and. 1969. What happened was when Idols and Battlers were no

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longer in existence. I still go and visit Michael Tan. Okay. Michael Tan in Slickie Road. Right. So,

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his office is called 10 Story. 10 Story is a room like this, slightly bigger for jamming and all

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this. Right. So, Michael said, Jerry, uh, I want to form a band, form a band for you. I said, Mike,

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uh, yeah. In that process, there was a band called, uh, Milky Way Electric Guitar Band.

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Wow. What a name. What a name. Sounds like an ice cream.

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So, they were looking for a singer to complement English song. Right. But they, they, they were

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playing, they were playing Chinese song. Yes. Ah, okay. So, no wonder Milky Way. Jerry, why not?

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You joined this band, you know? Yeah. I said, Mike, you know, I don't mind, but you know,

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see what they're playing. You just do your English stuff. Right. So, I went there and I rehearsed and

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then I got into the job. The boys were nice. After today, I'm still in touch with them. Right.

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And I told them a time came after Chinese Chamber of Commerce, we did a gig there. Wow. With this

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band. And I said, Hey, I have to leave this band. Why? Because I want to form my own band. Okay. So,

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Thomas wasn't too pleased with the, he's the leader of the band. Right. So, from that band,

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I knew there's one potential guy that is a thing, or better known as Ricky. Okay. He's saying,

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would you like to join me, you know? Because I may want to form another band. At that point in time,

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we were playing at Shindig nightclub. Shindig? In Dublin. Memes are so amazing, right? Dublin,

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Dublin road, you know? Yeah. And, uh, I think it was quite game to join. I went back to Michael

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and said, Mike, I'm leaving. I told him I'm leaving and blah, blah, blah. Okay. So, we started on,

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and then slowly we got one member of the, so it was a saying, Ricky then came friends as whole,

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was coming to Singapore on the third of June. Oh, okay. You mean he may have emigrated.

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Then comes Osman. Osman is already in Singapore. He's from Australia. He's here because we're

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giving a bash. Right. On the fourth, we all are getting together. Right. So, this is the original

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members of New Faces. Original. Yeah. Okay. Then there is Henry, the late Henry Tam of Master Way

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of the Keyboarders. Elmi Thayer, the drummer. Yeah. We're all distant members. Right. How many pieces

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is this? I failed to count just now. Okay. Myself, Francis, Ricky, Osman, Elmi. Five piece. And Henry.

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Six piece. This is the band and then we called it New Faces. Right. Why New Faces with a U?

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Because it started with a W, right? Yes. It's N-E-W. N-E-W first. At first. So, that's how we felt.

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Okay. Because there was nothing, you know, every day we are changing members, auditioning, looking

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for members. So, I decided, you know, we go as New Faces. New Faces. And then we hit the road,

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the first professional job was in Pink Pussycat. We've been on that for one and a half years.

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But, you know, why is it everyone that I've spoken with from your era,

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tell me so much about this place that they want to play there. What's the reason for that? Dudley

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Nones says because all the big bands were playing there, man. And to play at Pink Pussycat, it says,

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Ziff, you've just been given an award. You know, that's how it feels like to me. Pink Pussycat had

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some of the brilliant bands and musicians that were there. Yeah. So, my band, New Faces, we took

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over from the band called Top Cats and they were really top. Top Cats. Okay. So, we took over from

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there and then, yeah, there was no turning back. No, but the thing is, is that the reason, same

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reasons Dudley has said that you guys also wanted to play at the Pink Pussycat? No, I have nothing.

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What's wrong with that? I mean, what's so good about the place? What happened? It's happening,

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like, Chris. The term is happening. It's crowded. It's back. You've got the white guys and local

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guys and it's just going, you know, from nine till four in the morning. Wow. Every band. So,

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I was actually, not that I wanted to go to Pink Pussycat. No, no, no. I went to Pink Pussycat

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because I went there just to check it out. And the entertainment manager there was Alfonso Sousa.

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Oh my goodness. Hey Alfonso, shut up to you again. Because every time I have someone from that era,

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your name comes up. You started with Jason because Gingerbread, Alfonso took care of Gingerbread.

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Right, right, right. Yeah. So, I was like, Alfonso, you've got a band, I said, God, because

354
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Pink Pussycat looking for a band. Yeah. He was an entertainment manager in Pink Pussycat. He was

355
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actually in charge of entertainment and also the sound and lights and whatever. Wow. Okay, okay.

356
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Everything and anything has got to do with the entertainment. He's a graduate from all this kind

357
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of studies and also he's my senior schoolmate. He was with Naomi and the boys, right? Yes, yes, yes.

358
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So, we went for the audition. On the second, third song, I said, okay, it's done.

359
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So, we started there. It's not that I wanted to go to Pink Pussycat, it's just by chance I went there.

360
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Right, right. But to me, it's like if a band back then had played at the Pink Pussycat,

361
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it was like a badge of honor somehow. If you play along the Autid Road strip, it's an honor.

362
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It's an honor. Okay. Pink Pussycat, Barbarella, Tropicana. The pub, Tropicana. So, these are

363
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the places that you, if you get in, hey, look, I'm someone. Okay. We are someone. Wow. So fun, man.

364
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So darn fun. Oh damn good. Yeah. And then after that, they all shut down. Ouch. Okay. So, let's

365
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get from there then. New faces, they ended up in Karachi. How was it like? It's a world of

366
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:47,040
difference because from Bangkok, we got arrested and sent home. Yeah. From there to Karachi was a

367
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different thing. Karachi was, wow, and we've all dressed in suit, you know. Right. We were flying

368
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on Pan American. Well, Pan Am. Wow. So, the minute we land in Karachi, I said, what the hell.

369
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So, at the time, I was accompanied by Audil. Okay. I don't know who's that. He's the company.

370
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He was the band leader of Silver Strings. Okay. Okay. Silver Strings band leader. All right.

371
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So, I said, what the hell. So, when Michael told us, keep on with your suit, you got to impress.

372
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This is a big hotel. Which hotel was this? Metropole Hotel. The Metropole. Okay. Okay.

373
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If you look at Metropole, is you're looking at the same facade or maybe

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as the old Raffles Hotel here in Singapore. Ah, it's a colonial looking style. Very colonial. Right.

375
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So, we landed and everything was given good treatment and stuff like that.

376
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And we started to play at the very prestigious supper club called Sama. In Karachi as well.

377
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Metropole Hotel. In Metropole. Okay. So, Sama is a place where who and who has to be there.

378
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Not anyone. So, it's a real grand kind of place. Oh, yeah. Sama is grand at that time

379
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during the reign of the late President Ali Bhutto.

380
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Oh, this was during President Ali Bhutto's time. Yeah. And then.

381
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Benazir Bhutto's father. Benazir's father. I met her when she was a young girl. Yes.

382
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:24,000
Wow. And the one she got, she got married to Asif Zardari. We know Asif before he got married to

383
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Benazir. Wow. He come and patronize the club. Yeah. But prior to us going there, there were other

384
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local Singapore bands who made it there. Oh, yes. So, when the bars and clubs started shutting down

385
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over me to shut down back in the day, Pink Pussycat, Barbarella, all gone. Singapore bands had problems

386
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then. Of course. Not just you guys, of course. Across the board, right? Like, where do we play

387
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now? Yeah. So, most of these guys took the opportunity to travel out to Singapore.

388
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Some of them are lucky, not everybody. Okay. So, the lucky ones like you guys. We were lucky and

389
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we went on and immediately after finishing our term. Yeah. We were booked to National Stadium

390
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at the Tilted Anchor. Okay. Okay. And then from there was no turning back wrist. We went on and

391
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on and on and then. So, how long were you in Karachi? Six and a half months. Okay. Six and

392
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a half. There's not a bad stretch. Just quite a. Yeah. Yeah. And after Karachi, what do you guys

393
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do? From Karachi, we came back to Singapore and we were performing at the National Stadium.

394
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Wait a second. National Stadium. The old National Stadium. Yeah, the old one but.

395
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Tuck in there. Okay. That was. Is the National Stadium restaurant. Oh, did we have one? Oh,

396
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yes. Restaurant plus Tilted Anchor. Wait. Tilted Anchor had always been in the National Stadium,

397
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you mean? Within the complex of the restaurant. Okay. So, Tilted Anchor was where you in your

398
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early years were the idols. No, idols I did not. Wait, hang on. Where I lost you along the way.

399
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Tilted Anchor, you guys had the contract at the Tilted Anchor, right? When you were younger. No,

400
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did not. No, no. Okay, okay. When we were younger, not as new faces. Right, yeah. We as the idols.

401
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Yes. We were only doing relief at the Sea Dragon. Oh, the Sea Dragon. Okay, I'm sorry. I got,

402
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I got rached up. Okay. So, let me get back to the current story. Tilted Anchor is located within

403
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the National Stadium. Yes, yes, yes. Yeah, okay. And you guys got a gig there. Yes, we had our gig

404
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there. How is it at that time, these places like the Tilted Anchor was never shut down?

405
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Because it was running as an operation, restaurant operations. Right. So, they were not merely a pub

406
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or a disco, you know, restaurant. Okay, so they were not stereotyped. No, they were restaurant and

407
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then they could have a band. Yeah. The band has to play the Tilted Anchor and play at the restaurant.

408
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:22,400
Right. So, they can have the license but the lights are not supposed to be dim. Oh, really?

409
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:27,840
Yeah, yeah. That's a whole crap. You mean there were rules like that? The lights got to be a certain

410
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percentage of lighting. Oh, man. And I, and back in the day, back in the time, Jerry, when, when I,

411
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when I'm starting to feel like, oh wow, those are great years, man. But then again, when the people

412
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really wanted to rock it out, then we have, then we have the rules that stopped you from rocking out.

413
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And today, I want people to rock out. No one wants to rock out, man. You know, you know what I mean?

414
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The long hair trend. Yeah, yeah. I wanted to ask you about that. The rules about long hair. Did you

415
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have long hair then? Very. And did you get in trouble for that? Yeah, we did. Okay, what kind

416
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of trouble, man? We were warned to cut our hair. Warned by the cops? By the authorities. Okay. Which

417
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authority would this be? The cops, right? The cops. Yeah, yeah. Okay. So, they told you guys to cut

418
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your hair. Everyone had long hair in a band and you guys didn't. We had long hair. Did you cut your

419
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hair? I cut, I cut. You cut it? Sure. My goodness. So you guys listened and cut your hair? Because

420
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you were in a contract. Yeah. You're told to do and we went on. Oh boy. There was a, there was a

421
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picture I found of the band and you at the hands of a barber. This one. All right. Okay. What's the

422
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story there, man? This is the second batch of boys. Okay, so New Faces had, had a few changes of 19.

423
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The boys? Band members. Were with me in 19. Take your time, take your time. The ones that have been with me from

424
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1969. Have a drink of water, man, if you like. Finished, man. Oh, finished? Yeah. Okay. This is the second set, you know.

425
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:20,000
Hey, Kai. Could you just step over for a bit and just maybe just grab a quick water for him, please?

426
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:26,720
Yeah, thanks so much, man. Okay, okay. I know the camera is so sad on me. Yay! We're not taking a

427
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break here because I think I got to get Jerry another, another, another glass of water. Or I really

428
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:39,840
need it. So Kai rules have gone out kindly to get him water. So let's, let's, let's continue talking though.

429
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Though the camera is sad on me. So basically, long hair is an issue.

430
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Lights cannot be dimmed. And then you guys, oh my goodness gracious me, when you have people,

431
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there's so much love to entertain people. And you got stuck with all that, all those crazy rules.

432
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I don't want to mention the D word on air because you know why? For the audience, you ought to know

433
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this as well. Because some algorithm picks up the D word and then after which the show might not be

434
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able to be aired for some strange reason. Okay. So let's just call it, if I ever use the term,

435
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I'm going to use the term the D word. Yeah. You know what I mean? So it's because of the D word

436
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that the authorities came down pretty hard on this, right? Because there was a kind of an epidemic

437
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going around. A campaign. Long hair will be served last. Long hair is one thing, but long hair is also

438
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associated with people involved in underworld activities. Right? Basically, they look at

439
00:50:50,240 --> 00:50:58,720
musicians having long hair. Is it because of your musician or is it because there were issues with

440
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that D word? You know what I mean? And of course, as well, any other underworld secret society

441
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involvement. So that's the reason why these guys were just basically across the board, broad strokes,

442
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and say, if you've got long hair, we will recognize you or suspect you to be one of these kind of people.

443
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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, but it's so sad, man. You know, when I think about this, I mean, that's the reason

444
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why the Rolling Stones took so many years to come to Singapore. Rolling Stones and I believe-

445
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Keith Richards didn't want to cut his hair. I believe Keetaro. Keetaro. He's coming anywhere now,

446
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:43,360
but he did come, but he had to lube off his hair. And Eric Clapton, when he was here, he was told

447
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:52,480
he can't play one particular song. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. I just think, I mean, I don't

448
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know. Okay. Granted, back in the day, Singapore is still a very young nation. It was. Yeah. I mean,

449
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we're still young though now, but definitely back then we were very, very, very young. But let's go

450
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:09,120
back to that picture again, Kai. Can we put that picture up again? Now this would have been a great

451
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way to say, see, we don't have long hair. No, this, this has a story to it. Yeah. What's the story?

452
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:26,000
Okay. This is the second batch of boys. Now the first batch, the first batch of boys-

453
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In new faces. The new faces. We're heading to Kuala Lumpur to play at the Tomorrow Disco.

454
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:38,720
Right. That's a place everyone got to be there. Okay. Tomorrow. Yeah. Tomorrow. So we had a

455
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contract. Of course it was, it was handled by Michael Tan, the late Michael Tan. Right. Your

456
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manager. Yeah. And all the, you know, so we went there and before that we thought we have to create

457
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an identity. Just mere music is not going to bring us any fallout or let's do something creative.

458
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:08,000
Mm hmm. So the, the thing came up. We got to go ball. Okay. Shape ball. Okay. From long hair to

459
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ball. We did it. The first one to shave ball was the drummer Raymond Renee Francis. Okay.

460
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:22,000
Then followed by all of us. You guys all decided to do that hairstyle. Yeah, except there's one

461
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:34,400
reluctant, the late Henry. Okay. Your pianist. Yeah. I said, Henry, let's do it. So we did it.

462
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When in Kuala Lumpur, it was a big, big hit, Chris. Okay. That hairstyle is like a, a genie, man.

463
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:49,840
It's like Aladdin, man. Because we have the pigtail. Yeah. Yeah. We had a pigtail and every day

464
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:55,040
before we start, we would put all that up. Didn't you guys get in trouble for that look? No.

465
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At that time, Chris, when we went to Kuala Lumpur in a particular period of time,

466
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:06,880
there was a massive hunt for Bo Tat Chin, the gangster, the wanted one or something like that.

467
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:11,760
Okay. His name is Bo Tat Chin. They call him. And we were coinciding with the press report ball.

468
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So it was like, wow, this is happening. Anyway, we were, we were doing well.

469
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We were just, we just took over from the fly baits. Right. Wow. So we went on there and then

470
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we kept this ball gimmick in the midst of the ball gimmick. Oh, we came back to Singapore.

471
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Uh-huh. Uh, we were booked at the Oasis nightclub. Okay. Oasis nightclub. And I agreed that we will

472
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:53,840
play at the club. Yeah. But with that same hairstyle. But the same hairstyle, but different

473
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:59,760
deal. But I noticed in that picture, there's a girl in the band. That happened, Chris. I'm coming

474
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:07,520
to the story. Okay. We went down to Oasis and we did, we did our stand there. And then, uh,

475
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:17,520
there was a change of personalities in the band. That was 1977. Okay. So with the changes came

476
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:24,480
that picture, that picture that you just saw. Yeah. Yeah. And we had a girl singer there. Yeah.

477
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:33,280
Female lead, huh? Linda Chung. So we were getting into Imperial Hotel then. Okay. But this new badge.

478
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Right. We want to create the same identity. And then we went for it. But this identity

479
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of the Imperial, we went to Taiwan. Wow. And Japan. Wow. And we did our own, uh, in Hong Kong,

480
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:57,600
we did the TV show, a 30 minute special TV show. Wow. You guys managed to get to travel to these

481
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:02,400
countries to perform. You mean you had, you had contracts. Yeah. No, we had all the connections.

482
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:07,360
Okay. Uh, audio also played a very important role here. You know, it was trying, you know,

483
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:17,840
so we went to Hong Kong, the art TV station, the art TV. Yeah. They got us to do this TV show.

484
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:24,640
Wow. They were like, wow, just ball. So how many, okay. That was the second batch of band members

485
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:32,560
were new faces, second batch. So the band, the new faces have lasted all these years

486
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because the band survived, but the members have always changed. We had a change of 23 members in

487
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:51,200
all. Oh boy. Oh wow. 23 members. My goodness. But still maintaining the band brand. Yeah. Yeah.

488
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:58,480
We still, I still, I am responsible for this. The beautiful thing is all these members who came,

489
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:05,040
they lasted for a long time, Chris. Okay. The current band, the current lineup of boys

490
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:12,240
is longer still. Right. The longest was my drummer, Mokdara-san, who's not well now,

491
00:57:12,240 --> 00:57:19,920
he's on wheelchair. He's been with me for 35 long years. Wow. So most of the band members from the

492
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:27,280
very get go from the beginning and through the years left mostly generally because, okay, I'm

493
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:34,080
moving on. I've done enough. Yes. Yes. Yes. Okay. I'm moving on in life. Yes. Okay. And then of

494
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course you replaced these guys and continued the legacy of the band. Yeah. Wow. I continued

495
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:46,960
everything. I told them, the time will come when you have to go and you go. And when you go,

496
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I feel sad, but I will always keep you always in my relationship. I'll never discard you all the

497
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way. So I served the boys well, Chris. I tell you, not one single member have I left them down.

498
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:10,240
I was there in time of their needs. Yeah. I mean, they are grateful to that and I'm very grateful.

499
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It was proven in my 45th anniversary of the band. Right. When we played it, that X-planet

500
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:24,720
and the recital, the boys came down where they flew. Ah, the former members. They flew.

501
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:29,760
The older members from before. The older members, they came. They came. Did they jam with you guys?

502
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:36,560
Only one Francis jammed with us. On Johnny Be Good, he played instead of guitar solo,

503
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:41,600
he played the saxophone solo. Wow. I said, Francis, go for it. I know I just want,

504
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:47,680
the rest of the members were not prepared. They said, you know, we are all here for you. Just go.

505
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So I was very touched about that. And also this 4th of June, I'm very, it's going to be emotional

506
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because you're going to see all the boys back. What's happening on the 4th of June? 4th of June,

507
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:09,280
we are meeting because Francis wants to come to Singapore and meet all of us. Right. So I told

508
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:18,640
Osman from Australia, Osman flew here. Elmi is already in Indonesia, he's coming in and

509
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:25,120
are saying all of us will meet for a lunch. It's not so much of the lunch, Chris. It's so much about

510
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:33,360
being together. But the particular moment then, that little magic of emotion will gripe me.

511
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I'm pretty sure it will. It's not easy. I ran the band, put a lot of feeling.

512
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I can feel the pulses of all the members at the band. Yeah, they're much, they've grown older than

513
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:55,440
me, but I still treat them well. Yeah, because there's so many cherished memories, man. It goes

514
00:59:55,440 --> 01:00:02,480
way, way back. And you guys, the current New Faces, Jerry and the New Faces had this performance

515
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:10,800
for Pick Kill. Oh yeah. I've been in the Pick Kill Theater, the Moment Theater. I've been with them

516
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:18,400
since December 13th, 2013. 13 December 2013 till today. Okay. And what do you do there?

517
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:25,200
I'm a producer for the shows. I'm a compare. And we are the main act. Well, shall I say we are the act.

518
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:32,960
Right. Then I got all of our fellow musicians, whoever I can help, whoever is suitable, come on board.

519
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:41,200
Come on board. Okay. So in every show, there'll be ourselves and two others. Right. Right. So it's

520
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:48,000
wow. So that is really what you've been doing now for the last 11 years. Yeah. You wrote a book,

521
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:52,480
To Be a Rock and Not to Roll. Oh yeah. That is like Led Zeppelin, Stay Away to Heaven, man.

522
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:59,600
No. To Be a Rock and Not to Roll. There you go. Actually, there was, before we settled on this

523
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:09,440
particular title, we had The Impossible Dream. Okay. The Impossible Dream and many, we had three

524
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:14,960
changes in the book cover and the title. Okay. So finally we went for To Be a Rock but Not to Roll.

525
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:24,800
And that was written, the first 23 pages was written by me. Okay. So my publisher, who I know

526
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:29,920
very well, my senior school boy, schoolmate, Mr. Gomez, Douglas Gomez said, Jerry, look,

527
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:36,480
we must get professional writers. You got to sing, you got to write, no, you will, you know. Yeah.

528
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:43,280
So he spread words around and we got Robert Consencio. Right. So Robert came on board and

529
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:52,400
he was so happy because he had never written a book on a musician. So neither. So this is your

530
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:58,800
biography. Of course. Yeah. It is. Right. It's a story of you. Exactly. And in there is also

531
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:05,280
reflections of my past life, the reflection to the bands that I grew with, those who inspired me,

532
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:15,040
those who say this and that. And my entire thing from my career, Singapore, Europe, Hong Kong,

533
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:20,160
everything. Oh, wow. Wow. Wow. Wait, wait. You said just now Taiwan, Hong Kong, Japan, you guys

534
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:24,400
traveled to Europe as well. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Geez. You guys were like the experiments, man,

535
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:28,960
because I know that the experiments played in Europe too, right? They went earlier. Ah,

536
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:33,360
oh, those guys were hot band back then. They went there earlier. I mean, of course,

537
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:39,680
the earliest Singapore band as a band was the all girl band called the Teepees.

538
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:47,120
Well, I never heard of them, the Teepees. The Teepees were the first band to pave the way for

539
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:52,960
local Singapore ex. Where? In Europe. Whoa. Were they? Yeah. The Teepees. They were different

540
01:02:52,960 --> 01:03:01,840
more than 10 years. Oh, wow. And then came experiments, the adapters. Adapters. Okay.

541
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:13,200
Bandidos. Danny Koh. Ah, Danny Koh, yes. Then I think it's ourselves. Oh. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

542
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:20,480
Okay. How about Roses and Sor Solito? They were just a duo. Yeah. Moses and Chris. Moses and

543
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:25,520
Chris. Yeah. They never, never been there. I see. Okay. Only via, they really wanted that

544
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:33,120
work on the grounds of the European continents that they're covering. Austria, Finland, Switzerland.

545
01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:44,240
Oh boy. Southern Italy and. Oh boy. Scandinavia. Holy shit. Man, I'm killed to do that, man.

546
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:51,760
So you guys really had a lot of fun, huh? We had a lot of fun. We had a lot of experiences. We're

547
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:59,040
facing a lot of challenges because, you know, every place that we go, the repertoire change,

548
01:03:59,040 --> 01:04:03,760
the people, the different tastes, different tastes. And we got to work hard on that. We got

549
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:10,480
to keep pounding. And yeah, those are the things that were, it's a challenge, but that brought the

550
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:16,160
bands so much closer. Yep. Yep. Yep. Cause you guys had to work together. So, so you're not going

551
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:20,960
to get tight as a band. Very. Be able to recognize your demographics of people you need to perform

552
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:29,040
for. Yes. Yeah. My goodness. So we were lucky, Chris. We're lucky and we had a chance to play

553
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:37,920
to be with the Blattis. I had Jennifer Rush. Jennifer Rush. That was in the eighties. Yes.

554
01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:46,400
My goodness. Running up that hill. Oh no, at that time her song was Ring of Fire. Okay. And then

555
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:56,720
there comes another prominent performer. The New Faces of England, UK. That's why it became N-E-U.

556
01:04:57,840 --> 01:05:07,920
Oh, so you guys were recognized in the UK. Is it? And then. No, we were recognized in Europe and

557
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:16,000
we wanted to change it because we are appearing with the New Faces and Charles McKay, the leader,

558
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:22,880
saying, oh, we got new faces. So when we had those changes, we printed t-shirts and all this.

559
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:30,080
Quickly, we went into recording and we were offered to record in Malay with Polygram,

560
01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:39,120
which we did. We emphasize it's N-E-U. Okay. So you guys did an album or a few? Mukhabaru 1.

561
01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:45,680
1. We supposed to do the second one. Mukhabaru New Faces. So we were supposed to do the second

562
01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:52,320
album, but I did tell the authorities at Polygram that, you know, I have to travel, you know,

563
01:05:52,960 --> 01:06:01,600
if I do that, can I just take it off from here? Because, and they bought all the songs anyway.

564
01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:06,800
They bought all the songs. Right. So that was the Malay album. And then,

565
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:16,160
yeah. And then I did my, latest was the two songs to Queen's Seventh and the 50th anniversary.

566
01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:20,160
Right. And it was written by me. Right. The two originals. Yeah. Originals. Okay.

567
01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:26,560
How did the original came by? Because I wrote it during the COVID. But the other one, the 4U,

568
01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:33,840
was written for me by a good friend of ours, the original member of Gingerbread, Gary Cui.

569
01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:40,960
Gary Cui is now a preacher in Taiwan. Hey, Jason Shahoo. Why didn't you tell me about this guy?

570
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:45,120
No, he doesn't know probably. He doesn't know. Maybe slipped the mind. Oh, this was during

571
01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:51,520
Gabriel's time. Yeah. But the name Gingerbread only occurred after Jason got in and then Alfonso

572
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:57,440
gave the name. Okay. Prior to that, they were, it's an offshoot of the band called Cold Sweat.

573
01:06:57,440 --> 01:07:07,760
Yes, Cold Sweat. Then say, ah, here we go again. For the third time, I'm hearing this name,

574
01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:15,440
Cold Sweat. Oh boy. When Jason, I say this all the time. Every time someone mentions that band's

575
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:20,320
name, Jason told me about that name. I laughed and nearly fell off my chair. Then Dudley mentioned

576
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:24,640
it. I laughed again and nearly fell off my chair. I am not going to fall off my chair this time.

577
01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:31,360
I'm kind of numb now when I hear that crazy name, Cold Sweat. Who the hell names a band, Cold Sweat?

578
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:36,160
I mean, there were so many cool names you mentioned earlier on, right? What the Milky Bar?

579
01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:42,320
Milky Way Electric Guitar Band. I mean, I mean, even that's a bit quirky, but it's kind of cool.

580
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:46,960
In between all this, Chris, I had a band called Foreign Policy before my national service. Oh,

581
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:51,200
that's cool, man. Foreign Policy is cool. Yeah, that was nice. Then you cannot want Cold Sweat.

582
01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:59,440
Foreign Policy was a very, you know, we didn't last long, you know. We didn't last long. We had

583
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:03,760
good members in the band. We had national service obligations, study of obligations.

584
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:08,880
Yeah, disruption. But we recorded pirate records, you know. Really? Under the King's label.

585
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:16,480
Holy shit. All cover songs. I mean, it was like, okay, a little bit of a cowboy town we were,

586
01:08:16,480 --> 01:08:23,840
right? But it was fun too. It was. I mean, you guys do a little bit of, you know, just bend the

587
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:28,880
law a little bit. We do pirate records. We did. Because we didn't know what we were hitting for.

588
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:36,080
We were excited about recording. And here's Mr. Leung from King's, Sundari Ambahar or whatever.

589
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:42,240
Only you all to record. It's a one night affair, you know, at an online studio in Jurong.

590
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:47,600
Uh huh. Oh man. We did it for him. And he was a nice man. We would get it paid.

591
01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:52,640
But not so much of all that, of course. We just wanted to do it and enjoy ourselves.

592
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:56,880
No man, yeah. It's about the music, man. It's always about the music, man. It's the beat,

593
01:08:56,880 --> 01:09:02,800
the music, the feel of it, man. I mean, if today you were not really under the weather,

594
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:09,440
I would have loved to sing Long Train Running with you. I took a couple of hours to remaster

595
01:09:09,440 --> 01:09:14,320
the remastered backing track and stuff, you know, and I was so looking forward, but it's cool. No

596
01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:19,440
pressure, man. I mean, I know. I understand. I understand. I hear you. I hear you cough. I know.

597
01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:29,280
It's cool. This was exactly where the whole band was floating. And I, yeah, the ball

598
01:09:29,280 --> 01:09:37,600
ball covered a few places in Hong Kong, Taiwan and Japan. Well, Bangkok ball.

599
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:50,000
And why I grew our hair back. Yeah. Okay. When we came back from Japan, we were in Osaka,

600
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:58,400
or Kyoto. We were playing the Royal Dominus. Came back. So my mom and dad were saying,

601
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:07,120
you're going in, going out and your girlfriend or something. I said, then how, dad? Mom said,

602
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:13,520
it's time that you get married. And this gimmick, what does all this have to go?

603
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:21,520
And I said, this, I got to talk to my manager. So I told my girls in my listen,

604
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:27,360
mom and dad says, I got to get married. If you get married, go to Hong Kong,

605
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:33,280
good Hong Kong, you know, I said, but I got to get married. Man. My mom and dad is telling me,

606
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:40,640
sit the man took the Marianne Marianne Olivero is my wife. Yes. So told Marianne,

607
01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:48,080
Marianne, no, I got to talk to my parents. And I've been, you know, sorry, he hasn't proposed

608
01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:55,600
to be yet. You know, it's just that my mom, my dad's idea, you get Cyril and Ivy to come here.

609
01:10:56,720 --> 01:11:03,920
Who? My in-laws. Right. Right. Okay. So when they say, dad, mom, my parents want to see you.

610
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:08,480
And they say, so they've been going along for how many years? Do you know how many years?

611
01:11:08,480 --> 01:11:15,680
Yes. Yeah. They got to get married. They have got to get married. Okay. They're going to get

612
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:25,920
engagement done this May 26th. Engagement. Those days engagement, engagement. And one year from

613
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:33,280
there, he'll get married. 1979. He will get married. That will give him enough time to grow his hair.

614
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:40,240
Yeah. Then my wife's grandfather, a grandfather and a grandma, my grandmother, okay. But her

615
01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:47,120
grandfather and mom, can you walk down the granddaughter wall with all this gimmick, you know?

616
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:53,680
It's okay. Grew my hair. I grew my hair. Then what happened to the Hong Kong gig?

617
01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:55,440
We went to Hong Kong with her.

618
01:11:55,440 --> 01:12:01,600
Her mic was like, hey, talk to me. And I said, hey.

619
01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:10,320
Okay. Okay. We've been talking for a while now. So just a few more things before we say goodbye.

620
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:20,400
Looking at the music scene today and to the young musos today, what advice would you give

621
01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:27,680
to them? Those who dream of a career longevity. Nowadays, I don't know whether young people think

622
01:12:27,680 --> 01:12:32,800
about having career longevity, but assuming that there are still some of those out there,

623
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:40,160
what would you say? From my experience, Chris, is sheer determination. Okay. That's one word.

624
01:12:40,160 --> 01:12:49,840
Stay focused. You may fall along the way. Definitely you'll fall, but pick it up. Continue. You must

625
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:56,160
have the passion and the feel for what. And this music or singing or whatever instrument you play,

626
01:12:56,160 --> 01:13:03,360
it's a gift from the Lord Almighty. You can get back to maths and practice. You can practice

627
01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:10,880
any other writing in English essays and whatever. You can do that, but don't come and tell me music

628
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:18,000
can be done in the same manner. No way. It is a gift. It's a spiritual gift. At the time of your

629
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:26,080
birth, the Lord had just destined what you will be like. Then if you be, you'd be one. Like you,

630
01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:36,240
you and the late Rolling Stones drummer, right? He's a lawyer, but he's playing drums.

631
01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:47,440
Amen. The Stones, man. Sticky fingers, dude. I tell you, I always feel very

632
01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:53,360
elevated when I read about people's background and the determination they had. And then they

633
01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:59,840
went into music. Actually music is a calling, Chris. And they have to, whoever, whoever,

634
01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:07,680
at any period of your journey, you want to do music, go and do it. But sure, determination,

635
01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:18,720
willpower. Don't quit. Don't quit. Don't quit. Continue, man. Okay. And to end off, this interview.

636
01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:21,760
Oh, Chris, you forgot about something. Yeah, I forgot about it. What did I forget?

637
01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:26,640
There's something very, very, very important that happened in my life.

638
01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:34,640
Okay. Did I miss something? You missed. Please remind me. I was, I was thinking you would have

639
01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:40,160
come to that point, but you- What did I miss? Okay. About the divine

640
01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:47,360
blessing that I had. I didn't know about this. If you had a copy of my book. No, I don't. I don't

641
01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:53,040
have a copy of your book. That's a chapter called the divine intervention. Okay. Tell me about this.

642
01:14:53,040 --> 01:15:04,800
That is when in 1997. Okay. When I came back from Dubai. Okay. No, 1997, just before going to Dubai

643
01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:15,200
to perform. All right. October 15th. It was a Friday. Right. My contract with BMB,

644
01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:22,240
six months and I'm performing. I went there 15th of October afternoon soundcheck.

645
01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:30,720
The whole thing belonged to the Japanese. Okay. I was okay. It's only okay. Okay, guys,

646
01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:37,200
tomorrow we are starting 11th soundcheck before we- Not a word, Chris.

647
01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:42,000
What do you mean? I can't. You lost your voice. Yes, totally.

648
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:48,800
How? I don't know. I was in tears. There's nothing could come out.

649
01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:53,280
Oh wow. And? Not even one syllable. Oh dear.

650
01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:59,200
And I stopped at that point and I told my guys, my guys were looking. I went to the

651
01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:07,600
general manager, the boss, I got this problem. I said, go and see a doctor now.

652
01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:16,480
I went to see my closest family doctor who was treating me, Dr. Sural Kishore.

653
01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:21,680
Cause he's a violinist and a pianist. You see, violinist and a pianist.

654
01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:27,600
Yeah. He was a doctor. Yeah. Yeah. So I went there. He said, hey, what happened? Come sit down.

655
01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:37,120
Hey, Batman, Jerry. I said, then what should I do? He said, go to Jalan Baza, take the Liang Te.

656
01:16:37,120 --> 01:16:43,000
Yeah. I went to see the Liang Te, the Chinese physician. Yeah. Hey,

657
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:48,160
and they gave me something and said, you rest for two hours, three hours. You'll be all right.

658
01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:56,720
Right. Two hours went by. I was so excited. No voice. I went back to Sural again. His clinic

659
01:16:56,720 --> 01:17:04,320
is called Goodwill. Catholic. Okay. I'm going to give you a letter. You go to Glan Eagle and see

660
01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:15,360
the Ralph Stanley specialist. He and his specialist went there. He was there. No. Yeah.

661
01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:22,160
He was attending to a Japanese client. Then his assistant called me in.

662
01:17:22,160 --> 01:17:32,400
Sit down. Sit down. What's happened? Say no voice. I'm writing. I went in my mouth. I pulled my tongue.

663
01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:42,560
Oh Jerry, this is bad. What's this is bad? See what happened to me. Okay. He said, you are having

664
01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:51,600
chronic laryngitis. Oh wow. And this needs surgery. Oh no. I broke down man. I said,

665
01:17:53,040 --> 01:18:03,040
create surgery. He said, no. Drink some water. You'll be all right. Don't worry. I'm going to show you

666
01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:10,560
before I do the surgery. Arrested. He called me back. He put in his tubes in there. There's a

667
01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:16,000
screen there. He said, this is what you are suffering. You're bleeding from the

668
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:22,400
channel. You're breathing and you're in this bleeding. It's going to be even worse.

669
01:18:24,480 --> 01:18:31,840
And you need a surgery. I said, can you do it now? I said, I can, but you're not going to sing

670
01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:44,240
for the next six months. I said, I got my two boys in school. And they said, I might have to do.

671
01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:49,040
Say, I'm willing to do the surgery. Go get dressed and come back. I'll lie down there. He put

672
01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:53,440
everything out. He said, you want me to put you to sleep? I said, no, I want to see what you're doing.

673
01:18:55,760 --> 01:19:00,640
It's going to be painful. So he ran and doing it. I'm both, you know, how long was it?

674
01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:11,920
The procedure was about close to 50 minutes. I can see everything. Finished. A bit knocked out.

675
01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:17,920
They prescribed everything and then the coach and everything. And then all the medication.

676
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:25,840
Said, you're not going to sing. I'm going to give you a testimonial. And this x-ray,

677
01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:32,640
I went straight to the Japanese boss and said, no, I can't sing for six months. I said, never mind.

678
01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:40,000
You take care. We'll get the substitute to sing in. So that's what happened. So that was,

679
01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:46,320
that was a scenario. There was Thursday, Friday and Saturday. And normally I and my wife and my

680
01:19:46,320 --> 01:19:52,240
two boys will attend the novena. But they are all to serve as there too. They went and came back.

681
01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:59,840
They said, dad, there's a healing priest. I said, where? St. Michael church? Oh, we should go there.

682
01:20:01,120 --> 01:20:08,080
Andrew, what went to St. Michael church? Chris, what, look at the people that there. So many,

683
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:14,240
you know, when you are wanting and you feel so rejected, I said, both of you go and check it out.

684
01:20:14,240 --> 01:20:22,160
They went. Dad, a lot of people that, why not you come back tomorrow? What's happening tomorrow?

685
01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:31,280
There's a special prayer session dealing for those children taking the exams. I said, okay. What time?

686
01:20:31,280 --> 01:20:41,760
Four o'clock. I came alone, Chris. I drove. I went there at 2.45. Okay. 2.45 Chris. I parked

687
01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:47,040
the church inside the church compound and I woke up because St. Michael church, the sacristy is on

688
01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:56,960
top of it. Okay. And I saw this figure. This must be the priest. I called him. He came. I said,

689
01:20:58,480 --> 01:21:09,440
father, I can't sing. And I need to sing. Come. And he started to pray over you. Okay. Well, Chris,

690
01:21:09,440 --> 01:21:18,960
he prayed when he spoke to me, Chris, the tone is different. His tone of voice is different. Okay.

691
01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:26,240
When he started to put his hand on my head and he said, you will sing like the choirs of angels.

692
01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:36,480
And his hands were trembling, man. And I'm crying. I'm crying. He helped me say, you came in faith.

693
01:21:36,480 --> 01:21:44,000
I said, thank you. No, you don't thank me. You thank the one above. I came so far. I thought Chris

694
01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:53,280
had muscle. I attend a healing service. I managed to get the fourth pew from the friend. One.

695
01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:59,760
And then sat down. I was in prayers like Chris, you know, come what may, I just praying, praying.

696
01:21:59,760 --> 01:22:07,360
I was crying also because one of my sons, all fees and whatever, responsibilities. Yeah. Then the

697
01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:14,160
service started. There was father with his all everything. And father Vincent Lim was there.

698
01:22:14,160 --> 01:22:29,680
Okay. Offertree. At the offer tree, Chris, I sang. Oh, wow. Chris, just so for everyone to know,

699
01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:35,440
this is a Catholic service or Catholic mass. Okay. And there are different segments of the mass.

700
01:22:35,440 --> 01:22:40,720
And this is what Jerry's referring to. Yes. In case of those who are not Catholic. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

701
01:22:40,720 --> 01:22:49,040
So at that point of the year, offertree and I was singing, Chris, I stood up while the rest are

702
01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:56,800
kneeling down. I didn't, I didn't realize what I was doing. Okay. I just knew I want to be with the

703
01:22:56,800 --> 01:23:04,800
Lord up there and tell me where I go wrong. Stand up and I sang. Okay. And the voice

704
01:23:07,120 --> 01:23:15,040
from there came one prison warden before. Yeah. Jerry, the Holy Spirit's within you.

705
01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:24,160
And so was the rest of them. And I just sang. Then you got your voice back. At that point.

706
01:23:24,160 --> 01:23:33,040
So it was quite miraculous. It is. Bless are you Lord God of all creation. Thanks to your goodness.

707
01:23:34,880 --> 01:23:44,480
I can imagine. I didn't want to deny that of Jesus. Yeah. I know he's up there. He has given me the

708
01:23:44,480 --> 01:23:50,160
lease of life. But this is what I love most. And you went back to singing after that. You went back

709
01:23:50,160 --> 01:23:55,120
to the Japanese guys. I went back home, Chris, opened the door, my sister said, you're talking.

710
01:23:56,320 --> 01:24:03,280
Okay. And my wife said, and my mom said, hey. Then I told myself, I go tonight to the club.

711
01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:10,560
The boys were saying, Jerry, don't stretch. You go back home. You take your rest first. We need you.

712
01:24:10,560 --> 01:24:21,280
17th of January, the opening of the new NTC club called the celebration. So I said, all right. So

713
01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:31,440
who was helping me? Dixie Ferdinand. You know, Mel's brother. Yeah. Gypsy. The band Gypsy.

714
01:24:31,440 --> 01:24:43,040
So this was one miraculous thing. So Robert Consencio, my writer and my publisher, Douglas said,

715
01:24:43,040 --> 01:24:51,600
Jerry, this has to be done. Put in the book. They call it the divine intervention. I said, all right.

716
01:24:51,600 --> 01:25:00,160
This is Jerry. This will be good. And to me it was good because the believers are non-believers. You

717
01:25:00,160 --> 01:25:07,600
better read it and try and understand. I'm not here to evangelize anyone, but telling you the

718
01:25:07,600 --> 01:25:13,920
experience, the journey that I went through when all, can you imagine my doctors had given me

719
01:25:13,920 --> 01:25:21,360
medication. I wouldn't want to go and tell them, look, I'm cured. But well, you know, your sons

720
01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:28,000
did you a favor. They told you about that. Oh yes, Robin and Jeremy did me a favor. And you went for

721
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:33,200
the healing mass. You were prayed over and all that. I mean, I'm Catholic, you know, and I can

722
01:25:33,200 --> 01:25:43,200
completely relate to what you're saying. Okay, everyone. Yeah, this is Jerry. This is a secular

723
01:25:43,200 --> 01:25:50,800
show, but it's his story and his story to tell. And I'm happy for you, man, that there was this

724
01:25:50,800 --> 01:25:57,040
divine intervention and you managed to get back to singing after that, right? Yeah. And life went on

725
01:25:57,040 --> 01:26:02,880
as goofy as it possibly could. Exactly. You know, this interview is a tribute to your incredible

726
01:26:02,880 --> 01:26:10,240
career. And on behalf of the Singaporeans that really care about our music, thank you so much,

727
01:26:10,240 --> 01:26:15,840
Jerry. And thank you also, please extend our thanks to the new faces, the boys in the new faces.

728
01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:24,320
From 52 years ago till today, we thank you guys, all of you who are part and parcel of the new faces.

729
01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:32,080
Yeah. These are guys. Yeah. Except Chris, you know, that, okay, the guy in the brown jacket,

730
01:26:32,080 --> 01:26:40,160
yeah, he's on wheelchair. Oh dear. Okay. And the guy standing right at the back, Joe has passed away.

731
01:26:40,160 --> 01:26:48,800
Okay. Elephantitis. The remaining three of us, the white is Amero, myself, and the yellow jacket is

732
01:26:48,800 --> 01:26:57,840
Junie. Okay. And the other latest inclusion is Amri and Salim. Okay. So we thank you and we thank

733
01:26:57,840 --> 01:27:03,680
the band and new faces for all those who are part and parcel of the new faces for the last 52 years.

734
01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:11,760
And this is to end the show, I'm going to ask you to maybe look into your camera right over there

735
01:27:11,760 --> 01:27:18,480
and say anything you'd like to say to your fans for the unwavering support over the past 52 years.

736
01:27:18,480 --> 01:27:24,560
Yes, Chris, thank you so much for giving this particular moment to say it. I'd like to thank

737
01:27:24,560 --> 01:27:30,720
all of you who are watching and listening to the show. I must tell you, without your people's

738
01:27:30,720 --> 01:27:38,000
support, I wouldn't have come this far. And well above that would be the love of the family. The

739
01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:44,560
family have been supporting me a lot, even at this age and this time, they're behind me. And I thank

740
01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:50,320
God. Thank you, Chris. My pleasure, sir. Thank you for being on the show. We're going to end this

741
01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:58,640
program, this particular episode, this our tribute to Jerry Fernandez, with a song, with a video

742
01:27:58,640 --> 01:28:04,080
that of the performance recently in Pick Kill of this. Wow. I love this particular number,

743
01:28:04,080 --> 01:28:09,280
by the way. That's why I picked the song vehicle. Enjoy this one until next time.

744
01:28:09,280 --> 01:28:21,040
We'll see you guys again soon. OK, bye bye.

745
01:28:39,840 --> 01:28:41,040
Wait, baby.

746
01:28:55,760 --> 01:28:57,040
Wait, I don't know.

747
01:28:57,040 --> 01:28:58,800
No, I love you.

748
01:29:07,760 --> 01:29:12,000
If you want to be a movie star, I take you to the Hollywood.

749
01:29:12,720 --> 01:29:16,880
You want to be just like you are. I think you really should.

750
01:29:16,880 --> 01:29:31,440
You know, I think you want to go. But now I'm sure you know that I love you. I need you. I want you.

751
01:29:31,440 --> 01:29:44,960
I have you, child. We got another, you know, I love you. You know, I do. I want guitar, brother.

752
01:30:01,600 --> 01:30:02,960
Oh

753
01:30:23,760 --> 01:30:26,640
Hey, hey, I'm a friendly stranger on the black sedan.

754
01:30:26,640 --> 01:30:28,640
Up inside the car

755
01:30:28,640 --> 01:30:31,640
Got beaches scanned, I'm a love of a man

756
01:30:31,640 --> 01:30:33,640
Can't get you then you're a star

757
01:30:33,640 --> 01:30:36,640
I'm a vagabond baby

758
01:30:36,640 --> 01:30:38,640
I'll take you anywhere you wanna go

759
01:30:38,640 --> 01:30:41,640
I'm a vagabond

760
01:30:41,640 --> 01:30:43,640
By now I'm sure you know

761
01:30:43,640 --> 01:30:46,640
That I love ya, I need ya

762
01:30:46,640 --> 01:30:49,640
Want ya, to have you child

763
01:30:49,640 --> 01:30:53,640
Great God, I never did know I loved you

764
01:30:53,640 --> 01:30:57,640
Hey, you know I do

765
01:31:01,640 --> 01:31:04,640
That I love ya, I need ya

766
01:31:04,640 --> 01:31:07,640
Want ya, to have you child

767
01:31:07,640 --> 01:31:21,640
Great God in heaven you know I love you

768
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Thanks for watching!