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Previously on the Chris Hansen conversation.

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It's not a belief.

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You just take a look at the history.

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Just understand if in occurrence,

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if there's only one occurrence,

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you can dismiss it.

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Two, three, four, five, six.

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Yeah, dismiss it.

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Several hundred thousand.

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Come on.

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We have to pay attention to what's happening.

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So basically, you don't believe,

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but you actually are certain then that we have been visited,

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have been visited.

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But I don't.

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They are here.

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I don't talk about it a lot.

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I know.

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Because I have to.

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Well, there is a fellow who is thinking along similar lines.

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Now coming out, I don't know why,

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he's being ostracized, he's being put down,

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he's being labeled a lunatic.

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Terrence Howard.

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Terrence Howard, yeah, the actor?

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The actor.

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Yeah.

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You talked about DNA, right?

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Has been working on these technologies for the longest time

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and a different form of mathematics,

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the one that we're working on,

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that forms a crystalline structure for metals

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in the shape of dodecahedrons,

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which is very interesting.

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Now, when you get into a dodecahedron shape

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for anything that can pull apart,

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then you begin to realize that if you have magnesium as its center

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instead of carbon,

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you'll be able to build devices that are not heard of on this planet.

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And that's probably the next level of quantum computing

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with working with neutrinos and working with these kind of crystalline arrays.

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Because it's a new form of technology.

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Because with quantum computers,

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they don't work the same way as black or white on and off switches.

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You know, we're talking in the area of maybe switches.

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I mean, you think about that.

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And so with...

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This is blowing my mind.

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My brain is going to turn into a mosh very soon.

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You combine it with AI technology, especially general AI.

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General AI is the next level of cognizance.

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And if we are to believe the rumors,

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and they're just rumors, I have no way to confirm them,

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that DARPA has already achieved that more than five, 10 years ago.

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Sentient computers, computers that are able to think for themselves.

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Oh, boy.

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That can learn and learn rapidly.

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Connected to the internet and understanding everything.

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You know, we're talking Terminator, you know, that Skynet thing and all that.

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Except without all of those other things to consider,

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imagine an AI system that's able to look at all of your data,

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especially around creating new devices.

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Imagine what it could build.

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Now, you sit there as a scientist, or I sit there,

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and I spend years in a coffee shop in Bulgaria, away from prying eyes.

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Why Bulgaria?

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Because A, Professor Lozanoff, I want to find the fellow who originated this

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super learning thing and accelerated learning technologies and all of that.

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And we worked together.

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Our, you know, one heater, that's all he needed was one or two heaters.

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And they're $30 Singapore to buy.

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They didn't, couldn't afford that.

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So we got 10 heaters for them.

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And then all the money I earned from the royalty of my books, Uncommon Sense,

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Metasecret, the movies, everything.

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I told the publisher, sent it to his foundation.

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So they moved him into a hotel in the middle of Slyven, the town.

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And he, for the rest of his life, which is about only a year and a half,

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remember he suffered a lot of strokes.

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He and I collaborated, worked and talked about many things.

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And he got angry with me several times because my ideas were outrageous for him as well.

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And I kept telling him it's a form of hypnosis.

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And he said, no, it's not.

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I said, okay, there's a state called waking hypnosis where you look like you're wide awake,

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but you're not.

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And a lot of people on stage are able to do this well.

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And that's the final level of master trainer stuff, right?

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Where you're able to mesmerize a whole bunch of people into thinking a certain thing.

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And you do it with language, Ericksonian language, neuro-linguistic,

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and all this other stuff.

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And so when Professor Lozanoff was in that place getting good food, getting clean sheets

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and clean clothes and everything for a long time, we discussed something about the human

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mind and its ability.

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And I told him that it was in effect limitless.

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And he says, yes, I agree with you.

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The human mind is limitless in its ability.

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What's to stop you now?

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What's to stop a whole bunch of Singaporeans coming together and working on these technologies

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and believing that we can actually make something happen like free energy?

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Because the consequence of my device flying and taking off under control and coming back

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safely is that we will now have energy.

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Don't point it up.

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Point the device sideways.

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It drives a turbine.

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Now, with free energy comes an ability to create, to turn seawater into fresh water.

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You know, the whole planet, what is it?

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98% of our water supply is seawater.

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The 2% is what we drink.

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Now, can you imagine an ability for every village on every coastline to be able to manufacture

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with zero cost energy?

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But you know, you guys like you could be stopped by a lot of...

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Well, that's why it's in a foundation and the foundation has...

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It's going to kill the oil and gas business, man.

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Well, I don't make a lot of noise.

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Now I do.

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Did.

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And I'm talking.

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But we have something called a dead man's trigger.

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Does that, do you know what that is?

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No.

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If I die, everything I have becomes public knowledge.

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For any reason.

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So on the topic of free energy.

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Yeah.

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So it sounds like a Nikola Tesla kind of thing, man.

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It is.

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I told you, we are taking a lot.

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Do you know where a lot of his patents are?

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They were seized.

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They were taken away.

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They were seized by the FBI after his death.

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Yeah, that's part of it.

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He died alone, right?

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In his apartment.

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That's part of it.

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Always killed.

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We're not sure.

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And the rest of it is in Croatia.

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Oh.

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And just off the border from.

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How did that happen?

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Well, that's where he's from.

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Oh, he's from, oh yeah.

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So he didn't stash it all in one place.

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No, it's in the museum over there in public view.

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Yeah, I'm surprised it's still there.

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I mean, if it's in a different language, of course, but what the hell, the patents.

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If I remember the story well,

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it was between him and Edison, right?

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And investors like Merrill Lynch decided to back Edison instead of Tesla because they

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felt that he could be making money and profits out of Edison's ideas.

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I don't know if those were the people.

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Mm hmm.

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Edison was a common thief.

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He just stole a lot of people's ideas and made into an American hero because he was

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American born.

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There's a race factor that comes into this as well.

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But the thing is, Westinghouse was the one who believed in Tesla, Westinghouse.

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And he funded the building of the, what we now know as the, the tourist resort, the Niagara

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Falls.

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The entire Niagara Falls Westinghouse power plant is there.

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And they use the power of the four, the, the.

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Hydrogenerators.

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To, to create electricity from the water falling.

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Hydroelectric power.

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In fact, you go there to the Niagara Falls, there's a certain park on the, on the right.

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You see Tesla's, a, a.

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Quote.

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Right there as well.

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And, and as the fellow who pioneered all of this.

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How he lost and how he didn't make a lot of money was, he had a contract that would have

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made him very, very rich with Westinghouse.

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But Westinghouse was complaining at that time because of some of the ventures that they

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were involved in that didn't have a lot of money.

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Said that he couldn't stay in business much longer or help Tesla.

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So Tesla in front of him, tore up the contract.

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That would have made him super rich and, and said, you don't have to pay me a dime for

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any other dynamos you create, you know, royalty programs and all of that.

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And so that you can continue to fund me.

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Of course, that didn't work out.

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And when Westinghouse did not continue funding him and he died.

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Always killed.

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We don't know which, but the point is all of his inventions and clues are on the internet.

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That's why I love the internet so much because you can find it in not just English

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search in other languages as well.

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You'll find discussions that he's had.

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You kind of the voice of Nikola Tesla and hear what he sounds like as well.

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And, and hear about what he's been doing.

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And, and hear about what his ideas are about learning.

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And he could increase learning capacity in it by, by infusing the classroom with certain

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copper wires in a certain configuration that would increase people's learning capability.

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Now, these are not new.

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They're being used all the time in radio.

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It's called Feng Shui.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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Mr. Feng and Mr. Shui got together and put it all together.

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But they, they call them, what did they call them?

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Now, now, radionics, I think, and bio resonance and a few other names.

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Some of it quackery, but you have to sift through what is real and what is not real.

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Right.

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That's the difficulty of this.

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Coming back to the last question, which I'm still trying to pursue.

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Terrence Howard.

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Yeah.

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I know.

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I mean, he's, he's got ostracized.

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I know that.

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And the way they did.

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Still being.

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I know.

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And, and every time they put out a video of this guy, it always is always like in some

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compromising part of his talk that makes him look like a quack.

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Yeah.

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So it's taken out of context.

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I know I'm aware, but dog, you were concerned about also being ostracized, is it?

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But that's the reason why you don't want to publicly say that.

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Yeah.

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These guys exist.

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ET.

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Is that your concern, doc?

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No.

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No, no.

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I, I don't have anything to protect.

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There's no real reputation.

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I've been spending the last 10 years working on becoming nobody.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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In Bulgaria and what better place?

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Nobody ever comes there at all.

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You might be surprised.

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I might come knocking on your door.

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My son lives there now, but I would sit in the coffee shop and once in a while, because

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my books are also in Bulgarian, a person would come by and they'll look, Mel Gill.

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I said, is that you?

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I said, no, it's not.

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You're having a dream right now.

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Keep walking.

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And then they think I'm joking, but they can come anyway.

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Why not say what you think and what you feel about this?

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For what?

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For the show.

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Thank you very much.

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No, I mean, I mean, really, no, when you, when you think about it, for what?

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So that a handful of people who cannot contribute to making this happen can believe you.

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Oh, great.

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I go to sleep at night.

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They can believe me.

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I'm only concerned with one thing, preserving my life to be able to take the technology

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to a level where it becomes reality and everybody can use it because I'm not, I'm patenting it

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in the European patents office, but for free general public license so everyone can use it.

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I don't want to, there's no money to be made in helping humanity push forward.

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I went to one of Singapore's richest billionaires.

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I won't mention he used to be a classmate.

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And I said, Hey, would you like to donate to my foundation to be able to do stuff?

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And this is several years back.

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And I told him roughly what we were doing.

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And he said, and then he wrote to me and he said, I cannot help you.

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I'm not going to give you $1.

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This man who writes millions of dollars to churches and, you know, donates them and all that.

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And I said, why?

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He said, because of your tagline, pushing humanity forward, the Dr. Mel Gill foundation.

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And I think humanity has been held back in terms of technology, in terms of what is possible

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for us to do, in terms of what is possible for us to imagine in terms of, you know,

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instead of searching for extraterrestrial life, let's find a way to communicate.

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And the communication cannot be all radio waves because these things communicate.

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And how do they do that with the power of thought?

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How do they do that?

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What is the power of thought?

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And what is thought?

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It's quantum entanglements, one atom for another across vast distances, billions of light years

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away, miles away, you can communicate with someone with something faster than light.

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Yeah.

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And how do you do that?

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And we're now delving into, DARPA is now delving into these kind of technical, the

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technical aspects are mind boggling to begin with because you need to create a resonant

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field there and here to be able to communicate.

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Right.

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Now, wait a minute.

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Sounds like a lot of psychics who told us how to do all that in the haphazard way.

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With incense and all of that.

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I just want to throw all that out.

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And so, so I nearly cried when this guy told me that not even one dollar.

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And I said, they said, so what will, you know, we're helping humanity, push humanity forward.

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The only thing that will push humanity forward is if the return of Jesus Christ and he'll

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does this and that.

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So I looked at him and I said, but in the meanwhile, while we're waiting, what shall

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we do?

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And of course he never talks to me after that.

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And so I, why would I want to convince someone that these realities exist when I'll just

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spend my time sitting over coffee or whiskey or something and saying, you know, hey, listen,

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listen, okay, have I convinced you?

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Yes.

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And they go back and live their little lives doing whatever they're doing.

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And here I'm giving up everything to be able to prove and to show proof of concept, you

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know, on a, on a craft that we will build, but not here.

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We will build it in Bulgaria because they have vast, I bought a large piece of land

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there to be able to take off and land.

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So do you think this craft is going to take off into space and travel into stellar travel?

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Mine.

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My craft?

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Yeah.

321
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No, my craft is just going to go 140, 180 kilometers up into space.

322
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Right.

323
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It's going to hover there for a little bit.

324
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Yeah.

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And then it's going to come logging everything down.

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Right.

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And with a bunch of people taking a look at what we're doing, land in the middle of this

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field that I have, uh, safely.

329
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And then later we'll take it up again.

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A few days later with livestock or something.

331
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Okay.

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And land.

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And incredible speeds.

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We see.

335
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We're not interested in the speeds yet.

336
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Okay.

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Once it shows that we can actually do this without, uh, hundreds and hundreds of people

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and hundreds and hundreds of tons of fuel, fuel, then the idea to build entire cities

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in space, which means we can take huge payloads into space.

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Now it's possible to build cities because girders, you know, steel and other, uh, don't

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have to be lighter now because space, there's no, there's no weight.

342
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There's no weight.

343
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So what if you could take all of this hundreds of tons of material into space straight away?

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And what if you could build over there?

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Because construction without gravity is a little bit different over there, even if you're

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creating artificial gravity.

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So I want to be able to make that possible for everybody to do that.

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But the thing that might stop the research and might, uh, restrict the research is that

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if you could go freely and somebody for the price of a Mercedes over here can build a

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similar thing, um, if they have the patents and everything else, then, um, wait a minute,

351
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we don't need passports.

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No restrictions anymore.

353
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What about a contraband?

354
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You know, what about all of those things?

355
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And what about, forget that for weapons, you know, so on and so forth.

356
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So those questions come up as, as I discuss with the Admiral and everybody, because they,

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for sure they are aware of my research.

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They have, my phones are tapped, you know, everywhere.

359
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So, uh, because they are aware of what I'm doing and it's, uh, so far an ability to be

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able to, for benign purposes, to be able to create electricity, limitless electricity

361
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for humanity, uh, to be able to move, you know, into space, uh, materials, large tons

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of materials, uh, to be able to, uh, finally build that, uh, space ladder.

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Everyone was talking about from earth to space, you know, those kind of things now become

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possible with this technology.

365
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It's not that hard.

366
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So, Don, in your time, in your lifetime, have you personally ever encountered anything in

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the sky that doesn't belong here?

368
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Yeah, uh, several places.

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My children grew up in a place called Croton on Hudson, New York, and, uh, just about 40,

370
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30 kilometers north is a place called, uh, Pinecrest.

371
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Is it called Pinecrest?

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I think it's called Pinecrest.

373
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Okay.

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Uh, just next to the New Jersey border.

375
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Okay.

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You get through it from a road called the Bear Mountain Road.

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And in Pinecrest, the highest incidence of UFO sightings in the whole of the United States.

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Now that was, we're talking in the early nineties, right?

379
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And so I'm living there and I'm seeing strange lights and I got my wife now, ex-wife, um,

380
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thank God, um, we, we, I can't do all this research with it.

381
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We sat there in the mattress and my kids were still young, two years, four years old.

382
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Yeah.

383
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And, uh, looked up at the sky and in Croton away from New York lights, about 45 miles.

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You can see everything and we're near what is called the Indian Point nuclear reactor.

385
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We're not far from it.

386
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So nuclear reactors tend to attract all these things.

387
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Yeah.

388
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Misalabesis as well.

389
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Yeah.

390
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Yeah.

391
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God knows why and we'll figure it out.

392
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But at the same time, we were starting to look at objects and say, what are you doing?

393
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I said, we're looking for UFOs.

394
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My kids are all having fun.

395
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Ha ha ha ha.

396
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And as we start to see, um, these things flying, and I said to my ex-wife, take a look at that,

397
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that light.

398
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Yeah.

399
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It's a, that's just a plane.

400
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Okay.

401
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Watch it.

402
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It's going this way.

403
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It's going that way.

404
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It's zigzagging.

405
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Right.

406
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That's not a plane.

407
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It's unusual patterns.

408
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What the heck is that?

409
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Yeah.

410
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You know, so we see that a lot and the last sighting that we saw pine, pine bush, sorry,

411
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it's so called pine bush.

412
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It just came to me.

413
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Uh, the last sighting I saw was Singapore.

414
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What?

415
00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:47,000
Okay.

416
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Yeah.

417
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And we're talking in 2000 and, uh, I think 2005 or later a little bit.

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Do you remember the whole country?

419
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The country was in a hoo-ha.

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My friend who was an engineer, we were, I had a home in, um, Salita air base, you know,

421
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before they broke it down and build everything.

422
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And, uh, we had a nice little house.

423
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We had a nice community there.

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We had a newsletter and everything that's all destroyed, uh, for progress.

425
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And, uh, so, um, we, he, he said, look in the sky, turn around.

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There was this big glowing object between the clouds and the sky.

427
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And it was so bright.

428
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The clouds were lit up from behind and the sky was lit up from behind.

429
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And it was moving in a trajectory that took it down to the city and, and right over the

430
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city between Singapore and Batam, it landed in the water.

431
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That's what the newspapers here recorded.

432
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And some, some scientists from some science center said, oh, it's a reflection of the

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moon as they saw the moon.

434
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That's not the moon.

435
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And here we know.

436
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So from a UFO became a USL.

437
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Yes.

438
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Yes.

439
00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:56,360
Okay.

440
00:20:56,360 --> 00:20:57,240
And you saw that.

441
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I didn't see it go down in the water, but I did see it across the sky and I went, oh,

442
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my God.

443
00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:03,960
How big was it?

444
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Hard to guess.

445
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But the estimate, if I looked at the sun and use that as a comparison, it was maybe about

446
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a quarter the size of the sun.

447
00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:15,320
Okay.

448
00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:16,920
And what color was it glowing?

449
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Green.

450
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And it was, and it was spinning.

451
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You could, you could see it was spinning very, very clearly.

452
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And apparently there's a lot of sightings here.

453
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Now, then I, I started to understand later that, you know, remember DARPA has a lab here

454
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in Singapore.

455
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So, you know, we're doing something that's attracting this.

456
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Are we sending out microwaves?

457
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Because the, the, the part that I was involved with the off base activity with SRI, the other

458
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one was called, I call it Neurophonics.

459
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I don't know what else to call it.

460
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Sending messages into New York City on microwaves, messages of aggression, messages of passivity.

461
00:21:59,400 --> 00:21:59,880
Yeah.

462
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Yeah.

463
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:05,400
We wanted to track the crime waves and see the correlation between entire crime waves

464
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and these messages that we were sending out.

465
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Yeah.

466
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And there were correlations with direct and damn near a hundred percent.

467
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Yeah.

468
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I read about that too.

469
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:14,440
Yes.

470
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I was involved with that.

471
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And my part in that was to come up with the suggestions from an NLP perspective,

472
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Ericksonian perspective to make them irresistible.

473
00:22:24,360 --> 00:22:33,480
Yeah. And so you, you can imagine we had at that time the ability to send in a directional

474
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fashion, microwaves embedded with messages into New York City so that they would bounce

475
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off craniums of people and they would feel it like sounds.

476
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:43,400
Right.

477
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And they would feel like something in inside of them telling them what to do.

478
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Yeah.

479
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So people were, you know, unaware of what's happening.

480
00:22:50,120 --> 00:22:52,840
And this is now perfected beyond belief.

481
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So you can influence anybody at any place.

482
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Yeah.

483
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But also at the same time, they, we had the technology at that time to

484
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directionalize sound waves.

485
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So in other words, you'd be sitting here, someone is sitting next to you and a third person

486
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and someone from maybe 400 yards, yards away.

487
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I don't know meters.

488
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400 homes, backyard of homes away.

489
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Okay.

490
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Fine.

491
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Yeah.

492
00:23:18,360 --> 00:23:18,600
Yeah.

493
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There you go.

494
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Would be able to send a message or sound to you.

495
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Yep.

496
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And that sound would impact you.

497
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,360
You'd hear it, but the person next to you won't.

498
00:23:28,360 --> 00:23:29,240
Oh, wow.

499
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:30,200
That's amazing.

500
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,360
And we still have this and I don't know why.

501
00:23:32,360 --> 00:23:34,200
When you say we, you're talking about who?

502
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,880
We meaning the earth, the people, we have all of this ability.

503
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:38,200
Right.

504
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,320
You look it up, directional sound waves.

505
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:41,800
Yeah.

506
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,680
You should be able to find a lot of literature on it.

507
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:44,920
Right.

508
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:51,720
So now there's a lot of, not just naysayers, how do you call the disinformation campaign

509
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:53,480
that's going on and people-

510
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:54,680
You are the disinformation.

511
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:55,880
Yeah, disinformation campaign.

512
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:56,760
Let's just call it that.

513
00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:03,560
It's hard, you know, in the long run, Chris, when you talk about this, right?

514
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,200
Which is what Dr. Steven Greer has been talking about.

515
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:06,440
Yeah.

516
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,880
He gave up an entire career as an emergency doctor.

517
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:10,200
Yeah.

518
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,440
He's got C-E5 going right now, right?

519
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:13,160
And see-

520
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:13,880
Have you met the man?

521
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:14,680
Yes.

522
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:15,320
What?

523
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:15,640
At all.

524
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:16,840
Several times at conventions.

525
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:17,480
Wow.

526
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:22,440
Only at conventions and not personally to discuss because they're very cagey about this.

527
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,800
And we're talking 10 years ago before I started anything.

528
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:31,400
And I decided to do it on my own because they were wary of people coming and doing stuff.

529
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:31,480
I don't blame them.

530
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,000
And yeah, you can't blame them.

531
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:39,880
They are talking about a disclosure that's happening probably this year, next year, but

532
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:46,840
with a massive disinformation campaign happening at the same time on the UAPs and everything else.

533
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:51,480
So I try to stay out of the limelight as much as possible.

534
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:59,560
And I try to see if I can find like-minded people that will come and work with me on the technology.

535
00:25:00,120 --> 00:25:04,360
I'm not interested in sitting down and talking about alien civilizations and how they make love

536
00:25:04,360 --> 00:25:08,120
without or with clothes and here and there and this and that, you know?

537
00:25:08,120 --> 00:25:09,880
Hey, look, shake hands.

538
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:10,760
This is how they make.

539
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:11,960
Oh, okay.

540
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:12,460
Yeah.

541
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:14,440
What do we do?

542
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:17,880
I'm not interested in that.

543
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:19,480
I'm just interested in the technology.

544
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,640
100% focused on the technology.

545
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:22,360
Okay.

546
00:25:22,360 --> 00:25:29,960
If we can utilize a lot of this technology to help humanity push forward, then we will not have

547
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:31,400
poverty.

548
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:37,080
But don't you think that there have been down alien crafts

549
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:43,160
that's been re-engineered or reversed engineered and they've seen these technologies,

550
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,560
you know, people like Skunk Works, etc., etc.

551
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:45,800
Yeah.

552
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:46,280
Right.

553
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:52,760
And the DOD, the DIA, they come together, they reverse engineered, isn't it?

554
00:25:52,760 --> 00:26:02,120
So if, allegedly, there are down crafts around the world, they would have used or discovered,

555
00:26:02,120 --> 00:26:08,840
for example, how, you know, people have said the skin of these crafts, these non-terrestrial crafts,

556
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:10,920
Seamless.

557
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:11,720
Seamless, man.

558
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,360
No nuts, no bolts, no welding, nothing.

559
00:26:14,360 --> 00:26:16,120
But the ones that we made are not.

560
00:26:16,120 --> 00:26:16,840
Yeah, exactly.

561
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:17,000
Yeah.

562
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:22,200
So like the triangular ones that you can see, you see the ones that's got plates and screws

563
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,920
and rivers, you know, that's man-made.

564
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:25,420
Yeah.

565
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,920
Because a lot of superconducting fluid is needed for that.

566
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:38,440
Yeah, but I mean, the technology, if it's been reverse engineered, I think where your craft

567
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:42,680
is concerned, I mean, wouldn't it pay dividends for you to get to know some people

568
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:47,960
where you can also have more advancement on what you want to develop?

569
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:52,600
I have two or three people working on different sites.

570
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:53,640
Now we talking.

571
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:59,960
They are not your average scientists.

572
00:26:59,960 --> 00:27:03,560
They are working at other quote unquote regular jobs.

573
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:11,240
Some are farmers actually, but with very powerful ability to build devices and what have you.

574
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:20,680
One with the, we call it super unity device to create electricity.

575
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,760
It works, but on a small scale.

576
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,440
Not yet for the whole house.

577
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:28,920
And the minute we do that, then we can start to say, okay, let's take it forward.

578
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:34,200
But then a lot of people have unreal ideas about the fact that they can earn millions

579
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:35,320
and billions from this.

580
00:27:36,120 --> 00:27:37,160
That's not the point.

581
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:38,760
And I try to avoid those people as well.

582
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,560
And I understand where they're from because they put their whole life in there.

583
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:49,080
But if you want to understand what I'm doing and the technology, it's very similar to

584
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:54,840
T Townsend Brown, the Brown effect.

585
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,160
I look like an absolute new right now.

586
00:27:59,160 --> 00:27:59,640
I know.

587
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:00,600
No, no, no.

588
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:01,320
Look it up.

589
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:02,360
School me, school me, please.

590
00:28:02,360 --> 00:28:02,840
Look it up.

591
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:09,720
T Townsend Brown created this, the Bifield Brown effect is where-

592
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:10,680
What the fuck is that?

593
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,040
The Bifield Brown effect.

594
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:12,600
Look it up.

595
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:13,160
Look it up.

596
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:14,360
It's on the internet.

597
00:28:14,360 --> 00:28:19,000
And if your viewers and listeners are listening to this, the Bifield Brown effect is where-

598
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:29,160
Bifield Brown effect uses high density magnetic fields in conjunction with high voltage electricity

599
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:37,960
to be able to create this lift from plates that are very much looking like craft, this

600
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:38,840
UFO craft.

601
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:43,480
And they fly, but they fly uncontrollably.

602
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:48,920
There's no control until somebody discovered that radio waves control

603
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:54,520
them and directed radio waves can decide the steering on the craft as well.

604
00:28:55,080 --> 00:29:00,200
That's why in the recent years, recent meaning last 30, 40 years since Roswell,

605
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,800
we've been able to, we say they fell from the sky.

606
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:04,600
I mean, come on.

607
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,480
No, they were shot down using radio waves.

608
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,880
By using these radio waves.

609
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:10,600
But when people-

610
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:11,240
Directed.

611
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:18,760
But Lazarus did say that these crafts fly because the pilots of these crafts use their

612
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,760
consciousness to fly.

613
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:28,040
Consciousness assisted technology is now going to be, it's not yet, but it is going to be

614
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:28,600
the rage.

615
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:33,960
And if you want to study anything, study that and see how that works.

616
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:42,680
And if you can somehow mold your thinking into understanding that there is a lot you

617
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:47,880
don't understand in terms of what you've learned in physics and mathematics, then you begin

618
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:52,680
to open yourself to the idea that we need to revisit what we were told is real.

619
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:59,960
And some people are talking about the fact that we live in a simulation of one kind or

620
00:29:59,960 --> 00:30:00,840
another.

621
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:01,800
The matrix.

622
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:08,360
Well, to be able to create that simulation because somebody had to, is a vast technology

623
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:09,080
we don't have.

624
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:10,520
Absolutely vast.

625
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:11,000
We don't.

626
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,880
So we are now in what you know as your house.

627
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:16,920
Right?

628
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:17,720
Yeah.

629
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:27,000
And you, after this, will go have a cup of coffee, have a smoke, have a beer, make love

630
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:27,320
to you.

631
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:28,840
Okay.

632
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:29,400
Okay.

633
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:29,880
Whoever.

634
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:30,760
I get the picture.

635
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:31,240
Yeah.

636
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:35,560
You are living a life here in Singapore.

637
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:35,800
Yeah.

638
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:43,960
What if you really knew that this is not life, that there is much more than this, that there's

639
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:51,480
this whole collective called humanity that together can take off from this earth so that

640
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:56,200
we are an interstellar species to be able to, what Musk is doing.

641
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,280
I mean, my God, this guy is not human.

642
00:30:58,920 --> 00:30:59,400
The fact that-

643
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:00,600
Doesn't look human either.

644
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,960
The way, that's what Amber Heard said.

645
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,760
But anyway, she was referring to something else though.

646
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:10,600
And she was measuring in centimeters.

647
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:20,440
So when you start to think that your life, your mundane life, live, work at a job, do

648
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:25,400
something, da, da, da, da, da, you know, you said you were teaching this stuff about voice

649
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:25,960
and stuff.

650
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:26,200
Yeah.

651
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:26,840
Yeah.

652
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:27,560
Great.

653
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,080
You will make so much money from this.

654
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,120
It's not funny because everybody want to sound like you.

655
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:33,240
You have a great voice.

656
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:33,560
Thank you.

657
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:38,600
A very resonant vibrato sort of thing, you know?

658
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:44,600
And you have the confidence with it, except that if you had more of an attitude-

659
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:45,240
Okay.

660
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,880
More of an attitude.

661
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:52,200
I'm teaching you because you're too humble in the way you're doing things.

662
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:52,600
Yeah.

663
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:53,000
Okay.

664
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:53,480
Yeah.

665
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:58,840
If you had a little bit more of an attitude, I think you could make a lot of people want

666
00:31:58,840 --> 00:31:59,880
to attend your program.

667
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:01,400
And what do you charge?

668
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,000
Do we talk about what you charge?

669
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,600
No, I don't charge anything.

670
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:05,400
What?

671
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:06,120
Yeah.

672
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:07,080
How many days is it?

673
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:08,680
What do you mean for my course?

674
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:09,080
Your course.

675
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:09,560
Oh, my course.

676
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:10,040
Of course I do.

677
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:12,600
Can we talk about it?

678
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:13,000
No.

679
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,600
No, let's not talk about the charges then.

680
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:15,400
Yeah, if we don't.

681
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:16,440
I don't come cheap.

682
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:19,480
That's what she said in Gala.

683
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:22,040
No, I do not come cheap.

684
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:23,240
I don't come cheap, too, she said.

685
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:24,120
I don't come cheap.

686
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:24,440
Yeah.

687
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:24,600
Okay.

688
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:25,640
Neither do you.

689
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,160
You don't come cheap either.

690
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:27,880
I know that.

691
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:28,600
I, yeah.

692
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:29,560
Come on.

693
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:30,360
I'm expensive.

694
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:32,120
But you know something.

695
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,920
You're the second guy that told me this, that told me that I'm too

696
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:37,640
humble.

697
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:37,960
Yeah.

698
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:39,080
Or too nice.

699
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:40,760
Too self-effacing.

700
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:41,560
Self-effacing.

701
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:42,440
Yeah, a little bit.

702
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:42,840
A little bit.

703
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:43,320
Okay.

704
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,760
You see, when I, sorry, we're off the topic now.

705
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:47,880
No, no, it's fine.

706
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:48,200
It's cool.

707
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:49,400
Let's talk about the personality.

708
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:50,520
It's a podcast, man.

709
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:50,920
Go ahead.

710
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:58,200
Yeah, I look at you and you are this amazing larger-than-life character.

711
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,360
I heard you sing that one time on that island somewhere.

712
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:03,560
I don't know where he had that seminar.

713
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:05,080
I can't remember which island either.

714
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:06,280
I do so many seminars.

715
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,280
I have no idea where I am sometimes.

716
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:09,160
I wake up in the morning.

717
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,000
Part of the world that I am in and I have no idea.

718
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:18,360
But in the last 10 years, I can tell you exactly where I am because I kind of gave up all that.

719
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:18,680
Okay.

720
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:19,320
For a while.

721
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:19,820
Okay.

722
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:30,760
But you have this presence, but you also at the same time need to intensify that presence.

723
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,160
And your charisma is unmistakable.

724
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:40,120
And you can multiply it a hundred times with just say, for instance, like put your,

725
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,440
don't expand, just put your hands together a little bit on top in front of you.

726
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:50,440
Just look at me and just, you know how you people frown.

727
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:50,760
Yeah.

728
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:54,440
I want you to frown and then open your eyes while frowning.

729
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:55,880
Okay.

730
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:56,200
Okay.

731
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:56,840
Can you do that?

732
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:57,000
Yeah.

733
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:57,640
Look at that.

734
00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,560
This is a famous Henson frown, by the way.

735
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:00,840
Do I get one eyebrow?

736
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:01,800
Trade market.

737
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:02,300
Yeah.

738
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:07,800
So, so when you do that, it's a different picture that you take also at the same time.

739
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:08,360
Okay.

740
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:15,240
So I'm not asking you to be not friendly because you are definitely, but become a little bit

741
00:34:15,240 --> 00:34:19,800
unapproachable to the point where people have to almost ask permission to be in your presence.

742
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:20,600
You know what I mean?

743
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:21,400
I know what you mean.

744
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:25,960
Let me, if I'm not trying to find, I'm not trying to defend myself here, but I would just say.

745
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:26,760
Sounds like you are.

746
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,720
No, no, I'm not going to because I'm going to give you a fact.

747
00:34:29,720 --> 00:34:30,520
I'm going to give you facts.

748
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:31,020
Sorry.

749
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:37,480
Seven out of 10 of my guests come up, come to the show with a lot of trepidation because they know,

750
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:42,120
they feel like I am going to go for the jugular.

751
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:43,480
Okay.

752
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:44,120
Juggular.

753
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:44,680
Yeah.

754
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,600
Basically, I'm going to dig a lot of things.

755
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,120
You went for the balls with my case.

756
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:48,680
Oh yeah.

757
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:49,240
I know.

758
00:34:49,240 --> 00:34:51,640
Anyway, balls and jugglers aside.

759
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:52,600
Okay.

760
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:56,360
I've also had a lot of times where I've had to go to the gym and I've had to go to the gym

761
00:34:56,360 --> 00:35:00,680
with a lot of people, notable people who have said to me, Chris, I've told you stuff.

762
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,880
I've not told anyone in hundreds of interviews I've been to.

763
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:05,240
Same here.

764
00:35:05,240 --> 00:35:06,920
And the reason for that happens.

765
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:08,920
You know, it's the first time I'm talking about any of this stuff.

766
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:09,880
Oh, great.

767
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,360
Except for one or two people that I think.

768
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:13,560
It's because I'm a nice guy.

769
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:14,920
No, no.

770
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,960
I think it's about time.

771
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:21,320
For you to talk.

772
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:21,960
Yeah.

773
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:23,960
And you got a nice guy in front of you.

774
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:25,160
That's the reason why you can talk.

775
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,200
Oh, I see.

776
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,120
You've made it possible.

777
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:30,920
Of course.

778
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:31,800
I always do.

779
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:33,480
Doc.

780
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:34,040
Rapport.

781
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:34,680
In case you don't.

782
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:35,160
Yeah.

783
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:35,480
Doc.

784
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,720
I've said this a few times, a few people on my show, a few episodes.

785
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:44,120
You might not know this, but I'm master clinical certified hypnotherapist.

786
00:35:45,240 --> 00:35:45,800
So yeah.

787
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:47,080
Eric Sonia Niemeyer.

788
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:47,640
I know all that.

789
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,160
And I don't deliberately go out there and do this.

790
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:51,800
Where did you learn?

791
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:54,600
Just curious.

792
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:55,480
Dr. George Bien.

793
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:58,680
I brought him to Singapore.

794
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,240
You know, I found him where I found him in New York City.

795
00:36:03,240 --> 00:36:03,640
Yeah.

796
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,480
It was charging 45 bucks.

797
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:05,880
Really?

798
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:07,400
For doing what he was doing in New York.

799
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,120
I said, George, you are too talented for this.

800
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,120
You want to come to Singapore and find out more?

801
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,800
I did a preview seminar for him after I got certified.

802
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:16,680
Right, right, right.

803
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,040
That's a story for another day.

804
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:18,520
Yeah.

805
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:19,720
I don't work for him.

806
00:36:19,720 --> 00:36:21,400
So you're the second guy to tell me this.

807
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:21,960
Yeah.

808
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:23,240
For your second guy to tell me this.

809
00:36:23,240 --> 00:36:25,000
And it's been what?

810
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:25,720
Three seasons.

811
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,680
And I'm now, no, this is four seasons now with you.

812
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:29,800
It's four seasons.

813
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,400
So all the while.

814
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:32,040
This program?

815
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:32,280
Yeah.

816
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:33,000
This particular episode.

817
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:34,280
A season is how many months?

818
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:36,040
Not months.

819
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:40,200
Season would be, okay, 14, 15 episodes.

820
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,440
And we fill up for about four or five months.

821
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:43,000
Okay.

822
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:43,560
Okay.

823
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:47,480
So four seasons have come by and coming gone.

824
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,280
We're now in the midst of season four anyway.

825
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:54,840
And before that I had another podcast I was on, but it wasn't mine.

826
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:56,360
It belonged to another production company.

827
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:02,760
And I've had all the people that I've had on my show, except for you and the other guy,

828
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:06,600
Joe Augustine, who told me, Chris, you're just too nice.

829
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:08,520
You're edgy.

830
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,120
Yeah, but I want people to talk.

831
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,760
And I really want people to tell me things, you know?

832
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,960
And I really rather be non-intimidating.

833
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:22,120
You know, let me ask you a question.

834
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:22,760
Yeah.

835
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:24,120
Do you find me intimidating?

836
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:24,760
No.

837
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:25,640
Not at all.

838
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:26,140
A little.

839
00:37:26,140 --> 00:37:28,600
A little because of reputation.

840
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:29,160
Okay.

841
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,440
That's because I know you by reputation as well from before.

842
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:32,680
Right.

843
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:33,080
Yeah.

844
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:33,580
Right.

845
00:37:35,240 --> 00:37:37,400
People should know you from reputation as well.

846
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:38,040
Number one.

847
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:38,440
Yeah.

848
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:45,640
And number two, when you meet me, you begin to realize, wait a minute, this guy is actually very nice.

849
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,040
But there is a serious side to him.

850
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:51,720
And so you don't want to make it all nice.

851
00:37:51,720 --> 00:37:59,240
You want to allow the niceness to be able to create the rapport for them to open up and then get serious with the questions.

852
00:37:59,240 --> 00:38:00,840
You know, it's a little bit different.

853
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:01,640
It's a balance.

854
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:02,120
Sure, dog.

855
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:03,240
And it's always dynamic.

856
00:38:03,240 --> 00:38:04,280
It's always moving.

857
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:04,840
Sure.

858
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:08,600
And trust me, everybody will want to be part of that whole thing.

859
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:13,880
And you, the point of what I'm saying is, and I got distracted, sorry.

860
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,000
Is that from that program, you can make a lot of money.

861
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:21,480
And what I was trying to tell people to do, become a trainer.

862
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:22,040
Okay.

863
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:32,120
Which is all these foreigners coming in, white people, you know, I won't mention them because they are here currently and coming currently.

864
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:37,720
They have, there's some racial archetype in people's Asians head.

865
00:38:37,720 --> 00:38:38,120
Yeah.

866
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:39,960
Pinkerton syndrome, man.

867
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:44,520
No, the reality is they can't get jobs.

868
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:45,400
They cannot get the same things.

869
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,440
And there's a reason why the fuck they come here.

870
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:53,160
And they come here because these stupid Asian people are paying so much money to listen to these clowns.

871
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:53,720
I know.

872
00:38:53,720 --> 00:38:55,880
And then here's the tough part.

873
00:38:55,880 --> 00:39:03,320
The people don't realize the countries, the country and cities that I come from, New York, Chicago, Seattle, LA.

874
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:04,760
They want to listen to the Asians.

875
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:12,040
They are next to the newspaper stands, you know, are these little stands called the learning annex.

876
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:12,440
Okay.

877
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:21,400
Now the learning annex is the one that, what's his name, Kiyosaki owed $35 million to and defaulted by closing his company and didn't pay them.

878
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,440
They are livid because they made him who he was.

879
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:25,000
Okay.

880
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:26,600
Rich dad, poor mom.

881
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:27,640
Rich dad, poor dad.

882
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:29,320
I have no idea how.

883
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,480
The point is they made him who he was.

884
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:32,600
Cash flow quadrant.

885
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:40,920
And these people, Kiyosaki, Robbins and all these other people were charging like 45 bucks, 50 bucks for one session in the night.

886
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:42,680
Now this is 20, 30 years ago.

887
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:45,240
I didn't know while I was there, 40 years ago.

888
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:49,640
And then they come here and all of a sudden realize, wait a minute.

889
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:55,320
Somebody was teaching money mind intensive.

890
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,520
Whatever you call that thing, monkey mind, whatever it was.

891
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:02,760
The point was they were not making a lot of money back where they were.

892
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,480
And not a lot of people were paying a lot of money too.

893
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:06,120
Right.

894
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:18,200
But over here, suddenly people were paying thousands of dollars and you got massive numbers of people and you spew a lot of stuff that's useful, not useful and so on and so forth.

895
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,440
And it becomes this.

896
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:30,280
And now if you're a trainer, let's say you're an Asian trainer, you charge for a presentation class, let's say one day.

897
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:30,520
Right.

898
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:32,280
Nine to five.

899
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,680
And let's say you charge a hundred bucks.

900
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,520
That's cheap, very cheap.

901
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,360
And that's make it U.S.

902
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:39,800
So it's easier to calculate.

903
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:45,080
And you have easily a hundred people, 200 people.

904
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:45,800
How many people?

905
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:46,920
I have.

906
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:47,640
At that price.

907
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,080
My classes is one to one.

908
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:50,280
Oh, okay.

909
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:51,000
And it's a lot more.

910
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:51,640
Consultation.

911
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,080
It's a lot more than that.

912
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:53,480
Coaching.

913
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:53,960
Coaching.

914
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:54,680
Okay, good.

915
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,720
But I'm talking about becoming a trainer.

916
00:40:57,720 --> 00:41:01,560
So let's say you have a hundred people at a hundred bucks.

917
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:03,320
How much is that?

918
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:03,720
I know.

919
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:04,680
But.

920
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:06,600
That's $10,000.

921
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:06,840
Yeah.

922
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,560
But in one weekend, no job pays you that.

923
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:10,760
Become trainers.

924
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:11,320
I know.

925
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:17,880
But you know these option people that teaches you how to make billions making options but charge $5,000 for their courses?

926
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:19,960
Well, guess how they're making their money.

927
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:20,920
I'm aware, Doc.

928
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:21,420
Yeah.

929
00:41:21,720 --> 00:41:22,200
I'm aware.

930
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:23,560
So become a teacher.

931
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:24,440
You'll be surprised.

932
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:24,680
Yeah.

933
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:28,440
But my classes, I enjoy doing the one to ones.

934
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:30,680
I don't come cheap.

935
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:31,400
I really don't.

936
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:36,120
So then again, that's also the issue because it doesn't come cheap.

937
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,160
But it is one to one.

938
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:40,840
And I prefer it that way.

939
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,160
And I do get people going somehow.

940
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:45,560
They get, they go places, you know.

941
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:47,480
Which is great.

942
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:47,800
Yeah.

943
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,440
But anyway, you know, a lot of this chunk we got to cut.

944
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:51,000
You don't know it.

945
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:51,960
You know that, right?

946
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:52,120
No.

947
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:56,360
At some point, you're going to be, you're going to be exhausted doing all this.

948
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:57,240
Yeah, I know.

949
00:41:57,240 --> 00:41:58,040
Save the money.

950
00:41:58,840 --> 00:41:59,640
Make all of that.

951
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:01,000
And guess what?

952
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:08,440
You'll be able to enter into a different dimension where you are now working for a greater cause.

953
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,880
Well, Doc, let me tell you what I really, really love.

954
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:14,040
Right here, right now.

955
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:14,200
This.

956
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:14,600
Okay.

957
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:14,840
Yes.

958
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:15,640
This is what I love.

959
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:16,680
Wow.

960
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:17,560
This is my dream.

961
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:17,960
Cool.

962
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:18,840
This is what I'm doing.

963
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:20,760
And I love this.

964
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:21,720
I can feel it.

965
00:42:21,720 --> 00:42:22,040
Yeah.

966
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:23,160
I love this very much.

967
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:24,520
I love your studio.

968
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:25,640
Thanks, man.

969
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:26,840
I love your house.

970
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:28,120
Thanks very much, man.

971
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:29,320
The house is really nice.

972
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:32,120
It's a good vibe.

973
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:33,240
I don't want to leave.

974
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:36,200
We're vibing here.

975
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:36,680
Yeah.

976
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:37,400
We're vibing here.

977
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:37,880
Yeah.

978
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:44,200
So, Doc, you know, you heard about this thing about, you talked about resonance frequency.

979
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:48,920
I've been talking about it so often on this program in this series.

980
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:55,320
The last time for this season, the last time we spoke about aliens and stuff was with my friend Bong.

981
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,040
And we were talking about Bigfoot.

982
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,320
And both of you were sharing a Bong?

983
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:01,720
No, no, no.

984
00:43:01,720 --> 00:43:02,520
His name is Bong.

985
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:03,080
Oh, okay.

986
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:05,000
Unfortunately.

987
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:06,600
Okay.

988
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,360
Never looked at it that way, but thank you so much.

989
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:08,600
Okay.

990
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,760
The next time I say, Bong, can I smoke you?

991
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:11,260
Yeah.

992
00:43:11,260 --> 00:43:12,460
I thought she was going to say.

993
00:43:13,900 --> 00:43:15,420
And we were talking about Bigfoot.

994
00:43:15,420 --> 00:43:22,060
And the story about Bigfoot is that it has this growl that paralyzes you.

995
00:43:22,060 --> 00:43:23,420
It's a low frequency thing.

996
00:43:24,460 --> 00:43:32,140
And then the first episode for the last season, I had this wonderful person here, Alice Shirley Tay.

997
00:43:32,140 --> 00:43:35,020
And she is into this wellness thing.

998
00:43:35,020 --> 00:43:37,340
And she brought her singing bowls, right?

999
00:43:37,340 --> 00:43:41,580
And she had one that gives you the higher frequency, the higher note.

1000
00:43:41,580 --> 00:43:43,340
And the other one at the lower frequency.

1001
00:43:43,340 --> 00:43:46,940
And when she hit that one at the lower frequency, freaked me out.

1002
00:43:47,500 --> 00:43:49,420
I felt that there was something behind me.

1003
00:43:49,980 --> 00:43:50,700
I didn't like it.

1004
00:43:51,420 --> 00:43:53,660
And then the Bigfoot thing came about.

1005
00:43:53,660 --> 00:43:55,420
And then we realized that people get…

1006
00:43:55,420 --> 00:43:59,260
They get paralyzed by fear when they hear that little growl.

1007
00:43:59,260 --> 00:44:03,820
The only other animal that does this is a…

1008
00:44:03,820 --> 00:44:04,700
It's a tiger.

1009
00:44:04,700 --> 00:44:05,340
Tiger.

1010
00:44:05,340 --> 00:44:05,740
Right?

1011
00:44:05,740 --> 00:44:09,340
And Bigfoot apparently releases the same harmonics.

1012
00:44:11,260 --> 00:44:12,700
And it paralyzes people.

1013
00:44:12,700 --> 00:44:13,660
Can you recreate it?

1014
00:44:14,380 --> 00:44:15,740
Oh man, I don't know, man.

1015
00:44:15,740 --> 00:44:16,300
Try, try.

1016
00:44:17,100 --> 00:44:17,660
I can't.

1017
00:44:17,660 --> 00:44:18,620
It's basically…

1018
00:44:18,620 --> 00:44:19,580
Don't call yourself names.

1019
00:44:19,580 --> 00:44:20,080
It's…

1020
00:44:22,140 --> 00:44:22,860
Fuck you, man.

1021
00:44:24,380 --> 00:44:27,900
It's a harmonics that you can't really hear in the human ear.

1022
00:44:28,860 --> 00:44:29,820
It's at that level.

1023
00:44:30,620 --> 00:44:31,500
What's the word for it?

1024
00:44:31,500 --> 00:44:32,700
There's a term for it.

1025
00:44:32,700 --> 00:44:35,980
Something harmonics.

1026
00:44:35,980 --> 00:44:36,540
No, no, no.

1027
00:44:36,540 --> 00:44:37,580
You really can't hear it.

1028
00:44:37,580 --> 00:44:38,220
Can't hear it.

1029
00:44:38,220 --> 00:44:39,100
You can't hear it.

1030
00:44:39,100 --> 00:44:40,060
Can't hear it.

1031
00:44:40,060 --> 00:44:47,500
And then I discovered a couple of days ago that the spacecraft that people witness,

1032
00:44:48,220 --> 00:44:50,140
usually the silent, they can't hear a thing.

1033
00:44:50,700 --> 00:44:51,900
But sometimes you do.

1034
00:44:51,900 --> 00:44:53,100
You hear hum.

1035
00:44:53,100 --> 00:44:53,820
A hum.

1036
00:44:53,820 --> 00:44:54,060
Yeah.

1037
00:44:54,060 --> 00:44:55,820
And the hum at intervals, right?

1038
00:44:56,780 --> 00:44:58,780
So as it's slowing down…

1039
00:44:58,780 --> 00:44:59,820
Oh, the other sighting.

1040
00:44:59,820 --> 00:45:00,380
Yes.

1041
00:45:00,380 --> 00:45:01,180
Ask me about it.

1042
00:45:01,180 --> 00:45:01,740
Okay.

1043
00:45:01,740 --> 00:45:02,460
Varna.

1044
00:45:02,460 --> 00:45:03,900
And it's a D1 sharp.

1045
00:45:04,460 --> 00:45:09,100
The key to the hum is the key D1 sharp.

1046
00:45:09,100 --> 00:45:09,980
I didn't know that.

1047
00:45:09,980 --> 00:45:10,380
Okay.

1048
00:45:10,380 --> 00:45:13,180
So it's all about these frequencies, man.

1049
00:45:13,180 --> 00:45:15,180
The hums, the resonance, the…

1050
00:45:15,740 --> 00:45:18,380
You know, all the harmonics that come into play.

1051
00:45:19,020 --> 00:45:20,060
I think it's…

1052
00:45:20,860 --> 00:45:29,100
A lot of these things that it's got to do with controlling free energy to keep it in control.

1053
00:45:29,100 --> 00:45:32,300
It's more about sound than anything else.

1054
00:45:33,660 --> 00:45:37,900
A lot of what we're working on is an offshoot of cymatics.

1055
00:45:37,900 --> 00:45:39,340
Are you familiar with cymatics?

1056
00:45:39,340 --> 00:45:39,980
No.

1057
00:45:39,980 --> 00:45:40,940
C-Y.

1058
00:45:40,940 --> 00:45:41,740
C-Y?

1059
00:45:41,740 --> 00:45:43,820
M-A-T-I-C-S.

1060
00:45:43,820 --> 00:45:44,460
Okay.

1061
00:45:44,460 --> 00:45:48,060
Cymatics is the science of sound and resonance.

1062
00:45:48,060 --> 00:45:48,620
Okay.

1063
00:45:48,620 --> 00:45:53,580
A German scientist, long time ago, had a big brass plate, threw some sand on it,

1064
00:45:54,060 --> 00:45:57,500
sent some sounds across the plates and they start to form…

1065
00:45:57,500 --> 00:45:58,140
Patterns.

1066
00:45:58,140 --> 00:45:58,700
Patterns.

1067
00:45:58,700 --> 00:45:59,340
Patterns.

1068
00:45:59,340 --> 00:45:59,660
Yeah.

1069
00:45:59,660 --> 00:46:05,820
And one of the most intriguing patterns will form with a very different harmonic

1070
00:46:07,740 --> 00:46:13,340
than what we knew existed and it involved something called the flower of life formation.

1071
00:46:13,340 --> 00:46:13,980
Right.

1072
00:46:13,980 --> 00:46:21,900
And we found that we, meaning me, myself, and I found that when you start to utilize

1073
00:46:21,900 --> 00:46:27,980
that harmonic in anything you did, especially in my Neurophonic tapes and series, and I used

1074
00:46:27,980 --> 00:46:33,420
to sell all these things, I stopped because I knew that there was much more and people

1075
00:46:33,420 --> 00:46:36,780
were being helped by all my tapes and everything that I sent out there.

1076
00:46:36,780 --> 00:46:40,780
Five in particular to raise genius, to find your soul mate.

1077
00:46:40,780 --> 00:46:42,460
Like Stephen helping stuff.

1078
00:46:42,460 --> 00:46:43,500
Very much so.

1079
00:46:43,500 --> 00:46:47,660
And Stephen and I have met a lot because we share something in common music.

1080
00:46:47,660 --> 00:46:48,140
Yeah.

1081
00:46:48,140 --> 00:46:51,580
And who was the other fellow that the barefoot musician is?

1082
00:46:51,580 --> 00:46:54,300
Well, I heard George Winston.

1083
00:46:54,300 --> 00:46:54,460
Okay.

1084
00:46:54,460 --> 00:46:56,220
Have you heard of George Winston stuff?

1085
00:46:56,220 --> 00:47:02,140
Way back in 79 when I heard him, it was something that captivated me in the story

1086
00:47:03,260 --> 00:47:04,140
and I bought it.

1087
00:47:04,140 --> 00:47:08,620
Everything he had, George Winston, I think the album is called Autumn.

1088
00:47:09,180 --> 00:47:14,140
Go get it, listen to it, and I'm telling you, you sit transfixed and you start crying and

1089
00:47:14,140 --> 00:47:16,620
don't know why you're crying, you just cry.

1090
00:47:16,620 --> 00:47:17,020
Okay.

1091
00:47:17,020 --> 00:47:18,220
And that brought out a lot.

1092
00:47:18,220 --> 00:47:24,060
And then I began to use a lot of these frequencies with therapy, especially primal therapy.

1093
00:47:24,060 --> 00:47:29,740
And that was my specialty at that time in the early 80s and what have you, because Stephen

1094
00:47:29,740 --> 00:47:32,540
Levinson was the one that trained me into all of this.

1095
00:47:32,540 --> 00:47:37,580
And then I was starting to learn with Arthur Jenoff about primal therapy in California.

1096
00:47:37,580 --> 00:47:43,100
Arthur is dead now, but he was my quote unquote teacher at that time in the techniques that

1097
00:47:43,100 --> 00:47:43,740
he was using.

1098
00:47:43,740 --> 00:47:44,140
Right.

1099
00:47:44,140 --> 00:47:44,300
Wow.

1100
00:47:44,300 --> 00:47:47,100
A lot of this involved sounds.

1101
00:47:47,100 --> 00:47:47,500
Okay.

1102
00:47:47,500 --> 00:47:51,980
And at that time they used music, not realizing that it's sound.

1103
00:47:51,980 --> 00:47:55,420
Stephen Halpin was the leader in all of this at that time.

1104
00:47:55,420 --> 00:47:57,260
And so were a slew of other people.

1105
00:47:57,980 --> 00:48:00,300
They were a blue ocean strategy.

1106
00:48:00,300 --> 00:48:02,860
There was no one else doing all of this.

1107
00:48:02,860 --> 00:48:07,900
And he had a lot of flack for doing this, but people loved the music and they felt something

1108
00:48:07,900 --> 00:48:08,300
inside.

1109
00:48:08,300 --> 00:48:13,500
Now everybody and their mother can generate these frequencies with machines.

1110
00:48:13,500 --> 00:48:19,580
You can buy for 200 bucks on the internet, set the frequencies and be able to create

1111
00:48:19,580 --> 00:48:21,900
these, what did they call them?

1112
00:48:21,900 --> 00:48:26,380
Royal rife frequencies so that you can cure diseases and what have you.

1113
00:48:26,380 --> 00:48:31,580
And that's a whole different field I don't want to get into yet, but I want to make it

1114
00:48:31,580 --> 00:48:39,100
free for people so that they can go to a site, listen to what it is and be able to resonate

1115
00:48:39,100 --> 00:48:44,700
that particular part of their body that needs that resonance to be able to heal itself.

1116
00:48:44,700 --> 00:48:44,940
Yeah.

1117
00:48:44,940 --> 00:48:47,260
But also on frequency and harmonics.

1118
00:48:47,260 --> 00:48:50,780
I mean, there's this thing called harp.

1119
00:48:50,780 --> 00:48:51,580
Yes.

1120
00:48:51,580 --> 00:48:52,380
And harp.

1121
00:48:53,020 --> 00:48:54,940
It's in three places on the planet right now.

1122
00:48:55,900 --> 00:48:58,380
No, it's in Alaska, isn't it?

1123
00:48:58,380 --> 00:48:59,580
Alaska is one.

1124
00:48:59,580 --> 00:49:04,620
The other is in the Antarctic and there's one more in a desert.

1125
00:49:05,340 --> 00:49:06,780
This is the end of this chapter.

1126
00:49:06,780 --> 00:49:16,780
Catch the final chapter next week.