Hey Mel Gill, can you come to Bulgaria? I said, where is that? We're only half an hour from you.
Really? I've never heard, never been and da da da. The only time I heard about that was when I
studied a fellow much earlier, the origins of super learning, was a fellow named Professor
Georgi Lozanoff, who fell off the face of the earth. Nobody knew where he was.
The legendary psychotherapist Dr Mel Gill is one of the world's leading experts in personal
development and a mentor to countless other speakers and trainers around the world. He
is an internationally recognized training consultant and is also corporate advisor to
CEOs of Fortune 500 companies. Dr Mel Gill has been recognized by the Business Times and the
Sentinel as the number one top Asian American motivational speakers. He was invited by the
Napoleon Hill Foundation to speak as one of the top 17 speakers in the world in their inaugural
world convention. His experience in training, teaching and consulting, whether on a corporate
or individual basis, spans the globe from Hong Kong to Seattle, Chicago to Canada, and Singapore
to Australia. He is a world-class inspirational guru, often compared to the likes of Odd Mendino,
Napoleon Hill and Earl Nightingale. A licensed NLP master trainer or trainer since 1985,
he was responsible for bringing NLP to Asia in the late 80s and early 90s. He is a long-standing
president of the American Board of Neurolinguistic Psychology. He is an internationally recognized
business and blockchain education and implementation expert and one of the world's foremost consultants
in the areas of branding, marketing, leadership training, creativity enhancement, product
development, international trade, and as well, he is also best known as a private, corporate and
personal advisor and coach to heads of state of various countries and to CEOs of Fortune 500
companies. He is arguably well known for his role as the cynic in the extremely popular TV series
Incredible Tales. From 1999 until 2007, he made his mark on Singapore media as the effervescent,
irrepressible host of his own motivational talk show on 938 FM for seven years. Dr. Mel Gill is
the author of more than 157 books, two of which have become runaway international bestsellers,
Uncommon Sense and The Mantis Secret. He is also the CEO of a multinational publishing company,
Pandora Publishing House, based in Chicago, with offices in the Philippines, Bulgaria,
and Singapore. He is a filmmaker, having produced and directed the international bestselling movie,
The Mantis Secret, which some have hailed as a sequel from The Secret Movie, and he is currently
working on his next big Hollywood-style feature film, Anything Is Possible. Dr. Gill is a serial
entrepreneur, investor, and philanthropist, as well as an inventor of innovative energy systems,
water purification systems, and is now working with NASA and SpaceX on advanced technologies
and rocket propulsion systems for the Mars mission. Dr. Gill also has several patents still pending
on advanced space propulsion systems, cybernetic neural nets, magnetic motors, and generators,
and solar desalinization technology. And then some. Please welcome Dr. Mel Gill.
Dr. Mel Gill. Everybody tried to contact him. They couldn't. From age 17 onwards, I was trying to
contact him to the Russian embassy, and there was limited access in those days, if you remember.
And so I said to the publisher, I will come on one condition, that you find me, Yogi Lozanoff,
and you make an interview with him. They called me back the next day, said, are you coming? I said,
you found him? He said, we did. You'll have your interview two days after we finish all your
publicity, who, ha ha ha ha, launching the book in Bulgarian. And so we went to meet him 500
kilometers from Sofia, the capital city we drove, right? And an entourage to a little town called
Slyven. When I found him, he was living in a cockroach infested apartment, didn't know where
his next meal was coming from, and even worse, had multiple strokes, but couldn't afford a hospital
and all of that. So I said, Professor Lozanoff, you are a legend. You brought this quote unquote
super learning to the whole world. Everybody's been taking from you. No one's giving to you
quantum learning, this, that, all the other stuff derived from him. I said, yeah, they promised they
were going to give royalties and this and that. They gave nothing. So he got screwed, basically.
Yeah. Yeah. Not in the way he wanted to be screwed, but you know, yeah.
He was this guy. So I told my people that came with me, you know,
give them what they need to start. I said, oh, we need a heaters, you know, for, because we can't
teach in his suggestopedia foundation. We cannot teach. It's called suggestopedia, the origins of
super learning, quantum learning, business, anything to do with the mind started with this fellow.
Okay. And the way back in the fifties, wow. He worked with the Russians on accelerating
your faculty for memory. And he called it cosmic memory. Although Sheila Ostrander,
Lynn Schroeder wrote a book called psychic discoveries behind the curtain,
iron curtain, and they, uh, tabled the research done by professor Lozanoff. So here was a Bulgarian
hero, forgotten when Bulgaria was part of the Eastern block. Am I right? Yeah, it is. Yeah.
It was, yeah. But then it split off and became its own after the Soviet Union fell. Yeah. Yeah. And,
and thankfully, so now it's part of Shenzhen after so many years, part of, sorry, Shenzhen,
the Shenzhen countries, um, uh, France, uh, most of Europe is under Shenzhen. So they use the Europe,
uh, Euro currency. Yeah. Yeah. And so on and so forth. And this free travel between them.
Yeah. It's the EU. It's the EU. Bulgaria was part of the EU for many years. I've been in
Bulgaria 10 years already so far. And, um, and, uh, and what happened was, uh, they will always promise entry, but they didn't qualify
for certain reasons. And they did just this year, March, they joined Shenzhen. So that means if you
were a resident of Bulgaria, like my son is for now, uh, he can travel freely in all the European
countries. Yeah. This is a wonderful thing about being an EU citizen. Yeah. You get to go anywhere.
You don't even have to show your ID. You don't, no passport, neither, just cross borders. Nothing. It's
just, just even when you're flying, you don't need to, you go to a separate place. Yeah. But you know,
one thing I'll never forget you for, Doc, would be that wonderful book you wrote, Uncommon Sense.
Ah, yes. That one got me by the balls. I can tell you that. Okay. Good. You know, that picture in my head,
ask me about that picture.
Now I found a new use for the book. Okay. That's not a mosquito.
When you relaunch Uncommon Sense and you put a quote for me, it grabbed me by the balls.
I tell you a word, man. A ball grabbing book. You know, you can't. Chris Hansen,
podcaster for the Chris Hansen conversation says Uncommon Sense grabbed it by the balls.
Yeah. Like ball grabbing book. You can't get your hands off it. If you're a woman, it means something else.
You autographed that for me, you know? I did. Yeah. Actually. Okay. Okay. Maybe I should recap a little bit.
Before we actually met and introduced ourselves to each other and that particular event we spoke about.
Yeah. I remember it's a barbecue on a beach. Yeah. Correct. But prior to that, a couple of years
before that, I met you at a much larger convention. I was there as a delegate and you had a booth
and you were with your signature cowboy hat. Yes. The Australian hat. Yeah. And I came up to you
and I bought Uncommon Sense and you autographed it for me. Right. Yeah. It's still in my office.
It's still there. You know, that's the time of the first few Singapore book fairs. And yeah. It wasn't
a book fair. It was at a convention and you had a book. A guy named Philip, right? You used to work.
Did he give you that spot? I think so. If I'm not mistaken anyway. That part, edit out from the video.
Anyway. Sorry, Philip. So, you know, that's when I met you and you autographed that book.
Right. And I was so chuffed about the fact that Dr. Melgoo autographed this book for me, man.
Really, man. I mean, come on. I was so into the stuff you were doing and I was reading.
I read that book cover to cover, man. You know. Thank you. Yeah. Really, I did. And to me. I'm
rewriting it. Oh, great. Now I realize it was 400 pages. It's going to lose about 200 odd pages,
but it's going to concentrate the ideas that were important and have exercises and also at the same
time have affirmations of any kind that you can take a look at in summaries so that you know what
it is you can use. Send one my way. Of course. Anyway, you know, you were best remembered
here in Singapore for your role on radio. Right. And seven years. Seven years on radio. Yeah. And
on top of that, on TV for the series, Incredible Tales. Incredulous Tales. Yes, that's right.
Incredible. Incredible Tales. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Yes. That's why you said
Incredulous. I was about to go where Dr. Melgoo usually debunks and throws all that shit out the
window. Correct. You know, that didn't work out well for me because after about two, three years
of doing that, I would walk into a chicken rice restaurant and the guy who said, I know you.
I know he's serving the food. I said, I know you. I know you. I said, TV. Yeah. You want me to sign
something? It's no problem. Do we get a discount? I said, no, obviously not. But he said, I don't
care what you say. I believe in ghosts and da da da. So in other words, I'm the official debunker
of all of that. But by the time I finished talking to you about what exactly is happening,
my education in quote unquote ghosts went from mental health conditions to
powers and abilities that we are only now beginning to find out. Okay. So you're saying now
the Dr. Melgoo today is no longer that skeptic? It's always the skeptic. It's always in everything.
I'm the skeptic. So would it be common sense then to the man who used to, okay, not used to,
maybe even now, debunk, skeptical, debunking, all these things. Do you then,
would it be common sense? I'm saying it. Would it be common sense?
To believe or disbelief in the existence of extraterrestrial life? It's not a question of
belief. It's not. It's a question of what exists and what is the physics behind what exists.
There is DARPA. I don't know if you're familiar with DARPA is the defense science arm of the
US military, right? Advanced research projects administration. Yes. Right. And they are working
with some companies around the world, especially with SD technologies. They are working on DARPA
on consciousness assisted devices. Now, what does that mean? That means that there are interfaces
that we have no capability of understanding that Elon Musk has, but they are working on
that. We have no capability of understanding that Elon Musk is only now scratching the surface with
Neuralink. You know, uploading information into the brain. Re-organizing how the brain remembers
information and everything else. We're not even close to that interface between the computer
and yourself, and these computers are far more advanced than what you have in front of you.
Well, they're quantum level computers
that sometimes are made of, well, energy.
That's it, the neutrinos, subatomic particles, what have you.
You'd be surprised, resonance can create,
standing waves of resonance can create matter
just by watching it form right in front of you.
Okay.
I read a couple of days ago, and it's public knowledge,
because the government said so.
I think if I'm not, I can stand corrected.
They're going to be pushing out 60 million
for in the field of quantum computing.
60 million, that's all?
That's what I, like I said, I can stand corrected.
One computer would cost that much.
My memory.
600 maybe.
My memory tells me, maybe 600 million, you're right.
Yeah, more.
Yeah, maybe 600 million, yeah.
Yeah, that's the kind of budgets we're talking about.
Mm. Yeah.
Into quantum computing, and now you're telling me this.
And you said resonance.
You know, I can't stand this,
because now I've got to scroll down all the way down here,
because I've got something about that here.
Scrolling down is good.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know why?
Because this show, UFO Reveal Asia,
on the Chris Hansen conversation,
is probably the only UFO show in Asia.
Oh, okay, we'll get there too.
But we're also about ADHD,
because remember the question you asked earlier,
you want me to finish the answer for that?
Mm.
About ghosts and what I believe?
No, no, actually I asked you whether you believe
should we have common sense over extraterrestrials?
Well. Not ghosts.
Perspective, perspective, okay.
At this level, you see cups, you see this fellow.
Ooby, Ooby, Ooby, Ooby, okay.
His name is Ooby.
Ooby, okay, edible too.
And so you, and Caillou, Ooby Caillou.
So then you have, you go higher,
we were talking about your house, right?
Third level right here.
And then if you go higher, the view changes.
You go higher, the view changes.
You go right to the very top.
The view is completely different,
and you get more of a 360 degrees
than in one direction that you see.
So the more you know about the physics behind everything,
the more you begin to understand how it works.
So the person on the ground will see another thing
materialized and say, oh my God, that's magic.
Or like they do on YouTube and TikTok videos
where they show you how magic works and cuts the rope.
And you see one view from the perspective
of the person watching the show and they,
oh, that's magic, how did he do it?
But when the other camera is looking at it,
they show you exactly what they're doing.
And all of a sudden you see the magic behind it
and it's no longer magical.
So it's the same with technology of the highest order.
What we don't understand and what we cannot fathom
in terms of how it works seems like magic to us,
but it's not.
And the more you understand and the more you study,
the more you realize that whoever it is,
the US government, another government outside
of the government, what do they call it?
The shadow government.
The shadow state, whatever it might be called,
extends all over the world.
Deep state, yeah.
Yeah, the deep state, there you go.
And everything that you think is decided
on an international level, you only see
from a spectator point of view.
Behind the scenes, you have no clue.
The massive amount of money that goes
into developing technologies that are mind blowing.
But don't, what you just said,
coming from a guy who is a skeptic.
I'm looking still at the technology.
So let me extend it to ghosts.
No, no, no, no, no.
Let me extend it to ghosts.
Deep state, deep state.
For example, what you said.
Yeah.
Deep state and all that shadow government.
I don't talk about it much.
Yeah, I know, but coming from a skeptic.
Your forum would be the best one to talk about it
because it's still edgy and it's still, you know,
something that people don't pay a lot of attention to.
And if it reaches millions, then yeah, I think I'm in trouble.
I'm not gonna allow Dr. Mel Gill to really let me out,
really shine my, to allow my ADHD to shine
because I'm still gonna hop on this right now.
I'm not gonna get, I am not gonna walk away from this.
No, hey.
Dr. Mel Gill, the skeptic talking about deep state,
shadow governments and all that.
I mean, I find it kind of hard to swallow
that is coming from you.
Are we still talking about grabbing it by the balls
and swallowing at the same time?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
We are going to grab it by the balls,
swallowing it, it's up to you.
Yeah.
Now you're gonna tell me.
Okay.
Why do you say that?
I mean, I think you're a man that worked,
like you said, physics, the science behind it.
So there's gotta be some amount of fact
for you to be able to say what you just did, right?
Have you checked out my foundation site?
I have.
Yeah, did you read?
I did.
We are unraveling.
The rest of the world watching this show right now.
We are unraveling.
I haven't read it.
So just talk about that.
We're unraveling, mostly in Bulgaria
and some other isolated places,
in Singapore, Singapore is where
the conceptualizations happen,
but, and the physics happens.
But the actual experimentation is we're working
to re-engineer Nikola Tesla's inventions,
fine tuning some propulsion systems
for space travel that uses very little hydrocarbon fuels,
only for stabilization purposes.
And the rest is all high-gauss magnetic fields
spinning at such rates that you cannot even imagine.
They have different properties
and the properties are working much like a-
Element 115?
115 is different.
That's Lazarus things, right?
And so for that, you need hundreds of millions of dollars
to be able to recreate 115.
And now they have, but it's only,
oh, officially have small quantities of this stuff,
not even usable.
But apparently they've been given a lot of 115,
element 115 from sources that are not from-
This world.
Here.
Yeah. Here.
Yeah. Okay, we're getting somewhere.
Now, what people think are extraterrestrial
from different planets may actually be
interdimensional travelers,
people on whose frequencies are slightly a little bit off.
Now, if you take a look at technology
as frequency modulation,
then you begin to realize that even this cup
and the existence of this cup is from a mass mind
coming together to produce and put together these molecules.
If you understand how it works
and you have the kind of technology
that can create the resonance,
this thing can float in the air.
This thing can actually move,
can desolidify, crack into a billion different pieces.
You can decide what you want.
So standing waves,
especially when it comes to resonance fields
and magnetism and electromagnetism
are responsible for the movement of objects
that are actually heavier than most buildings are,
like this entire building,
it can easily be moved by one man, one person.
Sounds like something that Yuri Geller was famous for,
moving stones and-
Yuri Geller is up in the air.
I mean, there's some people have said
that he's not real, da-da-da-da-da.
But you know, that whole area of telekinesis
and psychokinesis, they call it,
was being worked on by the Soviet Union
and spending a lot of money.
My involvement in this was in the early 90s.
I was working with SRI, Stanford Research Institute,
but my involvement with them was only with remote viewing
and collecting statistical data for that.
So that's all I did.
And tried to recruit talented people.
That's not a lot.
There were two people that were quite good
at what they were doing, where they are, I don't know.
Remote viewing.
There are seven stages to remote viewing.
The first stage is anybody can do.
You can sit down and guess what's in an envelope
that's written by somebody else.
And then you start to let your mind go
and then you start to find it.
And some people are talented at it, some people are not.
It's like, you can't make the assumption
that everybody has this skill.
Of course, everybody has this skill.
But that's like saying everybody has the skill
to play a guitar at the same time.
But not everybody's good at it.
And some people, when they start, you go,
oh my God, poor thing, let me give them some money
to shut up, something like that.
And so the skill levels of different people depends
on their ability to be able to notice the world
from a less restrictive perspective.
If you're bound inside of a religion with certain dogma,
you will find it very hard to go into remote viewing
because your belief is that you are singular
and you're the only one that's gonna make it happen.
Everybody else is gonna go to hell, but that's not true.
We're a brotherhood.
We are one species, we are human.
And relatably having DNA that's not identifiable,
but we can find that later as more information is disclosed,
we begin to realize that we had cooperation
with species other than us.
Well, more intelligent than us.
Leaps and bounds more intelligent than us.
So you can imagine as a primitive species on earth
with limited access to technology,
what we would do with that is to weaponize it
and use it against people.
We don't wanna do that.
We hurt people instead of being all inclusive.
So the second, third, fourth, fifth level
is easy to achieve.
You will achieve accuracy.
What they have done with the remote viewing project,
I think they called it Stargate at that time.
And it was funded by the CIA, a black budget program.
And they said they stopped, but it didn't.
It actually continued in one of the offices
that are not far from Montauk, the town,
was where they started moving all of the research to
when things became crazy.
This is part of the Montauk project, right?
The Montauk project is different.
Okay, before we go there, let's continue on the remote viewing.
We'll talk about that.
Because I lived not far from Montauk, about two hours.
And I've been on the base with my brother.
We took pictures.
We actually, I should have brought the pictures.
No, man, I got one.
Can we flash Montauk up for me, please?
Kai, there you go.
Is that the one?
Yeah, that's looking down through the radar tower, yep.
But we have the doors as well that were sealed
and the entrances to the lower levels and all of that.
My brother and I were there for about a good three
or four hours.
And I noticed because I have some mobility
and stuff like that, that that was built on a grid,
earth energy grid right above us.
It was just offshore a little bit,
maybe about 400 yards or so offshore.
And I don't know what that is in meters, but help me.
Yards, I don't know, man.
Yards, I'm completely off where yards is concerned.
My mathematics was destroyed.
You talk to me, yards and pounds and oh my gosh.
Easier to measure things in centimeters
because it looks bigger.
Yeah, the numbers are bigger.
But so what we found was as we started to get
a little bit more thorough with our search for the base
and taking pictures, both of us had an image in our head
and he said, are you feeling this?
Because it doesn't feel good.
Ominous feeling came over both of us.
I said, you see something?
I said, yes, my brother felt it.
And I said, write it down and I'll write down something
that I see and we both compared it later.
And we looked at it, it's a horned beast and da da da da.
He couldn't draw for nuts, but he's a lawyer.
And so I drew it and showed it and I said,
this thing is telling us to get out of here, whatever it is.
And I think it's part of a defense system.
There was no real creature, it's just a projection
that to get out and we triggered something on the grounds
that did that.
So both of us rushed the hell out into Montauk
because the base is about 20 minutes from the town itself.
So we have to get back there.
And that stayed with us and disturbed us for a while.
And he didn't wanna come back.
So he had the car.
So I said, okay, this will be the last time
we're gonna go there.
I since then, they have fortified the base
and nobody does go there.
But anyway, long story short in Montauk itself,
some of the remote viewing experiments were continued
and in several different places in the United States.
I think Mac Monagle was his last name,
the fellow who ran some of the residual programs.
He came out eventually.
When you reach stage seven in remote viewing,
you want to quit your job.
You wanna quit what it is you're doing for the military
because you target systems and you target dumps,
ammunition dumps and all of that.
And so they can pinpoint laser point missiles
to blow them all up, which is useful,
but except there are people there.
And so when you destroy or kill or maim or hurt people,
you feel it at the seventh level.
You feel the consequences of all that.
You cannot deal with that.
So at that level, you become almost Buddha-like
or you become all-inclusive and you begin to realize
the interconnectedness of not just people,
but animals and even the food you eat.
And you start looking at everything a little bit strangely.
So it's like your conscious,
the level of your consciousness had been upgraded.
To be very inclusive with everything.
And then you begin to become more and more silent.
And so what they found that most people
don't wanna continue because large population bases
were being eradicated, killed, destroyed, murdered.
In other words.
Wow, dog.
So you were one of those guys.
No, data, data collections and identifying people
that would be useful.
The training was done by seasoned professionals.
This was in your time in the US.
Not just the US here, 1991, SRI was here.
Okay, okay, okay.
Before they were closed down in 1994, I think.
I still know the manager,
he's still looking for a job out there,
but he's selling licenses from Disney and a few others,
making a good amount of money.
Okay.
Yeah, and they were throwing out a lot of junk, I remember,
because they were closing down rapidly.
They had to close shop and leave.
And I asked for some of the stuff they had.
And some of them were photos, bonds from China
from 1910 and 18 something.
And they're worth a lot.
And the guy said, you want it?
He said, yeah, how much?
You want to sell it for?
I said, nothing, you take it, Mel.
And so I took two or three or four of them
and I have them on my walls.
And people think they're, oh, nice little old thing,
but they're actually worth a lot.
I didn't realize that until much, much later.
At that time, it would just look beautiful.
And like your house, you have a lot of cool posters
and a lot of, it's like that.
And so I wanted to do something like that.
It was fun.
So yeah, just to tell you,
when you get into all of these technologies,
you begin to realize the border between mind power,
spirituality, loosely called spirituality,
and the ethereal and science,
that border starts to thin a little bit
because the consciousness assisted devices
can actually was used in time travel as well,
because they don't have a good propulsion device.
Okay, now he's going to time trap.
Well, eventually it used Montauk.
Montauk, yeah, yeah, okay.
So we're gonna start on Montauk now.
If you take a look at the declassified information
from the CIA, what were the experiments conducted in Montauk?
They called it time dilation experiments.
Okay.
Now what is that?
Time dilation and contraction.
What is that?
Are you?
So-
I'm waiting for Dr. Mel Gill to tell me.
So when you start to think in terms of dilation,
you're thinking of an expanding field.
Right.
If I ask anybody, even a scientist right now,
and from years ago, they're not able to tell me,
if I ask them, what is a magnetic field?
What is it?
And they can tell me the effect of it.
They can tell me what it does.
They can tell me about uses for it.
They've used it in all the dynamos and what have you
to create electricity and movements and what have you.
But what is it?
What is the magnetic field?
It works in a vacuum.
How come?
In a complete vacuum.
Why does the field still work?
So you begin to identify what people don't know
or scientists don't know by exploring the language.
You know, when he says, what is this?
Or it's a field.
It's a field effect.
That means I know fucking clue what this is.
It's a field.
It's a field effect.
So when we call it a field effect,
then what is the electromagnetic field?
What is that?
How is it generated?
It's artificial.
Yes, we can create electromagnetic fields.
But why is it a field?
Why does it work in vacuum?
I mean, within materials we know,
but how come in a vacuum?
Why does it work through the air
where there's no air in a vacuum?
And so those kind of questions take you back
to the origins of physics and then the origins
of mathematics and then you begin to discover
that we have it all backwards.
That there are a few things that we built
an entire universe upon.
Like I don't know what electricity is,
but I know how to use it.
And same with mind control devices and all of that.
In the beginning, in the 50s, 60s,
where they perfected some of these anti-gravity systems
and what have you, perfected, huh?
Yeah, perfected.
All you have to do is just look at Skunk Works,
Lockheed, Lockheed, and take a look at the last president.
I think it was John Rich who quit at that time.
His closing speech was, we have the technology,
and this is 1960s.
To take ET home.
Yes, you know that.
We have the technology to take ET home.
Yeah, that's what he said.
Not in seven, eight, nine light years,
like instantaneously.
No.
Within an hour, I can go to,
what did you mention, the galaxy?
Zeta Reticuli.
I can take him there.
And there are so many experiments.
There's one, they talked about sending troops
in an exchange program, seven people,
to a particular planet, Serpico, I think it was.
Serpico, yeah.
Yeah.
And people coming back and talking about a program
where they send you forward into learn something
in 20 years and then send you back in terms of your age.
How much do you believe in all of this, Dom?
It's not, okay, I've gone past believe, don't believe.
I've gone past.
So where are you now with that?
When I started the foundation about seven years ago,
in Bulgaria, because it became clear to me
that a lot of technology was buried in the ground
over there from a past era.
I made friends with a lot of people,
and because I'm a Freemason,
we had top level people at our meetings.
And so the Admiral of the fleet is a friend of mine.
So we sit down and we discuss stuff and I help him.
The Admiral of the Bulgarian fleet.
Yeah.
Okay.
What we did was I helped them set up a leadership school
because that's my expertise, leadership, self-confidence,
self-esteem, all of those kinds of things,
and how to make decisions, strategies work for you.
How to think more clearly, you know,
so I could teach them all of that.
So they could respond and get past blocks and what have you.
So I showed them how they built cities in the olden days,
76,000 years ago.
Now, how do I know that?
76,000 years ago.
So you're into the ancient, our history,
big archeology has got it wrong too.
Yes.
Yes, I mean, there's a lot of devices.
So you and Graham Hancock can really shake hands together.
I've listened to him and you know, he's not wrong.
He's not wrong because there's a lot of questions
that these convenient current theories cannot answer.
Example, in Bulgaria, in the time of the Nazi occupation
and all of that, when they invaded Bulgaria,
they started to send troops to a particular site.
It's called the Princess Bastad burial site.
Egyptian princess, her name is Bas, B-A-S,
and T-E-D, yeah.
So, and she had come through Bulgaria, apparently,
on one of the journeys and was buried there.
That's the lore.
And so they were guarding that site.
For what?
Because everybody who came in there,
soldiers who tried to come in there,
the German soldiers would suddenly die of a heart attack
in the entrances to these caves.
Where her tomb is.
Yeah, it's high up in the Strangia Mountains in Bulgaria.
I've been there and I could feel the field,
whatever the field was.
And so when the Soviets came over, took over,
and the Germans lost the war,
they again stationed a lot of Russian troops
over there as well and several other sites
north of Sofia, the capital city.
And a lot of technology was apparently buried there
in the sarcophagus.
In fact, there is still a church there
that's not far from Varna, the city I live in,
about 20, 25 kilometers.
There's a church where there's a sarcophagus
that's more than 25 meters long.
No one opened it.
It's a sacred site.
25 meters long sarcophagus.
Yes, yes, yes.
A coffin.
Of a giant.
We don't know, nobody knows.
But when you do put your hand in it,
you can feel a repelling force.
There's a little hole that they say you get blessings from.
I refuse because I didn't know what was happening over there
and people get all kinds of feelings with their hands
and they lose-
Control.
Not control, they lose the touch.
Dexterity.
No, they have dexterity.
It's just the sense of touch is not there.
The feel, the feel, the sense of touch.
Yeah, it's not there.
So in this Bastid, what happened when the Russians pulled back
was they saw them, eyewitness accounts again,
lift large sarcophaguses.
Then these ones are only like 25 foot, da da da da da.
Plural.
Two or three.
And some other things.
They took out and took it back to Moscow, of course.
And they blew up the entrances to the Bastid, various sites.
Now why would you do that?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Especially if it's historical or something important,
da da da da da.
So there are more sites.
And I believe that Atlantis was not really a small place.
It was like saying, if you say Atlantis,
it's like saying Asia.
Continent.
A continent, literally.
Most of it underwater, most of it not here,
some in Japan, some in, and part of it in the Black Sea.
So if I use my theory correctly,
when they built ancient cities on these grids,
they built it in a triangulated equilateral triangle.
So recognizing that Varna is one of the oldest cities
in the world, in fact, the oldest gold in the world
was found in Varna.
Okay.
More than, what did they estimate it at?
Somewhere around 12 to 15,000 BC.
That's unreal, right?
Yeah, it's unreal, yeah.
To begin with, it first of all calls into question
what do we know.
Yeah.
And then the other thing is that they were connected
together with small little drill holes.
Drill holes?
We didn't invent the drill till just recently.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And they're micro.
I mean, hair thin.
Yeah.
It's in the museum.
You can go check it out.
It's like Gobekli Tepe, man.
Yes, exactly.
Yeah.
Again, a technology existed that we have no concept of.
And so convenient history was created
so that we don't start to understand
that maybe we are much more than we realize.
Than what we've been told.
That we've been told.
And why?
More easy to control an ignorant crowd
than a one that's informed.
Just turn us into sheep.
Right, exactly.
Imagine, so when I went there
and took a look at all of these things happening in Bulgaria,
I told them, first of all, let me find you a city.
Okay.
One of the Atlantean cities in the Black Sea.
Holy shit balls, really?
You can do it in Google Earth right now.
Older city is Istanbul before Constantinople.
And before Constantinople was called something else.
Yeah.
Now you put a compasses, you know,
on between Varna and that,
and then put it out to sea
and do the same with Varna out to sea.
Equal, equilateral triangle.
You look straight down on Google Earth,
and you will find under the water,
about 1.7 kilometers deep,
is a city, a grid.
And it shows just like those Mayan cities
that are lost in the jungle and all that.
With the pyramids and stuff.
The pyramids, several of them off here and there.
Okay, dog.
Everywhere in the Black Sea.
First of all, has this been discovered officially?
Yes, one guy, I told this one guy, astrologer.
Okay.
First of all, because he was very interested
and he seemed to be a biggest fan.
He was my quote unquote assistant for a few things.
Then next thing I know, within a couple of weeks,
I see him on radio saying he discovered that,
da da da da da.
And the only one who knew that I was the one
who had told people how to do that
was the Admiral and myself.
And he said it, look at this clown.
You know?
He wanted to take, basically he stole the credit.
Yeah, yeah.
He used a word, a Bulgarian word for asshole,
but it works.
Yeah, right.
And-
Copilé.
Sorry?
Copilé, the Bulgarian word.
Oh yeah, Copilé.
Okay, that's something new.
Copilé, right.
So he's a Copilé.
Yeah, so anyway, so-
And the city.
When the Admiral sat there and I showed him how it's done,
the first thing he did was turn to his assistant,
who was the commanding officer for the fleet.
And he asked him, Bulgarian, is this one of us?
He didn't realize I spoke Bulgarian.
And so he said, is this one of ours?
And he said, okay, Dr. Gill,
when we go out and explore what this is,
because they don't want it to be from the Russians,
and they played something in there and this and that,
because they have submarine warehouses,
I don't know what to call them,
where they store certain munitions and what have you,
storage places, right?
Yeah, but it's not going to be underwater anyway.
There are.
Huh?
There are.
Right.
Yeah, because they're not detectable, right?
So unless you use the new blue light satellites,
and you can see through the water,
then it'd be a different thing.
But this is all easily found.
Now there's several companies
working with SD Technologies in Singapore.
Oh, boy.
One of them is a university professor
that I happen to know here.
And they're working on geosat satellites, geosats,
and they're working with what is called remote sensing,
not remote viewing, but remote sensing,
where they're able to project to the ground
and from the satellite,
be able to tell you what minerals and what is what,
and what is where, and so on and so forth.
And we have a very clear idea.
And let me tell you that technology,
we're one and a half years away from perfection.
Okay.
That's crazy.
Let's get back to that city.
Yeah.
The underwater city.
So we haven't gone there yet.
There was a boat.
That's a Bulgarian name for the boat
that cost about 10,000 leva,
which is about Singapore, $8,000 a day to take out.
And sense everything and map it.
So at that time we didn't have those dollars.
It became a little bit difficult
because I was involved with a whole bunch
of different things.
But if we are ready,
and if there's anybody that wants to
fund this mission. Fund this expedition.
Who knows what technologies lie there that we can collect.
But as a Bulgarian soil though,
I have to tell you, there is a lot of gold
from ancient times.
And there's a lot of technology,
quote unquote technology buried
with fail safe devices as well.
Outside of Sofia, there's the sites I was telling you about.
South, no, northwest,
about 50 to a hundred kilometers.
The Russians working, the Bulgarians
and the Russians working together with the psychic.
Baba Vanga is the name.
Yeah, yeah, Baba Vanga.
Yeah, yeah.
And Professor Lozanoff,
one of his subjects was Baba Vanga
and her ability as well.
She was blind.
Yeah, blind lady.
She wasn't born blind,
but I went to the town where she was born
and everybody reveres her as a prophet, what have you.
And they used her to be able to sense
where this well that's more than 20, 30 meters across
had a, what did they call it?
Treasures.
Oh, she calls treasures from an ancient time.
Before the Traitians,
before the people that ran the different communities
and all warring factions and all of that,
there was 76,000 years ago, a person,
not person, but a group of people
that buried a lot of technology.
And you talk about Anunnaki,
talk about Enki and all these other people
and so on and so forth.
They have sites specifically dedicated
to gods that remained behind, quote unquote, in Bulgaria.
I mean, we're talking about a land full of farmers
and what have you and people who are so desperately poor
that they're working on this, that, that, that,
the other thing, not being able to pay attention
to these different sites that have fields of energy.
You walk into these domes that are in the ground
and you feel the energy and you go, what on earth is this?
You know, and I sneak in magnets and stuff
to see the effect, none, zero.
So it's a different form of energy from magnetic fields
and other things that we know.
So it's not a magnetic field.
No, it's something else.
And again, how do, you know, you talk about
the crystal skulls and what they can do
and they have a repelling force on them.
Again, it's not electromagnetic in nature.
So what is it?
Yeah, so what is it, Doug?
What are you using?
Well, I have some theories.
Okay, let's share it.
But that's not what we're working on.
I'm only singular in my efforts right now.
I'd like to hear what you're using.
I will, I'll talk about that.
The singular effort is on propulsion systems.
I want to be able to make space travel
affordable for everybody else.
I'm the Tony Fernandez of space travel.
You know, now everybody can go into space.
Whether you come back or not, that's a different story.
And that would be on your magneto-gravity vortex technology.
Yes, you read this, okay, yes.
I told you I read it.
That's exactly what we're working on.
Okay, tell me about that.
Well, you know how gyroscopes work, right?
Something that is so obvious
that we see on the street right now, motorbikes.
Have you ever seen you move, or bicycles even,
when they move, you know, stand alone, they should fall.
Yeah.
Moving, they don't fall.
What is that force that keeps them up there?
Gravity.
No, it's a gyroscopic force.
Okay, fine.
It's a gyroscopic force.
And so when you start spinning magnetic fields
in a gyroscopic fashion, they take on a different property,
almost like a cross between a gyroscope and a capacitor.
You know, they start to build charge
in a particular direction.
So if you can concentrate all of this in one direction,
have you heard in magnets
there's this thing called the Hallberg Array?
No.
Okay.
They arrange these magnets.
And you can buy them, several hundred thousand dollars.
Okay, thanks very much.
But they're interesting toys
because they direct the magnetic field in one direction,
not the other.
Okay.
Usually it's a 360 effect, right?
But this one is directional.
Directed, yeah.
Yeah. Okay.
So these Hallberg arrays are able to,
when spun in a particular direction,
create charge in a particular direction.
And because of the movement, the thing lifts.
Okay.
The devices that we've built so far in New York
and in Bulgaria tend to explode 10 feet, 20 feet.
We can't even record it
because it looks like somebody just threw it up.
So nobody's gonna believe that.
So what we need is to be able to build
and tell you something to build one craft
that's about a million and a half dollars, roughly,
with what we need to put on it,
especially the titanium shells and everything else we have.
And when we start to put it together,
it needs to have GoPros that are able to track it
and other tracking devices.
Take it into near space, which is not very far.
180 kilometers, I think it is.
And then bring it back safely.
And then later put the animals that the people won't kill me
for putting on these things like chickens,
things that people eat, not apes or dogs.
Don't be surprised if you get canceled for even that.
Really?
I don't know, man.
A chicken?
The world's crazy these days.
So just like, well, dog.
We'll be sponsored by KFC.
Why use this technology?
What do you think about Lazar's theory?
Yeah, I know, musconium breaks down too easily, right?
They synthesized this thing in the 2000s already.
And apparently skunkworks have got it done.
Not that technology.
They use something else.
Yeah, but not an element.
They influence the magnetic fields
by using very high voltages that are not achievable
anywhere else, except in the way
in which they put it all together.
High magnetic fields, high gauze magnetic fields.
They're very powerful.
I bought some at home off the internet.
They cost about $3,000, $2,000.
They're about the size of this,
but yeah, they're very dangerous.
So they don't ship them because by airplane,
you have to send it by boat or something else.
And you take that magnet,
an ordinary magnet like this ferromagnet
would be able to use maybe about 20, 30 pounds to lift it.
That one is about 4,000 pounds or more.
So you can see the force that's involved in that.
So those are not cheap to put together,
especially if you need an array of 110 of them
in a specific direction and spinning.
And that means they all have to be the same weight,
because if you're spinning something in a circular fashion
and one thing is just microgram off,
the whole thing becomes wobbly and starts to destabilize.
I'm gonna go back to my very first question.
Yeah.
You also mentioned earlier on,
I mean, somehow or other,
we, someone gave us some amount of technology.
So do you not think that outside of this planet,
that there is life elsewhere?
That we've been visited, that they're here?
It's not a belief.
You just take a look at the history, just understand.
If an occurrence, if there's only one occurrence,
you can dismiss it.
Two, three, four, five, six, yeah, dismiss it.
Several hundred thousand, come on.
We have to pay attention to what's happening.
So basically you don't believe,
but you actually are certain then that we have been visited,
have been visited, they are here.
I don't talk about it a lot.
I know, why not?
I have to, well, there is a fellow
who is thinking along similar lines.
Now coming out, I don't know why, he's being ostracized,
he's being put down, he's being labeled a lunatic.
This is the end of chapter one.
Catch chapter two next week.
Mmm.