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You believe in Hadi Mirza?

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Oh yes.

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And you coached him?

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Yes.

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For the Asian Idol finals that he won?

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No, I didn't.

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Okay.

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Which one do you coach him for?

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For which one do you coach him for?

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Okay.

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I basically I just coached him as a performer.

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Hi everyone.

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Welcome to episode 8 of season 3 of the Chris Hansen conversation.

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Oh wow.

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It's been a great Chinese New Year break.

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Yep, this is all pre-recorded but nothing ever censored.

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I can tell you today on our tribute show to SG's music icon I've got with me.

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I've got with me a true icon.

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We call her a diva.

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I want to read to you what I found.

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Someone wrote this in an article and it says, she sings, she dances, she hosts.

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A combination of a stunning beauty and talent portrays this star every bit really like a

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star.

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It is no surprise that a half Indian Portuguese songstress keeps people coming back for more

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after seeing her exhilarating performance.

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Welcome to the studio Alia D.

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Thank you so much.

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And I call her madam by the way.

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I don't see any other way to call her but call her madam.

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But I want to clear a muddle up.

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I also don't know why you call me madam.

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Respect lah.

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Oh respect ah.

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I think if I call Anne Hussein madam she'd be quite angry.

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I never call her madam though.

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I want to clear a muddle up.

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People know you and I really want to find out really.

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Your name as when it's been announced for a show.

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Do people announce you as Alia, Alia Sharma, Alia D.

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Melda Sharma or Alia D.

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Is there something I don't know?

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Oh okay.

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When I started long time ago lah.

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Wait wait don't run away from this kind of things.

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Long time ago is how long ago?

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Long time.

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Very long.

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Too long.

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I can't even remember the year.

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How long?

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I don't give a shit.

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How long ago?

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Okay when I say nineteen something already is long lah.

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Nineteen...

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Nineteen ninety...

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Five?

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Ninety five, ninety six?

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Something like that.

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That's not long.

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Not long ah?

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Not.

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Okay lah.

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But yeah okay.

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They used to call me Alia, Alia, Alia.

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But actually my name is pronounced Alia.

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Right.

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Okay.

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So it's Alia and then...

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And you never corrected people about that?

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Yeah.

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Why?

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Cause...

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I don't know.

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Actually you're right.

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I don't realize it until you actually ask me.

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Me right now?

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Me asking you now?

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So only in the later years of my career, I wanted to be known as Alia Dee.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Um it has always been Alia and then after that it was Alia Sharma.

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Okay.

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And then it became um Alia Dee with a apostrophe.

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Melda.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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And then my goodness there's so many identity changes there man.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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And then I just wanted to be called Alia Dee.

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Okay and that is the case till today?

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Till today.

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But people still announce you...

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As Alia.

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No.

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People still announce you as Alia.

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Alia yes.

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As in ginger.

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Yeah Alia.

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Actually to be honest, to be honest ah, that's the most easiest way for people to be honest

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is to ask people to remember my name.

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But it's not right isn't it?

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Yeah but you know as long as I'm on stage nothing else matters you know.

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I'm like that you know.

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I'm gonna do you a favor.

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Of course like it's a bit uncomfortable you know when they say like...

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Of course it's uncomfortable.

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They will say like eh what's your name?

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Alia.

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Oh okay whatever rocks your boat you know.

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Oh man no I'm gonna do you a favor man.

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Once and for all, once for freaking all, everybody, any one of you out there who do work closely

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with Alia, it is pronounced as Alia and please for goodness sake stop calling her Alia.

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Alia.

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Because that one really is ginger lah.

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Okay and it's so funny you know madam you know why because I'm having people that got

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something to do with ginger in my studio.

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Really why?

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Eh ginger is very good to you.

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No no no no no.

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I mean I've got the good people from Gingerbread that were here in season 2.

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Then I had, that was Ann and Jason, then I had Dudley Nones here also from Gingerbread

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you know and then I really got a ginger here.

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You got a real ginger here see.

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But seriously I mean to me right, I mean come on, if you feel, any artists feel uncomfortable

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the way the names are being pronounced, they ought to correct people.

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Even if it's Alia, then it's Alia.

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So let me get this straight again, once and for all, right now, today and moving forward,

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your stage name, should I ever have another time where I as a host of a show have to announce

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you it is Alia Dee.

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That's right.

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Okay good then I got it right.

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Alia Dee.

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I want to just go to this particular question that I ask of all of my guests, almost all.

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And this one is going to be a very common one.

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In your own words and in your own mind, can you tell everyone, tell me who, just who is

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Alia Dee?

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Who am I?

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I'm everlasting, always changing.

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Always changing that's for sure.

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What do you mean by changing?

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Changing in terms of everything.

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The way I look in life, my taste of music, my fashion sense.

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And I always want to evolve you know.

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So if people were to say, Alia is okay we're talking about music here for example.

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For music people will say, oh Alia is an R&B singer.

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I like R&B music but I'm not an R&B singer.

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Alia is a rock singer.

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I love rock music but I'm not a rock singer.

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Alia is a pop singer.

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I would relate more to pop.

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So you actually would once and for all, state it for a matter of fact that what you are

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truly you're a pop singer.

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I'm a pop singer.

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Okay but not that you cannot do rock.

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I can do whatever you give me.

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You do jazz as well.

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I do jazz music, I do R&B, I do hip hop, I rap, you give me anything I'll do.

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I'll do it you know.

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So quintessentially you are truly a diva.

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Wow.

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Yeah why?

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That's a very big role to play.

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No that's the title of this show.

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The tribute to you.

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Really?

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Is that you're a diva.

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Wow I'm so honored.

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Because I've heard, come on, come on, I've heard you sing and not everyone, smart fact

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I've never thought there was anyone for that matter throughout my entire life and career

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that have sung not just once, several times with me there in the audience and actually

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made me tear.

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Really?

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Yeah.

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You have.

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The only person that's done that to me was James Ingram.

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Yeah.

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You know we went for the James Ingram concert right and when that guy start from big, from

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the start of his concert to the end, I was literally in tears.

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That's how, that's how artists, you know singers if they can do that, they, it's like osmosis,

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they get that emotion out of you.

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Yes.

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You know that's brilliant, that's a brilliant singer.

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Yeah.

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Like what you said to me earlier on today, there's got to be some feeling to the song

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right?

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Yeah, most definitely.

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There you go.

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And, and you do that and a diva is what?

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Someone who can really go at any genre.

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Like what you just said, you're a diva.

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Thank you Chris.

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Yeah and, and as I've said also to the rest of the guests that I've brought on the show

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for this tribute series, that I do not treat this tribute series likely, not likely at

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all because I really want to make sure that the people I bring on are people who truly

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are deserving of this and you're here and I'm very, I'm actually very chuffed and very

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proud the fact that you're seated next to me.

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Oh wow.

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Really, really I am and you said that you want to evolve, just like Madonna.

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Evolve through the times right?

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And I think I've seen part of that where you were concerned, but I want to bring up this

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interesting picture.

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Oh my gosh.

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So you're going back to almost the very beginning.

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I'm assuming that this is the very beginning.

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Kai, can we put out there you go.

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Oh my gosh.

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Oh my gosh.

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Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Aliyah D from God knows when.

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How old is this picture?

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How long ago is this?

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What year?

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Not that long.

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Really?

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It's not that long.

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You're shitting me.

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Come on.

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Okay.

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If you were to say this, no really this was 2014.

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Hello?

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10 years ago.

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Yeah.

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How can you say that wasn't long ago?

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Wasn't that long?

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2014.

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Look at that face though.

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I'm just want to ask you.

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It's 14.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Is that you're talking?

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No, no, no.

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Okay.

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My brother is a powder.

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Cause I've known this lips.

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Okay, I want to try that.

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How do you do that?

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How do you do that?

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How do you do that?

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You just chin down.

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Okay.

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Chin down.

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eyes on the camera.

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Okay.

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Pout a little bit.

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Yes.

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No, not that's too much.

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Just let your lips go.

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Um.

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Yeah.

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There you go.

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Don't um.

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Um.

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Yeah.

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Shucks. Okay, okay, okay.

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Kai, I'm sending this to you, Kai.

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Kai, I'm sending this to you.

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Hang on a second.

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Hang on a second.

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Really, really, really, really.

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I prepared all that stuff that you saw on screen, right?

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And you know what?

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I've been asking, why is this woman,

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why does she have that pouty lip thing?

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And I've been trying to do that shit.

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And unsuccessfully so.

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So I've just sent this to Kai.

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Let's put this up side by side.

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Oh, my God.

271
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Let's put it up side by side.

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Let me see whether I succeeded.

273
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No, no, no. I'm not going to pressure Kai

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because Kai is just going crazy doing this to me.

275
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Kai, if you see anything different,

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then I think you should edit it a little bit.

277
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Okay?

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Oh, my God.

279
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I was looking at that picture.

280
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But that's 10 years ago.

281
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Well, I got to admit though,

282
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when I saw that picture, I had to blink a few times

283
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because it didn't look like the Aaliyah I know.

284
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It doesn't at all.

285
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And if you say 10 years is not a long time,

286
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then really, there is a stark difference.

287
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Of course.

288
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I'm not saying you look worse now.

289
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I'm not saying that.

290
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I had to really decipher, is that a leo-dee?

291
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And that's why I picked that picture.

292
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Then of course I noticed.

293
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See? See?

294
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It was my picture.

295
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Pull my picture up.

296
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Almost there, bruh.

297
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What do you mean?

298
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Almost there.

299
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If you have thicker lips, then you know,

300
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you've got that angle.

301
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The angle a little bit.

302
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Your picture is up. Kai is...

303
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See? You know what I mean?

304
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The angle is there.

305
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Right? Look at the camera straight.

306
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And then you pout your lips,

307
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you go, um...

308
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There you go. See?

309
00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:21,400
So do you still do that kind of thing now?

310
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Yeah, of course. Especially if I want something

311
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from my husband.

312
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Like...

313
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It works all the time.

314
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Please don't teach my wife that.

315
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So when you...

316
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When you started...

317
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Let's go back to the very beginning,

318
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shall we? What year was...

319
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I mean, don't fuck the year.

320
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How old were you really?

321
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Your very first time that...

322
00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:49,400
Okay, my career started

323
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when I entered Asia Bagus.

324
00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,400
That was in the year

325
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God knows in heaven.

326
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I don't know.

327
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Whatever year it was.

328
00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:03,400
But it was a long time ago.

329
00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:05,400
I've always wanted to be a singer

330
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since I was a little girl.

331
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How old were you then for Asia Bagus?

332
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Asia Bagus, I was 15.

333
00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:13,400
Wow.

334
00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:15,400
15 years old. And...

335
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I got into the

336
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weekly champion.

337
00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:21,400
And then after that, the monthly champion.

338
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And then I went on to

339
00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:25,400
the grand finale, finals.

340
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But I lost on the grand finals.

341
00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,400
Who did you lose to?

342
00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:31,400
A Malaysian

343
00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:33,400
singer.

344
00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:35,400
Well, it's very

345
00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:37,400
Sayang that one, you know.

346
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Because...

347
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So Sayang.

348
00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:43,400
I could have won it, man.

349
00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:45,400
No, I mean...

350
00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:47,400
My ideas was fresh.

351
00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:49,400
Right.

352
00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,400
It's just that if I were to

353
00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:53,400
had

354
00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:55,400
more guidance

355
00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:57,400
or somebody to guided me through

356
00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,400
the competition,

357
00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:01,400
and advised me accordingly,

358
00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:03,400
I think I would have gone a little bit more further.

359
00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,400
Did that Malaysian winner,

360
00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:07,400
did he or she, was it he or she?

361
00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:09,400
He. Did he have any guidance

362
00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,400
that you're aware of?

363
00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:13,400
His performance

364
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was good and simple.

365
00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:17,400
And it was a

366
00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:19,400
very acceptable song.

367
00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,400
I think if I wasn't...

368
00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:23,400
If I'm not mistaken, he sang Heaven Knows.

369
00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,400
Everybody loved Heaven Knows.

370
00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,400
Yeah. So you know,

371
00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:29,400
a competition, okay.

372
00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,400
A singing competition.

373
00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:33,400
The most...

374
00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:35,400
Not the most, but the one of the important

375
00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:37,400
thing to do in a competition

376
00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:39,400
is picking the right song.

377
00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:41,400
For you.

378
00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:43,400
For your voice.

379
00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:45,400
For you. And not just because it's popular

380
00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:47,400
at that moment. And you think, you know,

381
00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:49,400
you're like, oh my god, this is like my favorite song.

382
00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:51,400
And then you want to sing for a competition.

383
00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:53,400
Can you do that again? Oh my god, this is like my favorite song.

384
00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,400
You know?

385
00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:57,400
So I did that.

386
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I love...

387
00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:01,400
So wait, the grand finals,

388
00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,400
I sang this song called

389
00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:05,400
Just One Of Them Days.

390
00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:07,400
What? Never heard of it, man.

391
00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,400
Okay. It's from a

392
00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:11,400
R&B singer.

393
00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:13,400
Monica.

394
00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:15,400
Okay.

395
00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:17,400
Now that song was very popular

396
00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:19,400
amongst young girls

397
00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:21,400
like me. At that time.

398
00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:23,400
Oh, so you were one of those gundus who went to pick a song

399
00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:25,400
that we shouldn't have picked.

400
00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:27,400
That song you can sing for a show

401
00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:29,400
can. But not for a competition.

402
00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,400
But you were 15 years old. I was 15 years old.

403
00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:33,400
I said, oh my god, I'm gonna nail

404
00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:35,400
this song. I feel

405
00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:37,400
it. Only when

406
00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:39,400
later on in life, when I actually read

407
00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:41,400
the song,

408
00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,400
the lyrics to the song, then I could understand

409
00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:45,400
and say, ah, no wonder I picked this song. Because

410
00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:47,400
the song is basically about PMS.

411
00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:49,400
You're PMSing.

412
00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:53,400
I'm serious.

413
00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:55,400
Just one of them days

414
00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,400
when I wanna be on my

415
00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:59,400
own. Just one of them days

416
00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:01,400
when I gotta be on

417
00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:03,400
my own. Don't take it

418
00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:05,400
personal.

419
00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:07,400
I just wanna be on

420
00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,400
my own. There's something like that. And then the background

421
00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,400
singers go, Kraaams, Kraaams.

422
00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:15,400
No, so but

423
00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:17,400
honestly, I picked that song.

424
00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:19,400
I love that song.

425
00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:21,400
But it was a very difficult song

426
00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,400
to sing. Especially

427
00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:25,400
the beginning, the intro to the song

428
00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:27,400
is acapella. Okay.

429
00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:29,400
So it just

430
00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:31,400
had

431
00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:33,400
I think a metronome or something

432
00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:35,400
going like

433
00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:37,400
Okay. So you have to know the

434
00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:39,400
beat to go in.

435
00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:41,400
The beat, never mind. The key also

436
00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:43,400
you have to start on the correct key.

437
00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:45,400
Of course. Right? Yeah.

438
00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:47,400
So just imagine I came out first

439
00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,400
when Najib and I think it was

440
00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,400
the Japanese girl

441
00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:53,400
introduced me. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

442
00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:55,400
From Singapore.

443
00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,400
Alia or something

444
00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,400
like that.

445
00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,400
So I came out. Terrible these people.

446
00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:03,400
Mispronounced your name. Alia.

447
00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,400
I came out. Right? Yeah.

448
00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:07,400
And I wore

449
00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:09,400
to me, I wore the most coolest outfit

450
00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:11,400
at that time. Because

451
00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:13,400
at that time TLC was

452
00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:15,400
waterfalls. Yeah, yeah. Waterfalls.

453
00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:17,400
So they had

454
00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,400
their boxers showing. Right.

455
00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,400
So that's what I had. I had baggy pants.

456
00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:23,400
Okay. I had my

457
00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:25,400
boxer Tommy Hilfiger boxers

458
00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:27,400
showing. And like a black

459
00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:29,400
and white bodysuit. And they

460
00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,400
I had short hair, but they

461
00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:33,400
actually tied my hair like very little.

462
00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:35,400
Like small, small. Like

463
00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,400
Coolio. Oh dear lord.

464
00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,400
Okay. So at 15

465
00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:41,400
you have your skin also

466
00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,400
not so good. Because you have like

467
00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,400
pimples popping out here and there. Right?

468
00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:47,400
So Japanese is known to have

469
00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:49,400
if you're at the age of 15, you don't wear

470
00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,400
a lot of makeup. Right.

471
00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:53,400
So they just make it more shinier.

472
00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:55,400
Right. You're already having

473
00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,400
oily skin. You put more

474
00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,400
shiny. And I'm like, why do I

475
00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,400
look like my mother's

476
00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:03,400
frying pan?

477
00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,400
You know? But okay la.

478
00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:07,400
So just never mind. My hair is

479
00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:09,400
all going up and down. You know, going

480
00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:11,400
like that. And I said, okay, never mind.

481
00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:13,400
I will woo them with my dance move.

482
00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,400
Because before I was a singer

483
00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,400
or got into

484
00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,400
singing, I was also a dancer.

485
00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,400
Is it? Yeah.

486
00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:23,400
So I came

487
00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:25,400
out and just

488
00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,400
rumba. Just rumba like that. You know?

489
00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:29,400
At the age of 15. Right.

490
00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:31,400
And then Najib's like

491
00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,400
wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I can remember this

492
00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,400
very clearly. Najib said, wait, wait, wait, wait.

493
00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:37,400
Can you do that again? And then

494
00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,400
he came in front of me. Najib's also

495
00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,400
great. You know, his

496
00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:43,400
ideas are also as

497
00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,400
very fresh. Okay. So he liked

498
00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:47,400
that idea of a 15 year old girl

499
00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:49,400
trying to be very trendy.

500
00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:51,400
I can feel it that he was

501
00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,400
rooting for me as well. Right.

502
00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,400
Right. So. Singaporean.

503
00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:57,400
Yeah. Right. But I

504
00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:59,400
think, no, no. He's like,

505
00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,400
he knows a talent when he sees one.

506
00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,400
Okay. You know? And I think he knew

507
00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,400
that this girl can make it.

508
00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,400
Okay. You know? Because I felt it.

509
00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,400
Every step of the way I

510
00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:11,400
felt when I get on stage, I felt it.

511
00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,400
You know, I said, I'm gonna woo these people.

512
00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:15,400
Okay. Right. So I did that, you know, thing

513
00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,400
and he asked me to do it again and then

514
00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,400
we did it together. I was like, whoo!

515
00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,400
Okay. That was it. So he said, okay.

516
00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,400
Are you ready? He says, yeah.

517
00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:25,400
So before that, they interviewed me a little bit

518
00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:27,400
and asking me because I have Indonesian

519
00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,400
blood. Right. Right. And the grand

520
00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,400
finals was in Indonesia. Right.

521
00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:33,400
So

522
00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,400
and I spoke a little bit of Bahasa.

523
00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,400
Right. And then

524
00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,400
after that, we started a song.

525
00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,400
I couldn't hear

526
00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:43,400
when to come in because

527
00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,400
it was held

528
00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,400
outdoors. Okay. Right.

529
00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,400
Thousands of people.

530
00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:51,400
And you couldn't hear the metronome. I couldn't hear.

531
00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,400
Right. I had,

532
00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,400
I was like, oh my god.

533
00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:57,400
I can't hear it. I can't. So

534
00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,400
I just wing it lah. Okay.

535
00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,400
Okay. So I went, just

536
00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,400
one of them days and I wanna

537
00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,400
be on my own. It went the wrong

538
00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,400
key. Oh no.

539
00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,400
So when the beat came in, yeah.

540
00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:11,400
It was not just one of

541
00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,400
them days. It was just one of them

542
00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,400
days. Oh dear.

543
00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,400
And then I was trying

544
00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,400
to adjust to the key.

545
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,400
But I couldn't hear it. So

546
00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,400
it was all over the place. Right.

547
00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,400
Right. From the beginning to the

548
00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,400
end. So a lot of things went wrong

549
00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,400
for you from the final. Totally wrong.

550
00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,400
So you said,

551
00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,400
only if you've got someone

552
00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,400
to have mentored

553
00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,400
you perhaps? Yes. Okay.

554
00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,400
So this is where I

555
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,400
will have to ask, did

556
00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,400
you ever, even after that,

557
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,400
have a mentor?

558
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,400
No.

559
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,400
But you knew. Only

560
00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,400
when I got into singing

561
00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,400
nightly.

562
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,400
Okay. Okay. And I'm a very

563
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,400
observant

564
00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,400
girl. Right.

565
00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,400
I have an eye for

566
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,400
performers. Okay.

567
00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:05,400
Okay. Not so much of singers.

568
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,400
But performers.

569
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,400
I wanted,

570
00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,400
I love watching people who control

571
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,400
the stage. Okay.

572
00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,400
They control the audience. And that's

573
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,400
where I

574
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,400
learn. Okay. And I was

575
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,400
lucky that I started

576
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,400
with a very

577
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,400
established band.

578
00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,400
And established a performer

579
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,400
who was my partner at that time.

580
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,400
And which band was this? This was

581
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,400
Raw Energy. Okay. Okay.

582
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,400
And

583
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,400
Raw Energy was

584
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,400
fronted by a male singer.

585
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,400
His name was Winslow.

586
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,400
Winslow. Okay. So Winslow is an

587
00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,400
American singer. A black

588
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,400
guy. And he, oh

589
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,400
can I say black guy? Yes of course you can.

590
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,400
African American. I mean

591
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,400
he's a black guy.

592
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,400
Yeah.

593
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,400
So he is

594
00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,400
the type of

595
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,400
performer that

596
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,400
when you're watching him, you're going

597
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,400
like this. Why?

598
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,400
Cause you wanna move. Oh

599
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,400
okay. You just wanna move. He's

600
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,400
like from the get

601
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,400
go to the end of the night.

602
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,400
Full of energy.

603
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,400
Full of energy. And it's raw energy.

604
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,400
Okay. Yeah. And he sings,

605
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,400
when he sings a song,

606
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,400
you can literally see

607
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,400
smoke

608
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,400
coming out from his back.

609
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,400
Steam? Yeah. Okay. You know?

610
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,400
That's how much energy

611
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,400
he has. Wow. He's very

612
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,400
disciplined. He doesn't drink.

613
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,400
He doesn't smoke. He

614
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,400
walks from home.

615
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,400
Well he was staying at that time I think

616
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,400
was at Caldecott Hill.

617
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,400
Not Caldecott Hill sorry. Sorry. The one

618
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,400
at the back of

619
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,400
Carpage Center.

620
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,400
What is it?

621
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,400
Oh. Kavanaugh. Kavanaugh.

622
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,400
Yeah. So he'll walk

623
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,400
from Kavanaugh Road all the way to

624
00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,400
Papa Joe's.

625
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,400
That's the first place I performed. Okay.

626
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,400
Papa Joe's. Yeah. Which is the old

627
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,400
Paranakan place. Yes. Right. Yeah.

628
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,400
So it was

629
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,400
just amazing to watch him perform.

630
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,400
You know? So I learned

631
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,400
so much from him. And he was looking for

632
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,400
a female singer at that time. Okay.

633
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,400
And

634
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,400
I happened to know him personally

635
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,400
because I was his backup dancer.

636
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,400
Right. Right. So whenever he does

637
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,400
shows, he will

638
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,400
always be backed up by two

639
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,400
or three or four

640
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,400
dancers. Right. So I was one of his

641
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,400
dancers. This is more like a show band.

642
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,400
No. This is when he does solo.

643
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,400
He does a lot of events doing solo.

644
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,400
Right. Right. So

645
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,400
he was the resident

646
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,400
band and he was also the entertainment

647
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,400
manager of Papa Joe's. Okay.

648
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,400
Okay. So he handles all

649
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,400
anything to do with entertainment.

650
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,400
Right. So he was looking

651
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,400
for a female singer and

652
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,400
at that time

653
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,400
I was jamming.

654
00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,400
Okay. Jamming. This is

655
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,400
this is way after Asia Baguiz.

656
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,400
Okay. Okay. And I was doing

657
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,400
little shows here and there. You know?

658
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,400
More to like

659
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,400
still stuck in that

660
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,400
alley where you wanna go. Yo

661
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,400
what's up? You know? All that

662
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,400
feeling, feeling. Cause I was very

663
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,400
I was like very into

664
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,400
hip hop music,

665
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,400
R&B music, you know? But you were

666
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,400
always dying to somehow

667
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,400
get this into your system. Yes.

668
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,400
Into your life. Yes. Perform.

669
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,400
How old were you when you first

670
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,400
recognized that this is what

671
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,400
you want?

672
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,400
I'm jumping a little bit.

673
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,400
I'm sorry. School.

674
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,400
School? Yeah. If you

675
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,400
meet any of my primary

676
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,400
primary school. Primary school?

677
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,400
Primary school. Okay. And I think that

678
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,400
I was before primary school so I was

679
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,400
still I wanted to be a singer because

680
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,400
I remember at 10 years old

681
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,400
my parents brought me to

682
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,400
Changi Europa.

683
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,400
And there's this

684
00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,400
another club called

685
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,400
And they let you in? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

686
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,400
Some Katong club.

687
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,400
Katong?

688
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,400
In Katong. Oh, Honky Tonk.

689
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,400
Yes.

690
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,400
My dad will bring me to Honky Tonk.

691
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,400
Put me and my sister up on stage.

692
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,400
And I remember we will sing this

693
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,400
either

694
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,400
I'm so young and you're so

695
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,400
old. This much. Yeah.

696
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,400
Diana because that's my mom's name. Right.

697
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,400
Right. Sing Diana

698
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,400
or dreams.

699
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,400
Dreams. Dreams. We were so young.

700
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,400
10 years old. Right?

701
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,400
Then Changi Europa also

702
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,400
I went on stage and sang Right Here

703
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,400
Waiting for You. Oh. You know? Richard

704
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,400
Marx. Yeah. And I was singing together

705
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,400
with who? Adam and Ben.

706
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,400
Oh. Okay.

707
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,400
I tell you the

708
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,400
history of all this and then when I became

709
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,400
an established performer

710
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,400
I worked with all these

711
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,400
people.

712
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,400
And I it was just

713
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,400
amazing and I started to like

714
00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,400
From the time you were a small little girl

715
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,400
you end up working

716
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,400
with these guys. Working with them.

717
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,400
These guys were juggernauts man. Yeah.

718
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,400
You know and then I could

719
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,400
of course I cannot call them uncle anymore.

720
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,400
You know? I'll call them by their names.

721
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,400
And then of course. Next time I see

722
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,400
Stephen Francis I'll call him uncle.

723
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,400
Hahaha.

724
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,400
You know me and Stephen Bra

725
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,400
is bruh. What's up bruh?

726
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,400
Hahaha.

727
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,400
But yeah. So

728
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,400
yeah. So it was

729
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,400
at the age of 10 years old.

730
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,400
Because my household was

731
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,400
always music singing.

732
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,400
How so? How so? I mean I'm trying to

733
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,400
understand that bit.

734
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,400
How so? I mean in your household.

735
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,400
In your household. Your mom?

736
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,400
Dad? My dad. My dad.

737
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,400
My dad was

738
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,400
I wouldn't say muso

739
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,400
but he was

740
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,400
his younger years he was hanging

741
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,400
a lot with bands like

742
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,400
Flybates and all that. Wow.

743
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,400
So jamming with them and all. He's always

744
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,400
into music also.

745
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,400
So he was into music.

746
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,400
And then every time in the

747
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,400
house there had been music playing

748
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,400
somehow. Yes. Exactly

749
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,400
at 5pm.

750
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,400
This is the time where we have

751
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,400
tea time at home. Hmm.

752
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,400
So during tea time mom

753
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,400
Quite a Eurasian thing. Yes.

754
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,400
Eurasian household.

755
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,400
My father is half Eurasian right?

756
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,400
So my grandma will make

757
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,400
and my mom will prepare

758
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,400
coffee, tea or whatever.

759
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,400
All this you know. And then

760
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,400
dad will either take the guitar

761
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,400
or go to the organ.

762
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,400
Not piano

763
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,400
not keyboards. Organ.

764
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,400
Okay. And then he will play.

765
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,400
And then he say

766
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,400
come. And then he

767
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,400
will say he'll play a song

768
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,400
and then he will sing it and we

769
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,400
will listen. We will not listen to his

770
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,400
singing. We will listen to

771
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,400
the words of the song.

772
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,400
The lyrics. Yeah. The lyrics of

773
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,400
the song because every song he

774
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,400
always tells us, every song has a story.

775
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,400
If the story captures

776
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,400
your heart, you'll be able to

777
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,400
relate and you'll be able

778
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,400
to deliver

779
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,400
it well. Hmm. Hmm.

780
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,400
So the song that really caught

781
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,400
my attention was

782
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,400
Tommy and

783
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,400
the lovers

784
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,400
na na na na get everything

785
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,400
and buy flowers, presents

786
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,400
and most of all a wedding

787
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,400
ring. You know. I

788
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,400
would ask him to sing it over and over

789
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,400
right. And every time

790
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,400
he sings it, I love it. And every time he

791
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,400
sings it, I will cry. Hmm.

792
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,400
And then my sister and my brother

793
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,400
will have the kick out of watching me cry.

794
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,400
He says again again.

795
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,400
Again again. You know.

796
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,400
So yeah. So we were always

797
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,400
and then he will ask us to practice

798
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,400
songs. He will say okay I'll play

799
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,400
this song you learn okay. You know.

800
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,400
So then we'll always have that.

801
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,400
Safe to say then that

802
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,400
influence was your dad in the home.

803
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,400
Yes. Yeah. Why I asked this

804
00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,400
and I asked this of every one of

805
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,400
my guests on

806
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,400
my tribute show. And

807
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,400
everyone says that.

808
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,400
It starts, started

809
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,400
from the home. Yeah. Except

810
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,400
for Danny Lung.

811
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,400
Oh really ah. Yeah. Except for

812
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,400
Danny. Watch the episode when it comes out.

813
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,400
It's really interesting. It's the only one

814
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,400
that's different. Okay. But

815
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,400
from Muso's I'm talking about. I'm not talking about the radio

816
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,400
DJ's because I've got radio DJ's

817
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,400
on the show as well. Sure. Okay.

818
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,400
But to be fair

819
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,400
one of them did

820
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,400
say that the influence came from the home.

821
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,400
And it's

822
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,400
always about that. I think for most

823
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,400
people. Yeah. It's really

824
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,400
I'm trying to find

825
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,400
out what makes a

826
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,400
great Muso

827
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,400
or entertainer tick. You know how

828
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,400
did it all happen. The origin

829
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,400
of it all. And it's

830
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,400
really the home. Yeah. Nine out of ten

831
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,400
so far. It is from the home.

832
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,400
You know. And I think that's

833
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,400
a pretty cool thing.

834
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,400
Also one more thing.

835
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,400
Besides

836
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,400
having lots of influence from

837
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,400
home. Yeah. You daydream.

838
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,400
Okay.

839
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,400
Can you daydream? Expound

840
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,400
on that. So when you

841
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,400
have music inside

842
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,400
it makes your heart

843
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,400
in a certain way. You know. And

844
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,400
then you just feel it. And then

845
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,400
also you're influenced by all this

846
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,400
when you

847
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,400
hear a song you want to know who's the singer.

848
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,400
You see who the singer is. You want to see them

849
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,400
perform. Right. And back in

850
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,400
the day they don't have like

851
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,400
you have only certain time

852
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,400
only certain channel TV Tiga. I think

853
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,400
they'll have MTV. Right.

854
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,400
And then you

855
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,400
are only able to catch a glimpse of those

856
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,400
performances. And then

857
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,400
I get the kick

858
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,400
of watching live shows.

859
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,400
You know. Live performances

860
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,400
from Elvis to

861
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,400
sometimes they have like

862
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,400
back in the day you know they bring

863
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,400
all the old songs. The retro stuff come back.

864
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,400
Yeah. And then you watch wow.

865
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,400
So amazing. You know.

866
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,400
So then you daydream.

867
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,400
Yeah. You doing it instead right?

868
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,400
You're like oh I want to be this person.

869
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,400
Yeah. Yeah. I knew it. Oh hell yeah.

870
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,400
When you be this person you cannot sing

871
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,400
also you take the microphone or

872
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,400
not microphone. What?

873
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,400
For me it was comb.

874
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,400
Comb. Right.

875
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,400
Brush. Take brush.

876
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,400
Stand in front of the mirror.

877
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,400
Just like wow. Dance

878
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,400
and sing. You know. You know it's so

879
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,400
weird. You know that thing about taking the brush

880
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,400
and just comb comb brush right.

881
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,400
I used to do stupid

882
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,400
things like that too. I'm sure.

883
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,400
And you know why. I have this

884
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,400
real fetish.

885
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,400
Fetish. No really.

886
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,400
I have this real fetish.

887
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,400
About microphones man.

888
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,400
It doesn't sound fucking right right.

889
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,400
Fetish. About microphones.

890
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,400
Okay.

891
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,400
Well this doesn't sound right.

892
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,400
Let me

893
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,400
let me qualify.

894
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,400
I have this thing about

895
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,400
microphones and that's why

896
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,400
I buy mics and I keep buying

897
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,400
mics and I even got one in the arm.

898
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,400
You know. I walk around

899
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,400
with a microphone. It's a thing.

900
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,400
Holding on

901
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,400
to a mic. Yeah. It's something

902
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,400
from young you want to do.

903
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,400
Mimic someone. You just get the mic

904
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,400
and then you just go like that.

905
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,400
You know. Yeah.

906
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,400
I can completely

907
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,400
understand that and appreciate that.

908
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,400
You know and to this day to

909
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,400
me when I see anywhere

910
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,400
God even on Shopee.

911
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,400
I see mics

912
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,400
on OJPO and

913
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,400
on this one.

914
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,400
Wow. You know. Yeah.

915
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,400
And it still gets to me man. It's a thing

916
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,400
that I just cannot explain.

917
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,400
Yes. Yeah. And I

918
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,400
appreciate what you just said very much.

919
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,400
So influence came

920
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,400
for you also.

921
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,400
From the home. Yes.

922
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,400
And then

923
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,400
did you did your

924
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,400
folks ever tell you

925
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,400
either one.

926
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,400
No. Don't be. Don't do this.

927
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,400
Never. Really.

928
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,400
My dad calls me my

929
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,400
little Madonna. Wow.

930
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,400
And he used. He travels

931
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,400
a lot. My dad. Yeah. Yeah. And he'll

932
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,400
always write love letters

933
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,400
to each and every one of us.

934
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,400
That's so sweet. One for mommy.

935
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,400
One for Angie. One for

936
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,400
Aliyah. One for Niko.

937
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,400
One for

938
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,400
Auntie Dinah. You know. That's really sweet.

939
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,400
And yeah. And then by the way

940
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,400
I always say this to mama which is

941
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,400
my grandma. Right.

942
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,400
So because mama couldn't read. Right.

943
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,400
So he has letters for us

944
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,400
every. When he was away for

945
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,400
for months.

946
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,400
Months. Months. You know.

947
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,400
He was away for months and then he'll write letters

948
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,400
and telling us about blah blah blah.

949
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,400
And he'll always sign off.

950
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,400
Oh he always

951
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,400
addressed me as

952
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,400
my little Madonna.

953
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,400
You know.

954
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,400
And he always says that how

955
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,400
are you still listening

956
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,400
to this this this this. You know.

957
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,400
And then he'll go but don't forget

958
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,400
your studies. Of course parents are your parents.

959
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,400
Right. And then he

960
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,400
but he always tells me I was

961
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,400
not very academically strong.

962
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,400
Right. Right. And he knew that.

963
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,400
You know. And he'll after he passed

964
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,400
away. Yeah.

965
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,400
My mom showed me a letter that he

966
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,400
wrote to her.

967
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,400
That said that if Aliyah

968
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,400
does not do well

969
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,400
for her studies this

970
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,400
year. Don't be too

971
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,400
hard on her.

972
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,400
Wow.

973
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,400
She has. She has

974
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,400
a lot of other

975
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,400
capabilities and abilities.

976
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,400
You know. And coming from

977
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,400
a dad means a lot. Oh yeah.

978
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,400
You know. Especially from dads.

979
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,400
Yes. I mean.

980
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,400
Nico and Angie which is my siblings.

981
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,400
Both of them. Both of them

982
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,400
have studied. I

983
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,400
you know. They kind of

984
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,400
I'm like no. I'm from the get go.

985
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,400
I'm like music. Music. Music.

986
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,400
Everything music. And I was always the one

987
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,400
who plans to

988
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,400
like there's birthdays. There's Christmas.

989
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,400
Hari Raya.

990
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,400
Anniversaries.

991
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,400
All the

992
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,400
celebration when we have gatherings

993
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,400
at home. There's always

994
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,400
the S5 is always performing.

995
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,400
S5S is for Sharma.

996
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,400
Okay. Which is our surname.

997
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,400
So it's like the Jackson 5.

998
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,400
Yes. We call ourselves the S5.

999
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,400
And

1000
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,400
we will say

1001
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,400
okay later

1002
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,400
we have performance okay.

1003
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,400
And then all the older folks

1004
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,400
will be like okay okay okay.

1005
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,400
We practice first.

1006
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,400
So we go inside the room. Lock the

1007
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,400
door. And I'll be like okay

1008
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,400
you stand here you stand here you stand here you stand here okay.

1009
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,400
Alright. This part okay. We move

1010
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,400
left left.

1011
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,400
Right. I will organize everything.

1012
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,400
Right. Okay. And then we'll pick the song.

1013
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,400
And then we'll perform. Wow.

1014
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,400
Beach Boys. Beach Boys

1015
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,400
la. Our song was Coco

1016
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,400
Mo.

1017
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,400
Coco Mo.

1018
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,400
Jason Donovan and Kylie Minogue.

1019
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,400
Especially for you.

1020
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,400
Yeah that. It was just like

1021
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,400
shows all the way.

1022
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,400
So I knew that this

1023
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,400
is really me man.

1024
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,400
You know. So.

1025
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,400
And you pursued it. Yeah.

1026
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,400
It started at Papa Joe's.

1027
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,400
Right.

1028
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,400
And what happened from Papa Joe's

1029
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,400
what happened I mean how did you progress on?

1030
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,400
Okay.

1031
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,400
I was very young right. 18.

1032
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,400
I started 17.

1033
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,400
17. Still underage

1034
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,400
at that time to go into clubs. But I was

1035
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,400
going to be 18.

1036
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,400
But still 18 was still

1037
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,400
for guys cannot go to clubs. Girls can.

1038
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,400
Yes I know. Right.

1039
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,400
So Papa Joe's

1040
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,400
from Papa Joe's

1041
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,400
can you just

1042
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,400
imagine when I got into the band

1043
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,400
of course the musicians were

1044
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,400
not happy la.

1045
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,400
Musicians were not happy because

1046
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,400
this is

1047
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,400
established

1048
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,400
musicians. Right. They got no time

1049
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,400
for bullshit. They have no time

1050
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,400
for young girls

1051
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,400
who don't know how to sing properly. Only know how to

1052
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:19,400
gilet. Right. You know.

1053
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,400
That was the assumption la. Yeah. You know.

1054
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,400
And then

1055
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,400
so they came to they told Winslow

1056
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,400
straight up they said it's her

1057
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,400
or us. Wow.

1058
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,400
Then what happened?

1059
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,400
And Winslow just said

1060
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,400
I'm sorry for you all to feel that way.

1061
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,400
You guys can leave.

1062
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,400
So the whole band left.

1063
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,400
So he actually made

1064
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,400
that choice. Yeah. So obviously

1065
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,400
people may think

1066
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,400
this one was

1067
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,400
giji giji

1068
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,400
with the singer. You know that kind of thing.

1069
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,400
Right. But I was

1070
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,400
a young girl and I was so like you know like

1071
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,400
and I felt hurt.

1072
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,400
Right. I said Wins

1073
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,400
I can go. Keep the guys.

1074
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,400
You know keep the guys. And he says

1075
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,400
no. And he says it's hard

1076
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,400
to find

1077
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,400
it's easy to find singers

1078
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,400
but it's hard to find entertainers.

1079
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,400
Wow. You can be an

1080
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,400
entertainer. Right. So

1081
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,400
would you care to

1082
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,400
maybe you know dissect that

1083
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,400
a little bit for the non-muso

1084
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,400
audience watching the show? Yeah. Okay.

1085
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,400
There's a difference between a singer and an entertainer.

1086
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,400
Okay. A singer

1087
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,400
they're technically

1088
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,400
fantastic. They

1089
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,400
pay close attention to technicality.

1090
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,400
Right. Breathing.

1091
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,400
Right. Okay. And

1092
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,400
it's like

1093
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,400
you you you they can do

1094
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,400
like you know

1095
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,400
and all that stuff. Okay.

1096
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,400
But an entertainer you put that

1097
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,400
person anywhere and everywhere

1098
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,400
they

1099
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,400
will be able to perform.

1100
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,400
Any song. Right. So basically

1101
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,400
someone who's technical

1102
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,400
care about your scores

1103
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,400
care about everything else that makes

1104
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,400
up a performance. Yes.

1105
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,400
But the entertainer is a person

1106
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,400
that cares more about the audience.

1107
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,400
Yes. You have to

1108
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,400
because they are the ones who are watching you.

1109
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,400
If they're happy you're happy.

1110
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,400
Right. You know funny you

1111
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,400
said you mentioned I wanted to do

1112
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,400
this later on in this part

1113
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,400
of the show. Okay. But since you

1114
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,400
brought it up.

1115
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,400
Runs.

1116
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,400
What are runs?

1117
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,400
What are runs? Vocal runs.

1118
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,400
Okay stop there. Okay.

1119
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,400
Okay. Because I have

1120
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,400
always hated that shit.

1121
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,400
I brought something ready. Kai

1122
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,400
you know the whole assortment

1123
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,400
the samples file?

1124
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,400
I just want to ask

1125
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,400
you the Diva

1126
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,400
since you.. Okay. You listen to it.

1127
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,400
Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait.

1128
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,400
That was a premature thing.

1129
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,400
Kai you're too young to be premature that way.

1130
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,400
So

1131
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,400
Okay listen to this.

1132
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:07,400
Yes it shows

1133
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:11,400
Okay, and then now we're going to have this one, okay? Listen to this one.

1134
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:22,400
I keep on falling here

1135
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:29,400
And I love with you

1136
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,400
And then comes this one

1137
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:36,400
Girl I know you really love me

1138
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:41,400
You just don't realize

1139
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,400
You've never been there before

1140
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:50,400
It's only your first time

1141
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:55,400
Maybe I'll give you

1142
00:41:55,400 --> 00:42:00,400
Maybe you'll try

1143
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:04,400
We shouldn't be happy together forever

1144
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,400
You and I

1145
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:11,400
We'll be together forever

1146
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:17,400
We'll be together forever

1147
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:25,400
Reason why I brought this up because you said the word runs vocal runs right heart teller gives me the damn runs

1148
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:29,400
And I can see you were completely sorry fucking enjoying that

1149
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:37,400
It's not I'm not saying it's not nice. I'm just saying it's all over the fucking place. Yeah, everyone at that time at that time

1150
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:41,400
Was doing it then it and these were the old well

1151
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:49,400
Well, Mariah is not young from Mariah to Alicia Keys into of course the old old now boys to men

1152
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:56,400
And then it went on to the Timberlakes into you know, and then my god, I mean and what's the name now?

1153
00:42:56,400 --> 00:43:03,400
There's Brittany and there's no Brittany doesn't do that. What's the other girl now? Jeannie in the bottle?

1154
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:08,400
Christina Aguilera. Thank you very much. Christina Aguilera. I'm seeing getting old.

1155
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:14,400
So it transcended down to these people and every time you hear a freaking song back in the day

1156
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:19,400
So many runs going on man. I mean then it's a trend kind of thing

1157
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:27,400
You know, but you've really got really annoying as far as I'm concerned. Right? And what technicality you talking about? I think it's so

1158
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:34,400
I think I understand what you mean. Okay, but

1159
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:43,400
Okay, what was your question? No, it's not a question. I'm just making a point. Okay, and I'm wondering whether or not you got anything to say about whether I share the same sentiment

1160
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:50,400
Yeah. Okay for me. They do it because they can. Right. And

1161
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:58,400
Don't believe I'm hearing that. Really honestly, they do it because they can. Okay. And this is the same

1162
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:10,400
I asked myself, how the hell do they do that? And I try some people want it all. I can't do it.

1163
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:19,400
You can't? I can't. I don't have that runs. My husband can do it. My husband's a singer. Right. He can do runs like boys to men like

1164
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:33,400
You know all this. And I was telling him I've been a singer longer than he has. Right. And I said, darling, I cannot do that. He said you can. I said, I cannot. He said, no, you can. You really can't.

1165
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:45,400
He tells me that I can do it when I don't realize it. When I feel it and I sing certain songs

1166
00:44:45,400 --> 00:45:03,400
I'll be able to do it. Okay. You know, I said, oh, okay. So my take is this. They do it not because they want to flex. Okay. Okay. They do it because they were influenced by singers who did it like gospel singers.

1167
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:22,400
You know, a lot of gospel singers do that. Okay. Right. Black gospel music. Yes. Okay. So when they grow up in that kind of environment, right, it's always they follow

1168
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:41,400
the singers that they hear. I just got too overbearing man because everywhere you go, you hear the same thing. Yes. For me, for me personally, if you ask me, Mariah Carey when she sings that song, you know, runs like

1169
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:45,980
a

1170
00:45:45,980 --> 00:46:04,400
certain songs of Mariah I love. Okay. Certain songs. Whitney doesn't really do it. No. Exactly. Because she is, it's a style. It's a style that they're going for. You know, Britney Spears. She don't do it. It's because probably she can't do it. Yeah. Right. She can't do it. And she's more of, more of like,

1171
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:19,400
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, it's everybody's style. Yeah, I know. Since we're still on styling, Kai, can we just play, let's move on a little bit. This is what I've realized.

1172
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:47,400
Sometimes it hurts instead. Listen to instead at the end. The word instead. Okay, hang on. Here's the next one coming up soon. I think it should be. Yeah. You heard the word how she said instead now. Listen to the next one.

1173
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:36,400
So now, if you, that's Billie Eilish. Yes. So Adele earlier on, there's a styling these days, especially for female vocalists, where they take that last note, it depends on the word, and they go,

1174
00:47:36,400 --> 00:48:01,400
What? Aide. Aide. Yeah. You know, and then there's this little, at the end, you know, of the note. And I tell you, I'm like, okay, okay. But Adele came out to me, okay, that's her style. Unique to her. Then after that, I heard, I hear Katy Perry, and she does that. And then I hear Billie Eilish, and she does that. I say, what the heck?

1175
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:29,400
It's a trend. Oh gosh. You know, remember where back in, I don't know, they have this singer who sings everything like, how do they sing it? Time, flying, all the, all the, when they articulate the words, it's always like very safe. Give me a song.

1176
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,400
Yeah, what?

1177
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:59,400
Someday time and come someday. You know what I mean? I don't know what the hell I'm singing. I hear this singer a few, like a month, a couple of months later, there's another singer who sings the same thing. So it's a trend. Same thing for rap music. Back in our days.

1178
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:22,400
When rap was rap. Yeah. You know, when you have like, the rap, it's, you can understand because you pronounce it correctly. Although it's like a lot of MF, MF words and all that, right? Today, they still do the MF word. But it's the way the rap music now is going like.

1179
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:46,400
I'm like, huh? Yeah. You don't get it, right? I don't get it. You know, you know, that's, I tell you, you know, when my boy, when the Mrs. was expecting my son, we always did this. We had, we put headphones on her tummy.

1180
00:49:46,400 --> 00:50:11,400
Okay. When he was still in her tummy. Okay. And we played stuff. We played all kinds of stuff. We played from Guns N' Roses to jazz to whatever. Yeah. In my hope that of course music helps with the development of creativity, blah, blah, blah. And then when he was born and as a boos, he was growing up, especially when he was much younger.

1181
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:25,400
And he would be listening to my stuff, of course, because he has no control over the music, right? Yes. And guess what? He's coming 15 now. He has come into himself. Right. And of course, naturally we let that happen as well.

1182
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:43,400
Naturally. Guess who is his go-to singer and he's so nuts over him. Absolutely Gaga over this star. Make a guess.

1183
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:47,400
Don't tell me.

1184
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:49,400
That boy, that boy.

1185
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:55,400
He hates, no, no, no, no, not the Bieber. Okay. I don't even know. He hates the Bieber. Thank God for that.

1186
00:50:55,400 --> 00:51:04,400
What genre? Hip hop. Oh, hip hop. Oh, not Kanye? Yes.

1187
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,760
And I was like, what?

1188
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:08,400
And then he said something a couple of days ago.

1189
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:10,440
I said, my goodness, if you were not my son,

1190
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:11,680
I would have strangled you.

1191
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,380
He said, he's bigger than Elvis.

1192
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:16,880
No.

1193
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:19,800
He did not say.

1194
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:21,380
In my house.

1195
00:51:21,380 --> 00:51:23,380
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

1196
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:25,280
Ay yo yo.

1197
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:27,160
And he's so crazy about this.

1198
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:28,560
He wants to save money on his own.

1199
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:29,400
He's a great at that.

1200
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:30,240
Yeah, yeah.

1201
00:51:30,240 --> 00:51:32,400
Otherwise, I mean, kid's a great kid, yeah.

1202
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:34,520
And he says, daddy, guess what?

1203
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:36,600
Anything that's got to do with Kanye will tell me,

1204
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:38,960
daddy, Kanye's gonna drop his son,

1205
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:40,000
latest album.

1206
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:41,680
That was a couple of days ago.

1207
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:43,960
And I said, he's not going to, he's just gonna,

1208
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:44,800
he's just gonna.

1209
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:45,640
He's just gonna drop.

1210
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:47,760
Cause this guy's a bit of another.

1211
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,040
Yeah, but daddy, that's why he sells,

1212
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:51,360
cause he's a nutter.

1213
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:52,960
I said, are you kidding me, man?

1214
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,160
And then after that, it really didn't drop.

1215
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:57,080
I said, I told you, I told you, I told you.

1216
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:57,920
And it did the next day.

1217
00:51:57,920 --> 00:51:58,880
He said, guess what?

1218
00:51:58,880 --> 00:51:59,720
He dropped it.

1219
00:51:59,720 --> 00:52:00,560
Yes.

1220
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:02,040
See, he does that shit all the time.

1221
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:02,880
He says, he's a nutcase.

1222
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:03,720
Why do you like him?

1223
00:52:03,720 --> 00:52:06,280
And he steals people's music, man.

1224
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:11,280
He takes Chaka Khan's Suda Fire and make it his?

1225
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:12,800
Are you shitting me?

1226
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:15,560
That's not the only damn song he's done, right?

1227
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:17,800
And he said, but his lyrics are brilliant, daddy.

1228
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:19,680
I mean, he's a genius.

1229
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:22,800
I, okay.

1230
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:27,280
Maybe on a hip hop point of view, kids, especially,

1231
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:30,400
okay, like say kids who love hip hop music,

1232
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:33,720
they listen, like us, when we have,

1233
00:52:33,720 --> 00:52:37,240
we see us, we hear a song, we listen to the lyrics, right?

1234
00:52:37,240 --> 00:52:38,080
Right.

1235
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:38,920
Okay.

1236
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:40,960
Although hip hop has a lot of swearing

1237
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:45,600
and a lot of cursing and a lot of sexual content, right?

1238
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:50,600
Some rap music has got hidden meaning, right?

1239
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:57,080
And these days, we have social media,

1240
00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:02,080
when you have what some theory of, you know,

1241
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:06,280
conspiracy theory and all that, you put that all together.

1242
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:09,800
And then you have it, you put a picture of this artist,

1243
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:13,000
say for example, Kanye West, and then the song comes out,

1244
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:16,560
people, kids, younger generation, they're like,

1245
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:19,560
oh, I got what you mean, bruh.

1246
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:20,400
Yeah.

1247
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:24,960
You know, they suddenly understand, you know?

1248
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:28,880
And I try to do the same thing when Taylor Swift,

1249
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:32,880
with this Taylor Swift person, I mean,

1250
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:37,000
I listen to her songs, I really genuinely want to-

1251
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:37,840
Enjoy it.

1252
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:38,680
Enjoy it.

1253
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:42,160
I really want to, because she's a pop singer.

1254
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:43,800
Yeah, she's huge now, man.

1255
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:46,480
Right, she's a pop singer, I like pop music a lot, right?

1256
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:48,920
So I'm like, okay, I wanna know what's so cool.

1257
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:51,040
It's this draw about Taylor Swift, yeah.

1258
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:54,120
Certain songs, okay, I think it's cute, you know?

1259
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:56,520
Right, but it doesn't move me.

1260
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:57,360
Yeah.

1261
00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:01,160
And these young kids are going crazy.

1262
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:05,480
Yes, absolutely, they're going gaga over this, you know?

1263
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:06,320
You know?

1264
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:09,280
I just don't get it, I really don't get it.

1265
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:14,560
You know, let's put it, for example, Lady Gaga.

1266
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:16,640
Right, just the way I say gaga.

1267
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:21,160
When she came out, right, a lot of people say,

1268
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:23,800
this lady is crazy, her music's on.

1269
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,360
She's a bloody genius.

1270
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:27,200
Fantastic.

1271
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:28,680
Freaking genius.

1272
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,680
Fantastic, the way she thinks, the way she,

1273
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:36,160
you can really feel, you know?

1274
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:39,240
That this artist really deserves, you know,

1275
00:54:39,240 --> 00:54:42,560
all the recognition, you know, whatever that she was,

1276
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:45,560
you know, this is all marketing, you know?

1277
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:47,360
Marketing, when you have to wear this,

1278
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:49,280
you have to do that, you have to blah, blah, blah.

1279
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:53,760
So she's called, she created this whole followers.

1280
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:54,600
Right.

1281
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:59,480
Right, and then she knows that, okay, my time is up.

1282
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:03,520
This generation that I'm doing, my followers,

1283
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:05,120
they are also evolving.

1284
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:08,720
So I have to change, and this is me,

1285
00:55:08,720 --> 00:55:12,240
because I'm changing, and my followers are changing,

1286
00:55:12,240 --> 00:55:13,440
and then they pop.

1287
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:18,440
She does a hit song, or she does a duet with a jazz performer.

1288
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:22,720
For stars, yeah.

1289
00:55:22,720 --> 00:55:25,600
For stars, and then people was like, wow, you know,

1290
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:27,520
she's not just, she's serious.

1291
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:29,800
This lady is a serious performer.

1292
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:34,360
Yeah, I mean, look, I mean, we grew up in times

1293
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:39,360
where we had, oh man, it's so missed, guys like Prince,

1294
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:41,280
you know?

1295
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:43,800
I mean, that guy is a one-man band,

1296
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:45,720
and he's a one-man recording studio.

1297
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:49,120
When he gets behind the guitar,

1298
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:50,840
or any instrument, he cranks it away.

1299
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:52,720
I mean, that guy is brilliant.

1300
00:55:52,720 --> 00:55:56,120
And now we look at the likes of what's happening today,

1301
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:59,000
and we have Taylor Swift, and not be distilling her,

1302
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,760
but frankly, she's all right, she's okay, you know?

1303
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:03,240
She's not like, wow.

1304
00:56:03,240 --> 00:56:08,240
Yeah, they're saying her lyrics of a song

1305
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:13,400
is relatable to the younger generation.

1306
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:15,040
So that's why it doesn't move us,

1307
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:17,920
because we don't understand what you mean.

1308
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:18,880
Why so emo?

1309
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:21,280
I mean, your emo and our emo back then

1310
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:22,440
is totally different, man.

1311
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:23,920
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1312
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:26,520
Ours was more about, let's get down this party,

1313
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:28,800
let's move, let's groove, let's, you know?

1314
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:31,640
And now everything is just so different.

1315
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:32,840
Yeah, I just don't, I'm sorry,

1316
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:36,160
but I'm finding it so hard to relate

1317
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:39,400
to the current music of today.

1318
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:43,080
And if you were to be asked, I mean,

1319
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:45,680
I know you're no longer in nightlife, right?

1320
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:46,520
No, no.

1321
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:48,920
How many years has that been since you stopped?

1322
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:53,480
2015 was my last, 2015, 2016.

1323
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:55,560
It was almost 10 years, yeah?

1324
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:59,680
So can you care to share why did you stop?

1325
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:00,520
I knew there was this-

1326
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:01,480
Something you love, you know?

1327
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:03,240
Yeah, this was coming, and-

1328
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:06,120
It's an obvious question.

1329
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:10,160
A lot of people was also wondering why, you know?

1330
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:11,720
Suddenly just go on, you know?

1331
00:57:11,720 --> 00:57:13,000
But they're still wondering.

1332
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:18,000
Well, you know, when you get on stage every single night

1333
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:28,320
and you love doing what you do, right?

1334
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:32,680
That's the time when you know that you gotta keep on going.

1335
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:36,000
But when a time where you drag yourself to work

1336
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:41,760
and you look at the surroundings, your life, your family,

1337
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:44,760
it's not the way it needs to be.

1338
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:48,720
That you need to be present in their life

1339
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:51,560
in order for things to work out.

1340
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:53,160
You need to do some sacrifices.

1341
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:56,240
So now you're saying that music,

1342
00:57:56,240 --> 00:58:00,560
since you were a young child, was so important to you.

1343
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:01,520
Yes.

1344
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:04,760
So much so that you really went all out there

1345
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:06,600
to get you to where you've been.

1346
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:07,520
Yeah.

1347
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:11,120
And then now something else supersedes

1348
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:12,360
that passion.

1349
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:13,320
Yes.

1350
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:14,160
Let's put it this way.

1351
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:15,080
And that is family.

1352
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:20,080
Yes. I mean, you have a dream to be a performer.

1353
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:21,680
You did it, okay?

1354
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:26,200
And then you have a dream to be an entertainer

1355
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:27,960
and a performer. You did it.

1356
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:31,720
And then you have a dream of cutting an album,

1357
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:35,040
doing, you know, traveling the world,

1358
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:37,600
like people watching your concert.

1359
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:39,200
I never got to that.

1360
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:40,040
Yeah.

1361
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:43,480
Okay. I never got to that because of a lot of aspect,

1362
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:48,480
a lot being in Singapore, being in,

1363
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:50,880
I would say every performer

1364
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:57,000
have to be lucky.

1365
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,480
You must have, you need to have luck,

1366
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:02,520
a little bit of luck, a lot of,

1367
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:05,040
a little bit of luck, a little bit of talent,

1368
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:08,920
a little bit of, what do you call it?

1369
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:10,200
Perseverance.

1370
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:11,400
Perseverance, okay.

1371
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:14,480
So you have this, you'll be able to do it.

1372
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:15,320
Okay.

1373
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:18,720
But if you don't have that luck, right?

1374
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:21,120
Then you still have this too.

1375
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:22,440
And you're happy with that.

1376
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:25,600
But then you also have a life to go on, right?

1377
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:27,160
So look at something else.

1378
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:28,000
Okay.

1379
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:29,240
Right? You still got that.

1380
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:32,600
God gave you that talent, you know,

1381
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:35,920
but he didn't give you the opportunity

1382
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:37,400
for you to become bigger.

1383
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:39,640
Accept that with grace.

1384
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:40,520
Okay.

1385
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:41,360
All right.

1386
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:44,160
Maybe it's not my, it's not my calling, you know?

1387
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:46,120
Then, okay, fine.

1388
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:46,960
What's next?

1389
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:47,880
What should I do?

1390
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:48,720
You know?

1391
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:49,560
Not your calling.

1392
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:50,560
Are you kidding me?

1393
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:51,480
Oh God.

1394
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:54,640
There's so many opportunities for me.

1395
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:55,480
Sure.

1396
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:57,200
But maybe we talk about a calling.

1397
00:59:57,200 --> 01:00:00,440
Of all people that I know in my life,

1398
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:03,320
that is, you know, that,

1399
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:07,640
especially in this world of music and entertainment,

1400
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:10,720
I can personally say that calling,

1401
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:13,880
that this is certainly a calling for a lady.

1402
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:16,720
And I want to also say, say this,

1403
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:18,960
I picked this up from everything you said.

1404
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:22,120
You said, here in Singapore,

1405
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:23,800
would you care to expand on that?

1406
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:28,400
Let's really call a spade a fucking spade.

1407
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:30,000
Here in Singapore, why?

1408
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:30,840
Why?

1409
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:32,480
Okay. Let's put it this way.

1410
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:33,320
Mm.

1411
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:42,880
I, I've been a singer in a club scene

1412
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:47,960
all my life, all my adult life, I would say that.

1413
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:52,960
This is, you know, and I never had that big opportunity

1414
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:58,960
to be able to do shows,

1415
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:03,960
doing an album, cutting an album or whatever,

1416
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:07,400
because I need to work.

1417
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:08,240
Right.

1418
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:10,760
I need to, my mom was a singer mama.

1419
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:11,600
Earn a living.

1420
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:13,000
Yeah. I need to work.

1421
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:14,560
I need to earn a living.

1422
01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:18,760
I need to, I, I, I need, basically I need to earn money.

1423
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:19,600
And that's where-

1424
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:20,440
So unless of course you're a rich kid

1425
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:21,760
and you're talented and you're okay.

1426
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:24,160
Yeah. Then your parents, the parents will say like,

1427
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:25,000
you want to become singer?

1428
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:27,320
Okay. You, you want to be a performer?

1429
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:28,640
Okay. I go to a club.

1430
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:29,920
Okay. I bring you to school.

1431
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:33,160
You study Berkeley, you this, you take whatever,

1432
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:34,240
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

1433
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:36,360
You know, for me it's old school, man.

1434
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:39,880
I learned, I perform every single night, you know,

1435
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:41,920
doing, that's why when I watch movies like Elvis

1436
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:44,520
or Celine Dion, they work every night, you know?

1437
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:45,880
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

1438
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:47,120
Right. Yeah.

1439
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:49,520
I do exactly what I, what they do,

1440
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:50,960
but they're doing their own music.

1441
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:51,840
Yeah. Right.

1442
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:53,840
I do their covers.

1443
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:58,600
The only reason why I do that is because I have to work.

1444
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:03,600
And I can't find anybody who's like, Hey, do this.

1445
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:06,520
Can you write a song? I cannot write a song.

1446
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:08,920
Okay. I'll get you good songwriters.

1447
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:09,760
Right.

1448
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:12,800
That, that person, one person that believes in you.

1449
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:17,640
And they think that let's do this. You got it. Right.

1450
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:21,040
You believe, but you believed in people.

1451
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:22,120
I believe in people.

1452
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:24,520
You believe in, you believe in Hadi Mirza.

1453
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:25,840
Oh yes.

1454
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:27,960
And you coached him.

1455
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:29,320
Yes.

1456
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:32,640
For the Asian Idol finals that he won.

1457
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:33,600
No, I didn't.

1458
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:35,120
Okay. Which, what do you coach?

1459
01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:36,560
Where for which one do you coach him for?

1460
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:41,200
Okay. I, basically I just coached him as a performer.

1461
01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:42,320
Okay. Okay.

1462
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:46,280
So he just, I think he just finished NS at that time.

1463
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:47,880
So this was way before Idol.

1464
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:49,120
Oh yeah.

1465
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:51,120
So you were basically his mentor.

1466
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:51,960
Yes.

1467
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:52,800
Wow.

1468
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:53,640
And until today he tells me, he says,

1469
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:56,840
Aliyah, you're my mentor. You know, I said, bruh, come on, man.

1470
01:02:56,840 --> 01:03:00,760
I said, you are, you know, he says, no, we,

1471
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:04,080
Hadi and I, we always have very deep conversations.

1472
01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:07,920
And I always say, bro, I, you know, what you have back then,

1473
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:12,240
but you have that, you know, that fame that you have,

1474
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:14,560
you know, that I don't,

1475
01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:17,800
I don't want to sing every night also, bro, you know?

1476
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:18,960
But he tells me, he says, Aliyah,

1477
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:20,920
but that's the time when you're free, right?

1478
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:24,880
That's the time when you feel free when you doing, you know,

1479
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:27,160
like you sing every night, that's the most happiest time.

1480
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:28,000
Yeah.

1481
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:29,120
You're not being controlled, right?

1482
01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:30,760
I say, yeah, you're right.

1483
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:31,600
You know?

1484
01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:36,600
So, but then I helped him in terms of how to groom him

1485
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:40,920
as a performer on stage, you know, how to dress.

1486
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:43,560
Because when you are a performer,

1487
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:48,120
you walk into the place where you perform as an artist.

1488
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:49,360
Right.

1489
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:51,160
Head to toe, you must look good.

1490
01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:55,040
You know, you must be on your, you know,

1491
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:56,960
you have to have that flair.

1492
01:03:56,960 --> 01:04:01,560
So you've, you, you believed in people like Hardy

1493
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:05,360
and you've, you didn't, nobody came up to you to say,

1494
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:07,760
Aliyah, we're going to make you someone.

1495
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:08,800
So many.

1496
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:09,880
Okay. And what happened?

1497
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:11,320
Those were opportunities, weren't they?

1498
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:15,520
So many, but there are times where when you're young

1499
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:17,640
and you're pretty, right?

1500
01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:19,920
And then they come to you and they like,

1501
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:21,360
you got it.

1502
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:22,560
Or doing the Bernstein thing.

1503
01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:23,720
Yes. You got it.

1504
01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:27,240
You, you, you, you, you, you don't sing at night anymore.

1505
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:29,320
I pay you this amount of money.

1506
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:30,160
All right.

1507
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:32,480
Every month I give you this amount of money, right?

1508
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:35,800
You travel to KL, you travel to whatever, blah, blah, blah,

1509
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:38,240
blah, blah, you know, and be an artist, right?

1510
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:42,800
To be an artist and you can't write songs, right?

1511
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:44,400
You're waiting for people to give you songs, right?

1512
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:46,240
Yeah.

1513
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:50,560
To be in that circle, you have to be in that circle.

1514
01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:52,520
Okay. I'm trying to read between the lines here.

1515
01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:55,840
You have to be in that circle means you have to attend

1516
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:59,800
dinners and with all people who are-

1517
01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:00,720
Influential.

1518
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:03,760
Influential, people who's got the dough, you know,

1519
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:06,600
and then you got to hum, hum, hum, hum, you know?

1520
01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:09,280
And then if, for example,

1521
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:12,800
if you don't have a manager who manages you,

1522
01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:17,280
then you're like a, you can be like a butterfly.

1523
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:18,120
Butterfly, okay.

1524
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:18,960
You know what I mean?

1525
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:19,800
Fluttering around.

1526
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:23,960
Yeah. So you need to have that manager who really

1527
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:25,600
jaga you.

1528
01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:30,200
My band was not my manager, but my band at that time,

1529
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:33,480
so back when, when Rinsal said, you know, he picked me,

1530
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:34,320
right?

1531
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:38,400
And then he trained me, telling me how I should do,

1532
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:40,560
what I should do, what, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

1533
01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:44,720
And then a year later, the same band that left came back.

1534
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:46,680
Wow.

1535
01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:49,440
Okay. They came back, I think less than a year,

1536
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:51,600
maybe about six months like that.

1537
01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:54,680
They came back and then I remember them,

1538
01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:56,360
whole band came and they said like,

1539
01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:58,360
how come you never perform like this?

1540
01:05:58,360 --> 01:05:59,840
When we were performing, I said,

1541
01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:02,640
because you never gave me a chance, right?

1542
01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:04,800
And ever since then, they never left.

1543
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:07,040
It's Rinsal left.

1544
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:10,160
I stick to the band, you know?

1545
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:12,960
And, but they were very strict with me because I was a young

1546
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:14,000
girl, right?

1547
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:17,240
So they tell me I was not supposed to hang out in places

1548
01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:19,800
like Newton by myself.

1549
01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:21,720
That was very good of them actually.

1550
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:22,560
They took care of you.

1551
01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:27,400
Yes. Want to makan, supper, they will go with me.

1552
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:28,440
Right?

1553
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:33,440
And they were very strict on people that I mix around with.

1554
01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:35,720
Right. That's pretty good of them really.

1555
01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:38,640
Yeah. I think that you need to be disciplined,

1556
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:40,320
especially working in the nightlife.

1557
01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:41,320
That's like family, man.

1558
01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:45,000
Yes. Until today, they are like my heart.

1559
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:45,840
Wow.

1560
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:46,680
You know?

1561
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:47,520
Wow.

1562
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:50,920
So until to a point where other musicians thought I was very

1563
01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:55,920
so boom, you know, they thought they were stuck up, you know?

1564
01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:59,920
But in actual facts, because I was this,

1565
01:06:59,920 --> 01:07:03,960
they groom me to a point where you need to be professional,

1566
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:07,840
mix around with the right people, you know?

1567
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:11,360
Everything, hey Wyatt, after I left the band

1568
01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:13,760
and I had to control on my own, right?

1569
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:14,840
Right.

1570
01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:19,120
That's where it's a very tough, tough thing to do.

1571
01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:20,040
Okay.

1572
01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:21,880
Okay. I think I'm going all over the place,

1573
01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:26,880
but because my story, my music career in the scene,

1574
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:32,360
in the nightlife scene needs to be very,

1575
01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:37,360
very, I need to explain to all of you that being in the

1576
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:43,400
nightlife as a singer, as a performer is not easy,

1577
01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:46,240
especially for women.

1578
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:47,720
Yep.

1579
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:49,840
One small mistake you do.

1580
01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:50,680
That's it.

1581
01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:51,520
That's it.

1582
01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:53,120
Yeah. Nobody will want to hire you anymore.

1583
01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:55,160
No, no, they will hire you, right?

1584
01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:56,000
And?

1585
01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:59,520
For you to get up, because I've built this reputation

1586
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:00,520
for myself.

1587
01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:03,040
I really jaga myself.

1588
01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:07,080
And when that was taken away from me, right?

1589
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:10,880
When I'm on stage, I didn't have that confidence.

1590
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:11,720
Okay.

1591
01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:14,960
All the years that I've done, I can just do this.

1592
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:18,160
People will pay attention on my clicking, right?

1593
01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:19,280
It's all gone.

1594
01:08:19,280 --> 01:08:23,120
And that's where I know, no, I can't do this anymore.

1595
01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:24,000
Oh, wow.

1596
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:25,360
Yeah.

1597
01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:29,760
When you left the nightlife and your full-time performance

1598
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:33,960
and your performance, there must have been an itch

1599
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:36,000
that you just have to scratch, right?

1600
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:37,920
No, until today, bro.

1601
01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:41,560
Yeah, so you did still continue to perform somehow.

1602
01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:42,400
Yes.

1603
01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:43,520
And you're doing what, private gigs?

1604
01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:44,360
Yes.

1605
01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:45,200
Gigging?

1606
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:47,040
So I only do events.

1607
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:51,560
When there's an event who's like,

1608
01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:54,320
they call me and they say, you know,

1609
01:08:54,320 --> 01:08:55,480
you'll be able to do this.

1610
01:08:55,480 --> 01:08:56,480
Right.

1611
01:08:56,480 --> 01:08:59,800
And then I'll look at the schedule, my kids' schedule,

1612
01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:03,160
whether my husband will be able to watch the kids.

1613
01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:04,000
Right.

1614
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:04,840
Okay.

1615
01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:05,920
He says, okay, go for it.

1616
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:06,760
Okay.

1617
01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:07,600
Then I'll do it.

1618
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:12,600
You've done clubs a lot when you were in the nightlife.

1619
01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:14,840
You've done concerts as well?

1620
01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:15,680
Yes.

1621
01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:16,520
Okay.

1622
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:17,360
This is fantastic picture.

1623
01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:18,920
I just love this picture.

1624
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:20,200
Kai, do you have that one?

1625
01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:24,600
The one, oh wow.

1626
01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:25,440
Oh my goodness.

1627
01:09:25,440 --> 01:09:26,280
Oh my goodness.

1628
01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:28,280
Ali Adi, check you out.

1629
01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:29,600
There you go.

1630
01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:32,200
That was me.

1631
01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:33,440
My goodness.

1632
01:09:33,440 --> 01:09:35,880
And then of course your own private gigs, you know?

1633
01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:36,720
Yes.

1634
01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:37,560
And the concert, something.

1635
01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:39,720
This was probably a concert, I think.

1636
01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:40,560
Right.

1637
01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:44,320
This was a, like a fashion show.

1638
01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:45,160
Right.

1639
01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:49,600
So they had me to perform when the models were modeling.

1640
01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:50,440
Yeah.

1641
01:09:50,440 --> 01:09:51,600
Right.

1642
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:53,480
Nice, simple gig,

1643
01:09:53,480 --> 01:09:56,040
but it was like a big, big-

1644
01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:57,240
It's a big set, man.

1645
01:09:57,240 --> 01:09:59,880
I mean, it doesn't look fucking simple to me.

1646
01:09:59,880 --> 01:10:02,560
I've seen the ones that you've done also for Singapore,

1647
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:03,760
for tourism board.

1648
01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:05,560
Yeah, I did a lot back then, yes.

1649
01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:06,480
Wow.

1650
01:10:06,480 --> 01:10:08,200
And then between all these things,

1651
01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:11,680
clubs, concerts, and private gigs,

1652
01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:14,880
is there a difference in your audience?

1653
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:19,400
Is there a difference in the audience?

1654
01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:20,440
Yeah.

1655
01:10:20,440 --> 01:10:21,280
Yes.

1656
01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:22,240
Okay.

1657
01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:23,800
And you adapt to all.

1658
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:25,080
All.

1659
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:26,920
I even had,

1660
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:29,000
you see, when people come to watch my show,

1661
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:32,920
they know that I like to talk also.

1662
01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:33,760
You know?

1663
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:34,840
I like to entertain.

1664
01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:39,640
Because when you come to a club where I perform,

1665
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:43,520
you're not watching just a band that plays covers.

1666
01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:45,640
Because everybody, every club you go to,

1667
01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:47,240
they all play covers.

1668
01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:49,840
What is different about you?

1669
01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:50,680
You know?

1670
01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:55,680
Every band has to have a distinctive character.

1671
01:10:56,920 --> 01:10:57,760
Right.

1672
01:10:57,760 --> 01:10:58,600
Right?

1673
01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:03,600
So we have Energy, who has this distinctive style.

1674
01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:07,600
Right.

1675
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:10,960
Then you have, back then, Energy, they have Drive Talking,

1676
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:15,760
you have Wendy Koh, you have all these people you know,

1677
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:17,120
you see, then you know that,

1678
01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:20,160
okay, this band plays this, or they do this, right?

1679
01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:21,920
So what is Aliya?

1680
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:22,760
What does she do?

1681
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:29,400
So my thing was always to be able to entertain.

1682
01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:33,560
We especially tell jokes, be witty, be,

1683
01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:35,840
and I was young, I was sexy, eh?

1684
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:38,160
I was young, I was sexy.

1685
01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:39,320
And then after that, you would drop.

1686
01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:40,160
I had to drop.

1687
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:43,800
Young, sexy, you know?

1688
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:46,280
I was spunky, I was witty,

1689
01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:50,560
I didn't give a rat's ass who you are, right?

1690
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:52,960
If you want to guttal with me, you come, come.

1691
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:54,400
Get on stage.

1692
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:56,200
And then I'll make them make sure that,

1693
01:11:56,200 --> 01:11:59,400
you think I don't have the balls to tell this,

1694
01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:01,880
you know, I'll make them in the spot, you know?

1695
01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:05,440
But after embarrassing them a little bit, you know?

1696
01:12:05,440 --> 01:12:08,600
Then I will butter them up with a song,

1697
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:11,160
that makes them go, ah, you know?

1698
01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:14,000
Then they wanna come back for that, right?

1699
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:17,840
I ever performed, this bugger, this guy,

1700
01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:19,600
probably had a bad day, okay?

1701
01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:23,640
Maybe divorced or got thrown out from work or whatever.

1702
01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:25,600
He was at the bar, okay?

1703
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:28,560
He was at the bar, I've never seen him before.

1704
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:31,400
So he had a drink.

1705
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:35,800
Usually when you have regulars,

1706
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:39,120
they won't have a drink, they'll have a bottle, okay?

1707
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:42,880
He had a drink and then he sat down

1708
01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:45,240
and then when I was entertaining,

1709
01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:47,560
because somebody's birthday or whatever,

1710
01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:51,240
this guy said, shut up and sing la.

1711
01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:52,320
Oh dear.

1712
01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:53,880
You know?

1713
01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:56,000
And then a part of me like,

1714
01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:58,560
oh my God, who the hell is that?

1715
01:12:58,560 --> 01:12:59,800
Right?

1716
01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:02,000
So embarrassing, that's one.

1717
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:03,560
Number two, how do I cover that?

1718
01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:05,480
How do I, right?

1719
01:13:05,480 --> 01:13:08,000
So, and then I said, okay,

1720
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:10,600
you gotta be ballsy to do the next thing.

1721
01:13:10,600 --> 01:13:13,200
So after singing birthday song, blah, blah, blah,

1722
01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:15,160
the person sits down and then I said,

1723
01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:17,400
okay, that gentleman by the bar.

1724
01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:18,240
Yeah.

1725
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:22,000
So I'm on stage here, he's at the bar.

1726
01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:23,360
Okay.

1727
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:26,120
And then I said, what happened?

1728
01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:28,520
What happened to you?

1729
01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:29,360
You know?

1730
01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:32,920
And then he was like, shut up and sing la,

1731
01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:34,320
you know that kind of thing, right?

1732
01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:37,840
So I said, okay, what does a woman have?

1733
01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:39,120
They have charm.

1734
01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:40,200
We need to charm this guy.

1735
01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:41,040
Okay.

1736
01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:41,880
Right?

1737
01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:44,520
So I go all the way to the bar

1738
01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:49,320
and I asked them to play some love song, I think.

1739
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:51,720
Some love, I can't really remember what song.

1740
01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:54,480
I came to the bar, I sat next to him.

1741
01:13:54,480 --> 01:13:57,760
And then I sang, you want me to sing?

1742
01:13:57,760 --> 01:14:00,200
I'm singing, I forget about other people around here.

1743
01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:01,960
I'm singing just for you.

1744
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:03,360
And I sang a love song for him.

1745
01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:04,960
Okay.

1746
01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:07,960
The guy just, he felt honored.

1747
01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:08,800
Right.

1748
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:10,320
He felt embarrassed.

1749
01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:11,400
Yeah.

1750
01:14:11,400 --> 01:14:16,400
He felt like, oh, just go, just go, just go.

1751
01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:17,800
You know that kind of thing.

1752
01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:21,400
But I said that, I hold his hand and I said,

1753
01:14:21,400 --> 01:14:25,760
don't worry about whoever's around, just you and me.

1754
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:27,800
And I just looked at him and I sang the song.

1755
01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:29,080
Yeah. Right?

1756
01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:31,960
And then after that, I said,

1757
01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:33,320
and everybody was clapping, right?

1758
01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:35,200
Then he said, he inches like that.

1759
01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:39,000
And I said, no, no, no, you owe me a bottle.

1760
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:44,000
So I got it to buy a bottle.

1761
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:46,200
So I said, win, win, right?

1762
01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:47,560
You want to make so much noise?

1763
01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:50,000
I sang for you, now you buy a bloody bottle.

1764
01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:52,280
So, but then of course he don't want to pay seh.

1765
01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:53,600
Pay seh, long kuih.

1766
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:55,160
So he had to buy a bottle

1767
01:14:55,160 --> 01:14:58,920
and I made sure he buy the very good bottle.

1768
01:14:58,920 --> 01:14:59,760
You know.

1769
01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:01,120
Okay, madam, I'm gonna bring,

1770
01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:04,480
because we've been talking for about an hour and a half

1771
01:15:04,480 --> 01:15:07,400
so far and there's two more things we want to know.

1772
01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:08,440
Just two more things.

1773
01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:12,760
You left the nightlife, you're still gigging,

1774
01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:14,720
which I'm so glad that you are.

1775
01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:17,840
We cannot lose a leo D in the Singapore music,

1776
01:15:17,840 --> 01:15:19,920
in the music place, yeah?

1777
01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:21,440
Or music space.

1778
01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:24,200
And you started this thing.

1779
01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:25,040
Yes.

1780
01:15:27,040 --> 01:15:27,880
Started what?

1781
01:15:27,880 --> 01:15:28,920
Okay, people, you need to know,

1782
01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:30,360
there's a big starting difference.

1783
01:15:30,360 --> 01:15:34,320
You've seen pictures of a leo D in the earlier years, right?

1784
01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:37,640
And then now you have this particular look

1785
01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:41,400
with this turban on her head.

1786
01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:42,960
Head wrap.

1787
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:44,280
Head wrap.

1788
01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:50,400
And she's in the studio, she has that turban on her head.

1789
01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:54,480
And you started this thing.

1790
01:15:54,480 --> 01:15:55,840
Okay, so okay, fine, fine, fine.

1791
01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:57,440
This is a head wrap.

1792
01:15:57,440 --> 01:15:59,480
And you started this business.

1793
01:15:59,480 --> 01:16:01,960
So how did this happen, man?

1794
01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:03,320
Okay, you're walking around, I know now.

1795
01:16:03,320 --> 01:16:06,400
And this is your signature, it's been for a few years.

1796
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:10,760
Everywhere you go, a leo D has got a head wrap on.

1797
01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:13,080
Any particular reason besides for the business?

1798
01:16:13,080 --> 01:16:14,080
Is there any particular reason?

1799
01:16:14,080 --> 01:16:16,000
Oh yeah, okay, like I said,

1800
01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:19,840
I'm always evolving.

1801
01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:21,400
Evolving, okay.

1802
01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:26,400
Okay, so after I stopped singing, performing nightly,

1803
01:16:27,440 --> 01:16:30,080
I of course became more religious.

1804
01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:31,120
Okay, okay.

1805
01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:36,120
So besides having a hijab on as a Muslim,

1806
01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:40,560
I told myself, I said, okay,

1807
01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:42,520
I still need to have my identity, ma.

1808
01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:43,360
Okay.

1809
01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:46,160
I need to create something, something.

1810
01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:52,120
So I know that some religious people out there

1811
01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:55,280
will not be able to accept the fact

1812
01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:58,280
that a head wrap is a hijab.

1813
01:16:58,280 --> 01:17:01,040
It's not a hijab, a head wrap is a head wrap.

1814
01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:04,960
So there will be critics in the Muslim community.

1815
01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:05,800
Have they been?

1816
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:06,640
Yeah, of course.

1817
01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:07,480
Okay.

1818
01:17:07,480 --> 01:17:12,480
But I specifically wanted to have that

1819
01:17:12,480 --> 01:17:13,800
because I can't obviously,

1820
01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:18,800
when I'm called to do an event for a show,

1821
01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:20,640
firstly, I don't want to wear a wig.

1822
01:17:22,160 --> 01:17:25,240
Okay, because they say you have to cover your hair.

1823
01:17:25,240 --> 01:17:26,080
Really?

1824
01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:27,360
Yeah, so I don't want to wear a wig.

1825
01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:28,560
What's the point?

1826
01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:29,400
Yeah.

1827
01:17:29,400 --> 01:17:30,240
Right?

1828
01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:32,280
Okay, but I still want to perform.

1829
01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:33,760
They still want me to perform.

1830
01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:37,400
Okay, so I said, okay, let me just do something,

1831
01:17:37,400 --> 01:17:38,240
just create something.

1832
01:17:38,240 --> 01:17:42,240
So I do, I have, I've seen other Muslim performers

1833
01:17:44,440 --> 01:17:47,280
who does head wraps.

1834
01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:50,800
Oh, oh, oh, yeah, right.

1835
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:52,920
And I said, okay, that's not too bad, right?

1836
01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:56,240
But I want to have another step up, right?

1837
01:17:56,240 --> 01:18:00,640
To create bold colors, bold designs,

1838
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:02,200
instead of having one plain one.

1839
01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:04,840
And so I want to use creativity

1840
01:18:04,840 --> 01:18:06,560
because I'm a very creative person.

1841
01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:09,520
So making this, making something that is,

1842
01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:11,680
hopefully in your mind,

1843
01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:15,440
that would still adhere for religious purposes.

1844
01:18:15,440 --> 01:18:19,120
Yes, this is not specifically for religious purposes.

1845
01:18:19,120 --> 01:18:21,600
For me personally, because I am performing

1846
01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:23,720
and I still, I'm still performing,

1847
01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:26,400
but I want to make sure that I cover my hair.

1848
01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:28,160
So I use a head wrap.

1849
01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:29,080
Okay. Okay.

1850
01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:29,920
That's one.

1851
01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:32,040
Which is basically adhering to,

1852
01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:34,680
to, to, for religious purpose.

1853
01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:35,520
Yes.

1854
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:37,400
I made a vow to myself that-

1855
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:38,760
But you want to make it fashionable.

1856
01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:39,640
Yes, fashionable.

1857
01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:40,920
Although, like I said,

1858
01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:45,560
most Muslim community or some Muslim community

1859
01:18:45,560 --> 01:18:48,440
will disagree on what I'm doing,

1860
01:18:48,440 --> 01:18:50,680
what I'm portraying, portraying.

1861
01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:52,160
But let's not get into that.

1862
01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:53,000
Okay.

1863
01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:56,160
What I mean is when I create this, okay,

1864
01:18:56,160 --> 01:18:57,880
and I thought that, hey,

1865
01:18:57,880 --> 01:19:02,880
there are Muslim ladies who just started to wear hijab

1866
01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:05,960
and they're still trying to find the style.

1867
01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:06,800
Okay.

1868
01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:07,640
Like me.

1869
01:19:07,640 --> 01:19:08,480
Okay.

1870
01:19:08,480 --> 01:19:09,920
That's why, that's where they like,

1871
01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:11,440
Aliyah, it's so nice.

1872
01:19:11,440 --> 01:19:12,440
You can pull it off.

1873
01:19:12,440 --> 01:19:13,600
And I said, if I can pull it off,

1874
01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:14,560
you can pull it off too.

1875
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:15,640
Okay. Okay.

1876
01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:17,400
Second, that's the second reason.

1877
01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:21,680
Third, I had a couple of my friends

1878
01:19:21,680 --> 01:19:24,880
when I was going through this changes in my life,

1879
01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:26,680
putting a hijab and all that,

1880
01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:28,520
I had a couple of my friends

1881
01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:30,440
who passed on because of cancer.

1882
01:19:30,440 --> 01:19:31,280
Okay.

1883
01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:32,120
Okay.

1884
01:19:32,120 --> 01:19:34,440
So during this time when they were losing hair-

1885
01:19:34,440 --> 01:19:35,440
Due to chemotherapy.

1886
01:19:35,440 --> 01:19:36,280
Yes.

1887
01:19:37,200 --> 01:19:40,840
They had caps on, they had struggled to-

1888
01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:42,400
They tried to find a way to look-

1889
01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:44,480
Even putting on a wig also,

1890
01:19:44,480 --> 01:19:46,600
it's like they don't really, you know?

1891
01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:51,120
So, and then I dolled them with my head wraps,

1892
01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:52,120
you know?

1893
01:19:52,120 --> 01:19:54,880
And they look great, you know?

1894
01:19:54,880 --> 01:19:56,920
So, and I said that,

1895
01:19:56,920 --> 01:19:58,520
let me create this, not only-

1896
01:19:58,520 --> 01:19:59,840
So, regardless of race actually, is it?

1897
01:19:59,840 --> 01:20:00,680
Yeah.

1898
01:20:00,680 --> 01:20:01,520
You know?

1899
01:20:01,520 --> 01:20:02,480
So, I had my dancer friends,

1900
01:20:02,480 --> 01:20:04,360
because I had a lot of performers

1901
01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:07,080
who are dancers and all that.

1902
01:20:07,080 --> 01:20:07,920
And I said that,

1903
01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:09,560
hey, y'all want to go to the beach?

1904
01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:10,840
I give you a head wrap, okay?

1905
01:20:10,840 --> 01:20:12,320
You don't want to damage your hair, right?

1906
01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:13,280
With the sun, right?

1907
01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:16,520
So, wear that bikini, put on the, you know?

1908
01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:18,360
They look so cool in it, you know?

1909
01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:20,800
So, then I said, hey, this is a good-

1910
01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:23,960
How do you figure out how to wrap that wrap

1911
01:20:23,960 --> 01:20:24,800
on your head, man?

1912
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:28,200
I mean, they have more than just one way of doing it, right?

1913
01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:30,000
Yeah, but I tell you,

1914
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:32,720
in the beginning stage, it's all trial and error.

1915
01:20:32,720 --> 01:20:35,320
You think you're so nice, right, when you use, right?

1916
01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:39,640
Then a few walks later to the bus stop or whatever,

1917
01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:40,920
to wait taxi or whatever,

1918
01:20:40,920 --> 01:20:42,520
you see thing going down.

1919
01:20:42,520 --> 01:20:44,560
You know?

1920
01:20:44,560 --> 01:20:46,080
Or either that, or it's like,

1921
01:20:46,080 --> 01:20:48,080
oh, it's so tight, oh my God, you know?

1922
01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:49,400
You know what I mean?

1923
01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:50,880
It's circulation to the brain.

1924
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:55,880
Yes, so then I said, okay, before I sell this,

1925
01:20:57,080 --> 01:20:59,760
let me try it on my own.

1926
01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:01,160
So, I tried, tried, tried.

1927
01:21:01,160 --> 01:21:05,480
We found this, we found this video of you, you know,

1928
01:21:05,480 --> 01:21:07,000
I think it's more like instructional.

1929
01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:08,800
Can we play that one, please, Kai?

1930
01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:13,800
Oh, tutorial, instruction.

1931
01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:15,640
Yeah, yeah, it's instructional, wow.

1932
01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:16,720
Yes, yes.

1933
01:21:16,720 --> 01:21:17,560
It is what?

1934
01:21:17,560 --> 01:21:18,880
Yeah.

1935
01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:22,440
And then you go, and what's that pretzel thing, man?

1936
01:21:22,440 --> 01:21:25,560
I was, why are you putting,

1937
01:21:25,560 --> 01:21:27,400
why are you putting these things in pretzel?

1938
01:21:27,400 --> 01:21:29,080
It's a buckle, it's a buckle, bruh.

1939
01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:30,520
It's a fucking pretzel.

1940
01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:33,280
It's a buckle, people use buckle, right?

1941
01:21:35,480 --> 01:21:37,560
So you can accessorize it with buckle.

1942
01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:38,880
Or so you get hungry, you take it out,

1943
01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:40,320
you can chew on it too.

1944
01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:41,800
Whatever floats your boat.

1945
01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:48,480
Yeah, so this is the, eh, easy?

1946
01:21:48,480 --> 01:21:51,280
So this is, this is called a pretzel wrap.

1947
01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:52,120
No.

1948
01:21:52,120 --> 01:21:52,960
I've just given you-

1949
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:54,800
This is called a band-e wrap.

1950
01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:55,640
A what wrap?

1951
01:21:55,640 --> 01:21:56,480
A band-e wrap.

1952
01:21:57,760 --> 01:21:58,600
A band-e wrap.

1953
01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:00,320
I tell you something, man.

1954
01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:04,000
You've changed the name of that to the pretzel wrap.

1955
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:06,600
You probably get more sales happening.

1956
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:10,240
I remember telling you when I wanted to start this business,

1957
01:22:10,240 --> 01:22:11,080
remember?

1958
01:22:11,080 --> 01:22:11,920
Yeah, yeah.

1959
01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:12,960
I told you in FD, I said,

1960
01:22:12,960 --> 01:22:14,520
I'm gonna start this business, blah, blah, blah.

1961
01:22:14,520 --> 01:22:16,560
You're like, oh yeah, madam, what are you gonna call it?

1962
01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:18,720
I said, I'm gonna call it, it's a wrap.

1963
01:22:18,720 --> 01:22:19,560
Burrito?

1964
01:22:19,560 --> 01:22:22,680
Both of you know, the clowns know you're telling me this.

1965
01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:25,440
I'm like, what burrito?

1966
01:22:25,440 --> 01:22:26,280
It's a wrap, what?

1967
01:22:26,280 --> 01:22:27,360
You think it wrap, what?

1968
01:22:27,360 --> 01:22:28,200
Tacos?

1969
01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:29,200
Burrito, tacos.

1970
01:22:29,200 --> 01:22:30,200
It's no shit, lah.

1971
01:22:30,200 --> 01:22:34,160
And oh, seriously, man, when he told us

1972
01:22:34,160 --> 01:22:37,160
he's gonna be called, it's a wrap.

1973
01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:39,600
The only thing that,

1974
01:22:40,920 --> 01:22:42,960
the only thing that occurred to us was,

1975
01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:45,600
it must be Mexican, lah.

1976
01:22:45,600 --> 01:22:46,440
It's a wrap.

1977
01:22:46,440 --> 01:22:47,280
It's a wrap.

1978
01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:49,160
Tacos, burritos.

1979
01:22:49,160 --> 01:22:50,440
See, what wrap is this?

1980
01:22:50,440 --> 01:22:54,960
Yeah, I remember saying, but it's a nice name, what?

1981
01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:56,840
Then I said, okay, cannot put, I must put,

1982
01:22:56,840 --> 01:22:59,360
it's a wrap by Aliadi.

1983
01:22:59,360 --> 01:23:00,640
Now it's us.

1984
01:23:00,640 --> 01:23:04,200
So Aliadi now sells burritos.

1985
01:23:04,200 --> 01:23:05,040
Your head?

1986
01:23:05,040 --> 01:23:09,040
If I know how to make burritos, probably, yeah?

1987
01:23:09,040 --> 01:23:14,040
Now that you've jogged my memory,

1988
01:23:14,040 --> 01:23:18,000
I think I remember, FD and I were laughing our heads off,

1989
01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:18,840
man, we nearly fell off our chairs.

1990
01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:20,800
Yeah, I remember, you're looking at me like,

1991
01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:25,640
eh, madam, what was this, your stylish, ah?

1992
01:23:25,640 --> 01:23:27,240
I said, yeah, I'm gonna start a business.

1993
01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:28,080
I'm like, oh, this is-

1994
01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:30,120
So all of a sudden, the Aliadi we knew

1995
01:23:30,120 --> 01:23:32,200
that had long hair all the time,

1996
01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:34,400
whoops, comes in with this thing on the head.

1997
01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:36,840
They're like, what's happening to,

1998
01:23:36,840 --> 01:23:38,880
eh, but I'm telling you honestly, ah,

1999
01:23:41,240 --> 01:23:43,720
I've been in this entertainment business for so long,

2000
01:23:43,720 --> 01:23:46,280
and then when I, how I knew you,

2001
01:23:46,280 --> 01:23:49,080
obviously is because through the MC Academy,

2002
01:23:49,080 --> 01:23:51,160
we did this together,

2003
01:23:51,160 --> 01:23:54,600
and then I remember I was also managing you, right?

2004
01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:55,600
Yeah, you were.

2005
01:23:55,600 --> 01:23:59,560
Yeah, and I remember going, you know,

2006
01:23:59,560 --> 01:24:03,840
I never had problems with dealing with anybody

2007
01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:06,600
in the entertainment business at all,

2008
01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:10,320
because visual, visual didn't look like,

2009
01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:13,480
wow, this girl is hot, ah, right?

2010
01:24:13,480 --> 01:24:16,160
And then my name is Aliya Dimal Dasharma.

2011
01:24:16,160 --> 01:24:18,120
I signed them an email.

2012
01:24:18,120 --> 01:24:19,200
You know, send them an email,

2013
01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:20,400
it's got Aliya Dimal Dasharma.

2014
01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:22,120
What is, what is, what, what is she?

2015
01:24:22,120 --> 01:24:23,760
Indian, grub, what?

2016
01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:25,880
Very curious, people must want to meet you, la.

2017
01:24:25,880 --> 01:24:28,920
Scarlett, when you come, one girl with a turban.

2018
01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:32,720
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

2019
01:24:32,720 --> 01:24:36,200
I'm like, and they were like,

2020
01:24:36,200 --> 01:24:37,720
oh, is this same girl?

2021
01:24:37,720 --> 01:24:38,560
Same lady?

2022
01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:43,120
But, okay, something serious about this, okay?

2023
01:24:43,120 --> 01:24:46,560
Their perception, yeah, they look at you,

2024
01:24:47,720 --> 01:24:50,800
thinking that she doesn't know shit, you know?

2025
01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:55,800
Like, I remember accepting a check, okay?

2026
01:24:56,440 --> 01:24:58,480
Because I remember I said,

2027
01:24:59,360 --> 01:25:04,080
you want my artist or you want my MC to perform

2028
01:25:04,080 --> 01:25:07,520
or to do the show, you need to give a 50%.

2029
01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:09,240
Up front. Up front, right?

2030
01:25:09,240 --> 01:25:11,880
After the show, or before he gets on stage,

2031
01:25:11,880 --> 01:25:13,760
give me the check, right?

2032
01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:18,760
Okay, so I remember I had this meeting with this individual

2033
01:25:19,800 --> 01:25:24,280
and before we left, I says, he said, oh yeah.

2034
01:25:24,280 --> 01:25:28,240
She looks at me, she said, oh yeah, payment, ah?

2035
01:25:28,240 --> 01:25:31,760
I says, of course, I'm like, of course,

2036
01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:33,680
I will never forget, I need to pay,

2037
01:25:33,680 --> 01:25:36,440
I need to make sure everything's in check, you know?

2038
01:25:36,440 --> 01:25:38,080
Me and my witty self, right?

2039
01:25:38,080 --> 01:25:42,000
This is how she passes the check to me, okay?

2040
01:25:44,480 --> 01:25:48,960
This is a business that we're dealing with, okay?

2041
01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:52,040
And the person, but before this whole thing,

2042
01:25:52,040 --> 01:25:55,760
when she met, before she met me, okay?

2043
01:25:55,760 --> 01:25:58,280
It was all like, yes, ma'am, yes, yes, yes, okay.

2044
01:25:58,280 --> 01:26:00,280
No, very nice, nice, you know?

2045
01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:04,080
All that and, and, oh, I can't wait to meet you in person,

2046
01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:05,320
blah, blah, blah, blah, but she met me

2047
01:26:05,320 --> 01:26:08,040
because I wear this, right?

2048
01:26:08,040 --> 01:26:13,040
Or maybe perhaps portray as a Muslim woman, right?

2049
01:26:14,480 --> 01:26:16,360
This is how they treat, I don't,

2050
01:26:16,360 --> 01:26:19,840
I've never been treated like this before, okay?

2051
01:26:19,840 --> 01:26:21,240
Push the check like that.

2052
01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:23,080
So I give it a benefit of the doubt,

2053
01:26:23,080 --> 01:26:26,040
maybe this lady is probably being, you know, chummy chummy

2054
01:26:26,040 --> 01:26:27,840
because I'm mostly chummy chummy with her,

2055
01:26:27,840 --> 01:26:31,000
but there's not a way, there's not the way to be,

2056
01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:33,920
especially when it comes to money, right?

2057
01:26:33,920 --> 01:26:36,880
You give nicely, okay, oh, you give this, okay,

2058
01:26:36,880 --> 01:26:39,640
sign here, please, or something like that, right?

2059
01:26:39,640 --> 01:26:40,560
That's one.

2060
01:26:40,560 --> 01:26:45,560
Second, go to a shop, right, to go and get some outfit done

2061
01:26:47,960 --> 01:26:50,960
and spoke to the salesperson.

2062
01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:54,960
I spoke to the person in English, right,

2063
01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:57,200
how I'm talking to you right now.

2064
01:26:57,200 --> 01:27:00,040
And she tells me,

2065
01:27:00,040 --> 01:27:04,720
speak Malay, okay?

2066
01:27:04,720 --> 01:27:06,320
Then I'm like, and this person is Chinese,

2067
01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:08,280
she's probably Malaysian or whatever, you know?

2068
01:27:08,280 --> 01:27:10,680
But this is a boutique, okay, this is a boutique.

2069
01:27:10,680 --> 01:27:12,800
Speak Malay, you know?

2070
01:27:12,800 --> 01:27:16,480
Then I'm like, speak Malay?

2071
01:27:16,480 --> 01:27:20,520
I said, I said, I said-

2072
01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:23,000
Speak Malay means speak Malay.

2073
01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:25,360
And I'm wondering why?

2074
01:27:25,360 --> 01:27:28,800
Why am I offending you or you can't speak English?

2075
01:27:28,800 --> 01:27:31,160
Because all along you can speak English,

2076
01:27:31,160 --> 01:27:32,640
but when I talk to you even more, I says,

2077
01:27:32,640 --> 01:27:35,680
oh, I need this to be a little bit more tighter.

2078
01:27:35,680 --> 01:27:37,640
For example, I say something like that.

2079
01:27:37,640 --> 01:27:38,480
Speak Malay.

2080
01:27:38,480 --> 01:27:43,480
And I'm like, why?

2081
01:27:43,640 --> 01:27:47,920
You know, even get into a cab, right?

2082
01:27:47,920 --> 01:27:49,360
Uncle, can you take me to the-

2083
01:27:51,360 --> 01:27:52,200
Malay?

2084
01:27:52,200 --> 01:27:56,560
Then I said, and I said, no.

2085
01:27:56,560 --> 01:27:57,400
Okay.

2086
01:27:57,400 --> 01:27:58,240
Malay.

2087
01:27:58,240 --> 01:27:59,360
Malay.

2088
01:27:59,360 --> 01:28:02,080
Then I said, I can speak Malay.

2089
01:28:02,080 --> 01:28:04,200
I said, but I'm not a Malay.

2090
01:28:04,200 --> 01:28:06,320
You know, stuff like that, right?

2091
01:28:06,320 --> 01:28:10,840
And then I understood that wherever you go-

2092
01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:11,680
Stereotyped.

2093
01:28:11,680 --> 01:28:14,840
Yes, as you try to dress in a certain way,

2094
01:28:14,840 --> 01:28:17,880
people stereotype you as like, you Malay, you talk Malay.

2095
01:28:18,880 --> 01:28:19,720
You know?

2096
01:28:19,720 --> 01:28:20,760
You, you-

2097
01:28:22,040 --> 01:28:23,520
It happens to the Chinese too, believe me.

2098
01:28:23,520 --> 01:28:24,360
I'm sure!

2099
01:28:24,360 --> 01:28:25,200
Yeah.

2100
01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:26,040
I'm sure.

2101
01:28:26,040 --> 01:28:27,600
I'm sure, I'm sure.

2102
01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:29,160
Chinese people will say, why do you speak to me in Chinese?

2103
01:28:29,160 --> 01:28:31,000
Why don't you speak to me in English?

2104
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:31,840
I'm sure, I'm sure.

2105
01:28:31,840 --> 01:28:34,480
And I never understood that shit, frankly.

2106
01:28:34,480 --> 01:28:35,640
I really don't.

2107
01:28:35,640 --> 01:28:39,360
And yeah, you know, I really hope that that Czech incident

2108
01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:42,600
you've had, it doesn't do with when you were managing me

2109
01:28:42,600 --> 01:28:43,440
or it was my show.

2110
01:28:43,440 --> 01:28:44,280
It was, it was.

2111
01:28:44,280 --> 01:28:45,120
It was my show.

2112
01:28:45,120 --> 01:28:45,960
Oh dear.

2113
01:28:45,960 --> 01:28:46,800
Yeah, it was.

2114
01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:49,880
So whoever that dickhead was, oh well.

2115
01:28:49,880 --> 01:28:53,200
I was just, I was just blown.

2116
01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:57,440
I couldn't believe my eyes and my ears

2117
01:28:57,440 --> 01:28:58,760
and how I was treated.

2118
01:28:58,760 --> 01:29:00,960
You know, that's the thing, you know.

2119
01:29:00,960 --> 01:29:03,600
I, I, the reason why I have this tribute show earlier

2120
01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:06,520
is simply because to foreign musels and icons

2121
01:29:06,520 --> 01:29:08,160
in our music industry,

2122
01:29:08,160 --> 01:29:12,000
is simply because I think a lot of musicians

2123
01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:15,280
and entertainers in Singapore are not cherished,

2124
01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:19,560
not respected, even in basic respect I'm talking about.

2125
01:29:19,560 --> 01:29:20,680
Yeah.

2126
01:29:20,680 --> 01:29:25,240
And not appreciated enough by people across the board,

2127
01:29:25,240 --> 01:29:27,840
not just in Singapore, I think safe to say,

2128
01:29:27,840 --> 01:29:29,400
I think kind of global now.

2129
01:29:29,400 --> 01:29:30,240
Yeah.

2130
01:29:30,240 --> 01:29:33,880
And, but naturally here, I'm talking about here as well,

2131
01:29:33,880 --> 01:29:35,160
especially here in Singapore,

2132
01:29:35,160 --> 01:29:38,920
because it is about our local musels and entertainers, right?

2133
01:29:39,800 --> 01:29:44,160
And, and I mean, people don't do things for free.

2134
01:29:44,160 --> 01:29:45,720
People don't do things for 20 bucks.

2135
01:29:45,720 --> 01:29:47,800
You know what I mean?

2136
01:29:47,800 --> 01:29:51,400
And pay musicians and entertainers on time.

2137
01:29:51,400 --> 01:29:52,240
Yeah.

2138
01:29:52,240 --> 01:29:55,120
And then don't forget that we've really lost in my,

2139
01:29:55,120 --> 01:29:56,400
and I've been saying this,

2140
01:29:56,400 --> 01:29:58,480
and gosh, I really feel like a parrot.

2141
01:30:00,560 --> 01:30:04,000
We've lost our soul because we've lost our music.

2142
01:30:04,000 --> 01:30:06,360
Well, in the recent budget announcement,

2143
01:30:07,360 --> 01:30:09,720
I really hope it works, you know?

2144
01:30:09,720 --> 01:30:11,600
But when they say the arts,

2145
01:30:11,600 --> 01:30:13,320
they always leave out entertainment.

2146
01:30:13,320 --> 01:30:14,160
Yeah.

2147
01:30:14,160 --> 01:30:15,000
It's sad, you know?

2148
01:30:15,000 --> 01:30:15,840
Yeah.

2149
01:30:15,840 --> 01:30:17,120
Again, I hear it yesterday.

2150
01:30:17,120 --> 01:30:19,760
I mean, the budget was announced yesterday, right?

2151
01:30:19,760 --> 01:30:22,720
And okay, you're gonna pump money, good money,

2152
01:30:22,720 --> 01:30:24,400
into the arts.

2153
01:30:25,920 --> 01:30:26,920
Arts.

2154
01:30:26,920 --> 01:30:28,040
Are you talking theater?

2155
01:30:28,040 --> 01:30:29,160
Are you talking drama?

2156
01:30:29,160 --> 01:30:30,280
Are you talking dance?

2157
01:30:30,280 --> 01:30:31,400
You're talking about modern dance,

2158
01:30:31,400 --> 01:30:33,160
you're talking about ballet.

2159
01:30:33,160 --> 01:30:34,680
You're talking about classical music.

2160
01:30:34,680 --> 01:30:37,000
What happened?

2161
01:30:37,000 --> 01:30:39,760
How about musels?

2162
01:30:40,600 --> 01:30:41,880
How about entertainers?

2163
01:30:41,880 --> 01:30:42,720
Yeah.

2164
01:30:42,720 --> 01:30:43,560
You know?

2165
01:30:44,560 --> 01:30:47,000
I really hope that I'm wrong about this,

2166
01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:49,240
that it really would also go,

2167
01:30:49,240 --> 01:30:52,120
a portion of the budget, to entertainers.

2168
01:30:52,120 --> 01:30:55,680
Because our night scene now is muted, man.

2169
01:30:55,680 --> 01:30:56,720
Yeah.

2170
01:30:56,720 --> 01:30:58,440
Danny Long is on the show, watch the episode.

2171
01:30:58,440 --> 01:31:00,320
I'm not gonna talk too much about that because-

2172
01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:02,640
You know, I've never worked with him.

2173
01:31:02,640 --> 01:31:03,480
Really?

2174
01:31:03,480 --> 01:31:04,320
Never.

2175
01:31:04,320 --> 01:31:07,600
Well, when I, hey Danny,

2176
01:31:07,600 --> 01:31:09,240
I'm still waiting for that phone call,

2177
01:31:09,240 --> 01:31:13,040
your invitation to come to Blackbird together with you.

2178
01:31:13,040 --> 01:31:15,000
I'll drag Alia along.

2179
01:31:15,000 --> 01:31:17,080
Yeah, you gotta meet this lady, okay?

2180
01:31:17,080 --> 01:31:18,200
You really got to,

2181
01:31:18,200 --> 01:31:20,600
and that's he done in favor for you already.

2182
01:31:20,600 --> 01:31:23,640
And yeah, and we both agree, you know?

2183
01:31:23,640 --> 01:31:27,440
I mean, look, how many places do you find in Singapore,

2184
01:31:27,440 --> 01:31:30,880
the exception of Timber Plus and Blackbird,

2185
01:31:30,880 --> 01:31:34,160
where you have got really good five piece bands playing,

2186
01:31:34,160 --> 01:31:35,480
at least a five piece.

2187
01:31:35,480 --> 01:31:39,080
You see people, club owners or bar owners,

2188
01:31:39,080 --> 01:31:42,600
who no longer have the sufficient budget

2189
01:31:42,600 --> 01:31:46,520
to hire musos, let alone your own DJ.

2190
01:31:47,520 --> 01:31:48,520
Because why?

2191
01:31:49,640 --> 01:31:50,480
Rents.

2192
01:31:52,320 --> 01:31:56,280
Revenue and your profits going to rent, right?

2193
01:31:56,280 --> 01:32:01,280
So these people can't afford to get in

2194
01:32:01,880 --> 01:32:05,960
maybe more than one or two piece to play,

2195
01:32:05,960 --> 01:32:08,760
or even a DJ, yeah?

2196
01:32:08,760 --> 01:32:10,840
Back in the day when you were performing, man,

2197
01:32:10,840 --> 01:32:12,760
when I was partying as well, right?

2198
01:32:12,760 --> 01:32:16,280
It's, Singapore is vibrant.

2199
01:32:16,280 --> 01:32:18,280
Everywhere you go, you hear music, man.

2200
01:32:18,280 --> 01:32:21,640
You hear good bands really playing, right?

2201
01:32:21,640 --> 01:32:25,320
I'm not gonna go on and on about this,

2202
01:32:25,320 --> 01:32:26,440
because as I said,

2203
01:32:26,440 --> 01:32:29,560
watch the episode that I've had with Danny,

2204
01:32:29,560 --> 01:32:31,440
and you will hear a lot more.

2205
01:32:31,440 --> 01:32:33,040
But it's really sad,

2206
01:32:33,040 --> 01:32:35,440
the situation that we are in as a country,

2207
01:32:35,440 --> 01:32:38,440
as a nation, where music is considered music,

2208
01:32:38,440 --> 01:32:40,040
I'm talking about real music.

2209
01:32:40,040 --> 01:32:40,880
Yes.

2210
01:32:40,880 --> 01:32:41,720
Yeah.

2211
01:32:42,720 --> 01:32:44,160
And whatever we hear now,

2212
01:32:44,160 --> 01:32:45,160
the young people hearing today,

2213
01:32:45,160 --> 01:32:46,920
they think it's good.

2214
01:32:46,920 --> 01:32:49,120
You don't know what you've missed.

2215
01:32:49,120 --> 01:32:50,040
You know what I mean?

2216
01:32:50,040 --> 01:32:50,880
Yeah.

2217
01:32:50,880 --> 01:32:52,120
You don't know what you missed.

2218
01:32:52,120 --> 01:32:55,600
You know, actually, when we talk about music,

2219
01:32:55,600 --> 01:33:00,600
I would say that the current music singers,

2220
01:33:00,920 --> 01:33:03,600
people like Bruno Mars, who create songs

2221
01:33:03,600 --> 01:33:07,000
that has elements of soul train elements,

2222
01:33:07,000 --> 01:33:08,760
and all those, you know?

2223
01:33:08,760 --> 01:33:13,760
So that really, when he came to Singapore

2224
01:33:14,200 --> 01:33:17,640
a couple of years back, my husband and I,

2225
01:33:17,640 --> 01:33:22,240
we bought the most expensive ticket

2226
01:33:22,240 --> 01:33:24,520
just to watch him perform,

2227
01:33:24,520 --> 01:33:29,520
and try to understand why is this guy,

2228
01:33:29,520 --> 01:33:32,440
or his show is different.

2229
01:33:32,440 --> 01:33:33,400
Different, right?

2230
01:33:33,400 --> 01:33:34,360
Yeah.

2231
01:33:34,360 --> 01:33:39,360
So when we went to watch him, we can understand

2232
01:33:40,720 --> 01:33:45,720
because first of all, he sings from his heart.

2233
01:33:45,960 --> 01:33:46,800
Okay?

2234
01:33:46,800 --> 01:33:50,920
His musicians perform like it was their last performance.

2235
01:33:50,920 --> 01:33:51,760
Oh wow.

2236
01:33:51,760 --> 01:33:52,600
You know?

2237
01:33:52,600 --> 01:33:57,600
He, he's, it's just spectacular.

2238
01:33:57,720 --> 01:33:58,560
You know?

2239
01:33:58,560 --> 01:34:00,080
Simple, very simple.

2240
01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:05,080
It's like watching, it's like watching Jackson 5,

2241
01:34:05,120 --> 01:34:06,280
Boys 2 Men.

2242
01:34:06,280 --> 01:34:07,360
All roll into one.

2243
01:34:07,360 --> 01:34:09,720
Boy group, whatever, all into one.

2244
01:34:09,720 --> 01:34:14,720
And then you've got these elements of funk, hip hop, rock,

2245
01:34:15,000 --> 01:34:16,440
everything into one.

2246
01:34:16,440 --> 01:34:20,720
And the love songs, you know, it's just like, wow.

2247
01:34:20,720 --> 01:34:21,560
This guy's got it all.

2248
01:34:21,560 --> 01:34:23,080
It's amazing.

2249
01:34:23,080 --> 01:34:24,160
Filipino.

2250
01:34:24,160 --> 01:34:25,120
Yep, here we go.

2251
01:34:25,120 --> 01:34:26,680
Blood, you know?

2252
01:34:26,680 --> 01:34:28,480
They've got that, you know, that soul.

2253
01:34:28,480 --> 01:34:29,400
Look at Journey, man.

2254
01:34:29,400 --> 01:34:33,000
Journey is still moving on so well without Steve Perry

2255
01:34:33,000 --> 01:34:34,720
with Arnel, you know?

2256
01:34:34,720 --> 01:34:36,160
And Arnel's Filipino.

2257
01:34:36,160 --> 01:34:37,000
Yes.

2258
01:34:37,000 --> 01:34:38,720
And that guy can carry us, can carry,

2259
01:34:38,720 --> 01:34:41,240
can carry a performance, you know?

2260
01:34:41,240 --> 01:34:44,520
And can carry the notes that Steve Perry left behind

2261
01:34:44,520 --> 01:34:46,840
his legacy, you know, as far as I'm concerned.

2262
01:34:46,840 --> 01:34:49,600
It's hard to do with Steve Perry, man.

2263
01:34:49,600 --> 01:34:51,840
And Journey is still, I mean, the rest of the guys,

2264
01:34:51,840 --> 01:34:54,080
the original members are all freaking old now,

2265
01:34:54,080 --> 01:34:54,920
but they're still going on.

2266
01:34:54,920 --> 01:34:56,120
They're still going on tours.

2267
01:34:56,120 --> 01:34:56,960
Yes.

2268
01:34:56,960 --> 01:34:58,880
I mean, longevity.

2269
01:34:58,880 --> 01:35:01,400
But the Filipinos, the moment, you see,

2270
01:35:01,400 --> 01:35:04,000
that's why Dennis Fu was really clever before.

2271
01:35:04,000 --> 01:35:07,120
Brought in the Filipinos and gave Singapore musicians

2272
01:35:07,120 --> 01:35:08,400
competition.

2273
01:35:08,400 --> 01:35:10,960
When these guys came in, they were like serious

2274
01:35:10,960 --> 01:35:11,800
about their stuff.

2275
01:35:11,800 --> 01:35:14,000
They were, they were passionate.

2276
01:35:14,000 --> 01:35:14,840
Yes.

2277
01:35:14,840 --> 01:35:16,640
And the talent was raw.

2278
01:35:16,640 --> 01:35:19,280
I mean, raw in a sense that it's not technical, as you said.

2279
01:35:19,280 --> 01:35:20,440
They're all musical.

2280
01:35:20,440 --> 01:35:21,600
Yes.

2281
01:35:21,600 --> 01:35:22,440
It was brilliant.

2282
01:35:22,440 --> 01:35:23,280
It was brilliant.

2283
01:35:23,280 --> 01:35:24,800
Those were brilliant years.

2284
01:35:24,800 --> 01:35:28,760
And a lot of our own musicians grew, had no choice.

2285
01:35:28,760 --> 01:35:31,520
Then we had the likes of the late and great

2286
01:35:31,520 --> 01:35:34,360
Iskander Ismail, then we had Kay Hammett.

2287
01:35:34,360 --> 01:35:39,000
And our bands were made to go, we've got to really up our game.

2288
01:35:39,000 --> 01:35:39,600
Yes.

2289
01:35:39,600 --> 01:35:41,320
And they were upping the game, you know,

2290
01:35:41,320 --> 01:35:46,920
and which people like me on the other side was just enjoying it.

2291
01:35:46,920 --> 01:35:47,600
Yeah.

2292
01:35:47,600 --> 01:35:49,520
Because I go in and I hear good music.

2293
01:35:49,520 --> 01:35:50,800
I watch great performances.

2294
01:35:50,800 --> 01:35:52,360
It's fantastic.

2295
01:35:52,360 --> 01:35:56,480
And in those days, we never had the likes of Taylor Swift

2296
01:35:56,480 --> 01:35:58,280
coming to Singapore for concerts.

2297
01:35:58,280 --> 01:35:59,720
You know, U2 co-play.

2298
01:35:59,720 --> 01:36:02,040
No, we didn't have the luxury, man.

2299
01:36:02,040 --> 01:36:02,560
No.

2300
01:36:02,560 --> 01:36:04,240
No, we really didn't.

2301
01:36:04,240 --> 01:36:09,720
I was at fucking Boney M in 1978 or something like that.

2302
01:36:09,720 --> 01:36:10,080
Right.

2303
01:36:10,080 --> 01:36:13,560
And one of the concerts that we have, no, none.

2304
01:36:13,560 --> 01:36:14,240
Yeah.

2305
01:36:14,240 --> 01:36:15,640
We had nothing.

2306
01:36:15,640 --> 01:36:19,320
But what we did have, though, were our own.

2307
01:36:19,320 --> 01:36:20,600
Yes.

2308
01:36:20,600 --> 01:36:21,480
Music.

2309
01:36:21,480 --> 01:36:22,160
Yes.

2310
01:36:22,160 --> 01:36:24,120
In this country.

2311
01:36:24,120 --> 01:36:24,480
You know.

2312
01:36:24,480 --> 01:36:25,640
Exactly, bro.

2313
01:36:25,640 --> 01:36:29,760
And even playing on radio by great radio jocks, man.

2314
01:36:29,760 --> 01:36:34,720
Even going into any bar, you know you're going to get something

2315
01:36:34,720 --> 01:36:36,880
really good enough, at least.

2316
01:36:36,880 --> 01:36:41,360
You know, I don't know if you have ever seen this.

2317
01:36:41,360 --> 01:36:48,040
I think it was some New Year celebration or whatever.

2318
01:36:48,040 --> 01:36:49,560
OK?

2319
01:36:49,560 --> 01:36:51,880
It was like way back in the 90s, I think.

2320
01:36:51,880 --> 01:36:52,520
Right.

2321
01:36:52,520 --> 01:36:53,320
Is it 90s?

2322
01:36:53,320 --> 01:36:54,880
Singapore?

2323
01:36:54,880 --> 01:36:55,880
No, no, no, no.

2324
01:36:55,880 --> 01:36:56,680
Millennium Countdown.

2325
01:36:56,680 --> 01:36:58,080
No, it was on TV.

2326
01:36:58,080 --> 01:36:59,640
I remember watching it.

2327
01:36:59,640 --> 01:37:00,680
OK.

2328
01:37:00,680 --> 01:37:02,400
It was Anita.

2329
01:37:02,400 --> 01:37:02,880
OK.

2330
01:37:02,880 --> 01:37:03,840
It was Anita.

2331
01:37:03,840 --> 01:37:07,600
It was so many of this.

2332
01:37:07,600 --> 01:37:10,280
I think it was Rolling Good Times.

2333
01:37:10,280 --> 01:37:11,600
Rolling Good Times.

2334
01:37:11,600 --> 01:37:13,080
Reunion or something like that.

2335
01:37:13,080 --> 01:37:14,280
Anita Zerot never came back.

2336
01:37:14,280 --> 01:37:14,800
No, no.

2337
01:37:14,800 --> 01:37:15,440
OK.

2338
01:37:15,440 --> 01:37:16,240
Maybe not.

2339
01:37:16,240 --> 01:37:16,960
They had Douglas.

2340
01:37:16,960 --> 01:37:17,680
They had Anne.

2341
01:37:17,680 --> 01:37:18,200
Yeah, yeah.

2342
01:37:18,200 --> 01:37:22,720
They had Rito.

2343
01:37:22,720 --> 01:37:26,240
Gondz.

2344
01:37:26,240 --> 01:37:27,160
What's her name?

2345
01:37:27,160 --> 01:37:29,440
Gosh.

2346
01:37:29,440 --> 01:37:30,160
Gronzal.

2347
01:37:30,160 --> 01:37:31,080
Gronzal.

2348
01:37:31,080 --> 01:37:31,640
I don't know.

2349
01:37:31,640 --> 01:37:32,520
Oh, Anita Grande.

2350
01:37:32,520 --> 01:37:33,400
Yeah.

2351
01:37:33,400 --> 01:37:34,000
Burung Kakak.

2352
01:37:34,000 --> 01:37:34,960
Yes.

2353
01:37:34,960 --> 01:37:38,680
And then they had so many.

2354
01:37:38,680 --> 01:37:40,960
But basically, they came out and did their bit.

2355
01:37:40,960 --> 01:37:41,680
Yeah, yeah.

2356
01:37:41,680 --> 01:37:43,760
That was a Rolling Good Times concert.

2357
01:37:43,760 --> 01:37:44,240
Was it?

2358
01:37:44,240 --> 01:37:44,560
Yeah.

2359
01:37:44,560 --> 01:37:47,080
And then they had the winners come back to perform and all

2360
01:37:47,080 --> 01:37:47,600
that.

2361
01:37:47,600 --> 01:37:48,120
No, no.

2362
01:37:48,120 --> 01:37:49,120
Rito.

2363
01:37:49,120 --> 01:37:49,880
No, no.

2364
01:37:49,880 --> 01:37:50,600
I don't think so.

2365
01:37:50,600 --> 01:37:53,680
I think it was just a New Year celebration.

2366
01:37:53,680 --> 01:37:54,320
Oh, really?

2367
01:37:54,320 --> 01:37:55,520
It was fantastic.

2368
01:37:55,520 --> 01:37:56,920
Oh, my god.

2369
01:37:56,920 --> 01:38:00,640
No, this, you will never be able to get that.

2370
01:38:00,640 --> 01:38:01,400
You won't.

2371
01:38:01,400 --> 01:38:03,280
People forget who Anita Zerot was.

2372
01:38:03,280 --> 01:38:04,320
Even Catherine Ong.

2373
01:38:04,320 --> 01:38:05,000
Remember Catherine Ong?

2374
01:38:05,000 --> 01:38:05,600
Yes.

2375
01:38:05,600 --> 01:38:05,960
Yeah.

2376
01:38:05,960 --> 01:38:06,880
Oh, my god.

2377
01:38:06,880 --> 01:38:07,640
Yeah.

2378
01:38:07,640 --> 01:38:10,080
Those were amazing years, man.

2379
01:38:10,080 --> 01:38:13,120
I mean, real live wires on stage.

2380
01:38:13,120 --> 01:38:14,960
People could go on TV.

2381
01:38:14,960 --> 01:38:19,320
People would go live on stage at a club, on stage anywhere.

2382
01:38:19,320 --> 01:38:19,600
Yeah.

2383
01:38:19,600 --> 01:38:20,280
For that matter.

2384
01:38:20,280 --> 01:38:22,560
There's no perception of you sing in a club,

2385
01:38:22,560 --> 01:38:23,920
you cannot sing for this event.

2386
01:38:23,920 --> 01:38:24,520
Nothing like that.

2387
01:38:24,520 --> 01:38:25,720
Nowadays, you have that, no?

2388
01:38:25,720 --> 01:38:26,240
Yeah.

2389
01:38:26,240 --> 01:38:31,040
But in the past, what media used to do, Channel 5, Channel 8,

2390
01:38:31,040 --> 01:38:33,200
you go to a club, or in those days,

2391
01:38:33,200 --> 01:38:34,880
you call them discos or a bar.

2392
01:38:34,880 --> 01:38:35,760
You hear a good band.

2393
01:38:35,760 --> 01:38:39,000
You invite them to the TV studio and they perform.

2394
01:38:39,000 --> 01:38:39,520
Yes.

2395
01:38:39,520 --> 01:38:42,040
That's how we knew people like Gypsy,

2396
01:38:42,040 --> 01:38:43,840
including Tokyo Squaredge and Jabret.

2397
01:38:43,840 --> 01:38:46,640
But these guys were playing in clubs.

2398
01:38:46,640 --> 01:38:49,840
And they were also performing for televised audience.

2399
01:38:49,840 --> 01:38:50,520
You know what I mean?

2400
01:38:50,520 --> 01:38:53,080
I mean, that was great.

2401
01:38:53,080 --> 01:38:56,200
Everyone was working hand in hand to promote music together

2402
01:38:56,200 --> 01:38:56,720
in Singapore.

2403
01:38:56,720 --> 01:38:57,240
Exactly.

2404
01:38:57,240 --> 01:38:59,040
That is what I was trying to do.

2405
01:38:59,040 --> 01:39:04,960
If only you have the support from every channel,

2406
01:39:04,960 --> 01:39:08,800
from any channel that has got to do with the media,

2407
01:39:08,800 --> 01:39:15,680
from the newspaper to radio.

2408
01:39:15,680 --> 01:39:18,200
But they're only promoting their own people now.

2409
01:39:18,200 --> 01:39:19,640
That is what I'm saying.

2410
01:39:19,640 --> 01:39:20,560
Why though?

2411
01:39:20,560 --> 01:39:24,160
They're promoting the news of their own artists,

2412
01:39:24,160 --> 01:39:28,280
their own artists in Today, or I'm saying already,

2413
01:39:28,280 --> 01:39:31,040
CNA, or you know.

2414
01:39:31,040 --> 01:39:33,480
Back then, you have so many different races.

2415
01:39:33,480 --> 01:39:36,160
And everybody's like, it's like watching.

2416
01:39:36,160 --> 01:39:41,480
The bands were such a great example of multiracialism.

2417
01:39:41,480 --> 01:39:44,360
When you have Singaporeans, even if they're not Singaporeans,

2418
01:39:44,360 --> 01:39:45,040
it doesn't matter.

2419
01:39:45,040 --> 01:39:46,560
There was no xenophobia involved.

2420
01:39:46,560 --> 01:39:47,680
You come together.

2421
01:39:47,680 --> 01:39:48,680
You can have an Indian.

2422
01:39:48,680 --> 01:39:50,160
You can have a couple of Chinese.

2423
01:39:50,160 --> 01:39:51,400
You've got Eurasians in there.

2424
01:39:51,400 --> 01:39:52,720
You've got Malays in there.

2425
01:39:52,720 --> 01:39:55,720
And then we were making music together.

2426
01:39:55,720 --> 01:40:00,640
And I think that is such an important facet of our social

2427
01:40:00,640 --> 01:40:02,440
compact, in my opinion.

2428
01:40:02,440 --> 01:40:07,840
And we cannot lose music here in Singapore.

2429
01:40:07,840 --> 01:40:09,360
We can't.

2430
01:40:09,360 --> 01:40:10,760
It really hurts me.

2431
01:40:10,760 --> 01:40:12,160
It really does.

2432
01:40:12,160 --> 01:40:17,280
Anyway, we're going to end the show in a special way.

2433
01:40:17,280 --> 01:40:19,640
And guys, you will enjoy this.

2434
01:40:19,640 --> 01:40:21,040
I hope you will.

2435
01:40:21,040 --> 01:40:25,400
Because not every time I get a chance to sing over Diva.

2436
01:40:25,400 --> 01:40:29,000
But just before we do that, just before I break into song

2437
01:40:29,000 --> 01:40:32,760
together with Aliyah, I want to show you this video.

2438
01:40:32,760 --> 01:40:34,520
Because I don't want this to be confused.

2439
01:40:34,520 --> 01:40:37,200
Because we're singing a love song together.

2440
01:40:37,200 --> 01:40:43,480
And this lady, she is so madly in love with a man she married.

2441
01:40:43,480 --> 01:40:46,000
And vice versa, the man who married her

2442
01:40:46,000 --> 01:40:47,800
is so madly in love with her.

2443
01:40:47,800 --> 01:40:50,760
My goodness, these two people are on my socials.

2444
01:40:50,760 --> 01:40:53,640
The lovey dovey things they write to each other openly

2445
01:40:53,640 --> 01:40:55,880
in public or online until I can die.

2446
01:40:55,880 --> 01:40:59,120
It's so saccharine, I get diabetes.

2447
01:40:59,120 --> 01:41:03,360
Before you tell, I need to explain.

2448
01:41:03,360 --> 01:41:08,760
Whenever we write all this lovey dovey stuff on our social

2449
01:41:08,760 --> 01:41:11,120
media, we mean everything.

2450
01:41:11,120 --> 01:41:13,080
And we like to surprise each other.

2451
01:41:13,080 --> 01:41:15,520
When he wakes up in the morning, he

2452
01:41:15,520 --> 01:41:17,600
will make coffee for me.

2453
01:41:17,600 --> 01:41:19,960
He'll make coffee for me, and then he opens his Instagram

2454
01:41:19,960 --> 01:41:21,840
and he sees something.

2455
01:41:21,840 --> 01:41:22,840
So sweet.

2456
01:41:22,840 --> 01:41:24,440
He'll be like, oh!

2457
01:41:24,440 --> 01:41:26,320
But you must remember, the rest of the bloody world

2458
01:41:26,320 --> 01:41:27,480
is reading it too.

2459
01:41:27,480 --> 01:41:30,320
And I go, oh my, there they go again, these two.

2460
01:41:30,320 --> 01:41:30,800
See?

2461
01:41:30,800 --> 01:41:34,240
Then they should, y'all also must do.

2462
01:41:34,240 --> 01:41:36,040
I tell you, it works wonders, man.

2463
01:41:36,040 --> 01:41:39,240
OK, OK, OK.

2464
01:41:39,240 --> 01:41:41,600
I'm going to be singing with her.

2465
01:41:41,600 --> 01:41:45,120
But you got to see, this guy, I'm like Brad Ampit.

2466
01:41:45,120 --> 01:41:46,800
This one's really Brad Ampit.

2467
01:41:46,800 --> 01:41:52,160
So you take a look at this particular video

2468
01:41:52,160 --> 01:41:55,160
and how these two gutter live each other on stage.

2469
01:41:55,160 --> 01:41:57,200
Can we play that one, please, guy?

2470
01:41:57,200 --> 01:41:58,520
Oh my god, what video is this?

2471
01:42:04,880 --> 01:42:06,320
Oh, my baby.

2472
01:42:06,320 --> 01:42:07,160
My baby.

2473
01:42:07,160 --> 01:42:08,760
You see, take a look at that guy, man.

2474
01:42:08,760 --> 01:42:09,440
Come on.

2475
01:42:09,440 --> 01:42:10,040
My baby.

2476
01:42:13,040 --> 01:42:13,720
You look at that.

2477
01:42:13,720 --> 01:42:14,760
You look at that, dude.

2478
01:42:14,760 --> 01:42:15,880
You just look at that, dude.

2479
01:42:15,880 --> 01:42:17,720
God is not fair.

2480
01:42:20,480 --> 01:42:21,200
My sayang.

2481
01:42:21,200 --> 01:42:21,680
That one.

2482
01:42:21,680 --> 01:42:22,520
Oh.

2483
01:42:22,520 --> 01:42:23,040
I know.

2484
01:42:23,040 --> 01:42:28,000
If I don't have to be a lady, I can fall in love with him too, man.

2485
01:42:28,000 --> 01:42:31,520
To be honest with you, when we're on stage,

2486
01:42:31,520 --> 01:42:33,080
we are like that at home.

2487
01:42:33,080 --> 01:42:33,800
Really?

2488
01:42:33,800 --> 01:42:35,920
Until today.

2489
01:42:35,920 --> 01:42:40,520
What I'm saying is, life is so unfair.

2490
01:42:40,520 --> 01:42:42,160
That guy's got everything, man.

2491
01:42:42,160 --> 01:42:47,200
Look at that face, look at the physique, look at the talent.

2492
01:42:47,200 --> 01:42:49,760
Geez, it's not fair, man.

2493
01:42:49,760 --> 01:42:52,240
When you're younger, so you're handsome.

2494
01:42:52,240 --> 01:42:53,320
When I'm younger.

2495
01:42:53,320 --> 01:42:54,720
Now also still handsome.

2496
01:42:54,720 --> 01:42:55,760
No, excuse me.

2497
01:42:55,760 --> 01:42:58,720
I got hit by a lorry.

2498
01:42:58,720 --> 01:43:00,720
This is called fugly.

2499
01:43:00,720 --> 01:43:01,680
No.

2500
01:43:01,680 --> 01:43:02,200
Rubbish.

2501
01:43:02,200 --> 01:43:03,000
Look at that.

2502
01:43:03,000 --> 01:43:06,120
That is gorgeous, man.

2503
01:43:09,320 --> 01:43:10,680
Yeah.

2504
01:43:10,680 --> 01:43:11,320
I'm a guy.

2505
01:43:11,320 --> 01:43:14,880
And I got to say, that man is fucking gorgeous.

2506
01:43:18,880 --> 01:43:21,280
Water la pour.

2507
01:43:21,280 --> 01:43:23,080
Don't prepare.

2508
01:43:23,080 --> 01:43:25,080
What's he so happy?

2509
01:43:25,080 --> 01:43:26,480
She's even happier, isn't she?

2510
01:43:26,480 --> 01:43:27,800
Say, my darling.

2511
01:43:27,800 --> 01:43:28,480
Darling.

2512
01:43:33,080 --> 01:43:33,600
Wow.

2513
01:43:33,600 --> 01:43:39,200
Tell me, Bodo Bodo Bodo.

2514
01:43:39,200 --> 01:43:43,120
Tell me, Kwando Kwando Kwando.

2515
01:43:43,120 --> 01:43:46,360
My darling, I miss performing for him.

2516
01:43:46,360 --> 01:43:47,120
I mean for him.

2517
01:43:47,120 --> 01:43:48,080
I mean with him.

2518
01:43:50,520 --> 01:43:52,720
Oh, do tell.

2519
01:43:52,720 --> 01:43:53,720
I want to know.

2520
01:43:56,840 --> 01:43:59,440
No children should be watching this show, so don't worry.

2521
01:43:59,440 --> 01:43:59,960
Yeah.

2522
01:43:59,960 --> 01:44:04,720
When will you see us too?

2523
01:44:04,720 --> 01:44:06,000
I tell you, really, man.

2524
01:44:06,000 --> 01:44:08,520
I mean, this is so damn saccharine, man.

2525
01:44:08,520 --> 01:44:12,280
Tell me, Lao Kuang Lao Kuang

2526
01:44:12,280 --> 01:44:15,520
Tell me, Lao Kuang Lao Kuang

2527
01:44:15,520 --> 01:44:17,880
And this is impromptu.

2528
01:44:17,880 --> 01:44:18,880
Impromptu.

2529
01:44:18,880 --> 01:44:23,520
Chill me, have never missed you.

2530
01:44:23,520 --> 01:44:25,560
Oh, my darling.

2531
01:44:25,560 --> 01:44:27,120
My darling.

2532
01:44:27,120 --> 01:44:27,640
My darling.

2533
01:44:27,640 --> 01:44:28,240
OK, Kai.

2534
01:44:28,240 --> 01:44:29,720
I think that should suffice, man.

2535
01:44:29,720 --> 01:44:34,320
I'm going to lose all my teeth because of all the sugar that I'm watching on the freaking

2536
01:44:34,320 --> 01:44:38,480
screen that's going down my gullet at this point and get diabetes at the same time.

2537
01:44:38,480 --> 01:44:40,360
I'm going to have a shot of bloody insulin.

2538
01:44:40,360 --> 01:44:42,360
Yeah, my goodness me.

2539
01:44:42,360 --> 01:44:45,760
Anyway, Aliyah, I thank you so very much, really.

2540
01:44:45,760 --> 01:44:48,240
I hope you've enjoyed yourself today.

2541
01:44:48,240 --> 01:44:50,680
It's been almost two hours, man.

2542
01:44:50,680 --> 01:44:52,440
I cannot believe it either.

2543
01:44:52,440 --> 01:45:00,880
You know, I feel like it's been so long that I actually spoke about me.

2544
01:45:00,880 --> 01:45:01,480
Yeah.

2545
01:45:01,480 --> 01:45:03,880
And people should speak more about themselves.

2546
01:45:03,880 --> 01:45:09,880
I enjoy doing this tribute show because practically almost every one of my guests say that.

2547
01:45:09,880 --> 01:45:10,400
Yeah.

2548
01:45:10,400 --> 01:45:15,560
You know, Chris, I've not spoken about me, you know, and then people should.

2549
01:45:15,560 --> 01:45:21,240
You should talk about you because when we have this crazy Asian concept of about, let's

2550
01:45:21,240 --> 01:45:25,720
be humble, but that doesn't mean you don't have a story to tell.

2551
01:45:25,720 --> 01:45:26,200
Yeah.

2552
01:45:26,200 --> 01:45:29,960
It doesn't mean you don't have something that you've done that means something to people.

2553
01:45:29,960 --> 01:45:30,600
Yeah.

2554
01:45:30,600 --> 01:45:34,040
And if you have, then say it, right?

2555
01:45:34,040 --> 01:45:35,640
And we've got to learn that, man.

2556
01:45:35,640 --> 01:45:38,760
We've got to learn to just say, I did this.

2557
01:45:38,760 --> 01:45:39,400
Yeah.

2558
01:45:39,400 --> 01:45:40,200
And you did.

2559
01:45:40,200 --> 01:45:44,320
And as I said, and I'm going to repeat this now, I said this is the start of the show.

2560
01:45:44,320 --> 01:45:47,160
I'm going to say this to end the show.

2561
01:45:47,160 --> 01:45:54,200
I, no one except for James Ingram and you have made me cry when they sing.

2562
01:45:54,200 --> 01:45:56,040
Oh, thank you so much.

2563
01:45:56,040 --> 01:46:04,760
And you have so, so often on more than just one occasion when you sing, I go, oh, thank

2564
01:46:04,760 --> 01:46:05,400
you, Chris.

2565
01:46:05,400 --> 01:46:12,840
And honestly, honestly, man, I mean, if there's any diva I'm proud to say I know, besides

2566
01:46:12,840 --> 01:46:14,840
Anne.

2567
01:46:14,840 --> 01:46:17,800
Of course, Anne.

2568
01:46:17,800 --> 01:46:21,240
It's you, you know, and I'm proud to be your friend.

2569
01:46:21,240 --> 01:46:22,360
Thank you so much, Chris.

2570
01:46:22,360 --> 01:46:31,800
Thank you for thinking of me, for having me here to talk about my journey in this beautiful

2571
01:46:33,320 --> 01:46:34,360
business.

2572
01:46:34,360 --> 01:46:35,000
Yeah.

2573
01:46:35,000 --> 01:46:36,200
It is a beautiful business.

2574
01:46:37,240 --> 01:46:39,800
Everyone, I've had Alia D.

2575
01:46:41,080 --> 01:46:41,880
Alia D.

2576
01:46:41,880 --> 01:46:44,840
Alia D on the Chris Hansen conversation.

2577
01:46:44,840 --> 01:46:47,160
I hope you've been enjoying the season so far.

2578
01:46:47,880 --> 01:46:52,200
Four more episodes to go before season three ends.

2579
01:46:52,840 --> 01:46:54,280
And this is Chris Hansen.

2580
01:46:54,280 --> 01:46:56,120
Don't forget, subscribe.

2581
01:46:56,760 --> 01:47:00,600
Don't forget, hit the notification button, hit the freaking bell.

2582
01:47:00,600 --> 01:47:01,400
Yeah.

2583
01:47:01,400 --> 01:47:06,440
Like, follow, comment, say I look stupid and say, and say I look fugly too if you want.

2584
01:47:06,440 --> 01:47:07,960
I don't care, but say something.

2585
01:47:08,840 --> 01:47:11,320
This has been the Chris Hansen conversation.

2586
01:47:11,320 --> 01:47:13,240
I'll see you again real soon.

2587
01:47:13,960 --> 01:47:16,920
And really, it's been two hours.

2588
01:47:16,920 --> 01:47:18,440
Gotta go have my dinner.

2589
01:47:18,440 --> 01:47:18,920
Good night.

2590
01:47:18,920 --> 01:47:41,160
Good night.

2591
01:47:48,920 --> 01:47:53,160
Oh,

2592
01:47:53,960 --> 01:47:55,160
tonight,

2593
01:47:56,200 --> 01:47:59,000
no one's gonna find us.

2594
01:47:59,960 --> 01:48:03,160
We'll leave the world behind us.

2595
01:48:05,160 --> 01:48:07,160
When I'm in love with you.

2596
01:48:09,880 --> 01:48:11,640
Tonight,

2597
01:48:11,640 --> 01:48:17,160
I celebrate my love for you.

2598
01:48:17,160 --> 01:48:25,160
And hope that deep inside you feel it too

2599
01:48:25,160 --> 01:48:31,160
Tonight our spirits will be climbing

2600
01:48:31,160 --> 01:48:36,160
To a sky lit up with diamonds

2601
01:48:36,160 --> 01:48:41,160
When I make love to you

2602
01:48:41,160 --> 01:48:49,160
Tonight

2603
01:48:49,160 --> 01:48:57,160
Tonight I'll celebrate my love for you

2604
01:48:57,160 --> 01:49:05,160
And the midnight sun is gonna come shine on you

2605
01:49:05,160 --> 01:49:12,160
Tonight there'll be no distance between us

2606
01:49:12,160 --> 01:49:16,160
What I will miss to do

2607
01:49:16,160 --> 01:49:21,160
Is to get close to you

2608
01:49:21,160 --> 01:49:29,160
Tonight

2609
01:49:29,160 --> 01:49:37,160
Tonight I'll celebrate my love for you

2610
01:49:37,160 --> 01:49:45,160
And hope that deep inside you feel it too

2611
01:49:45,160 --> 01:49:51,160
Tonight we will both discover

2612
01:49:51,160 --> 01:49:56,160
How friends turn into lovers

2613
01:49:56,160 --> 01:50:01,160
When I make love to you

2614
01:50:01,160 --> 01:50:09,160
Tonight I'll celebrate my love for you

2615
01:50:09,160 --> 01:50:17,160
And the midnight sun is gonna come shine on you

2616
01:50:17,160 --> 01:50:24,160
Tonight there'll be no distance between us

2617
01:50:24,160 --> 01:50:28,160
What I will miss to do

2618
01:50:28,160 --> 01:50:33,160
Is to get close to you

2619
01:50:33,160 --> 01:50:42,160
Tonight

2620
01:50:42,160 --> 01:50:48,160
Tonight

2621
01:50:48,160 --> 01:50:50,160
What a man!

2622
01:50:50,160 --> 01:50:58,160
I tell you I got steam in my ears, my ears are steaming hot man!

2623
01:50:58,160 --> 01:51:00,160
Thank you madam.

2624
01:51:00,160 --> 01:51:25,160
Thank you Chris, thank you.