Nice, eh?
Yeah, you should be.
Actually, you should be.
You should be.
You started in a hotbar, didn't you?
Wait, why are you doing that instead of just asking what year I was born?
Because I'm being polite, man.
No, I'm just asking.
Underneath this gruff exterior, people always think that, you know, Chris, you know, this
guy's a fucking gruff guy.
Yeah, must be full of force.
Yeah, yeah.
And, and, you know, I'm just being polite.
You started in a hotbar, didn't you?
Yeah, I did.
Yeah.
Well, even before that, I started in a...
I didn't know.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Music and drama company?
Oh, yes, yes, yes.
Yes, MDC.
MDC, yeah.
Yeah, that's it.
But Ghermitte came to be Ghermitte in Hotbar Villa, right?
What do you mean by Ghermitte?
Come here, come on, man.
Come on, come on, come on.
You are probably...
Is, is, is you're like the...
Let me find the right word for this.
Are we ever gonna establish who's older before we get to that?
This is going on and on.
I was born...
This is like a Bollywood movie, right?
It's a lot of labyrinthation.
I was born in 1965.
I didn't know that.
I was born in 1965.
You're five years older than me.
Five?
Wow.
Thank you very much.
Yeah, I know, I know I look so young.
Yeah.
What the hell?
Really?
That bad?
No, you gotta be, you gotta be because, you know, Hotbar and all is way before my time.
Oh yeah.
I only hear stories about people there.
I was in Hotbar in 1988 to 1992, four years.
Yeah.
Wow.
And I heard rumors.
Oh no.
I heard rumors, man.
Ghermitte Singh, back in Hotbar Villa.
Yes.
You played drag as well, didn't you?
No.
That's Kuma.
That's not me.
What are you talking about?
That's Kuma's history.
Some people who knew you back then in Hotbar told me Ghermitte was also a drag.
No, no, no.
Okay.
So the drag story, I think comes from MDC, music and drama company, even earlier.
Holy shit.
Okay.
So you did do drag.
I did do drag and it's only because Najib Ali, and I was just a, what, Lance Corporal
then, right?
Music and drama company.
And he comes across us and he says, Hey, I got this show going and all that.
And I think you'd be good to play the part.
I said, what the part is that?
It's a woman's part.
I said, what?
Sorry.
Hello.
And then he told me, he said, if Dustin Hoffman can do it in Tootsie, why can't you?
You know, I'm just asking you to play the part.
So he told me a story.
I'm supposed to play this queen and it's set in a Legends discotheque.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
So I play this queen, very glamorous queen.
And then I have my four female dancers and all that.
It's a dance show as well.
Richard Chia is the astronaut that lands on our planet.
And then we do a dance number and all that.
I mean, that's the summary.
I am cutting it short, but it ran over four weeks, four Mondays, I think, or four Tuesdays.
I can't remember now.
Maybe four Fridays.
More likely Fridays.
And each time we come out and I was decked from hair follicle down to my little teeny
toes as a woman.
Right?
I wore a corset.
I had long wigs.
I had eyelashes.
I had nails.
I had the works.
And in the disco tank, they were full of gays, they were full of transvestites and all that.
When they saw me, and I don't mean to brag, I was damn bloody beautiful.
I really was.
I was, I fell in love with myself.
You know, I should have asked you this question before the show, man.
I asked you, do you have any pictures of that shit?
Is this in over?
No.
I'll flash it up right now.
Actually, I have a picture of me, which I did for a different show, for Poh Chu Kang.
Okay.
In a moment, I'll show you the picture when you talk to me and all that.
So anyway, I do this show for one night a week.
And the fan base is increasing and increasing and increasing to the point where after every
night we finish the show, I come forward, we do bows, right?
And all the transvestites are like, oh, oh, oh, oh.
So proud of me.
They're so like, oh yes, we're represented and all that kind of thing.
I go into the changing room, I change out.
And when I come out, they're still looking for that, that queen.
I walk past them.
You don't recognize them.
Not at all.
So I think that's where the drag story starts.
And I did one drag for a photo shoot because of PCK.
Rosie is reminiscing about her previous employee, employer.
And she was her mentor.
And they thought who could play her mentor?
You know, this karaoke lounge mistress, mama son mentor.
They said, let's dress Kermit up.
And hence I came out with that one.
So basically, Gertrude Singh makes a very good drag queen.
Apparently so.
I've been told.
Not something to brag about.
I don't know.
Is there something to brag about?
And you never gave Kumar a run for the money.
No, I mean, he's funnier than I am.
So you know, to each his own.
But it was fun to try different things.
It was just for the fun of it.
Can you imagine I was dressed in drag before too, man.
Oh dear God.
Yeah, I know.
It was a horrible thing.
Why were you dressed in drag?
I've never seen a woman so damn ugly in my life.
How drunk were you?
It was for a show.
Oh, right.
Yeah, yeah.
It was something you had to do.
And people pay you money.
You just do that shit, right?
So for money, you do it.
My goodness.
The ugliest, bloodiest woman in the world.
You were.
You don't want to like flutter yourself.
I do not look good as a woman.
No.
I do not look good as a man.
Has your wife seen you?
The picture is gone.
I don't know what happened, man.
Oh, really?
Okay.
It's loading up.
You got a lousy Wi-Fi here.
Oh, thank you very much.
It is a studio.
It's a studio after all.
Thank you very much.
So there's testament to the quality of the studio.
It's so sound-packed that Wi-Fi cannot get inside here, apparently.
Good save.
Okay.
I'll try to find the picture when I can.
Oh, there we go.
Let me take a look, man.
I can put this up in post.
Oh, no way.
Yes way.
Can you send me that?
I'm going to put this up in post.
You sure you're not going to use it for personal use, right?
Oh, no, no.
Of course not.
It's just going to go up for the show and I will use it for my archives.
Your wife asking you, why are you in total so long?
Why are you with the phone?
No, nothing, honey.
I'm just testing my podcast.
This is gorgeous girl that's on my phone.
From Orchard I was.
I got to put that one up.
That is really something.
And I'm going to send you a picture of her.
I'm going to send you a picture of her.
Welcome everybody to season three.
It's a brand new season.
I hope you guys had a good break from me.
Go down to that.
But we are back.
I'm happy to be back.
Back in studio, back in CCB TV and back for the Chris Hansen conversation.
But I got to let you know though, today is the fourth of January.
You're watching this in March.
The reason why I'm saying this is because I have with me, again every time this guy
comes on my show, it has to rain.
The first time he came on my show, it rained.
I have a weak bladder.
Can't help it.
Is that what you mean?
Oh you mean the actual rain?
The actual rain.
The weather is so rainy.
Every time I have him with me, it's bloody rains and I don't know why.
I have with me in studio, Gurmit Singh.
Hi guys, hi everybody.
Welcome to season three.
Am I the first guest on season three?
Yes you are.
Oh my god.
Finally I'm first in something.
I've never first before.
Never.
This is the first episode for the new season man.
Wow.
I'm honored.
And you know, the reason why I mention it, I usually don't like to mention dates because
people then know it's pre-recorded but I really don't give a shit anymore.
It is pre-recorded.
We don't censor anything.
That's one thing for a fact.
It's raw, uncensored, unadulterated.
That's what the show is all about.
But the reason why I mention it, did you have your spaghetti today?
My who?
What?
Did I have my spaghetti today?
Did you have your spaghetti today?
Today is International Spaghetti Day.
No way.
I know, I'm always very confounded by these international days.
Who makes this up?
I don't know man.
Who does these things?
Can you and I now declare tomorrow will be International Ampid Hair Day?
I have no clue.
I don't know whether it's the UN that does this kind of thing.
Why is UN spending so much time doing this?
There are better things to do, right?
More important stuff.
This is going to be something that Americans have done probably.
Can somebody Google this?
Somebody who is watching this now listening to us, can you just find out why are these?
I mean, I appreciate the dates, but I'm just thinking, is that like these two guys in the
room somewhere in the world?
Figuring out what day should we make it tomorrow?
And I was once on the radio, we would do that also.
We would say today is whatever day, but sometimes the day would have multiple days.
Like it could be grandfather's day, it could be also spaghetti day, and also lick your
dog day.
Like why?
Why would you want to lick your dog?
But apparently there is a day for lick your dog.
No.
Yes.
No.
I'm making it up.
Yeah, exactly.
I would have thought so.
But you see how easy it is to just come up with something and say it's this day.
So you didn't have your pastor today, huh?
I didn't have my pastor today.
It's a good thing you didn't have your pastor, Germit.
You know what?
Because as usual, and for three seasons in a row, right here in front of us is probably
the crispiest.
Arguably.
Yep.
Fluffiest.
Ooh.
Vade's in the damn land, man.
Wow.
So it's not props.
Prawn vade's.
No, it's not props.
I mean, can you smell it from where you're sitting?
I don't know if it was that or it was you.
Maybe you are vade cologne.
I don't know.
This is what happens when I've been singing the show.
Now this cologne comes in all kinds of, you know.
Oh, gosh.
Now these colognes, I tell you, I read the description like, wait, what does this say?
I don't understand anymore.
It used to be just manly, earthly, womanly, flowery.
And now they got games you can't fucking pronounce, right?
Yeah, like what's that?
Is this a disinfectant or is it a deodorant?
No, no, no.
Let's get back to the point, man.
You're saying I smell like prawn vade's.
Which is a good thing.
I could eat you, man.
That didn't sound very right.
Hey, Gordon's vade's.
Sorry about this, man.
I'm trying to do this right.
But then again, people, the best, crispiest, fluffiest vade's of the damn land comes with
chutney too.
Homemade chutney, man.
Check that out.
And thank you again, Gordon's vade's for always feeding me and my guests.
You guys, it's on the screen.
Can I put that up just now?
Oh, man.
Can you hear that?
You need what?
There you go.
The contacts are there.
DJ, please.
How is it, man?
How is it?
Is it good?
Oh, that's good.
And you must have...
Smell it again.
Smell you?
Smell me.
Is that me?
Does it smell like me?
Oh, so much you.
Yeah, so much me.
Okay.
I want a crisp.
I mean a vade.
Oh, this is good.
Only Ghermette, man.
Only Ghermette can do stuff like that with me.
Okay.
And don't you realize it's this other person that's with us, man?
This other person?
Yeah.
Right here.
This one.
You call this a person?
I mean, come on.
You have very little friends.
Come on, man.
This guy crept his way into my home, man.
I mean, obviously it's an alien mask.
So...
No, it's not a mask.
It's an alien.
Yeah.
His name is Ubikaiu.
Tomkakebuke Ubikaiu?
Yeah.
Ubikaiu.
Yeah.
So, Ubikaiu is what we call a zeti reticulin.
What?
He says zeti reticulin.
Zeti reticulin.
Yeah.
What does that mean?
Zeti reticulin is a species of alien that they come from a binary star system called
zeti reticuli.
Zeta reticuli.
Before I reticuli.
We'll go back again.
So, they are different species...
I'm going to hiccups now.
I feel like I'll chill you.
Drink your coffee, man.
So, they are different species of aliens?
Yeah.
They are different species of aliens.
As a matter of fact, since you're...
I'm not supposed to bring that up now, but since you brought it up.
Bring it up.
Yeah.
We're going to bring this up on screen.
Kai, there you go.
Oh, wow.
There you go.
Well, basically, what people are saying, ufologists all over the world have realized that there
are these few species of aliens.
Reptilians, the reptilians are the ones that are basically hiding here in the world.
Already here.
Allegedly.
Okay.
Then there's the Anunnaki, whom people are saying were the ones that gave the started
civilization for...
I read about that.
Yeah, the Anunnaki.
The Reptiles one, I also know because there are a lot of boyars and we know they are already
here.
And these...
And the reptilians are supposed to be malicious.
Oh, malicious.
I thought you said Malaysian.
They are the ones that started the shadow government order and stuff like that.
That's what people are saying.
Okay.
I'm not saying I'm saying...
No, no, no.
We just explained.
Then we have the Pleiadians.
You can see the blonde girl.
Yep.
Kai, leave the picture up, man.
You see the blonde girl, the Pleiadian?
Yeah.
They're also known as the Nordics.
Wait, isn't Nordic the Vikings?
Exactly.
So these are the human-like alien species.
They're very tall.
The eyes are a little different though, you know, and these people are benevolent.
Right.
What does it mean, benevolent?
Benevolent means that these people are not here to harm the human race.
Right.
They're just chilling out.
Oh, no, not really.
They actually want to help the human race.
Oh, I see.
Okay.
So they're good people.
Apparently, apparently, apparently...
See, I'm going to sound like a quack all over again, man.
As if I am actually believing it.
I don't...
What, don't you believe it?
I don't disbelieve it.
Right.
But I'm not just going to take things at face value is what people are saying as well, right?
So these people are the ones that were rejected by the US government, allegedly, apparently,
and they decided to do business with the greys.
And you can see the greys...
Who's the greys?
Were the one...
The top left in the center, there are two types of greys.
One is called the zeta gray, which is this guy.
Okay?
The zeta greys, they come from the constellation Zeta reticuli.
Where is that?
Is it far away?
I will come to that very soon.
And there's another type of gray called the Gleaz gray.
And that's from another constellation.
And this guy, later on, you just remember that look on that face, yeah?
Right.
Okay, let me just show you this.
Since we're talking about this right now.
Kai, can you put up that one, the Peruvian one?
Look at that face.
It's like this guy.
Now, go ahead.
Was he found in Peru?
Yeah, found in Peru.
No way.
The Mexican Congress had a hearing where they wanted to investigate about these fines.
And the Peruvian government's a bit upset because it was taken out of Peru.
And this guy named Jamie Moisan, who is a ufologist, actually brought these three phosphorescent
fossilized bodies.
I think they were supposed to be about a hundred thousand years old.
And they brought it to the Congress.
And DNA were all done.
And is non-human.
And one is female and has got three eggs in her.
Eggs?
Eggs.
Now, recent reports say that that one is actually not dead.
Fossilized, but not dead.
So like kind of a, no, what's the stasis?
Something like stasis.
I don't know.
I mean, that's what the latest findings say.
Some people are still trying to debunk it.
Some people are saying that, you know, it's all rubbish and all, blah, blah, blah.
But I'm just merely saying that this is what happened.
I'm not saying whether it's right or whether real or not, you know, fake or true or false.
But it's all there.
It's all there.
So if you look at the Gliese Grey, right?
And you see, look at the similarity with that fossil, the Peruvian alien, right?
They look alike.
Right.
Yeah.
This one is actually, it's all over the news.
The remarkable thing was last year in 2023, it started with the whistle blowing in Congress,
US Congress.
And this guy named David Grush was actually quite a decorated soldier.
He was involved in this particular department of the Pentagon.
And these people were, and this is made known across the board to investigate anomalous phenomena.
And he had to interview hundreds of people in and across the intelligence services as
well as the military.
And until they reached a point where he couldn't take it anymore and he reported it to Congress.
And a lot were discussed in private in what we call a skiff.
The skiff is a soundproof room only available in the Pentagon.
And the Pentagon did not want to give Congress access to those rooms.
They're the only ones to have it.
They were trying to stop them.
Didn't Congress have access to all these?
Precisely.
The Congress people were really very upset with the military establishment simply because
they have got the highest possible security clearance and they were being given a run
around.
But latest reports have it is that they did have the skiff eventually and more were said,
but not released to the public at this time.
And what happened was, well, rewinding back to the whistle blowing.
He is testified that people have been murdered over this UFO story.
Murdered by whom?
He can't say.
It was asked in public during the congressional hearings.
He couldn't say, but he told them in private in the skiff.
And then he also mentioned that these things are true, though it is third party knowledge
because he's third party.
It's through all the witnesses that he had to interview officially being a member or
the person put in charge of this thing.
And he knew that he had to bring it out into the open because he would never come out into
the open if he didn't raise it to Congress.
So him and two other persons, the other two persons were fighter pilots.
One was the squadron leader way back, I think in 2001 or 2003.
These guys also brought out videos with the Pentagon officially released to the whole
world what we call a tic-tac UFOs.
It was on the BBC, it was out in CNN, it's on every major news network.
The Pentagon officially stated now they didn't call them UFOs, they call them UAPs.
Unidentified anomalous or aerial phenomenon.
So these white little things were going against the laws of physics and the fighter jets were
chasing after them.
And it's all caught in video from the cameras on board these planes.
And that was shown all over the world.
So the American military has come out to say, yeah, okay, you know, it's real.
That was 2023.
Okay.
2003 you mean?
No, 2023, last year.
2023, last year.
It came out in the Congress, they released it in 2012.
2023, it was really blown up for the whole world to see because the whistleblowing happened.
Now directly after this whole thing, it's still going on by the way.
I'm going to Google about this after this.
Oh, please do.
I think it makes for interesting reading.
And then of course these three appeared in all kinds of other shows, you know, on Kimmel,
on, not Ellen, there was, I think Ellen maybe, or another show.
And they came out on these shows and they also were interviewed as well.
When that happened, the Mexican Congress called for a hearing.
And that's when that alien, I just, well, alleged alien, the fossilized one, I showed
you.
That one was what the topic was about.
Wow.
And now the Brazilian government is also chasing after their own story.
What story is that?
You mean what did?
There's a particular incident that happened in Brazil.
They call it Brazil's own Roswell story.
Oh, okay.
You know about Roswell.
Roswell, yeah.
In America, in New Mexico, it's famous.
The Brazilian version is called Virginia.
And in Virginia, this little town, there was a UFO that crashed apparently.
And there were two live ones, aliens, ETs, that survived that crash.
And they ran into hiding.
Two police officers caught one.
One that caught him and actually manhandled the being, died eventually.
He died because all of his organs started to fail.
Oh wow.
Just by contact, by manhandling him.
And then all of a sudden, Americans got involved.
They landed in the airfield there.
Just like that?
Yeah.
So full of...
And two guys in black suits came to visit three of the witnesses at their homes.
Wait, two guys in black suits?
Are we talking about men in black now?
Yeah.
So are you talking about the movie or the real thing?
The real thing.
Oh, okay.
Now I don't know whether the real...
People will call me a quack since you asked me like that.
I'm going to tell you.
I mean, you can't help but draw the reference, right?
Because you said two men in black and I'm like, are we talking about a movie now?
No, but if you were to watch...
There's a documentary out by a serious documentary maker who actually did extensive research
on this crash in Virginia.
And there is a documentary out on it.
And it doesn't sound far fetched at all because some of the things that they found at the
wreckage, some of the witnesses though, are almost exactly the same as what some witnesses
at Roswell would say.
The same rotten eggs smell in the atmosphere, in the air, around the environment of where
the crash supposedly was.
This is terrible repugnant odor.
It was like that in Roswell, it was like that in Virginia.
But wouldn't these people in Virginia, maybe they've heard this story in Roswell, how it
was described and they're doing it the same way.
Well, basically you see a whole lot of military guys all of a sudden end up in your little
sleepy village or town.
That means something, right?
There must be something.
I find it...
Okay, if we know where these aliens are, in which constellation and all that, why can't
we just point the satellites and telescopes?
James Webb Telescope right now is doing fantastic stuff.
Good question.
Why don't we just aim at it and say, ah, I see your backyard, like Google map.
That's the alien taking out his rubbish.
Since James Webb, the James Webb Telescope has come up, right?
It is a real engineering marvel.
Oh yeah, it is man.
It's crazy.
It's revealed so many things, right?
One little tiny black spot in space and then you see billions of galaxies.
Yes, yes.
But...
That's amazing.
James Webb has found exoplanets already.
Yes.
There are different constellations.
None that they haven't done it.
They've done it.
Yeah.
This is where I will...
Since you asked about that, constellations, which constellations?
It could be a few.
There are the Arcturians, there's the...
What do you call it?
The Andromedans, which is the closest galaxy to the Milky Way is Andromeda.
Which is going to crash into us in a few billion years.
Yeah.
We are going to collide.
We're just going to merge.
We're going to collide, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
We won't be around, thankfully, to see that happen.
Andromeda milk galaxy.
Yeah, you're right.
Right?
You're right, yeah.
Yeah, it's not Andromeda milk.
They actually had milk in front of us, I think.
I think, is it?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, good point.
Milk-Meda galaxy.
Something like that.
So like this guy here, he's from which galaxy?
Which constellation?
It's a star system.
A star system?
In the Milky Way.
It's called Zeta Reticuli.
Wait, so this guy is from our own galaxy.
Yeah.
He's not even from a different galaxy.
Most of them are from our own galaxy.
Oh, right.
Yeah.
These galaxies are huge, man.
Yeah, but the Andromedans, of course, came from that galaxy.
Right.
Yeah.
But this guy, well, comes from this constellation, or not constellation.
Well, it's a star system.
Yeah.
It's a binary star system.
It's two suns.
Okay.
If you take a look at the...
Can we put up the Betty Hill one, please?
The Betty Hill?
Okay.
The Betty Hill, Barney Hill, was the most famous alien abduction case ever recorded.
Oh yeah?
Black husband, white wife.
Okay.
They were both in the civil rights movement.
That was way back when, you know, during the days of Martin Luther King.
Right.
Well, long story cut short, they discovered that they were abducted because there's a
lot of lost time.
Oh.
That happens to me a lot, by the way, but that's another story.
Carry on.
I've told you that story before, man.
I actually can't think of it.
Okay.
Anyway.
And doing hypnosis, she drew this picture.
Now take a close look at that picture.
Take a close look.
Just try to remember that, you know, just basically how it looks like.
She said that she and her husband were shown this map while in the spacecraft.
Okay.
And that alien being, which she said was a zeti reticulate, told them that this is where
they live.
Okay.
And that there are also these, the lines there, you see those lines are the two round planets?
Yeah.
Those lines, that is a trading route.
What?
They actually have established trading routes.
And with this picture, now that you remember, see this one, let's take a look at the official
drawing of how, look at that.
Oh, this is the official star map of zeti reticuli, the binary star system.
Right.
Wow.
Now, she was just an ordinary person.
She knew nothing about these sort of things.
And what she did was she drew this out on her own.
Under hypnosis?
Yeah.
Wow.
It's impossible for her to know.
So that's why they're the most famous alien abduction in history.
And zeti reticuli have been on a lot of people's lips because it does seem that most of the
occurrences are with alien beings from that star system.
Man.
Remarkable, right?
What's your take, man?
I feel that something is out there.
I mean, to say that we're the only ones who are walking on our legs and all, it's kind
of a bit pompous as an attitude.
We are the only ones, we are the superior.
I doubt it.
I think there are others out there.
And I've also looked at articles and listened to or watched some stories, how they say that
maybe we were the siblings put in here by the aliens to see, let's see how these guys
grow and manage themselves.
We'll watch it from afar.
Once in a while, we'll come and you'll see us watching you, but oh, sorry, we'll go away.
And then we'll see how you're doing.
And some say that civilizations have come across, you know, your UFOs and all that,
they come and see us and they say, oh man, these guys are barbaric.
Let's leave them alone.
They're going to kill themselves off.
You know, it's like you go to a pond full of piranhas and you see they're eating and
biting and killing like crazy.
Do you want to go in that?
No.
You say, you know what, guys, I've had enough.
I'm going to go to the next point.
Actually, you're not wrong there, man.
Right?
Yeah.
You're not wrong there.
So I think that could be one possibility or it could be that the Anunnaki, right?
That they were actually the ones who came and then tried to help us to be better people.
And I think after a while, they just got tired because they realized that we are having our
DNA to just self-destruct, self-destroy, self- I mean, just go to the Johorke horseway and
you see people trying to cut queue already.
So, you know, things like that.
We seem to be programmed somehow.
I don't know how it happened, but somehow we are programmed to just want to do things
the hard way, get into trouble and do stuff that just stir shit up, right?
And then the Anunnaki said, you know what, they are beyond help.
We have to go.
Well, the legend behind or the myth behind the Anunnaki actually is not as simple as
that.
Right.
And I think that according to what people deciphered out of the Sumerian, you know,
cuneiforms, the clay tablets and the stories they tell, is that the Anunnaki actually,
the human race, we were actually slave to these guys.
And then they had a war amongst themselves.
And there's a famous story that came about.
Who had the wars?
The slaves or the Anunnaki?
The Anunnaki.
Yes, yes, you heard about them.
Yes, yes.
And then there's also the two brothers.
Yeah, correct.
And then there was this other, you know, the Mahabharata, which is India, right?
So that other culture had almost a similar kind of story as well.
But when we look back, you know, there's this guy named Graham Hancock.
If you've watched on Netflix, the show called Ancient Aliens, his theory about, oh man,
I know for a fact, a lot of mainstream archaeologists hate this guy's guts.
Oh, I remember him.
Yeah, yeah, he's this little guy with the glasses.
Looks a bit like a John Denver old version.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And his argument is very compelling.
I've heard him.
It is.
Okay, that makes sense.
Yeah, because he is saying that the human race and civilization, as we know it, is not
real, it's not true.
And that it goes way back, more than 12,000 years.
Yeah, they found that site in Turkey, isn't it?
Yeah, that is Gobekli Tepe.
Yes, yes.
Right?
Now that spot alone, if you do any carbon research, they have carbon dating, right?
It goes way back when.
And look at the technology.
Yeah.
Look at the infrastructure.
There was proper organized civilized infrastructure.
Yeah, exactly.
And it goes way before, way beyond, earlier than the pyramids.
Yeah, but 12,000 years back, isn't it?
So how can we explain?
We can't easily explain that away.
Right, of course.
You know, the ruins are there, right?
And who built them?
Can we say that humans did?
Maybe we did, but someone won't.
The Yangnyeom construction prevalent in Korea.
They were there first.
Koreans were there first.
Yeah, but I mean, now the geology world and the historical world is all like, you know,
whack because they think, okay, now we got our deadlines wrong because we thought, you
know, the Sumerians were the oldest people around civilization.
But then suddenly this tepe thing happened.
And then they're like, wait, so it's 12,000 years now.
So everything has to move back a bit now on the ruler of the human-mankind time scale.
Right.
And well, the next episode, I'll be having Ignatius Bong back.
We'll be discussing about ancient aliens.
And pretty sure that we'll also talk about the fact that inside the ancient pyramids,
they say that that's a burial spot for a pharaoh, right?
No pharaohs ever been found.
Right.
So, hello.
So what's it all about, right?
It's like going to say, look, pointing to a bank vault and say, that's where they hid
all the dead bodies and you go there and no, it's just money.
It's just money.
So where's the dead body?
I don't understand.
Yeah.
So that's where the, there's a lot of things that's just really not, it's just-
It's not adding up, isn't it?
It just doesn't add up, man.
Yeah.
You know, it just doesn't add up, you know.
So that's why I brought you in here today because I also want to, you know, it's curious
for me to find out what's Gherman Singh's perspective on extraterrestrial life and on
aliens.
I'm glad to hear that you say that, we can't be so pompous.
No, I mean, ever since I'm a science fiction buff.
Okay.
So any Star Wars, Star Trek, the recent one, Rebel Moon, anything like that, anything new
is Star Wars, anything in dark space, I'm there because I just, you know, I ask this
question, okay, let me ask you this.
If you could, would you like to live forever?
Be an immortal?
You know, a hard question.
I mean, independent, I mean, if I can remain healthy still and still sprightly.
Yeah, still like that, you're okay.
Of course.
Right?
So the funny thing is that nine out of 10 people will say no to me.
I'm of the opinion that I want to live forever because I find that the galaxy, the universe,
has so much space and so much to learn and discover and explore.
I can't do it in a lifetime.
I need to do it in immortality lifetime.
So I want to go out there and look and look around because I feel there's so much to learn,
so much to see.
And that's why I'm so interested in science, James Webb telescope and things like that
are really something that I'm attracted to.
Yeah.
Okay.
But the point is that, well, this is going to get really nuts.
Come on, let's go.
You got me.
We have got this universe we live in.
Yes.
Okay.
And this universe is humongous.
Yes.
It's unfathomable, right?
Right.
But then again, in recent times, most scientists, well, it's been rather acceptable.
It's an acceptable concept or notion in the scientific community that there are multiverses.
Hence, the Avengers and the stories he's watching DC that there are multiple universes, right?
Multiverses.
Yeah.
And it's become a generally well-accepted notion.
So what's the difference between this universe and another universe, for example, and there
are multiple ones apparently, is that it's all different dimensions.
So let's say, for example, we die and not questioning any faith in any beliefs by saying
this, but there is this thing that goes missing in that dead body, isn't it?
When you look at a dead body, you see an empty shell.
What's missing?
The soul.
Well, yeah.
We would call it that.
Okay.
Yeah.
Science would call it consciousness.
Consciousness.
Yeah.
It can transfer to an aerobatic.
It couldn't just disappear, isn't it?
I mean, you've got metaphysics here.
You're looking at something that's more than just a physical, biological aspect of things.
There's something more.
I saw a documentary once many years ago where they studied this phenomena where something
leaves the body, they say, right?
Is it the spirit, the soul, consciousness, what you call it, right?
So what they did was an actual bodies that were dying and they realized when the body
died, it lost a bit of weight.
Okay.
Really?
So something left the body, something that had, and it's not, we're talking about five
kgs or something light.
I forget the exact number now, but it wasn't like the guy lost half the weight, no fats
fell off or whatever, but he's lying on the bed there and he's like on the main machine.
And then when he dies, you see the weights go slightly down.
Something has gone off.
That was interesting to me.
Okay.
But weight could have come down simply because organs have started to die, maybe, you know.
No, they affected all that in.
They still felt that something transient, something intangible that they couldn't put
a finger to was somehow leaving the body.
Right.
They call it the spirit, the soul, what have you.
So you heard of Skinwalker Ranch?
Who?
What?
Because you're talking about this now, so I might as well raise that point.
Skinwalker Ranch is located in Iowa, I think.
It's a ranch really.
It was owned by this family, but now there's a term that's coined in the world of ufology
and the term is called high strangeness.
High strangeness means that a lot of strange things, different strange things seem to happen
in one particular spot.
Now, Skinwalker Ranch is like that.
Why?
Why is it called Skinwalker Ranch?
Because it was built over land that belonged to some Native Americans, right?
And they have that legend about skinwalkers.
So they named it Skinwalker Ranch.
It was bought over eventually by a billionaire.
And this guy owns an aeronautics company.
His name is Robert Bigelow.
So Bigelow Industries bought over Skinwalker Ranch because he was so interested to find
out what's wrong with this spot.
For the last few...
But he knew it was a Native American's barrel site, right?
Yep, he knew.
But it's not just about that because all kinds of funny things were happening.
Besides, you know, we say paranormal.
Paranormal would also include, that term alone, would also include aliens and UFOs, right?
Not just ghosts and stuff.
There are orbs flying around.
Now when we hear orbs, right?
There's only one thing.
It's more than just that.
Orbs people say those are spirits, isn't it?
Like your consciousness comes out and it's just floating around here and there.
But there are also other strange stuff.
When they started...
What happened is Robert Bigelow started doing experiments in the place.
Now it's no longer his.
Now if you watch, there is a series called Skinwalker Ranch.
It's like a documentary.
People are actually there and every single day things are happening.
So they conduct a lot of experiments.
When you, for example, you shoot a rocket up.
Okay.
A small little rocket, you know?
Yeah.
You shoot it up and it's supposed to go out into the stratosphere.
It actually hits something and comes back down.
Oh wow.
So it's like invisible dome thing.
Something like that.
Yeah.
They've tried that multiple times.
It always happens that way.
On top of that, they also receive radio waves.
When they communicate at a particular wavelength at 1.6 gigahertz, which is the signal or the
radio wave from Earth to space.
Okay.
1.6 to maybe 1.8.
Okay.
They always get a reply.
Oh, it's an echo.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
Always that wavelength.
1.6 gigahertz.
I mean, if you look at all these things, right, it just goes to show there's so much that
we don't know about what's around us.
Right?
I mean, I sometimes feel like we, you know how they say that the pigs can never look
up in the sky because they don't have a neck to look up, right?
They only have one.
Do you know that?
Did you know that?
No, I don't.
Pigs have no neck.
But pigs can fly.
Yeah, of course.
Pigs can fly.
What are you talking about?
I saw one today on the PIE.
So because he was driving fast, you pig you.
Okay.
Pigs cannot look up because they have no neck.
They only have this vision.
And also, ants have tunnel vision this way, right?
So I feel sometimes humans are like that.
We only have this vision based on our limited capacity.
No, you're right, man.
Because I've been putting on, I mean, my socials.
I said, look, do you know that this show, well, I've got a few verticals for this show.
And this is one, my favorite one.
It's called Euphoros.
Yeah.
UFO reveal Asia.
Euphoros for short.
Okay.
And we are the only show in Asia, in the English medium, covering the topic of UFOs and aliens.
Right.
No one else does it.
No one else dare, I dare say, touch this subject.
Right.
Which I find it strange that Asians and Singaporeans really don't give a fuck about this.
I do.
I'm not Singaporean.
No, but a lot of people don't, you know.
Because why?
You get out of your homes.
You get out there to go to work.
You come back home.
You don't even look up.
Yeah.
The one time I did and I saw this damn thing in the sky.
Oh.
Right here.
Right.
Okay.
And in the next episode, I will tell you one thing for a fact.
I have since kind of realized that here in Singapore, the sightings here is one particular
spot.
Oh.
Are we talking about Yishun again?
No.
Because Yishun is a...
Yishun is the skinwalker ranch of Singapore.
Yishun, Yishun.
Lots of things are happening at Yishun.
Crime central Singapore.
Funny things happen in Yishun.
Yes.
High strangeness, but not that strange, man.
No.
No, no, no.
But there is a spot that I've realized through the years when I look back, when I read and
read it or I go into P-interest and I've discovered everyone, people who talk about this, you know,
what they do, it's always this one particular area.
No.
Yeah.
And I will talk about that in that episode.
Tune in for the next episode.
Yeah.
I can tell you right now, if you take a look at that spot I'm talking about, I'll say it
today.
Sengkang.
Can we play that one, please?
Oh, really?
On one of my episodes in season two, I had Douglas Anderson with me and he's like a magnet
for UFOs.
Right.
He took this video and of course I took a still of it.
Right.
And you see that picture up there?
It looks like a, it looks like a Zippo lighter, right?
Yeah.
I went, you know, as I do my research, I found similar pictures in other parts of the globe
of that.
Oh.
And this was about Sengkang.
Oh, hello.
But before it became that, it was this.
Right.
It glowed and it moved about erratically.
And then it turned into that.
It turned into that?
Yep.
It morphed into that.
So it's not your electric kite or whatever?
No.
And I've got another video.
I'm not going to show it today in this episode.
I will show the next one.
And I can tell you that one is in the daytime and that was in Haogang.
What?
Yep.
And it was also rectangular.
Oh, hello.
Wow.
Okay.
Yeah.
So it's not that it doesn't happen here, man.
I'm pretty sure it does.
Right?
It's just that when we are here, we're just too busy with work and all.
We don't want to, you know, when you go holidays, you start looking at the trees and the skies
and the flowers because you are on holiday mood, right?
But when you are here, you're just survival mode.
You want to work and get home and sleep and do the same thing again.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
So the thing is, is that it's curious because I'm pretty sure also that our own authorities
and all the other governments in the world know of the existence of these things.
You would think, right?
You know, airspace.
Yeah.
You would think, right?
You should be, right?
Yeah.
I mean, I would think so, you know, and the question remains is that what happens really
one day?
And you know, it's, there's this guy from the CIA and he was interviewed and he said,
why did the Pentagon allow for this to be whistleblown?
And they released a TikTok videos in 2012.
That's because there is a 10 year program to get the world used to the fact that we
are not alone because there's going to be a major, the whole world will be able to see
it contact event.
That's going to happen probably between now and 2027 to 2028.
Oh, in my lifetime.
That's great.
Oh, I'll be there.
Okay.
So I'm going to ask you, man, if let's say, for example, that does happen.
Yeah.
You look out one day and you see above Benjamin's Cheers Bridge, above the Espenade and above
Gardens by the Bay.
And it's not a National Day rehearsal.
And you see a huge craft.
Mothership.
Yeah.
And it's not going to leave.
It's not going to go invisible.
It's just going to be there.
Hovering.
Right.
Hovering, yes.
And then we have a contact event, right?
What do you think is going to happen?
I mean, what do you think the order is going to be like?
I'm hoping that it's going to be a very friendly contact event that they finally say, yes,
we are here.
We've been here.
We've been watching and we see you're screwing things up.
We're going to change stuff.
Or we need to get you away because this is something bad is going to happen to the planet
and we're here to save you.
We'll bring you to another earth somewhere.
What do you think the human race will be?
How do you think we will react?
They will just annihilate the mothership and fight with nuclear warheads, which is why
I'm so scared of the morons that are in control of these nuclear warhead buttons.
You know, I, oh my God, really, I mean, sometimes when you think about, I mean, if you look
at from the small micro level where some people who are leaders of squads or leaders of a community,
leaders of a center, leaders of a company, leaders of a section or village, leaders of
a nation, some of them are really morons.
Why do you say that?
I mean, you look around the world, people are fighting, I think for what they believe,
which is great, but then they don't fight with the people that oppose that believe they
go fight and kill innocent lives.
And for me, history has shown that humankind will most likely shoot first and ask questions
later.
They'd rather shoot the mothership down and then get some dead bodies and then let's study
them now.
Let's see what kind of metals they use for their ship and what kind of skin they have,
what kind of organs they have, as opposed to trying to say, let's meet them and let's
see what we can do to have a very friendly and have a dialogue.
Okay, let's flip that aside then.
What happens if you have a mothership that appears and they happen to be malevolent and
not benevolent here and they're nasty as shit?
Well say goodbye to your loved ones because you're going down.
There's no way you're going to win the war.
I mean, they got the technology to come all the way here.
We can hardly get to the moon.
Hardly get to the moon.
Did we get to the moon?
That's another thing, isn't it?
There's another program coming up.
They're hoping in 2027 that they've sent one unmanned ship around the moon and back
already.
That was a technical rehearsal.
They want to do that now with five pilots who will go around the moon.
So that will be the furthest a man has traveled because he's gone to the dark side of the
moon and back.
They are doing that in 27, 29, I can't remember now.
NASA, you mean or a movie?
NASA, NASA, not a movie.
NASA, NASA.
But no, that's not true.
Because why?
Because the first cosmonaut that left the planet and into space, to get into space was
by the Soviets, Yuri Gagarin.
Then the Americans entered the space race.
Then they had to beat the Russians.
Then the Russians went another step further.
They sent the first female astronaut into space.
Then they did another thing.
They actually sent a probe to the moon.
Oh, they did?
Russians?
They did.
Oh, I didn't know about that.
Then when Neil Armstrong, Belseldrin and Collins went up in Apollo 11, the last one, they sent
in the moon, right?
Collins was the one that was in the command module.
He went around the moon, including the dark side.
He had to.
He had to orbit, come around the moon.
And when he comes back around to where you can see Earth, because you know that we only
see one face of the moon, right?
It's an elliptical orbit, which is the only satellite, a natural satellite in our solar
system that does that.
The other moon is tidal locked.
Not just that.
You have the only perfectly spherical moon in the solar system.
So when Collins made that round, he had to pass behind the dark side.
And when he came back around, he had to pick those two guys up.
They had to come up in the lunar module, launch from the moon, and then reconnect back with
the command module, and then climb back into the command module.
Then they had to release the lunar module.
The slingshot from the gravity, right, between the Earth and the moon.
When he made that round, the slingshot themselves back to Earth.
To come back to Earth.
Oh, I didn't know about that.
So that's already been done.
I thought it was just hovering up there.
And China just landed on the dark side of the moon.
No.
Last year.
What?
Did it bring torchlights?
So wait, so okay, so how come I don't see any pictures of what's happening in the dark
side of the moon?
Yes.
What pictures?
They don't want to share?
I don't know.
Why are they?
You're right, there's nothing.
An suan yi kuan.
The little hawkhead I know.
The Indians landed.
Why is it like this?
You Chinese people.
The Indians landed.
No.
They landed also last year.
Why is everybody landing without telling me?
Without me knowing, rather.
Oh wow.
So wait, they landed on the bright side or the dark side?
The Indians on the bright side, not on the dark side.
The Chinese landed on the dark side.
They did?
They did.
Oh my goodness.
They did.
That was the last year.
China, if you're listening to this, please share some pictures.
Because there's a lot of theory about the dark side of the moon.
That there could be a station there, there could be a life form.
It's not just the dark side, man.
It's not just the dark side.
I mean, based on what other interviews people have done with Armstrong now, Neil Armstrong
kept a lot of the cards close to his chest.
He did say to a friend though, that he cannot talk about it because the lives of his families
and his have been threatened.
He came back a changed man.
He wasn't a guy that left Earth for the moon.
Wasn't there a thing that NASA lost two minutes of communication with the module?
Is that when you went to the dark side?
No.
That was just before they landed.
Before they landed?
And they went from that, the command net that they were on, the signals communications
with Earth, right?
They switched over to the medical net and they were communicating via the medical net.
And some leaked evidences or proofs came out.
Not leaked, that was the Freedom of Information Act.
And they saw the transcripts.
Of course, there were some that were redacted.
And they have a code name for ET or space UFOs.
And that code name is Santa Claus.
And they kept saying that Santa Claus is here.
And on top of that, they also heard a few things.
Sounds, it's spacer, it's spacer.
Sounds outside the ship.
And then of course, they also said when they landed, one of them said, don't know if it
was Buzz Aldrin or it was Armstrong, said they're watching us.
They're just there watching us.
Now, understand this, that after a while, there were a few more missions, right?
There was 12, 12, 13, the fateful one.
The fated one.
And then after that you had, I think one or two more.
Then they stopped.
And for decades we stopped.
We haven't gone back.
What you've heard this year, I think next year, is NASA wants to go back to the moon.
But what we've heard also is that the reason why NASA didn't go back to the moon was because
they've been warned not to.
So why are we going back again?
I have no clue.
Maybe they know whatever was there has gone.
I think it's politics.
I think the fact that China has landed, India has landed, so the Americans have to do something
now, but also Americans have reached Mars before anyone else.
But we also forget this little known story that the Soviets have already sent probes into Venus.
Oh, they have?
Yeah.
They were focused on Venus where Americans were more focused on Mars.
And the other interesting fact is when Apollo 11 lifted off, there was one more final experiment
that they had to do, and they had to drop, I think it was the lunar module or something
else, onto the surface of the moon.
And after doing that, measure the seismometer to discover what's the reaction going to be
like, you know, and whether or not there are earthquakes on the lunar surface.
But no, what happened was when the object hit the surface of the moon, it rang like
a bell.
What?
Yeah, I've heard about the theory that it's a station.
The ringing continued like forever, which tells you it's a huge hollow.
Yeah, I've heard about that, how it's being actually all metal in there, it's a station.
Or whether or not it's artificial.
And then Graham Hancock, that guy for the ancient aliens thing, came up recently with
a theory that is not that the moon is artificial, but the formation of the moon happened maybe
not from planet Earth.
Because you know, the conventional thinking is that when our planet was forming, the moon
pulled itself away from our planet.
But he's saying that the moon came from another planet and got caught somehow by the Earth's
gravity.
So that's another theory that just came about.
And it's crazy because it is weird that we have a moon that is the only dissimilar natural
satellite versus the ones that we know of.
In the solar system.
They also found rocks that were on the moon that are similar to the ones on Earth, which
gives the theory why it came from Earth.
They've also checked that a lot of the minerals they find in the moon is also similar to ours
here on our planet.
But then again, I can't really remember the details, but there are some arguments that
it's also similar to some other celestial bodies in our solar system.
So there's an argument about that.
I mean, back in the day, everything was a hot soup, right?
We would bang each other and all that trying to find their space in space.
No, actually, you know, theory has it that this Earth has had multiple extinction events.
One is famous one is called the Younger Dryas.
And those were times when the ancients wrote that their ancients always spoke about the
time on this planet, the time before the arrival of the moon.
Oh, before the moon.
Exactly.
So there's so many theories hanging about where this story of the moon is concerned.
Can I ask you a question?
I'd like to ask my friend this question.
If you were given the option to pack your family and be one family of 5,000 families
and they fly you to Mars, everything is built, done already.
You just have to go there and habitat, right?
But you can never come back again.
Would you?
No.
Oh, what?
Why?
I wouldn't.
I mean, sure, you don't have to.
I mean, I make it sound like I was so judgmental.
Well, what?
Why?
It's a good question.
There is a particular TV show now.
I don't know if you know.
What?
It's called For Mankind.
No.
This has been, I think, four seasons so far.
And they rewrote history.
You know, they've changed everything.
What if the Soviets were the ones that conquered the moon first, the landed in the moon first,
which was what this story stemmed from there.
And then, long story cut short, they eventually colonized Mars.
Now starting to colonize Mars.
They built themselves this little city called Happy Valley.
Not River Valley.
Singaporeans.
Are you saying that people in River Valley are all bloody Martians over there?
No, no, they're very happy, that's all.
I'm saying that.
Well, anyway, it's fucking crazy.
I mean, but it's a pretty good show.
I kind of follow it.
For Mankind.
I must look it up.
Yeah, pretty good actors in that show as well.
Okay.
So why won't you go to Mars with your family?
I wouldn't because I don't think I can, it would be so easy to adapt, man.
I mean, you get out there outdoors in a space suit.
Right.
You're not going to have that freedom of movement that you enjoy here, right?
Okay, let's say if it's a dome and you move around like how you move around here,
except you know you're on a bloody red planet.
And if the dome breaks.
I suppose that would be a little bit more enticing.
Right.
But come on, I mean, you're still going to be within the confines of that, right?
Right, right.
You know what I mean?
I mean, if I'm going to say, guess what, I'm going to fly off to some other country
for a holiday I've never been there before.
Fuck that, you're going to fly off to where?
You're going to be stuck in the same space.
Wait, is Mars bigger than Earth?
No.
Oh.
It's smaller.
Okay.
I didn't factor that in.
Us and Venus, no, is it Venus?
Venus is the same size.
Venus is about our size, isn't it?
No, it's our size.
It's our sister planet, actually, Venus.
Which is that it's a lot hotter.
Because it's the closest planet to the sun.
For the longest time, I always thought Venus was the coldest and Mars was the hottest.
No, Pluto.
Because Mars is red.
Pluto is no longer a planet, right?
Or did they reclassify it back again as a planet?
Because you see Venus is blue.
It's a dwarf planet.
You think of cool.
That's right.
You see Venus, you think it's a blue, nice blue color.
It must be cool.
But it's a freaking rock.
Yeah, yeah.
I know.
Because it's so far away from the sun.
But anyway, some people have, there was something I saw online.
And there was this picture of, I guess you know NASA give us pictures of Mars.
Yeah.
And the rovers are there, right?
Please tell me those are not fake.
Hang on.
Okay.
Shit.
For some strange reason, the sky is always kind of reddish, orangey, or reddish, right?
Have you seen pictures of those?
Yeah.
Right?
And you think it's a reflection from the Mars surface?
No?
Well, because they call it a red planet.
So, you know, and it's not enough oxygen on.
So what should the sky be then?
Dark blue?
Well, somebody came back and unfiltered, allegedly what they said was filtered by NASA.
And the sky is actually not red.
Then what is it then?
Kind of blue.
Which means that?
Exactly.
No, come on.
I'm not kidding.
And they went in this expert actually.
Biggest marketing campaign ever.
No, but this expert actually got rid of, he said there are filters and it's quite clear
because he's an expert.
He does all these things all the time.
Right.
So he removed them.
I said this is actually how Mars looks like.
Now why are they depicting Mars to be so uninhabitable and paint, you know, and colouring the sky?
Because, and the rocks also look kind of reddish and stuff, and it's actually not reddish.
Wait, so I'm going to be confused here.
Does that mean that these rovers are not on Mars?
They are here somewhere in Death Valley in California?
Don't know, man.
Some rocky mountain.
But you do know that they, I think it is Death Valley that they actually had their simulations
done, right, before flying off to Mars.
Is it where they do it?
I don't know.
I thought it was a swimming pool somewhere.
No, no, no, no, no.
You shouldn't swim in complex.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, I know they do the, they go into underwater in a swimming pool, huge swimming pools.
That's for the astronauts to train for space, yeah.
For gravity, right?
Zero gravity.
But for the rovers and stuff, I think it was Death Valley.
So some conspiracy theorists are saying that we didn't actually land on Mars.
I think we have.
And some people are saying that the other side of the story is that you can actually
live on Mars, but NASA doesn't want you to know that.
Why?
What's the agenda?
Why can't they just say yes?
I don't know, because maybe, who knows?
Could they have discovered the origin of life here on Earth?
That there was a cataclysm on Mars and it ended life there?
Because there is a very, very big scar.
Yeah.
On the planet, right?
And while it's a terrible, massive scar, it's like something huge hit it.
Mount Everest pales in comparison.
The Andes.
Very much, man.
It's like crazy.
And that would have really ejected lots of stuff out of that planet at a time when this
cataclysm happened.
Could it have carried DNA from Mars?
And when Earth was being formed?
Yeah.
And then how DNA ended up here?
It could have.
I don't know.
I mean, that's another theory.
Some say that Mars was what Earth is now, and then it prospered so well, but then something
happened and then we, upon ourselves, dumped on Earth.
On Earth, yeah.
So, that's another theory anyway.
Yeah.
So, that's why I'm saying that there's so many things that maybe some people out there
know, but they're just not saying.
They're not telling us.
You know?
And it's kind of strange, man, when you see pictures of Mars with a pale blue sky.
Blue is kind of like Manchester City blue.
Yeah.
You know?
So, it's kind of weird, man, really.
So, this is a pretty interesting notion.
Anyways, I was telling you just now, you know, what if the aliens, they come and visit us
and they turn out to be...
Oh yeah.
The mothership.
Yeah, they turn out to be malevolent and they're out here to do us harm.
Yeah.
And then, you know, what we would do with them is that we would actually bloody nuke
them, isn't it?
Yeah.
The point is, is that, just to end the show, you know...
We end the show with a bomb?
Yeah.
Because all the time when you find these guys, like Roswell, for example, next door to Roswell,
very nearby is the White Sands Missile Range.
I don't know that one.
Yeah.
Okay.
At the time, there is a major UFO sighting.
It's always close to a nuclear silo.
Okay?
Now, it happened twice.
Once in America, there was an emergency, a real issue, it was a red alert because all
their missiles were switched off.
Okay?
And there was a craft hovering over that silo.
It's that movie scene where the guy can't start the car.
But they were completely nuclear defenceless.
Right, right, right.
Defenceless.
Yeah.
Shut down.
And that was during the Cold War.
Okay.
And then once in the Soviet Union, they started counting down.
The computers, to launch their missiles, started counting down.
30 seconds.
To launch?
To launch.
By themselves?
By themselves.
What the hell?
Okay?
And then it ticked off, ticked down, ticked down, ticked down, ticked down, and then it
stopped.
It was shitting their pants.
Yeah, it stopped.
And there was a craft over the silo.
And when it stopped, right, the craft shot off.
It's like giving us a message that, look, listen, we can stop this.
Right, right.
Yeah.
Okay?
There was another one.
There's a video.
You can find it online.
It's everywhere.
Okay.
There was a missile.
It was a nuclear missile, but there were no nuclear warheads in it.
It was just a test missile.
Okay.
And they launched this missile.
Yeah.
And the thing exploded mid-flight.
And caught on video was this craft that flew on one end of it, shot a beam, flew around
the other end of it, shot a beam, and then flew off, and the thing blew.
Wow.
Yeah.
They're telling us that we don't like this.
Yeah.
And apparently some other conspiracy theorists have got this notion that, you know, or this
theory that the aliens have said to some abductees, stop blowing up nuclear weapons because it
affects the whole cosmos.
It impacts, you know, different dimensions.
Oh.
Apparently.
Even dimensions.
Yeah.
That inside our empty space, there's energy, you know.
Which is what the Hadrian Collider is all about.
Yes.
The CERN, the CERN experiment, and that's for the Higgs boson god particle, right?
Yeah, that's right.
What's anti-matter.
Okay.
So the idea is that in this empty space outside of matter, there's energy, which Nikolai
Tesla attested to.
Yes.
And everybody called him a quack.
Right.
And people are trying to find out in this huge project in Switzerland what's in this
empty space.
Is this empty space truly empty?
Yeah.
But apparently not.
Yeah.
Because the god particle happened for a split second when they collided the atoms at super
high speeds in Switzerland.
Yeah.
Right?
So if the Higgs boson particle could actually come out of this experiment, it goes to show
that this empty space isn't empty.
Yeah.
That maybe with us today, there are actually other beings around us that exist in a parallel
dimension.
Yep.
Or a parallel universe.
Yeah.
So some abductees were told, man, stop the nuclear testings because it affects everyone.
Oh.
Is it getting a bit heavy, man?
No, I like it.
I love it.
Because it makes you think, I think the whole idea behind this also, if you can take, is
that there is more than just you, that it's about you.
Yeah.
It's about others as well.
Yeah.
Not necessarily in this dimension, but other dimensions as well.
Exactly.
So you're going to be the kind neighbor, the considerate neighbor.
You know, don't bang the wall too hard because your neighbor is trying to sleep or do work.
And let's just get along with each other.
Yeah.
So this is where, you know, I mean, I just feel that civilization has taken a turn for
the worse.
Just underplaying it.
I mean, come on, look at our own backyard, man.
Come on.
People are not complaining about, hey, you know, these idiots playing football in the
football court, shut it down.
These idiots now playing football in the damn void decks.
You know, it's about time there should be laws about it.
Yeah.
So how many things do you want to not tolerate?
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
And then the old argument will come back.
Now you live here.
You see where they can take it.
That is still not the point.
The point is that if you're playing, if you're the one playing the shit in the void deck,
right?
Or in the football court, then be considerate.
Somebody walking by, just stop by for a bit.
But if you're walking by as a passerby and these people are playing and you see that
they're mid flight playing the game, just stop for a bit and let them finish the game.
It's just that one atom of common sense that you need.
Precisely.
Yeah, exactly.
But I mean, you look at just what we've been talking about, right?
What you just said.
Fuck man, we, the human race, we are really fuck all.
Really, man.
I mean, we are so fuck all.
End of the day, right?
We just need to be a little bit more tolerant and a little bit more considerate.
Yeah, just a bit, you know.
You're not asking for much.
You're not asking for like, you know, be a holy man or whatever, but just a bit.
That's it.
That's what it takes.
Even if the aliens don't destroy us, I think we're going to just blow ourselves up anyway.
It's true, right?
We don't learn from history.
We never learn.
We never did.
Yeah, we don't learn.
It's one war after another, after another, after another.
Yeah, really.
And it's always about-
And not just the big wars.
It's just the war between two blocks at HDB or two community centers or two villages
or two kampongs or two provinces.
Or two neighbours.
It's just this non-stop war.
And you know, the worst part is under the guise of values and virtue, man.
That's the worst part.
That's the one thing I cannot stand.
You know, don't virtue signal and make yourself look like a damn saint.
When you look at the whole thing altogether, it's just damn plain ugly.
You know, sometimes we just live in the live, right?
And then we talk to each other, you know, and not talk to each other.
Speaking of which, have you heard about the egg theory?
Never.
Never?
Who?
I stumped him.
The egg, like, you know, your omelette egg.
I know, but you look at me like, what's that?
And what's egg theory?
I know it's an egg.
What's egg theory, man?
Okay, okay, okay.
What the fuck?
My bad, my bad.
I was just playing you up.
I was just playing you.
Egg theory, right?
It says that we, there's in this whole planet Earth, that you see everybody, it's just you
actually.
You are the only one.
Every other person that you see is a different variation of you in a different time, space,
economic status, what have you.
They are all you.
Okay.
So that theory really makes you think about how you want to, at the end of it all, how
you want to treat the others, whether it's your beloved neighbor next door or the complete
stranger at a void deck.
If you know that that is you in a different time, different state, different happenings
in a life, you will want to reconsider how you treat that person because you're treating
yourself.
Right.
And I think that's a wonderful theory.
Okay.
Wow, damn cheap.
I know, right?
I don't know if you call it egg though, because you're the only one.
Damn cheap, man.
One egg theory.
Okay.
No, no, I understand the concept, but damn cheap.
I don't know, go and watch some more videos.
I'm just paraphrasing it, but yeah, there are videos out there and when I saw it, I
was like, what?
Okay.
Like who moved my cheese?
Yeah.
This is a metaphor, I tell you.
Yeah, but yeah, I understand what you mean.
I mean, we all live in our own state and we all live in our own little bubble.
And how we want to expand and extend the bubble is entirely up to us.
And the perspectives that we want to look from.
Yeah.
It doesn't even bother in your mind how huge the universe is.
I mean, we say it's 13.8 billion years old, but it's only the seeable.
But we could see.
That we can see.
As far as we can, right?
Yeah, with the instruments that we have.
But do you know that there's somehow a wall?
I don't know.
In recent times, some people, some scientists have said that there is a wall.
That one's behind the wall.
Don't know.
That's the thing.
So there is that, you see.
So this is where we're going to end the show.
I'm going to show you this.
What?
We cannot be alone, man.
There's no fucking way.
Because when you look at this, can we play that please?
And that's Earth.
That's Earth?
Been there.
Still here.
Pulling out the Earth, right?
And then you see our sun there.
Right.
Oh, that's the sun.
And then, no, no, that's not the sun.
That's the sun.
And then you have the rest of the planets in our solar system.
Yeah.
And we're pulling out of our solar system.
And you just watch where our sun is now.
Yeah.
That little speck down there.
Yeah.
And you can't freaking see it anymore, man.
And then you see we're moving away, moving away further and further and further.
And we're moving away from that black hole in the center of our galaxy, the Milky Way.
And then from the Milky Way, it takes billions of light years away.
Exactly.
And then billions and billions of solar systems in that Milky Way.
Now you see the Milky Way is now a speck, a speck amongst three to five trillion galaxies.
Yes.
Galaxies.
Now those are now galaxies.
Yeah.
But there's specks now because we're so far away.
Exactly.
Now take a look at that shit, man.
And then there's the rest of the universe, right?
Now in the end, right at the end, with all these trillions of galaxies, it goes into
the black space.
Starbucks.
Yeah.
Right?
And that dark, and then, you know, today I was just reading for your ride.
There is this dark void.
This is the James Webb telescope.
I love that, man.
I love it.
A dark void, complete darkness.
What?
Nothing.
Even James Webb telescope can't...
They found it.
They found darkness.
I mean in the past, in the past with the, what was the telescope before the James...
Hubble.
Hubble, yes.
I mean, when they found dark space, they thought it was just nothing.
Then James Webb came along and said, wait, hang on.
There are trillions of stars in there.
Exactly.
So now I'm wondering if James Webb has reached its capacity, you know, that dark space that
it sees now, actually they are full of stars, but it just can't pick it up because it's
too damn far.
Well, basically astronomers are saying that the other...
They are not wrong.
The possibility would be is that we have just found or looking at just after the Big Bang,
you know, or just before, no, just after the Big Bang.
It's just darkness there.
Everything is just blown out.
And then that spot, that void is dark.
Because apparently the Big Bang came from a one single singularity.
Yes, that's right.
And then boom, it blew, right?
And everything.
It was a perfect, in perfect equilibrium.
That singularity.
Then when it blew, all of this came out.
The universe was created, right?
And the universe is expanding exponentially.
Yeah, basically.
But then this was expanding.
Some other astronomers are saying, scientists are saying that there is an end to it.
There is a wall.
That's so hard.
I can't get my head.
I can't get my head around that too.
You know, when I was in primary six, I used to think about this.
Okay, the universe goes on and on and on.
There's a wall.
Okay, then on that wall is this benevolent being holding on to that globe of the universe.
And I don't know why I thought it was a ram, like a, you know, a Pegasus or whatever.
And then, but where is that animal then?
Right?
I zoom out and he's in another universe that is held by another bigger Pegasus and goes
on and on.
And you know what I will get in the end, after thinking of that for five, ten minutes, I'll
get a migraine.
Really, truly.
I would then I stop, I tried a few times and I said, I cannot think about this anymore
because it is just mind boggling.
Yeah, because I was saying, if one day the contact happens, it is going to disrupt economies,
it's going to disrupt religion.
It is going to really put a lot of things to the question.
That economy is one thing, the politics will be screwed, okay?
Because we're going to have free energy.
You know, there's no need for us to pay anymore because we know how to harness energy from
empty space.
Yeah.
Which is what Tesla was trying to do.
Exactly.
Right.
And he got screwed by Merrill Lynch.
Yes.
And Merrill Lynch decided to invest into that.
And by the way, that guy is also not a very good man, Thomas Edison.
Yeah.
Because.
He sold a lot of people's paintings.
Yes, yes.
I heard about that.
And it's all for money.
And then Merrill Lynch decided to invest in thinking that he's going to be on the right
side of history and Tesla died in poverty.
And then the FBI, when he died, he died alone in a single room and they came in and they
took away all of his work.
Oh, come on.
And it's been lost.
The only thing we've got right now is ACDC, Ah Chung Disco Club.
Yeah.
So, you know, so yeah.
Tesla is my man.
So that's why I'm saying that there's so many things that will be disrupted.
It should really, that would happen, right?
When these guys actually do appear and we have contact.
So I gather then that you're looking forward to this contact.
I am.
Right?
I am.
Because.
It will put a stop to a lot of speculation and what have you, right?
That's one.
Right?
Secondly, also, it shows that we are part of a much, much bigger, a much bigger, much
bigger part of this, you know, we have a role to play.
Yeah.
It's far bigger than, we've been stupid all this while.
You know, that we've been really dumb, you know, that we're not supposed to be killing
each other.
We're not supposed to be.
We've been Pennywise Pound Foolish.
Very much so.
I think so.
There's a much bigger space out there rather than just our own little space here.
You know that one time I felt like this, where there's much bigger picture.
It was when I went to California holiday and I went to stay on the Grand Canyon.
Oh, my jaw dropped.
Really?
I've never been there.
No, that was my first time.
1992.
No, I've never been there.
Oh, dude.
Come on.
Let's go.
Next week, I'll bring you.
1992, I stood there and I'm still at the edge of civilization looking into the never-ending
Grand Canyon.
It just played something in my mind like, dude, you are nothing.
You're a speck of dust compared to this entire canyon, AKA the universe and what have you
out there.
I just jaw dropped for a while and just…
Yeah, and we don't respect that, do we?
No.
I mean, we shot a video.
I mean, pull out the Earth.
Earth, pull out the solar system.
Solar system, pull out the…
And we're nothing.
Yeah.
Us as individuals, we're just at one little time.
Not even a speck, man.
We're at the atom level now.
Yeah, exactly.
Atomic level.
But we don't respect the bigness of everything out there, man.
I mean, it's like me.
Yeah, right.
The Grand Canyon, the first time I've ever seen snow was just three, four years ago.
And I was in Norway and I was up this mountain.
And this mountain is located in the old capital of Norway called Bergen.
And I was standing right there and down where all the snow is and looking up the peaks and
stuff and I'm going like, my God.
Yeah, right.
How little tiny do you feel?
Smaller than a snowflake.
I mean, what am I?
You know?
What am I?
And it's the appreciation of that.
But no, what do people do?
They go out there, oh, so nice.
Take picture.
They don't fuck me.
I mean, take picture, take selfie.
You know what I mean?
Anyway, this is boring.
I'm going to go find some shopping.
Have you seen the video where they show you the size relevance from something with Earth
that's only bigger than the sun?
And then it goes to a bigger star and a bigger star.
And beetle juice, man.
Beetle juice.
And then the sun, our sun becomes like a little dot.
Yeah, yeah.
And beetle juice, by the way, has lost its glow.
It's losing its glow.
No, no.
It's cooling down.
Touch up, make up.
You mean the movie Beetlejuice?
That guy.
But there's even something bigger than beetle juice.
If you go on that scale that you're looking at, right?
Yes, there's one that...
Far, far bigger, man.
I mean, it's ridiculous, man.
How big can things get?
Ridiculous.
It's so ridiculous.
It's a good thing we have a lot of space.
Exactly.
You've got so much space, right?
And still not even seen it.
So what are we, man?
I mean, you know, I just think that we should really rethink our position, rethink where
we are.
I'm very interested in dark energy and black matter.
They say you look at the universe, 80% of it is just dark matter.
The black out there outside of the stars.
Yeah.
And they can't account for it.
The quantum physics can't account for it because they say that we've done our math and how
come the numbers don't match?
So there's something else out there.
Same thing.
That's the same.
Dark matter.
God particles, which is the same thing as this.
You know the empty space?
And that's empty space.
That darkness is empty space.
Why is it black?
Right?
That's the question.
Why is it black?
Why can't it just be something else?
You know, but why is it black?
I guess because our eyes have limited spectrum on the light spectrum.
So we only see it as black for all you know, it could be a rainbow color, but our eyes
can't see it.
I mean, right?
Okay.
Which animal is colorblind?
There's an animal that's colorblind.
Is it the bull?
No.
Dogs are colorblind.
No, dogs can see two or three colors.
Dogs can see red, I think.
Dogs can see red.
Who sees in black and white?
Kai, do you know?
I read somewhere, but I was like, what?
But most animals are.
Most animals are kind of like black and white.
I think in the bigger scale of things, we are like those animals.
We only see two colors or one color.
And then, you know, everything else is there, but we just don't see it.
Interesting point.
Right?
Interesting point.
Actually, maybe there's things that we just can't see, but some other species can see.
Yeah.
Like predator.
Then go to a different spectrum.
You know, infrared.
It's can.
The filter comes on in front of his face.
They can see so many things around him, which we can't see.
Yeah, well, then after you know that one first movie.
Yeah.
That was great.
Yeah.
The rest.
Come on.
Please.
I got a little.
I was under-sortionated.
I'll take out the gun and shoot everybody else in there.
Why?
I don't understand how bad it can get.
Yeah.
But I enjoyed the latest one though.
The last one that was on, it wasn't in the movies, but it was a TV movie.
And this was, they shot it way back when, when during the native American days, you
know, the, the, the, the front, the new frontier days and that was predator.
Yeah.
Oh my.
What's it called?
No, no, no, it wasn't.
It was when you find out text me.
Yeah.
It's another name.
Um, and, and, uh, it was this little native American girl, uh, who wanted to be a warrior
and she was the one that fought.
Oh, wow.
Now that was, that wasn't bad at all.
That was really quite something.
But the rest, oh man, it's like the ghostbusters.
Oh, I know.
Oh, what a pity.
Yeah.
It was like, I was so excited.
Oh, yeah.
You know, let's bring it back.
Some remakes just shouldn't be, shouldn't happen.
You know, some remakes like the A team.
Remember a couple of years back.
Oh, man.
What a, what a flop.
But there's, that's the thing you'll see any, we're going to a different subject now.
Every time you do a sequel of an iconic movie, you have to be so careful.
You have to be so good.
Yeah.
Otherwise you'll never do well.
But you know what didn't fail?
Of all these franchises and stuff and then you do, it's been continuing, continuing well.
And even, uh, uh, if you have those, what we call prequels, right?
Star Trek.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
I'll give you that.
They do a better job than Star Wars.
Yeah.
But then you have the DC versus Marvel thing.
Well, even then, I mean, speaking of DC, did you watch the Zack Snyder's four hour Justice
League?
Oh my God.
That was something.
Zack Snyder is the man.
And he did the blue moon.
Rebel moon.
Yes.
Zack Snyder.
I would, I would admit.
Yeah.
Right.
When you watch that movie, it really made sense.
But now you look at Marvel, man.
I mean, I don't get me wrong, man.
I'm a, I'm a Marvel fan.
But now with the, with the Avengers, the old Avengers done with infinity wars is done,
right?
Game is done.
Then now you've got, you've got the new Avengers coming around and I'm going like, my goodness,
man.
I'll watch the Marvels and I want to vomit blood.
I heard it's not good, huh?
I wanted to vomit blood.
I, you know, sometimes I watch the trailers and I go like, oh, this is interesting.
And even if people tell me it's a lousy movie, don't watch it, but the trailer's interesting
for me, I'll still watch it.
But this one, I watched the trailers and I go like, is this a kid's show?
Because I'm not sure what's going on.
You know why I like Star Trek?
Why?
I'm more of a Star Trek fan.
Right.
Although I got Star Wars in my head.
But I really, I'm a checky because end of the day, a lot of the other things are achievable.
Look at how the original Star Trek, Captain Kirk with William Shatner, right?
And then at Nimoy's Mr. Spock.
They've had the communicators and then they've got the pad, right?
Even new generations used a pad.
Now we've got the iPad.
No, you've got the iPad.
And you know, funny enough, theory has it that the American military actually approached
Hollywood and Hollywood actually, Hollywood has got a role to play in how they get us
used.
Prepare us for the easy, the technology into our life.
Close encounters of the third kind, Steven Spielberg.
Yes, the keyboard.
Yeah, but you know, a lot of that movie, right, is based, is really based, well, they had
consultants, people like Dr. Hynek and all that, people who were involved in Project
Blue Book and as consultants.
And there's a lot more realism.
Than fantasy, right?
Yeah, than fantasy.
And then they've approached people like, you know, for Star Trek.
They decided that they want to find which model they want to work on.
Star Wars, Star Trek, the American military.
And they decided Star Trek.
Okay.
And then the rest of the military industrial complex started to work on the theories based
on Star Trek.
Now if you hear NASA speak about the future of space travel, they use terms like plasma,
plasma drive.
Yeah.
Where did that come from?
Star Trek.
Yeah.
You know, any lingo they use like, will we ever go to warp, stuff like that.
They have these chats about these sort of things and what the future would be like.
They use terms that belong to Star Trek.
Star Trek.
Yeah.
So, I mean, it can't be a freaking coincidence, isn't it?
Yeah.
So these people have decided that it's going to be based on this futurism technology based
on this particular format.
That's what we can swallow.
Yeah.
They can give us bits and pieces of information so that when we actually put it out there
for consumption, commercially, publicly, we are kind of ready because it's already sort
of brainwashed into thinking, yeah, yeah, yeah, I was expecting this next.
Yeah.
But you know, if they were, could it be possible that they've already done it?
Well, I think yeah.
And why aren't they telling us about it?
Because it will kill the fossil fuels industry.
It will kill all the gas.
That's another episode all in all.
Exactly.
So, you know, so, so yeah, yeah, right.
It's going to be another episode all in all.
So that's why I'm saying at the end of it all, right, there's a lot of things that are
happening that we don't know about.
Sure.
Yeah.
There's a lot of this whole thing, this whole weave, they weave this entire, what's the
word for it?
They hide it from us under this network that they've created with Hollywood, with people
in the military industrial complex, with everyone.
And they just come together and this is how we're going to blind the rest of the world.
Yeah.
They send us a narrative.
Yeah.
They want us to see.
Correct.
Yeah.
And now they decided to disclose.
Yep.
That's just how it is, man.
Oh, we're going to be talking for so long.
We could go on forever.
But, Germit, thank you so very much, man.
Four hours later.
Thank you so very much, man.
No, pleasure.
I'm glad you're a believer.
I'll bring you back anytime.
I love talking about these things.
Yeah, yeah, really.
I mean, I'm glad you're a believer and it's been really nice talking to you about this.
People find it strange.
These guys just go on and on talking about this shit.
But I'm glad to have you with me.
I'm glad really that you believe that these things do exist.
I'm not saying that they do.
Yeah, I'm just having an open mind.
Yeah, yeah.
There are so many things that cannot be explained.
There must be something else.
We just need to really delve a little deeper and see, you know, what do you think?
Could these things be real?
And I really want to bring this out into the open because simply because, you know, especially
with you, you're here, people do watch you a lot, that's for sure.
You are, after all, Germit Seng, man.
People are going to be like, I thought he's just a comedian.
He knows words like plasma, andromeda, galaxy.
What?
Where has he been studying?
No, but I'm really glad.
I'm really, really glad that we can talk about this, man.
And it's a different thing that people don't see.
People don't hear from Germit about these kinds of things.
And really thank you for being here.
And I wish you the best for the rest of 2024.
Same to you, man.
Okay, everyone, we really got to call it a day.
Otherwise, we just cannot stop.
But I have one more question.
No, I'm just kidding.
I'm just kidding.
Really got to go.
This has been Germit Seng together with Chris Hansen for the Chris Hansen Conversations,
this episode one.
And it happened to be Euphorous.
And yeah, I know it can get kind of long, us talking about this.
But we are also found on Spotify, if you want to listen, instead of just watch.
Spotify, Google Podcasts, Apple Podcasts, Amazon Music, Deezer, ListenNotes.
And also the Dark Side of the Moon, we are found there as well.
Exactly, yeah.
So even if you're on the Dark Side of the Moon, you can still listen to us on the audio
podcast as well as on YouTube for this video podcast.
So it catches there as well.
And thank you so much again, and welcome back to the show.
I'll see you again real soon.
And remember, look the fuck up.
Bye bye.
Mmm.