I tell you what caught me there man, zeta reticuli. Yes. What's your take on zeta reticuli?
Zeta reticuli right, it's uh... 38,000 light years away I think. There's a lot of things about that
system. There's a lot you know. Exactly. Yeah so uh it's uh I don't know where to begin.
Hi everyone. I'm excited to come back to this topic again because back in season one I had a
two-parted with this guy. Remember him, Ignatius Bong? And we were talking about everything
extraterrestrial and then I realized hey a lot of you guys actually like that topic. And so
the Chris Hansen conversation have decided to start a series, a few series of different topics.
And this one is now going to be called UFO Reveal Asia or Euphora for short. And the reason why we
want to do this is because we want to bring more awareness about the UFO UAP phenomena to Asia
in English medium because none of you guys are really doing it. And so we want to be the ones
to bring this across to Asia. And so today for the first of our Euphora series I have back with me
and I said this in the last episode concerning this topic with Douglas Anderson. And this
gentleman couldn't be here with me then because he was taken ill but he's here and back in studio
at CCB TV for this particular episode and we have conferred him and I'm going to say this officially
right now since he's with me we have conferred Ignatius Bong as CCB TV's official ufologist and
welcome back Bong. Oh thank you so much for the honor. I'm deeply touched especially over there
when I get anal probed. Well I have not prepared a plaque for you yet to put it up though. You
should have one. I'm trying to design something in 3D print you know that looks like an anal probe.
Yeah you know probe. Yeah yeah yeah. I'm holding my hand. Yeah man. Okay but hello everyone.
Welcome back to this very important topic. Since we started mentioning about certain of these
flying objects I think it caught some public awareness and especially attention because it
is something that as we mentioned in our previous series something that is not really delivered
much on social media or on any podcast especially in this Asia-Pacific region. So we hope to trail
blaze and be the only one, the original one to be able to do this. Oh yeah well I hope that continues
but you know how people can be bloody copycats. Yes of course. Yeah okay anyway we're going to
talk about today Bong. What is it we're going to be talking about today? You got some things lined up for us.
Okay so the last season which you should follow but if you have not please look through that.
But for this time round we are just going to go into a very important topics that has happened
recently. As the time of this recording it is now 2023 okay so actually it's in August 2023.
But something happened in the United States on July the 26th. So we're going to talk about this topic
and then we're going to bring you through and link it to the other important topics. So what are these topics?
Okay first and foremost we are going to talk about the United States House Committee on Oversight and Accountability.
I don't know it's a very long word. Okay that means it's the US government. They made a hearing on a whistleblower.
His name is David Grush. So he made some outstanding allegations and outstanding stories
and he brought it up to Congress and there was a hearing a two-hour plus hearing. And we feel that
in Asia we should actually make this better known to those who are actually watching it and who are
unaware that this happened. Right and then once that is done based on this topic of his whistleblowing
content we're going into the Roswell incident okay and then we're going to Majestic 12, a set of
documents and a set of people who are running an investigation. And then lastly we will flow into
a disclosure discussion. Okay yeah okay wow that's going to be heavy. Anyway you do know Bong,
this is the moment that we really have to dig deep and dive into that rabbit into the rabbit holes
for each of this topic. We can't really just be skimming it. Okay so which one you want to start
off with? You want to start off with the US Congressional hearing? Okay yeah but before I
begin I would also like to mention that Chris Hansen is also very well versed in this topic.
Yeah he's very well versed. I think he's more well versed than me so he should be the ufologist,
the chief ufologist. You need a bigger anal probe. His content is very strong so he has a lot to
share as well as we go along. So you will actually hear more of the stories behind the
accusations or whatever. I will just generally give the factual what has happened. So I'll start
with the US House Committee on Oversight and Accountability. Right so basically what happened
was in 2017, correct me if I'm wrong if the date is wrong, the New York Times. Oh yeah.
They had the New York Times, it's something like a very serious newspaper. They will not put up
anything that is non-factual or hearsay. So they made an announcement that the United States.
Respectable paper. Yeah respectable paper. The United States government actually has a black
budget program to investigate United, I mean UAPs. So UAPs in case you're wondering what are UAPs
and what are UFOs, they are basically the same thing. I prefer to use the word UFO because I'm
an old man but for the younger generation say UAP because it is a very political statement that they
want to make. And it has changed the definition of what UAP means quite a few times because
they're not very sure. So it's basically something to unidentify aerial phenomena.
It could also be unidentified anomalous phenomena. So they can play with the A in UAP.
Yes correct. So the idea is basically could it be weather based, could it be something to do with
geographical geology or something, not geology I mean the atmospheric pressures that you see
or really something unidentified. Very clever of them, you know, salesmen. So David Grush was one
whistleblower who came up and sorry coming back to the story first. So when the New York Times
released that information, there was also a release of three videos. So these three videos became
famous around the world because they were released by the Pentagon and they were stated to be true.
So that took everybody by surprise. Firstly, we thought that the US government didn't actually
acknowledge about this kind of things. Secondly, they actually took video footage. The video
footage is very important because they had technology inside that video. That means they
were shot by the planes, by radar and other sources like satellite. I don't know where the satellite is.
I think it was in cockpit video recording. In cockpit video. Yeah. I've got one video that Kai,
I hope you got it ready, the tic tac video. This one is the one that happened in the one with
Fravor. You know one of the three whistleblowers in case you guys don't know is a guy besides David
Grush. There's this guy named Fravor. He was a commander for the squadron on board a carrier. It wasn't a Nimitz group.
This is the one outside of the Nimitz group. So Fravor chased after this object.
Kai, do you have it? There you go. Fighter pilots from the USS Nimitz flying super hornets
encountered an aerial object that was described as 40 feet long and shaped like a tic tac.
The object flying a random pattern appearing at 80,000 feet and then dove to 20,000 feet
at incredible speed. The radar controller at the nearby USS Princeton was able to
follow the alien aircraft for a few minutes before disappearing.
Yeah okay I take it back. It was not Fravor's. Fravor was in San Diego if I'm not mistaken.
This is from Nimitz. Yeah this is from the one at Nimitz. Yeah. Yeah so following up on what
Chris has mentioned, his name was David Fravor. He's a retired US Navy commander. So they were on
exercise off the coast of America where these ships started coming. These tic tac ships started
flying in and he was asked to investigate. He and a co-fighter pilot. So they spotted a white object
that was around 204 okay and then these objects were hovering above their jets. So upon closer
inspection, he said there were no visible rotors, wings or exhausts coming up. He was ascending and
approaching his fighter jet. Now the thing is that why this is so important because the testimony
came from a pilot. So a fighter pilot is very observant, is very sharp especially in defense
circles and trained. Yeah he's trained to spot things that are not a thing. So he says that
this UFO vanished and appeared a few seconds later but this time it was spotted 60 feet
miles away. So within a matter of seconds it flew off 60 miles away. So he said that the technology
they faced was very superior than anything that they had. So they actually went to chase this
tic tac but they couldn't actually catch up with it and it just went off. So again it was
not it was just reported internally but it was not brought up to the public. Yeah but what's
important is that the Pentagon decided to for some whatever strange reason you think to release this
publicly for not just to the Americans but the rest of us, the whole world. I mean right now
they've admitted that we don't know what these things are though they said that but they're not
denying anything and they release these videos. So I think that's that alone in itself is pretty
remarkable. Yeah correct. There are certain theories why they are doing that. They are basically
releasing information to the public on these topics in drips and draps in very small pieces
for people to absorb. The reason being very obvious is that if I were to tell you something
that will rock your social circle, your life, it will create quite a bit of panic. For example,
I'll give you a case which we just experienced which was Covid. When we first had Covid it was
very frightening because we didn't know what it was. It actually caused a lot of panic. One of them
like in Singapore, very famous, they go and buy toilet papers. Not just Singapore man, this is
fucking buying toilet papers is a worldwide phenomenon man. I mean it's a joke you know but
you can see people rushing to the supermarkets to buy food and to stock up. It's become a study in
sociology right now I can tell you that much. Yeah correct and it's just one bacteria or okay one kind of
what they call it virus. Imagine if I were to tell you there's somebody aliens coming in they're
going to kill you and blah blah blah. You can't imagine the mass panic. Yeah I know. I think the
worry that these people have is because there's going to be a lot of crises. There's going to be
an economic crisis because the fossil fuel industry is going to be in trouble. Why? I mean as we get
along, as we go along with your topic, there's going to be more and more information about that.
The reason why there could be just you know an economic crisis and panic and besides that there
will also be a challenge and crises for theology. Yes correct. You know across all kinds all faiths
in the world you know there'll be a lot of questions that the world population will be asking
you know and I don't know whether I think that over the years and you know all these decades like
70 plus 80 years of cover-ups and deception could just as likely be because they feel that people
are not ready. Yeah correct. Right and they cannot afford to have economies you know really hitting
rock bottom because the fossil fuel industry is just going to be impacted. Yes correct. That's
right. Yeah why fossil fuel? Because there's basically talk that an alternative energy will
be provided so that means they don't use fossil fuel anymore and it's free. It's free. Yeah so
that have a big impact and as Chris mentioned yes theology that means religion-wise. All the major
religions in the world will have to sort of scramble because they have not functioned in this
particular you know external intrusion into their belief system. Yeah and I think when we look at
we look at free energies is this is exotic technology. If let's say one day really the
aliens do come right in full view of everyone yeah. Yeah. I mean they're just going to come down
right over your capital cities and get so low and hover there. Yeah. And they're not going to and
nobody can say that oh no no that's rubbish you know you can't deny that anymore. Let's say that
day happens this complete first contact where as far as the world is concerned that's first contact.
Yes. Where the first contact has occurred 60 70 years ago we wouldn't know right. Yes correct. But
let's say on the hypothesis it's fun to just think about this these guys come and then if they're not
malevolent if they're benevolent hopefully yeah they share technology with us they're going to
give us free energy man. Yeah. I mean look right now we know we heard about this thing called element
115. Yeah correct. Okay I'm not going to go into that right now because we're going to I'm going to
leave it to you to lead the way okay. Okay. Saying too much talking too much. Yeah yeah correct. Yeah
so um but that's a very quite a good background for us to uh because that's where we're coming
on for today's topic about also disclosure if you are to disclose what's going to happen.
But we come back to this talk the first one which is the house committee on oversight. Right. So
basically what happened was three retired military veterans testified at a house hearing
on this UFO projects uh UFO sightings warning that the sightings are a national security problem
and the government had been too secretive about them. So the hearing is the latest push by lawmakers
or so in the in the US intelligence officials and some military personnel uh to sort of look into this
uh platform into this problem on a national platform which is the US platform. So a bipartisan
group that means for those who do not know about politics in US they're basically Republicans and
Democrats. So it is a very rare opportunity where both groups get together to sort of agree and
investigate a topic. Yeah it's rare man to have these two parties coming together and working
together on the topic. These guys are doing it. Yeah yeah right so it all started with David Grush
who is a former Air Force major so he was asked to lead a government task force on UAPC. He's a
decorated soldier. Decorative soldier as well in 2019. So um he and uh US Navy pilots have actually
reported about 650 instances of flying objects moving in all manners in the United States air
space that defy conventional aeronautics physics. So he claims under oath because he has to go under
oath to swear in front of the Senate and they're doing the investigation to give his testimony
that United States military has decades been in possession of the remains of crashed UAPs or UFOs
and has long been working trying hard to reverse engineer them. With this intelligent technology
we bring it back to our base and with third party companies and what second party whatever and then
try to reverse engineer. So he made it clear that he did not actually see any of this but he heard
from a lot of witnesses. Basically he took down testimonies of witnesses. Testimony,
testimonies of witnesses and that was his basis of coming out but he did give them he could he
will provide Congress with more information in what you call that uh that special room.
Skiff. A skiff. It's called a skiff. A skiff is a kind of room it's like a glass uh from my
understanding you walk inside it's like a glass room and around it there are speakers blasting
uh not music but humming sound. So there's no one can hack into it. No one can hack it and you can't
actually uh put the microphone can't pick it up. But Bong the fucking problem is is that when
Congress themselves have said it you know on camera right that the only areas and places where
they can get a skiff which is a soundproof room devoid of any anyone being able to pry
into that because that's meant to take private secret conversations and testimonies are actually
offered by the Pentagon and the Pentagon's been giving them the runaround and giving them a fucking
skiff. Can you imagine? They're giving Congress the runaround. Yeah correct yeah so uh one of the
uh persons heading it from Congress is a Republican Senator. His name is Tim
Bruchette who is so angry with them because uh they've given them a runaround because before this
committee was done this hearing which was done live on national tv as well uh they gave him a
runaround yeah over there so he was very pissed and he was saying we are the government we tell
you what to do not you. Yeah not just that they were also saying that their security clearance is
pretty high you know they were even stopped at an airbase by the commander of the airbase who refused
them entry. Yes correct. I mean it's remarkable man I mean these people are Congress. Yes correct
yeah so the historical part about this thing is that now this uh like we mentioned this in season
one people who talk about you guys are crazy now they say no you're not crazy actually we are
encouraged to come and tell us so the narrative has changed all right and this has brought out
a lot of questions like what how we started today's uh session which is why are they doing this
I from my personal point of view uh the senators and this congress they have seen a lot that was
not disclosed to the public right they actually seen a lot and they are now devising a strategy
to bring this information out to the public very slowly right like uh by first making sure that
this is a serious topic and we are listening to you right through a whistleblower program and then
from there I slowly drips and draps release information about this uh aliens. So like weaning
the people into this topic. Yeah weaning the whole population of earth into this topic right because
there are talks uh actually a lot of uh hearsay and there's a lot of chatter quite quite strong
chatter in the year 2027 there will be a major contact event. Holy shit balls this is where I think
this is the part where we have to play this video man. Yeah um um Kai you know which one right? You
have this video yeah Ramirez that's it. Ramirez. We're kind of preparing the the US population at
least and uh by extension the world population and to that reality that there is something there is
a presence here and that we need to explain this presence because if they show up and we continue
to do what we did before previous decades and this show up there will be mass panic but if you
understand that though these are real and we have five years from 2022 or maybe now four years
uh if they come in 2027 uh for for the US government to prepare the people about what
is up there and in many ways I think uh the word got out uh within the government that they're
showing up in 2027. They are. We better be prepared and and if not there's going to be a lot of
explaining to do um and so I think that dialogue has happened within uh inside the government in
certain areas inside the government that we need to prepare and that's why in 2017 uh that set a
clock of 10 years and why Lou Elizondo uh earlier in this year said you know just find a hobby for
five years and uh you know it'll go up you out in five years and he said that this year so that was
2027 and I would say I've heard 2027 in a kind of an official capacity that I can't reveal so I think
um I would say that people in the government are aware of something happening and that there's
limited time uh a few more years to prepare the people and that's what's ramping up uh this
acceleration uh from the previous seven decades of not even acknowledging it to now we we are
acknowledging it at a faster and faster pace. Can you imagine man I mean okay first of all credit to
Ella Labane thank you very much for sharing that on your Facebook excuse me man I you know the
reason why I got a big glass of water because this whole damn thing is so heavy man um I mean
look at what this guy said Ramirez and Ramirez is quite popular you know I mean uh we all know he's
ex-CIA those people who are in the ufology circle and for him to say that he cannot reveal an official
source yeah that told him 2027 some big shits it's going to happen going to happen yes that
thing about what I said earlier about having uh ufos coming down and hovering like you know over
our capital cities and you they're not moving yeah I hate good grief dude yeah that's the thing
is it because uh as I mentioned that's a very good uh clip that you have there yeah um I also notice
is a ex-CIA yeah so in order for them the ex-CIA or any government officials in the world if you
want to say something like that you got to get clearance yeah you cannot just say I want to say
blah blah like grush grush had to get clearance as well yeah they give that they actually gave
you the clearance without mentioning names or events so that means something is correct you
know yeah yeah I mean of course uh you know they give you the clearance to say 2027 yeah for example
that's how I look at it yeah but and he makes sense in the way that um the way the story the
narrative of this ufo uh through decades long yeah it's coming up is like a 10-year program
started in 2017 we know that because we just saw the videos of the tic tac yeah that was released
to the New York Times with the pentagon in 2017 yes correct then now we have Ramirez saying that
look man it's like a 10-year campaign yeah 2027 2027 is the year yeah but coming back to the point
about you said clearances people like Ramirez people like I said grush had to get clearance
right he was very careful throughout the entire hearing yes where he said I cannot mention that
here it's classified I cannot mention it here we're going to talk in the skiff I will give you the
information then including names and lists of third party contractors the military industrial
complex who are these people uh the people who who whistle-blowed who are they I will give it to you
but only in the skiff right yeah um and uh well though he was given the green light to reveal
certain information what happened after the hearing was that somewhat some some group of people
some agency perhaps tried to smear him over his medical records yes correct yeah but the thing
is is that yeah he admitted I've got PTSD so what correct right but it people are trying to smear
him yeah so I don't know whether or not this goes further and deeper than his bosses true they are
basically um critics in the United States uh no I'm saying deep state man I don't know I'm saying
shadow shadow government I don't know I don't know I'm just saying yeah the general story is that uh
it's very hard to keep something so secret for so long yeah okay that's the first reason yeah okay
there's some logic to that how can you keep secret for 70 years number one number two is that um
it's what David Grash is doing just repeating stories that we have already heard in the circle
for years and years he's just bringing it out so it's something fresh yeah okay publicity stunt
whatever uh so that people will know and realize but this story is not new yeah this ufo uh thing
uh for those who are watching for the very first time it's not a new phenomena it has happened for
many many years yeah right so we have even records uh from maybe hundreds of years back yeah yeah you
know so so this is nothing new so he's just maybe just saying the same thing over again but uh in
another format right and then also um you can either embrace it as the definitive truth or to
be uh to be balanced in your view you can dismiss it out yeah you know so so these are a few things
that uh as a listener and so as a viewer of this show uh but it what we have done basically is to
inform you that such things has happened uh and they are actually looking into it but how
successful they are and how deep this content will go we will have to wait and see yeah yeah
yeah right so we're talking as we're talking about uh crash sites i think maybe some of you may be
wondering no i never crashed before i've never heard of this uh incident of a flying saucer
crashing okay is is their technology is so strong how can they crash but actually there was a crash
okay there was my assumption okay but um some people say no some people say yes but uh the
very famous one if you watch the x-files if you watch a lot of ufo or science fiction movies
yeah right everything you watch like right they will mention about this incident called the roswell
incident even the tv shows tv series called roswell correct yeah right so it's a big thing
so roswell incident basically uh what happened was uh the july of 1947 okay you must imagine
that july 1947 is just very close to the end of world war two right so there was still a lot of
tension or surveillance uh because the war has ended but people has not yet uh deemed the world
as a safe place yet because they still got military stuff everywhere so there was a uh army airfield
personnel who issued a press release right announcing possession of a flying disc right
okay so that means that they recovered a metallic stuff so uh i think was after that a day or two
later they retracted the story and they said it was just a metallic and rubber debris from a military
balloon a weather balloon a weather balloon yeah so of course 1947 we don't have social media we
don't have nothing we only have this uh story coming out in the roswell ranch which is basically
a newspaper belonging to that state a small town yeah so nobody has heard i said okay that's rubbish
blah blah blah so uh what happened was uh it again uh sort of came into public view many years later
1978 okay what was what happened was that that was a ufologist this is a real one not me i just
bed it one this is a engine i think he's a engineer or some physics scientist or something his name is
stanton freeman right nuclear physicists nuclear physicists yeah yeah correct correct so you know
his credentials are great so he's stanton freeman so he actually had an interview with a lefton a
retired lieutenant colonel in 1978 jesse marcel so in that interview marcel revealed that the
weather balloon cover up was a story only just to divert the public's public's attention right um
the debris he speculated came from an extraterrestrial origin and then he gave
a lot of reasons why you know so um that's the then that's how he blew up this whole thing called
the roswell incident from the 1978 book that stanton freeman wrote so uh it became very very
very uh big in the world right and now we have this sort of called urban legend that has happened
right okay i use a very safe term urban legends because i don't just go and oh this is the thing
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so coming back to uh this roswell incident yeah so the the by his testimony he came out a lot of
complex theories right uh he went to actually do more investigation in he tried to get all those
people who who were there present the military personnel the nurses right the secretaries
even the farmers right and all of them sort of supported his statement okay so they corroborated
the story yes yes story so uh that's why uh in the the story still stands very strong yeah that
they recovered a crash disk right so when david grush spoke to the senate uh in july last month
this was the first thing that hit many people's head the roswell incident right yeah so which
which brings me to this bit here because i think you know what david grush has done and together
with graves and and uh favor the three whistleblowers so far who were witnesses and given the testimonies
to congress but besides those are recent times but i think if we go a little further back
what people have discovered like people like stanton freedman uh people like bill moore you
know uh what they discovered about about how serious the american government began to actually
take uh the the ufo phenomena which they denied and they've denied for 70 years right
uh but we know that they've been serious because of this document called dmj 12 it's actually a
microfiche yes received from an anonymous sender to film producer and ufo researcher jamie shanderah
in the 1980s and shanderah was actually in collaboration uh with stanton freedman and
and ufologist bill moore right on a potential documentary project on roswell right yeah um so
this document actually showcased 12 important people not just from the intelligence and military
community but also from the private commercial contractor community yes and that's that's that's
kind of kind of serious you know yeah and signed off by harry truman yes correct yeah so these are
known as the majestic 12 yeah the mj 12 group yes right and there was a a purportedly document
that came out from there um that has all the names on it and then the signature of harry truman yes
and he actually admitted this to his then secretary of defense james forrestal that's right so he did
admit it that look listen there is this group called mj 12 yeah is there is this the is there
still a group mj 12 today um we don't know probably not but there may be a different group
right now overseeing this entire campaign yes correct you know yeah interestingly bong even
case you don't know the brits the british also have a kind of similar arrangement uh
uh somewhere in world war two it was suggested that an intergovernmental agreement was made
before mj 12 i see between churchill and eisenhower over the fact that churchill was
concerned that ufos to him they were real and that they had better not make it public because it'd be
too much for people to handle during time of war and he also said they could change religious
beliefs and destroy the church so the brits i mean allegedly could also have something going on where
that's concerned between them and the u.s government yeah actually uh to be very honest i think every
country has one whether it is admitted or not okay uh so i'm going to say something now very
controversial sure yeah but of course it's nothing offensive yep okay uh because i saw a video of
uh the mh 370 when they had a press conference yeah right so uh the defense person was explaining
the plane over penang so on the satellite dish right he says he saw an unknown orb all they could
say i saw a dot and an unknown op okay so when questioned they cannot give an answer okay right
so that is uh an aside okay just but i'm just trying to say that we have military people looking
at satellites all the time in defense of their airspace radar radar right so they have a of course
they a very simple thing is just they will lock down what they see yeah and then um of course now
that the topic is is quite big in the u.s yeah i'm sure a lot of government intelligence people are
also preparing i mean in a way start the committee a small one one two member thing yeah and then
just try to but you do know bomb i mean end of the day there's some there are also whack jobs out there
right yeah we we this this bunch of ding bad sometimes i've seen some of these one or two
youtube videos you know of some other people youtubers who came up with this story about mh
370 i mean i i i think that that's really too much speculation that's concerned man i mean i don't
know you know like why would they do this if they wanted to take uh an airline let's say you know
t for example hypothetically they want they want to take anything they they would have done it a
long time ago you know why why this particular flight because i was just struck at that press
conference when that malaysian defense minister or defense attache or defense person yeah he said
we saw a blob but we cannot identify did he really say that was it was it in camera man it was on
camera in front of the press really yeah the whole is just zooming in holy shit man i must have missed
out that was a very catchy thing it was just very fast but you could actually but nobody picked up
on it or hopped on it no one because at that time you know wow i mean of course we will not
use these kind of things to speculate yeah so i mean the idea of of me mentioning that yeah it's
just basically that sometimes things happen yeah the military will have to keep track of what is
happening yeah well it's so strange man every time you think about singaporeans and or people in
asia they always seem to think that this shit doesn't happen any and you know in asia but i i've
discovered a couple of things though in case you didn't know there are there are lesser known ufo
crashes in the world outside of the u.s. yes but one interesting one that was in the u.s. that i
gotta say actually happened in nebraska in dundee county in on june 6 1884 wow that's a long time
ago way before roswell you know you know and and this thing crashed and some men approached it some
of them actually got actually died of burns because the heat was so bad coming out of emitted out from
the uh this craft that they that they that they were approaching you know and this is way back
when and it was reported in the nebraska nugget newspaper i see yeah yeah you know uh sorry one
of the witnesses would suffer intense burns from getting too close to the to the craft yeah and then
they said what's interesting was when they tried to move it they were shocked at how remarkably
light it was even though the exterior was a strong unknown metal at the time yes true true yeah so
sometimes reports like that are interesting especially the older ones just like some
photography of photographs of flying saucers right i always like to trust uh when i advise people who
are into this topic pick up the oldest one 1945 1946 1950 plus because sometimes those images are
true that means you can prove them whether to be real or not uh if you just say i take a new
photograph now uh there's an alien above tempanis uh sorry a ufo above tempanis that way wow that
you know all photoshop is so clear everything so yeah so so sometimes uh what investigators do or
ufologists they will try to study the craft the dimension of the craft by using these very old
black and white pictures you know there were there in singapore right uh i found that there were six
incidences uh reports of ufo sightings that's interesting 1944 okay 1947 wow 1952 if i'm not
mistaken and 1954 55 wow the most interesting one was the one that was in 1976 76 yeah okay that
one is interesting because it was i think the it was a japanese vessel off our shores uh and it was
called the shinjumaru if i'm not mistaken and witnesses on that ship said that there was a craft
that skimmed the wave and shot off into the sky wow uh and the one in 1947 was spotted by a british
sergeant a soldier and he was describing this craft that was sputtering out uh it was moving
erratically and it was sputtering stuff out of his butt like just like the one you saw
in the south yeah yeah and surprisingly there was another witness in joho baru they saw the same
thing i see on the same day wow yeah so uh i found this particular uh space online where uh
uh everything is basically located there for you to check on oh very good uh yeah so so i went
to search in singapore and i found all these it was pretty remarkable man yeah correct because
sometimes um reports like that get lost yeah right yeah you know yeah it just get lost because but
it's interesting to hear that this is the first time hearing it so the true ufology is ladies
gentlemen put your hands together no no no i got good sources as well you know yeah but you know
now that we're on the topic of mj12 i mean you want to go back to rosswell and go on with mj12
okay and just in case you didn't know also after mj12 there was another interesting
document that came about years later years later through stephen greer oh yeah correct
dr stephen greer right yeah i've been polarizing figure as you mentioned earlier before in the last
episode uh and a lot of ufologists actually think the same way about him um dr stephen greer is the
founder of the close encounters five group ce5 ce5 and these guys actually somehow able to call out
these uap's or ufos to appear yes through meditation true yeah you guys should check it out
i mean i think it's on netflix yeah uh and uh he received stephen greer documents from an anonymous
center same just like mj12 right anonymous in the mail about this project called project aquarius
okay okay i don't know if i'm sure you heard of it i heard of it yeah uh so project aquarius
apparently allegedly supposedly is a u.s government's top secret ufo monitoring initiative
and this was during the eisenhower administration and the objective is to glean over the maximum
scientific and technological information from any alien spacecraft in particular now this is where
it gets hot it reported the existence of an et an et being known as eb e b e which allegedly survived
the rosswell crash and taken to a military facility eb uh is short for extraterrestrial
biological entity which we know in the recent congress how david grush reported these he calls
them non-human biological entities there you go it's been going around i mean look look at project
aquarius right yeah that's what stephen greer tests to the alleged document that he received
right and eb now this is where it gets even hotter eb the creature the alien being
came from the zeta reticuli star system now he survived it survived she survived i don't know
what the hell to call it but i think the sexist genderless survived until june 18 1952 where he
died of an un he she whatever died of an unknown disease now i tell you what caught me there man
zeta reticuli yes what's your take on zeta reticuli uh zeta reticuli right it's uh
yeah but still 8000 light years away there's a lot of things about that system there's a lot
you know exactly yeah so uh uh it's uh i don't know where to begin but i when i first heard of
this uh zeta reticuli that was back in the 1970s uh i saw a documentary right uh the documentary
was uh was based on the story of uh chariots of the gods oh okay so it was a documentary about
uh ufos so they mentioned that these people came from zeta zeta zeta reticuli yeah so it hit me what
a funny name it starts with a z you know that kind of thing but i know it's linked to many things
maybe you can you have the honor i don't know whether or not these are quacks man but you know
it's so damn interesting yeah it's a star system it's a star system uh and in that star system these
people are really really advanced right this race of people we call them they are known to the people
in the ufo circle as the talls right we also know that based on some abductees stories that they
claim when they were abducted is usually the short little fellas we call the greys yeah now the greys
are apparently grown out of a petri dish so to speak uh they are uh like biological robots
that's right built by the talls yes because the talls can't take our dimension or our our
gravity is too dense for them so they send these guys out but back in zeta reticuli in that star
system they were at war with the gray race and i think we this i mean there's this uh you know
i think they they they sort of probably won that conflict the tolls and they took some of the
greys and and then they replicated them for their use yes right but they apparent and what is with
what some of the abductees were saying is that these guys the tolls they're not malevolent to us
they are benevolent they're not out here to give us trouble but they are concerned
about the state of our world yeah they're here merely as observers i think yeah so this guy this
poor eeby came is a tall or a short one i don't know which one really i'm not sure that came from
zeta reticuli and funny enough you remember uh this name travis walton yeah travis walton the
famous abduct the abductee uh who was a forestry worker right yes correct he was abducted for five
days and and he didn't really i mean under hypnosis he realized what happened to him yeah um very
famous story and travis walton also said that the people that took him came from zeta reticuli
but they are they seem more human yeah i do not know whether uh i can't recall the facts uh betty
and bunny hill right i think they do come from that place as well also right yeah yeah there we go so
so there's a common thread about this people coming in yeah um like what chris has said is a
very good uh i mean if you just go back a bit your video and you listen to him uh you can pick out a
lot of things right these are what you call uh um biological being beings in other words for aliens
you know nicer term biological beings that are here so there are basically a few uh some of these
ufologists in the u.s have studied them through what they call abduction series or abduction
stories and they find out that they're actually a few reasons they are actually on earth or are
already here i mean they are on earth uh but some are already living with us you know there are stories
like that so it's another topic for another day because it's very big yeah another big topic yeah
so coming back to the crash of this uh roswell roswell we had the majestic 12 group that was
released a document i think through a microfilm put inside a letter box they took it out then they
went to check so the the what happened was that the uh majestic 12 letter or that page a few pages
was put up to scrutiny a lot of people had a lot of arguments in the ufo circle some saying that
it's rubbish uh it is not is nothing is just a piece of a document that is out to uh lie to the
community another group people say israel so the standard frequency israel analysis so they put uh
the letter actually into a lot of our research and try to get the head and tail of it so until now it
is still majestic 12 as it is uh there is no conclusion as to whether that letter is real or
not but uh it did come from a certain period of time so talking about crashes uh because we were
just touching a bit about roswell all this that we have mentioned i guess maybe you can read up
or do more investigation on on your own but we also have a very interesting character out of all
this that came out he was born in 1959 he's an american businessman and conspiracy theorist
or whatever he says that he is a reverse engineer from ariel 51 his name is bob lazar so bob lazar
is very uh is a very interesting character because he actually uh purports that he has examined
alien craft and read u.s government briefing documents that describe alien involvement in
human affairs over the past 10 000 years so his claims brought additional public attention to
ariel 51 because that's where he worked and that's how he started aria 51 blah blah blah and uh he has
a following of supporters and detractors but he has uh no evidence given yet uh as to all things
that he has done but bob lazar is one of those links again to this thing about crash sources
that david grush has mentioned at the senate uh to the senate committee he's one of those uh
interesting topics that is linked to that so um for those of you who are not very sure who this guy
is uh perhaps again you can look online to find out who this bob lazar is well you know uh just
to add on a little bit more about bob lazar let me just add some stricken spice to the story
all right this is a guy that that actually fit who was able to fit a jet engine to his honda
and he drives to work every day in a jet engine and because of that right he got so famous
that the uh military recruited him to work at area 51 now well allegedly again we let's
let's link area 51 to roswell right yeah allegedly the crashed down aircraft was brought over to
area 51 yeah and then bob lazar attests like david grush in the whistle blows that there has been
reverse engineering as you said now let me just tell you what bob lazar said himself yeah
yeah apparently the fuel to fly these craft come from an element called element 115
this does not exist in our known table of elements yes it is exotic technology yes
element 115 is said to be able to bend or fold space time and is fuel for electromagnetism
antimatter and anti-gravity propulsion now it's interesting because he really went and drew out
this whole schematic yeah where you have uh what's it called now anti-gravity
what's the word for it anti-gravity
uh they are like three engines right three looks like you know rods sticking out yeah and what it
does is that it can work independently um it actually uh with element 115 it manipulates
space time space time correct yeah yeah and it ensures that there's anti-gravity the skin of the
sea's craft must be like a wave guide for high frequency magnetic radiation that becomes like an
anti-gravity effect or anti-graviton effect where you can negate gravity in your surrounding area
and be weightless yeah so the whole craft with these things right that's pointing down will
generate a sort of a field around the entire craft and what's interesting is because a few
people have said this that where et is concerned over this technology is concerned space time
at any point in space time anywhere it is exactly the same all right so what is this what does this
mean if we see uh ufo zipping from one spot to the next and into the next it is virtually the same
it is virtually impossible but are they really moving uh theory has it it doesn't yeah they're
bending time they're bending time so okay right now we're bending time we see time there
in the next few seconds we want to be there and so therefore i'm there yeah at not speed of light
but at the speed of thought because they're saying that the way to pilot these craft is via
extra sensory perceptions via esp yes so bob lazar has said all these things you know
it's absolutely fascinating yeah it's so fucking fascinating and he says that the
there's no need for too much energy for extreme maneuvers so basically it's just a tiny bit of
energy that you need yeah uh and that the skin is like fabric to the touch very tough and durable
uh and there's some even something resembling gold threads but weighs nothing i mean it's it's a kind
of alloy we just cannot understand yeah and lastly there's a sphere in the like the size of a
basketball in the center of the craft yeah this is this is the main thing uh that that that moves
the spacecraft it's like the engine it drops down when weight is added inside the car so if you step
into it whoop it becomes weightless when you step in this sphere drops down and then you become
weightless right um so the craft was at the rise and when there's weight applied inside the craft
yeah so that's what bob lazar has said it's ridiculous man it's crazy yeah you're gonna buy
a flying saucer look for chris he says all the specs so you can build you one man i tell you so
bob lazar again is another polarizing force in the ufo community he has been around for a long time
but again there's a lot of people who want to shoot him down uh by saying about talking about his uh
he's selling illegal chemicals uh and then he was involved convicted in 1990 for a prostitution ring
blah blah so this all try to screw him over basically yeah so this is the natural progression
of how certain things happen you know if you if you reveal too much so therefore this uh
case in point is actually very educational for people who are listening in those who already know
these topics you'll find that it's nothing new yeah if you're listening to this for the very first
time you will open your eyes and open your ears yeah because we try to be very balanced we try
to give as much but we yeah most of the time we try to skim the topic and then we don't go really
quite deep inside due to time factor yeah but it is quite a big thing so after all this is done
once we have the uh the congressional hearings it keeps going on more people more people are involved
and then we have the history of the roswell and the majestic 12 documents and then we have uh
characters like bob lazar and other uh alien abduction uh sort of testimonies given by people
right the next thing will come which is the disclosure right so what's the meaning of
disclosure now disclosure means okay i admit let's have all the prime ministers and presidents of the
world in the united nations admit to the world we are being visited they are going to come blah blah
blah so uh be prepared we are not alone so that's why you call it disclosure whatever you have heard
all these 80 years 100 years it is true so how do we actually uh deal with that now i come from
where i come from which is the island of singapore which is very small if you go to the man on the
street here when you talk about these topics i think a mere one percent will understand the 99
they don't know because it is really out of their realm they have never heard of it they have never
been inside uh the topic before because they're all in a very safe zone so i i would say maybe
we are a reflection the country is a reflection of many other societies in the world where such a
topic it never actually crossed their mind if it were to come it would be a very big shock to the
system big shock to the system because some people don't even know what are grays what are aliens
what are flying saucers that i mean unfortunately yeah they're not learning enough because of their
life they're they're more interested in i guess making a buck a living the same goes for the us
the recent congressional hearing uh only about five percent of the u.s population were interested
really yeah the rest of it is like oh okay there's nothing uh okay well let's move on so the major
newspapers uh they didn't they just write in passing there was this thing but they didn't
really pay much attention and blow it up and this is something big in the history of mankind it
didn't happen that way so should disclosure happen one fine day that i think the world will still be
in a shock well you know as you said you know i mean okay let's let's really try put up a disclaimer
here okay again we are we the only reason why we we come back together to talk about this topic
simply because it's really entertaining it's interesting it's fun to talk about yeah yeah and
also we recognize the fact as we said a couple of times that in singapore and in asia it's a very
this is a very least talk about topic and so we just want to talk about it that's about the size
of it whether you believe it or not it's really up to you we're not saying that it's true we're not
saying it's real we're saying that hey look guys it's fun yeah yeah and then we can't excuse me
i hate the fact that you know people have there've been witnesses there've been videos taken and and
and if you think if you think it doesn't happen in asia or in your own hometown let me just show you
this clip and you tell me whether it's familiar we're not saying something happened we're just
saying that it was really interesting worthwhile to take a look at can we play that one please
the one that happened that's the one there you go now this is a still shot taken by a tourist
named warren nichols on the top of the marina bay sands at ndp 2023 national day parade yep
that's our fly past yes now take a look at that in circ circle in blue now kai if you could just
speed it up and just let people take a look at that you see it started from here and then there
he goes he went past now could we say there was dust no look at that trajectory is too linear
yeah it's too linear yeah yeah it's too fast was that was that a glare from the sun going like that
and through the clouds yeah i don't think so man you must understand the speed of that fighter jet
yeah but you know what i'm gonna again disclaimer man i'm not saying that our own authorities don't
know whether there are things up there or know there are things up there i'm not saying anything
like that yeah can i can i see that again yeah here we go that that's uh you have the real video
yeah maybe the the full video there we go uh he's coming he's coming up right now here we go
gonna fly past national day parade
right
nine second mark
so was that a nine second mark okay he's slowing it down
so
do you see it yeah it's very fast it is very fast very very fast it just zoomed right past yeah so
what we did was
us okay kai if we bring back the stills please the still shots for that
take your time don't worry don't panic this is very interesting yeah take a look at this uh
if we were to go just one more the next frame oh there you go yeah you see that
now what i did was i enlarged that i from from here we thought you know was that a tic tac no
it was a it was a disc shape object right uh and it really just zoomed right past just like that
and it's crazy man it was just boom just like that yeah i don't think it was an aircraft now if you're
saying that's a bird yep or an insect in front of the lens i doubt so because i see the trajectory
of that movement as a very straight line yep okay it is obviously yes as you can see very slowly
yeah see the frame the frame by frame is linear it's linear yeah right it's not like a bug or
something right i mean we know what as a bug is yeah there is sunlight coming out it's taken in
the day yeah and uh uh as you can see the the jet is the best reference because of the speed of that
yes of that aeroplane yeah and you see it's flying do you think that this was uh this was uh you know
uh doctored i don't think it's doctored yeah in my personal opinion because we have seen sightings
like that around the world when they fly by very quickly okay very fast but i'm amazed that that uh
this was actually captured because normally people will shoot such a video but it was just stay
silent okay i don't know what's that yeah but the thing is is that they were obviously shooting from
the top nbs right correct maybe at a sky park and then they were taking a shot of the fly pass yeah
right obviously people would videotape the fly pass for those who are not in the know nbs is a
marina base sense in singapore with a very famous building yeah uh where they have this boat shaped
thing with an infinity pool where you can swim right so i can't swim there because i'm too fat
overflows overflow so so that's where the infinity pool and that's where uh they will charge very
expensive uh drinks drinks if you have a national day parade in singapore which happens oh it's
going to be freaking expensive yeah very expensive so you have a full view of the fireworks and the
display and the parade and everything but worth the money man because singapore is a beautiful
country man if you go at the top nbs you really see a wonderful view very beautiful view but
just again one i'm going to show you one more okay this one was taken three years ago credit to
fire rose al mudin for posting this in youtube uh this is singapore and this is the footage now
uh the person speaking who's filmed this we will hear her speak as well okay
take a look at that look at that
he's so secular gang
gang no it's hidden in the clouds now
it disappeared
it just it's like behind the cloud
uh
you see that's a plane you see that is a plane
that is not a plane she's funny man donut in the sky
oh there it is beeping out the clouds again and it's so bright babe
now i don't think that's venus i don't think that's uh any of our planets i wish i had the
huawei 13 what 23 yeah how many times look at that now you saw that yeah it's spinning
la babe see see see babe i don't know if it was spinning or whether it was pulsating right
pixelated really i think it's pretty damn clear
bye
well she's funny man again credit to fire was on moodin thanks for posting this up on youtube uh
three years back that happened three years ago man yeah but you know uh again uh the last time
you were not here and douglas was here uh you should have seen his videos okay one at two in
the afternoon let me hear right on ccb tv yeah it'll be here so i don't tell it to me i would
like to watch it one at two in the afternoon and one at night yeah and these things follow him man
yeah true yeah there are cases where where we have heard of stories like that yeah somehow there is
a connection i know uh what is this bugger talking about what connection between the alien and you
some people do attract things like that and uh i don't know how to explain it but wherever they
are in any part of the world they will come yeah yeah there are cases in france there are cases in
australia where they actually get very good footages there's a sometimes in there was a
famous one i think in switzerland or zurek somewhere in norway right up there a long time
ago yeah so they take perfect pictures of this craft um it's starting to be laughed about because
when you see those the way they take those videos you know it's not doctored how do i know because
i know a bit about video doctoring so so that's the thing now this video that was shown just shown
uh what struck me is my first time seeing it is the luminosity the brightness of the object right
okay some people say it's the moon okay the moon represents my heart no not really um i don't think
so it's a moon because uh the way it is moving right i love the commentary by the uh videographer
it's very interesting but what struck me is basically the the way it just moves and uh
uh through the clouds and out now some people say no the light stationary the cloud is moving
right i don't think so it it is that way because we have observed the moon and the clouds how
are most this is very yeah natural yeah let's let's go back to roswell for a bit let me pull up that
map of roswell yeah uh kai there you go the reason why i pulled out this map for roswell is because
if you notice man uh roswell is right there right and you can see i think to the left of the map
if i'm not mistaken you see white sands missile base yeah uh and it is really quite well known
that where ufos appear they love to appear where the u.s bases are especially where the nuclear
facilities nuclear missile facilities are located yeah so that map was kind of interesting when you
take a look at it see to white sands missile base yes there is a testing ground if i'm not mistaken
i'm not american you're not american so we're just guessing about that but it's clear it's a missile
base yes um and uh beyond that uh there is this guy you know i just you know i i guess been an
hour already so i think we can end off the program right right now well i just want to end with this
the director of skunk works skunk works we know is the prototype development uh part of the company
of lockheed martin aeronautical company yes an aeronautics company uh and and these are the
guys they get the contracts from the u.s government um ben rich was the director of skunk works from
75 to 91 he gave a lecture to the ucla school of engineering and the last slide of his 40 slides
that he showed to these guys had a black disc heading into space he ended his speech with these
words we now have the technology to take et home after the lecture he told one of his attendees
that the vessel worked at the principle of esb extra sensory perception it's not clear
how it was connected to the proportion of the craft but he hinted that all points in space time
were connected it is a noiseless craft capable of achieving both radar and optical invisibility
a magnetic field disruptor which neutralizes the effects of gravity and is massive and comparable
to two football fields yeah so it's it's he said quite a lot actually uh but this is where we have
to end the show and this and how we're ending the first of the chris hansen conversations uh ufo
reveal azure series we're ending this with the with president eisenhower's farewell speech and
it's just going to be this short little excerpt thanks again uh bong for being here uh as usual
it's been informative it's been fun we've got a lot more to tell people about yeah uh and uh this
is chris hansen leaving you with dwight e eisenhower here we go
in the councils of government we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence
whether sought or unsought by the military industrial complex
so