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Hello and welcome back to the PHSA podcast.

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My name is David Bigford.

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I'm the pastor here at SalmonArm.

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This is a very special podcast series where I'm going to be sharing with you messages

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from our most recent conference in Prescott, Arizona, the Beyond Limits Conference with

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a theme of to preach the gospel in the regions beyond from 2 Corinthians 10-16.

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I'm going to share all of the sermons from this conference series to include Greg Mitchell,

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our head pastor, Joe Campbell, Richard Ruby, Tom Payne, and many, many others during this

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series.

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So I'll be sharing these with you over the next couple of weeks, and I hope you really

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enjoy these messages.

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If you'd like to see these messages in a video format, you can go to PrescottPottersHouse.com

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where all of these will be available for you to view in a video format.

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So without further ado, I'm going to pass, I'm going to go ahead and move on to the messages

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and I hope you enjoy them.

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God bless.

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I got the nine o'clock slot on Friday.

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Amen.

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Praise God.

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What an incredible conference.

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Amen.

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Everybody's been, I felt all week long, man, just Holy Ghost shotgun blasts, 50 cal, 44

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mag, and here I am with my BB gun.

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Man.

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God help us.

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Hallelujah.

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I do want to minister out of 1 Samuel chapter number 10.

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Somebody was joking with me.

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I hope they were joking with me.

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Yesterday they said, are you ready?

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I said, I don't know.

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And they said, well, you know, preach to us, but don't do what you do.

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Don't do that crazy screaming.

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And they were joking, all right.

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I learned, I heard a preacher a long time ago say, if you can't be good, be loud.

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So here goes.

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Amen.

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Our story is, you know, the, the, the, the calling of Saul, amen, to the kingdom to become

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king.

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And the, there's already been a private anointing, but now in our story here, amen, he's about

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to be proclaimed, amen, and anointed publicly.

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And this is where we're going to pick up the story.

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Verse number 10, first, I'm sorry, verse 21, for Samuel 10.

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Then he lined up and I'm reading out of the message translation.

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He lined up the Benjamin tribe in family groups and the family of Matri was picked and the

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family of Matri took its place in the lineup and Saul, son of Kish was picked.

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But when they went looking for him, he was nowhere to be found.

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So Samuel went back to God and he asked, is he anywhere around?

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And God said, yes, he's right over there.

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He's hiding in the pile of baggage.

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Amen.

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I was reading about Joe Lewis, the Brown bomber, arguably one of the greatest heavyweight boxers

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ever.

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And I, I, I'm not into sports.

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I don't do basketball.

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I don't do football.

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I don't, I don't like that they pat them each themselves on the butt.

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I'm not into that stuff.

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I do however, like boxing.

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I think that's a man's sport.

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Joe Lewis was, became champion in 1937 when he beat James Braddock.

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I believe he knocked him out and he reigned for the next 11 years.

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And set a record.

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Of 25 defenses.

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He defended his title 25 times.

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At one point he actually was defending his title about four times a year.

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He was a busy champion.

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The only time that he didn't defend his title was three years when he enlisted in the army

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during the second world war.

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And I was thinking about this, amen, because today there's champions.

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Amen.

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There's men like Errol Spence.

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There's a guy named Jamal Charlo.

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Keith Thurman.

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These guys have something in common.

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They're all either currently champions or once were champions.

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But another thing they have in common is that these guys, amen, hardly ever defended their

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title.

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I think one of them went like three years without defending his title.

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Jamal Charlo was recently finally stripped, amen, of the title.

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These are champions in absentia.

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Absent champions.

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Can we talk?

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Is that all right?

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I'm getting a little looser now.

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I was a little nervous, still kind of am.

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Loosen up.

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Come on, somebody.

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Champions in absentia.

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I mean, the issue is not gifting.

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The issue is not power.

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They got it.

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The issue, amen, is not resources.

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They got it going on.

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The issue is they're nowhere to be found.

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They're hiding in the baggage.

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Oh, can I get a double?

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I got to watch myself going up and down the stairs.

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One of my disciples text me early in the morning, pastor, don't forget to stretch.

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This is the generation of the absentee.

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Come on, somebody.

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We got absentee dads.

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Dads in absentia.

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We got absent workers.

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We got absent church people in the kingdom of God.

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I wonder where are the champions?

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All right, I'm going to get comfortable.

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Don't you get too comfortable, all right?

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That's just me.

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I got ice in my water because it's going to get hot in here in a minute.

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Amen.

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Hallelujah.

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Listen, in our fellowship, what a wonderful fellowship we're a part of.

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We just completed our conference two weeks ago, our second annual conference.

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We got a new building.

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Glory to God.

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We were able to hold our conference in our building.

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Amen.

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We announced a bunch of people.

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Amen.

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I lost count.

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Sent a number of workers overseas.

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Well, they haven't been sent yet.

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I was hoping to take an offering here this morning.

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We're an awesome, awesome fellowship.

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What an incredible thing last night.

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14, was that correct?

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14, wow.

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Record.

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Come on, talk about defending our title.

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Glory to God.

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But here's Saul.

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Let's go back to brother Saul here.

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He's hiding in the baggage.

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He's an absent champion.

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Come on somebody.

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This is where we find him.

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Hallelujah.

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Disappeared.

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Gone, boy.

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Hiding.

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And the issue was not skill.

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The issue was not talent.

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The issue was not gifting or power or resources.

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Here we have a man full of the Holy Ghost.

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We have a man with a gift of God.

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We have a man who is a prophet.

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But he's hiding in the baggage.

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Amen.

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We have some good, well-trained people in our fellowship.

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Better than anywhere else.

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Come on somebody.

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There are those who have tremendous insight and revelation.

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They grasp the beauty of the gospel and discipleship and church planting.

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They're able to articulate the finer points of the fellowship way better than I can.

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But when it comes to the reality of it, the applicable, practical, and profitable reality

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of this, many are like a ghost.

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Invisible.

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Absent.

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Nowhere to be found.

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You know, later we find Saul right where the rubber meets the road.

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Word war against the Philistines.

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And again, he's hiding.

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He's nowhere to be found.

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He's in the safety of his tent.

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And in 1 Samuel 17 verse 4, the scripture refers to Goliath, right?

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He's the one that's coming out and challenging the people of Israel.

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Refers to him as a champion of the camp of the Philistines.

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But not a single champion of the camp of the kingdom of God, amen, came forward.

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And I wonder, where are the champions of God?

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Thank God that it's Friday, right?

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Tonight we're going to do it again.

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Going to be exciting stuff.

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I want to preach.

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Can I preach?

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Man, some of you look like you don't want me to preach.

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Come on now.

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Let's talk about exposing the absent champion.

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Because the enemy exposing is exactly his strategy.

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The champion from the camp of the Philistines, amen, is clamoring.

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He's calling for a champion of the camp of Israel, amen.

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And in so doing, what he's doing is he is exposing a sad reality.

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And that is that there is nobody.

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There is no champion to come forward, amen, and say, I'm going to defend the title.

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Some scholars believe that the name of Goliath derives amen from the Hebrew word gala, which

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actually means amen to expose, to discover, to reveal, to display someone.

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More explicitly, it means amen to shame or humiliate by uncovering someone's nakedness.

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The picture that I get here is in 2 Samuel chapter number 10, amen, and verse 4 and 5.

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When the Ammonite king has passed, he was a friend of David, and David sends a delegation

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to comfort the son of Hanan, amen.

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And as he goes there, Hanan's people say, no, they're not here to comfort you.

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They're here to spy out the land.

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And so they shave off half their beard, cut off their garments, amen, up to the buttocks

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and send them off, the Bible says, greatly shaming them.

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This is the picture of Goliath.

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It is that demon-possessed man in the book of Acts chapter 19, almost tripped, jumping

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on the seven sons of Sceva, beating the daylights out of them, bloody, ripping off their clothes,

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send them off naked.

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Can you imagine that?

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Shaming them.

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You say, what's that got to do with anything, brother?

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Glad you asked.

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Because this is exactly what happens, amen, when the devil steps out and he challenges,

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come on somebody, and nobody's rising up.

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There's neighborhoods, there's cities, there's nations of the world, and the champions are

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absent, and the devil is exposing and shaming the nakedness of the church.

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Slow down, Rick.

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Whew.

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All right.

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Let's go back.

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Are we good?

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The enemy exposes by calling out and no one answering.

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All too often, our churches, Pastor Mitchell, I remember him saying this.

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He said, our churches are filled with good people doing nothing.

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Oh, come on somebody.

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Man, is it hot in here?

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Is it just me, honey?

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Is it me?

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My wife is back there saying, is you, baby.

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As my crying partner, hey, I got the stickers for reserved seating.

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I did this first time ever.

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My wife was waiting outside.

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I went out there, check it out, baby, we got reserved seating.

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She said, I don't want reserved seating.

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I want to fight for my seat.

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That's gangster right there, baby.

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The enemy exposes, amen, when he exposes, amen, it becomes a win for him.

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Every time that a neighborhood or a city or a nation is left untouched because of absent

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champions, amen, a victory is done for the enemy and that ain't right.

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I noticed last night, everybody's playing music.

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If I would have known that I could do that, I would have come in with James Brown.

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James Brown used to have a song back in the 70s called The Big Payback.

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One of the lines of the song said, you took my money, you stole my honey, and that ain't

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right.

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I said, it ain't right.

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Come on, somebody.

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Let's talk about exploring the absent champion.

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I was preaching recently, well, a few months back overseas, and I was having a conversation

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with a missionary, and he was excited about coming back, amen, on leave for their conference.

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He said, I'm excited because I'm going to go visit one of my close friends and his family.

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They're pastoring, and he told me the city they were pastoring in.

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They're both from the same mother church, which he really values that.

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Of course, their co-disciples grew up together.

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But the reason he told me that he really values this brother and this relationship is because

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many of the other couples and men of that era that were growing up together, that were

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getting sent out, are nowhere to be found today.

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Come on now, they sold the farm.

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Hello.

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Backslater, doing nothing, just absent, flaked out.

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So let's take a closer look at the champion that's hiding in the baggage.

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Maybe that's you.

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That's all right.

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God's going to expose you, and you'll get out of the baggage, and you'll do a work for

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God.

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So let's consider, first of all, the marks of an absent champion.

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Listen, champions have marks, man.

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They're called scars.

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I used to consider myself a champion on the streets, but I didn't get this good looking

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overnight.

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Got my nose cracked a few times, got my teeth knocked, two of them knocked out, both together,

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together, not one at a time, together.

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That's how you roll, baby.

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You're going to do it.

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Go big or go home.

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I wonder about the marks of a champion.

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How about the marks of an absent champion?

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First of all, the marks of an absent champion.

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The absent champion is marked, but I know this is going to be very basic.

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Some of you come, you want something deep.

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Ask for Pastor Torrey.

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He's next.

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I can't, listen, you want to get too deep.

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Jesus might come back.

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He won't be able to find you.

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You're so deep.

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Where to go?

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One of the marks, amen, is that of an unused life.

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Again, the issue is not gifting.

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The issue is not resources.

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Man, we are a blessed fellowship.

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Talent, you got it.

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Amen.

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Whatever gift, amen, that Saul had, he allowed it to be unused.

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He buried it, squandered it, right?

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Like the unfaithful steward, amen, in Matthew 25, verse 18, who received one talent, dug

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the earth, and hid the Lord's money.

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Saul, as many men are, amen, is inactive, lethargic, wasting away.

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A lot of men are doing that.

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In fact, I see it happening with guys that are getting older.

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Oh, come on somebody.

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Well, you know, it used to be.

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That's how it was.

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Amen.

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I had a, you know, I'm in my 60s, all right?

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Recently I turned 60.

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More recently I turned 63.

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And in the very recent future, I'll be 64.

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I can collect social security.

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I can.

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But I ain't gonna.

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I got some old guys in my church, amen.

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They joined the senior citizens of, what do you call it?

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Bear, you joined it.

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What is it?

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And they're trying to talk me into it.

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Come on, pastor.

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Join us.

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They got a free, they got real cheap lunch.

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You can work out.

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They got golf.

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I said, absolutely not.

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I ain't gonna hang out with you old fuddy duddies.

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Sorry, Bear.

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I don't want my life to become inactive and lethargic.

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I want to go down swinging.

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Oh, come on somebody.

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Listen, sometimes you swing and you don't know what you're aiming at, but eventually

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you're gonna connect.

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The absent champion is marked by uninvolved living.

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And this, at this point, Saul is simply uninvolved.

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It's not that he doesn't know what's going on.

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He's not like Joe Biden.

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He knows.

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He knows what's up.

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He knew the predicament they're in, but he's not stepping out.

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Listen, a lot of good people.

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Can I tell you, listen, let me talk to you about revival for just a split second.

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Because you know, people, oh man, we had a crowd Sunday morning.

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You know, I like crowds.

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I like when my church is full.

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Amen.

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I dig it.

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I dig what we all do, but can I tell you, amen, revival is not churches filled with

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people.

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Revival is people filled with the Holy Ghost and a hunger and a desire to do something

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for God.

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Just like these people last night on this stage.

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Come on somebody.

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Amen.

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Listen.

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You can wave the fellowship flag all day long.

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Amen.

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But you got to choose a side.

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You either spectator or participator.

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Somebody said it last night, I think, Pastor Payne.

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What did he say?

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Having a Biden moment.

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All right, got it.

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You can't be, this is not the way I say it, what we be if you don't do what we do.

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But I can tell you that you can't, you will not do what we do if you ain't be what we

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be.

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And I know what I be.

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Amen.

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I walked into a little church in Blythe, California, January of 1984.

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Yes, it did exist.

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I was there and I walked into that little church broken, tore up from the floor up,

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beat up from the feet up.

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I needed a checkup from the neck up.

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The church at the time was pastored by Pastor Jose Urbina from Tucson, walked into that

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little church.

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Amen.

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They were showing a God-awful movie.

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Most boring movies I've ever seen in my life.

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Felt like I wasted that day.

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But after the movie, there was an altar call and there was preaching like I'd never heard

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before and the spirit of the Lord convicted my heart.

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This old thug, amen, drug addicted, filled with violence, alcoholic, broken marriage,

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healed, delivered, and set free.

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Why?

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Because there was people there.

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Shout out to the Blythe, California church.

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There was people there that were not absent champions.

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Oh, come on somebody.

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Hallelujah.

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I remember calling one of my pioneer pastors years ago.

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We sent him out.

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I had to call him one Saturday morning, discuss some issues.

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And I said, okay brother, I'm going to let you go because I know you're on your way to

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outreach because that's what we do on Saturdays.

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We have outreaches, especially when we're pioneering.

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And he says, I ain't going to outreach.

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I said, what?

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I said, what are you doing?

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He says, I'm fishing.

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That's what I said.

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I said, bro, we invested in your life.

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We sent you to this city thousands of dollars, not so you could fish.

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For men, yes.

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It's a life that is marked by an undisciplined lifestyle.

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The active word is discipline.

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And discipline is a four letter word, at least how I spell it.

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I'm not talking about spiritual discipline, you know, prayer and Bible reading, things

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like that.

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I'm talking about something a little different.

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We are folks that are not naturally, maybe you are, there are people that are naturally

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workers.

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They like to work.

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They're hard workers.

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I wish I could say that's one of my traits.

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It's not, I don't like work.

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And neither do you.

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So I have to make an effort.

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Come on somebody.

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We avoid discipline, the flesh hates it.

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Amen.

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I don't get all jumpy and bubbly.

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You know, I've been trying to take, it's like working out.

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You can't just say I joined a club.

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I joined a gym, right?

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I've been trying to take 20 pounds off, you know, that I somehow they magically appeared

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on me.

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I've been trying to take them off for the last four or five years.

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I finally caved in, man.

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I joined a gym.

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It's called Gold, what is it?

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What is it?

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What is it?

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Gold's gym.

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What did you say?

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Gold's gym.

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No, Golden Corral.

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That's the one I joined.

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I got a card and everything.

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It's so much easier to go to Golden Corral.

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I can work out.

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Listen, the business of the kingdom is hard work and it takes discipline to pull it off.

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Pastors, you got to work with men.

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You got to work with men.

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You got to work with men.

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That's my three points.

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Just like Pastor Gaiolas.

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You know, I work with men.

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This is what I do.

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This is what I dedicate my life to.

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Amen.

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In our church, that's what we do.

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We've set it up.

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Amen.

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We've got our, you know, serious men on Sunday morning.

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Amen.

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We've got on Saturday morning prayer and a men's discipleship class that I teach every

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Saturday.

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Amen.

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We have a Monday night.

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We pray and we fast.

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We go to church and pray there and I preach to the crew.

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Amen.

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We have Tuesday night outreaches, Saturday outreaches.

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We just, you know, we're working all the time.

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You say that's kind of overkill, Pastor.

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Yeah, but that's why every six months you would hear an Adagdin going into.

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That's why you heard that.

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Because there was a lot of work going on.

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Amen.

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In the backdrop.

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It's true.

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It's a lot of work.

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Amen.

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Let me give a shout out also.

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Man, to those, the real champions of our fellowship, somebody mentioned it the other day.

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Those men that are supporting, they don't get to go.

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They're there giving.

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You know, we just had Tony Huang preaching for us and I don't know why he did this, but

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he asked our congregation.

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It was packed and he asked our congregation.

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He said, how many of you have been here?

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Amen.

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Since before Pastor Martinez took over the church, you know, 20 years or more and, and

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probably maybe only about 25 people raised their hand, which was kind of sad.

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But at the same time, I'm thinking, glory to God, because it was those people that when

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everybody else was bailing out, they were right there fighting the fight, continuing

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to outreach, witness and give.

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Oh, come on somebody.

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Let me, let me hurry up here.

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Let's talk about extricating the absent champion.

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Get them out of there.

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Let me talk to you about the problem.

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There's always a problem in there.

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Dang.

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Did I just slap your mama?

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There's a problem of a divided heart.

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There's a headline I read some time back, Washington state Arlington pastor living a

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double life arrested for drug trafficking and held on a $750,000 bond.

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And then the headline said one person, two opposite lives.

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It goes on a pastor in Washington state has been arrested after living a double life.

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According to authorities to some people, he was a married spiritual leader and dedicated

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family man to others.

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He was known to have a girlfriend and actively dealing drugs.

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Police say that Steve Parker 57 maintained the separate lives in two communities about

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20 miles apart from each other.

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Investigators were tipped off late last year after about Parker's alleged drug business,

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which spanned three counties.

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When pulled over January 19th, they found 2.7 pounds of meth, fentanyl powder, cocaine

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and over 2000 pills of some kind and a loaded handgun.

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We was receiving shipments of drugs three, four times a week.

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We all have to address the issue of duality in our lives.

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And you may not be going out to clubs on Saturday and then praising the Lord on Sunday.

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You may not be a man, a pastor preaching Holy Ghost fire.

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And then you got your little side drug hustle.

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But many seem to be divided on their commitment to the cause.

514
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The story of Saul and David is not so much a story of two men, but of two hearts.

515
00:31:55,720 --> 00:32:00,440
Saul's heart was focused on himself and how others viewed him.

516
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:01,440
Amen.

517
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:05,920
It was focused on comfort in the easy way, the uncommitted, the undecided, the unyielded

518
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,880
life.

519
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:12,960
This is a perfect picture of a divided heart, a divided loyalty.

520
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,200
That ain't gonna work.

521
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:20,680
David's heart was focused on serving and honoring God and others around him.

522
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:21,680
Amen.

523
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,840
The heart of the matter is the matter of the heart.

524
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:28,160
How do we extricate the absent champion?

525
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:29,680
You don't.

526
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,040
You don't extricate the man.

527
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:36,920
You extricate the heart and you replace it with a new one.

528
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:40,240
Some of y'all, that's why we come to conference.

529
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:41,920
We need a new heart.

530
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:48,200
I hope that you didn't just come here, amen, this week because you want to take some notes,

531
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:52,080
get the latest revelation from Joe Campbell.

532
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:53,080
Come on somebody.

533
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:54,440
Well, I'm here.

534
00:32:54,440 --> 00:33:02,200
We know you're getting all the info, but what you need is some transport.

535
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:03,280
Come on somebody.

536
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,040
We need our hearts to change.

537
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,000
I need God to touch me.

538
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,160
I need God to shake me up.

539
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,840
I need God to transform my life.

540
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:18,600
I need a new heart, a heart that's more in love with Jesus, more excited and more passionate

541
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,800
about the things of God than ever before.

542
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:27,640
I don't care how old we get, I'm more excited today than I've ever been in my life and that's

543
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:28,720
kind of hard to talk.

544
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:34,800
I may not move as quick as I used to, but I'm still stoked for Jesus.

545
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,280
Hallelujah.

546
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:44,320
Listen, Saul was replaced by David, but it wasn't so much David, but the heart that he

547
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:50,960
had, the kingdom, 1 Samuel 3, verse 14, shall not continue.

548
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,960
The Lord has sought a man after his heart.

549
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,280
Saul needed a new heart.

550
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:57,280
You need a new heart.

551
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:58,280
I need a new heart.

552
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:06,600
Ezekiel 36, verse 26, I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you.

553
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:11,960
I will take the heart of stone out of your flesh and give you a heart of flesh and I

554
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,720
will put my spirit within you and cause you to walk.

555
00:34:15,720 --> 00:34:18,760
I like that, to walk.

556
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:20,840
I walk like this.

557
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,800
Don't tell me I still stride like a gangster.

558
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:28,000
You know some old habits are hard to break.

559
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:32,440
I'm going to stride for Jesus as a gangster for Jesus.

560
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:33,440
Come on somebody.

561
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:39,720
See some of y'all, he's talking fleshly.

562
00:34:39,720 --> 00:34:42,720
Shut up.

563
00:34:42,720 --> 00:34:45,200
Come on.

564
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:49,080
Hebrews 8, verse 10, for this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel.

565
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:53,760
After those days saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their mind and write them in

566
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:58,320
their hearts and I will be to them a God and they shall be my people.

567
00:34:58,320 --> 00:34:59,320
Come on somebody.

568
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,800
See repentance, here is the key.

569
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,000
I'm closing.

570
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:11,760
See the problem with Saul is that he always made excuses for a spiritual absence.

571
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,640
Amen.

572
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:17,440
I know a lot of people, man, they're always making excuses.

573
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:22,120
You know every Sunday, every Wednesday night I get text messages.

574
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:28,800
Pastor, I won't make it tonight because my cat died.

575
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:36,720
Wife ran over the dog, probably should have.

576
00:35:36,720 --> 00:35:46,480
David on the other hand admitted when he was wrong, took responsibility for his mistakes

577
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:54,520
which is always a sign of deep integrity, which is a sign that he is very much present.

578
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,600
He's there, I'm ready.

579
00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,600
Ready to throw down.

580
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,800
You know, you always ready, bro?

581
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:06,120
In the world I was all ready for a good fight.

582
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,920
Didn't matter what it was, how big you were, how many there was, guns, knives, didn't

583
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:10,920
matter.

584
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:14,400
It's on baby, the more the merrier.

585
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:15,800
Right?

586
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,000
I wanted to make my presence felt.

587
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,080
I'm here.

588
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:24,680
You know, if I was at a party and the earth went in fires playing and nobody's dancing,

589
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:25,680
I'm going to go out there.

590
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,760
I remember one time my wife, baby let's go dance.

591
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,760
She said, I ain't going out there, nobody's out there.

592
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:33,240
I went out there by myself.

593
00:36:33,240 --> 00:36:34,240
Busting a move.

594
00:36:34,240 --> 00:36:37,840
I wasn't a Joe Cool Cholo like some of y'all were.

595
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,240
Amen.

596
00:36:40,240 --> 00:36:44,240
I'm the Mexican that looks like a white boy but dances like a black man.

597
00:36:44,240 --> 00:36:51,840
That ain't changed.

598
00:36:51,840 --> 00:37:01,020
He wasn't hiding from his responsibility, from his accountability, and from his dependability.

599
00:37:01,020 --> 00:37:07,240
When men fail by being absent, amen, neighborhoods fall, cities fall, nations fall.

600
00:37:07,240 --> 00:37:12,240
Nineveh was right there, man.

601
00:37:12,240 --> 00:37:16,520
Because the champion went the other way.

602
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,720
Amen.

603
00:37:18,720 --> 00:37:22,200
I like what Pastor Nate said the other night.

604
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,720
Santa Fe's going to plant churches again.

605
00:37:24,720 --> 00:37:26,520
I'm with you brother.

606
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:33,400
I'm down baby, like James Brown, all the way.

607
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:39,720
Currently out of Ogden, listen, we have I think close to 40 after our last conference,

608
00:37:39,720 --> 00:37:44,120
40 churches under the Ogden banner.

609
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:45,760
It is an amazing thing.

610
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:50,100
But I got to say to you that there was a time when I was kind of a little bit of an absent

611
00:37:50,100 --> 00:37:53,400
champion there.

612
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:57,040
Everybody was telling me, Rick, you got 25 churches plus, you need to be a conference.

613
00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:01,720
I was, no I don't.

614
00:38:01,720 --> 00:38:03,720
Oh.

615
00:38:03,720 --> 00:38:08,240
I'm touching some holy ground.

616
00:38:08,240 --> 00:38:11,280
And I remember, I said, no, that ain't going to happen.

617
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:12,280
I'm good.

618
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:13,280
I'm happy with what we're doing.

619
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,240
I like going to Prescott and making the announcements there.

620
00:38:16,240 --> 00:38:22,760
A little cheaper.

621
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:27,160
But one day I called Pastor Greg, not about this.

622
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:28,840
I'm going to call him, I had some problems.

623
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:29,840
You know, I got problems.

624
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:30,840
I don't know if you can tell.

625
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:31,840
I do.

626
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:33,040
I called Pastor Greg.

627
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,280
I called him and I said, yeah, this is going on.

628
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:40,720
And then he gave me a little advice and then he says, I said, okay, well thanks Pastor.

629
00:38:40,720 --> 00:38:44,440
He said, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold up, Rick.

630
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,960
We ain't done with this conversation.

631
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:48,440
And I said, yes, sir.

632
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:52,600
And he said, how many churches are out of Ogden?

633
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:53,600
And I knew it, man.

634
00:38:53,600 --> 00:39:02,860
The moment he said that, I said, my stinking good friend, Rich Cox, has been talking to

635
00:39:02,860 --> 00:39:06,040
Pastor Greg.

636
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:07,040
He's the one that snitched me.

637
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:15,240
He's the one that outed me.

638
00:39:15,240 --> 00:39:16,840
But I made a decision right there and then.

639
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:18,280
I said, yes, sir, we'll do it.

640
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:19,280
He goes, you think you can do it?

641
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:25,520
I'm like, you know, in the back of my head that there was a voice that said, you can't,

642
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:36,120
but somehow out of my mouth is a, yep, I'm an absent champion no more.

643
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:37,120
Amen.

644
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:42,240
We're going to fight this church and we're going to take it to the ends of the earth.

645
00:39:42,240 --> 00:39:43,240
Lord bless you.

646
00:39:43,240 --> 00:40:08,320
Thank you for listening to the PHA Potter's House Salmon Arm podcast.

647
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:13,000
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648
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:14,000
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649
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