Hi everyone and welcome back to another episode of the Real Talking Podcast with your hosts
Ash and JD. Now for the YouTube fucking viewers, you will notice, yeah, we had a good video
of us.
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Yeah. Yeah. So anyone that is actually watching, you'll see we're in different surroundings
today, which is my fault because I forgot to grab the equipment and take it over to
Birmingham with me. So we've compromised and we're at my house today. So we're having
a bit more of a relaxed one. We're on a cosy sofa.
At least more cosy.
Yeah, definitely.
Definitely, isn't it?
Yeah. And being as it's Friday night, we're going to have a cheeky little beer as well.
So cheers lads.
Struggling to open it. And that is a fucking drink and not me lads.
Also I am worried that this microphone is going to pick up my slurp in the beers.
Don't slurp too much then, anywho.
Alright.
It'll be alright. It'll be alright.
So we've had an interesting couple of weeks with all these refereeing decisions. And I
know what a lot of people would be thinking straight away. Oh, here we go. Jay is going
to moan about fucking, man, you know what, you'd get in fucking, you know, run down and
just playing shit. Well, it's not just about that. So I did see the stats the other day
where it's like six significant decisions against Man United with the VAR results where
I think it was four disallowed goals, one goal allowed that shouldn't have been allowed.
Since fucking Jurgen Klopp coming out with his comments like 18 months ago saying that,
you know, to get too many penalties, we've had, it's like fucking, I think three penalties
where Man City have had like 26, Liverpool have had 21 or whatever. So Jurgen Klopp initiated
a bit of a fucking stigma around, you know, these refs are too scared to do the right
thing. You know, it's not just about, you know, with any of this stuff that's been going
on recently anyway. You know, there was the Newcastle-North game, the first goal for them.
It looked like it should have, the ball went out of play. Now they haven't got the law
and technology to properly see where it has gone out. They haven't got the right angles
on the cameras to properly check it. Well, everyone that you're looking at looks out.
Now that ended up being goal given, which again, after that, I think it was Joel Linton
had pushed Gabrielle in the back as well, which again, that's the bout of blood that
should have been a foul as well. Yeah. And you also had Bruno Grimeres in the Alba, Virginia.
Yeah. But going back to that ball situation, I have seen these situations where it looks
like the ball has crossed the line from certain angles, but then when you look over the top
of the ball from a bird's eye view, it's still in play.
And the only actual footage that I saw was BN Sports, which is, it's still English presenters,
which they used to be on TV over here, but one of them, we won't say too much because
he got kicked off of UK TV. Anyone that's got a dodgy stick knows what he's on about.
Yeah. And so they did a computer generated image of the ball and then from above it showed
it in. Now you looked at it and the line did look a bit big, but you know, it's fucking
maths, it's geometry, whatever it is, it's in. But the main gripe about it was that it
was almost identical from the angles that they showed to when Marcus Rashford done a
similar situation the other week, ball was arguably in, but the camera angles that we
saw, it looked out exactly the same as it did the other day for Newcastle. And it resulted
in a goal and it got disallowed because the referees and the VAR team says there's not
enough evidence to prove that it's in. So the reasonable doubt goes towards it's a no
goal. And they said the same things about the Newcastle situation, but says reasonable
doubt it's in and so it's still a goal. So it's the lack of consistency. Well, the only
consistent thing about VR at the moment is that they are inconsistent.
I mean, yeah, I mean for everything that you just named wrong there, I mean going back
to the Tottenham Chelsea game on Monday, I think they got every decision right besides
one because that had about, I think it had about six VAR decisions. And I think there
was three goals that ended up being disallowed, which was a crazy game in itself. I see Tottenham
ended up being with nine men. But yeah, when I thought of that game, I thought VAR was
working. But then going back to some of the ones you just mentioned, it's consistently
inconsistent. The Marcus Fractured red card against Copenhagen.
Yeah.
I mean.
There's a lot of these challenges that look horrific when it's slowed down.
And also, so going back to the Chelsea Tottenham game when the centre back, I can't remember
his name, it's off my head now. Romero, that's the one. He followed through, he had that
follow through. You can physically see the follow through.
Yeah, you literally see the whole image though. He's off the ground. There's a gap between
his feet. He's stood to show you.
And that's another countryman, that's his country team. But with the Marcus Rashford
one, you know, for me, his arm was, his leg didn't go past his arm, if that makes sense.
So it didn't look like he was deliberate going for it. For me, it was just his arms and his
balance. You're seeing the players coming and he's trying to get his foot in front of
the players foot and just hasn't timed it right.
In that half a second, you're not aiming to land on someone's foot that's on the floor
in front of yours. It's literally, he's trying to spin around, shield the ball so he can
continue the attack.
I find it like, I don't know what the right word is, that everyone, like Paul Scholes
said it wasn't a red card. I always thought it was just a yellow card. I mean, you can
slow any tackle down, he looked early no matter what.
Yeah, yeah.
I went hard, he said he wasn't a red card. The only person who said he was a red card
was Robbie Savage. I mean, how is this guy's Italian? Like some of the tackles he's saying,
and he's saying it's a red card. I think it's all ironic now, his son's left man knew
that's a red card.
Yeah, this makes me laugh with a lot of the ex-footballers that are pundits now. When
they grew up and played the game during a time when it was so physical, violent, that
they fought, you know, Cantona, Floyd kicking a fucking, one of the fans in the crowd and
that. And it was a norm. And you have the fucking, the cheek of Gary Neville to come
out and say, look, it's a disgrace, fucking this and that, X, Y and Z. So, you was a
part of that culture originally. You know, even Roy Keane had a stupid one the other
week, we've saying, you know, that's not acceptable. He was voicing in the tunnel with fucking
Vieira. So to come out with stuff like that, I get it, the game's changed, but they can't
make out that they were all saints.
I will say, at the start, Bruno Fernandes, anyone that listens to his podcast knows,
I think he's one of the most overriding players ever. I think he's the most overriding player
in the prep. How many times I've seen his skis have tried like a diag and it's never
come off. And then like he chose a 10 yard pass and he goes behind the player, then he's
moaning like that's the player's foot. His arms up in the air too much. I mean, for me,
like, no one wants to be moaned at in life in general. And like, you don't want to be
moaned at when you've done something wrong. Cause you're not, no one's purposely trying
to do stuff wrong. You know, but he's, you know, he's for me, I think Roy Keane was right,
but then in terms of saying he's not captain, he's not leader, but we're going back to my
new, I don't think there is anyone there now. Like that consistently gets in the team.
So yeah, excuse any background noise that the dogs, they're chewing on his chew and
he starts to start choking on it. He's all rolled up.
But yeah, I don't know. I don't, I don't see anyone in the style and level that's, that's
guaranteed a price. I think the goalkeeper, but obviously he's gone African cup of nation.
And also how, how much, like Manu at the moment, how much of a shit show is that? Because it
looks like they're going to re-sign David de Gaia.
No, so he's not going to re-sign. He's not, he's not, he's not re-signing for when he
goes to England. He came back to England because he's been sorting outside in his house. He
was watching some of the women's teams. I know he's meeting up with everyone. Yeah.
Is when Anana goes to the African cup nations? No, they're not going to sign him. So who's
the guy for? We've got B in da, he's our number two choice, which Ten Hogg tried to get, I
don't know, four or five years ago for Ajax. So he scouted him for longer. He knows him.
Can I just say something? Sorry, Jay. It's all right.
You're Celine, you're PSV, no, sorry, you're Ajax. So Manu pulled a 45 million bid in for
Anthony and I reckon that like the people that deal was detecting dollars. Like fuck
these. 85 million you can have him. He's taking.
The issue with that, if they would have come in at the beginning of the transfer window,
they would have got him for around 40 to 50 million euros. But literally look, within
three, four weeks after they already sold half their squad, they put the foot down and
says we're not selling any more players now. But then Ten Hogg was persistent. He wanted
his man. So that says, well, if you want him, you've got to pack. I mean, as a wing guy,
I don't know. I don't know what he brings to Manu. I mean, he brings that little pirouette
thing that. So the first season was better than what he's been doing at the moment. Is
this not his first season? No, this is his second season. Fuck you. So Shiroot, sorry,
we've just got a dog that's been a noise. He's finished his treat now, so he's he's
one of the ones. So yeah, he started this season. He had a good preseason. He had the
first couple of games, which was OK. Not not great, not good, but he was OK. And then obviously
there was the allegations. Oh, yeah. So he missed a month of that. That's it. And so
it's trying to find his feet again now. You know, I did say I didn't want to turn into
a Manu. I was your friend. But, you know, you're the one that wanted to talk about him.
So I want to do it. No, I just obviously because I think like Manu is like every time I open
like a football up, it's just Manu, Manu. I mean, it's I don't know a team that spends
so much money and then says we don't play attacking football. We've not made it. Look,
well, yeah, it's it's it's a hard job for Ten Hogg in general because he's dealing with
literally now he's got another Alex Ferguson player back in the team as Johnny Evans. He's
got Mourinho players, Van Holt players, Solskjaer players. You know, so that's four to five
different managers worth of players and he's trying to make it work. I did say to you,
I think I said it to you that once Rashford gets his contract, he's going to go to Schilliget.
Yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, that's all I mean, I think that's all people see Manu as a payday.
Yeah, yeah. Payday, easy ride, four yards, get like Varran. Yeah. I mean, I mean, when
Johnny Evans is getting ahead of you, there's a problem, mate. Yeah, Varran's got his injury
issues and there's a bit of a conspiracy going around now that it's Ten Hogg. So obviously,
he ended up forcing Ronaldo out. I mean, Sancho's fucking away with the fairies, playing fucking
FIFA at home on £374,000 a week. And Varran and Casemiro are both on around £300,000
a week as well. So Casemiro, Troy's, I just, I just think he's having a bit of bad form.
Yeah, he's. The one thing that, sorry John, £375,000 a week. If you got paid £375,000
a year to play football, you'd run your fucking, you just, you just least try any. Yeah, yeah.
We've said it enough times, you know, it wouldn't take much more of a salary that we already
take home for us to be fucking fantastic at football. You know, if, you know, if we was
earning enough playing football to pay the bills that we already do, then it would be
training all the time, playing, fucking being as good as possible. Well, yeah, Sancho's
situation, we don't exactly know everything that's gone on, but that derives from his
tweets after the comments of Ten Hag saying that he didn't put him in the day squad because
he felt that he didn't train hard enough. So Sancho was like, well, no, I put my effort
in all the time training. It's not my problem that the manager's got favourites basically,
which again, it's understandable when you've got the logs of Anthony who wasn't playing
well getting picked every game, Rashford not informed getting picked every game. So it's
understandable, but at the end of the day, getting paid to play. It should be something
in the contracts that if you're doing stuff like that, you shouldn't be allowed to get
your full wage, especially fucking 374 grand a week to be forced out of the first team
made to play with the youth squad. Well, trying not even play. You know, he's been exiled
from the dressing room. He's not allowed to go on meals with them or anything. It's all,
he's just out. I mean, you think of that outlay from Manu, 75 million he was to buy him, 375
grand a week. That's all including bonuses. He must have bought a good, I mean, I would
just guess to my own, maybe 5 million bonuses a year. Well, a sign on bonus, you know, you
don't get your sign on bonus like upfront. It gets, yeah, it's divved up. I mean, did
you see the Ben Foster one when he was on about his bonuses when he was on West Brom?
And so it's like, so it's 40 grand a week. Yeah. But if you played, basically it worked
out. It was something like if he plays two games, clean sheets and he ended up being
like 80 grand a week or something. And then at the end of the season, you get, you get
your, he had a million pound loyalty bonus. Yeah. Oh, fucking hell. Can you imagine what
these Manu players are getting? He was the one who was mentioned that some of these players
are clearing like 10 million pound a year bonuses. Yeah. Sure. Who was he? Yeah. I like
seeing sort that he brings to it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cause again, you know, I'll bring up
Mark Goldbridge again. He does the, the fast cast and stuff with him and, you know, just
needs to get you on that. Right. Fucking well. So he done a podcast with, I don't know who
it was to be honest now, but I only listened to it this morning. It came out yesterday
and they weren't really talking about football. It was all about his personal life and that
log. And it was a good fucking listen. You know, everyone sees this person that he is,
his life reactions and, uh, his witness and that, and then to, to see the, the stuff he's
grabbing up, you know, ex-place, ex-banker and whatever, and this and that, you know,
it's a, it's, it's interesting to see the, the other side of him. Um, but yeah. Uh, so
the stuff that he does with Ben anyway, log it's, it's quite eye opening to see the stuff
like that when they're talking about wages and everything. Um, plus just in general,
you know, he's a nice bloke and he'd been foster, uh, you know, he, he's obviously done
well enough as for a goalkeeper. Um, and you know, you think apart from when he was at
humanity, which he was never first choice keeper, um, he's only adds the major block,
the main spousal with Birmingham city, West Brom and that. Yeah. So, uh, yeah, he's not
enough money playing for them clubs. So you think, sorry, I'm just looking at the dog.
He's going to knock the fucking camera in a minute. If he does have some weird editing
point, it's just because of these donuts. Um, so yeah, you think of all the other goalkeepers
and that, that life of the, the top earning clubs. I mean, the higher over the years,
I think he was on 324 grand a week on his last contract. That was four of your contract
was four years. Yeah. Uh, you know, Kepa and all that fucking, uh, Chelsea's goalkeepers
around Madrid and this and that. I always think we go keep because you think hard, they
don't get paid as much as a strike or whatever, but they can, they've got the longevity where
that can still be a prime. I mean, I've seen, yeah. And it was like 40. He was older than
that. And I was 44 or something. You know, David James was 42 and he retired as well.
So you get the longevity. So you get your money's worth there as well. Yeah. Yeah. But
yeah. Uh, they're going back to VR, the IR. So as I say, it wasn't just to have a rant
about manualities, lack of decisions. Uh, you know, as we were saying, the Tottenham,
Romero's dirty challenge and this and that, and, um, potential fucking red card for Liverpool
last night that wasn't given, it was a yellow card. Uh, there's a major difference between
the premier league referee and then the European competitions as well. You know, there, there
are a bit more lenient and I don't know, just a bit more common sense when it comes to the
European referees. Uh, whereas it's frustrating because the premier league, it's meant to
be the best league in the world. And apart from the, the actual, um, well, the competitiveness
of it where, you know, Brighton, who would have thought fucking six, seven years ago
that Brighton would be a dominant force. Yeah. Just being acts near, uh, Europe. Well, I
actually dropped off. Yeah. I think they're like, they're pretty much really, yeah. Definitely
the relegation, but I mean, that would be fucking historic if I go down. Yeah. Yeah.
Um, do you remember when Bruce Adorman had that smell where I was like, just, just the
body of relegation. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it happens to any, I mean, Chelsea, uh, I
think it was like half a knife and it's like 15 two seasons ago as well. Uh, like I think
last season was it though? I mean, cause obviously they're not in any European competitions. So
they were out on the top eight last season. They're still not having a good season. Also,
so that's the thing you spend a billion, a billion pound on players. 12 months as well
though. And not one striker. And you've got Lukaku banging for Roma. Fucking hell. Well
obviously the season before he was banging him in front of my lap. You know, it's fucking
horrendous. The thing is, I suppose there is a lack of quality strike cause at the moment,
obviously Harry Kane is doing in the Bundesliga. Yeah. But mate, I know that I could go to
fucking Bayern Munich and play at least 10 goals in the season. It's like playing for
Man City. You're going to get 10 tapings. I think, I think everyone that plays some
kind of former football, if they was Man City up front, played for Man City up front, you'd
back yourself to get 10 goals over the course of season. So that's like Premier League,
Champions League, FA Cup and League Cup. So you've got games in there. You've got games.
I would back myself to score 10 goals for Man City. If I'm trying in every day with
Man City, I'm scoring. Yeah. Cause obviously you're going to be fit enough to be able to
get into the match that is fine. But even off the bench, I'd still reckon I'd be able
to do it. I'd be like, fuck you. Come on Pep. Fuck you. Or two shall, you know, from Bayern.
Put me on for 10 minutes. Just fucking just put the ball in the back. Yeah. Phone it up.
I'll finish it off. Yeah. I'll stay in that box. Just make sure I'm onside. Tell the lads
to fucking whip it in. And I'm fucking banging them in. Also, I want to, and I was a goalkeeper.
A shout out to Doku for Man City because he's the only winger with flair that we don't see
anymore. They're all just drug-grabbing stripewear. They're just calling pass. No one wants to
like, there's just nothing there. There's no, you remember, I remember prime. No, I
think we, Naby was, we just had so many great players growing up. Like flair players. We
were spoiled. I mean, I know I was spoiled as a Man United fan anyway. That's why it's
harder the last 10 years of playing shit. So, you know, I have to try and take myself
out of it and think, well, hang on. I had a good spell 20 years or so of fucking, you
know, great results. But yeah, we grew up with the Beckhams as well. Yeah. Ronaldo and
you know, both Ronaldo's. Literally just flair messy. Yeah. Just, everyone just had a bit
of flair. Like Naima. I mean, I've spoken about him being out right. But even the likes
of Joe Cole as well though. He had a good couple of seasons. Fucking amazing. If it
was to think about it, I mean, to ram that player for QPR, I mean, he was unreal. I mean,
he was just unreal. I mean, he was just made for the streets. He wasn't even just the premier
league as well. Nah, he was the championship level. Yeah. Championship was loads of them.
You know, fucking, uh, well, Kevin Phillips was he? Fucking, uh, that played for Blues.
Or the striker. Yeah. I remember him fucking just being fantastic. You know, James Bieter
on the righty, you know, unfortunately didn't get a good run. Fucking, but. Just the flair.
Just like Suarez had it. Yeah. Storage even added like that. Yeah. You know, that, that
just that little bit as well. Fuck you. I mean, he was just pious. I mean, but it was
just the matter of the fucking being able to take players on. Oh, it was all, it was
all, uh, you know, I just feel like it's, I just feel, I mean, I'm real. I mean, we'll
go here. I mean, once you get going, there's the list, but then when you think now, when
you're thinking out what player look, wingers, let's stick to wingers or attacking, you know,
attacking wingers, attacking wide men. There's no one that really, you know, get you on you
see and he's watched him and he, I mean, it looks unreal. I mean, it looks, it looks the
pilot. It's that old school, you know, you get, you know, you, you show a bit, you know,
but again, it's, it's playing in the confident team of Man City, knowing that you've got
a fucking Harland in the box that you can just back the ball. That's most likely going
to get on the end of the fucking school. Well, that's what would score 10 goals for me. So,
but now we'll don't watch enough of a games to be able to comment on too many, but you
know, religiously, as much as I don't want to do fucking at the moment, I do watch every,
you know, it's a game and I've been saying it for fucking pretty much all of this season
because of the poor form of Rashford gone, that Joe needs to play. And the last couple
of games that he has played the fair enough, he's still young. He's still learning, but
he just reminds me of when gigs was fucking young as well, always exciting. You know,
something's going to happen. Not always. It does fucking, you know, he might misplace
a pass or not miss control. He, but he just gets it and he goes for the defender. He attacks
them and then he, you know, he'll do a little fucking jockey jam and whip the ball. He's
not always got the way Rashford and Anthony are. He's happy to throw a crossing. And that's
why I did log the first 40 minutes of the fucking Copenhagen game because Garnacho was
on the left. Rash was on the roads and Rashford actually looked disciplined in that role at
that point. Yeah. Well, we got red card because he was tracked back. Yeah. He was tracking
back. He looked, so yeah, he was defending and he wasn't trying to cut in and have a
shot. He was actually, you know, throwing the ball in, doing a nice little cross. It's
cause he's on the road side, isn't it? And obviously this is a problem with modern football.
The inverted wingers, you're right footed, playing the right wing, not on the left. Fucking,
I don't know. I mean, like I get what you're saying. When you think of the main thing,
then if you're fucking inverted, you're more enticed to come in on your strong foot and
have the shot. Unless you dropped back a little bit further and then you're crossing it. Yeah.
Also a flare player has just come to mind. Moussa Dembede top number one absolute beast.
But yeah, I think it's one of those and he's sometimes you've got those players that you
know, they're going to do it. The Robbins, the sellers, you just can't stop them. But
then yeah, I don't understand what you're saying. No, like these inverted, you know,
you know, which way they're going to go. Yeah. So that's why the first couple of months when
Anthony wasn't, you know, that was why he had a good little span of form because the
rest of the league didn't know he started a play. Once the clocks were gone, let's fucking
keep him out to the corner flag. Let's stop him from coming in and shooting on his left.
That was when he's dipped. And that's the frustrating thing about these modern day footballers
is that he's only left footed. Why doesn't he fucking stay back or even at home with
a fucking bag of balls himself and just use his right foot? Just practice, practice, practice.
I fucking did it as I obviously fucking we've spoken about it for, I was a goalkeeper and
I did it with my left foot because I was predominantly right footed. And I remember just like just
shooting at the goal and fucking little free kicks and whatever. I ended up being better
for a little period of time with my left foot than I was with my right. Well, it's like
Gael Kishi, Gael Kishi, they used to play for Arsenal and fans of the league. He was
naturally right footed but learned his left. But then you've got people like Robby that
we just mentioned that was so left footed, he was unreal but he was so good with it.
Because he only needed his left. Yeah, he had the tricks and the skills. He had the
pace and he had. And the football intelligence as well. He was able to take on the players,
get around, get in, do this and do that. And it didn't matter that he just had his left
foot. Anthony, he's just not good enough. He's not 90 million good enough. I really
think you need to go on this Mark Goberidge podcast. Just get you in there. Yeah, I'd
have to go on there. You'll have to ask, Troy, my 10 views on YouTube. Yeah, yeah. Well,
one of them had 32, mate. Save my next study next time for you. Yeah, but yeah, it's fucking.
So anyway, the refs, the fucking. It's like they're all little best mates and the two
up their own arses to admit that they've made a mistake where they just need to own up.
You know, it's a lack of consistency. I'd get it if there was fucking. Again, with the
United Kingdom of the North, it was like, oh no, we've already given two handballs.
We can't give another one. Yeah. No, it doesn't matter if there's fucking three or 10 handballs.
If there are penalties, there are penalties. You know, it shouldn't matter how many there
is. Don't start changing the rules in the middle of the game. Well, they can't do that.
You've got to, you got to follow the fucking rules. And it's frustrating as a fan of football
in general, because you just don't know from game to game what performance you're going
to get. You know, again, with the, the, the mix up with the fucking the VAR, you know,
it'd be ref in the game, not Michael Oliver. It'll be fucking ref in the game the one day
and then on the Sunday, he'll be fucking in the VAR and he'll still contradict himself
the day after being in the pitch and then being in the room. So no, you should know
your sort of ref and you can't change it. You get the same. You've got the rule book.
You've got to follow it to that now. And yeah, it stems back again to fucking, you slow any
of these tackles down, they're gonna look a hundred times worse. Yeah. I feel like VAR
is still, obviously it's not, it's complete form yet. And a lot of people don't like it.
I think you like if you get the rub of the green, let's just say like, if you get the
...
No one feels like the gunner at the moment.
Nah, but you know, when you've got a goal against you and then it gets chalked rough
side, it feels like a win there.
That's, that's one of the worst things about it though, is because that magic has gone
fucking like a late minute goal and this and that. And you're up, not that we're fucking
in the pubs these days, you're up off your seat and you're throwing your hands, you're
fucking chasing. Yes, come on. All that. And then you're waiting for fucking four minutes
to say that Harry Maguire is offside. So no fucking... That frustrated me the other day
because Harry Maguire, goal scoring wise was offside, but the defender's arm was past
Harry Maguire. So why is it for us? It's fucking the goal scoring position. But for anyone
else, if the defender's arm is playing them online.
Normally it's up to the shirt line. So if they're wearing a short sleeve, I'm sure that's
where the line is drawn.
You know, again, I've seen all the contradictions, you know, with Man City players in front of
the goalkeeper in an offside position and the goals stood and fucking this and that.
And it's like, it wouldn't be as bad if it was just consistent. But surely they should
be able to look, if they're going to take four or five minutes to review the fucking
offside, just go back and say, Jeff, Rod, the other week, this was not given as offside.
This is pretty much the same. So let's give this one as not offside as well. You know,
it's just, it's ridiculous. You know, yeah, I could keep going on and on for hours, but
we don't want to, but the PGM, MOL, it's too much of a mouthful anyway, isn't it? But they
need to just fucking get a grip, start sorting out what they need to do. Just, just regulate
it properly. And it would help if they actually put it over the fucking tannoy or at least
on the TV, what they're talking to each other about. So we all know they won't do that because
then they can't hold you on the mistakes. Yeah. And I mean, it's, it's the most sense
that I've seen of a Jamie Carragher with his Twitter the last couple of days, you know,
you watch him on the fucking the analysis after a game and he just chats shit, but he's
actually been shouting out about the fucking the poor referee and that lately. So it's
nice to see he does know a thing or two about football and he's not just Liverpool bias
for a challenge. So, uh, yeah, it's, um, it's just frustrating being a football fan these
days, but hopefully, hopefully it gets better. I mean, it's not going to happen this season,
but the need to start sorting something out from next season. No. God knows what we're
going to be looking in a few years time. It, the thing that's supposed to stop the drama
and controversy is just making the controversy now. Yeah. Yeah. I remember when it was first
going to be a thing and the main fucking issue was people were saying, look, oh, you know,
we're not going to be able to have the conversations, not necessarily arguments, but you know, what
was almost an argument in the public role of a fan's and that about fucking natural
or whatever. And yeah, we've lost those sorts of debates, you know, pub talk and that to
just moaning about the referee and fucking all this shit. So yeah, it's, it's not good
enough. You know, aside the premier leagues meant to be the best league in the world.
And at the moment it's not nowhere near it. Yeah. Uh, just to talk about the football,
uh, new castle Dortmund and the champions league, I've seen a ban out that says, uh,
it was from the new castle part says change from 20 quid. Thank you. So I brush your dorm
and tickets to watch new cast and the champions league are less than 20 pounds. Now it'd be
hard to phone a championship game for less than 20 pounds. Well, yeah, it's, it's, it's
magic. You mentioned that I was actually thinking about it on the drive this morning, uh, over
to work just in general. Uh, so we've all trafficked 76,000, uh, seat capacity. Now,
uh, you can't get a ticket for less than 50 pound, but I'll base the map on the edge as
50 pound per ticket. So just being at 75,000 capacity, you're looking at over three and
a half million per game and they're the lower, lower price. Everyone was, you think you've
got your fucking executive box. Yeah. A lot, two, three grand per box and you grow day
games. Yeah. Any champions league game. Yeah. Any like Liverpool, Man City game. Yeah. It's
not 50 pounds. No, I mean, I don't go to old traffic, old traffic as much as I'd love to,
but it used to be a waiting list. To be fair, it's only been log pre-season and, uh, charity
games that I've been to as of late. Um, you know, the last one that I went to was, uh,
against biome Munich. It was the, uh, anniversary game of the triple winning, uh, lot teams.
Um, you know, David Beckham was there. Great guy. Just as he come on, look, fucking getting
announced and that the whole fucking stadium, you know, you get chills for thinking about
it again. Now, every time he was on the ball, everyone fucking shouting and cheering. He
still got it as well. Fucking hell. Yeah. Yeah. You know, it's a, that, that's what
football is about though. The fucking, the atmosphere and everything. I hate having to
moan about the referee and all this and that, but, um, you know, something needs to be done.
They need to fucking get the, get the arses into gear and fucking sort it out. Cause it's
ruining the sport. You know, you don't have these issues in the other leagues, you know,
the league or fucking anything like that. Oh, sorry. Go on. No, no. I was just going
to say it's just the premier league that all these dramas are in. I will say this though.
I wish the referees, well, the league took a stand like you see our rugby rugby players
speak to the referees, this speak to them normal than I was shouting. So I feel like
when, when the players take away the shoutiness that, you know, everyone knows what's at stake
and just have some calmness. I think that will help the referees just keep it clear
in mind rather than juggling like this player shout at me, this player's giving me grief.
I'm trying to hear what they're saying. Also, you know, you know, you've got the many things
going through your head and once you don't need 20 people shout out. Yeah. I think they
want to try and do that. It's only the captain that's allowed to speak to them. Yeah. No.
Um, but you know, this is why baffles me. Why the, uh, PGMOL are making such a meal
of it because rugby's had it in for as long as I've fucking known about, you know, anytime
I don't know, probably 15 years or so that I have seen since we've been able to go to
pubs and drink and that, and it's almost same rugby on the TV. It's been marked up and essentially
VAR. Isn't it? You know, it's long. There's never been any issues. No, it doesn't. I never
seem to be contrasted. No, they'll have the word log. Yeah. Well, I think this happened.
No, hang on. This happened. Yeah. Okay. You know, number 16 has fucking done whatever,
you know, sending fucking a card or telling him to fucking calm down or whatever. And
it's just, it just, it just blows, you know, and the clock stops. It fucking it's, it's,
it's all run how it should be. Yeah. You know, fucking again with the, you know, it's kind
of the, you know, it's fucking dramas. It was like, I don't know, 13 minutes added on
in the fucking first half and this and that. Yeah. We're saying the Chelsea Tottenham game.
I'm sure that was 12, 12 minutes. It's, it's, you know, no fair enough. Yeah. It's good
to stop wasting any. Yeah. There's a suffrage for a reason in yes. And cause I know one
of the incidents, it was because there was a medical emergency. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We've
someone in the crowd. So I get it with that, but now surely it's just easier for the ref
to go pause on his fucking watch and then just carry on that way. But yeah, I could
talk about it all day long, but I'm not gonna. Um, so yeah, PGM, LL, you know, there's too
many letters. I can't even, it's not LGBTQ fucking Sam Smith. Shit. Um, you might do
a better job than fucking Michael Oliver and that anyway. And you never know who was telling
to be boots. Um, just blend in with the beach one night. But yeah, we'll leave it. So I'd
buy that for now. Yeah. Wait for more fucking drums to come out. And then I'm sure all
fucking brands about it again in a couple of weeks, no doubt. Um, so we've got, again,
another couple of emails and, uh, as always, we do always appreciate it. Yeah. Uh, the
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I've never, obviously listen to these podcasts. Well, starting doing a podcast. I've started
listening to podcasts and it's been a few that I've really looked, but I've never shared
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listen, which we know there's a lot of you out there anyway. We'd appreciate it very
much. Um, so yeah, anyway, we've got an email. Uh, so Carl's emails back in, um, so yes,
he had his question last week about like even the true to walk in while you're having a
shit. Yes. Yeah. So he had that one. Um, so we wanted to know what made you think of that
one. Yeah, he's definitely shit it. Well, so he says, uh, no reason behind the poop
question. I just heard it on another podcast. Sorry. We talked fucking around. Do not knock
that camera. Oh God. This is the problem with doing it at Mard. These two valve is tiny.
He doesn't much any, but I give him a good brush again as well. Sorry, people at home.
So, uh, he's got a question for us. If you could die once, but instantly come back with
no repercussion, what would you do? So I'm guessing he's at this on another podcast as
well then. Um, well, that's a good question. Uh, so I suppose fucking that means I'll give
you was going to fucking look, do a suicide bomb or something. You're not going to get
fucking any issues from it coming back. So you basically get, you get an extra life basically
and so you can do anything for an extra life. Oh, I suppose it would just be if you really
fucking wanted to end someone, you'd just like grab them, fuck yourselves off the building
or a bridge or whatever. So we saw it though. It could be anything. You could just be, if
well, if you could die once, but instantly come back, you're not going to want to die
of cancer. And then you know what I would love to do? Just be in space and then just
flow, just see what it feels. Yeah. So just flow off in that. But yeah, so just flow as
long as you can. I keep the hammer down, but obviously you're going to, you're going to
do it. I wouldn't want to, I wouldn't want to lose oxygen. No, but you're going to die
anyway. Yeah. If you know you coming back, you're not going to be as bothered about suffocating.
I would like to get slingshot as far as the universe as it could. So no, so no man has
ever been that far out and just literally just see, just see what happens. Yeah. That's,
that's my thing. I think I would love to get slingshot across the universe as quick as
possible and just let me flow into my marks. So you're doing that. I'd fucking get another
submarine on the go. So that's really, really down to the Titanic. And he got down to the
Titanic. Yeah. Trying to find the other bodies down there if they're not already fish food
any. So yeah, you're looking for space. I'd look for the ocean. I'd love to see, like
obviously see stuff that no mankind has never seen before. That, that I think that'd be
like a really use, a good use of an extra life. Well, I did see some pictures the other
day of whatever new telescope there is that's out in space. And it's, so there was the contrast
of whatever old, no, it used to be the Hubble. No, yeah. It used to be, yeah. Cause they've
done that new one, didn't they? Yeah. So you could see all the galaxies. Yeah. There was
the old one. I think the old one was called the Hubble telescope. I think that was the
old one. The new ones could sunk house. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, the old one, it
took clock six years to piece all the pictures together. And this new one, it was like four
hours and it was all together. And it was, you can see more galaxies in the picture.
Did you see the documentary on it on Netflix? I've not watched any documentary. No. Yeah.
There was one about getting up in space because if something went wrong, I think that it was
seven billion that telescope was. So if something didn't happen, it just flew away in space.
Obviously just lost seven billion. Yeah. But yeah, it's so the plan for this new telescope
anyway, look, it's going to map out what it can visibly see anyway and take pictures of
it's going to look, do a bit of a map of the universe essentially. So interesting to see
that. No, that'd be good. But yeah, if you're getting slingshotted out, you're going to
be able to not see as clear as the telescope or, you know, say, fuck you. Little pictures
as well. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm happy that I'm happy that I'm such a, I think what if
the map wasn't done properly, you got fucking towards the sun, even the sun or, you know,
the red spot on Jupiter or something. You know, shit, you know, it would be great. You
know, if the scene of black hole and I'll be like, just put me, I interstellar shit
out of that. So I was thinking this the other day, so black holes, they're just, well, again,
from what we apparently know from the maps that's done, it's all the lights, it's a massive
gravitational field and all the lights and anything that's near it just gets sucked in.
Yeah. Well, we don't actually know what's on the other side. That's what I'm saying.
So what's on the other side? Because again, apparently white holes are a thing where it's
light that's coming out. So who's to say that that's just not the other side of the black
hole? Because if it's going in, what's happening to it? Well, yes, it's been sucked in and
this and that, but fucking something's going to happen with it. Because if it's getting
in, is it making an object? Is it eventually going to become a sun or is it just coming
out the other side as a white hole and shooting it all out?
I mean, that's a question I can't answer, mate. I mean, I'd love to. Yeah. I mean,
this is the only thing that goes through my head when I haven't got all my fucking podcasts
or music on and that shit. Just sling me through one. That's what that's what I do myself.
Carl, thank you for your email. Always been.
Yeah. It's just going on. Yeah. Yeah. Carl. Yeah. I appreciate it, mate. Fuck you. What
would you do, Carl? If you've got an answer for it? Apart from, I don't know, get fucking
twatted while having an issue because it's a home invite or something. Yeah. Well, then
we've got a little fire at Kirsty as well. Again, appreciate the real talk, guys. Thanks
a lot. So this is an interesting question. So what's the worst thing that's happened
to you on a dice?
I mean, do you want to go first? Yeah. Yeah, you go first, mate. Yeah. So because normally
we don't read the emails before and all, but I had a quick glance at these. So I'm glad
that we did actually because fuck you. I was racking my brain for five minutes while setting
up and in general, I've never really had any bad dates. I had some, you know, you general,
you go for a bite to eat or a sin or a night, you have a drink and fucking, you know, it's
not always going to work out when doing that. But it did pop in my head then. Fucking I
remember I don't know. I don't know if it was like plenty official or something that
I was on, but started chatting to this girl anyway. And I was like, yeah, let's go out.
Let's do something then. And I wanted to go for a drink or a bite to eat or whatever.
Didn't want to do none of it. She's like, let's go to the park. I thought the park,
the bare moon. I'm like fucking 24 or something. So go into the park. I'm thinking what you
want to buy. You'll be going to jail after the park, mate. No, she was around the same
age as us. She wanted to go feed the ducks. Sutton Park. I was like, all right, it's different.
I've done it. So I've rocked up. Fucking it was near where she lived. So I don't know
if it might have been just as a cautious thing in case. I don't know. I was going to fucking
kidnap her or something. Yeah. So I've rocked up. We've got a loaf of bread and that log,
even though you're not meant to feed the ducks bread. But it was before that was really a
public announcement. And it was just so awkward. What made it awkward though? It was just awkward.
There's nothing there. Yeah. I was trying to initiate all the conversations. Yeah. I
think they're the worst ones anyway. It looks like you're over trying. You're not being
authentic. Well, she didn't even bring her own loaf of bread. She wanted to feed the
ducks and she didn't bring nothing to feed the ducks. If I didn't bring none, what would
have happened? I could have just looked at the ducks. Looked at the ducks. Yeah. Fuck
you. You know, it was like, yeah. So it was like a 15 minute walk. I'm trying to have
a chat and that. And I was getting next to nothing back out. And yeah, we stood there
at this little bridge bit. I was just fucking, like it got to the point, because you know,
at first you're breaking up little bits of bread and you're chucking them and that. I
got like halfway through the loaf. I'm like, I've fucking had enough of this. So I ended
up just chucking full slices and letting the ducks just fight over them and just grab little
bits off and that. And I just really, I just lost interest. And it turned out she fucking
was the daughter of my dad's mates. It was his boss, his boss's daughter. So I didn't
notice at first and weren't until a couple of days later, my dad's mates rang me. It
was all, oh yeah, you went on a date with fucking such and such. I was all, yeah, how
did you know? Because I hadn't told him. It's not like I speak to my dad's mates all the
time. But yeah, he's all, oh yeah, fuck you. I don't know why, but the boss fucking ended
up speaking to him, put two and two together that it was me. Fucking she had an amazing
time and that. I thought I had literally.
He had the worst time she had ever thought.
I didn't even text her anything again afterwards. Because I just knew it weren't going to go
anywhere because it was fucking, I wasted a loaf of bread and I couldn't get out there
quick enough. And yeah, she enjoyed it and fucking, apparently she weren't happy that
I fucking, again, this was a week or so later. She wasn't happy that I hadn't been in touch.
And I remember just laughing on the phone with my dad's mate. I fucking told him everything.
I was like, got no interest. Would have been okay if she'd fucking spoke back and had a
fucking conversation, but it was just all hands on it, literally. God. But yeah. So
that, that'd be fucking more one really. Yeah. Nothing else comes to mind. They're probably
years more than that really, but yeah, that was definitely the fucking worst one anyway.
I mean, for me, I'm trying to say, like you said, it's hard to think like, I mean, for
me it was so, so long ago as well. I mean, we're talking about coming up to 12 years
now. Well, yeah. Cause I've been with more misses for about 10 years and it was a different,
it was different. All you had to do is just go, you know, go to the poor boy. Well, it
was last week or the week before where it was, you know, it was, I don't know if it
was easier, but it was easier and harder on the one sense because it was most of the time
it was, we'd be out and about. Yeah. And it's thought, you know, so my missus was working
behind the bar. I was seeing her pretty much every day because of being at the pub. And
then with yours, it was like a part of the friend group that was always out with us back
when we was drinking early days and that old. So, you know, it was fucking, I know for me
the worst day I had, and it was kind of my own fault. It was the worst day. So I was
texting, I was texting a few girls at the same time. And yeah, I'll put it out there
and Ash has never been a player. Well, would you hate this story? So, so we ended up, you
know, between his money there. Yeah. I ended up watching her three days in a row for three
different girls. And I hated the in between us. I fucking hated it. I've never, I've never
thought it was good. So what it was just at that time, because we still have it now when
there's nothing good to watch on the cinemas. And I don't think there was anything else
on at the time either. I had the TV show. I mean, never a massive fan of it. We were
watching it. Really? I just, I just didn't get it. I didn't get the hype. So watching
it for the third time in the third day, I even remember the bouncer, because I used
to go to the cinema downstairs. We used to have like a little barbie. I remember the
third day, the bouncer seen me every day. And on the third day, shook his head and laughed
at me. And the girl I was with said, do you know him? And I was like, yeah, kind of. Because
I didn't want to go, nah, it's because of the third time in a row. But yeah, yeah. I
mean, I mean, it was expensive. I remember that. Like that was years ago. Any, it's even
worse now. Fucking price or not? Taxis, cinemas, snacks, drinks, you know, whatever you go
after and all that. Yeah. You know, yeah, that, that, that was more probably worse when
I was probably from my own doing now, because said, I just want to, I remember, I remember
just watching it like stumped, like tired from the two nights before. And I didn't want
to cancel because you know what you're right. You've been for a good time. So yeah, I mean,
and this would have been the Freud I know, because I'm pretty sure this would have been
was the Freud I know it once. I'm more optimistic and he wasn't a scorn on it. But yeah, I think
that was the worst one. That was from my own doing. But that was a great question actually.
Yeah. You got to be thinking, but it just, when it comes to dining, you got to understand,
me and guys not in this game, the dining going for a few years. Well, no, no. You know, we
probably think about it off the podcast and be like, if to be fair, yeah, if I remember
another time, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I mean, love for a good couple of years before I got with
my Mrs. I was just openly single, you know, I had some fun and that law book. I wasn't
ready to fucking settle down because I remember the one relationship I was in and to me wasn't
properly serious. Within two months, she was like, oh yeah, next year we'll have a kid.
I was like, no, we won't. She's like, yeah, I want to have kids next year. And so I nicked
it in the butt there. I says, all right, so if you have any kids, it's not going to be
with me looking because, you know, I was like, uh, I think 20, 21. No, I wasn't ready for
kids looking. So yeah, a lot of them were like that. Just, just stupidness where it's
fucking coming out with overcommit. We're still fucking kids. Really? No, we weren't
ready for it. So yeah, fucking had me a good couple of years and then yeah. Find the Mrs.
Yeah. Okay. Now you draw and be optimistic, but it's not always that is a great question.
Yeah. I'm not going to ask for yours because you had some fucking good luck. No, you know
what? I reckon she has some stories, you know, because yeah, if anything's worse than fucking
the smelly dick, go, let us know. But yeah, you can tell she's had some bad days. Yeah.
Yeah. But now obviously tell us your bad day. Please go stay and just if anyone else has
got a bad day, it's going to be listening up. Nah, it's really bad. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Anyone
that's, you know, that wants to tell us, I'll share their experience of a bad day. Just
please email him. Yeah. I mean, don't be sure. Literally fucking will anyone at fucking messages
in, you know, especially at the moment, because it's not like we're getting fucking hundreds
of emails on that log, you know, anyone that emails, you've got to get fucking read out
and we're small or small podcasts with a big mentality, big mentality, big personalities,
the realest of people, real life, real talk. You know, it is yet as always appreciate it
and we'll see you on the next one. Thank you. Peace.