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Hi everyone and welcome back to this week's episode of the Real Talking Podcast with your

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host Ash and Jay. So I thought I'd start this week, you know when you just get a random

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song in your head for no reason and you just start playing on and on? It's normally that

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sometimes when you see or hear the song, sort of like see it on a movie or hear it. Yeah,

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yeah. I shouldn't say see it on, you hear it on the movie still but. Yeah but there is some

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things that you'll see and it will make you feel like the video or something and then that plays

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in your head. I do wake up with all sorts of random ones in my head sometimes. I mean quite

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often, I don't know why, I think it's one of my alarms because for some reason each alarm has

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different ringtones with it and one of them reminds me of Cher, Do You Believe in Love,

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Fact or Love, yeah. Anyway, yes sometimes that's in my head in the morning but this morning I woke up

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with the BMBN song. BMBN. BMBN. It was that for the biscuits. Yeah. Top tier biscuits as well by the

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way, the chocolate ones, strawberry ones. Yeah, they were dead, they were. And I've seen B&M biscuits

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in B&M. I can't have ever looked. Yeah, now they're in there mate, one pound, I think 20.

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That's not too bad for biscuit prices. I just tank for them now mate. I've not had one for yours.

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Oh mate, the chocolate ones are top tier, the strawberry ones are no. Also one time we should

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do a top tier biscuit chart. Yeah, yeah, we'll save that for another episode. Because you know,

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malted milk with chocolate. Yeah, good old classic shortbread and all that as well. Yeah,

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oh shortbread yeah. Yeah, I mean there's all sorts of ones like that, crisps as well we could do.

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Nice crisps. Yeah, we need to do a chart as well and then we get a chart here for the visual. Yeah,

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yeah. So the YouTube. Like what the Top Gear did when they used to have like the cool car,

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you know, for the biscuits. I actually had one of those on the one exhibition show we did the

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other week. It was because they had a racing simulator and one of those timers there as well.

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Yeah, so you've got to be thinking, so with those old B&M adverts,

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they are, it's one of those ones that always sticks in your head isn't it? And you remember

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the adverts because I think I don't know if it's Sesame Street or the Muppets, they did it as well.

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When yeah, Monster, you see, but yeah, even though I was singing in one of the adverts

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and that sticks with you. But I started thinking about old adverts then. Yeah. Ones that really

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just, they're in your head aren't they? So one that I used to love was the Chewy Tapper. I like

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to chew it, chew it, I like to chew it. And it was a dinosaur with the bosses as he's rolled escape,

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just going through the town, just banging out the chains. Do you remember the Frosties one?

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The Gunner, is your Frost the Gunner taste great? The Gunner taste great. And the kid got absolutely

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terrorized. And that side of the advert, they're Gunner taste great. I feel like it was a little

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ginger kid as well wasn't it? Yeah, I think it was Frosties or something. And look, he walks and he's

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like, he's sort of brown on the street and he starts fucking flying up into the fucking sky.

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That wasn't too long ago really was it? No, it was like just the start when Soshmeet, well.

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Yeah, I'd say that's probably around 15 years. Yeah, he just went slowly across his face and

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kind of started like blowing up because he got terrified. Gunner taste great. Could you imagine

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it these days with the old Milky Bar kid advert? Because he'd get terrorized as well wouldn't it?

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Yeah, the Milky Bar one. Yeah, the little albino kid. Not that there's anything wrong with me.

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But he was an albino, he was just a blonde kid. Yeah, and then the weird one, the tango. Was it

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tango? And it was the big fella that he's gonna get. And it's just your man's running just so he

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can have his tango or whatever it was. And it's just a big hairy belly just chasing down the street.

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Do you remember like the flake ones, how sexual they used to be? Yeah.

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Just like a woman like in a field, like a sundresser. Yeah. Like in this like erratic

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like, and he's like, the crunch was like extra-nodgy. Yeah, but you know flakes don't melt.

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So people have done the experiment, they'll put a flake in like a frying pan, put it,

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obviously turn the heat on, and they don't melt. I know they got made by accident because it was

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just left over. Yeah. And someone's like. And then someone decided to put extra chocolate over it

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and make it a 12. Do you remember the pot noodle adverts as well? When they're on their beds,

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like the beds going, put it just somewhere like in the pot noodle. Yeah. And then they're like,

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pot noodle. Yeah. Yeah, that was a mad one. There was an advert that I can't remember. It was for

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cereal. And the kid wakes up, but he couldn't move out of the bed. So his mum brings him cereal.

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And then you see the bed floating along the streets into his school. I think that was a

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Caddox Corn Flakes one. Yeah. I remember that. And then, no, it wasn't an advert, was it? I'm thinking of,

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it was a music video. I can't think of a song, but he finds half of Snickers under the sofa,

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also I'm thinking he still eats it. I can't think of a song. It was, it was a music video anyway.

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If you remember, drop it in the comments. And then Yorkies.

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Oh, for men. Just for men. They're for everyone. Yeah. But the one that used to just have the no

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women side. Like I just remember the Yorkie had, but when he's got like about 10 shopping bags.

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Yeah. And was there one where he literally slaps it out of his wife's hand or something?

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Oh, and my cause as well. I think that was, oh, was that one the one, was that a Yorkie one where he slaps

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out behind all my cause cause that was my crisps. Well, to be fair, they are a bit masculine.

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No, no, no, because they're rigid, man. The solo, uh, the pack to the fly about the extra crunch.

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I remember the pack used to be a bit harder to open. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a bit in your face.

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Whereas the sea brooks, which is crisps, they're a bit lighter and softer at nice, they're more of

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a feminine. Cause my cause King prawns is nice. Yeah. I'm not much of a prawn cocktail. He's

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flavoured fat. Top tier. We need to save this for a, and also we need to do the best meal deal.

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And the worst one would be tuna and cucumber. We've already sorted them all out. It's the worst meal

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deal. My meal deal. No, the only thing is if you're one of these people that gets tuna and cucumber

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ready, salted and water, there's just no flavor. Yeah. I don't know why you do that. Cause the

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starters, you shouldn't be buying a pre-made fish sandwich because that's just fermenting in itself.

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And why are you not going for the most? The triple. Yeah. It's triple to get your money's worth.

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Triple to get anything that's full of everything. And then you get the biggest snack or pack of

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crisps that you can. The one, cause you got to scan the process of it. Look at, yeah. So that

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sandwich on its own would be free pack. That snack of chicken balls or whatever would be too packed.

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And you got to get the coffees or the red balls, the most expensive drink.

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Well, you were on the side. So the test scoop the road, the big kind of red bull,

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you know, the monster size red bull it's free pound on its own. Well, I think it's free 50 now,

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but the meal deal was free 50 with a good part. Yeah. So mom was free for the other day.

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I know we went up anyway. So you just pick the red bull purely for the fact is that's.

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So now the whole meal deal basically. Yeah. Yeah. You've got to do that. It's tactics.

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You've got to be a bit sadder. I know someone is walking to that test. Go

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tune in to come back. Ready. Salty crap bags and extra water.

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There's just no need is that. Or sometimes if I go to Subway, I'll get a wall with that

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just because he just cleans the body a bit afterwards. So yeah. And also what I do is as

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well, am I. So say if I want a red bull to make it, you know, money's worth and I've got a coke,

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but I know I scan it with the coke. It'll charge the coke as the meal deal. It's cheaper.

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If you go through the sale checkout, you have to do it yourself. So you have the tactical. So do that.

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Get your receipt. Scan the coke. Yeah. Any more money saving tips?

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Yeah. I think that could be an episode on its own as well. And with that one, that's when we

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have to do this 16 step gambling step. So we give everyone all the. I'm just saying,

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if we get up to like about a grand, it's I'm, I know I'm taking, I know I think you would as well.

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Well, we're going to have to wait and see how it works. Yeah.

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We've got to do it sir. It was 50 quid wasn't it? 50 pound each. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So

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you start off at a hundred and then. What about a zero though? It might be worth just throwing like

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a quid on that on every turn because if it comes, I don't know. Yeah. I suppose we could probably

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start off loads and just start off with a pound. Yeah. And then try and get to a hundred pound.

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Yeah. Cause I just think if you cover it, it doesn't matter. But yeah, we'll sort that tactics

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when we do it. Yeah. So yeah, it's one of the old adverts. Remember the Hot Wheels adverts,

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they used to bang as well. You'd always want to get just some of the little box cars and that there.

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And uh, what's the, not the McCarno, Kinects. Kinects. Yeah. I used to love that.

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I would speak. Do you want to think of ones that had like a theme to it? There was, what was the,

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oh, all of you guys. Kids and grownups love it so. I've got the Harry bow one in my head.

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But there was the chocolate one for football. Football crazy chocolate man. Grab a paddle

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bar. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. How about as well? Did I make them anymore? I don't think so. I've

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definitely not seen them. Just don't get it out. Do they? No. Cause even the new Pokemon sets and

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all that. You can buy the booster packs. They're funky. I remember you said you bought them.

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So it's always so good. But they just not as good. Talking about Pokemon sets, they're redoing them.

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Pokemon one five one, which was supposed to be like the next big thing that everyone wants.

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It's like the next set that comes out over here. So you'd be lucky if you get some of them.

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It's knowledge. Yeah. Covered a lot of stuff there, mate. Yeah. Meal deals, gambling.

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Yeah. I mean, again, it's probably something we could do. If we had a lot of pre-made ones or

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research done properly anyway, we could have a lot of bad firsts that we'd go over. Yeah. I mean,

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some of them were daft over the years as well. I just remember as there was loads of sexual ones,

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as I said, with the partner, with the flight. Yeah. I think a lot of them played on that

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the parents would see, they'd get the joke. Yeah. Kids would have, cause you go back and watch a lot

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of episodes of Simpsons and stuff. Yeah. And there's innuendos in those that you never got as a kid.

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I don't know what I've watched recently. And even with that also, I see that. Future Armor,

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there was some of them as well. That was more, it wasn't really a kids' car. No, no. But like

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there's stuff there. You understand that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I found that with a lot of films and

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that over here that I enjoyed as a kid. But then again, I'll re-watch films of Step Brothers and

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I'll be stuffing that that I've missed. I mean, what a film that is. Step Brothers, the other guys,

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there's films I could just watch all the time. Yeah. They need doing other guys too. I thought

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they were, mate. I thought they were. But I wouldn't, it's been ages. Yeah. I mean, you

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wouldn't have The Rock and Samuel L Jackson in number two anyway, would you? Cause unfortunately,

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it's borders of both of them, but they did miss the bushes. Yeah. Into the bushes.

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Into the bushes.

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So going on from that, after a bit of nostalgia, there was a little clip of Joe Rogan that I saw

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the other day and it's the Longyu Caves. So Longyu Caves are a complex of man-made caves located

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in Zhejiang province, China, discovered in 1992 for anyone that doesn't understand that

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the world wasn't created 23 years ago. So just stumbled on by accident, just a random

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village app walking around, just like, Oh, what's this hole? Massive fucking cave. Finds a massive cave,

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literally. So it's a total of 24 caverns within an area, 30,000 square meters.

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The architectural discovery of this, it's just ridiculous. I've looked into a lot of the pictures

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and apparently, so they think, well, they believe it was excavated, constructed. I don't know what

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the exact term would be, but 2000 years ago. Yeah. And I did see on that podcast where

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they were talking about where would all that, all that, all that stuff be?

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Like there should be somewhere where you can see where everything was taken and put.

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That's it. There should be mounds of these concrete. Yeah. Well, I don't know what you,

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yeah. It's not concrete, but yeah, the mounds of this stone that they're around. So most intriguing

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aspect of the Longyu Caves is that origins were found in mystery, the ancient history of the

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long, the ancient history of the Longyu Caves is that origins remained a mystery. No historical records

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of all local folklore explaining their construction or even their purpose.

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So as I started doing a little bit of digging,

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So based on artifacts found in there, which says they're believed to be 2000 years old,

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there's intricate carvings, draining systems and a lack of weathering.

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So with lack of weathering that means there's no brain damage, there's no sun damage.

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The fact that it had draining systems, which 2000 years ago you wouldn't have thought that was even.

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Which stuff like that has been found in the pyramids and that as well.

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But then it goes to that conspiracy, it depends on was there a civilization before us?

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There definitely was. I'll come back to the case again in a moment.

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So when it was a couple of months ago, it was all on the news and whatever,

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that the poles, the magnetization of the poles had flipped and they'd gone out of sync.

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So apparently it's a cycle that's every 10 or 15,000 years.

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When you say flips, does that mean in terms of flipped upside down, flipped to a different position?

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I think they've just flipped to a different position, but the goal is that it changes from

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north to south and south to north. So it's a cycle that happens every 10 to 15,000 years.

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And that's believed to be a reason why there's been so many extinctions over the years.

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So obviously the story of the dinosaurs was the asteroid city.

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The ice age.

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But with the poles completely swapping, that means everything literally does get flipped on its head.

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So with Australia being as hot as it is for most of the year, that would make it

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freezing cold on the Antarctic. Apparently the Antarctic used to be filled with green,

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it was all grass. Egypt, that used to have oceans, lakes, seas, whatever, all running through.

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It was just a land of green, not the desert that it is today.

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And so that does lead you to believe that obviously there's been hundreds of these poles

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swapping cycles going on. So there's at least, from one video that I've seen,

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there's at least 15 points that this has happened where the earth's reset.

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And that's one civilization that's been wiped out. So again, because you think of the last

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sea of Atlantis, where that's undersea, where it wouldn't have been when it was created,

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because obviously you can't build it undersea unless you're a mere person,

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I got touched on two last week. If you can physically live under the water,

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be able to breathe under there, then you'd be able to do it.

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So these 2000 years, it just doesn't wash for me.

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2000 years, it just doesn't wash for me. You don't think? It's not for you?

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So if you are at home and you want to have a look at these pictures yourself, so Long U,

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L-O-N-G-Y-O-U, caves, you can google it yourself. The pictures are just insane.

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The carvings that are in all this stone, I've not seen anything what these pictures are meant to

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depict, but it's just... People had struggled to do it now, and apparently it was all done by hand

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as well. But then with that, obviously it's the same timeline as the pyramids. So that's a lot

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current. So you can see that this kind of craftsmanship could be done. So I'm just

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playing devil's advocate here. So do you know what I'm saying? For the debate?

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Yeah, the pyramids are allegedly around the same age as well. But you've got all the...

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The carvings that kind of show...

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Yeah, and the corrosion on the sphinx and the deterioration of the actual pyramids themselves.

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That doesn't happen over 2000 years. Or, I mean, they were discovered a couple of hundred years

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ago, but aren't they pyramids? Apparently. So to have... When they were found and have not changed

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compared to when they were built, how can they have not changed over the last couple of years

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compared to when they were originally built? I thought the sphinx did change from when

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it was originally built. I'm sure... No, from when we've discovered it, if it's been...

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So it's just 300 years that we've known that they've been around. So 1700 years, roughly,

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before that, it's deteriorated to its current state. And then the last 300 years, nothing's

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happened to it. It's just stayed the same. I get what you're saying. So it hasn't decreased

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in our life, since humans are set eyes and it hasn't... Okay. Yeah. So how can it have deteriorated

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so much up to the point of discovery and then just stay the same? Okay. Yeah. It's all bollocks.

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So, yeah, I'll say it looked into it. All that they're saying is that it's still 2000 years ago.

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Sorry. I know. But you haven't had that discovery where... Now, I can't remember the name of it,

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where it's got all those... It's underground as well. Or was it... Yeah, I think it was underground

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and there was all these big statues of soldiers. There's like thousands of them. I remember that

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was called... Yeah, I know what you're talking about. Because originally when they were found,

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you could just see the head of all... Yeah, and then obviously they did all that and it's like

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thousands of them. And they didn't know about... And that was in the mountain sword as well. I'm

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sure it was up in the mountain. So... Yeah. We shouldn't have known what you're talking about.

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Yeah. I've never seen the pictures of it because it was literally just like an oblong head

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sticking out around and as it dug it out, it's a lot 30 meters tall or something, aren't they?

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Yeah. You have a quick look at what I'll carry on with this. So try and find out who to think

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did construct the caves. There's no evidence of who's done it. So researchers and archaeologists

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that can't figure out who's done it all speculate. The theories from the scientists and the

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archaeologists are just suggesting that it was ancient local tribes or old-fashioned government

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officials or skilled artisans. So that bit's got to be true, but the fact that they can't say

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who's done it, there's no evidence of what... There's no date of war or how it happened.

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's just nothing pointing to a certain civilization that's physically done it

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because again, when you go through the hieroglyphics of the pyramids, they've got all these different

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pictures of all the cats and they're doing this, they're doing that, but none of them show them

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actually making the pyramids. Yeah. So that leads to think did they actually build the pyramids

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themselves or did they stumble upon them after someone else has already built them years and

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years before the Egyptians come around. So leading from that, I thought let's have a little look at

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some of the conspiracy theories and as always we've got an alien theory. So I think there's

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an alien theory that I don't think we can explain because it's just the easiest. Well, I'll lay down

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to another one in a minute, but I'll come across the other day. So the alien theory, it's the same

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as ordered the usual pyramids, the Mayans and all that. It's just that an alien civilization that

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came along, found humans and got them with their bits of technology in the direction

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to come across and start building it. And one of the potential theories was that it's

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a safe space for treasures. So potentially for the aliens, treasures to be stored, looked after

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and possibly worshiped inside of there. And then the rest of them literally is just lost civilization.

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Another one was, I don't know why it's put as a separate one, but a hidden treasure one for

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a lost civilization. But the main one is of the aliens. That's the one that you can see that links

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to all these other structures and alien influence around the world. Again, you can look further into

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it, but you're going to generally find the main, same topics. I'd urge anyone that is listening

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just to have a look and have a look at it. It's just amazing. Obviously since they've been

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discovered, people have gone in and they've set up structures so you can physically walk around

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easily without harming yourself with lights and that around. But the actual stonework, the mason

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work goes into it. People would struggle, unless you're a physical stone mason and you're hand

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carving, you know, bloody headstones or whatever. People don't have these skills. It was like

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absolute years. Well, yeah, it would have done hundreds of years. If it was literally just out of

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hammers and chisels. Yeah, what we think they only have back then. Yeah, then it probably would have

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took a good hundred years or so because when she starts and a good amount of people do it,

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one man just to start the actual hole and then with the size of them, they're all up. There'd

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have to have been hundreds of people in there just doing the carving and then, you know, same amount

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of people to carry on debris out as well. Then it just goes on and on. So without any sort of external

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influence with other technologies that we don't know about, it's just unfathomable really.

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And so, yeah, the point that I was going to come back onto a couple minutes ago, a new theory that

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I saw the other day was that we are actually the alien civilization that come from Mars. So

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with the telescopes and Mars Rover and everything, this proof that Mars used to be a planet that had

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water and it would have had some form of, you know, be little microbes or whatever. But apparently

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Mars used to have an atmosphere and it would have been oceans, trees, all sorts.

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And when it was back then, the average temperature would have been around 67 degrees of the Fahrenheit

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zone, a comfortable temperature for us anyway. And so leading on to it, basically with humans here,

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now, the fact that we have to use, most of us anyway, have to use sun cream to protect ourselves

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from the harmful UV rays, it would have been fine over in Mars. Because you're further away and

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you climatize to that level of heat that's coming off the sun. The fact that we have to,

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well, we don't have to, but it's more comfortable for us to wear sunglasses in the sun to help

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protect our eyes. Whereas just that little bit further in Mars, the UV isn't as harmful. So

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it's not going to damage your eyes. Studies have found that when, if it is actually true,

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these people in the space station, so once they leave Earth's atmosphere, their body clock goes

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from a 24 hour to a 24.9. So that's like a lot of interstellar stuff there, isn't it? Yeah.

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A lot of interstellar stuff there, isn't it? Yeah. So the body clock resets to what is actually

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a full day cycle of the planet Mars. 24.9 of an hour, to me it's a bit of a strange one. So

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that's probably like 24 hours and 55 minutes roughly. So I don't know how accurate that can be

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as of it's a full day on Mars, or if it's just because they've got a little extra bit of a cycle

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of the planet, changes to that. Right. But they were pushing towards it. It's the same day span.

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So it leads to we've come from Mars. That's pretty interesting, isn't it? Yeah. Well,

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once I started looking into that, well, watching the videos for it, so the structures on Mars that

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have been seen taking pictures of not just from the rover, but from the telescopes, the structures

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there that just aren't from general, the wear and tear from the oceans moving or when they did have

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the oceans or the winds or the storms that, you know, there was a door found on one picture,

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which I think that was from the Mars rover. And it's literally a rectangle and it looks almost

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like steps going up to it. So that isn't from the winds and the storms. That's literally

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something that's been cut out. It would be interesting. I know it'd be the biggest,

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you know, point of humankind is where, to find out where did we come from. And if aliens like

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actual proof, you know, about aliens and where they've come from, if there was from Mars and then

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yeah, I mean, yeah, we've touched on it. We have a few previous episodes. I'm still going to finish

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the series, but do you watch any of the Rick and Morty program? No. So this new one that's come out

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on Netflix the other week, I don't know if it was episode four or something, but he touches onto

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these space feats. Again, spoilers, there's going to be about two minutes worth of me just rambling

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on about Rick and Morty. So if you do like it and you haven't watched any of it, just skip a couple

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of minutes. Yeah, just turn us down. Yeah, don't turn us off. Just down. So with this episode,

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a spaceship comes over onto Earth and dinosaurs come up. So what it is, the dinosaurs are here,

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they've set up civilization. They helped the humans evolve from the ape, the Neanderthals rather,

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where they're just, you know, smacking rocks together and just barely surviving. Push them

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to learn and create their own technologies and get to where we are. So once they've got so far,

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they've left so many of their own dinosaurs on Earth as well. And then they've gone off to another

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planet and another planet and another planet. And so as they've left Earth, there's another,

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it's like an asteroid that's alive and it's chasing this civilization of dinosaurs from planet to

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planet. And so it comes along, hits into Earth, destroys the dinosaurs and then it leaves,

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goes off to the next planet that they've landed on and have done the same. They've helped build

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up a new society. So Rick and Morty is trying to find what's going on basically. And as they've

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gone onto each planet, it's the same thing that's come along and blowing up the planet. And none of

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these civilizations on the other planets have lasted as long. They're all stupid, but they've

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all got the same thing. They've got museums with dinosaur bones and everything because that's what

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they kept doing. So that could be, it's just Rick and Morty touching onto another one of these

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conspiracy theories, but that could be something that happens. You think with the influence,

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with the hieroglyphs and that, with the pyramids, as we've touched on before with the pictures of

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the elongated heads, you can see them actually worshipping some of the things that's coming

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down. And again, I'm going to have to do a full, at least get all these pictures and stats and

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everything so we can do a proper episode on it. But just the fact that the pyramid of Giza,

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it's just mathematically correct. It's facing, it's perfectly straight for North, South, East and West.

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Yeah. You know, it's perfectly to scale from the centre of the earth to all the corners and this

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and that. There's so much stuff into those pyramids that line up with the speed of sound

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or speed of light, I think it was. Speed of light there was. It lines up with the Iran's bow,

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as you said, with the Angus. Yeah. Is it called ley lines as well?

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Yeah, so with the... It lines up with pretty much...

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Yeah, everything's there. Everything's there. And it's just, it's not coincidence.

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They knew what was going on. Yeah, if someone was to like,

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let's whack these and get it to spot on, it's like billions and billions.

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And it goes on to another old theory as well that aliens would come to earth and they were using the

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pyramids as a map to find their next destination. Our pyramids was like an old fashioned tom-tom,

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sat nav. So you could imagine there's other planets out there that have got these structures

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as well. Because I'm sure I saw one picture where it's a similar structure on Mars as well,

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but it's not a, as you look from above, a square pyramid. It was a five points, so a hexagon shaped

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pyramid. And I'll have to look into it, but that was, again, doing mathematical, just

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mind-boggling stuff. So... So you can go right in the black hole when you start.

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Oh, it is. It's kind of weird. Because there's that dark

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sword of the moon where they're supposed to be something similar like an alien building.

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Yeah, yeah. There's the secret base there.

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That's why we've never went to the dark sword of the moon for so long.

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But it's just that black hole, isn't it? Oh no. And I think that leads on to the next one.

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So there's the underground, undersea space base, which is called a Titanic. And that's why

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the totem exploded or imploded or... Well, I mean, the pictures are out there now.

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They've started a couple of days of bringing up parts of the wreckage of the submarine totem. And

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I know you haven't seen any until you've bought it up. And a lot of the pieces look intact.

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Well, I thought implosion would... You know, like if you get your car crushed instead.

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So one that I thought about after that episode last week, I imagine you've done it at least once.

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We did it in school and several times afterwards anyway. So when you have a can of Coke or Pepsi

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or whatever, preferably empty because you don't want to make a mess, but you can physically stand.

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That can will take the whole of your weight and not move. As soon as you're in school,

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we give it a little tap with a ruler and the whole can just crush. So that's what it should have done.

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But with these pictures that are coming out, there's whole pieces of its shell that are coming out

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barely even crinkled. There's what was brought up front in the back, essentially just big rings

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that was attached to it. Yeah. I've just seen a picture of one of those rings actually.

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Yeah. Well, both of them have been taken out and it's literally just like they've been dismantled.

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Well, no, it's not even those ones. It's literally like a big metal ring.

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And there's two of them and you can see there's holes that or bolts go into and whatever.

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And they've come out intact. Fair enough, if they're steel rings, they'll be a bit harder to

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crush. But the most interesting one that I did see out of these pictures was the control system.

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So it wasn't really encased in anything. It's just what looks like a little bit of a monitor

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with the joystick on and all the wires are exposed and none of it's damaged. You can literally see

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all the wires still connected. So it just leads onto some of the conspiracy theories that we

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started off last week. I've only seen them coming in days after we'd started talking about it.

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So I've briefed on, no, sorry, I'm not briefed. I've seen a little bit on the one that you came

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up with where it's all a showcase that they've faked it. Yeah, it's like applied to like,

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Yeah. And then they're on Epstein's Island or somewhere else now with Michael Jackson and

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Tupac and all the rest of them. So what they were doing, we don't know, I believe it's the Ross

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Childs family because they funded it. They turned a blind eye on everything that was going on, the

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safety features and that. And then they've just allowed it to go on. They've killed them and then

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just use this little wreckage as a ploy to make everyone think that it's imploded.

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The media strongly all out as well. So I know I did say it last week, the Coast Guard or the

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military, the Navy, whatever it is, they knew on the Sunday that it had gone, that it's exploded,

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imploded. Yeah, it was reported on the media that it's gone. They could still hear something

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coming off the side of the island. Yeah, it was apparently. And then, so they strung it out for

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five days where apparently, they knew straight away that it was gone. They weren't there no more.

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They weren't there no more. I know you're not going to find any bodies or anything down there

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because going off of the pictures how it has come out intact. So if it's exploded, somehow,

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rather than imploded, the bodies would have came out, but then the fish food and obviously,

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you know, that thing, the probably would have just, you know, heads would have blown up or

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something straight away. It's a weird one because I have heard that they've got remains as well.

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Oh, I've not seen any remains. I'm sure, well, I haven't seen them myself, Jack. No. But I've

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seen an article where they're saying, oh, there's been remains found from the wreckage. But when you

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look at the pictures, you can see why the wood, but then it just doesn't look imploded, does it?

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It definitely hasn't. Is this the one where you, sorry, one sec. Is that the one you run

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about with all the wires? Because you... It is that, but there was a clearer one as well.

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I don't know how to categorise. If it imploded, everything would have just been crushed.

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Yeah, unless it sunk up and it exploded and then it just sank. I think the only way that would

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would have been able to happen is if there was a breach before they've gone too far down,

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because if water would have gone in, well, you know, say there are a thousand feet down,

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the pressure's not built up too much and then water started to seep in, then that would probably

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explain why there'd still be noises being heard because it's already just broken apart.

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And I know we touched on it last week. The thing though I don't understand is, boy, you would set

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a four-hour journey, one hour to go down, to come back up to one hour journey in

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not a cartoon, but like a car size where you can't go to the bathroom, go out of the home.

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They did actually have a little portable toilet. It was just like a box with a seat on.

372
00:41:53,520 --> 00:42:01,520
But boy, didn't they, as we said, just come out of a ship, jump into the sub, go down, come back up.

373
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:10,880
If anything was to go wrong, you know the vicinity of the area. It just seems a long-winded approach

374
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:15,840
and not enjoyable. Yeah, I've still not seen anyone else touch on that. Boy, didn't they have?

375
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:24,480
I just, if you're up in there, if you've got unlimited resources, you can afford a bigger boat

376
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:30,160
to bring your sub out. Surely he's got his own personal yacht as well. So even if he just had

377
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:36,240
that there and just tugged it along or something. But as I said, I've not seen anyone else bring

378
00:42:36,240 --> 00:42:42,960
what wasn't there, other means of another ship or something there. And even on the coast guard's

379
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:49,600
point of view, you'd think, well, I'm gone. This is happening. There's next to no regulations on it.

380
00:42:50,720 --> 00:42:56,240
This is just a bunch of random billionaires just going out. They've not got any experience.

381
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:01,440
I'm going to just send out one of the lads. Yeah, we've got some concern. Yeah, send out Jeff.

382
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:09,840
Just follow him and just keep an eye out. Just fall be upon a call. Yeah, just wait for him to come

383
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:14,720
back up and just keep tabs to see what's going on. The fact that no one sends anyone out.

384
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:20,640
There's, I suppose, as I said, with anything with a little bit of mystery, there's always that

385
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:28,800
conspiracy. But that's just, for me, just the biggest thing is if I'm a billionaire, I'm not

386
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:34,880
sitting and using a little polar pilot for four hours when I can just relax on my yacht, give it

387
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:47,600
to the land. Anything happens, we're fucking out. Yeah. It stems on, so basically it's all coming

388
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:55,040
out now. There's restrictions being put in supply that no one else can do. Anything similar. Yeah,

389
00:43:55,040 --> 00:44:01,360
it's not an exploration. It's an exploration. They won't be able to go down in manned submarines.

390
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:07,200
It's got to be all these. Who does that? Because it's international water, so no one has really

391
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:15,760
regulations. I'm guessing it's everyone. Similar to, okay, there's NATO and stuff. I imagine

392
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:19,680
there's a governing body of some sorts that says yes or no, you can't do this and that.

393
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,880
So yeah, they're saying that there's no manned exploration is going to go down now.

394
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:32,480
So it just leads you to think on what are the holding there? What else is down there?

395
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:42,000
Why can't you look at the tot, what's holding it to make you think, no, it can't go. Yeah, even so,

396
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:49,280
going off the aspect of one deep side, the trial, the failed, you can't try again now. Imagine if

397
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:55,680
you had that mentality of everything. So that is a bit strange, boy. I would say, right, from that

398
00:44:55,680 --> 00:45:03,040
one, it can't, because this one failed because they used the logic control stick and air tags,

399
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:12,240
which, you know. Yeah, it does, I've not seen too many on it, but it does make you think, well,

400
00:45:12,240 --> 00:45:20,160
what is there? Because when you've got these robot ones going down that are just controlled from

401
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:26,480
a chap sitting behind his computer, obviously that footage that they do take can easily be edited.

402
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:32,400
And sorry, it just popped to my mind as you're saying it. It's like that Estonia. Have you heard

403
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:40,320
about the Estonia? At the ship that sank, it was a Swedish ship and I think it was travelling,

404
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:45,200
I can't remember where it was travelling to, but there's a documentary on discovery, Estonia,

405
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:52,560
and basically, no one can go down to view it as well, because it's in Swedish waters.

406
00:45:53,600 --> 00:46:02,000
The Swedish government was banned, and I think there was going to or did drop concrete all over

407
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:06,400
it so no one could visually see it, and they're saying it's a place of rest, because I don't think

408
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:12,720
it's, I can't remember the supplement, but just as we were talking, it's the same thing with Estonia,

409
00:46:12,720 --> 00:46:19,440
you can't. So with the tour Titanic, obviously, up until this, you could go down to see it.

410
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:26,960
Yeah. But as soon as it happened, no one could go down to see it, and the documentary crew basically

411
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:33,040
went down to have a look at it basically. Yeah. So I can't remember how it ended,

412
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:37,440
because there was another season, but yeah, sorry, it just comes to me as you were talking,

413
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:41,600
it's a bit like that how straight away you can't go and view it. Yeah, I'll have to have a look.

414
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:51,040
I know it's called Estonia, it's on discovery. There's two seasons on it. I do watch, you know,

415
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:55,920
the kinds of documentaries, because I watched the one recently, well I've come out a few months

416
00:46:55,920 --> 00:47:02,960
ago actually, but it was the Malaysian airplane. Yeah, the missing flight MH47. I think it was around

417
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:13,920
there. So the plane set off, it should have gone one way, apparently diverted another way,

418
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:18,080
putting this and that. Again, that went on for ages, then two weeks later you found out,

419
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:22,080
apparently, whenever like Indian Airspace picked up a few hours later, but then,

420
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:27,440
the news for two weeks was we don't know where it is, but all along apparently it went massive

421
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:35,120
U on itself, U shape and flight. Was it Indian, the Vietnam, or some military picked it up on their

422
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:43,040
radar, didn't they? Yeah, there was reports apparently Russians had docked the plane and

423
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:54,480
took it somewhere. There was one chap that he took it upon himself, figured out five paths to find

424
00:47:54,480 --> 00:48:01,520
debris, so he's gone to this beach, and we've been like an hour, and then he's gone somewhere else.

425
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:09,760
It was a French based island, wasn't it? It was a French island that he's seen one first in the

426
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:18,800
Indian Ocean, like that French, yeah. But he denied having links with the Russian governments.

427
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:24,720
Because no one has found pieces besides his geyser. Yeah, because he'd gone to so many places and

428
00:48:24,720 --> 00:48:31,520
found something everywhere, and I did have to laugh, but at the end of it there was just no

429
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:37,440
conclusion, it was still a mystery. Obviously there were several theories on that as well,

430
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:43,840
of course one of them was aliens. I think anything unexplained, someone just throws an alien in there.

431
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:48,320
It's what you think about the Bermuda Triangle, you don't hear a bit of any of that these days,

432
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:53,040
do you? Back in the day, everyone used to go missing there, didn't they? Yeah, it was just

433
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:57,200
a forbidden triangle, you can't travel through it. I remember saying when I was a kid, to be fair,

434
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:01,840
I thought this fucking group of idiots that went on the toilet, that he thought I did have the money,

435
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:07,920
I'd just explore it myself, but as I've grown up I thought, hey, that's a stupid idea. You'd pay

436
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:16,240
someone to explore in there? Well, so let's just say that if I want a stupid lottery fee of hundreds

437
00:49:16,240 --> 00:49:21,520
of millions of pounds, then I'm not going to physically go there myself, I'm going to make

438
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:30,480
these submarines that are controlled from a laptop. So if I was doing it, I'd be like,

439
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:39,120
I'm going to my yacht or whatever I've got, and I'd be going up to the safe points, so say 10 miles

440
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:45,920
away from this Bermuda Triangle, and then I'd be like, Rod, with my drone submarine thing,

441
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:52,800
yep, go down now. And so you're in a safe spot and you can just control it, go in with your cameras,

442
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:57,360
go, oh yeah, that's what's there then. I'll do it that way, that's how these fucking idiots should

443
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:02,240
have done it. I don't mean to be nasty and slag off the dead, they are idiots, or whatever.

444
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:11,120
That's if they are dead. They probably are on an island somewhere living it up now,

445
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:21,600
sleeping out of coconuts, laughing at everyone. It's just stupid. They should have done that,

446
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:27,600
they should have, governments and whatever should have stepped in and done things with it, but they haven't done.

447
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:37,520
But I still just wonder what's there, why won't they let anything else go down.

448
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:40,640
Yeah, like why won't someone file so no one else can do it.

449
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:48,480
Yeah, because as I say, it's just when someone does send any of these robots down,

450
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:56,640
the videos can be edited. So if the camera spans too far to the left and the CDs murder people,

451
00:50:56,640 --> 00:51:01,600
oh shit, yeah, let's cut that, let's just stop it at that point, then let's skip on to this one now.

452
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:08,640
Or the alien base that's down there, or whatever secret military base is down there.

453
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:16,240
I don't know, it's just crazy isn't it. I'm surprised there's no flat earthers that are coming out with

454
00:51:16,240 --> 00:51:23,200
their own theories, not that I've seen yet anyway, which that brings me on actually.

455
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:27,760
So obviously the Just Stop Oil protests are still going on everywhere.

456
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:32,720
They were at the Crickey V of the day, suspended play on that, not that a lot of Crickey are just

457
00:51:32,720 --> 00:51:35,840
there on the radio. You don't like Crickey, you love it?

458
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:43,680
No, another one of the dickheads just ran on, throwing the orange powder everywhere,

459
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:49,600
and it's all passed down. Jeff has got a vacuum out and just packed up the orange powder,

460
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:52,640
and then it's done. I don't know what they think they're achieving.

461
00:51:52,640 --> 00:52:00,000
No, and I've seen Piers Morgan, sorry, wouldn't you go to China? They do 20% of the population.

462
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:05,040
Yeah, sorry. 20 times more pollution than any other guy.

463
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:09,280
And now we're saying they've got more population, that's why. But Piers Morgan was saying,

464
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:14,720
I'll pay for you to go over there and do the throw-offs over there.

465
00:52:14,720 --> 00:52:18,880
And there's like, you won't because you know, you got thrown into jail,

466
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:25,840
and you want to see that all again for yours. So if you do it because you can't, it's just...

467
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:31,600
It's frustrating because they're not making any impact. No, everyone's laughing at them now.

468
00:52:32,240 --> 00:52:36,400
In a video that I saw last night, they're marching in the street in London,

469
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:40,400
and there's a bunch of lads... Oh, the stackers, yeah.

470
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:42,400
And they're singing...

471
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:46,400
We're singing a vile, we do, oh vile, we do.

472
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:48,400
And then they grab all the banners and they're running off.

473
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:54,400
And I could see the one person that's a part of the process, they're holding the laughter.

474
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,400
They were adding a little bit of a snigger going on.

475
00:52:56,400 --> 00:53:04,400
Because it's just a man in a pink tutu and that, just singing and running off.

476
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:10,400
Fair fox to them lads. I think that's a good approach for you.

477
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:14,400
And just to buy the turn into a football chant as well.

478
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:16,400
Just absolutely legends.

479
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:22,400
I've seen a few more now, though, where they place their arrest.

480
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:26,400
Yeah, they're getting armed now. I think they give them a minute to get off the street.

481
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,400
And if so, they decide, look, this is what's going to happen.

482
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:34,400
They've got a minute to get onto the pavement, it's a solid wall.

483
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:40,400
And if so, if you're not on the pavement in one minute,

484
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:43,400
and the one's like, where does the pavement start?

485
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,400
And I'm like, what do you mean, where does the pavement start?

486
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:48,400
Yeah, where the curb makes the road.

487
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:54,400
And then there was another one where the woman just literally stopped in front of the car

488
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:58,400
and then she started thumping into the car, so essentially backing into it.

489
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:02,400
And the police officer was like, well, I've got to know, you're causing damage to that car.

490
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:05,400
He's not driving into you. You're physically touching that car.

491
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:09,400
So get out of the way. Ends up putting that handcuff on her.

492
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:15,400
And the worst thing is all these posh people, rich families, you know,

493
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:18,400
and they've got the weird haircuts.

494
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:21,400
Yeah, yeah, the blue hairstyles and all that.

495
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:25,400
And then when you confront them on it, like when you say, you know,

496
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:28,400
here's more of this, they just go off on a random.

497
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:30,400
Yeah, they can't have a yes or no answer.

498
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:34,400
It's not an actual conversation. It's just this is how it is.

499
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:38,400
You have to accept it. There's no reason with people all this.

500
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:41,400
It's just absolutely ridiculous.

501
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:45,400
I mean, I could go on about other stuff that I've seen in the last couple of days as well.

502
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:50,400
But, well, probably months over, actually, it's the first of July now.

503
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:55,400
All these fucking mentally disabled people that are coming out.

504
00:54:55,400 --> 00:55:01,400
I was watching a video the other day with one of the parades for Pride Month.

505
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,400
Do whatever you want to be, whoever you want to be.

506
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:10,400
But when they're all singing, we're here, we're queer, we're here to take your children,

507
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:15,400
that's not just about what you see yourself as male, female,

508
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:21,400
looking non-binary, whatever it is, that's saying that you're either

509
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:24,400
wanting to nounce the children, so you're wanting to...

510
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:26,400
It's not good messages to send, is it?

511
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:32,400
Or you're trying to influence the children to be what you want them to be,

512
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:33,400
not what they want to be.

513
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:40,400
I've seen a parade, and I think it was in Canada or America, just by the landscape.

514
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:42,400
We were definitely in the UK.

515
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:45,400
And there's this old man with white briefs,

516
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:51,400
and I think he's wearing a rainbow sashay around his neck all over.

517
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:54,400
And he's just walking in this parade, and he's just twerking,

518
00:55:54,400 --> 00:56:00,400
and there's kids in the parade, and he's literally just a man in a 50-year-old man,

519
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:06,400
a bit heavyset, white pants on, and he goes, like, one side of the crowd, twerks,

520
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:13,400
goes to the left side, twerks, back to the right, twerks, and I'm like, what?

521
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:15,400
Why is that even...

522
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:22,400
Can you imagine if anyone, I mean, just take away the fact he was at a pride march,

523
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:26,400
can you imagine if anyone else walked down the street in white pants,

524
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:29,400
just doing that to people? It's not...

525
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:33,400
Well, I think these days, you won't be able to do anything.

526
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:38,400
You'd have to just accept that that person is doing what they want to do.

527
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:40,400
But it isn't stupid.

528
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:43,400
I know the school's curriculum's changing,

529
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:48,400
that from the age of nine, they are going to start teaching,

530
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:50,400
I don't know how you can teach it,

531
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:58,400
but teaching children about all the genders and sexuality.

532
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:02,400
And it's not just, like, talking about it.

533
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:07,400
I'm showing them videos of everything, of the sex changes and whatever else.

534
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:10,400
It's not... No, because it influences your mind as a kid.

535
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:14,400
It's hard enough as a child, as it is, just to figure out what you want to do

536
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:17,400
as you leave school, and school's hard enough.

537
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:19,400
Oh, I'm not going to accept you.

538
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:24,400
I just feel like, you know, and this is not me coming as a gay person,

539
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:28,400
I just feel like, you know, the gay community, you know,

540
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:32,400
works so hard to get accepted.

541
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:36,400
And I feel like they get, like, you know, I don't know what it's like,

542
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:38,400
but there's more acceptance, like, you know,

543
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:44,400
I look at two lads walking down the street, holding hands.

544
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:46,400
You're just like, here we go.

545
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:48,400
You don't even think about it really these days.

546
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:51,400
I'm not like, whoa, what are they doing?

547
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:53,400
Yeah, I remember when we was kids,

548
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:58,400
we were just frowned upon and it was still very taboo.

549
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:01,400
You know, it just seems to be more frowning your face,

550
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:05,400
and I'm not saying frown, it's more of the trans...

551
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:06,400
Yeah, it's...

552
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:09,400
It's a bit heavy, it's a bit...

553
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:12,400
It's forced, it's literally...

554
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:18,400
You have to accept, you have to believe, you have to see in their way.

555
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:22,400
They just can't accept, or, yeah, whatever, do what you want.

556
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:25,400
We don't care, or we shouldn't have to care.

557
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:28,400
Yeah, I feel that's just the main problem.

558
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:32,400
It's just, you can think that way, you can feel that way,

559
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:35,400
and you can express that way,

560
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:40,400
but it shouldn't mean that everyone else has to start calling other people

561
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:43,400
by your terminology, I don't know if that's the right word,

562
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:45,400
or your use of genders.

563
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:50,400
So, you know, calling someone them, them dying instead of him,

564
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:55,400
that's not your belief, because it needs, like, if you're a religious person,

565
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:59,400
why is more in society, is religion more than...

566
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:01,400
Do you get what I'm saying?

567
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:06,400
So, if someone's religion doesn't allow that thought process to come into being,

568
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:10,400
well then, what's the right way of...

569
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:12,400
Obviously, we could be here, or...

570
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:15,400
Yeah, we could have a whole other episode, I think...

571
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:19,400
And I don't really know if we're talking about this stuff, because...

572
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:24,400
It's hard to talk about a lot of it, because I'm not on with a lot of things I want to say.

573
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:28,400
And that's what I'm saying, because you can't really say what you want to say,

574
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:31,400
but you can say it, but it's just like...

575
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:35,400
It's not so much about getting cancelled or anything like that,

576
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:39,400
it's just heavy to talk about in terms of...

577
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:45,400
You don't want to say something in terms of, oh, this and that.

578
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:49,400
It seems like if you tack one, you're tacking all the communities, like...

579
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:51,400
You know, when it's not...

580
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:58,400
As we just said, for me, I just feel like the gay communities come on such a long way now,

581
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:04,400
and are being accepted, and, you know, I'm not gay or whatever, but...

582
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:06,400
Only on the weekends.

583
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:08,400
Yeah.

584
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:14,400
But, you know, and then for this now to come up, and I feel like it's just...

585
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:17,400
It's getting to a breaking point.

586
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:19,400
It's like, when is the limit now?

587
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:23,400
Because obviously you talked about them going to schools early and teaching them earlier.

588
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:24,400
Yeah.

589
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:26,400
It's like, does a drag...

590
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:31,400
Because I've seen one where a drag act is in a school, like...

591
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:33,400
And this is in America, we can know as well, like...

592
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:40,400
Why is that necessary to have a live person in school to do it, even if you are doing the lesson?

593
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:45,400
Because you wouldn't have a live sex show...

594
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:47,400
Well, that's probably going to be the next step, isn't it?

595
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:51,400
In terms of, this is how you reproduce.

596
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:53,400
But you'd have someone that...

597
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:57,400
A male that dresses up as a female.

598
01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:02,400
But then a drag person isn't just part of the gay community.

599
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:04,400
You don't have to be gay to be a drag...

600
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:05,400
A lot of them aren't, no matter...

601
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:08,400
That's what I'm saying, so it's just like...

602
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:10,400
It's... When you really unravel it...

603
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:13,400
It's... That's what I'm saying, it's kind of heavy in terms of...

604
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:15,400
Because you could say the wrong thing, like...

605
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:19,400
We're on about, you know, the trans community here, but like...

606
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:23,400
And we just touched that... A drag artist might not be gay.

607
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:26,400
It's just that weird...

608
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:31,400
I've never known it in my whole lifetime where it's just such a hot topic, but so...

609
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:33,400
Not so much to do, but...

610
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:38,400
I think it's just because there's too many ways to be wrong with all these conversations.

611
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:41,400
I think, as you just said as well, you can't have a...

612
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:43,400
There's no honest...

613
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:46,400
You can't... No, there's no honest...

614
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:48,400
There's no... There's no debate.

615
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:49,400
Is there anything more I've seen?

616
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:53,400
Well, I've even seen...

617
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:58,400
People from the trans community arguing with themselves over different opinions.

618
01:01:58,400 --> 01:01:59,400
Oh.

619
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:09,400
Where one person was male, transitioned to female, and then transitioned back to male.

620
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:14,400
And then there was another arguing with them, saying that you're wrong for doing that.

621
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:16,400
And they're saying, like, well...

622
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:18,400
But then how can you be right up into the transition back then?

623
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:20,400
Yeah, like...

624
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:23,400
They're trying to say that we want to be who we feel that we are.

625
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:28,400
And now you're telling me that I'm wrong because I don't feel like a woman anymore.

626
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:30,400
I don't want to be a man again.

627
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:33,400
And it's just... They can't even agree amongst themselves.

628
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:34,400
It's just ridiculous.

629
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:43,400
I saw another one where she was a female, but I believe the pronouns were they, them.

630
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:46,400
And someone said it was in a coffee shop.

631
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:52,400
They've gone, oh yeah, I just want to ask your pronouns because I feel like you're a they, them.

632
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:54,400
But I just want to make sure first.

633
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:56,400
And they were exactly right.

634
01:02:56,400 --> 01:03:02,400
And this woman was pissed off that they got it right and had asked all the right questions to start a conversation with them.

635
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:07,400
And so she's ready to argue with someone for not asking for pronouns.

636
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:08,400
For being correct.

637
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:09,400
Yeah, she's...

638
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:10,400
In there, in there.

639
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:14,400
It's just initially just wanting to have the argument and put someone in the place

640
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:18,400
because they're not asking the questions, they're just assuming gender and whatever.

641
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:25,400
It's like, just be happy that this person has asked what you want them to ask and they've got it right.

642
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:27,400
But just always on the edge wanting to argue.

643
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:30,400
I mean, it's like fucking vegans, eh?

644
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:31,400
Yeah.

645
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:36,400
I feel like, for me, like everyone can be who they want to be.

646
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:40,400
And obviously, and be who they want to be.

647
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:42,400
You know, whatever.

648
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:43,400
Yeah, each to their own.

649
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:44,400
Yeah, exactly.

650
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:49,400
But just with this, as I keep saying, it's a bit heavy.

651
01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:52,400
It's a bit forced more than anything.

652
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:55,400
And that's the...

653
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:57,400
Where...

654
01:03:57,400 --> 01:04:00,400
Like now, when we're talking about it, it's just like...

655
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:01,400
It's uncomfortable.

656
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:05,400
It's uncomfortable because it's...

657
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:09,400
You know, there's people probably having this process and it's not saying you're wrong for thinking if you...

658
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:11,400
You know, you still look a girl or something like that.

659
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:12,400
Definitely not, you know.

660
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:20,400
But we wouldn't be doing ourselves just as a podcast and expressing our views when it's called Real Talk.

661
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:23,400
If it's to a certain point...

662
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:28,400
Yeah, if we bent over to the narrative of what they want us to do.

663
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:29,400
Yeah.

664
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:32,400
I'd love to have a guest.

665
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:34,400
I don't know if you...

666
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:35,400
Because you're...

667
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:37,400
Yeah, go on, sorry. I can't feel it.

668
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:40,400
Where I'm leaning to is just...

669
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:49,400
It's going to be wrong to say it this way, but a normal transgender person, one that just has transitions and just wants to be who they want to be.

670
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:52,400
And have this real conversation.

671
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:54,400
Yeah, who's someone you can...

672
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:55,400
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

673
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:57,400
Just have an actual conversation with.

674
01:04:57,400 --> 01:05:00,400
Not one that wants to argue with me.

675
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:01,400
And force their beliefs.

676
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:03,400
Yeah, and tell them that I'm wrong and everything.

677
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:04,400
Just want to...

678
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:05,400
Because there's questions.

679
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:06,400
We all have questions.

680
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:10,400
You know, how did you feel before you'd done anything like that?

681
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:14,400
There's questions that I'd like to ask and just get their views on it.

682
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:24,400
And then if they are on the level to give their opinion on these extremists as well, I'd love to have them conversation with someone.

683
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:26,400
We do need guests on the show, don't we?

684
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:27,400
Yeah.

685
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:28,400
It'd be great to get some guests on the show.

686
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:30,400
We do need to...

687
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:41,400
Well, anyone that's listening, I mean, not the American audience really, because we're not in America, but any of the local people.

688
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:44,400
So we're Birmingham based.

689
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:47,400
England, Birmingham, not Alabama.

690
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:58,400
But yeah, so anyone that's close to the Midlands or anything that would love to come on and just have a chat about anything, you know, doesn't have to be anything serious, anything political or whatever.

691
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:00,400
If you just want to come on and just have a...

692
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:09,400
Ask questions, give any of your life experiences or whatever, if you've got a story that you want to tell, we'd absolutely love it.

693
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:15,400
Hopefully it's when we've got the studio sorted out.

694
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:17,400
If not, we'll just find a different room.

695
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:19,400
If the weather's nice, we could always sit outside.

696
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:20,400
Yeah, there's always alternative.

697
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:23,400
Yeah, we can find somewhere.

698
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:27,400
I suppose, yeah, we've ended on a bit of a rant.

699
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:29,400
Yeah, but no, it's...

700
01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:31,400
Oh, it started off as a rant, to be fair.

701
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:32,400
No, yeah.

702
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:33,400
Just because it is frustrating.

703
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:42,400
It is frustrating, but obviously we're not, you know, as I said, we're not against it or nothing like that.

704
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:55,400
It's just what we're seeing, you know, for me, you know, and I said it wouldn't be off the rise of podcast not to not give our true feelings.

705
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:57,400
But it's not just our true feelings though, is it?

706
01:06:57,400 --> 01:07:03,400
You know, there's a lot of people out there that want to say things, but they're scared.

707
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:05,400
I suppose, yeah.

708
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:07,400
I suppose we haven't got that.

709
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:09,400
What's the word?

710
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:13,400
There's no fear because there's nothing to lose as such.

711
01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:16,400
Well, yeah, at the end of the day, we're still just having faith.

712
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:19,400
It's just a little podcast, it sounds like.

713
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:32,400
You know, it's not going to overturn anything. We're not going to change the vast majority of people's lives with our little opinions.

714
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:35,400
But there's a lot of people out there that do feel the same.

715
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:37,400
And there's a lot of people out there that do this one.

716
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:39,400
Yeah, there is.

717
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:42,400
Lean back onto that anyway, don't you know?

718
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:44,400
So glad.

719
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:46,400
Smooth.

720
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:51,400
So, yeah, so any questions?

721
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:54,400
We've not had any emails this week, unfortunately.

722
01:07:54,400 --> 01:08:00,400
But if there's anything you do want to email, it's realtalkingpod at gmail.com.

723
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:03,400
Twitter, I've got to get more active on there.

724
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:05,400
I'm really struggling with time.

725
01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:07,400
I need to make more time.

726
01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:11,400
Twitter, Ash and JD.

727
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:13,400
YouTube as well.

728
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:19,400
Real Talking Pod on the YouTube so you can see our faces.

729
01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:22,400
Yeah, I think we should leave it there.

730
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:24,400
Yeah, that was a long one.

731
01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:26,400
Well, yeah, a little bit longer than normal.

732
01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:28,400
About like an 18 minute rant.

733
01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:29,400
Yeah.

734
01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:30,400
Well, not rant. We shouldn't call it a rant.

735
01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:31,400
Discussion.

736
01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:35,400
I started off as a coming into a rant because it is annoying.

737
01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:39,400
But, OK, I'm not saying trans people are annoying.

738
01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:43,400
It's the forcing eye to the children.

739
01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:45,400
Yeah, it's that narrative.

740
01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:48,400
That's what's getting annoying.

741
01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:51,400
Well, yeah, I hope you've enjoyed it.

742
01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:54,400
And if you have, leave a log.

743
01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:58,400
There are more people listening than subscribing and downloading.

744
01:08:58,400 --> 01:09:02,400
So if you can download, that's where our stats will get higher.

745
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:07,400
And it will get shared to more people with the downloads and the logs and everything.

746
01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:11,400
I know you're aware of the YouTubers and everything, Rat-A-Lan-A-Barrity.

747
01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:14,400
But it does make a difference. It really does.

748
01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:21,400
So if you can log, share, show it to your mums, your dads, your nans, your aunties, siblings.

749
01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:28,400
Anyone that you think might be happy listening to us, really would appreciate it.

750
01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:33,400
So on that bombshell, see you next week then.

751
01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:34,400
Have a good one.

752
01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:37,400
Bye bye.