It was a birthday gift.
Oh, boom, boom.
What's it called?
Four... Fourgate.
Fourgate. Fourgate.
Oh, dudes like us. It's, um...
Ladies and gentlemen.
It's the middle of the June right now.
It is. Beware the Ides of June.
Where the heat starts to come out and
melt you. How dare you be comfortable
for the other ten months out of the year.
God, this week has been brutal.
It has.
Hot stuff.
Yeah, Preston's in the backyard.
He set up a... I bought him a punching
thing, like, for Christmas.
Got him, like, a really nice...
Well, what I thought was an ice one, whatever.
It was expensive. A punching bag?
Well, it's a pedestal.
You fill up with sand or water.
And the little thing you punch,
it screws in. It's a big thing.
He's out in the back with his gloves on,
just going to town.
What do you call those things that go...
Those are speed bags?
Speed bag.
He's got his Creed II soundtrack playing
while he's working out.
He probably does. Nice.
Yeah, they like that movie.
Alright, so, um,
for my birthday back in April, my wife
bought... Well, should we do some
introductions first? We should.
Oh, hi. This dude's like us. I'm Sean.
I'm Paul. And I'm Jeff, and we have a special
guest. Special guest.
Rende. Special Rende.
I like that. He's got a little flair to it.
This is part two for Rende, so we've changed
some things up a little bit. No, I think he's been on
three times. Three times?
Yep. Third time, cool.
So, yeah, we've rearranged a little bit,
upgraded some things, so hopefully you enjoyed
and we're about to enjoy this
exceptional bourbon that Sean got.
Well, we don't want to talk too much about the
bourbons because the feedback is that we're
talking about beef.
Actually, the feedback we got was
talk more about beef and the cuts of beef
and the parts of a cow.
They said dedicate more time to that.
So my wife blindly went to
Total Wine, and she was just,
you know, she wanted to get me
something nice, and she doesn't really know what to get me
because she's like, well, I'm not buying him another Xbox,
so he's not getting that. There we go.
She's like, she picked out this
Fork 8 bottle. It was 200 bucks.
Well, she walked up to the glass case
and said, open that case.
Yeah, and our friend Kevin was there, and, you know,
he opened it up, and then,
the angels come out.
The alarm goes off.
And all the employees gather around.
Look, someone's going to buy that.
Stop it. No, no, no, really.
That idiot, he's going to buy that bottle.
So, well, you know what,
I've always, I have my hesitations
or my reservations
when it comes to these
expensive bottles. Are they really
that good? Are they really worth it?
And the answer's no.
I mean, this is good.
Is it $200 good? No.
Agreed.
I'm going to agree. Yeah, it's not too
good because we've had some that are
just as good, that are half, less than half that.
That are 80, that are 75.
It's good enough that for a single
purchase, there's no regret.
It's a solid experience, but
a one and done is fine. On our dime,
anyway. Now, all you
listeners, if you want to challenge
our theory. Correct.
This isn't a knockoff, this isn't a knock to 4K
because it's fantastic.
Yeah.
It's very good. And it wasn't really
to 4K in a $200 bottle.
$200 is a little bit too much.
It's for those even
ones out there, like a Liquor King
two grand,
$2,999. What was that?
It was $2499.
It was three grand, I think.
It's a Woodford Reserve
subspecial
bottle. But it's in aged at least four
months.
See, the only time, in my opinion, to buy
booze like that is
you buy it as a commodity. It's kind of
like buying gold because you want to hold on
to it until you can make
some money on reselling it. Otherwise,
come on, it's retarded to purchase something like
that. You'd have to be
stupid wealthy.
There's a lot of people that aren't.
For the people where $200 is $20,
perfect. This is great for you.
Right?
4K, this one is a rye.
It's not a bourbon.
It's rye whiskey.
I thought you said it was a high rye bourbon, but it's a rye.
It's a rye. It's solid
rye.
I don't have the bottle, I don't have the stats
in front of me.
7-year, rye down
under batch is 16.
This is a 7-year-old Indiana distilled rye whiskey
with a mashable of 95%
rye, which is
high. Crazy high.
I tell you what, I think we always associate
high rye with like spicy
and this and that. This is not.
It is a little spicy, but
not crazy.
We wouldn't like it.
We were like, oh, golf at it.
No, I don't want that rye. We wanted the wheat
was so smooth.
We have nine banded. That's the way to go.
Like life cereal.
That was nasty.
And Noah's mill, super weeded bourbon.
And now that our
palate is being smacked around
by all these different flavors,
the ryes are becoming to be more palatable.
I think we need to venture in
because we're challenged to
find bottles that we're interested
anymore and we need to
get into the ryes. There's some really good ones
out there. There are proof of this.
There's something very unique about this one. It's finished
in
appara. Is that appara? Sherry
Cass? Imported from Australia by
Kelvin Cooperage. What would you say?
Appara?
Sherry Cass.
I mean, that's something very unique
about this bottle is that it's
probably makes it a little bit more sweet.
It's finished in Sherry
Cass. It's got a great taste.
And I personally
like the higher calibered
proofs on these guys
because I want to taste it
extremely raw. I want it to
burn. I want it to taste really good.
And then I want to dumb it down myself.
I want to be able to dumb it down. If I want to add
ice cube, add it.
If I want to add two, I want to add it. I want to bring it
to where I want it. Put some coke in there.
So this is MPP, I believe.
Take it back.
Some sprite, diet
coke. I was surprised that it is
MGP. You know, I figured they would
have their own distilleries. I would say
this. If you are looking to give
someone a gift that
is of a price range that reflects your
appreciation, this one you're not going to regret.
So that's like, the worst
is you spend that and someone hates it.
So this is a good
solid choice.
You know the funny thing about that, you got to make
sure there are either a bourbon or whiskey
fan. Because if you buy this just out of the blue
and they taste it, they're going to be like,
thanks.
You know what I'm saying? It's not
a taste for everyone at all.
Even though it's like super
like it's the cream of the crop for us,
they'll be like, oh my god, this stuff's awful.
So Jeff, you had mentioned
something about, I had brought up
the caramel. It says it's got
some nutty flavors in there.
But you said something. What did you say?
Just in the nose, I picked up the
mint.
That's what you said.
In the nose,
it kind of, you know when you smell
mint, kind of the coolness,
I was kind of picking that up. It was strange.
I've never gotten that on a different bourbon
before or a whiskey.
I didn't get that. That's what reminded me of it.
I mean it could be strategic to mitigate the rye,
right? So I mean that could be a little
bit. Well, let's say you, Mr. Dude
like us, Randy, what's going on in your life
lately? What's the latest
and greatest super deal?
The company
I'm building is doing great.
It's kind of one of those pinch me
pretty great. I'm pretty happy
with that. Trying to stay
cautiously optimistic.
Because you know when things go well, right? Like every movie
the music changes, a shoe drops,
and the plot has to thicken.
So I'm hoping that doesn't happen. But just
having a blast. Really, really
enjoying it. Oh, you travel. At one point
you said you're going to have to do quite a bit of traveling.
Yeah, I am. We're opening our
sixth city in Atlanta next
month. So that's got me on the
road between our five others we've opened in the
last two years.
And what's the
business? Technology
consulting firm. The best way
to explain it is when you go to like the
Star, right? An architect
builds the Cowboys
headquarters and that Starfield and that
Omni Hotel. Well, we're the architect
for all that technology that goes and lives and
breathes in it. So that's our role
on projects for real estate.
Nice. Very nice.
And things, you know,
things have been rebounding
in the last
year. But there's
apparently dark clouds on the horizon is what I'm
hearing. Yeah.
They're talking about recession. They're
talking about things tightening. They're talking about
interest rates skyrocketing.
Shores of food.
I'm hearing all sorts of CEOs come
out and say, you know, it's
coming. It's coming. I always wonder how
much of that is
posturing for the Wall
Street elite to make money off
the reaction to the
rhetoric. Yeah, that's fair. So I think we have to
temper some of that. I also think
recession simply means
three quarters of not growing.
Well, if we've been growing well, it's OK.
It's OK to take a breath every once in a while. We don't have to
sprint 365. Right, right,
right. And I also think for all of us in
Dallas, Texas, especially,
it's we've been one of the
best recession proof areas.
As things get squeezed, they actually flock
to our low cost of living. You've
probably heard today Caterpillar is
relocating their headquarters to Irving
and we now have more from from
California or from where?
North, North Minnesota.
Maybe some Louis, Chicago,
somewhere in the upper Midwest. But we
know we do have that going for sure. We now
have more Fortune 500 headquarters
than even New York and California for the first time.
Wow, I didn't know that. Yeah, as of
this week. But is it just me? I mean, you
guys are you guys hearing so much doom and gloom
like like I haven't seen so much
doom and gloom in a while. I don't know if it's
just the news trying to
beat up Joe Biden
by saying all this stuff. But
you know, the midterms are coming
up. So they're like talking a big game
or something. Or who knows, right? What I look
at are the cost of living
and you know, the gas and how much
things are gone up. I mean,
is it can we handle it?
Yeah, I can handle 10 percent. I can probably
handle 15, 20 percent if it goes up
a little bit more. But that's still
10, 15, 20 percent more than
I paid before
Biden got in office. Yeah, not to
but you know, why? Why
is that? You know, we don't have to answer that.
Oh, yeah. Who knows? It's too complicated.
Heavy, heavy topic right now. But you know what? It doesn't
hurt. It hurts the
it hurts the people that are like
you know, two, you know, a man
and a wife both work in a job
or two and together they're pulling
in, you know,
way less than probably what any
of us make. Right. It kills them.
This kind of inflation
and all that kind of stuff. So not to veer off
into a too big of a mathematical
computation, but
there's no incentive for any
manufacturers to keep going
when there's a
a downtime.
Right. So if you own a manufacturing facility,
shut it down,
don't produce, save your costs.
When the market spins back up, just say
hey, supply chain issues, jack the price up
exorbitantly, recoup your losses
that you didn't have when it was shut down and idle.
Right. Why wouldn't some
I need a Harvard mathematician.
That's what they're doing with the gas, in other words. Right.
We need a Harvard mathematician to go to the critical
supplies needed and say, listen, we're going to give
you a subsidy of X just to produce
Y amount, way below,
so that you don't gouge us on the other side,
which is more than the X.
Well, even before COVID, we were
regarding the gas, using
that as a variable.
We were going to work.
After COVID, we
stayed at home. So we weren't
selling gas. And guess what? After
COVID, the majority
of folks are still at home. So they're
still not paying gas. So the gas companies
out there, they're freaking out.
Because they're not making near as much as
they used to. I don't
know. Well, there's no incentive for them to
keep running the rig at a million
dollar cost a day or whatever it is,
to then have it sit idle in a
and by the way, the refiners can't hold
it. You have to move it. Right. We're in a
just in time supply chain. So
there's some balance there that
makes it, you know, of course, pinch the consumer.
Right. Well, it takes investors to drill
a well. Right. And those investors are holding their
money because they got bit
last time, you know,
if the administration relaxes
some regulations and then
all of a sudden people start investing. Also,
those regulations get tightened up again.
It's going to lock all their money up.
How do you think the investors for the
Keystone pipeline feel?
Case in point, it
takes money to drill and the people that
have the money that invest in this are not
spending it. So they're
holding on to it until who knows
maybe two more years, right, until there's an administration
change potentially or regulation
or policy policy changes.
You know, fuck the ministrations. It's all
about the policies here. Policy that they're strumming
right now with this. Let's get
rid of fossil fuels is come on.
It's just not realistic. No, it's not
at all. You know, maybe
maybe a hundred year plan to get
off the fossil fuels, but not a
you know, five, ten year plan.
Biden's thinking exactly
right. I am interested to see what the
electric vehicle impact is
in a decade, though, at least
we'll see something in our lifetime to see the data.
You mean where we get rid of all the batteries?
Yeah, well, exactly.
What like what is the net and is anyone really
going to analyze the true story and
more importantly, tell it? No, because
they don't acknowledge it now. Yeah.
The folks, I mean, I'd like to have a Tesla
or some kind of like. Yeah, I'm not against them.
I think they're cool shit and everything.
But you're referring to the energy that it takes
to charge it. The whole life cycle.
Right. Right. The whole carbon
footprint, so to speak. But the battery, like
in a Tesla is the entire underside of the car.
It's not like a little 12 volt battery.
So these batteries.
It's not like a thousand double double
A's.
Well, I mean, I talk
about this every other podcast,
but there's that hydroelectrolysis
that they're talking about that is
like floating out. That's never going to happen.
Wow. I mean,
is that a real thing? Have you
heard of it?
That's never going to happen.
They've got videos out there
every single day that show
these these guys that
convert their
God bless that good brain fart motor,
whatever kind of motor is, they convert it
to water and they basically take
these plates, they hook up a battery to the plates
put inside of salt water.
The salt water, the
electrified plates in the
salt water emit the hydrogen
separates it and the hydrogen sucked
into another vessel where
it's vacuumed and then
in return, that's put
into the carburetor and boom.
You got yourself a good...
All of those videos end with a SWAT team
breaking into the house.
Well, I put
there's something
I mean, listen,
the US is, we all
know, behind the rest of the world when it comes
to energy
conservation because we like
capitalism and we like selling as much as we'll consume
and that's not a bad thing or a good thing.
Not stating it either way. I'm just saying
necessity is the mother invention. Well,
other region in the world
have constraints so they do innovate
and they do embrace it more than we do
because we can make money at it. Because we have freedom.
Well, they have like... Freedom of
choice. I saw like in Taiwan
this video and
it was on TikTok granted but still
this dude had a hooptie
little moped and
he had put several little bottles on the side
of it that were filled up with
the solutions they have up there
and he was running his little moped on water
and it showed him
little carton hose. Well, and it was a kit
that you could buy.
If I remember correctly. You sent that to me.
Why isn't this
stuff... I mean,
if we really want to talk about the carbon footprint
I mean, why aren't we doing that?
Oh, we know why guys. The people
who make the money control the
policy. I mean, I'm not mad at them.
Hydrogen...
Look, if they're going to make us
pay eight dollars a gallon or some
folks eight dollars a gallon
then I just
think it's the Department of Energy.
But I don't think there's necessarily a conspiracy
going on there. I think part of the problem
is we cannot appreciate how this
stuff needs to scale.
To imagine
that kind of apparatus running
a diesel truck,
it can't scale.
These energy
experts know
that it takes this much energy,
this much power, this much...
But the EV vehicles can't do it either.
There are no electric trucks yet.
When are they going to come out with
the electric combines
that's going to run your
farms and your tractors?
It's almost more like a gimmick
more than it is something
practical. First off,
what kind of subsidies is Elon Musk getting
to run Tesla? Would it be
profitable if he didn't get these subsidies from the government?
Is he getting subsidies from the government?
Solar panels are getting subsidies
from the government.
Solar companies.
And they went belly up.
So you know what I mean?
I just don't know if the technology
is sustainable. That's my point.
I think the evolution is you prove it,
conceptualize it, but then you're right.
I'll give you an example. One of my college
friends, a company called
Ubiquitous Energy.
Guy from Michigan State
and MIT built a
translucent film
you can apply to any glass
surface. So you look through it like a
window, you don't know the difference. But it immediately
makes it solar
powered.
And so they've been applying it to
smart watches and
small window panes. Well, it's taken them
10 years since they invented it, to
finally do a commercial grade
skyscraper sized
pane of glass. It's taken them that long to apply
it to where it will fit a
16 foot tall by 8 foot pane of glass
you see on a downtown skyscraper. To be practical.
Right. Now, once they get that
right, but took 10 years,
imagine if every building of glass
in your high rise area
was collecting
solar. Well, what if it was?
Let's say we did it.
How much energy is that going to produce?
So it produces
well, you have to read the paper, but
it's got a 0.16 coefficient
blah blah, but it collects
you know, to me, the most
Is it enough to sustain the building?
Or does it still need to pull the
off the grid? Depending on surface area.
Right. And like if it's a
60 story building versus 30 story
versus density of usage, but
to me, I think the people that
I was really encouraged when oil companies
were trying to become those
new energies because then
those greedy monopolistic
power hungry guys could just
profit on the next great thing.
But it didn't seem to happen.
So we need them, we need to appease them
somehow. Like why isn't there a charging station
at every gas station? If I'm a 7-eleven
owner, oh no, I'm cutting
into my gas. No, they have the car anyway.
They're driving by your gas station to get
a charge for your electricity.
They charge 30 cents a KW versus
the 10-12 you get at your house
or whatever. So
there's a way to get there. Right. I read
an article actually today that
about
how to recharge
the electric. Because the big question is
how does your electrical grid nationwide
or statewide support all the
electrical vehicles that people
say are going to be out there? And they
broke it down by kilowatt per hour.
They said, you know, I don't remember
which Tesla it was. The 75
watt or kilowatt
per hour battery that they have.
And they say, and they broke
down, a solar panel typically makes this
much. And they broke it down and says, if you
deplete your battery every day,
you will need 75 solar panels
just to charge
this one car. Wow. Daily.
Daily. Well, and I'm
also expecting the skeptic to say,
what's the carbon
footprint to produce that power
you're plugging into at your house? There you go.
So if we're not nuclear and clean
and we're doing other things, I would expect
some criticism in that model.
It's all natural gas.
Almost undeniably
natural gas. The biggest producer of
the solar panel is China right now.
And I hear that it's extremely
dirty to produce these solar panels.
Oh, wonderful.
Well, and they have no regulations
over there. They can do whatever they want. They can
pollute as much as they want. So I think for those
listening so far, they should pour another drink. We've solved
nothing.
We're not in despair.
I encourage people to
go out there and try to convert those
motors. Well, you said you're going to try to do it.
Well, I
want to build a motor.
Honda Pilot.
I want to take a generator. I want to go buy a couple hundred
dollar generator and
I'm going to see if I can make some modifications.
I can see it now. I can see the headline
in Dallas Morning News.
You see a mushroom cloud at the griffys.
Man trying to build
an impractical engine killed everyone
in the neighborhood. Man jettisoned
200 yards.
Flying man in four directions.
Well, this one guy,
he had
he was powering up his
torches for
welding and the
hydrogen it was producing when he
lit it on fire, it was burning
through cans, aluminum
cans. Just
you know, and you see that
there's a big table and there's nothing
else there and it's
you see it all working. There's a little battery down there
and it's all going down the line and he's got a little thing
and it's
amazing. Yeah, it is. So I'm just like
there's something there and
it frustrates me when we're
talking about all these
challenges. Yeah, these challenges
we have trying to get better gas
prices and stuff when you can make some
simple, hypothetically makes sense. Hypothetically.
Because I mean they got the story back
in the 70s, 80s, in the 80s
where this guy had a little dune buggy. And they
whacked him? Yeah, it's been around for a long time and has gone
zero. And then poisoned him.
Yeah, they whacked him you said. Yeah.
That's what you said. Well, it's a news article.
I mean it was put out that it's exactly
what he said. He was having lunch with his brother
and his brother went out, they've poisoned
the guy was like, they poisoned me, they
poisoned me. Wow.
And he runs out of the restaurant and
that's why you shouldn't make this little motor.
That's exactly why I should.
Because you guys will know.
Well, we're also a little bit biased
that we even talk relevant about solar
and wind power based on where we are.
There are some parts of the country that have
no sun and no wind. They're like, what are we even
talking about? Right.
Oh, they're screwed. Right.
With all these EPA regulations and everything
else they want to do, they're going to be in the dark
for months. Well, that's the thing. You mentioned
this new glass treatment.
But what happens
in some po-dunk
small town? Hey, where I grew up there's 65
days of direct sunshine a day. That's
300 a year, I mean, that are not.
Right. I mean, you would do nothing there.
And if you get next to no wind,
like we're spoiled. The
Sunbelt region from
the Carolinas over to
Arizona just have a different
opportunity.
Right. So I think the
only practical solution is something you brought up
before, Jeff. You have to require
in an office building, you require all of your employees
to pedal all day long.
That's what Jeff said.
Oh, is that you?
No, that was Jeff. Jeff's like,
let's open a gym. If there's
15,000 people pedaling. We'll do a thousand cycles.
And we're going to collect the energy.
Say, hey, you know what? We have a free gym.
Free gym. You guys want to come out to the gym? It's free.
And you do that in your office building.
It's cycle hour 24-7.
And all you got to do, and we'll see how much that adds to the grid.
Now, think about it.
If you don't generate 37 kilowatts,
you get fired.
You get spied on.
Well, I mean, can you imagine?
I mean, how much would it produce though?
You all get in shape too.
Because from what I understand, based on
the little generator
you hook onto your tire
and you run it up to your handlebars
with the little light and you
turn it on at night.
And you go as fast as you can, and
the little light's getting brighter.
Is it enough? And then you get tired
and it goes out.
Is it like a two watt light bulb?
And then you're like crashing into shit.
You go regular speed, it's all dim, you can barely see it.
Well, you could build those things to create more power, right?
The generator is better.
So anyway, I think that's a novel idea.
It's really the only solution, Jeff.
It's the only...
It's the thing that's going to save humanity.
Well, all the bikes and all those gyms.
Just network it, boom.
Stick it into some kind of storage thing.
I do believe the gym at my
college is powered by the gym.
Oh, stop it. I do believe that.
Stop it. Yeah.
No it is not. But again, small footprint.
Small footprint. You would need a DC to
AC converter and then go back
from AC to DC again.
How crazy would one light bulb be?
Do they have one light bulb in that gym?
And the loss switching it twice, right?
The electrical loss and the switching.
What do they call that?
The loss. Okay, here's a great idea.
You know, just like there's a
one cup for all Division I schools.
Like they compete to win the overall
championship across all sports.
They ought to do one for electrical
output through their gym-amomimeter.
There you go.
You got athletes up there running, we got to win the cup.
Okay, we could
gimmick this. What if we create little
tiny generators in every faucet so when
the water runs through it...
There you go. Like a water wheel.
A water wheel.
That'd be enough to power... You know how many faucets there are
in the United States of America?
Alright, another one pretty out there.
It was a Matrix
movie inspired.
You know those icy hot patches you can
put on your back? Imagine if
that was a
power collector and all day
the BTU's you kick off as a human. You come
home and you slap that on a console and
that contributes to powering your house.
We've already talked about capturing methane.
Okay.
Another idea.
We could put a hydro wheel
on his butthole.
That wasn't the idea.
Think about it. All your employees
you're feeding them beans.
They're on a bicycle.
They've got an ash mask.
An ash mask.
You got a sweatshop somewhere?
All these cows you put something over their blood cap
to capture the methane. Humans. While they're peddling.
Cows produce so much more.
Is methane dense or
is it float up? It floats because they
feed it to the greenhouse gases.
So you have to capture it.
Interesting.
That was really a sad day when you actually
found an article that talked about a
cow ash mask.
Makes you think about grass.
That's all they eat.
Maybe we need to
start eating grass.
If you were to take a hot air balloon
hypothetically and a
hose and float
it straight up in the air.
Let's say you get to that area where the methane gas is.
What if
you get it up to that area and you start sucking down
that methane gas?
Make like a methane tornado.
What? Tornado?
No, no, no. I'm just saying
get the balloon to the
elevation to where that gas is.
Because it's all in these little
pockets the higher you get.
The stratosphere.
So get up to that area and then just start
sucking in.
Instead of deep sea drilling we're going
high air drilling. Smart.
How clean is that?
Is there really a layer of methane
that's up there? Evidently the
hydrocarbons are up there.
Is that the same thing? The methane? The fart gas?
And you know we have the nano carbon
technology that can build little tubes that
literally can bend without breaking as the
earth spins and rotates.
We just have a really ugly sky
but maybe it is now to some people.
We talked about
those elevators to the moon.
To the space station, right?
You never heard about the elevators?
Of course I have.
We're blowing Paul's mind right now.
Very practical.
I think we're worth the $200.
Paul, I don't know.
Yeah, I'm going to lose this competition.
Good Lord.
I'm going to build like, you know what I
wanted to build? You know those little balls
that you go back and forth?
What if you build one that's
humongous
and it just sits there and creates energy?
Right? Somehow it's connected to a
generator and it never stops.
It just goes click, click, click
but it's like boom, boom, boom.
And it just somehow generates
energy. Somehow. At least mine
I'm telling you how it will.
Anything that
moves you can connect some sort of wheel to it.
We did not establish
the brainstorming rules of there's no criticism
and brainstorming. Yeah, thanks a lot.
I'm just going because
he jumped out my shit so hard
about all my ideas. Paul's like
that's stupid. You're an idiot.
I never said that.
Mine's a giant ball rocker idea.
Good Lord.
Can you imagine how loud that would be?
It would be like you would need your
ear.
Boom.
But it never stops.
Does it ever stop? I guess it slows down.
It does eventually. Well then you
start it again.
Yeah, but the energy to pull that ball back.
Then
the other thing I was thinking, what if you made
this gigantic thing that you spin
it up, right? And it's like a big rubber band.
Right? And then it unwinds
and when it unwinds it spins up again
and it unwinds again and
it just keeps going back and forth.
It makes energy forever. Is that called potential energy?
No, it does not. Yes, it does.
It is. But there is one thing.
There is in the Smithsonian
there is a pendulum
that never stops. There we go.
I'm assuming that's due to
gravitational pull. Correct. So there's a free energy
from the cosmos. Correct. So it's
in the Smithsonian. Okay. And it's
the string is, I don't know, three stories
and you're all the way down to the bottom. It's this huge ball.
Yes. And it tells
I don't know if it tells the time or something like that
but it's forever moving.
Attach a wheel to it and you can make
energy. We might get a kilowatt
a day or something. Well, that's interesting.
That's more than me on a bike.
About a thousand bikes.
Powerhouse.
Thousand kilowatts. You just
charged your Tesla. See all these people
stressing about energy production and all that kind of shit.
We literally just came up with brilliant ideas.
We solved it. We solved the Green New Deal.
I'm so glad NASA lists us in. They're going to take
all our ideas. They are.
Contribution to society. This is our
giving back. This is the way we give back.
As long as you know at the bottom of all those
great science articles
there's a citation that's like
100 long of who they're crediting. Just put
dudes like us on there.
In Spanish. And maybe Four Gates.
It's a time stamp.
Four Gate dudes like us.
I'm scared to death. Four Gate inspired
someone is going to actually try
to attempt to make some sort of connection
with the moon and the earth.
I'm scared to death that anyone messes with the moon.
Do you see that movie
Moonfall? You would like that.
No, I haven't watched it yet. I've never even heard of it.
It's got the appropriate amount of
science with an action movie.
You'll enjoy it. Is it new?
It's on Netflix or something.
I think it's the same guy who did Independence Day.
Right?
Moonfall.
I'm excited. I love shit like that.
It is good.
I love stuff like that.
I'm definitely going to pay attention to this one.
It's brand new.
He's from Game of Thrones.
Roland Emmerich. He did Independence Day.
The idea of what I'm talking about
is how the moon has so much
control over the earth.
It's gravitational pull.
If we start going up there and fucking with things.
Did you say it rings like a bell?
Yeah.
We don't have the technology
to move that thing.
We don't. What do you mean?
You cannot move the moon.
Is that what you're worried about? Like pushing it out?
No. Just doing anything. Going up there
drilling in it. Fucking with it.
I love this movie.
Accidentally breaking it in half?
Look, the movie basically...
The secret of life in
how we even exist is through polarity
and magnetism.
Plants grow and water moves.
I get it. Did you say Halle Berry
was in this movie? Yeah.
And Elsa has her. She's great.
When When You?
Don't get me wrong, Sean.
That's normally when I yell when I'm drunk and mad.
I go, When When You Did The Thing!
When When You!
Yeah, I didn't mean to cut you off, Sean,
but Halle Berry is a little more important than what you were talking about.
We Too Low?
When When You!
Alright, so Moonfall.
It's 2022.
I love it. That's great.
I haven't seen it. Have you seen it?
I have. You'll enjoy it.
Michael Pena is funny, but he's kind of liberal,
but that's okay.
But Halle Berry is in it.
As long as they don't talk about their opinions on stuff.
I mean, just shut the fuck up and play it.
No, no, that's good. I enjoy it.
Oh, yeah, yeah, like a woke movie, you mean?
Yeah. Yeah.
You know what? I'm starting to just blow past that stuff.
I do catch it in movies. I catch it in TV shows.
I just blow past it.
Like everyone else, Shelley and I will look at each other
and we'll be like, really?
I know, but man, there was one movie,
there was one show we were watching that took a
direct shot at Christianity.
She and I were like, okay, really?
Like, wow.
Anyway, yeah, there's definitely wokenists.
Well, Ricky Gervais came out with a new comedy.
I watched that.
And he fucks with, I mean, he kind of uniformly
fucks with everybody.
See, and I can respect that.
But he took some good pot shots at Christianity.
Well, he says that he's either an atheist or agnostic.
I can't remember. But it's funny.
You need to watch it. My wife and I were down there
cackling at it. He picks fun at everybody.
I have respect for somebody that he's a comedian
and he is very vocal about they should have
no rules for comedians.
That's basically what this show is about.
He calls that out.
That's not me saying this. This is my sarcasm.
He kind of launches it out.
He goes, I'm going to say some things and it's not
going to be me. It's going to be this comedian
over here kind of saying it.
To make people laugh, think and laugh, right?
Okay, I like it if the boundaries are set.
One that I've never really been a fan of is John Stewart.
Because I think he goes, he'll start comedic,
but then he goes over the line like he's coming from
a point of research and intelligence.
Then as soon as people come back at him, he goes,
hey, I was just kidding. I'm a comedian.
He's pushing an agenda.
I'm like, you can't glove and then pass them like...
Do you have an example of that? Do you remember?
Do you mean an agenda, like a political agenda
or like a social agenda?
He'll cross the line from being a comedian
to then being, I want to extol some virtues and ideologies
and be serious and be taken serious.
And then as soon as people push back,
he puts back on the comedian coat.
I'm like, no, you've got to wear one or the other.
Part of one of the toe tails he rides on is the 9-11 stuff.
He pushes for a lot of...
He sat up in front of Congress.
Oh, for the firefighters' families.
I think he gets that from being on The Daily Show.
Is that what he was to John Stewart?
A lot of those guys are funny and smart.
Just stay there, though.
Yes, I agree with you.
It's like the methane gas.
Or when you cross over,
if someone batters your eyes shut with a really good debate,
don't go back into the, I was just kidding,
go, yep, you got me.
I moved over, I moved over a lane,
and you got me.
You're right about that.
What do you think about Bill Maher?
Is he another one?
I tell you what, he's been coming out
and saying some pretty rational things.
I think he stays more in it.
Maybe it's his delivery.
It seems to be ringing with sarcasm to me
that it's a little bit less.
I'm just impressed that he's asking challenging questions
that people don't ask.
He is now.
He wasn't riding that train,
the Democrat propaganda train.
Now he's real-life stuff.
I think he's a true blue dog Democrat,
which is the difference
than what a lot of the progressives are these days.
He doesn't tail that line.
He's the old-school Democrat.
He's like, yeah, they're not what Democrats stand for.
They've gone too far.
He's objective enough to step back and go,
really? Are we sure?
Why are we doing that?
And I can respect that.
Anybody should be able to step back
from whatever view they have and go,
let's just think practically,
let's think objectively to some degree,
and go, is that really the right answer?
Well, not only do I respect it,
I crave deeper thinking,
because too many are not doing it.
Yeah, they're just regurgitating talking points, right?
And I think no matter what exchange happened,
heated, disappointing, disagreeing,
if people can ground themselves on a couple perspectives I use,
one is out of eight billion people,
no one's exactly like me.
No one.
Thank God. I'm kidding.
Exactly. Amen to that.
But we all have, there's no ingredients
that are exactly the same.
It's just how insignificant you are.
I mean, how many people in your life,
we might meet a thousand, two thousand in our life,
that's scary to think it's that low,
but genuinely meet and interact with,
and then you've probably got one tenth of that
that really you matter to.
So if you go with Maslow's law of neuroscience of human,
you need to feel safe belonging and mattering.
We're just not that important,
so let's calm it down.
People are gonna go live their life a different way,
and it's okay.
Well, but this podcast is different, of course.
We reach millions.
And they're all in Ireland.
Yes, the Irish.
God bless you.
I thought it was kind of exciting.
I looked today at, there's a new analytics tool on the RSS feed,
and it shows the locations of our listeners,
and I was excited.
There's one, I don't know if it's one person or what,
but there's about 60 different listens in Dublin,
and the other one was, what's Belgium?
Brussels.
So there's some Brussels, San Francisco,
and a few other cities here in the U.S.
So we have to learn Irish.
Sean speaks Irish.
The trick to speaking Irish is just sing when you talk.
That's all you have to do is sing when you talk.
We hand made that bear over there.
I can do that?
That's all you have to do.
You did a much better job than I did.
Sean, learn Gaelic.
He's a Gaelic.
I would actually like to, come on.
I'd really like to know from those in Dublin who did sign on,
did they do it intentionally or one too many Guinness?
I mean, it's an honest question.
Yeah, it's fair, but we are officially international.
You guys are international.
We're international.
I'm struggling to control this growth.
I don't know about you guys.
It's happening so fast.
We're at year three.
We're in year four.
We've got to get our coffee shop down.
Our hobbies, I mean,
we're committed to the CNC machine,
which by the way, we've got to get that.
I looked out in the garage.
And I saw that.
It's collecting dust out there.
It will be used.
We've got these little roadblocks in front of it.
Once those roadblocks are gone,
we can go over there and install the cabter right now.
So, Randy,
what we're talking about is up at a
filtered coffee shop at downtown McKinney.
We've got opportunity to sell our stuff there.
So we built this stuff, a cabinet,
that's got the word filtered on it,
where we could put our stuff.
And so we had to, we connected to the refrigerator,
but before we could connect to the refrigerator.
Oh, this was a disaster.
Oh my.
Of epic proportions.
How did it, what'd I say?
It wasn't my fault.
Unbelievable.
Right, right.
So we get there, Paul's already seasoned.
No, no, no, no.
No, you are well seasoned.
Do not start that story like that.
Okay, you know what?
That's flat out not true.
But it was true.
It wasn't true, I wasn't seasoned.
You said you had two bourbons.
Okay, no, that was not seasoned.
That implies that I was like,
hey, come on, let's work.
All right, so Paul had two of what he calls bourbons.
Oh, that is outrageous.
Oh, all right.
Which is gloss over that little area.
Yeah, let's move on.
So we arrive at filtered, the place is closed.
And the goal is.
Thank goodness.
When the refrigerator arrived two years ago,
three years ago, whatever it was, it was on a pallet.
All right, so this refrigerator's like 32 inches
by 32 inches-ish, and about six foot, seven foot tall.
And it's on a pallet.
It's been sitting there forever.
It's plugged in, in the front.
We don't give a shit.
It's just been there.
For our cabinet to work, we need to put it on wheels.
So we had to, step number one,
we gotta remove the pallet and then figure out.
No, no, no, step number one's removing everything
in the refrigerator.
So we get there and Paul's like, all right,
Paul's like, immediately takes charge.
Yeah, because I seasoned or sauced or blown up
or shit faced, whatever you think I was.
Anyway, keep going, please.
Oh, wow, micromanager.
For the listeners, for the mental image,
there's just three of you, right?
So we can already start.
Oh my God.
You can be thankful you were not part of this.
The tables.
Be very thankful.
Paul pulls over the table.
He starts pulling stuff out.
Look, he wasn't doing anything wrong.
He was doing stuff.
I mean, I would personally put him on the bench.
Oh my God.
Whatever.
So he's putting these beer bottles on this table
that was obviously precarious.
No, it was not at all.
Yeah, it was.
It became precarious.
Seemingly precarious.
It became precarious.
It was completely stable until another table
was brought over by Jeff.
The end result is that we had a table full of bottles
that lost its stability.
And it was starting to fall down.
One leg went away, so it completely spilled.
There was an avalanche of glass bottles.
I saved their lives.
You did.
All but six or seven.
No, four.
We lost four beers.
And I saved 28 of them.
Can you describe the move?
Did you slide in on your back, butterfly your shirt?
Or what did this look like?
What did I do?
He just did like a big bear hug.
I just, yeah, I did like a bear hug.
And for those who can't see, Paul is gangly and orangutany.
Those arms came in perfect hand.
And Sean was like, mama, hold me.
Sean just walked away.
I brought those beers into my bosom.
That's what you do in a panic situation.
He just walked away.
He said, unbelievable, walked away.
Yeah, but OK.
And Paul and I are up there recovering.
What you're not saying is I went to go get tools to fix it.
I went and got the mop bucket, the mop.
I got a fan.
A bottle opener.
I went to go get the tools.
I did get a bottle opener because we drank some.
Amen.
As I'm mama, as I'm mama bearing these beers that
are all teetering, there's ones that are like upside down,
about to slip through my arms.
And I'm like struggling to hold the table up because it's now,
it's like the fricking Titanic.
My fast response.
It's ass is up in the air.
My fast twitch muscles reacted and pulled those out.
Yeah, it did.
But while I'm doing all this, all I hear is, unbelievable.
Great soundtrack.
No, yeah, no, no.
Hold the table.
I'm on my way.
Let me save.
I got it.
I got you.
I got some help here.
Nothing, nothing like that.
Where was the Superman theme music?
Instead, it's Lex Luthor going, unbelievable.
Unbelievable.
You assholes.
It was comical because we were sitting there.
We haven't even really started yet.
We haven't even started.
Well, that's the problem.
He needed to be seasoned.
He was foul already.
There was so much beer on the floor and broken glass.
Broken glass.
And I was just like, what the fuck else could do?
I mean, this is like a worst case scenario.
The funny thing is, on the way up there,
we're like, this should be a very fast process.
And Sean's like, something always goes wrong.
And I was like, no, get in, get out.
Get in, get out.
We'll be done in 10 minutes.
No, it took us what?
And that's why I was like immediately
sprung into action.
I was like, OK, let's pile up all this stuff on the table.
And what I didn't know is that the way the tables are designed,
there's like three that are stable legs and one that's
like a fun little flippy.
Hold on.
It's like a flippy leg.
You're saying it wrong.
So the tables were made out of gas pipe.
And they weren't welded.
So they swiveled.
Which is a really good design, I feel.
Now, it needed to be welded.
I said that from the beginning.
But sometimes, you know what, just.
You didn't fight that battle.
So we cleaned up.
Did you design those?
No, I did not.
I did not.
I built the tabletops, but I did not design the things.
But moving on, what we ended up doing is we cleaned up the mess.
We emptied it out.
We took the pallet out because we moved it over.
Unscrewed the bolt.
The wheels that I had purchased for it
didn't have the correct size.
Nice.
Yeah.
Great.
So.
I could have told you that was coming.
Yeah.
Who knows?
You never know.
You pull it out.
So after we take one of the bolts,
we take it to go to Harbor Freight, and we replace it.
We got the wheels.
So now we just have to go back and do it.
Right.
But I'm skipping the whole fact that we
went to the KELT after that.
Love that place.
Went to the KELT.
You did skip a step.
There were some beers that had been improperly shaken.
So we went ahead and knocked out some of those.
Well, they had laying them around and bounced.
So we went ahead and took it with the team.
Conscientious.
Very good.
And we gave it a dignified death down our throat.
I only had half a beer.
I mean, you had like six each, right?
I had seven.
I had.
You guys can remember?
I had two.
That's impressive.
And then we went to the KELT.
Look, Randy, honestly.
And it went all downhill from there.
Oh my god.
We had probably two beers there.
And Jeff had one.
I said, you can only have one because you're drunk.
Well, I drove.
Right.
So the thought was in good spirit.
But it was just bullshit.
We get to the KELT and fucked that all up.
And that's what we love about the Irish.
I mean, does anyone hate the Irish?
Well, Jeff, well, Paul does.
No.
He's an asshole.
Whoa.
You called the bartender an asshole.
Yeah, you got into it with the bartender.
Sure I didn't.
Yes, you did.
Because you were well seasoned.
No, I did not.
I said one comment to him.
Yeah, well, the bartender came to me.
And he didn't hear me anyway.
The bartender came to me.
He was like, are you guys, you talking shit about me?
And I was like, I had no idea what the fuck he
was talking about.
Because I'm on the other side of the pole.
Because we're right on the corner of the bar.
So you guys were having a lot of conversations
that I didn't understand what the fuck was going on.
Yeah, I wasn't even talking to him.
I was talking to that couple right there.
Yeah.
So have you sat at the areola table at the KELT?
Those high tops against the wall?
There's one with a good framed photo.
Areola?
Yeah.
Oh.
Let's go.
Is that the area around a woman's nipple?
I mean, if you need to translate, yes.
Huh.
Yeah, it was good.
It was scientific.
It was abstract, too.
It had a touch of class and art to it.
Yeah, I encourage you.
It's probably.
To do the stage?
Is it like a Moon Pie table?
No, it's probably seven back from the stage.
So it's almost centered on the bar.
Centered to the back.
That's about where we were at.
Yeah, it's memorable.
Hmm.
It was classy.
Somehow we missed that.
It was on the table or on the wall?
No, it's a picture on the wall.
Of a zoomed in areola.
And I called it out and one of our friends runs a band
and they sing at the kelt all the time.
And he promised to drop Areola into his between song
soliloquies.
And he did fantastic with that.
That's nice.
Interesting.
I think it's funny when you zoom into something
where it's not quite recognizable.
And you're just like, is it?
Just like because there's some pictures out there
where they zoom in on the iris of the eyeball.
Have you seen that photography?
It looks nothing like an eyeball, but it's fascinating.
Because you could see all the detail.
So what did you think it was before it zoomed out?
An elephant vag.
I couldn't tell.
It looked alien to me.
Like a freaking matrix or something?
Yeah.
I thought you were going to go with elephant vag, personally.
Elephant vag, yes.
OK, so since he went there on the bed, I'll tell you one,
zoomed in, it looked like a really nice.
A really nice.
Woman's upper torso.
And then you zoom out, and it's like a 65-year-old man
with the biggest side zit.
And they start squeezing out oodles and oodles
of cottage cheese.
Oh, come on.
Cottage cheese.
I mean, it's that or turned to milk.
Look at that.
There are these little TikTok videos.
That's an eyeball.
I can't watch that shit.
Zoomed way in.
He's getting queasy.
It's gross.
What's gross?
That's your eye.
It's crazy.
I just don't want it.
No, no, no, no.
I'm talking about the cottage cheese.
I only watched that once.
So these aren't zoomed in quite the way.
Yeah, I thought it was going to go way in.
Yeah, the ones I've seen of are way in.
I'm trying to understand this.
You guys are talking about there's
videos of them popping pimples that looks like cottage cheese?
This is the paint engine.
Maybe it's ridiculously extreme.
What are you saying?
I feel like we're going to show up filtered
and empty the refrigerator again.
Really?
I want to be in it.
That's great.
Yeah, there's ones that are just.
Look at that purple one.
I mean, you could see the curve in everything.
Like that one there, you can kind of see it.
Anyway, I think it's fascinating.
The first time I saw it, I was amazed.
Well, eyes are fascinating.
They are.
I mean, just the fact that they work on their own
and the way the pupils are, the way
the iris allows the pupils to open and close automatically.
And the fact that you can rub your eyes
and you've got this constellation of color.
And it's just, you know, you can fix.
You can see in the dark.
And then you get your.
I mean, we're so resilient as human beings.
It's amazing.
The human body is beyond amazing.
Beyond amazing.
The human eye zoomed in a photo battle.
So look at that.
Well, that's fascinating.
Anyway, probably need to take a link next time.
It almost looks like a colored hurricane from space, doesn't it?
That's a catacomb looking kind of thing.
It could be.
It looked like the eye of the storm.
You know what I'm talking about?
A space tornado.
The pictures that I saw when I first saw it,
you didn't see the eyelashes.
You didn't see any part of the eye.
It was just that.
You're just like, what is that?
Right.
Oh, so you saw the whole iris.
Yeah, it was just, you couldn't tell it was an eye.
And I was just like, what the hell is that?
I think the Google search should be like atomic level or atom
level.
Right.
Well, this is Duck Duck Go, so Google may be better.
Yeah.
Well, for certain things.
We choose Duck Duck Go because of the safety of it.
We're not being trapped.
It's the political stuff that we always try to hide from us.
All right, so I like this track security thought.
I'll bring up a topic we can pivot if you don't like it.
Smart TVs listening to us.
Do they?
Does it care?
Do you care?
Are you worried?
What do you think?
Well, it's no different than Alexa, right?
Right, right.
So does that stuff bother any of you?
Well, it bothers Jeff.
It bothers me.
OK.
But hold on.
I'll go back to the TV.
TVs listen.
Oh, yeah.
That's how they caught the bombers for the Boston
Marathon.
I didn't know they had microphones on the TVs.
What?
That's how they caught the bombers?
Why would they have microphones in a TV?
I didn't make them.
I don't know.
Is that verified?
Did they ever come out officially and said that?
I'm not going to state it's verified, but that's what I'm
meant to believe.
I mean, because microphones aren't very expensive.
I mean, you could probably say.
I think it's amazing.
The fact that, remember when ethernet cables,
ethernet jacks, RJ45s started populating
on the back of these TVs?
How incredible was that?
You're like, wow.
Well, so I'll go first in case Jeff doesn't.
I actually have no worry, and here's why.
For people that are worried about Big Brother
and they're listening in, I'm like,
whatever we're doing in our lives
is so tame and below the threat level.
Right.
You're afraid they're going to hear what you say
to your sexual partner, and they're going to be like, no.
Ratchet it up 10 levels.
If you're like, yeah, I shot a dog today,
still doesn't hit their level.
There's some really bad stuff you'd have to do to get to them.
To get on some sort of radar.
I beat up five guys and I didn't call the cops.
They're still not coming after you.
It's got to be like, so if you're a normal person,
they don't care about.
Well, what triggers them to listen?
Oh, you know, they have AI.
I think there's key words, right?
Key words, right.
So if we're just sitting around screwing around,
and we're just like, yeah, man, kill Biden
or something like that.
Bomb, bomb, yeah.
Boom, all right, now they're listening.
OK, but now they have the software
to then hear what the rest we do.
Oh, did you buy the guns today?
Like, there's a waste.
And then we're talking about,
we're just talking about the 300 bullets I got today.
If you're trying to build a bomb,
then they've got vocabulary that's associated
with building bombs.
And by the way, if they came to your door and said,
are you planning to do that stuff
and you're not doing any of that,
you'll probably have a pretty civil exchange.
Right.
Go on their way.
Now, if you're like, screw you, man,
you can't come into my house,
which I never understand those people either.
Like, why would you not just comply and let's get on?
They're doing their job, right?
But it's like.
What I recommend, what I recommend is saying,
I'm not, but Sean probably is.
That's what I recommend.
Go listen to dudes like us.
I don't care.
He lives right down the street.
I have, I enjoy using Alexa apps.
I enjoy using smart technology as much as possible.
If I can get, if I can say Alexa, wipe my butt,
I probably would.
Also, I would tell you another thing.
I probably have tried that.
I would also tell you that,
let's just say my natural behavior prompted one visit a year
from a high level government group.
And I found it slightly offensive, right?
But let's just say it took two hours
and it was inconvenient and I felt a little bit insulted
because I'm a good citizen.
Good human.
If that stopped.
The rest of the visits?
A hundred bad things of mass shootings and bombings.
I'd be like, fine, sign me up for it.
Yeah, but are we.
I'm just not worried about it.
But are we too willing to give up our freedoms, right?
To be, to be.
But what, I understand what you're saying.
But what freedom have I,
what freedom is I giving up?
Exactly, I'm more in line with what you're saying.
I am too.
If you have nothing to hide and you're doing nothing wrong.
What are you, Jeff?
Well, I think some of the things that I hear about is,
you know, I heard that, again, these are rare,
but it happens, right?
You know, they're.
Your dad's listening.
A couple is talking about their boss or something like that
or their father-in-law.
Then all of a sudden it gets recorded,
it's sent to all the contacts as a.
Oh, I've never heard that.
Yeah, that's happened.
And this.
Okay, that's a problem.
That's a huge problem.
Totally agree with that.
So those type of things,
I don't want Amazon listening to me.
You know, if the government is,
whether they are or not, you know,
that's one thing because we all carry cell phones.
Oh yeah, that's doing it too.
If we all talked about Cancun right now,
when we took a break, we'd all have an ad for it.
Great.
Happens every time.
And it drives me nuts.
Why, I don't know.
You know, I don't want to be, you know, one of the things.
So maybe we need to say dudes like us a lot.
A lot.
You know, just dudes like us need to keep talking.
Hey dude like us.
Dudes like us.
I mean, for instance, I was at work.
This dude like you.
Researching some things at work.
I come home on my personal computer
and ads for high level servers
and networking stuff start popping up.
That's not what it was.
It was porn, but okay.
It was.
It was porn.
I was searching big areolas.
Big areolas.
It was obese porn.
Tip from a friend.
Yeah, so.
Justthetip.com.
Yeah, justthetip, obese porn.
That was 10 years ago, right?
And you know, I noticed that it linked my work
to my personal computer.
Right.
And I didn't appreciate that.
I didn't like that.
I get it.
At all.
I get it.
So that's when I kind of started, no.
I've lightened up on it.
Julie talked me into getting Alexa downstairs.
Sonos has a new guy on their speakers.
It's not Alexa.
It's not Siri.
It's Alex, eh?
It's Bob.
It's Bruce.
And uh, Bruce.
Hi, Bruce.
But you know, I'm in my office.
I'm in my office.
Bruce, could you play Fleetwood now?
By the way, to be properly diverse,
there should be voices like that for everybody.
But it's a guy.
This is the first guy.
It's Serge.
First guy that I've heard.
And it's.
I'm Serge, yo.
And I say, hey, Sonos, play this.
Hey, Sonos, pause.
Hey, Sonos, next.
And it's a guy who speaks.
And it's kind of disoriented
because it's always been a female voice.
And now it's a guy's voice.
That's coming back saying.
I want like Snoop.
I don't know.
Yo, motherfucker, what's up?
Or Reggie.
What's that Jackson guy's name?
That says motherfucker.
Samuel Jackson.
Hey, motherfucker, I said turn left at the next light.
Or if you want a Conor McGregor Irish or whatever.
Like just let's have that adaptability.
I like that idea.
Gabriel Jackson.
Hey, play it.
Hell no.
What's wrong with you?
He's stupid, motherfucker.
Right.
But I've caved in some, you know,
in talking to Sean, he makes me realize
I carry a phone around all day.
He's listening.
Yeah.
And but I don't want, I don't know.
It just seems deeper.
Maybe it's because it's Amazon.
Hold on.
So here's what, okay.
So your number one concern was that you could be recorded
talking shit about somebody and then they can send it out.
So now that makes me wonder,
how much shit are you talking about everybody?
About Sean.
All of us talk shit about our families, right?
Okay.
All of us do.
I've never done that before.
I have no idea what you're talking about.
My guess is if they heard it,
they probably would believe it and go, yeah, okay.
We knew you would.
That could be, that could be.
We've all talked shit about that.
That's a deep fake.
And maybe it's a bridge to a deeper understanding
with that loved one that needed to happen.
Yeah.
It's a blessing in disguise.
Could be, but you know, I don't like-
Buildingbridges.com.
I don't like my nest either.
And you know, I don't like the fact that my power company
can tap in and change my thermostat.
Okay, I agree with that.
Like let me control my domain.
If you want to observe it, fine, but not impact it.
Right, and I totally disagree with the insurance things
you plug into car who read to measure how fast you go,
how quickly you stop.
Did you get-
They're trying to socially engineer us.
I actually like that one because I'm money motivated.
So I'll just chill a little bit to like,
I love getting 90 bucks back or whatever.
It's kind of a black box on the back of the airplane.
You don't have to do it as the point.
Yeah, exactly.
If you have speed, they don't increase.
But here's the thing.
Well, if I drive 118 miles an hour to Walmart
and park sideways in the parking lot,
I don't want to be dinged for that.
No, they won't.
Look on your agreement stuff.
It'll say if you go above, you don't get increases.
It's just to reward safe.
And that was probably a legislation they had to do.
Maybe for now.
They're gonna change it.
Cause they're trying to socially engineer us.
I think, I agree.
I think there's gonna be all kinds of accountabilities
that are gonna start happening from these new apps.
It's already happening in China.
Interesting, you think they'll be?
Yeah, they have a social score in China.
I bet they do.
You think they'll be social accountabilities.
Are you kidding me?
No.
Is that why these guys are jumping off balconies?
There's probably multiple reasons why they're doing that.
But no, they seriously, they've talked about social scores.
Where if somebody, like if you're rude to somebody
and somebody thumbs down you, you know what I mean?
You get a five star, four star review.
There are movies about this.
As a human.
Yes, China's starting to do that.
It's a social score.
So if you are being pleasant and you're being this
and you're being bad, you're gonna do great.
I mean, they're trying to socially engineer us
to be perfect humans.
The word is social, it is socialism.
Absolutely.
So, it's a real thing.
The problem is the optimist in me
kinda likes it.
Because most people are too-
You want people to be drones?
No, no, most people are too lazy and they'll fuck up
and I'll go make more money than anyone else
because I'll work hard enough to be nice all the fucking time.
Very quick separation, right?
Absolutely, absolutely.
If it was voted on that, just send me the check.
But I always say what are the rules?
Tell me and I'll go win.
But I hope we don't go there.
It's a dangerous slippery slope.
I'm sure you guys have talked, by the way,
for all the listeners, I'm a rogue visitor.
These guys are the power horse
that have made them international.
I do, I actually-
International.
I like this, we are international stars.
I actually do wanna say cue the harp music.
For anyone feeling-
Dude, we're gonna have centerfold pictures.
For anyone feeling defeated-
I'm gonna be spatchcocked.
For anyone feeling defeated
and you can't achieve your goals,
the dudes like us said,
listen, we're gonna build a podcast,
we're gonna cover the US,
we're gonna hit Brussels and Ireland
and they fucking nailed it.
We did.
That actually was our first goal.
I mean, that was slide one
on the World Domination presentation
and these guys did it.
So set your mind to a goal, you can accomplish it.
You have any idea what we're paying those two guys?
Yeah.
A lot of Guinness.
A lot, a lot.
No, so I'm sure you guys did this topic,
if we can, we don't go on it,
but the whole metaverse stuff.
We haven't talked, we did a little bit.
You talk about the virtual world where, oh my God.
Like you go home and you slap on goggles.
It's the bastardization of WALL-E, right?
WALL-E, remember that movie?
What a great movie about the future.
It is, but there's been multiple movies like that.
I'm vastly against the whole metaverse.
Totally, totally.
What's crazy is they are buying real estate in this world.
They're building, they're buying artwork.
Austin just made a face.
What's going on over there?
He thinks we're wrong.
He's young.
Is Austin a big?
Snoop Dogg bought some major stake in it
where he bought this whole community.
Yeah, people are-
It was centrally based, so that was one of the first things.
It's like Snoop Town or something, right?
Aren't people like-
Crazy.
There's gonna be the rich people in there.
There's gonna be the rich people in this as well.
Right, it's just a way for them to get in early,
control us, not only in the real world,
but in the digital world.
And the digital world, they spend money too.
No, listen, humans are gonna come home from their job,
they're gonna put on this goggles,
and then they're gonna spend their real money
to buy fake sneakers for their avatar.
Yes, and actually at some point-
What the?
Guys, I mean, I like trends and innovation,
but I'm not on this.
So the Matrix, remember with the battery scene?
We're just humans, they breed humans for electricity.
They're now just breeding us to siphon our money.
It's crazy.
100 years from now,
they're not gonna be coming back from a job.
Our job is going to be in there.
I gotta put on my avatar and go-
It's gonna be in there.
Work in the metaverse.
Yeah, no, no, no, we're gonna be laying in a chair,
connected 24 seven.
Like an avatar, yeah.
And that's our work.
And you know what, I don't wanna control.
Look, here's the thing.
If you slap on those opticals, which I haven't done yet.
I have. I have.
My dad bought an Oculus for his birthday.
Was it nice?
Was it cool?
Oh, it was, yes, extremely cool.
But look, here's the thing.
Extremely disorienting too.
I think it's a fantastic thing.
Austin probably has the most feedback we could probably get.
He has spent a year inside those.
Am I allowed to sue them
if I hurt myself wearing the goggles yet?
You can so easy.
Okay, so I'm gonna do that.
Oh yes.
Because they haven't written the user, the EULA, right?
The end user licensing agreement yet to mitigate
if you hurt yourself or damage property.
Well I told my dad. Looking for a hook.
Well I told my dad he's 80.
And I'm wearing this and the boys are wearing this.
Brandon and Steven are in their early 20s.
So is your dad going to a lot of these porn shops?
He's one of the.
Remember Sylvester Stallone?
The red light district.
What was that movie with Sylvester Stallone?
Demolition Man, where he has sex with Sandra Bullock
in the virtual world.
I know that.
Yeah, that's what you're saying.
But what you do is you put this on.
Sandra's hot.
I mean it is.
You're in this world.
Remarkably without boobies too.
I was in some game and I had to fly up onto a ledge
and I got onto that ledge and I almost fell over.
Because I got onto the ledge and then on the other side
it went straight down.
Like hundreds of feet.
And I went up there and I almost fell.
And I was just standing flat on my feet
in my dad's living room.
And I had to back up and stop, hit pause.
Because I almost fell over flat on my face.
You know what that means, you're not divergent.
Yeah.
I guess not.
From the movies.
I guess not.
And my dad said that he uses it.
But when you do this, you create this area.
Circle.
The circle, right?
And he makes sure that his chair is in it.
So when he gets like that.
Oh there's a way to map out your whole house technically.
He sits down.
But it's fascinating that your father was into this.
Why'd he buy it?
I mean that's the total opposite thought, right?
Why'd he buy it?
I don't know, we were out there for his birthday in April.
And he's like.
He's looking to get some action.
He does, he goes.
He goes.
Going to Red Light District.
He asked me, he goes.
And the boys, he goes, we know about Oculus.
And both the boys went.
Their antennas went up.
And I was like, it's cool, it's very cool.
It's virtual reality.
He goes, I wanna get it.
It's like crack cocaine, man.
Honestly, you're playing with fire.
That's amazing.
Sean, are you in insurance?
So he bought it.
No, you're not in insurance.
So what is he doing there?
I'm an adjuster.
Okay, so I'm already thinking.
Keep that thought.
Think about a divorce court.
If I cheat in the virtual world, does it count?
Eesh.
Right?
Like there's a whole, lawyers are just like, oh my gosh.
There's so much more money in court.
Well, are there attachments that you wear?
But you know what?
If I'm playing video games and I shoot somebody,
does it matter?
Right, oh.
No, that's murder.
So that's the precedent right now.
But all it takes is one crazy jury to empathize
with somebody on the other side.
So in the metaphor.
Well, there's video games out there where you have sex.
What?
Yeah, I know, I played God of War.
He played it.
Yeah, I did.
I was playing God of War in there
and I had to hit these buttons.
Yeah, they have sex on there, but you're not like.
No.
You had sex with an ogre?
Having colloidal sex with a porpoise of some sort.
It was an attractive busty woman in the game
and you had to hit these buttons.
You had to throw a busty.
Why would they not be in the game?
It's a game.
When you hit these buttons.
Oh yeah, what do you mean?
Like people down like Sandra Bullock?
Good D.
Like she could be a good one?
No, they're Ds.
So you know how some people's personality
make them taller than they are?
Sandra's personality makes her boobs bigger than they are.
I mean, she's quality.
Yeah.
Yeah, she's fantastic and she's 50.
I mean, hello.
She's, yeah, well I thought she was older, but.
Oh.
She is older.
Don't say that.
No, she's not.
All right, can we get a ruling on this?
I would say she's 52.
Julie and I just watched a movie with her in it.
56.
Yeah, I think she's 56.
No, The Lost City.
We just watched The Lost City.
Oh yeah.
64.
With Channing Tatum.
64.
So she's.
55.
No, 58.
No.
Seven.
She's five years older than me.
She's 58?
What?
She's five years older than me and I'm 53.
Well, Sean, Sean, you win.
You do win.
You get a $200 bottle of bourbon.
This is amazing.
I don't think you've ever gotten anything right.
You got that.
This is the first time ever you've gotten something right.
I tell you what, with the Oculus,
with the Oculus, one thing I figured out for my dad,
which I think he would enjoy, is he could sit down
and it's like he's in a theater.
Because you're in this room and you can watch TV,
ESPN, HBO, all these channels,
but you have this huge screen in front of you
so it looks like you're in a theater,
but you're sitting on your sofa
with these things on your face.
So it's like there's this 120 foot screen in front of you
watching TV, high def.
All right.
Well, look, here's the thing.
Pretty cool.
If it improves the quality of life of your father,
who's at a certain age, who cares?
Oh, I don't care.
Absolutely, no.
I just told him, I was like,
you need to be careful because he'll fall.
The problem that I find with the VR
and that type of, is that it's,
it monopolizes your time and it sucks you into this,
well, that's it, it sucks you in for like a whole night.
So you show up, like he said, you come home from work,
you pop the opticals on, and you're there
until you go to bed.
As opposed to the video games that you play.
Well, no, that's not true though.
I mean, no, well, the kids, okay,
for example, when the boys would go to bed,
I'd play like World of Warcraft, but.
For hours.
Yeah, that's true.
That's true.
Austin speak.
And distraction.
He has no microphone.
Checkmate.
He gave, Austin just gave me a checkmate.
Wow, Paul.
I nailed you.
All right.
Well, you know what, but you know, okay.
But I think it's unhealthy socially.
For kids, not for adults.
I mean, I'm an adult, I'm married.
I have kids, you know what,
what I do from like eight to midnight is my escape.
The wife's in bed, I've got, I've got Sean time.
If I want to slap, if I want to play whatever,
including the VR, which I don't,
I think that's okay.
The problem with the kids is that I think it stunts.
I think it stunts them.
It could be.
I think it stunts their social behavior.
I think that'd be a great discussion later
when he was talking about the camping and the other things
and the obstacles we're facing with the next generation,
but here's one for me is there are times I'm on my phone,
my wife's next to me in the bed, she's on her phone,
and I really want to put them down, and we don't.
Right.
I think the goggles will be even harder to put down.
So my point is it's about degree,
and that's a word we've lost in our world.
It's absolutism everywhere.
Unless you bolt the one in the goggles,
and you can see each other in bed.
You can.
And you can change.
I would just really like to exchange real fluids
instead of digital ones.
There you go.
I'm gonna declare there.
Okay, I'm gonna draw a line.
The bottom line is when we're neglecting,
when we're neglecting real world things,
like time with our kids, time with our wife,
time with our friends, time doing real things,
it's a bad thing.
I also don't, I don't think,
we've talked about this for years,
like the insecurities for both males and females
looking at magazines and comparing ourselves.
Well, if we could digitally recreate,
like let's just be who we are.
By the way, for the audience, we are all gorgeous.
We are the most gorgeous people
you've ever seen digitally.
I don't think I've ever been to 10 pounds.
Take Hugh Jackman, take Zac Efron, take everyone.
Put them all together,
make your best beautiful man, baby, and that's us.
Like a government mule.
My nickname is Adonis.
Yeah.
I mean, I, yeah, exactly.
I love that.
So it's like, I don't know if that all helps either
for mental health, right?
No, it doesn't.
You know.
But it does help that we're, like I said, we're ripped.
Luckily, right.
I'll be surprised.
I feel bad for other people.
Well, I'll be surprised that the metaverse,
at least this iteration, succeeds.
I think it's an ultimate thing.
I don't know if this one will succeed,
but I think something may come along.
What's the Facebook guy's name?
Zuckerberg.
Yeah, Zuckerberg, he's invested a shitload of money,
and I think it's an addiction.
No, listen, that's the problem.
All of us, we're not going to give away a demographic age,
but we are not what we're thinking.
I mean, my son plays the most wealthy game
company in the world that is free.
Right?
Say that again.
He plays the most wealthy?
The wealthiest game company out there.
OK.
Blizzard.
Has a free game.
OK.
Called Fortnite.
Oh, yeah.
So Epic Games charges nothing to play their game.
And it's the wealthiest company.
That's because of all the little up-charges they have.
Skins, season tokens, all these things.
And so look, this group growing up, I'm telling you,
my youngest and my oldest are seven years apart.
It might as well be a chasm the size of the Grand Canyon,
raising them in a digital world.
I mean, think about it.
So that's who they're grooming.
That's who they're grooming when those people make $100,000
a year.
A $59 game, which is the typical price of a game.
$60 ish.
I mean, you're no longer paying $60 if it's free.
So they're hoping to that they are going to get that $60.
And then some.
Yeah, because you can't succeed in the game
unless you've got all that other shit, right?
Correct.
No, it's not just that.
But I know a lot of games, I read the reviews,
they're like, I paid $60 for this.
And then there's a release after that that opens up this world.
Or there's this skin.
Or this.
But in order to get the entire experience,
you're paying $200 to get the full experience of the game.
Right.
I heard.
Otherwise, you get like a beta version.
Not a beta version.
Alpha.
An omega version.
I think the point I was making is we don't understand
the audience that they're selling to because we're not
them.
It's a little scary.
And man, as parents, how do we give as many
people advice before we die?
I hate to be morbid there.
But how do we give as much advice before they go?
Like, hey, fight that.
Can we hit pause for a second?
Yeah.
Mr. Producer, I was rather alarmed today
when I got that text message with my credit card.
And so I started looking into the credit card stuff.
No, no.
So I looked on the credit card and I
was going over the expenditures.
Charges, yeah.
I noticed that there were a few dollar items on there,
which is OK.
But was that you?
$1 for EA.
Were there 977 of them?
There were like four of them.
Yeah.
I get on Brandon so much for that.
It may have been something else, but whatever.
Oh, I find charges like that all the time.
I get on Brandon so much for that.
He's like, I spent $2 on this.
I was like, yeah, but it's stupid.
You spent $2 on it 60 times.
So you could have red hair.
It was recently.
So where I diverge a little from you
is if you want to pay that fine.
So my 13-year-old, the rule has always been
ask permission for a charge.
So what I've done, he has done three charges,
not consecutively, but three sporadically over four months
where he didn't ask permission.
So I make him give me 2x the cost.
I charge him 100% penalty rate.
So when he tries to charge $9, I go,
you have to pay me $18.
I like where this is going.
Because I'm like, hey, just ask me permission
and have the respect that it's my money
and let's have a conversation.
Right, and that's the problem I had with Brandon
is he would spend the money.
You should be in politics.
He would spend the money and then not have any
actually to pay his rent.
Right.
That's more of a spending manager.
Yeah, that's not cool.
So I'm like, are you looking at your budget?
What are you spending on?
I was like, let's look at this.
Oh, you spent $10 here.
You spent $5 on this game that you'll play for two months
and forget about it.
I understand entertainment, and there's
a cost for entertainment.
I have no problem with that.
But there's a certain class or irresponsibility,
a class of entertainment that I have a problem with.
I love video games.
So go ahead.
Well, you know the trick.
So you know the boiling frog theory, right?
You put a frog in water.
If you turn it right on flaming hot, it'll jump out.
If you put a frog in water and you slowly
turn the temperature up, it will sit in it
until it burns to death.
What they figured out is drip charging.
$2, $5, $9.
You don't freak out.
And what happens is because no one writes checks
and doesn't register anymore, it just swipe, swipe, swipe.
Oh, not even swipe anymore.
By the way, thank Amazon for frictionless buying.
Set up the card.
Click, done.
What happens is the end of the year, the statement comes
or the end of month, and you're like $900 upside down.
And you don't know how you boiled to death as the frog.
Which for years, we can all probably appreciate this.
Why don't we teach financial literacy in high school?
Because we don't want literate consumers.
We want stupid consumers that will buy a $2,000 TV for $6,000
over 72 months.
So we've got lobbyists and things like that.
So we've just digitized that into a very incremental.
Make it even easier.
So now you're there parenting that.
And he's like, Dad, Dad, I didn't do that.
And he doesn't know as a frog.
He boiled to death and can't pay rent.
It's so true.
It's like when I look at the credit card bill,
and they go to 7-Eleven and they buy $2.74,
or it's $1.68, or it's a I don't.
But it's all of them added together.
I know.
But I look at it, and I don't freak out.
I don't freak out.
I'm like, I go, damn it.
I got to talk to them about this.
And then I kind of forget.
But when I see a $47 charge, I'm like, what the hell is this?
I think what you should do, probably all of us
need to do this, at the end of the month,
your bank will do this.
Show me where my expenditures are.
And you'll see a pie chart or however it breaks it down.
You're going to be like, wow.
91% on porn.
Wow.
That was a dollar at a time.
That's a lot of single dollars there, Jeff.
Feeding those current quarters.
About to tell you, your right forearm's
looking really rich, bro.
Walk me through that.
$1 at a time.
You're the one who says you have 91% porn charges.
Well, yeah, but at $1 at a time?
Well, what's your charges?
Good lord.
That's a lot of time.
It is a lot of times.
All right, sorry.
But yeah, I agree.
I have the discussion.
My wife is a finance teacher, and she
teaches personal finance.
And she's trying to get it to be a graduation requirement
in the city we live in.
It should be.
It'll never make it.
Well, she's trying.
I appreciate that, and I hope she wins.
Right.
But this economy runs on that, huh?
Because I tell you, she gets the most thanks for that class.
From the parents and from the students,
that once they get out of college,
they come back and thank her for that class specifically.
Thank you for telling me how to balance a checkbook,
manage my money, to understand how I'm spending my money.
It seems so simple.
I mean, why wouldn't they want to teach that?
Because we've already said uneducated consumers give away
their money to the people who need to make money.
So this is all propaganda to keep the kinfolk down.
So if you live by the theory that if we
were to take all the wealth in the world
and give it evenly to 8 billion people, in seven years,
it'll be back in the hands of the same rich people.
Of course.
That's the rule.
And the whole point is they don't want you to be educated,
because that makes the game more difficult.
All we've done, if we want to really back it up,
capitalism is really civilized greed, guys.
Let's be honest.
Sure it is.
Cro-Magnon, he comes over to my house,
says, I like your wife, I like your house.
He beats me up, kills me.
He gets it.
Now he says, I like your house, I like your wife.
I'll sell you this heavy mortgage
with a pre-penalty payment insurance and a high interest
rate, and I'll give you this TV.
We all enslave each other in a much more white collar,
civilized way.
Today's world has just digitized it and made it AI to where we,
someday they're going to learn your threshold of where
you give a shit.
You're going to call your credit card company,
and they're going to learn.
Paul called when it was $47, you said before?
Right.
Oh shit, every charge is going to be under $45.
And then when you call, it's $30,
and every charge is going to be under $30.
And they heard me say it.
Right, and so you're phone right now.
Son of a gun.
They're feeding that shit to Citibank right now.
Oh, listen, that is it.
And so as parents, we have to teach them,
and that's the hard part, is how many of the vast majority
of people not to go socioeconomical
don't have the parents with the time or the care
or the attention to teach them those things,
and they just feed the machine.
Well, the frustrating part is we've
at least we've thought we've taught the boys, right?
But I take that back, because I've made a lot of mistakes
when I was their age.
They're still making mistakes and spending money
that they don't necessarily have,
but they spend it incorrectly.
Right, frivolously.
Frivolously when they shouldn't, especially at their age,
when they're, and I always tell them,
I was like, you're college students.
You shouldn't be living like a king right now,
and you shouldn't be owning this or this or this.
The way they were.
Yes, they lived like this.
It was crazy.
Oh, yeah, the food they buy, the restaurants they go to,
the alcohol they somehow manage to buy,
it's all like top notch stuff.
Yeah.
When we were there, we bought the shit beer.
And we went to the bars that had the ridiculous binge
drinking, penny drinks.
They are going out there and spending $11 on a drink.
I'm like, mm.
And they're buying $300 bottle service.
No.
So one of the problems is the developers, real estate
developers, who build the student housing.
These kids live in better student housing
than they can afford as an apartment in their first job.
And they charge the parents for that.
We're shelling out $700, $800 a month.
That's exactly what happened.
Yeah, that's number one.
And number two, by the way, this table, dudes like us,
we're not perfect.
We're at fault. And I'll tell you where we're at fault.
So if you live by the theory that you
want every generation to have a better life than you did,
that's an evolutionary mantra.
Yes.
Right.
The problem is we typically default
that the betterment metric is making it easier and more
convenient and less painful.
That's what we've done.
We don't want them to struggle in any way, shape, or form.
Or even be uncomfortable.
As much degree, as much or whatever,
we just want it to be easier because we all had our deals.
You were going to talk about jobs we had,
and the things we did, and the shit we peddled.
The problem is when you do that and you remove those barriers,
there's a consequence to that.
And we're starting to realize that they
don't have the perspective to understand
that consequence at all.
No.
I'd like to cover that in our next session.
I agree.
And because I know my kids don't do,
or I don't want to say suffer, but they
didn't go through near what I did.
And I didn't go through near what my parents went through.
Correct.
Right?
So I think that'd be an interesting topic.
Just even at our generation, what
we did as our first job, our first three or four jobs,
compared to what our kids are doing today.
Love it.
Yeah.
I just solved that problem by beating my kids.
Well, in lack of appreciation, too.
You know what I mean?
I introduced that.
I find that most kids don't appreciate
what's going on either.
They don't understand what's going on.
They don't understand where the money's coming from.
They think it's some magical beanstalk.
So for the next part is that was an incongruent statement,
is lack of appreciation, but they don't understand.
That's the bridge.
They can't appreciate what they don't understand.
So that's going to be a fun second half.
Right now.
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