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You fart?

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No!

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Already?

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What?

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That's the taint between the holidays.

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Merry Christmas and Happy New Year taint.

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Yeah, it's like after Christmas and before New Year's.

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Happy taint day?

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It's the taint between the...

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It's kind of like your happy Christmas is over, but you're sad and you're sad because

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you're sad because you're sad because you're sad because you're sad because you're sad because

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Christmas is over, but you're sad and you're excited New Year's is coming, but you want

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it to wait.

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I'm happy hanging out in the taint.

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I'm enjoying this whole week.

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I'm off this whole week and I'm spending time in the taint and enjoying it.

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Nice.

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I don't get that.

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I wish I could.

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I could.

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It was a choice.

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I could have taken the time off, but I was trying to be a good person.

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Alright, well welcome back to Dudes Like Us podcast.

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I am Paul.

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I am Jeff.

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And I am Sean.

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We have a special guest.

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We have a very, very special VIP in my book.

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We picked him up on Oaklawn Street.

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He was wearing a fanny pack with some rainbow colored socks.

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He looks a little rough.

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And suspenders.

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Welcome to the show, Mr. Allen.

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Okay, thank you.

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Nice.

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We're very excited to have you.

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So, Allen's, he came in for the holidays to visit Fam and we're excited.

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Every time Allen comes into town, it's always a party.

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It's a party.

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It's a party.

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Kind of like Paul's mouth, it's always a party.

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Wow.

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It's gotta be, right?

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This is the esteemed father of my wife.

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Oh, I wasn't sure if we were able to share that.

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Absolutely.

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Why wouldn't we?

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I'm very proud.

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I'm very proud to be this gentleman's son-in-law.

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He's never accepted me, but I'm very proud to be his son-in-law.

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Well, I haven't liked you either, so.

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Well, it kind of goes along with it.

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You have to like someone before you can accept them.

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I totally agree.

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I totally agree.

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Thanks for pointing that out, Allen.

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All right, so here we are nestled in between Christmas and New Year's.

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Very nice.

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Kind of a bland moment.

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It's kind of like, oh, I'm not going to lay down the Christmas stuff yet.

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It's kind of like there's a period in July where never there, or I don't know exactly

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when it is, where there's no sports except like golf.

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It's like a stretch of a few days, maybe it's the All-Star break, I don't know.

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Football hasn't started up yet.

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Hockey's done.

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Basketball's done.

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Baseball's on break.

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Yeah, but we got inundated with sports like during the Christmas weekend.

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I'm talking over the summer.

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There's a time just like now is the taint of holidays, according to Sean.

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I'm saying there's a taint of sports in the summertime.

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I got you.

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I got you.

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So.

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All right.

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So we're all coming down off our Christmas high.

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Were there any exciting moments that happened during the Christmas break?

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For anybody?

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Anybody go anywhere?

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I think everybody stayed.

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Everybody stayed home.

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Everybody stayed in.

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I tell you, I did my very first, and you guys participated in it.

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Three of the four of us participated in it.

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It was my first night Christmas Eve party.

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Completely off the hook.

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I had no idea this kind of stuff happened.

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This was a work party?

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What do you mean?

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It was a party that we attended on Christmas Eve.

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It was a neighbor.

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And I remember you walking up there, Sean, this is a tier one.

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This is a tier one.

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Don't you fuck it up for me, Sean.

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Oh, that party.

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Well, how many other Christmas Eve parties have you gone to?

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I don't remember much of this whole week.

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I believe it.

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Good Lord.

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I was drunk.

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You should have seen that.

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We did.

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We went to.

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He was walking around like Captain Kangaroo with his frickin' big old cowboy boots on.

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Well, here's what sucked.

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Everybody was supposed to wear pajamas.

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Well, we didn't get the memo.

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And my son did not tell us, although he wore pajamas.

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We kind of dressed up a little bit and Alan was even there, you know.

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I dressed up in slacks and a nice sweater, red sweater.

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Alan sleeps the dude.

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Yeah, you looked good.

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Yeah, we all looked good, but we were completely overdressed.

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Inappropriately dressed.

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I mean, this is where the host of the house has a T-shirt on and it says, D's nuts.

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And I was like, all right, well, good to know.

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If I ever get an invitation to come back to this Christmas Eve party.

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Which is unlikely.

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Well, now that you had showed up there and did all those things that you did.

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What happened?

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It was a wild party and they're known for throwing wild parties.

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So this is my son's.

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This is basically some of my son's best friends.

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His father threw the party.

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His best friends.

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Yeah, no, I should say that.

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His best friend's house where they throw the party.

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Danny.

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Danny.

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table, they had cups, a whole bunch of cups.

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Like all these little solo cups.

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Yeah, solo cups that were covered.

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And then you with a napkin and a rubber band.

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When the time came, you had to reach through there and pull out a little shot bottle, right?

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The little, the little.

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And do it right.

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Oh, it was actually Christmas paper.

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Yeah, it was wrapping paper.

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Christmas.

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Well, the thin stuff.

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I couldn't see that.

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So you pull yours out and then that's.

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So everybody pulls theirs out and then, you know, when the time.

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It was like a Christmas gift.

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Then everybody shoots it right there.

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Oh my God.

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And it was all kinds of stuff.

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Did it get ever clear?

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Did it get ever clear?

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So what was cool is there was some trading going on.

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Yeah, a little buttering.

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I got rid of Kam, Kam, Kambacha?

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Kambootcha?

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Kambootcha.

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Kambootcha.

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Something chata.

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I don't know.

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Horchata.

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And I had the peanut butter one.

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I've never done that before ever.

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How was it?

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It wasn't bad.

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It was pretty good actually.

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I can't do shots.

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And of course I was just after that.

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Oh, no, you weren't.

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Well, he had made a point to say, God, I'm kind of messed up.

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And we played our pool game and it showed.

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You know, terrible.

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What?

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Alan is always the one that is.

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No, well, I'm always am the one that that's making us fail.

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But this particular time.

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Well, you scratched.

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Well, I scratched on the eight ball.

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My point is that we lean on Alan.

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But I didn't shoot well.

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You're right.

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I did not shoot well.

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He didn't make a single God bless him ball.

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No, he didn't make a single one.

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So it was just like it was odd because we always lean on Alan whenever we get in these billiard predicaments.

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Because he's an ace.

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We can suck because he's a freaking shark, man.

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And I'll tell you what.

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You are.

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You're a pool shark.

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Nobody would know this.

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Nobody.

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You can go anywhere on the planet and take out Alan and be like, all right, we're going

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to play for a thousand bucks.

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The game is horse.

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You're you're and he's going to fucking win.

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You're describing something he is very familiar with.

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As a matter of fact, that's my you did that quite a bit.

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Well, yeah, you hustled at pool.

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Did you hustle 500 times?

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And that was in 60.

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Yes, we're talking we're looking we're talking to Paul Newman here.

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Now, well, you were a hustler.

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And then you started running with Chad.

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It was 66, 67.

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And then you started running with Chad, too, because Chad's a great great.

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But Chad is her his other son, my oldest son, oldest son.

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Oh, that's OK.

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My wife's good.

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Cameron's very good pool player.

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So we have a you have a family of good pool players and you would go out to bars and you

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guys would play and piss people off and get into some dicey situations.

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There's been a few.

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So anyway, people don't like getting beaten.

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And then when you get on a roll, you start to talk a little trash.

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Cool is the worst game I should ever play because I get too serious and too competitive.

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And I become very excited.

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You know, it's funny.

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I become a real jerk.

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What was funny is I was the guys who were playing it.

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I mean, you did.

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You started going in the zone and I just started laughing.

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I was shaking my head laughing because you were going in the zone and I couldn't care

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less.

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Well, that's not true.

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But they pulled me aside and they're like, what's going on?

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I was like, he's competitive.

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He's competitive.

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Are you talking about Christmas Eve?

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Christmas Eve.

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So I I made sure that nobody misread you.

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I just said he and he gets in the zone.

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Thanks to Tara.

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She started giving me bottles of water because I was feeling bad.

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She brought me one bottle of water after the other.

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That was after the shot.

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And then I actually started getting better.

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Oh, dude.

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You and I played together and we did really well.

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Well, yeah, I don't know how I got chipped out of the whole deal.

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But because you suck.

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So well, Alan gets back on there because we do in a rotation.

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You know, you put your nickels on the table or the quarters and when it comes time for

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you to write your quarters and it's your chance.

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So Alan, he finally gets a chance to get back up there and he nails it.

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I think he I don't know if they sunk a ball.

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He went around the table.

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It's like don't don't don't don't don't don't.

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And he was like, suck it at the end.

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Yeah, that's like I'm out.

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I got to go.

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It was funny.

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It was a fun party, though, man.

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Everybody was everybody was happy.

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Everybody was in a good mood and drinking and you brought up the the whole drink a shot

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thing because I think I think it's kind of an icebreaker and I think people need to do

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more of that.

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And I think having I'm not a huge fan of some of these sweet liquors that they put in there.

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Like, yeah, some amaretto and some crap like that, but if you just do it and shut the hell

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up, you'll have fun.

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Well, some of that really sweet stuff you have to take a shot of.

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I mean, you can't you can't just sip it like remember that praline whiskey.

283
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Oh, yeah.

284
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So super like it's very sweet.

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Oh, very sweet.

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Great taste.

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Right. And then we shot them and we were like, wow, this is like a dessert.

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Yeah. But if you drink slowly, I put one on diabetes, put one on a cube.

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And I was like, after a couple sips, I was like, done.

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Couldn't finish it.

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Had to sweet.

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Had to dump it.

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I got to tell you what, I'm not sure you needed a shot.

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If you looked at some of them girls that are in pajamas, I thought that was pretty hot,

295
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actually.

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Negliges.

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No, they weren't.

298
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They were just pajamas.

299
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I heard some disappointment in Paul's voice.

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Those are the other girls.

301
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Those tight those pajamas were super tight.

302
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It's ridiculous.

303
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Yes.

304
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Yeah, I get on the phone.

305
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I tried not to look because I would get myself in trouble.

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I take my phone out and I'm like, darling, Jeff, I'm like, Jeff, Jeff, Jeff, you're

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never going to believe who's here.

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And they're like, what the what?

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What?

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Who's here?

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I was like, those girls that are working out in front of us when we're in the elliptical,

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you know, the girls, they're all here.

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They are all here.

314
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The ones you drool over.

315
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Yeah, we don't drool.

316
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I want to say motivation.

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They inspire us.

318
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Yeah.

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It's when they walk by or look your direction, you're like sucking in the gut.

320
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You know, I don't do that.

321
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I learned my lesson.

322
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I can't suck it in that far.

323
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If you start yelling out one thirty five, if you suck in your gut while you're on the

324
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elliptical, you'll end up blocking out.

325
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That's it.

326
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You cannot do that.

327
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So what did you do?

328
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I know you had family stuff going on.

329
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What did you do?

330
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We.

331
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Yeah, I had both boys home.

332
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My oldest flew in from Texas Tech Christmas Day.

333
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Or I'm sorry, Christmas Eve Day, and we had the traditional on the traditional or not,

334
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but they are with my wife.

335
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They weren't when I was growing up, but she had tamales.

336
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I think a lot of people have tamales on Christmas Eve.

337
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Christmas Eve.

338
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I thought that was a New Year's Day thing.

339
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I don't know.

340
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I think it's a Texas thing.

341
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I don't know.

342
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I'd never heard of it when I was growing up, but I was.

343
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And you make them or you just.

344
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Well, we.

345
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Terrence family does it.

346
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Yeah, we've got them.

347
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Yeah, they make them.

348
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Yeah, we've got homemade ones before.

349
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We've gone to restaurants and bought some.

350
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These were from Costco.

351
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They're actually not bad.

352
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They're really good.

353
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And we've tried them.

354
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Yeah.

355
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And so we had those and we had a nice family dinner and then we sat down and my oldest

356
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wanted to do a Harry Potter marathon while he was here.

357
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So we watched Harry Potter.

358
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I'll see if painful.

359
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Yeah, I'm sorry to hear that.

360
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My wife loves Harry Potter and we watched it and I can't stand it.

361
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I like Harry Potter, but a marathon.

362
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I don't know.

363
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Yeah.

364
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And they're like 21 movies.

365
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There's eight, actually.

366
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And you watched Harry Potter.

367
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We watched all of them.

368
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You probably started one.

369
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One of them.

370
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Have you?

371
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We started Christmas Eve and we watched the first one, whichever one it is, The Sorcerer's

372
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Stone.

373
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Terrible.

374
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We made fun of it all the way through because the boys were old.

375
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When they first saw it, they were young and they thought it was cool.

376
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They didn't know bad acting from good.

377
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Right.

378
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Now they're watching it and they're just like, God, this is terrible acting.

379
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Well, then they're going to see eight movies of terrible acting.

380
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Right.

381
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Well, it gets better as you go.

382
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But when they were young, it was really bad.

383
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So we did that.

384
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The storyline is good.

385
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It is.

386
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It is.

387
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Actually, I heard the books are amazing.

388
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Yeah, I read the books.

389
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The books are good.

390
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It's a ripoff of Star Wars, though.

391
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Oh, yeah.

392
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Harry Potter and Star Wars.

393
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Oh, yeah.

394
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It is.

395
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It's an absolute ripoff.

396
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You're kidding, right?

397
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It's the same thing.

398
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Are you kidding?

399
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Not exactly the same.

400
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There's nothing like it.

401
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It's sorcerers and...

402
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Really?

403
00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:57,000
Sorcerers and Jedi's?

404
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Go on.

405
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One has a lightsaber.

406
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OK.

407
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So let's talk about this.

408
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I don't want to dive into this.

409
00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:03,000
I see.

410
00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:04,000
Well, I don't want to dive into this.

411
00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:07,000
Well, we got Harry Potter, right?

412
00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:10,000
And his sidekick, you know...

413
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The redhead?

414
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Yeah, the redhead.

415
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No one knows his name.

416
00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:14,000
What is his name?

417
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That's right.

418
00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:16,000
Yeah, no one knows his name.

419
00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:17,000
And then Luke Skywalker.

420
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You have Han Solo.

421
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It's an article that says Harry Potter is a Star Wars.

422
00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:22,000
Yeah, finally.

423
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As always suspected, but now hard.

424
00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:28,000
Solid proof has emerged that once for all the shows that J.K. Rowling, aka the great

425
00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:33,000
play, Dristel, her entire concept for Harry Potter from George Lucas Star Wars, for shameless,

426
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for shame, lady, for shame, bitch.

427
00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:35,000
Let's see if you can scroll down a little bit.

428
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I don't buy that.

429
00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:37,000
See if we have some actually...

430
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There we go.

431
00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:39,000
Hold on.

432
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I don't buy that at all.

433
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So the similarities, but not a ripoff.

434
00:13:42,560 --> 00:13:43,560
Those are ideas.

435
00:13:43,560 --> 00:13:44,560
All right.

436
00:13:44,560 --> 00:13:48,000
So basically what she's saying is she's comparing Luke Skywalker to Harry Potter.

437
00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:52,640
She's, you know, you got the redhead, Han Solo, you got Princess Leia as the girl chick

438
00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:53,640
on there.

439
00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:56,640
You've got Obi-Wan Kenobi, and then you have...

440
00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:57,640
Who's the big...

441
00:13:57,640 --> 00:13:58,640
Waldorf?

442
00:13:58,640 --> 00:13:59,640
The ogre guy?

443
00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:00,640
Yeah.

444
00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:01,640
Who's that guy?

445
00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:02,640
That gigantic guy?

446
00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:03,640
Yeah.

447
00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:04,640
So there's a whole schematic.

448
00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:05,640
This is so dumb.

449
00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:06,640
What are you talking about?

450
00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:07,640
This is a waste of time.

451
00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:08,640
There's nothing...

452
00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,400
Okay, I shouldn't say there isn't similarities.

453
00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:12,840
First of all, did you see Harry Potter?

454
00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:13,840
Yes, I've seen them.

455
00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:14,840
Shut...

456
00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:15,840
Don't say shut the...

457
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The front door.

458
00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:17,840
I don't...

459
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Thank you.

460
00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:19,840
I like that better.

461
00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:20,840
Very offensive when you say the Yoda.

462
00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:21,840
I don't say shut the fuck up.

463
00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:22,840
That's rude.

464
00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:24,160
You say it a lot to me.

465
00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:25,160
I do not.

466
00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:26,160
Oh, big fight.

467
00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:27,160
We're going to have to turn off the podcast now.

468
00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:30,160
So who's Yoda in Harry Potter?

469
00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:31,160
Exactly.

470
00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:36,720
Yoda would be like one of the old dudes up there that keeps the bird...

471
00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:37,720
That's Dumbledore.

472
00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:38,720
Well, Dumbledore.

473
00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:40,080
Who's Obi-Wan then?

474
00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:42,480
Obi-Wan is one of them.

475
00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:43,480
There's several Dumbledores.

476
00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:44,480
No, there's one.

477
00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:45,480
No, there's one.

478
00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:47,520
Watching Harry Potter is boring.

479
00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:49,000
Talking about it is even more boring.

480
00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:52,640
Yeah, I've already jumped the shark on this, but I just want to throw that out there that

481
00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:57,160
Star Wars and Harry Potter have tremendously a lot of similar traits.

482
00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,320
Well, it's because there's good kid and bad guys.

483
00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,680
To the point where I think she plagiarized.

484
00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:02,680
I think that's crazy.

485
00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:04,960
It's good guys and I don't think so.

486
00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:05,960
I don't think so.

487
00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:06,960
Anyway.

488
00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:10,360
So what do you think the eight shows brought in on how many millions of dollars on those

489
00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:11,360
seven movies?

490
00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:12,360
Eight movies.

491
00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:13,360
Man.

492
00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:14,360
Billions.

493
00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:15,960
She's the richest woman in England.

494
00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:16,960
I wonder the comparison...

495
00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,400
I think even richer than the royal family.

496
00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:25,800
Between the Harry Potter movies and the Star Wars movies, which ones made more?

497
00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:30,640
I mean, I think Star Wars made more as far as an industry because there's a lot of toys

498
00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,080
involved and there's a lot of...

499
00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:34,080
I don't know.

500
00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:38,000
They've been around a long time, so they've got everything, a lot of products.

501
00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:42,880
But as far as the movie and how much money it's generated, I would say that Harry Potter's

502
00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:43,880
probably made more money.

503
00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:44,880
In Star Wars?

504
00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:45,880
Yeah, absolutely.

505
00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:46,880
I would agree.

506
00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:50,680
Man, I think part of it has to do with the fact that Star Wars started in 1976.

507
00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:54,960
Well, if you adjust with foreign inflation, it may catch up.

508
00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:55,960
Yeah, but that's not the reality.

509
00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,880
Well, you also have to consider that a bunch of Star Wars movies are really not that good.

510
00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:01,920
But you know, the bottom line is, if you're going to make eight movies, you're making

511
00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:05,000
money on them, or you don't make this third one or fourth one or fifth one.

512
00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:06,000
Well, that's true.

513
00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:07,000
And you're right about the...

514
00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,000
They don't make money on the later ones?

515
00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:10,000
Is that what you're saying?

516
00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:13,400
I'm just saying, you don't keep making movies unless you can make money with them.

517
00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:14,400
Oh, of course.

518
00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:15,400
Yeah.

519
00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:19,600
So, as Star Wars jumped around so much, Star Wars started with what number in 76?

520
00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:20,600
Number six or seven?

521
00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:21,600
Yeah, it was number five.

522
00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:22,600
Number five.

523
00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:23,600
Okay, I don't remember that number.

524
00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:24,600
You didn't know that.

525
00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:28,280
It was Star Wars, and it was like the number one, then they had Empire Strikes Back, and

526
00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:29,280
then...

527
00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:30,280
What are you saying is number five?

528
00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:31,280
Well, technically, it's...

529
00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:32,280
Four, five, and six.

530
00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:33,280
Episode four.

531
00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:35,280
Well, Star Wars, I think, is episode five.

532
00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:36,280
Four.

533
00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:37,280
No, four.

534
00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:38,280
Is it four?

535
00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:39,280
New Hope.

536
00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:40,280
New Hope is four.

537
00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:41,280
I thought you were Star Wars...

538
00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:42,280
He claims to be.

539
00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:43,280
I doubt it.

540
00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:44,280
He's a Star Wars sommelier?

541
00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:45,280
He's a Star Trek guy.

542
00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:46,280
He's a Trekkie.

543
00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:47,280
I am a Trekkie.

544
00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:48,280
I'm more of a Trekkie than Star Wars.

545
00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:49,280
I always thought Star Wars was number five.

546
00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:50,280
I like him more.

547
00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:51,280
No, it's four.

548
00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:52,280
So maybe Empire Strikes Back is number five.

549
00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:53,280
I like him more.

550
00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:55,800
So maybe Empire Strikes Back is number five.

551
00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:56,800
It is.

552
00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:57,800
It is.

553
00:16:57,800 --> 00:16:58,800
All right, well, whatever.

554
00:16:58,800 --> 00:16:59,800
Return of the Jedi is six.

555
00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:00,800
All right, so they have so many...

556
00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:03,880
And then they go back in time to one, two, and three, which were all awful, except for

557
00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:04,880
actually the second one.

558
00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:05,880
Man, see, I disagree.

559
00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:10,800
I think that they all did their part telling stories.

560
00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:16,080
For example, like Solo, the movie that came out, which was the story about Han Solo.

561
00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:18,640
Solo's one thing, but Phantom Menace was terrible.

562
00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:19,640
Phantom Menace was terrible.

563
00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:20,640
With Jar Jar Binks and that stupid...

564
00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:21,640
I liked it.

565
00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:22,640
I'm sorry.

566
00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:24,240
If they didn't have the pod race...

567
00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:25,240
It was terrible.

568
00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:26,240
It would have been the worst movie of all time.

569
00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:27,240
The pod race was good.

570
00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:28,240
No, I liked it.

571
00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:29,240
I liked all of it.

572
00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:30,240
Terrible acting.

573
00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:31,240
Terrible.

574
00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:32,240
Terrible writing.

575
00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:37,640
They had the pillars that they were tied to and that prehistoric...

576
00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:38,640
Okay.

577
00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:40,960
Well, does it make it a good movie?

578
00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:42,960
Yeah, they're talking about the scene where...

579
00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:44,800
Where they were in the planet...

580
00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:46,440
Yeah, what do you call the Roman...

581
00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:47,440
The Colosseum.

582
00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:48,440
Colosseum.

583
00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:51,960
Yeah, the Roman Colosseum thing where they're tied up and they're about to be killed or

584
00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:52,960
whatever.

585
00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:53,960
That's in the second one, I believe.

586
00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:54,960
Whatever.

587
00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:55,960
You know, here's the thing.

588
00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:56,960
Never mind.

589
00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:00,120
I enjoyed every single Star Wars that came out.

590
00:18:00,120 --> 00:18:02,000
Darth Maul was a good in the first one.

591
00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:03,000
Every single Harry Potter.

592
00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:04,000
He was good.

593
00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,520
I don't want to dog any of them.

594
00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:08,800
I think he had a lot of great lines, Darth Maul.

595
00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:09,800
He did.

596
00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:10,800
He did talk.

597
00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:11,800
A lot of them were introduced at Christmas time.

598
00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:13,800
We're talking about Christmas day right now.

599
00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,160
Yeah, that's one thing that Brandon...

600
00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,800
Because his birthday is middle of December.

601
00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:19,800
Every year...

602
00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:20,800
Oh my God.

603
00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:21,800
That's a waste.

604
00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:22,800
I'm broke.

605
00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:23,800
What happened over here?

606
00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:28,880
Now my bourbon, which we haven't discussed yet, was sitting on somewhere nice, kind of

607
00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,240
precariously, and all of a sudden it toppled.

608
00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:32,240
You just wasted it.

609
00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:34,040
I caught it and it...

610
00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:37,480
No, it was like maybe not even an ounce came out.

611
00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:40,000
This is another reason why we don't do video.

612
00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,040
That was not a graceful exchange.

613
00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:43,920
Yeah, but I saved it.

614
00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:45,200
Yeah, but it wasn't graceful.

615
00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:46,200
But you lost half of it.

616
00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:47,200
No, no, no.

617
00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:48,200
Look, look, look.

618
00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:49,200
It's still buried in the cube.

619
00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:50,200
Anyway...

620
00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:51,200
No, no.

621
00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:52,200
I'm talking about you.

622
00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:53,200
What were we talking about?

623
00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:54,200
We were talking about Christmas.

624
00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:55,200
This is a wheat...

625
00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:56,200
Oh, we're talking about the bourbon now.

626
00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:57,200
Yeah, let's talk about the bourbon.

627
00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:58,200
Well, you know, we might as well jump here.

628
00:18:58,200 --> 00:18:59,200
We moved on.

629
00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:00,200
So this...

630
00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:04,080
Our bourbon starting off today was a...

631
00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:09,240
We sometimes get burnout going to Total Wine.

632
00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,760
And so every now and then we need a little change up.

633
00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:15,040
And the last one we went to was a great change up because...

634
00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:16,040
Where did we go?

635
00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:17,040
What was it called?

636
00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:18,040
The Liquor King.

637
00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:19,040
We went to Liquor King.

638
00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:24,120
Well, the thing is there's different selection at different places because they have partnerships

639
00:19:24,120 --> 00:19:26,440
with different distributors, I would imagine.

640
00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:27,440
So in our area...

641
00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:28,440
And they're customer based too.

642
00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:29,440
Well, it's different buyers.

643
00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:30,440
Right.

644
00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:34,600
And so in our area, the big ones are Total Wine, Spex, Liquor King.

645
00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:36,720
I don't know if it's a big one, but it's a great one.

646
00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:37,720
It's a great find.

647
00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:38,720
Yeah, Goody Goody's the other one.

648
00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:39,720
Goody Goody, that's another one.

649
00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:40,720
Yeah.

650
00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:42,400
So anyways, they had different selections there.

651
00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:47,800
And we noticed that we had tried the Penelope that had the four grain of the bourbons.

652
00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,000
And we actually really enjoyed that.

653
00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:54,440
And they had the William Dalton, they had two of them.

654
00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:56,680
They had the Weed and Bourbon and then they had the four grain.

655
00:19:56,680 --> 00:20:00,240
I think the four grain is called Lee Sinclair.

656
00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:01,640
Yeah, it's got a different name.

657
00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:02,760
It's the same distiller.

658
00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,080
It's the French Lick distiller, right.

659
00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,840
But each one has its own different name.

660
00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:09,440
This is our third one of this place.

661
00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:10,440
The Troopskate.

662
00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:11,440
Well, it's good.

663
00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:12,440
And this is good too.

664
00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:13,440
So this is light.

665
00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:14,440
It packs a punch.

666
00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:15,440
It packs a punch.

667
00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:16,440
It's got a what?

668
00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:17,440
107?

669
00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:19,880
It's 107 as far as the proof goes.

670
00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:23,100
And it's a traditional weeded bourbon.

671
00:20:23,100 --> 00:20:28,280
So for those folks out there that want to kind of shove this into a category as far

672
00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:33,040
as what is a weeded bourbon, Maker's Mark is 71% corn.

673
00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,480
This one is 76% corn.

674
00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:36,480
75%?

675
00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:42,040
So it's got the Mash Bill on the front label, which is very rare.

676
00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,040
That is 78% corn.

677
00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:45,040
78.

678
00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:48,600
So it's got 18% wheat and 18% malt.

679
00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,000
That math does not add up.

680
00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,200
Well, it says the Mash Bill is 178%.

681
00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,080
OK, there it does.

682
00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:57,080
So it doesn't add up.

683
00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:58,080
It does.

684
00:20:58,080 --> 00:20:59,080
I'm kidding.

685
00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:00,080
It should be 100.

686
00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:01,080
If it isn't 100, somebody really fucked up.

687
00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:02,080
It's 78 and 28.

688
00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:03,080
And then another.

689
00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:04,080
Maybe I just can't read.

690
00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:05,080
That could be.

691
00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:14,080
Anyway, so let's remind our listeners what's a regular bourbon versus a weeded bourbon?

692
00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:15,760
What is replaced?

693
00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:16,760
The rye.

694
00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:18,640
The rye is typically replaced with wheat.

695
00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:19,640
With wheat.

696
00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:20,640
Yeah.

697
00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,720
There are some people who don't favor rye.

698
00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:23,720
Yeah.

699
00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:24,720
Correct.

700
00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:32,360
I like them both, but I prefer wheat simply because I, my taste buds perceive wheat to

701
00:21:32,360 --> 00:21:33,360
be smoother.

702
00:21:33,360 --> 00:21:34,360
Grassy.

703
00:21:34,360 --> 00:21:35,360
It can be.

704
00:21:35,360 --> 00:21:36,360
It's got a little taste.

705
00:21:36,360 --> 00:21:37,360
If you get too much wheat in there, it can't.

706
00:21:37,360 --> 00:21:38,360
It's like you're munching on.

707
00:21:38,360 --> 00:21:39,360
Well, if you get too much.

708
00:21:39,360 --> 00:21:40,360
You're going to feel munching on that.

709
00:21:40,360 --> 00:21:45,360
If you get too much, you're going to feel munching on.

710
00:21:45,360 --> 00:21:48,360
I had the Oregon spirits, which is a.

711
00:21:48,360 --> 00:21:49,360
That's wheat whiskey.

712
00:21:49,360 --> 00:21:50,360
Oh, good Lord.

713
00:21:50,360 --> 00:21:51,360
That's not even a bourbon.

714
00:21:51,360 --> 00:21:52,360
That was.

715
00:21:52,360 --> 00:21:53,360
While you guys were complaining about it, I was like, I'm drinking life cereal and getting

716
00:21:53,360 --> 00:21:54,360
drunk doing it.

717
00:21:54,360 --> 00:21:55,360
That was a different one.

718
00:21:55,360 --> 00:21:56,360
Yeah, that's pretty doughy.

719
00:21:56,360 --> 00:21:57,360
I loved it.

720
00:21:57,360 --> 00:21:58,360
All right.

721
00:21:58,360 --> 00:21:59,360
All right.

722
00:21:59,360 --> 00:22:00,360
So you've never been, have you ever been a, you're a rum drinker, right?

723
00:22:00,360 --> 00:22:03,600
So you didn't partake in the tasting of the bourbon tonight, which is totally cool.

724
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,520
But were you ever a bourbon drinker?

725
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:06,520
Never.

726
00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:08,160
Always rum or do you start?

727
00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:09,160
Oh, no.

728
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,440
I've had a lot of crazy things.

729
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,560
Go back to Seagram seven.

730
00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,560
That's a whiskey.

731
00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,200
I drank whiskey.

732
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:18,200
I drank vodka.

733
00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:19,200
I drank vodka.

734
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:26,360
I can't imagine that you haven't tried everything on the planet, given some of your upbringing.

735
00:22:26,360 --> 00:22:27,360
Gin.

736
00:22:27,360 --> 00:22:30,880
I drank gin the longest before I got on the rum.

737
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:31,880
I drank gin.

738
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:33,840
We haven't gotten to the gins yet.

739
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:35,680
You got to get it really like gin.

740
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:39,080
Allen has a very storied history when it comes to bars.

741
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:40,560
Well, I was raised behind one.

742
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:41,560
Literally.

743
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:42,560
Literally raised behind a bar.

744
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:48,080
The only place for my living room to the stock room where they kept all the beer and the

745
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,800
liquor and everything in was 10 feet.

746
00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:52,800
Right.

747
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:54,280
So you went from there.

748
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:57,720
Well, no, actually with a living room, we opened one door and then there was the storage

749
00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:58,960
room to go into the bar.

750
00:22:58,960 --> 00:22:59,960
Right.

751
00:22:59,960 --> 00:23:01,840
So your parents owned and ran.

752
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,320
It was actually my grandparents.

753
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,320
In a bar in Pueblo.

754
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:07,320
That's correct.

755
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,320
Thirty three years over the Colorado Colorado.

756
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:11,320
Yes, sir.

757
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:12,320
Pueblo.

758
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:13,320
Pueblo, Colorado.

759
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:14,320
Yeah.

760
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:15,560
Isn't that where the PSA has come from?

761
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:16,560
Yes, it is.

762
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:17,560
Yes.

763
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:18,560
What does that mean?

764
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:19,560
What?

765
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:20,560
What do you think?

766
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:24,920
Yes, Postal Service is talking about the PSA is I'd always say PSA from Pueblo, Colorado.

767
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:25,920
Yeah.

768
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:31,760
Well, it's the big, we have the big post office got the big place where the big distribution

769
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,240
center for everything that comes in there and goes distributing.

770
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,440
And sending it out on trucks and stuff.

771
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:37,440
Okay, cool.

772
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:38,440
Yeah.

773
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:43,040
But so the bar so you grew up literally your grandparents on the bar, your parents then

774
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:44,040
took it over.

775
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,680
My mother, my mother worked in New York.

776
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:47,680
You were working the bar.

777
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:53,320
I mean, how bartender how like what like five years old, 10 years old, nine, nine.

778
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:57,840
So at nine, that's that's old enough where you could start doing things.

779
00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:59,840
Stocking playing pool.

780
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,840
No, you know, there you go.

781
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,440
That's where I started.

782
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:05,440
I started playing pool.

783
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:06,440
I used to have to stand on a chair.

784
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:07,440
That's not only insane.

785
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:08,440
It's unfair.

786
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:13,840
It's unfair for the rest of us who try to compete with you because why?

787
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,360
Because you want to stand on a chair too?

788
00:24:16,360 --> 00:24:19,320
Well, well, maybe it might help my game.

789
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,640
I have to get that some thought.

790
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:25,200
But if you try to do that with a nine year old kid today, that call Social Services,

791
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:26,200
probably would.

792
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,600
Yeah, well, actually, because you were doing shots of something.

793
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:32,880
I think if you if it's a family business, you're able to get your kids to work it.

794
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:33,880
Of course.

795
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,960
Well, back then, they didn't even back then things were different.

796
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:37,960
These things were different.

797
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:39,120
They didn't even bat an eye at that.

798
00:24:39,120 --> 00:24:41,360
It was an ABA that was going to turn your parents in.

799
00:24:41,360 --> 00:24:45,280
I'll tell you what, there's nothing nastier than a beer.

800
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:46,280
Everybody smoked back then.

801
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:47,280
Oh, yeah.

802
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,960
I mean, everybody smoked, especially at a bar.

803
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,440
So you had to drink in one hand and cigarette in the other.

804
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:53,440
Oh, yeah.

805
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:58,520
And when you get beer in an ashtray with ashes with a cigarette floating in it.

806
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,600
There's nothing smells worse than that.

807
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:04,360
I just got to tell you, oh, it was nice to clean the bathrooms.

808
00:25:04,360 --> 00:25:05,840
And that was just as bad as the bathroom.

809
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:09,000
Well, people throwing up every night and whatever they did.

810
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:10,680
I'll tell you what, people are nasty.

811
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:14,160
You'd be surprised what people do in a bathroom.

812
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:15,640
You'd be surprised in a bar and a bathroom.

813
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:16,640
Shit in it.

814
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:17,640
Oh, shit.

815
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,600
There's a lot of things they probably do to other other stuff, too.

816
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,680
The sink was in someplace where you just wash your hands.

817
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,160
Oh, that's where you clean the pipes.

818
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:27,160
No, gosh, terrible.

819
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:28,920
What do you mean clean the what?

820
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:29,920
What are you saying?

821
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,000
Drop your junk in it and just like your junk in it.

822
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:33,000
Get a froth going.

823
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:34,000
Good Lord.

824
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,000
Clean your pipe in a sink.

825
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,880
Whip up a batch of frothy plants.

826
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:41,280
The door and people like to do.

827
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:42,760
Oh, I'm taking a shit here.

828
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:43,760
Sorry.

829
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:44,760
Give me just just a second.

830
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:45,760
I'm staring at myself.

831
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,600
But I had to do that every morning before I went to school.

832
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:49,600
What?

833
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,080
Go to the bathroom and guys, think about clean the bar up.

834
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:53,080
Oh, please.

835
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,560
Oh, what were you doing when you were nine years old?

836
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,120
I don't know.

837
00:25:57,120 --> 00:25:58,480
I lived in Germany before school.

838
00:25:58,480 --> 00:25:59,480
I was sleeping.

839
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:00,480
No shit.

840
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:01,480
That's insane.

841
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:05,920
Well, again, that was in the that was in the late 50s, right?

842
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:06,920
Yeah.

843
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:07,920
When was that?

844
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:09,680
Our mid 50s at 10 years old.

845
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:11,480
I've been nineteen fifty nine.

846
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:12,480
Yeah.

847
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:13,600
So fifty eight.

848
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:17,920
That it's not acceptable, but it's kind of quasi is.

849
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:19,480
I mean, you can get away with it back then.

850
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:25,360
You know, so you went to your parents to the pathway or what was the process of you moving

851
00:26:25,360 --> 00:26:26,360
in with your grandparents?

852
00:26:26,360 --> 00:26:27,360
No, no.

853
00:26:27,360 --> 00:26:28,360
My parents lived there, too.

854
00:26:28,360 --> 00:26:29,360
OK.

855
00:26:29,360 --> 00:26:30,840
So it was a whole family thing.

856
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:35,080
There was actually in this small place, which wasn't any bigger than this whole area right

857
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:43,360
here where you were all I had had my my grandma, grandpa, my mom, my mom and dad, two sisters,

858
00:26:43,360 --> 00:26:49,960
a brother, an uncle and an aunt and me.

859
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:54,200
So that was eight of us counting your fingers.

860
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:58,880
I mean, that's pretty tight.

861
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,840
So where do you have like your gaming system and your Xbox and stuff like your media room?

862
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:03,840
They did have.

863
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:04,840
Where was your media room?

864
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:08,400
They had a rubber ball and some jacks, maybe some dominoes.

865
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:12,560
Actually, they had a they had a round circle stick might even had ran down the street.

866
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:16,960
But what we had was where you you hold hands and skip.

867
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,400
And the other thing was where you chalk where you did hopscotch hopscotch.

868
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:20,400
Oh, yeah.

869
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:21,400
Oh, yeah.

870
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:22,400
I used to play hopscotch.

871
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,400
So what did you say?

872
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:25,720
Hold your hands and skip.

873
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,600
Is that a thing?

874
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,840
So if I were to be a Paul Jeff, come over here.

875
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:30,840
I want you guys to hold hands.

876
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:31,840
I want you to skip down the road.

877
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:32,840
See how far you get.

878
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:33,840
You don't have to sound like you're from New Jersey.

879
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:35,840
I did that to one of my golfing buddies.

880
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:37,640
Normally he was giving me a hard time.

881
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:39,240
I said, but you want to hold hands and skip?

882
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,040
And he goes, if you don't know how to skip, I'll do it.

883
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,040
I said, I can still skip.

884
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,520
That's the fastest way to break a hip right here.

885
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:52,120
So seriously, what so did you have time to play games as a kid?

886
00:27:52,120 --> 00:27:53,760
I mean, were you always working the bar?

887
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,920
The only thing I did every day is I shot baskets all day.

888
00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:59,520
You were a basketball psych.

889
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,040
Did you play for your school?

890
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:02,280
I played.

891
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:06,640
I did up through junior high when I got into high school.

892
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:12,600
I went to you guys call that today where you go where you have for people traveling and

893
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,080
they play the same sport.

894
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:15,520
What do you call that here?

895
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:16,520
A league?

896
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:17,520
Travel team.

897
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:18,520
Travel team.

898
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,600
Well, no, but it's like an elite team or whatever you want to call it.

899
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:21,600
Oh, select basket.

900
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:22,600
Yes, sir.

901
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:23,600
Yes, sir.

902
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:24,600
So I didn't play.

903
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:29,000
I didn't play for the high school after my soft soft freshman year freshman year.

904
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,000
I can't remember.

905
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:34,880
It's been a long time ago, but I played for the select team throughout for the rest of

906
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:35,880
my high school.

907
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:36,880
Was it like a city?

908
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:37,880
A city team?

909
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:38,880
Yeah.

910
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:39,880
So we played at the armory.

911
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,880
We played at the armory.

912
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:42,880
OK.

913
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:43,880
And you had some.

914
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:44,880
We played.

915
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:51,280
You had some very talented, large African American teammates on that team.

916
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:52,280
Did you not?

917
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:53,280
We had we played.

918
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:54,760
You guys were beast.

919
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:59,400
We played the at that time, Central High School, and we played this.

920
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:04,720
I'm not sure it was the starting lineup, but people on the varsity.

921
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:05,720
On a scrimmage game.

922
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:09,880
Of course, after we beat them, they said that they that they weren't really trying because

923
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:11,760
we weren't part of anything with that.

924
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:12,760
Right.

925
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:13,760
Of course.

926
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:14,760
Oh, so they weren't trying.

927
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:15,760
So they had their second string in.

928
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:16,760
Yeah, that's right.

929
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:17,760
That's what they claimed.

930
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,760
They got beat because they got beat.

931
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:20,760
Right.

932
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:21,760
And they beat them pretty good, actually.

933
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,320
Yeah, it was really different.

934
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:27,440
I mean, you do a lot of things differently than that kind of game and that kind of stuff.

935
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,560
Well, first off, they didn't have a three point line.

936
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:34,520
But I and you shot everything past a three point line and still average twenty seven

937
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:35,520
points a game.

938
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:40,480
Well, you have to when you're I mean, Alan, look, you're not six foot.

939
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:41,480
So five foot eight.

940
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:45,820
When you when you're playing basketball with taller folk, you got to launch it.

941
00:29:45,820 --> 00:29:46,820
You have to play.

942
00:29:46,820 --> 00:29:48,560
That's those are the guys that.

943
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,280
Well, back then, back in the 50s, did they have the seven footers?

944
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:52,280
Oh, yes.

945
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:56,000
I played against the seven footers in high school.

946
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,280
I've got a seven footer.

947
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:58,720
Seven footers are rare anyway.

948
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,680
But but but the point is these guys are all six, six, six, seven.

949
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:03,680
They're big boys.

950
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:04,680
Were they back then?

951
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:05,680
Six, nine.

952
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:06,680
So you got a you got a Weasley.

953
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,480
Well, Chamberlain was six, seven.

954
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:09,480
Well, Chamberlain was.

955
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:10,480
Right.

956
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:11,480
Bill Bradley.

957
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:12,480
And he was a freak of nature.

958
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:13,480
Right.

959
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:14,480
But who?

960
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:15,480
What about Oscar Robinson?

961
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:16,480
How tall was he?

962
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:17,480
Oh, he wasn't very tall.

963
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:18,480
I say six, two.

964
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:19,480
That's what I mean.

965
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:20,480
That was in the 60s.

966
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:21,480
Jerry West.

967
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,040
I'll tell you, was he way off?

968
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:24,040
What?

969
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:25,040
Four foot ten or eight.

970
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:29,320
I'd say the smallest guy on that Lakers team, which you're talking about when you talk about

971
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:30,680
them guys was Gail Goodrich.

972
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:32,440
And I think he was like six foot.

973
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:33,440
That's what I mean.

974
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:37,480
I mean, were the were the basketball teams they weren't like they are now, were they

975
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:38,960
average size is six, eight?

976
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:39,960
Correct.

977
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:40,960
No, no, no.

978
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:41,960
Right.

979
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:42,960
Players on average are definitely taller now.

980
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:43,960
It's just like football.

981
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:44,960
Taller and bigger.

982
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:45,960
Just like football.

983
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:50,800
Yes, it's like football where you see these these Super Bowl teams of the 70s, 60s, 80s.

984
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:51,800
Yes.

985
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:53,800
Where their offensive line, the average weight is 250.

986
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:55,840
The human body has evolved.

987
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:56,840
No question about it.

988
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:57,840
Yeah.

989
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,840
And the linebackers are bigger than the offensive line of those days.

990
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:01,840
Right.

991
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:02,840
Right.

992
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,600
So, you know, I my son played football.

993
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:10,840
He was an offensive line and he was I think when he was at college, he said he was he

994
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,760
was three ten, six, five, three, ten.

995
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:21,520
And Anthony Munoz, who is a Hall of Fame Hall of Fame tackle Cincinnati, yes, Cincinnati

996
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,520
nice was 280.

997
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,400
Well, maybe that's tiny now.

998
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,280
I mean, that's he wouldn't even make the line at the right point.

999
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:31,280
Right.

1000
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:32,800
Like I said, the human body has evolved.

1001
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:33,800
No question about it.

1002
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,760
And well, the key is they've got that big and they're fast.

1003
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,480
Yeah, they are.

1004
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,840
His speed is ridiculous how fast.

1005
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,760
So who is who there was a forget his name.

1006
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,760
I think AIDS.

1007
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:48,760
Magic Johnson.

1008
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:49,760
God bless.

1009
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,000
Which, by the way, Hudson apparently he doesn't have it anymore.

1010
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,000
He was six foot nine.

1011
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:54,000
That's impossible.

1012
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:55,000
No, it isn't six foot nine.

1013
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,080
Garter is not is not showing up on.

1014
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:58,080
Well, he has HIV.

1015
00:31:58,080 --> 00:31:59,080
He has HIV.

1016
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:03,400
No, they are saying he had he HIV is not detectable.

1017
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,040
Yeah, that's my point.

1018
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,240
And the reason why he doesn't have is because it's so low.

1019
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:13,320
Well, yeah, because he has he constantly, constantly has transfusions.

1020
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,320
So if he stopped that, it would come back.

1021
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:16,800
I don't know.

1022
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:17,800
Who knows?

1023
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:19,360
Maybe it's filtered its way out of the body.

1024
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:20,360
I don't know.

1025
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:24,760
So if he has one part, what they used to do with Mastery Johnson, if you guys knew this,

1026
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:28,960
but when he was playing, if he if somebody went by with a fingernail and you cut it,

1027
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,160
he started bleeding at any given point.

1028
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:32,160
Right.

1029
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,280
They had they pull him out of the game and have to get them where he completely stopped

1030
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,000
or covered up or else he couldn't play.

1031
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:38,000
Yeah.

1032
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,760
I remember that because that's what is this before it came out that he had it?

1033
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:45,400
Because once he came out that he had it, it was a big deal.

1034
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:46,400
It was.

1035
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:47,400
He still played after that.

1036
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:48,400
He did.

1037
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,280
People were kind of like, are you gay?

1038
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:51,600
Do you like taking up the poop?

1039
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,640
Oh, he got it from a blood trade fusion.

1040
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:57,400
These are these are country people that these are.

1041
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:58,400
I don't know.

1042
00:32:58,400 --> 00:32:59,400
That's the mentality.

1043
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:03,400
He was the first six foot nine guard guard.

1044
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:04,800
I'm an amazing.

1045
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,480
He's a he's he's good.

1046
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:07,480
Right.

1047
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:13,880
And you have to I say six, nine, pretty wealthy to to afford all those transfusions.

1048
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:17,840
And you know, I'm sure during that same period, there were plenty of people who had HIV that

1049
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:19,200
couldn't fight it like he did.

1050
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:20,200
Got AIDS and died.

1051
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:21,200
Oh, of course.

1052
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,200
He's careful getting AIDS from transfusions.

1053
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:24,200
Right.

1054
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:25,200
Yeah.

1055
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:26,520
Isn't that how he got it?

1056
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:27,520
No.

1057
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:28,520
How did he get it?

1058
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:29,520
He got AIDS.

1059
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:30,520
Was it from sex?

1060
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:31,520
Yes.

1061
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:32,520
He was cheating on his wife or whatever?

1062
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:33,520
Well, I mean, dude.

1063
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:37,400
Well, there are stories that he he slept with 13000 women.

1064
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,680
Will Chamberlain slept with over 20,000 women.

1065
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,840
These guys were sleeping with everybody in every city they went to.

1066
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:44,840
I mean, right.

1067
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,840
It's kind of like that song brand.

1068
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,840
You're a good one.

1069
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:55,920
You see, girl, you know, it's kind of like the that's about basketball players.

1070
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:56,920
You do look serious.

1071
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:58,920
Hey, look, I know.

1072
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,520
I know based on one of the bars that worked out.

1073
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,640
OK, Humperdick's in Los Clinas.

1074
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:04,640
They're closed.

1075
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:05,640
They went out of business.

1076
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,600
They fucked ripped a building down.

1077
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:13,920
They back in the early 90s, they would have it was kind of a hub.

1078
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:18,040
They had a lot of the Dallas Cowboy players that would show up there.

1079
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:24,840
And surprisingly, it was plus the Dallas Stars hockey link was a rink was right around there,

1080
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:25,840
the practice area.

1081
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:26,840
Right.

1082
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:32,720
And after the game, they would have these these Dallas parties.

1083
00:34:32,720 --> 00:34:34,040
It wasn't the Dallas Stars.

1084
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:39,400
It was the National Hockey League referees and umpires umpires.

1085
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:40,840
And they would show up there.

1086
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:42,800
And that's where this is this conversation.

1087
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,080
It's not evolving around players.

1088
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,480
It's evolving with the referees and umpires.

1089
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,120
You know, this was specifically for the NHL.

1090
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:50,600
It's just scandalous.

1091
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:52,040
And you're hearing it now, man.

1092
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,760
Look, first on dudes like a continue shot.

1093
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:55,760
We call Chris Berman.

1094
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:59,440
Oh, my God, these guys, these guys were horn dogs.

1095
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,400
I mean, just they were horn dogs, man.

1096
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,000
They would show up and they'd be like, I'm with the NHL.

1097
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,880
I said, oh, so what about the does it really matter?

1098
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,840
And they would always get the women and they don't care.

1099
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:14,000
They're like, oh, so you're the NHL is and then they do.

1100
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:15,000
They go home with them.

1101
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,000
What to the hotel?

1102
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,000
What a line, though.

1103
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,400
You could go anywhere to any bar and say, why can't we do that?

1104
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:20,400
What do you do?

1105
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:21,400
Right.

1106
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,400
I'll be like, I'm a I'm a major league umpire.

1107
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,640
Well, it's no really no big deal, but I am amazing.

1108
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:27,640
Yes.

1109
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:28,640
Well, you could go in there.

1110
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:29,640
You could buy like the big chess pad.

1111
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,760
I'm going to wear it to the bar.

1112
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:32,760
Where?

1113
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,920
No, no, that's not I'm going to call my friend something here.

1114
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:40,760
I think you can't click that pad and they call us to you.

1115
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:42,240
They're like, where are you wearing that chess pad?

1116
00:35:42,240 --> 00:35:45,160
I'm glad you asked you fine little lady.

1117
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:46,160
It's because I'm an MLB.

1118
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:47,160
I just came from a game.

1119
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:48,160
No, ma'am.

1120
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:49,160
I'm not seven foot two.

1121
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:50,160
I'm still wearing my February.

1122
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:51,160
All right.

1123
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:56,920
So the umpires and the referees slept with everybody.

1124
00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:01,880
It's a small microcosm of what is with the whole sports thing.

1125
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:03,840
They have group breaks.

1126
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:04,840
I don't think it's disgusting.

1127
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,720
I tell about opportunity.

1128
00:36:06,720 --> 00:36:07,720
It's not unlike rock bands.

1129
00:36:07,720 --> 00:36:08,720
Go ahead.

1130
00:36:08,720 --> 00:36:09,720
What were you going to say?

1131
00:36:09,720 --> 00:36:10,720
Well, they have groupies.

1132
00:36:10,720 --> 00:36:15,880
I mean, you have women that follow around these teams or athletes or any different cities.

1133
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:17,920
They know what hotel they're sleeping in.

1134
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:18,920
The whole shot.

1135
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:19,920
They all show up there.

1136
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,520
You have the you have this.

1137
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:29,840
There's just one groupie who got into getting a cast mold of penises of the rock stars.

1138
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,360
So she has him in like a trophy case.

1139
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:33,360
Yes.

1140
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:34,360
So she has like Mick Jagger.

1141
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,880
She like put her mouth like filled with plaster.

1142
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,560
Yes, that's what it was.

1143
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,320
She'd go in there with like foam.

1144
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:43,320
Hold still.

1145
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:44,320
Yeah.

1146
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:45,320
Oh, yeah.

1147
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:46,320
Don't move for a second.

1148
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:47,320
Okay.

1149
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:52,400
I'm going to put this thing in my mouth for a second.

1150
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,880
So she'd get these plaster cast of all these rock star penis.

1151
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:56,880
You said the same thing.

1152
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:57,880
I just we worded it.

1153
00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:58,880
I know.

1154
00:36:58,880 --> 00:36:59,880
It's horrible.

1155
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:00,880
That is horrible.

1156
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:01,880
You had sound effects.

1157
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:02,880
I did.

1158
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:03,880
And a face that wasn't quite.

1159
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:04,880
That's why we don't do video.

1160
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:05,880
Yeah.

1161
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:06,880
Wait a second.

1162
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:07,880
That's exactly why.

1163
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:13,080
So she convinced the people she slept with to she put plaster on their on their junk.

1164
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:14,080
Yeah.

1165
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:15,080
Yeah.

1166
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:18,160
She was a groupie back in that they call bullshit on this story.

1167
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:19,160
All right.

1168
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:20,160
Mr. Producer, look this up.

1169
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,400
Groupie that has cast plaster penises.

1170
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,200
I'm calling bullshit on this.

1171
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:26,200
What psycho?

1172
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:27,200
I saw a documentary.

1173
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:28,200
I think Jeff's right.

1174
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:29,200
I've heard the story.

1175
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:30,200
I saw a documentary.

1176
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:31,200
She's old.

1177
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:32,320
I mean, it's from like the 70s and 80s.

1178
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:37,320
She's got like the Rolling Stones.

1179
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:41,520
She's got like she's got Mick Jagger's mold.

1180
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:42,520
She's got a lot.

1181
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,360
So we have plaster.

1182
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:52,640
Cynthia, the plaster caster from a Cynthia was is an American artist and self-described

1183
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:59,200
recovering groupie who gained fame for creating plaster casts of famous persons erect penises.

1184
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:00,760
That's unbelievable.

1185
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:05,480
All Briden began her career in sixty eight by casting penises of rock musicians.

1186
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:06,480
Yeah.

1187
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:10,000
What you could go on Wikipedia rock musicians and prominent politicians.

1188
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,680
I see Joe Biden now.

1189
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:13,680
What?

1190
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:14,680
You didn't read that?

1191
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:15,680
It did not say Joe Biden.

1192
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:16,680
Scroll down.

1193
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:17,680
Scroll down.

1194
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:18,680
No, it didn't.

1195
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:19,680
It didn't say it.

1196
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:20,680
Scroll down.

1197
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:21,680
My bad.

1198
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:22,680
It didn't say that.

1199
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:23,680
List of cast scroll down.

1200
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:24,680
Oh, my Lord.

1201
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,680
She's got all the females.

1202
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,160
We'll pump the brakes.

1203
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:30,160
She's got females.

1204
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,360
Females don't have erect penises.

1205
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,520
Maybe it's like I guess those two.

1206
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:35,520
Yeah.

1207
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,240
How do you have an erect penis if you're a woman?

1208
00:38:38,240 --> 00:38:39,240
Well, you don't.

1209
00:38:39,240 --> 00:38:42,120
I can imagine it's a it's a taco mold.

1210
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,120
It's like a clitoris mold.

1211
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:45,120
Yeah.

1212
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:46,120
Yeah.

1213
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:47,120
So she got Jimi Hendrix.

1214
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:48,120
Huh?

1215
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:49,120
No, weddings.

1216
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:53,000
So are these in a museum somewhere?

1217
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:54,000
I don't know.

1218
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:55,740
I wouldn't want to see them.

1219
00:38:55,740 --> 00:38:56,740
You wouldn't know.

1220
00:38:56,740 --> 00:39:02,280
We'll go to the images and see if they have images of these things.

1221
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,400
What if they have a male section in a female section?

1222
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,160
Would you want to go see the female mold?

1223
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:09,160
Would you want to go play with them and see if they fit?

1224
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:10,160
The female mold?

1225
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,800
So go back and look at the images.

1226
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,000
I want to see what this thing looks like.

1227
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,280
That's Epcot where you can play with the.

1228
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:18,760
There's one right there.

1229
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:19,760
Oh my God.

1230
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:20,760
Ridiculous.

1231
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:21,760
What the hell is that?

1232
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,760
That one looks like a friggin elephant trunk.

1233
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,760
It's like bent and 45 degrees.

1234
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:30,160
If humans don't look very erect, no, if humans don't.

1235
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:31,160
Well, that's what happens.

1236
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:32,880
She was not very good at what she did apparently.

1237
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,120
When you cover them in plaster.

1238
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:40,400
It starts to go down after it's surrounded with plaster.

1239
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:44,000
OK, this is a gross story and I am sorry you ever brought it up.

1240
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,520
How do we know how we got into that?

1241
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:47,520
Yeah, I don't know either.

1242
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:48,520
Oh, John will talk.

1243
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:49,520
Alan, you see how this happens?

1244
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:50,520
The backstage queen.

1245
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:55,080
So if we gave you a topic list tonight, which we didn't, do you think this would have been

1246
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:56,080
on the topic list?

1247
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:57,080
No.

1248
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:58,080
Plastered pieces.

1249
00:39:58,080 --> 00:39:59,080
Plastered Cynthia plastic casters.

1250
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:00,080
We got to move on.

1251
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:01,080
All right.

1252
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:02,080
So we.

1253
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:03,080
Oh, goodness.

1254
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:04,080
How do you move on from that?

1255
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:05,080
What's our show?

1256
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:06,080
We can move on.

1257
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:07,080
What's our secret?

1258
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:08,080
Cockerings.

1259
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:09,080
All right.

1260
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:10,080
All right.

1261
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:11,080
All right.

1262
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:16,840
So anyways, we're talking about the the bar experience and you've grown up in the bar.

1263
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:20,240
And so, you know, when did you leave?

1264
00:40:20,240 --> 00:40:21,240
You joined the military at some point.

1265
00:40:21,240 --> 00:40:25,640
You were going to school and you joined the military as an option.

1266
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,680
Oh, there's a lot in between that.

1267
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:28,680
Well, yeah.

1268
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,420
I mean, so you went to high school, but you're playing a lot of basketball.

1269
00:40:31,420 --> 00:40:34,080
So imagine you were on the road a lot, right?

1270
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,160
Oh, just in the inner city.

1271
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:37,160
Moving around.

1272
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,400
Oh, so you weren't like out of state or anything.

1273
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:40,880
It was this inner city select.

1274
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:41,880
Yeah.

1275
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:46,480
And so you played a lot of basketball and played with a lot of big guys and you can

1276
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,000
hold your own and lots of confidence.

1277
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:54,120
But you had shared some stories about plus what was it?

1278
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,200
He was selling something out of a car.

1279
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:57,200
Yeah.

1280
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:58,640
I think it was school books.

1281
00:40:58,640 --> 00:40:59,640
Yeah.

1282
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,040
Was he selling school books out of a car?

1283
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:03,040
Educational material.

1284
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:04,040
Like encyclopedias.

1285
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,440
Or for underprivileged children.

1286
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:07,440
That's such a great story.

1287
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:08,440
Yeah, it was.

1288
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:09,440
Is that right, Alan?

1289
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:10,440
That's exactly right.

1290
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:11,440
Are you sure?

1291
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:12,840
Yeah, it was.

1292
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:13,840
They were playboys.

1293
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:15,520
There happened to be gin, too.

1294
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,440
I don't know why there would be gin and bourbon and rum.

1295
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:19,440
Hustlers.

1296
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,840
And did you sell magazines or was it just alcohol?

1297
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:23,480
No, it was all alcohol.

1298
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:24,480
All liquor.

1299
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:25,480
Out of a trunk.

1300
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:26,480
Not even beer.

1301
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:27,480
We didn't sell beer.

1302
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:28,480
We sold.

1303
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,400
Well, I mean, out of your trunk across the street from the high school.

1304
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:31,400
Alan was.

1305
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:32,400
It was like a food truck.

1306
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:33,400
He was an entrepreneur.

1307
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:34,400
Like a food truck.

1308
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,720
Alan, walk us through that.

1309
00:41:36,720 --> 00:41:39,800
What led you to being the largest Midwest distributor?

1310
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:41,760
Well, look, he grew up in a bar.

1311
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:43,440
He's selling people stuff all the time.

1312
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:47,800
So at some point, he's kind of like, well, hey, look, if I if I give this person something,

1313
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:49,880
they're going to buy it and I'm going to get cash for it.

1314
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:50,880
Oh, yeah.

1315
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:51,880
Well, here's how it starts.

1316
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,880
You have 16 year old kids.

1317
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:55,880
All right.

1318
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:56,880
I was 16.

1319
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:57,880
15, 16 years old, 17.

1320
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:04,640
Well, I was getting that when I was 17, but and you have all these Woodsy's every weekend.

1321
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,920
We have these Woodsy's.

1322
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:10,680
And so all the kids are all looking for liquor to take to the Woodsy.

1323
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:11,680
What's a Woodsy?

1324
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:12,680
Woodsy.

1325
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:13,680
That's what they were cast of.

1326
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:15,680
Yeah, that's what we called it back then.

1327
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:17,920
That's where you go down to the river in the woods by the.

1328
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:19,400
Oh, party in the woods.

1329
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:20,960
The party in the woods.

1330
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:21,960
Yeah.

1331
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:22,960
And you called it a Woodsy.

1332
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:23,960
They called it a Woodsy.

1333
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:24,960
And I've never heard you.

1334
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:25,960
It had a lake.

1335
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,160
It had like a lake or river.

1336
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:29,160
River.

1337
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:30,160
Yeah.

1338
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,360
I'd go to fire and drink some beer and whatever else.

1339
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,680
So they're all looking for liquor.

1340
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:36,680
Yes.

1341
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,960
All looking for something to take down there and they would pay anything to get it because

1342
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:41,040
they got a one shot.

1343
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:42,920
So where did you get the liquor?

1344
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,600
So did you steal that from the bar?

1345
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:46,600
No.

1346
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:47,600
No.

1347
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:54,200
So what we had what we had was so what we had was is that I had my best friend.

1348
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,520
Well, this guy named Mike Webber.

1349
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,200
His dad was a super alcoholic.

1350
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:00,600
I mean, this man did work.

1351
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:05,720
I mean, he he drank half gallons of I don't know what the hell it was.

1352
00:43:05,720 --> 00:43:06,720
Old crow.

1353
00:43:06,720 --> 00:43:10,560
And he I remember it cost like a dollar a half gallon or something.

1354
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,320
It was nasty.

1355
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,560
So and he didn't work.

1356
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:18,800
He used to used to used to be a bar back or that kind of or do dishes and all that kind

1357
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:22,680
of stuff and very, very poor side.

1358
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:28,680
So anyway, so all we did with him was to say, listen, we'll buy your liquor for you if you

1359
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:30,680
go buy liquor for us.

1360
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:31,680
Right.

1361
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:32,760
So he gets free.

1362
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:34,480
So he gets a free half gallon.

1363
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,200
So he go to the liquor store.

1364
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:37,200
We give him orders.

1365
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,280
I got I got where I got orders way before the weekend came.

1366
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,440
Oh, you have what sold.

1367
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:43,840
You're an entrepreneur.

1368
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,160
You knew what you need to think about it.

1369
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:47,960
I had a 1960 Cadillac.

1370
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:52,840
If you ever seen a 1960 Cadillac, it's got a trunk the size of this table right here.

1371
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:57,800
So for the listeners here, I mean, it was like five feet across and four feet deep.

1372
00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:58,800
I mean, that's an exaggeration.

1373
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,280
But still, it was bodies in there.

1374
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:05,280
And then we put put Styrofoam in there and built so you could lay the bottles in there

1375
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:06,280
so they wouldn't break.

1376
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:07,280
Nice.

1377
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:08,280
There you go.

1378
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:09,280
Just like that.

1379
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,000
Is that is that is that is literally in the fins on it?

1380
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:13,000
And was that convertible?

1381
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:14,000
Mine was blue.

1382
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:15,000
We call it the blue whale.

1383
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,600
Well, there's a blue one right there.

1384
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:19,000
Is that exactly the car, Alan?

1385
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:20,680
That I think except for the tires.

1386
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:22,680
Well, that's not quite I don't think.

1387
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:26,200
Yeah, there's are you sure is 1960 Cadillac?

1388
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:27,200
Yeah.

1389
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,160
So but it was like four door.

1390
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:30,760
I thought, OK, not to do.

1391
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:31,760
No, no, it was two door.

1392
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:33,800
That's the coupe Deville right there.

1393
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:35,560
Yeah, that's not a coupe Deville.

1394
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:36,560
It wasn't a coupe.

1395
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:38,440
There were there's different models of Cadillac.

1396
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,000
If I such a bad ass car.

1397
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,920
I'm jealous that you grew up in that era because those cars are awesome.

1398
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:44,920
Yeah.

1399
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:45,920
All right.

1400
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:52,200
And I saw you knew exactly how to to to to stack the merchandise so that it didn't get

1401
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:53,840
damaged.

1402
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:54,840
And what do you do?

1403
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:56,680
There was an empty lot across from the I mean, where'd you go?

1404
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:58,560
Now I was right on the corner, right?

1405
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,640
Caddy corner from where the school property was.

1406
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:02,640
Wow.

1407
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,520
They could actually see me from the third floor over there.

1408
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:06,640
I'm sure you're a ballsy mofo.

1409
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:07,960
I have no idea why I never got caught.

1410
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:09,600
I got to this day.

1411
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:11,320
I think about how stupid were you?

1412
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:12,960
You know, maybe not.

1413
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,200
Maybe the fact that you're right out in the open was the best thing.

1414
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:19,080
They're like, no one could be that ball hiding in a 1960 Cadillac.

1415
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:22,440
I mean, that's ball hiding in plain sight, right?

1416
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:23,440
Yeah.

1417
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,880
Anyway, so we'd sell that ice carry rolls of money like this.

1418
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,280
Plus, we had a liquor, our liquor, right?

1419
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:29,280
Yeah.

1420
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:30,640
But you take the first Jimmy the fish.

1421
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:31,640
Hey, how you doing?

1422
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,000
What's it like back then?

1423
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:37,880
If I remember correctly, I bought Jim Beam and Sonny Brooke were the two big bourbons

1424
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:38,880
you guys are talking about.

1425
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:42,640
Sonny Brooke, Sonny Brooke, Sonny Brooke was the big one.

1426
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:44,360
And so we could buy it for like five bucks.

1427
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:45,360
And that was a cheap.

1428
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,320
Those are cheap.

1429
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:48,320
Like I sell it.

1430
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,320
I sell it for ten dollars.

1431
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,200
Sonny Brooke saw it.

1432
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,840
Sell it for ten dollars on Thursdays and Fridays.

1433
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:56,520
No, Wednesdays and Thursdays.

1434
00:45:56,520 --> 00:46:01,160
And then it went up to 50 to 20 bucks on the closer it got to the weekend when they had

1435
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:02,160
to have it stuck it to them.

1436
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:03,160
They had to have it.

1437
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:04,160
I just charged them more money.

1438
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:05,160
You knew they were desperate.

1439
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:06,160
Yeah.

1440
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:07,160
Very nice.

1441
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,960
Well, plus I only had so much to sell.

1442
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:11,640
You bank all that money or what you do?

1443
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:13,400
Oh, no, is that it right there?

1444
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:14,400
You partied?

1445
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,000
Yeah, I couldn't even tell you.

1446
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,680
That's like the the original Kentucky Deluxe.

1447
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,520
The old Sonny Brooke is that a picture of it right there?

1448
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:22,520
That's it.

1449
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:23,520
So you you.

1450
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:24,520
That's it.

1451
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:25,800
So you didn't stockpile any of that money.

1452
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:27,640
You just burned through it like a regular teenager.

1453
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:29,440
Oh, yeah, we just spent money.

1454
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:30,440
A lot of it.

1455
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:31,440
What you buying?

1456
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:32,440
A lot of it.

1457
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:33,440
What you spending on?

1458
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:34,440
What you do?

1459
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:35,440
What you do with all that money?

1460
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:36,440
You were a big spender then.

1461
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:37,440
Who's whose Cadillac was it?

1462
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:38,440
Mine.

1463
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:39,440
You paid cash for it.

1464
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:40,440
You bought it in cash, baby.

1465
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:41,440
Bought it in cash.

1466
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:42,440
Yeah, five hundred dollars.

1467
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:43,440
Are you kidding me?

1468
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:44,440
Brand new?

1469
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:45,440
No, no, no, no, no.

1470
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:46,440
OK, I was going to say.

1471
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:47,440
No, I was 10 years old.

1472
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:48,440
No, not even 10 years old.

1473
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:49,440
Seven years old.

1474
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:50,440
Oh, I see.

1475
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:51,440
Right.

1476
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:52,440
OK.

1477
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:53,440
I think it was five hundred bucks.

1478
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:58,440
How much was a brand new Cadillac in 1960?

1479
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,440
Probably twenty five hundred bucks.

1480
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:01,440
Yeah, really?

1481
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:02,440
That's it.

1482
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:03,440
Three grand maybe.

1483
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:04,440
Are you kidding me?

1484
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:09,440
You could get a GTO back then, a GTO with the big engine.

1485
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:15,440
I forget the engine model number because I'm not a big car guy, but with that big it was

1486
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:16,440
a eight cylinder.

1487
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,440
Yeah, the three ninety, three fifty, blah, blah, blah.

1488
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,440
Yeah, that probably probably was.

1489
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,440
And you could get that for like three grand.

1490
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:24,440
Three.

1491
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:25,440
Find out what the number.

1492
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:27,440
How much so how much was a movie?

1493
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,440
How much did you pay for in a movie?

1494
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:31,440
Movie theater ticket ticket.

1495
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:35,440
Was it shopping like a dime a quarter?

1496
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,440
You know, I don't remember.

1497
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:38,440
Yeah.

1498
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,440
I mean, you took your girl to the movies.

1499
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,440
No, you never took your girl to the movies.

1500
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:44,440
No.

1501
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:45,440
What the hell?

1502
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:46,440
You had a girlfriend.

1503
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:47,440
We took him to the river.

1504
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:50,440
Oh, that's where it came from.

1505
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:54,440
With the van down by the river.

1506
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:55,440
Yes.

1507
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:56,440
Talking about spending money.

1508
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:57,440
Cadillac.

1509
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:01,440
We used to have a lot of parties because we had all the liquor and stuff and everybody

1510
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,440
come over and have parties and stuff like that.

1511
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:04,440
Oh, yeah.

1512
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:05,440
Oh, for sure.

1513
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:06,440
That's where it started.

1514
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:07,440
There you go.

1515
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:10,440
Sonny, a Trans Am 1969.

1516
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:12,440
One of the coolest cars.

1517
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:15,440
Four thousand three hundred sixty six dollars back then.

1518
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:17,440
Sunnybrook still exists at specs.

1519
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:18,440
We're going to buy it.

1520
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:19,440
Are you kidding me?

1521
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:20,440
We're going to try it on the next podcast.

1522
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,440
Eight dollars and sixty two cents.

1523
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:24,440
But Jeff, I get to buy it this time.

1524
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:25,440
Is it really eight bucks?

1525
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,440
I get to buy this time because that's usually what you spend.

1526
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:29,440
That twelve bucks.

1527
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:30,440
I usually spend.

1528
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:34,440
I did that once because I wanted to get that to force you to drink it.

1529
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:35,440
Just to give you a little background.

1530
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,440
So every Friday, right, we go.

1531
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:38,440
I told you this.

1532
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:39,440
We go.

1533
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:40,440
We go to the to the alcohol store.

1534
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:41,440
I met you there once.

1535
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:42,440
Yes.

1536
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:43,440
Yeah.

1537
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,440
And we buy and we buy bourbons for the podcast.

1538
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:50,440
And I'm looking at the 90, probably hundred hundred and ten dollars bourbon bullshit.

1539
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:51,440
Right.

1540
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:54,440
And then and then Jeff's Yank and stuff off the shelf at 1399.

1541
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:55,440
That's Evan.

1542
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,440
Evan Williams White label.

1543
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:58,440
Nine ninety nine.

1544
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:00,440
Sometimes he ventures into the twenty one ninety nine.

1545
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:01,440
Twelve ninety nine for that.

1546
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:02,440
Seriously, bro.

1547
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:06,440
And I got that because that is your demon bourbon right there.

1548
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:07,440
We're not talking about demon bourbon.

1549
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:09,440
And I didn't drink any of that.

1550
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:12,440
Actually, what you can do, you can take that shot of Sunnybrook.

1551
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:13,440
OK.

1552
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:17,440
And Walter's beer, because we had Walter Distillery in Pueblo at that time.

1553
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:18,440
All right.

1554
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:19,440
So we have a tonic here.

1555
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:23,440
Seventy five cents, fifty cents for the shot and twenty five cents for the beer.

1556
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:28,440
And the beer was like gigantic, like around four miles, like 16 ounce tanker.

1557
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:29,440
Yeah.

1558
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:30,440
Sixteen ounces, maybe something like that.

1559
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,440
Yeah.

1560
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:33,440
Seventy five cents.

1561
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:34,440
Wow.

1562
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:35,440
Yeah.

1563
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,440
Today, that's twenty eight dollars.

1564
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,440
Unless you're at the football game.

1565
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:41,440
That is fifty dollars.

1566
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:43,440
No, nineteen eighty eight.

1567
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:50,440
I was working a bar in El Paso and beers were a dollar seventy five.

1568
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:57,440
When I was going to college, eighty eight time frame, you get a picture for two to four bucks,

1569
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:00,440
and you're like, oh, that's a lot of money.

1570
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:01,440
Yeah, we had dollars.

1571
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:02,440
How much you wanted to splurge?

1572
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:03,440
We had dollars.

1573
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:04,440
Seventy five pictures.

1574
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:05,440
It's crazy how everything just went so fast, so high.

1575
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:06,440
Yeah.

1576
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,440
Now a picture is like twelve dollars.

1577
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:09,440
Yeah.

1578
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:10,440
Yeah, it's ridiculous.

1579
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:11,440
It's small pictures.

1580
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:12,440
Twenty dollars.

1581
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,440
And nothing's different in how they make it and how they bottle it and how they.

1582
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:19,440
Well, I mean, it's all about back then it was about getting people in the door, butts

1583
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,440
in the door, getting popularity.

1584
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:22,440
It's also where you're at.

1585
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:23,440
It's kind of their campaign.

1586
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:24,440
Yeah.

1587
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:25,440
We're here in the Dallas area.

1588
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,440
We're here at Stephen F. Austin and we're buying pictures of Jack and Coke for five

1589
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:29,440
bucks a pitcher.

1590
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:30,440
That's why I said, Sean.

1591
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:31,440
Yes, I went to the bar.

1592
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:32,440
There was like five dollars.

1593
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:33,440
Anything pictures.

1594
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:34,440
I was like, anything.

1595
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:35,440
Where was I?

1596
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:36,440
You're a tier one.

1597
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:37,440
Yeah, you were tier one.

1598
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:38,440
So you know what?

1599
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:39,440
That is your I wasn't invited.

1600
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:40,440
Don't give me this to the bar.

1601
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:41,440
They went there.

1602
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:42,440
I said anything.

1603
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:43,440
She was like anything.

1604
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:44,440
So I get a Jack Coke in a pitcher.

1605
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:51,440
She was like, if you can find a pitcher, you can have a Jack Coke in that pitcher.

1606
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:56,440
I do.

1607
00:50:56,440 --> 00:51:00,440
That's that's that's a whole like seven hundred and fifty milliliter bottle.

1608
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:01,440
Yes.

1609
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:02,440
Did you throw much?

1610
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:03,440
No.

1611
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:04,440
That'd been made.

1612
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:06,440
No, she put like half a bottle in one.

1613
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:07,440
They're losing money.

1614
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:08,440
Well, I don't care.

1615
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:13,440
I went over there and I scanned the bar and I saw an empty pitcher.

1616
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,440
Two and I did it to two.

1617
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:16,440
I was probably drunk before that.

1618
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:17,440
What does that mean?

1619
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:18,440
If you can find a pitcher.

1620
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:23,440
They only have so many pitchers and everyone was everyone was drinking that night.

1621
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:24,440
It was college town.

1622
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,440
All the college kids were buying their pitchers of booze.

1623
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:29,440
They call that binge drinking, right?

1624
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:31,440
I mean, we had any coin drinks.

1625
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:37,440
We would grab a handful of coins on the way out, literally just dip our hand into the coin jar.

1626
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:40,440
And that was we got shit based on that.

1627
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:41,440
Wow.

1628
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:45,440
I think Sean threw some people on the ground getting those two empty pictures.

1629
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:49,440
I you know, it was about being confident.

1630
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,440
Those are mine.

1631
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:52,440
You know, that's all it was.

1632
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:53,440
Really?

1633
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:57,440
I walked over there and they literally made it like 50 50.

1634
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,440
They poured.

1635
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:00,440
Did they fill it with ice?

1636
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:01,440
Watch them do this.

1637
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,440
Yes, they filled it with ice.

1638
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:10,440
They they took a bottle and they you know, they how they spin the bottle so that it pours better.

1639
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:11,440
Yes.

1640
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:16,440
And they were like, well, it was a lot of it came out about half a bottle.

1641
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,440
Oh my God.

1642
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:20,440
And then she was like Coke to top it off.

1643
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:23,440
And I was like, I had like tears.

1644
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:24,440
Are you tearing up?

1645
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:26,440
Are we guys hugging each other and stuff?

1646
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:28,440
He had a picture in a non weird way, which I would.

1647
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:30,440
He had a picture and I had a picture.

1648
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:31,440
Back to the table.

1649
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:33,440
So here you go.

1650
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:35,440
Are they still doing this?

1651
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:36,440
I guess.

1652
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:37,440
Yeah.

1653
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:38,440
OK.

1654
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:39,440
When we going?

1655
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:40,440
What the hell?

1656
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:41,440
Yeah.

1657
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:42,440
All right.

1658
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:43,440
All right.

1659
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:44,440
So on the bar, the base of Lakeview Bar.

1660
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:45,440
Yes, it is.

1661
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:47,440
Is that where you did in New Orleans?

1662
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:48,440
All right.

1663
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:49,440
So Alan has asked Mr.

1664
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:52,440
Producer to pull up the bar that he grew up in.

1665
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:53,440
Really?

1666
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:54,440
All right.

1667
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:57,440
So we're looking for Lakeview in Pueblo, Colorado.

1668
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,440
Lakeview Bar, Pueblo, Colorado.

1669
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,440
The address is 2330 Lake Avenue.

1670
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:03,440
All right.

1671
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:04,440
Look at that.

1672
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,440
He knows the address and everything.

1673
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:08,440
No pictures, I guess, though.

1674
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:09,440
No pictures.

1675
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:10,440
What do you want?

1676
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:11,440
We went in there, Alan.

1677
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:12,440
Apple Maps.

1678
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:13,440
We went in there, remember?

1679
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:14,440
Oh, of course.

1680
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:15,440
You want to go to Google Maps.

1681
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:17,440
Every time you go to Pueblo, you stop in there and reminisce.

1682
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:19,440
I still got my Bacardi and Diet Coke in there for $4.

1683
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:20,440
That's the reason why.

1684
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:21,440
But they're Alaska.

1685
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:27,440
So tell the story about the tragic story of what they did in that bar.

1686
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:29,440
What was there that they removed?

1687
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:30,440
Was it a gay bar?

1688
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:31,440
The bar.

1689
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:32,440
Yeah.

1690
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:33,440
Talk about it.

1691
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:35,440
Oh, they took out the bar, the old bar.

1692
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:36,440
Check this.

1693
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:37,440
Oh, wooden redwood.

1694
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:38,440
Mahogany?

1695
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:39,440
Yeah.

1696
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,440
And they took out the beautiful bar and the photographs was all the hand paintings.

1697
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:43,440
Yeah.

1698
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:44,440
The back.

1699
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:47,440
All across the top and the bar and the whole works and just got rid of it.

1700
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:48,440
Mosaic stuff.

1701
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:53,440
It was a big, big hardwood bar.

1702
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:54,440
Oh, yeah.

1703
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:56,440
All made out of redwood, cherry woods.

1704
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:59,440
Producer, you were still on Duck Duck Go.

1705
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:01,440
You got to go to Google.com.

1706
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:02,440
No, Duck Duck Go is good.

1707
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:05,440
Yeah, but Google is more efficient when it comes to some of these pictures.

1708
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:09,440
Yeah, but Duck Duck Google like only shows you what they want to.

1709
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:11,440
Oh, yeah.

1710
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:15,440
Unfortunately, I used to think this was the reason I wanted to see a picture, show you guys a picture of it.

1711
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:17,440
We thought this place was absolutely huge, right?

1712
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:18,440
Tiny.

1713
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:24,440
And then when you take eight people live in this thing where we work and then the bar was the biggest part of the whole building because everything was all in one.

1714
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:25,440
And the bar is not big.

1715
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:26,440
Yeah.

1716
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:27,440
The bar is tiny.

1717
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:28,440
So you've been there?

1718
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:29,440
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

1719
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:30,440
We've been there.

1720
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:31,440
The bar is tiny.

1721
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:32,440
Yeah.

1722
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:42,440
I used to think that was the tough I used to have to wax it every Saturday morning because all hardwood floors, wooden floors was an electric box waxed every Saturday morning was an electric buffer.

1723
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:43,440
There it is.

1724
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:45,440
There's a picture right there.

1725
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:48,440
So it's a bar Pueblo.

1726
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:49,440
Little paps.

1727
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:50,440
That's not it.

1728
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:51,440
It's a square bar.

1729
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:53,440
It's not a long skinny bar.

1730
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:56,440
It's a square bar.

1731
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:59,440
This pool table doesn't look right.

1732
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:01,440
Open that up, please.

1733
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:02,440
All right.

1734
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:03,440
Hold on.

1735
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:04,440
We're looking at pictures here.

1736
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:08,440
We're trying to find this iconic bar in Pueblo Lake View Bar.

1737
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:09,440
It's still there.

1738
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:11,440
Oh, it is still there.

1739
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:16,440
It's got so the it's got an all white out outer outer deal with blue letter.

1740
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:20,440
It's a classic Colorado Pueblo kind of building.

1741
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:21,440
Yeah.

1742
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:22,440
So the building is it really?

1743
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:23,440
Yes.

1744
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:24,440
All right.

1745
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:25,440
It's not Adobe.

1746
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:27,440
They call that Stucco Stucco.

1747
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:28,440
Yeah.

1748
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:31,440
The newer stuff is about EFIS.

1749
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:32,440
So switch to the satellite picture.

1750
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:34,440
Let's take a look at this.

1751
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:37,440
So anyway, so that's it's an older bar.

1752
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:39,440
There's your view right there.

1753
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:41,440
That's actually pretty big bar.

1754
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:43,440
I mean, it does look like a big bar.

1755
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:45,440
It fills the whole corner.

1756
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:46,440
I should look at that car.

1757
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:47,440
You see the car.

1758
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:48,440
It's not that big.

1759
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:49,440
You have anti-bebs.

1760
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:53,440
And that and the part that goes to the right is where they lived.

1761
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,440
The bar was right.

1762
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:57,440
Oh, what a trip.

1763
00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:58,440
That is a trip, man.

1764
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:00,440
So you live right there.

1765
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:01,440
I told you it was right next.

1766
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:06,440
I mean, there was only a door between there where they stored the beer and everything.

1767
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:09,440
So did you ever did you drink as a kid?

1768
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:10,440
Oh, yeah.

1769
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:14,440
So I mean, I mean, your parents were I mean, they're sure they they didn't condone it.

1770
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:18,440
But whereas there are certain allowance of drinking, they were, you know, were they in

1771
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:20,440
there drinking too and having fun?

1772
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:22,440
I mean, it's a business.

1773
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:23,440
It's family business.

1774
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:30,440
And unfortunately, when you own a bar, part of part of owning a bar is to build your clientele

1775
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:31,440
and to build clientele.

1776
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:32,440
You have relationships.

1777
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:33,440
You want regular.

1778
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:35,440
So you got to you got to have rapport with them.

1779
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:39,440
And you know, and your mother was a genius at that.

1780
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:40,440
Yes, she's very good.

1781
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:43,440
She worked there the whole time, the whole thirty three years over there.

1782
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:49,440
And the key there was is that and I have to tell you a quick story is that back then all

1783
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:52,440
the bars had to close at eight o'clock on Sunday night.

1784
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:55,440
So at eight o'clock on Sunday night, we used to go in there.

1785
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:58,440
That's when I get to clean it up and I have to worry about getting up on Monday morning

1786
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:00,440
at six o'clock in the morning before I went to school.

1787
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:01,440
You had to do all that.

1788
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:03,440
But it's where I learned how to dance.

1789
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:06,440
My mother put on the jukebox and she taught me how to dance.

1790
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:08,440
Every Sunday we dance to something different in there.

1791
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:12,440
Oh, how cool is they own the jukebox or she play all the different music, right?

1792
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:13,440
Like swing.

1793
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:14,440
I always remember that.

1794
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:16,440
Yes, swing music was really big then.

1795
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:17,440
Oh, big.

1796
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:18,440
Yeah.

1797
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:19,440
Rap.

1798
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:20,440
No rap.

1799
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:21,440
The beginning of rap.

1800
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:22,440
Cool.

1801
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:23,440
J.

1802
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:24,440
Cool.

1803
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:25,440
Now, I think that was the sugar gang.

1804
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:26,440
NWA.

1805
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:28,440
What did you listen to back then?

1806
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:29,440
Motown.

1807
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:32,440
I grew up on all our music.

1808
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:35,440
R&B music, which is what?

1809
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:36,440
Temptation.

1810
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:38,440
Except believe it or not, that bar was country.

1811
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:40,440
It was a country bar.

1812
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:41,440
Wow.

1813
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:44,440
So who would be the biggest name back then?

1814
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:46,440
Probably Johnny Cash.

1815
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:48,440
Waylon Jennings.

1816
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:49,440
Yeah.

1817
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:53,440
The old school, there's a tear in my beer.

1818
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:55,440
Hank Williams.

1819
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:57,440
The original Hank Williams.

1820
00:57:57,440 --> 00:57:59,440
No, no, no, no, think way back.

1821
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:00,440
Not the junior.

1822
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:01,440
Hank Williams.

1823
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:02,440
Hank Williams Senior is pretty way back.

1824
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:03,440
Who's Roy the He-Hall guy?

1825
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:04,440
Roy.

1826
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:05,440
Roy Orbison?

1827
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:06,440
No.

1828
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:07,440
Roy Rogers.

1829
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:08,440
No.

1830
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:09,440
Well, he was on He-Hall.

1831
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:12,440
The guy was a really good guitar player actually.

1832
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:14,440
I think it was Roy something or other.

1833
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:15,440
Yeah, I know who you're talking about.

1834
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:17,440
You tell us, who were some of the big artists, country artists that played there?

1835
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:20,440
I mean, you're not a big country fan, but you heard it in the bar.

1836
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:21,440
Loretta Lynn.

1837
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:22,440
Yeah.

1838
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:24,440
Is that that kind of stuff?

1839
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:25,440
Yeah, yeah.

1840
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:27,440
I didn't pay much attention.

1841
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:29,440
I never cared for that kind of music.

1842
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:30,440
No, you didn't.

1843
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:34,440
And then the other music that was going on at that time, the reason I ended up going

1844
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:39,440
to R&B so much was the other part was like Janis Joplin and all that type of music.

1845
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:41,440
Psychedelic shit.

1846
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:42,440
That stuff was crazy to me.

1847
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:43,440
Ew.

1848
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:44,440
Jimi Hendrix?

1849
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:45,440
Jimi Hendrix?

1850
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:48,440
Yeah, it kind of turned a corner with some of that.

1851
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:49,440
You really got to get into that.

1852
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:54,440
A lot of those guys were doing acid, just smoking too much.

1853
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:55,440
LSD was the big thing then.

1854
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:56,440
LSD.

1855
00:58:56,440 --> 00:59:01,440
But the thing is, if you're not doing LSD, outside of LSD, which is way, I mean, I'm

1856
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:05,440
sure, I don't know if they had mushrooms back then, but you know, the reefer they had

1857
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:08,440
back then was called reefer for a reason.

1858
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:09,440
I mean, it was just.

1859
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:10,440
What's that mean?

1860
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:11,440
It's pot.

1861
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:12,440
So.

1862
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:13,440
Reefer.

1863
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:18,440
The pot back then wasn't as potent as the pot they have nowadays.

1864
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:20,440
The pot they have nowadays is like.

1865
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:21,440
Can be really dangerous.

1866
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:24,440
Well, it's just, it's stronger is my point.

1867
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:29,440
So you can sit there and smoke a whole doobie and you'd be like, yeah, I'm just, I'm just

1868
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:30,440
chilling.

1869
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:31,440
They cross bread and everything.

1870
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:33,440
So now it's GMOs.

1871
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:34,440
Yeah.

1872
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:37,440
Well, they have hydroponics and all kinds of things.

1873
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:38,440
And it's just.

1874
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:39,440
It's Roy Clark.

1875
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:42,440
Oh, there it is.

1876
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:45,440
Did you ever have patrons smoke marijuana in the bar?

1877
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:46,440
Was that ever allowed?

1878
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:48,440
I don't ever remember that.

1879
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:51,440
No, I was going to say your mom probably kicked him out if that was the case.

1880
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:53,440
She was pretty firm with the customers.

1881
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:55,440
She didn't deal with a lot of bullshit.

1882
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:56,440
She partied with them too, right?

1883
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:57,440
She would take shots with them.

1884
00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:00,440
My mother used to drink gin and water.

1885
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:02,440
Oh, I tried.

1886
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:03,440
Hold on.

1887
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:04,440
That's awful.

1888
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:05,440
I'll tell you what.

1889
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:09,440
I went through a period where this is going to sound even worse.

1890
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:13,440
I drank gin and hot water.

1891
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:14,440
What is wrong with you?

1892
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:16,440
Hot water and lemon.

1893
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:17,440
Why?

1894
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:19,440
Were you fighting a virus?

1895
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:21,440
I had a sore throat.

1896
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:22,440
He was fighting COVID back then.

1897
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:24,440
I had a sore throat.

1898
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:27,440
And that's I had it in the house.

1899
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:28,440
And you know what?

1900
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:29,440
It tasted great.

1901
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:31,440
You were desperate and you tried it.

1902
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:32,440
It tasted really good.

1903
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:34,440
You put honey in it, you said?

1904
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:35,440
No, hot water.

1905
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:36,440
Lemon.

1906
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:37,440
I put lemon in it.

1907
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:42,440
I put hot water, like tea, because I was trying to figure out, you know, I want to do something in gargle or something.

1908
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:44,440
I started drinking this.

1909
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:46,440
And after a while, it started tasting good.

1910
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:48,440
And I was like, I'm digging this.

1911
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:50,440
Like after 10 of them?

1912
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:53,440
After 10 bottles, perhaps.

1913
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:55,440
So that became your drink for a while?

1914
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:57,440
Yeah, like for six months.

1915
01:00:57,440 --> 01:00:58,440
Oh my God.

1916
01:00:58,440 --> 01:00:59,440
During the wintertime.

1917
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:00,440
I mean, it tasted.

1918
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:01,440
You're nuts.

1919
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:02,440
It tasted good to me.

1920
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:06,440
You know, in fact, what I would do when I come home is I would turn on the coffee pot.

1921
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:10,440
And I would just run hot water and I would put coffee in it.

1922
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:13,440
I just run hot water, put it on the burner, leave it going.

1923
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:18,440
I'd make another drink, pour it, mix it with some gin, sit there with a little lemon.

1924
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:21,440
And I would sit there and drink it like a hot tea.

1925
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:22,440
Yeah.

1926
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:23,440
And it was good.

1927
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:24,440
I enjoyed it.

1928
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:26,440
So I had a gin and tonic and it was a one and done.

1929
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:28,440
I got to a party.

1930
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:29,440
Somebody handed me a gin and tonic.

1931
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:31,440
I had just come from Whataburger.

1932
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:32,440
No, no, no.

1933
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:34,440
I brought my Whataburger with me to the party.

1934
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:36,440
Gobbled my Whataburger down.

1935
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:37,440
I was so excited.

1936
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:40,440
Somebody handed me a gin and tonic.

1937
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:43,440
I drank it and I lost my Whataburger.

1938
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:44,440
Really?

1939
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:45,440
I'll never get it back.

1940
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:46,440
What?

1941
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:47,440
What's going on over there?

1942
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:48,440
I hurled.

1943
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:51,440
My whole Whataburger came up when I drank the gin and tonic.

1944
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:52,440
It was a one and done.

1945
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:54,440
Never again gin.

1946
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:55,440
Forget it.

1947
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:56,440
I think we're doing what with bourbon.

1948
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:57,440
We're getting to the gin now.

1949
01:01:57,440 --> 01:01:58,440
I'll tell you what.

1950
01:01:58,440 --> 01:01:59,440
I'm out.

1951
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:00,440
I was drinking gin and tonic.

1952
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:01,440
Nasty ass shit right there.

1953
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:06,440
Beef Eaters was like one of the first cliche gin drinks.

1954
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:07,440
Beef Eaters gin.

1955
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:08,440
Tangaray.

1956
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:09,440
I was drinking something else.

1957
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:10,440
Tangaray came around afterwards.

1958
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:11,440
It wasn't either one of that.

1959
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:12,440
Beef Eaters or Tangaray.

1960
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:13,440
Oh, a different kind of gin you mean?

1961
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:15,440
Yeah, it was a lot cheaper than that I think.

1962
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:16,440
It's called ass.

1963
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:21,440
But I was drinking gin and tonic and smoking cool cigarettes.

1964
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:22,440
Oh my gosh.

1965
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:23,440
Menthol?

1966
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:24,440
Were they menthol?

1967
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:25,440
Menthol.

1968
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:26,440
That's some super menthol.

1969
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:29,440
So what was the biggest seller out of your trunk?

1970
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:31,440
The biggest seller.

1971
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:34,440
The fastest moving merchandise item.

1972
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:35,440
Vodka.

1973
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:36,440
Vodka.

1974
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:37,440
You can mix it with anything.

1975
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:38,440
Vodka is so universal.

1976
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:39,440
You can't smell it.

1977
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:40,440
You can mix it with anything.

1978
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:41,440
To all these kids going home.

1979
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:44,440
And back then they even had a couple flavors.

1980
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:45,440
No.

1981
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:47,440
Yeah, they had like strawberry I think it was.

1982
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:49,440
I thought that was a recent thing.

1983
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:51,440
No, they had cherry vodka.

1984
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:53,440
It's all in circles.

1985
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:54,440
It was cherry vodka.

1986
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:55,440
I had no idea.

1987
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:57,440
Yeah, I remember that real well because I got sick on cherry vodka.

1988
01:02:57,440 --> 01:02:59,440
What was the gin?

1989
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:01,440
Was it like the Plymouth gin?

1990
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:03,440
He already said it was ass.

1991
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:04,440
No, no, no.

1992
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:05,440
He did not say it was ass.

1993
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:06,440
You said it was ass.

1994
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:07,440
That actually sounds pretty close.

1995
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:08,440
It was ass.

1996
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:09,440
Plymouth gin.

1997
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:12,440
There's a Booth's gin.

1998
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:14,440
Plymouth sounds pretty close to it.

1999
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:15,440
Gordon's gin came out in the 70s.

2000
01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:16,440
That's it.

2001
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:17,440
Gordon's?

2002
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:18,440
Gordon's gin.

2003
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:19,440
Gordon's?

2004
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:20,440
Okay.

2005
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:22,440
Yeah, it's got the gold label and kind of the square bottle.

2006
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:23,440
Yeah.

2007
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:26,440
That was the gin that you sold?

2008
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:27,440
No, that he drank.

2009
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:28,440
I was drinking.

2010
01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:29,440
Yeah.

2011
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:31,440
Oh, I thought you said your mom drank it and it was nasty.

2012
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:32,440
Why would you drink it?

2013
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:33,440
I drank it with tonic.

2014
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:34,440
She drank it with water.

2015
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:36,440
Look, everything is an acquired taste.

2016
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:37,440
It is.

2017
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:39,440
Once you start drinking it, I mean, hell, beer is.

2018
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:42,440
I mean, the first time I drank beer, I was going, have you lost your fucking mind?

2019
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:44,440
You guys are drinking this shit.

2020
01:03:44,440 --> 01:03:45,440
I'm with you.

2021
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:46,440
It was awful.

2022
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:47,440
There you go.

2023
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:48,440
See it?

2024
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:49,440
Yellow label.

2025
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:50,440
I still remembered it.

2026
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:51,440
That's it.

2027
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:52,440
It's got a Warthog on it or something.

2028
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:53,440
See, that's what we do, Alan.

2029
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:54,440
We do a lot of reminiscing.

2030
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:55,440
Arkansas.

2031
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:56,440
What is that product?

2032
01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:57,440
You know, those.

2033
01:03:57,440 --> 01:04:00,440
So it's made out of what kind of berry?

2034
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:01,440
Gin berry?

2035
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:02,440
Juniper.

2036
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:03,440
Juniper berry.

2037
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:04,440
That's right.

2038
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:05,440
Yeah.

2039
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:06,440
Juniper berry.

2040
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:07,440
It's very unique.

2041
01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:08,440
It's actually a.

2042
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:09,440
You still make that?

2043
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:10,440
It's actually a South African gin.

2044
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:11,440
Well, it says England.

2045
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:12,440
It says distilled and bottled in South Africa.

2046
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:15,440
What were you saying about a juniper berry they make?

2047
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:18,440
That's what gin is made out of.

2048
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:21,440
That's what all gins are made out of.

2049
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:22,440
It's the base.

2050
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:23,440
Aha.

2051
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:24,440
I had no idea.

2052
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:25,440
Yeah.

2053
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:26,440
The tequila is from the Blue Gabba plant.

2054
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:29,440
So that's why gin is so bad, because juniper berry sucks.

2055
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:30,440
Whoa.

2056
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:31,440
It looks good though.

2057
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:32,440
Gin is awful.

2058
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:33,440
Sorry, bros.

2059
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:36,440
You were really angry about losing that water burger.

2060
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:38,440
I lost that water burger and it was a hard night.

2061
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:40,440
I think we did try some gin.

2062
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:44,440
Just like we tried Evan Williams, you fought your demons and you got it down.

2063
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:50,440
These demons on this white label, Evan Williams, will be here for a while.

2064
01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:52,440
Thank you, Jeff.

2065
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:54,440
So you got this bar.

2066
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:58,440
You're in the 50s, 60s and you said it's a country bar.

2067
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:01,440
So like you were saying, you got Roy Clark.

2068
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:03,440
You got the old school stuff.

2069
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:05,440
So were you in there listening to all this music?

2070
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:07,440
We actually had a live band every weekend.

2071
01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:09,440
Really? Saturday night?

2072
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:12,440
Was it like Buck Owens kind of stuff?

2073
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:14,440
Yeah, it was...

2074
01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:20,440
I'll tell you what they had back then, country western music.

2075
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:22,440
They had that electric guitar, that twang.

2076
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:23,440
That's where that twang comes from.

2077
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:24,440
Slide guitar.

2078
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:26,440
It's an electric guitar.

2079
01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:28,440
It's like a guitar on four legs.

2080
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:32,440
And you can really twang that thing.

2081
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:34,440
You're talking about twang.

2082
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:36,440
So that's not a slide guitar.

2083
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:38,440
That's a harpist chord.

2084
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:39,440
Is that what it's called?

2085
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:40,440
No.

2086
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:41,440
Because they have a little metal thing.

2087
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:44,440
The guy that played the slide guitar, they put a little metal thing on their finger

2088
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:45,440
and they slide it.

2089
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:46,440
They hold the guitar normally.

2090
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:49,440
I thought that was a slide guitar when they were sitting down at the table.

2091
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:50,440
Yeah, right.

2092
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:51,440
I thought that was a slide guitar.

2093
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:53,440
They called it an electric guitar.

2094
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:54,440
I bet you.

2095
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:55,440
Look at that up.

2096
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:56,440
What's that?

2097
01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:58,440
Pedal steel guitar.

2098
01:05:58,440 --> 01:05:59,440
Steel guitar.

2099
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:00,440
Pedal steel guitar.

2100
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:05,440
It's a console type of steel guitar with pedals and knee levers that change the pitch of a

2101
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:09,440
certain strings to enable playing more varied complex music than just the regular guitar.

2102
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:14,440
Because the slide is when they held it like a normal guitar, slide guitar, and they just

2103
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:16,440
got a little thing that they put over their finger.

2104
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:18,440
Look up slide guitar.

2105
01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:24,440
Well, any guitar is a slide guitar when you have that little...

2106
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:25,440
Thimble.

2107
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:27,440
...little penis sheath over it.

2108
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:30,440
It's about that low like this when you bring it up and down.

2109
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:31,440
Finger sheath.

2110
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:33,440
That's a slide guitar.

2111
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:34,440
But hold on.

2112
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:35,440
Any guitar could be a slide guitar.

2113
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:41,440
So they have another type for the pedal steel guitar they have.

2114
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:43,440
Instead of having one that fits around your finger...

2115
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:44,440
They hold it.

2116
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:48,440
It almost looks like a roll of nickels.

2117
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:49,440
It's solid.

2118
01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:51,440
It's a solid piece of metal.

2119
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:52,440
Right.

2120
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:53,440
We just looked at that.

2121
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:54,440
No, they didn't show that.

2122
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:55,440
It's over the finger.

2123
01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:56,440
It's not over the finger.

2124
01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:59,440
You don't put your finger in it.

2125
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:00,440
You hold it.

2126
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:01,440
Well, that's kind of what they're doing.

2127
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:02,440
On the steel guitar.

2128
01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:03,440
That's right there.

2129
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:04,440
There it is.

2130
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:05,440
Right there.

2131
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:07,440
Oh, I see what you're saying.

2132
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:08,440
Okay.

2133
01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:10,440
And they did the same thing on the steel guitar this way.

2134
01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:11,440
Yes.

2135
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:12,440
They had this thing.

2136
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:13,440
They held it and moved it up and down.

2137
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:18,440
In fact, Mr. Producer, can you pull up an audio of Sleepwalk?

2138
01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:20,440
You're talking about the song Sleepwalk?

2139
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:21,440
Yeah.

2140
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:22,440
Oh, okay.

2141
01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:23,440
I've never heard of that.

2142
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:24,440
So this one is made with...

2143
01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:25,440
Is this Santo and Johnny?

2144
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:26,440
I don't know.

2145
01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:27,440
You didn't give enough information.

2146
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:28,440
I knew it was going to fail.

2147
01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:29,440
He said any Sleepwalk.

2148
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:30,440
Well, whatever.

2149
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:31,440
Just play it.

2150
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:32,440
Yeah, but how is that going to work?

2151
01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:33,440
Oh, that's Dick Clark.

2152
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:34,440
...you're about to meet their names in Santo and Johnny.

2153
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:35,440
Well, maybe...

2154
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:36,440
Now they're brothers.

2155
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:37,440
Now...

2156
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:38,440
Yes, now, my...

2157
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:39,440
Dick Clark.

2158
01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:40,440
...song.

2159
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:43,440
...is not coming.

2160
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:48,440
Listen to what songs were like.

2161
01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:49,440
There you go.

2162
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:50,440
There you go.

2163
01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:51,440
There's the steel...

2164
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:52,440
See, there you go.

2165
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:53,440
It's a classic...

2166
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:54,440
There we go.

2167
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:55,440
All right.

2168
01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:56,440
I'm going to retract.

2169
01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:57,440
You did...

2170
01:07:57,440 --> 01:07:58,440
You got this one.

2171
01:07:58,440 --> 01:07:59,440
I know.

2172
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:00,440
You think you got the babes?

2173
01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:11,320
This was a hot song.

2174
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:12,320
This song is still hot today.

2175
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:13,320
It's still hot.

2176
01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:14,320
It is.

2177
01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:15,320
It's a fantastic song.

2178
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:18,320
Oh, this song's right up your alley, Al.

2179
01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:21,880
He's jamming on that too, man.

2180
01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:23,440
I have that song on one of my playlists.

2181
01:08:23,440 --> 01:08:26,440
It's what he says Sleepwalk, I knew he was talking about.

2182
01:08:26,440 --> 01:08:27,440
Absolutely.

2183
01:08:27,440 --> 01:08:28,440
All right.

2184
01:08:28,440 --> 01:08:29,440
Very nice.

2185
01:08:29,440 --> 01:08:30,440
All right.

2186
01:08:30,440 --> 01:08:31,440
Thank you, producer.

2187
01:08:31,440 --> 01:08:34,440
And the women would love it too.

2188
01:08:34,440 --> 01:08:36,240
They'd be like, oh, look at...

2189
01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:37,800
You play the pedal steel guitar?

2190
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:39,520
Oh, he is so dreamy.

2191
01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:40,520
And you're wearing that jacket.

2192
01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:41,520
Yes.

2193
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:44,080
And your hair's all curled up and moose.

2194
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:45,080
With the dice.

2195
01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:46,080
It's got greased all down.

2196
01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:47,080
Oh, yeah.

2197
01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:48,080
Oh, what is up with that?

2198
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:50,080
Alan, what is up with the whole greasing?

2199
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:51,080
Was that your look?

2200
01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:52,080
Was that your look back then?

2201
01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:53,080
The Sha-Na-Na era.

2202
01:08:53,080 --> 01:08:54,080
Or the West Side boys.

2203
01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:55,080
West Side story.

2204
01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:56,080
West Side story.

2205
01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:57,080
They're all slicking their hair back.

2206
01:08:57,080 --> 01:08:58,080
So what'd you do to your hair?

2207
01:08:58,080 --> 01:08:59,080
Did you hit...

2208
01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:00,080
Was your hair all like...

2209
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:01,080
Did you have a D.A.?

2210
01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:02,080
What?

2211
01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:03,080
I didn't have much hair.

2212
01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:04,080
Duck's ass?

2213
01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:05,080
Yes, you did.

2214
01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:09,840
He had a duck's ass is what it is.

2215
01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:13,640
I comb my hair the same way I am right now except it had more of it than it went on the

2216
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:14,640
side.

2217
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:15,640
And it wasn't white.

2218
01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:16,640
It wasn't white.

2219
01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:19,640
It didn't turn white until I was 15.

2220
01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:20,640
Wow.

2221
01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:23,640
It's like a Vinnie Barberina.

2222
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:29,560
Yeah, but I'll tell you what, that hair...

2223
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:31,600
Think about Fonzie, what he did.

2224
01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:32,600
Oh yeah.

2225
01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:34,080
Fonzie and that part of it.

2226
01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:35,080
He never touched his hair.

2227
01:09:35,080 --> 01:09:36,080
He was the tough guy, right?

2228
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:37,080
Yeah, he was like, hey.

2229
01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:38,080
Oh yeah.

2230
01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:39,080
And that's what you did.

2231
01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:42,120
They had that black, that real heavy duty black hair and they put grease on it and it

2232
01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:43,120
was like, got something going back.

2233
01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:45,120
That's what the pillow looked like.

2234
01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:46,120
Yeah, grease.

2235
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:47,120
But only the guys...

2236
01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:48,120
The movie Grease.

2237
01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:51,120
Regular people in school didn't do that.

2238
01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:52,120
Oh, just the greasers?

2239
01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:53,120
It was like the gang.

2240
01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:54,120
A lot of greasers, didn't it?

2241
01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:55,120
How you say it?

2242
01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:57,520
I mean, they were like gangs.

2243
01:09:57,520 --> 01:10:00,640
They were like these cliques that did that, mostly Spanish guys.

2244
01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:01,640
Really?

2245
01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:02,640
Yeah.

2246
01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:03,640
Is that what they call them, greasers?

2247
01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:04,640
Yes.

2248
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:05,640
Really?

2249
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:06,640
That was the term you gave them?

2250
01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:08,680
Yeah, that's the term they had, yeah.

2251
01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:09,680
That was just a...

2252
01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:13,600
Yeah, that was the term, greasers, because they would have greasy hair and they would...

2253
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:17,720
Not just greasy hair, but they would use the products in their hair that would make it

2254
01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:18,720
extra greasy.

2255
01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:19,720
Like motor oil?

2256
01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:24,920
Perhaps, some sort of version of that, but probably something that's a little bit safer

2257
01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:25,920
for the head.

2258
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:31,720
But the idea was to take the hair and slick it back so it would stay.

2259
01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:34,080
I mean, you could be in a windstorm, shit ain't moving.

2260
01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:35,080
Right.

2261
01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:36,080
No.

2262
01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:37,080
And they didn't have hairspray, I don't think then.

2263
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:38,080
Whatever that was, they kept it there.

2264
01:10:38,080 --> 01:10:39,080
They probably had hairspray, I don't know.

2265
01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:40,080
Basically, it's like...

2266
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:41,080
I didn't use it, but I'll tell you what.

2267
01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:42,080
It's like petroleum jelly.

2268
01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:46,720
It's just, you know, once that thing coagulates, it's just like it's there.

2269
01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:47,720
You know, the freaking cannon.

2270
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:50,080
Anyway, but whether they were...

2271
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:53,960
I'm not saying only Spanish people, but if you were in that gang or that little...

2272
01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:58,640
Whatever they had, most of them, they called it gangs, obviously, like they do today.

2273
01:10:58,640 --> 01:10:59,640
The Jets, the Sharks.

2274
01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:05,320
There was white, Spanish, Italian, Spanish, Mexican, whatever, and that's exactly how

2275
01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:07,240
all the guys comb their hair.

2276
01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:10,360
But they were real gangs, though.

2277
01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:15,120
They really got into it with each other and there was real crime back then, right?

2278
01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:16,120
It's all tribal.

2279
01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:19,160
I mean, it's all, you know, in the inner city, depending on where you live.

2280
01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:21,200
I don't know how much that shit was flowing around in Pueblo, Colorado.

2281
01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:22,680
No, there's a lot of it.

2282
01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:23,680
Was there?

2283
01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:24,680
Yeah, tell some stories.

2284
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:27,200
You got the Italians and the this and the that.

2285
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:29,120
Pueblo was called Little Chicago.

2286
01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:30,120
Bulgarians?

2287
01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:31,120
No shit.

2288
01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:32,120
I never even heard about that.

2289
01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:38,080
I mean, now that we're talking about it, it makes sense because Pueblo is a big city.

2290
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:40,400
And it's in the center of the United States.

2291
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:42,320
150,000 people.

2292
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:46,200
So many there's so much influence because of all.

2293
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:51,760
I mean, that is a main vein for where all the train stations have come through.

2294
01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:57,080
So you have the opportunity for a lot of different ethnic ethnicities to evolve there.

2295
01:11:57,080 --> 01:11:58,080
So I can only imagine.

2296
01:11:58,080 --> 01:12:00,240
Well, the way they started their apartment.

2297
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:04,680
But what happened was when they built that steel mill, the integrated steel mill where

2298
01:12:04,680 --> 01:12:09,960
you brought iron ore and coke together, limestone, it's that gigantic one that you can see from

2299
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:10,960
twenty five, right?

2300
01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:13,080
And that's what that's what starts to make steel.

2301
01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:16,040
And then you bring it in there and then you get it to twenty two hundred degrees and you

2302
01:12:16,040 --> 01:12:17,040
start making steel.

2303
01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:18,040
Right.

2304
01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:20,640
But you had to bring all that in, especially the iron ore and the coal and the whole shot

2305
01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:21,640
into the mix.

2306
01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:22,640
Still correct.

2307
01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:23,640
Right.

2308
01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:27,160
Well, they didn't have nobody in Pueblo at that time to work there.

2309
01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:33,680
So like my family, my grandparents were brought over from Italy, came into New Orleans, not

2310
01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:35,640
in Rikers Island, but in New Orleans.

2311
01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:40,120
And then they made their passage to go to Pueblo, Colorado to work there.

2312
01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:41,120
That's how they paid their passage.

2313
01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:42,120
Oh, wow.

2314
01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:43,960
You have what they called the Bojans back then.

2315
01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:44,960
You had Italians.

2316
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:46,200
Who do they call it?

2317
01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:51,320
And then the Bojans, Bojans were Yugoslavian at that time is what they were from.

2318
01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:52,320
OK, as Yugoslavians.

2319
01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:58,920
And then you had the Spanish people, just literally spent Spain's Spanish, not Mexican

2320
01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:01,320
and indentured servants basically.

2321
01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:06,840
Or is that you and then you had a way through and you get to pay it back with the they just

2322
01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:08,960
got paid for coming over.

2323
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:10,120
And that's how they paid it back.

2324
01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:11,120
So they went to work.

2325
01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:13,640
My grandfather was like 12 when he went to work in the.

2326
01:13:13,640 --> 01:13:14,640
Yeah.

2327
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:15,640
14 when he worked.

2328
01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:17,080
That's that's an indentured servant.

2329
01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:20,640
Anyway, but to get to your point.

2330
01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:22,920
They all lived in different parts of the city.

2331
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:23,920
Right.

2332
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:24,920
Segregated.

2333
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:25,920
They were all segregated.

2334
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:26,920
Everybody was segregated.

2335
01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:32,160
Irish, the Bojans, the Italians, the white people, and they stayed segregated.

2336
01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:33,160
Yeah.

2337
01:13:33,160 --> 01:13:34,480
And you didn't mess around with that.

2338
01:13:34,480 --> 01:13:37,920
And the reason we never learned how to talk Italian in our house is because they didn't

2339
01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:43,000
want you to know the people in town know you were Italian because you were discriminated

2340
01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:44,000
against.

2341
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:45,000
Yeah, exactly.

2342
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:49,760
So what are some of your father's that don't don't speak Italian because you didn't want

2343
01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:51,760
you guys to be shit on or pick.

2344
01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:55,240
You don't want to say that or say, hey, don't speak of Italian.

2345
01:13:55,240 --> 01:13:58,120
Did he have a did he have a dialect?

2346
01:13:58,120 --> 01:13:59,120
Thanks.

2347
01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:00,120
No, it is.

2348
01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:02,120
It is quite like that.

2349
01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:05,320
But but the bad could read English.

2350
01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:07,680
The man never could read English.

2351
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:10,360
He could speak English, but he couldn't read it.

2352
01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:11,360
No.

2353
01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:15,720
But anyway, it's crazy.

2354
01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:17,840
My grandmother was one of 16 children.

2355
01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:19,680
My grandpa was one of eight.

2356
01:14:19,680 --> 01:14:22,960
It took him I can't remember, 10 years to get everybody into this country.

2357
01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:26,480
And then he talked about the Christmas.

2358
01:14:26,480 --> 01:14:28,800
I won't get into that whole thing.

2359
01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:31,840
But then they had all these families.

2360
01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:34,280
Imagine going back ahead of me.

2361
01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:35,280
Forty years.

2362
01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:36,280
Right.

2363
01:14:36,280 --> 01:14:39,040
Oh, me at that point.

2364
01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:43,600
And everybody and all these families and sisters and their kids and their kids all come into

2365
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:45,040
one place.

2366
01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:46,080
Right.

2367
01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:47,760
To have Christmas Eve.

2368
01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:55,240
Christmas Eve started in the afternoon and it didn't end till midnight on Christmas night.

2369
01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:56,240
Party party party.

2370
01:14:56,240 --> 01:14:57,240
It was fair.

2371
01:14:57,240 --> 01:15:01,440
Everybody playing cards, drinking the homemade wines, doing the nice work.

2372
01:15:01,440 --> 01:15:02,440
I was amazing.

2373
01:15:02,440 --> 01:15:03,440
That was family.

2374
01:15:03,440 --> 01:15:04,440
Oh, that's family.

2375
01:15:04,440 --> 01:15:05,440
Yeah, that's family.

2376
01:15:05,440 --> 01:15:07,760
And then that and you didn't do anything with friends.

2377
01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:09,360
You didn't do anything with like that.

2378
01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:10,360
That was it.

2379
01:15:10,360 --> 01:15:11,360
It was all family.

2380
01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:12,360
It was all family.

2381
01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:13,360
Hundred percent family.

2382
01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:18,600
So the the the tribal or the gang stuff is literally just people on the outside.

2383
01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:21,480
And you know, I don't know, you meet them at work.

2384
01:15:21,480 --> 01:15:23,440
Remember, everybody's so isolated.

2385
01:15:23,440 --> 01:15:24,840
Then you protect your turf.

2386
01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:25,840
Yeah.

2387
01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:29,480
Because you got something going on or somebody wanted to go mess with your sister.

2388
01:15:29,480 --> 01:15:30,480
Hey, who's this guy?

2389
01:15:30,480 --> 01:15:31,480
And he'd come from the outside.

2390
01:15:31,480 --> 01:15:33,480
Who's this guy walking down the street?

2391
01:15:33,480 --> 01:15:35,040
No, but you kind of made a point.

2392
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:38,600
It's like it's like outside a family, you go to work and they have some of them there.

2393
01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:40,920
No, no, maybe, maybe not.

2394
01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:41,920
You should answer that.

2395
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:47,600
Like even at work, like were they segregated, like beginning to end at the job, at the this,

2396
01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:49,680
at the that or no about the job.

2397
01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:50,680
I don't know that part.

2398
01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:53,680
OK, what about the bar?

2399
01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:56,080
I mean, yeah, not the bar.

2400
01:15:56,080 --> 01:15:57,080
Did they not let you bar?

2401
01:15:57,080 --> 01:15:59,760
So they not let like certain types of people in.

2402
01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:06,440
My parents bar was set, however, 10 blocks from the steel mill.

2403
01:16:06,440 --> 01:16:09,040
So all the people come in there and get off the graveyard shift.

2404
01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:11,880
They started there at seven o'clock in the mornings when they walked in there, because

2405
01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:14,320
that was their shift like you and I get up.

2406
01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:18,080
They started drinking at the bar at seven a.m. because they worked the night shift.

2407
01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:21,560
It was just like you and I working a day shift going in at five o'clock.

2408
01:16:21,560 --> 01:16:24,360
How you open at seven in the morning or you opened up at seven o'clock.

2409
01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:28,920
So I had to clean it at six because they were getting off and they'd be at the door waiting

2410
01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:29,920
to open it.

2411
01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:32,520
Oh, now were these other Italians?

2412
01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:33,520
They were all walks.

2413
01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:34,520
I was just my boy.

2414
01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:36,320
I was going to say there was a lot of different.

2415
01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:37,920
I mean, a lot of different.

2416
01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:38,920
Everybody was different then.

2417
01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:40,640
It was people wanted to come together and drink.

2418
01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:41,800
It didn't matter where you're from.

2419
01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:43,760
They sit there and drink those seventy five cents shot.

2420
01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:44,760
Maybe they call the Boilermakers.

2421
01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:49,600
You know, they started dropping shots and drinks back back when I was grown up.

2422
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:50,600
Right.

2423
01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:54,480
You know, they talk about now where you deal with makers are that was a popular drink.

2424
01:16:54,480 --> 01:16:56,240
Yeah, I was a boy maker.

2425
01:16:56,240 --> 01:16:58,560
You were a man when you were a boy.

2426
01:16:58,560 --> 01:17:02,400
But it was so it's a shot of something dropped into a shot of whiskey.

2427
01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:04,760
A beer dropped in a Tony Brooke.

2428
01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:07,000
Tony Brooke and Jim Beam was the biggest thing.

2429
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:10,280
You shot of Seagram seven, Seagram seven.

2430
01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:12,760
If you wanted something smooth, smoother.

2431
01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:13,760
Right.

2432
01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:19,520
A shot of Sonny Brooke dropped into a glass of beer, Walter's beer or and then you chug

2433
01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:20,520
the whole thing.

2434
01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:22,760
Miller beer, Miller High Life back then.

2435
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:25,280
I don't think I've ever tried the Budweiser together.

2436
01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:26,280
All right.

2437
01:17:26,280 --> 01:17:27,280
I mean, it's challenging.

2438
01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:28,960
It's fantastic.

2439
01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:32,720
It was just one of those things that, you know, it was free.

2440
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:34,200
Oh, you know, they did it.

2441
01:17:34,200 --> 01:17:37,080
It's probably like, hey, I'm going to buy you a shot of beer.

2442
01:17:37,080 --> 01:17:38,080
This is this.

2443
01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:39,080
Let's just down this real quick.

2444
01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:40,840
We got to head home and go beat the wife.

2445
01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:48,480
You know, why didn't you just have a glass of beer or a glass of beer and just pour?

2446
01:17:48,480 --> 01:17:50,080
What's the fascination with dropping it in?

2447
01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:51,080
You drop it in there.

2448
01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:52,080
A lot of dropped it in there.

2449
01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:54,240
Some of them just poured in there, but you poured it in the beer.

2450
01:17:54,240 --> 01:17:55,240
Right.

2451
01:17:55,240 --> 01:17:56,240
Right.

2452
01:17:56,240 --> 01:17:57,240
OK.

2453
01:17:57,240 --> 01:18:00,480
I'm curious about the fascination of dropping it in there just just because it's fun.

2454
01:18:00,480 --> 01:18:01,480
Yeah.

2455
01:18:01,480 --> 01:18:03,920
It wasn't like it kept dropping.

2456
01:18:03,920 --> 01:18:06,000
Rated until you did something.

2457
01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:09,240
I think just I think that got to get that.

2458
01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:10,600
That doesn't really do a whole lot.

2459
01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:13,240
In fact, it's stupid to drop showmen.

2460
01:18:13,240 --> 01:18:15,240
You're spilling it everywhere.

2461
01:18:15,240 --> 01:18:16,240
It's not a matter of that.

2462
01:18:16,240 --> 01:18:17,740
It's a matter of chipping the glass.

2463
01:18:17,740 --> 01:18:22,000
And then, you know, I don't know how well the I guess the glasses were made well back

2464
01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:23,000
then.

2465
01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:25,680
But you get an opportunity to chip the glass and then drink the chip.

2466
01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:26,680
Check this out.

2467
01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:33,200
So I was at a place called a sushi sushi bar called Raw on Legacy West legacy west, like

2468
01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:35,720
the east and look at me.

2469
01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:36,720
Saki bombs.

2470
01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:37,720
Look at the sake.

2471
01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:38,720
That's right.

2472
01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:44,640
So there would be a glass of sake and over the sake glass, you would put chopsticks and

2473
01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:45,640
then you would put.

2474
01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:46,640
Yeah.

2475
01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:49,120
You'd put a shot of sake, sake over beer.

2476
01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:50,120
Correct.

2477
01:18:50,120 --> 01:18:51,120
OK.

2478
01:18:51,120 --> 01:18:54,200
And then you all of you all you have all of you have that set up and then you bang the

2479
01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:57,680
table until the chopsticks separate and the thing drops.

2480
01:18:57,680 --> 01:18:58,680
Talk about a mess.

2481
01:18:58,680 --> 01:19:00,480
That's got general liability written all over.

2482
01:19:00,480 --> 01:19:01,480
Dude, it's a mess.

2483
01:19:01,480 --> 01:19:02,480
The shit's going everywhere.

2484
01:19:02,480 --> 01:19:03,480
I would rather.

2485
01:19:03,480 --> 01:19:04,480
It is a Mexico city.

2486
01:19:04,480 --> 01:19:07,080
I mean, I guess it's fun because we're all banging it until it fell in and then you're

2487
01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:09,760
supposed to, you know, chug it, you know, bunch of tards.

2488
01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:14,600
Anyway, that that and then obviously red beers, red beers.

2489
01:19:14,600 --> 01:19:17,840
OK, now red beers is interesting.

2490
01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:19,400
They've what does that mean?

2491
01:19:19,400 --> 01:19:22,600
Like a Bloody Mary and beer.

2492
01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:24,040
Or tomato juice in it.

2493
01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:27,080
The chalada beer with tomato juice is a red beer.

2494
01:19:27,080 --> 01:19:28,960
Don't take those red beer.

2495
01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:31,800
No, that was the Hispanic version of it.

2496
01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:34,080
I think that was 35 cents.

2497
01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:39,560
Essentially, they have some lime and some seasoning in the chaladas.

2498
01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:43,640
But it's not too bad.

2499
01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:44,640
They taste good.

2500
01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:45,640
There's nothing.

2501
01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:46,640
They don't taste bad at all.

2502
01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:47,640
Hold on.

2503
01:19:47,640 --> 01:19:48,640
A chalada.

2504
01:19:48,640 --> 01:19:49,640
Walk me through what the chalada.

2505
01:19:49,640 --> 01:19:50,640
That's another big beer.

2506
01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:54,280
Yeah, Ham's was a big beer back then.

2507
01:19:54,280 --> 01:19:55,280
Yeah, Ham's.

2508
01:19:55,280 --> 01:19:56,280
Wow.

2509
01:19:56,280 --> 01:19:57,280
Yeah, there's some old school.

2510
01:19:57,280 --> 01:19:59,280
Ham's Ham's was like my dad used to like that.

2511
01:19:59,280 --> 01:20:00,280
All right.

2512
01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:05,320
Look, back in the day, the government used to make another big one.

2513
01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:06,320
A beer.

2514
01:20:06,320 --> 01:20:07,320
Yeah.

2515
01:20:07,320 --> 01:20:08,840
The government used to make everything.

2516
01:20:08,840 --> 01:20:09,840
All right.

2517
01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:13,080
So when I say everything, they would have a government brand of bread.

2518
01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:16,400
They have a government brand of peanut butter, a government brand of it.

2519
01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:17,400
It'd be like this white packaging.

2520
01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:20,280
Give them a cheese and yeah, cheese.

2521
01:20:20,280 --> 01:20:21,760
It'd be this white package.

2522
01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:22,760
How was it Germany?

2523
01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:27,360
No, no, this was in the United States and they would have something that said beer.

2524
01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:28,360
Okay.

2525
01:20:28,360 --> 01:20:31,000
And that's what it was.

2526
01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:37,240
Ham's Ham's was the beer that was the generic beer that the government sold.

2527
01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:38,960
It's a little factoid there.

2528
01:20:38,960 --> 01:20:42,340
So yeah, because you go to the store and it doesn't say anything.

2529
01:20:42,340 --> 01:20:43,960
It just says fucking beer.

2530
01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:46,040
I mean, there's no that's it.

2531
01:20:46,040 --> 01:20:47,040
What do you want?

2532
01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:48,040
You beer.

2533
01:20:48,040 --> 01:20:49,040
You want bread?

2534
01:20:49,040 --> 01:20:51,480
It was labeled for that sounds like Soviet Russia.

2535
01:20:51,480 --> 01:20:57,400
Well, it kind of was, but it was more designed for like, like I said, the military for, you

2536
01:20:57,400 --> 01:20:58,400
know,

2537
01:20:58,400 --> 01:20:59,400
have you ever had a hams?

2538
01:20:59,400 --> 01:21:00,400
Yes.

2539
01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:01,400
Yes.

2540
01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:02,400
It's good.

2541
01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:03,400
It's not a bad beer.

2542
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:04,400
It's like a Olympia.

2543
01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:07,040
It's just a was it was it that the beer that had the bear is one that was the icon for

2544
01:21:07,040 --> 01:21:08,040
the hams bear.

2545
01:21:08,040 --> 01:21:09,040
I don't remember.

2546
01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:10,040
I think it was a bear.

2547
01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:11,280
I just know the song.

2548
01:21:11,280 --> 01:21:16,040
My dad used to sing it appears a beer is a beer is a beer until you taste good hams.

2549
01:21:16,040 --> 01:21:17,040
Oh, really?

2550
01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:22,640
I think it was a bear, literally a bear that was the one that was the hams logo.

2551
01:21:22,640 --> 01:21:26,400
Well, there was it was it was a big pig.

2552
01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:30,520
So there there was a fact it was the plus the twins.

2553
01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:35,480
So they the the the Pabbo hams beer bear in the twins.

2554
01:21:35,480 --> 01:21:39,040
He said that a lion lion.

2555
01:21:39,040 --> 01:21:40,880
That is but they OK.

2556
01:21:40,880 --> 01:21:46,200
So they have a if you want a land of sky blue waters, there's a bear right there.

2557
01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:47,200
There it is.

2558
01:21:47,200 --> 01:21:48,200
That's right there.

2559
01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:49,200
That's what I remember.

2560
01:21:49,200 --> 01:21:53,440
That's like Yogi from the land of sky blue waters.

2561
01:21:53,440 --> 01:21:54,440
That's what I remember.

2562
01:21:54,440 --> 01:21:55,440
There you go.

2563
01:21:55,440 --> 01:22:00,080
The big one where I had was I realized my memory was just good was huge.

2564
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:03,040
We had a huge poll.

2565
01:22:03,040 --> 01:22:04,040
Wait for the second podcast.

2566
01:22:04,040 --> 01:22:06,880
We're going to go down and tear it up a little bit.

2567
01:22:06,880 --> 01:22:07,880
I'm sorry, Jeff.

2568
01:22:07,880 --> 01:22:08,880
Go ahead.

2569
01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:11,520
Now, the one I didn't I didn't grow up really drinking hams.

2570
01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:15,760
We had a huge poll and we what was that huge poll?

2571
01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:19,360
I've never heard that in my life heard that.

2572
01:22:19,360 --> 01:22:22,280
Yeah, it's a look up Walters beer.

2573
01:22:22,280 --> 01:22:27,760
You know, producer, you pull up, you pull beer and yingling pops up.

2574
01:22:27,760 --> 01:22:31,800
No, did one by the other yingling by that?

2575
01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:32,800
I don't know.

2576
01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:34,760
The hudapol was a Cincinnati beer.

2577
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:35,760
This is Walt.

2578
01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:36,760
Oh, no, there's one.

2579
01:22:36,760 --> 01:22:37,760
How do you spell it?

2580
01:22:37,760 --> 01:22:38,760
Judy Gold.

2581
01:22:38,760 --> 01:22:39,760
That's Walters.

2582
01:22:39,760 --> 01:22:40,760
That was distilled.

2583
01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:42,760
Everything was made in Pueblo, Colorado.

2584
01:22:42,760 --> 01:22:43,760
Really?

2585
01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:44,760
Looks like yes.

2586
01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:45,760
I do.

2587
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:46,880
I do remember Walters beer.

2588
01:22:46,880 --> 01:22:50,240
I mean, I lived in Colorado for a section of my life.

2589
01:22:50,240 --> 01:22:52,160
We lived in Colorado Springs, Colorado for Carson.

2590
01:22:52,160 --> 01:22:53,160
Oh, yeah.

2591
01:22:53,160 --> 01:22:54,160
You're 37 miles north of Pueblo.

2592
01:22:54,160 --> 01:22:55,160
For how long?

2593
01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:56,160
Well, probably two years.

2594
01:22:56,160 --> 01:22:57,160
You were two years old?

2595
01:22:57,160 --> 01:22:58,160
No, you asked me how long, not when.

2596
01:22:58,160 --> 01:22:59,160
I'm kidding.

2597
01:22:59,160 --> 01:23:00,160
All right.

2598
01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:01,160
Second grade.

2599
01:23:01,160 --> 01:23:02,160
So eight years old.

2600
01:23:02,160 --> 01:23:03,160
You were eight years old.

2601
01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:04,160
You were a big beer drinker back then.

2602
01:23:04,160 --> 01:23:05,160
No, but I do remember.

2603
01:23:05,160 --> 01:23:06,160
He was 14 in the second grade.

2604
01:23:06,160 --> 01:23:07,160
You know, it's crazy.

2605
01:23:07,160 --> 01:23:08,160
I was 14.

2606
01:23:08,160 --> 01:23:09,160
I was 14.

2607
01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:10,160
I was 14.

2608
01:23:10,160 --> 01:23:11,160
I was 14.

2609
01:23:11,160 --> 01:23:12,160
I was 14.

2610
01:23:12,160 --> 01:23:13,160
I was 14.

2611
01:23:13,160 --> 01:23:14,160
I was 14.

2612
01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:15,160
I was 14.

2613
01:23:15,160 --> 01:23:17,360
Yeah, my dad, I don't.

2614
01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:23,160
So if you were, I put a little pin point where we used to live and then I put a pin where

2615
01:23:23,160 --> 01:23:28,160
you ever like zoom into Google and see the entry to NORAD in the side of the mountain?

2616
01:23:28,160 --> 01:23:29,160
I've never done that before.

2617
01:23:29,160 --> 01:23:30,160
Never done that.

2618
01:23:30,160 --> 01:23:31,160
All right.

2619
01:23:31,160 --> 01:23:32,160
Well, I have.

2620
01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:33,500
So I have my house and I have NORAD.

2621
01:23:33,500 --> 01:23:35,320
It's like two miles away.

2622
01:23:35,320 --> 01:23:37,880
So you could have been saved if there was a nuclear strike you had to run?

2623
01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:40,160
I think my dad would have abandoned us.

2624
01:23:40,160 --> 01:23:41,360
Oh, that's depressing.

2625
01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:43,560
Oh, well, he can.

2626
01:23:43,560 --> 01:23:44,560
They said NORAD.

2627
01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:45,560
You can start another one.

2628
01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:49,440
What if the first installation to be taken out in the United States would be NORAD?

2629
01:23:49,440 --> 01:23:51,000
No, it's in a mountain.

2630
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:52,000
It can't be taken out.

2631
01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:53,000
Oh, yeah, it can be taken out.

2632
01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:54,680
These bombs today, they probably can be.

2633
01:23:54,680 --> 01:23:56,600
Yeah, these bunker busters can.

2634
01:23:56,600 --> 01:23:57,600
But I don't think NORAD.

2635
01:23:57,600 --> 01:23:58,600
You can take out anything now.

2636
01:23:58,600 --> 01:23:59,600
I know.

2637
01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:05,280
NORAD's a little bit, NORAD's a little different, but I think that some of you're right.

2638
01:24:05,280 --> 01:24:08,840
Some of the technology now, I think they don't use NORAD anymore.

2639
01:24:08,840 --> 01:24:10,840
NORAD has been abandoned as far as.

2640
01:24:10,840 --> 01:24:11,840
No, that's not true.

2641
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:12,840
They track Santa with it.

2642
01:24:12,840 --> 01:24:13,840
That's true.

2643
01:24:13,840 --> 01:24:17,480
Did you hear about them tracking Santa this past year?

2644
01:24:17,480 --> 01:24:21,280
Plus, the way you could always tell where NORAD was and you see all these damn antennas

2645
01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:22,600
on top of that mountain.

2646
01:24:22,600 --> 01:24:23,600
We had.

2647
01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:24,600
Nothing but antennas all over.

2648
01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:25,600
You ever notice that?

2649
01:24:25,600 --> 01:24:26,600
No.

2650
01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:27,840
Nothing but antennas on top of that mountain where NORAD was.

2651
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:28,840
Yeah, that's true.

2652
01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:29,840
That's pretty obvious.

2653
01:24:29,840 --> 01:24:34,480
In fact, Paul, if it's not far on the way to your dad's cabin.

2654
01:24:34,480 --> 01:24:35,480
Yeah.

2655
01:24:35,480 --> 01:24:38,560
In fact, if you're looking on top of that little mountain, well, that's where it's at.

2656
01:24:38,560 --> 01:24:39,560
Do they have tours?

2657
01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:40,560
Really?

2658
01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:41,560
NORAD is Pike's Peak?

2659
01:24:41,560 --> 01:24:45,120
It's not far.

2660
01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:46,120
Colorado Springs.

2661
01:24:46,120 --> 01:24:47,920
Pike's Peak is a little further north.

2662
01:24:47,920 --> 01:24:49,920
Yeah, it's not really not further.

2663
01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:51,320
Not that garden of the gods.

2664
01:24:51,320 --> 01:24:53,640
Dude, I could see Pike's Peak from my front yard.

2665
01:24:53,640 --> 01:24:55,080
Pike's Peak is further north.

2666
01:24:55,080 --> 01:25:00,840
So there was a phone call that someone had called in to celebrate the the sighting of

2667
01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:02,640
a Santa Claus from the NORAD.

2668
01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:03,920
NORAD was calling in.

2669
01:25:03,920 --> 01:25:07,220
So they had this dad is like, oh, my gosh, yes, we're NORAD.

2670
01:25:07,220 --> 01:25:09,560
And we have sighted Santa.

2671
01:25:09,560 --> 01:25:14,600
And we want to report this and Joe Biden and his wife got on the TV and they were like,

2672
01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:16,160
oh, so what's going on?

2673
01:25:16,160 --> 01:25:19,520
And so they have this full conversation and they talk about the kids and they talk about

2674
01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:20,520
this and that.

2675
01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:25,120
And at the very end of the conversation, the guy is like, I want you to have a wonderful

2676
01:25:25,120 --> 01:25:29,960
Christmas and I want you to have a wonderful Christmas and then and let's go, Brandon.

2677
01:25:29,960 --> 01:25:32,000
Yeah, let's go, Brandon.

2678
01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:33,840
Joe Biden says, yeah, that's right.

2679
01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:34,840
Let's go, Brandon.

2680
01:25:34,840 --> 01:25:37,680
He repeated it inept.

2681
01:25:37,680 --> 01:25:39,680
How?

2682
01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:42,280
That guy was getting torn.

2683
01:25:42,280 --> 01:25:43,280
He is.

2684
01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:44,280
He is bad.

2685
01:25:44,280 --> 01:25:49,200
Look, Alan, do you do you know when I say let's go, Brandon, what that means?

2686
01:25:49,200 --> 01:25:50,200
I do not.

2687
01:25:50,200 --> 01:25:56,840
OK, so there let's just move forward for rest of this conversation.

2688
01:25:56,840 --> 01:26:02,320
There was a there was an event and they were saying, fuck Joe Biden.

2689
01:26:02,320 --> 01:26:03,320
Fuck Joe Biden.

2690
01:26:03,320 --> 01:26:05,120
And the crowd is chanting it.

2691
01:26:05,120 --> 01:26:09,000
They've been doing this in every sporting event across the.

2692
01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:15,160
So the the newscast caster, she was like, oh, look, they're saying let's go, Brandon.

2693
01:26:15,160 --> 01:26:16,160
Let's go.

2694
01:26:16,160 --> 01:26:21,360
So she was interviewing a Brandon driver who won the NASCAR.

2695
01:26:21,360 --> 01:26:23,420
So they were now what a joke.

2696
01:26:23,420 --> 01:26:27,680
So now everyone says instead of saying fuck Joe Biden, which is kind of, you know, rad,

2697
01:26:27,680 --> 01:26:29,880
mean, just not real nice.

2698
01:26:29,880 --> 01:26:31,940
They say they say let's go, Brandon.

2699
01:26:31,940 --> 01:26:34,320
So it means the exact same thing.

2700
01:26:34,320 --> 01:26:37,920
But my point is, is that this came out seven months ago.

2701
01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:40,920
OK, they hate it.

2702
01:26:40,920 --> 01:26:41,920
Oh, they.

2703
01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:43,400
Joe Biden knows about it.

2704
01:26:43,400 --> 01:26:49,600
So if you knew that that let's go, Brandon equals fuck Joe Biden and someone were to

2705
01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:53,520
say that, I mean, especially if I'm Joe Biden, you wouldn't say that.

2706
01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:56,040
I know he would go on man immediately.

2707
01:26:56,040 --> 01:26:57,640
He would say, come on, man.

2708
01:26:57,640 --> 01:26:59,520
Or he would shake his head in disgust.

2709
01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:03,120
But the fact that he didn't get it, he goes, yes, right.

2710
01:27:03,120 --> 01:27:04,400
He said, let's go, Brandon.

2711
01:27:04,400 --> 01:27:06,280
He said, OK, yeah, let's go, Brandon.

2712
01:27:06,280 --> 01:27:07,860
So I'm kind of repeated it.

2713
01:27:07,860 --> 01:27:08,860
But that's my point.

2714
01:27:08,860 --> 01:27:12,040
That's why I think that the elevator is not going all the way up.

2715
01:27:12,040 --> 01:27:15,000
And it scares me out of there is no elevator, bro.

2716
01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:16,000
And I don't want to.

2717
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:17,000
I don't want to.

2718
01:27:17,000 --> 01:27:18,000
I don't want to.

2719
01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:20,400
The point of this topic isn't to beat him up.

2720
01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:25,200
I feel bad for him because I think it's on the verge of elderly abuse is elderly.

2721
01:27:25,200 --> 01:27:29,080
And I just like, come on, this guy doesn't have he doesn't know what's going on.

2722
01:27:29,080 --> 01:27:31,160
And honestly, I don't think he's even running the show.

2723
01:27:31,160 --> 01:27:33,400
I think it's the Obamas that are running the show.

2724
01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:35,260
And I think they want to continue this campaign.

2725
01:27:35,260 --> 01:27:38,240
And I hate I know you don't talk about positive, but they want to continue this campaign because

2726
01:27:38,240 --> 01:27:41,840
they're starting to bring up Michelle Obama to be starting the twenty twenty four presidential

2727
01:27:41,840 --> 01:27:42,840
election.

2728
01:27:42,840 --> 01:27:43,840
Oh, wonderful.

2729
01:27:43,840 --> 01:27:44,840
Yeah.

2730
01:27:44,840 --> 01:27:47,320
They introduced her name and they officially put it in the play.

2731
01:27:47,320 --> 01:27:48,320
But they were like, yeah.

2732
01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:50,120
Or who was Michelle Obama?

2733
01:27:50,120 --> 01:27:52,720
Barack's man wife.

2734
01:27:52,720 --> 01:27:55,760
Her biggest accomplishment was making school lunches.

2735
01:27:55,760 --> 01:27:56,760
It was horrible.

2736
01:27:56,760 --> 01:27:58,560
Not edible anymore.

2737
01:27:58,560 --> 01:28:02,720
But my point is, is that, you know, they had said that and I felt bad because I was going

2738
01:28:02,720 --> 01:28:03,720
to be.

2739
01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:04,720
He said he was making a joke.

2740
01:28:04,720 --> 01:28:06,640
How can he not know that?

2741
01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:07,640
Let's go, Brandon.

2742
01:28:07,640 --> 01:28:10,640
I mean, because if you hear it once, you hear it twice.

2743
01:28:10,640 --> 01:28:15,400
They've been saying it nonstop every single day for seven months in his presence.

2744
01:28:15,400 --> 01:28:20,440
And I was like, dude, when are you going to learn that that means go fuck yourself?

2745
01:28:20,440 --> 01:28:23,240
Yeah, but that guy is being like, what are you getting?

2746
01:28:23,240 --> 01:28:24,240
Death threats.

2747
01:28:24,240 --> 01:28:25,280
He's getting death threats.

2748
01:28:25,280 --> 01:28:27,200
The father that made that joke.

2749
01:28:27,200 --> 01:28:28,200
Fuck it.

2750
01:28:28,200 --> 01:28:29,200
He cares.

2751
01:28:29,200 --> 01:28:31,840
And first off, he didn't know it was being live streamed is what he said.

2752
01:28:31,840 --> 01:28:32,840
Yeah, he did.

2753
01:28:32,840 --> 01:28:33,840
Did he?

2754
01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:34,840
Yeah, he did.

2755
01:28:34,840 --> 01:28:36,320
In fact, he used the words.

2756
01:28:36,320 --> 01:28:38,360
The guy that said, let's go, Brandon?

2757
01:28:38,360 --> 01:28:39,360
Yes.

2758
01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:40,360
Yeah.

2759
01:28:40,360 --> 01:28:41,360
He's getting death threats.

2760
01:28:41,360 --> 01:28:42,360
So what?

2761
01:28:42,360 --> 01:28:43,360
Yeah, whatever.

2762
01:28:43,360 --> 01:28:44,440
I mean, they're going to pull through with it.

2763
01:28:44,440 --> 01:28:49,840
The thing is, is that he said as soon as they as soon as he said it, the line was cut.

2764
01:28:49,840 --> 01:28:50,840
Oh, yeah.

2765
01:28:50,840 --> 01:28:51,840
Oh, yeah.

2766
01:28:51,840 --> 01:28:52,840
I think it's kind of funny.

2767
01:28:52,840 --> 01:28:53,840
It is a little funny.

2768
01:28:53,840 --> 01:28:54,840
It's sad, but it's funny.

2769
01:28:54,840 --> 01:28:55,840
Well, yeah.

2770
01:28:55,840 --> 01:28:56,840
Merry Christmas.

2771
01:28:56,840 --> 01:28:57,840
Merry Christmas.

2772
01:28:57,840 --> 01:28:58,840
Merry Christmas stuff.

2773
01:28:58,840 --> 01:29:00,640
That was kind of the point of the whole thing.

2774
01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:02,920
And, you know, how was your Christmas, Paul?

2775
01:29:02,920 --> 01:29:03,920
It was great.

2776
01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:04,920
It was great.

2777
01:29:04,920 --> 01:29:05,920
We had a lot of fun.

2778
01:29:05,920 --> 01:29:06,920
Well, hold on.

2779
01:29:06,920 --> 01:29:07,920
What was your favorite gift?

2780
01:29:07,920 --> 01:29:08,920
Dildo.

2781
01:29:08,920 --> 01:29:09,920
Jeff.

2782
01:29:09,920 --> 01:29:10,920
Oh, Jeff.

2783
01:29:10,920 --> 01:29:11,920
Jeff spoke out of line.

2784
01:29:11,920 --> 01:29:16,920
Jeff, you saying your favorite gift was a dildo?

2785
01:29:16,920 --> 01:29:18,480
No, I get a dildo every year.

2786
01:29:18,480 --> 01:29:19,480
It's a little.

2787
01:29:19,480 --> 01:29:20,480
Oh, that's your tradition.

2788
01:29:20,480 --> 01:29:21,480
That's your tradition.

2789
01:29:21,480 --> 01:29:22,480
It's just not that fun.

2790
01:29:22,480 --> 01:29:25,480
And I tell them, guys, I don't need another one.

2791
01:29:25,480 --> 01:29:28,480
You need the double ended with the kung fu grip.

2792
01:29:28,480 --> 01:29:31,360
What's a kung fu grip?

2793
01:29:31,360 --> 01:29:32,360
I'm trying to remember.

2794
01:29:32,360 --> 01:29:33,360
What did I get?

2795
01:29:33,360 --> 01:29:34,360
Oh, I got some kickass shoes.

2796
01:29:34,360 --> 01:29:35,360
You know what?

2797
01:29:35,360 --> 01:29:40,560
You know, we've downplayed gifts for each other and we really we really focus on the

2798
01:29:40,560 --> 01:29:42,000
kids like what they would.

2799
01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:44,320
So what do they want?

2800
01:29:44,320 --> 01:29:45,320
They don't want anything.

2801
01:29:45,320 --> 01:29:46,320
Oh, we got one of them.

2802
01:29:46,320 --> 01:29:49,320
Got a the ocular ocular deal.

2803
01:29:49,320 --> 01:29:51,320
What do you call the VR deal?

2804
01:29:51,320 --> 01:29:52,320
Oculus.

2805
01:29:52,320 --> 01:29:53,320
Yes.

2806
01:29:53,320 --> 01:29:55,880
And they want to close, which they they're freaks about.

2807
01:29:55,880 --> 01:29:56,880
They did good.

2808
01:29:56,880 --> 01:29:57,880
Right.

2809
01:29:57,880 --> 01:29:58,880
I mean, help me out here.

2810
01:29:58,880 --> 01:29:59,880
Oh, yeah, they did great.

2811
01:29:59,880 --> 01:30:01,760
I mean, yeah, they got a lot of sweatpants and shirts.

2812
01:30:01,760 --> 01:30:05,720
You know what tennis shoes and I'm going to tell you the gift that just Shelley and I

2813
01:30:05,720 --> 01:30:06,720
got.

2814
01:30:06,720 --> 01:30:07,720
You got gifts.

2815
01:30:07,720 --> 01:30:15,440
Mr. Father in law over here paid for an all expensive paid vacation to Mexico this summer.

2816
01:30:15,440 --> 01:30:16,440
Wow.

2817
01:30:16,440 --> 01:30:17,440
I'll tell you what, we're going to.

2818
01:30:17,440 --> 01:30:18,440
Yes, he did.

2819
01:30:18,440 --> 01:30:19,440
We're going to take a dudes like this pause.

2820
01:30:19,440 --> 01:30:23,680
We're going to talk about those gifts and much, much more.

2821
01:30:23,680 --> 01:30:31,000
And we're also going to talk about why certain other folks weren't invited to the same package.

2822
01:30:31,000 --> 01:30:32,000
That's all coming up in the next second.

2823
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:33,000
Oh, wow.

2824
01:30:33,000 --> 01:30:34,000
Very scandalous leading.

2825
01:30:34,000 --> 01:30:35,000
Yeah.

2826
01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:36,000
Well, you know, it's all about me.

2827
01:30:36,000 --> 01:30:37,000
All right.

2828
01:30:37,000 --> 01:30:38,400
Well, thanks for listening to dudes like us.

2829
01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:39,400
I'm Paul.

2830
01:30:39,400 --> 01:30:40,400
I'm Sean.

2831
01:30:40,400 --> 01:30:41,400
Jeff.

2832
01:30:41,400 --> 01:30:42,400
And you are a star hot rugged.

2833
01:30:42,400 --> 01:30:43,400
Shaka.

2834
01:30:43,400 --> 01:30:44,400
Alan.

2835
01:30:44,400 --> 01:30:45,400
Thank you very much.

2836
01:30:45,400 --> 01:30:46,400
Don't worry about you.

2837
01:30:46,400 --> 01:30:47,400
Just fucking broke the mic.

2838
01:30:47,400 --> 01:30:48,400
You're broken.

2839
01:30:48,400 --> 01:30:49,400
Damn it.

2840
01:30:49,400 --> 01:30:50,400
I'm going to have to get to the second half.

2841
01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:51,400
All right.

2842
01:30:51,400 --> 01:30:52,400
We'll catch you guys on the flip side.

2843
01:30:52,400 --> 01:30:53,400
What's the.

2844
01:30:53,400 --> 01:31:20,400
What's the.