Oh, we can be edited after this, I'm not sure.
Yeah, here we go.
Is this podcast gonna see the light of day, Sean?
No.
Well, do you wanna be canceled?
We just started the podcast.
I can say whatever I want before the podcast.
Yeah, I said all those unsavory words
that you use on a normal day.
That I use?
Of course.
Unsavory verb words.
Yes, they're all unsavory.
Speaking of unsavory,
we have homosexuals on a Dorito commercial.
Right, Mexican homosexuals.
Okay, hold on.
We gotta let the music play its course
because the music is very important.
Oh, hold on.
Welcome back to Dudes Like Us.
Let's develop that Dorito Hispanic, I'm Sean.
I'm Jack.
And welcome to the second half of our
December 14th Dudes Like Us podcast.
We are drinking, I'm gonna steamroll through this.
I'm gonna steamroll through this.
Yeah, you are, it's painful.
So this is part B.
We're drinking the same shit we were drinking
in the first half. No, we're not.
This is part B.
This is Oak and Eden, the same family, finished whiskey.
It's four grain.
It is four grain and Spire.
It is torched oak.
It is still 90 proof.
But I tell you what, we've been putting it on ice.
Elaborate on the four grain.
I think we have a four ounce pour on this one.
Yeah, so we, yeah, we're getting a little saucy,
a little loose.
I'm not. Which is okay.
I'm very sober.
Which is okay.
My ass. Hold on, listen.
So we changed up what we're doing.
Like if you heard from the last podcast.
Back up, pig me.
We're doing it on ice.
Let's preach to your shaman later.
Let's go into the four grain thing.
Let's figure out what that was.
I know, I'm waiting for Mr. Producer
to put it up on here.
Oh, for the love of God.
I know, I don't know.
We have the wheat and Spire.
Bourbon and Spire, it's torched.
We have the toasted.
There you go, four grain.
Hold on, it's gotta be torched.
It is, there it is.
Well.
So what's four grains?
So four grains.
Okay, what do we got here?
Traditional bourbons invite three grains
into their mash bill.
Corn, rye, and barley.
Four grain bourbon includes the additional wheat grain
into the mash.
Oh.
Wheat, making for the most complex flavor
of any bourbon on the market.
By marrying these four grains together into one mash,
a broad way, or a broad array of flavors emerge.
Oh, bro.
Accompancing notes of an orange peel,
vanilla, cloves, and caramel.
From four grain, whiskey enters the bottle.
We bring to life. Bring it to life!
With torched oak and Spire,
adding a delicate balance of orange spice,
butterscotch, and vanilla.
They said that like twice.
Okay, look, it's good.
It's good. Yeah, I get that.
Long story short.
It's good.
It's really good.
It's got a piece of wood in there, white oak.
Based on faith.
Stop moving around, Mr. Produce.
Go down, and it says medium toast, is that what it says?
Medium toast, before we place the Spire
into the four grain and Spire,
we expose it to fire,
toasting the wood to the perfect degree.
The producer finished that deep and rich
with a subtle note of candied fruit,
vanilla, and orange spice, and caramel.
Caramel.
So the word torched leads me to believe
that it's just a hunk of ash.
Caramel Harris.
It's a hunk of ash, what are you saying?
Well, no, when I think of torched,
I think of it as being just black char.
I think of an alligator char.
I like a char number five.
Number five, light it up.
Well, that says medium toast.
Well, then.
Then what is toasted?
That looks like worms.
Well, toast is like light roast.
That's a cool picture.
All right, so what that is is a giant bin, I guess,
of Spires that they...
So they have these oak rods
that they carve a Spire,
you know, they groove out of it.
To maximize the surface area.
Basically, it's like a drill bit.
It's about a half inch in diameter.
It's a drill bit of wood.
It looks like a candy cane.
That's exactly it.
It's a candy cane, but it's got a groove in it.
Agreed, agreed.
So it's to provide the...
Surface area.
Most surface area for the bourbon
to gain its flavors and colors.
Flavor and color, yeah.
Flavor and color.
I like it.
I mean, and here's the thing.
It's already been aged in a white oak charred barrel.
And so while it's being bottled
and while it's sitting on a shelf
and while it's waiting to go to your home,
it's enjoying a little bit more flavor
and a little bit more color.
I like the concept of that.
As a matter of fact, I'm thinking,
you know, in the intermission here,
we were talking about buying these,
putting them in a maybe a lesser,
a less expensive bourbon.
Like ancient age.
Let's hold on.
Like producer McHanna.
Stop moving.
Old Crow.
Pause.
Let's look at the screen for a second.
Now we're looking at three different bottles
of Oak and Eden finished whiskey.
Benchmark eight.
And from left to right, we are getting darker.
So they've got a charred Oak.
They've got a fired French Oak
and they have a toasted Oak.
Well that's the wheat and spires, the French Oak.
Oh, okay.
Hold on.
Let's take that out of it.
That's the flavor.
What I'm getting at is the char.
If you notice that the top of the label,
there is a green that says charred Oak.
There's a red that says fired French Oak.
And then there's the brown, which says toasted Oak.
Where's the torch oak?
Is that a black?
It's not a black.
It's a brown.
The torched oak is.
I'm sure.
It's toasted.
It's a little bit higher.
Yeah, whatever.
My point is, if you're looking at the colors,
we're coming up with a grading, so to speak.
If you notice, the wheat and spire
is number ones across the board,
as far as number one barrel, number one bottle.
Oh, wow.
And they do.
Meeting is grand.
That's the very first bottle they ever made of that.
Right.
Whereas the others are not quite like that.
Very observant, Jeff.
It is very observant.
Thank you.
I scroll up for me, because it toasted Oak.
So why is torched oak not in there?
That's interesting.
Oh, well, there it is right there.
All right, so what have we got there?
Oh, that's brand new too.
So the thing is, is that now we have a fourth one.
That's a light color.
That's a tan.
Actually, this batch doesn't exist.
It's number zero.
Zero.
This is a fake bottle.
They just needed something to take a picture of.
Well, they peed in that bottle.
Less than zero.
Yeah, less than zero.
Oh, there you go, less than zero.
So this is in Bridgeport.
We should make a trip out there.
That's about an hour drive.
Where is Bridgeport?
It's on the other side of Denton.
Oh my god, what are we doing?
Of course we got to go there.
And I wonder if they sell the spires there.
I wonder if they do.
They probably don't.
Probably not.
But we can buy them.
We already proved that.
We can buy them on Amazon.
We can buy them other places,
but I think we should go out there and.
I think you guys are diving way too deep into this.
I don't think so.
It's admirable.
Why not try it?
Look, because again, why did we try doing the barrels?
It's because we don't have enough of the time to do it.
We don't have time to handle the shit
we got going on right now.
It takes you 10 seconds to drop a spire in a bottle.
Time out.
I buy four bottles of Henry McKenna.
We've got.
I open three of them.
Manage a podcast.
Drop a spire in there.
We've got a.
And drink the fourth one.
CNC machine that is.
You're crazy.
One ending list of issues.
We can make CNC spires.
All right, well, I like where this is going.
I'm in.
Can we really?
No.
Hold on.
Yes, you can.
You can probably.
It doesn't have to be a spire.
It could be sort of cubicle.
Can we do a spire that we glue it together?
I don't think we're going to involve glue in this program.
Yeah.
Yeah, what do I want to glue in the bourbon?
I'm kidding.
Little Elmers.
Kind of a Dills breaker.
Little gorilla.
It is a little Elbers.
You can eat though, right?
Well, I mean, some kids did.
In fact, I was kind of one of you were one of your one.
I was not.
I watched a kid.
No, I was not a lot of glue.
Now I didn't sniff any glue and I didn't eat any glue,
but I saw a kid in class fucking eat glue.
And I was just like, what is wrong with you?
Yeah, that's weird.
I was well, and I gave him my milk.
I was like, you fucking sick bastard.
I can't even drink this.
Was he like, well, it's white like milk and I'm thirsty.
No, and I can't afford real milk.
Oh, damn.
I guess you go thirsty.
Well, that is weird though.
I said, think about it now.
That was like in a, that was fucking.
He could drink the Elmers glue at school,
but he couldn't afford the milk.
His parents were like drink the glue.
I think it came with the class.
I remember when I was in.
Because they would have a snack.
They would give you like a little thing of cookies
and a little.
That's some white privilege right there.
I remember specifically.
There were some other folk in that class
but this was on the East Coast.
This was in New Jersey.
There was all kinds of influence in there.
Oh, I swear the.
It's a mountain pot.
Best place to live.
Yeah, well they were going out to the little canals
behind the houses in Arcatoothis.
I lived in Fort Mama, New Jersey on Pinebrook Road
in a military housing and yes.
Yeah.
And you visited.
Had a little monocle and a little pocket watch.
Yeah, look at me.
Now the reality of it is, is the person next to us
is that little Samford and Sons.
Bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum.
That's where I lived.
You were living in the different Strokes house.
Come on, let's.
That's a great theme song.
Nice.
What are you talking about, Chuck?
I thought it was Barnaby Jones.
I didn't know what he was singing.
That's not Barnaby Jones.
Oh, the Samford and Sons.
I know.
Yeah, but it wasn't even close.
Yeah, it was pretty close.
I didn't know what it was.
No, it was.
Beans don't burn in the kitchen.
You got the big old.
Beans don't burn on the grill.
Jefferson.
Now moving on up to the top.
East side.
That was a great song, too.
To the east side?
East side.
Okay.
We were something up the apartment.
Although we did that.
We had to be getting close to David.
Come on, David.
We did the theme song show.
We got to get close to that.
We did, that was fun.
We did Quincy.
Yeah, me and Chummers like, yeah, this sucks.
Let's move on.
Oh, I thought it was fun, and you guys didn't.
No, no.
Quincy was weird.
The Quincy was.
You know, that seems to be the trend, though.
I do cool things and you guys are like, ooh.
No, it was just Quincy.
No, you do stupid things.
I like the theme song thing.
And both Jeff and I agree.
All right, what's the best theme song ever?
What's the best theme song ever?
It's gotta be Love Boat.
Love Boat?
Magna P.I.?
Magna P.I.
Oh, hold on.
It's gotta be Love Boat.
Rock for Files?
Debbie K.R.P.
That's a good one.
Believe it or not.
Oh, yeah.
That one.
America's Greatest Hero.
Yeah, there you go.
Debbie K.R.P., Debbie K.R.P.
That one made the.
And did you know?
Did you know that came out in the early 80s?
And do you know what the character's name was?
Who?
Which one?
For America's Greatest Hero.
They had to change his name.
Well, well.
Huge erection.
The first season, his name was John Hinckley.
Oh, no shit.
Junior?
Yeah.
Right after Shotfucking.
And it was.
Came out at the same time.
So they had this season, his name was John Hinckley.
Was he in love with Jodie Foster as well?
Yeah.
Taxi cab.
Isn't that bizarre?
The whole reason why he shot Ronald Reagan
because he wanted to impress Jodie Foster.
Yeah, the thing about it is he shot him
with an explosive bullet.
I mean.
It was a 22, wasn't it?
Yeah, it was a 22.
I thought it was an explosive bullet.
No, no.
And he got a lucky shot, by the way.
It ricocheted off the car into his liver area
and he was in danger.
Like he was in bad shape.
He was very lucky.
No, I shouldn't say that.
He was very lucky.
It could have been way worse.
And no, he did not hit him directly.
It bounced off the car.
Did you know that?
I didn't know that, no.
I didn't know that.
It hit Brady.
But the sad thing about that whole thing.
Is that because Brady was in the way?
Brady got hit in the head
and now you have all sorts of Brady gun control.
And he's probably dead by now.
He is, he died.
Yeah, but he was brain dead.
Not brain dead anyway, but he was.
He was paralyzed.
He was in a wheelchair.
He was more than that.
He was mentally not the same.
I think it was kind of like a stroke.
And then McCarthy, remember McCarthy?
You probably don't remember McCarthy.
That dude, that, so Brady didn't jump
in front of the president.
Brady was in front of the president.
McCarthy was a Secret Service agent
that literally threw himself in front of the president,
took a bullet and then went down
and they shoved him into the car
and a bullet bounced off the car.
A bullet bounced off the car and into Ronald Reagan.
So did McCarthy.
A magic bullet.
This one was a magic bullet.
Yeah, maybe.
McCarthy literally threw himself in front of the bullet.
That's what you're supposed to do at the Secret Service.
Absolutely.
That's what you're supposed to do.
What a stud.
All those guys are.
I mean, all of them, yes, all of them.
And I think, I think, did more than two get hit?
How many people ended up getting shot besides Reagan?
67.
I thought it was 900.
In an automatic 22.
Yeah, no, well, no, it was a Gatling gun that he had.
No, it was Brady, McCarthy, and Reagan.
22 Gatling guns.
The big old crank.
And they were like, what's going on, what's going on?
And about an hour and a half later, they were like,
he's got a Gatling gun.
He didn't see the tripod.
That would be the worst Secret Service team ever.
And Reagan went full Matrix on him.
Right?
I dodged the first 1500.
Look at me.
Oh gosh.
All right.
Anyway, there he is.
Yeah, McCarthy.
That was a big, I remember when that happened.
Me too.
I came home from school.
1980, right?
Yeah, I came home from school
and it dominated the afterschool program.
Of course.
That's where I heard.
Holy shit, that was huge.
Yeah.
That was huge.
Ronald Reagan was funny.
I mean.
Funny dude, yeah.
He had tons of charisma.
And I just, I love the way he,
politics were, they were ugly, but at least they had.
They were very ugly back then.
They had some class too though.
You know?
No, if you go back and watch some of that stuff and listen,
it was just as ugly back then as it was.
Yes it was.
It was bad.
Politics has always been ugly.
We're just 10 years old.
Reagan had a lot of finesse to him.
He had a lot of charisma, like Sean said.
And it was hard not to like him.
Yeah, oh, oh.
Even on both sides.
He, yeah.
Democrats hated him.
Look, there's a reason why he took like 99%
of the electoral votes in 1984.
It's because he was a brilliant man.
I mean.
He really was.
Oh, the kipper.
We're scrolling through hundreds of pictures of Reagan.
What's interesting about the assassination attempt,
and you know when it first happened, right?
The conspiracy theories and the,
and the, you know, it was some psycho Democrat.
I mean, you know they were stewing.
They were stewing with all the.
Do we not know that it was a Democrat?
Well no, but my point is.
I don't think it ever came out,
the political affiliation of John Hinckley.
Well he liked Johnny Foster.
Well I know.
And that's my point, guys.
Doesn't that.
Tip it off.
It ballooned into like this crazy.
Is she a Democrat?
Oh she is.
Big time.
Guys, listen to me.
It ballooned into this political thing.
It's always a political thing for an assassination attempt.
And then when they found out it was some psycho
that wanted to impress an actress.
You know how deflating that must have been
for the news organizations
when it wasn't this massive conspiracy theory?
Like GFK.
That's not what's going on now.
CNN would just still run with it.
Oh they probably still would.
Yeah.
You following me here though, guys?
There would be six months of,
oh this guy was a right wing.
Exactly right.
Even more the reason I want Trump to run.
Because I think the fact that they took Twitter away.
And you know, it just.
If.
But they miss him.
If he could just shut the fuck up.
They do miss him.
They won't.
They miss him like a jilted lover.
I know.
It's so sad.
You're saying Trump's not gonna run?
No, we'll never have Trump without the tweets.
He can't, well they banned him.
Yeah, but they'll bring him back.
No, if they don't bring him back on Twitter,
he's gonna be on his platform.
They'll be on Getter.
Or D-Wack.
Yeah, right.
So my point is we'll never have Trump.
We'll never have the 12 year old.
Truth or whatever it is.
We'll never have Trump without the 12 year old bully.
Yeah.
And you know what?
And he's still talking shit.
So what?
I hate it.
We don't need that.
We had the best America back then.
Wow.
Like compared to right now?
I think we can have another staunch conservative
Republican that gets it done.
Who like?
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Not a fucking 12 year old.
Yeah, let's go.
Anyone that gets in there is gonna get treated horribly by it.
Hang on, hang on.
I don't think DeSantis has it right now.
Let's go around the horn and say who you want
to run in 2024, Sean.
Sean says Donald Trump.
Donald Trump, okay.
Ted Cruz.
Okay, Ted Cruz.
Let's see the DeSantis do it.
I wanna see the DeSantis do it.
I think he's got it.
I'll tell you some other-
I don't think he'll do it this time,
but I think eventually he'll get there.
How about some upcoming folk?
Wait, wait, wait.
Upcoming folk?
Like Tom Cotton or you know.
Well, I'm talking like some females.
The one-eyed guy.
Dan Crenshaw.
Dan Crenshaw just folded for the-
The one-eyed guy.
Okay, Dan Crenshaw is more of a realist.
I like him.
He's not presidential material,
but I like him.
He's got a great podcast, okay.
But he's young.
He still has 20 years before he can have to run.
Nothing against you guys,
but he's got a great podcast, okay.
What are you saying?
What, you know.
He's better than her.
He's a little more structured.
Yeah, maybe, maybe.
Maybe a little more.
Maybe, you think?
Anyway, so-
He doesn't talk about butt holes.
No, but-
God, what a bunch of-
He doesn't talk about beaver anus.
No, he doesn't.
He's not a dude like us, then.
Well, he's not a dude like us, then.
You know we are.
He's not.
You know we are.
We're a panel of ADHD.
I think folks like Stacy,
like Candace Owens, for example.
Stacy Abrams?
What are you talking about?
Back off, back off.
Yeah, don't-
Candace Owens is what I was trying to say.
Oh, no.
Candace Owens is-
President?
No.
No, I'm not saying for president.
I'm saying I would like for her to be groomed.
I like it.
I would like for her to be groomed.
I would like for-
No, no, no, no.
I'm not talking about-
Oh, I don't know.
Where are you going with that, Chuck?
I'm not talking about like her-
Cubes?
Yeah.
Really?
Okay, there you go.
I'm talking about, she should be,
I mean, because first of all, she's smart.
She's really smart.
And she's already been in Congress.
She knows not to be pushed around.
No, no, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
She's not been in Congress.
No, she hasn't.
No, she's not been in Congress.
She's been in front of Congress.
She knows how to handle them.
I see where you're going.
Because they try to manhandle her.
Yeah, she sticks up.
She's never had none of it.
Well, she's like Jim Jordan.
Yeah, Jim Jordan done both the shit.
And to his point, in a non-weird way,
she needs to be groomed for political office.
Yeah.
But, but, Brun is a congressman.
First, let's do that.
You have Nikki Haley,
former ambassador to the United Nations.
No.
I love her so bad.
No, no.
I love her though.
I thought she was awesome as the ambassador to the UN.
She was an ass kicker.
And she was an ass kicker as the governor of,
come on, what do you got?
Was it North Carolina?
Nope.
South Carolina.
I believe it was North Carolina.
I don't know.
So I was correct the first time.
Look it up, look it up.
Nikki Haley, governor of.
Wow, you're not even close, but that works.
SC, South Carolina.
South Carolina.
She was correct.
Very nice.
Okay, so she was a governor, right?
So she has executive experience.
She is the ambassador to the UN
and very staunchly firm.
I mean, threw down.
Threw down.
It was awesome.
Well, how do you feel about Chris Christie?
Here's where she screwed up.
No.
No, for Chris Christie?
Here's where she screwed up.
She was talking shit about Donald Trump.
She talks shit about Trump.
That's basically it.
I can't understand why she would even do that.
Even if you're not a fan of Trump,
she works for him, right?
She would know.
Yeah.
Right?
He had to nominate her to be in the positions.
Well, how about Tom Cotton of Arkansas?
Like Tom Cotton?
No.
Who's the black senator?
I like him.
Tim Scott?
Tim Scott, I really like him.
I like him a lot.
Yeah.
I really like him.
You got a South Carolina.
Yeah, he's really good.
He's not South Carolina, is he?
Yeah, he is.
Yep.
No shit.
He's really good.
I thought he was Alabama or Mississippi.
And he came from nothing.
Mike Pompeo can run.
Do you think he can be able to handle it?
Secretary of State?
Pompeo has it, yeah.
I think Pompeo has it.
I like Tim Scott a lot.
He's a very...
He shows lots of gums when he smiles.
He does.
He got a big smile.
Look at that gum.
Whatever, man.
He's smart.
You know what he calls people out too.
I love it.
His story's good too.
He came from nothing, man.
He is very comfortable in his own skin.
I like him a lot.
Yeah.
I think he's very good, very smart.
I would actually put him number two on my list.
Well, Josh Haley from Missouri.
Josh Haley, I love Josh Haley.
Yeah, he's good too.
He's an ex-ranger, isn't he?
Army Ranger?
You have two eyes?
Yes, he's not to see with one eye.
That's Holly.
I think he's...
Holly.
I wouldn't say Haley.
Yes.
I'm gonna say Holly.
Yeah, I think he's...
I like him.
Is he a wheelchair?
No.
I like him a lot too.
No, no, no.
He's the one who called for the two...
Well, Greg Abbott's in a wheelchair.
For the military guys to resign.
You know what's interesting?
The guys that the left go after...
General Milley.
The guys that the...
Well, I'm sorry, guys and gals.
He needs to be bitch slapped.
That they go after on the left
are the people that you need to watch for.
Yes.
Because they're trying to tear him down.
They're going after this guy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Holly's one of them.
No, no.
Holly's one of them.
They get in the sights,
and then they get targeted,
and then they get crushed.
Yeah, but there's a reason.
And there's a reason.
It's because they're good.
No.
It's because they're good.
They're good.
Well, yeah, because they're good.
But the reason why is because they want to see
how well they do under pressure.
No.
They want to see how, if they can handle it.
They want to destroy them.
Okay.
They want to destroy them.
How well...
100%, destroy them.
How well did Joe Biden do under pressure?
He is an amazing order.
Well, they did a lot of...
It's kind of hard to be under pressure
when you live in your fucking basement.
I think he's a better orator than Obama.
Shit.
I think he's an...
I mean, when he can complete a sentence,
it's actually really good.
Well, you got Joni Ernst.
Come on, folks.
Joni Ernst, the US Senator from Iowa.
Joni Ernst.
No one buys that.
N-S-T, Joni Ernst.
I don't know anything about her.
No, no.
From Iowa.
So she is ex-military?
No, yeah, she's ex-mil, but no.
What about...
She's solid, but she's not...
Yeah, no.
J-O-N-I, Ernst, E-R-N-S-T,
and that's Senator from Iowa.
Well, what do you think about the Democrat chick
who ran for president who was ex-military?
Oh.
That's a Democrat, though.
She's a Democrat, but she's like run on the edge.
Are you talking about Hawaii?
Yeah, yeah, Hawaii.
I like her.
Gabbard.
Gabbard, yes.
Tulsi Gabbard.
Tulsi Gabbard, yep.
She's Democrat.
I love her.
She is, but she's like run on the edge, I think.
She is a moderate.
Tulsi Gabbard is a centrist.
I love it.
She's rational.
She is rational.
She can be...
Kick your ass, too.
I think she's good.
She's a pilot, I think.
Well, yeah, yeah, she has, yeah.
No, no, there's no doubt she's...
She's the one.
You know what that is?
Talk about courage.
She's the one.
Whenever something comes up like the...
Wittenhouse.
Wittenhouse, thank you.
Yes.
And you're right on it.
When that verdict came out, she was like, duh.
Dead on, the right verdict.
Yeah.
And you know how much courage that takes?
Okay.
So Campbell Toher still hasn't come to the table.
No, she's an idiot.
She's a complete idiot.
And renounced what she fucking said about,
what is another modern day lynching?
Yeah.
What a horrible thing that she's saying.
Or the Jussie Smollett shit.
Oh, Jussie Smollett.
Jussie Smollett.
Smollett.
Jussie Smollett, yeah.
Smollett.
But that fag will never spend a day in jail either, probably.
Let's go back to Tulsi and then we can go back to Kamala.
Like, no, Tulsi, like...
No, she's got a very rational opinion to her,
although not always right,
not always left.
But she can justify where she's coming from.
But she can justify where she comes from
and she's got background.
And I completely respect that.
And if you look back,
if you look back at the 2019, 2020 debates
of the Democrats, which that's all we saw, really, right?
Yes.
She was hot.
Well, okay, she was hot, but like...
No, with her mind.
She was on her game.
Like nude.
No, I mean, but she was...
Well, she was hot and nude.
Bright lights.
Okay.
She was hot and nude and on her game.
No, no.
Keep going, Trevor.
But...
Wow, she got some face issues going on.
Well, she called out Kamala, didn't she?
Of all the people, of all the people,
of the 24 candidates that they had
for Democratic for president,
I would have been okay with her, right?
Yeah.
I would have been okay with Andrew Yang, right?
So do you remember the scandal
of what happened during the primaries
were on the Democrat side?
Andrew Yang's still on the edge, too.
Hear me out, guys, hear me out.
Do you remember the scandal on the,
during the Democratic primaries?
I mean, for who?
They kept her from the big stage.
Yeah, they kept her.
Oh, yeah.
Remember?
No, granted, there were a lot of candidates, right?
They had a big stage and a small stage
based on polling and stuff,
and she was polling well,
and they kept her off the big stage.
Yeah, it was the Bulls.
Because, yeah, they...
Yeah, because she attacked Kamala.
She was a threat.
Yeah.
She was a threat to her own party.
A threat to the establishment.
And I'm telling you, she's...
I love it.
I love it that she has the balls to do that.
Well, what about Gretchen Whitmer of Michigan?
Gross.
No.
She should be in jail.
Yeah, she should be.
She should be in jail.
Yeah, especially for voting fraud.
She's ruined that state of power.
And what about your Ohio?
Ruining as we speak.
In the state of Ohio, Mike DeWine.
Mike DeWiner?
Mike DeWine.
I need to talk to Mike.
DeWine.
D-E-W-I-N-E.
He's been around a while.
He's not exactly mature.
DeWine's a big political family.
Well, he made the top 20.
Nah, I disagree.
Top 20 of what?
Top 20 of potential candidates in 2024.
I mean, guys, let's be real.
It's really between three.
I mean, Mike Pence is on the list.
No, Pence is not gonna change.
Marco Rubio, Ben Sasse, Rick Scott.
No.
The top three.
Rubio doesn't have a chance.
We have DeSantis, we have Trump, and we have Cruz.
Elise, Stefanik.
Stefanik, I like Stefanik.
No, okay, Cruz.
Then you got, there's Cotton and Halle.
Okay, they're actually.
Neither one of them are gonna run.
No, give them a chance.
They'll run and they'll contend.
I think Tim Scott has a chance.
I would.
And I'd throw Tim Scott in there too.
Dude, I would throw him in there big time.
Yeah.
But right now it's DeSantis and it's Trump,
and I hope it's not Trump,
but it's DeSantis and it's Cruz.
I hope it is.
Look, man, Trump is the one that's gonna pull us
out of this shit, and I want him, hear me this.
I want him to walk the walk.
I know, and he will.
He's talk to talk, I want him to walk the walk,
and that's what I want.
You realize what could happen.
He's gonna have to change his path.
If Trump wins.
If he's walking the walk.
He's only got four years.
That vice president, if he picks a good vice president.
That's where you need to.
That could be at 12 years.
That's where you need a governing,
like DeSantis to step in as a vice president.
Vice president can?
Yeah.
Oh, I get it.
Yeah, so if Trump were to run and use DeSantis
as his vice president, which that's what I said a year ago,
is that should be the next ticket, is DeSantis and Trump.
Because DeSantis has started to get it now.
If you notice, he's got all the arm language,
the arm flailing.
No, he's got the mimicking.
As far as that.
He's a badass, man.
DeSantis is a badass.
I agree, I agree.
I like him a lot.
I put him on the ticket.
Just like 12 years, that's what I say, the same thing.
You know what's sad?
And I'm gonna seem like a flip-flopper here.
But, and it's not that.
You a camel.
It's not that I don't like Trump.
I love Trump, I love Trump.
I just don't want division and conflict.
It's gonna happen anyway.
And non-healing, and there we go.
That's what I'm gonna do.
It's gonna happen anyway.
But hold on, let me finish, let me finish.
So they, the left has been so ugly.
Ugly.
And so divisive.
And they're lying.
Part of me is like, we need Trump and fucking hammer them.
Hammer them.
I mean, even right now.
And you know what?
Brutally hammer them and bring this country back
to where it needs to be.
You got press secretary.
And I hate that, but it's true.
Press secretary Jen Balsacki.
You know, she's like.
That's Ms. Patty.
She is, I mean, currently now.
She's a fucking pathological liar.
Absolutely.
I mean, the shit that she's saying that, you know,
Donald Trump has never denounced the white supremacy.
Bullshit.
She just, I mean, it is non-stop.
She just repeats the lie.
Why don't they call her out on it?
The same bullshit lies over and over again.
Who's gonna call her out?
I think.
Who's gonna call her out?
The guys at the press corps.
Why don't they call her out?
No, they'll never.
Well, Peter, why not?
Peter Deucys having a conversation with her.
He tries.
Is just like, you know, when she says something,
well, you know, Trump doesn't denounce white supremacy.
And I mean, someone in there be like, yes, he did.
Yes, he did.
And on a dozen occasions he has.
The President of the United States
continues to repeat the lie.
The Charlotte lie.
All the hoaxes.
Charlotte's real lie.
He believes every one of the hoaxes.
Every one of them.
No, he doesn't believe shit.
He doesn't even know what he believes.
He's reading on the teleprompter.
Fine, he repeats the hoaxes.
It's so outrageous.
I just, mm.
All right, so.
Okay, so let's talk about hobbies.
We've got a lot of.
Yeah.
So hobbies, I guess politics is a hobby, right?
Yeah, that was a, it is.
It is a hobby, but you know what?
That little side.
It's kind of, not catastrophic.
It's a destructive hobby.
It is.
It's not really a hobby that this is a hobby.
What we're doing here.
It is.
Well, I think that to get a hobby,
I mean, you learn hobbies by growing up.
You see your dad doing certain things
and you become inspired and you carry those traits
into your adult life.
Did your dad broadcast?
Negative.
I didn't see my dad a whole lot.
He was in the military and I didn't see him a whole lot.
So I know he did some hunting.
He's very intellectually, I mean, he knows how to,
he's a smart guy.
So he's a vault of information.
But my point is you learn these hobbies from your parents
and then you kind of create your own.
When you're growing up and you're in your late teens,
you're going to college or you're struggling to make a living,
you're in your twenties and you don't have a whole lot
of time for hobbies.
You're kind of like grinding yourself,
trying to make ends meet and working 50, 60 hours a week.
And then finally, when you do have time,
you don't have time for hobbies until it's like,
you're 50 years old, the exact age that we are right now.
We're in that bracket where we can now afford
to do things to create hobbies.
Well, and it's not necessarily afford
from a financial perspective.
It's time.
Well, it's time and afford.
I mean.
I think it's both.
It can be, it can be, yeah, it can be.
All right, so that was where I was trying to end
on the last segment.
Like what are hobbies that men in our position,
we've got dudes like us, right?
Men of a certain age.
Well, and some of us are empty nesters.
Some of us are on the fledgling empty nesters.
I'm on the cusp.
I'm on the cusp as well.
So what?
Okay, so.
It's liberating.
So some hobbies that are out there.
Okay, so let me throw out some.
All right, and I'm not talking about the ones
where you go on trips, right?
We all know there are guide trips, fishing trips,
hunting trips.
That's a hobby though.
Sure.
It is, but I'm thinking more like around the home.
Like whittling?
Whittling.
That was the first thing I was gonna come up with.
Whittling, nude whittling.
Wow.
I believe I said nude whittling.
I knew it was coming.
You're a whittle.
Well, I'm just gonna help you.
I'm gonna help you right now, Jeff.
You were gonna say nude whittling.
So if you're lying and you say you're not.
Little sit and spins.
Sean.
No, you're right, you're right.
Hobbies are things that guys go off and do.
Whittling, whittling.
So hold on.
Whittling.
So those hobbies, those are hobbies
that guys go off and do, right?
We hunt, we fish, we camp.
Collect seashells.
I don't know.
We collect seashells.
Petrified wood.
No, but what else?
Okay, so we got woodworking.
I like groz.
All right, there's beer brewing.
Beer brewing, there's woodworking.
Yeah, 3D printing.
There's a home.
You can play an instrument.
Home, what do you call it when you fixing up your house?
So does home upgrades.
Yeah, home improvement.
Home improvement.
Home improvement, that's a big one.
Yeah.
Right, cause you're doing baseboards
and you're doing crown molding
that your wife wanted for 20 years.
All of a sudden, the seashell sink that you have
is like really out of date.
I tell you, I tell you.
Yeah, for sure.
I tell you a hobby that we've picked up
in the last two years.
Is bourbon.
Bourbon, baby.
Bourbon.
That's a hobby, I think.
It is, well, it's like a $3,000 hobby.
Yeah, it's an expensive hobby.
It's an expensive, we spend, we.
What do we need to talk about it?
Every Friday.
I think we need to take a pause.
We do, we have so many bourbons.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Unless there's a unicorn.
I'm putting a kid to college.
I don't need to be burning 80 bucks every Friday.
No, we don't burn 80 bucks every Friday.
Well, Paul does, cause he has to restock.
Yeah, I gotta do old.
That's cause it falls out of the back of his car.
No, I got old mong, I got my mixture,
I got my bourbon for the podcast, I got beer.
Yeah, it's 80 bucks every time.
Actually, it's 120 this time.
It was 120 bucks.
I can't keep doing this.
Well, you need to scale back on the other areas.
I gotta either do this bourbon hobby or get an RV.
I mean, they're the same price per month.
Yeah, that's a good point.
Actually, it isn't, but actually it might be.
Anyway, what other hobbies?
Come on.
Yeah, so.
I think.
What about the CNC that.
Okay, woodworking.
As soon as we get the damn thing to work.
Yeah.
So here's my point.
I think we've got dudes like us that listen to this podcast
that are finding themselves not lost.
In between.
Yeah, they're not lost, but it's like.
We got ADD in between these hobbies.
Hey guys, we gotta keep ourselves busy, right?
I mean, but there's different things.
There's family busy, there's spiritual busy, right?
I'm not gonna get hardcore into that,
but there's spiritual busy.
That's an important thing.
But then there's also your own fulfillment busy.
Whether that's writing.
There's a difference between hobbies and interests.
Whatever it is.
It could be gardening.
There's a lot of dudes at garden.
Well, you're writing a novel, aren't you?
I've written 17 novels.
Or a script, I should say.
Yeah, well, no.
Letters to Playboy, don't count as novels.
I want to, but I'll be honest with you,
I haven't dedicated the time.
It's gonna be.
Because I'm trying to make our CNC machine business
a success.
I think it will be.
We just need to get the damn thing to work.
Well, we're getting a new X-Rail.
I know.
On the 17th.
Is that what the decision is now
they're gonna send us an X-Rail?
Yes.
Fuck.
A whole damn X-Rail, dude.
I applaud them for that.
And we need to send the other one back within 50 days.
OK.
Postpaid.
Well, I mean, in my opinion, what they should have done
is they just should have sent us a new one.
A whole new system.
Well, I'm thinking if it doesn't work, it's the black box.
It's the controller.
So anyway, getting back to hobbies.
Yes, please.
Yeah, the CNC is, I think, a great hobby.
I think music.
A lot of people find time to make music.
I'd love to start playing the drums again.
So playing instruments.
Yeah, I'd love to play the drums.
You could do it by yourself with drums.
Get these electric ones, get a pair of headsets,
and just play along to music.
You know?
So I think if you.
Couple pencils.
Yeah, I think if you.
Yeah.
Do some air drumming.
So if you were a band guy, and you were good at it.
Use some air guitar.
Chuck just mentioned a couple days ago,
because he wants to re-embarque on the whole drum thing.
So here we go.
So I think if you were a band guy or a musician
in high school and maybe into college.
You get dudes like us band.
And you had to put it on hold, right?
Because life happened.
Kids happened.
Yeah.
And then guess what?
Once you leave college, that kind of goes on hold.
And that musical thing bubbles back up, man.
It does.
It's a passion.
So I think you're 100% right.
And not just that, but yeah, you've learned guitar,
but now you want to learn drums.
You want to be the whole Dave Grohl thing.
You know?
There you go.
I like it.
Record the whole album yourself.
And then you end up on a band playing at the railyard.
I want to be a beatboxer.
Playing.
I wish I could play at the railyard.
Playing the Commodores.
And I'm Brogia.
Too hot to trot.
Now, baby.
Because you got to play the trombone.
Bom bom bom bom bom bom bom bom bom bom bom bom bom bom
bom bom bom bom bom bom bom bom bom bom bom bom bom bom.
Hey.
This is not how to twine.
Yeah.
That's Wild Cherry.
It is Wild Cherry.
That's a white guy, by the way.
Is it?
Yeah.
Play that funky music, Wild Cherry.
Is that racist?
It's White Cherry.
I say that because I went to Orlando,
Universal Studios with Barry.
That's in Florida.
With Barry on a PeopleSoft conference.
And KC and the Sunsham Band took the stage.
KC's white.
I know.
You didn't know that?
I had no idea.
Really?
He's a white guy, sorry, by black guys.
How stupid is that?
So everybody else is like, you know,
he opened up with some awesome song that he has.
He has so many.
And they're all bouncing around and jumping.
Play that funky music, white guy.
That's Wild Cherry.
And I'm literally standing there.
You should ask Barry.
Have Barry tell the story.
Everybody's jumping around, and I'm just
standing there staring.
And I turn to Barry, and I'm like, KC is white.
And he's just like lost it.
He's white.
He lost it.
I knew that when I was telling him.
I had no idea.
And I'm going with the fact that I was raised overseas.
It doesn't matter.
Oh, here we go.
Yes, it was.
I'm hearing impaired.
Why does that matter?
Oh, is that?
You heard the music just like I did.
I'm hearing impaired, and I'm the foil of this podcast.
They didn't have YouTube.
Mind you.
Foil.
Mind you, the foil has spoken.
That's on you.
You have to own it.
You have to own that.
You're more like a fucking plastic wrap.
Isn't that crazy, though?
Anyway, I thought that was great.
Anyway, so Wild Turkey or whatever you just said.
Wild Cherry.
I'm your boogeyman.
That's what I am.
Is this Elvis?
I'm here to do.
That's Casey in the Sunset.
No, that was Elvis in the Sunshine Band.
What do you say?
There's other.
Just like the village people.
The village people.
That's the way.
Uh-huh, uh-huh.
I like it.
Uh-huh, uh-huh.
Please don't go.
What other white bands have been potentially
mistaken as black?
Public Enemy.
Abba.
Public Enemy?
That was the worst example ever.
We are the Dancing Queen.
Journey would be the most exemplar.
Journey would be the most.
I'd probably say Beastie Boys.
What about Eminem?
Eminem?
Eminem.
Maybe.
Snow.
Beastie Boys, maybe.
Color Me Bad.
Snow would be one.
Back to Beastie Boys.
Informa.
Lalalalalala.
That's a great one.
That's a great song.
Millie Vanilli.
OK, we don't know if they're white or black or what.
I don't know.
We have no idea.
They are black.
Because they weren't real.
They're the Jussie Smollett of bands.
They weren't even real.
We have no idea what they really were.
They were session singers.
Actually.
They didn't even sing.
The Jussie Smollett of bands is an underrated quote.
So OK, oh, here we go.
Millie Vanilli, very nicely done, Mr. Producer.
All right, so they were.
I believe they were Kenyon and then
attacked Jussie Smollett.
So I think the stage band was black.
You're looking at them.
Yeah, the actual singers.
The actual artists were black as well,
but very fat and unattractive.
The one on the left killed himself.
Yes.
That is a fact.
I thought they both ended up killing themselves.
Did they really?
What?
The one on the left killed himself.
Why?
He couldn't handle it.
It was like years later.
Well, they're both dead.
I don't believe so.
I believe they're both passed away.
No.
I think one of them.
There it is.
Yeah.
No, he's not dead.
I mean, the real singers who secretly sang for Millie.
That's the real singers.
There you go.
He's just a bald dude.
They had a couple songs.
Two.
Sing it to the rain or something like that.
What was that?
Blame it.
Blame it on the rain.
And then they had.
Blame it on Lorraine.
No.
Yeah.
The rain.
Yeah, Lorraine.
That's what I said.
I don't think so.
No.
Blame it on the rain.
Agreed.
This is agreed.
Billy Vanellie returns for a new album.
I thought they were dead.
They had a cartoon.
Oh my god.
They're right there.
What was the other one, though?
I think his name is Fabio.
Yeah, that's the guy who's alive.
They did.
That was such a scandal, though.
Robin Fab.
They were nominated for Grammy.
The fact that the studio.
They won Grammy.
They win the Grammy?
Yes.
I'm Sam Sir.
Did they revoke it?
I don't know.
Did they ever revoke any of that bullshit?
The studio?
Ever?
The studio singers.
Do they ever revoke any Grammy?
I don't know.
Pulitzer, Nobel, anything that was based on bullshit ever?
Like Cuomo's Emmy?
I need the top three songs of Millie Vanellie.
Can you get that for me?
Yes.
I have All or Nothing, Girl You Know It's True,
and The Moment of Truth.
Girl You Know It's True.
That's the big one.
Girl you know it.
And yet it is not true.
Girl you know it's true, and yet it's not true.
Yeah, that's bad.
Well, that was bad?
I didn't do good?
No.
Baby, Don't Forget My Number.
I apologize.
Baby, Blame It on the Rain.
Actually, what I told you were albums, not songs.
Oh, baby, Don't Forget My Number.
I don't know how that one goes.
Baby, Don't Forget My Number.
Baby.
You know it.
Oh, I'm going to miss you.
All your songs sound the same.
Girl, I'm going to miss you.
Well, I see.
Michael Jackson?
It's because I have a cough.
Oh, well, there you go.
Anyway, how do we get off of Millie Vanellie?
Oh, bands that are white, that can be mistaken for black.
Right.
That's where we were.
That's where I was.
I think we should start dressing like that.
I already do.
With the tights in the jacket.
When I go downtown for work, that's exactly what I wear.
Those are the only types of clothes that fit me now.
Stretched clothing.
Shut the front door.
I think they were ahead of their time.
Dude, you couldn't fit in an outfit like that 20 years ago.
Oh, those stretchy pants, those little black bicycle pants?
Oh, hell.
I mean, not those, but you know.
They look like a sausage.
With my frickin' junk all squashed up like that?
Of course.
Moose knuckling?
No.
Yeah.
Did you say moose knuckling?
Yes.
That's a new term for me.
Well, it's camel toe and a moose knuckle.
Wow.
That's great.
I think that's his in the White House right now, right?
It camel toes.
Camel toe and a moose knuckle.
Moose knuckle's the other dude.
All right, can we get back to hobbies for a second?
I thought we were talking about bands that you mistaken.
Well, I know.
I think that ran its course.
Well, I don't know.
Did it run its course?
How about black bands that can be mistaken for white?
Living Color.
Oh, damn.
Can you tell me?
I don't know.
They were an awesome band.
Loved them.
Oh, yeah.
They were very, very good.
But I would never mistake them for white.
Little Richard.
Kelly Loggins.
Kenny Loggins.
Kenny Loggins was white.
Who's the?
I was thinking the other one.
But who's the guy that sings Michael McDonald?
Michael McDonald?
Yeah.
Oh, you nailed it.
I know exactly who you're talking about.
Michael McDonald.
There you go.
He kind of sounds like he's black.
No, he doesn't.
No.
Actually, he's got a very soulful voice.
It's a unique voice.
How about Michael?
Well, hold on.
One of the.
Barry White.
Barry White sounds very black.
George Michaels.
He is white.
George Michaels is.
But what I'm saying.
We're talking about black people that sound white.
We're talking about the antithesis of the singer,
regardless whether they're white or black.
You think they're the opposite.
No, I don't think he sounds black.
Well, I mean, but he had.
He sounds very poppy.
But he had a soul album.
So let's go from this from the different perspective.
What artists have you ever been like completely surprised
when you saw them?
Because that's not what you thought.
So do you offer.
What did you think?
Not that she had pink hair and nipple rings and stuff
like that.
OK, so you didn't think like a racial thing,
but just not what you thought.
Like, right.
All right.
What else?
And it's got to be some dude with a really low voice,
you know, and having some small little guy.
You're like, that came out of you.
How about Rick?
Rick Ashley.
That voice did not match that body.
No, you're correct.
Never going to give you up.
Stop Rick rolling me.
Can I give another one?
Do not Rick roll me.
Here's another one.
Rick Roll, Sinead O'Connor.
When I first saw her in a video, I'm like, no hair.
No, that's not.
OK.
Pretty, but no hair.
That matched for me.
Here's the thing.
We all grew up in the MTV era where we saw videos
and saw the artists.
At the same time.
So did you think Prince looked like Prince
when you heard Prince, you know?
That's a good point.
So we all got, and we all went from, hey,
Christopher Cross.
We don't know what Christopher Cross looks like, right?
Yeah, right.
Christopher Cross was like a fat dude, right?
A fat dude, yes, but he had a beautiful voice, right?
But then we went to Whitesnakes.
We know exactly what Whitesnake looks like, right?
Who's the guy who's sang your Swedish saxophone lady?
Gary, what's her name?
Gary Puckett, the Union Gap?
No, your Swedish saxophone teacher.
She could play the song.
Oh, Gary Rafferty.
Jerry Rafferty.
Have you seen what he looks like?
Baker.
Great song by the way.
Jerry Rafferty.
One of the top 10 saxophone songs.
Oh, I'm thinking of the old pictures here with the big old
glasses.
Did he do Baker Street?
Yes.
Yeah.
Jerry Rafferty.
That one right there.
He does not look like he could sing a tune.
That's at 63.
Yeah, so.
He had a massive hit.
He had two massive hits.
A couple massive hits, yeah.
What was the second one?
He was not a one hit wonder.
Oh, he's a two hit wonder.
Two hit wonder.
Which you know what?
You've got to respect that because there were some bands
that never made it to two.
How about Chris Isaac, Wicked Game?
Great.
Well, he was an attractive guy though.
He was an attractive guy.
He wasn't as attractive as Billy Spire.
Well, hold on.
He wasn't as attractive as the woman that was rolling around
on the beach in his video.
Yeah.
Oh my god.
Look up Wicked Game.
Helena Christiansen.
Mr. Producer, please look up Wicked Game.
You know the name of the model?
Yes, right there.
Oh no, it's up.
That video.
Good lord, stop.
Yeah, quite sexy and erotic.
Wow.
It was the eyeliner.
Yeah.
Was it?
No.
Or was it the fucking fact that she was fucking hot?
Hot.
Hotter than hot.
She didn't have eyeliner in the video.
She looks like she's five.
She had like sand all over her boobies.
All right.
Jalene Maxwell or whatever.
Dude, it's weird.
It's different when you've got daughters, which none of you do.
No, no.
Yeah, all these women look hot right now.
I have three boys.
Yeah, we don't have to deal with that, Sean.
Good luck.
Yeah, good luck, son.
Good luck on all of that.
You have to deal with that.
That's why I carry a gun everywhere.
I always got to be ready to kill someone.
Can you go back to Rick Eisley?
Is it Rick?
About Fats Domino.
Hold on, go back to the picture you were showing earlier.
Rick somebody.
Rick Ashley.
So I got to say, a lot of times people don't age gracefully.
He's a good looking dude.
Yeah, he's super gay.
Is he really?
God.
Dude, he doesn't have to do anything but spend money on himself.
How would you know that?
How would you know he's gay?
I would know.
I know nothing.
His dick tastes like shit.
I know nothing.
Oh, you asshole.
He's never going to give you up.
That sucked.
So you do what?
I mean, seriously, I mean, I would know.
I know nothing about this dude.
But I tell you what, he's a one hit wonder.
He looks a little like Martin Short.
They still have pictures of him.
I guess he's still singing.
I don't know.
Good looking dude.
I guarantee he's singing the same song.
I guarantee it.
And he's milking it, which.
Why wouldn't he?
He is milking it.
He's got a nice head.
He's milking it already.
I can promise you he's making more money than I am.
He's got all that free gel.
He's got all kinds of hair gel.
I'm just saying, I respect the fact
that he's still a good looking dude.
I mean, a lot of times you see these guys.
What about Dexie the Midnight Runners?
They go bad.
They go.
Do they look like what you think?
Those are just deep cuts.
No, that's Come On, Eileen.
That's a big hit.
Oh, I don't like that song.
But it's a big hit.
Do you know what they look like?
Well, it's a huge group.
Watch out, Irish redheads.
Is it really?
Dexie the Midnight Runners is kind of like a.
No.
It reminds me of a gypsy traveling band.
Yeah, they look like.
And there it is.
Like Fleetwood Mac.
Yeah, Fleetwood Mac is another one.
Actually, it was Stevie Niggs.
She's a witch.
Well.
A very hot one.
She used to be hot.
I think she's hot.
She was hot.
The guy, the guy, and the dark hair.
Well, I mean, they all were hot.
Just like the two lead singers of Heart, they were both hot.
Yeah.
Well, at one time.
Or one of them.
No, they're both not hot now.
Can you name?
Can you name a female singer that isn't hot?
And that's a loaded question.
But can you name a female singer that isn't hot?
That was never hot.
Even when in their prime.
Besides Lizzie.
Aretha Franklin.
Yeah, I'm fine.
No, she was a hell of a singer.
But it's a loaded question.
How about Katrina from the Katrina in the Waves?
What does she look like?
I did not find her hot ever.
OK.
But like, there's a lot of.
I don't know, man.
It's kind of tough because.
Samantha Fox?
I mean, too hot.
Come on.
Yeah, well, yeah, I mean.
Oh, so the point you're making is if you made it.
Yeah.
If you made it.
It's based on charisma.
You had to be 90% of it.
Britney Spears or whatever.
Yeah.
Who about to lead singer from the.
No, the point.
Like, nine times out of 10.
Time out.
The point is valid.
You're a female singer hot.
The point is valid.
You don't make it in the commercial industry
unless you're hot.
Yeah.
Well, you have to have a commercial.
Or you have to be insanely hot.
Insanely good.
In the city.
I don't think city like Stevie.
Like Stevie, Stevie, Stevie, god damn it.
Ray Vaughn Stevie Ray Vaughn.
I mean, he was an ugly little foe, but that guy was blessed.
You know what?
So with actual guys don't have to be as good looking as girls.
And I hate to say it.
They don't know.
Leading singer for Aerosmith.
They Murphy did a whole deal on it.
You don't have to be hot to be a guy to sing.
Lazy sing Tracy Chapman.
Not good looking, insanely talented.
Yeah, late singer the pylons.
What the hell?
You come up with weird ass shit.
Pylons.
Tracy Chapman is a good one.
That is one bark.
She's not ugly.
Hold on.
I mean, she's ranked up there next to whoopee go.
She looks like Cam Newton there, though.
Yeah, kind of.
Or that Michelle Obama.
Insanely talented.
I'm trying to.
Yeah, she is.
I'm trying.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm going on your premise.
I'm going on your premise of made it.
Hold on.
This is actually.
Made it.
This is actually a tribute to them.
Like I'm giving an accolade.
What about Jewel?
Despite not being.
Oh, OK.
Good point.
Yeah, Jewel looks like the typical Arkansas chick.
And then she fixed her teeth.
Did she?
Yes, she did.
Absolutely.
I didn't know that.
I bet I had a thing for Jewel.
You got to type in Jewel in new mouth.
What problem do you have with Jewel
outside of this snaggletooth?
I mean.
Oh, dude.
There was an issue there.
I'm just going to be honest.
What, it's her teeth?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
No, that's Jewel's state.
That doesn't count.
That's from Firefly.
But these other Jewel.
They were jacked up at one point.
But she fixed them.
What's wrong with that Jewel?
Wow.
I mean, the old Jewel looked like she
used to chew on rocks as a kid.
She could say.
There was one snaggletooth.
And you're going to kick her out of bed for eating crackers.
I never said that.
But that's an interesting point that we're making.
However, Sandwich.
She's a beautiful woman with jacked up teeth.
And.
One jacked up tooth.
But hold on.
And despite the fact.
Look.
Despite the fact.
Hot, hot, hot.
I know.
All across the board.
So let me make my point.
Yeah, well, look at that.
So despite the fact that she had teeth that were not perfect.
There was one snaggletooth behind the other one.
And then all of a sudden, you're going to throw her out of bed.
But the point is.
I think she's attractive.
But we still judged her.
Like, this ain't Wheezy from fucking
Jefferson's or something.
And she's got a mustache.
But we still judged her.
And I'm saying that's wrong.
So does Elaine from Seinfeld.
But we still judged her.
What about the weather girl?
I didn't judge her.
I didn't judge Jewel at all.
I thought she was beautiful.
I thought her voice was fantastic.
I have never, never once.
Look at those boobs.
Yeah, I don't I wouldn't care what her mouth looks like.
She's had some work done there, it looks like.
Looks like.
What about the weather girls?
I would do it too.
Weather girls.
Oh, yeah.
Weather girls.
The go-gos?
No, the weather girls.
I've never even heard of them.
Have you heard the stories of the go-go girls?
Go-go girls?
Go.
Wait.
No.
The go-go.
Music group.
Yeah.
Were they all gay?
No, they were the weather girls.
I guarantee it's raining men.
Yeah.
It's raining men.
How about the people that say, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom,
do, do, do, do.
So about the boys from New York City.
He's kind of down.
He's really tough.
The ladies in this, remember this?
Do you remember who sang that?
Remember the CC power machine?
God bless it.
Everybody dance now.
It was one of those ladies.
That was them?
It was one of them.
They look like school teachers.
It wasn't them.
That's another Milli Vanilli thing.
Because in the video, you had some voluptuous lady singing
Everybody Dance Now.
But it's one of them ladies that sings it, actually.
That's a good point.
Really?
I didn't get called out, did it?
That scandal.
No, not like Milli Vanilli.
Was it a scandal?
Milli Vanilli was.
Milli Vanilli was a massive scandal.
Yeah, I know he gives a fuck though.
I don't know which one it is.
Martha Washington, I think, is her name,
was the one who ends up singing that CC power machine.
I don't even care.
Power factory, music factory, whatever.
She got the voice to do it?
Then do it.
Yeah.
But they didn't want her in the video.
Well, some of these folks, you don't want it.
Like, for example, you got these rockers that are
house musicians, right?
That know how to play the instrument,
but they don't have the look.
And so they just, they're on their, yeah.
They're on the album.
Well, it can be white, black, whoever.
Look at Rodney James Dio.
He's like four and a half feet tall.
He's quite ugly.
Yeah.
But he's good.
He's got a great voice.
He's good.
You know, you've got a bunch of, but then you've
got the opposite, you know?
Well, Elton John.
Man.
Does he attract the male, you think?
I guess.
You know what?
His music is such a.
Flashy the way that.
He's a performer.
That fish bait is flashy.
He is not a performer at all.
Look at this.
He's not attractive.
But people love him because he's a performer.
What I'm saying is, he's gay.
Does he attract the men?
He attracts somebody because he's got some,
he has young talent hanging out with his house all the time.
And whether it's paid for or not, it's irrelevant.
Well, that could be, I want to be near him to get my break,
kind of a thing.
Well, I mean, wasn't he married to a young, in his 20s kind of guy?
Well, he was married to a woman at one point, I think.
And then.
He married a woman first.
Was her name Joseph?
No.
He married a woman first, and then they divorced,
and then he married a guy.
Yeah.
And well.
There it is, right there.
Renee.
Bleu.
That's weird.
Renate Blauel.
Bleu.
It's a blue.
That is an odd name.
But she looks familiar.
But she's got beautiful blue eyes, doesn't she?
Yeah.
That perfect nose.
Completely.
There's always something to dark hair.
God, look how big those eyes are.
Look, dark hair and blue eyes has an inherent attractiveness to it,
because there is a contrast.
Yeah.
Then you have him with this little red.
He's an odd character.
I mean, he has a movie out, right?
It was good.
Yeah, Rockin' Man.
It was good.
I saw it.
Rockin' Man.
It was pretty sad.
I think it came out around the same time that the Freddie
Mercury movie came out.
Came out after, because they were trying
to capitalize on the Queen.
But you know what?
It worked.
And I think there are two great stories that need to be told.
What was the Queen movie?
The Bohemian Rhapsody.
Yeah.
I mean, two great stories.
I mean, about two fantastic singers.
I mean, it's a story that needs to be told,
and people need to look at that.
Rodney James Deal right there.
Rodney James Deal.
He is super ugly.
Oh my god.
He looks like Skeletor.
Yeah, I was just going to say this there.
By the power of Grayskull.
Yeah, he is not attractive.
But man, his voice is unique and strong.
He's a lost and found.
Did you ever look at the Rodney James Deal albums
and then turn over the album or the CD?
Turn it upside down?
Turn it upside down, and it said, devil, right?
Does it?
Did you play it backwards?
Did you turn it upside down?
Just look up Dio Album, Mr. Producer.
Dio Album cover?
Yes, album cover.
And what?
OK, so the Dio here, if you turn it upside down,
it looks like D-E-V-I-L, going backwards.
Well, there you have it.
Actually, it does.
Yeah, turn that around.
D-E-V-I-L.
Oh, there you go.
Yep.
That was on purpose, though.
It was on purpose.
Yeah, I'm sure it is.
Just like Kiss, Kids in Service to Satan.
Or Kids in Servitude.
Really?
What?
Never heard that.
That is ridiculous.
No, yeah, no.
Were you not Catholic?
You're Catholic.
Kids in Service to Satan.
Yes, K-I-S-S, Kids in Satan's Service.
I thought they wanted to kiss everyone.
I just thought the name was Kiss.
Their love gun?
Fucking love gun.
Kiss was a, I think we talked about this last one.
This week, Kiss was a very, very average band
that just happened to be the sign of the times for them.
Yeah, you talked about the other day.
And I agree with you.
There's a lot of average bands.
Yeah.
ACDC.
They make the ticket.
ACDC.
Yeah.
Who I give them for creating licks.
They have the licks.
It's not just the licks, but it's the voice, too.
You know, you had Scott, and you had Brian.
No.
You have to have that.
It's definitely a unique talent.
You have to have that.
But you don't have to have a lot of,
you don't have to have Eddie Van Halen talent,
or Steve Rayvon talent.
Just like that.
No, not like that at all.
No.
That's Eddie Van Halen.
Eddie Van Halen was a genius.
He was.
That was a big loss this year.
What, Eddie Van Halen?
That was last year, wasn't it?
I thought it was this year.
That was last year.
Was it really?
I think so, yeah.
Do we need to cover the big deaths of 2021?
We need to do that next week.
So we need to do our research.
So he died in 2020.
Yeah, last year.
Yeah.
Oh, shit.
October.
I can't believe it.
It's been over a year already.
Yes.
Well, do you miss him?
I do.
He's show up in your family functions.
He was my favorite artist of all time, without a handsgown.
Van Halen was my band growing up as a kid.
Was it true that he had his tongue cut out?
So he was battling tongue and throat cancer.
Oh, because he put the picks in his mouth.
Well, that's what he attributed to, was metal picks.
It wasn't a smoking?
No, he said it was metal picks.
He said the part of the tongue that he
had to have cut out while he was fighting tongue cancer
was exactly where he puts his pick.
That's interesting.
And not where he put his cigarette.
That's what he said.
Who knows?
I mean, he would know.
I mean, it makes sense.
Think about it.
If he curls it, I don't know exactly how unique it was,
like under his tongue or right on the edge,
or he said exactly where he puts his pick.
Oh, so he'd keep one in his mouth
for when he needed another one.
Boom.
Oh, I didn't know that.
And that's where the cancer was.
It seemed fair.
I mean, he would know.
So it was under his tongue.
I don't know exactly where it was.
What do you have a slice?
Did he slice it?
Was it like a pocket?
I don't know.
In there?
Yeah, he was like a kangaroo tongue.
He had a pouch.
Marsupial tongue?
Marsupial pouch.
Yes, yes.
The ugly truth about Olmstead.
Anyway, maybe he should use plastic picks.
Well, in retrospect, it's a moot point at this point.
But think about it.
40 years of playing guitar or whatever it was.
Probably, yeah, probably 40 years.
I think he played guitar.
Whatever it was.
No, 40 years, though.
Right.
That's the whatever I'm talking about.
40 years.
I don't know how long.
You're not doubting the guitar.
You're doubting the time.
He was good?
The time, yeah.
I don't know how long he played guitar.
Let's see.
I'm going.
I mean, he was 60-something?
Since the 70s to when he died in 2020.
Well, Van Halen started in 72.
Yeah.
And he was playing before that.
So 50 years.
First time he picked up 72.
Is that what he said?
Yeah.
Oh, very nice.
With the creation of the band.
First time he picked up a guitar.
You've been a smart ass, you dick.
I heard the story was he played drums and Alex played guitar.
And they realized they both sucked.
And then they swapped.
That's the story I read.
I went for the Van Halen movie.
There's a movie?
I bet there will be.
There should be.
There's some great music, a great story.
Oh, I would love that.
Lee Roth, the whole from the beginning to end.
You two had their own movie, Rattlin' Hum.
Why wouldn't Van Halen do a movie like that?
That doesn't count as a movie.
Well, just the whole lifespan, right?
Starting out.
I agree.
Starting out as a documentary.
Just like the Bee Gees, right?
Have you watched the Bee Gees documentary?
I have.
It's great.
Is it on Netflix?
No.
OK.
I think it's on HBO.
I need to find it.
Because I love the Bee Gees.
The Bee Gees documentary was.
I have a tremendous amount of respect for the Bee Gees.
They were responsible for many, many hits.
They broke up for a while.
HBO Max.
Well, the brother wanted control.
The brother felt he should be the lead singer.
They all sang.
No, Robin on the right felt he needed to be the lead singer.
He wanted to be the lead.
And Barry, basically, he was groomed by American influence
to be the lead singer by the record labels
here in the United States.
But he had so much better chest hair.
Well, I mean, whatever.
I mean, at the end of it, they were still.
They're a great band.
They harmonize very well.
If you want to watch, I've got HBO Max.
I've got it.
If you want to come over and watch it.
So it'll take two hours.
And it's fascinating.
Because they start out not disco at all.
And they break up.
And they're almost done.
And they try to figure out, OK, what do we do next?
They were amazing during the disco era.
It's Eric Clapton.
No way.
Eric Clapton got them into the falsetto and the disco sound.
Like, he just advised them what to do,
or he wrote their music.
He advised them.
He goes, you need to go with this sound.
And they all had the falsetto, but like crazy falsetto.
I think that was Eric Clapton.
Well, that's interesting.
Because they really have the falsetto.
I mean, but it really works for them.
That might be the last funny skit on SNL
was the Barry Gibb talk show.
Oh, where he talks all high voice.
Talking it up.
Oh, the Barry Gibb talk show.
Talking about politics.
Yeah.
I tell you what, they had high.
SNL was, I mean, they really have some funny stuff.
It's just.
They do, but they've lost it.
But not recently.
They gave it up.
They're too.
They're too whoa.
They're too involved into the lopeness.
I tell you what, the one funny thing
they got going now, the one thing
the funny they got going now is the weekend update.
They got the black guy and the white guy.
That's funny.
Were they making write each other's content?
Yeah, and they don't know until they read it.
And it's highly racialized.
Oh, yeah.
And it's funny.
That's the only thing I think is funny right now.
You know what?
See if you can pull up a skit from that.
It's the weekend update SNL.
Yeah, those guys right there.
That is, see if you can find a little video clip of that.
So they're pretty good, huh?
Well, yeah, they're extremely funny.
They're extremely racist because they write each other's shit.
And they try to fuck with each other.
Oh, yeah.
And they're reading it.
They're like, oh, this isn't going to go bad,
but I got to finish it.
So why do they not get canceled for that?
Well, because.
Why do they have a pass?
Well, because the black guy is writing the black racist jokes.
You understand where I'm going here.
Oh, I know.
See if you can play it.
Why do they get a pass and no other comedians do?
I don't know.
I don't like that.
But I would like to see a clip of it.
Well, say the weekend update highlights
because you need to find the one where they kind of snub.
Because it's not every single one.
Regular use of marijuana may disrupt people's sleep.
That's adorable, said Cocaine.
Yeah, like this one is not.
It was reported that Sylvester Stallone
will star in a new TV series playing an Italian mob
boss from Kansas City in what is an absolute nightmare
scenario for the closed captioning guy.
So he didn't write that?
The other guy did?
Now, there's certain sections where they do it.
And it's only certain episodes they do it with.
And it's funny.
I would like to see one.
I've never seen one.
So we could update.
It's not worth fighting through SNL to see the funny one.
I don't disagree.
I don't disagree with what you're saying.
Yeah, I don't know how to search for it, though.
I'm trying to find it.
Because that's my frustration is like, there's no.
I don't want to support them.
I have banned SNL.
Right.
And it's been a long time.
I don't want to support them.
And I don't want to support them.
And I don't want to hear that.
Write others jokes.
Yeah, write others jokes.
Well, let's give it a shot here.
This might be a funny concept.
All right, let's see what this is.
Guys, tonight is the last show of the season.
And Shay and I have decided that our end of the year
gifts to each other would once again be jokes.
Yeah.
See, this is funny.
We're making each other read jokes live on air
that the other person has never seen before.
And the idea is to keep it fun, light.
No one's going to get canceled.
No one's families are going to get threatened.
Have fun.
Sure, we'll see.
We'll watch it first.
We'll see.
Sure, we'll see.
Yeah.
That's fine.
This is obese monkey sent to weight loss facility.
An obese monkey in Thailand named Godzilla has been sent
to a special facility to lose weight.
Official realized the monkey was overweight
when a bunch of black guys kept hitting on it.
Look at his face.
That was pretty racist, Colin.
Las Vegas is opening a pop-up vaccine site in a strip club.
And don't worry, the strippers say the vaccine is a lot
like Michael Che.
Very quick and you can barely feel it go in.
Oh, look at him go racial every time.
Warner Brothers is producing a new movie
in which Superman is black.
And a black Superman actually makes a lot of sense
when you remember that Superman was abandoned
by his parents as a victim.
That's horrible.
Well, I knew you'd like that one, so here's another one.
Yeah, look at him.
He's like, there's more?
Warner Brothers is producing a new movie
in which Superman is black.
In this version, black Superman's kryptonite
is an honest day's work.
This is great.
Really doubling down on black Superman.
San Diego police are being investigated
after video surfaced of them using
excessive force on a homeless black man accused
of urinating in public.
But I say great work keeping our streets clean, boys.
Yes, sir, anything the police do is all right with old Mikey Che.
I know I'm probably the only black man brave enough
to say this on live TV, but blue lives matter even more.
OK, I like it.
I tell you what.
I'm in.
I tell you what.
I would at least search for that on YouTube and watch that.
But I don't want to watch the whole show, though.
The rest of the show is garbage.
They've jumped the shark on all the...
Well, first of all, I don't like some of the people
that are on there.
They're just absolute hardcore,
left-wing fanatics.
I hate it.
And if they can change their ways,
I don't give a fuck what their policy views are.
Just have fun with it.
And when they lose the spirit of having fun with it
and where it's just downright mean and aggressive and...
And not just that stupid.
And if you're going to do that, do it on both sides.
Do it on both sides. Make fun of everybody.
But you've got to have kind of a stopping point
where that's too much.
You've taken that too far.
Too personal.
We just watched two guys write each other's jokes
from the opposite perspective
and get rave, funny jokes out of it.
And go way overboard.
And go way...
Well, you know what?
That was awesome.
But funny, that's what comedy is supposed to be.
And comedy is going overboard.
But what we get is just vanilla bullshit.
Yeah, they're trying to water it down.
And trying to be...
To be safe.
Yes, and trying to be safe on one side.
Oh, I'm only going to make fun of Ted Cruz.
No.
How about you make fun of the other ridiculous side equally
and go back and forth and banter?
That's where you have Alec Baldwin
and the experiences that he's going through.
And even though as unfortunate as I know it is for him,
and even though I wouldn't wish it on anybody,
I'm thinking it's a fucking full circle on karma.
Yeah.
No, no, my God, that guy.
And if there's a meme going around that says,
if SNL had any funny bone to them,
they would hire Donald Trump to play Alec Baldwin.
Right?
Wouldn't that be awesome?
Actually, that would be...
Donald Trump to come there and do a monologue
is Alec Baldwin?
That would prove that they're there...
That they're there for funniness.
For fun and comedy.
For comedy.
That's a great point.
And not for political points.
Talk about turning the whole thing upside down.
Yes, they would flip it on its head and they go,
oh my, they would get such ratings.
They would get such ratings.
It's too dark.
Did you see...
They would talk about it, they'd watch.
Did you see Alec Baldwin's interview?
Oh my God, what the hell?
See if you can pull some of that up.
Alec Baldwin ABC interview.
He blamed her.
Was she in charge of it?
He blamed her for killing him.
He blamed the gun.
No, he blamed her.
Yeah, I'm talking about the director.
It's her fault because she asked me to point the gun at her.
Yeah, repeatedly.
And they're like, oh, she said, oh, pointed at me.
I'm actually...
I didn't watch any of this.
I have no idea.
I don't know how it's his fault.
It's not his fault.
Yeah, but for some reason they're criticizing him.
Yeah, I think that's bullshit.
And they're saying the interview left them with more questions
than answers.
That's because he's an idiot.
But I don't blame him for what happened.
He's not responsible for making sure that the damn gun is loaded.
He's not responsible for it.
Several people...
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Even the actor looks before he does anything.
Still, that's gun...
That's gun protocol on the set.
That's 101.
You're handed a gun and you don't check it for live rounds?
Every single time.
I'm not blaming him.
I am.
Here's the only reason why I defend Alec Baldwin on this,
is that I agree that if anyone hands you a gun,
you need to check to see if it's loaded.
Absolutely.
I don't disagree with that.
When you have a gun that is loaded with a prop, explosion,
pop or sound, smoke, whatever they have in there,
that make it look like a blank that looks authentic,
how are you to know the difference between a real live round and that?
I've heard other actors say they look every single time.
Okay, but that's a down.
That's protocol that you should do.
It's protocol that they should do.
The whole set was a problem.
They had people walking off before this happened because of the danger
of what the protocols were not being followed.
How many guns are on how many sets that they have?
How many actors that an actress is...
Well, we talked about this.
...fire off weapons.
They had someone die of a blank that they put up against their head.
Okay, look, yes, a blank against a head is going to get you killed, right?
Yeah.
But a blank against a person who's 20 feet away is not going to kill that person, right?
So you can actually...
Look, if you look at John Wick or Matrix or whatever that has a lot of gunfire in it
or any Marvel movie, there are thousands of rounds that go off.
Are we going to hold him accountable for this?
I think there's some accountability he needs.
Yes.
Do you think he needs to spend time in jail?
I don't know, but I think there needs to be some accountability for it.
So what is the accountability?
I mean, the accountability could be as simple as, hey, man, moving forward on any set period,
these are the new rules that we're going to set in place.
I think he needs to have some kind of at least probation and a heavy fine.
I kind of disagree.
I disagree, too.
As much as I don't like the guy and I don't hate him...
If you're handed a gun, a revolver, you look.
Jeff, there were two armorers, right?
The armorers on set.
That doesn't matter.
You still look.
And I'm not disagreeing with them not following protocol.
And I'm not saying Alec Baldwin was the reason why they didn't follow protocol,
but the bottom line is...
The protocol was jaded.
An armorer and an assistant armorer check the weapon and then hand it to the...
You're the final check.
You need to look.
And then hand it to the actor, and the actor is supposed to act in the scene and do what
he's supposed to do with the weapon.
You're right.
There's no way it could be Alec Baldwin's fault.
But that rule isn't set in place.
That rule...
Well, how do we know?
Do you know that?
Is there a rule?
Is it a one-on-one book for acting?
I think there is, because a lot of people have come out and said, I look at every single
gun that's handed to me.
Yeah, but that...
I mean, if that's the case, then okay.
But time out.
That's not necessarily protocol.
That is what certain actors do because of their preference.
So we don't know.
What I'm hearing is we don't know.
We don't.
You're making up the opinion on what you think.
I'm making an opinion on what I think.
So we don't know what the protocol really is.
All we hear is what the New Mexico sheriff is saying.
If he is supposed to check, then he's supposed to check.
If you're an actor and you're a high-level actor and someone hands you...
And a producer of the movie.
Yeah, man, I don't know.
It's bad news.
Because what I've heard is...
I know the producer has extra level of...
What I've heard is directors look, the actors look when they're handing a gun.
If I handed you a gun and says, I want you to shoot Sean, are you going to look at the
bullet?
Yeah, you are.
If I'm an actor and there are three people that have checked the weapon and they tell
me this is what you need to handle in your scene, you need to focus on your lines and
what you're doing in that scene, I'm not focused on the weapon.
He's not a gun enthusiast.
And I go back to...
He doesn't know what to check for.
I go back to...
I don't know who said it, but if the NRA was not as demonized as they are, they could have
a presence on these sets to help with this.
Exactly.
I don't disagree, but you guys are adding...
No, he's a fault.
I think you're adding politics and emotion to the situation.
No, I'm not adding politics.
I wouldn't care if I'm not adding politics.
I can't stand Alec Baldwin.
I can't stand him.
I can't stand his politics.
So you think he should walk free.
But the bottom line is under no circumstances did he intend to kill somebody.
Did he intend to shoot somebody?
I'm not saying he should be...
He was handed a weapon.
We're not saying he intended...
He shouldn't be murdered, first degree murder.
It shouldn't be first degree murder, but there are some culpability on him that he needs
to be accountable for.
Now, if you tell me that as the producer, as the lead actor, he had a role in watering
down the policies and the procedures and that put people at risk, I'm 100% with you.
I think that's what happened.
Okay, then I'm 100% with you.
But if you're talking about...
Let's say it wasn't Alec Baldwin.
Let's say it was some no-name side actor.
Alec Baldwin had a weapon and the other...
I think there's a degree of culpability.
Some no-name actor had a weapon and his discharged and killed not the director, but some light
guy, guy holding the lights.
Would that guy be just as accountable as Alec Baldwin?
I think so.
Yeah.
I'm going to...
We're going to have to agree to disagree on this one.
Because he should have checked.
He should have checked.
I don't care Alec Baldwin or Miley Cyrus or whoever it is.
I don't care who it is.
It's kind of tough.
The person had a gun in their hand...
I understand what you're saying.
...didn't check it for live rounds before they fired.
I think that the rules were extremely loose.
I think the set was corrupted before this.
Yeah.
And that was the trend that people were talking about.
The administrators should be at fault.
I wouldn't necessarily put on Alec Baldwin.
I would put on the infrastructure that he had.
Well, he is the infrastructure.
Well, we don't know that.
We don't know that.
He's the executive producer.
Well, but there's hundreds of people involved in a movie.
I know, but he was having people walk off the court, the meeting.
What it does do is that it creates a fantastic, unfortunately a fantastic marker moving forward
that this is what needs to happen.
We will always...
But this is not the first time this has happened.
Well, this is the first time it's gotten mainstream media like this.
When Brandon Lee got killed back in the 90s, it was just as big.
How come nobody made charge of that?
We didn't have 24-7 news back then either.
But after the Brandon Lee...
We didn't have woke motherfuckers either.
So after the Brandon Lee incident, it actually, like exactly what we're hoping happens, which
is more protocol, more regulation, it did cause that.
They had more safety precautions put into place after the Brandon Lee accident.
Right.
Well, they should have specially color coded bullets.
Something.
Yeah.
Something needs to happen.
Something.
Yeah.
I think it's interesting that the four of us...
This is like a two, a two V two guy that none of us like.
Oh, I can't stand that.
And I find that very interesting.
None of us like him.
I know.
And yet two of y'all are defending him and two of us are like...
I want to absorb that moment.
Don't you think that's kind of cool?
That objectively, we're both...
All four of us are giving our opinions about somebody.
All four of us don't like the guy.
All four of us agree that he's a liberal fuck.
And yet we're looking...
Honestly, politics come into it.
But we're looking at the facts of the situation, the circumstances of the situation, and we're
all kind of weighing in on...
It's almost like we're in a jury.
I think this is a cool discussion.
That's my point.
I think it's a cool discussion that we can have this.
And there's passion, right?
Clearly, we're passionate.
We're all being loud.
Our producers telling us to calm down.
Hey, I will pose this one question that none of us even put together, but going back eight
subjects ago, would Mike Pence be a good candidate?
No.
He's a pussy.
I'm sorry.
Wow.
Did I just say that?
No, I don't think he would be a good candidate.
No, and I don't even think you're projecting or something like that, but yeah, he's a pussy.
I shouldn't have used that word.
He's not a strong person.
He is a very... he's an outstanding...
He's milquetoast.
No, but the thing is, he's everything you want a politician to be.
Fuck a senator.
Very respectful and very...
He's a good senator.
... very honorable and very everything, very religious and everything, but he's not strong
enough.
He's not a representative of the United States.
No, we don't need milquetoast right now.
No, we don't.
We need milquetoast in the background.
We don't need milquetoast up front.
I agree with that.
Okay.
He was a perfect VP.
Yeah.
Oh, fine.
Yeah, he had a great term as VP.
Yeah.
I'll let that go.
So jumping back forward to the guns, and I don't know, it's unfortunate and I feel bad
for all people and I didn't get to see any details about the interview, but like I said...
I saw some of it.
He came across as like he was acting to me anyway.
Yeah, but what part of it left them with more questions than answers?
I didn't see the whole thing.
I don't know.
I heard the interview did not go well.
Well, he blamed her.
Yes.
He killed her and he blamed her.
He's an idiot.
Yeah.
Now, look, anybody who's like accused of a crime doesn't need to be on TV.
Stop it.
Oh, well, no.
What are you doing?
Oh, yeah.
His lawyers were like...
What are you doing?
Get off of TV.
Get off of the window.
Yeah, because he's not off TV.
He said that in the TV interview, he did not pull the trigger of the gun that went off
and killed the cinematographer.
Get off TV.
He says he cocked it all the way back and it just went off.
It went off.
Yes.
The gun went off.
A gun that just didn't go off, which means even if I'm absolving him of blame, he's still
being a liar about it.
A liar.
Yeah.
I mean, own up to it, man.
He was in an emotional interview on US TV with ABC's new George Stephanopoulos.
He is a narcissist.
You're a high level liar.
Baldwin added that he couldn't give a shit about his career.
The actor said he didn't pull the trigger on the gun that killed Hutchins 42 and injured
Sousa 48.
The gun he was holding, which Baldwin believed to be safe, went off during rehearsals for
The Western in an incident that shocked Hollywood, prompted a reckoning over production safety
and the use of weapon on the set.
So he responded to comments by fellow actors, George Clooney.
Let me scroll down here.
I think George Clooney is the one who said that he checks every gun that's handed to
him.
Yeah.
And good for him.
I think that's awesome.
Good for him.
And he's been trained.
You know, if it's NRA trained or however.
Stephanopoulos said, so you never pulled the trigger?
And Alec responded, no, no, no, no, no.
I would never point a gun at anyone and pull the trigger.
Never, never.
Bullshit.
The director said, let go of the hammer of the weapon and then just went off.
He's so full of shit.
He explicitly denied responsibility for the shooting, said saying he would have killed
himself if he believed he was at fault.
But I feel someone is responsible for what happened.
But I don't know.
It wasn't me.
I might have killed myself if I thought I was responsible.
He also said I don't say that lightly.
Well, he also said that he didn't know that she died till 45 minutes to an hour after
it happened.
Where he got that happen?
He wander off to call his lawyer.
Boom.
She goes falling down on the ground.
He just kind of walks away.
He's a douchebag.
We all know that.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, it's kind of a somber ending for this dudes like us, but it touches on some, uh,
some stuff that, you know, dudes like us talk about dudes like us experience.
I mean, it's I'm gonna need the news though.
I mean, it was a pretty heavy topic into the last month of 2021.
It's spectacular.
I'm Sean.
I'm Jeff.
I'm Paul.
I'm Jeff.
Good night, guys.
And I'll talk to you later.