Man, that was split second as soon as you say start, it was on.
Boom, boom.
Mr. Producer doesn't mess around.
He's like, hey, I got things to do.
You're gonna make me seven minutes late next week, you know what I'm saying?
You have been here for an hour.
Speaking of assholes, did you take my koozie?
Yeah, sure.
There's a mind bender, wasn't it?
Well here's the deal, because I recall bringing it downstairs last time we were here.
I did the same thing and it disappeared forever.
Yeah, well mine was still down there, but I was just like, well maybe that is yours.
And then I came up here, well Paul lost his koozie.
No, I didn't lose it.
It evaporated.
No, it's your koozie, you lost it.
It evaporated.
It's just gone.
It's just continuously combusting.
Yeah, correct.
Yeah, we have, you know, Mr. Jeff took the bearded butcher tour and brought back some
koozie, some dudes like us.
Yeah, where was that?
It's up in Ohio.
Yeah, we went up and visited my sister, not this summer, this past year, but the year
before, and I've watched their videos and I was like, I'm gonna be in Ohio, let's drive
up there and see.
So that's not a show that's on TV, they have a YouTube channel.
They're butchers in the middle of nowhere, Ohio.
Okay.
Northeast of, in between Columbus and Cleveland, like in the middle of nowhere.
So he came back with three koozies and they became very prized possessions as part of
this podcast.
They sit on the back of our microphone stands, they're very important to us, and then mine
disappeared.
Paul lost his.
No, mine disappeared.
Mine's right here.
And then we were down there getting ready to come up and we found one downstairs and
we're like, oh my God, that's the missing koozie.
We found it.
Kind of like Indiana Jones, you know?
And then we bring it back.
Dr. Jones!
Exactly.
We bring it back up and I'm noticing that there's really two missing now upstairs.
And so obviously it wasn't mine, it was his, but I went ahead and took my koozie, the replacement
koozie off of mine, and put his on mine and made it seem like it was mine.
You're so sneaky.
I am sneaky.
You sneaky son of a bitch.
Squirrely.
All right, gentlemen, it is December 7th.
What is the significance of this day, gentlemen?
It's actually a somber day.
It's this day will live in infamy.
Yes, why not?
I need a straw.
Okay, that's too low.
I think that was Chinese.
Was I talking backwards?
That was backwards.
Yeah.
Wow.
Satan like kiss.
Play as her.
You know.
The big one when I was growing up was Queen, everyone, another one bites dust.
That was the theory is if you did that one backwards.
I told you, I took a cassette tape and I flipped the wheels, the reels over, which is like
performing brain surgery.
Yeah, I was going to say there's easier ways to do that.
Just get the record.
So.
Okay, well, I didn't have a record player.
I had a cassette player, but I did that and we played it and sure enough.
I was going over.
Hold on, hold on.
I want you to hear this.
We all leaned in as carefully as we could to listen to another one bites the dust and
we swore it said, got to smoke marijuana.
You must have been smoking marijuana.
No, I never done that.
Smoke marijuana.
But that's what we all heard.
Oh, right.
Got to smoke marijuana.
I think it was all suggestion because that's what they said.
So you're like, oh, I hear it.
You could have said everyone licks buttholes and you would have heard that.
No, I think you would have heard that.
I heard guys.
I think it was a seventh grader.
I probably would have anyway.
Maybe eighth grade.
I don't know.
But it's very creepy sounding.
You can turn anything backwards or play it backwards and you convince it's satanic because
it just sounds.
You probably hear anything you want.
Yeah, it could be Barry Manilow, you know, right?
And play Barry Manilow backwards and it's like, possibly.
Anyway, sounds like back to this day.
It is the would you say the 80th?
The 80th anniversary of the sneak cowardly attack on Pearl Harbor.
Well, I mean, was it cowardly?
Absolutely.
Yeah, but we weren't even at war.
Well, I mean, if those those people were so, you know, there was a sneak attack.
It was a sneak attack by a bunch of jack wagons.
You know what really which I think that people don't grasp, you know, you think of Pearl
Harbor.
Oh, we got attacked.
I think what people don't grasp is that there was like 2335 people that died.
Oh, yeah.
That's a lot.
A lot of us still a lot of people, man.
A lot of us still on the bottom of the the Arizona.
Yeah.
Yeah, they're still still there.
Are there two?
Are there two warships that are still there?
Arizona is there.
I think the Oklahoma sank as well.
Yeah, there's two two battleships that sank.
Yeah, with the exception of those, I think I think I remember reading every single one
of them was put back into into action because the Japanese government could do things quickly.
Well, because the Japanese made a massive mistake.
They did not attack the naval repair fields, the maintenance field.
And so all of almost all of them, I think, with the exception of the ones that are still
there were put back into operation and rather quickly and using using those shipyards.
Yeah, but it was a somber day.
It's very somber.
You know, President Roosevelt, Franklin Roosevelt made an announcement saying that the day would
go down in infamy to the House of Congress and to all the American citizens on that day.
I think that's where he declared war, wasn't it?
He declared war on Japan on that day.
Oh, for sure.
And then some other folks, the Soviet Union and France, I believe, joined in and wanted
to take us on.
They were they know we didn't go against France.
It was the axis.
Italy was Italy, Germany, Japan.
And that's it.
And then the allies were Britain, France, basically everyone else.
Soviets were in there.
I don't know if they were part of it, but they were fighting.
I don't think it was the French.
They were fighting.
I don't think it was either.
I was spoke.
It was they were fighting the Germans on their own front because Hitler had designs on taking
over Russia.
So you had that battle of Stalingrad that was I think the allies were Great Britain,
Australia and United States.
When they when they talk about history, look that up.
Look it up.
Well, who are the allies in World War Two Axis and allies, Axis and allies.
It was clearly Germany, Italy and Japan were the axis and the allied were America, Great
Britain and Australia.
So no Europeans.
I don't believe so.
But you know what?
We're about to find out.
Well, don't they have a video of a game called Allied Powers?
Yeah, Germany, Italy and Japan.
Yep, we know those.
So scroll down and then we have United States, Britain and Soviet Russia.
They were considered in China and China.
Wow.
How things have changed.
You know, what's interesting in World War Two is that China was very so Japan brutalized
everybody in Asia, brutalized them.
Big time, especially China.
I think there's still some hard feel.
Oh, there's still hard feelings.
Korea, China, the Philippines, the entire Southeast Asia.
Right.
Was brutalized by Japan and China, especially.
And so China was very sympathetic to, you know, our war effort.
Well, that was before they turned communist, I believe.
Right.
That is correct.
Right.
So they were now Russia.
Not so much.
Russia was just the friend of my.
What is it?
The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
What?
And that's how they were playing it until Germany was defeated.
Right.
And then at that point, it got tense.
I mean, you remember everybody.
Scrambled to get into Berlin.
Right.
And Russia.
You know, took over East East Germany and put up the wall.
Right.
And well, they took over East Germany first.
Right.
And then they said, well, no, no, no, we have our part of Berlin.
The Axis have their part of Berlin and Russia has the other side of Berlin.
And they fricking put up a wall in between.
And it was have you ever read the stories of the Berlin Wall?
Like it would be like another as a group back then called Berlin.
You know, saying some nice hits.
Yes.
No, that wasn't.
No, that well, that's not quite the same.
Oh, OK.
So it literally they literally made the decision to to put up that wall so quickly that your
son is on one side.
Well, he's he's at a friend's house doing a sleepover.
And they don't see their son for 40 years.
I mean, he was that serious.
Yeah, that was crazy.
They used to families were separated.
Friends separate stories where, you know, they're they're sending balloons over the
with notes and and just just the the horrific stuff that went on over there to, you know,
lights out, you know, they took their, you know, there was a call when you have to lights
out of the curfew, they took the curfew ship, man.
Papas, please.
You know, and Russia was brutal, man.
Beat the shit out of it.
I remember the Soviet Union.
The Soviet Union was brutal.
And they yeah, they were people that tried to they got so tired of people trying to escape
from East Berlin to West Berlin that that's why they put up one of the the classic pictures
that I remember because I lived in in Germany and there was a poster they had up of this
guy jumping over the barbed wire.
Oh, yeah.
And he was wearing a Western Germany outfit.
So he was kind of like just standing there and he just basically was a call when you
you you you leave another country and you defect.
Defect.
Exactly what he defected.
He just like he's an East German.
He was an East and he's running over to the West for to safety.
Right.
You know, so that's amazing, you know, to think about that.
And you see the little snapshot and his it was perfectly focused with the the barbed
wire underneath his legs and he's jumping right over it.
It was a little snapshot time.
In fact, it's amazing how.
Yeah, I mean, there were a number of people killed.
Well, it's amazing.
It's amazing how effective a wall is.
Yeah, it is.
Is it?
Yep.
People out, kept people in.
Yeah, it works.
And what was really interesting is along that border.
You had to use the port of entry.
Right.
So you had to use certain areas.
Yeah, you had to use certain areas to go in and out.
And another thing amazing about the wall is in some places it was not a wall.
It was the it was the side of a building.
So they would brick up the windows.
They bricked up all the windows.
And then when when the building ended and it went to an open area, it became a wall
again.
I mean, it was wherever the border was.
Right.
They made it completely impenetrable.
Right.
It was a mess.
And then if you remember, Russia, the Soviet Union put pressure on on the West to get out
of Berlin.
Right.
And so they started there's a picture right there.
And so they started the blockade.
So the 25th anniversary of the fall in Berlin Wall, that guy jumping right there.
That's the picture I was actually referring to.
Yep.
He made a run for it.
He's like, fuck that.
I'm out of here.
So you remember, so the Soviet Union blockaded Berlin.
So they would not allow any they wouldn't allow any allied trucks or supplies or humanitarian
aid to drive across eastern Germany.
Remember Berlin is in eastern Germany.
Right.
So it's secluded in the middle of eastern Germany and West Germany couldn't get to
West Berlin inside East Germany.
Is that where Munich is in West Germany?
I don't know.
What was the capital of West Germany?
I don't know.
East Berlin, West Berlin.
Maybe it's Charles Strasse.
Right.
So you see.
OK, well, that's east and west.
Checkpoint Charles Strasse.
Charles Strasse.
Yeah, that's Charlie Strasse.
Friedrich Strasse.
Charles Strasse.
Anyway, that's a big B.
I am telling an amazing story.
You're not listening.
Invalid in Strasse.
And so they started the blockade.
They Western Berlin was completely isolated.
All the people, all the people, they weren't getting supplies or anything.
And then the airlift.
And the amazing Berlin airlift happened.
Remember the airlift?
Similar to a Saigon.
No, they were flying all these bombers from World War II.
Right.
It was right after the war, like the year or two after the war.
So all the bombers were flying over East Germany and dropping everything they needed to into
West Berlin so that those people could eat.
Right.
And finally, they lifted the siege.
They lifted the blockade and then they allowed trucks to go through again.
This was crazy.
Take down this wall.
Well, I remember way back in the 80s.
Was that Reagan?
That was Reagan.
When you sound like that during the Olympics, you had the East German team and they were
like always seem to be forward, like all steroided up and shit like that.
They're always bigger and just they were transgender.
They were just like the women were just big.
East German.
It's time to take down that wall.
How's that?
Is that better?
Oh, that is better.
Hey, how you doing?
Wow.
My bush buddy friend over here.
We're going to take down that wall, Mr. Gorbachev.
It's actually pretty good.
I got to admit.
I quit doing it.
OK.
Anyway, wow.
We really we really went off into World War Two history.
There's a ton of World War history.
It's fascinating.
It is.
It is fascinating.
And it's amazing how many things could have happened, should have happened.
And this is why I know I know for a fact that time travel doesn't exist.
Because imagine how easy it would be to go back in time with some powerful weapon that
you can go back and just like, but you do.
Yeah.
But would you want to?
Because because it turned out good.
It turned out good.
And World War Two was the big impetus to get the United States.
Maybe it would have turned out better.
That's true.
It pulled us out of the Great Depression.
Pulled us out of the Great Depression.
Maybe it would have been even better.
Maybe it could have been worse.
Well, I mean, you never know what you're going to get in a box of chocolates.
Or you just let it go.
Well, you do know what you're going to get.
If you shoot the right person, you know, you could have shot Fauci back then.
We wouldn't have covid and all those beagles would still be alive.
You know, a lot of people say that they say if you go back, who would be the one if you
kill one person back, it'd be Hitler.
But how do you know?
How do you know there wouldn't have been another guy who was actually more effective general
who would have listened to his generals?
Right.
And now we'd be speaking German.
Yeah.
Yep.
You never know, man.
You never mess with history.
You don't know how it's going to turn out.
You never know.
You never watch The Man in the High Castle?
No, I started to.
It's good.
We got to season and a half.
I need to go back and finish it.
But it's if Germany and Japan won the war.
They won, yeah.
And the U.S. is split into Germany and Japan.
Yes.
And there's a resistance.
Are you talking about the board game?
No.
You're talking about The Man in the High Castle.
Yeah.
I want to go back and watch it.
I think my wife kind of soured on it and we lost interest in it.
But I really wanted to stick with it.
Julie did as well.
Like I said, we got about maybe midway through the second season and she's like, I'm done.
So I never picked it back up.
I want to.
Right.
It's done now.
They have four or five seasons.
So.
All right.
So going back to December 7th and Pearl Harbor.
So there's one other significant fact that really changed the course of the war or or
anyway, the air none there or if they were four aircraft carriers and none of them were
in port.
Correct.
At the time, they were out doing exercises.
And that was huge.
And that was a big best step by Japan.
Right.
They recognized that.
And the other thing.
No, they know they did not know that.
Well, they didn't know it.
But when after the fact, they're like, we had no carriers.
Correct.
There were no carriers there.
Right.
And then the other thing they did, there were three waves that were planned and they they
called off the third wave because they thought enough damage has been done.
They accomplished their mission.
Let's call off the third wave.
You talk about Japan, Japan.
Yeah.
They called a crazy amount of planes that came over.
Just a crazy day.
They actually had like midget submarines.
Yeah.
They had what's called midget submarines that came over.
They had bombers.
Yeah, they had.
It was amazing.
It was a full blown attack.
Anyway, they called off the third wave, which was a huge mistake because they they could
have taken out, like I said earlier, the shipyards and caused more damage.
Like you know, but anyway, anyway, very somber day.
I mean, somber anniversary.
All right.
So moving on.
What are we drinking?
This is one that I bought.
Yeah, this is a pole bourbon.
Now I'm this is a Paul purchase.
I spared no expense because, you know, that's what I that's what I do.
30 bucks in my contribution to this podcast and my love for my fellow podcasters.
This was a seven hundred and seventy seven dollar bottle of yeah.
A bourbon.
It's quite worth that.
Yeah, maybe not.
Old Forster Statesman.
Ninety five proof.
It was I believe a sixty dollar bottle bourbon.
If I remember correctly.
Now, it may not have been that much.
I don't think so.
I don't think it matters.
It's really smooth.
It is a Kentucky straight bourbon whiskey.
We have other we have other bottles in this family.
Right.
But this is the first time we've gotten these.
We have we have I think the 1920 and then we have the old Forster.
Is it right?
Do we have the right?
And I'm not even sure what the differences between all of these bottles are.
But this one's a good one.
It's a good one.
All right.
So what what was the the color case?
So it's it's it's it's a dark dark orange.
Yeah, it's it's dark.
So I mean, I don't know how many years it's been aged.
What's that last word?
Dark orange.
Boomer.
I think it's a spelling mistake.
I think they didn't proofread this.
Yeah, I don't think so either.
All right.
The nose light traces of ethanol.
That's not good.
Along with that up with plenty of maple syrup, rich vanilla is plenty of spice.
A hint of roasted peanut.
I've never seen that one before.
Peanut.
I taste peanut some of these.
Do you?
Yeah.
It's pretty pleasant overall.
The palate much like the nose sweet right from the first sip.
More creamy mouth feel with an empty.
Yeah, that sounds kind of weird.
With an emphasis on cherry syrup, vanilla hint of cocoa powder.
However, the higher right content quickly makes a presence with a sharp peppery spice
developed developing mid palate mid palate mid palate.
I didn't know.
Now there's multiple like thirds.
Phase.
So how about back palate?
Yeah, whatever, dude.
I'm never going to get there.
All right.
The finish is.
Yeah.
Wow.
In closing.
Yeah, let's just go with closing.
Pleasant, easy drinking, predominantly sweet profile, a great entry point into the old
Forster lineup.
So anyway, I'm a fan.
I'm a fan.
I think it's good.
Anything to add there, gentlemen?
Oh my God.
It's such a mouthful.
I think there's some lingering oak.
It's it.
It's easy to drink.
It doesn't kill you.
No, it doesn't.
There's a lot of bourbons.
You're kind of like you got to let it breathe a little bit.
This one we poured right from the bottle straight into the glass and it was sweet.
It could have been the gum in my mouth.
I tried to spit it out because it was and I tried to douse it down with a little beer.
But even now, the gum should be gone.
It's going down so smooth.
I took a big, big poll when I first.
This is the second one I did.
I had to I had to load it back up a little bit.
I tell you what, it's definitely not the best we've had.
I would say if I were to pick one to ten, right, with I don't know what one of our tens
are, maybe rare breed, rare breed nose.
It's so hard.
Yeah, some of those.
I know it really is.
You almost have to do them next to each other, clear the palate, do the other one.
You have to do like a blind test.
Yeah, almost.
But I would put this as a six and a half.
Well, I think we ought to have a different category.
I think this this one's what they call safe.
Safe.
I don't like putting a number next to it because, you know, as far as being able to drink it
and enjoy it, it's a it's a it's an eight, nine as far as comparing it with some of the
flavors and the pop and the heat.
And, you know, I don't think just putting a six and a half, I don't think one.
I think it's unfair.
Yeah, it's not doing it any justice.
Well, it is only ninety five proof.
Right.
So it's not going to have the richness, the depth.
Right.
It's going to have more than your 80 proofs.
Yes.
So it's in between the 80s.
You know what?
That's a good point.
I would say it's perfect flavor wise, perfectly in between 80 and 110.
And it totally matches where it is at ninety five.
Considering that we drink this up and with a cube.
I mean, I wouldn't feel comfortable wasting this with a mixer.
Oh, no, this is not a mixer.
Yeah, I agree.
I agree with that.
We had last week, I can't remember what they were.
We were like, yeah, this is a mixer.
I know one was on Saturday when we went off the rails.
Oh, that was what was it?
Well, we did the nine banded.
That was good.
That was the other one we tried.
Was there another one we tried?
I wasn't there.
I think we tried a lot of them, but I know the nine banded.
Now you came back with the rumble.
Oh, that's right.
A hundred.
Yeah, you can't even fucking remember.
That's why I came back with one hundred thirty nine.
Well, you're the one who just like shot it.
You're like, no, then you turn speechless.
I had you went, I had to.
I had half of a glass left and the only way I could put it down is if I filled up the
entire glass with water.
Wow.
She was kind of like, I'll dump that out.
The potent one, right?
One hundred and forty.
Yeah, that'll do it.
Yeah, that's pretty.
I'll put you down in sets that down.
It's like, you don't have Friday or Saturday.
Friday, Friday, Friday, I don't think Saturday we were hanging out.
OK, so it was your one stuff going.
Yeah, there we go.
Yeah.
Well, you poured a heavy pour to us.
So you pour those like, does he remember what this stuff was?
I don't think you did.
I did.
First draw off of you're like, oh, my God.
Yeah, I think that's why I was.
Yeah.
Friday was when I walked home, right?
Yeah.
So that's when I saw all the fireworks shows.
All those fireworks, fireworks everywhere.
Are you sure?
I think I was the only one seeing them.
But it was.
Yeah, did you watch it with your pygmy friends?
Yeah, it was.
I did not get lost on my walk home.
You didn't end up all muddy.
I didn't.
You didn't walk in and she was like, what the hell?
Well, he's got mud.
He's got this practice now.
Yeah, I got this down.
He's got he's he puts he ties these little little strings on the post.
I just took a street signs.
Oh, well, that's nifty.
I think I think we're all just bombed.
I was so bombed.
That was my 50th and I know I was think we all were.
Bombed is almost an understatement.
I don't know how you what is I was nuked.
Yeah.
I mean, it was bad.
Well, we know Jeff was he wasn't even looking at the camera.
He was looking through the camera.
I couldn't focus on it.
It was in a different dimension, Dad.
It was so bad on multiple levels.
I do remember that there was a terrible band at the bar.
We were at a bar.
Yeah, we went to the bar up the street, the Revelle.
So the well, whatever it's called.
It's gone through so many.
So it started off as Coach Joe's.
I think it's Revelle.
Revelle.
That's Revelle now.
Revelle.
And it wasn't it Revelle at one time?
Or was Clovers, Grovers or something like Grovers?
Oh, it was Grovers.
That's right.
Yeah, it's been like four or five different things.
I don't understand why it can't seem to.
Well, it's been the longest the Revelle.
Well, because it's a bar and that's pretty typical for them to change management.
Well, I always think that, you know, these bars have they have you got to have deep pockets
to run bars.
So you know, you got to be able to withstand the downtime.
And if you hit a low, you got to be able to fill that gap.
Bars can be lucrative.
You know, I don't know how much their rent is, but it's a prime real estate they have.
That is pretty rich.
Yeah.
But maybe, you know, down by Legacy Hall, right?
Legacy Hall, Legacy East, Legacy West.
I mean, those places are just killing it.
And it's probably and their rent is probably double, triple.
Well, I think it's ridiculous.
Well, it is ridiculous.
And I just wonder if it's it's the whole uppity up thing right now.
Look at the star, all the restaurants around the star.
Same thing.
Uppity up stuff.
You want to be seen in these places.
It's not about going there and enjoying, you know, drinks and enjoying, you know, friends
and stuff.
It's about being seen.
Correct.
And then taking Instagram.
I don't know.
Look at me.
Correct.
And so maybe with so Revelle, Revel doesn't have that, doesn't have that, you know, be
seen there.
And so and so people don't come.
I mean, I think I think the I think people that go like the live music.
Correct.
They like music and they're there.
Well, I think there's a there's a few when I when I go there, there there's always a
few crack heads in there.
I don't mean to say crack heads.
That's not what I would say.
Crackpot heads.
I don't even say like like drug head.
I'm telling you, dudes that are like, right.
You know, they go in there and they try hitting on the women.
I mean, oh, man.
You're not going to find those riffraff, right?
You're not going to find riffraff in Legacy Hall or in Legacy East or West or any of those
high end bars, right?
Because they want cheap drinks.
Right.
You know, it's like you're going to scare away big game by poaching the the the what
is the phrase?
Scare away big game by shooting at rabbits, you know?
And that's kind of what those guys do.
And they come in and it makes women feel uncomfortable.
Some of the regulars there.
Yeah, they're pretty shady.
You know, I don't it's been a long time since I've been there.
Probably a year.
Well, really?
Yeah.
So many changes when they do that, they do a little renovation every single time.
And I got a man there.
There was a time where the sound studio was upstairs and overlooked it, which is really
cool.
I liked working at that time.
I mean, I ran some out there several times sound for the live bands.
And then I like to when they had the booth up when you come right into the doors, right
to your right.
And it looked right at the stage.
That was cool.
You know, when they had that big sound board.
Right.
You know, that's good.
Were you able to go up there?
Right at the end of it?
They weren't able to.
Man, I tell you, that was very exciting.
Very exciting to run sound for a big band.
OK, so it went up little stairs and then.
Hit the back.
The one that was right on the there was a booth that was downstairs and you had to step
up just, you know, two steps and then you're into this booth and they have all the gear
amps and stuff.
Immediately to the right and to the right of the stage.
Yeah.
I remember what you're talking about.
And that one was kind of cool.
The stage.
They tear all that out?
Well, they tore out the booth and they tore out a bunch of stuff.
They had so much audio gear in there.
The stage was like three feet tall and they had huge subs in there.
And the place was just.
How would they take all that out?
Well, you know, probably to pay the liquor bill.
Yeah, maybe.
Maybe.
You know, it's not a bad place.
It's just it's just kind of never seeming to like take off.
I think that anyway, they maybe they use it to launder money.
Maybe they use it.
I think a lot of places do that too.
You know, they use it as a tax write off because they know they're going to lose.
I don't you know, I don't know.
But I do know that when whenever they have a majority of the owners, let's say there's
a group of five guys and let's say three of the guys drop out and you get three new ones,
they're kind of like, all right, well, you know, we're a majority.
So let's go ahead and change the name of the club.
We want to change the name of it.
So I think that's perhaps why they they do that a lot, because it's it's never really
only one person that opens up these clubs, these types of clubs.
It's got to be you got to have really deep pockets.
So I remember it wasn't revel.
It was the ownership before that.
I had a right.
Yeah, I think so.
And then I had I had a friend who who was coaching a basketball team and he was kind
of there a lot and got to know them.
And he was trying to get him to sponsor the basketball team.
They walk in.
No, right.
Really?
It was what was this for a kids league?
Yeah, no, it was a it was like a YMCA basketball team or something like that.
And and he said, yeah, you know, all seems a little uncouth.
No, he goes, I'll sponsor you guys.
So we wrote him a thousand dollar check and it bounced.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
That tells you how these how well these bars do or at least that bar.
That's why they're not around.
I know.
Changed hands.
Exactly.
So well, who knows?
I mean, there was a there was a bar called Down Under.
Oh, yeah.
No, that was not that really popular.
Yeah, there was the owners there.
Same thing.
I mean, there was a shadiness going on.
There was, man.
There was a one of my business partners was doing the entertainment out there.
And we had we had merged about that time.
And we had a bunch of gear in there set up for the karaoke shows and DJ shows.
And the guy calls us up and he's like, hey, we can't we can't do karaoke this week.
We're going to be closed.
And or tonight.
And he was like, why?
And he was like, because we need our liquor order.
We don't have money for it.
How much do you need?
And he says, we need like two grand, two grand to do what?
To buy liquor, buy the liquor.
Oh, so they ran out of liquor.
So they well, they ran out of whatever they they needed to.
Maybe maybe it was to pay their bill.
They have a two thousand dollar bill and they were going to bring any more until they paid
that bill.
Right.
Maybe that's what it was.
But regardless, my partner funded it, funded it.
So he funded it and guess what?
He got paid right away.
OK, he got paid right away.
Something else popped up.
Hey, man, do you have any?
He funded it again, again.
He got paid within a week or two.
It got up to like fifty thousand dollars.
What?
How stupid?
Come on.
He got up to fifty thousand dollars and he the owner, the one one of the owners that
was doing the negotiating with my partner, quit or bought out.
And then the other four owners were like, yeah, we don't know what you guys are talking
about because he had relations with that one owner and didn't know the other four.
And he was doing a shady deal.
Yeah.
Well, he was he was at the bottom.
It was a scam.
And and when my partner went back to the other owners, it was kind of like, hey, you guys
only fifty thousand dollars.
And they were like, for what?
Because I've been paying the bills.
You know, with X, Y, Z. And they were like, well, he's not an owner here anymore.
And they had no idea to take that up with him.
He was totally screwing this guy over.
Isn't that crazy?
I mean, that's the mentality of some of these bars, though.
What do you what do you do when somebody screws you out of that much money?
There's no contract, nothing written.
What can you do?
I guess you can put a hit out on you do that.
But if there's no contract, nothing written.
You're like Jimmy the fish.
Hey, you don't.
Yeah.
Unless you go and break some legs would be really mad.
Fifty thousand dollars.
I would be like, we need to get something right here for the two grand.
All right.
That's true.
I should put something in writing.
Yeah.
But let's say you really trusted this guy like he was a really good buddy.
Well, I mean, he ran though, and he totally buttered you for he was years turning a lot
of money for years.
He did. He turned a lot of money.
I mean, meaning that he paid for a lot of stuff, but he got paid right back.
I'm saying so he built trust up.
Yes.
And then waited for the pay off.
Maybe he did not purpose.
Maybe I'd still want to break his legs.
Yeah.
That's sad.
Well, it happens in the C's bars.
It's crazy.
Yeah.
All right.
So do we want to move into our our kind of topic?
Well, before we do that.
OK.
So we want to finish this week.
What are we done with?
Well, we're not done.
We can come back to it.
We come back.
Things that happen.
Well, I'm all combodulated, miscombodulated.
I mean, because it's all Paul's fault.
It's because of the Coozie.
He's got a house and, you know, he doesn't know how to take care of shit over there.
His wife calls.
Says, hey, my kitchen's on fire.
Oh, no.
He says, you know, the power's off.
So there's something going on with the power.
So Paul's going over there trying to figure out, you know, he's got a light switch and
lights being that are off.
Yeah.
And then there's the spark and everything turns back on.
So you can't figure it out, which, you know, the people have got.
I mean, dude, look, you got to step up.
You've got to learn how to take care of your shit.
What am I not taking care of?
People just in general.
I mean, not just you, but I mean, there's a lot of people you got to learn how to take
care of your home shit.
Oh, OK.
I hear.
I see what you're leading into here.
Yeah.
So I mean, you got me.
You got to figure.
I mean, it's not rocket science.
I mean, they've got these fucking Cheech and Chong coming up from the south building homes
left and right, and they're coming out pretty good.
I mean, it's not hard work.
Wow.
You're slapping fucking wooden on the walls of paint and gypsum board and studs and wires
and telephone wires and power.
It's all easy.
Right.
It is so easy to do.
It's easy, but it's a pain in the ass to say.
Well, I mean, like anything else, if you don't know, right, if you're not if you're ignorant,
right, if you're ignorant, it's intimidating.
It's easy to be intimidated by anything that you are ignorant of.
You have no idea how hard it is.
You have no idea how easy it is.
And I agree with you a thousand percent.
Yeah.
But where you're going is as a homeowner, there's a lot of shit you need to be aware of.
And there's a lot of there's a lot of shit that you you should be able to fix.
Yeah, you should be able to fix.
And you know, like a dude's like us, like you got to be prepared.
I'll give you a little snapshot.
This year, the freeze of two thousand twenty one in the Texas region, the great ten thousand
year freeze.
If you didn't have if you had a burst pipe, which thousands of people did thousands, tens
of thousands, hundreds of thousands to make sure that you had your your water stick out
there to turn off the freaking water.
Everyone needs one of those.
I have yours.
You need to take it with you.
Well, it's more than that.
A, you got to know that you can turn off your water.
Well, I'll tell you, B, you got to know where it is and C, you got to have the tool to do
it.
You know, there's two tools you have to have.
Yeah, you got to have the city locks the damn thing.
Well, that's true, too.
It doesn't make sense to me.
Well, you know, they don't want people.
Mine's not locked.
I just tear the cover.
No, if something goes wrong in your house, you're like, OK, there's the what I can't
get to it because it's a very rudimentary.
It's basically a little.
You know that we know that.
Why is mine not locked?
Ninety percent.
Well, people don't know that.
Why is mine not locked then?
Should they all be locked?
Well, I mean, well, I mean, it's to keep honest people honest, so to speak, you know, because
I can go up there and turn your water off, except for yours.
Yours.
You can turn it.
You have the mighty power of Thor to turn off your water.
You know what the key did.
I had the tool.
Did you have the key?
The big lock.
Of course.
Paul called.
I don't know who that maybe even Shelley.
I don't know.
But what it was on the other end of the line.
It was frantic.
Paul is upstairs and he's in the kids bathroom and he's like, you know what?
The showers, the showers leaking, you know, the little cartridge in there.
And so he's like, you pull it out, turn the water on.
He takes out the cartridge.
There is a half inch to three quarter inch.
Unbelievable.
It's just a bore as a whole.
It was it was it's filling up the bathroom.
Very impressive.
The bathtub is not keep maintaining the drain.
It's not even draining as fast as it would.
So now he's going to go run and get five gallon buckets.
And I'm not sure if he was running up and down the stairs with those five gallon buckets.
I don't remember.
Were you dumping it in the toilet?
I think so.
Yeah, I think so.
So you're scooping.
You're scooping.
And oh, I was I was treading water.
And you're thinking there's no end to this.
There's no end to that.
It's not going to stop.
No, until something good.
So you try putting the cartridge back in.
I did.
And that just blasted me in the face.
And I was like, OK, second dumb idea.
So he calls me in.
And of course, I drop it.
I'm doing a head over there as fast as I can.
I know exactly what to do.
And I go straight there and I have the right tool to do it.
I'm in there.
And his water shut off valve was like super tight.
It eroded.
It was it had never.
It's like the building got built.
I was going to say it had never been turned off.
That is the truth.
That's the truth.
It had never been turned off.
And now, by the way, it's easy.
Oh, well, I loosened it.
You're welcome.
You did loosen it.
It's all lubed.
You're welcome.
You lubed it for me.
Oh, I'm telling you.
I had I went back.
That was back then when I was doing full blown construction.
And so I had a variety of tools available to me.
And so I went in there with the regular old wrench and was like, this shit ain't working.
And I was kind of like, I hear Paul.
He's he's freaking out.
I'm in the tub.
So I go back and I get an unnatural sized pair of pliers.
Like these guys are like precious 30 inches long.
You know, something that's going to be able to get some torsion.
Oh, man.
It got to a certain point where I felt something clicking like like not a normal one.
And I was like, fuck it.
This pipe here is breaking or it's turning off.
And I made that decision and it turned off because, you know, what's I mean, how else
are you going to do this?
I'd much rather have water spouting out of the street than in my house.
Exactly.
Yeah.
And so it turned off and I was kind of like, thank the gods.
And then I went back inside, you know, me, I'm fucking cocky, making fun of you.
You don't know how to take it and stuff over here.
What's wrong with you?
What are you doing over there with that five gallon bucket?
I've experienced that, Sean.
Sitting on the floor, you know, leaning against the tub.
Were you weeping?
Dredged?
Oh, it was red faced.
It was seriously the stupidest thing I've ever done so far.
Right.
And I've done some pretty stupid.
So when you pulled that o-ring off, did that thing shoot out of the wall?
Yeah, they say that.
I was like, really hurt you.
I was like, what the hell is happening?
What the hell is happening?
And I was like, oh, my God, it's filling up the tub really quickly.
It's up.
Yeah.
Turn off the water.
I think she said that.
Well, turn off the water.
I was like, I don't know.
It was very sombering lot.
So let me put it this way.
That was I don't know.
God knows how many years ago.
I still have not gotten back to zero on man points.
I think I lost a quarter of a million man points.
Just right then.
For not knowing how to turn off the water, having to call a friend to do it, especially
Sean, and for freaking taking out the thing without turning off the water.
Right.
So yeah, it was an ego bruise, man.
I did make fun of you.
Oh, ruthlessly.
Even today.
Still.
Ruthlessly.
You're still doing it.
Was it 10 years ago?
Yeah, that was a long time ago.
It was a long time ago.
I stopped.
I haven't done it in a while.
Quite some time.
I went from.
So what I was changing, it didn't leak.
It was a cartridge that when you don't use that tub very often.
I just freaking changed the ones up here.
They're a pain in the ass.
It's a pain in the ass.
And I have the tool for it now.
That was the tool I had.
But anyway, so if you don't use it for a long time, sediment just piles up in there and
I guess it didn't coagulate, but it.
It blocks.
It becomes like cement.
It bonds.
Thank you.
It bonds.
And then so the cartridge quit working.
So you got to even though you and you're like, what the hell?
Nobody even uses this.
It's a terrible design.
Right.
You're like, no one even uses this sink or this shower or the tub.
Why would why would it even be clogged?
Well, that's why.
Sediments in there.
It's been in there for a while and it bonds.
And then yeah, and then you're screwed.
Yeah, I just replaced the two up here because both my boys are at school and they don't
use it very often and I don't come up here and turn it on.
I've since said the frickin reminder on my phone every month, go up and turn the showers
on showers on for two minutes and be done.
You're absolutely right.
So there's there's also some some valve grease or some O-ring grease that you should put
on there to lube it up.
I did.
Works really good.
Oh, nice.
But anyway, I've replaced one of them.
An excessive amount.
I've replaced this one before, so I was able to replace this one fairly.
The one in the other bedroom bathroom had never been replaced.
Right.
And it was so corroded in there.
I couldn't get it out.
Dude, he had to destroy the cartridge to get it out.
Fuckin thing like drill it out.
Yes, it was.
He took it out piece by piece.
I came over here and because I mean, and I couldn't do anything.
I was kind of like, yeah, you're fucked.
Yeah.
See you later.
Hey, can I have some bourbon?
Yeah, there's no way.
So what I did is I just chipped and chipped it, chipped it, chipped it like metal.
My metal.
You're breaking the thing.
I had a pair of needle nose and was just twisting it.
The plastic?
Yeah, there's the metal cartridge and it's surrounded by the plastic.
It's encased in plastic.
Right.
So you can basically just tear this thing apart.
What happened is I pulled it and it took me a long time.
I was getting pissed.
So I was yanking it really hard and the metal part came out, but the plastic ring was still
in there.
It disintegrated.
No, it's completely adhered to the pipe.
It was bonded to the pipe.
I'm just like, I can't pull this out.
I just slowly chipped, chipped, chipped, chipped it out.
What a nightmare.
I was so pissed.
And here's the problem.
You're thinking, it should take me 10 minutes to pull this thing out.
Five hours later, I'm still doing it.
That's the thing.
And the whole time you're carving it out, you're like going, I shouldn't have to do
this.
I think we went to the store earlier that day.
I shouldn't have to do this.
We did.
And part of me was like, do I want to be there for him to do this?
And my back of my mind was thinking, I don't think this is going to go well.
Because they don't use it very often.
And I was kind of like, well, he needs to learn too.
If I go over there and do it, he's not going to learn.
Well, no, I've done them before.
It's just this one was so cemented.
This one was so cemented.
Yeah, it was bad.
And you got to have that tool.
That tool is critical.
We did.
We ended up getting the tool.
It's like a $25 tool.
It's not cheap.
I only think the tool would have helped on this.
Maybe it was $15.
I only think the tool would have helped.
It was so corroded in there.
Like I said, I had to chip that damn thing out.
When I did mine, I was so proud of myself.
Like I said, ignorance and intimidation.
You're like, shit, man, I don't know how to do this.
I'm going to call a plumber.
Bam, $300.
It doesn't matter what it is.
$300.
So I was so proud of myself for going onto YouTube.
Thank God for YouTube.
I mean, actually, there isn't a homeowner on the planet that has a reason other than
somebody who just can't physically do stuff.
But you have no excuse anymore.
Like YouTube, you can find YouTube for everything.
Correct.
But they don't show every scenario.
They don't.
But there's multiple videos of each scenario.
So you usually can find one that gets you where you need to be.
Well, for this one in here, the one that was a pain in the ass to get out.
And when you pull this, there's a cotter pin that holds the thing.
And if you don't do that and you turn the water on, it'll shoot out like a freaking
bullet.
OK.
So the cotter pin has to go back in there.
I was able to get the cotter pin out of the one I was pulling out.
But I think what this is the one when they originally built a house.
I think they put all of this on there and then they did the tile because there was no
way for my fingers to get because the pipe was so I couldn't get in there to get the
pot.
So I had to cut the tile tile to get to get the whole big enough.
That's always pisses you off.
And it was just like I could see me doing this and chipping it and a big old crack opens
and a big old.
Then you got to retile the whole damn bathroom.
So anyway, there's got to be a better way.
And reroof the house.
There's got to be a better way.
And you know what?
There's always a better way.
I just these cartridges, these these bone cartridges suck.
I bitched in Moan.
I was like, this is the worst design.
It's like track housing.
It's just, you know, you get the biggest bang for your buck.
You know, I find that I mean, for convenience, it's always great to get the single knob.
Twist, pull it up and you can dial in your temperatures.
Those are the easiest and least expensive.
But I find that the most resilient ones are the ones that have the hot and cold valves.
You know, that's interesting.
You say that because yeah, how you usually know when the cartridge is bad, you don't
get hot water.
You get cold water clogs that side up.
Correct.
You get hot water, but not hot water.
And you're like, oh, what the hell's wrong with this?
Right.
And then, yeah, my water heater out.
I didn't know that.
Right.
Yeah, that's what happened.
Every situation I've had like that is the hot water goes out.
Yeah.
When you turn it on, it's good flow.
But when you turn over the warm, the water starts it's not reducing.
Yeah.
There's barely any cold water coming out.
And you're just like, yeah.
All right.
So you know, it's coming.
So along the lines of all of this, I want to talk about like being a homeowner and,
you know, not only the ignorance and intimidation part, but in the YouTube and get familiar
with the things that you can fix and the things that you can't.
But I want to talk about tools that are essential for every homeowner.
Hammer.
A hammer, a screwdriver.
Yeah.
A Phillips screwdriver.
I mean, outside of the obvious stuff, right?
Wrenches and socket set.
I mean, but it's not obvious.
Maybe it isn't.
OK.
They sell a lot of variety packs in all the stores.
I mean, frankly, you can go to like I'll just say Home Depot and, you know, the Hus.
I mean, I like the I like Milwaukee tools.
Right.
I buy everything Milwaukee.
Those are those are high end.
Right.
I mean, high end for Home Depot.
Yeah.
Well, you know, for construction.
Yeah.
There's people that use them a lot.
You know, there's people who could say, oh, well, I don't like using that.
Well, whatever.
There's there's everyone has their friend like DeWalt.
DeWalt.
And you're talking about power.
Yeah, there's a power tool.
Power tool.
But what I was going with that was that they make very economical cost effective tools.
Husky is one of them.
Right.
You know, Husky, you can buy a variety pack that comes with an assortment of ratchets,
L bracket L Allen wrenches.
Allen wrenches.
That's what I'm going to say.
In a different, you know, tips for the screwdrivers, you know, the X hex common Phillips, a variety
of Phillips, which have the smalls and the number twos all the way up to the number or
whatever they are.
Right.
And you know, wrenches are huge.
You know, you got to have a variety of the wrenches, crested wrenches, which are the
you know, you can adjust how wide it goes with the little dial you do.
And if you want electrical, you got to have pliers.
You got to have side cutters.
I'll tell you what one that I use a lot that I always lose is the needle nose.
Those always come in handy for different functions.
And I have one I need at least I have a little.
A little one and a big one.
I need a medium sized one.
I need a needle nose.
Yeah.
Needle nose.
I need at least one more because I've got one and then if someone uses it and doesn't
put it back, it's gone for a month.
I don't you know, I don't I mean, I you know, I told you I like Milwaukee tools, but I'll
tell you what you always I it's always important just to go and buy a variety pack just to
spend like 30 bucks and get a variety pack.
Keep it in the house for everybody else to use, right, because otherwise they're going
to go to my tools and use them.
So so I'm behind on the latest innovative tools, right?
I know because, you know, I have the old old fashioned ratchet set, but I know nowadays
they have like these fancy ones that have a head with pins in it.
Oh, yeah.
And the just because like as seen on TV type thing.
Yeah, it's like a universal, universal head that can adjust those.
Those I've used those.
Those are fantastic.
But they break.
They do break.
They do.
And they're they're they're fantastic for a certain amount of, you know, times, but
they are great because one size fits all right.
I mean, basically.
And you can.
Yeah.
If you have to give you a lot of torque on those, does that start bending those little
yeah, the problem kind of twist things out of those little pins in there, whatever they're
stuck on the backside, they come loose.
They start to see that.
But you know what, there's also there's also other ones that are they're not pins, but
they also have like an adjustable I mean, I'm not sure what they are because I use my
ratchet set, so I haven't paid much attention.
But when I've been at Home Depot, I'm like, what are those?
They're they're kind of like they're used for ratchet for ratcheting, but they've got
like a weird design on the head.
You guys know what I'm talking about?
And they're well, it's a wrench that has a like a ring ratchet.
Yes.
You don't have to have a ratchet.
It's you just kind of put the the wrench on there and the the ring around the nut will
actually spin and you think.
OK, so it's just a different form.
It's like a wrench.
It's a replacement on the right.
The magic wrench magic wrench tool shelf adjusting.
Oh, no, that's not it.
But that's OK.
It looks almost like that.
OK, so it's basically a replacement for the ratchet set.
Yeah.
And you know what?
I've never owned any of those.
Again, those are those are tools that you may not want to use in the field because under
a certain amount of stress, torque, they're just not reliable.
OK.
You know, and that's really the only thing if you could like the tool because it's a
move.
There's got to get movable pieces.
Right.
So any time you got movable pieces, you're putting the tool at risk.
But out to a but for a house to a wrench.
But as for a house tool, it's probably fine.
I agree.
And extremely effective.
You know, I agree.
But you know, they're have to have you have to have at least in Texas, you have to have
in your house a water tool and you need to find out how to turn that shit off and on
to learn how to go.
Once you go outside, you find out where your water is at that lid that requires a special
key that, you know, they sell it's at Home Depot.
But you have to have that special key looks like a fucked up number seven and you shove
it down in there and you twist it.
And the first thing I do at every house I've ever been in is I break it.
I go to I go to my the lid.
Look, I'm telling you.
Yeah, because in emergencies, you need to get to it quickly.
You get to it.
I mean, I don't know why.
I don't know why they have a lock on it.
I don't I don't understand why they lock it.
But in an emergency, because that that that.
I guess you could tinker with the meter.
That's why.
Well, why?
It's fucking water.
Yeah, but that's how they measure how much water you use.
So if you tinker with it and it doesn't record it correctly, then I'm sorry, but you'll water.
But I'm sorry.
But if my pipe breaks, I want to turn my water off.
I don't want to spend 10 minutes trying to get to the damn thing.
I think I have a valve.
There was my flower bed.
There was the water to the house as well.
There is a really I do.
You know, I've always seen that little thing with like a little tea that comes up and you
can turn it.
No, it's actually so it's just a bin underneath the flower bed.
And you know, you rip off that cover and it's got a regular a regular screw.
OK, so there's just a so there's an in between.
Yeah.
I wonder if I wonder if I have that most most people do not.
You know, if I don't add on that an extra, I paid fifteen thousand dollars.
It's not it's never been used.
It's not typical.
I tried to use it and it didn't turn.
So I just so I I turned it off at the street.
Now, sometimes sometimes if you have a if you run the water from the street to your
flower bed and then you branch off from that main line and you go to your sprinklers.
Right.
Then sometimes they have a shut off.
So why not is the thing because it's closer.
They probably put some sort of gate valve there, which is a little bit easier to use.
And then to go on all the way to the street and control it.
So yeah, I don't know.
That's probably what is do you have your sprinkler right there?
No, I think the sprinkler, the main sprinkler valve is down by the water meter.
Wow.
On the street.
So yeah, so is mine.
That's weird.
Yeah, but I do too.
But I'm trying to figure out why they have that extra shut off to the house is right
up next to the house in the flower bed.
Well, I did some work on it.
I've got some I think they may be access tubes you see coming up and they have like the black
rubber top on it.
Yeah.
And I've also got some big ones in the flower bed as well.
What are those ones with the black thing on there?
Well, the if you like access to the plumbing.
Yeah.
So it's a PVC pipe with a black rubber tube.
That is where you put your your weed.
No, the auger.
Yeah, it's where you're not the auger.
It's a when you stick the thing in there to get rid of your Mr. T. Kung Fu fist.
No, to get rid of your clogs.
It's an auger.
Oh, but they call something else.
Plunger.
They call it a router.
There's a word for that.
Magic Johnson.
Poop Destroyer.
A Poop Destroyer.
Thank you.
Anal Penetrator.
No, seriously.
What's it?
It's a Roto-Rooter.
Roto-Rooter.
Thank you.
That's a brand.
You fuck ass.
I know.
But it's an auger.
But that's what everybody calls it.
Roto-Rooter.
That's our name.
Oh no, we call it an auger.
OK, well.
Only you call it a Roto-Rooter.
Dudes like us call it a Roto-Rooter.
Call it an auger.
Wow.
Roto-Rooter is the name of a company.
Auger.
Anyway.
Actually, it says right there, Roto-Rooter.
Right.
So when you have your lava shits and it clogs up your tubes.
Well, that's liquid, so it doesn't matter.
Well, no, it coagulates and cements, and then you use a Roto-Rooter.
Jesus.
OK, so I'm a little taken back because that's not, I don't think that's right.
I'm not sure if that's right.
Because usually on cleanouts, they have a cap that you can screw on, and it's not a rubber
cap.
It's a rubber cap with a metal band that you.
Yep, with an adjustable ring.
Yeah.
When you take that off, it's in the front house, take it off, and that allows the plumbers
to.
Yeah, well, you should have.
To Roto-Rooter.
But you should have what they.
To auger it.
Jackass.
They don't say auger.
Double one.
You need one that goes to the house, and you need one that goes to the street.
So it should be.
This one goes to the street.
It does.
Yeah, it goes.
It's in the fly.
Yes, it's from the house.
Then you have this like T that goes up so you can access to the street, but you could
also go back to the house, I imagine, as well.
Just as easy.
No, well, no, it's a separate hole.
I think I've got to.
It's a separate hole because.
You have two holes.
They have two holes.
They sweep.
It's like.
Thanks for asking.
It's a wide 90.
So it's a wide sweeping 90 so that the auger can go down there.
Damn, you just pulled that back like a champ.
I did.
I think Sean feels threatened.
I'm a stud.
No, I'm fine.
Where's yours at?
I'm a real man.
Oh, that's right.
You didn't do dishes.
OK, he's got pictures of an auger and it's like what is it's that's making fence posts.
No, you hold plumbing auger plumbing auger or nobody calls it an auger when they talk
about rotor rooting.
Well, people that have vocabulary.
You call everything Kleenex.
What?
Instead of tissue.
Oh, I see where you're going.
Look at this.
There's a drain commercial auger.
It's a toilet auger.
Snake.
That's the other thing they call it.
That's a power spin.
No, they call it a sewer snake.
That's the other word.
This one's a Dranex Pro Steel.
Is it power?
Some of them are.
Yeah, some of them are.
You got to be careful of those two.
Yeah, when you have like super shit, so it's like super clogged.
Oh, God.
But I tell you what, we at filtered coffee shop downtown McKinney, we that was built
in a historical building.
And I remember when we were putting that thing together, I had to negotiate with the McKinney
plumbing department in the historical district, folks, because the original beams in the building,
I was not allowed to penetrate.
And I was like, I got to get my plumbing from point A to point B. I got to go through that
fucking concrete beam.
And they're like, all right, all right.
But if you go through it, it needs to be dead center.
And I'm like, were they measuring?
They were douchebags.
They didn't break up.
But it was the whole historical thing.
Dude, come on.
I mean, why?
I hear you.
There's lies and then there's reality.
But it's under the ground.
No one's going to see it.
No, it's not.
It's not a matter of that.
They were insinuating it was going to damage the integrity of the beam, which holds up
the fucking building, which is bullshit because whatever, moving on.
So my point for bringing this up is that we had to put the plumbing in the center of the
beam, which jacked up everything.
That means that we had like an eighth of an inch drop every like eight feet.
That's what they call a flat drain.
So it doesn't drain very well.
Well, it drains water overall.
But in a coffee shop, you got lots and lots of coffee grounds.
Shit gets built up.
And we've got to constantly, constantly manicure that thing.
So we do that.
Well, I mean, you got to auger it.
You got to auger it.
Oh, you mean a rotor.
They have they have a cool auger that sprays water, a very high powered jet water.
And it's just a nozzle and it fits on the end of a hose.
And you got a little pressurized generator, what they call a compressor.
And it just basically you shove this thing down there.
It's probably a couple hundred feet.
And it blasts everything in that.
Can you not just drop the drain down there?
I mean, you can, but you're going to have to shitload of drain.
And that's kind of what we were doing for a while is that we would do preventative drain
cleanouts.
And so I would go to the very front drain, I'm telling you, when we laid that pipe out
because we had to travel probably 45, 50 feet, probably maybe a little bit more.
And you imagine worth we're like two, two foot down, something like that.
And all the way to the front at an eighth of an inch every so much feet.
By the time it got down to the front, the pipe was literally like two inches below the
concrete.
I don't you know, that is hardly anything.
There's no concrete.
There's no integrity right there.
So I mean, you could literally probably take a hammer and probably pop that that thing
out and it passed inspection because we're kind of like, what do you want us to do?
Right.
You know, right.
We don't have a lot of options here.
You know, so they were just like, oh, I don't care.
Oh, my God.
Those guys were and so how do you use this water auger and you use it?
What's like every quarter?
Could you have gone under the beams?
No.
Why?
Because the because it's all about the lowest point that you because it has to flow.
Right.
And the lowest point wasn't below the beams because our our sewer line was going to the
neighbors.
So you had to cook to the sewer line.
If you want underneath, you would have been back up.
Yeah.
The sewer line was handed to us from the neighbors line.
So we had to tap into the neighbors line.
It was a given.
So it was set at a certain depth.
So we had to match that depth.
Otherwise, we had to spend thousands of thousands of dollars to run a new line and go like under
ours under the the back wall of the building and under the sidewalk outside into the street
to tap into the sewer line out there.
Well, I I dug a trench while I was out there.
Why don't you use that?
Yes, you did.
What?
I'm kidding.
I enjoyed it.
You know, that was the other thing is that the code enforcement went in there and they
were just like, yeah, you need a trench.
We need a because we knew how far the line needed to go down.
And we knew that you didn't need to go down that far.
But they made us dig down to two feet, 30 inches, actually.
They made us dig down 30 inches all the way.
And in that particular building called the Boyd building in downtown McKinney, this was
a farmers market at one point.
And that particular square, they had livestock.
So it was compacted.
It was extremely dense.
You can imagine.
Very down.
It's like poop.
We spent hours.
We did hours on it.
I mean, it was and it was quite a trench.
It got to the point where I had to I went in and bought a jackhammer with a five inch
blade and with an extended the longest one they made with an extended five inch blade.
And I ended up jackhammering and basically carving out super hard clay.
All right.
Pull it and take it out.
But pull it.
But after we were done, it was amazing.
It was a huge asshole.
I mean, it was a trench.
Yeah, trench.
I mean, I had everyone there because it was kind of like, you know, it was like it was
a family deal.
You know, the family.
I don't remember a lot of people there.
My brother was there.
Did you have I was there.
Did you were there.
Did you have dogs?
That was about it.
What did you have?
Hot dogs for the family like a picnic?
No.
Well, I mean, they had some restaurants next door and he didn't grill anything for us if
you're asking.
No, he makes hundreds for the H.O.A. though.
We had beer in a freezer refrigerator.
Yeah, we had beer.
So I had they were man the whole place was hot all the time.
So I had this walk in cooler.
All right.
So we imagine you the walk in cooler wasn't hooked up to power.
So I just had the the third the cooler and they had cut the hole in the top or anything
like that to put the refrigeration device in there.
I just said to assembled it.
And then we ended up I ended up taking a huge tub cooler and putting a fan in there.
And filled it with ice.
I went down to the Mellow Mushroom a couple of doors down and they let me fill this huge
cooler of ice once a day.
And I'd stick it in that walk in and that fan would run and that thing would get down
to like 50 degrees.
I was before I was there.
It was amazing.
Or after I was there.
I mean, it's amazing and how something like that would work.
And you just shut the door.
Of course, when you're in there, it's pitch black.
You know, you get your phone and you try to provide some light.
That's how iceboxes.
That's how iceboxes back in the day used to work.
You'd buy a big old block ice.
You'd stick it in there.
Right.
That was cool.
It was before electricity.
Right.
You'd have a big old block ice there to keep your food cold.
Now, that project was a lot of fun.
It taught me a lot.
You know, yeah, that was a lot of work.
There was a tremendous amount of work and, you know, we kind of got off the trail of
what you need for the house.
We did.
But let me ask you a question.
When you're thinking about using a plumbing auger or a roto rotor, is that something that,
you know, again, I'm trying to battle the ignorance and, you know, an intimidation factor.
Is that something every homeowner should be able to do themselves?
I don't recommend the homeowner getting an auger and using it.
I would recommend a professional.
And it's for the reason that there's two reasons.
You can damage your pipes and you can get hurt.
I'm not talking about a power one, like one of those hand crank ones.
Well, you can still damage your pipes.
Really?
Yeah.
I mean, if you just do it wrong.
I mean, I don't know.
I mean, you can damage it.
Like, for example, if you shove that thing down a toilet, you're going to mar the hole
inside the toilet.
It'll live black.
Oh, yeah.
Scratch it all up.
Yeah.
It'll mess up the porcelain.
You would never do that.
I did.
Really?
I've done it before and I was kind of like, yeah, live and learn.
You know, so yeah, it's a question.
Totally live and learn.
But they do make one.
In fact, the Mr. Producer has it up on there that a plumber sewer snake accessory.
I recommend that one.
This particular one is designed for toilets only.
And it basically it's about four foot tall.
It's a metal tube and it's kind of like the little J. And it's then it's got the spiral
spring thing that comes down in there that opens up with that big nozzle.
That's a big spring.
Big basic.
Yeah, it's a big ball.
And you stick that and what you do is you pull it out, you pull it, hyper extend it
and then the ball.
Click.
Yeah, there you go.
Hyper extend it.
And then the ball will go all the way to the end of the metal pipe.
And then you shove the metal pipe into the toilet so that you're not going to leave a
mark on the toilet.
And then you shove that spring in there as hard as you can.
That tool right there, you will forget about ever getting a plunger.
Forget it.
You will never ever need a plunger.
And plus that thing will clear out a toilet and in a second.
It's a pretty impressive picture.
It's just like and it's gone.
Whatever's there is no longer there.
But you know, there are some situations where you don't want to force whatever is clogging
it.
Well that's that's why down into that.
So there are two.
The mechanics of that, if you note up on top of that metal arm that feeds the snake, there
is a handle that has a dial.
Now that crank is like a screwdriver.
So if you have something in there you're trying to pull out, you use that to screw past whatever's
in there and then yank it back.
And so that's why that ball is bigger than the rest of it.
So I remember pretty early in my homeowner experience I had a bathroom downstairs, a
toilet downstairs that wouldn't flush.
It would sort of flush.
Gurgle sort of flush.
And so I plunged it and plunged it and nothing, nothing, nothing.
And I'm like, man, I don't understand what's going on here.
And this was back when I wasn't willing to take on anything.
I was didn't have YouTube, all that kind of stuff called a plumber.
So he unhooks it from the base.
He takes off the tank, the top tank.
He takes off the entire toilet.
He walks outside in the front.
He turns it upside down.
He shakes it out and out falls a building block, a child's building block.
One of my kids had flushed it down the toilet and it got lodged.
And so from that point forward, it never flushed right.
So yeah, so he turns it upside down.
That falls out.
He comes back in.
He puts the toilet back down.
He puts the.
So it'll be $300.
$300.
And I was like, fuck, I was like, gotta be able to do that yourself.
Right.
I mean, you can't.
I mean, if you're a little old lady living in a house, I mean, of course not.
Right.
You're on the plumber.
But any any dude like us should be able to to do that, should be able to take the tank
off, should be able to take the whole toilet off.
I'll tell you what, but I will tell you this.
Once you take the toilet off, you're messing with that wax seal.
Yes.
You are messing with that wax seal, so you got to be prepared.
Again, YouTube, those things are nasty.
They are nasty.
But go to YouTube and know what you're dealing with.
A wax seal, a new wax seal is what I've done that.
I've done that.
Well, they make the things now that you don't have to use the wax seal.
That's what I use.
When we placed all the toilets, we didn't use the wax.
They have new contraptions that you put on there that you go.
Well, the wax seals are still recommended over those plastic contraptions.
And I agree.
I use the I use the plastic one as well.
There are some techniques for the plastic ones, but I want I want to go back and talk
about this plastic for the the wax.
First of all, first of all, the wax is nasty simply because it's sticky.
It starts off as a yellow urine.
It looks disgusting.
The color of it just starts nasty.
Yeah, it's just the whole thing is new.
It looks like it looks like shit.
It looks like pee and shit.
Not to mention when you're working on a toilet and the underlying the underlying
picture there.
So there it is.
So the gross wax sometimes when you when you have to put these wax rings down, the toilet
actually sits higher for some reason or lower.
And it requires a thicker one or a double one.
Right.
So you got to know how.
Yeah.
How to.
And there's there's and look, if you don't do this and you've never done it, it becomes
quite tricky.
Right.
But I will share with the people that are listening as dudes like us, because this is
going to be if you don't want to go with the plastic ones and you want to do the wax thing,
I'm going to give you a tip.
OK.
And this is going to be fantastic.
You're going to love this.
It's a hack.
This is a Sean hack.
I'm telling you, man, and there's not a lot of people that know about this.
All right.
Is that you take the wax ring and you put it on there.
You put it on the the hole.
All right.
So you you get a torch.
Most plumbers have a torch.
You get the torch and you.
I don't own a torch.
Well, you know, you're going to have to buy 15 bucks for a little torch or get a lighter
torch.
OK, a little you you lightly blast the top to liquefy it a little bit.
OK, so soften it up, soften it up just a little bit.
And then you take your second wax ring and you stick it on top because we're talking
about how well sometimes you have to do three wax rings simply because of the height.
Yeah.
And that's and that's the process you do it.
That's the way they've done it for forever.
You know, I've never heard of needing more than one wax wing.
Yeah.
Wax, wax, way.
I'm going to let it go.
So but no, it's extremely common, you know, because a lot of times the wax ring on there,
that's when you have like a.
You see, right there is a good example of deep you need to get.
Yeah.
And sometimes that gap in between just isn't enough and it secretes a little bit, just
a little bit too much.
Right.
So when you when you put the wax ring on there, you got to mind you, the first wax ring is
going to have it's going to have a black funnel basically.
And then the second one is just going to be the wax ring.
Right.
So you put a little you melt a little bit, you stack it on there and then you put a stack
and another another one if you need if you need it.
But once you do that, it's it's a perfect sale because sometimes you can do everything
right and for some reason those wax ring when you stack them, for some reason it'll leave
like a little valley in there, a small little valley where it didn't compress right.
And you got a little leak in there.
You didn't do anything wrong.
Right.
You know, you just kind of like, and that's the whole point.
That's why you wax.
Right.
It's moldable.
You press it down in there, pull it out, seats down in there and it seals everything up.
You don't have any and you don't have any leaks.
So let me let me share another thing that a lot of folks don't do.
So after you you figure out how to stack it.
Look, guys, I've had problems with the wax rings and totally frustrated where I wanted
to kill somebody.
Right.
And after I killed them, I went to Home Depot and shared my frustrations with the plumber
there and he was like, all right, well, yours, I usually suggest this to people that are
idiots and can't figure it out.
And it's just a plastic one.
Right.
And it's a tall one.
It's a rubberized piece of material.
It's just like a wax ring, except if it's if it's in the hole, it fits.
It's perfect.
Right.
I mean, it's genius.
I mean, it's tall.
I mean, it works.
I don't understand.
I don't know how long they last.
Right.
I don't know.
But you're almost like, why wouldn't everyone use it all the time?
Because it's very it's much less.
Yes.
A lot easier to work with.
It is.
I ended up having to use two.
You just replaced that one that you had to go where the pipe was really low underneath
your tile.
Right.
Yeah.
The pipe was pretty low.
So I had to I had I had to use a lot of them and it kind of sucked.
But there's a lot.
But here's the bottom line.
If somebody needs to pull a toilet off because they need to replace their toilet or they
need to pull the toilet off to, you know, to find a clog and clear that clog, would
you be in a dude's like us?
Is that that's on the fringe that on the fringe?
Or should all of us be able to do that?
I tell you what, my wife, my wife replaced all the toilets in my house.
OK, so you're saying if you're a dude like us, don't be intimidated.
Do that on your own.
Right.
Make it happen.
The only thing I helped her with was to lift it up and put it on there.
And she did everything else.
Now, I will tell you, in the tank itself, that's a no brainer.
Like the flapper and the and the water, you know, the filler thing.
I don't know what they call it, but it's a little overwhelming when you look at all the
parts you do.
But then after you put it in, you're like, oh, my God, seriously.
Yes.
Like that happy meal price.
That is a no brainer.
Even if you're on the fringe of being intimidated by the wax seal or the plastic replacement.
I want to.
But again, I would encourage you to watch a YouTube video.
I want to share one extra little tip that nobody does.
All right.
So the melting of the wax is one number two is in you're supposed to do it.
And it's code code.
What's that?
You need to silicone, not cock, caulk.
It needs a silicone around the base of around the base.
I never do that.
It's paramount.
And it's two reasons.
Number one, it keeps the toilet from wiggling.
Because it anchors it.
It is a little bit.
It adheres it to whatever it's on.
Yeah, it's a little extra support.
Well, it's a lot of support.
It's actually the main support.
Really?
Yeah.
I mean, you got nuts.
You got bolts that are sticking out of the ground.
I mean, yeah, but those things work loose.
So let me OK.
We go into other kind of types of construction.
You put together a cabinet and when you're when you're screwing a cabinet together, you're
supposed to use glue.
Right.
Because the glue is really really holds the cabinet together.
And when you shoot nails in, those those are just to hold it in place until the glue cures.
And it's the same thing with the toilet.
You know, you got to use that silicone to keep that toilet from moving.
Because if you don't use it and you sit on the toilet, even if it moves a sixteenth of
an inch, just left right, you're breaking that seal on every single time.
But it gets loose, more loose and more loose.
And the next thing you get a problem, especially on an upstairs bathroom.
Yeah, making on the bottom is not as bad as leaking on the top.
Well, these are bad leaks are bad period.
Yeah, leaks are bad.
But if you're on the first floor and you have a leak and you at least if you silicone it,
the water is now contained under the toilet.
So that it'll matter what it will find its way down there.
Sure.
But if it's not silicone.
So let's go show that because there's a lot of people that don't.
They don't know.
I didn't.
I mean, I think I have it.
And I need to on this one up here.
And downstairs, the one Brandon sits on the big man, big man Brandon and the toilets,
the toilets Paul Bunyan sitting on a little loose.
Yeah.
I mean, it is massive.
It's a massive young man goes right up his ass.
Actually.
OK, well, I got a funny story about toilets and toilet sizes is, you know, Tara, my wife
has back problems.
All right.
So she was like, well, I said, well, we have short toilets in our house.
I want to help going out with the builder.
They're like five inches off the floor.
We have to squat like Asian people on their little circles.
Your knees are all up in the air and you're like squatting down your ball sacks, like
hanging over the front of the lid.
Seriously, I didn't.
I really didn't want to visualize that.
I'm sitting on the toilet.
I got to literally grab some toilet paper and I got to put it on the top of the lid
and then just put my junk and just rest it there while I while you know, yeah, right.
Right.
Doesn't everybody?
Yeah, yeah.
That's serious to do.
My wife wants she wants a higher toilet.
So I go to the store and I'm like, you know, fifteen and a half inches, kind of a standard
toilet.
You know, those are the actual those are the short ones.
And I think sixteen, seventeen are talking about all toilets of the same height.
No, they're not.
So as far as height goes from the floor to the top of the seat.
So I got I have the high toilet.
She's got the super high toilet.
I got twenty one inch because I brought a seventeen there and I was happy.
I got her because she I take it out of the box.
She's it's not tall enough.
And I was like, are you fucking want your feet to dangle?
Well, that's what they do now.
She wants to climb up a little step ladder.
I went to several different places and I couldn't find them.
So I ordered it online and they delivered it to the house the very next day with everything
to it.
And I swear to God, what was the height on this?
It's twenty one inches off the floor.
Your feet, her feet don't touch.
My feet don't touch.
My feet do touch, but they're barely touch.
Your legs fall asleep.
So when you when you walk up to the toilet, it is so tall, it's like you're walking up
to a walled urinal.
That is ridiculous.
It's so tall and it's just it is ridiculous.
But you know what?
It's got function for her because when she hurts her back, which is inevitable, it's
going to happen.
She pulls it out three or four times a year.
She can manage to get to the bathroom.
She it's getting up and down.
It's easier to get up and down.
You know, that five inches makes a world of difference.
I bet.
Wow, that's funny, though.
I mean, we could go.
There's a million different home repairs we could talk about.
I mean, we could dedicate a different different podcast.
I will tell you another tip, but maybe we ought to make a podcast full of tips is, you
know, people for showers, for example, your shower will last.
I'm not saying shower, I'm talking about like the tile.
If you were to weekly, make sure you clean your shower with bleach and about every six
months apply tile sealer.
Nobody does it ever, ever.
You know why?
Because it sucks to clean tile.
It just sucks.
But if you were to do that, nobody does it.
Apply the sealer every six months, then you wouldn't have to deal with any of that.
Your tile would last forever.
Right.
Yeah.
I'm just as guilty.
Nobody.
I would literally say less than one percent of the nation does that.
Not even.
A point or one.
Yeah, I don't do that at all.
And you're right.
I mean, because you know, what do we do?
Right.
We let we let stuff build up the different size.
So that's the 15 right there.
You probably have that one, Paul.
That's what you basically just walk into it.
You stand on it over it.
Yeah, seriously, when I was over my kind of hover and crouch, literally drop my dick in
the toilet.
Wow.
It's like up there.
Do we have to say it like that, though?
Well, I understand.
In the toilet.
It's kind of weird.
Well, I don't drop it in the toilet.
Whatever.
Can you imagine like, no, moving?
Yes.
So glad I stopped him.
Anyway, so hammers, you know, the variety sets of wrenches.
How do you feel about power tools?
I mean, power tools kind of gets to another genre of home.
Yeah.
Couture means to include in the tool.
So before we do that.
So let me ask you about hacksaw.
Indispensable.
Or is there a replacement power tool for that?
I don't have a what do you need a hacksaw for?
Well, to cut pipe, to cut whatever, right?
So I have a hacksaw.
What is the power tool equivalent of a hacksaw to where you would never need a hacksaw again?
Well, there's that reciprocating one.
I have a reciprocating saw.
Oh, no, no, you got the flat blade.
Okay, see, I don't own that.
And I've never used one before.
I've used it.
I used it.
That's a new power tool for me.
Well, that power tool.
I call that power tool a fiend tool.
Now it's not a fiend tool.
Fiend is that F E I N is actually a manufacturer in Germany that invented it.
And they they had a market on it.
And those little orange tools were super expensive.
And I remember the guy worked for a bought one.
Yeah, that thing right there.
And and I was like, oh, that's what it's designed for.
It's designed to replace a hacksaw.
So it's a flat blade.
I mean, it goes back and forth.
So it's a flat blade that looks like the bottom of a wine glass, like a thick wine glass.
It's like a two inch hacksaw blade that attaches to this battery powered reciprocating side
and it basically just vibrates.
It just goes back and forth.
Yeah, it goes back really fast.
It doesn't.
It just vibrates.
It's it's it's like a it's like a wonky oval inside there that rotates.
But the very nature is is just going back and forth, probably not even a 16th.
Yeah, it's just real quick.
You know, that's what you own instead of a hacksaw.
Yes.
Yeah.
To cut.
And that's not you.
So you're saying fine.
That's a brand name.
It is a brand name.
So what I call it, I call it Fiend.
But mine's Milwaukee.
No, no, no.
Those are brand names.
What's the name of that tool?
Is it an oscillating saw?
I don't know.
Oscillating tool, oscillating tool, super good oscillating tool.
That's not a typical power tool.
And we can pick this up in the second.
It needs to be.
I agree.
I think every house should have that.
I agree.
So I think we should pick this up because I want to know what because I have, you know,
I mean, well, let's table it.
But because there are, in my opinion, there is a set of power tools that everyone should
own.
Well, this one has never been in my.
Technically, I don't miss.
We have five more minutes.
No, the music's going.
The music's going.
Oh, it's a 32.
Let's table it.
So we'll be ready in the second podcast to talk about the critical, indispensable power
tool that you have to have in your garage.
I want to talk about Henry Alfred Kissinger.
Let's do that, too.
We can do that, too.
We can do all the above.
I got some fantastic stuff to talk about him and the thing that he said that is completely
relevant today.
Really amazing.
You'd be amazed how history is important nowadays.
We'll come back to the second half.
I'm like us.
I'm Jeff.
I'm Sean.
We'll be right back in the second half.