You got a great deal on it though.
On what?
I don't remember.
On the bourbon we're about to sample and talk about?
Well we consummated our sample.
I was going to say you guys just shot yours.
Yeah, we shot it.
Well where's the rest of it?
Mr. Producer has it.
Producer has it.
Alright well when we get a chance reach over there and get that bad boy.
You know I guess we need to give it a little more respect because it is over 90 proof.
Barely.
It's 93 proof.
Okay, that's respectable.
And I agree with those tasting notes.
It's spicy, dry, oaky.
Bulk cinnamon dry oaky is spicy.
And it's gluten free.
Is it really?
It is.
What the hell.
And the food pairing is with beef lamb root vegetables.
What is a root vegetable?
Like carrots.
And a potato?
Potato.
Yes.
Anything that would be in the ground.
A root vegetable.
But you know what?
We were, so we recently got hooked on a new drink called a jack apple, a jack apple mule.
I didn't like it.
Oh god I liked it.
So it's jack apple.
Bourbon.
Is it bourbon or whiskey?
Probably.
Tennessee whiskey.
Alright so Tennessee whiskey, jack apple, and it's ginger beer.
And it's a Moscow mule yeah.
And then a bunch of lime.
Right.
Alright so we called it jack apple mule.
So then, so ginger beer.
And I was like this is going to be a totally ignorant thing.
I've got some doubts.
You can ask me all you want, but when I went to go buy ginger beer I exhausted myself looking
for beer, ginger beer in the beer section.
It's not.
I had no idea it was like a root beer.
Like a non-alcoholic.
I have the alcoholic kind downstairs.
Oh so there is an alcoholic ginger beer.
Crabbies.
Okay well I guess I feel better because I eventually went into the soda aisle to like
you know.
Yeah they have ginger beer there.
To get regular soda and I found ginger beer and I was like holy shit I had no idea it
was non-alcoholic.
Yeah you buy the alcoholic kind when you're making the mules and stuff like that.
We went with, I mean that's all I found.
That's the pee version.
Well because first off Kroger didn't have ginger beer.
And I know this because I went through every single beer.
Well look you could look, I don't know if Kroger will have it in the beer aisle but
it's Crabbies.
Crabbies, ginger ale or ginger beer.
And it's got, it's I don't know how much percent of it.
The one I got was, well I mean there's no beer other than where they sell the beer in
Kroger.
So they didn't have ginger beer there.
Yeah they're green bottles.
I'll show it to you when we get downstairs.
Okay fair enough.
Alright but here's what's interesting.
Hold on, hold on.
So then we.
Can we hit pause for a second?
Yes.
So to backtrack.
RV Talk?
No almost.
The Roseanne Show.
Yes.
The Conners is the show that took over.
Yes.
And she was vilified for pointing out obvious stuff.
Yes.
They're on season four.
What are their ratings?
Are they just keeping them alive?
Man I don't know.
Just to make a point?
But they came out.
Yes, they're subsidizing because no one's watching.
Dan got married.
The wedding of Dan and Louise.
Who's Louise?
I don't watch the show.
That's Louise from the Jeffersons.
I refuse to watch it.
The wedding of Dan and Louise and that was October 13, 2021.
That was just right there.
So the show is still alive and kicking and it's a.
I won't watch it.
But I tried watching Roseanne.
I won't either.
When they rebooted it.
I didn't want to watch that.
Well because I liked the original Roseanne.
I liked it too.
So I watched I think one maybe two episodes.
I was like this is terrible.
No.
Shelly and I were like we were willing to give it.
We were willing to go the distance.
Well we tried it.
It's just a sign of the times.
Yeah we tried it and it was not as good.
It was not as good.
But it was getting there.
I thought it was getting better.
Like the writing was getting better.
The acting was getting better.
It was less choppy.
No.
Wow.
It's kind of hard to.
They tried to recreate what they had before and I think they missed.
It's tough.
You know you got different writers and then you have look Roseanne's not Republican and
you have a Republican show.
I'm sorry Roseanne is Republican.
I don't know what she is.
I would think so.
But I don't know.
Well my point is is well it just.
Well it's it's the they can't tell the same type of jokes.
Right.
They got to be woke.
It's that's what I mean.
They need to incorporate that bullshit and take all the Netflix things you have to have
a gay people just coming out of the woodwork.
I come out.
That's not real life.
Well in the reboot.
The kid the the the son is wearing girls clothes.
What.
Yeah.
No that's right.
Yeah there was a transgender deal where he was wearing makeup and girls clothes.
It was a grand boy wearing girls clothes.
I was like why why why why do you have it's unnecessary.
It's just not necessary.
They're going overboard to normalize and to include and you don't have to.
It's OK.
Yeah.
They want folks to be fixated on stuff that just doesn't matter.
They're trying to normalize it.
Yeah I know they are.
In part of me part of me kind of agrees with it where I think some of it I'm not necessarily
saying it should be normalized but I'm I well I am actually I don't want it to be normalized
but I want people to think that it's not a flaw.
And the way today's society is there's all kinds of people out there that have different
things going on.
It's not a flaw to be you.
Right.
But don't impose you on me.
Correct.
That's exactly.
I don't even have an issue with it.
I'm just tired of it thrown in my face.
Every single show I watch they make the point of throwing it in my face.
And I'm like I don't care.
And I don't even have an issue.
Right.
I don't care.
I don't have an issue with it.
Not at all.
You want to go blow off those sea turtles.
Hey man.
You want to go smacked in the face with a dolphin dick.
Whatever suits your flow.
It's like Eddie Murphy.
You know he's like you can go play tennis with a gay guy.
And then after you're done playing tennis he was like what are you going to do.
I want to go get a beer.
What are you going to do.
I'm going to go suck some of your dicks.
All right.
Well you just go have fun.
Yeah.
Very respectful.
Eddie Murphy said that.
It was in Delirious, his stand up comedy.
Oh boy.
But that kind of stuff.
You can't do that anymore.
No but you can.
You can do that because the way he said it was perfect.
He was like he's like whatever.
He was like I accept you for who you are.
You can do he was he was explaining what you could do and what you can't do with a gay
guy.
Right.
You know he was like well you know you can go play tennis with a gay guy.
And then after tennis comes and he's like what are you going to do.
I'm going to go hang out drink with buddies.
What beer with my buddies.
And what are you going to do.
I'm going to suck.
Well there's there's where you part the waves.
Right.
Who cares.
And back then it was funny.
You know what.
People still have the same opinions.
Yeah.
Back then as they do now.
I think you're right.
It's just there's a subset.
There's just a subset who are forcing their opinions.
It's they scream very loud.
Yes.
It's just it's the it's that silent.
It's that it's no I'm sorry.
It's that loud minority.
It's not the silent majority.
It's that fucking ultra loud minority that don't do anything.
It's almost those screaming on Twitter who Jack Dorsey has stepped down.
Right.
Yeah.
What was the point of that.
Who cares.
I don't care.
Yeah.
I don't care either.
That was the biggest non news thing ever.
Yeah.
Well they're trying to.
Well stock went down big time.
In fact stock went down so bad stock went down so bad they stopped trading.
They did.
On Twitter.
How legal is that.
No I mean that's normal.
No that's normal.
That that there's big swings a percentage they'll stop.
Yeah.
That's official stock market rules.
That's not the bullshit Robin Hood.
We're gonna we're gonna pause from like anybody on this platform can't can't trade this.
That's different.
That's very different than the stock market pausing a trade.
So just like they did with D WAC right.
It went up so high they pause it because they they want to make sure everything's in the
up and up right.
Oh sure.
There's other reasons I don't understand all of it.
Well I mean I'm thankful because you know I'm I'm about a thousand at 90.
It's down to 60.
Of what.
Of D WAC.
I don't even know what D WAC is.
That's the Donald Trump.
It's a social platform.
It's the it's the on.
Just hold on to it man.
Don't do anything.
Just forget about it.
I believe in it.
I'm keeping it for a year.
I've already made up my mind.
I'm investing it for at least a year so that because after you don't pay taxes on it.
Well and if he runs again and becomes president that may go crazy.
Oh yeah.
As a matter of fact I'd like to buy thousand D WAC.
Well right now D WAC right now is when you buy it because I bought it at 90.
It's like it's like 50 right now.
OK.
Yeah.
I mean right now it's time to buy it.
I may do that for sure.
Yeah.
I'm down on it.
I'm down on everything right now anyway.
So well I mean look a thousand bucks.
It's a lot of money.
I would not have been able to do this.
You know I mean but you know if if it if it's something I think if once he starts running
oh my God I think if I keep that money in fact I might even increase it.
I might even invest when I get my bonus this year and buy some more of that D WAC you know
I buy it at 40 50 bucks because I know once it comes that time around again in two and
a half three years when we start doing the campaigning.
Yeah.
Trump is going to be on top dude.
He's in his game.
So what's going on with the platform itself.
Are they doing anything.
Are they posting.
What they're doing is they're licking their wounds one small step at a time.
They take two steps forward and someone comes back says hey you're using illegal content
meaning that we wrote the software on the HTML on that you're not allowed to use our
software.
So they are.
Well we'll take two steps back.
We'll re correct this and write our own software for this website and then we'll go forward
again.
And so they're like well that website looks too much like ours.
So because they're too much.
We scrutinize every step.
All the big tech is trying to keep them down saying it's you're you're stealing our stuff
and that's what's going on right now and that's why the cost is down right now because when
it went online and that's one of the prizes went boom.
And then that's where everyone was like oh my god down to forty one dollars.
Is that is that the right.
Yeah.
D WAC.
Yeah.
That's not good for me.
But that that well it is what it is.
Go back to that picture please.
Yeah.
Why does it look like years.
There is no five years.
Go back.
What do you go back.
Go back one month.
No that's forecast.
That doesn't matter.
Go back one month.
In fact that's stupid for guys.
You see how I was.
Yeah.
OK.
It's actually higher than that.
Go back six months.
Yeah it was.
Right there.
I bought it right there.
You bought it at the high point.
Yeah I did.
It was up to one hundred and twenty I thought.
Well maybe but I bought it at around ninety four.
It looks like the high end.
I'm hanging on to it.
That's all there is.
So those are probably closed but it got up to one hundred and twenty before it crept back
down.
Oh I see.
Oh that was a close.
Yeah.
OK.
So once it starts going up I mean I don't know once it starts dropping down I might
buy another thousand and I'm just going to hang on to it.
Well the 52 week range is one seventy five.
Yeah it got way up there.
Holy shit.
It got way up there.
And the low point is nine nine nine eight four.
Yeah ninety four.
Wow.
OK.
Well I mean I'm in.
I mean it might be a long it's a long it's a long stock.
Yeah you got to hold on to it for for quite a while.
Right.
And now I mean I am a I used to think my fantasy football team was good.
So who knows.
Maybe I'm just full of teams.
Sucks.
Dude you had a bad week.
Sucks.
I've had a bad week.
I've had a bad season.
My frickin quarterback got five points through four interceptions.
Yeah.
Wow.
I was projected to beat your ass too.
Yeah I know you were.
Who was your first last point had seventy four points and I'm on Jackson.
He had four picks.
I gave me five points.
Oh I didn't even hear about that.
Yeah four picks.
Lamar Jackson was jamming too.
If you were to watch the game you thought he was doing good.
Minus the picks.
Well Ryan Tannehill had four picks last week.
Not this week but last week.
And we lost again this week.
Crazy.
Bangalore.
Yeah well Jackson you're like in ninth place right.
I haven't looked today but yeah I'm down to bottom.
Robert Berry is two and ten.
All I've got to do is not.
And he's got more points than at least four of the teams above him.
He's got more points than I do.
Yeah.
I beat him though so I'm fine with it.
That's so crazy.
I think we all beat him.
Dude did you see.
You know I know this boring talk but I mean the guy that's leading is leading by like
300 points.
He's running away with it.
I've never seen that before.
Is that Joe?
That's Joe.
He'll probably win this year.
He's got 1500 points.
Played a two.
But yeah fantasy football you know I'm thoroughly frustrated with it.
EA Sports.
You know I projected to a hundred and five points and I never go by the projected by
coming at what 62.
Yeah.
I think it's freaking 62.
Yeah that was dramatically different than the projected.
What the hell.
Yeah.
You know my Nick Chubb didn't do shit.
My James Robinson didn't do shit.
Everyone is getting hurt.
I know it.
But players are there.
It's different.
It's different than any other year I've ever played fantasy football.
Negative.
Other than COVID and we had COVID last year.
I just I think I think it is different.
How.
I just think that some of these players are getting hurt.
Everybody gets hurt every year.
Yeah I just think they're getting hurt.
The trend is that they're more they're getting hurt more this year.
I don't know what to do.
On your team.
On everyone's team.
No I get it.
I get it.
I know it seems crazy.
Most of my guys have been on the bench all year long.
Well I think that these the style of game playing now they recognize that you're not
going to have the Emmet Smiths.
They're not going to have the Corey Davises.
I think that that these workhorses that we've been used to in the past they're not necessarily
extinct but you know we got to learn to protect them.
And if they're projected to last five years I'm sorry three years then or five years whatever.
The point is is that you need to have another quarter of a running back that is as beefy.
So you need to have Zeke Zeke's hurt.
And he's he's not done much this year.
Yeah I mean most teams are going with a tandem rotation of the backs.
And you have to because it's too much.
I mean look at Derek Henry he got hurt boom out of the season.
Oh is he.
Well I mean you know he's he may make it back for the playoffs if you know if we can we
can hold it together until then.
But yeah I mean you know guys are dropping like flies and I think a lot of teams.
The reason why they go with the with the tandem or rotation of running backs for sure.
Those are the ones that take the most beating right.
The right.
Yeah there's not much they can do about quarterbacks.
It's not like you can.
The receivers have wide receivers have the trend now that were there.
You know they're statistically making on the average more points than running backs are.
That to me is crazy.
It used to be in the order quarterbacks runbacks wide receiver.
Oh yeah.
And that's the way I've always drafted and I got it that way.
This year it's I think you're right.
I think it's changed.
We've got to change our our strategy because I think run of backs need to be.
Well I mean we always splitting carries are always.
Well we we were running we're doing we're doing what one one running back one wide receiver
and then two flex right.
And a tight end to him and a tight end and that flex and it could be a run of back wide
receiver or tight end.
And I tell you what if if we didn't have those two flexes I think there would be a lot of
hurt players teams out there.
We're already suck.
Can you imagine if we didn't have those flexes.
I hear you.
What about making a having a second QB as a flex.
That's crazy.
It is it.
Well no I disagree with that.
There are some quarterbacks out there that you know to put them on a flex would be ridiculous
because you would always start to quarterbacks.
Yeah you would always always because they always get you know a minimum 15.
No.
Typical.
I got five I know mine have gotten shitty as well but you see Sean had one.
It's not it's not a typical for a you know a subpar performance to be 10 to 15 points
but 10 to 15 points for a running back or wide receiver is a good game.
Yeah it is.
So do we even talk about our bourbon that we're trying here.
Do we have bourbon.
No no not yet.
Let's talk about it.
I talked about.
Who did talk about the last one.
I think we all did.
Yeah we might have all.
All right.
This was called few few good men few spirits straight bourbon whiskey 93 proof 93 proof.
OK.
It's no slouch but it's not you know not a powerhouse.
It's just I think it's kind of in the middle.
OK.
You know.
Yeah.
For me anyway it's it's I think it's it's it's spicier than the last one.
This one's 93 proof and the other one was one hundred nineteen.
Yes.
I think this one definitely has a spicier flavor to it.
I wonder if it's got the northern right.
That even says in their northern right spiciness of the northern right.
Yep.
It's a three grain recipe that infuses generation of southern tradition with the spiciness of
northern rye and a touch of malt for smoothness.
Few is handcrafted through a small batch process in charred oak barrels to age its bourbon
whiskey.
All right scroll down see if we can get a little bit more information about the mash
bill or is that it.
No that's it.
I don't know much not much to share about it.
OK.
It's out of Illinois.
They distill it and bottle it there.
Age it there.
It's definitely cheaper.
Right.
I think you've got yours for thirty six bucks.
Yeah I get mine.
Those are the 30s when I.
Yeah.
It was like 30 something.
Yeah.
That's not a bad price for that.
No that's about right for that.
I like the bottle.
That's different.
It's a square bottle.
It reminds me of like an old medicine bottle or something.
Kind of does kind of tastes like it a little too.
Yeah.
Again not my favorite.
It's not the worst.
You know it's not a back beat.
Not a back beat.
Thank you.
That's our goalpost.
That's our measuring stick.
Is it like on the very low end.
Yeah.
Does it beat back beat.
Yes it does.
Wow.
All right.
OK.
You know what I would like to continue our conversation from where we ended up on the
last podcast.
Hopefully others are rolling right into this one.
So yeah I mean Sean's going to bitch and whine about how cuts of meat.
You know we talked about the parts of the cow.
Is what is what are the best cuts of meat to sous vide for the best tender stuff.
I mean as we Jeff and I invested in a sous vide if you don't know what sous vide is it's
a product made by Nova.
I'm sure they have other types of a million ones that control the temperature of water
that you put a sacked vacuum packed piece of meat in and throw a temperature like say
for example you have a T-bone steak and it's cut at 12 ounces and you throw it in a bag
and you vacuum pack it or you season it a vacuum pack it and you throw it in the water
for two hours two hours whatever.
Let's say it's let's say it's an inch and a half thick you want to put a half hour for
every is a half hour for every half inch.
I don't know.
It's something like that.
It's a half inch for every hour for a fuck.
What is it.
Maybe it's an hour for every half inch.
I think that's what it is.
An hour for every half inch so much three hours for an inch and a half.
It's about right.
Yeah.
So anyways the purpose of it is that it cooks the temperature kills all the germs when it
because there are some other concerns were that like for chickens and porks and stuff
that you know if you don't cook it at one hundred sixty five degrees you're going to
you're going to fucking die.
Now you can actually cook it at one hundred thirty five degrees consistently for more
than 20 minutes and it kills all that type of bacteria.
Yeah I usually cook the chicken at one forty five I think and it's.
At a certain point.
Yeah the texture changes dramatically between rubbery 135 and 165.
I found one forty five is perfect because I've done it lower.
Yeah and it's and it is it's kind of rubbery.
Yeah and one forty five it's super juicy perfectly it's white inside it's not not chewy.
No not at all.
It's very very I do want a little bit less.
I do mind at one thirty five but Jeff will cook his to eat.
So meaning that he cooks his and he eats it right away.
I cook mine and I freeze them and then you heat them up later.
Yeah so what I higher than what you left it at.
Well he finishes cooking it it cooks more when he eats it up.
Yeah and the problem that I was experiencing is that when I reek reheated it it was have
it had a tendency to be drier you know.
So that's why I had dropped the initial temperature down to one thirty five because I was like
what the hell am I doing wrong.
I don't understand.
Right.
And that's what the deal was.
At least that's it's been working so far and it's still fine line because you got to be
careful you know to the point where you know there are sometimes I take it out of the freezer
and I throw it in the pan the pot in a boiling water and now I'm thinking now I'm at a point
where I take it out in the morning I wake up have my coffee I take my chicken out or
whatever I'm going to eat and I set on the countertop and I let it fall get room temperature
and then I throw it in the pan for you know five ten minutes as opposed to letting a frozen
piece of meat boil in a pan for 20 minutes.
Right.
Now I've heard that you're not supposed to fire at room temperature chicken you're not
supposed to.
You're not supposed to leave or turkey poultry you're not supposed to get the room temperature
in general.
Well but if it's already cooked I mean that's probably if it's raw I don't know chickens
little squirrel.
I will tell you that I bought a Popeyes turkey that was precooked and they explicitly said
do not thaw at room temperature Popeyes.
Yeah about a Popeyes frozen turkey that was precooked and they explicitly said that.
So they said chickens little squirrel yeah and they said 72 hours in the refrigerator
or or 10 to 12 hours in water that you you swap out the water every 30 minutes.
Yep.
In cold water cold water and then swap it out every 30 minutes meaning don't let the
water get too warm.
Yeah yeah right.
You're supposed to you're supposed to thaw poultry in the in the fridge and the best
way to do it right.
I just don't throw that out there because I think people think too much.
I think that the opportunity to get sick from chicken is there.
I just think it's overrated.
I get sick.
I know that's true but I mean you do need to follow you know follow the guidelines for
handling you know certain types of meat.
I'm on one spectrum of poultry pork or whatever that's important.
Well I mean there are some people that eat raw chicken.
There are some people that eat raw eggs you know and they're absolutely fine raw chicken
raw chicken.
I don't know Google it eating raw chicken.
I saw a show on it.
Is that a fetish is that that's not a fetish.
It's nothing like that.
Is that that grill guy that it's a survivalist he chases down wild chickens and actually
raw.
It's strange enough it is a it is a kind of a hillbilly looking dude and he was a fact
the CPS had had to come into his house because he was forcing his whole family to eat raw
chicken.
It's like do you understand you get salmonella and all but they had been doing it for years
and never got sick.
So I mean come on.
Yeah who knows.
I'm just saying the opportunities there but it doesn't necessarily mean that it's all
bad.
I mean imagine if you're out in the whatever.
It's about taking risk right.
I mean I mean we I would prefer to not take risks.
Yeah.
I'm going to always cook it to what they recommend type of thing.
But I mean you're right.
Well the key is to the sous vide what it does is it pasteurizes it.
That's why you can cook to a lower temperature for longer.
And that's why I'm saying once once you pasteurize it and it's sealed in that bag what is it
sealed right.
There's you know it's bacteria.
Yeah there's not an opportunity for it.
That's why.
So when I take it out of the fridge or freezer and let it get to room temperature because
it is vacuum packed.
Right.
At least I think I mean that that might be one of the things.
Right.
That could be.
I don't know.
Anyway I never had an issue with it but you know.
So the chicken turns out real wild.
The steaks I've done rib eyes.
I've done fillets.
I've done T bones sous vide.
They all turn out good.
Yeah we actually did.
We did do a brisket.
You did a brisket but you know.
Well thank you Jeff.
Let out the juice out.
Yes he did save any of the Jews.
He was so fast I couldn't stop.
He's like all the Jews spewed.
You didn't.
It was fucked up before then.
So did we have video.
Oh yeah.
It leaked everywhere.
Didn't it.
Well the thing is I had two turkey basting bags and I put one inside the other and they
just fucking leaked.
That's all there is to it.
And here's the thing to all those folks out there that want to experiment doing a sous
vide to cook a brisket in a vacuum packed bag.
Don't get a 15 16 20 pound brisket.
You know there's no need to get a 10 pounder get a 10 pounder get a 12 pounder get something
that's going to actually fit in the fucking bag.
You had a huge brisket.
You're that was really the big deal.
I had a fucking I was like how am I going to get this shit in there.
And you know whatever.
So you didn't have a big a bag big enough.
No they come in standard sizes.
They may make them but I didn't have one.
And it's just you learn.
You know that's basically what it is.
So I mean if you can you can get a smaller you know 12 pounder I think a 12 pounder would
be absolutely perfect.
Now hold on.
So you looked at somebody's website or Instagram or whatever or YouTube and you you followed
somebody's lead on this on surveying a suvating.
Yeah these guys I forget their names but do you know what the members.
Suvita everything right.
Suvita everything something like that.
This guy's from the Latinos.
So they're from Mexico or South America.
They were from Brazil.
And you know they do better.
Let's put it this way.
They are so popular they just purchased a three million dollars of a side of Wagyu cow.
This just happened like within the last month.
They spent they spent three million dollars three million dollars on one cow on a half
a cow.
Wow.
Actually I may be lying but I do know it's three million dollars and I saw some meat.
So I saw it was a half a cow.
So he does a lot of crazy shit with it too.
So this is like yeah this is a thousand dollar piece of meat.
I'm going to cover it in peanut butter and let it sit in the fridge overnight.
See what happens to it.
Why.
That's what he does.
And he makes that much money and he tries different things.
Yeah he's got a video.
It's called Guga Foods.
So he says I cooked a Wagyu cow for three million.
So what's actually a video.
I didn't mean to pull up the video of it but it's a Guga Foods and you know they this particular
video is a 12 minute video.
I don't know what it says.
I cooked a Wagyu cow for three million bucks with Guga Foods.
A huge milestone in all thanks to having a cook Wagyu cow for three million.
But what's the point of it.
I mean they're paid him three million dollars to cook this.
Well I'm trying to find out that they paid for it.
Here he is slicing up.
Once that was done we managed to put a rack right underneath and with everyone's help
this is what happened.
So it's exactly what I said.
Half a cow for three million bucks.
No joking.
This thing is humongous and I'm so honored to be able to cook this for you guys.
Now let me give you a little bit more information about this piece of meat.
And for that I got Tim to explain.
This is a 100% full blood Wagyu beef that we raised.
That's Tim's share from the Marlboroage Farms.
100% Wagyu.
100% It's not American mix.
Wagyu is nothing.
No 50-50 here.
Oh man we're going all out everybody.
How big is this thing right now?
It's about 450 pounds.
This was about a 1400 pound live weight kettle.
Tim he did not feel like that.
He felt like a thousand pounds.
It definitely did.
As you can probably already tell this has a lot of fat.
So we got four people to go ahead and start the trimming.
This was really no joke.
Because you gotta remember one thing.
That's what those beef ribs taste like.
We don't remove it it's just gonna go to waste.
That is the last thing we want.
We gotta put this wonderful fat to go to good use.
He's got a weird voice.
So we make sure to trim a good amount.
It's a very soft voice.
It goes down like this.
Everyone can hear it.
It sounds so good.
I think what it is is he cooked it for this guy.
It's a three million piece of meat.
He didn't buy it.
But I think he is cooking it for this guy.
For three million bucks?
That's probably worth three million dollars.
The three million dollar piece of meat if you sold all the pieces probably.
What are they doing with all that fat?
You keep it.
Well they make it.
You add it to something that you want to taste better.
You can make tallow out of it.
You make tallow out of it.
And wagyu fat is different than regular cow fat.
They're all making street tacos.
That's gotta be the most expensive street taco ever.
So they're smoking it.
I haven't seen them do the sous vide part yet though.
No that's his other channel.
He doesn't really do the sous vide on his Google channel.
Oh that is like pretty much medium rare to raw.
So they're injecting it with its own fat.
Say wagyu tallow.
No they're buying ragu tallow.
Yeah you could buy it.
Why?
It adds flavor.
It's like they need to?
Fat is flavor.
That's why you want a well marbled steak.
If you don't have a well marbled steak it's not going to be very good.
So they got half a cow and they are putting gratuitous amounts of rock salt all over it.
Of course.
That's a huge piece.
You know how much salt I put on my brisket?
Really?
F*** that guy.
Did you see that?
So yeah this is the most amount of salt and pepper I've ever used in my life.
If I'm not mistaken we used about 8 pounds of salt and 8 pounds of pepper.
It is a crazy amount.
8 pounds?
And to say that we were all exhausted was an understatement.
You look tired?
Yeah it's a lot of work man.
This is no joke everybody I'm telling you right now.
To boost up the energy it was time to eat once again.
And for that Tim went ahead and made some incredible meals.
They got a bunch of small smokers but those look like pork ribs.
A nice sweet tangy taste was perfect to boost up the morale.
Huge shout out to Joe and Josh.
You guys should definitely check them out on the description.
Yeah see they got several people here on doing this.
Because that other guy the mad scientist I've watched several of his videos.
He does a lot of tests.
My god that looks amazing.
So they had lobsters, they had shrimp.
Anyway so.
There you go.
I'll tell you we went for dinner a couple nights ago.
Went to the crab station here in the colony.
The what?
The crab station.
It's off of 121.
You know where they built the new salt grass?
121 in the colony.
It's right after that.
So it's before like the room store and right after salt grass.
They market price whatever crabs, blue crabs, shrimp, mussels.
It was cool.
Do they have steaks?
No.
For the non-seafood eater because my wife doesn't eat seafood.
She likes crab legs though.
She'll eat crab legs.
Well they've got hamburgers.
Actually they have some stuff.
I didn't really see steaks.
She'll eat crab legs.
She likes crabs.
Well they got crab legs.
They got blue crabs.
They've got lobster, lobster tail.
They had a lot of things to offer but it was good.
I enjoyed it.
It was expensive.
There was 11 of us and it was about 500 bucks.
For 11 people?
It's 50 bucks a pop.
Less than.
Does that include drinks?
Well that was the total bill.
Did you have drinks though?
I mean yeah.
I mean I had two beers.
I mean it wasn't extravagant but you know.
But still 45 bucks a pop at a seafood place.
That's about right.
Well they had other stuff too.
So they had like a lobster dog which was good.
It's basically just a you know it looked like a freaking hot big ass barbers but it was
a lobster dog.
They had like large pots of gumbo they'd bring out.
So when they bring out a gumbo thing it's like 25 bucks for a little cauldron and you
know they'd have like you know come with like a little four bowls.
That you'd share.
Yeah well you know presumably and you shared and they had some linguine that comes out
in a cauldron too and with some bunch of seafood.
It was good.
I'd go again.
I'd go absolutely.
So where was it?
Here in Frisco?
In the colony.
Yeah it's in the colony.
On the colony.
Okay.
Yeah.
There's pictures of it.
I think that it's your lobster roll.
It's not a lobster brat.
Well it's a lobster roll.
But I'm just saying for those folks at home that don't know what that is.
It's sort of a lobster brat because it comes in a bun and it's like a you know it's in
the shape of a fucking brat.
I say we get some charbroiled oysters.
Well I was I actually went to a place called Moby's in New Jersey while I was out there
and that's exactly what I had.
I had a dozen oysters.
Roasted.
And a god bless it a lobster roll.
It was really good.
Two beers.
God.
50 bucks.
I have bad memories.
Yeah it really did man.
Yeah it was actually 67 bucks.
Geez.
God that's insane.
Yeah.
That's an expensive dinner man.
Yeah but how many times are you going to be on the east coast at Moby's to have a lobster
roll because it's not you know.
Well you have lobster roll right there down the street.
That's 25 bucks.
Yeah.
Well the company is paying for it.
Well I mean the company gives you an allowance you know.
There you go.
They give a nine dollar a day allowance.
So he had fifty eight dollars.
Yeah so you had a forty dollar dinner.
Yeah there you go.
That's awesome.
Yeah so kind of getting back to the meats.
We wanted you wanted to get into the types of cook though right.
I know Sean tucked on the sous vide.
Yeah well so before we hop back over to traditional grilling.
So how many people would you say.
I mean I know that sous vide is.
Not that many.
Is is making it's making a run.
Yeah you can find a Costco.
Yeah I've heard more people talking about that than I have in years past.
So I think more and more people are getting.
It's getting affordable.
It's it's easy to do.
But you still have to sear it.
You pull it out.
There's still an element of putting it on.
You don't have to.
In a skillet.
Well it's better if you do.
Yeah it is but you don't have to.
Right.
It looks nasty if you don't sear it.
But I'm just saying in general I think.
There's a.
I mean because like for example like pork loin.
You know I'll take the I'll take a large pork loin and I will put it in a bag I'll season
the shit out of it and I take the pork loin that's lean and I'll season the shit out of
I'll cook the whole thing for like five hours which in retrospect I think I'm going to drop
that down to about.
Well it doesn't matter to about three and a half because I was cooking it for one hundred
and sixty five degrees for like five hours.
OK.
And it was big.
It was you know like two three foot long.
Right.
And you know when that thing was done I would take it and I would I would hold it upside
down so I would let all the juices in the bag go to one side.
And then when I would put it in the refrigerator outside I would tilt the loin so that the
juices would continue to run off the the the meat.
Right.
And gather in a big sack.
OK.
And when that was done then I'd leave it in there two days.
Leave it in there two days let it get coagulated and and then after that I take the I take
the the loin out and I would take my hands and I would scrape all the seasoning.
The schmeg.
Yeah the schmeg and I would I'd cut half inch pieces all the way up.
I'd like half inch slice slice slice.
OK.
And that's what I do.
I prepackage that.
And then so it's already cooked.
It's ready to go.
But my point is when you serve it how are you cooking it.
So after I after I sous vide it then to serve it for me I eat it for lunch.
So I basically take the bag because after I take it out there and I slice it I re vacuum
pack it individually.
So all I do is I take the how many people are eating three people take three bags out
throw it in the pot.
Boom.
Twenty minutes.
So you're boiling it inside the bag.
Yeah.
Just boil it inside the bag.
You're not pan frying it.
You're not.
No no.
Reverse searing it.
You're just boiling it in water.
I think most people do because I think most of the recipes have you pull you cook it.
Sean does a little differently because he does it for his lunches and it's easier and
I'm lazy.
No I get it.
I think it's not bad.
I mean you're enjoying it.
So obviously it's working for you.
It's fine.
I think most people cook it to where the internal temperature is where it needs to be and then
they pull it out and you get a really like I have some cast iron pans down there.
Right.
Yeah.
Turn it up.
Put some avocado oil in there because you want low smoke because you have to turn up
high.
Right.
And you sear it for like a minute on each side.
Done.
And then done.
Perfectly.
It's got a nice crust on it.
What you're talking about.
This is immediately after you sous vide it.
But you.
OK.
Right after that.
So and I go back to the the thing where you don't have to boil it.
All you have to do is is take it out of the freezer.
Right.
And let it get room temperature or take it out of the take it out of the freezer the
night before and stick it in the refrigerator.
Right.
Those people that are concerned about you know right contamination.
Well just take it out or maybe two days.
Whatever the point is to get get it get the thaw and then when you're ready to eat it
you can boil it.
You can drop it in a pan and then sear it.
You can still.
So it's you could still sear it.
But again it's the it's the it's it's a lazy factor a little bit.
I don't feel like washing the pan.
No I understand it.
And really I take that that meat and I basically just put on a piece of bread like a sandwich.
It's a really thick.
It's imagine having a thick half inch.
Right.
Big pork loin on top of a bread.
I mean I enjoy it.
Yeah.
Nobody on my house will.
They all make fun of me.
I mean over the whole thing.
I would say make fun of me but they definitely don't participate.
Right.
My oldest son will will will jump in there.
I experimented with something this past week which I'm not real happy about the results
of and my brother-in-law had produced he took a huge ass brisket and he cut it up in quarters
and he's got a large smoker which has like seven shelves six shelves.
OK.
And it's it's kind of it's kind of cool from the perspective where he's got like this little
machine that you put the wood in.
He's got the electric kind right.
Yes.
Master built the tall.
It's tall and it's got this little machine on the side that you put some wood in the
smoke so you're the the meat that's actually in the the system the temperature in there
could be you know sixty five degrees and it's still smoking.
So it's smokes they call it.
I don't know what low smoke low smoke.
What low what low smoke.
When your temperature is lower like on my smoker about one hundred and ten hundred fifteen
it's it produces a shit ton of smoke.
You don't want to smoke with that because if you smoke it too much it gets real bitter.
Right.
OK.
So if you put too much smoke on it gets real bitter.
So you need to get to the point like the pellet grills don't usually produce as much smoke
as your offset smoker.
That's the big you know can one with the firebox on the side with the wood would actual wood.
Those produce more smoke and give you and view more smoke into the meat and the pellets
not quite so much but you can control that if you smoke it for a while at lower heat
lower heat will give you more smoke.
It was super tender.
OK.
Whatever you gave me.
So we vacuum packed two sections and he gave me take two sections and I guess they were
like the most fattiest part of the fucking thing.
The sections I got right because when I when you touch it with your hand it was just like
fucking talking to Jell-O was disgusting.
And yeah it was disgusting.
It was disgusting.
That's all I can say.
I can repeat that over and over.
You couldn't even eat it.
It was like no no.
So bad.
I mean no but it was so fatty it to fathom eating it was disgusting.
He didn't trim it.
He didn't I guess.
Did I.
It was too late.
It was too you know it was it was kind of like it was so tender that when you touch
the meat it would disintegrate and kind of go into it.
So what I ended up doing is I took both the bags that night and I stuck it in the big
crock pot that I've got and I just I just put it in there overnight.
It was like 11 o'clock at night stuck in there for like 12 hours but I dumped like a cup
and a half of sugar and a bunch of cayenne pepper on top of it hoping to caramelize it
and hoping to to make it kind of kind of solidify the fat to do something that would create
to do something.
It didn't.
First of all I need to put way more cayenne pepper and you know that's why this whole
thing is a learning curve.
Sure.
You know so I know how much I put on there and I know how much I want to put on there
next time.
But then again that could have been just simply because there was so much fat because so it
didn't do anything.
I tasted the sugar and so the problem now is I have a really super tender sweet with
the sweet now and you know which which didn't taste horrible but it needed some salt.
It didn't taste right.
But what I ended up doing is my point by bringing this up is it you know it was it was smoked.
They cut it.
It was in a bag.
I put it in the crock pot.
I let it go for another 12 hours get all that fat and I fucking strained all that fat out.
Oh wow.
You know and just to leave the meat.
Sure.
So now I go in there and I'm cherry picking strands of meat out of the fat.
You know and I'm putting it in a casserole dish in a big glass casserole dish.
And so I did that and I filled up the whole casserole dish with meat and I've got very
I'm trying not to get as much fat in there.
The goal is to get the fat out of the thing.
So after that I take the casserole dish now that it's full and I put on the fridge two
days and then I take the casserole dish after two days it's coagulated a bunch.
I take a spatula and I cut it into cubes because now it's all and so I take the cubes and I
drop it in a vacuum bag again and now it's ready to be served.
You're over vacuum over vacuuming.
But you know what?
The thing man you know minus that doesn't taste good.
Well ignore that part.
Ignore that part.
No it does taste good.
It really did.
It was super tender and it did taste good.
It was sweeter than I'd liked and when you add a little bit of salt to it it was phenomenal.
I just what I really wanted was I wanted to I wanted it to caramelize in the crock pot
and it didn't caramelize.
That's the problem and I didn't even know if I needed to cook a little bit longer or
what the deal is.
It's kind of a trial and error.
Like you said I mean for one thing it's science man.
So I don't know if you guys have ever gone out to the website Amazing Ribs but that's
a website that I latched on to kind of learn about.
I mean it talks about you know again the different cuts.
It talks about you know all sorts of things.
I've been out on it.
Oh yeah.
It talks about the science behind you know what's happening in the meat when you cook,
when you smoke, when you reverse sear.
I mean it's talking about the science behind it right?
Well like you need to let your meat rest.
They explain to that right because it's a muscle so when you heat it it contracts and
it pushes all the juice out.
So you need to let your meat rest so it loosens back up and pulls some of that juice back
in.
Right and there's a lot of things like that, science based things that make you think about
why you need to do this and this and this and this.
So don't ever cook fish in a sous vide.
Have you tried that?
I haven't.
I can only imagine.
Well it turns to mush.
It's a pate.
Not a bad.
Unless it was real firm.
Like a shark.
If you were.
Or swordfish.
No actually I wouldn't mind.
Swordfish would be good in there because it's like a steak.
Actually that's interesting.
I wouldn't mind experimenting with that.
I'm thinking more of the softer the tilapias, the salmon.
The orange ruffies.
The salmon, orange ruffies.
The salmon might be kind of tough simply because they've got the skin on half of it.
So if you can get that skin off and put just the plank in there by itself without the skin,
I don't know.
It's totally a pate.
Which I'm not against either but I hear it's undesirable from the texture as opposed to
the taste.
You could say it probably tastes fine.
I don't know.
I'm more interested in mastering grilling than I am diving into the sous vide thing.
Because I'm not a master griller.
They talk about master grillers.
And you're farther along Jeff than definitely both of us are.
But it's kind of like smoking and all that kind of stuff.
You want to master riding a tricycle.
Why would you want to master riding a tricycle?
Really?
Grilling compared to sous vide?
Are you serious?
Kind of.
No.
I think I'm going to disagree.
I would say most people who really know how to prepare meat and smoke meat and serve meat
would tell you that grill is the way to go.
God I feel like one of those woke people.
Because you're gay?
No.
Are you saying woke people are gay?
I don't know.
They're not happy.
They can't be happy.
They're always complaining.
They're always upset.
My point by saying that wasn't to put down or delegitimize the folks out there that are
cooking on a charcoal grill.
It seems like.
Any grill.
It just seems like there's a recipe for it.
Some of it's an art.
Some of it's reading the fucking directions.
Each cut of beef is different though.
I've got a five pound whatever.
Directions say raise up two inches from the charcoal.
Let heat to this temperature.
Put on there one hour.
Take it as like come on.
So you're going to say that grilling on a grill is easier than dropping something in
a sealed bag into warm water and cooking it for three hours?
He's got you there.
No.
I had to plug it in.
I had to plug in the vacuums.
Oh my God.
Bill Cosby's coming up.
Did you see that Bill Cosby may get thrown back in the clink?
What did he bang now?
No.
They're going to try to overrule.
I think it's gone to the Supreme Court or a higher court at least.
Hold on.
Say that again.
What did I miss?
Bill Cosby may be getting thrown back in the jail.
Yes.
I have heard that.
So I don't know.
They're wanting to the prosecution that had their case overturned or ruled thrown out
or whatever.
Yeah.
They want to escalate it to the Supreme Court to do something.
I don't know what that is.
Yeah.
So he may be back in prison here.
I hope so.
He deserves it.
100% deserves it.
Yeah.
So they're going to the Supreme Court.
Holy shit.
Who was it that I was?
There was somebody I was arguing with.
Oh, during the elk trip.
One of the guys at the camp was thinking that he was being screwed by...
Bill Cosby?
Yeah.
Yes.
No, he did it to himself.
You know what?
I guess it's the whole when you're a celebrity, everybody comes after you.
And then I was like, but 60 women?
Like six zero?
Really?
Right.
You know, he's just one of those guys that, you know, he has an addictive personality
and he's genuinely obviously not a good person.
I know we talked about this and we're like, well, is it bad that he did this?
Yes, it is bad.
He raped women.
Yeah.
It's totally bad.
You know, it just sucks because of the good that was his album cover for decades.
I know.
You know, the wholesome comedy.
He was the poster boy.
Yeah.
The PBS, you know, public broadcast systems poster child and working with black children
and just, you know, the city has a dark, dark side.
You know, in his dark, evil, evil side of him.
I want to start it when he was 13.
I want to Spanish fly a wonderful ever really hear the truth out of his mouth.
Oh, hell no.
He'll deny it.
He's already told the truth.
He'll deny it until he's buried.
He shared the truth in a parody.
Well, in that standup routine.
Yeah, that is not a parody.
That is the truth.
Yeah.
You know, so ridiculous at the time.
Yeah.
He's kind of like, I wish I had a handful of Spanish fly.
I see a bunch of girls in the corner.
You know, I'm everything is a party.
See a bunch of girls.
Oh, I sure wish I had a group.
Come on.
Yeah, you know, bad.
That's not that's not a parody.
No, that he was talking about drugging women with Spanish for life.
Yeah.
For what reason?
Hmm.
Well, because he is jello.
This is jello on.
Yeah, no kidding.
Anyway, yeah.
So that's that was an interesting thing.
That's jello.
Put in pops were good, too.
Do they still make those?
I haven't seen them.
I don't know.
I used to eat the shit out of those things.
Jello put it's probably what's wrong with us.
Let's fucking those chicken tenders with the hormones from chicken McNuggets.
You know, the you know, that's why we got big old titties.
I've never read a lot of chicken McNuggets.
Yeah.
Were you a big Mac guy?
No.
I like big quarter pounder.
I got the quarter pounder every now and then, but it's like regular hamburgers.
You know what I like about Big Mac?
The special sauce.
You don't like it or you do?
It's a huge fan of the Thousand Island.
You know, I even know it's thousand.
I was just like, don't like it.
I never ate the Big Mac.
I always got the quarter pounder.
Yeah, I ate Big Macs.
I remember when the Olympics were in Los Angeles.
Was that 1984?
Yes, it was.
I was 14 or 15, depending on the time of the year.
And the Olympics, every time they won a gold, if you had this ticket, you'd get a free Big
Mac.
Well, I had a bunch of these tickets and because we want to shitload of gold.
Yeah, we did.
And I had four Big Macs in one sitting.
Oh, good Lord.
And I couldn't eat any after that.
I was sick of them.
You ate four of them in one sitting?
Yeah, I was 15.
Well, that happens.
I mean, you overdose on them at a certain point with anything.
Alcohol and your body's like, yeah, we are now developed a permanent strike on fucking
Big Macs.
What does it say?
Your body is now sanctioned.
The Big Mac program.
Yeah.
So I remember we went to McDonald's and they had one dollar or two dollar double hamburgers.
Oh, yeah.
I've worked there and worked that.
Yeah.
Double hamburgers or like burgers.
Yeah.
Double cheeseburger.
Yeah.
So I got two of them.
I got two double hamburgers and cheeseburger.
Well, I asked for no cheese.
Oh, you're one of them.
Yeah, I'm one of them.
I want a fresh.
I don't like the cheese.
Please don't get the no, no, no.
I just didn't like.
Can you keep the cheese of the size, please?
Oh, my God.
Really?
Anyway, so I got I got two of those.
I'm trying to think of it was three.
It might have been two.
It was two.
So how many?
I got back to the house and I was like, this isn't good.
And I got out of the car and I'm talking about like less than 10 years ago.
And I threw up in my backyard.
Really?
What's the taste bad?
It tasted great.
I mean, it wasn't like I tasted it and felt nauseous.
Well, I'm sure that you just it was so much something or so much something.
I don't know what it was, but I literally I have never experienced that before.
So you buy it.
Oh, yeah.
I got.
Yeah.
When we got home, I threw it all up and I was like, well, what's the most you've ever
ordered from a burger joint?
Do what?
Well, how many?
I mean, there's a I remember when I lived in El Paso, I went to this place.
It was literally called Burgers or something like that.
And they had like the twenty nine cent hamburger.
It was something similar.
It was forty nine cents.
Fifty nine cents.
It was really cheap.
And I was like, I'll have fifteen burgers, you know, and they were just kind of, you
know, so gross.
But yeah, but back then it was kind of like, fuck it, man.
I mean, I told it all a bill.
Bam.
Throw that down there and we eat all of it.
I mean, probably the most I could eat is three singles.
I probably couldn't eat more.
Are you kidding me?
I don't know.
How many hot dogs have you ever eaten?
Three at one time.
Three is my max.
Probably two.
Lord.
Why did I just think of Tracy Lourdes for some reason?
What are you doing these days?
Tracy Lawrence.
Lourdes.
So anyway, yeah.
So three of those.
I think I've eaten six to eight hamburgers because the single patty one is a little.
I could eat six White Castle burgers, but there's no way you can.
I could eat six McDonald hamburgers.
Yeah.
You know, the thing about Tracy Lourdes, Tracy Lourdes, Tracy Lourdes is famous because she
was an underage porn star.
They thought she was of age, but she was like 16.
She was 16 and she was gobbling for four pack.
That's great.
Yeah.
And so she fought through it and now she has a respectable career.
She's a, I think she's got into regular acting.
I don't know if it's like big movies.
I want to say she was not in Melrose Place or something similar to that.
She was on that.
She used a fake birth certificate to conceal the fact that she was two years under the
legal age of 18.
Yeah.
She was.
Yeah.
I wonder if the, if she, if the producer or the owner of that company ever got sued or
anything, you know, I mean, she produced a fake birth certificate.
I don't know.
I don't know what the looks real.
I've authenticated it.
She's of age.
Yeah.
I mean, what are the rules?
How far do you have to take it?
Do you have to take that birth certificate and take it somewhere?
Wow.
Hold on.
I've never seen all the Tracy Lords comp.
Look at that.
I never realized she was in that many films.
The sex goddess.
Well, how many of those are those porn?
That's are those porn?
Yeah.
It looks like three.
Yeah, I think they are.
What gets me hot?
So get night.
Oh my God.
Peek a boo gang.
Private fantasy.
Yeah.
Get past all that.
And sex Fifth Avenue.
This is 85.
So erotic gold, electric blue, Beverly Hills.
Why?
1985.
Well, she did a lot of them.
Battle of the Stars, Beverly Hills copulator.
What?
Why is guys 88 not of this earth and 88?
Stallone's knockouts in 90s.
She was in some movie.
That's a TV movie.
She.
OK, looks like she made the jump in 19 because Cry Baby had Johnny Depp in it.
All right.
So it looks like she stopped doing porn in 86.
Yeah.
So from the mid 90s on MacGyver in 90.
So it looks like there was a period where she stopped and then it looks like from 90
on.
Hold on.
Scroll down.
It says wise guy TV series.
That was an 88.
She was Monique.
Monique.
So I think that's where it started.
Yeah.
I keep going up because I saw another the Nutt House.
Oh, yes.
Tress.
All right.
Well, maybe she was like sprinkling in a few.
I think that's exactly what was happening.
What is the Tommy Knocker?
Is that a?
That's a Stephen King.
Oh, I thought that sounds like.
She was on Highlander, the show Tales from the Crypt.
No, it looks like she got a little more legit.
Whatever.
I mean, you know, what I want to say, what a tragic story.
But look, look, let's let's get real.
You know, I'm not condoning sex at 16.
But let's let's be let's let's think of this from a different perspective.
You know, they currently we are allowing 12 year olds and 13 year olds to be married to
certain Muslim populations where they're being gifted as wives.
And we're not there.
There's no uproar.
You know, here in the States, here in the States, they've got some weird shit going
on to their stories that pop up all the time.
I don't have anything on the top of my head, but there are stories that you got 16 year
old girls that are getting married or are gifted and that are protected under religious
cults.
You know, yeah, you see that.
I can't pull.
I also have that that the guy who had that cult, I think he had a compound here in Texas,
not the Davidians, but his last name was Jeffers.
And he was marrying like 12 13 year olds.
He had like 30 wives and like kids with them.
Right.
So there is a documentary out there.
Jim Jim Jeffers.
I can't remember Warren Warren Jeffers.
That's it.
And he had I don't remember what it was a form of the Latter Day Saints, I think an
offshoot of that was basically a cult.
Yeah, he's he's a weird individual, man, dressed up in white, fundamentalist Church of Jesus
Christ of the Latter Day Saints.
Yeah.
And he's in prison now.
That's so messed up in the name of like Jesus and the name of all that.
I mean, really?
Yeah.
I mean, that is like.
So their philosophy is, you know, once there's grass on the field, play ball kind of mentality,
you know, it's just like, you know, there's no emotional growth to to complement the physical
growth.
You know, it's just, you know, maybe this is something that has.
I don't know.
I mean, I'm not it's definitely not right.
It's sick.
But at the same time, how sick is it?
Is it I mean, in my mind, it's sick because I've been taught it's sick and then I have
daughters and I feel it's sick.
But you know, maybe in the twelve hundred, fourteen hundred, sixteen hundreds.
And when the life expectancy was twenty five.
Yeah.
Well, that may be I'm sure played into it.
Maybe that's what it was.
Yeah.
It probably wasn't unusual for for for women to be to be girls to be married off at fifteen
and sixteen back in the Middle Ages.
OK.
Well, I mean, look, I get that prime example.
Game of Thrones.
That's real.
Do you remember the red, the redhead?
And she was married to Jeffrey.
Right.
And she was like, I just had my period.
I have to have sex with them.
Right.
And she was like 15.
Well, in the book, if you read the book, most of those characters were twelve, thirteen,
fourteen years old.
Wow.
And in the book, three of an younger.
Right.
I read the books and I don't even remember them being that young.
It's kind of gross.
Yeah.
You know, some of the older ones in the molder.
I was gross, too.
Is it?
Well, I mean, if that's what it takes for you to get through it.
I mean, whatever.
Yeah.
So that was one of the complaints.
Three plus three.
That's one of the complaints because there were sex things with.
It's OK.
We're wearing a plus three right in the book.
Right.
I have a ring of everybody who looks plus four years older.
It's a I have a cloak.
I have a cloak of of look older.
That's fucked up.
It's funny, though.
It's funny when you've played like games where, you know, like World Warcraft or what was
some of the games that we played on Xbox where you require certain armors which, you know,
boost your Diablo, this boost your intellect, boost your charisma.
You're talking about Dungeons and Dragons, right?
Dungeons and Dragons.
I freaking love it.
That's hilarious.
We had a charisma plus three and I've got a.
I've got a gender plus minus and let's roll with the let's go with the plus three years
was a crowd.
What do they call it?
Let's call it a chronology roll.
I've got a chronology bonus.
Oh, minus three.
Shit.
Damn, she's only ten.
Damn.
I've got a chronology roll of minus 60.
So I got to wait till I'm seventy five to back.
That's so wrong.
That was bad.
I so what I mean, I don't even actually never mind.
I was going to ask about this Warren Jeffs guy.
But what about Warren Jeffs?
It says fifteen horrifying true facts about church leader Warren Jeffs.
Well, he's only got two felony counts of Czechoslovakia.
Yeah, there's a bunch of them.
Oh, yeah, it's OK.
Yeah, he's a pretty he went on.
He went on the run.
But you know what?
You talked about the Davidians, like David Koresh.
He he also had like a whole bunch of wives and some of them were really haram.
But I don't think he was banging toddlers.
Well, I don't know if he was banging toddlers.
It was like I think as soon as they.
Yeah.
I mean, I think if they were twelve years old.
Well, I got this question.
Great question.
Yeah, he was.
But I don't think I don't think I don't know.
That's a producer.
We got David Koresh brides.
I don't know.
David Koresh with a with a with a K.
Yeah, there he is.
Those are crazy.
I think I was in college when that whole thing went down.
I saw it.
Oh, yeah.
No, we all huddled down in the TV room at the dorm watching the Davidian compound burn.
Yeah, I remember watching the live.
So I was out of school video of the bullets flying through the siding on the second floor.
Yes, they shot the guy climbing on the roof.
Yeah, there were the agents were out there and it's like, do you see a hole to do to
the holes will get closer to the agent and then boom, hit the agent.
He was like, oh, fall over.
And you're like, fuck, that just happened.
Live on live TV.
Yeah, it was bad.
So allegations of child abuse is statutory rape.
Koresh was alleged to have involved by chosen women in the community.
Well, it says 24 children by choice.
These 24 children were served were to serve as the ruling elders.
Get the hell out of here.
Over the millennium after the return of the Christ.
This is not interesting.
It seems to be a recurring a recurring theme that these like very charismatic religious
leaders just have to have sex with really young girls.
I know.
It's kind of strange.
Kind of odd.
Yeah.
Hmm.
Wonder why that would be was what's what's the guy down in Ghana?
Koolaid Jim Jones.
Was he like that?
I don't know.
He killed everybody.
It was bad.
Did he kill himself?
Yeah, he took it too.
Because he knew they were coming for me.
I was coming.
So he killed everybody, killed everybody, including himself.
And he killed some FBI folks, I think.
That's why the FBI was coming down there because they came down there to investigate.
Oh, and they he had them killed.
He had them killed.
And then they were trying to leave, but they had him killed.
So the whole Jim Jones thing.
That was back in the Jones.
Jim Jones.
He's not bringing a bill.
Why not?
Yeah.
You never heard about the Koolaid?
Yeah.
Where he killed like 250 people.
Was that like an island or something?
It was in Ghana.
They moved.
In Africa?
No, it wasn't Africa.
It was down in South America somewhere.
Yeah, it was.
Oh, it was?
Oh, Ghana.
That's right.
My bad.
The Cuba area.
Like.
Jonestown.
Jonestown, Ghana.
Yep.
That's right.
It's just to the east of Venice.
They drank a shitload of cyanide poison Koolaid.
Cyanide poison.
Yeah.
Yep.
How many people died?
Does it say at the very top?
I think they had over three thousand people.
No.
It was a significant number.
All of them died?
No.
Mass murder, the Klinilizer.
Three hundred and four of them were children.
Nine hundred and eighteen.
Nine hundred and eighteen people.
Three hundred and four of them were children.
And did anybody survive?
I don't know.
Well, I mean.
Almost all of the members died by drinking flavored, flavor aid laced with cyanide.
Unbelievable.
I'd be that guy that faked it.
Well, you know what?
There had to be at least one.
I'd be like.
They didn't all take it.
Yeah, exactly.
They didn't all take it at once.
So you probably said these people.
I don't think cyanide is a real pleasant way to go.
Well, your body will.
My brother was poisoned with eating peach pits.
Peach pits or plum pits, something like that.
And it had a bunch of cyanide in the pits.
Your brother?
Yeah.
And we ended up taking him to the hospital because his lips were turning fucking blue.
How did he have that?
He was eating plums or something that had large apricots.
I think it was apricots where he was eating the fucking seeds and the seeds had cyanide
in them.
How?
It's a natural thing that the seeds have.
Oh, OK.
OK.
My point by bringing that up is that, you know, it sounds like if his lips were turning
blue, to me it sounds like they asphyxiated something where because if your lips are turning
blue, then it's.
You lose oxygen.
Yeah, you lose an oxygen somehow.
So maybe something's happened to your lungs or maybe your intake of oxygen is where the
cyanide in fruit seeds.
How dangerous is it?
Yeah, there's cyanide in apple seeds.
Small amounts, but there's some.
OK.
I've eaten apple seed.
I never.
You eat them every now and then.
It might be healthy to have one or two every now and then and live life on the.
I have a whole jar of them.
I just sit there and eat them.
Kind of like sunflower seeds.
Yeah.
And chew them all up.
I grind mine up into a tea.
And you steep it?
Apple apple tea, cyanide.
I like to steep it with a carrot.
Well, I had no idea.
But 900 people.
I mean, you would think that the people that drank it first, right, if they're all lining
up to drink it, or I don't know how they handed it out.
But like you said, the people that are dying first are like, and the other people.
I don't think it happened.
And the other people are like, yeah, we probably should.
It's also what's also called out.
He had there's several movies.
It's to call.
He probably had the brainwash saying this is our time to ascend to heaven or whatever
he probably told me.
Painful.
Yeah, it's going to be painful at first, but this is our sacrifice to mean salvation.
Let's do it.
Just like the just like the heaven.
Did he kill himself?
Yeah, did he kill him?
He killed himself with a revolver, though, didn't he?
I don't remember.
I don't know.
I don't think he poisoned himself.
I don't know.
He was a I want to say he's a puss.
Suicide by gunshot right there.
Boom.
You're kidding.
Gunshot.
Yeah.
Little loser.
He couldn't even drink the same shit that he that he did to his bike because he watched
people and yeah, I'm not doing that.
And then did he?
I think he killed his own children and own wife.
Well, there were there were there were parents.
Giving this shit to their kids.
God, take this.
Take this.
He was for he was in 50 years old.
He's 47.
I mean, you know, God.
To have that much control over.
I mean, there's so much you can do.
So much good you can do is what I'm getting at.
And to waste it on something like some stupid faction.
That's that's narcissism ego.
Whole nine years wrapped into that.
I need to be worshipped.
That's absolutely insane.
And you had the Heaven's Gate cult.
Is that the one those space coming?
Yes.
Jesus coming.
Yeah.
The mothership is coming.
So they all got in their little sweatsuits and their gym shoes.
They all laid in bed and drank poison.
I thought that was the six million dollar man episode.
That happened for real, too.
Yeah, it's in those pictures and you can see them there.
You see all their feet on their beds.
It was like 20 people.
Yes.
Yeah, there's a guy and he didn't kill himself.
I don't think he killed himself.
You see all these people that are dead.
That's crazy.
They're laying in their beds right there.
They all got dressed up.
And he didn't kill himself.
I know.
I don't think so.
Look, he's older.
That's awesome.
What a jackass.
He was probably watching to go down.
He was like, I don't think this is what I signed up for.
Heaven's Gates.
I guess it's still going.
Well, they keep putting the date about further and further.
Oh, he's going to show up on this date.
Oh, no, no, he can't.
He's going to show up on this date.
What do you mean, it's still going?
No, he's in jail or he's dead.
Well, he maybe did now, but he didn't die because he didn't die during these episodes.
The mass suicides.
They all wore Nike Decade.
Yeah, they all wore the same shoes.
Yeah, they all dressed up and they were ready to go.
How creepy.
I bet you too, as said to the comment.
Yeah, I bet they were really relaxed.
They all wore the same shoes.
Do you know how comfortable those shoes were?
Those shoes were really comfy back then.
Oh, God, that's so.
It's just creepy how they're all just laying there lined up.
And they're all wearing the same shoes.
Is that Air Jordan?
It's Decade.
Unbelievable.
Yeah, well, you know, well.
OK.
It's just you know, these are crazy white guys.
Crazy white guys.
I didn't think they were white.
I thought they were Asian.
No, that's not.
They were all white people.
It was on California.
Maybe not one of the other guy.
The one part of this one, Jim Jones.
Jim Jim Jones.
Why?
He looked like a Cuban.
That's kind of like a local Cuban.
I look at a little salt.
Hello.
Latino.
I've watched.
There's a movie out there that I watched of his.
It's just.
And you know, it's real.
So you're just kind of like, I know what's coming.
He's from Rancho Santa Fe, California.
Hold on.
What are you saying, Jeff?
What were you saying right before that?
Well, you're sitting there watching the movie.
And you know, it really happened.
In the miniseries, you're like, I know this is real and I know what's about to happen.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Right.
And it's kind of.
So brewing.
Yeah, it is.
It's brewing and stuff like that at all.
Like Titanic, you know, it's going to happen.
I didn't know what was going to happen in that movie.
You didn't know the ending of it?
I mean, I knew the ship was going to.
I knew a lot of people were going to die.
But I mean, there was about the actors.
You know, Jack was going to slowly.
His hand was going to drop down.
It was like, yeah, she's like, you told me you were going to give me the truth.
Don't let go.
It's so cold.
Troll me, nude.
But you know what?
That's what she said.
But you know what?
We can make fun of it all we want.
But it was an amazing movie.
It was good.
I saw it several times.
And it was a great love story.
Do you know what the weirdest part of that movie was?
Do you remember at the very end when she dropped the jewel into the water?
Yeah.
Do you remember right before she dropped the jewel?
Did you get a look at those fucking morbid feet?
No.
What?
She was climbing up on the rail.
First off, she's like 80 years old.
My point.
They are like arthritic?
Yeah.
She looked like Yoda climbing up a tree stalk.
By the way, you're going to look the same way at 80 years old.
I am going to be impeccable.
No you're not.
You've already got cankles.
Your feet already look like ass.
You know what?
That's not my fault.
It's a pigmentation problem.
Okay.
Well, I'm telling you it's going to be even worse when you're older.
And he's got cankles.
What is up with that?
It's like my bottom legs are turning black.
It's like I'm turning, it's not even African-American.
So what do I call it?
It's a tan.
No, it's because you wear these funky ass socks.
No, I'm wearing funky ass socks now because I enjoy the humps.
The compression is fantastic.
These socks made in China are like a thousand sweatshop workers giving my calves a hug.
Wow.
How sensitive you are.
It's probably true though.
Probably.
Well, maybe at least five.
And as long as they're holding hands.
Why were we talking about the Titanic?
Oh, because you know what's going to happen.
Yeah, you know what's going to happen.
But those feet.
I can't get past the feet of the whole movie.
I'm thinking.
I don't remember the feet at all.
Oh, dude, she climbs up and it's kind of like, is that a hoof?
That's not what I remember.
Who's the actress in that?
She was pretty.
Kate Winslet.
Yes, she was pretty.
And they and she's like on the couch being drawn by.
I said, drawing a nude.
That's what I remember.
I don't remember gnarly old feet at the end of the movie.
Dumbass.
I remember the breast.
Why do I remember?
Because that's all I remember.
He's got the foot fetish.
It's not a foot fetish.
She's cute, man.
She was hot movie.
Go down to the right where she's wearing the little black outfit.
You can see the foot.
That's not her foot, you dummy.
Down one more to the right right there.
Is that her?
No, it's not her feet.
It's an old actress.
I know, but I still want to see that.
No.
Oh, because you have a foot fetish.
I don't have a foot fetish.
You know what?
Type it in there.
What is it?
You do.
What is the the actor's name?
This cat was called the the character's name.
No idea.
Rose.
Who knows?
Rose Rose Rose Jack and Rose Rose.
And wasn't that Leonardo DiCaprio?
Wasn't that his one of his biggest outbreak movies?
Yeah.
If not the biggest outbreak movie.
He was in Gilbert Grape.
Right.
Yeah.
I tell you what, he's he's a very he's a good actor.
He's had some big movies.
I wouldn't say they're as big as like, you know, Tom Cruise type of thing.
But I mean, he's had a few good ones.
He's been in Wolf on Wall Street.
Yeah.
And Catch Me If You Can.
I don't remember that one.
I watched it.
That is a great movie.
Is that where he acts like he's a pilot and he's cash these checks?
And that's based on a real story on Frank Abigail.
He bought these these model airplanes at the airport and took the decals off those planes
and put them on paper and to make them look like real checks.
Yeah.
What a whippersnapper.
So here's what's crazy.
So it's a real it's a real story.
His name is Frank Abigail.
And they really did let him go from prison if he would help the FBI fraud department.
Yeah.
And he never went to prison.
Well, no, I think he did for a brief period.
And then they let him out because he was working for the FBI.
Right.
So check this.
I was reading an article.
I was reading an article that had to do with, you know, why you should never never use your
debit card for purchases like your bank card.
Right.
Never use your debit card.
Like don't go to Kroger and use it.
Use your debit card as a credit card because it automatically takes money out of your checking
account.
And then when the movie when the money is taken out of your checking account directly,
you don't have as much recourse to get that money back.
Correct.
As you would if you used your credit card, credit card, like not related to your bank
account.
And so I was sitting here reading this article and I was like, well, I know this, but you
know, but it gave some details that were really, really interesting.
It was written by Frank Abigail.
And I was like, are you shitting me?
That's the guy from Catching Me If You Can.
Now he's fine.
And he's writing.
Yeah, he's writing articles to help people like, you know, not get, you know, to be protected
from from fraud, people like him from people like him.
I don't I don't ever.
You know what?
That brings up a good point.
I told my dad when I read that article, I was like, I told my dad, you don't ever use
a card program.
Is it called Acorn?
Acorn.
Yeah, Acorn was a lending industry.
Well for this for Jeff's program, what it does is it rounds up.
Let's say your purchase is four dollars and seventy five cents.
It'll take twenty five cents of the purchase and put it towards a bank account.
It's actually by stock and mutual funds.
So it'll grow slowly.
And I did it just to say, I want to save money for a vacation.
And I have a hard time saying, right, here's 100 bucks a month.
So every charge I do, it puts a little bit in there, a little bit in there.
And when you're ready, just pull it out.
All right.
So this goes towards stocks.
This doesn't go towards like a bank account.
No.
So you're so they invested and you make.
Oh, this is a credit card.
No.
Every time I use my credit card, I tie it to it.
Well, that's what we're asking.
And that's where I'm getting that, because I think it's I agree.
I never use my debit card.
I always use my credit card.
And I was wondering, well, can you do that with the Acorn program?
I'm sure.
Because I'm starting to consider doing that.
You still do that?
I just it's just I'm not doing it to make money.
I'm doing it to force myself to save.
Yeah, you're not going to make money.
You're saving.
I'm saving money.
It's a forcing me to save money.
It's 10 cents here.
Oh, yeah, I've got on my phone.
Ten cents here.
Twenty cents there.
Every time you use it.
Right.
So you just forget about it.
Now I have almost three grand in there.
So every single time you use your credit card, you have it round up and take.
And you can do it round up by once.
You could do twice.
You could do four times.
So if you say so, if it's yours is a dollar fifty, you say I'm going to do it four times.
You would add two dollars to the thing instead of 50 cents.
You could dictate how much you give.
But every time you use your credit card, it's rounding up and taking that overage and putting
it into a mutual fund account.
Correct.
Interest gain.
Now it's it's I kind of I wasn't on board with it when he talked to me about it.
And I'm thinking, well, that's kind of a cool way.
I'd rather have more control over the way I do it.
But at the same time, I'm thinking I'm too I've got too much shit going on to have to
manage the money like that.
It'd be nice because I purchase shit all the time.
Meaning meaning you would just like it to do it by itself.
Yeah.
If I could if I could set it up or it was doing it by itself.
But you get to choose what funds it goes into.
Well, you could choose low risk, low risk, medium or like that.
But you're not going to make money at this.
You're not going to make a lot of money at this.
You're investing the money into mutual funds, which means you can make money.
You can.
Yeah.
But you're never your those are long term.
I'm sure if I had 50 grand in there, you know, the returns going to be higher.
I've got three grand in there.
So it's it's making I mean, I don't know.
I'd have to look, you know, 20 bucks a year or whatever.
Well, plus you have to pay taxes when you pull it out.
Correct.
And well, unless you leave it in there longer than a year.
Well, it's probably taking two years to get up to three grand.
Well, it's not a qualified account.
It's it's being taxed as you purchase.
No, no, it's taxed when you take it out.
It's tax deferred.
No, it's taxed.
So when I sell the shares, I say I want to withdraw two thousand dollars.
Takes a few days because then they go sell those shares.
Right.
And then they'll sell you send you the tax form that you have to declare that on your
taxes.
OK, interesting.
So so we're planning on the vacation.
But is that well, that doesn't make sense.
They should be paid for.
So you have to pay taxes on your money.
That you already have.
Correct.
When I sell it, maybe on the gains.
Yeah, it's only going to be on the gains.
So it could be on the gains.
So if I've put it so if it's worth three grand, I probably put in twenty nine hundred dollars.
So now I'm wondering how much the fees are.
Remember if it's a qualified account, meaning it's a 401k or something like a Roth IRA or
it's not a rock or something.
Right, right.
If it's a qualified account, it means you are not taxed when you put it in.
Right.
No, it's pre-taxed.
Yeah, it's pre-taxed.
But hold on, Paul, you're missing and this is missing.
You're not you're not putting it.
It's already it's your money.
Right.
There's no it's already been taxed.
That's right.
So it's not going to be taxed when you're putting your asset into their bank and your
asset can has the potential to accumulate interest.
And so you're only paying taxes on the interest that you accumulate minus fees.
It's already been taxed minus fees.
Right.
So that's the whole thing.
That's the fees.
Fees.
That's where they're going to get the money.
Oh, they're going to make their money and their fees are going to supersede the amount
of money that you're going to make.
So I don't know.
Yeah.
I mean, they're going to make it's all it's all.
That's what I was kind of driving at when I first when Jeff first brought this up, I
was like, fuck those guys.
They just want to make money.
But in retrospect.
So that shows how much I would have at the age of 92 if I just kept it up.
Oh, but you're only going to live to 91.
So it says at the rate I'm doing, it says I would invest 18000.
What's the return?
Sixty nine thousand eighty eight.
So I put it is eighty eight thousand.
I put in 18000 and I'd get eighty eight thousand back because it would make money over the
next 40 years.
Right.
All right.
We got a straight bourbon whiskey.
It's few.
It's forty six point five percent alcohol.
Ninety three poof.
And we give this one a thub.
It's OK.
Well, you know what?
It's not it's not an expensive bourbon.
So it doesn't it doesn't have a high expectation is what I'm going to say.
It was not bad.
I would say it's a sideways.
It's not it's not it's not a thumbs down.
It's not a thumbs up.
It's a thumb sideways.
That's perfect.
It's an an.
I'll tell you what.
Happy post Thanksgiving.
It's been a super week.
Came back to a busy, busy ass work.
Oh, shit.
And I got to dive in at first.
I'm glad we're doing the podcast.
I was a little upset that we missed out last week, but you know, family comes first.
Period.
Thank you, bro.
Thanks for having my back, bro.
That's not true.
But anyway.
OK.
All right.
So we're set for next week.
And guess what?
Next week is December.
Oh, wow, man.
It's it's Christmas.
It's December.
It's Christmas time.
Basically.
Oh, ho, ho.
Dudes like us.
I'm Sean.
I'm Paul.
I'm Jeff.
See you.
And we'll catch you.
I'll catch you.
I.
I'm wrapping.
No, you're not.
We'll see you guys.
I got a I've got a bourbon company next week.
What?
I got dead man.
What does that fucking just walking dead?
The walking dead.
I've got walking dead bourbon.
Well, we have to get two more bourbons this week.
All right.
Bye.
Indeed.