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Oh Halloween
So we're not gonna see well that's not like a toilet
Could have been toilet flushing
All right, we're gonna jump right into it because
Well because we're excited we're ready to roll
And because we can
Well, so I don't know what the name of it is. What is the name of the bourbon we're drinking?
Very old Barton 100 proof. That's 100 proof
And it's exceptionally expensive. I cannot believe we sprung from that
Yeah, actually I was pretty surprised when you told me the cost of it because well
I mean I haven't really I haven't taken a full swig of it yet
I've taken two small tastes and if for 100 proof right off the bat, it doesn't seem
Really hot on the tongue. No, it's not it doesn't burn
And I'm almost thinking you're lying. No, it tastes like it's like 80 90 proof. Well, the bottle says hunter proof
So they're lying could be
And it was a whopping uh, 15. Yeah that part blows me away
Oh, look at that
75% corn 15% ride 10% malted barley
15% rye and it doesn't taste like dough
No, we got to figure out what that dough taste is
Yeah, we need to figure out is it a certain type of corn or rye that they're using or barley? It could be a certain type
I don't know. I thought I thought it was a weeded beer that you got. I mean we did bourbon
No, it's not complaining about the doughy taste. Sometimes it is
Well, sometimes they have that doughy taste in it. So maybe it is it maybe it's a
Variation of the corn, but but this stuff barton this would taste. All right. I mean it does I like it a lot it it tastes
For 15 bucks. Is this available here in texas? Yeah, that's where I got it
Yeah, well, you know what? I'm this may be my party pleaser. I may just pick up a keg of this
Case yeah, well, you know, we're having our annual
halloween party at the uh
the house and
You know once again, it's a
I don't know if they make the tankards in them. They had the they do do they yeah
Well, they of the of the 100 or the 86 proof. Oh, yeah. Good point. I'm not sure well you could buy two
750s for freaking 30 bucks. Yeah, I just I want a pony keg
Just a full case
55 gallon barrel put a tap on it. There you go
Not 55, but you know, maybe a
I don't know
They make half kegs. I'm sure they do. Uh, well garrison brothers. You said they use small barrels, didn't you?
Yeah, they do. Yeah, so this this um
Very old barton and I did some research and it's allocated in some areas where it's it's hard to find and people hunt for it
Really? Yes
Hunt for this type the spooze for this specific one. Yes
So it's a it's a it's warming
Slightly sweet but muddled with unclear flavors with the palette. Um, I wonder why they would sell it so
Inexpensively well because it says with unclear flavors. That means we had no idea
What that taste is it could be butthole
That's really sweet that might be butthole
It does taste like you were going with that
Exactly. Oh, okay. Yeah, or it was oh, I know exactly what that is. I can't tell you
All right
So it says the several drops of water amp up the nose tickle briefly before adding a tinge of sweetness in the form of
plain simple syrup
Um water optional, yeah water optional, of course it is
It's very easy to drink it is and uh, you know, it doesn't have a lot of depth and stuff like that
But it's good. I like it. No, it doesn't you're right now that you mentioned it
It doesn't pop like a lot of the you know, I guess that's what the sacrifice is when it's 115
Points on that bad boy and it comes in really hot but you get a bouquet of uh of of nose
Flowers, you know all different types of cherries
And stuff that pop this one it's not popping very much. What kind of sign language we got going on there?
I was just trying to tell him to scroll up or scroll down and I I don't know which one it is
Anyway, uh, let's see overall. It says a decent all-around bourbon on the dry side, but good balance
Additional abb over its siblings has brought
Additional robustness and concentrated flavor and a much well-needed extra sweetness
Even if it's no longer the six-year. Oh man. Um, you're not supposed to inhale it. That's what that was all about
It says a hunter proof on there and you're absolutely certain. Mr. Producer. That says a hunter proof just in case jeff is blind
That's what we have very old barton hunter proof
Pretty hard to miss out. Yeah. Yeah, but down below it says uh the for all the background start with very old barton 86 proof
For all those he was
Start with the old start this one is a little confusing. There are actually two very old straight bourbons that are hunter proof one says bottle
In bond and the other one doesn't so it's pretty much
For what I read is they they they took the bottle in bond label off of it
I guess it doesn't meet the criteria anymore. I think it has to have an age statement
To be a bottle in bond and it doesn't have an age statement anymore. It was a very old barton 86 proof
statement to be a bottle in bond and it doesn't have an age statement anymore. It was six years. I believe
I think it says there it was six years
eight
I don't know
Anyway, I like it. No, it said six. I know we've seen it at total wine and you pick it up sometimes
And you look at it. You're like
Have we ever tried this?
And plus the wrapper kind of makes it feel uh, like you're buying a candy bar the way the print did
I don't know. This is me. It seems it seemed kind of um
I mean, especially didn't seem like a bourbon we'd buy well and and and the price
I mean we looked at the price and we're like, okay well because what do we we
I mean, we know that there are some very expensive ones versus some
You know relatively
You know affordable ones
That you know that does not mean quality. But when you have a price that low
It it i'm sure it scares off some customers could be
You know unless the people who know right like i'd get this again
I'd put up on the screen to be uh bottled in bond whiskey must be the product of a single distiller at a in a single season
Aged for a minimum of four years
in a federally bonded warehouse
And bottled at 50% apv. So you know what that means when they say it needs to be in a federally bonded warehouse
It amazes me how much money goes back to the state and how much control they have over that
I heard they they don't they pay like oh like 50%
taxes on that booze
Crazy, yeah, we did say that
But I don't know 50. I won't even say it was like 58% was
Of the of the all the sales go to the state
well some states
Really control the allocation. That's kind of bullshit like bad allocation. You mean distribution the distribution?
Yeah saying you get this you get this you get this that's that's that's controlled by the state
whereas in texas
If you can get it you get it, right?
If your buyers are good enough and your distributor is good enough you can get the stuff. Yeah. Yeah, there's there's a lot of uh
Distributors are kind of
Uh got their hands tied up too. It's kind of like
Uh, some of these big bigger beer producers, for example, like eisenbush and
uh cours and like, you know, if you're a local distillery
Local if you make your own beer, it's very difficult to be picked up by one of those guys
You know, it's it's like, you know, for example, uh
They have uh, what's that?
francisco
In um mckinney. That's right. Coney. Yeah, frank. Coney. I knew it
It's frank. Coney like for them. They weren't able to get on on the ticket to get distributed from um, penny keith
I mean they they can now but you know, but but there was a time where they couldn't
And it's like what the hell why not?
Why can't we why can't we order that sell it at our beer bar? Right, you know, and it turns out that
We ended up being able to sell it simply because since they made it in mckinney and our business was in mckinney
We were able to sell a mckinney beer and they couldn't say shit about it and we could deal business directly with them
Also, benny keith would have if if let's say you that your store was in plano
No, then you cannot so benny keith would have said we're gonna stop delivering till you know
Yeah, they just shut you out and benny keith does more than just booze. I mean they they serve plates silverware
Uh flour all the stuff you need for restaurants to be successful, you know, right?
It's kind of bullshit. And so yeah, I see what you're saying about when they allocate and authorize and they
You know they could stunt some business
Did more than a chance making they can make a business go out totally go out of business. Well, didn't um,
I don't know if someone here said it or one of the people at
total wine about yingling the reason that it took
The time that it did was because of the distributors. Yeah, they were bent, you know, probably
Bounding together to keep them out to keep them out right and then giving kickbacks to the distributors. Yeah
Yeah, like I said, it's like you know hyzer push and coors right all those folks
They know they don't hold a candle to us or the hey man. Well put it this way
When's the last time you bought miller? I'm not granted. We have some Miller here, but we've been buying the yingling
Regular lager in the light now. Yep. That's my go-to now, you know
You know, we're not well, you can't get your miller. I'm sure if that was still around you'd be buying that that's your point
um, but you know, it's
I used to get the miller light and
It's been ever since this launched and when was that august september?
I haven't bought never purchased any it's been all yingling. Yeah
Crazy. I like it grew up with it. So
Can you what did you do with that?
What did you do with that uh, the the very old barton link you still have it up
Okay, because it was describing some sort of warehouse collapse
I was curious to see what it was talking about there. Yes. Well then they talked about
The warehouse collapse in june
9,000 bourbon barrels. Oh my god
A nightmare warehouse collapses. Look at that treasure. So that's going to when was this
Talk about a money shot. Oh, that's 2018. So
That's about four years, right?
Yeah, maybe that's why it's getting hard to find
Because they had 9 000 barrels tank
So so
It says that 9 000 barrels were damaged and spilled into a creek which killed over 800 fish
No, they just got drunk
Is that their fault for drinking that much they were pickled they had a choice
Yeah, no shit 9 000. So they I wonder if it was all I don't
They also they also make the 1792 that we like right?
So it may not have all been this it could have been a mixture of uh, oh look at that
Oh through that aerial picture right there
And you know, you should do that claim
That'd be an easy one
Oh my god, I say can I have this barrel?
Oh, I see what you're saying. Yeah. Oh, yeah, that would have definitely happened. I'm gonna rent a truck
with a trailer
Also old brands also, this is sasarac brand
Yeah, interesting. So they were showing a very wide aerial shot of this huge
Uh wooden framed barn warehouse
and uh
I don't know. It said 9 000 barrels perished. So
By the size of what we saw that fell. It's probably probably holds about 25 000
Barrels in there you think it looks like half of it fell. Yeah
Yeah, probably about 18 to 20 000
in it
Oh, I imagine that the the fire crews that showed up to help contain the spill and stuff we're
Yeah, getting their thermoses out filling up that are just like heartbroken, right? I mean look at that
Well, did it catch fire? No, but they were called in to
Help with the recovery effort. Well, I bet you could smell that for miles. Yes. I bet everyone's like
oh, yeah, well, there's a uh in cincinnati
there's a uh
Uh, there's a distillery
in cincinnati
Okay, canadian mist or something like that. It's I can't remember which one it was
And every time sometimes when you drive by when they were distilling it and brewing it and everything. Yeah. Oh, it smelled good
It smelled really good. I don't know if they were bottling it or what but it was certain times when you drive by on the highway
and uh, yeah, you could smell it it was uh, yeah, it was uh
It smelled really really good. I can't remember which which uh distillery it was but um
It was good smelled good and right next to it down the street. There was a
another factory that made
extracts
Okay, so you drive by that you'd smell the vanilla. Oh, yeah and stuff like that
Yeah, and then in the town I lived in we had a glue factory and that smelled amazing
It always reminded me of a what they make like horses. Yes grind up horses. Yes
um
They would take horse
carcasses
And truckloads of every now and then you'd see a big truck. They have a tarp over it
but every now and then you'd see like a something hanging out of it and
They slaughtered them for this. Well, no, I don't know. I don't know where they raised and slaughtered
I don't know. I bet you they were they I don't know where but I mean the meat was
Already pulled off and everything because you don't make the glue out of the meat, right?
But uh when they were cooking it had a an aroma to it
And it kind of at the time I was always like it reminds me of macaroni and cheese
kind of a pungent
cheese
Smell at least that's what it reminded me of people always disagree with me, but it just it smelled. Yeah bet
And I hear paper mills are awful. They smell awful. I went to I went to
school up in Ohio and
In athens, Ohio and we'd go to chilla coffee
and
Mead I think it was mead paper had a paper factory there and it stunk
So bad, I don't know how anyone could live there. It was so bad. I guess you get used to it
Yeah, you get used to it. But it was yeah, I guess so. Oh, it's so bad
I mean we're able to have a podcast here. Well, that's your ass. No
Well, we'll never get no have you ever smelled a paper? That's not what I heard
I heard it was your ass. Have you ever smelled a paper factory? No. Oh, it's so bad
Yeah, and it stinks. I heard and I was like, could you imagine working in there? Oh
If it's this bad
10 miles away from it
As shown a rips ass
Did you really know?
What what do you think it smells like inside, you know, yeah, no kidding tart cheese
What's called pungent cheese pungent cheese. That was the melted horse. Yeah
So the only other example I can think of is people who work at
tire plants
Or even not even tire plants like discount tire. Well, how about well, I can't get the smell
What is that? I can't get the smell the rubber. Well, I worked again during college
I had a job every every summer every Christmas. I had a job and one summer my summer job has always changed and one summer
I worked for a temp agency and then my jobs changed, you know, sometimes I was I worked a job for a week
And it was just simple labor stuff, right? Right go and I'd cut the lawn at a warehouse or something like that
but
They they offered me a position at Cooper tire
And it was up by us and it was going to be like a six-week thing would have gotten me through the rest of the summer
right, so for six weeks and
They had over five million tires in there. Wow
and
I got through
the first day and I was like
I can't handle this I was sick right and so I went up and told the guy I was like, I can't handle the smell
I was like, it's making me sick. I was like I'll finish the week out
But I can't because that's what he asked. He goes. Can you at least finish the weekend?
I was like, I'll finish the week out. I worked from I think six to three six a.m. To three p.m
And my sole job was to work with this lady
She worked the forklift these forklifts were just flying around and they had pallets
Just probably so you so my job was basically restack every damn tire in the in the in the warehouse
Okay, because they were consolidating
So they wanted to put more in there so they had these tires
They'd have four stacks probably six seven or eight tires high depending on the size
Okay, so my job was this lady would pull all these pallets down and they're probably
Six pallets high right tremendously high
and
She was like, oh my god
and
She pulled them down line them up. My job was to
Pull all of the tires apart and then throw another stack in the middle. So there were five
Right stacks of tires on this one pallet, right instead of four, right?
So she pulled down the the five right so or whatever it was and four at a time and then I'd
Carry tires every night throw in the middle and restack them
So I was gonna do that for six weeks that explains your shoulder problems could be man
You could have a lot of problems. I mean there there's a lot of toxic fumes come out of tires. It was terrible
It was terrible. I don't know how how you could work there mercury sickness. Yeah
But I mean, there's a whole there's a whole laundry list. Yeah, so the lady I worked with had a permanent
Like industrial tens unit on her back
What one of those electroshock things because she was injured a a um,
Forklift ran into her. Oh
Shattered her hip and she's back doing her thing, but she's in constant pain
So she has this constant thing shocking her her side
basically
And that first day I was there
when I when I was going out with her she's like
She's like if you're if you were ever just walking around and you hear wood cracking
Run because they have avalanches there
Where the pallets collapse because there's so much weight on them
So the pallets an entire walls horrible thing to say of a horrible thing to say and it happened when I was there
a freaking avalanche an entire wall thousands of tires
Came tumbling down in the one week you worked there. It happened. Yes, you could have been killed. Oh, yeah
I wasn't wow, there are different sections. So I wasn't that section but they called everyone over there
So so then everybody had to work to clean it all up. Yeah, we were like guess who stacked this one the new guy. Yeah
Damn jackass
We hadn't worked that section yet
And sure it was a mess. I mean you've seen those videos where they actually hit on those big tall and they all come crashing down
That's what it was like. It was it was a mountain of tires. Yeah, those videos usually have some culprit
like
Jeff
Jeff that wasn't me
It wasn't me because that's what she said. She goes if you if you hear wood cracking you hear it
So they had these these huge shelf units made out of wood. No, they're just pallets
So it's wood palettes and then they would how does that how that seems like a violation of something? I don't know
They were just regular wood pallet. Maybe they were reinforced. I don't know
But they were just wood pallets. They look like, you know, you'd buy at the store or get at the store
and like I said
Wow, however much those tires weigh right what each tire weighs what 40 pounds or still 30 pounds? Yeah, that's what they're stacked on
Just like that and uh, but my job was to see how those are reinforced now
Yeah, osha standards. Yeah, they were not back then
This was 30 years ago. Yeah, look up look up. Uh, damn tire avalanche
I bet you you'd find something
You probably would so it sounds like it was fairly common there. It sounds like a fairly common
and uh
um
It but it was a mess. I i'd get home and I and I stunk
My i'd get home I was living with my dad. He's like god you stink. Yeah, and I would go straight to bed
Oh, yeah, you got like a headache. I had a headache and I was stacking tires for
You know freaking nine hours. Oh, man. I imagine you were just toxic
Yeah, felt like shit i'd shower and I'd just go to bed at like four o'clock in the afternoon. Wow, man
You should love it's got the epa according to the epa. It's got benzene high levels of benzene mercury
styrene butadone
I don't know what that is, but it sounds like a it sounds bad. Yeah
polysolic aromatic hydrocarbons
Arsenic, okay, that sounds back to you amongst several other chemicals heavy metals and carcinogens have been found in the tires and
The shit that you would hail. Yeah to this day. I have a problem
Like when we're at cosco in the tire center, I have a hard time going in there because of the smell
You were there for one week one week. Well, it's because god gives you
Tolerances right and he rations them out
I guess just cashed all of his tire tolerances. I guess
One can't stand that and survived an avalanche. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and I remember
The lady that I was working with had to go see her doctor. So I had like three hours
They just they just told me to go sweep the floor or something like that
So I'll sweep the floor and there's mazes, right?
So they had these little hallways of tires just stacked to the ceiling 50 feet up
And I found a spat and I was just sitting back there and I found a spot and I just sat down also damn tires
near the end of the week, I was like screw it, you know, so I sat down and
Got a quick nap, but I was sitting back there going if this falls
They'll never find me
They'll never find you. Yeah, they're like didn't we have somebody start the other day cuz I was like there was a wall and then like
Probably 30 feet of tire behind me
Just stacks of them and stinking. Oh and it smelled so bad and you couldn't escape it, right?
Because you're in this huge warehouse full of over 5 million tires
So I do not recommend that that position to anyone. So there you go. So you're where well
They probably have all kinds of masks on they made today. They did back then
Yeah, there was nothing. I mean everyone was just flying around
Well that goes to show in any environment in like the old day like coal miners never right never had anything and people working
Just you're not what do you call them?
The gas plants, what do you call those?
Gas plant natural gas plant
William where they do the not distilling but they do the refinery refineries and stuff like that. Oh awful
Yeah, I guarantee they weren't wearing adequate protection or any of that kind of stuff
Yeah, I imagine I mentioned a lot of those people that worked there for years
I bet they have some serious health problems. Sure. Just just cancer or breathing issues
Yeah, whatever, you know, I was there for a week and I like I said every day I was done
I felt like crap. Yeah, just nauseous just sick and I was just like I'm glad I
Looked back. I was like it was an experience, you know, I tell my kids about it. They're just like whatever dad whatever, you know
You mean you're you're temporary the fact that they would put you like anywhere type of thing or just just a tire place, right?
Yeah
Then they'd laugh at me. I was like whatever you do that. How hard is that? I don't know. Let's see you do it. I
Had I mean lazy assholes. I worked at a movie theater, which was like the best
Right smell like popcorn
No, no, I didn't smell like anything. I mean I I didn't pick up any smells from the theater
But it got sure sure and I got to I mean it was it was always he had that
Teenager funk, you know, he probably didn't shower it sits all over
Polyester he's more polyester. Nothing breathe back been before where they have butt wipes
Yeah, nothing. It's like a bioderm dome down there. So it turns out I had a massive blind spot
I think I had no idea. That's what I know until right now. That's what I know the girls talk to you like
Yeah, that's where I met my wife. There's a they called you the biodome God
wrong with you guys
It was the best job ever. I got to watch free movies all the time her olfactory nerves were were down
Anyway, I did get sick of it one day one get drunk and then he played a game of hide the meat stick, you know
One Christmas I because I would work there. I'm ignoring all the height hide the meat stick
So one year in high school and then every you know Christmas and summer with his friend during college
Right, correct. And then what I got really tired of working there for some reason when I was getting older
It's like maybe the high school kids or something. Anyway, so I decided to work somewhere else
Just one Christmas and I worked at Toys R Us and they put me it was wintertime and they put me in this
like
makeshift lean to
Built on the side of the building where people would come up and hand you tickets and you had to give them the video games
Right, right and all the customers were I mean they were horrible
I was freezing my ass off because we had no heaters in there. My tech mobile. Yes, they were
Incredibly rude because first off I had to look for them. I didn't know where they were right? So here I am going. Okay, okay
and then I as soon as I finished that shift I
Drove over to the movie theater where I knew everybody and they and the manager and I said can I have my job back?
Cuz I'm not going back to Toys R Us
One day one and done really couldn't do it because and it was mainly because of the rude customers
I couldn't I couldn't believe it. I worked every Christmas. I think I started my
Senior year in high school over Christmas break
I worked at there used to be a toy store called KB toys KB toys
Yeah, KB toys was inside the mall. There's inside the Tri County Mall in Cincinnati. Yep
I remember that one and
I
Got and again
I worked there every Christmas because I got to do the manager and every Christmas I'd come back
I did it for five years, right?
Five years and I and I experienced that same thing. So I did everything
I'd get there because I was one of the older ones. I was in college at the time, right?
So I could get there early
During the week and stuff like that to help unload the trucks and stuff like that
And one of my jobs was to unload the truck find the video games, right open them and
Stick them behind the counter
right because
People knew when the trucks showed up
And they would line up outside before the gates would open
And then it was just a free-for-all, right? So I'd be behind and I'd work to registers. I did everything
I did the stock the inventory the registers, uh, hold on yards
and uh
The when you're behind the register and these people are fighting essentially, right?
I want tech mobile was the big one. I remember. I mean, it's like a we call that black friday
Yeah, well that was that was like well, yeah black friday was big which right?
It wasn't as big back then as it is now, but it was no but I just mean the tension of people jockeying for position
And just being ridiculous. Yeah, it was and it was like that a lot
The closer you got and the closer you got you'd get people coming up like to do for christmas. Yeah, you got this
No, I don't right. You should have checked three months ago
Right, so
Yeah, it's I experienced that
The crazed parent looking for the video game. That's when nintendo first came out super nes
those old ones, right so
We had it we sold because if you didn't have the tech mobile, they'd be like, well, I gotta get something
Like what do you recommend? Well spider-man i'm going to kb. They didn't have like the mainstream toys. It seemed like they had
Well, they did when I was there. Yeah, garbage pail kids. They had everything
It just seemed like a
They had a different strain of toys like if you went to toys or us it seemed like they had different variety of maybe there was just
More. Well, yeah toys or us is a lot bigger than yeah, maybe that's all
Yeah, kb was just a little little shop in the mall
And you know, they had all the name brand stuff star wars he man
Barbies, why did toys rs go out of business? They they expanded way too much
There's actually a video out there
the rise and fall of of
Toys or us. Yeah, and it shows you how many stores and it goes
Because it's back down because it's not it's not like there's any competitors
Amazon, you know, other than amazon in walmart and some of the bigger ones. Yeah. Yeah, I guess so, but they had a great
Advertisement and i don't want to grow up by my toys
Jeffrey the giraffe and their and their selection was
Oh, yeah, incredible. Yeah, yeah, we'd go in there when the boys were small
Yeah, just kind of
He knows all the words Jeff
It was a karaoke hit. I don't want to grow up because maybe if I know it was not a karaoke
He mixed it
Kids more games more toys. Oh boy. I want to be a toys or us kid. Yeah. Wow
That was the whole thing man. Yeah, it was the whole thing
Thank you, Sean Jeffrey the giraffe
Of course, I spelled Jeffrey incorrectly well, it depends on what part of the country you're from
No, that's the gay gay. That's a geoffrey
Well, they had to put a g in there for giraffe I know but still it's jaw free the jar
That's a german way of spelling it
I'm sorry. You said it's a german way of spelling. I just
He was just because you're from germany is he
My family I have lots of i'm fourth generation germany. You're germanic. You're germanic
As far as I know. Yeah, you're part of the horde
Yeah
the huns
No
Not the huns
Just the horde. Oh my gosh. So
There is halloween coming up. Yes. Did you guys get to carve pumpkins?
No, no, my kids are gone
Well, we carve pumpkins. I like carving pumpkins, which means you don't have to have kids to do it, right?
But no, we didn't do it this year. We've got pumpkins. We tear one bought like
Eight or nine pumpkins one for everybody and
Or it is this weekend. That's right. So we carved them about we carved them last week
We the kids really did good. I'm telling you. I know the kids are older. They're 19
and and 18 19 20 and up
But they it was cool to have all those pumpkins on the you know on our steps coming up to the house
Yeah, I think there was like seven or eight different pumpkins. Are they still there?
No, excuse me. They all rot. They all got rotten. I mean they got rock quick because yeah, it's crazy because like the
It was like 50 60 degrees all the time
And well, I mean for a stretch and then uh, hell it got wild
I mean for a stretch and then uh, hell it got warm
Yeah, I got up at the upper eighties. My wife put them in these plastic bags and uh
Put them in the front of the yard and I was like, why did you do that?
Well, you should just freaking threw them on the bushes and just let them gel
Uh, fertilize. I mean those things were brought quick. That's gross. You get lots of bugs
Yeah, but a flying gnats and
Flies and it would stink. It disappears. Good smell. No, it goes quick
I used to work at it's worse when you put them in a plastic bag and let them sit in the front for a week
Because that's what I had a curry to the back of the backyard and it started to like the air pocket started getting
Balloon, but it's just nasty because you know, there was a there was a about a quart of liquid
Undefined liquid in the second orange and black and green liquid. Mr. Producer. I I requested
Him before he takes off for a second half of his day
He has to go to bed till like four in the morning five in the morning, but he um,
I said hey before after the podcast when you come home, please
take the bags and move them to the back and
Just to give you heads up. Mr. Producer. I moved two of the three bags for you
Ah
So now you only have to move one. Are they heavy?
Um, they're just awkward because you don't want to they're too heavy for the bags in which they are in
So when you pick them up
You might want to great gingerly pick it up and don't
Don't just yeah, if you hear wood cracking don't stress it
Yes, don't stress the plastic because it'll break on you for sure. Yeah, some folks are really good at carpet pumpkins
Yeah, we weren't ever that unbelievably creative. There's a lot of crazy pictures of man
Well now they have these kits. Yeah, I don't like that. Yeah, just give me a big old butcher knife
You know the old old-fashioned jack-o-lantern. I was in construction. I always used my drywall saw
It's a keyhole saw basically. Yeah
It works extremely well, I mean you can cut anything out circles and you just you know, wham and it's done instantly. Yeah
And oh man, it's like the perfect thing that they started like you said those little kits and you got the saws
Yeah, they work but
You know, they don't have a lot of integrity as far as trying to go up and down a little itty bitty ones
And you get freaking forearm burn you sit there and pound away on their fucking uh pumpkin with that little saw
Yeah
Oh my god, it's the worst
Yeah
Yeah, we never we never got that creative. No, it's kind of like sex. Fuck that
I just go on for a few thrusts and get the shit cut, you know
Hmm. What?
Hmm a few thrusts
Is really one two three. Thank you. Yeah, so few is
Does it get to the center of a two-terra point?
One two three
Wow
That's really great. That's a good commercial you see it pop up every now and then on tv today
It does. Yeah, you see it. Where the hell did that come from? Yeah, it's like the old old school with the owl
I remember
Yeah, yeah speaking of halloween
The
I know growing up I did the you know, the stupid little mask with the rubber band thing
We did that when I was smaller like a roy rogers or lone ranger cow. No, like snoopy or something like that
Oh, yeah, like a mask. Yeah, like the plastic mask with a little hole for your eyes
Yeah, and I don't know. Do they still have those today? I don't they do
Do kids still wear them? They still wear them
They well, I mean they sell them in the store. I mean, but it wasn't like it used to be
I mean now it's like I need the best thing. I need to look like a
Dildo or something in order to go out
A dildo. Yeah things have you have to like things have changed tremendously. It's more realistic
The masks are out of this this rubber and it's got to look real before like when we were growing up
It's just like hey, man
Yeah, just pick a fricking spider-man mask and a cheesy ass little leotard comes with a package. It's pre-packaged
It's like what size are you and boom? Yeah. Yeah. Now now it's these full things. What are you gonna be?
What are you gonna be? I mean, I don't know Snoopy. I think I was Snoopy one year
Nowadays are also expensive too. It's like it's hard. It's hard for parents with little kids to like
You know before you scrub a little bit that was that an AIDS spore?
Well, it's a coronavirus. It's still the same thing. It's a virus
So I remember when I got to probably middle school near the end probably fifth sixth seventh eighth grade
I don't think I did anything past eighth grade
Um, I was always a bum
A bum just a bum
So I would get some of my dad's old clothing
right
So hold on. Hold on. Are you saying this was
When you used to dress up you used to be a bum, correct?
But after that you didn't do that. I didn't go trick-or-treating anymore probably after the eighth grade, right?
Yeah, that just became natural. Yeah, I was just a bum anyway, right?
So I probably stopped about when I was how old are you in eighth grade 12, right 13?
No, I think that's right. So that's when I stopped and but every year I'd get I'd get that'd be the bum
And I'd get one of my dad's hats because you know back in the 70s
He still had hats when people used to wear hats, right?
old pants
that he wasn't gonna wear anymore that you'd rip holes in and
And then my mom would get a piece of charcoal
And make my face all dirty
That was my costume.
That was it.
That was cheap.
For like four years in a row.
Yeah, we didn't spend any money on it.
Right.
That's perfect.
Still, the best I've ever seen is the Jack Daniels and the Marble Boy.
You have to see it.
You'll find it.
Marble.
Marlboro.
Look up costume, Jack Daniels, Marlboro.
Marlboro.
Yeah, there's some really creative costumes out there.
People really do.
I saw one where this guy built, looked like a zombie that was attacking him.
And he was, it was part of his body.
It is.
Oh, the baby.
It's the greatest costume of all time that I've ever seen.
That's funny.
Yeah, he's a little pack of cigarettes and he's a bottle of Jack Daniels.
Look at the Trojan.
It's so great.
Look at the condom pack.
Oh, I don't look good.
Oh, come on.
That's awful.
It says lubricated and ribbed.
That's awful.
Look at the muscle girl.
Yeah, there's some really good, a lot of creative people out there, I tell you.
Yeah.
Kid, he's got a little pot plant.
I'd say one of the coolest things I like, the, is where they step inside this costume
and it looks like there's someone carrying them.
You know?
Yes.
You know?
And I think the, I don't know where it originated.
I remember seeing it on the Benny Hill show, you know, where they would have, it would
look like this old guy's carrying them, but there's not, you know?
Yeah.
Freaking hilarious.
Yeah, like something like that.
They got an alien.
So it looks like the alien picking you up and running away with you.
Yes.
Yeah, that's funny.
Yeah, well I know, yeah, so that, and like I said, I probably stopped doing that 12,
13 year old year.
I don't remember when we stopped.
I just don't remember.
I mean, our kids, they did it till, I think they did it their senior year.
Then you, well then you stop wearing costumes and you just walk around with a pillowcase.
Yeah.
And then you score as much candy as you can.
Yeah, yeah, I think both my boys stopped around eighth grade as well.
Right.
And there was a period where the kids became a certain age where we just had a tremendous
amount of candy all the time.
Yes.
You know, and we basically procured it all during Halloween.
Right.
Because I would remember I'd carry around.
It would last all year.
Yeah, I'd carry it.
I'd have a wagon with me because it only takes a couple times.
We have four kids.
I mean, you do that one year and you're kind of like, yeah, I'm not carrying all this shit
again.
Right.
Because you got, you know, you got to carry them.
One's crying, two's crying, bags of candy, Tara's gone.
I'm like, no, I got a wagon.
I got a wagon, solved all those problems and there was room for a cooler.
Yeah, that's the best part.
Yeah.
And we haven't done that in years.
Trick or treat.
Well, we're doing it Sunday and you'll be hunting elk and Jeff and I will be will be
in the front yard, tossing down some booze and listening to some music.
I got a Halloween list.
I've been curating.
Yeah.
Throughout.
You guys.
It was the one from last year, but I was taking a shit several times this week on my Amazon
music account and I was just adding songs that was all.
Yeah, that's good.
That's good.
I've got the one that Asian squid game thing from Netflix.
I'm about halfway through that.
I'm just on the front of losing interest in it where, you know, she's like, don't wait,
don't wait, don't wait.
And then she stops talking.
And then if you move to the gun, shoot you.
Oh, yeah.
I haven't seen it.
Don't spoil it for me.
It's basically red like green light.
You know, that's just just one little part of it.
It's red like green light.
And if you move, you fucking get shot.
Oh, OK.
Well, I guess I don't need to watch it now.
Yeah.
I was pretty much taking me a while to get through it because I struggle with the episode.
It's just like.
You know, it's interesting.
The games are interesting, but everything in between is just like, yeah, it's painful.
Yeah.
There's too much.
I mean, everybody's talking about it.
That's for sure.
Well, they're talking about how stupid it is.
Oh, are they?
Oh, OK.
What's the shock and value of the game part of it?
But there's there's no substance whatsoever.
None.
OK.
Well, there you have it.
Yeah.
So I know I know and where I grew up in Cincinnati the night before Halloween, we called it Damaged
Night.
That is so good.
Yeah.
So that's where a bunch of juvenile delinquents went out and juvenile delinquencies.
These guys that were the long the long in game for them was there to be criminals.
So that's where they started out there.
Yes.
Or they made that decision that night.
Do they really go around vandalizing?
No.
Well, we didn't.
Right.
I mean, we part.
Oh, it's called Damaged Night.
But we didn't damage anything.
We didn't break anything.
We didn't break windows.
They just they added things like toilet paper, perhaps.
Maybe eggs.
So we yeah.
We well, we didn't egg a lot.
I'm sorry.
But I'm sorry.
Did you egg?
Yes or no?
No.
But you said we didn't egg a lot.
A lot.
So well, that was oh, so it's conditional.
It's conditional.
I see.
We didn't again.
We didn't really egg anybody.
Hold on.
I'm saying we didn't really fake egg them.
We may have done it once or twice.
We may have thrown egg in their general direction.
Right.
We didn't really egg them.
That wasn't that wasn't our our claim to fame was egging.
You're not talking to your parents back when you were 10 years old.
Hashtag.
Well, I don't really I didn't really egg them a lot.
Oh, no, I didn't.
Yeah, just just to just the tip.
What the hell?
Did you egg them or no?
So the big thing is was at least for us was what we had some called tick tacking.
And tick tacking, tick tacking.
That sounds odd.
So what it is is it's deer corn.
You know, the hard corn feed.
Well, we go we had a local feed store in there and we go down there.
I remember one year we bought, I think, a 25 pound bag of this stuff, me and a couple
buddies.
And again, we're probably 11.
So we had to have the parents, one of our parents drive us down there.
And they're like, what do you want to do this for?
We come out with a big old bag of corn and like, really?
They knew what was going on.
And no, no, no, the parents did.
So the parents were in on it.
Not really.
They condoned it.
They're not.
I guess they did.
How the hell would I would have never known if you were.
Hey, let's go get to the store to get some feed.
All right.
You're an idiot.
Why would I hold on?
What you exactly not do it a lot.
Use it for.
No, we did a lot.
Oh, on damage night was the only night we did it.
Right.
So what do you use it for?
What do you do?
We plant corn in their yard.
Are you poor corn everywhere?
No, you don't.
So what you do is.
So what you do is it's really hard and big corn.
OK, you carry around, you know, the brown paper bags, lunch bags.
So you fill your thing up and you carry it and you grab handfuls at night and you throw
it against their doors and their windows.
And it makes a fricking racket.
And it's loud as shit.
And you run because they come out and yell at you.
It's basically we got tic tac.
And it's it's fricking loud.
You're sitting there.
All of a sudden, this corn is racking up against you.
So it's not really damage.
It's just an annoyance is what it is.
Right.
Cracked all these windows that know nothing broke.
Well, you don't know that.
I don't know.
This corn would not.
You were running away.
And no, the corn did not break any window.
Well, you said it was hard as shit.
It is.
But it's corn.
Well, someone picked up one of those corn to chewed on it.
It's like throwing sand against the window.
It's not going to do it.
It's going to break the window.
And those are like called pebbles.
Those are rocks.
Yes.
Now they're a little tiny rocks.
They will not break.
No break windows.
No sand.
Well, so anyway, under one year, this was the last.
I've never seen a corn the size of a sand granule.
No, they're big.
They're big corn.
Big corn.
That's what I'm saying.
It's not a sand.
No, but it's not going to break a window either.
If you shot it out of a potato gun, it would.
Well, we didn't have to take against the corn gun.
We had a handful of them.
Well, you could shoot sand granules out of a fly killing gun.
So kill a fly.
OK, I heard I heard it doesn't really kill the flies.
What is this?
Stun them?
Yeah, well, it just so if you start them and go to like pump another five shots into them,
I wouldn't kill them.
Wow.
I heard it kills.
Violent double tap.
I heard they don't really work.
That's what I heard.
Interesting.
Anyway, this was the last year.
This is the last year we did this.
I was probably 11.
Maybe 11, 12.
And that when the police caught up with you?
No, no.
But there is a new is on a hell's night.
There's a new neighbor.
What time was it?
Damage damage, damage night.
What do they call it?
The list.
The hundred game.
Oh, purge.
No, you're on a national list.
Watch list.
So we just hit the houses in our neighborhood, which is stupid.
America's most wanted, you know, so we just hit.
We are in a cul de sac and we teenagers gone wild.
We'd hit all the houses and we hit this one.
There were there were a new couple that moved into the neighborhoods were like, oh, we got
to get them right now.
So how young were they?
Those are probably in their 20s, late, late 20s.
Don't rush us.
And they can't wait to have kids because kids are just great.
What are the big house?
No, it's a little house.
Was there a pool?
No.
So she didn't walk around renovating.
I had never seen her before.
I've only seen him walking into the house.
Oh, so you've been watching him.
Correct.
I love it.
Are you wanting to live?
Are you choosing to just watch him?
Why would you not?
Are you living one of your perv stories through his story?
Are you projecting your pervenance?
I heard that's what you like to do.
No, I don't think so.
I think you're projecting.
So anyway, I don't know.
I'm sensing it.
Yeah.
So anyway, so hold on.
What did you do when you were 10?
Actually, you know what?
Let's save that for later.
I have no idea.
I was, you know, when I was 10, I wasn't allowed out like that.
I know.
We'd be out.
You know, we have to.
I wonder why.
Yeah.
Mom, did you see that?
Because my kid, my parents were responsible.
Did you see that hot young mom move in over there?
Do they have a pool, mom?
Can I go watch him?
That was you.
Whoa.
Can I have a drone?
And then your mom was like, you can't leave the house.
She's like, here, here's the money for the drone.
So anyway.
Drone.
So me and my friend at the time, I think his name was Dave, and.
And you were 10.
10.
Probably 10 or 11.
Yeah, harassing, harassing adults.
You know what's crazy?
I'm going to hit pause real quick.
Ten years old.
Yes.
All right.
I'm just now hearing shit that our kids did at 10.
I know they hit all they hit all of it from us in our neighborhood.
This is the scariest thing that I've heard them do in our neighborhood.
They have a in a lot of neighbors that they had storm drains.
Yes.
Our kids were in those storm drains at the age of 10.
Yeah, so was I.
Not one of these.
I know, but I was in probably smaller storm drains.
They're exciting.
They're mysterious and deadly.
I know, but they're it's not like modern.
I would have done the same thing, but it's it's different when when I think of it as
a dad, I'm like, what the fuck were my kids doing in a storm drain?
And then when I heard that it's like they could they've got my inflatable raft or blue
boat, two man boat.
And they they went they went far.
They went all the way to the other side of Rollator.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
And you know what I would have been thinking is, where are these kids?
Dad, that's what I would have asked.
Where did they get that raft?
Don't these kids have a dad?
Is this dad drunk somewhere?
What's this dad doing?
They didn't go to school.
What was it like?
Actually, where were they?
It was a weekend.
Producer, this is you.
It was a weekend.
Hello?
Oh, don't you?
It wasn't him.
It was his older brother.
No, it was Steven and Preston.
Yes.
No bullshit.
Yes, it was.
Austin was there too.
I heard the story.
No, you need to turn that microphone on.
No.
OK, I can tell you I wasn't cool enough to go with them.
Yeah, but you went down.
He didn't make the cut.
You went down.
No, I didn't.
You've never been in there.
No, never.
No.
Not with Emily?
No, I was too scared.
Has Emily gone?
I know it's under there.
Trolls.
I don't know, evil things like rats or something.
I don't know.
It's other 10 year olds with big bags of corn.
I was the youngest there.
You think I would survive?
You guys have fun.
I'll wait at the entrance looking at ducks next to the pond.
Oh, that's where they entered.
Yes.
I was one of the people that called into the city screaming at them to put bars on that
thing.
They have bars on it now, don't they?
They damn do because I was just like, I just heard that my kids went down there and I threw
a freaking fit.
And they're like, where were you when your kids were watching?
I'm motherfucking working.
So anyway, yeah, our kids have done some stupid stuff.
So anyway, we did this.
We threw it against.
So we ran across the street and where I grew up, the driveways are in the front and the
driveways went down because it was two stories and the garage was underground.
So the driveway went down.
So we booked it across the street and we're looking over the thing.
All of a sudden, this guy, the door burst open.
He comes speeding out of the house, be lying right for us, yelling at us.
Oh, no.
So we're 10, 11 years old.
We're like, holy shit.
So we take off running down the middle of the street and he's yelling at us all the
way down.
And no, continue, continue.
We're doing an emergency, yeah, Burton, Burbin handoff.
And we started getting close to my house and my friend, we were running down the street
together.
My friend peels off, runs down my.
But it peels off.
They're running away from the irate, the young, irate, young guy, young husband who was extremely
fit that I found out later.
And Tony, he's creeping on him.
And Olympic sprinter.
So so we are running down.
He was a high school sprinter.
So he was running down the street chasing us.
My friend peeled off, went down my thing and then slid underneath the bush in my backyard.
I run past my house.
The guy picked me to follow.
Yeah.
And I was like, holy shit, what am I going to do?
The fat kid.
Yeah.
So let's chase the pudgy kid.
So I'm running.
I'm just like, where am I?
Where am I going to go?
So I make a left.
I go around my house because I was like, there's a tree in my side yard that dips way down.
Maybe he'll run into it.
I know it's there.
I'll just duck under it.
Maybe he'll run into it and then I'll just get away.
He didn't hit it.
So he ducked under it, but I think it slowed him down a little bit.
Oh, my God.
Cause I kept running.
And in my all the houses that are on that street, we had a bunch of big woods right
behind us.
We didn't have any houses.
It was a bunch of woods, trees, creeks, the whole nine yard.
Yeah.
And so I go through the backyards with no fences, no alleys or anything.
This is nighttime.
It's probably like nine o'clock at night.
Oh, my God.
And you can imagine flight mode when you get the extra.
Oh, the adrenaline.
I ran the guy.
And anyway, I'm running.
I ran across three backyards.
I ran in front of my friend because he was underneath a bush.
He did a slide underneath the bush and just stayed there.
I knew he was there.
Because when I finally came out, he came out and we were like, holy shit.
So anyway, I go screaming across this yard.
And then I'm just like, where am I going to go?
Right.
So I just take a 90 degree turn and I dive into the woods.
And hide just to hide.
I dove head first into the woods.
I like this.
And as soon as you hit the hit the back of the yard, there was a drop off.
So it dropped off probably 10 feet, gotten paled by.
And you like dove off the edge.
I dove off of it.
Head first.
And I didn't get very far because I got tangled up into some trees.
And I was laying there.
You looked like the family guy character that falls down the stairs.
I was all in black.
Armed backwards.
Right.
And I was all in black.
And I was laying there.
You dressed like Steven Seagal.
I was lying.
Yes, I was.
I was laying on my back and I still had the bag in my hand.
And I was laying there.
And the guy stopped.
He didn't follow me in the woods.
And he was probably six feet away from me.
A few feet up.
And he was leaning on a tree and he was yelling, if I ever catch you, you fucking son of a
bitch, I'm going to break your neck off.
The whole nine yards.
Could you see you?
No, he didn't know where I was at.
OK.
I was right below him, about six feet away.
And you were trying to hold your breath.
I was.
I was like, oh, my God.
And he yelled for about five minutes.
I mean, just screaming into the woods.
And I was like, he's going to look down.
He's going to see me.
And what am I going to do?
And then what?
I don't know.
I would have been like, where do you let him talk to you?
I don't know what he would have done.
So he eventually gave up and went back at butt sex with you.
And I'll teach you.
So I laid there probably for 20 minutes.
Maybe he's just hiding up there waiting for me to come out.
Right.
So I laid there for about 20 minutes at least.
And in that meantime, the neighbor that was kind of way back, I start seeing flashlights.
Yeah.
What the hell's going on out there?
So there was flashlights going to the woods.
I was like, now the neighbors are out searching the woods going, what's this racket going
on?
Right.
So finally, I get up enough nerve.
And I was like, all right, I got to get out of here.
So I go up.
And I go into the woods a little bit more and come out in a different area.
Right.
And at that time, my friend saw me.
And he comes out.
He's like, of course, we were just all freaking out.
So this was a nice time when he saw you.
Yeah.
He knew who I was.
So what time is this?
Probably about 8, 30, or 9 o'clock.
Oh, this is early.
Yeah.
But it's dark out.
Yeah.
This time, it's dark out.
Crazy.
And so he's like, he gets like, I was under that bush.
And I saw both of you run by.
He goes, it was so fast.
I don't think I've ever.
And I ran this guy.
Again, he probably would have caught me if I would have kept going straight.
Right.
But, you know, I was 10 or 11 years old out running this guy and he had a brand new baby.
Several months later, we run into him.
We were out in the street playing.
And he finally comes out.
We start talking.
He didn't know who I was or what we were.
Right.
He didn't know you were the evil kid that broke up the baby.
He broke his window.
And we were talking to him.
He was a really, really cool guy.
He was like his late 20s.
And we finally admitted, hey, remember back in October, I think it was the following summer.
Yeah.
And he's like, was that you?
And we were like, yeah.
And he was like, I was ready to break your neck.
We had a brand new baby and they had just fallen asleep.
Oh.
And then you did that and woke him up.
So that's why he was so pissed.
Oh, yeah.
So he was probably about to probably, you know, his kid just went to bed.
Yeah.
I mean, he's kind of like, all right.
Keep in mind, he's sleeping.
All right, baby.
Yes.
It's my time.
Oh, yeah.
Well, it could have been that.
And it could have been just sleep deprived, man.
You remember how bad that was.
Oh, I know.
Man, you go three weeks without sleeping and you don't make anybody crazy.
Right.
And he even commented, he goes, I was surprised because he was like, yeah, I ran sprints in
high school.
I was the fastest guy in school.
And he goes, he goes, I probably would have caught you.
But you know, and I told her, oh, yeah, she were like, you know, it's like E.T.
You guys were like jumping over shit.
Ten years old.
I would have caught your ass.
The adrenaline, not the fast.
Well, not when you're sipping between homes and I was trying to zigging and zagging and
jelly, but it was like I said, I don't have first.
I was surprised I didn't get impaled in some because I ended up on my back somehow.
It's insane.
No idea how hurt you could have gotten.
They get hurt at all.
They get a scratch.
Oh, that's amazing.
Yeah.
That's cool.
Anyway, that was that was the last time we did it, actually.
So smart.
We were like, all right, those clothes were done.
Kind of a thing.
There we go.
Good.
Well, good for that guy for stopping you guys from many more years of criminal mischief.
Right.
So how long was it from when you did that until you had a conversation where he knew
it was it was several months because it was warmer out one because we were out the street
playing football or something like that.
He came out and started talking with us and stuff like that.
And, you know, once we talked to him for a while, we kind of admitted what what happened.
And he was he wasn't pissed off anymore, obviously.
But of course, you know, but, you know, we let you know of.
Well, yeah, yeah.
Well, yeah.
I mean, he was new.
We never actually saw him again.
He probably, you know, he probably worked for a temp service that would delegate jobs.
And he was like, yeah, I'm going to track Jeff, Jeff, Jeff, Jeff.
I remember this guy eight years later.
Nine years later.
Yeah.
Remember me?
Put you in the middle.
You don't remember me, but I remember you, you little prick.
You son of a bitch.
My kids still never went to sleep.
He's terrorized.
Yeah.
And now you're working in a tire factory.
And now I can't eat corn.
So yeah, so that was again, that's that's what we did.
We tick tacked and what we you know, soaping windows.
Was another thing.
A tick tack windows.
It was a what is that called?
What is it?
Damage night.
Tick tack and soapy windows.
You got to tell me what the hell is a soapy window?
So you squirt five gallon Home Depot bucket.
No, that's where you get a bar soap.
You just kind of scribble on the windows of the cars.
Oh, come on.
That's not as bad as egging, because egging is a ruins your paint.
It ruins your paint.
Yeah.
It 100 percent ruins your paint.
Yeah.
So again, did we do that once or twice?
Probably.
But it wasn't a main.
We didn't do it very tick tacking was it?
Well, soapy windows sounds kind of odd.
I mean, I've soapy windows.
That's soapy.
It's so being so we just have a bar of and you just write on the windows.
Irish spring spring.
You just yeah, you can write boobs or something like that on there.
But you know, it's usually just quickly lines and you just move on.
It's more of a pain in the ass.
I don't think I've ever done that.
Now I've taken shit and put on one does what I talk about.
But human human with an egg.
What?
What would I get human feces from out of your your asshole?
You think I'm going to be trolling through the toilet to get that?
No, no.
You squat in front of their house and you pick it up with your hand and swing it on
the windows.
Shit at their house.
It was his one time.
That's what fucking monkeys where I had.
He was giving me grief garbage garbage bag and I was piping hot large German Shepherd poop.
And everybody knows how large those things are.
They're like monuments.
I've got several in my backyard.
You know, Mr. Mr. Rodenstein, Mr. Rodenstein, you're a you're you're a jerk for not giving
us our ball back.
And for that, I was the guy that wiped that German Shepherd's poop on your windshield.
I'm the guy.
Wow.
You own it.
You owned up to it.
That was 1983.
You think he's still alive?
Did he shoot you?
No, no, it was in the middle of the night.
It's a salt gun.
I see.
Oh, that was you want to talk.
You're running through farmland, getting shot at by farmers.
Come on, man.
That wasn't my fault.
Really?
Yeah.
All right.
So, you know, I remember I never did any of that extension of that living in Germany.
Germany has got to be some of the funnest Halloweening I've ever done because there
were so many.
Can you imagine an apartment complex?
That's that word Dracula is over there.
Very close to that anyway.
Transylvania.
Yes, it is.
He was in the subdivision next to yours.
Well, we're in Texas.
It would be about the same as being in like Florida.
So imagine how Halloween is here.
So we're in a community.
You're in a community.
You basically walk down a few select streets, right?
But you know how an apartment complex is.
Well, you got the whole community, right?
Even living in a very uniform apartment complexes in neighborhoods are very organic.
No, I'm just saying perhaps what I'm with are very just like like right now, they're
very organic, very organic, the way the layout of the apartment complexes.
Military housing is very uniform.
They've got, you know, one house building after another building, no creativity.
Like the projects is kind of a good example of it.
So you have these repeat houses and you've got you've got a bunch of them.
So you in each building is like five stories tall.
So in three stairwells.
So there's like what is that?
I don't know.
Do the math on that whole bunch.
A bunch.
So, you know, you got either side left right.
So that's that's 1020.
You got 30 families in a building and there's hundreds of buildings.
OK, maybe hundreds, but a bunch of buildings.
OK.
So you get a bunch because you have all 10 of those families contributing to each stairwells
candy fund and you go by and you would you would literally go hit like three or four
buildings and you would clean up.
You would you wouldn't.
There's not it was probably the most exciting.
Yeah, but it was like a bunch of licorice and Swedish fish, though, probably.
Right.
Yeah, man.
Some of the no.
Yes, there was that.
But they also had like it was all the magic, the German chocolates they have.
I mean, there were so many crazy stuff that the German offered.
And it was it's got to be some of my best Halloween experiences as far as the quality.
Don't you look for some of that food, some of those candies down at Cubies?
Oh, I love it.
I have some in my drawer right now.
Cubies.
Cubies is a it used to be a restaurant and shop.
But after Covid, I think they shut down the restaurant, which is unfortunate.
And in fact, we need to go hit a German.
I know we do it Wednesday, Thursday or Friday.
What's that?
It Cubies on the way to Kennedy's.
Well, dipshit won't be here.
So Kennedy's.
Oh, you're talking about Kennedy's.
He doesn't know the sausage.
Oh, as soon as I leave town, that's when you guys start this like six months ago.
Oh, OK.
Six months ago.
I see how that works.
That's cool.
So continue with your Halloween thing in Germany was was was extremely exciting.
I'm telling you, because there were so many families and there were so many kids out.
Right.
I mean, it wasn't lucky.
I wasn't that old.
I wasn't old enough to appreciate stuff like that.
So you're like six.
When you say lucky.
Yeah, we're referring to.
Yeah.
What?
Candy.
OK, so candy.
You know, what's crazy is that back then it was cool to get the candy cigarettes.
And you know what the cigarettes are?
Oh, yeah, we got them.
Yeah.
That was a bubble gum with a little powder.
I like the chocolate ones.
Those were just like sugar cigarettes.
They're just like hard sugar that you would eat.
What the hell?
I mean, give your kids candy cigarettes.
They call candy sticks now.
Well, you.
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah.
I mean, I had the chocolate cigarettes and they were so good.
I never had the chocolate ones, but they looked they have one end that was brown for the filter.
Mm hmm.
Oh, we we felt so cool.
Oh, we felt so cool.
Smoking and then you rubbed off the filter and they were like, that tastes really good.
And you know, shoving the whole thing around.
I didn't last long.
Yeah.
They basically like joints now.
Nice.
Yeah, King's King's cigarettes.
I don't remember the brand.
That must have been it.
I don't know.
I tell you, I mean, I wonder how what smoking is.
I mean, what is the ratio of how many people in 10 smoke?
Is it one?
How many?
What is the ratio of smokers nowadays?
Well, I mean, now I think vaping is, you know, encroaching on that.
Let's not do that.
Let's just do the.
I know that vaping is still an epidemic.
I don't know if it's quite as bad, but it's still bad for you.
Well, it's horrible for you.
And it's an epidemic among the teenage teenagers.
So this is 14 of every 100 adults in 2019.
So 14 percent.
Yeah.
Smoke cigarettes.
Yeah.
So but but current current current smoking has declined from 20.9 percent.
Probably 21 of every adult in 2005 to 14 percent in 2019.
Yeah.
So it is on the decline.
Yeah.
But that doesn't seem like a very big drop in 20.
What is it?
Fifteen years?
Well, it went from.
It went from 20 point.
It went from 20 percent.
It's just six points.
Six points.
I would think it'd be more than that.
I was it back in the like the 50s or the 60s.
It was 97 percent.
I think everyone smoked back.
I think it was a mandate.
It was cool.
It was mandate.
It's kind of like a vaccine mandate.
It was a cigarette mandate.
Joe Biden was in the Senate.
But it wasn't.
Yes, he was back in the Senate.
It wasn't cancer.
He is the one that made the cigarette mandate.
Yeah.
He was old enough.
It wasn't cancerous back then.
The general surgeon said it was OK.
Yeah.
No, they said in fact, pregnant mothers are welcome to smoke.
They said it was required.
The only place with a mask on the only place it was remotely bad, even like people were
like, I don't know, was California.
Now everything is a cancer in California.
Everything is.
Yeah.
Needles.
Well, my mom smoked my whole life until she fell and got cancer, broke her hip.
But then I had her cigarettes on her and she could get up and get up.
So she kind of cold turkey did.
But she smoked her entire life.
God damn.
So I grew up with it.
That's some serious shit.
That really sucks.
Is that what it was?
You were in the car.
Is that what it took?
That's what I did to her.
Yeah.
And that worked.
Yeah.
As far as I know.
What about your dad?
He was like, he would come home, be like, oh, and she'd be like, they didn't live together
at the time.
That freaking Jeff, he took my cigarettes and I count by phone and I can't get up and
that son of a bitch.
I don't think he would always ask trace.
So is your mom from New York?
She was.
OK.
She was a hillbilly from northern Kentucky.
But I think so.
Were you the kid that was in the backseat with the windows up smoke just blowing out
of the car?
Yeah.
Oh my God.
Yeah.
From cigarettes to tires.
My wife was that kid too.
Yeah.
I can't stand the smell of smoke now.
All smoking with her.
And here's this little girl in the backseat.
I mean, can you imagine that?
But you didn't know any better back then.
Well, no.
I didn't.
I grew up with it.
Come on.
How can you not know better?
Well, maybe, maybe not.
But you know what the thing is, is that there was a campaign for you to do it.
I know it.
Yeah.
And you know, frankly, it's a little bit different nowadays, I want to say, because they started
adding nicotine, this was a spray.
You know, you ever seen the tobacco come across the conveyor belt and they were actually spraying
nicotine on top of these?
Oh, yeah.
That was the thing.
To make it more addictive.
Absolutely.
To make it more addictive.
And I don't know when that started, but I mean, yeah, there was spraying nicotine on
tobacco.
Well, the thing is, if smoking cigarettes totally go away, that's a huge loss of revenue
for the government.
Yeah.
It's a huge tax.
But you know what?
Well, just like a vaccine.
It's a huge tax.
Maybe that's why they need to compensate.
It's a poor man.
They say it's a poor man's tax.
So the folks who don't pay any taxes, they they're big smokers.
Right.
So they say that's that's how they're getting some of the taxes.
Producer, he needed a word that differently.
Oh, I see what you're saying.
Yes, I get that.
So and I think a lot of the.
That's the way they get their money from the poor people.
Well, look, the smoking is.
Well, I don't know if it's intended, but that's what's happening.
It's a bad thing all the way around.
And I think the tobacco tobacco plants, you know, it takes a lot of
a lot of real estate to grow those tobacco plants.
Right.
You know, it's just it's ridiculous.
They need to do something other than tobacco, something more conducive to.
I mean, tobacco is easy because it's a fucking weed.
Right.
You know, it just grows.
And frankly, there's just I've never.
I've never had an appreciation for cigarettes.
There are some people out there that have.
Oh, I know.
It's like the way I've tried to figure out.
I can't.
I'm so I did a one and done just to.
Yeah, I tried it just to cross that off my list.
And I knew I was not going to be a taste like shit.
Tastes like shit.
Made me feel like crap.
And I had a cigar.
I had a cigar.
And I couldn't even I couldn't even finish it.
It was like so nasty to me.
Then you wake up the next morning.
Oh, God, I had like rot mouth.
Yeah.
Oh, gross.
CTS.
Now, vaping, I have not tried nor will I.
But that is a out of control situation.
Yeah.
Then you also have the hookah lounges.
Ah, hookah.
Anything like that where you get side stream smoke.
I mean, clubbing, being in bars.
I mean, it's just it's called second hand.
Would you call it side stream?
Yeah, side stream.
Yeah.
Second hand smoke.
So what exactly?
What is the difference between hookah and vape?
Is there a difference?
Hookah is real smoke.
It's real smoke.
I believe, isn't it?
I don't.
It doesn't sound right.
Isn't it?
Isn't it like a it's like a big community?
I don't see a bong.
It's a hookah.
But they don't they don't have something in there that's been lit on fire.
I believe so.
I've never been.
So this is these are all assumptions.
All right.
Well, here we go.
What's that hash?
Well, vape is tobacco.
Here we go.
We're smoking hookah involves heating tobacco.
Yeah.
Heating.
OK, well, it's hate.
There's a dose that's lived that's vaporized.
It's vaporized and held the vape and inhaling it through a hookah pipe.
Vaping includes using a vaping device to heat e liquid or vape juice on a heating coil and
inhaling the vapor that is produced.
So it's a specific tobacco that they're using.
So hold on.
That didn't answer the question.
So it's not smoke like hookah is not smoke.
Then no, no hookah is smoke.
OK, smoke.
Yeah, you're burning something and you're smoking the off of that.
You're burning.
You're inhaling the smoke.
The vaping is taking an electrical charge and heating something up until it produces
a vapor.
And then you're inhaling that vapor from the electrical charge burning the liquid.
Does that make sense?
Yes.
Yes, it does.
So here it says it's a water pipe.
Oh, you had it.
What is it called?
I call it side stream smoke.
What did you call it?
Secondhand smoke.
I mean, I've heard that, but I don't ever call it secondhand smoke.
I always call it side stream.
So, secondhand smoke is what they said is more damaging than the actual smoking the
cigarette because it's unfiltered smoke.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, I'm just saying side stream smoke is the same thing as secondhand smoke.
OK.
All right.
So hookah come in many shapes, sizes, styles, but the basic parts and functionality is the
same across all of them.
When smoking a hookah, the smoke itself is generated at the top of your hookah in a hookah
bowl, passes down through the hookah stem in two parts.
Really?
Do we need to break this down?
I'm just trying to...
You're lighting shit and you're fucking inhaling it.
So it's literally smoke.
It's not vapor.
No, there's no vapor involved.
That's what I'm trying to tell you.
So it's awful for you.
You might as well take a campfire and just like inhale it.
It says it's a wet tobacco soaked in glycerin, molasses or honey and flavoring.
That's disgusting.
So they soak it in some kind of flavoring juices.
Yeah, we've got one right down the street.
A hookah bar.
And it's packed.
Yeah, it is.
It's a massive hit among the Indian community.
Sure it is.
It seems like it'd be a cesspool of communicable diseases.
I don't know.
Don't the hookah lounges, don't they have like the big hookah in the middle and you
sit around and you all kind of smoke it together, right?
Yeah, there's like six different things coming off of it.
Like tentacles.
Tentacles.
And then everybody like, you know, sucks on the smoke together.
And then is it like a big orgy after that or is it just, they just hang it out?
I don't know if it makes them high.
I don't think it does that, does it?
So it's not a sex shop.
Tobacco makes people high.
Well, when you first do it.
Oh, right.
I mean, it does.
I mean, nicotine affects you.
I don't think it's, it's not like a pot high.
Right.
Not as, I mean.
They get giggly.
My mom was never high.
No.
Yeah, they got buzzy.
They got buzzy.
You can get a buzz from nicotine, right?
You can get a buzz from smoking.
I think a buzz is what they have.
You can definitely get a buzz from cigars.
It's definitely a different buzz from smoking THC, correct?
Of course.
You still get buzzed.
You get lightheaded.
And you're not high.
You're budged.
And you get jones for the cigarettes too.
What?
You start jonesing for a cigarette too.
You, if you don't have one.
You get the.
You get, you start craving it.
I'm glad I don't have to deal with that shit.
Yeah, I'll tell you what, when I was, when we were talking about growing, being 15 and
at that time, I remember going to junior high and I, I would, went through a phase where
I was smoking cigarettes, had the Levi's jacket on, had the marble cigarettes in the front.
Did you have the cigarette rolled up in your arm sleeve?
That was in the fifties.
I did the Levi's jacket where it was in the front pocket, like a normal person.
Would you pack their cigarettes?
Oh yeah.
I never understood what the fuck that was all about either.
But I used to do it.
And everybody was like, Oh my God.
Oh, his technique is so good.
All the girls was like, Oh, Sean, he smokes a cigarette.
He's so dreamy.
Oh, he's doing a cigarette thing again.
Marlboro.
So yeah, I had some Marlboro.
So yeah, I had some Marlboro cigarettes.
Did you do Marlboro Reds or Camels?
It was Marlboro.
Or Menstal.
You know, I did do Camel non-filters for a small while, a small period of time.
And later on, like in my, my like early twenties, but when I was like 15, junior high, it was,
I remember, I remember skipping school and going right at the corner and smoking a cigarette.
I wouldn't skip the whole class, I would be late for my class because I'd run down smoking
a cigarette with a couple of friends.
And I remember there was, there's always a police officer forward slash social worker
that was on every school, you know?
And I remember he, well, that's because you have a white, it was Mexican.
So they had one of ours.
What are you saying?
Exactly what I said.
That's white privilege.
You can get away with shit there.
So they, I remember coming back onto the school property and he shows up and he was like,
hey, what are you guys doing?
And I was like, he's also Mexican.
Oh, this was an old man.
This was a Paso.
So we show up and he's just like, what are you guys doing?
And I was just like, oh, we're just taking a walk and we're just running a little late.
We're trying to get to the store back and he grabs my hand and smells it.
Oh, did he go?
So he's got like a young boy thing going on.
I was trying to think of the, you take your pants right in front of him.
This like smells like urine.
He's like, oh, that's good.
Come here little boy.
You're nasty.
You did two of the stink this time, did you?
Why he takes it too far.
You talking about you talking about tick tacking.
What the hell are you talking about?
I know I'm talking about corn.
So he's corn against a fucking window.
It smells the cigarette.
And what are you doing?
The stink.
What did you say?
Cigarettes.
It was like, I can smell the cigarettes.
You know, right now I can, I can expel you from this or we can work on a deal.
Give me the ticket too far.
No, really?
You can put you talking about you're going to take it a deal.
Yeah.
He's like, oh man, are you ready over there?
I guess not.
Anyway, so what was that?
I don't know.
Are you marking?
I don't know.
Never mind.
I think he's Mark.
No, I'm not marking anything.
He's brain.
Oh, mark his territory.
Anyway, go ahead.
So anyways, I was just like a cop caught you and sniffed your fingers.
No, he was a school cop.
He did.
He smacked my finger.
Well, I don't know.
There's no point after that, but it was just, it was just odd.
It was because he grabbed my hand.
He smelled my fingers.
I'm talking about the smelling of cigarettes and stuff.
And I remember that was kind of the thing.
And who would think of that?
Who would think of that?
You know, when your kid comes home and you're like, have you been smoking?
I kind of smell, but if they kind of dress up or they wash it off, change clothes, whatever.
But it's really, it stinks on the hands.
Well, I mean, it goes into your skin.
You can't get rid of it.
Yeah.
Cigarette smokes.
Again, I grew up with it, so I didn't notice it, but I noticed it today when someone's
smoking it.
I don't know if I'm extra sensitive to it or obvious.
It's it's something I have a hard time.
I tell you what, I can smell marijuana a mile away.
No, that's a skunk.
Oh, oh, it's a skunk.
Yes.
Really?
Oh, I can.
That's interesting.
Yeah, that is a really long distance.
OK, four feet.
I can smell it very strongly within four feet.
Straight out of the park.
I mean, that is I mean, that's a Marvel hero.
I'm not sure, but Paul could tell you where he's at.
Hold on a second, Paul.
Right.
They were not a drug.
That was true.
They would not need drug dogs.
They just had me over there three miles.
So I remember we we went to some basketball tournament and we were in a hotel, a really
shady hotel.
But I do know my history of hotel.
Yeah, we are picking hotels.
Do we have hotel lineup?
No, we do not.
I told you guys I'm not doing it.
So you guys have to pick one.
What do you mean?
Just because you say you're not going to do it, you're not going to do it.
That's exactly what I know.
I'm not going to be responsible for chalk lines in your room.
All right.
Well, here's the thing.
Why not?
You already are.
So OK, you're still going to get back up.
First off, where he sells what he bailed?
I thought you said he sells.
Now I've got two tickets that I'm stuck with.
That's another thing I'm never doing again.
Buying all the tickets ahead of time by myself.
Stop, stop, stop.
Let's do this.
How many tickets do we currently have?
We have eight.
How many people are going?
I haven't even gotten a confirmation, but I think I think six.
OK, well, you know what?
There's at least three going.
We'll compensate you.
We'll make it right.
You already paid.
Well, that's not my point.
My point is, is that we'll compensate you.
Did I pay for two or one?
Just one.
Well, who else could go?
See, Barry, Jerry.
What about any of your kids?
Kerry.
Dylan.
Would he be interested?
Why don't you call Linda?
I don't know.
Call Linda.
Have her fly out for this concert.
She probably would love to.
Why not?
Yeah.
Aren't we supposed to be coming up to our halftime thing anyways?
No, we should be.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, and I was thinking, actually, I was thinking of inviting Joe.
There you go.
Joe would go.
Yeah, do that.
OK, so anyways, when is this thing?
It's November 11th.
November 12th, Friday.
It's a Friday.
It is Friday.
OK.
So.
I don't think we're going to get a hotel inside the casino.
No, those are extremely expensive.
But we get one in Durant.
Did Andrea say she has some contacts?
No.
She does not.
No.
And I check with my contacts.
Where did she say she did?
She did, but it got nowhere.
Oh, OK.
And yours got nowhere.
They do not discount.
Choctaw is very stingy.
They do not discount.
All right.
So we're going to stay, guys, and we need to secure four rooms.
That's typically what would happen.
But I know some people don't want to stay.
They're just going to go home that night, which I think is a horrible idea.
Well, whatever.
So why don't we take care of us?
So we're going to go to Choctaw and we're going to go see a concert.
And who are we going to go see?
Sticks.
We're going to go see Sticks.
Who else is going?
Collective Soul.
There you go.
Are you sure?
I was on the Sticks website.
It said Sticks with Collective Soul.
Because yeah, but that's still ambiguous.
Is it Collective Soul 6?
That still doesn't sound right.
But what's strange is we saw Thorner in Choctaw and there was no opening show.
They played for two and a half hours, three hours.
That doesn't mean Sticks has to do that.
Well, that's crap.
I'm already voicing my displeasure.
You don't want to see Collective Soul?
I don't even know who they are, really.
They have like two or three songs.
So they're going to say play two or three songs.
They're kind of a Stone Temple Pilots kind of thing.
Extended version.
No, they're not.
Yeah.
It's that same time period, but.
Isn't it Stone Temple Jam?
It's alternative rock.
That's Pearl Pilots.
Right.
They all sounded the same back then.
Just one big spooch stain.
Right.
All right.
Bad Stream Smoke, Secondhand Smoke, you guys have we'll be back in just a few moments.
We're going to we're going to prepare the next sample of bourbon Halloween weekend coming
up.
Football fantasy style.
We'll talk about that second half.
Yeah.
Or but hair.
And I got a big time elk hunt coming up.
How about that?
Suck on it.
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